Rachel Homan: Olympian, Mom...and Author?

[Music] Hi again everybody it's jungle gym Jerome and the one in only Kevin Martin coming out you with a very special episode of Inside Curling. Apparently there's a big announcement that's going to happen. You wouldn't tell me Kevin last time. I was hurt. He has no idea why am I not on the inside of this thing in your Kevin said because telegram telegraph tell Jim he'll tell everyone you know so I don't you didn't do it. We are joined by the one and only the most successful Curler on the earth right now is Rachel Holman. Hey, Rage how are you? Good. How are you? Yeah, I'm good. Thanks. Yeah, I'm good. Welcome to the show. Not your first time. You're like a no you're a friend regular regular friend of inside curling I'm in your home I'm in your hometown. I'm in Ottawa you grew up here. I did yeah. Yeah, where where did you where did you grow up? Orlean it's the French part. The French part do you speak you don't speak French? I do yeah. Oh good for you. Oh wow Olympian and and bilingual. Oh yes I barely get by in French but yeah I can understand it. When you don't use it though it's tough to keep well you're out west there's not a big French population out out out here out in Ottawa. I'm in Beaumont so there is actually. Oh that's true. Yeah my kids went in Frankfurt school so I've had to use French a lot more and starting to come back. Oh good for you. Did you get any trouble when you were going to high school? When you trouble. Hey were you a leader were you a follower were you dragging people down like let's skip class and all that stuff for what? I was like really lucky that my grade you know everyone was kind of into sports and academics and it was a smaller grade like maybe in the 90s for graduating class. Oh good yeah. And yeah we had lots of fun I'm sure we took it too far lots and stayed on the straightener also so yeah I think I just got lucky with my grade and the people around me. Yeah I was gone a lot I think I missed like 46 days in my last year at high school just competing and things like that so yeah everyone was super supportive. What's there maybe that's the surprise we're gonna leave it till the end of the show maybe that's what it is. Was that high school curling did they have a high school lead? I think they did when I was in grade 12 but they wouldn't let me play. Too good. I don't know they laughed at me when I even suggested just coming out one time so I just left it at that. Oh did you okay. Everyone knows by now of course congratulations on winning the trials. I don't think we've had you on since then and you're on your way to Italy. How do you put all that in words when you qualified and look up with your teammates and going okay off to the Olympics. Why don't you tell us how it's been going since day one there when you when you did qualify. Yeah I mean it starts you know four years ago when they teamed together with that being the goal but four years long time to put together and then even at the end of the day you know it comes down to thankfully it was the best of three. The final but you know at the end of the day it came down to one week and one tournament that you know you had to all show up and things had to fall into place and you know they did for us and we're thankful that you know all that hard work and dedication you know paid off and now we're ready to go. You know we're going to be on the Olympics together it's you know I think just feeling so many different emotions for different players on the team. When you were in the flag on your back now as they say there must be a sense of pride or is it stressful. You know we've we've been to the last two worlds with Canada in our back you know the first time maybe not as big of a target second time definitely a bigger target and you know this this time even more so you know teams have been. It's gotten us for quite a while now we're no longer a new team so it's yeah lots of pressure you know we're we're embracing it we can't wait to go we're working as hard as we can we just had a training cap here in Edmonton. And they just one home today and just you know getting the few things last minute things needed to iron out and we all you know know the work need to put in this next week before we leave. Before Kevin comes on who's who's coming with your in your family I hear it's tough to get tickets and accommodations and all that how are you working that out. Yeah I mean it was tough but I think you know it was we thought it would be impossible and then. I think everyone almost is coming you know I talked to my mom which I don't think I don't it sounds pretty tough and I was like why you just look. And I think 24 hours later she's like book our tickets were coming okay cool so yeah they've been really helpful. We've had kind of like a liaison that lives over there that's helped us out you know fine apartments or things come up