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It must be a little odd for you I am not an American citizen so I don't vote in American elections All my family have done so, but I imagine it's a little odd for you to be here in London on election day Well, that the polls you know, we have early voting in the U.S I was able to vote on Saturday before I came over here A couple of things happen today that I would love to get your reaction to so the president makes an announcement early this morning That he's ending the $3.8 billion of funding to Israel the Israel is now just going to flat out by arms from the United States But we're not going to subsidize them anymore Which was something that we agreed to way back In 1978 during the camp David Accords We had promised to create an economic aid package to both Israel and Egypt to help facilitate that peace And that was an ongoing mission from the United States, but I'm just wondering caddy That's election related to what what's the strategy there? Because he also said that candidates like lsiad and michigan Are using the totem of Israel receiving the aid As a political situation so so you know political football if you will so go ahead. What do you what do you think of all that? I mean this was bizarre election day news Trump said this on Fox News on interview. He said he last spoke to Benjamin Netanyahu last saturday and he said it's because Israel no longer needs it and because as you say people like Accide are using this as what he called a political tool It's certainly true that we've seen Israel's favorability in the US decline precipitously since the attacks of October the 7th and the attacks on Gaza after that And we've seen particularly amongst young Americans Less enthusiasm for America helping Israel in the way that it has done over the decades I'm not surprised that America would move in this direction It's a little odd that it's Trump announcing this because he's had this On again off again cozy relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu He said he'd reached the agreement with Netanyahu on the phone And Netanyahu told an Israeli news channel before Israel's election that the end of us aid was coming So I think everybody's kind of seen the writing on the wall. What struck me is surprising Antony is that he would say this on the morning of these important midterm elections I mean what's I don't see that there's much benefit to him. It's not like suddenly You're going to have a whole load of on-the-fence voters or Republicans who had been thinking of staying at home Suddenly deciding that Israel and Gaza is the issue that's going to drive them to the polls at the last minute So I'm not quite sure why he did this. Maybe he does want to deprive the Democrats in the future of a political talking point But that so a that's an odd way to make such an important foreign policy decision And be there's also going to be Republicans who are friends of Israel's you know that There are a lot of people in the Republican Party who are friends of Israel's who don't like the idea of America cutting off support And it could be a political liability with them So it just he's it sounds like the official reason is he's trying to satisfy one group And risks alienating another group. This was probably bound to happen I know that people in the Middle East have told me you just look at the demographics of America the support for America for Israel Is not there anymore amongst younger America. And so it was going to happen It was just a weird timing to do it on election day. What what did you make of it? Yeah, no, I think he was trying to make a statement here on election day. I think I think that was a That was a boy. He thinks that's going to drive people out to the polls Uh, I think he's trying I think he's trying to take it off the table and Michigan I think it's been used a little late for that. I mean, I understand that. I think but he also had a way he also had a weight for the conclusion of the The election in Israel. I don't think he was ready to to tell that information before because obviously endorse that Yeah, who he didn't want it to be a political football in Israel. So he's he's making it one here What about the 18? I mean, this is the dirty tricks Season right we've got a two Sullivan's on the ballot in Alaska And we've got the governor of Florida Moving polling stations right now. You know there's another trick you go you look at the black neighborhood There were three polling stations the black neighborhoods. They okay Where do the people live? Okay, but the people live over there Okay, well, let's put the polling station Let's call close to with the polling stations and put it way over here So it takes them an hour to get to the polling station and then of course Let's make sure there's not that many polling booths So these people up the way down line six seven eight hours without water To cast their vote. What do you make of all that that 30 trick campaign? Yeah, I mean that That I've seen over the years in American politics. This is not the first time They've also closed 90 