Police Stories from Junction Falls | CreepCast

welcome back to creepcast today we're going to be doing something pretty fun we are reading a story from an author named jesse clark uh we read one or two of their stories uh he wrote the this is why i don't do drugs anymore and then what was the police one called isn't or it's just called isn't yeah which both of those were really fun that was a patreon episode so feel free to check out the patreon and check those out the this is why i don't drugs anymore is very funny it's a good story it was a really good story because it was like as the character was getting more high the text started to change and become nonsensical there's one part where hunter was singing like a pastor singing a spiritual come up the stairs yeah it was a really good episode it was good come on upstairs come upstairs come upstairs come upstairs come upstairs stairs stairs ceilings ceilings uh and jesse clark i really liked isn't is it was like a uh like a cosmic horror there's some entity beneath the town that is like the absence of everything very mother horse eyes from the perspective of uh police officers yes chasing like a guy into the sewers and we were like oh my god what's going on he's like what's going on i don't know what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh my god what's going on he's like oh but jesse uh clark these are all publicly available these but these are all the he gave us a document that basically gave uh a complete like basically the complete rest of the universe of the junction falls thing so we thought it'd be cool today just to kind of go over that because we uh we really enjoyed reading his stuff last time when we did it on patreon is it was good he's certainly a skilled author and uh you know me i have a soft spot for like weird small town stuff going weird wacky and whatnot anytime we get we're able to be put uh as readers into uh i don't know like uh an x-files almost feel where it's like i know they're just police officers but police officers checking out weird shit yeah x-files feel yeah i'm always down for that it's always uh it's a very fun uh it's a very fun take on the like monster of the week kind of archetype and i really really enjoy that yeah yeah so i'm i'm excited for this uh i really liked jesse's uh other work that we read uh and to my understanding it's kind of like a not that uh i'm losing it right now what was the story with the fan burger the one we read the series of stories it was gabby i think one of her point pine that's it yeah yeah the point pine series i really enjoyed that one but that one certainly it wasn't comedic it wasn't comedic it wasn't comedic in tone but it was more so kind of goosebumps you know like it was definitely there was like the giant pumpkin monster it was like campy yeah but i knew what it was yeah it understood its tone and it didn't have to be overly comical but it definitely wasn't afraid to like lean into it yes all the all the setups and stuff were very uh yeah goosebumps like you were saying yeah i would say though the thunder junction thing is definitely not i don't think it's gonna be that oh yeah that's what that's what i'm saying i feel like junction falls will it's much more like lovecraft kind of more like straight barrel in tone so i'm excited to see how it plays out yeah i i think doing like a serious horror uh take on basically like police in a town that are also basically glorified monster hunters is yeah kind of fun yeah um and i think that's i don't know we really enjoyed isn't so i'm excited to check this out today but like i said we did both those entries on patreon uh so feel free to sign up to patreon at patreon.com creepcast if you didn't support the channel and also if you're listening to this uh on audio or if you're you know on spotify apple podcast youtube whatever if you could give us a nice rating that would help us out a lot we would appreciate you uh otherwise do you want to read some scary police stories absolutely let's get into it i'm andrew small a police officer in what has to be the weirdest town on earth junction falls here are a few of our strangest cases story one annual mystery screenings at the westbrook drive-in july 15th 2006 was a pretty quiet night right up until around 9 30 then all hell broke loose we got calls from 10 or 12 angry homeowners who all claimed they couldn't sleep because a film was planned at the old westbrook drive-in now that was weird because the westbrook had been closed down and abandoned since the 70s when the multiplex forced it out of business so any screening there was definitely unauthorized when we arrived an old so bad it's good sci-fi horror b-movie from 1956 called it came from mars was playing at full brightness and volume but we never did find anyone at the lot who could have been responsible in fact the only thing there was a red 1950 crossley station wagon also empty sitting in space 21b we figured we'd find who put the car there and started the film later on for now we needed to shut the movie down before all the locals started a riot in their bathrobes and slippers this is where things get even weirder we looked everywhere in the operations booth the old dilapidated concession stands in the crossley and in any nearby trees tall enough to have an unobstructed line of sight to the screen but no sound or projection equipment could be found anywhere within a mile radius of the lot as far as we could tell the film was playing completely on its own luckily the lot plunged back into its natural dark silent state the second the movie finished the crossley wagon vanished too that only left us frustrated and confused after that nothing interesting happened at the westbrook drive-in we got a call from an old so-called mystery screening and it got buried under more pressing work and was eventually forgotten then at exactly 9 30 p.m on july 15 2007 the screening happened again and the same events repeated themselves angry locals empty lot the crossley station wagon in space 21b and an exhaustive but unsuccessful search for the responsible individuals and equipment we were pulling our hair out and it didn't stop there either the next july 15th same thing and it happened again the next year and the one after that and the one after that and every year since july 15 9 30 it came from mars red crossley clockwork as of writing we still have no idea how the film is being shown in the absence of projection or sound equipment but we have discovered some other things about the movie since the case began turns out it came from mars was the misguided passion project of a man named bill booth he financed wrote directed and starred in the film as its protagonist jack burnley booth believed that the film would launch his hollywood career but things never panned out production was plagued with setbacks from the beginning costs ballooned and an actor was injured on set then two other actors and the chief editor quit halfway through forcing an inexperienced booth to cut the film himself something that he had no business doing if the final results any indication when the film was finished booth emptied his family savings paying the westbrook to hold the movie's premiere at 9 30 p.m on july 15 1956 50 years to the minute before the first mystery screening sadly but understandably it came from mars was panned by the few critics who saw the film sadly but understandably it came from mars was panned by the few critics who saw the film then booth's wife left him due to then booth's wife left him due to then booth's wife left him due to their financial situation he attended the their financial situation he attended the their financial situation he attended the official premiere by himself because the official premiere by himself because the official premiere by himself because the cast and crew were too embarrassed to be cast and crew were too embarrassed to be cast and crew were too embarrassed to be associated with it and it never got associated with it and it never got associated with it and it never got enough press to attract a crowd enough press to attract a crowd enough press to attract a crowd humiliated penniless and alone bill humiliated penniless and alone bill humiliated penniless and alone bill booth drove his red 1950 crossley station booth drove his red 1950 crossley station booth drove his red 1950 crossley station wagon to the westbrook wagon to the westbrook wagon to the westbrook parked in space 21b and shot himself in parked in space 21b and shot himself in parked in space 21b and shot himself in the mouth obviously none of this the mouth obviously none of this the mouth obviously none of this explains the physics of how a film can explains the physics of how a film can explains the physics of how a film can play on its own or how an old car can play on its own or how an old car can play on its own or how an old car can appear and vanish the way his crossley appear and vanish the way his crossley appear and vanish the way his crossley does every july 15th does every july 15th does every july 15th so officially the case remains unsolved so officially the case remains unsolved so officially the case remains unsolved but when the above details were first but when the above details were first but when the above details were first reported by the junction falls dispatch reported by the junction falls dispatch reported by the junction falls dispatch in june of 2013 the story of what many in june of 2013 the story of what many in june of 2013 the story of what many assumed to be that of an old assumed to be that of an old assumed to be that of an old filmmaker's ghost caused a sensation filmmaker's ghost caused a sensation filmmaker's ghost caused a sensation and on july 15th 349 people came and and on july 15th 349 people came and and on july 15th 349 people came and joined an empty red 1950 crossley joined an empty red 1950 crossley joined an empty red 1950 crossley station wagon at the old westbrook to station wagon at the old westbrook to station wagon at the old westbrook to watch this stupid tacky low budget watch this stupid tacky low budget watch this stupid tacky low budget wonderful film k status unsolved that's wonderful film k status unsolved that's wonderful film k status unsolved that's fun that's a lot of fun i really like fun that's a lot of fun i really like fun that's a lot of fun i really like that that's a cute uh which also i kind that that's a cute uh which also i kind that that's a cute uh which also i kind of take it back that's very goosebumps of take it back that's very goosebumps of take it back that's very goosebumps but i will say aside from the suicide but i will say aside from the suicide but i will say aside from the suicide yes yeah yeah but the uh yes yeah yeah but the uh yes