PMS 2.0 1666 - TNF Recap, NFL Week 10 Preview/Picks, Ian Rapoport, Nick Saban, Boise State Head Coach Spencer Danielson, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to another glorious feel good the football Friday November 3rd's oh Friday 13th this sports program begins now football is the greatest in AJ I am here in Boise, Idaho in one of the most beautiful and recognizable stadiums on planet earth you know in 1986 a decision was made by then AD that he wanted the turf to become blue Astro turf the company that was actually creating all the turf for all the stadiums refused to do it he continued to push he said you know what I'll have somebody else do it how about that they inevitably end up making the turf and now you have one of the most recognizable stadiums in all of sport Albertson Stadium here in beautiful Boise sits right upon the football hills outside of Chuck Baganos backyard this place is gorgeous the views just out of a postcard in the team that calls this place home they've won 90% of their games here since the year 2000 Boise State 14 and a half point favored against Oregon State who has Malik Murphy former Duke quarterback playing for them with some studs across the board is Boise State continues to try their journey towards becoming a CFP team they say the scene tomorrow for game day is going to be absurd we haven't been here well game day hasn't been here since 2010 is a football time 29 years consecutively of winning season football here for the Boise State Broncos cannot wait to see what this place is about and they let us use the jumbo tron yeah if you get a good scan of this place go ahead Dennis go ahead and give a good pano this place it is it is an absolutely gorgeous facility and I think it's 36,000 I think 40,000 somewhere in that line huge sidelines and they just added the they just added this side that I'm in right here it's called the foothills club I guess it's a multiple multiple multiple million dollar donation you know upgrades we have 1200 sweet seats around here this is they love ball around here and it feels like I'm kind of sitting on the sun actually yeah it is it is not necessarily like the most comfortable there we go let me get myself there you go it is not necessarily the most comfortable sun positioning right now but it is a very comfortable town we had bacon sausage egg and cheese croissant sandwiches this morning fresh out of chuck and Tina Pagano's kitchen wow yeah look at the side we a little banana bread we had a fantastic feel good morning for this feel good Friday that's AJ Hawke College Football National Champion Super Bowl Champion Ryder Cup winner the boys are also there at the talks table at Boston Conor and at Tiesman and one half of the hammer down Cowboys AP tone hey boys we weren't able to do a boost last night but cam's cataboo getting into the paint felt obvious especially after his return now there was gonna be two ways it was gonna go for cam after he got benched for fumbling by John Harball a few weeks back he was either going to respond like a dog like I think John Harball thought he was and he went on dead that he was then he goes for 120 tweaks his hamstring mr's the game comes back last night and puts on a show for that New York Giants offense JJ McCarthy throws for a bunch of yards cam's cataboo gets in the paint twice their defense is in bad and what happens the commanders win the commanders win the game Jaden Daniels alongside the fond digs with a nasty tutt nasty tutt to win this thing walk out of there still in the NFC East Hunt still in the conversation for the playoffs and somehow the New York Giants lose a game in which they play pretty good football Jaden Daniels throws two interceptions into fourth quarter his first two picks of the season that normally would write the story of an L instead Washington who were we the commanders put a dub up and I'm fascinated by what's gonna happen down the stretch for all these teams in NFC East but certainly the commanders who with Jaden Daniels back on the field healthy looks confident two picks crazy defense we didn't really talk about too much until yesterday you start rattling off stats about this crew they hunt turnover differential continues to be great for them it's just AJ you pick the commanders plus three it was hard for me to do that especially in met life with everything happening and you were right cover money line dub what did you see from the commanders what did you watch last night and who's in control of this NFC East at this point AJ I mean I think that is clearly up in the air the NFC East after the commanders win last night the Giants would have had a chance to kind of stamp it that they were the kings of the NFC East they won last night but honestly what made me pick them was what Jaden Daniels had not been doing until last night he threw two picks last night he had and he didn't have any picks going into the game last night so I thought if they take care of the ball he'll find a way to scramble around some you know third and sixth third and eight situations but he did he got some some last night he had some of those runs where he was using his feet to allude