"Queer Bar + Grill" (w/ Miss Peppermint)

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I guess came in and we just be involuntarily, club, legend, art, theater, and now T, and now T, and now herbal infusions, well, there's, I'm sure you are going to school us on T, but well, because there are some things that are T, and there are some things that are infusions. Yeah. Okay. You know, you know, you know, these things are our guest notes. Now we've loved you forever. You were technically our Miss cultureista, yes, third culture awards. People didn't see this on streaming on peacock, but back in the day, when this was just a live show, peppermint was, was quite the gag when you came out in your Trader's clothes and Trader's clothes. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. We can't just talk out of her. Who like she's here. I know, I know, I know. She's not here here. She's on her way. But she is one of the grand marshals of pride. Wouldn't you know it alongside someone I know so well. Sorry. I hit Bowen Yang as to annunciate, because podcasts are a visual medium now. We didn't want it. This just happened. When I hit someone, I struck someone in the future, I'll just say I was annunciating. Yeah. You just said. I was physically annunciating by hitting my sister. Did you notice? So we, we opened the up fronts, and we had to do a little monologue at the end of the PC up fronts. And one time to annunciate my point, I did go like this. Right, Bow? Like we were like, like a, like an old couple. Old, tiny 1920s Vodville comedy couple. Oh, yeah. Which is ultimately what we are. It's all Vodville. It all goes back to Vod. Well, culture is all one system. And that's a rule. I don't know what the fuck I mean by that. I think I do. I think I do. Yeah. It's, it's the amphitheater. Wouldn't you say that our guest is in good old-fashioned, performa? A trailblaza. A trailblaza. A grand marshala. Our guest is out here beautifully expressing the right political takes. I'm just gonna say. I'm there. There you go. There you go. We'll talk about that. The right ones. The right wing ones. The right wing ones. Well, she's making her right wing debut. And this is the place for it. No, she is a legend for all time. She's the Ellen clad. So you know she's a legend. Yeah. I need to try her new transcendence tea. I think we might get to. With Moody Tees, her new collaboration. She's on season three of survival with the thickest with the one the only Michelle Visage. Michelle Visage. Michelle Boutot. Oh my god. She's seen all the Michelle's though in her day. Yes, yes, yes. All the great Michelle's Alexis Michelle theater. Everyone please welcome peppermint. Oh my god. You're in person. Lost Colch debut. Oh my gosh. It's true. Taking my virginity. Interesting. You brought the tea. I brought the tea. I brought the tea. We're gonna spill the tea. We're gonna talk about the tea. All of the tea. The memories of that Trader's moment because that was drama when we were at King's Theater in Brooklyn. It was. I feel like it was very shortly after the series. Yes. Yes. And so people were like, rife. Is that a. Yes, rife, rife. Or for a moment. Yes. And I really didn't or hadn't had the opportunity like do any Trader's things in person or like anywhere after the show. You know what I mean? I've talked about it in a couple interviews but like making a piranhas and sort of honoring the Traders hadn't really been done by me. Right. Right. And thank you. We were honored. We were honored. We were honored. What if you came out as the Trader and was sort of like a. What would you call that stage thing they do? It's like, oh no. What do you mean something's behind us and the whole audience is like, behind you? Is there a word for that phenomenon in theater? It's like a lotsy. It's like a comedia thing. I feel like it's like the Italians used to do it. Yeah. Like the audience is in on it. And that made me. What's very children's theater? Yeah. Oh yeah. There's no such thing. Where are you, man? Where are you? Anybody see it? Help me behind it. There are all of those audience. What the. Peppermint is behind you. What? Oh my God. That was so fun. I loved it. Yeah. I wanted to do it again. Do it again. L.A. May 30th. Well, but this is by the time this episode is out. Okay. Become. It'll be too though. Yeah. It's fun. Like the last culture. It's the world. Darling. Wow. What about that moment? That moment, darling. Come on. Come on. We sure topped ourselves. It's only. It's only. Literally. I think about it. Topping? No. I've seen a video once. Not of you. Of someone topping themselves? Yes. It's a real thing. Explain it. Somebody was laying in their bed or whatever. Yeah. And they just like, you know. But then. That's just a tuck. No. It's like the ultimate tuck. The ultimate. No tape required. Darling. It was like. And I was like. Oh! They've done this before. Wow. And I was like, that's impressive. That's. I can't imagine it's pleasurable. They moved the furniture out of the way. Yes. And so it is like a tuck. And then they went into the tunnel. Uh-huh. And they were like. There's a tunnel behind the. There's a tunnel behind the furniture. This metaphor is amazing. I'm wondering if I can pull it off. I'm genuinely sitting here wondering if I can pull it off. You'd have to be really long, I guess. Right. And. And you have those long ones. He wasn't that. Endowed. I mean, it was. And long enough. You know. I would say. Taint distance. Short taint. That's what it is. It's short taint. They had a short taint. Yeah. Good grief. Mom, I'm sorry. But when we all discovered the word taint. And it was like one of those things that like. Like pre-teens or middle school kids discovered the word taint. And then it becomes the word of the year 2009. I think they invented it. Yeah. Pre-teens. Because. That's not really the word, is it? It's not the word. It's not the word. Perenium. Perenium. Oh. But. Which I think kind of sounds shaker. I like that better too. Because taint sounds like. Honey, I'd taint go on and do it like. It sounds like an expression. Something that's tainted. Yeah. It's tainted. Yeah. Yeah. It's tainted. It's tainted. That was. That was. Bob used to do that. Do the God Warrior lip sync. At Beracuda. Missed me at rest. R-I-P. R-I-P. Because that was where you. Because you would have. Tried the boards at Beracuda. I sure did, darling. Everywhere. I was there. I mean, pretty much. Legend. Hello. Legend. Yeah, I worked at Beracuda. I did Monday nights after Candice Kane. Wow. After she left, she sort of passed the crown on to me. That slot though is as powerful. That was the one. That was the one. You wouldn't think for like a. Like a Monday, like a day of the week. It's not. You know, that's not the one you think of. But that was the show. I guess they trusted. The girls. They trusted the girls. But do you remember every weekend? Every weekend when it was Bob's. Oh yeah, every Monday when it was Bob's sort of tenure. And then I think Bob headed it to Monet. It's true. But then do you remember who you headed it to? Bob. Oh! Wow. Yeah. That's incredible. It was. I think Shakwita had Mondays before. Definitely Shakwita. It was Mona. I think Mona had Mondays at one point. Then Shakwita had Mondays for sure. Because it was called the Galee Show or something like that. And then it was Candice. Then it was me. Then it was Bob. Then it was Monet. And then. And then it all kind of. Then it kind of. Yeah. Where she rushed around. Where she rushed around was porridge. But wait. Do you remember your entrance music? It was a. Whatever I chose. I chose. To perform. Yeah, I got it. Because Bob was always. Bob the drag queen. Can't she turn in? Can't she turn in? Can't she turn in? Bob the drag queen. The track queen. - Yes. - Answer is no harm, will she, we're waiting. Just kidding. - It depends. - And yeah, that's okay. - We all get to show up whenever we want. - I mean listen, I showed up. Our time was not the same time slot every week. - Yeah, sure. - It was the witching hour. - 11.30. I remember we were there. - It is. - Okay. - We were going 12.4.5, 12.10. - Yeah. - But those were fun then, we're just kind of got a little restless. - It was late and people would stay and it would be good. And sometimes I'd, you know, I would feel bad. So I'd bring chicken wings or something. - Oh, just have a, like a barbecue at the restaurant. - Yeah, I'm just like, "Hey y'all, I brought wings!" And I'm like, "No, you're not, you're not going to be mad." - How good you are to round me the wings. And you're going to do a number? Shut up and sit down and eat. - It's Monday night. - It's Monday night. - I miss Barakuda most of all. - I do. - It's where we would go, especially if anything was playing at MetLife. - Oh wow. - We would go there. - We would go there. - Just because it's like by the bridges. - Yeah. - Before and after, sometimes. - We pre-gamed Renaissance Day. We pre-gamed Chromatica there. - Yes. - Yeah. - I mean, that's pretty recent in my-- - I know, I know. - We're talking as if it's like decades. - Just means, like, if you're talking about pre-gamed memories, like those were two of the ones. - But I feel like Chelsea is like, kind of desolate now in terms of like the nightlife. - I mean, I've been there. - I have a couple weeds. - 100%. - Damn, that's sad. - Is Jim Bar still there? - I think. - I don't know, I hope. - I do never know anymore, and like, honestly, that is maybe an indictment of us for not going out there. - I know. - Of the culture in general where it's all like, this is happening all around the world. Or I'll keep it to America. But it's like, the gay bar is in like these like, more like manageable, quote unquote queer spaces that aren't like huge warehouses or huge parties. Like, they just don't see as much foot traffic now. - I know, yeah, it's their destination. - They're destination? - Yeah, but it's because it's all because people come in for these big parties that are like, in a warehouse under the highway, which are fun, but like, it does kind of cannibalize something about like the bar scenes. - Yeah, which, I mean, maybe, maybe I hate the thought that like, oh, everything's so cyclical, 'cause it sounds like a cliche, but like, before the bar stuff, I was up in the warehouses. - Uh-huh. - At the club. It's like a pommel and, you know, sound factory and like limelight. I mean, they were clubs and were like, warehouses, but like, they were these great big places where everybody would go. - Yes. - And you weren't sitting around talking, you know. - And you were saying it swung back to bars. - Yeah. - Around 2002-3 is when it started to get more about the bars. - Uh-huh. - You know, I mean, obviously, we