yeah yeah but the uh i feel like this is just like a weird love i feel like this is just like a weird love i feel like this is just like a weird love letter to like ed wood or something letter to like ed wood or something letter to like ed wood or something where it's like what is it uh where it's like what is it uh where it's like what is it uh invaders from like uh planet 30 let me invaders from like uh planet 30 let me invaders from like uh planet 30 let me see it's like uh see it's like uh see it's like uh because at first i thought they were because at first i thought they were because at first i thought they were talking about uh it came from outer talking about uh it came from outer space but i think this is just a made-up movie yeah assault on precinct 13 which is like notably like they always say it's like one of the worst films ever made or whatever but uh ed wood is just it makes me think of like an ed wood kind of guy who was just like a notoriously horrible filmmaker uh but he made a bunch of b horror films died penniless and a bunch of stuff like that but it seems like if ed wood was to going to come back as a ghost and do a screening uh that's funny and to hit almost like that way now that people watch like rocky horror picture show or like the room people are showing up now to watch this like tacky movie and it's just become a tradition in the town it's a sweet idea at the end that you know people show up yeah watch it i think that's cool but i also like the format of the story where it's just like it's like an old detective describing a case he came across you know and it's plan nine from outer space that's it yeah i've heard of that one before i think because i was gonna say i thought assault on precinct 13 was like an action film i think so and i think it's actually a pretty good movie like that one yeah yeah yeah that awful little b-horror movie assault on precinct 13 it's like that comp it's like that uh campy romance uh no country for old men yeah there's this great line from plan i from outer space i love where it's uh two detectives looking at a graveyard like the worst graveyard like they're all like cardboard headstones it's really funny but he says he's She was killed, murdered, and somebody's responsible. Inspector Clay's dead, murdered, and somebody's responsible. I love that line. So, yeah, I love this format where it's just like a cop talking about cases they went on. Yeah, well, it also makes the procedural feel good because sometimes I think stories do that unintentionally of making it feel almost like a case. But it's fun having a story that it's actually meant. Like, it's purposeful. Yeah, yeah. All right, next story. The Screaming House. There's an abandoned two-story house in North Shelby with a nasty reputation. You see, at random times during the night, you can hear shrill, desperate screams seemingly coming from a woman trapped inside. The first night it happened, the neighbors freaked and the department dispatched a unit to investigate. Would it be too grating if I read this and, like, a thing is the officers were unable? Yeah, it's too much. Yeah, because it feels more procedural. So your, like, regular speaking voice, I think, fits the vibe more. Yeah, the old cop noir isn't quite the feeling. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, is your voice okay? No. I was going to say, your voice almost sounds shot. Yeah. It has been three days of nonstop reading. We've recorded, you know, I was thinking about it while I was on that phone call because as soon as I joined the meeting, they're like, are you sick? And I was thinking about it. I think I've been reading. Ten hours a day for, this is day three. And in between reading, I was screaming earlier for your thing. Fire! I like the, well, do you want to go switch on and on? No, I got it. All right. Because I do like how mine, all I have to do every once in a while is, seriously, Kyle, what's going on? I'm going to get a hang back. So my voice is doing pretty good. No, I'm good. I've timed it out at this rate. I've timed it out. At this rate of decay, I can. By the end, it's going to be. I'll be at the end of the last one. We'll make it. Okay. That Waffle House coffee will revive me, though. You definitely have to save something for the Waffle House. Yeah, I'm not. If there's a scream, or like I got to get really excited. I'll go. That's on you, yeah. All right. Thing is, the officers were unable to find the trapped woman because the screams themselves always seemed to be coming from a part of the house that nobody was in or near. When the screaming came from the master bedroom, the officers charged up the stairs only to find it empty and realized that the screaming can now be heard coming from the kitchen. So they went to the kitchen only to discover that the sounds were now coming up from the cellar. And when they went to the cellar, they realized they could hear it once again, coming from the vicinity of the master bedroom. No matter where in the house they were, the screams were always coming from someplace else. That would piss me off so bad. Imagine living in that house. Like, just, you go downstairs. Oh. Go upstairs. I'd be like, fuck it. I'm done. Whatever. Let her scream. I'm sleeping with earplugs. Yeah, yeah. No wonder the rent was so cheap. Eventually, they called for backup. But even with each room covered by an officer, the team couldn't find the source, isolate the screams, or even reach a consensus as to where they were coming from. The leading official theory, at least in regards to the bouncing sound phenomenon, is that there is some subtle trick of architecture that's wreaking havoc on the acoustics inside the house. But, no one can explain the source of the screams to begin with. No woman has ever been found inside and would never have survived as long as the screams have now lasted anyway. We have no record of anyone dying in that building. The priests have given it all clear as far as occult activity, and the man who built and later sold the house assures us he is as horrified as we are. I love that. I love that. The guy that built it's like, I didn't do that. I didn't put that in there. I was scared as you are right now. I'm horrified. I'm fucking frightened. He insists he did not build the place with any abnormalities that would interfere with the acoustics, let alone with hidden compartments that might have housed a captive woman. Hey, guy, if you find that. Yeah. If you can find her, I'll admit it. Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about. I'll never confess to anything. We were skeptical at first, but his record is clean. His friends and family vouch for him. And he seemed. He seemed genuinely disturbed by the whole affair. Besides, screams didn't begin until years after he left. We had to let him go. The official position of the JFPD, don't go in or near that place. Still makes those sounds, and we're no closer to figuring it out than we were years ago. Status unsolved. If it was never attacking you, and it was one hell of a deal, would you rent it? I feel like that really just kills the vibe. You know? A person screaming? They didn't really say what kind of scream it was, though. Is it anguish, or is it. They kept saying a woman. So, I imagine, like, scream queen, panicked woman screaming, or whatever. Oh, that intense? Okay. Yeah. Like, screams enough that the neighbors are calling and complaining about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would think that. I feel like it's similar to the last story. That's like a ghost looping, like a final moment over and over. So, maybe someone was killed in that house, and that's what the screams are, or something. You know for a fact that if you went to bed in that house, it's going to be in your room screaming. And you're going to be like, dude. I thought it's not where. Go to the fucking basement. But it's not where people are. It's always in another room. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. It's only when you go to bed. That's when it decides to come up and scream, and then you hear, like, footsteps right out of the room. So, that's a creepy idea. Imagine you get used to the screaming, and then you start hearing footsteps, too. It's like. I'd be fine with it. If I became that accustomed to the ethereal screaming, I think I'd hear some footsteps and just be like, fuck off. Added details wouldn't bother you. How many. How. Entity-like. Entity-like does it have to get for you to leave? I mean, if I see. I don't know. I'd have to see. Start touching me. That's when I'd be like, all right, we need to stop that. So, a woman touching you, that's when you bounce? Her picking me up and hurling me down a staircase like a rag doll. What? Which in security cam footage would look extremely funny, but. Guys can't have fun anymore? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, I legitimately wonder, though, would you. It's like. You ever, like, date somebody, and then they, uh. You stay over at their house or whatever, and they're like, oh, fuck, they have a fan on while they sleep. And at first you hate it, but then after a while, you're like, no, I can't sleep without a fan. I think that's how I view it, the screaming. My wife has a sound machine, right? And when we first go. What kind of sounds? It's just, like, a white noise machine. And she has to sleep with it. It's like, you turn it on, it's like. Like a static, almost, sound. It's horrifying. Like a rainfall, almost. I hated it at first. Drove me up a wall. A static? Yeah, it's got some white noise shit. It's not like TV static. Oh, okay. I thought you were saying, say, static, and then you hear someone from the other end be like, oh? Like white noise or something? No, it almost sounds like rainfall or like an air conditioner. