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Projecting the 12 CFB Playoff Teams with Danny Kanell, Plus the Fake 49ers Player

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Projecting the 12 CFB Playoff Teams with Danny Kanell, Plus the Fake 49ers Player

Fran from Chicks in the Office highlights Abercrombie’s fall lineup, recommending the Sloan Taylor pants and Dylan dress as essential, while advocating for a simple, comfortable denim and Henley look as her everyday fall staple. The episode shifts to a deep dive on College Football Playoff predictions, with Fran and Danny Cannell collaboratively analyzing teams across major conferences. They emphasize Oregon as a top contender due to its balanced roster, strong defense, and favorable schedule, despite concerns about losing coordinators. Indiana is viewed as a potential playoff underdog due to roster turnover and a challenging schedule, while USC gains traction with new head coach Lincoln Riley and improved depth. The hosts also assess SEC matchups, with Georgia, Texas, and LSU all seen as playoff contenders, citing schedule intensity and defensive weaknesses as key factors. They debate the impact of transfers, quarterback consistency under pressure, and the role of non-conference wins in playoff qualification. Ultimately, both agree that a nine-and-three team—likely Texas or Ohio State—could enter the playoff, with the selection committee’s human bias toward compelling stories potentially influencing outcomes. The conversation underscores the unpredictability of college football, driven by roster changes, coaching adjustments, and extreme schedule challenges. The episode concludes with a reminder of DraftKings Game Day on September 2nd, featuring exclusive deals and nationwide app access for sports fans.

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Hey, we're still a listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcast and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music. It's Fran from Chicks in the office. The weather is getting cooler and Abercrombie's fall drop has everything I need for the season. The best-selling A&F Sloan Taylor pant is a closet staple for me. I'm always wearing it to work events. Happy hour. Anytime I want to be a bit more dressed up. And the viral Dylan dress is easy, one-and-done perfection. But my fall uniform will always be denim pair with a Henley sweater, a bra-free top. It's comfortable, effortless, it just never fails. Find your fall capsule at Abercrombie, shop in the app online and in stores. The Rhymer Solo Show is presented by DraftKings. Danny Cannell and I go through and try to put together a 12 team playoff field breaking down the power conferences and some transfer portal talk at the end. 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The Nationwide based on sports book predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability varies by state. College football season, we are in it. Week 0, a huge win by Florida State. Probably won't spend a ton of time on that, but great time to have a Tallahassee legend. One of the all-time great standing canal. Good friend of the program. Cover 3, Syria 6M with Roy Phil Pot and Brian Kelly joining him weekly this season. What's up, Danny? What's up, man? Yeah, thanks for not spending too much time on the Florida State win. First to New Mexico State, but a win isn't what I kind of like. I don't like New Mexico State's quarterback. I did too. He was like, he was crafty and a little shifty. I'm going to the SMU game Monday night. So I'll actually be there. Rare games just go as a fan, no work, because it's Labor Day Monday. I'll be up there, bringing my two younger daughters, Courtney's going. She was saying this is the first time we've ever been to a game together. She doesn't know what she's getting into. So we'll see. It's a great atmosphere. I'm from Florida State. College football is better when Florida State is really good, but we'll see. We're actually for every appearance that you have on the show this season, we've decided to buy you Castelano's hoodie. So from his website, I was looking at it this week, still up, still active, the shirts still available. I'm sure. I think every time you come on, we'll get you the gray one. Perfect. Do you have the short sleeve hoodie? I like that one. Short sleeve hoodie. We can work on it. So the exercise here is to try to put together a 12 team playoff field. It's always been the hardest sport because it turned over, and now I think it's never been harder, just the assumptions that you're sitting there. And I've been joking with people like every single time you read a team preview, the rounding up on every single transfer is like, hey, this transfer is going to be awesome. And this fills the need and all this different stuff. So let's start in the big 10 because it feels like at least on paper, the three teams, you know, how state, Indiana, Oregon are kind of everybody's favorites. Other people are picking Texas Notre Dame, maybe even Georgia, and all that kind of stuff. But like I would understand, if somebody said, hey, I think right now on paper, those three teams are better than any top teams in the other conferences. I'd have a hard time arguing it. So go through the big 10 for me, and we'll kind of throw it back and forth here. So I've got in the big 10 Oregon over Ohio states in the big 10 title game with Oregon, avenging their regular season loss because they play in Columbus, right? In the regular season. I have that as Oregon's only loss on the schedule. But I have them beating them in a rematch in Indianapolis in the big 10 title game. So I've got Oregon versus Ohio state. Okay, so that's big 10 title game or not. So I am, that was probably, so when I did my bracket, I cannot help myself because I don't like watching chalk. I've actually got two surprise, three surprises, two teams that I have in and one team that I have out. And I know everybody's like, be careful, doubting Kirk's dignity, like you better watch out for it, you know, be careful, doubting, you know, Indiana Hoosers. I think they're really good. I think there are two ways they can be out. Obviously, they're nine and three. I think they're out, which I don't think is without, you know, out of the realm of possibility. The other thing I think they have to be careful with is if they're 10 and two, there are other teams that are going to be in this playoff conversation that I think you could possibly see a nine and three team jump a 10 and two team. Kirk's saying that he's been so vocal about not playing those, you know, three non-conference cupcakes. Their schedule is the toughest that's been in his tenure. And I think there's still a lot that they have to replace. Not to mention the number one overall pick in Heisman Trophy winner who did bail them out in a couple games in big spots that I just don't know if I have confidence in whether it's in Josh Hoover or the whole Indiana program, that they'll just be right back up there. I think it's a little bit of a setback year for Indiana. So I actually have them missing the playoffs in my bracket. But if you said, you know what, how dare you do that? I'd be totally fine with it. Like if we're building a bracket together, you said Indiana's got to be in there. I would totally understand that. I just think there might be a little bit of a regression from this team. Yeah, look, I understand it because it's just, it's hard to imagine like, hey, you're just going to go back to back and have that same kind of season. And it frustrates me a little bit when people talk about teams and say, oh, they're going to have their slip up as if 11 and more and it's bad. Like it's just people, people act like 12 and 0 for these top teams is a certainty. And I just don't like when people talk about teams being like, I mean, they're going to have their slip up. The transfer portal class is kind of loaded, though. Like I like Hoover right now better than I like Mendoza a year ago. I really like Hoover. They added two more stud receivers. They bringing in turbo richer at the running back from BC. They already had a pretty good offensive line, but they added another one from Wisconsin. They're missing some defensive line and stuff. So they loaded up on depth there. They brought in this corner from the SCS who everybody said was like the best player in the SCS. So I think they're a valuation in what they've done the last two years. You kind of have to give them the benefit of the doubt. And the fact that apparently whatever dignity does when he brings these guys in there, like they just look like the smartest football team. So I think Indiana has to be in there. Totally fine with that. Totally get why you would say that too. So and I think they'll start off 6 and 0 and where, you know, Joshua probably puts up big numbers. I do think the stretch when they have a Ohio State at home at Michigan, USC and Washington. I think people are sleeping a little bit on Washington. I think Washington will be in the playoff conversation now. They finish out at Indiana or Indiana at Oregon. So I don't think they I don't think they ultimately make it, but I think they could beat Indiana as well coached as Indiana is the one thing that always gives well coach teams that are so disciplined or mobile quarterbacks in tomorrow. Williams is a very, very dangerous liability. Now clearly, Indiana is a better team. This kind of goes back to like just chalk and putting things down and just yep, they're going to go win that game. Seattle's a tough place to play. I think Seattle, I think Washington's going to be a really good team. It's across the country. I just think Indiana has several more tests this year than even they've had in the last couple of years on their schedule where they could falter, but I'm totally okay if we keep Indiana there. Yeah, the test thing is I mean, no test two years ago and then failed both tests. Then last year to see what they do against Ohio State and just, you know, I was reading through that again and it's like, hey, they went for the field goal in fourth and one. I was like, well, they went for the they went for the field goal because they didn't like running at Indiana's defensive line. Like Ryan Day and that group made a decision being like, we don't think our guys are going to win that one yard. And that was something that was playing out in that game and it's it's like, okay, so there's that physicality. And then they put it on Oregon in a way where you're like, oh my god, you know, like what they think this is getting ugly. And then Miami, you know, it was obviously Miami has a chance to even pull that thing off on the last throw with Beck, but Indiana certainly felt like the better football team for three hours. So I know a lot of those pieces are gone. They lose eight players of the NFL draft, which is maybe the craziest thing you'll see about any like Indiana. Oh my god. how are they going to do it again? The Hoosiers lost eight players to the NFL draft. I didn't ever expect to say something like that. When you look at those three teams and you're going with Oregon, why Oregon over the other two? - I feel like Oregon is where Clemson was before they broke through. Like they were kind of knocking on the door. And remember Clemson was a thing. Remember it was like, oh, they're going to Clemson. Now their issue was they were falling against bad teams, like some kind of surprise upsets and not, you know, not being able to finish games. Oregon is a position where they've been really good through the regular season. They've gotten the part that they've had a couple ugly losses in the playoffs. I think they're the best roster top to bottom. And it's way more than Justante Moore. I think the defensive line is one of the best defensive lines in the country. I get probably the biggest concern for me is losing both coordinators. But for Tosh Loupoy on the defensive side of the ball, losing your defensive coordinator, Dan landing is a defensive guy. Like I feel like they'll be fine. And then on the offensive side of the ball, I think Will Stein was a really good play caller. They're staying in house with true marriageer. They're all offensive coordinator. But he's going to have weapons galore. We already saw what DeCorean Moore could do last year as a true freshman. Evan Stewart with Dan landing told us he had, you know, his best off season so far. Former five star, I think he could absolutely pop. They've got depth. I just think I think it's their time. I think it's that time that they break through. The schedule is probably one of the more favorable ones. Out of all the teams in the top 10, so I think they should be pretty healthy. So yeah, and I'm a bleep. I liked Auntie Moore a ton. I think he does take that next step forward. In some of their bigger games, kind of vanish a little bit. Even I went and watched him in person against Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl. Started off, you're like, oh, this is the guy I want to see. He kind of came back to Earth a little bit. They didn't need him as much because they ended up shutting out Texas Tech. Then of course, he starts off the Indiana game tough with the pick six to D'Angelo Ponds. I think he's going to make big strides forward. So yeah, I've got the war. I've got the ducks of sort of, this is sort of their breakthrough year for Dan Land. They feel like they've been knocking on the door. They just kind of need to break through it. Loaded at receiver, there's like three other younger recruits that are all top guys too that we're not even talking about between McLean and Stewart and Moore. You could make some issues with the tackle situation, like somebody's going to have to pop with the guys that they brought in. The interior's pretty good. Linebackers, edge guys, tackles, feels like they're fine. They bring in that safety from Minnesota that everybody's raving about in every single preview that I read about. I'm kind of with you on that. I picked Oregon two years ago and I get into the habit too of trying to figure out a way to be a little bit different with the predictions of this stuff. And there's just times that they've lined up against the big boys the last couple of years where it's kind of horrifying. You know, whether it's the Ohio State game from two years ago, you're like, how the hell did you guys beat this team earlier in the year, where I think one of the best things about that Ohio State game when they lost at Eugene was like you felt so much better about Ohio State's quarterback because you were kind of like, all right, well, even though they lost here. And then they go on to win the whole thing. So look, I'm with you. I'm picking Oregon. I'm picking Oregon to be in the title game on top of everything else. So we'll see whether or not I pick him to win a national championship for a fourth one from four different teams of the big 10. But the running