polling stations in the Dallas Fort Worth area Oh in previous elections Particularly in Wisconsin and in Michigan. They've shut down polling stations in areas where there are a lot of students So they've taken them off university campuses, which makes it harder for the students to go and vote That this is not new to us politics The numbers of the turnout which are very high And particularly in the early voting as far as we can tell turn out has been very high And has been particularly high in some of the gerrymandered areas Where black candidates have lost their seats That makes you think that actually sometimes when they play these dirty tricks It makes people even more determined To go and vote we saw that in Georgia right remember when it was at a couple of election cycles. I feel like it was 2022 Where they changed the rules in Georgia ahead of those critical Midterm elections during Trump's first term and said you can't hand out water in the lines And you can't hand out food in the lines and actually they had a huge turnout In some of those areas because people don't like having their vote taken away from them So I don't know that it makes much difference I think people who are determined to vote and everything up until now suggest we've got very high levels of voting Have you seen oh We should actually we hadn't when we were on a yesterday antennae we had not listened to Trump's Reflecting pull speech which is one of the more bizarre closing messages I have seen from a candidate ever to spend seven minutes talking about piping And drainage and made the very salient point that drainage is important And I think we were probably both agree with this the official trip us position is that drainage is important It's just a bit of an odd closing message. What did you think of his speech? Well, you know, I don't know people. Do you remember the warm-in-rink? What's the warm-in-rink? Yes, the warm-in-rink was the ice rink in New York City that Donald Trump decided in the 1980s that he was going to renovate and only he could renovate it He actually did get government funding as well to do it But he decided to claim all of the credit for the warm-in-rink and stood up there and said only he was the one He was the only one that could have renovated this rink that had been disused for so long And so in fairness to Trump and obviously he put this story in the order of the deal There had to been two years gone by extensive extensive cost the Lage they couldn't get the rink built He offered to intercede he did put some of his own money in, he got some money from the city, and he took a whole group of contractors, the woman, rink, and in a few months, they had it up and running, and there's a very famous picture of him standing on the ring. It's an outdoor rink. He said it used to really bother him, looking at it from his triplex apartment, that it was under construction for that long. And he tells people that was the springboard into his political success, that he was a private sector person, taking on a public job, using the mechanics of the private sector to get something done. And so in his mind, standing in front of the reflecting pool like he did yesterday, was that message. Okay, but that messaging is dated, Caddy, and that messaging is not resonating. And very few people understand the thread from 40 years ago, the woman rink, to the 2026 renovation of the reflecting pool. But that's what he was trying to do yesterday. He was trying to remind people that, you know, remember the speech in 2016, Cleveland, only I can fix this, only I know better than the rest of you. It's only me. And so he was trying to send that message yesterday. But I'll tell you, not only did it fall flat, Caddy, he looked terrible. He looked tired. Did you think he was tired? I said to you this morning, he was, and let me tell you something, when he looks terrible, he should wear the red hat, not the white hat. And he had the white hat on. And his head was tilted in a certain way, where he was overly leaning on the, on the podium. And I thought he looked absolutely terrible. And I know the guy a long time, that is aggressive burnout, 20 plus campaign stops in 15, 16 days at 80. I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, at 80. And let me tell you something, you know, and let me tell you something, he, you know, you got to, I don't like the messaging. And I certainly wanted to get roasted tonight. And I certainly want there to be a stamping out of MAGA. But if you don't respect at 80, the move that this guy made around the country. I mean, he was saying insane stuff. And he was, I don't think any of the stuff that he was saying was necessarily relevant to these candidates success. If, you know, if somebody like Hustard, who I predict, ends up, or house did, how you say, but if he ends up losing tonight, some of it will relate it to Donald Trump. If he wins, which I think is not likely, it won't be related to Donald Trump. It will be related to the miracle of him in his campaign. You know, so I think Trump on the margin helped very few candidates on the stump over the last