and no more things have come up as it's gotten closer it's. You know what it they said it would be crazy expensive because it's them you know we're in the mountain village and there's not a lot of availability. I mean I think it's probably on par with every other Olympics you know they jack up the prices whether there's available not so. Yeah I think it's a huge moment and I think everybody wants to be there and you know when they more they looked into it and I think a bunch of people are coming so it's exciting. Huge moment yeah from one Olympian to another Kevin. Hey thanks Rachel I can't even imagine how busy you are right now but I really appreciate your time. I was tuned into the other game the other night so that's the the things you get to do after qualifying because that was awesome the the piece you did with Jean Prince of Pay. Thank you. I guess I like to hear your thoughts so yeah yeah you're really well you've been in front of the camera lots but but still really well spoken. I guess do you love that kind of stuff how do you feel about that stuff when all of a sudden you win to do something real cool but then there's the other stuff that happens. Yeah it was a lot of fun the contact that we've had and got to know a little bit invited us to the game with their company and you know kind of to celebrate the last two worlds and celebrate the success. Together and you know they're so gracious Gen X is the company and we had a great time with them and then it kind of snowballed into you know that morning we got a texting you know Jean wants to do an opening with you guys and we're like oh boy sure yeah it's been brought like a real rock to Roger Center in a broom and somehow got it through the metal detectors no problem and yeah it was a really cute skit that they put together you know linking curling terms with how the others are doing right now it was pretty funny you know the other three girls might not know Edmonton players as as well as I do at this point so it was really funny to yeah to do that with him that was great yeah it was great okay I on the last show Rachel you didn't well you probably have tuned into our last show of course but anyway sure I just fake it right I mentioned we were going we were never missing episode right daily my how often does run well twice this week twice next and then 22 straight days at the Olympics covering you guys so I'll actually be yeah we're we did that last Olympics to actually it went really really well but anyway you curl a lot practice a lot but somehow you managed to fit in time to do something else and I thought this would be a great time to be able to show what else you've got going in the publishing world if you're here we go here we go yeah this is this the big announcement well this is something very cool I thought well what's going on Rachel and what made you do it yeah we announced like I guess I announced it and in Rock League a couple weeks ago at the last event that I was making a children's book so it's it's kind of getting to the end in final stages here and just waiting on a couple things but everything's pretty much done and yeah I'm really excited about it something I know nothing about and just kind of dove into it and yeah I didn't really know how it turned out or you know how people I was hoping that people would enjoy it and you know having three young kids they just love reading books at night before bed and you know that connection that you get with your kids is really special but you know every time I reach for a book it was you know why I love anything but curling and so I thought it would be cute to make a special book for for my kids and then maybe you know other curlers who want to introduce their kids you know through their love of reading and even just you know introductory to anyone who doesn't know about the sport and you know there's I basically just molded it off of my kids favorite books so they love ABC books and associating like the letters with different things in the page and then also they love searching find like my youngest one right now we do a blue research and find every night before but I think he's going to buy now but yeah that's kind of the the promise the book is just in you know introductory to curling and learning terms and you know having some fun facts within the image that you know parents can read or you know we're at the stage right now where my sixth role is starting to read a couple books to my two year old so you know as you're learning to read sentences you know your older kids could read it to your younger kids that kind of thing so yeah I'm pretty I'm excited about it. I found an amazing illustrator and so I'm excited. someone who's done awesome with formatting. They've just been unreal to work with. And yeah, quite a learning curve for me. Yeah, it's been fun. - So did the kids have anything to do with some of the content? 