backs are great. I like Moore a lot too. I think the coordinator thing is probably more problematic on the Will Stein part of it than Tosh being a cow. But you know, these teams, the all three of these teams are loaded and that brings us to Ohio State because they had 14 players start all, well, let me, let me say that again. Nine of their defensive players, they had such continuity on defense. Nine of the guys that started all 14 games from a mark on on defense. But you go through all the recruiting stuff. You're like, oh, that guy was a five star edge guy. I can like who's he? I'm like, he's he's second in the depth chart right now. Like I was looking at their depth chart this morning and there's these top recruits from two classes ago. And I'm like, none of these guys are even starters yet. Like this is ridiculous. So part of it's a transfer part of it. Ohio State's always going to do well in the portal. And I just like saying, I think at one stretch last year, not only did I think he was going to win the Heisman, I thought he was playing like the best. Now, I brought up something with Stanford Steve and then somebody hit me up afterwards and I'm going to ask you this. It's like Saiyan's completion percentage is nuts and the yards per attempt is actually pretty good. But they were like, look, there's a little bit more and there was Saiyan words that depth the target thing and it never really felt like they let him be unleashed because after the Texas game, they just destroyed everybody. They had a really easy stretch for their schedule. Do you think Saiyan is like, clearly there's another level to him, but do you think he's actually capable of looking like the best quarterback in college football this year? - I wouldn't predict it. He's got to prove it. So I thought he was close to perfect like through most of the season. But he also, I think he was sacked 11 times over the first 12 games and then he was sacked 12 times in the next two games and the next two losses. Like his, like he was executing to perfection, but everything was so clean. It was like, and I want to see how a quarterback plays when he's under duress, when he's getting more pressure and it wasn't like he cost them the game versus Indiana. It wasn't on him. It wasn't like it cost him the games against Miami when they lost in the playoffs, but he was not a difference maker in those games. That to me is where he'll have to step up and I think Texas is a great challenge for him because that one will be one where I don't think it'll be like last year's game. What was it 14 to seven? And both teams were like protecting their young QBs, making their first start. I think he's gonna have to cut it loose a little bit. My thing is, how does he handle the pressure? And both types of pressure. One, the pressure that comes with the Iowa State quarterback, but after you've dealt with adversity, people are kind of looking at him. And I want to see how he handles the pressure on the field when he is facing those more elite defenses. So I thought like he, like no complaints about Julian Sam, but I do think he has to take a step up in that next level when he's getting more pressure in his face 'cause I do think they're gonna face some tougher defenses including that one and Austin week two. - Yeah, it doesn't matter, but Texas outgained him, 336 to 203 last year. So it wasn't like, you know, both quarterbacks were very limited in that game. You end up having the interception that kind of turns the entire tide of the thing. I didn't necessarily feel like because of the yardage part of it, that the wrong team won, but it was just a slugfest where it was even more of a slugfest, not just because of the defensive talent because it was pretty clear, both play college were like, we're gonna take it easy on our guy. There's a saying number. Go ahead. - I was gonna, I want, like I always look for who do you think has, you know, find some holes in this team. And you mentioned all the losses on defense. That is gonna be unbelievable to fill in. So I thought there's a chance that Ohio State could be nine and three 'cause their schedule is probably one of the toughest in the country. But then you go look in the last time they didn't have nine wins was 2011, you know, and that was sort of an anomaly. Like they churn out double digit win season. So when is it gonna come? You can look really foolish trying to predict that. I also think they could be better on the offensive side of the ball and be just as good as they were last year but have a worse record. Like there is a, like watch out for the Iowa game. That one's a sleepy. I had a lot of Ohio State fans making fun of me 'cause I included that as part of like the five games that are really tough for Ohio State. Playing on the road there, Phil Parker is a great defensive coordinator. I think that's a tricky game on the road at Indiana, at USC. I mean their schedule is absolutely brutal. I think they could make the playoffs at nine and three. I do think we're gonna see a nine and three team in the playoffs this year. Texas and Ohio State are probably the two teams I think are the most likely to be that candidate. But even when I say that, Ohio State fans are like, oh, there's no chance we're gonna be nine and three and it is impossible when you look at the history of success. But these schedules are absolutely brutal and I think all those teams are improved that they're playing against. Ohio State schedule is legitimately tough. I don't know how many more teams like this are gonna play Texas or I don't know how many times Texas is gonna play at Ohio State. Now with the nine conference games across the board for both of the big conferences in SCC and Big 10. It sucks and it used to be like one of those arguing things where you were like, well, why am I arguing? Like if this team never plays anybody at a conference, this team, it's kind of the Texas argument it bit last year. So if we had just not played Ohio State and decided to play, you know, whoever writes then we're in the playoff. And so it's hard as an AD and a staff to go, there's value in this until you see the committee try to look at things a little bit more open-minded. And this isn't an argument that Texas ultimately like should have been in the playoff. I was fine with how it all played out last year even though the Notre Dame Miami thing just felt like a shitty situation really more than it was like I was infatically in favor of one team over the other. So I'm with you on Ohio State part of this. There's a number here on San and this may be a little unfair. But if you look at some of the quarterback stuff that happens and what he's done against powerful rank teams last year as opposed to the unranked teams, like it's pretty alarming. Like his QBR against rank teams, you two and two, a 59.2 QBR against unranked power four teams, a 92 QBR, the numbers there tell you there's a significant drop off. But you know what? There's a lot of guys that like eat statistically against the eight unranked P four teams and then have, so he is not alone on that. That's not something like, oh, he's saying that's to play the big boys, he's a completely different guy. Well, the stats will tell you that, but the stats will also tell you about the same story with so many of these other top quarterbacks. So I don't want to be like entirely unfair even though that drop-off scene. significant. But I think that's the that's the that's the bar that you have to meet as Ohio State quarterback because they could be they could have an incredible season. But if he's two and two against some of these top opponents, they're going to fall short of their expectation, which is a national championship team. Like very clearly, he's capable of leading this team to really good wins, but can he lead him to a national championship? That's what I was talking about like under pressure under duress against those better defenses. He starts to prove it to me that he can step up in those in those games. It's totally fair. Indiana though, I'm with you. I didn't leave that game going, oh, saying it's just not the guy. I would say to your point on like surviving some of these plays and having to figure out a way to make it happen. There was some stuff against Miami where you're like, okay, so now that this whole thing's disrupted, then there's no chance of any like putting the cape on like some of the other guys that you expect that you know are at this level in Heisman favorites and potentially a national championship. You mentioned what about USC? So I have USC in my playoff. Yeah, so I'm bullish on USC. I had Michigan too, but that's a wild card. So I had totally okay. If we leave them out, but I have USC as a playoff team. I think Lincoln Riley came into I talked to him at big 10 media days. He had sort of a confidence about him. Asked him about it. He this was a little swagger. Did he have? Yeah, a little swagger. Yeah, he had more confidence that we've seen out of him being there the last few years. And he was talking about how the continuity across the board, like they just moved into a new practice facility. They have a new athletic director, like their stability. He's like the amount of returning players that they've got on the team. And that was before he lost his starting center. So that's a piece that's questioned after that. But I think Jade. My Ava. So my Ava was my Heisman pick coming into the season because I think he's outstanding. Really went over back. I love it. Yeah, I love him. They're young pieces, which I mean, I get a little bit of a cheat code now because I saw him play in their first game. But Mark Bowman, the five-star tight end is supposed to be, you know, people are comparing him to potentially to a Brock powers. The other kid, the freshman Trent Mosley, who had a 118 and a touchdown in their first game, Granite San Jose State. He popped. They've got depth at running back. We already knew that was going to be a position of strength. And the question mark, I would have like the defensive side of the ball. Lincoln Riley teams have always, let's say they've not been the most physical on the defensive side of the ball. I think the Gary Patterson higher defensive coordinator was big just from somebody who kind of does have that edge. He's got a lot of experience. I think their defense is probably better than they're going to get credit for. Even in the game against San Jose State, Lincoln Riley made it clear. Those were third stringers that gave up 23 points in the fourth quarter. I thought it was exactly the performance you would want. You know, some of their tougher games are at home in the Coliseum, where I do think it'll be crowded. Those games, even though it wasn't, I just humidity was a was an issue out here. Unreal humidity. Yeah. But even that, I mean, I don't know. Well, we ever really thinking that they were going to be sold out even if it's 70 degrees in sunny minutes. That's the crowd that they heart. Like, why do we still make this a thing? It is what they are. It's kind of like Miami with hurricanes. It'll be sold out when they play against Ohio State, when they play against Oregon at home. Like if we know that. So like, that's that is what they are. But I think they're a really good football team. And I think Jade Milva is this pretty special quarterback. You mentioned Michigan quick and I got to keep it moving here because it's going to turn to a big 10 preview. I just got I have to see it with Underwood. I've got to see him on the games before I would have any. I love winning him. I love what they've done with the staff. We expect that they're going to just be a brutal out. They're going to be a tough team to play. But Underwood was underwhelming like in a in a big way. So I like them is because he was 11 touchdown nine. Interceptions. He was bad. If he just gets to average and they had nine wins on the season. If they get to adequate quarterback play, which I think Jason Beck is a really good playcarl, who you utilize his legs some more. That is a big step of faith, though, for me to say that Bryce Underwood is going to take that step. He's got to prove it first. 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Who's winning the SEC? I have. Oh, you like this one. I mean, it's a matchup we've seen before. I've got Georgia over Alabama, yet another matchup. I think they both have pretty favorable draws in the SEC. I'm. I love the Keelan Russell move to go ahead and go with the young player over Austin Mack. I think he could be really, really special with the turnover and offensive line to go with the freshman QB like he must be and considering that the other guy's been, you know, the board's driver. Yeah, like this. It must be really impressive from Keel. I don't. I think he's all, I mean, clearly he's a runner. I mean, if you see what he did in this spring game, I think that element probably could play into this because if the offensive line is struggling, I think Keelan Russell could be a mix of Jalen Monroe and Ty Simpson. Like, and I think Kalen DeBoer will have an absolute field day work with somebody like that. I think their defense is going to be good. That's another rematch that I've got. I've got Georgia losing in the regular season at Alabama and then getting the best of them in a rematch in the SEC title. All right. So Bama's offensive line. I am a little worried about and then again, that's probably why Keelan make it the notary might just be that talented. The receiver part of it, I think it's going to be fine. I don't know why Ryan Williams, Ryan Coleman Williams, why he turned into what he did. I mean, he ended up having of like high volume receivers. He had the worst drop rate of anyone and it also looked like it was the traffic stuff where it's like a something going on with you now like when you're around this because, you know, anybody that would say like, he's no one's Jeremiah Smith, right. But the fact that he was even in the conversation because of those big plays, the Georgia game and all that kind of stuff, it's like, you know, you have somebody like that, especially for a young quarterback. So I don't know what to make of that. I just can't imagine that all of a sudden like the freshman year was a fluke thing and he's just shot, but this drop rate thing is significant. And, you know, I don't know. I guess the offensive line part of it for Alabama knowing that last year, the reason why they ended up getting destroyed in the playoff and we could see it coming in a way because you just go, all right, well, like Ty Simpson, I wasn't even upset with anything with him. And like this guy is, he has no chance. And it's kind of funny because it bookend perfectly with the Florida state game, whereas like he's getting his ass handed to him out there. They have no chance whatsoever. Alabama cannot run the football. And so it's Ty Simpson trying to figure out all the stuff out with a really nice