always, the bars were always there. - Yes. - But like, the scene really kinda distilled into that. - What do you think you can attribute that to? - I remember drag race got us to the bars a lot. And when it became, you probably obviously saw, like all of a sudden everyone shifting their attention to drag queens in a different way. - I mean, I think before drag race, it was desperate housewives. I mean, there was desperate housewives viewing in a lot of gay bars. - On Sundays. - On Sundays. - We were, we did not get here at the right time. That was our time. - That was our time. - We were desperate housewives. - I mean, it was like, you knew, you just walked down the street and it'd be like some in non-descript bar. And then you hear all the queens, like, "Oh, no, she did it." (laughing) - Oh, she slept with her, her mat. You know, like, whatever, like, yes. - All the guys crying because Gabriella, like, like, had to give her baby that. - Give her baby what? - Yeah, give her baby what? - My heart is falling in love with her. - Every single episode ended in like a major cliffhanger. - Right. - So here's the voice of her go, yes. - Gabriella did have a secret. And it would cost. - Yeah. - Everything. - Uh-huh. - I like that close next door. - Orson. - Who? - Sorry, please. - A brief second husband is next door in the next door. - Oh my gosh. We have two. - Antwerpings, obviously. - Yeah, yeah. - All the rest. - And I con. - Well, first there was Rex van to camp. Then there was Orson. - I was a desperate housewives. - Yes, we were. - I mean, I hosted it because I did karaoke that night. It was the award-winning karaoke in this thing. - Okay, let's go, of course it was. - Oh, of course. - I came on the cover of two all of the game magazines in New York City at the same time. - Two. (laughing) - You know. - What was the karaoke thing? - It was called "Sing Out Sister." - What was your number? - Oh, this song. I mean, I would, in my sleep, it would be like faith by George Michael. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I feel like God, you know what I miss? - What? - Time out and you open up, time out in New York and be like, this is my weekend. - Oh, yeah, I just don't have that number. - "Sing Out Sister" was like a time at New York fixture. Like, critics pick, like, go to this. Hostage-based peppermint. She's gonna sing "Faith by George Michael." - Hello. - Hello. (laughing) - Same work. (laughing) - But that was the gig. - That was the gig, honey. - Speaking of the gig. Wait, can we talk about transcendence? - Yes, we can. - Tell us everything about it. Why is it this gorgeous color? - Okay, I am a tea drinker, not a coffee drinker. And I wanted to do something fun, not like a T-shirt or some kind of, you know, like. - Not like a T-shirt. - Socks or whatever. - March. - Armored shorts found dead. - Yeah. And so I decided to partner with Moody Tea Company, which is a small queer-owned black-owned company that creates tea blends that soothe the soul. - Yes. - And so we developed transcendence, which is a deep blue vanilla mint tea. - It's purple, non-coffin, and it's delicious. I love it so much. - Can we try some? - Yes, but. - But. - Oh no, there's no but. (laughing) - There's a perennium. - Yes, but. - But. - I kind of love that. - Yes, but. - And then you just go ahead and do the thing. - Where are you? - Okay. - Here we go. - And, wow. - This is elegance. - Mmm. - This is not your fault. - This is my pot. - You brought it? - I travel with the tea pot now. (laughing) - Okay. Now, we need to ask Tony about his name. - Wow, this is gorgeous. - Yeah, just the color of it, the elegance, the style. - And. - Wow. - So what makes it blue is the blue butterfly pea flower, naturally occurring blue. And so if you drink, oh, let me get myself in time. - Yeah, I know, we have to all do it together. - If you, in the summertime, if you want some iced tea and you put a slice of lemon or any citrus, and it magically turns to a beautiful pinkish purple. - Oh. - Because it changes the pH. - Well, cheer, cheer, cheer, cheer, cheer, so happy. - Yes, this is the collector's edition mug. With the collector's edition set, it usually just comes loose leaf in a bag like this, but then there's the collector's edition set. And that's it. - It's fab. - This is delicious. - Oh, this is exactly what you need. - Mmm. - Now they. - Mmm. - Mmm. - It would have been, like did these lovely people at Moody Tea go? - And we'd love for it to be a peppermint tea. - We talked about it together, and there was lots of different options. - Yes, yes. - You know, but I've wanted it to be peppermint, you know? I mean, I'm not gonna do like some cinnamon flavor, you know? I mean, maybe round two. - Excuse you. - Okay. - Cinnamon has a major point. - It does. - I think, I think cinnamon tea, I love like a cinnamon. - I love a cinnamon. - It's tasty, and it has some health benefits, but not as many health benefits as peppermint. - Okay. - As mint for your stomach. Just everything. - Now darling. - Did this, did it basically like make you even more of a tea person, or were you already the tea girl? - I was, I mean, I drank a lot of tea beforehand, but I definitely turned into a tea maven. I don't know. - Tea snob. - Tea snob. - Tea mother, you were being mother earlier. You know what tea, British tea, they go, shall I be mother? - Oh, and then poor, hey, I didn't even know that. But I learned a lot about tea. I learned that tea, like the reason tea is so connected to British culture is because they were trying to get their workers to not take lunch breaks. Tea, not only drinking tea, but the tea, like the time, the time of. - The time of death. - No lunch breaks, and we need you to stay working. It's capitalism. So we need you to ingest sugar, tea. So like that was what they would have with sugar, which was really, really rare. Like you wouldn't put sugar on a lot of things back then. - Yeah. - And so they're like, let's get you a sugary drink, and tea at the time was the drink that you would put sugar in. - Right. - And it also was caffeinated. - And it was caffeinated. - Isn't this like such a crazy thing? We're like, oh, there's like dainty little drink. - Oh no. - So it's responsible for like, is like a product of and responsible for like colonialism. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Let's go conquest. - Like, let's go like invade these other countries because they have the best teas. - I gotta say one. - I gotta say one. - Yeah. - Like, it's crazy. Like, like, but now we think if tea is just like a whole something, oh my god, you're like, you're drinking hot water, you're trying to maxing, you're drinking tea, but it's like, no, this is like fucked up. - It's serious. - It's serious. - It's cause a lot of drama at the tea party. - Yes. - Your tea can be problematic and tea can be even transphobic. It is if it's not this tea because this tea, in addition to being delicious, also, a portion of every single sale goes to advocates for trans equality, which is a national organization that helps the trans community. - Incredible. So then I'm throwing out all my celestial seasonings. - That's right. I would definitely them. (laughing) - They're transphobic. I mean, I don't know, but let's say they are. - Well, they're not this, so yeah, they're not this way. Damn it. - If you ever are in Boulder, Colorado, you must go to the Celestial seasonings, like, tour. - Factory, like, factory tour, they get to have the mint room. - Oh! - Wait, what's in the mint room? - It's where they keep all the mint. - It's a fresher dried. - It's like already, it's dry. - No, and it's like a cold, like, meat locker situation, but you've lost it in, and it is-- - I know it does. - Vicks, vapor, rub, fan, just honey. - It's a mate, but it's the best feeling. No, it's actually-- - The favorite fragrance. - Vicks. - I'm wearing Vicks right now. - Wait, that's G. - That's it. - I mean, that is a Gilder Radner throwback. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. But you have to go to the Celestial seasonings. - I have to check it out. I mean, I'm gonna go tour all the tea places. I gotta go check it out. Yeah. - You gotta know the competition. What have you learned about teas in this process? - Infusions versus tea. I mean, fruits, things that are fruity are more infusions, and it's like that. Tea will have leaves in it. - Yes, yes, yes. - So that's the basics. - Uh huh. - And I mean, I've learned a lot about tea. You know, different ingredients have different blends have different steep times. This one is a good like five to seven minutes for all the benefits to come out. - Yeah. - You know, obviously the longer you steep it, the deeper the flavor becomes. - And what are you doing in the five to seven minutes? - How do you wait for tea? Are you clicking the fingers on the counter? - I hope you're not watching. - The boil, the, the, the, the, what do you call it? The kettle, the kettle, the kettle, the kettle. - Oh, the boiling pot of the boil. - The boiling pot of the boil. - Do you hear me swimming in the ocean? - They're gonna make sure that the budget goes through and that they don't, uh, uh, uh, enact austerity on New York City. - Like, talk about it. - Well, I don't, I don't have anything to say beyond this. I mean, why is it, but why is it affecting New York? Because it's the federal, it's the federal budget. - It's the federal budget. That trickles down. I mean, they're obviously, there's like city, state and, uh, federal budgets. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That different resources and different services use. I mean, federal does impact something. It's like a domino of that. - Of course, of course. - And when you consider the relationships that are also tied to some of those things, the, if you don't let this federal budget pass over here, you ain't getting this over there. - Right. - Then, Julie, men in our speaker, um, you know, then you end up being corrupt and making decisions that are, um, not in the best interest of the voters that will get. - Yeah. Let me drink this drink. - Oh, Julie, oh, I think it's funny. - This is calming. - This is calming. - What I love about like social media, uh, uh, and the media being so sensitive now is you, they really can't get away with anything, but they act like they can. And you know what's funny? They do, because people don't do their due diligence. They don't find out if these people are, you know, taking corporate money. They don't find out if they're bought or paid for it anyway, and then you, you get very tripped up because people get called progressive and I'm sorry, but I don't think that you can call yourself progressive if you have a very bad rating from organizations that track, whether or not you've taken corporate money and continue to do that. So don't, don't tell me who's progressive when you can do a simple Google search. - There's nothing to say. It is 100% true. - It's, it, it just is what it is, but we're not, oh wait, I didn't know what's happening. - That looks like a chic little hand toss like. - Oh yeah, I was like what? - Do you know what the, what the, what the key is, look at the elbow, oh for the, for the high five connection. - Oh, and then you know. - Oh yeah. - It's, it's a perfect day of me every time. - So then you don't have a missed moment. - Yeah. - Like not like politicians are missing the moment every day. - Every single one. - Every single one. - Let's speak on it. I don't, I feel like I asked you this simplest, most like ninth grade civics class question. Well how does the federal budget affect the municipal one? - You know what, that's fair because a lot of us don't take civics anymore. They've like removed it out of his education. - Of course. - Yeah. - Growing up for, for me at least it was like, I remember our social studies teachers like trying to dance around certain things about like teaching us the constitution when like Bush, W Bush was president and she was like, how am I gonna explain this? And now I'm like, I can't imagine what these fucking like teachers have to, how they have to like sort of package it without like getting, without like one of the kids going home being, well, Mrs. Patrick said this and this about Trump or like suggested. They just don't even teach it. I mean, like it's not even in the curricula anymore and I think it's just like, you know, teach American exceptionalism, like we are great and we are free and, you know, any threat to us is just a threat to our freedom and that's it. Meanwhile, you have Palantir, how this video's getting struck, stricken and struck. - Yeah. - You're getting stricken and struck. - No, I mean, this is, this is the thing about, about things like Palantir. Now trying to like, aestheticize all of like the nefarious shit where like, it's all like, they are surveilling in us but like, let's make a cool like rugby shirt with our logo on it. And that'll be great. Like that, that, that kind of extended, it launders like the image in some way where it's like, well, if people are gonna wear our cool fun clothes, like they marchify like the fucking evil. - Yeah, they want, I think they really are depending on people sort of devolving into this like, I only care about like, my, yeah, like find little stuff, little clips and like, whatever, like stuff that just makes them feel good and shopping or whatever, without realizing that the material conditions and needs that they have are connected to all these huge corporations that are taking money out of the pockets and taking their, taking your actual freedoms away. It's not a brown person or a trans person. - No. - It's a corporation. - Yes. - That, I think, is leading to another thing which is we are becoming so numb to that because I think the prevailing narrative from all of these corporations and I was actually watching Hacks and the comeback last night and they both spoke about AI and it's the same, it's the same idea that the AI creators and the people that are sort of, you know, in power are saying, this is happening whether you like it or not or, or the future is happening so join it. - The idea of like, there's a great monologue that Hannah Einbinder found out about Max. - No, it's amazing. - Where she was just like, this is the problem is that you're telling us it's inevitable and therefore we're just supposed to accept that and march into this reality when the fact is you are the only person that benefits from that inevitability. - Yeah. - So this idea that we don't have a choice across the board is so degrading to the soul of this country which the second you really step out of it and start thinking about it, they've been degrading us from the beginning because they've made us feel we were in service to our country, not that they are in service to us and it's just shocking to see them parrot this. Well, it just doesn't matter, AI is here. Like this is the way our government is, like capitalism is the correct way. It's just crazy to see what we've accepted and what people continue to accept. - I mean, they, I guess they have to change the definitions of a lot of things with capitalism. I thought capitalism just meant being free to buy things and making your own decisions. That's right, thought capitalism was and that can't be a mistake. That is a byproduct of everything I learned, whether it was from school or the media and the TV shows we were watching and the slogans that the politicians were saying. So when you misdirect people and they're on some other path and of course it's easy, they can convince us that Palantir is just the shirt, then people like, sure, we want the shirt and then they're going to accept it and that, that sort of paired with this well, it's just inevitable and it's not because they're there trying to sell it to us. That's what they're doing. They just need us to believe that we want it. - Exactly. - Because another thing Hannah says in that monologue is she's like, you can't tell us that it's inevitable and that like it's just here when you're the one selling the product. So it's like, this is like a sales pitch. - Yeah, it's a sales pitch. The only thing that's inevitable is us and what we've ultimately decided to do. Or agree to do. Or decide not to do. - And the only thing inevitable is transcendence by moody-tune, that's right. That's inevitable. - It was kind of jarring yesterday because you see, like it was in the center of both of the television series I was watching and they were both comedies. Because something I had thought about with show business and stuff is it's like, they're gonna come for the things that they think are easily replaced first, you know what I mean? And I think that's like, for example, they're saying the thesis of the comeback was, oh, AI can write comedy because you don't need to be a genius to do it. It's like, they're talking now, like these bros that want to look out for other bros I guess, like, oh, authors are gonna be okay. Like, don't worry, like these people that we actually respect because you're also men and indoctrinated into culture. Y'all are fine. We'll look out for you. We'll just help you with this tool. It's gonna keep everyone else down. Like it's gonna take, it's gonna rob everyone of everything that we don't take seriously, which is gonna be gay art, queer art, black art, like honestly, and then the low art forms quote unquote, which is comedy and is low key, like experimental stuff. And that is gonna be the first thing. And what they're saying is the low art forms and what they're saying is like, you know, disposable. Everything for women. Exactly, pretty much all those subjects that they deleted out of the federal vernacular last year, out of all the federal grants, and out of all the websites. and removing Trump. Dare you removing trends from the Stonewall website where you see people, but you're right. People aren't going to do any bit of research. There were people up in the comments when they took the pride flag down from Stonewall and Sheridan Square that from the Stonewall National Monument, they were saying, "Well, a gay flag doesn't belong on a national monument." What the hell do you think the national monument is about? >>Exactly. >>Exactly. Also, how do they, how are they experts on monuments, all of a sudden? >>They're not. >>Case and point. They don't even know what this one's about. >>Exactly. >>It's just so wild for everyone in power to be like, "We have to keep pushing forward. The systems in place have not worked. Our country is a failed experiment. So the systems in place are not pushing us forward. Like you were the only one with the megaphone so you get to say that. But it's America didn't work. >>I remember, and I'm trying to, right now I'm trying to go back and sort of redeem like, where do these ideas get into my head? >>I remember the idea of, in terms of politics, someone saying, "Well, I eventually just started parenting." Well, you know, it's basically they just trade back and forth and that's politics. You know, like first the right has it then the left, red, blue, red, blue and that's it. Which just kind of lulls us into this status quo. Nothing will really change and everybody knows that like, nothing really changes. They just change power every few years and that's it. It doesn't have to be that way. >>No. >>I loved what AOC said the other day because you know, they're asking the most boring fucking question at Nazia. I'm like, what's your political aspiration in 2028? Is it a Senate Cedar? Is it the presidency? And she turned and she said, you know what, I'm different from everyone else you're going to ask this question too because I haven't aspired to this office. I don't aspire to a title. I don't aspire to leadership. That has not been what this is about for me. My aspiration is to change this country. >>About this. >>And single payer is forever and like a title is not like you can be the president for four or eight years and that is the rule and like, and that's it. But she answered that question in a way that I think makes her singularly set up to lead this country in a way that we need because she's not in service of herself. >>Exactly. >>And chasing power and money and greed, which is what all of the elected officials are doing. >>Oh, look at that. >>They're publicly like on talk shows now being like, well, I'm very powerful as the Congressperson. And you're like, listen. >>You're not supposed to say that actually. >>We don't want that. >>That's the only way you maintain it and that's the way you protect it and then if you're doing anything in the best interest of a corporation, like corporations by definition, in general, do not have the best interests of people. Like human beings, the country, the planet, the environment, resources, disabled people, black people, trans people, queer people, they don't have any of that in their best interests. They have making more money than they did last year. That is the definition of what a corporation is and that doesn't work. It's not sustainable. It's just not. Even if you are a politician that's on the take and getting off, you're going to be out one day. The corporations are going to be like, you know what, we're done with you. We found a new one that's cheaper and we'll do it better. >>You guys. >>I'm sorry. >>I get my make- >>No. >>You're so angry. This tea really is an elixir to make you angry. >>No, no, no. But I'm really happy that we're talking about it, especially this episode is coming out June 24th. Y'all are about to be the grand marshal. >>Oh, my God. >>I'm so proud of both of you because you're both amazing representations of queer people to play. >>Cling, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, and I just feel like you guys must be psyched. It's going to be such a fucking amazing day. And now a quick break from our sponsor, Vital Proteins. >>And it is vital. Collagen peptides is a wellness supplement that supports healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. >>When we hit 30, our body's collagen production starts to drop and that's when vital protein steps in. >>Their iconic blue tub is everywhere. 