'Cause that'd be kind of, it's right up there, Ellie. - Yeah, I kind of did all the ideas and stuff of the book and the general idea and just kind of showing them along the way and my daughter was just like, did you use my favorite colors mom? (laughing) Yeah, I used to use them. And then for the title page, I asked them each to pick their favorite animal from the book to put on the front cover. And so my youngest, he sleeps the turtle every night. He's obsessed with turtles. So he picked the turtle and my daughter loves unicorns as most little girls do. So that one's holding the broom on the front cover and then my son picked the fox. So there's those three animals and then there's a couple other ones on there as well. - Where were you? I had three kids. Where were you with your book? When I had to read for about a thousand nights in a row, Franklin the turtle. Oh my God. You probably got a rack of those around. - Whoa, I missed the Franklin, but with my kids. We've got a few other ones that are in the lineup. Just more newer cartoons. - Is there a central character here in the story? Congratulations by the way. What a fantastic idea. - Thank you. Thank you, yeah. Each page is, I just kind of, some pages are a little bit more realistic and then some of them are more creative. And they're all, each two pages, there'll be a letter on every page and then every two pages is kind of like a curling scene. And so all there's 13 different scenes and they're all very different and fun and showing different aspects of the game and differently as you can get involved and then also just some fun facts. - So when does, what do you timeframe as far as being able to get them out, sell them? What do you think Rachel? Like what, because obviously people, that's the first thing when people watch this, they're gonna go, well, I want one. How am I gonna get it? - You know, I looked into it a bit and you can publish on Amazon and then you can also publish on Ingram Spark. And so I'll probably go down those two roads and then, you know, I think at some slams and stuff, I think might be sold at some of the slams and yeah, I think that kind of opens up to, you know, anyone who can, who wants it. - I'm smelling a signed copy session at one of the slams. Huh? - Well, there's the curling store guy that'll probably carry it to you. Yeah, yeah. The first client, there you go. - I got you some. - You know who said that? It was Shawna. And I said, well, tell Rachel, we'll love to have it in the store. - Oh, thank you. - Thank you, come on. - How, what, go ahead. But that's awesome. How was the experience writing a book or doing that? - It was a lot of fun. You know, you have some ideas and then, you know, working with the illustrator who was just so great at bringing, you know, my ideas to life and collaborating and making some tweaks to, you know, add some cute, fun details of the sport. And then, you know, he adds, you know, his flair of design and illustration to it. It was a really cool process to see it come to life. You know, he sketched them all out in black and white from my chicken scratches, from hotel rooms and things like that. (laughing) And then, once the color was added, it really brought it to life and, you know, felt more real, real close to the end here. - Yeah. We've had Ben Hebert, by the way, as a huge fan of yours. - Yes. - Yeah, we, yeah. We, he said, you're, you're, 'cause he can be, he can be very funny. - His very, very sarcastic. And he said, you know, Rachel is one of the funniest people I know and she can, she can slip under the radar and then hit you with a cablam that absolutely cracks people up. A lot of the talk that we've had, we had Ben on and other, you know, curlers. A lot of the talk of oddly enough on the men's side is, okay, who's gonna retire now, right? And these are guys who go to the Olympics, Brad and Ben. And Brad, you know, is gonna retire. There seems to be a lot of talk about that, all of a sudden, yet they haven't even curled in the Olympics. You're gonna go for a long time. I hope you're not gonna retire, are you after this? - Unlikely. I haven't really thought too much about it. Like you said, we haven't even started the Olympics. So, yeah, it's still about a bit more to this season and then with that new pro league, they'll be in the next two and, you know, we haven't even talked as a team, you know, where everyone's at, where everyone wants to do, you know, there's lots to consider, family, friends, work commitments, that kind of stuff. So, you know, I think after this season, we'll sit down and chat as a team. But, yeah, I honestly haven't thought about it. I haven't thought about retiring yet. So that's a good sign, right? - You're not ready, you can't retire. You're not retiring. - You don't have to know. - I've been watching a lot of it. - You can't. - No. - I want you to be the flag bear at the Olympics. I've been pitching that