receiving group. So I guess it's just better. I mean, you're okay with that. I think it will be better. Well, it has to be better. Right. It has to be better. I mean, they were atrocious running the football. And I do think having a mobile quarterback will make a huge difference. I do. And a lot of me when we have Alabama, like I know this SEC, the gauntlet is there and it's real. And it's the help. I think their draw is pretty easy. And that includes Florida state who, I mean, that's a revenge game. There'll be a multiple, you know, probably two touchdown favorites in that game. I had them. And then so they have Georgia at home, which again, that could be a loss, but I had them beating that one at Tennessee. They're going to be playing against phase on brand and a true freshman quarterback. Like I think they should be able to go into Tennessee and get that win. Texas A&M, probably one of their toughest opponents, but it is at home. I have them losing at LSU as one of their losses. But other than that, that was their only blemish I had for them. Not foolish because I think there's going to, I mean, there's going to be some carnage in the SEC. But I still think Alabama, I think they're a team that's going to be just fine. I'm going to pick Texas. And it has a lot to do with the second half for arch because if you go from November 1st on, best QBR and college football, he's somebody else that you could point out to and go, all right, he ate against some of these other teams, certainly early on to the 10 touchdowns against San Jose and Sam Houston, all that kind of stuff. I think the tape backs up that he became a different quarterback. It's another team that you put down on the offensive line part of it. Receiver, I'm good, running back, I'm good, defense, I'm good. I think they have a couple guys on that defense that are like my favorite players in all the college football. And even with that schedule, I know it's brutal. It's brutal. There's usually a couple stretches here for some of these SEC teams where you look at like three teams in a month. Like, oh, Miss has a stretch for you to go, Jesus. Like, that's a brutal, brutal four weeks where you're thrilled to just be playing like Mizzou and no offense to Missouri. But I like your Oregon point. I kind of feel like it has to come together this season for Texas. And I wish there was more insightful things to say about it, but it's just kind of the way it feels. And I don't want to pick Georgia again. So there you go. So I have Texas in the playoffs, I have them going deeper than an SEC team, but I don't have an SEC title game because of that schedule. Also, I do think there was something I'm a believer in arch, but they were a little inconsistent last year. They just feel like there's a majority thing where they're kind of new to this territory of handling the success that they've got. I think Oklahoma's going to be where that's a rivalry game. Now they've had some success in it recently, but I think that's still a really tricky game for them. At LSU, another tricky one, at TechSANM, rivalry game, having to go to college station. So I don't have an SEC title game, but I do, I have them beating Ohio State, and I think they'll be in pretty safely. There's been some rumblings. I don't know if you've seen some of the reports about stuff going on in the locker room. There was a freshman's dad who was on there saying he was going to expose him. Arch, you know, there's been rumblings that he hasn't been great at practice. I'm not even worried about that. I think that comes with the fact that your Texas rumours start this world. They get really noisy. I think they'll be fine. I just think to me, it was more about the schedule being a little bit harder within conference than George and Alabama, but I have them in the playoffs. First six games for Arch, he was 78th in QBR at College Football. Last six, he was third in FBS. I think people on it start to give up play calling. I mean, it was such panic. There were articles. He was going to be a bust. I'm happy for him. I actually feel way better about him because he played poorly and because they struggled. I feel better about his like mental fortitude and be able to handle some adversity. So how many SEC teams do you have in? Those are my three. That's it. Bama. Bama, Georgia and Texas. Where are you with late, the lane train down there in Baton Rouge? I got to see it. Now, that's one for me where the roster, it's hard to find many weaknesses. You know, you spend all this money. You bring in lane, but in a sport that requires like culture and continuity. And I know Lane did that and he was the portal king at Ole Miss and he was able to bring it there. I'm very, very curious to see how this thing unfolds. Now, I think they could, they could be the national champion. I also think they could be seven and five. Like if they fall short and they have a couple losses early, does the, do the guys start showing up for a check, which I've seen in the NFL when you start to become more professionals. And there's a big question mark for me at Sam Levitt. Not only and it's not just the Liz Frank and coming back from that injury and he misses an entire spring. He like, he was a 61% passer in the big 12th. Now, he's got to play in the SEC in a system that requires requires you to be very accurate. Get rid of the football. He's also athletic and his athleticism is going to play a part in what Lane wants to do and he'll have better talent around him. But I'm not sold on Sam Levitt is just going to go out there and light up the SEC. So I, I think he could have some bumps and bruises on the way that possibly could cost them a game or two. That's fair. He lit up the big 12 historically. Like if you go through his big 12 numbers and then kind of like some of the other guys, but you take them out of the big 12, there was a drop off in production. And that number was rather significant as well. The LSU offense, like going through those numbers, you can ask your co-host Brian Kelly about this. Like the fact that they were, they couldn't run the football in 24. You're like, all right, they'll figure it out. And it was even worse. I mean, they were in the hundreds in some of these categories offensively last season. And you just go, how could you possibly the receivers are going to be fine? I don't know what the hell's going on with the running backs because they brought in some studs and it hasn't necessarily happened. The offensive line looks like it's going to be better. They load up on transfers. They're going to apparently grab a couple NFL guys or try to pull that off too, which I think is gross. But I have LSU in the playoff over Bama. So there you go. Everything you said is totally fair. Anyone else, like what do you do with A&M? Because A&M, I think the skill guys were good. I think the lines were good. I kind of just make an assumption with Elko and everything like defensively. They're going to be fine. The Marcel Reed thing, I thought his high has been momentum last year was one of the most misguided campaigns just because it was the undefeated SEC ranked team. Hey, who's the quarterback? Let's do this. And he's a lot of fun. But there's some red zone stuff in there that I don't like. And if you go catchable ball of the 16 quarterbacks that are like the guys in the SEC, he threw the 15th most catchable ball out of the 16 quarterbacks that registered, which is exactly what I saw every Saturday. Go back and watch the South Carolina game and you'll get the full Marcel Reed experience. Because in the first half, he looked like one of the worst quarterbacks in all of college football to the second half where he looked like he could be the best quarterback at college football. It had to mean for him and it's all about consistency. A&M, I do think they were a little bit of, do you like the team or do you like the schedule and probably like the schedule last season? Yeah. More than you like the team. This year, it's a different story. It isn't much tougher schedule within the SEC conference games that they have to play. So I'm like, I don't think there's going to be a mega drop off, but I had them outside the playoffs. It just, to me, it was about some of the road games they've got in conference. I think they could suffer a little bit that and not to mention Colin Klein, who was like the perfect coordinator for Marcel Reed, similar style of quarterback. He's gone. They stay in house with Holman Wiggins. So I get that there shouldn't be too much change over, but I do wonder how much that could impact the offensive side of the ball. I think we have to mention Ole Miss, even with that schedule. Here's my favorite stat. I think I found out the quarterbacks. Chameless, third and long, he's like the best. Quarterbacks, third and long, what do you do in this sport? I'm talking college because there's just so many schools. Once it's third and seventh, it's like, all right, we're screwed. And Trinidad Chameless has the best numbers of anyone returning on that stat. It feels like an afterthought after last year's run. Maybe it's just because post lane and everything and the momentum and all that storyline. People have kind of turned the page on them of being a playoff contender. I would love for them to be, I would love to them to be better than LSU. I mean, just from the storyline approach, they're kind of, they still did spend the second most in the SEC, which is kind of crazy. They're not going down without a fight, especially in the spending war. The schedule's tougher. Again, a lot of this has to do with schedule. I think Trinidad Chameless might be one of the best quarterbacks in the country. I just, I don't know if I think they're eight and four, you know, probably around that territory. I just don't view them as being able to run it back with the amount of change over. And they kind of were that perfect storm last year. You kind of galvanized the team that did stay behind. And I know some players that threw lane under the bus or even trying to go back and play with them now, which is kind of wild. But yeah, I have to see it again with Ole Miss. I think Trinidad Chameless would be really good. The defense, I think, could be take a step back. So I'm just not to believe it. They're going to run it back. Real quick on Oklahoma. Man, I, mature for me as a wild card. You know, I, he's, his jacked up photos are great. I thought last year, he was incredibly inconsistent. How much was it due to his thumb and the injury? And that would absolutely impact not only. He was awesome. He was awesome at times. Like he was really good. I think if it works for Oklahoma, he kind of has a t-bow like season where he's running for close to eight or 900 yards. And they're using him to bulldoze guys. And he's the emotional leader that the teammate loves. They've got a great defense. Obviously, that's going to be a big part of any Brent Vennible's team. And they feel really good about that aspect. There are another one that has question marks. Can they run the football? I think they'll be better running the football. But I don't know. I just, I want to see Matier keep it together. Stay healthy and be more consistent over 12 games. I also think that again, I had Michigan in the playoffs in my bracket. So you kind of know where I felt with that game. I think that's a, that game will probably determine it too. Like or we believe in a local home or not. They absolutely could win that game. But I did have Michigan win in that one. All right. The ACC, you have to have, I mean, I kind of hate doing this in Notre Dame now, but every single preview is doing the same thing now too. We're just putting Notre Dame in the ACC because I really, I didn't know that let's go. Let's get him in there. Then I get some more ammo. Come on. How many of how many ACC teams are we getting in? Let's start first with Notre Dame, though. You have him in. I assume, right? I do. I with Texas sack Notre Dame and Miami. They're like the three teams that look really good. And like in their schedule, it's like, find the losses. You have, you have to like talk yourself into like a four interception performance from your quarterback. I feel like they don't have a chance. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen. But I do have I do have Notre Dame in. I have them slipping up once. I have an 11 and one. I think 10 and two who would listen to BYU or SMU. I have lose to Miami. Miami. I have the only undefeated in the college ball playoff as Miami. I have Miami going to South Bend, which is even a stretch. I think BYU is a tricky out for Notre Dame, but I think they can kind of bully him. I do wonder. He did lose two guys to the first round in the backfield. That is a pretty good asset. But Marcus Freeman may be one of my favorite coaches. They have great culture schedules there. I don't see I mean, I looked for ways to try to say, how can they not get it done? And it's just hard to find it. So I have men as a one lost team. And then I have Miami is the only team from the ACCN. Car was unbelievable against the blitz last year. He was blitzed on 37% of his dropbacks, which is the most of any quarterback. And I think maybe the P4 and he was 14 to on touchdown interception splits on that. Now you could also argue after the first two weeks, like bad teams that have no chance are going to blitz you and that it's much easier dealing with those blitz. But I've seen some car numbers. You split it up. You're like, well, hey, first four weeks, it's this. It's like, well, the first two weeks, the guy's in play before he's at Miami. And he's against Texas A&M. And honestly, the comeback to lose to Miami week one, I remember you even talking about it specifically. It's like, hey, there's some stuff in there and that second half from this kid. So I think he's That's good. All right. No, he's not the dual threat thing that we all want. Maybe that's part of his NFL breakdown and all that kind of stuff, but as far as college football's concerned, I just don't see how this team is not in the playoffs. And I think the same is to be said about Miami. I'm right there with you. Like I like Mensa better than Beck. You go through their transfer portal stuff. You're like if they're not getting it wrong, they're not losing any momentum, despite losing the national championship game, I don't know where that loss is. I don't, I mean, maybe it's a Notre Dame. That's fine. And then it won't matter. Possibly, you know, like they play Clemson, right? At Clemson. That's one of their top teams. - Notre Dame's the only right team they play. - Yeah. - Right. And this speaks to like the bigger as the ACC thing, like Clemson obviously one of the most disappointing seasons they had a really long time. Preseason number four, they finish up seven and six. Even Davo grabbed like 10 guys out of the transfer portal, which I'm assuming we didn't want to do. New offensive coordinator. You still