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Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Someone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. >>We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. >>Can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this around? >>Yeah. >>Okay. >>What is the surprise one, man? Actually, you think the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. >>Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. >>I would never let go of that. >>I would never set expectations for something like that. >>It seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen, I am open to. >>I'm always going to accept. >>Okay. >>Banley McBride, fine. >>Yeah. >>Salt is fragile masculinity, exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with you. >>I was like, "Is that weed?" >>No. >>It's fragile masculinity. >>Ben's still or no? I think there's a lot of times out of context, people don't get it, or even know what a circle is. >>I think it's so stupid. >>Everyone's so dumb. >>And fake. >>Frank, fake and also not interested, or just like, "Oh, I've got my life, I don't care about your life." >>And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. >>Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show, and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. >>Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. >>If you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Pro's Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. >>I'm going to have to look up this story, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. >>From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, and that is the Trojan horse. >>Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro's Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. >>Listen, I really fucking love that March, and I know, and actually, I wonder how you feel about this, because I feel like as someone who's participating in the official structure of the Pride March, I'm realizing, and I'm really understanding that there are these different needs at the March fulfills, and that something alternative like the queer liberation March also fulfills, and that it. And they are maybe at odds with each other sort of philosophically, but I think it's just about this unresolved tension there is within queer life, which is some people want visibility and safety and some kind of institutional support, which will never be real liberation. But then there are people who kind of see beyond that and who might have the understanding and the, um, a certain attitude around like this is what I think we should stand for. This is actually going back to the origins of pride and what March of Pee Johnson did. Like I think there's like, I think there's this like for now, there's this thing where those things are both happening at the same time for a reason that I think is very good. Like you can, you can show up to the 11 a.m., so the queer liberation march, 11 a.m., on the 28th, um, at the AIDS memorial, it goes to Lemape Circle, um, if that is like a specific sort of like intention you want to go into the pride march with. I think we're doing it in the sort of the official capacity where we get to maybe do a little thing with Zoron, with our mayor, we like get to like talk about where it was coming from within the queer umbrella. Like I think there is like, I don't know, I'm trying to be like expansive about this idea which like I feel conflicted as a queer person, obviously, you know what I mean? I mean, especially since over the years, the official pride parade, which now's named as to March, became so corporate. Yes. Like, yet again, we already know that like, they left, they left, they were like, oh my gosh, here comes course light with their, with their pride flag or whatever. I never knew we let. Oh, never mind. Exactly. Before we can get two words out of our mouth, they're gone. And that is, I mean, that's just again, you have another example of how corporations will leave you high and dry and everything is a performative. Yep. And it is important to have inclusion in all these, um, just, just be, just as, so much as in these corporations employ people who are queer, who are all, all different types. And so that is, that visibility is important through that sort of, you know, pulling these corporations to be like good corporate citizens or stewards or whatever. But you know, ultimately they don't give a hell what it is. We've seen it. We've seen it. We literally have. Yeah. And so that is, and you know, that is catalyst for a lot of people to, to want to start up the queer liberation march, you know, and I think that's fantastic, especially given 2020 and the relationship with the police. And like so many of these different systems and institutions in the city and beyond that have a bad history with the queer community. And so I support the queer liberation march 100%. It's necessary. That's what we obviously need to be sort of the lifeblood and what's at the core. I think we as a community and as a country lost sight of what it was, you know, ultimately I think as a black person, as a trans person, part of the queer community, yes, I want visibility. I want to see, and I'm eating into my, my little rant later, I want to see, like, you know, inclusion and queerness and black trans people here and all this. I want to see that everywhere visible and, and I want to see that for at least for the sake of people being inspired to know that they can actually hold those positions later. But why is that necessary? It's necessary because in the past, those positions, those opportunities were held from people, and it wasn't just because they didn't want to have somebody on TV. They didn't want to have somebody on TV who was queer or this or that because it gave people the opportunity to think larger and it would give them and give them access to personal power and the ability to ascend so they could get access to medications and healthcare and housing and food and they'd find a way to do that, not through the typical systems that want to charge us a subscription. Just like the Black Panthers were enacting their free breakfast program and they went and shot them all up. They didn't shoot them all up because these were Black people that were holding guns. They shot them all up because they were providing free breakfast to the, to a poor neighbor because it was a socialist. Exactly. And that is the biggest threat, obviously, to capitalism. And so when we have queer people who see another way that we're not desperate, we're not held into these little boxes, then that is the threat. And so we lost sight and we thought that, oh, the company changing their logo to a rainbow was all I need. And it's not. Honestly, it, I, right now in 2016, I want healthcare, I want housing that I can afford and I want safety and food, you know, I don't even need money if I have those things. Right. The basics are laughing. The basics. That's what, that's what we need. You are such a good messenger. You really are. Like have you always had, like even before drag, have you always been a political person or do you find that over the years you've been emboldened to this, to use your voice in this way because it's vulnerable. Very. Thank you. It's fine tuned, for sure. Like, you know, with my experience, but I remember my mom told me, I did not know this. I about myself. I knew I was talkative in school, but like I think in second grade, I riled. This is wild. I rallied every single student in the room, in the class to sign a petition, to state and declare that it was not fair that the black students in the room were not treated equally. Wow. Wow. You want to see the real kicker? I got all the white students to sign at the top because I understood the power differential and that that would be, they had white skin privilege and that the message would be better received coming from them. And it was my idea. Wow. Can you believe that in second grade? Where do you think that intuition came from just from being in your body and your experience and knowing, like seeing that maybe the white kids got listened to called on first, like what was it exactly baked into you? I don't know because I don't remember, but I must have noticed it in the class, but it's not like they were like, you know, our teacher wasn't like in the KKK or anything. Yeah. Right. I don't think so. No, exactly. That's why she was always wearing that white dress. Oh my God. But no, she wasn't. She was not. She was not. But my grandparents were heavily involved in the civil rights in the 60s and my grandmother was an educator and so you know, like I definitely like got the vibes and the vapors from my grandmother. Yeah. You got the vapors. My grandmother. Because I feel like you also have this like personal history in terms of like, let's just say like rallying people up with, I feel like, with like cheerleading too, right? Yeah, I was cheerleader. I feel like I remember that we were talking about it on the first episode, six years ago on Zoom. Yeah. But I feel like, I feel like this is what you do like you get in front of people and you go, let's do this. Let's do this. I know. And I remember, I used to work at a makeup store and hated the way that we were being treated. And I remember saying, y'all, let's all walk out. If we all leave, they can't do anything about it. Do you know, like that was, it's always been in my, yeah, I want to stay to walk out so bad. Yeah. Sorry. Even let's just. We're out of here. By the team. We all got a lot more. Wait, I miss talking. But like, did you guys, did you guys end up doing the walk out? No, they were pussy. See? Oh, we couldn't get them on board. Yeah. But that's the vulnerability. That's the thing is it's like, you realize it's like, hey, let's all do this thing in theory. Yeah. And then you actually have to do it and you see it's, it's hard because, and especially now and the reason why it's like tech