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd fuck with that. It drove me crazy at first, because I'm used to sleeping in, like, totally quiet room or whatever. That's how I know someone's a psychopath. When people are like, I need it to be pitch black and I need to sleep in silence, that's how I'm like, you're a psychopath. So as a kid, I would sleep completely quiet room, door open. That's me. Wow. Really? That's how I do it. Yeah, I realize everyone freaks out. Skin lamp, skin lamp. No. But everyone freaks out. No. Come on in! It's because I was more afraid of, because as a kid, like, my parents were down the hall. So it was like, well, I don't want to be in a dark room. Not me, man. I was, we all had the, like, same hallway bedrooms, and mine was the first door. Like, if there's anyone in the house that's going to get picked off first, it's going to be me. That makes sense. I also, I've always had to have a big box fan, an industrial fan that's just blowing on me rapidly. I didn't always like sleeping with a fan, like a ceiling fan or something. Oh, no. Industrial fan. It's like, it's blowing in your face really hard. I cannot sleep without that. Yeah. But my point with the sound machine is, like, now I like the sound machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now if I'm in a totally quiet room, I'm kind of like. That's what I'm saying. A ghoul screaming, I think you would get used to it after a while. A woman screaming like she's being murdered would take a while to get used to, but. It would take a while, but I do think you could do it, especially if it's just, like, you know nothing's wrong, anything. I think that you would legit. You could be right up on my ear. I'm like, breathe harder. You like the, you like the, the stank of her breath. And you're like, hmm, go to sleep. You might have tinnitus, but that'd probably be better. I love your propensity for making things a little bit gross. Which part? For which part? The stank of her breath as you worded it. There's no way ghost breath is good. Exactly. You're like, oh, the way, the way you like incorporated that. Well, you would become cathartic, I think, after a while. Like, it would be a thing where you're like, you enjoy the smell. It's not gross. It's not like you stop. It's like just a little bit gross. I think it's honest. Yeah, for you, yes. I think, I think you find yourself, like, in your art and your stuff, you make everything's a little bit gross, at least. Normally, like, with your caricatures, it's like a lot gross. Okay. It's hurtful. And I'm sorry that I thought that. Also, it would disturb you more. I would actually be more afraid if, scream your face, whatever, and it was like a spearmint. Like, a mouthwash. Because then I'd be like, that fucking ghost is going in my bathroom and taking swigs out of my, out of my Colgate mouthwash or something. And that would fuck me up more. Then I'd be like, well, I'm just losing product. How do I know she's not? not shitting or pissing whatever there goes toilet paper i could have swore i had three more rolls of toilet paper something like that so if anything i've weighed my interest a little bit no i don't know maybe i couldn't do it that's your breaking point the spearmint i think it would cost too much mental it would cost too many questions the spearmint yeah not the screaming woman the fuck was that you see that did that go up your nose yeah i did what the fuck a fly went looked like a fly went straight up his nose did it come out i don't know did that go directly in your nose it looked like it got close i think you might have like it went away at first i think it like went in then out really quick if it was if it was in there you'd know there's no way you have it wasn't a fly it was like i thought it was a fly like a fucking dust particle or something oh like a hair i could have sworn it was a fly it's gonna come out your eye in a second whatever all right next one mr mystery's traveling also how about we fucking turn up the dial a bit the horror i legitimately isn't this isn't doesn't you didn't feel as much like this did it is it was like a mother horse size like there's some entity at the end of everything they've come across well that's what i thought it was cosmic well what the hell is this so far i'm fine with it but i'm just saying after a while let's fucking put the put our foot on the gas it's fun i really like the first one it's because i got well you know it's cute i'm like it's an appetizer i want to get to the entree i've i've i've had the filet mignon i've had the isn't dad wants to taste again yes sir make it happen next story mr mystery's traveling circus and extravaganza sometimes we'll have two cases that end up being connected down the road this time the two cases were one string of disappearances affecting the local homeless population and two reports of and i'm not kidding here a clown who was allegedly trying to lure people into the woods for obvious reasons we took the former case more seriously i like the idea of like it's like they're looking at their case boards and it's like so we got a clown taking people into the woods and all these people are going missing homeless probably not connected just like that well the biggest fictitious thing and you gotta tell this is fiction is that the police would care about the homeless in any way but then a few weeks into these seemingly unrelated investigations a local business owner came by the precinct with the previous night's security footage which showed a stoned homeless man being let off toward the tree line and the police were able to get him out of the house and the police a clown with a ruffled collar skipping happily we're able to trace that vanishing to a small shack in the woods southwest of town inside found all the missing homeless men including the one from the security footage sadly they were all dead and mutilated every one of these guys had been experimented on one man had all four limbs amputated one of each limb could be found sewn to the backs and sides of four other men who had like him died of the resulting infections the last man was intact and then some he'd been injected with various substances ranging from silicone to cement in order to produce warts and bumps and other unsightly abnormalities he found the clown too sometime later he was an unstable lunatic named terry bird claimed he was working on behalf of the ringmaster repressed for further information terry claimed he didn't know the ringmaster's identity but was familiar with his plans turns out the ringmaster simply wanted to host a touring carnival called mr mystery's traveling circus and extravaganza and of course terry explained no good carnival would be complete without a freak show terry got a life sentence without parole and kept up our search for this ringmaster Unfortunately, we never did find the guy. As of this posting, any information on the ringmaster will yield a $5,000 reward. Status partially solved. Perpetrator at large. I like that. It's like, hey, you find this guy that's killing dozens of people. Five grand. How many homeless people do you think work for the circus? Well, if you work for the circus, you're not really homeless because they house you. Yeah, but I think you're still homeless. I wouldn't call the circus the caravan. I wouldn't call that a home. But I think that's why so many people who are homeless get employed by the circus, is what I would assume. I would say that's right. So, I mean, any traveling job like that, that obviously, you know, isn't like a quote-unquote high-level, like, CEO position or whatever. So, are they assuming that Terry Bird also was the one leading the homeless people into the woods and chopping them up? Yeah. Yeah. Because he was the clown, but he's working for the ringmaster. And he was making freaks, essentially, for his freak show. Yeah. Yeah, like cutting people's limbs off, sawing them back together. Some very, what's her name? The New Orleans girl. Yeah, it's like a French name. That girl. That loser. Yeah, that one. Yeah, the loser. She's a bad person. Yeah, the not nice lady that killed like hundreds of slaves. Yeah, it's like that where they are, is it Marie Laveau? No, it's the voodoo lady. I think that's the voodoo lady yeah yeah um because she has the the plot in the cemetery too yes yeah that's right um anyway the wait hold on I got sidetracked on that what was the original question I want to take a moment to thank today's sponsor cash app cash app is here to make earning money fun other debit cards are boring but with cash apps personalization feature I can turn a picture of Jeff the killer slenderman into my everyday card not a hit with the waitress or my wife, but certainly important to me. Cash App is here to work for you, to earn you money so that you can spend money on the things you love. 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Just thinking about triplets, man. Because if you think about it, if you were, if you were pregnant, if you were pregnant by a clown junction, last one. No, last thing, last thing. If you weren't pregnant by a clown, you would have 40 babies because they would be coming out of you like a clown car. Yeah, yeah. That'd be kind of interesting visually. People ask me a lot, like when I meet people, they're like, oh, is Hunter like that off the show too? Yeah, yeah, he is. Whatever you're seeing right now, that is how he is all the time constantly. I'm like a bird, I want to fly away. A few miles east of Junction Falls, near the hiking trails, you'll find an old ghost town called Stanford Springs. God, your voice is grating. No, I'm not. That was a rude thing to say to me. I'll tell you what, it is a horse. It is, I mean, like you want some water? I have water. I've been drinking Red Bull. You've been drinking goddamn Red Bull, but you've had like three white monsters and pink Red Bull. Let me take this one. I haven't really got to read. You want me to read one? Sure. Let me read one. Abigail Jones from Stanford Springs. Ah, my voice must sound like a blanket after having Isaiah's. This is why I didn't want to read it. What is it, the little bundle of steel wool, like Isaiah's steel wool being on your ears? Well, don't worry. Thanks, buddy. Hunter's luscious voice is here to lower by your sleep. The podcast I read on is also your podcast, so if my voice is grating, then that's, you know. You sound like legit my 83-year-old grandma who died of lung cancer because of smoking. That's what you sound like right now. That was a lot of details, but I had to give you that it's horse. Seabiscuit, that's what I'll call you. A few miles east of Junction Falls near the hiking trails, you'll find an old ghost town called Stamford Springs. I like how you say that's what I'll call you as if like you were trying to think of something to call me for years. You weren't the biggest, but you had a big heart. Now I'm no expert on the place. I'm sure rangers and tour guides could fill you in. If you're interested, but from what I understand, it used to be a tiny late 19th century farm community in its heyday with a small general store, a clinic, a church, and a handful of houses. Inside the buildings, you'll see the original furniture, as well as clothes still in closets, toys in the children's rooms, small animal bones in the barns and coops, and various other indications that the town was both lived in and abandoned in a hurry. The furniture is still out there of what caused that. It's eerie and mysterious and totally cool. Mayor Davis makes sure the place is monitored and untouched since it's such a reliable tourist draw during Halloween. Do you have any local places like that? There's got to be something by you. Ghost towns? Oh, yeah. How big are the ghost towns usually? Are they relatively small? Well, so the ghost towns, like if there was, there were some old communities that kind of got emptied out, especially like when the coal mine shut down and stuff like that. But over the years, they've been like, you know, tore down, repurposed stuff. The only like true ghost towns you'll come across, are like. Besides like Chernobyl or something. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean like in Appalachia. Oh, in your area. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. The only like true ones you'll come across are like old ones that were never like a true incorporated town. They were just kind of like little communities up in the mountains. Like not settlers time, but like coal era. Well, I was going to say coal miners used to make like little shanty towns or whatever. Yeah. But then after like they maybe they stopped using the mine, they're just like, well, we're just going to leave the buildings. A lot of them now have been converted into, like historical landmarks to go visit and stuff like that. But there's still a few, and I've come across a couple like out hiking and stuff, that it's like maybe 10 houses and like a little common general store area and stuff that are just totally empty. This so far, just from the tourist trap kind of thing of like, well, it brings in so much money into the community. Reminds me of the Widows Bay Show. You got to check it out, dude. It's very good. He hasn't seen it yet. Oh, not legitimately. You would love it. It's amazing. It's very, very good. But it's a. Essentially like a ghost town kind of thing, trying to become a tourist town. Oh, interesting. So pretty fun. But here's why I'm writing this. Back in 2009, a hiker reported hearing cries and whimpers coming from the backyard of one of those houses there. He called it in, and park rangers found and opened a previously undiscovered cellar beneath the house, in which a little girl had been staying for an indeterminate amount of time. She was dressed in an old gown and absolutely scared to death. Shut back. Lock. Exactly. All right. We'll put our corndog stand. After confirming she was okay, the rangers asked her all the basics. Her name, how she got in there, and where and who her parents were. The girl said her name was Abigail, and her parents owned the house above, and that they put her there and gone back inside to get the rest of the children. On the further questioning, Abigail insisted it was 1884, and that her parents have only been gone for hours. Not well over a hundred years. And keep in mind, this girl is maybe nine or ten, and she's just bawling her eyes out, confused, and so scared she's shaking like a leaf. So either she's a future Oscar winner, putting on a performance of a lifetime for no reason whatsoever, or she is really convinced that she was a resident of Stanford Springs in the 1880s. So they take her down to Junction Falls Medical Center, and she's keeping up the act too, just in all the people and technology mouth agape, and get her tested. No brain damage, no malnutrition, no other disorders of any kind. She's a perfectly healthy nine-year-old, and she just insists that her parents were Thomas and Elizabeth Jones' 19th century shopkeepers. You can probably tell where this is going. The authorities searched for any reports of a missing girl matching Abigail's description and found nothing. No birth certificate, no medical records, no social security number, no relatives. Other folks who caught wind of the situation through the dispatch's report did some research of their own, and you guessed it, there was indeed a Thomas and Elizabeth Jones shopkeepers who lived in Stanford Springs from 1876 to 1884. They had three children, including a daughter named Abigail. We still have no idea what happened to the town. Eventually, they put Abigail, with a child placement agency, and I have no idea what came of her after that, but it's definitely one of the weirdest Junction Falls stories I've ever heard. Status unsolved. What was the, what was the Shelby, was it Shelby, Kansas, or what was the? - The disappearance of Ashley, Kansas. - Of Ashley, Kansas. - Yeah, yeah. - Kind of makes me think of like that vibe. Does she go down, like we're gonna bring the other kids, but while they were trying to do that? - Yeah, they all got like raptured almost, just blinked out of existence. But she, or she got thrown to the future at the same time all that, or, - I guess both, 'cause they disappeared too. - Oh, true, that makes sense. - Yeah. - If she was there though, I'm also wondering too, if like in that state of like being able to like have the fucking whole town zapped or whatever in that motion, did like space and time just fucking like open up and she's just been like, if maybe it felt like an hour to her, but it's been over a hundred years. - Maybe everyone in the town got thrown even further into the future or something, you know? - That's always such a cool concept of, maybe not worldwide, but I do love a town, like a non-discriminate flyover state town where you're like, if it disappeared, no one would know. - Yeah. - But it is such a fascinating, like such a fascinating idea. - Yeah, yeah, I think it's cool. Next story, the day the sun never rose. This one was just weird. A whole day when the sun just didn't come up. Skies were totally clear too, so we couldn't chalk it up to bad weather. By about 9:15 in the morning, everyone was just freaked. I was too, we didn't know what was going on and we didn't get a chance to think it over. Spent the whole day and night trying to stop riots, looting, suicides, and anybody being stupid because they thought the world was ending and they'd always wanted to commit this crime or that crime or pull some reckless stunt just to cross it off their bucket list. Half the town was blasted drunk. People were having sex in the streets. Others were, gosh, it's 9:15 a.m. The town just falling apart. - God, man. Public orgy at fucking 9:15, 9:50 in the morning. Holy shit. That's the fucking wildest cup of coffee you'd ever have in your life. - If I was going to do a public orgy at 9:15, I would do a coffee enema. Have you ever done a coffee enema? - I feel like I just got flash banged. - That's not right. - They're kind of common, aren't they? They're not that uncommon. - You said all of those words in order and that was crazy. I have a friend who did one and he said it was like lovely and whatnot. - I've heard it was. - I'm good. For any kind of enema, I'm good. - If I liked coffee more, I think I'd try it. - That's all that's holding you back? - Well, you know why, the Catch-22- - I don't think you can taste it. - Huh? - I don't think you can taste it. - That's true. Well, I guess, you know, it's not even that. I think what the biggest problem is, the Catch-22 with the coffee enema is you, you stick it up there, you suck it up, you do whatever you got to do. But every time I ever have a cup of coffee, I mean, I am fucking blasting that shit out quick. So if anything- - Well, that's the point. - I thought it was supposed to, I thought, do you have it up there and you just purge it out? - Yeah. - No, you don't. - No, you don't. Well, then you hold it inside yourself for a while. - Maybe like a minute, not like a long time. - I thought that you, is that not what you do? I thought that it- - I don't really, I don't know, but- - 'Cause I thought it goes up, does not go up your, it probably doesn't go up your intestines. That would have made sense. - No, no, gosh, no. It just like cooks all of your like lower intestines. - Harry, Google it. What is it? How long is it in? I thought that you were, I thought that you just- - This is a crazy- - I thought you sipped it up and they basically ziplocked it and you hold it in for a while 'cause then it like, it absorbs it quicker. I mean, it comes out. I thought the whole point was to clear out your GI. - It says caffeinated coffee is put into your colon through the rectum. - Right. - People like to do it to detox their liver. How long? - Quick brief aside from our detective thriller to talk about coffee enemas. - Well, I'm wondering just because then I've always been, I've always wondered because I'm, the biggest part I'm nervous about is when the person is quote unquote, they're done doing the, like the dipstick test, whatever, and they slip it out. I'm worried that it's just, I mean, like SeaWorld splashes up. I mean, that's the point. You're supposed to get it out. So when you're like, whoop, it's just. I mean, maybe you, like, transfer to a toilet or something. Oh, well, it says you should aim to hold a coffee enema for 12 to 15 minutes. Wow. Yeah. Medico protocols caution against holding liquid longer than 15, and if you feel strong cramping or an intense urge sooner, you should release it immediately. That kind of scares me. Well, yeah, it's to clean you out. Why are they having coffee up there? I legitimately thought it was just like, when you got to let it go, you let it go. No. I thought it was hours. No. You can't walk around just full of coffee down there ready to go. I've done the choke and puck walk where you have to take a shit really bad. I've done that for hours. I've held it in for a long time. So I didn't know if it was the same kind of thing. You fill yourself up, and you just kind of like, you do the duck walk. No, no, no, no, no. I want to take a moment to thank today's sponsor, Square, the business platform that helps sellers become neighborhood favorites. Square helps you run your business more smoothly, bringing payments, operations, and insights together in one place. Whether you're gearing up for the busy season or just trying to keep up with everyday demand, Square gives you the tools you need. From payments to point of sale to online orders, inventory, and staffing, it's all in one place. You can focus on your customers instead of your to-do list. You can essentially spend your Sunday with Square. 