have seven new offensive starters with this group. They lost three guys on defense. The top 15, they NFL draft picks. Chad Morris comes in, but even Chad Morris. People kind of like, hey, when's the last time this guy's like dialed it up? Was it 10 years ago when you felt really excited about it? Vazena four star quarterback. There's not a lot on him. Obviously lit it up against SMU. But the drop off from Miami to then what is next? Like you have to start like maybe Louisville, 'cause they're sort of consistent and put it together. Jennings is back at SMU. So there's some other teams that are potentially here, but it just feels like there's such a gap between Miami and whoever would challenge him in this conference. - I think there is. I think if you looked at the spending receipts, Miami wouldn't be close to many other teams in the ACC either. I think there's a very real reason for that. I think it's clearly it's SMU Louisville. And I do think I would not have said this a week ago and I'm kind of mad at myself for not doing it. Virginia looked really good against NC State. I know it's one game. You don't want to overlap to it. - They looked awesome. I mean, that's supposed to be an NFL quarterback for NC State and they shut them down. - And then if you start looking at their schedule, you kind of go through it. There's not that many tests. They could be favored most of them. But I really think in the similarity between the big 12 and the ACC is I think the only way there are two bid leagues is if you see an upset in the title game, which if you get a cold weather game, I know they moved it today time. So maybe it's not as bad in Charlotte, but or if you get a day where you fumble a couple times and you get some fluky touchdowns, you could get beat at college football. But I really think that's the only recipe for the ACC to get to win is if you see an upset in the ACC title game and somebody beats Miami. And same thing with the big 12 with Texas Tech. - So you want to talk about gaps here, the big 12. - And you want to talk about schedules. Like we talked our way into a couple of Miami challenges, try to do with Texas Tech. - I can't. - You're quite impossible. If you look at the projections for Texas Tech, so they're clearly far and away and they should be, talent wise and I know they brought in Castellanos, but when Hammond played last year against Utah, he was terrific. So this might just be September insurance for Hammond, because there's a lot of like hand ringing about, what does this mean for Hammond? I think they're adding depth just in case the sky were to be heard again because then there's a bunch of other pieces there. Now, looking at the schedule, I couldn't believe how bad it was when I was looking at it again. So no BYU, no Utah, no K state. Houston's the only team that they would play that's like in that tier behind them. They play seven of the 10 worst projected big 12 teams. They're not going to play anybody out of conference on top of everybody else. If they don't win the big 12 and make the playoff, this is actually one of the most disappointing scenarios of any program in college football. - Totally great. The only thing I would disagree with you, and you didn't really make a statement on it. I think Castellanos is not an insurance policy. I think he's an offensive weapon. 'Cause remember, he went to the NFL draft to try to be a receiver. He is not a, I don't think he has a future at the next level as a quarterback. Clearly they can use him there because he's obviously pretty good. I think it's Will Hammond's team, but I think you could draw up some plays for Thomas Castellanos, put him in the back field, Wildcat, put him at receiver in the slot. I think he's just another out of offensive weapon for Texas Tech. - Yeah, that's totally fair. - Yeah, I mean, you're right. I did not look at it that way. I looked at it for the quarterback reasons. - Which makes sense as well. 'Cause then you get the best of both worlds. You have, 'cause he's, I don't think he would know the system the first month of the season. So like by the time you get to October, he feels comfortable there. So you do have that insurance, but I think they'll wrinkle him in as a playmaker, just fight across the board. Joe McGuire, now I don't know if this is blowin' smoke up. Is blowin' smoke or what? He did say he thinks this year's defense is better than last year's defense. The other thing too, man, I am going to lay every point spread that is out there, because Joe McGuire was talking about how upset they were about the way they were treated with the Brendan Swarsby thing, which clearly was mishandled. But they kinda, 'cause I was like, how do you get your team not to overlook all these opponents? - Sorry. - I think they're gonna look to unleash a little bit on most of those teams in the Big 12. Remember, everybody was against them. Hey, they screwed them. We're gonna, why? - I was everywhere against them. I mean, it wasn't like they were completely innocent in all this, but they're looking to kinda unleash. So, I think it's gonna be one of those seasons where we don't know what Texas Tech is until we get to the playoff, which is why they're actually one of the teams. I have BYU beating them in a Big 12 championship. I know they've come up short in the Big 12 title the last couple of years. I think BYU is kinda physically built for that. They'll have been tested way more than Texas Tech in the season. I think Bare Bachmire makes a big step forward as a passer to make them a little bit more balanced, bring it back to L.J. Martin. And Colony's to talk, he always has sort of a defense that's physical, and they got pushed around a little bit, but I think they could, I feel more convinced you could see somebody clip Texas Tech in the Big 12 title than even Miami and ACC. - Yeah, Bare will be better. O-Line is really good. Bring it back four starters from there. In 10 of the 16 defensive players, you have two and a more steps are all coming back. I know they lost their defensive coordinator here, but I like BYU when I have them in, so it sounds like we actually agree on this. - So do you have them in the same way I do? Is it upset in the Big 12 title? - No, I just said seven. - So do you have Texas Tech out? - No, I have BYU is at large. - Okay, isn't that large? I got you. - Yeah. - Got you. Nice. - Anything with Utah here? - I think like are we sleeping on 'em? Maybe. - Damn beer. - That's a telephone frame. You wanna talk about some Heisman momentum? - Yeah. - If he had, it'd be a fun thing to track week to week. Remember back in week four when everyone was saying this? And then it kinda got a little tough to watch at times, but I'll give another one of my third and long. The other is like, what do you do? Red Zone, they were number one in Red Zone touchdown percentage. Like that's a real thing there. And obviously this is a new world for them and two plus decades of having, waiting him there, 21 years. But I think they're at least worth mentioning maybe more so than K-State for me at least. - Definitely. And they also, I think the B-Wide, the Holy Wars in Salt Lake. So I think it's at Rice Eccles, which I think is one of the ones I had a struggle with that pick. They did lose two first rounders to the NFL draft on the offensive line. And they did lose, remember I talked Jason Beck? I really like him as the offensive play caller. Gone to Michigan with Kyle Wittingham. I'm a little bit concerned about the ampere, but he's pretty special with what he can do. He was really solid. I think there's gonna be a little bit of a culture shift. How do you adapt to that? And that's why I'm probably just not as bullish on Utah. - All right, so if we put it all together then, 'cause I know I've like two quick things before I let you go here. So the SEC, we agree on Georgia, Texas. I have LSU, you have Bama. - Correct? - Yep. Big 10, you have Indiana. You have USC over Indiana. - Yes, and I had Michigan in there, but I could easily be talked out of that. - We'll just put them down underneath here. Big 12, you obviously have BYU if you have one in the title game. - Yep, and I had Texas second and I don't, I think that should be a debate, but I don't see how you punish a team for the extra game. - Okay, so that leaves the group of six, which everyone's pick has been Boise State. Do you have something different? - I put UTSA, watch out for Owen McCown. I was talking about outside the box. Their win total I think is eight and a half, like they surprise him, big fan of Jeff Trailer and what he could do. So, but I ignored the code of state as the team we better watch out for as well. They're gonna be favored in every game. They already had a big one over Jacksonville State. UNLV looks a little more beatable. And I think college, the selection committee they are human, I think they would love a story. You know, going from FCS to FBS. - So, who do you have is your next, like we have one spot here? - For next one out or next one that's in? - Next one that's in. If you're doing three from the SEC, three from the big 10, but is Michigan your 12th? - Yeah, I had Michigan in. Oh wait, 'cause you had the USC in, right? - No, no, I had Indiana. I just went chalk in the big 10. - Oh, we got to keep Indiana and then let's go USC. I'd rather have USC than Michigan. 'Cause I'm more of a believer in them. - So you have Indiana in then? - Well, yeah, 'cause I want you to, I want to make sure. We're doing collaborative. - Oh, it's a hybrid. - All right, so how about this scenario? If Penn State's 11 and 1 in Texas is 9 and 3 in the 4th SEC team, Will you? are you for Texas? No, but if Penn State is ten and two and they only beat one of those three teams they play, then I think it's very much a real possibility. I do think a nine and three. So I actually had Texas as a nine and three getting in the first time this year in the college ball playoff. Okay. I think a nine and three team gets in. There's been way too much noise, but I do think it has to be one of the SEC teams that also plays one of the tougher non-conference games like Oklahoma Place Michigan, Bama Place Florida State. They got in last year even though they lost that game. Texas Ohio State. I do think they have to have one of those non-conference wins to help them get in. I don't know. I'm comparing it to Penn State's schedule then saying like, hey, you had to beat Ohio State for me to argue you in. I'm just trying to, look, I'm just trying to see how to seven. Well, I think 11 and one don't matter what you're I mean in the big 10. I wouldn't say that for the ACC or big 12, but I think 11 and one you're safe versus any number 10 and two. I think it's where the 10 and that's why I think I'd be okay with it like because I think 10 and two versus nine and three is realistic to say you know what that nine and three should be over the 10 and two. And it does matter like even Texas last year, if they if they just didn't lose to Florida who was an average team last year they're in. Like you mentioned with Ohio State, like if Ohio State loses to Nebraska and that's one of their three losses, then I don't think they should be an either. But if it's if they're three losses to their really good teams and they still beat a Texas or a Michigan, they still had really good wins, but their three losses were really good. I'd be okay with that too. I'm doing exactly what I said I wasn't going to do to keep you this late, but I have to ask you one thing here. Do you believe the ACC has been neutralized because of the transfer portal? I think they've been I think the conference is better from top to bottom, but I think it has hurt their teams at the top. It has hurt their title contenders because they lack the depth that they used to. They they lack the ability to hoard the talent that they used to. So I think the conference is better and healthier from top to bottom, but they just have lacked the national title contender. It's interesting because I was going through the portal rankings, 13 of the top 30 going into 26 or SEC teams. The top three are SEC teams, five of the top 10 are SEC teams. The ACC has three of the top 30 portal teams. The big 10 has seven of the top 30. If you go through the top portal transfers in the big 12 in the ACC, it's a ton of non-power for guys. So I think what's happened here is that early days, everybody was like, this is amazing. We can just go get players and boosters and now we can pay. We can do all this kind of stuff. There's turning in first of all for the 26. And who knows what the portal rankings will mean. There's a massive gap between Mississippi State has a higher transfer portal grade than seven teams in the big 10 in Mississippi State has the worst grade in the SEC. So so could we have a return to dominance for the conference? I don't know. I don't know who that top team is right now, but it's very clear that like in the big 12 in the ACC, they're shopping at a completely different store now a couple of years into this. A few years into it, I should say. And that's why that's why we're only talking about one or maybe two from each one of those conferences. Thank you, Danny. That's the reality. I appreciate it. You got it, man. Always fun. I jumped you there because I know you have to leave. So sorry. See ya. Draft King's game day arrives with massive deals, exclusive offers and an all day celebration built for sports fans. The Draft King Sports app is now live in all 50 states. Draft King's game day is yours. Remember the date September 2nd. Draft King's game day is the kickoff of a new season, a new era in the biggest day in sports history. Get pumped. All right. A couple plays for you. One is my own. And then the other is off something Danny talked about with his playoff projections here. Texas Tech minus 200 to make the college football playoff. So not win the big 12 not advance just to make the playoff field. I know it's not a cool bet because the value isn't there and all that stuff. But my God, minus 200 to win the big 12. It's minus one. 10. So maybe you go that way with it. But I just can't imagine with that schedule. Not only they play seven of the projected 10 worse teams in the big 12. They're out of conference. All three teams are projected 90 90th or worse. So if you went through all the 130 plus teams in college football, the three teams that Texas Tech plays outside of the big 12 project to be 90th or worse. So minus 200. Also USC over eight and a half wins market between I don't know one minus one 36 for this one. We know it's a brutal schedule. So if you're running through it, clearly you're looking at Oregon, Washington, Penn State in consecutive weeks with no time off. Then they've got Wisconsin who should be much better offense because they couldn't be much worse. And then you finish with Ohio State and a week off in Indiana, then Maryland, who actually leads the country, I believe, in continuity ranking from last year. So go you dirty turps. So over eight and a half on decays play there for you as well. If we can just go ahead and do that for you. But I love that Texas Tech minus 200. 