Quick Tips on Pricing to Make More Money This Week | Ep 756
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This podcast provides actionable pricing strategies to boost revenue and profit. The key tactic is to introduce a "decoy" product or service priced 10 to 100 times higher than your core offer, which anchors customers and makes your main price seem reasonable. This can lead to more sales of core offers and even attract "whales" who prefer premium options. The speaker emphasizes that raising prices dramatically, such as doubling them, often yields more profit despite a drop in conversion rates. For example, doubling the price of a $1,000 product with 50% margins triples profit per sale, and even a 35% reduction in sales still doubles total profit. Inflation is another critical reason to raise prices; without annual increases of 3-6%, businesses silently lose profit. The speaker cites Warren Buffett's candy company, which raised prices annually for 50 years, generating billions. For recurring customers, use a price increase letter that grandfathers them into the old rate for a limited time while highlighting new investments. Finally, base pricing decisions on data, not emotions—test new prices with a statistically significant sample to ensure the change is profitable.
In this podcast, I'm going to give you a couple quick tips on pricing that will make you more money if you just do the stuff that I outlined in this podcast enjoy, have something extremely expensive to sell that you never even plan on selling.
I learned about this anchoring tactic from a friend of mine and he said, listen man, you can just put something on your menu of items or services that you sell that's 10 or 100 times more expensive.
And justice, by having it there, it'll anchor everything else on your menu or the rest of the prices that you have.
And justice, make it something that if someone actually bought it, you'd be stoked that they did.
But what ends up happening is that one, you'll sell more people on your core offer because they have this big price anchor.
Second, it allows you to nudge up your main offers price because related to the big one, it looks like almost nothing.
I was talking to a different friend of mine and I said, hey, you know, you should consider just adding one of these things in.
And he had a weight loss business, a very generic online weight loss business.
And so he added a six times higher price version of his offer.
And then the craziest thing happened.
People started buying that more than his core offer.
And when he did that, he tripled his profit overnight.
And so The thing is, is that it also breaks you, especially if you're starting in business out of this fear of raising prices by just saying, hey, there's no, there's no way anyone's going to buy this.
I'm going to make this so expensive, no one's going to buy it.
And that's OK.
So you give yourself permission to just fly it out there.
But what you will find is that 10% of customers just want to buy the most expensive thing.
These are the whales.
And the only thing worse than making $1000 offer to somebody with $100 budget is making $100 offer to someone with $1000 budget.
Because in the first scenario you lose 100 bucks.
In the second scenario you lose $900.00 of the money that you should have made but didn't.
Raising prices almost always makes you more money, but you hear no more often.
And so let me break this down.
So I had a a sales guy in one of our portfolio companies and we doubled the price of a product.
So a lot of people are like really afraid of like 10% or 20% increases.
Like I'll test 4X5X price differences.
Pricing in many instances is far more inelastic than you think it is.
All right.
So elastic versus inelastic pricing, I'm not going to get into that.
But basically if you have a $5 sandwich going to $10 sandwich, there's a lot of elasticity with food, meaning people are very responsive to small increases in price.
The classic counterexample is if you have a life saving medication, it's not very, very elastic at all.
Meaning if you double the price, people still are going to pay for it because they need to live, right?
And so The thing is, is that if you have a very bubble thing, the price is usually a lot, a lot more flexible than you think it is in terms of how much you can move it up.
All right.
And so I like making massive price tests.
But the thing that you have to have when you do this is the balls or the stomach to deal with more nose.
And so when I walked that sales team through the price increase, I said, hey, we're going to double the price.
I said you have to understand that we're for sure going to get less or fewer yeses, but the question is will we get half the yeses?
So we had a 35% reduction in conversion percentage, but we doubled the price.
And so we made more money in multiple ways.
So one, we made more absolute revenue.
We literally just made more top line.
But the magic of this is that let's say the cost of our thing was $500 and we sold the thing for $1000.
OK, so we have 50% margins.
Well, if we double the price, we go from making $500 in profit to $1500 in profit.
So I actually triple the amount of money I make by doubling my price.
And so even if I have a 35% reduction or a 1/3 reduction in sales, I tripled how much money I made on the other 2/3 of my sales, which means me doubling the price with a 1/3.
And sales still doubled the profit in absolute amounts despite selling 1/3 fewer customers.
And one of the nice benefits of having fewer customers is that you have fewer costs associated with delivering on them.
So not only is the gross margin per customer higher, your fixed cost that you have to incur to continue to expand your infrastructure go down.
And fundamentally a smaller amount of customers that make more money is an easier business to run than more customers that make you less money.
And let me tell you how important this is because this is specifically from all my 40 plus business owners, all right?
So if you're 40 years old or higher, you tend to be more, more accepted to this concept.
All right.
I've seen businesses that have not changed their prices for five, 6-7 years, right?
Because they're afraid to do it, whatever.
But I want to give you some real hard truth right now.
In 2017, if you sold something for $100 that was your only product and you were running 20% margins as as a business.
If you did not change your price from 2017 until 2024, that $100 now means that your cost in that business have gone up by 20%, which means that your profit is now 0.
And so if you feel like your margins continue to compress year after year after year, it's usually because you're not appropriately adjusting your prices.
So to give you context, $79 in 2017 is the equivalent of $100 today.
And so that would be like you going back in time where you had a 20% margin business and running it at a $79 price point rather than $100 price point.