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Status unsolved, unless you ask Tim Burch, who still insists that his prayers were heard by the devourer of stars, that the whole planet owes him something. It's kind of an awesome idea if Tim Burch really did talk to some eldritch being and just like, fine. And like, okay. It's like, that's it. You just gotta kill the squirrels. You owe me coffee. I feel like they called it the devourer that isn't in the one we read on the Patreon. So maybe there's like a connection there. Maybe it's just like, I mean, clearly that one has. I would assume that there's a thorough line through that. You would think that they're connected. There's something kind of making this town weird. Next up, 109.6 The Edge. Suggestion hour. On April 9th, 2015, we started getting calls from panicked people all over town. Emily Hirsch said she was eating dinner with her husband, Albert, when he left the dining room to take a phone call. A moment later, he was chasing her up the stairs with a knife. We could hear him over the phone, pounding on the locked bedroom door, trying to smash his way inside while she whimpered in the closet. Thing is, he was crying and apologizing profusely while he did it. Meanwhile, Alan Miller claimed he was watching TV when his wife started screaming for help. He ran into the other room and saw her walking upstairs, casually, like she was just going to the bathroom to brush her teeth. And yet, she was crying hysterically. Claiming she was going to jump off the roof. She didn't want to, but she lost control over her legs and couldn't stop herself. Other callers reported similar incidents. Is that funny? Something funny, Hunter? She didn't want to, but she had lost control of her legs and couldn't stop herself. That's just funny. Women committing suicide is funny to you? Well, she couldn't do it because she couldn't, she couldn't, or wait, did she jump off the roof because she lost control of her legs? Yeah. See? That's kind of why I kind of fudged up what I thought of it. I'm laughing at myself misreading that. What did you think happened? I thought she was like, well, I was going to go up on the roof and jump off, but I lost track of my legs and I couldn't get up there. I thought that's what it was. I was going to do it, but you know what? No, my legs don't work, so. Yeah, she stepped on my legs wrong and they're asleep, so. I'll wait till tomorrow. Yeah. Confused, crying people with no control over their bodies, doing or trying to do horrible things despite being fully lucid. We spent the night flying all over town, wrestling would-be killers, killers, jumpers, arsonists, and thieves to the ground. If it was just one guy who shot his wife and claimed the devil made him do it, we'd arrest the bastard and throw away the key. But when multiple people you know personally from all over town with no prior history of arrest or psychotic episodes are fully lucid, apologetic, scared out of their minds, and yet moments away from shooting the cashier at the Kwik-E-Mart all at the same time? Well, simply no precedent or protocol for that whatsoever. We managed to get most of the almost criminals under control, but couldn't get everyone. Sadly, despite our best efforts, there were six murders, two suicides, nine car crashes, 14 fires, and almost 20 injuries in the span of just two hours. It was the most violent single night Junction Falls had endured since that crazy vampirism outbreak of 2012. Luckily, it didn't take long to figure out what had happened. Everybody we'd arrested explained that they received a random phone call from Freddie Pallant, a disc jockey who ran 109.6 The Edge, Junction Falls' classic rock radio station. You see, every weeknight at 7 p.m., Freddie hosted Suggestion Hour. Listeners would call in with Rolling Stones or Pink Floyd deep cuts they'd like to hear. But on April 9th, 2015, Suggestion Hour took on a sinister new meaning. This time, Freddie was the one making the phone calls and the suggestions. Listeners of the program that night all expressed being horrified as Freddie called one unsuspecting victim after another, suggesting that they'd kill their spouse, take their own life, rob a store, run over their neighbor's dog, or commit some other obscene crime. When we brought Freddie in for questioning, he was inconsolable. He denied nothing, but he did tell us his side of the story. The Edge had been bleeding listeners for years, he explained. Desperation. He reached out to a witch and asked, My radio station's not doing that hot. I'll call it a day. I'll call a witch, I'll call a radio witch. you good are you looking up coffee enemas over there man I stumbled onto a thing about people getting rectal burns from the coffee enema being too hot does that not look like white people are putting does that not look like fucking Freddie Mercury's face oh my gosh oh that's rough god damn why would you do hot coffee you want it to be room temp you want it to be body temp so it's still saying like 98 degrees to 100 god damn really that's when I was like wait a minute no I'm good you want it to be I'm good from all of it I'm really good from that okay honey 100 you're supposed to do this with like a healthcare professional right no man there's home kits yeah there are home kits I've been seeing a bunch of shit of just people it looks like just diarrhea water but it's people like taking pictures of like the coffee after in the toilet god damn man I don't know if you're I mean has Folgers or any of these guys hopped on this shit cause that would be the perfect thing Folgers enema I don't think Folgers needs the best part of waking up is coffee enema can you imagine you're sitting there and a woman cause you know the commercial is always the thing of them they take off the top and then they sit there and they smell like the and they take a drink whatever can you imagine it's like a woman doing the exact same thing except the hairy ass legs is her husband and she goes up to his ass it's Folgers in your ass actually fucking delete that because that was the most fucking like cringe millennial thing I could have ever fucking said and I'm if I didn't lose sleep of my legs and I would take up I'd get up on the fucking roof and I'd kill myself it was un-fucking-real you're gonna save this for me no we're fucking Folgers in my ass I did this I do think that we should make a Folgers coffee enema commercial the best part of waking up is Folgers in your ass what the fuck does that how do you not do that with how popular it is how do you not do that how popular it is enemas are fucking hot it's a hot commodity what yeah where are you who are you talking to dude I've heard I know one guy who told me he did it once and I'm like that's all I've ever heard that did enemas because she had ulcerative colitis but I haven't I shouldn't do coffee I haven't met anyone that's I know no I was talking to a guy in a hotel one time he's like and I sat there and I like I was talking to some guy like some lobby bar one time and he's like oh yeah started up late he was he had the at home kit in the hotel he's like I never I do it every morning that guy has a fetish clearly that can't be he wants to get cleaned out every morning every morning what's going on with did he say he needed it like medically why do you work out every morning that's like a drug addiction at that point there's probably a caffeine element to it that guy's got like a fixation but I don't think that you can get a I don't think you can get a fucking ice I don't think you can get a macchiato anymore I think that you're gonna have to get a hard black folder's cup of coffee I've known a couple people who have had like constipation issues and had to have a doctor give them an enema have you ever had constipation not like not like medical constipation maybe like a two days that's what bought you out cheese no honestly just like being if I'm like outside hiking and camping I do it way less I think it's just because it's like it's so much more inconvenient I have like a mental block or whatever but it's not it's like as soon as I get home it's fine man I'm so glad I've never had it I've never had that oh it's gotta be rough it has to be rough man I've had a buddy who's had it happen to him like twice like medically where unreal having to get like stool softeners and all that stuff fuck brutal yeah that's a rough one I think we've spent 10 minutes of the run time discussing enemas and pooping and all that there's gonna be people in the comment section or people who are listening to this who are just like I do enemas all the time and they say like their life has benefited greatly from it you know what good for you actually how about this people say the same thing to me about crystal meth let me see well well enemas don't affect your teeth the uh what about the what would you who would you rather be friends with a guy who does coffee enemas every day or the cold plunge guy I'm gonna tell you right now I'm going with the coffee and I'm a guy cold plunge guy yeah the guy's just like every morning man five minutes every morning and they're at the cold plunge thing I just want to say that I've been doing the you know like I have friends who have done that for a while and I'm like why are you stupid they say there's they say there's a lot of benefits to it I'm sure there's circulation all kinds of stuff I'm sure there are but I would say cold plunge guy because like the guy laying on his back with the IV bag of coffee hanging on the doorknob your fixations are so fascinating to me they're always so you know what man this is a conversation this is a two-way road I really don't want it to be I'm a quarter of the way I say I have will you at least say who you'd be friends with more the cold plunge guy in desperation he reached out to a witch and asked for help getting the station noticed again I suppose he should have worded the request more carefully according to him she performed a ritual and someone else took over Freddy's body the night of the incident he was as horrified and out of control as as many victims as he placed one call after another the thing inside him that night somehow knew exactly what numbers to dial as well as the names and details of everyone in the house is on the other end crazy thing is we had to let Freddy go even if he was somewhat responsible simply telling someone to do something illegal doesn't make you responsible for their crime they decided to go through with it and besides the events of the evening made it clear he wasn't making anything up he did into his radio program though and left town for the same week I'm not sure what became of him after that but the sheer amount of damage and the lack of a count of accountability in this case still makes my blood boil anyway these calls if you know of any witches in town some of them do in fact deserve to burn at the stake status partially solved I do want to say imagine getting imagine getting fired because you contacted a witch that's kind of plot that that kind of makes sense though if you sat there and someone's just like yeah that kind of makes sense like if Harry came up to us and he's like I wanted to make the show better I hired a witch and he like she's here now I'd be like you're gone me I'm gone or the witch is gone you're gone but both both are gone we might we might we might keep the witch run a witch well like not not not like a goth girl from hot topic I'm talking like a animal bones and what is she just gonna be on set for 20 minutes or I have feeling she's like looking through her I don't know like download tax documents and stuff you're like what are you