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So this is not life advice and taking forever to get to life advice. But I have to talk about this scam artist who was posing as a member of the San Francisco 49ers. I guess his name is John Love. He was arrested after apparently defrauding women of over $1.3 million. And the content was endless this weekend. It was unbelievable. So if you don't know the story, the guy basically kind of created all of these pages where the story was that he was from he was a business man from Switzerland. And then he'd linked up with these other like top NFL wide receivers. And they were working out with him. And they were like, man, you're awesome. And then he had tryouts and then he signed with the Niners, but then he was hurt because his pinky was busted up, which he showed a video of, which didn't make any sense. And then he somehow like ended up on the Rams. He'd said he'd gone to college for a year, but was hurt. So there was no tape. And so apparently, you know, a bunch of women fell for this. I don't really blame the women. I think there's like a bigger conversation that maybe I can get to and like why that happens. I think a lot of times you just want to believe you have the yeah. Yeah. There's been no promises of riches. They just have the juice. He would do a lot of it. They don't have their own cell phone. They just they got it. He would do a lot of videos that I see like there was some guy that posted some video. He was presenting himself. I guess he is or said he was a financial planner. This is a different person altogether. And his whole spiel was don't play Grand Theft Auto 6. Live it. And he was like you're wasting your time playing video games. What you need to do is get mansions, get cars. And then he's like, I have guns. I have guns too. He's like, so why live out someone else's reality? Why be a marker for some other like be your own entity? Don't play the video game. Protect role playing. Do it for real. So kids out there get yourself some mansions this week. This sounds like the guy that manipulate time. It was like, you know, 6 a.m. to whatever. They're my first day. Yeah, you're like, okay, you got it. No, I'm doing it wrong. The levels of dislike that I reach when I see these kinds of videos, I just go like, who the fuck pays a tent. But the thing is, some people do. Like the guy that that sells cars and yells at you if you're fat, like everybody walks out to the seminar at like a residence in. And he takes off a shirt and the guy's in great shape. And then he brings up somebody who wants to learn how to be better at sales. And he says, take your shirt off. And he's like, you're fat. And he's like, yeah, I'm trying. He's like, well, you're not trying hard enough. And it's like, Hey, that people sign up for the shit. Man, they do it. So you like John Taffer. Is it that much different? Hey, well, Taffer. Not a negative way. I like him too. All right. Yeah. I think there's a Taffer element of like, hey, it's a TV show. And this is this is entertainment. And I think some of these cars, you know, I know what you're saying. And I don't always love all the Taffer appeal. Where it's like, what is, what is natural? The main's history. Trains. Yeah, absolutely. But he has like that great built-in thing. There's the run train special. Yeah, we're going to do that. That's all rules. That look like logs being transported. But that speaks to the main's community. Yeah, that shit drives me crazy. He has the nice built-in thing though. There's always gonna be a maniac in the kitchen because that's like I think you have a pretty high like you know the cooks not necessarily chef but cooks kind of be a little testing he's like great I'll just go in red face screaming at this guy we're gonna get five good minutes out of this he can always he can always fall back on yell at the guy who's super stressed in the kitchen so that's just like a built-in TV gold yeah I know you love Taffer Kyle so I don't really do we should just quit while we're ahead so our guide is john love he had a video of him running routes at the beach he had some other videos on the helmet workout he always had the helmet yeah then there's like other videos where he's in the car and he makes sure that the helmets kind of in it there's another video of him in a bedroom in the helmet is around it's fucking crazy that he's constantly dressed up like this and like to the women out there our audience maybe notice it's not a 50/50 split but it's it's always like one of those all-time tells is that anybody that's a professional athlete would not be wearing his gear out he doesn't do that I remember one time one of my buddies who looked like Mike Timlin and was wearing a red socks hat and I had bartended to this place the girls are like are you out with Mike Timlin and then one of the other girls like knew it she was a seasoned vet she's like he wouldn't be wearing his hat out like I was like oh no so three fingers from yeah right you you right now you throw a baseball hat on and maybe like a little sort of wig in the back situation like rod back is right there for you to impersonate not a compliment just saying I love rod back cut off dead of that's could be a whole different R.I.P he died Dan yeah wow you looked at a quick sorouty I kind of dial up you got over there oh yeah so these videos like I don't know like some people are just so entertained by it they're not mad I hate it I just hate fraudsters I hate con artists I really hate the men that do this because they're just to me they're just such pieces of shit I know a lot of people can be like oh the the women deserve it all that kind of stuff but like you know I'm not really here to like take a side or anything because I think there's really only one side but his videos when he's sitting there and he's like I've got a 15 million dollar house in Malibu I'm just about to buy this other mansion I also have a place in billionaires row I have this I have that and then he's talking about his Richard Mill watch he's like I this is 700,000 and then he's like I'm really good with money it's like you're really good with money and you spent sep look the Richard Mill watches are sick they're awesome 700 grand on one of those you have to have so much money for that to be any kind of transaction that's probably good all while you are a practice squad guy that there's no actual proof of other than the AI video that he posted that showed a Google search of him saying that was he was a member of the San Francisco 49ers which is hilarious because when he shows that he actually puts it in the video where he's trying to make sure everybody thinks that he's on the team he's like that's Google that's not me that's Google who has to explain like twice that it's Google other than anybody that would be making up the entire thing so I don't know that I'm like I was asking somebody else would if you could have them on the podcast would you have them on and they were like yeah they'd be hilarious this is a good guess because of course it was a meat eater um nice Steve Steve was like yeah we have him on uh I mean are you guys not do you get mad about it are you too entertained to get mad do you take the side of like hey if you fall for it that's your fault you know I had a close something close to this happened us with Mr. David Bloom in the Super Bowl heist and everything like that where I was like I was going to show up at the bar if he was going to bring us to the Super Bowl but I definitely wasn't going to be cancelling trips for this you know what I mean so I don't know I kind of smelled something crazy but you know the second he asked me for money there I was going to be like no and so he never did so that would never ask you for any money never ask me for any money uh he probably got a few like rounds from different guys at the bar but like that was about it that's what was so confusing about this but I mean to the guy in that group that like cancelled his gig at the Super Bowl because he thought he was going I gotta say I think you might be a little bit stupid for that that's all so I don't know I'm kind of in the same boat guy maybe I just have no heart and you could just yeah I've been put in that situation before but there was like one tweet from this girl and I think this is real but it was like it she's allegedly one of the people that he scammed and it was like she tweeted out went from dating these little Bay Area boys too out of date with an NFL player it's got to be signed to never settle it's got to be fake and it's not like which player is it she goes to one of the best wide receivers in the NFL it's all you need to know I'm just like I actually don't care I thought I'm gonna be honest with you I don't care I don't care like that like at some point you are being a willing you're being willingly ignorant I think yeah I will say like growing up when I was younger like I did have a couple of you know pretty boy friends that were like I can get anything I want if I just talk to the right people and it was always girls it's like yeah I gotta go pick her up from work later and then he doesn't and you know I was hanging out with him before and I'm like adjacent to this and I feel bad he's my friend I got I accept his good qualities and bad but when I see what he does to the people that he's basically it's it's scamming basically just getting favors from from people that you're in sort of a romantic thing with I feel bad it makes me feel a bit yucky but like that's that's where I've been more exposed to is like the guy who's just like she gave me 50 bucks I ran her car on empty I forgot to pick her up from work I'm using her old cell phone like that and that that feels gross to me but to me that's just a shitty boy friend like but he's not a boyfriend though he's definitely not maybe she maybe he's got the maybe he's got the the juice to make her think that but like that's not the case so that that was really more what I've had experience with my my levels of like fraud acceptance are are con our acceptance like if you're scamming like old people on the internet like that's to me is like some of the lowest at the low like they're they're like incredibly vulnerable they don't know like they just don't know right I just kind of feel like a simple Google search would have solved this problem like a simple one and again I think there's willingly willing full ignorance of these people that want to say they want to do this thing they want to feel cool and they don't look it and do it at all and this guy just starts I don't know maybe again maybe I'm being too cold-hearted but this is the kind of like it's not a victim with crime but it's like hey you kind of you kind of made your own bed in this situation it feels like people are having a hard time if he's saying like hey I've got this house over at this house and then he was his position was that like I have made to cover me like how could you have these houses if you're on the practice squad which I think there's probably a few people that he would have talked to that would have gone because there were some other women that were like oh he tried to come at me like and they would send all the text out and that kind of stuff and there was this one woman who's like I have brothers and cousins that play ball like this doesn't make any sense how was there not one clip of you ever in college he was like oh because I only had one year at college but then I was hurt I'm the good will acting a football so there's just a record of yeah just super mysterious then 90s this is easy you want to go out and selfie and say you're hoping to get to call it from the past socks it works okay but this is this the story obviously anyone that knew anything about sports and some of these women were sharing these like I always try to come at me he was trying to get with me and then they were just going like there has to be a clip there has to be some play like it doesn't just work out this way and that's for another video like that he's blasting out to the masses going you know the whole way of getting involved with the NFL as if it was like some business like some startup like there's not you don't just have to get drafted and he's like I'm working out with Antonio Brown I'm working out with Ty Rekill right flag I'm working out with was it Josh Brown's the other one and then he was like these are Hall of Famers these are Hall of Famers and they were just like you're nice he's like and that's why I was able to get tryouts he's like but I was only going to do it if they were the teams that had a good chance to win a Super Bowl because it's like I'm not that's the other thing is he like basically saying I don't really want to do this I don't want to play football in college I don't want to play football but I'm so nasty in my workouts and then he was also 35 I think while he was saying it was 24 I'd say his hips moved a little bit more like he was a guy was 35 but for the guys that are like hey look at his his toe drills you should have known nobody would fucking know very few people would ever actually know the route on the beach is absurd as it looks most people wouldn't actually fucking know so if you have your whole story down which he has cover was that he'd made all of his money in business and that's how we met all of these guys you could see how somebody that doesn't know anything about sports could probably fall for this on top of hoping that it's true and convincing yourself to fall for it because it's like oh my god this guy's awesome especially when he's talking about shopping sprees and travel one woman he was talking to he was like I want to come back and start having babies with you are you good like it was very informal felt very it does like I feel like there needs to be a little bit more planning to have some kids here but you know for bad for lack of a better term do we know did he have like a real job too like what did he do something he's 35 like what was he doing for you know 15 years of adulthood I don't know if there was going to be an office guy or something and he did this thing on the side or working on it like an ex-athlete and it was like I can kind of figure this out yeah I think there was one stripper that he was talking to that he was mad that he was like you didn't spend more time with me he's like I'm on my way right now to go buy Lamborghini he's like I know the general manager there his name is done. Yeah. If you need to look that up, we're done to deal. But on the money front, like, why are you giving this guy money? If he's standing in front of these cars and he's supposedly in these mansions that he's living in and all this stuff, I think this is back to, is it I love you, man? Which movie is it worth? Steve would be our guy for that, I think. Joe Ben? Yeah. As a Jason Siegel needs, he needs some money to front something in a trade, like the whole premise is like, is he actually going to scam Paul? He did. It was the billboard thing, right? Yeah. But it was real. He was telling the truth. Yeah. It's a money tie. Yeah. Yeah. You were talking about yesterday because you're in this world more than I am because my question would be like, if you have all this money, why are you asking for money and you're kind of like, well, you know, if you do have money, it doesn't mean you're always liquid and you have that, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay, that does actually, I guess makes sense. But if you're just like, but you ask other people with money for money, you know? Yeah, they'll ask like, do we have the, I know the hit rate probably wasn't awesome, because there's people came forward. Like, how many women account for the 1.3 million? Did he get, did he hit like one jackpot and a couple other supplementals? Or was he like, cruising? Like is this, was this like a five? No, I love 40 people. 