Police Detective Breaks Down The Buffalo Public Schools Investigation | Unsubscribe Podcast 256

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Yeah, get ready for round two. ♪ Say hi to Eli ♪ ♪ He's racially ambiguous and Brandon ♪ ♪ His hair is f*cking fabulous and Donut ♪ ♪ A dark joke disposition ♪ ♪ And there's a fat electrician ♪ ♪ We'll come to unsubscribe ♪ Yeah, no sh*t, right? Welcome to the Absolute. You're about to get Ed drenched in the mouth. That poor guy will never talk sh*t about a podcast ever again. He can get drenched. Three, two, one. Values. Fowl on three. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast, a.k.a. the Absolutely Fowl podcast. We are joined today by Eli Doubletap, Nick, the fat electrician, Rich, Angry Cops, and myself, Donut Operator. Thank you for joining. Donut, thank you for having us. Thanks, Cody. Brandon is busy with his election right now. And I had to step in, you know. We're super excited to see how that goes. This is our last podcast with normal civilian Brandon Herrera, probably. No, we've got a long ways to go. I don't believe you. No. Well, I mean, at the bare minimum, January. In District 23. Dog branded. All right. We can't do that. We can't. Cut that part. No, keep that. We can't do that. No, we cannot. Two seconds into this. We just bleep all of what you said, and then, like, you can't do that. I like that. It's true. Today, we have an update, because in the last couple of weeks, what was released, Mr. Rich? I don't know. What was released? Oh, the findings of the law. Not law enforcement, but the, oh, jeez, what's it called? Investigation. Yeah, I know the investigation, but the investigation was run by whom? Law firm. Law firm. Thank you. Independent investigator. Yeah. An independent investigator hired by the Buffalo Public School System. And this, how dare you? First of all, my mind's all erased. I have so many things that I want to go over that I can't think clearly. Basically, the long and the short of it is, I came on this podcast and wept like a bitch for a couple minutes, and then told everybody how bad the Buffalo Public School Systems were, and then the news ridiculed me and said, "Look at this idiot talking about something that we should focus on, but we'll choose not to focus on." Look at this guy, and they have alcoholic beverages on the table, and he burped once. How dare you? We should ignore the allegations he's made as an SVU detective about the improprieties that are happening with our children and our public school systems. Right. He already sounds like he's going to be president. God, no, never. District 23 needs a president, and that man is Brandon Herrera. So, obviously, the autistic army pushes back, rightfully so, and says, "Hey, how about you focus on the facts that this guy's bringing up," to which gets a lot of eyeballs on it, to which changes the information that came out about the most egregious incident that I talked about, which was the attempted abduction of two children at a Buffalo Public School that was mishandled by the Buffalo Public School system, which we'll get into as we discuss the findings of this investigation. And then, well, yeah, that led to the investigation from the Buffalo Public Schools via this law firm that they hired to look into things, which, if I'm not mistaken, I know they talked to me a couple of times. I know they talked to Nick. I'm not sure if you gave him the binder or. I did. Gave him the binder. Made a copy of it. Which was pretty substantial. And now, just a little over a week ago. I did. Yeah. Just a little over a week ago, they came out with their findings from the investigation. Real quick, if we ever did want to, not to interrupt too early, but if we ever did want to do a fundraiser to get independent lawyers or something on this, if you did, as Merch, signed copies of the binder and everything that was in it, you know you could raise some money doing that. This is true. Have all the Unsub podcast sign a copy of all of your findings in the binder. It's like sponsored Epstein files. I like it. Epstein files. Brought to you by Pepsi. Except hopefully we actually hold some people accountable in this game. Well, just like the Epstein files, Brandon, you might be disappointed in the fact that how few people are held accountable at the end of this. The Epstein files and the investigation ending with the Buffalo Public Schools. It was crazy watching all of our reactions and then just combing through it and be like, oh, oh, oh, nothing is going to happen. And then when you start really digging deep into it, you see all the problems. They're like. So what, what did they say? We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing. Not that bad. He was, I mean, he, he can only go so hard, but I mean, basically the gist of the entire thing is the podcast made this allegation. The podcast was correct for like 90% of it. And then when we got to the actual case, like the, the, probably the biggest allegation, which was the deleting of the footage, they had like a three page, very complicated, elaborate excuse for how it was a failure of their systems and nobody's actual fault. So did they, or didn't they? I had to read it four times to kind of understand what the fuck they were saying. They're trying to say that no individual person actually hit delete. Correct. Okay. And it goes to that level of even the kidnapping. Well, we can't confirm this story and it's just, he said, she said, and you have the nothing done with it. It's like, oh, well, sorry. We tried. Couldn't confirm it. Oh, we did our job. And that was even, wasn't it for the kidnapping too? So I'll say for most of it, right. For most of the things where they say we can't confirm it. It's them. It's them. I feel being honest where they say we didn't, we couldn't get any information regarding this because of a B or C and I'll tell you what those things are. And so we couldn't confirm that, but we also couldn't deny any of that. And I'll give you an example. So for one of the cases that I brought up where a young woman got by a young man, they're both students in a school. I believe it was in Northern Buffalo. And the young girl told the principal, the principal did her own investigation, didn't report it, which is a mandated reporter. You have to. And then a year later, one of the girl, either the girl or one of the girl's friends stated, Hey, this happened to so-and-so or me, I forget. And then it was an interview or investigated by district attorney's office and Buffalo police. And the district attorney, the assistant district attorney in charge of it. That case set a subpoena to the school principal and the school principal said, I'm not going to reply to the subpoena. I will not come in. I did my own investigation. I found it unfounded. I'm not coming in for this. So I didn't know you could just choose to do that. Yeah. Well, you can't. Well, there you go. You know, but you know, if you have a district attorney, that's not going to do anything. You can do whatever you want to do. And that's one of the issues, right? Is for that specific case. One, the Buffalo police department. The Buffalo police department could not give out any information because it is a case that involves juveniles. So you're limited. And I see where they're limited in the information that you can give out regarding juveniles to FOIA request or Freedom of Information Act or FOIA, Freedom of Information legislation. They're limited. But the district attorney's office, and this is kind of par for the course for all of the district attorneys, just about involvement in this. Except for the abduction case, would not assist the law firm in its investigation. So specifically for that case that I just brought up with the young girl being assaulted in the school by the pool and the principal getting a subpoena, I know for a fact that that principal's letter is in the file, the investigatory file, along with the subpoena by the assistant district attorney. But the district attorney's office will not supply that information to the investigative body, that law firm. Why? God fucking knows. Because it makes them look bad? Well, because it probably does make the district attorney look as though, hey, my legal authority, I will not choose to enforce that legal authority that I was voted in for when it comes to the assault or the misrepresentation underreporting the assault of a child. Or specifically the, I'm not going to follow the law firm. I'm not going to follow the law firm. You know, I don't want to follow the law firm. I don't want to follow the law firm. well, I guess I'm not going to do anything. Everybody else now goes, oh, sweet, this guy's not going to do anything. Yeah. Which is exactly what I believe happened with the Buffalo Public School's legislative body, not legislative body, but their judicial body, their legal representation. They said, oh, on many occasions, not just that one, they're not going to do anything. So we don't have to do anything. We don't have to show up when they say like that. And part of the investigation was that the legal representatives for the school were investigated by this law firm and it's two lawyers talking to one another. So Jesus Christ, like, could you, it's two rats fighting over a dead corpse. Like, what do we tell you? I could give a shit. So anyway, it's two peas in a pod. And unfortunately, that dead corpse is the corpse of a child. So what the investigation found was that there wasn't a good. Check the box verification system for subpoenas being sent to the school or individuals or the legal representatives for the school. And that that's where this not answering subpoenas issue comes forward. And what they basically say in the investigation is that for that incident, and I believe others, the school legal representatives aren't given a subpoena. The MOP for the schools is that if you are a person given a subpoena, it is your responsibility to then send that subpoena to the legal representation of the schools. Right. And then both of you talk about it or go through some sort of brick or brack. And then you go over to the DA's office with representation about what you can talk about, what you're protected from talking about, et cetera. Connor, do you know what Ridge Wallet makes now? No, Eli. What do they make? No, I don't. What do they make? 