hard. - The opening ceremonies, we won't even be there because we're in the mountain village and the opening ceremony is about five and a half hours up and over a mountain pass. So, we're talking, there's an opening ceremony, I think in Cortina, and I don't know what that looks like, but I think they're having an opening ceremony for us in the mountain village. So we're gonna look at trying to get to that. So we're an hour and a half away when that happens, either the fifth or the sixth, but then you have to get there like four hours or something in advance. And it's an hour and a half again on a mountain pass. So if there's no storms or anything, then I think we can make it, but it'll go from whatever it is, seven to 10, and then getting home at midnight one o'clock. There's a bad storm, but not something we could risk, but if the weather's good, and it's good, then we're gonna try and make that, I think, happen. You know, it's a quite a few first time going there, and I would love that experience for them and to share that with them. It's too bad we can't be in the main opening ceremonies. We have to make sure that we're doing what we need to do to perform there as well. So, I hope I can give our best and whatever we get to do on top of competing is gonna be a bonus, and that's kind of how we're trying to look at it. Don't worry about the opening ceremonies as long as you get all the cool merch. (laughs) The long jacket, the long winter. - Love the merch the best. - Love the merch. Rachel, the lay of the land, so tons of people are asking me all the time, and I don't know the answer. So you've got Cortina, about five, six hours away from Milan where hockey isn't figure skating. There's another mountain area that has various events as well, right? Some skiing ones, maybe a little bit closer to Cortina. How's the lay of the land for maybe getting to watch some other events and stuff? - I should look into it. I probably look into it once we go over there 'cause we've got like five days where we're in a different city training, and probably have more time in our hands. But yeah, I thought maybe everyone was in the mountain, but yeah, it's all spread out. So I think we have women's alpine, all the sliding sports, and maybe one other women's ski competition, but then I think ski cross and the half pipe is somewhere else, and then I'm assuming the men's alpine, all that stuff is somewhere else. Yeah, I would have to look at I would guess, like four different venues would be my guess. - Yeah, that's what I'd heard too, and I was just wondering how far apart, 'cause it'd be awesome, right, to be able to take in some other stuff while you're, of course, in the Olympics, you want Chiro and Team Canada in all kinds of things. And I didn't know how easy it would be to get from one place to the other. You keep talking about, well, from here to here, I gotta go over a mountain pass. (laughing) I don't think that doesn't sound easy to me, dude. - Well, I think there's gonna be like, shuttles and stuff. We have the 15th day, like February 15th off, but that's gonna be our recovery day, so it's not something where you wanna sit on a bus for three hours. It might be our only opportunity to see our family that's over there and visit with them, and regroup and recover. And so I don't know how much else we're gonna be able to see other than the events that are in our village. I think that'll be what we'll stick to, and just put our blinders on and focus on the job that we have to do more there. - You're not seeing any other events. I can just tell by the, you need to be, you need to have a sled dog team or a helicopter to get around. - Yeah. - To get around. - I think helicopter is the key there if you wanted to go through other sports. - Rachel, tell me this, as the best crew in the world, and you have been for a long time, incredible as what do they call it, heater, incredible heater that you're on. How do you handle stress? - The same, it's been for a while, as we've felt the pressure, we've performed under it, and we've failed under it. And when you lose, you learn from it, and you grow as an athlete, and you're not gonna learn as much from your wins as you're gonna learn from your losses. And I think we all have quite a bit of experience, whether it's on individual teams or whether we have it the four of us. We've been through a lot in the last four years, and we think that's just gonna help us going to the Olympics. We're just going to lean on that experience. I want to talk just one more thing and then I, yeah, I know you've got lots to do today. You're schedule in Italy. You've got a little bit easier start and a little bit tougher finish. You've got Sweden seventh game, Constantine Italy and the eighth game and then Team Gimm, your ninth game. Thoughts about that. I have thoughts about it. I kind of like it, but for you, but how do you feel about it? Having