1.3 is what's reported. Who knows what it would be? Because it would be super impressive if he pieced together 1.3 from like $1,000. That's like, get that guy somewhere where he's doing our sales, right? I mean, I don't know. Yeah. No days off. But people, and by the way, on the liquid thing, there's nothing number than when people talk about like, this guy's net worth. And then there's like, well, why did you need to do this? Like, do you people realize that these guys, like Elon Musk doesn't have a fucking checking account with that net worth number? A lot of this stuff is all on paper. And so there are people that are really, really rich that have moments where they need cash to do other things. And it doesn't mean that they're even remotely poor. I don't know if that's what this guy was doing. I think the probably the easier hack for him or scam for him would be, I have a chance like, hey, I did this deal with this last guy. I put in 500,000. If you want to put in like 10k or whatever, this is going to go 10x in 12 months and all that stuff. And once you're, look, I'll admit too, when I was broke, I remember watching these documentaries or whatever reading about these stories that these guys losing all their money. And I'd be like, oh my god, like, how does that happen? Once you start to learn how like these investments work and you get pitched and then, hey, this fund and this new thing and this is all going to happen. And what you have to do is you have to find somebody that you trust who has like a really good track record. But you can kind of see how it would happen if you're not on top of it at all. If you meet somebody who presents themselves as somebody, I mean, think about like all the athletes. But the thing is like, the athletes get a bad rap with it because they're famous and then they get kind of like hit with this tag of like, they're all collectively stupid and let this thing happen to them. There are plenty of really smart guys that are rich that have great track records that then link up with like the wrong person for the wrong thing. And then they get destroyed on some of these deals. And once you learn kind of how it works, I will admit their times. I'm like, oh man, like I guess I could see how how this could happen. And this feels like in a far more informal way where there's not as much checks and balances. And you don't have your own financial advisor doing all this stuff. I imagine it probably wasn't really that hard for him to get the hopes up of all of these people. If the woman already thinks he's on the fucking 49ers and she's psyched that she's dating an NFL player, she's probably even more susceptible would be like, oh, if I can only give you like 10 grand that you're going to five times it in this amount of time because that's the kind of deal that you did. And you've shown me all these props that you have that show this life that you're actually not really living. Like, I think it is actually kind of simple if you're determined enough to do this. And that's where it actually does make me mad because I just think that if you're going to be this kind of person to do this to other people because you're such a fucking phony, you're such a fraud. You just, I don't, there's an entertainment level, but I'm never going to come back around. Right. I don't know. Like, sure, they made mistakes and everything, but I'm not, I don't really want to victim blame in this one. I mean, for the record, I only call an iron. Like, this guy's awesome. No, I didn't think we were going to buy his jersey, but I somebody else is selling though. I think the Niners was kind of a smart choice, which is just how many different guys you've seen on the field in the last couple of years. Like, that was probably probably a good choice. It was good. We just like, if you had to pick one of the 32, that's probably the front runner. Packers would be a little tougher, smaller community. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. And we'll see what happens here. I can't imagine being on the Niners. I imagine being on the team and then seeing this stuff this weekend. I can't, that must have been. 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I was like it would be funny if you were somehow able to get like this like incredible suite and you were at state by yourself and everybody else had to stay like in the plebs and like these. I wouldn't want to do that either though. See I think that'd be funny and I think you know create some robberies who knows people can be upset with you. But yeah there's just no way you're doing all that stuff. It does look fun. I'll be honest with you like the big blob you know launching people off of that couch and it's fun. It looks great. Softball can take it or leave it. But there's some activities that I yeah I think it would be great. I think you'd be more interested. I'm more interested in why did you get the ass for the international? The golf thing? No, I didn't get the ass for that. I would have done that but as I say I think you would be in on that if you got the ass. So if I was invited to that I would do it. I don't know that I'm like I don't know. Isn't it like people with millions of followers and stuff that you have to like that's a pretty big social media thing. So I don't I don't know if I'm that guy. Look at the little loose and he got enough followers I would say I think you're okay. I don't know but they just take a mic. Cut out. You were talking. Yeah we couldn't hear you. Sounded like it was gonna be good though. You're there now. Still don't have you. Yeah can't can't hear Kyle. Uh-oh. Sorry it's been a while since I did that. It's just a big fucking new button. Sorry guys. I was I was saying I don't think we get attached to something like that unless Ryan does it and I think Ryan's bar is too high for us to end up doing stuff like that. So you know maybe a few more clips on the social side to get to get our presence up but I think without without Ryan's attachment I think we just we're probably gonna stay home for stuff like that. Oh that's definitely true. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying like I don't I don't want anyone at bars to be upset with me about that but it was it was kind of like hey will you do some of the other stuff and I was like yeah I'll do some of the other stuff but it was like maybe the golf maybe well I want to I think I'm gonna go to the headquarters twice a year to do stuff. I did like seven things and I was there when Chicago for the moment you were busy. We wait in business aren't at camp on our store right? I don't think so. No. So like yeah I don't know. Past a certain age there's certain sleeping arrangements that I'm just not doing anymore. I think everybody. Yeah, Jerry was there's a lease around a lot. Yeah. Yeah, so credit to Jerry. They looked exhausted. I'm sure they are Just exhausted Would you get along with anyone in like a sleeping share room situation? Like who would you put like KB Nick? You like you can think those guys are funny. I'm trying to think of who like it's actually funny I'm just trying to think of like these that you would be like actually not be super bummed to be a roommate with you and Titus are probably like a loaner So not for how it could probably be fine. I think just quietly reading in the bunk He might be more loanerish than I yeah, thank you, right? Yeah So yeah, that's the answer Kyle if you want to do it I was busy this weekend. I got ordained this weekend. So I had some shit. I couldn't miss oh Well, but you could have scheduled around it if you were the camp. Yeah, you guys do whatever you want You don't have to check with me and don't care I think we're kind of like a package deal and a lot of things. He's like so. Okay. Yeah Little feedback girl who asked got to move you guys missed the most obvious reason that she asked him She wants a soft way to find out how much money he has and if he'll say that he'll just pay for movers I don't think that's it. All right, you're changing the most obvious. Yeah, okay This guy wouldn't have been taken by the 49ers guy. That's for sure I'm sorry. I just hate those emails like you guys talked about it for 12 minutes hit on every here's the one thing you did the conspiracy We do miss that's fine. Yeah, we definitely miss stuff, but not the thing All right Alone in a new city acting like I'm 50 22 years old six four one seventy. Yes, I know I could fill out the frame No gym stats of no, which should be obvious given the dimensions, but relatively good shape Had to it chest workout last Friday hurt so bad hurt the worst of any chest workout I've ever done and I guess I could share the routine at some point, but I told the trainer at the end I was like hey, there's no more reps left. I'm like it's done if there's no reps It's all over and I was like dying as I was done I was like it was today even good and he was like all all work is good work So you know if you're in the gym and it's not going your way all work is good work. Shout out to Paul I love that all right player comp tomorrow to rosin age 60 playing with his grandchildren crafty score who is Overindexed on their mid-range game to compensate for lack of ability to dribble past anyone the height usually attracts comp such a Sturkey honest paul mill sap and it's often unwarranted. I've been in a law I've been a long time fan of the show never thought that I actually someday would be one writing in but here we are as the subject line notes I'm in a new city on the east coast They've been struggling to find the motivation to be sociable To be a sociable new grad. I know this exact topic has been covered before But I was wondering what your advice would be for someone who's struggling to find the motivation to hit the bars and enjoy themselves Part of the problem is that because I'm so early in my career I'd rather spend most nights working you're getting ahead of the week So I put myself in the best position possible even if that means sacrificing the social aspect of my life What is odd is that I am a fairly sociable person I'm a fairly sociable person it would not be considered an introvert But for whatever reason I have all of a sudden found going out and making friends to be a waste of time despite my better judgment Any advice on how to get out of this old person mentality would be great Well, I think there are Cycles or whatever like where you can say, hey, this is this is all I'm going to do you want to prioritize work Maybe at a very very young age post-college for you at 22 to just go, hey, I don't want to do this I don't want to stay in a crowd of bars and I want to go through all this stuff and have to go through like the intro and the first Ending of like meeting a girl, which is like the toughest ending and all that kind of stuff Um, I totally get it But if you go through this cycle for too long and then you look around or you're 27 and nobody wants to fucking hang out with you And you have not one guy to call in the town that you live in this will be the origin story of why that happened so I don't have any Like it's up to you what you want to prioritize, but we get all of these emails all the time from like I'm in a new town And I can't meet anybody. It sounds like other people are far more motivated. You're just checking out You already have the answer to the test You already know why this is happening to you and I would make it simple and I have more thoughts But before you guys jump in it would just be Just be careful how long you get out of this road because if you actually do want friends and you want all these different things And by the way, it doesn't just have to be bars, okay? But don't go so long down this. I'm focused on prioritizing all the career stuff if the friendship stuff is important You for some people are just not important some people are just like whatever. I don't care I can have casual friends in the workplace. I don't think people should really go through life that way But be careful once you start to taste the nectar the nectar of I don't know. I said it that way Of um isolation Beware is is all I can tell you what's also what's more important to you Is it meeting girls or meeting dudes or assuming you're a straight man here, right? Like I don't know if meeting dudes at bars at nighttime. I don't think that works. Usually they're more pushy shovy at nighttime They're not really hey, what's your name pal? You know, I mean if you're if that's where you're going to meet women But I mean it's probably more important to have friends that you that you will continue with a long time for so I don't know if it's some sort of intermeral things if you want to get to run then you know want to get once it gets colder You know at the local middle school gyms or wherever they do that stuff on Saturdays Um a run club came into the bar the other day those people looked a little bit nuts to me But they seem like they were having a nice time They all seem to be happy way too time I see but maybe that was just this one But yeah, I think maybe you should prioritize some friends that you could lean on Before like just being like I haven't had a date in a while because that that stuff will come and go Especially it takes takes longer to find the right one that you move through life with But definitely I try to get some it's a boys to hang out with and that could that could be Seeds planted at work or again. There's there's all sorts of activities in in your town when you're at the grocery store Take a look at that bulletin board that you always walk past who knows Well really for acting off of that. Yeah, maybe try out racquet ball I don't know if you just posted like instead of room for rent or bike for sales like friends question mark and then your phone