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And other policies, big word here, systemic in the system, brought apart by the system. But we find no individual responsible for any of the actions to include, get ready for this, the people in charge of the system that run the system, that make the rules and enforce the system, the Buffalo Public Schools. Well, thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold any, any one accountable, right? If only we could hold the people for accountable, that made the rules that kept us here in this stagnant place. But we can't because it's not their fault, which is the whole thing that made me really frustrated was there. But they give them notes. What's that? They did say, but we recommended new, we recommended some changes, which I'm okay. You want to recommend some changes. That's cool. Some of them were blacked out because it's like security policies when it comes to the schools, which I understand, you know, Hey, this is me and you talking about security for schools. That conversation does not need to be public. Let's not tell the criminals how to circumvent. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, which is, I mean, do you even need to tell the criminals how to circumvent the system? You could just not follow subpoenas by the district attorney district attorney's office and then break into a school and do whatever you want because it's a systemic problem and we haven't changed the system yet and we're not holding anybody accountable in charge of the system. So, so what do we do from here? Like, what's the, is there any recourse here or is it just kind of like where this is where we're at? Right. That it's, this is, this is. We were discussing this earlier. This is where we're at now before. Do we have to censor what the next step? But it's your fault. I was going to say, like, I saw you, like, I saw a bunch of wood piled up in the backyard. I didn't know if we were building a key. No. So you know how, uh, because of the Tony thing, it's become like common knowledge on the internet that, uh, Congress has like a slush fund for settling, uh, assault allegations, which is crazy, which is crazy. Right. Like for those who didn't follow, I basically like accidentally kicked off. Uh, me to DC edition where there is legitimately a slush fund that Congress has with millions of dollars for dealing with allegations of impropriety, which is, where does the money come from? I'm still trying to determine whether or not it's taxpayer or donor funded either way is bad. Wild. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like, yeah, no, this is just a general fund that says set aside knowing the fact that, you know, I'm sure as people are accused of things they haven't done, but also just kind of the underlying assumption is, oh, well we know congressmen are pieces of shit and we're going to. Hi there. I am fully charged and here to tell you, toy story five is now on Disney plus. It's been too long. Cowboy. Woody buzz and Jesse are back for a brand new adventure with some seriously cool new tech. What? Holy butterscotch. You said it, Jesse. So save your batteries and watch the global phenomenon at home. And the best part, it's perfect for the whole family. Power up your movie night and watch Disney and Pixar's toy story five now streaming on Disney plus rated PG. You're going to have to defend these allegations at some point, so we'll just, we'll keep a pool going for whenever that comes up. It's not a one-off where it's like, oh, we'll build this from a case to case basis. Like, oh shit, John, who's very innocent guy. He got hit with this. Hey, let's raise some money. This is, ah, we'll just, this is going to happen a lot. We'll have a well built for that, which is wild. Well, that got, that got me thinking about slush funds and unsubs been threatened to have been sued multiple times, not for assault allegations, but for other things, mostly talking shit on the internet, taxpayer funded settlements. Oh, that's disgusting. And how much money just for reference is like million, 10 to 15 million. Yeah. In a, and it varies on a year to year basis, but apparently in 2017, it was revealed that at least $300,000 in public funds had been used to settle harassment claims against congressional offices. Tony Gonzalez is looking at that. Like we've got to bump those numbers up. Most of rookie numbers. He's not going to have to worry about it much longer. Anyways, that got me thinking unsub should just have a slush fund for next time we get threatened to get sued for like, I don't know. Calling out a school district or ruining a politician's career. Cause we're probably going to get sued at some point. We've had multiple threats already. I agree. Well, not only that, but also the, um, we doubled down on them. Yeah. Well, what's funny is that these, uh, like the theater, like the theater that threatened to Sue us, what they they're, what they're used to doing this now. Can we talk about this now? We can't talk about it yet. Like, but like a theater. Okay. So we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll blank that out. But there was a theater that we had an issue with that is used to bullying, starving artists and, uh, and you know, musicians and. And they didn't realize like, oh, every person on that stage is independently pretty well off. We can't be bullied like that. They're like, oh, well we're, we're going to Sue you. And we're like, fucking bring it. We're bored. They got ahold of our agent. And our agent is like, if you guys don't do X, Y, Z, they're going to involve lawyers and Sue you. And our official response was LOL. Send it. Was that the actual response? Hell yeah. Dude. If I was working on their end and I got that as a response, I'd be like, oh. They said, LOL, send it. Could you, could you imagine that like at any other scenario? Like America has be Christy. I mean, it's any kind of battle. It is reading it. It's like, we're going to attack you. Be prepared. They get a note back. It's like dope. Pigeon said, have fun. Huh? All caps. LOL. Like that's well, maybe we talked. Who might be making them? A mistake. And they sent back an eggplant emoji. So the slush fund idea, which we still should do also got me thinking, why doesn't unsub just have our own pack money for influencing politics and like doing legal stuff. We could have come pack and then we could, I don't know, give, give money to whoever's running for district attorney of Erie County in New York. That's what I was going to say. Like really? And like, not even just like to prop up people. Cause like, I don't want it in the fucking money. No, I want to use it to take down bad people. Exactly. Use it as like, oh, yeah. "Oh, it's the asshole punishment fund." - Yes, yes, that's what I want. - APF. I want to raise a pact just so like we're like we're going to start with the D.A., but it can just go from there. Like we could have a stamp of approval and it's like the fist. I just like we don't have a stamp of approval. It's a it's a mark of people we don't like. It just becomes a thing. Like whenever the black whenever we endorse somebody, they have an issue now. I mean, I honestly I love the idea of I think we should do it. Compact. Oh, no, I hate how much comes coming after me. Comes on me, guys. They're on to me because we were talking is like, do you just have a fund that just doesn't get taxed or touched and we build it? We don't know. We have to. What can you do with PAC money once? Like if you like, there are a lot of restrictions. Yeah, there's I know there's a lot of rules with it. A lot of people use them as an opportunity because like there are max out amounts for different campaigns and it's different state to state. And whether it's federal, state, local, whatever amounts that an individual can donate to a campaign, but you can do like people use PACs because there's no there's no limit on what you can give to a PAC, at least in most cases. So like you can you can give you know, if I could only give five thousand to you as a candidate. Well, now I can give one hundred thousand dollars to this PAC. The only thing is it's illegal for the candidate to conspire with the PAC. Like you can't have that direct communication like, oh, yeah, donate to my PAC that I run. By the way, and the candidate have complete control over the advertisements, like that, like they've got their own board, like it has to be separate. That being said, we're not. We're not collaborating with any politician. We're mother f***ing them. So we're we're lazing targets as I feel like that's what about you, though? Would we have like if there's a PAC that we could use that could support you, the C-PAC, a PAC of some sort for Brandon? Well, I actually there's got to be a PAC. Yeah, there's got to be. I did. Actually, I did start a PAC at some at a certain point or I wanted to called a based PAC where we were just going to go like and this is before I. So I don't know if I like I like it, but it's so on the nose. It's just going to be like again, like going given the good guy's support and stuff like this. But it's also much more exciting to just punish bad people. I like that. Oh, yeah. Punisher PAC. All right. Eli's sick. I got to do the ad today. Let's see how this goes. 