three weeks. Do you disagree with that? Do you think he, I think he didn't help the Republican Party in the candidates he chose. And he hasn't helped the Republican Party with his closing message. Focusing on Hustard's ass is not going to help focusing and spending seven minutes on drainage, reflecting pool with all of these charts and these pictures. I mean, it is his obsession. His obsession is the beautification so called of Washington DC. And that's, and you and I both heard from a foreign ally, a leader of a foreign ally, that he doesn't think it's going well, that he actually doesn't think that this is going to be a very good night. So maybe he was thinking, okay, well, if I focus on the reflecting pool and I show them, I've done it and you see, they all said, and he hates it when he's criticized. He's pretty thin-skinned. So when he's criticized for something and he's made a joke of like he was over the reflecting pool, his instinct is to go back and say, no, you see, I'm right. I did fix it. I am right. And I am strong. And I'm the only person that can fix it. It's just that nobody is interested in that argument. Nobody's interested in whether he's the only person that can fix the reflecting pool. On the eve of an incredibly consequential election, where the Republican candidates around the country are trying to say, okay, can we try and do something about the price of gas? Because in the end, that's all this is going to be about. It's going to be, it's, I don't even think this is a referendum on doge, the Iran war. I think it's a factor, but I think if the Iran war had been in and out and over quickly, and gas prices hadn't plummeted because the Straits of Hormuz got shut, then actually people probably would have forgiven him for that. This really is an election that is driven by prices. I mean, it's an ironic, right? Because that is what did Joe Biden in 2024, and that is what is doing Donald Trump in right now. And then it's pretty simple that if you're not talking about that on the eve of the election, you're not talking about the right subject. So there was something that happened this week on the 29th, somebody called into Sean Hannity's radio show. And that's usually a jingoistic, very pro-Trump show. Sean gets out there for three hours and he's a big round in the present. Yeah. And he tells everybody how wonderful the president is, and he's with the, you know, the facts and the statistics that are slanted towards Trump. Somebody called in at the Riot Act related to this. And Sean pushed back aggressively, but, but Cady, that there's ice breaking in the system. You know, the, the, the, uh, the Maga person has left the building. And they're maybe never coming back. And again, I'm not saying they're voting for Al Sayyad. I'm not saying they're voting for Taloriko, but not voting in this election is a way of saying, you know, Maga, you disappointed me. And I'm not showing up to vote for you because you're going to give me more of the same. I can't hold my nose and vote for the other person. And I can't vote for the Democrats, but I'm not voting for you. Do you think a lot of that's happening? Yeah. I think some of that is definitely happening. I mean, if, if you just want to take this snapshot in time, Tuesday, November the 3rd, 2026, and ask, is the Maga experiment making your life better or worse off? Are you, is that famous political questions? The only one that really matters. Are you better off today than you were two years ago or are you worse off today than you were two years ago? I think even most Maga people at this point would say they are worse off today than they were two years ago. Now, they may still love Donald Trump. And so they'll stick with him. But you, I've said this for a while, I think this election is going to see the return of that long lost species, the actual Republican voter who is Republican first, not Trump first. And they've been under a rock and they've been hiding or they've been cowed or they've been wowed by the kind of show. But I think we'll see, this election will start to see people who are Republican first voters. And some of them may stay home. And some of them may say, actually, you know what? In Texas, in the interest of the party, if we elect somebody like Ken Paxton, we're destroying the Republican party. So I'm going to hold my nose and vote for a Democrat or there might be states where they split the ticket. I can see that happening as well. Ohio might be an example of that, for example. But I think we are going to say, I think we're in the beginning. You and I were asked this today is this the beginning of the end of Maga. You think it's the kind of end of the beginning. I actually think if the economy continues like this and unless the Maga experiment delivers for people's daily lives more than it is doing today, then I think we could be this election could mark the beginning of the end of Maga and if the Maga experiment. Okay, but, but Cady, unless we're ending the Iran war, which would certainly drop energy prices, there's no legislation coming. Is there any legislation? Let's say it's