kind of a really tough last half compared to maybe your first half? I've even looked at the schedule. That's something you care about. Yeah, it's not something I look at before an event. It's not something I have control over. And we want to be just as ready for game one as we are for game eight. So yeah, even in an event, I don't normally know, but I'm sure I'll get more of a sense of a schedule once we're over there. But yeah, I mean, that's normally how events are for us anyways. At the trials, they had the top seeds playing at the end of the week because it's exciting for fans and things like that. That would be a draw that we're probably used to. Yeah, and not really anything we can have in an event. It just is what it is. I think it's random. The schedule. I don't think that there's much emphasis on-- I don't see any week teams at the Olympics, but Worlds, everybody played so well against us. It's going to be less teams and the top of the top from Worlds. So it's, yeah, every game. It's not going to be easy. That's for sure with the target on our back. Round Rob and format. I'm assuming-- what are they doing? Two pools or is it the page? How are they doing it? No, I think it's just a single round robin. Yep. Play all the teams. There's 10 teams. Nine game round robin. And then play off. Yeah, just a meeting of final though. Same as Worlds. OK, same as Worlds. I said it was the same as Worlds, but I don't think it's quite the same. I think there's a playing game. Although there might be a playing game in the Olympics. This is how much I look at this schedule. Just win, right? Just win when you go on the ice. Yep. Yes, more games you win the easier it is for sure. There are so many non-facts that I put up in this show, so don't worry about not knowing something. Yeah, that's good. And by the way, I appreciate you writing a book to my level. I'm quite read. I got something to read now, Kevin. Lots of pictures from Jimmy. It's a page turner. It's-- Do you like the point system that they brought on this year? You're going to be back in the slams. What's your opinion of that 321? My team in Howling, if they watch this interview, I don't know anything about points. I'm the last person to ask. And I'm not sure what do you even mean? 1, 2, 3. 3? No, this says 3 for a clean win, and then 2 for a win with a shootout. Oh, you went like, wait, it's collecting like-- Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then 1 for a shootout, loss, and then 0 for a dollar. Having the draw to get the extra-- My heart dropped. They went, oh my god, have I embarrassed myself here? Racers give me the business here. What's going on? I ran the event in November in LaDoucville 4 events, and I implemented that. And I really cut down on the tie break possibilities because of 321. Zero obviously did more differences available. Because Jennifer Jones doesn't really like that getting kicked out-- well, she got kicked out of an Olympics for God's sakes on the draw to the button stuff. Yeah. So by having a 3210, lessons your chance of that occurring. So that's what Jim's getting at is. That's a big change for the game, and I love it. But I don't know how you feel about it. I think it's good for the most part. I think I've seen a couple times where people have thrown the 8th end. And I think there could be scenarios where you could go to the-- you could just not draw for the win and kick someone out based on giving both of you the extra point. So I think there could be some-- and I haven't seen anyone trying to eliminate someone that way, but I've seen a couple teams just mail it in for the last end. And it was really worth watching, as a viewer, because they were guaranteed. Right. That was Switzerland. That was a Yonic Schwaller. And who in the heck were they curling against? And if nothing big happened in 8, they both made the playoffs. So everybody just hit out 8. And Benoit Schwartz van Birkel made the nose hit to get the one. And then they did the shootout. Because with the shootout, they both got in. You're absolutely correct. That was a good example of it. There's been quite a few-- and I don't really watch all of them. But yeah, there's been a little bit of that where I don't know that-- I mean, it is strategy, right? Like, you get enough points to get yourself into a right spot. Like, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I do think that you deserve an extra point to taking someone to an extra end. Like, if you're playing well enough that you're taking that top team to an extra end, then I think you should get an extra point. Same in hockey. You get the extra point for going into overtime. So I think there is value there. I think it makes a lot of sense. I'd rather a team go to extra ends in every game, get extra points. Other than, like, go to extra ends lose by one, and then we'll get any points. And then we'll get any recognition for playing really