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Do you think compact could like, I don't know, change the election of Erie County District Attorney's Office? I feel like it probably could. I feel like we could do that ourselves. We really could. That could get dangerous. I think about how much more we could do. Yeah, because then it's actual change and it's going towards something and then millions raised. I mean, how hard would it be for the city of Buffalo and the people of Erie County to like raise a little bit of money and be like, oh, hey, this guy's not working with trying to put, you know, people who are abusing our children behind bars or holding the schools accountable. I mean, I feel like that's a pretty easy win. The thing is, you'd also want to find a candidate that you like. You'd want to find somebody who actually represents. I don't know the thing a D.A. supposed to do like a good lawyer, like maybe a lawyer. I don't know. Rich, if you won your election exclusively because some PAC relentlessly slandered your opponent on the Internet and ruined their career and then overfunded you, I bet you'd be on your fucking P's and Q's the entire time. You'd hope so. But also we're talking about their money goes to destroying. People, they don't back anyone like this is way scary. We're also talking about a perfect storm of someone who's both a politician and a lawyer. So I wouldn't put a lot past him. I'll also say this. Just, you know, as a man in media, I look for advertisements. And did you know that the local billboards across the the the one ninety in the city of Buffalo, it's a major vein that goes through the city. It's only like ten thousand dollars could get you about five billboards. For an entire month going up and down the interstate that goes directly through the city of Buffalo. And the best part is whoever puts those billboards up gets to choose what's on them. Oh, man, that's crazy. Huh? Hmm. Oh, well, it's OK. What if it's not like the D.A.'s dad who was super wealthy, had the judge seal a court case where he got a DUI in college so nobody knew about it forever? That'd be crazy. I'm sure that's well, that's one out of five. All right. We got four more. Well, you know what? Yeah, there's got to be a reason other than poor leadership that the assistant district attorneys with, I don't know, experience have been fleeing the district, the Erie County District Attorney's Office over the past year. I mean, it's like it's like eight have resigned and gone somewhere else, if not more. In a span of 12 months. I didn't really. I didn't know that off. Was it from you? Geez, I don't know. I don't know. It's almost like there are people that are tired of seeing bad people get away with murder. Sometimes. Like literally or child or just a lack of cheese. What would you call that? Like accountability. Accountability is the term. Yeah. It was crazy reading again the document and seeing they tried to sweep the lady flipping off on the cameras under the rug. Like, well, she said it didn't happen. So we talked about that, too. Yeah. And they said, we were not sure if we can confirm it. They were like, oh, it's water under the bridge. Yeah. And they tried it. I will say. Reading that, I did have a pretty big smile on my face because I was like, that's from my binder. That's from my binder. That's like they were. I'm not shitting you. Screenshots of documents that I had acquired are exhibit evidence in this report where it's like, and he kind of fucking scorches them on the shelter in place thing. I don't know if you remember that part. So there is a portion of it. I think you'll do a better job of explaining it because you kind of touched on it before. Yeah. Go ahead. So basically, when the school, when the guy broke into the school and was potentially abducting children or trying to abduct children, the school has protocols and there's like three tiers of what you tell the school members so they know how to act accordingly. There is shelter in place, which is the lowest tier, which is like there's inclement weather like a tornado outside. It basically says we're going to lock the exterior doors. Stay inside. Right. And then there's an intermediary one, which I forget. And then there's lockdown and lockdown means that there's an interior threat to the school and every teacher needs to get the students in the classrooms, lock the classroom doors and take a roll call to account for all the kids. The intermediate one is lock out. Lock out. Yeah, correct. Sorry. Shelter in place. You don't lock any doors. You just stay inside. Lock out as you lock the exterior doors for like a tornado or whatever. But there's an exterior threat that could try to get in. But they did the shelter in place. They did shelter in place. Which is the lowest tier one. And this is after been you guys already brought up. This door should be locked. The side doors. Oh, so yeah, the this is we already brought this fact up. Like I know people that have worked in that school before and people in the the science museum and the doors that the individual got in the doors from the school. There's a set of doors at the school and the museum share. So if you're in the museum. You can access the doors to the school. If you're in the school, you can access the doors of the museum and go through the museum. Cool. Interesting for learning spaces. But those doors have been broken and have not been locked for over a year. And I believe it was over a year at that point when the gentleman or the guy broke in to go abduct potentially abduct the kids. So those doors were unlocked. Knew they were a problem was brought up by security individuals. And then that's how the guy got into the school locked down or not. He still. Would have gotten in because those school doors were unsecured and had been unsecured for a year over. Right. But had they called lockdown, the teachers would have known to get the kids into classrooms and lock the doors. Right. Yes. So. Hi there. I am fully charged and here to tell you Toy Story 5 is now on Disney Plus. It's been too long. Woody, Buzz and Jesse are back for a brand new adventure with some seriously cool new tech. What? Holy butterscotch. You said it, Jesse. power up your movie night and watch disney and pixar's toy story 5 now streaming on disney plus rated pg oh i had broke that in the original video saying they called shelter in place not lockdown which is insane and then i had acquired the letter they sent home to parents which said that they went into shelter in place which downplays the entire event to the parents and then in the thing they're like no we talked to the leadership they said they did lockdown blah blah blah blah blah and they're like which we find hard to believe because this letter that we acquired from me clearly says that you told the parents that you went into shelter in place and then there was like i had three other pieces of evidence that showed that they went into shelter in place and it was like it literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers that was my interpretation of it at least when i read it but they were trying to tell the lawyer oh there was no no no communication there was a miscommunication we went into lockdown and even the lawyer like couldn't even deny he's like well then why did you tell all the parents that you went into shelter in place he's like i interviewed like other people that also were adamant that it was shelter in place not locked down like it was insane hey did you kill a guy i'm gonna interview you about if you killed a guy oh he says he didn't do it damn it's almost like you're the buffalo public schools and i'm like did you this up and you're like no and i've got a letter where you said you killed that guy i have a letter where you said you did it what water under the bridge right the dad didn't children on the bridge right he was i found out from the video that my kids were potentially abducted he found out from us basically the podcast is what got him to get involved and via either the podcast and his involvement i forget which but there was two months i think he said after the date i thought it was like six 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nobody's taking accountability we don't have a finger to point right and i'll tell you this because when i read it they were saying okay the the school's point of view from this and this is the legal and we're going to get into this because there's an obstruction portion of this which is huge that if anybody gets anything out of this the obstruction portion of this story is massive so the school's complaint to the district attorney's office where they requested video of it was that the district attorney's request