what are you doing trying to find any discrepancies yeah if throwing it all into a no it's worse than contacting a witch the IRS that is true well that's true well that is that that's the the biggest covenant in America yeah if I had um so like I mean I'm a I I have like I guess you could say superstitious or supernatural beliefs around Christianity but most stuff it's like yeah which whatever blah blah blah but I'm just superstitious enough that if like a honest to God witch showed up and was just like hovering around me I'd be like okay yeah I don't know if I believe in any of it but I do think there's something about something kind of uncanny to me when someone like is genuinely doing rituals and stuff and they're trying to like will something to me there's like I'm like I don't know if I want to cross I bury it with this person it's like it's like yeah I may not believe in the way you're doing and stuff but I feel like if you're looking that hard you might run into something you know who knows I don't know I don't want to mess with it yeah I'm from the Midwest enough to where I'm just like hey I don't want to I'm all right I'm good I'm good actually no thank you the sewers you expect the sewer system of a town this size to have a handful of tunnels pipes and pump stations but as you're well aware by now you rarely get what you expect in Junction Falls the sewer system here more closely resembles the catacombs of Paris or Odessa than any normal Network they're a labyrinth of tunnels that plunge deep into the earth and stretch on for miles and miles and miles twisting and turning and circling back around and getting hopelessly tangled it's a far far larger Network that would even be remotely necessary to accommodate a town this size and makes no sense at all from an engineering perspective well let me back up describing the sewers is too large is actually misleading because space appears to operate differently beneath the surface of Junction Falls one time we pulled some favors with the feds and got a modified bomb disposal robot we equipped it with the GPS and an FPV camera and then sent it into the sewers to see how just how long one single tunnel was we drove it in shifts and made sure it only moved in a straight line no turns it took until well into the next day before the batteries died there was no indication that it was anywhere near the end of that tunnel that was just one tunnel here's where it gets even crazier when we remotely check the GPS and we confirm this with every tool we had it indicated that the little bot was only about half a mile away beneath the parking lot of Tim's discount hardware off exit 17. that's when we learned that in Junction Falls sewer space and surface space are completely independent of each other we've tried to calculate how one might convert to the other but the more you try to apply logic the less sense it makes a mile in one is either three feet or ten miles in the other don't ask me to explain any of this i'm just a cop next question you might ask is who built the sewers and for what purpose the real question should be who's continuing to build them we began to suspect a long time ago that sewers were constantly expanding but this wasn't proven until 2014 when sergeant mcdaniels stumbled on a dead end in the tunnels that was filled with all sorts of seemingly abandoned excavation equipment he marked the area and left to go get some backup when he returned with a small team less than an hour later the excavation equipment was gone but a whole new sewer chamber had formed so the answer is the sewers seem to be building themselves that was when we came to the only conclusion that makes any sense even though it makes no sense at all junction falls sewers appear to be some kind of living organism that expands through the earth like slime mold that's sick that's really a sewer system that is like actively being made almost like organic material it's like a a never-ending uh expansion of like intestines or something that would be sweet yeah have you heard of like the the tokyo slime old stuff no so there was uh so slime molds are like and like fungi like that are which i know they're too different technically but they are incredibly like uh efficient and how they grow and stuff like that um and it was i want to use the slime molds or mycelial network work i feel like it was a slime mold they had like a layout of the japanese system and uh these architects had taken a slime mold or the art they took the architect's plans and researchers took a slime mold and they like put blocks where all of the infrastructure was they couldn't touch and then they put like food sources for the slime and the places that they needed the subway system to connect so it would purposely grow there so it would purposely grow there and the network the slime mold made was more efficient and shorter than the architect's plans for like the subway systems and stuff like that it's like incredibly efficient at like making perfect paths everywhere and stuff like that i don't know why but when i was a child oh boy no this is this you might actually relate to this okay my grandparents had an old pc and on that pc had a game built into it called pipe dream have you heard of this you might actually be too young i don't know this is like an old thing because everyone kind of knows the old skiing game and then the yeti would like pop out and grab you have you remember that one i never played it but i remember hearing about so on the same kind of machine besides like galaxy pinball because i was on pcs i remember playing galaxy pinball yeah but there was a game called pipe dream and it was like just i mean like essentially like you had you had to build enough time to basically put the correct parts to where the the goo or whatever would go like a tetris a bit it's like a puzzle solving game but anyways that was always like i don't know why that was like another very early inspiration to me but i always imagined that the that the like goo or whatever in that was like a toxic like bile or waste or something or organic matter it like had a lot more of a horrifying feel to it i don't know why i've always wanted wondered if people had the same kind of feeling or if it's just like oh it's just goop but i remember when i was younger pipe dream always felt like almost like a horror game to me it's called pipe dream yeah because even the sound of the of the uh even the sound of the goo or whatever going through the uh pipes it was it's it had it it was kind of scary man oh interesting yeah this looks like an old mind sweeper kind of thing it was just a thing where you would do this and like the goo would go through and you had like click the correct parts and move them around and then have it get out correctly i'm pretty sure it had a sound and you would like bash the pipes and like if you needed a new one it'd be like i don't know why it scared the i mean when i was younger interesting i mean scared it wasn't uh but it was just made you uneasy it's like the the tension of being like we gotta go we gotta go because it's like timed because it's getting closer yeah but anyways this has made me think of pipe dream i remember there was one i used to play on my aunt's computer all the time it was there would it was almost like uh what's the game where you bounce the ball and you have to catch it to keep it breaking blocks you know what i'm talking about does it catch it yeah well it's like you it's all you know how pong you would control the thing and it would catch like the ball so it's like that but you're trying to go up and break these block structures oh yeah yeah yeah and it's you're like it bounces off the thing yeah there was a game like that but it was 3d and you were behind the like the the bar basically that you're trying to hit and it looked like a spaceship and you were going side to side trying to bounce stuff back forward but because it was 3d instead of you breaking like a flat plane of 2d blocks the blocks would be built shapes of things it's like maybe a pyramid or like a building and as you broke a block that line of blocks would fall down you'd have to like you know you get combos eliminate stuff like that and i remember playing it on her pc and i remember kind of like you said not scared but like i'd get really uneasy sometimes because where it was such an old game and you know the tech was low and stuff like that they would have some where like the background around the stage you're playing would look like a void almost like a nebula and the stars it's weird how games like that can i don't know when you're younger it can take on a like a very creepy tone for whatever reason but yeah i think about that a lot because it's either like it's the subtleties like you're saying the black void in the background yeah or even like i don't know the looming threat of like i don't know it's all sounds too the sound effects yes there there was a few of those early like playstation one games i remember playing that would just fill me with kind of like a weird like i remember there was this jet steam game i played a lot i think it's called jet mo not jet moto that was ps2 there's an old jet ski game on the ps1 um and there would be courses like on the ocean you would go through and if you got off track it was just like infinite ocean um there's that's kind of up but it was like the texture for the ocean was like a repeating like jpeg what the surface looked like and the sky was just a skybox so it's like if you're driving it's like nothing's moving your character is probably literally resetting yeah yeah like yeah like it's completely nothing's happening but it's like the forever is right there you know yeah i even remember a concept of that like you're just you have your ps1 controller just like this the forever the void the infinite and there's one people because i've tried to look up that game before and there's another jet ski game where like a giant octopus arm would come up and slap you back or whatever this is your bend drown dude dude there's some there's some i don't have there's a few games that i distinctly remember moments from that were like for whatever reason they buried deep inside your conscious yeah yeah sometimes i'll have like i'll have memories like i'll just be walking around one day and be like oh yeah july 17th 2006 around hitting your face there was um i remember when i played the playstation 2 my dad bought me a fishing game it's like a bass pro shop fishing game or something like that and when you threw the bait in the water you would get like an underwater camera of your bait and stuff like that normally you're fishing and you're in like creeks and like stuff like that but i remember there's this one like a dam you could go to where the water was deep and you