defenders and get the first down but I feel like for him and for the commanders their whole but their back was against the wall this was it it was pretty much when our season is screwed we still have hope now and digs with that that touchdown digs the end was awesome like what the commander's fan Giants fan no Bruce is probably pissed seeing it it was a pretty amazing play that I think this is one of those that they will replay and we'll see this for years to come yeah and I like this the fun digs was walking around letting everybody know that he is him you know that's what he was saying is I am him I am him and he still is and we didn't know I didn't really know what was going to come from Stefan digs after the trade deadline your teams two five and one you know you you're already have a built-up legacy and career being a great football player you didn't get traded out of town how will you response the fun digs played his ass off last night and I love that this is the Stefan digs that we're seeing yesterday I said earlier in the year it felt like this is the best digs we've seen in years he ends up with a touchdown and late in the fourth to win a damn game Jane Daniels playing great oh geez a bit of a gosh yeah it is it did look a little gusty there I can affect the game tomorrow it could well I'll say you hear and voice he there is a chance that the win could get in there but watching Jayden Daniels and Stefan digs on that offense operate the way they did that was I think everything as a commanders fan you would ever hope for coming into the year in McCaffrey with the big brain on that kickoff returns Jordan Stott hits a 60 plus yarder then hits a 14 yarder I mean there was just some there was some commander stuff happening in the special teams in situational football where you go wow is that the same team that we've seen over the past couple weeks kind of trick off a couple games good for the commanders now tie I will say one of my favorite nights of last night in Herb Street didn't really give us a good cadence I we know we know Tony would have if he was in there James Winston came in there and emptied the clip I mean even I I mean James Winston going from the bottom of the barrel to draw people off sides multiple formations and shifts really thought they were gonna step ball at some point with the way he was talking is this the best best cadence you've heard in a while or worst cadence you've heard in a wildtie Schmidt I'm gonna have to go with worse because wow just listen if you're gonna do this you know what the reaction is gonna be afterwards you got to pick it up you got to pick it up you got it you got this has got to be successful because if you're gonna let the dogs out and who who when you follow that up with a ho ah to you know just I mean it felt like we were you know like Newt Rockney was out there coaching and we were we were calling plays in the 1930s and I mean listen I understand James is a goofball this is why we love him you know we love this type of stuff but when it isn't successful and you end up losing the game now he's gonna get killed for it and I don't know if that's necessarily fair but that's the way it goes so yeah I think you have to put this up there with one of the worst cadence is of all time harbaugh you know harbaugh want to bat for me said it was part of cadence yeah he said it was part of the cadence which I appreciate let's go to one half of the hammer down cowboys AP tone tone the overhits there was no rain what the hell's going on are we just insane toned yeah as someone who shockingly was on the under last night it was three nothing with two minutes left in the first half and then both teams scored touchdowns and first half that was kind of the nail in the coffin now you know they needed a late touchdown to go over in that situation but it did that was frustrating that was unfortunate but it was a great game all around yeah it was not as sloppy as we thought it would be herbie so it was a false bill of goods I mean it was pouring there was tornado it wasn't just herbie I don't think you know I think there's a chance that that was everybody with eyes with that thunder and lightning all damn day but we did get a forecast from there that maybe even there was going to be rain gear on this side line and if that happens Pagan that he told us a listen might as well go ahead and hammer that under no rain over hits tone yeah it's unbelievable Pagan that he did sweet if a one of the head coaches is wearing the rain pants it traditionally goes under 75% of the time Dan Quinn was wearing the rain pants so we were deep in the weeds last night as far as what the total would be it went over and the dog covered and the public lost which is not a surprise coming off of last week but we will see how it moves forward for this week 10 yeah AJ such a loss for draft Kings this past weekend they didn't even let us have a boost you know like that that's good and bad but I mean I feel it's still should have been able to get the boost I understand that they may have gotten beaten down a little bit but we should still get it yeah you know in that given Pagan the text is in real time