good. And playing good games. I think this should be recognized for that. I think that's been really good, for sure. Interesting point. Interesting point. Yeah. But then you start getting into the nuances of not playing to win. It's kind of like, if you place last in the NHL, you get the number one draft pick. And it's kind of like, well, we're going to ditch these last three or four games. Otherwise, we slip into 30th places at 31st. You're always going to get that. I don't think you're ever going to get away from a perfect system. But I do think it's good to reward the teams for taking another team to an extra end. And losing, rather than just losing in regulation. Someone losing 2 to 11 gets the same amount of points as someone losing by one in an extra. I don't think that's right. I obviously that team's playing better than the team getting blown out. So I think they should make it through playoffs over the teams that have had the losses. That makes sense. Great opinion. How do you like the system at the Olympics? Where if you win, you get a gold medal? How's that system? Is that pretty strong right there? Rachel Holman has been our guest. If you just clicked on this podcast, Rachel, I've been saying this all the last couple of months. It's-- I get a little chill when we interview an Olympian who's on their way to the Olympics. And congratulations on achieving that and good luck. Good luck with the book. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, along the way. And go Canada. Thanks a lot for coming on, Rachel. And bring home some gold, baby. Bring home some gold. We will give it our best. Nice. Good luck, Rachel. Thank you. Thank you. [MUSIC PLAYING] Well, there she goes. Author, Rachel Holman writing a book, writing a kids book. Isn't that cool? That is cool. I just think with her schedule, like she had to get off the show today because she has a lineup of things she has to do today. And I just thank her so much for fitting us in. And I see her almost every day at the salvo practicing. But this is different when you're asking time of a person who's so busy and so much stuff going on with the kids, picking up the kids and their schedules. But they have her crazy life. So I really appreciate that. Did she's able to do that? But how did she ever write a book? Where? How in the amount of time she has in the day, was it possible? So I can't wait to see it. And we'll put out a clip. Rachel was nice enough to send us the front page. So we'll put that out. So everybody can see it. And it'll be out pretty soon, according to Rachel. We might do a segment on the show called Fireside Chat with Jim. And I'll read a couple pages. My friend always said, Jerome was going to finish that book he had. But he ran out of crayons. Cool thing. I think what stemmed how that came together is-- when we had Ron, a timer to go, she was saying, for years I've curled. And when I finished, you go to sign autographs at the side. And there are be kids there. And she said, dear curl, and they'd all go, no, I play hockey. No, I play hockey. And she's saying now she's finding that some of these kids, because we've been talking about how to grow the game and get the youth. This is a brilliant idea to write a children's book about curling. And so she's smart. She's smart. A big part of her, for sure, would be given back to the game and how she could do it. And you can get it at Kevin's store. When available-- Yep, it'll be there. When available. We'll let you know when it's there. You can go in and you can buy Rachel's book. And right behind all the book, right beside it, is a bunch of gold line equipment. Oh, Jim, what a segue again. Oh my god, so strong. A right beside Rachel's book will be all that beautiful gold line stuff that's in the store. Yeah, that's right. Nicely done. Nicely done. Yeah, I got in a conversation yesterday with a customer. And we're talking about the type of slider that is on the gold line shoe. It's different than any other company. So let's just talk about that for a couple seconds. The fastest speed Teflon, the quarter-inch speed, was minus speed 10. That's what it's engaged at, versus speed 7 and so on, speed 5, going slower. But gold line figured something out with not using a true quarter-inch Teflon, but actually attaching Teflon to a hard backing, making that top layer of Teflon harder or faster. So now because of that, so when you come in the store, have a good look, many are myself, we'll show you what I'm talking about. And that's why gold line says that their top Teflon speed is actually speed 11. It's faster than any of the quarter inch Teflon because of the hard backing. It was genius. So I want to let everybody know that I've never talked about it on the podcast before, but it was just because of a customer coming in yesterday and asking me about it. And I said, "Okay, so I talked about it." But I got to talk about this on the