number You just pull those I bet you don't do well. I think that's how you get put on a little is too well Yeah, uh this this reminds me of our goat Tom already had a great quote about this He said being alone for a long period of time is dangerous. I guess it's dictating once you see how peaceful it is You don't want to deal with people anymore, and that is true. I've noticed that like Working from home, you know like back in the day We you know we go into a studio and we talked and you'd meet new people and it was collaborative And I do miss parts of that in my life. I mean like right now it's easier because I'm just not cool I you know take shower going upstairs and laptop on we chat a little bit whatever And I have to look for excuses to like and having kids does kind of help because I gotta go pick them up Take care we got grocery shopping yada yada, but there's like it's really easy to just like not go anywhere all day Especially when you don't have any to do or you don't have any friends that are pressing you to go out and that like so I don't fall into that trap because it really kind of is a trap And as Ryan said you're gonna wake up 10 years from now being like okay Maybe I my life was easier because I didn't have to deal with some bullshit But I also don't know anybody now and I have no true friend. No sit on his bench with sell bread. Yeah Now this guy's feeding birds already by himself to work up if you look up maybe early. It's the highlight of your day Um start naming them, but I would echo the thing too like it's like it sounds like he's a Gen Z guy is fresh out of school Right you said so like those people aren't drinking anyway, so you might as well like find some activities like is there like a do you like? I don't know. Yeah, do you like sports do you like? I don't know are you into like lower the rings do you like a large ring do like there's a there's a group in a city for like anything You want to do like find some things that you like doing and Maybe try to like go to those events. I mean, you can still be alone a lot like I like being alone all the time Like my wife's like the what's you know what's your love language? We talk about that stuff all the time and you know I know birds is like gifts or whatever you out of you out and she I was like what's mine she's like you're just just being left alone Yeah, that's probably like I do like being left alone, but you can't be alone. That doesn't sound like a love language It just sounds like something you like More it was more just like you like you value your space and I do value my space I like to just kind of like be alone from time to time Doesn't mean I want to be alone all the time or not be married though And that's what again, this is the trap that you can't fall into because like yes, that is a pretty attractive part of life But like it's it kind of is going to make you miserable in the long run Yeah, I'll I'll tell you Um, I think like COVID especially out of here because it was so much longer and then to go from like even if I were in different stretches of being social and Connecticut or not and then if you know with somebody or some sort of long distance thing or whatever I was going into the workplace five days a week And there's there's something to that like I liked getting up and going to work. I went in Extremely early because I'd liked the job um I'd like the whole process of trying to figure out like okay, what am I gonna do today and all that kind of stuff And then as soon as the day was over I'm like I'm out of here And then it's you know the rest of my routine and there was always somebody around but I would say I mean this is turning into something different here But me working from home and that's I don't want to not work from home But there are stretches where I'm like wow This has been This has been we're gonna run here. It's not yeah Although I hadn't seen like in Connecticut I would do something where I'd be in the basement and I'd go all right It's been and I would count it. I was like it's been 68 days since you haven't done this sat here watched Basketball games but as again, I was going into a workplace with all of these people walking around saying hi to everybody And like look there was still some juice to ESPN For you where you walk into the building and you know you go to the cafeteria you do your routine and just granted once I got an office I was like pumped because I was like I can just go in there and hide and I just just took the show like I need to get through and figure out what all the show stuff's gonna do, but I know that, and maybe I'm speaking to this guy, maybe I'm not, but I'm just telling you, there can be some patterns that you can get into where it's easier, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's better, like easier isn't always better. And my work day, my routine is easier, and I'm not saying I wish I had to go into an office five days a week, but I think there'd be some things that would be a little bit better if that were the case. - Yeah, I'd say plant some seeds at work and see if that works. - I'm old now, so it doesn't matter. - And then just try to, like winter, maybe it's indoor golf league, you know, those are expensive if you don't have three other guys to go, so you might be able to jump into one of those for some, for an hour or two, bowling. I know I bring up bowling a lot, but you'd be surprised how fun it is when you try it. You know, we got cosmic bowling here on Friday nights, I think, so I try to, yeah, push yourself, like you said, it's not, it's not the easiest thing, but like push yourself to do one thing there. And yeah, try to see if you have any real relationships that work, that'll be sick. - Cosmic bowling, yeah, Google that. - That's awesome back in the day. - These are good ideas, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've swear to God, they love the way you just said cosmic bowling, but, uh, I know you didn't like it. Just trying to give this guy some actionable steps. Have you met friends long-term at cosmic bowling? No, but I go there with friends, you know what I mean? But I will say this about bowling. - You see, you already loaded up. - I will say this about bowling, Alex. The bar there is always 10 times better than you think it's gonna be. And there's a couple people that's beautiful there. Cause they know it. - It's always 10 times better than you think it's gonna be. - But, I think you can become friends with anybody and you're fine with it. I think there's other people that have kind of like, like I think one of the best things about you is that you don't have to reach a minimum threshold, right? You don't have to have $10,000 in this account to make sure that you're not getting charged for checks, physical checks. You look at people in a very open way. And so I think for other people, it might be like, "How many friends am I gonna meet at Cosmic Bowling?" That's all. I think it's a credit to you. I just don't know. It's applicable to everybody. - Okay. - I rescind Cosmic Bowling. - I feel like you're still taking it as a criticism. - I rescind Cosmic Bowling officially. - What is a good hobby to meet people though? I mean. - Swingers. (laughing) - Just look for the pineapple. - We'll see. - Yeah. - I think anything that there's-- - They seem to get along pretty quick. - Anything that they're signups for. And especially something that's like, you know, I'm not saying we should go on the highest hill in town and look for with all the bird watchers at 6am. But like something that they need, maybe to fill out a team for, I don't know. Like there's gotta be some sort of thing. - I did that. - Yeah, I'd probably pick town pickup hoops. I would play it in the summer league. And I was playing with these like dudes that were still in college. And like if I was, you know, they're great dudes. I would have never been them otherwise. They're awesome. Like if I was in a different place in my life, we'd be grabbed beers afterwards. It was fun. - Watch it fall. - More people are playing botchy ball in my life now than ever before it seems like. So that's the thing. You're young too, like that age group, like those guys are just dying for his uses to just do stuff. So like it's actually, once you kind of like get in, like it's gonna be easy to just like have activities to do. You just have to find that in. - Yeah, you need the one. You need the one. But some guys, you know, can be really tough. You're like, this guy's not cool enough. I don't wanna hang out with him. This one's, I don't know, man. This one's so bad. I'm not even, it's like, it sucks. - I'm gonna double check. I'm gonna research this one. I'm gonna run it through a machine or something. Is that fair? I think I'm gonna hold off on this one. - Through the AI machine. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's pretty bad. So. - Like depressing bad or? - Yeah, it's depressing. I mean, it's not like, we had a pretty depressing one. Thursday last week, I think we should need breaks in those, anyway. Yeah, that was a tough one. Look, we all know NFL Sundays are sacred. And so we found the perfect way to make sure we don't miss a single snap of NFL action. We're fully dialed in to NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV. When you bundle NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV, you get every game, every Sunday period. 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Back story, married two kids as you recall. Two year old son, six month old daughter. What's going on here? Did this guy hit us up? All right. My cousin, we're not all that close, getting married late George in New York at the end of September. Late George could spawn, I guess. I'm trying to figure it out. And if I'm being reasonable or selfish for the sake of being obvious, going as a family would mean taking both kids on a plane for the first time, two flights each way, looking all things necessary to keep two small humans alive, running a car driving an hour and a half, staying in an Airbnb, setting up two separate baby rooms, the wedding itself and doing the whole thing in reverse a few days later. Boy, would you put it like that in two and a half sentences? Even without anything else going on, I can't make the math work. The occasion of the cousin wedding doesn't justify the chaos in my mind, but we're also dealing with a pretty serious situation with our house, leaks, mold, house, down to studs, temporary housing. Well, and maybe relocating again. So my tolerance for voluntarily adding more chaos right now is extremely low. My first choice is to go by myself. I'd still be there for the wedding and the idea of one or two nights alone in a cold, dark, quiet hotel room where nobody needs anything for me. Sounds incredible right now. Boy, you're speaking the-- 65 on the A/C, as soon as you drop your bag. See how cold this can get? I like it. Stanford Steve said, it's a 55. You wake up with a strep throat and it'll be like, so what? We had to share our room once in Mississippi. I woke up the next day. I was sick for like four days. Wow. I was like, dude, are you serious? So did you put it-- did you hack into that? Like a golf cart? So go, I like it cold. That was when Gottlieb booked us a room for Camp Newton's first game, Auburn at Mississippi, and then couldn't make it. And then we showed up. There was only one hotel room. And then we were like, how were-- Right, dude. It's a three of us going to sleep in the two beds. But it's good thing Gottlieb missed it. Or he would have bronchitis. Some of us, they did on purpose. That sounds like a very Gottlieb thing to do with others. We were like, what? We were like, yeah, two rooms. They were like, it was only one. Tough place, start real. Tough place, you get a hotel room. Last minute. So maybe not Gottlieb was playing at all. I'll never forget that. And then driving back, just nasal drip the whole way back to Tuscaloosa. I was like, why did you have to set it up? Hoth. Because he's a beast, dude. He is a beast. It's more I hear about it and the more I'm totally clear on that. He was the next day. He was like mad at me for being upset at his home. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck did you do last day? He was like, oh, what? Adapt. Right. Word of a blanket. Choose to not be sick, dickhead. Sorry, man. What was Rose Bull? All right. All right. So here we go through that. Not because I don't want to be around my family. I think I'm just tired of the real complication and why I'm coming to the tripod of understandings my mom. She's assumed a sort of unelected, unofficial matriarch role in the family. I know it should be very unhappy if I say the kids aren't coming. More importantly, she'll try to negotiate a decision to death, different flights. Hell, God. I know exactly what you're talking about here. Different sleeping arrangements. Whatever makes a trip technically possible. She has a PhD in guilt trips and taking things absurdly personal. Most likely I'll say something snarky, rude, or even worse because I'm sick of the conversation and I have a hard time being direct and honest with her because I know the reactions I'll get. So I usually just give into what I know she wants or avoid the discussion entirely. So I'm being unreasonable here. Is this one of those family events where you just suck it up and bring everybody? Is it fair to say I'll come alone? The kids are staying home and this really isn't up for an negotiation like a big boy. How does the Rudy manage the family expectations of his own kids? Help me. Steve, do you ever lie to your kids or sick to get out of something? I have not done that yet. Although, man, we just had a stomach bug that ripped through our house. You said that. I know you mean it. It was tough. You know, when you're so sick, I'm never going to feel good again. That's what I was really. I was in that. I was like, I don't even know what feeling good feels like. I was like, it's been so long and it only been like 24 hours. It was like, it was like a pretty, it was like a 36 hour bug, you know? And I didn't, you know, I wish I could call you during it. How many times did I call you during it? It was like a Thursday, so I had some slack messages and I was late getting a couple things to you guys and I felt bad. But I would do it. I was in bed all day. I couldn't eat. And then you know, it's one of those situations, too, we're like. You know that you're feeling worse because you're not eating but you just have absolutely no appetite Like it was just a disaster. So anyway long story short. I haven't really used it as an excuse I'm sure I will in the future But I do have experience with the mom thing now my mom is a lovely woman Shout out to Ange, but she does that she is a little and she listens to these bosses. She'll hear this But I you know, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn. Oh, no She's a guilt-tripper