was too vague and that the district attorney's request the ada that had the case was we need all video camera footage regarding this incident right so while this investigation happens of the law firm looking into the school about this the video footage that was like not totally sent over to the district's attorney's office their findings was what do you mean not totally sent over so i think a little refreshment of what they're trying to do is they're trying to figure out what they're trying to do is they're trying to figure out what they're trying to do and then they're trying to figure out what they're trying to do and then they're trying to figure out what they're trying to do and then they're it came out that there was a second child that was attempted to be abducted during this and that that second child's family was not told about it for a while that's why we brought up the dad that found out his kid was not abducted until you know 60 days or six months later and one of the issues with that the main cause of that was that the district attorney's office didn't have all of the video from the schools after they requested all the video from that incident and it was only when somebody from the schools had good intentions and had previously recorded a portion from a specific video camera in the school showing the second child was being abducted not just the first but that there was a second involved and then sent that to the district attorney's office that then the district attorney reviewed that footage and said oh my god there's a second kid involved so exactly what you said happened pretty much okay so it's inexcusable that months after me as a parent coming into the school coming to the school at night coming to the school during the day coming to the school every day that i did not know that my son is one of the first persons that this person encountered months months and he's there apparently every day and he's like yo what the so the investigation from the lawyer's office the legal team they find out that and this is their response is that the district attorney's request for video evidence of the entire incident was so vague that people who reviewed the video footage were like oh there's three cameras down this hallway we'll give you one of the cameras even if all three of the video cameras recorded the incident at different angles and perhaps different times is there only give you one is there a word for like when you want everything pertaining to something or like all all there's a word all yeah involving the incident we would like all video involving i'm sorry was that too vague all the footage is wild like oh here all foot there's three cameras of this situation we will provide all three not like well we didn't know you wanted all three angles if there's forgive me for a moment i'm gonna spitball for for a sec if there is a break it into a school and a child is nearly abducted by the person and that person is a school staff and then the district attorney's office not the police the district attorney's office says give me all the video of this incident to me a reasonable person i would be like i want every camera from 10 minutes before this guy's on our soil to an hour after all the police leave and we're going to give them all of those gigabytes of data that that sounds like all that sounds like all yeah i'm not going to delete any i'm going into this like they asked for one thing i'm going to give them everything i'm definitely not the person to pick and choose what is good evidence is all too vague i don't understand though i i don't get it i think it's specific it's specific i would like all of your camera footage from this time to that if i hold this up yeah and brandon asked me how much of that did you drink nick and i say all of it you're being too vague the cans empty dickheads what are we talking about like we'll get ready for a crime for a crime where it is oh they want that angle it's not really good like you know what we need to prove that we did everything possible here i mean it's not even that like the angle's not very good you left out a whole ass kid you're not qualified to homeschool your kids you need to send them to me because i'm a professional also i don't know what the word all means what are we talking about also i forgot to mention your child was abducted. Also that. Sorry about that, bro. Oh, you wanted me to be accountable for all the kids? Are you sure? That's a great line to bring up. Hey, are you responsible for all the kids? Are you concerned or do you not know what all means when it comes to children? It seems so. One of the parents has warned it. That's all of them. The kids should have told you. What the fuck? Which they did try to blame the kids. Carry the one. They actually tried to blame the kids themselves? We thought the parents would talk or the children would say something. That was like one of the statements. I think that's like. I forget what that was about. But still sticking on the video thing. So their legal. The legal team looking into it, their findings were, hey, there's not like a specific MOP for evidence collection or video collection. Manual of Procedures. Specifically written down on how they're supposed to retrieve it and give it to the Buffalo Police Department or the District Attorney's Office. And because that request was vague, they weren't really sure how to do all of it or whatever. So that's one of the things. And we've kind of hit on how ridiculous that is. The other thing, which is massive here, and this is what I want people to really focus on, is the obstruction. Is they say, we did not find any obstruction from the Buffalo Public Schools or their legal representatives during this investigation. Now here's an important piece of information here that they quote and they bring up in this. Well, in the investigation. And that is, the investigating attorneys say, here is a quote from an email from the District Attorney's Office. Quote, the Assistant District Attorney, to the legal team representing the Buffalo City Schools, your lack of transparency and hiding behind FERPA, which I'll get into in a second, is and your inability to share requested subpoenaed evidence with us is obstructing our investigation. Well, that's an interesting choice of words. Which, and this is where I go nuts, this is where I go nuts, which the attorneys looking into the investigation, the investigating body says, although obstruction is a word commonly used in legal terms for preventing an arrestable offense for preventing or obstructing an investigation, the District Attorney's Office, the lawyers saying you're obstructing my investigation. That's not actually obstruction. That's just like, they're using the term. They're not, they don't actually mean the word. They don't mean what they said they mean. Dude, 100% and you can read it for yourself. I have it. I shit you not. I wrote down the page. Also real quick. I just love the fact that like Eli knew to turn down your mic to the degree that you'd be shouting into it, but I saw you peeking my mic. I was like, we're just very funny. Connor, what are you doing? I'm fuming brother. You fuming okay? You ain't never seen nobody cheap a fume like this boy can. Fume responsibly. Look at Connor. I'm cured. 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They also go on to state that the video deletion of the kidnapping is, quote, neglectful, but that nobody is at fault. That's the thing. They just no one's at fault. And we were discussing it. It's just no one's held accountable. They're like, well, okay. Well, are you happy with that? Hey, make sure any particular findings must not translate into harassment, threats, or intimidation directed at anyone. The path forward requires collaboration, not division as we work to create the safest possible environment. Do your job, or I'll make sure you get fired. Yeah. Well, bingo. Well, here's the thing that pisses me off is like this idea that, okay, yes, a failure did happen. But nobody failed. It's like, okay, well, I'm sorry, but I think those two sentences are completely incompatible with each other. If a failure had occurred with your organization that allowed something bad to happen, cool, let's fix it, right? But to be able to say that nobody failed at anything. There's no one individual actually didn't do their job. Like, well, that doesn't make any fucking sense, frankly. We did the math for what was the percentage 0.03 reported as. Can we talk about that? They talk about that in the investigation. Okay, never mind. Math doesn't math. I'm going to have him FOIA request it, and then we're going to talk about it. Because it's one of those things that I'm aware of. But we have to FOIA request it. What would you want to see done now? Or because of this, what's the disappointment? You're like, okay, this needs to happen. So here's the disappointment, right? And a lot of it comes to that specific and incident, because it was such a good, a horrible incident, but such a good representation of how the Buffalo school systems do not work with the district attorney's office of the Buffalo Police Department, right? Hi there. I am fully charged and here to tell you Toy Story 5 is now on Disney+. Woody! What? Holy butterscotch! You said it, Jesse. And the best part? Power up your movie night and watch Disney and Pixar's Toy Story 5 now streaming on Disney+. Rated PG. And that is that their investigating body