podcast. So it's revolutionary. No question. Gold line came up with it. And it's a great thing. And that's what the sliders that are on all of the gold line product. Like I say, every team we've had on, every skipper, every guest we've had on, they all use gold lines. And Rachel as well. And I have choices. And I've chosen gold line, Kevin. Well, everybody, every manufacturer is knocking on your door. Yeah, for the stick. Well, there's a lineup again with all the sponsors and all the endorsers that want to do it. Kevin, we're getting closer and closer to the Olympics. This is great, man. Starts, I think February 3rd, which is like two weeks away, like less. What's the last? Today's lesson. Today's Thursday. So happy birthday to my son, as a matter of fact, January 22nd. Oh, there we go, Kev. Thank you very much to Rachel and Ben this week and good luck to all the Olympians and. You know, yeah, Ben, you know what? It's been a heck of a week with Bennie. And then we were doing two shows next week again. We got a guest coming on. Once again, we don't want to let the Canada out of the bag, but very cool. Something very exciting. So we'll do that next week. This week's been crazy. Talking to World Curling, of course, for the official podcast of World Curling. And talking to him this week, I don't think I can let the Canada bag of how many teams that are in the World Junior mixed doubles that we put on at the Savile. Yes. Put it on last year. We're putting it on this year in early May. But it's more than last year. Oh, it's incredible. Yes, it's and it's locked. I just don't think I can say it. We haven't put out announcement yet of which countries and so on. But really exciting, presented by Volvo cars, Edmonton, the booster juice World Junior mixed doubles curling championship is going to be at the Savile again. The first event we're doing is the stick April April. You'll be there. You've been the celebrity that I am. If you'd like to come, I'll sign autographs and stuff and do that for you. Absolutely. I'm playing in this. April 17th and 19th. The stick. We've already got lots of entries. So they're coming in like crazy. Randy Olson's in charge of volunteer and he runs the stick Alberta, a British stick association. So terrific. Right after that, we've got our triples event, which was a great success last year. The first triples cash event there's been, we're doing it again. We've already got entries in it as well. And that's April 20 to 24. The triples and then we have the U25 mixed doubles because we have a next Jan event at the Savile in between our triples and the U25 World Open mixed doubles. World Open mixed doubles goes to May 3rd. The 4th of May is the practice day for the World Championship and then the championship goes to the 10th of May. So that's exactly what's going on at the Savile for that month. So it's made things a little crazy because of course I'm gone here shortly to do the Olympics with NBC. So trying to get everything organized but it's looking really, really good. So if you're curling, sign up for one of the 1700 events that Kevin just talked about. So all that information Kevin can be found where. What everything? Yeah, yeah. Go to Savile curling.ca. Savile curling.ca when you go on that front page just like events, event registrations and you see World Stick and so on. All the events and they're right there in front of you Jim. Or come down, say hello. Come down, say hello. I'll take pictures and stuff with you guys and you're around there. So come say hi to Kevin. Have the best to last is the Scotty's starts tomorrow January. The tomorrow will be Friday January 23rd. Where does crazy? When did that happen so fast? Yeah, I'm glad we're bringing it up to everybody because it just hits you kind of fast because usually of course it doesn't start until February. But no, because of the Olympics, it's before. So it starts tomorrow, obviously on TSN and it'll be great to watch. But Rachel of course won't be in the Scotty's because of course she's heading over to the Olympics. But it'll be a great event and so tune in for sure. Start to do the math folks about how much time you have to put aside to watch curling. Okay, well that tomorrow's January 23rd, you'll go right to February 3rd, which is the Olympics. That's another two weeks. Just knock off work for six weeks and you'll be good. Okay. Hang on right after the Olympics are done only a few days later. Guess what? The briar. The briar starts. Yeah. Anyway, just tune into curling for the next eight weeks, nine weeks, something like that. And we got we got you covered. Okay, take it easy, Kev. We'll talk to you next time on Inside Curling. Thanks everyone for tuning in. Check us out on our socials. Our big ones are their YouTube channel at Inside Curling. Instagram, Facebook, X, Twitter, okay. I'm not going with X still. X Twitter. We got it all. We got you covered. Thanks Jimmy.