companies specifically that are like a massing, well, they got us, they're massing all these things and they're kind of like, lowering us into like, placidity or whatever, if that's the right word, is that we are, what tech companies provide is convenience. And since things are so convenient now, and since all these things are wrapped up in this tech convenience, it is very hard for us to pull away from that in a political sense to be like, we have to do this thing in order to like, I don't know, like hit the carotid or whatever. I mean, I still, and deep in my brain, it's still instilled in me that that monopolies are illegal and that, you know, competition is what drives the American spirit. But all that's been eliminated as of 20 to 1987, it doesn't really, it doesn't exist. And so the price for convenience is privatization. And having one corporation own not only the food that you put in your mouth, but the factory that it comes from, the store that sells it, the truck that drives it there, the seeds that are planted to use it, the spray, the chemical spray that goes on that, that kills us anyway. And so like one company, I mean, it's like alien in the movie. Remember that movie? An alien movie. There was one corporation. It was so, what you just watched all the alien movies, what, yeah, that's just one. That's it. They owned everything. You're housing, you're food, you're entertainment, you're whatever. Skynet vibes. Yeah. That's one. That's Skynet, it's Skynet. We don't want that. Well, oh my God. See, like, or Cyberdyne was the owner, I don't know, one of those Skynet and then Cyberdyne was the evil program. Like, I always rolled my eyes at that sci-fi trip of like, oh sure, one company will own everything. But I'm like, oh fuck. No. Sci-fi is always the most important thing to look at in culture. Because sci-fi is the thing that is talking about. And by the way, sci-fi has been screaming in our faces about AI for longer. Not really. Or so like, hey, look at everybody reading. Literally. But like, we did not need this many warnings. And by the way, watch any movie with AI or like corporate takeover or any of this stuff. You will notice there are no happy endings. There's no, well, we gave it all up to the machines. But we were able to stay on top. That doesn't. That's not a thing. No. It wins in the end. It wins in the end. - It's wild because we're talking about all these, you know, So the concept of needing to be a rallyer and also wanting to be a model of positivity but also truth in a world where the truth is, a lot of things are fucked and the truth also is that if people get the opportunity to advance in power, they probably will. But it's funny because tomorrow I'm giving the commencement speech at my department and Tish and my you. So I was from the dramatic writing department. So amazing. I'm going to give the commencement speech and I'm speaking to a group of people who are entering the entertainment industry as writers, so basically what I'm going to, I was talking to Jared about it last night, I was like, basically like, I want to be realistic about what it is, but also want to be optimistic. And I think the only answer and this is, we say it ad nauseam. And so therefore it can sound a little boring on impact, but it really is about community. If you look up to people, you'll be disappointed. If you look out and up at what the world is or what it has become or becoming, you'll be disappointed, but I find you won't be disappointed if you look around because I can draw a straight line back to my community that I met at NYU in the queer life. When I looked around, I was never disappointed by people. When I look up, when I meet some heroes of mine, sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised. But other times, it's rough and when you see behaviors that you don't recognize in people as they become whatever they're becoming and as the world becomes more stark to you when you realize that there is a label on everything or that we do live in this type of society, I find that if you just look to your left and right at the people that you're really with and physically alongside, you have a gift there. Because in that area, to your left and to your right, those people are experiencing the same conditions that you're experiencing. I believe that the human nature is, if we're all, I do believe that some of these billionaires are just like, I won't say evil by nature, but they've been corrupted and so they're so cut off from the everyday person. But I do believe that if a billionaire, somebody who's extremely poor and somebody else who's this and that, we're on some island and a tidal wave was coming to kill us and we had to work together to do the thing. We would all work together to do the thing. You have to. We have to. Like, unless somebody's like, well, I just give up. But I think we would all do that. And so that speaks to where we are now, for the masses, for the not one percent. Exactly. Because if you don't own a private jet, you are on the island. It's so funny when you actually draw who the 1% is, it's like, oh, it's obscene. Like, I'll see again, I'm invoking a second time, send the other day on a lot of, a lot of lasers. Great podcast, by the way, that you, there's no way to earn a billion dollars. You don't earn it. You don't earn it. You exploit your way into it. Or you can inherit it from people that exploited, to maintain what they had. But that speech is, that's such a great thesis for your speech. And it's, I love it because this is my dream, and I'm so happy you get to do it. I'm just going. Everybody look to your left. No, I don't know. Everybody look to your right. It's like, I, that is such a gap. Well part of it is going to be like, I'm going to do the cliche thing, but I promise it pays off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go back. Look to your right. Look to your right. Look to your right. Look to your right. Look to your right. What do you like, Jesse J story? So I went to go see Jesse J in concert in LA, decided that day I was going to go to the Tower Grand Ballroom with Judy. We went. I knew, I, I, I didn't, I thought she might sing thunder. We all know thunder. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, get this. Thunder is the national anthem in the UK, only the good, queer snow in here sit. And anyway, so I just yell out thunder and Jesse J from the stage goes, somebody looked at the set list online and I go, I swear, I go, I swear I didn't and she goes, bring the lights up and I go, no, no, no, no, no. So then she says, who said it? And I literally was like, it was me and at that point, like all the gays seeing Jesse J were like, there's Matt Rogers and I was like, hi, I was like, and then I felt like they all thought it was like a fixed thing. Like, here's, here's him, like, making it about him at the show. And I was like, I swear to God, I didn't know this was not exciting. She goes, what do you do? What do you do? And she goes, what inspires you when you wake up in the morning? I was like, I'm an entertainer and someone from the other end goes, here's a podcast. And then she goes, I'm going to do your podcast. We've yet to gather. We've yet to gather. I'm sorry. But I did DM her after and I was like, hi, we actually just had Michelle Obama on last week. It is like a real podcast. She goes, well, I said I would do it. And so I will. She responded. She responded. Oh my God. No, please, we have a whole team over there. Did you do her numbers? Did you hear her songs? I used to. Yes. I did. At karaoke. Ooh. That's a hard one. Sing it. I mean, they had to keep a pitch shift. Well, right. I love when I love when karaoke has the pitch shift. And when the song starts, it's like, yeah, yeah. Take me down like I'm a dominant baritone. Baritone. Only the fancy karaoke spots have that like all the ones in Vegas, let's say, have like, the DJs. Did they have an interpennel we went? I don't think that was the key. Not the ones that we went to. We kind of went to like a more of like a rustic CD one. All complimenter. Yeah. Yeah. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced, but these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their story is about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, and that is the Trojan horse, whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Hey, this is Ace Davenport and Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka The Bizz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip his head? What is the surprise one, man? Actually, you think it's the straight man, it's actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I would never set expectations for something like that. It seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept, you know. - Okay. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I was like, I was like, is that what you need? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben stiller, no. I think there's a lot of times in out of context, people don't get it, or even know what a circle is. Like, you're like, oh, it's so stupid. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested. Or just like, oh, I've got my iPad. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show. And he wants to be a guest on every episode. But he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. But oh, my God. There needs to be, oh, this is what we were saying earlier. There needs to be like a queer spelling bee. Where we just-- We want to do a spell on custom names. Okay, okay. And proper noun spelling bee. And then we-- And then I feel like, I feel like karaoke in the queer communal sense has to come back in a way that I think can be sort of for the people, for everybody. I used to love it. It was a great-- Just just gathering. Gathering, it was very communal, like you said. And yeah, the community is like, I so cliche. Like, community is what we need. But it is really the thing that's going to protect us from-- Yeah. The opposite of community, which is individualism and these corporations that are like, privatizing everything and making your, you know, airline tickets specific to you. Girl, I couldn't believe this. Because I-- This is so bad. I'm on Delta.com. And this is-- by the way, it's not just them. It's a lot of them. But I go on and I'm like, why is it three times what it was last year? Then I found out about AI pricing. Which is one of the biggest I don't think so many times I've ever heard. Because they know if you're a loyal customer, so they charge you more because they know you can pay for it. Which means if you finally want to use your points that you racked up for business when your job was flying you and you decide to scrounge together your personal money and take a trip to go see your mom, then suddenly you're paying what the corporation would be paying. Right. This is the thing about unchecked capitalism or whatever, it's like you are, it is coming for everyone in terms of like our, in our privileged positions, like our material conditions are being like kind of fucked with. It's like, oh, you're putting me in competition with myself for the free market and the free market. That's exactly what you're doing. And it even, I mean, that's what these corporations, they don't just exist, they don't exist to serve the people because if they did, then that would be the focus. It's like you said, AOC said, like that would be the focus. But if the focus is making more and more money, these corporations, they raise the prices on things. They make the products cheaper and less healthy and smaller, the packaging every single year, like you get less and less, like airlines seats are getting smaller. What's happening? People are getting better. You know, like it's getting smaller and smaller, more expensive and more expensive. And then what they do is they sell everything until there's nothing left to sell. And then they sell themselves to another larger corporation that buys them out and makes things even worse because that corporation, that bought that corporation, is less connected to the original mission of why they started that service in the first place. And then you get these private equities that just like buy up everything. And I know it's like a more horrific domino effect. But you're seeing the bigger picture of it all, which is great. I think people get sort of caught up in like the granular things which they can and they should. But then like it is all connected. You know? Anyway. But oh god, like it is such on like a raya, let's say. It is a meaty. I don't care how perfect the person is otherwise. I'm like if I see private equity, if I see. I know. Do people actually put that in their hands? They list. They probably do. It's what they do. They can find like minded people on that particular app. Exactly. Oh, this is just what. But like private equity agents on raya? Look, it's where they go. I guess they're feeling like. I guess for the same reason like entertainers might not feel like safe. Sure, sure. They should feel unsafe. It's because you want to know what? You're doing things that are harmful to people. They're gonna get fucked on raya because there's so many creative directors aka people with no job. Yeah, fuck. Not the way you want. So it's like, you know, it's actually kind of a wonder why. It's a wash. It's so fucked. I don't miss the apps at all. Oh. No. Yeah, no. What? It's not even that. It's just that while I was single and like needed them, I also hated them. Yeah. I was like, I was just like, they were. I don't know. It's talking about community. Those kill community too. They definitely do. Absolutely. No one meets anymore. Like, I don't know when the last time I, like, you know, and I missed this. Like, this is why I miss Baracuda and Boiler Room because I always hooked up with them. Always hooked up with them because you were like a little bit of like a. I know. I've had really. That's also a Boiler Room. But it's also that environment. Oh, I'm 100%. I mean, I would. I'm sure there's people that would be hookin' up more recently. Yeah. But I mean, like, if everybody's on their phone. During the event, during the show, then they're not like looking around, see who's in the corner. Right. It gets you less used to refining those skills too. It's like, there is still the art of the flirtation and the pick-up and the, you know, comfortability with self. And the unknown. Yeah. I remember like going out to the clubs in New York and like not knowing if I was gonna meet somebody and like have sex or get killed or whatever, you know, but like. Both? Let's go! Have sex get killed or both? Yeah! Title of that. Title of that. Wait, I. What I'm feeling in this moment. Yeah. is that I want to do the "Tray Parker" Matt Stone thing where they like renovated Casabonaida in Denver. Uh-huh. Oh yeah. I want to do. I want to like. It's not the Boiler Room necessarily, but I'm like, oh, I. I will probably open up like a gay, a queer space in our future. You think. You think it will be. What's that called? I definitely want to call it whatever it is a bar and grill. A queer bar and grill. I'm down. I think it has a great name. Queer bar and grill. Queer bar and grill. There aren't any right now. Julius, they make a burger. I mean, there are queer bars and grill, but nothing with that name. Yeah. Queer bar and grill is coming to the place where Barracuda once stood and. Well, maybe not there. That's. I mean, that. I don't know if it's real. We're the Dwayne Reads. I don't see the Dwayne Reads. 2018. 2018. So like what are you? What are you like? What is like the essence of that process for you that like was so was so wonderful. It was it was terrible I hated it was really really difficult and it was like one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. Yeah, because I mean originally I'm in a musical. Yes, yes, oh my God. It was like you know I think the hardest part for me was where it was like in this unstable There was in this position where we're doing previews like you're performing it every night for an audience So like you're doing it, but it's not locked in And then that's the moment where they can make changes during the preview process and so like there would be times where they were like Okay, you're on tonight. It's you know, you're on in 10 minutes remember that song that we wrote you like two weeks ago We're gonna try that so put that in and your monologue is out but change the first word and go And you're like, "Oh my God." - Oh yeah. - You know, and I was like very much like Beyonce, like on stage and I made it work somehow, but then the satisfaction of, which is honestly after the show closed, there were people like that were saying, we're gonna do the show and we wanna know like what you put into it or like what the original thought was in your character and we wanna honor something like you, not something like you, but like we wanna honor like the approach that you took and we want and it's important for us in our little high school in Nebraska to find a trans person to play this role. - That's amazing. - That would have never happened. - Yeah. - You know? - Fuck. - That's the coolest. - So then the legacy is what makes like, - Yeah. - It worth it, right? Because God, what you're describing does sound-- - It was hell. - It was like, "Oh my God, I hate this." - 'Cause do they even say it previews anymore? Like, "Hey, everyone." - No, they know. - And they charge the same price. - It's capitalism. They're just like, here it is. It's another version of the show. We can get away with making changes if we need to, but like you're basically seeing the show. So we're gonna charge the same price. And-- - I have paid upwards of certain amount of money to see shows and I'm like, "Oh, you guys just didn't run the lights, I guess." - Yeah. - Didn't think we should have like a lighting design. - It's just like-- - That song I just-- - We're just not able to hear it. Okay, so that song we won't hear because there was no sound. - If you stand up and clap at the end, their job is done, I guess. - Well, wouldn't be me after I've seen some of these things in previews. And honestly, then I get bummed out because I hear later like, "Oh, wow." Yeah, they really found it in previews. They really turned it around. It's like, "Well." - I don't wanna find it in previews. - Well, I paid the show price for something that was-- - Not really. - And they go see Titanic on Broadway because it's fun. - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, yeah, I loved Titanic this season. I loved Cats, the Jelica Balls. - Loved Lost Boys. - Yeah, Lost Boys, a Dark Day, and Cats were my favorite of the things that opened in this season. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, love. - I mean, it just feels wrong that you're not on Broadway. - I agree to me. - But there's a show that I really. - You don't have to say. - You can say. - There's a show that I-- - The two, the two. - The two people I've been enjoying here so much. - You can say. - You can say. - I really enjoyed doing workshops for a show. I don't know what the etiquette is. - Well, what was it, what did you like about it? - I did a workshop. - A workshop. - It was called, I can say what it was, it was Stage Mother, which was a movie in 2029, 20, 2019, 2020, you know, about a small town mom who goes and forms a friendship in a kinship with the drag queens and the drag club. And so I loved that show and the process and the people and I love you. (laughing) - Hopefully it'll come to Broadway if it does. I'm still here. - Yeah! - I would say to all the college kids out there too, if your school is offering you like cheap tickets. - Oh, go, go. See, thanks. - The one thing I regret the most about being in college in the city, yeah, and just like having the opportunity, like when I had, like when I was like a student had a time to rush shows, I never did that. One time I rushed next to normal and we won. And I got to see Alice Ripley and like all of them, like major and we sat, I call them the Lincoln seats problematically, but we sat like in that little section where we were just like sobbing, sobbing, sobbing back when I could cry. - Oh, you're pretty lucky, bro. - Do my Alice Ripley. ♪ My sake, I'm pharmacologist and I ♪ ♪ You don't know ♪ ♪ Why don't you just go ♪ (laughing) - Wow, you brought it back. Okay, anyway. - My wife was Alice in that moment. - YouTube videos still up. Remember when she would just post things on YouTube? - She was talking about her. - No, there's one where she goes. Two seconds long. This is back before, this was like original short form content. It's just her in a dark room, shitty MacBook camera, circa 2009, is all she says. I'm only happy when it rains. Done, and then another one where she goes, twist, twist, twist, twist, twist. The name of the game is the peppermint twist. (laughing) She just does, she whispers things peppermint twist. And you're like this woman is one of our best. - Cool, cool bananas. - I'm jealous because when I was in college and we, I went to Amda and our first, like the show that they gave us, the tickets to was 1776. - Oh. (laughing) - I was like, ♪ So beautiful ♪ - It's a great song, John, it was terrible. And we, I mean Brent Spiner was in it. I was like, oh my gosh, data from Star Trek. - Oh yeah. - That was great, but like, it was not a good-- - It didn't give. - It