uncovered, and this is in those pages, that 36, 37 to like 41 or 42, you know, and they're wide spaced. It's not going to take you an hour to read. It's going to take you 5-10 minutes. The investigating body writes in their findings, the district attorney's office is emailing the legal team representing the city of Buffalo Public Schools stating, you are intentionally misinterpreting law so that you can defeat an investigation and obstruct an investigation into the abduction of children. That is a fact. That is 100% a fact. If anybody can get anything out of this, 100% fact. The fact is that the investigation found the district attorney's office emailed stating you, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools, are intentionally misrepresenting legal doctrine and obstructing investigations into the abduction of children. Full stop. That is a fact in the investigation. If you are a parent of any child in that school, if you are a taxpayer, in the city of Buffalo, the fact that a legal team in the city school system is intentionally via the district attorney's office obstructing investigations into the welfare of your children, I don't know how you're not lighting that place on fire. Metaphorically. In Minecraft. There we go. Because, I mean, as a future parent, it's one of the most terrifying things probably. My kid's never going to go to a Buffalo Public School. But there are kids that don't have the option. This is where I get passionate about them. Sorry if I'm yelling, but I am. No, yell. It pisses me off. So I'm never going to send my kid to a city of Buffalo, Buffalo Public School, fucking ever, because they're so fucking corrupt and horrible. It's disgusting. Case in point for what I just said about the investigation. I'm not. You are. All those families that don't have an option to send their kids to public school, all those families that are working two jobs, that are trying to make ends meet, where you don't have a choice. You have to send them to public school. That's it. You're fucked. Unless. If you don't do anything. Yep. So if this is the time, if this is the moment where you're going to ignore all the evidence on the table and do absolutely nothing. Sounds like at the very least that the D.A. Neal. Needs to get shit canned. When's he up for election again? Three years. No, it's sooner. It's on my phone. It's on my calendar. I knew Nick would would keep a tally. Yeah, we're we're we're looking at to see if anything changes. What do you do? What would you recommend for individuals? Because this is we found out it's way bigger than just Buffalo. Oh, yeah. During our time. It was like, holy shit. This is not just in Buffalo. It turns out incompetent government employees are everywhere. Yeah. If you're going to a public school, light me on fire. And that's what's crazy about it. It's fucking terrifying. Be like, oh, this is the best option we have. No, you can start making changes at a local level and holding people accountable. When you get a piece of paper, it's like, ah, dude, they tried. Yeah. The changes that need to happen in my mind are all the female friends and representatives in the Buffalo public school system. Those people that are on the board. That hitched their ponies to the superintendent that recently retired and had that school named after her, which is disgusting. What a horrible self bloviated pat on the back. That is that you'll allow all this to happen and then get an award by having a school auditorium named after you get you fat idiot. Anywho, anybody that hitched their ponies and it's not hard to find them, except one of them is the woman that flipped off everybody on that fucking call needs to 100%. Be called to resign and replaced with somebody, a parent or a teacher that cares about these kids. Because I'm telling you right now, except for a handful, and I mean like literally like two or three or four people on the board that I've already talked to, they all need to go, including the new guy. I can make it easy. All the vast majority of people that like hardline supported her, believe it or not, they're all in the same sorority in college. Oh, there you go. All the women in the sound that out. The good old gal system. Yeah. So there's that. It's just. Oh, and the other thing, too, is like those. The A.G.'s office needs to investigate the Buffalo Public Schools legal team or the bar does because of their inability to do their job or answer subpoenas and hide behind legal statutes like FERPA, which, by the way, so I was wondering because I didn't know that acronym. Here's what FERPA is. It's F.E.R.P.A. I forget exactly what it stands for, but it basically it protects students information. So if you're a dad of a child, you can request information. If you're a stranger on the Internet that like got upset about something and maybe the kids involved in some sort of like criminal aspect or is the victim of some sort of criminal aspect and you like go to the school and say, I want that kid's information. The school can say no. Right. Right. Just it's. Privacy protection. Yes, but it's very limited. So FERPA is. I'm requesting Nick's grades, his his report card, his attendance record. It's specifically for that. Yeah, that's what FERPA belongs to. Not criminal activity. So it doesn't mean that if you go to a school and you stab a kid and then I come up as a Buffalo police officer asking your teacher or administrator of the school, what's your name and date of birth? They can't say I can't give. You that because it's FERPA. But what the Buffalo public school system is doing is literally this is not an exaggeration, is literally in cases of violence and assault via student on student or assault when it's a student onto a teacher or a faculty member to include people that clean up the schools, which happens. I will show up or other detectives will show up or officers will show up and say, hey, school, we need the name of the student that assaulted Jimmy. The janitor. The janitor and broke his mouth wide open and sent him to the hospital. But what's happening is, is the school is saying, no, we can't give you that information because it's FERPA. And what happened in the investigation with the kids being abducted is exactly that. The Buffalo schools or the Buffalo Police Department and the district attorney's office said we need the information to the victims who was there, who are the children that are in the classrooms that he got into because he got into classrooms and like poked his head in was just like, hey, what's going on? And then like got us. And they were there. Sorry to derail a little bit. Did they ever figure out what his deal was? Like why he was there? He had schizophrenic break. He was driving himself to the hospital after making contact with officers in an adjoining town. And then he was he was two stops away from going to the hospital and decided that better pop into a school or pop into a school. And FERPAs was saved, saved. The parents didn't get noticed because of that. So what this way? Well, I would have thought that the parents would have. Been no, because it was responsible of the school. They decided not to. 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The Buffalo police and the district attorney's office go, hey, school, give me the names of the people that were involved to include the children, specifically the children, because these are crimes that are against children. And the school said, no, we refuse to give you the names of any victims from the school that are juveniles, which is the whole point where we're there to protect the kids because of FERPA. So the school was intentionally using FERPA where I'm a stranger. I can't request your report cards or if you're tardy to class to say during a criminal investigation, I can refuse to give you the names of the victim children in this crime, which is a horrible representation of what FERPA is. Because that will it makes you wonder who is the legal entity responsible for deciding what, like, that was their interpretation, which was wrong. So there's no oversight on that. They could just decide that. Well, that's why the district attorney's office said you are intentionally misusing FERPA and obstructing this case, which is where this whole obstruction thing happens. There's so in the notebook they actually said or in the printout was, hey, this is where there was a failure. But the teachers claim this, so we can't really do anything. It's like they said they tried their best. No one reported it. No, at fault, we can just potentially build a roadmap for them so it doesn't happen again. Okay, everyone's good. Everyone's good. Oh, you see, the legal team thought that by utilizing FERPA and not giving them their names to the victims of an attempted abduction, well, they thought that that was their legal right, so it's not really obstruct. No, you're lawyering it. Forgive me if this is like an off the wall comparison. But it kind of reminds me of the people that don't understand the difference between criminal and civil when it comes to qualified immunity. i'm trying you would have to paint me a better picture of yeah sorry because like a lot of people think that like things so i'm not following yeah a lot of people they just say oh we need to end qualified immunity because cops shouldn't be able to get away with doing whatever they want it's like well yeah understandably but they don't realize that you could still be tried for criminal