And so you just like that, eliminate all the profit in the business.
And so you have to do the reverse of that because inflation is a compound sounding threat to your business that every year stacks on top of itself.
And so if you're not making three 6% increases in prices at least annually, you're not even keeping up with inflation.
And to give you a little story around this, Warren Buffett when he bought these candies said that he only wanted to control one thing.
And So what that one thing was is that every year he would look at all the prices of all the candies and he would ship them the new pricing.
And he has raised prices 50 years in a row, sometimes in a single year as high as 17% on to their pricing.
And as a result of that, he's cleared himself a billion dollars in profit.
And so if it was the one thing that he focused so hard on, it might be something worth thinking about.
So if you do make a pricing change, there's two components to this.
One is new customers, the other is old customers.
The easiest thing to do is just change the price and and just apply it to everyone who's new.
That simple.
And if you're in a transactional business, then it's fine even because the old customers come back and buy again, right?
But if someones on some sort of recurring service is a little bit trickier.
Now I have some tactics around this, but I'll just give you the high levels, which is you want to have a price increase letter.
You want to talk about all the things that they're going to get as a result of the investment that you're now making into the business and that it's the only way that you'll be able to stay in business given inflationary pressures, etcetera.
All right?
And so you just want to say, here's the thing, here's the stuff you're going to get.
I want to keep my promise to you, which is to keep our thing as good as possible.
And only way for me to ethically keep my promise is for us to reflect that in the prices which are now having to be changed effective this date.
But don't worry, I've grandfathered you in to your old price by this time.
That's key is that the old customers, you say, I've grant, everyone wants to be grandfathered, you say, so I'm grandfathering you in until this date.
And that way it's not like it's changing tomorrow.
It's delaying the pain and giving them a gift right now as a way of honoring the fact that they've been loyal customers to you.
Those are the main bullets of what that price letter would go out and say.
And if you are going to raise your prices, you want to be measured about it.
You should know what your conversion rates are prior to you making the price change and you should be able to give a statistically significant sample size of shots on goal with the new price before you make a decision.
If you get on the phone and the first two people say no, well we one knew more people were going to say no, we already expected that.
And if you have, call it 40% close rates right now, well, if you make double the price and you go to 30% close rates, then that's still a great deal for you.
You might just be getting the 1st 2 no's out of the seven no's you already know you're going to get when you talk to 10 people.
And so talking to two or three people getting no's doesn't mean you need to change your price.
It might have just been the no's you were normally going to get even at your lower price.
And so you can't be emotional about this.
You have to be calculated.
And this, in my opinion, is the reason most people don't raise their prices or can't do it successfully.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Use an extremely high-priced "anchor" item to make your core offers seem more affordable and increase sales.
Raising prices can triple profit even with a 35% drop in conversion, due to higher margins and lower costs.
Inflation erodes profits if prices aren't raised annually; a 20% margin business from 2017 now has zero profit without adjustments.
Test big price increases (e.g., 2x-5x) because pricing is often more inelastic than assumed.
When raising prices for recurring customers, use a grandfathering letter that delays the increase and emphasizes added value.
Base pricing decisions on statistically significant data, not emotional reactions to initial rejections.
Summary:
This podcast provides actionable pricing strategies to boost revenue and profit. The key tactic is to introduce a "decoy" product or service priced 10 to 100 times higher than your core offer, which anchors customers and makes your main price seem reasonable. This can lead to more sales of core offers and even attract "whales" who prefer premium options.
The speaker emphasizes that raising prices dramatically, such as doubling them, often yields more profit despite a drop in conversion rates. For example, doubling the price of a $1,000 product with 50% margins triples profit per sale, and even a 35% reduction in sales still doubles total profit. Inflation is another critical reason to raise prices; without annual increases of 3-6%, businesses silently lose profit.
The speaker cites Warren Buffett's candy company, which raised prices annually for 50 years, generating billions. For recurring customers, use a price increase letter that grandfathers them into the old rate for a limited time while highlighting new investments. Finally, base pricing decisions on data, not emotions—test new prices with a statistically significant sample to ensure the change is profitable.
FAQs
Elastic pricing means customers are highly responsive to price changes (e.g., a sandwich from $5 to $10), while inelastic pricing means demand stays stable despite increases (e.g., life-saving medication). For high-value or unique products, pricing is often more inelastic than assumed, allowing larger price hikes without proportional sales drops.
Start by measuring your current conversion rate with a statistically significant sample. Then test a major change like doubling the price, tracking the new conversion rate. Even a 35% drop in conversions can be profitable if margins triple, so use data rather than emotion to decide.
It should explain improvements you're making due to reinvestment, cite inflationary pressures as a reason, and grandfather loyal customers into their old price for a limited time. This delays the pain and gives them a gift, making the increase feel fair.
Fewer customers reduce delivery costs and fixed infrastructure expenses. With higher per-customer margins, the business becomes easier to run and more profitable, avoiding the strain of serving many low-margin clients.
Add a premium version priced significantly higher (e.g., six times your core offer). About 10% of customers will gravitate toward it, as seen in the weight loss business example, where this move tripled profit overnight.
If you don't raise prices at least 3-6% annually, inflation erodes your margins. For instance, a product priced at $100 in 2017 with 20% margins would have zero profit today because costs have risen by 20%.
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