was, it didn't give. It wasn't like, oh, I feel good about anything. (laughing) I mean, if you feel good about the arts, feel good about like slavery, like nothing felt good. - Oh, nothing felt good. - My girlfriend, her name was LaRae from New Jersey. And she was like, you know, she was serving Mariah Carey, like Italian Mariah Carey. And she had like her like, for fake, for everything on and like, this is 1998. And I don't think she was used to her Broadway show. She, in the middle of, like, the most quiet portion of the thing. So it was like, fuck this shit. And she got up and walked out of the theater. And we were like, blu-ray, blu-ray. It was part of the way of the guest, bitch. - The answer is you can do that. - Yeah. And she did. - She said she did. - For a show like 1776, yes, you can. - Yes, you can. And you shall. - Fuck this shit. (laughing) - I was gonna do that. - Oh my god, I want to do that. - That's basically an up-and-himer. - Oh my god. - We saw up-and-himer once, but when I saw it, what was that theater? It was the one on second. - It's village cinemas. - Yeah, and so we were like, we were in an hour of the way through the bomb hadn't even gone off. - And we basically-- - And we basically drunk and yet another scene. - I was like, I can't watch this anymore. - Shit, we left a fish. - The film won an Academy Award. - For best picture. - I was like, we could be next door. Barby's over by now. Barby has ended the bomb hasn't even gone off. - It's a loud film. - It's a loud, a loud end you can hear it. - I was like, but people like this, what? - They like all sorts of shit. That's capitalism. - Japanese people were right. They were like, fuck this shit. (laughing) Did you all see cinemas? Did you love it? - Yeah, obviously. - Yeah. - I was blown away, not blown away, because by that time they were sort of predicting him, but I love that he's an Academy Award winner now. - Me too. - And be that that campaign just represents. Oh, you can just be someone that people root for and then you'll win an Oscar. - Yeah. Well, if you're good enough and you just, it's not about you and it's about the work and the performance, I think, is a note everyone, maybe you can take, be in service to the work. That's what impresses people. - Which is the antithesis of another Oscar campaign that was running at this time. - Correct, correct. - Which, you know, it's not a mistake the way these things shake out, especially when the season is long and people have a lot of time to think about it. I feel bad for the people in that campaign for Oscars now, 'cause if you come out in festivals, that could start as early as like what? June, July, August, September. - You need to wait for the end of almost a year. - Okay, everybody, we need to discuss a vacation that is not just a vacation, it's a statement. - Virgin Voyages, adults only, a child-free sanctuary at sea. You heard that, right? It's giving serenity. It's giving a very European summer. It's giving I deserve this. - They're sailing the Caribbean and the mid, obviously, but now they've added NYC, the West Coast and Alaska. So whether you want golden hour off, California, or full cinematic glacier core main character energy, they said, range. And the awards, at this point, it's less award-winning cruise line. And more, do we just engrave their name on that dang trophy? They've won so many travel awards, the ships might sweep the culture awards, sleigh of the sea, for instance. Excellence in poolside looks outstanding achievement in top deck behavior. For 20 eateries, epic entertainment, fitness classes, Wi-Fi, all included. 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Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. - We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. - Actually, can you help me shape this? - Okay, how about we flip this grab? Okay. - What is the surprise one, man? - Adam Scott, love. - This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. - I would never let go of that. - I have, I would never set expectations for something like that. - It sounds like if the universe allows for something like that to happen. - I am open to it. - I'm always going to accept, you know? - Bany McBride, fine. - Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with me. - I was like, smell this. - I was like, is that what we need? - Nope. - It's fragile masculinity. - Ben stiller, no. - I think there's a lot of times out of context, people don't get it, or even know what a circle is. - I think it's so stupid. - Everyone's so dumb, I'm excited for you. - And fake. - Right, fake and also not interested, or just like, oh, I've got my life, I don't care about your life. - And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. - Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - If you're a bookshelf and you're for you page, are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Pro's Society. The Weekly Podcast, that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. - I'm gonna have to look up this story. - Yeah, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. - From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. So like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. - Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. - Anyways, you said Mariah Carey, which is a huge tip for the, I don't think so, honey, that I prepared today, and we are at that moment. - Oh my god. - So I actually just wore my Mariah Carey 1995 daydream tour t-shirt for my last episode. And I have-- - It's gonna be young, you didn't actually go. - No, I didn't go to that one. My first concert was Mariah, that went 2000 at Radio City Music Hall. It was the rainbow tour. And that was really good stuff. But I have a Mariah thing. They've tried my girl again. - Oh, no, no, no, no. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey, it's time starts now. - I don't think so, honey, yet another year. They had the chance to put Mariah and the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. They did not do that. You guys are-- - Of course you're both. - You don't have any rights making the decisions. I think the voting body should be replaced. I think if you were to look at everyone in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame and Mariah is not there, it's a glaring omission. And the fact that you keep putting her up for it year after year after year. Of course she doesn't give a fuck anymore because she knows not to put any investment into you. But while the rest of us out here are gonna fight for her because she's like too unbothered to fight for herself, fuck you. I wanna see you in the streets. If you voted for someone else other than Mariah for the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. Also, get out of my face with its rock 'n' roll. No, that is very broad. It is the music hall of fame. It is the popular music hall of fame. Also, she has affected every single genre. You cannot listen to a modern female singer and not trace influence back to her. And yes, I am even talking about the curse of singers of today who did learn something from the way she writes songs because it is not just about her as a singer, it is about her as a songwriter and a holistic artist shame on you, Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. And I do think so, honey, Mariah forever. Well, you know, we love you. We love you, Mariah. That's one minute. - Yes. - Fuck this shit. - Fuck this shit. And Rock 'n' Roll comes from Blues. - Hundred percent. - Yep. I just think you can't listen to Mariah. And in the year of our Lord 2026, play her like this now. Go to her show and tell me you haven't been affected by every single word coming out of her mouth over your life. Like, people do not put the respect on her name and it's crazy to call her underrated in the modern day. - You know what? I agree. You're right. Like, she definitely deserves her flowers for sure. - But can I have Grammy Awards in her entire career, only five? - All three. - But can I ask if she were to be inducted, should she go to the ceremony? Should she exist? - Yes, because I think one of the things the first thing she should say is I think it took you guys long enough. But also, what I like about her is she's like this with the Grammys, too. She puts no-- - She doesn't care. - She puts no, she gives them no power. Like, they've played with her and toy with her and they do it to Ariana now, too. They treat Ariana as many Mariah. Ariana with only three Grammy wins. - No comment. - It's crazy. My sister has no comment. - Well, it was just a really refreshing time. We literally saw Titanic off Broadway on Grammy Sunday a few years ago. And then we went to her apartment to watch the Grammys. And it was just, she just kind of watched it like, I like a pure audience member being like, "Oh my God, she was just happy." She was just happy for the night, but I was like, I can't imagine what this is like for you to be like. Oh, look at my peer group celebrating each other and being celebrated, but like she let nothing slip. And I was just kind of like, just there for a friend, but I was like, there must be some complicated feelings here. - Well, yeah, because first of all, you know what I just pretty much, the, you remember for positions when she did the live live vocals in that hill with the dome, her vocals in that and there's a point where she goes over to the loop machine and loops beginning of position and performance positions. This girl is just so gifted. Like as a musician, the vocals are just so pristine. And again, songwriter, just like Mariah, like whiz in the booth, but for some reason, they don't want to give it to these girls. I think because they don't hold guitars. - You think so? - I think it's because they don't hold guitars and they don't sit behind pianos. - Someone give them a guitar and have them hold it. - I think it's, I think there's a little bit of a thing there. There's a little bit of a bias towards someone who it gives the perception of just singing, even if they hold it here again and again and again. Like there's some different way that they treat what they deem virtuosic musicians. And I think it has to do with the visual of them having an instrument, I really do. Huh, think about it. This will be Bowen Yang's, I don't think so, honey. Are you ready? - I'm ready. - It's about tea. His time starts now. - I don't think so, honey. When you put honey in your tea, you go, I want a little sweet note of flavor to this, right? But guess what, if there's a tea bag in there, how the fuck am I supposed to stir in mix in the honey without the string on the tea bag getting all wound up in my, let's say, spoon. Okay, I'm not talking to