actions correct yeah qualified immunity means that for people who don't know qualified immunity for police officers means that if i arrest nick and it's a legal arrest right there is a even if it's like sloppy or bad or whatever but by the law it is legal he can't sue me civilly he could try to sue me uh criminally or he can try to get like a criminal investigation going on and that's cool and the reason why that happens you'd be like well why can't he sue you civilly the reason he is basically every person that got arrested could then sue a cop civilly and then you would have no police officers because we'd be out of house and home and there's like just in legal fees even if you did everything right you'd still have to pay a lawyer to defend you even though you'd win every time that i would make an arrest a bad guy would go sweet i'm gonna sue him for fifty thousand dollars and i would still have to hawk up the legal fees to get an attorney to defend me and then slowly whittling away how much money i would be able to make or support a family and then eventually if you make 10 arrests imagine if you made 10 arrests a year and then each guy decided to take you to civil court for each arrest there's your salary there's dude you're toast how are you paying 10 different attorneys or 10 one single attorney 10 times over for all that time just because you're making a legal arrest and it also doesn't like it with civil court you don't actually need to be guilty of anything or have done anything wrong for somebody to take you to court that you then have to defend correct so like people are like well yeah no if they're doing something wrong then yeah we should be doing that it's like well no like anybody can sue anybody for anything yeah even then i i believe that if you're found criminally at fault for something that qualified immunity doesn't correct that's the entire part anymore that's the entire point if you're a cop and you pull somebody over you're just like i'm deciding to bonk you on the head like that yeah you're black bam yeah you will go to go to jail i would like to say all the time but like i don't know if there's probably some exceptions but for the most part you're like yeah you're going to be held criminally liable yes and then once you're held criminally liable then you can sue them civilly that's fine qualified immunity just means if i'm doing my job in the legal manner of which of which it's supposed to be then you can't just sue me civilly which would be like oh of a way of intimidation yeah but maybe maybe that wasn't the best comparison but it's it's what their interpretation of is ferpa uh their interpretation is kind of like oh well we can't give any information at any time or whatever it's like well no like there's a difference between you know your report card and your attendance and something that's actually criminal those are like two different categories two different categories but what they're doing is they're intentionally misinterpreting it to delay an investigation to obstruct it which is why the district attorney and that's the thing like it's adding such a burden on the system because now it's not like now the cops can't just go there and get the information to do the crime investigation and take somebody to court for that now if they want to get anything done every time they have to go to court against the school district to establish what ferpa is or ferpa doesn't apply in this individual case when that court case then they can go back to the investigation which is a year later and then get the information and then you're trying to do an investigation a year after the fact and here's the deal right the buffalo police department is we're paid we are created by and adherent to the city of buffalo hi there i am fully charged and here to tell you toy story 5 is now on disney play it's been too long cowboy woody buzz and jesse are back for a brand new adventure with some seriously cool new tech what holy butterscotch you said it jesse so save your batteries and watch the global phenomenon at home and the best part it's perfect for the whole family power up your movie night and watch disney and pixar's toy story 5 now streaming on disney plus rated pg if the buffalo public school system is the buffalo public school system well they are adherent to the mayor and the city of buffalo so if we both both work under the same entity why is it that i need a subpoena from buffalo entity 1 to buffalo entity 2 to get the surveillance footage when a crime is committed on buffalo public property yeah it's not like you're talking to like two different companies talking to each other it's like no i work in marketing i'm just trying to get an answer from accounting yeah like we're the same i'm not talking to a private school i'm talking to a city of buffalo buffalo public school why is this so difficult why is this so difficult and the biggest thing which is just the the glowing red nose on rudolph here is the fact that the district attorney's office called out the legal representatives for the buffalo public schools on obstruction on intentionally misinterpreting law to prevent victims information from being shared with the district attorney's office who represents victims of crimes and the investigative body talks about it and says how bad that is confirming that it happened and then goes well i don't even care that they go well it's a misinterpretation and maybe we can when the professionals that are qualified to identify obstruction of the law use the word obstruction of the law i don't know that they mean obstruction of the law bro how more clear could it be that this is like us like it's a fucking cover-up and nothing's done i mean maybe not the legal uh investigators covering it for them but i mean the schools and their legal team trying to cover up the mistakes that they've been making so what are next steps like i we need to get people fired fuck it that's the thing is like names out i don't give a shit we can't do anything like that's the shitty part well it's like we can well i can we can get the da removed and stuff like that but i mean as far as like it's one of those things where it's like i can't do anything for you if you're not willing to do anything for yourself yeah i can throw the rope down to you but if you're not willing to grab the rope and pull yourself up i can't save you so i mean at this point it's on the parents to actually go out and defend your fucking kids and if they don't want to do it i i can only do so much for everyone it's not even the parents it is it's a buffalo taxpayers period your tax money is going to a corrupt legal representative a corrupt representation legal representative for the i don't know it's going to some really shitty lawyers that are protecting the schools to include the school board the two issues are bad lawyers that your tax money is going to to protect bad buffalo public school school board members and both of those people are preventing your children from being protected and secure in buffalo public schools wasn't there something shady about the lawyer too i don't remember i feel like i read that in the binder there was uh there's there's connections where a lot of the uh how did it work i think it was it was something along the lines of like a significant amount of the lawyers that had worked at buffalo public schools as employees would then get jobs and go work at this law firm that is then contracted out i'd have to double check in the binder but like they're they're like heavily connected in the school system essentially and it is it's just if you're a parent future parent you actually have to step up and cause a ruckus like hey what the if you read that paperwork that's the biggest thing read that doc they released oh yeah and now go into it with richard has everything that shows hey this is actually what happened it's not a he said she said and they they try to use that it's like oh well we couldn't confirm on the other side so there's no fault because that's a lot of that article is well we tried i will and the thing that is frustrating about that we tried which i talked about earlier is i understand the buffalo police department's side of things where hey there's a juvenile involved in this we can't share the juvenile's information and i would hope that they could still share the narrative of the reports right so the narrative of report are at such and such a time at such and such a place subject a talk to subject b and did xyz right i would hope that they could redact those um the victim the juvenile information but still keep the narrative of what occurred and the location which would show you the location of the school right the school's address uh that is what i would hope the buffalo or the buffalo police department would do um it is frustrating that the district attorney's office has not overturned to my knowledge other than i think that one email uh regarding the attempted abduction it has not overturned any of their investigative findings regarding some of the specific incidents to which i know because talking with some of the media where they asked me is does this involve such and such and i would hope that they could redact the narrative of what occurred and i would say yes because i know what it is they're like cool that's call number two five dash insert numbers right and i'll go okay cool they would say all right well these are the people that are involved