would throw the bait in and it would just be nothing like it's just complete open waters or whatever as just swimming and then as holding your controller or or the uh fishing pole control that used to be back in the day the guys just kept from the murkiness of the water well if a fish saw it it would like a rise out of the void but what would really freak me out is sometimes you would get a fish that was behind the camera and you wouldn't know it until it bites it so you would see it and then for like three frames the entire screen would be like a fish's head and then it bites it in the normal animation goes but i got so scared i'm like about it it's about to happen it's about to happen any second now it's about to happen i was watching a little cousin of mine and uh he was he was playing the ps2 and he's playing cabela's most dangerous hunt and he sat there and i was like you have to shoot the bear whatever he's like i don't want to shoot the bear and i'm like you have to shoot him and he ran away and the bear chased him killed him and my cousin was like i was like god give me that controller but he's like why did the bear attack me and i'm like never ever go i was like remind me never take you camping you're gonna kill us you're gonna kill all of us hold on i think i found was it called breakout that's what it was my friend had a fishing game when he was younger he used to piss me off so much because the cover was so and stupid he was one of those kids you go to his house he's like a deeply religious kid he's one of those kids where it's like yeah my family doesn't let me play t or m games but i have all these e games he's like a nintendo kid and you're like oh god here we go he used to bust this game out finney oh that's an annoying cover oh my god and he was like you wanna play finney and i remember i would like take out my my razor my my razor text mom be like get me pressing through all the buttons one at a time yeah doing the t9 whatever uh wait yeah yeah yeah here it is so it would look like you would have levels like this where you have to break it down but like that background behind it would just like float and it'd be real weird music like atmospheric whatever yeah so when i'm like like six or seven it's like yeah you're developing brain as well yeah we're just like everyone hates you everyone hates you what is infinity what am i what is yeah what is nothing less look like yeah i was you could tell all the other kids really liked me and i was really popular i definitely wasn't a weird freak anyway junction falls what in the fuck is this co-caught fishing master who the fuck is this little demon this big ass fish dude my boy co-caught i bet co-caught lays pipe do you uh do you remember a jack in the pout jack and daxter uh jack and daxter yeah there was one legend of the precursor something like that you're it had some subtitle like that like legend of the whatever anyway the game starts and you're on an island and if you swim out to the water a heartbeat starts playing really fast you're on an island and if you swim out to the water a heartbeat starts playing really fast goes like i don't like that and then a giant fish comes up and eats you anyway i'll answer all of your remaining questions about how and why the sewers work the way they do with an i don't know let's get some specific things and cases involving them the door an old wooden door built into the side of the tunnel all we know about it definitively is that it never was in the same place twice and that those who enter it tend to vanish without a trace we've only found a single person believed to have vanished through the door years after it happened there wasn't much left of her sadly she had starved to death in a tunnel that was at least 50 sewer miles away from her last known location case it's not obvious never ever entered the door can you imagine being stuck in the dark in a fucking never ending sewer system fuck that i've talked uh i've talked on here about lost tapes right i feel like we have there's one episode called the lizard man that was about the cryptid lizard man or whatever but the found footage can was about these guys going down into the sewers and like lost tapes would freak me out so bad granted i was like eight or nine yeah yeah it would freak me out so bad uh that i would like i would watch an episode and be like couldn't sleep for two weeks and i'd be like time for the next episode i just love scaring myself for some reason for the next episode i loved putting myself into a trance where i i mean look where i am now uh but i love putting myself into a trance where i'm like i'm miserable and then as soon as i was over it i'm like again oh that was horrible yeah uh i remember the lizard man one the whole thing it's like them walk around they see like a dead rad and like someone writes like the lizard man it's real it's like in hindsight it's like very cheesy schlock yeah whatever um but it's the first you've ever seen yes yeah i mean it's so real the with him what's going on um and at the end of the episode like the guy's by himself or whatever and he turns and it's like it's like a junction at a sewer system and it's like so dark you can't see beyond and he takes a step forward and then like like a seven foot tall green scaly dude like like a huge roaring noise comes around the corner he's like oh that starts running or whatever dude i remember oh oh just my soul leaving my body and i remember for a while after that like tunnels would freak me out because i'd be like if i was you know you're that young girl who's in the car with your dad or your mom or something and i would be like good thing dad's here because this tunnel this tunnel is kind of creepy it's kind of a scary tunnel pipe town a tent city in a cavernous sewer chamber that was built by and for the city's disproportionately large population of addicts vagabonds and at-large criminals pipe town has all the cozy trappings of a third world back alley slum tents and shacks cardboard huts drum barrel fires human waste illegal gambling and prostitution rings arms trafficking and so so so many drugs and related paraphernalia it's a lawless filthy dystopian swamp and it's one of the saddest things i've ever seen a large percentage of sewer-related disappearances involve pipe town and the ne'er-do-wells who live there the dog man don't like that a naked caucasian man with the head of a pointer dog he seems harmless and doesn't seem to do much other than sit stare and prance around on all fours please don't try to feed or interact with the dog man it seems to be getting along fine without us the clock room literally just a room full of clocks and other timekeeping devices cuckoo clocks standard wall clocks wristwatches egg timers digital alarm clocks even a gorgeous old grandfather clock in the corner the room is too far from the nearest sewer access point to be easily explained as to where some above-ground clock enthusiasts stash their collection either still have no idea what to make of this one i love that one i love really weird obscure thing like down in the sewer there's just a room of clocks for no reason i like the weird unexplainable nature of stuff like that yeah well yeah and especially i don't know i feel like you and clocks anyways i think you're a big clock guy even the story you read the story you read involved a clock right or the story you wrote sorry at the event with the hoarder house right uh i think she had a clock like a big old clock but that was more so just she collected everything okay i would say my i won't describe myself as a huge clock guy i'm more so just like the idea of like the unexplainable like i mean what do you how do you start to make sense of that yeah full of clocks in a sewer i just like how weird it is then finally sewer granny a smiling old woman in the sewers who politely asks you to come keep her company she seems friendly enough other than the fact that she's a weirdo in the sewers however this is a ruse sewer granny appears to be an evil spirit taking the form of an old woman we're not sure what it wants or why it only beckons doesn't approach luckily if you ignore it long enough it'll vanish it's also a fun one some interesting like urban legend lore that's it that's that's all the junction fall story that's the junction fall stuff yeah um which to be fair the isn't one i think is like i think that's the strongest yeah i think that it's uh i think that's definitely like the creepiest in terms of like the lovecraftian creature these were a lot more and i at the top i was just thinking that because the isn't was such the opposite way it really was more of like a uh point pine kind of thing which i don't hate i mean like i'm glad that at least stuck with it versus going back and forth whatever though i will say if this ever got expanded into something longer or something like crazier doing a whole thing on like a creature um or like something where it's like an infrastructure or somebody's like yeah the sewer system's getting fucked up at my house or whatever and it's like actually an organism that is growing or expanding some kind of thing that's eating people's waste or something would be pretty fucking sick i feel like isn't that isn't that in something well i mean i was gonna say i always talk about final prayer of borderlands but i was like i kept thinking like if it was like some kind of like fucking giant evil demonic thing underground that would be kind of sick and you're just like walking into its gut yeah i didn't want to bring it i bring it up so much well i mean it's so cool i bring up house of leaves so much because it's so cool you know there's no problem with that i love final prayer it's so cool um but yeah i really like all this i would agree i think isn't the strongest but that also just kind of appeals to my whole like real nebulous weird stuff out there which isn't was about something they found down in the sewers um i um i i think too it's nice having stories like this where it is little vignettes i know we don't have any vignettes in the sewers um but yeah it's nice having stories like this where it is like one thing that i do think after like i like i like getting these bite-sized fun creative ideas but i do yearn for the longer straight through stories and like getting to understand like that's like one thing too that i love with uh i don't know like cop stories or anything is the dynamic between the partner and like the partners yeah yeah you know getting to learn a little bit more about that or how their job affects their regular life because at this point it kind of seems like the town is just kind of used to it thunder junction is just kind of like yeah that's kind of there's just weird shit that happens here which once again not to give another huge shout out