a vibe shift. It's a vibe shift as much as it is a legislative. Are the Democrats going to take the house, Cady? You and I are going to go live five a.m. London time midnight in the United States. You are never getting rid of us, guys. We will be with you the whole time. Right, which has been very enjoyable for me. I'm enjoying doing this. It's been very calm. It will be having a nice time. But I'm just saying is that are the Democrats going to take the house, Cady? Yes. I would say the Democrats are going to take the house. Okay, and so even if you have a split situation where the Republicans maintain the Senate, forget about it. There's no chance in any legislation. And all Trump doesn't do things through Congress anyway. He doesn't legislate with Congress. The president would have to say, hey, I made a mistake on the tariffs. I'm rolling those back. By the way, I met with the new Iatola and I cut a deal. The straights open. You know where it's going to cost us money to get the straight open, but we'll probably see a reduction in energy prices. And that would generally improve or uptick the economy and lower the specter of inflation. But other than that, what could they do, Cady, in a gridlock government, in a lame duck session of the American president? This is back to when Barack Obama lost the House and the Senate and the country became ungovernable. And Barack Obama then spent the last two years of his presidency doing more by executive orders. Well, Donald Trump started his presidency by doing things by executive order and ignored Congress all along. But don't underestimate the power of that vibe shift, because I think that could make a difference certainly in how the world sees America, but also just in terms of the confidence of Democrats going into the next election. Okay, we're going to take some questions, guys. We're going to take a quick break and then come back and take your questions. 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Or does he try to interfere? You and I were asked about this today. Do you think he tries to interfere with the result? - I think it's very tough. I think that these are run by state and local authorities as you know, I think he has sufficiently scared the state and local authorities to thinking that the federal government is going to manipulate and/or metal in the elections, of which point the back is up on everybody. He just lost that court case. The Supreme Court told him, sorry, those 20,000 ballots that you're trying to invalidate in California, that's not going to happen. And they didn't even give him a reason, Gatti. It just said, look, it's just not going to happen. And so he knows that he's losing, right? He just knows, right? He's not stupid. We both know that he knows. And we know that he's talking to our friends, telling them what low levels of confidence about what's going to happen today. But for me, I don't see how he, what is he going to do? I declare the elections invalid, you know, if I think there's going to be some fun though up in Alaska. There's two dance solvents, as you know, in Alaska. And let's say the Democrat wins by 1%, but there's 4% of the vote went to one of the dance solvents. We're going to have Holy Hell going on in Alaska. So you're laughing because you know. - Yeah, I know we are. - You know how to smoke. - Right, we're going to have Holy Hell. And the Supreme Court in Alaska is already ruled that both of the dance solvents can run. And in the end in America, it's the states that decide. - Yeah, and by the way, you know, how do you say her name Peltola? How do you say her name? - Peltola. Mary Peltola. - Peltola. Mary Peltola will be the senator if she wins, even if Dan Sullivan, the Compined Dan Sullivan plus Dan Sullivan is more votes than her, she's going to win. - Okay, you know that, and I know that. And that's a dirty trick that the Democrats played. You said to a group of delegates here at our Salt Covers, and it made me laugh under my breath. You were like, for the Democrats to play the righteous party and to literally get caught in the cupboard with the rats, like munching on the shortbread. You know what I mean? - It's not a good look. - Look at those guys over there. You're like, they're in there sharing, they're like munching. I'm shocked that there's gambling going on. I'd say, she'll win that race, right? - Yeah. - Do you think she'll win that race? - I think she'll be there. Okay, here's a great question. You have to answer this. Scottish G is asking serious question. Why is the US so bad at holding elections? It's not just this year. There are always stories of hours long waits. Has it always been that way? It does feel, and listen, I think it is so much better when there is not a big time frame between the vote and the result, because in that time frame is a vacuum in which mischief can be made. And that is when you start getting the disinformation and you start getting the criticisms and you start getting the questions, and we've seen that it would be ideal if we had the vote, and then we had the election. I mean, it's not, you know, other countries