this is what happens this is the incident you're talking about and say yeah that's the incident they're like well we've got the call number and then the district attorney's office will be like now we can't give you any of the information that we found during our investigation for that this is the thing where again i don't know if you can talk about we can delete this part but it is to a fact where it's there was absolute lies on that documentation. When you're like, what? No, this, - Oh yeah. This exists. This evidence exists. I know of incidents and I have, I know of them. And there are people in the media that have reached out to me and they have confirmed them with me, right? Through their investigation, through their FOIA requests, they said, are these some of the issues or the incidents that were some of the issues are coming from? And I say, yes. So if you can get the call numbers and the incident reports for incidents occurring at school addresses, which are FOIA-able, totally FOIA-able. This is not new information. You'll be able to discern if there is a lack of reporting. So I'll give you an example of what you can request. Let's say that you wanted to find out if reports were not being done appropriately, right? How do you look for something that isn't there? I think this may be kind of like the question you might be asking. You'd have to compare it to two things. What you'd have to do is you'd have to request for 911 dispatch calls, right? Or you could request for a year's worth of 911 dispatch calls that would say school, school other, school whatever. School other is the biggest issue because that's the one where they hide the bullshit, right? It doesn't say school assault. It doesn't say school whatever. It says school other, which is where you can hide it because it doesn't – what does other mean? It can mean whatever you want. And it also doesn't say assault and flash up with a red flag saying something bad happened, right? That's where they hide stuff. So you could request the 911 dispatch calls or CAD, computer-aided dispatch, which is the – what would pop up on our computer when we go to a call. You could request all of those school other calls. And then taking all of those CD numbers, which is case numbers, let's say – let's make it a lot. Let's say it's like 500 calls in a year to the schools. I don't think it's that many, but – no, it probably would be. Something like that, yeah. Yeah. Because it's like 7,000. Anyway, so let's say it's – let's say you get five – 14,000. Yeah. Let's say you get 500 calls for one year or six months. Just make it a couple months, right, to narrow down your investigation before I even went on my thing, which I have more information to tell you about after our thing and how things continued. So you would request from a time period, I want all the calls, the dispatched calls. Yeah, but what do you mean by all? Yeah, right. What do you mean by all? So you would FOIA the dispatched calls that came out of school other. FOIA requests all those calls dispatched out on CAD or radio runs, however you want to describe it. And then you could request all of the reports for those calls. Now, if a computer-aided dispatch call, right, comes out, then it says, hey, call 30 – this call started at 10 in the morning. And car 411. Goes to that call, right? The description of the call is school other. Additional information in that dispatch call is assault student on student, which you'll find. If you requested the 1375 or the police report for that call, you would be surprised at how from assault student on student, there is no police report for it. Now, let me ask you this. Hypothetical question. So if they're hit with this, this will be like, hey, and then these are the ones that have actual reports or nothing. Hey, what is the reason for no police report? That's a good question. Brandon, that is the golden question. That's the golden goose right there. So what you'll find is potentially. If you have a call and you'll see them, I assume, maybe. If you get a call where it says offense occurred between two students. Or let's even just. Say an assault happened between a student and a teacher. And you don't have a police report for that. Do you think that a detective in the special victims unit is going to know that that assault occurred? Or do you think that a district detective is going to know that that assault occurred between the student and the teacher? If no police report is made? Just or no. I'm going to say no. Which is one of the issues. I mean. That's not something that's not breaking news. That's something that you can FOIA. That's something that's been a part of these investigations since the moment that I came out and talked about them. It's just wild that that can even happen where it's like, man, push it aside. So we've been under the rug. We won't report that one. Yeah. So what would you before we wrap this up? What would be your next steps for the individuals watching? Because we discussed this is happening way more than just Buffalo. We've all seen that. It was the sheer amount. It was the sheer amount of DMs about it's like, hey, this is going on my school district. Fucking mind blowing. So cool. Because people real quick, if I could just that you see it a lot. People always pay attention, like the big, sexy, you know, federal elections and things like that. They don't pay attention. Things like school board and like local things, which affects you the most on it does. Yeah. And your local elections affect you more than anything in federal government level. Not only does it affect you more, most likely, but also it is where you have the biggest voice instead of being one out of 30 million. Yeah. Now, all of a sudden, you're one out of 300 and you can talk to a bunch of other people in the community and get them involved. And like, really, you can you can make big moves, but people don't because people it's very easy to get complacent and get lazy. Who can name people that are on their school board? I can't wait to be a member of my school board. It's not like they're in charge of the minds of your kids or anything. Yeah. It's not like you give these people six hours a day, five days a week time with your kids. Ryan's in charge of his own mind. I'm like, okay, but stop it. It's wild because I don't think it's knowing your kids, teachers, and then above that. And then all everything that they can change, represent, hide, take care of is extremely important. That's the crazy part. Like, I talked to multiple teachers that are fucking awesome and know this is a problem and have been some of them have been talking about it for years and have been. Yeah. Yeah. Taken to court multiple times and tried. They've tried to fire them multiple times because they push back and fight against the corrupt school board and just nobody listens to them. No. And I feel like there are really good teachers in Buffalo School District. It's just some of the people that are elected in charge are pieces of shit. Are they the ones that flip people off in Zoom calls and then lie about it? Nope. Not those ones. Oh, okay. They're the ones that are the same sorority. No, I'm saying the good ones. Oh. Oh, the good ones, yeah. Like, the good teachers that, like, have been trying to tell people that this is going on, but just nobody listens. Like, I've talked to. Because there was that one guy who was the whistleblower almost. Yeah. Kind of like, hey, yeah, this is a known issue. They tried to fire him three times. I, in my binder, I have the court documents where I think it was over a stabbing at the high school. Yeah. And he tried to get them in trouble for it because he had went and told them, like, hey, this door doesn't work and it doesn't lock. Yeah. And it, like, directly led to a stabbing at that school. Yeah. And, like, created an issue. Which they had. And they retaliated against him. They put him and he was the head of his department. I think it was, like, social studies or history department. They put him on leave for over a year, I believe. Oh, my God. And then all the other teachers in his department on leave and tried to fire the entire department. I think the other teachers in the department weren't on leave as long as he was, but he was on leave for, like, a year. A year plus while they were in court fighting it out. And the court system, I have the court documents where it was signed off on, like, this dude literally did nothing wrong. You can't fucking fire him. What are you talking about? It's funny how groups like that always, you know, they're very quick to protect their own and, you know, circle the wagons. And, oh, no, those are our guys. You can't fire them no matter what they did unless you go against the grain and unless you call them out for their bullshit. In that case, they'll leave you out to die. Well, that's where I think that's celestial. I'd almost say have a portion. The slush fund goes towards that. It's like, hey, if you have a school district, that does fuck you because it is terrifying. It's like, what am I going to do? That school board's going to attack me. Oh, I can maybe rally a couple of parents behind me. But at the end of it, if I lose this job, I can't do anything. Now, if you have a backing and then you all understand, if you bring up kids, safety, anything like that, a lot more people will rally behind you than you think. And if we can help with that, then that's awesome. That's our job. It'd