like you know, she she knows kind of how to be like. Oh, you're really not gonna come to this thing You know, the one the thing that she does like they live up in Chatham in the cave and they have a lovely Ranch house like three bedrooms and you know I've got three sisters my sister just had a kid and she wants all of us to like come up and stay in this house I've got two kids one of them needs to sleep in a room by themselves We have a newborn and you're like mom I want to do this, but like the logistics just do not make sense like and do you do not do we not get a grasp on this And but but it's just like kind of the constant sort of like oh really? Okay, okay, and she's disappointed Right am I a bad guy now cuz I don't want to go hang out with mom. It's not that so moms are kind of good at that sometimes um, I would say you just have to put your put down man if you if you're if you are allowed to go by yourself That's the move a hundred percent. That's the moon. Yeah, cuz like I I You know traveling for weddings kids that whole thing nobody actually it's it's also amazing how when people who have kids And then they like grow out of it They forget how hard that kid phase is they don't they don't like understand that like bringing them as it's hard Like did you just go through this like 20 years ago? How do you understand how difficult this this this whole process is and what you're asking me So I think you just you gotta watch out for yourself I think that's whatever you're happy is whatever you feel like you're comfortable with doing and by the way if we're talking like ages The young baby is probably going to be fine in a plane I think I'm we flew with with our when I think when Marlow was maybe three months It's like bottle up flight bottle down and they sleep in the middle the problem is the two year old's gonna be an issue and then if you got two of them There's just no way that flight is gonna be enjoyable for you and anybody else around you So not only you helping yourself. You're helping the rest of that plan So I get a lot of your look out for yourself and you know if you kind of piss and family members off You do but don't get over it. It's not the other way Yeah, if you're not gonna have to do a week of repairs when you get back home after you left your wife with those kids You know for the whole thing as long as she's like on board and it's not like I guess if you really need to go You can just like you know how to read that situation if that's not gonna be the problem for you when you come back Yeah, I'd go out there and I just lie to my mom say the kids are sick because people respect that they really do They back right off Yeah, when he started talking about how she was gonna like plan it for him I was like oh because I know that person and It makes you even more mad in a way. It's like hey, it's clear. I don't want to do this So now you're gonna start feeling there's actually only a 45-minute layover in DC and like this will Great this will work and you're like you're missing the bigger point. I don't want to do this Well, I'll say about guilt tripers is they don't really ever stop so if you Don't bring the kids you show up solo. It's a cousin's wedding. It'd be fine, you know you show up You explain all the stuff that you have going on at home She can do whatever she wants you have to figure out a way to be immune to it because here's the thing Is there's going to be something next summer that she's going to do to you all over again and I don't know that it stacks up I don't know that it's like a credit score where the guilt increases because you didn't do this but Like what's going to change so it's going to happen even if you brought the kids and everything was great Know that there's probably another scenario looming in the future where she's gonna do the same thing all over again So you're like this didn't even repair anything it didn't fix it didn't change the course of time. It's just what she does So if you can kind of look at it that way going hey if I bring him she's still gonna do this to meet some other event So I'm not gonna bring him and she's gonna lay into me and it won't change anything So fine, and then you'll be in your room at peace and get to sleep in until 815 Yeah, as long as you don't need to be right. It's gonna remodel going on Once you learn that you don't have to be right and you can just say sorry's or yeah, you're right didn't think about that You need to do this man You may need to have that like little breakthrough. I remember like the first time I realized I could probably tell my dad to just I wouldn't want I would never say to my father fuck off, but like It took me a long time as the oldest kind of just go like yeah, I disagree man Yeah, and it was like I remember that shit. I remember that combo the first time and you're like whoa I could just not do this I could say yeah, I think you're wrong and I'm not doing it I think I'm gonna wait later. Yeah, yeah, cuz I and I don't I don't like I Don't mind that my dad was still in my head to the age that was late I think when you're the oldest is something that definitely happens you too But I might not even have been right about whatever it was and I was it's like yeah, okay cool Don't want to do yep appreciate your concern out like that. I'm not I'm not gonna argue with you anymore I'm not doing what you're asking me you bring up a good point earlier though to about the guilt-tripper thing like they don't they don't He doesn't get any really better in my opinion. They don't it doesn't get any better or worse Like you can say yes or no and do all these things and they're just gonna be the same baseline almost every single time You know like they're exactly if you if you start saying no They're still gonna keep asking and if you do a bunch of this stuff, they're still gonna keep asking so you you just pick What you want to do and it's probably gonna be the same for you no matter what happens God what were you like 12 the first time you're like actually disagree, you know It's just it's different because parents were divorced forever. So I just had two totally different audiences and one that was like Well, what's going on over there? And I'm like, you know what the fuck I'll tell you what's going on over there And then I get all jazzed up to come back and be like well, you know I heard something else actually so that was like that was a little bit tougher when you're split in the week in half You know what I mean? It was it was kind of fucking crazy, honestly, but yeah That's where you get to talk about all that stuff No, I was like the I was like the silent guy banana splits. I don't think I was there that long, but I was I was not sharing They're kids crying in there, man. They're kids crying in there at lunch. Come on That's a lot for you today, man You pulled me out of here for this shit I would definitely have sloppy Joe lunch. It wasn't often. I feel like Well, you're top three lunch School lunch because I got it's right off the bat. I would say real triple-decker real cheese day was never had that That must be some Connecticut piece today I don't know where he's today. Yeah, we had tacos every once in a while I mean, it was like the bare minimum for tacos, but yup. Oh, probably the garlic bread sticks Yeah, I kind of like the corn. It seemed like it was lame to like the the little portion of corn, but I fucked with it I don't think we had sloppy Joe's but anyway You're nine with a sloppy Joe. You're like Marcel Marceau the rest of the day Ring a sloppy Joe season around your face Did I ever tell you guys this to you? I forget if I brought this one. Yeah, what are you talking about? I used to sell my lunches at like at lunch to buy hot lunch I got my mom would make a sandwich. I would sell it for like these locks and buy hot lunch Damn, were you did you not want to be a Bringer? Or did you just you you really appreciated that I'm not a coke? I wasn't really a cold cuts guy Especially like I'm gonna brown back all day like I know I know even to this day I'm about a huge cold cuts guy so I I would just yeah this guy a 250 three bucks and we trade Man, yeah, I think it was like 250 for hot lunch back then right? So I don't know. It just seemed like you were less cool than the hot lunch kids like I would have sometimes I'd bring too And it's like yeah nice a pulverized peanut butter and jelly great nice It's all purple now Even just showing up there, you know with your you sit right down with the bag I don't know just something about it seemed like less cool. I cared too much, you know my parents cared too much You guys are just in the world figuring life out and I got my bag lunch. That's just how I never really put in the words until right now But that's I always felt that way I'm never having a little bag lunch episode when I was really young because My dad was the type to like If we were gonna get peanut butter, we'd have the peanuts ground in the health food store And then it would be in the tub and I'd be like when I go to my friend's house their peanut butter seems to taste away But then this horse shit Maybe in the year that was ahead of his time now that's now that's cool. Yeah, you got to go to the recovery and yeah Don't know open up a bag. I think I just like open my bag up and there was I Don't know if it was gorp. I don't even think it was called that back then and then there was some sort of like homemade peanut butter thing and then like Likely a vegetable or something maybe yogurt. It sucked if you were eight you were like Is there a therapist here? I can talk to you right now So yeah, I know I remember just kind of like opening my bag and I was like staring at it And I was upset and then I remember the teacher coming over and she was like what's wrong Ryan? I was like I just hate my lunch I still remember it's like I hate this. Why do they keep doing this to me? Yeah, it's like I don't I don't like any of these things. We never get anything good Never get any good over there. I'd like rather just buy lunch and that looks like shit too Early 80s hot lunch, forget it. Yeah, so I remember like another teacher came over, you know It's like I'd shit myself with something like hey, let's get a couple people over here Gonna treat this one Deli remember like one of the other teachers being like oh my god You have like that granola or you have that yogurt or oh my god is that is that homemade peanut butter on 12 grain? You know, I remember like looking at her being like you're fucking old of course you think this is cool like I'm eight The kids gonna fucking fruit roll up that one over there is like something Capri Sun I was that from the future. Is that astronaut shit? I was like I got I Fucking water. I want some I want some flavor Oh, man, that is funny. Just look it around. Nobody trade with me. I was like The guy in prison with no cigarettes, you know, just fucking looking around going. Oh, man So I want that to be my life. Yeah Yeah Never forget the other older teacher coming over trying to talk me up just hype you up right What's in that door? Yeah You're the dead shows you want to fucking bring this with you Anyway, all right, that'll do it for life advice. Thanks to serene. Thanks to Tom. Thanks to Kevin and Kyle who I'm gonna Google cosmic bowling. I'm gonna go by myself next week. How's that sound? Check out the bar, dude I think we should start doing that to each other. It's sign each other homework assignments. Not like hey, this will suck Next challenges. Yeah, I thought you were gonna get your next time. We're together. We should do it. We should do a cosmic bowling video All right, don't know how to pull I think I should go by myself and see if I meet anybody make any friends What was the one you had to watch a movie right serruti? Oh, yeah, what was it? I? Didn't watch it feel the dreams, right? Right. Oh, yeah, I feel the dreams. Yeah. Yeah, it was what's feel the dreams. I like know what the movies The under on like 30 minutes before he taps out He's gonna text he's gonna text me in 15 minutes going. Are you serious? Fuck off, right? I could do this on Wednesday. I could do it tonight or tomorrow I don't know sounds like it and it over something sounds like you got wiped out pretty good by that book Or in the clear. All right, sounds good. Thanks again, everybody rhyme or slow show full episodes on Netflix. Please subscribe faster sports [BLANK_AUDIO]

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  1. Fran promotes Abercrombie’s fall collection, highlighting the A&F Sloan Taylor pants and Dylan dress as must-haves, while emphasizing a comfortable, effortless denim and Henley wardrobe as her go-to fall outfit.
  2. The episode features a collaborative bracket breakdown for the College Football Playoff, with both hosts agreeing on Oregon’s strong potential due to roster depth, defensive strength, and schedule advantages, despite concerns over coaching changes and quarterback performance under pressure.
  3. Key debates center on Indiana’s regression after losing key draft picks, USC’s rising potential with new coaching and depth, and the competitiveness of SEC teams like Georgia, Alabama, and LSU, with the hosts acknowledging the role of schedule difficulty and transfer portal impacts in shaping playoff outcomes.

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Fran from Chicks in the Office highlights Abercrombie’s fall lineup, recommending the Sloan Taylor pants and Dylan dress as essential, while advocating for a simple, comfortable denim and Henley look as her everyday fall staple. The episode shifts to a deep dive on College Football Playoff predictions, with Fran and Danny Cannell collaboratively analyzing teams across major conferences. They emphasize Oregon as a top contender due to its balanced roster, strong defense, and favorable schedule, despite concerns about losing coordinators.

Indiana is viewed as a potential playoff underdog due to roster turnover and a challenging schedule, while USC gains traction with new head coach Lincoln Riley and improved depth. The hosts also assess SEC matchups, with Georgia, Texas, and LSU all seen as playoff contenders, citing schedule intensity and defensive weaknesses as key factors. They debate the impact of transfers, quarterback consistency under pressure, and the role of non-conference wins in playoff qualification.

Ultimately, both agree that a nine-and-three team—likely Texas or Ohio State—could enter the playoff, with the selection committee’s human bias toward compelling stories potentially influencing outcomes. The conversation underscores the unpredictability of college football, driven by roster changes, coaching adjustments, and extreme schedule challenges. The episode concludes with a reminder of DraftKings Game Day on September 2nd, featuring exclusive deals and nationwide app access for sports fans.

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