have their complications too, when they have the first round, and then they have the runoff. I mean, that's a form of a complication. That's a form of spreading a vote out, but it's because all of the states are responsible for holding their own votes, and they each have their own rules. Florida is not the same as Florida is great. They count very fast. It's not the same as California. It doesn't mean there's mischief, but it looks like mischief. - Well, the first thing I want to say is Scottish G is probably like Ali G, but the guy Scottish, right? So he's obviously crazy, okay? And I'm gonna guess that that is a man who's Scottish G, okay? It's not probably a woman asking the question. Let me just go throw that out there for people. - Why is that not a woman asking a question? - I don't think it's a kind of very, I think it's a really good question. - Okay, Scottish G, please put it in the chat here. Let me know if you're a man or a woman. I'm betting that you are a man, okay? But anyway, Ali G's got, Ali G in Scotland. Let me tell you something, okay? John Anderson, Katty knows who that is, an independent. He ran in the 1980 campaign, Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan. He upset the campaign, Reagan won. Let's keep going. Ralph Nader, he ran, he got funded by Republicans, guys. He ran in the year 2000, and we're old enough to remember the hanging chads in Florida. And without Ralph Nader in, Al Gore would have been the president. Can we keep going, I mean, I can give you one after the other. And I said Jill Stein last night, where Steve Bannon was rifling money to Jill Stein. And those two or three points knocked Hillary Clinton down a peg and allowed Trump to win. So to me, this is going on all over the place. And Scottish G, you may remember in the year 2020, during COVID, there were lines. There were lines out the door in Georgia. And then Brian Kemp, the governor said, yeah, we're going to make the lines longer. And oh, by the way, it is illegal for you to hand a bottle of water to anybody on the line. Okay, so we want you in the line and we want you parched. And we're hoping, and anybody that's gone to a Starbucks knows what a bulk rate is. So my line, and I want the product, and in this case, the product is to vote. But I'm now barking because I've had enough, and I leave the line. And so that's been going on for at least 50 years that I'm aware of, Kat. Yeah, it's also to do the fact that some states, you can count the mail in ballots. The moment the polls open, some states, you can only start counting the mail in ballots after the polls close, some states you can process the ballots, but you can't count them until after the polls close, every state has different rules. It depends on, do you have to have your mail in ballots stamped the day of the election? Does it have to arrive at the processing facility by the day of the election? This is the complication of a federal system where each state almost when it comes to elections acts like it's own little country with its own rules. And that also makes the voting place process takes long. Okay. And this is open. If you're back to Scotty G for a second because he's preferring not to answer, let me just say this to you, Scotty, okay. If you're black in the country. country. And you're in places like Alabama and you're in places like Georgia, you're way not lying in this country, okay. And that's the way it works here. And that's embarrassing for me. But I think we got to be factual. Let's go to the next question. Okay. Open the straight, you crazy bastards is asking. If El Sair turns out to be as extreme on Israel as some fear, will it vindicate Haley Stevens, the same way Chuck Schumer was vindicated over Platinum. Okay, apples and oranges here, guys. Yes, Chuck Schumer did not want Graham Platinum. And that was he wanted Janet Mills, who was the sitting popular governor. But the allegations against Graham Platinum were allegations, particularly around sexual abuse. There was an allegation of rape that was brought forward. That is totally different. There has never been a whisper of anything of anything like that around El Saird. If El Saird's view, Haley Stevens clearly had a difference of opinion with El Saird over Israel. But that is a political and philosophical difference. That is not to do with El Saird's character. I think that's a question here. Is there another question here? Do you think that Susan Collins will make it? I think she will. Do you think she will? Yeah, we've talked about this quite a lot. I actually do think she'll make it. She has a good, Susan Collins calls herself not the Senator of Maine, but the mayor of 50 of 50 different towns or something, or the mayor of 500 small towns. I've mentioned this before. My son lives up in Camden, Maine. Works for a boat building company up there. Susan Collins knows people. She's helped somebody out when their dad needed a place in a retirement home. She's helped people get passports in Maine. I've spoken to people who say, "Oh, I was having trouble accessing X, Y and Z benefits." I contacted the Senator's