be funny if we do, like, because, you know, we do the autism charity month. We do veteran charity month for Unsub. We just add a third month into the rotation. That's just the war chest month. Literally, we just keep a war chest. So we can sue dummies. Dude, literally, it's like, hey, you're doing this? The pact to specifically spend against people who are fucking assholes, like the DA. That's a year one that just stays around, and we just add into it throughout the year. Speak softly and carry a $300,000. threat, then they will be very oh shit i'm putting my job at risk for this oh look how many people with social media here's hundreds of thousands that will look at it and then here is the funds to defend that to make an actual change i like that idea a lot i think one of the changes that need to be made now and i think it's an easy change to be made is if i'm not mistaken at this moment the buffalo public schools have all their social media comments turned off weird which if you are a public body yeah i believe and i know that if you're representative of people like the president can't turn off comments or block people if it's an official account i think there was a supreme court case about it five to ten years ago that says that that's illegal official social media accounts specifically i know the facebook one for the buffalo public schools they have all comments turned off which you cannot do if i understand that legally i don't know about entities i know for people it's it's a violation how you talk back and forth with people from your community that you represent if you turn off the comments oh don't get me wrong i think it's egregious either way but like legally speaking i don't know if it extends that far but that's just because i don't know i think that it's one of those things that it's a a small i mean our fucking lawyer just we just ask him good news we're building a pact where we can sue bad politicians and just target shitty people also jake come here come here can we do that on camera real quick got the you and i just got back from the polls look at that there you go they voted i vetoed nice tony i hear he's a great guy uh never been involved in scandals perfect voting record just real real you should have signaled to say i vetoed tony gonzalez i vetoed i fired him well the people of texas fired him more more accurately i i assume anyway i could get shellac tonight if you're not gonna if you're not gonna sell this shirt i will or maybe this can be done i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know war chest pack shirt i fired i fired tony gonzalez that would be great i'm everybody that voted for brandon gets to rock that shirt i think we need to start a pack and like that's we need to look into this i fired tony gonzalez i fired representative tony gonzalez no i i'm actually excited at the idea the gang gets into politics well because not only not only is it like are we behind us but also now there's actual financial ramifications because it's like you know they can you know turn off their comments for a week or two and watch it die down but now it's like oh no fuck i just i'm in a district or an area or whatever local community where my entire race was a hundred thousand dollars and these people are looming over me with not only millions of viewers but also that kind of money i mean like that's a real threat to make people and again we're not doing it to like sway people to do the wrong thing we're not doing it to like sway people we're just holding people accountable making them do their fucking job that's it i think the first step for the buffalo public schools to push them in the right direction is to have the family step up and to have them turn their comments back on on all social media yeah what a small win to show that we're taking this seriously how can you hear us complain if you turn off the comments now do a public school board sorry the question i was going to ask you um we were talking about the supreme court case that they decided a few years ago where uh public officials cannot uh block their constituents or turn off comments and things like that uh does that extend to public entities like the buffalo public school system i don't know honestly that was my answer as well yeah i'm not federally if you can if you could yell the dod or dow and they can't block you yeah i would assume that that could still be for smaller entities at the state and local level obviously they limited to the state and local level the people that they represent or that pay the taxes to keep that place going it would make sense but i i don't know the answer ultimately like what avenue it took the gang goes to the supreme court uh no it's it's it's legal because it's not specific essentially if comments are turned off for everyone it's legal but they can't go and block specific individuals that makes sense so as long as they're treating everyone like shit equally it's okay which seems like that's what they're doing which is why i'm saying people of the city of buffalo rise up and have them turn their comments back on how did they honestly how did they do the public board but then closed it honestly if i was a parent in buffalo public schools here's what i would do because the only thing these people care about is money and public schools are paid by having your kid in school that's why they get super upset if you don't have an excused absence and do all their paperwork and they want doctor's notes because if your kid misses so many days they don't get funding from the government right so if i'm i was a parent at buffalo public schools what i would do is i would get a bunch of other parents and i would organize school walkouts which schools in america are really into right now as long as it's for the correct political thing they'll be super pissed about this one because it's about protecting kids and being held accountable to do their own job they'll be they'll be mad but i would organize school walkouts so your kids just don't go to school every monday all fucking year long until they fix their shit and then they're not getting paid that's what i would do dude a week walkout would fucking crucify well no here's here's the thing too wednesday walkouts no if you did a week rhymes monday tuesday and here's the thing calls are happening it doesn't even need to be it doesn't even need to be everybody if even if you got 20 of the school body to just like no i'm taking i'm my kid's not coming in today i will say they couldn't they couldn't fight back against it without talking about the reason yep that's that's that's the big one is they they can't try to motherfuck the parents of these kids like oh well this this this if it's a a lot of them and b they would have to say the reason that they're protesting what are they gonna do call the cops and not talk to us at all about anything it would be school we get more school others it would be super weird if half of the buffalo school kids didn't go to school and the school got mad and called the cops because the parents weren't having excused absences for school which is illegal so they called buffalo pup or buffalo police department and the buffalo police department said no no no you can't tell me who the kids are that aren't showing up because that would be a violation of ferpa so you can't share that information with me sorry can't help you click see how that logic goes i mean i'm correct isn't it they can't share that information with you that's ferpa i mean that's that's their stance that's their interpretation of it that's their stance i didn't say that that's just using their legal jargon against them or i mean with them because they that's what they want they want that i like that a lot oh huh i mean that's what i would do if it was my kids i mean any other last pieces of advice mr richard from what you're dealing with yeah this isn't that's a really good that is what nick has gold you can replay that back a couple times man the next time the next time you get hurt they're fucked i'm planning on getting hurt right around november 2028 i've got a date with somebody yeah yeah i'll have a re-election the other thing is i've unfortunately planned on the investigation not holding people accountable so i have more information that i'll be sharing at a later date that i have to make sure is collected appropriately within my bounds as a as a citizen and then i will be sharing that man i bet you hate it when your enemies are smart yeah get ready for round two five well yeah listen whatever round it is get ready because it's gonna upset you almost as much if not more because i told you about it already it's gonna upset you a whole lot i'm gonna have to learn about this later i can tell you it in two minutes the second the and it like it literally that fast and you'll be like oh yeah well i mean if it's the truth it needs to come out oh it will you'll be able to FOIA it yeah 100 it's going to be something you'll be able to FOIA and get as soon as the request goes through it should not be an issue and something as apparent when you hear this episode like do something make a change there's worse if you don't do something and then you hear that you're like fuck i should have done it then yeah why did i wait get involved now and allow this to snowball in a good way yep brandon cody cody brandon we're just blending together at this point understand 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