but widow's bay is i think toes that line very well and widow's bay does a great job and i would recommend it but it's a it toes that line of horror and comedy in a really great way where you can kind of tell what who on the island really thinks that this shit's real and whoever else is like oh that's just people babble on it's just like superstitions or urban legends or something like that which i think is a fun way to approach that but yeah i don't know i mean it would be cool this in itself i was thinking about while we were reading it this one would be a fun visual like this story would be would do i think would fare well as like a youtube like like you know mandela cataloger i mean i don't know just something like that i think it would it would serve really well as like little vignettes if someone did take time to do is there any kind of visual medium like that or like a visual uh like a video of some kind series that revolves around like a fake cop force and like doing stuff um well there's the mandela catalog um but that's not is that all from the perspective of a police officer after i'd say part three yes well it goes back and forth but uh detective thatcher is one of the protagonists it would be cool if it was like that fucking jake gyllenhaal movie end of watch yeah it was all just body cam footage and you got to like experience some of the shit like that and it's like almost like undisclosed files like if you did if it took the same uh if it did the same uh the same thing that the poughkeepsie tapes did where it's like people being like yeah we found all these things and then we're like oh my god we're like oh my god we're like oh my god we're like oh these fucking tapes and it was crazy and you're almost watching it like it is the police showing you evidence that they wouldn't want to show you that'd be kind of fun. I almost feel like there is one that's escaping my mind right now. Urban Spook. Classic. Fan favorite. That's from the police. I feel like there is one that does that. The one that, depending on when this comes out, maybe cut this, but the one I'm writing right now to shoot, that's a police thing. There you go. Fill in the gap then. But I feel like there is one that I'm losing right now that focuses on a police investigation, like an ARG, horror project, something or other. But Mandela Catalog is the main one that comes to mind because most of it's told through the Mandela County Police Department, like their PSAs and stuff like that, which you still haven't seen the Mandela Catalog, have you? No, I haven't seen it. Yeah. I really love it. I know of it, though. I mean, I know that just from you talking about it or even just other stuff I remember like Senor Palo did. We should do that for Creep TV itself. At some point. Because I always like going back and revisiting it. Is it a done? No, I mean, he's still adding episodes, but the episodes take long enough. There's like months and months between them and things like that. But I'm so nostalgic with it because I covered the series after only four were out, four or five were out. Me and Alex became friends and stuff. So it's really cool for me to go back and know where it is now and be like, wow, just like hit watching. Because the first one he made entirely on his iPhone. He just like did like weird. Vogue coding and stuff like that himself and like got all the images and assembled them, put a VHS filter over it. And now, as you know, making a movie with Spielberg. So it's cool to see the progression and stuff. But I really like the premise of the Mandela catalog where you have like small town in front of something completely supernatural and trying to make sense of it. I just think it's a cool set up for stories. Do you think Spielberg eats like hard candies when they talk? Like an old man? Isn't, isn't, isn't. No, I think he basically, he's like, he's like, you want to watch his original? He's like, no, it's okay. He's like, yeah, I help myself. Rolls around his teeth. It's clank run. It's spooky what you do. You know that, right? Also, Spielberg's not one of those old guys who holds his, the waistline of his pants don't go past his navel, does it? I mean, probably not. I don't know. I'd love to see. I'd love to hear. I would love to ask him. What is the oldest man? Thing he's done on a call. Do you think he's met him? Do you think they'd legally let him meet him? Thank you. They legally let him meet him. I bet you there's a contract. I'm sure they talked. I bet you there's a contract where it's like on the zoom call. You cannot look at Spielberg in the eyes. It's like the fucking Gorgon head. It's like a Medusa. He kissed her sitting there on the zoom call. Yeah, I'm pretty excited to be. It just turns into stone right there. We look at Spielberg. Get me another one. That's an old person thing too on zoom. He's sitting there. Eating hard candies. Those fucking hard candies where there's the wrapper is the strawberry. You know, that's the oldest person candy ever. My grandmother used to give me those all the time. Yeah, rolling around in the mouth. They're like, it's just so loud. He's like, oh, God. Hey, Steve, you want to mute your mic? How about his grandkids told about Mandata catalog? Grandpa. What? He's probably not that abrasive. There's this really scary horror series. He's like, huh? Adjust his glasses. What the hell is this? The devil overthrew the reign of heaven. What is it? I like to actually imagine. I think Steve's bill. I think he has a very short fuse. Has he talked to him? Why are you answering me? I mean, you're just. When you get in these states, it's best to just let it play out. But has he? Well, has he talked to him? I think I'm sure he has. I haven't asked him directly. Would you like me to ask him? Yeah, ask him. Say, have you met Steven Spielberg in person? And then also follow up question. If you feel comfortable with too much of a coward to ask him is if he did meet him in person. How big was his old man? Moose knuckle. That was definitely in between his legs because every old man has it. Every old man. There's so many times where I thought that an old person is wearing a diaper. And it just turns out it's just like the sag and folds of skin. I can't wait for someone from his side to see this and call Alex and be like, we're not doing the movie anymore. Why? Because what? They know about Steven Spielberg's. They know about Steven Spielberg's moose knuckle. What was the question you wanted? Whoa. Has he talked to him in person? Have you met Steven Spielberg in person? Hunter. Did he eat Worsher Originals whenever he did that? You want a coffee? No, it's okay. I forgot. Your generation doesn't drink. Coffee. Alka-Seltzer and water, whatever. It takes the tablet. Bad heartburn. Pound six cups of coffee right there. Okay. Let's get started. Questions out. So we'll see what he says. Steven Spielberg. That'd be cool. What would be the first thing you ask Steven Spielberg? Also, this series is good. I was going to say about the series. So I looked up the Reddit story. And there is another part in here at the end of the, um, um, sewer part where it's listing all the stuff and it's called the stalker room or the stalker stash. Did you want to read it? When we can, you want, it's not like you want it to, do you think he'd have a reason for not, he didn't include it. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't want it. I mean, I'm scrolling through it. It's about like a stalker who takes pictures of people. Steven Spielberg. I'm not condoning that. You're my new little shark. The structure of it's a little different too, because it talks about in the final one, like they came across the series cause they chased a guy down there. So it's like set up a little bit different here. We'll say this. If you want to see a different version of the police stories where it looks like some things change in other parts at it, it's not the version he sent us, but still up on the Reddit. So you can go to his Reddit account, the Jesse Clark and the stories posted as police stories from the world's strangest town. There's a couple other things. There's a couple other little vignettes in there. It looks like. We can ask him too, if he's down to read it. Cause maybe that could even be another patron thing. Yeah. If that's, if, if we don't tackle it right now. Yeah. And like I said, isn't the one he sent that isn't part of the original post, but he sent to us directly is like included within the world of the junction fall stuff, which you can check out on Patreon. But I really like it. I always like these like small town kind of Alan wake feeling ask, you know, heard your phone vibrate and stuff. I don't have my Instagram notice on, so I don't think it'd be that. I doubt he has not responded. He just said, yes. He just put in a picture of the worst or shy original candy with it. And I was like, what did I say? He, um, is it worse? Sure. Whatever. It's fucking hard candies. You can look him up at the Jesse Clark on Reddit. Uh, he has several stories. I always like these Alan wake kind of small town, you know, creepy stuff going on. And I like sort of the shotgun. Style of it, where it feels like you're reading old police logs and stories from a detective and things like that. What are you smiling about? What's it like being best friends with secretariat? Just kidding. It's another Seabiscuit joke. The, uh, the, uh, thank you so much for watching this episode today. I was like, does the secretary thing work? Eh, whatever. My fucking, I have a horse. I have a horse woman wife and I have to watch all that bullshit. You know how many times I've watched war horse? Holy fuck. It's a lot, man. Or spirit. What's it mean? You're talking about your wife being a horse girl. And now you're like, Oh, I'm a horse. And you're making horse jokes. Does that mean you think of me as a wife? Kind of. Did he, did he respond? Is that what you know? He didn't respond. All right. Thank you guys so much for watching this episode of creep cast. We appreciate you. Until next time, guys, you stay creeped out there. Bye. Bye. If you want to check out the Jesse Clark, he's the Jesse Clark on Reddit. Um, read other versions of the junction fall stories, our Patreon and blah, blah, blah. Um, I feel like I've been flash bang this entire episode, so I don't really have anything clever to say. Uh, we'll get some waffles in you and some coffee. You'll feel good. I think Steven Spielberg did nothing wrong. I'm putting that on the record right now. I don't think you did. I don't think you did either. I do not associate with this man. I am, I am held here against my will. I had nothing to do with any of this. It's him. You want, uh, I'm innocent. So just say it in my name. The, I'm wiping the blood from my hands. Thank you. Thank you.