office and Senator Collins helped me out. The average voting age of somebody in Maine is 52. Women tend to vote more than men. I think she has quite a lot of goodwill amongst women. It may not be her yet. Maybe the end of the road. This is a woman who has been in Congress. I can't even remember the statistics, but an awful long time, about 30 years. It may be that now Maine has decided that's enough. But if they had a more charismatic candidate, they probably would have been. This is another one where candidate quality. It's always so much about candidate quality. The Democratic candidate, Troy Jackson, is not a particularly compelling candidate. You take another one. I feel like the guy could barely fog a mirror at this point. I have no idea what he stands for. I feel like when I watch him in the debate, I can barely listen. She's got the name recognition whether you like it or not and she'll hang on. Of course, she'll be 82 years old. If she gets reelected, Cadi, she'll be 82 years old and then she'll probably want to run again. That's Brennan. That's the iron of the whole thing. Here we go. JD Mayor is asking, "Who are some non-magger Republicans who should lead the party?" I'm going to ask that one because somebody asked me this the other day and I could think of Nikki Haley and the Chris Christie. The problem is that, especially in the Senate, so many of these Republicans have cow-towed to Trump because they were afraid of being primaryed that it's very hard to find a member of the U.S. Congress at the moment who has been independent of the president in a way that is normal in other political cycles. I think it's hard for them now to say, "Actually, we didn't think that was a great idea. They're all on record as wallowing their pride." Can you think of some names there? I mean, David McCormick is going to try to go non-magger, but he's been magger to get himself elected. Federman, Amanda, as a Republican, he may try to go non-magger, but there's no non-magger. I mean, Christie's a non-magger guy at this point, but he's likely not going to be running. Glenn Youngkin, I would say, is a non-magger guy. You'd have to get somebody like Paul Ryan back in the race, which he has absolutely no interest in running. I don't see non-mag. I know you and I did a presentation today where somebody made the point, "Well, it's a personality cult. The cult will extinguish with the personality." But look at the track record of everybody. Everybody's been beating a mega drum alongside of Donald Trump in the marching band. So now, all of a sudden, they're going to go to a different group of sheet music and they'll be able to do that immediately, and no one's going to remember that, and that's going to go over, okay? I just don't see that happening, by the way, for Frozeniro 2010. But he can't, because he's the weathervane. By the way, Frozeniro 2010, we are in the Chancery Rosewood. Caddy, I talked to you from two different hotel rooms, so we're here for the Salt Conference. Yes, this was the former embassy, but it's a five-star hotel right now with great room service. Let's keep going. I wonder what happened in the basement of this embassy and whether people ever got roughed up in the basement embassy. We know where the spa is. Let's just put it this way. It wasn't a spa during the Cold War. That we know. Okay, and for those of you that think I look put together with the suit and tie on, too bad, I'm going back to my Christmas t-shirts, Caddy. Next week, I will be wearing my shirt. We're getting through the election, guys, and then after that, somebody's mentioned Liz Cheney as a non-maga Republican, true. We shouldn't forget Liz Cheney. She was a profile encourage. You think Liz Cheney is going to show up in 2020? I don't think so, no, but I think she is one of those people who did, she is a non-maga Republican, Adam Kimzingo. Liz Cheney could be a king or queen maker. I see her in an elder state's woman role where she could help to designate somebody who is non-maga. Senura Yeti, by the way, I do not have a better room than Antony. I'd just like that to go on the right. Someone's asking that. Yeah, somebody's saying that. Okay, guys, I think it is time to wrap it up because we have a very long day tomorrow. You have a long day tomorrow. We're going to be here 5 a.m. to 8 a.m. UK time. Don't forget to join us on YouTube, subscribe, and then you can follow along with us. We've got lots of great guests coming in. That is 12 a.m. Eastern till 3 a.m. We think we're going to still be getting results, but we hope that we can at least start the show with some sense of which direction it's going. Is it going to be a wave? Is it going to be a big wave? Is it going to be a tsunami? Is it going to be a drip that has everybody, including all of the pollsters, confounded. We will let you know all of that. And also look at what this means America is going to do for the next two years, where this means the country is headed. Make sure you're subscribed to the channel and hit the notification bill so you don't miss the start. 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