someone who's an expert who has her own kettle, who brings her on beautiful glass pot. - She'll have an answer for this. - You're supposed to, maybe there's a little steeper thing that you put the leaves in, you're loose leaf in, and there's a filter through that. - 30 seconds. - But then little shards of leave go in your tea, and then I just want like a nice unfussy tea experience where I'm not unwinding a helix of tea bags string from my spoon. So many bits and bobs. I just, I don't know if we'll ever figure it out. I would love for the corporations if they're of any fucking use, fuck this shit. They better figure out a way. - Five seconds. - To make my tea experience. - Not a damn puzzle. - I don't want to be solving a Rubik's cube. - And that's one minute. It shouldn't be a Rubik's cube tea. - I'm solving a Rubik's cube when I drink the thing. It shouldn't be like that. What do you have to say? - It's capitalism's fault. - Yes! - Listen, the companies were incentivized to have everyone having an individual cup of tea that they can charge you either for the bag or for the cup, but not for the pot. Usually you would always historically brew a pot of tea that you would pour into its service. - Yes! - And then you would have nothing in the water and you'd put in your condiments, your flavorings, your sugars, whatever you need in there, and there's nothing in there. Tea bags kind of change that. - Oh my god, you're so right, you know. - Wow, I would say go back to that if you can and you are right about infusers, the little balls that you put in. - They haven't really been updated that much because a T-bag took that idea and turned it into your own personal one. And so it got halted in time, but they did a lot less blends back in the day because they had a lot less access to like teas from all over the world to make some boutique blend. It was just like, here's some leaves, put it in a thing. And so they didn't, they weren't necessarily finely ground and so they didn't have to worry about them coming out of the ball. - The hole. - But now the mesh ones that are the more updated versions are definitely better. You won't get a lot of loose leave. - Do you have this at home? - I do have. - You were cooking just now. - You have a doctorate in T. - I can't notice the title of that. - You were for free, doctorate in T. - Darling. (laughing) - I better go get a real doctorate in T that. - Peppermint MD. - Hey! - Medical doctorous. - Do you have something? - Yes, you do. - You were, you were, you were, you were freezing away. - I don't think so honey ready to go. - I do, it's on my phone though. Is that okay? - It's fine. - I'm going to lose. - Here it's nonsense. It's ridiculous to see what a thing. - This is, this is the one. - So this is peps. I don't think so honey, her time starts now. - Okay, why is it okay to have a reputation for being dishonest and corrupt as a politician honey? Voters wake up. Today's corporate politicians are corrupt and greedy and take, on take bribes instead of protecting us. We have to shift away from celebrity and slogans and viral moments and support the platform not the personality honey. Just because the politician looks and acts and talks like you does not mean that they aren't taking corporate money. My dream is to elect some leaders who are black trans with bodies that break the mold and I believe that we will. But what we need is, what is, sorry. But what good is it if they don't support the same, if they keep continue to support the same policies as the last guy, I would rather vote for someone who understands me and will fight for me but doesn't look like me or vote for me. Someone who looks like me will just leave me to fend for myself. I'm not having any. If we build a diverse community, community of rooted in mutual protection and mutual aid where everybody understands and honors the material needs of one another, we can send someone to do the job and hold them accountable if they don't do it. So for this version of the Democrats, what I'm more focused on is taking corporate money from electoral politics. That's not going to save us, honey. I don't think so. Period. Also, bring back shoulder pants. Bring back shoulder pants. It's actually planned as day if you do the work to find out what people are about. Yeah, and they wanted to just kind of like go with the surface level of everything because people don't have the intentions, man. But you all heard, I don't know who it is in California, but somebody's running for office in California who was like actually a Republican but running under a Democratic ticket. Oh yeah, but don't you just go in and vote? Blue, no matter who. You're going to vote for this Republican and they will get in and do the same thing in California that they're doing in all the red states in the South right now like dismantling the voting rights. And so it has to be more that it can't just be skin folk is my skin folk because we know that that doesn't work. There's people that are on the take, people that are taking part, the corporations have gotten to them and corrupted and tainted them. And now we have to find people who are actually focused on the material needs of each other. And all of the other things identity is very important. As somebody's black and trans and fan, like it is really important for me. But again, that's because I want to have access to healthcare. Yes, yeah. It is like you are marginalized as far as being like a constituent goes, right? But in terms of someone who is seeking power, I think we can all benefit from understanding where power comes from and what people do with that power. And there are some people who brandish the power in a way that is like I was saying earlier, not what they're supposed to be doing. They are not supposed to be bragging about the fact that they have power. That's it. And openly talking about wanting to seek it and use it and sort of misuse it. Because that's what politics is all about these days. We're gonna fuck those people up. We're gonna take their voting. We're gonna buy me, get me 10 seats. What? Yeah. But I hope above all this, that catastrophe and the detriment of what's happening to voting rights and the Voting Rights Act in our country, but in the South, I hope that this inspires people to focus on abolishing the electoral college. That's what that-- 100% per person. Let's have a direct democracy. Let's try that. And also, let's stop talking about it and let's actually do it. Because you know how many times, I mean, whatever. We could get on a whole tangent about the disappointments that we've had to wait to make a change and do something different and they just didn't because they never intended to. But what I really am heartened by is the genuine, and this is another like social media, it's tough in this regard, but people are really talking about what the truth really is in terms of where the money comes from, what it's being used for. Like, and I just, I really, it's not like I'm excited for the breakdown of all the systems that we have because it means it's going to be mess, mess, mess, but it needs to happen. And it's happening. And I'm just really excited and heartened by so many of the election results that we see. I mean, it looks promising, but we have to just keep saying these things. It's worth another. And our politicians should be learning from us. We don't need our politicians to show us the way. We will show them the way. It's really about what we need as community. That's what they're supposed to go and do. That's it. Another thing too is just like, it's like you see Democrats pretend to listen to their constituents. It's like in those videos on Capitol Hill where you see the Republican running away from the constituent. It's like, you know, these, some of the Democrats that are pretending to listen, it's like, they might as well be running away. At least the fucking Republican is like, he's running away because he don't give a fuck, you know he doesn't care. You know she doesn't care. You know Susan Collins doesn't care. You don't care. It's like, that's what retail politics is. It's, I'm gonna get on your level. And I'm gonna be really good at pretending to promise you everything. That's what that is. That's acting. And then, you know, it's-- - It's theatrics. I discovered that when I went to DC to lobby on behalf of them not cutting, Congress not cutting funding for HIV services and medications and things like that. And it is just pure theatrics. It is what, it's just like transactional and theatrics in there. And how well they can act like something. Y'all, it's more theatrical than you think. That's why they call it Hollywood for other people. I dated a guy who was, who was like in, worked in news. And he goes to me, well you know, they don't do anything on purpose. He's like, you know they deadlock on purpose because if there's no drama on the hill, if there's no back and forth, then they don't have-- - They make it raise money. - There's no reason for them to be voted for. There's no issues for them to fight about and stand on. They don't have brands. - It's like this, it's like, okay, oh my gosh. You said you wanna napkin here, here you go. Here's your napkin, here's your napkin. - Go away. - Oh, you don't. Well, I guess you'll have to, can you give me more money and raise more money. We'll do it again next time. - For 40 years. Bitch, pick up the napkin and give it. - Yeah. - Fuck this shit. - Fuck this shit. - Fuck this shit. Wait, Loray. - Loray. - Shout out to Loray. - This is stuck with, this is sticky for me. - Loray. - Loray and her first. - Fuck this shit. - Fuck this shit. She stood up, she grabbed her purse and she was out. - Fuck this shit is also a front runner for talking love app. - Yeah, pretty good. - We absolutely love you. We're so like proud to that you've come on the show and that when we see you, you're always kicking ass and just evolving and just making everyone just feel a little bit more optimistic and informed and entertained. So you really are just one of the greats. - Fucking legend for all time. See you at the march. Love you. - See you at five, don't drink the tea. - And tune in to Netflix for "Survival of the Thickness" on a week on July, July, a July second. - We haven't even talked about Michelle Butchelle. - Anyway. - It's politics, it's tea, it's television, it's all of it. - All right, and we end the very episode with the song. ♪ And you don't remember this ♪ ♪ How you used to hold me ♪ - Mariah. - Okay, we'll start it. - Wait, what song is that though? - And you don't remember. - Oh, well, you went for a deep cut. - I know, I know, I went for a deep cut. 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