hilarious you know it's like a complete If you guys got Cam Skataboo plus money right now, that's plus 125. That's what we like. Guys coming back, let's just roll that. We don't know about the boost this week, boys. We don't know about the boost this week. And we're like, well, what do you mean? You like Cam Skataboo? You guys are ones to say it's plus 125. Not us, like this is literally your book. But we got our teeth kicked in. On Sunday, they said, you know, and just like a sportsbook being that open about like, boom, I'll tell you what, everybody thinks that this is a big money. One, one, two bad weekends can really offset a lot of stuff. So I appreciate that we're starting to get a good grasp on what's potentially about to happen. You more so than all of us, AJ, as you start the weekend, 1 and 0 against the spread. Couple of stats that I found this morning during my researching, if you will, of current NFL. AJ, I think you'll find this interesting. I guess quarterbacks are getting hit more this year and dropbacks than they've ever in the past. It's like like 36%. I think the Guardian had an article this morning about it. It's like 36% pressures, 16% hits every time they dropback. Are we feeling that whenever we're watching these games, AJ? It does feel like there's more quarterback action happening, doesn't it? Yeah, and is that a compliment to the cool, to the defenses? What do we think that is? Yeah, I mean, I think maybe more defenses are bringing five and six more than they had in the past. I don't know, you could run the numbers. I'm sure compared to what they've done the last four to five years, but I guess they're getting hit more, but the hits are less lethal. Maybe you can't land on them. Obviously, like we said, you can't hit them on a pie, there's like a strike zone, but I think they know defenses know, like defensive coordinators know, these guys are too good. We can't let them sit back there and pat the ball and get their foot in the ground and let it fly. We got to get some pressure, especially off the middle and off the edge if we can. Yeah, I like where football's at right now. Last time was a hell of a game, man. That was a incredible game. For two teams that we thought were, you know, the NFC East, like this is what it is. NFL delivers, Jane Daniels played great. J.J. McCarthy, okay, con man, J.J. McCarthy. He throws for Tucson, throws a couple of touchdowns. Isaiah likely starts eating, shot at the him. He helped me, he was hoping with a underhand toss here to cam Scataboo in the first quarter. Is J.J. McCarthy gonna make it as a New York Giants quarterback? Is J.J. McCarthy close to winning another game for the New York Giants as they're starting quarterback? How do you feel that the world feels about J.J. as a New York Giants con man? I don't know if he's gonna, you know, be the starter going for, but it does feel like he's played himself into that like drew lock category, where if J.J. McCarthy is your backup QB, you don't feel terrible about it, which is crazy to think of, you know, our thoughts about him before the season compared to now. You know, I personally was impressed by a lot of the plays. You talked about the magic to Scataboo. That throw to Isaiah likely for the touchdown was unbelievable. He, it was a blitz. He had a guy in his face right here, and it is an absolute strike across the middle between two linebackers. So as far as the J.J. McCarthy kind of roller coaster goes, I think you're pretty high on him. I honestly wouldn't be pissed if he was my backup quarterback. Now, I don't know if you want him for a full entire season, just because I don't know if you can rely on him, you know, game on the line at the end, James is still coming in to do stuff as the quarterback when it comes to the touch pushing things, but I honestly am higher on J.J. McCarthy now than I think I've ever been in my life. That play right there was remarkable. He can run as well, which kind of got them in trouble because on that third and two, they decided to go with the J.J. McCarthy keeper. That sunny style is just completely sniffed out. I mean, this play had no chance when sunny styles is on the other side of the field. But as far as the J.J. McCarthy guy goes, you can chuck me down as Drew Locke and J.J. McCarthy are Sympathico. They are in the same vein for me. Sympathico, it's a great word. I love that word. And I agree, I'll view it the same way. Funny though how the conversation goes back to Kevin O'Connell, you know, with J.J. McCarthy. He wasn't able to work in Minnesota. Was he about to start to work in New York Giants organization? Now, as a couple of games, not as great as it was the first game, whatever, you know, maybe people weren't ready for him and then that fourth quarter where he came in for the final 11 minutes. Just a fascinating tale there, especially with Jackson Dart, another young quarterback in their first year head coach, John Harbaugh, trying to win games, trying to win the NFC's, despite an injury at your best and important position. I mean, he was spinning it kind of a couple of times. You know, there's a couple of throws where you wonder about like, is he a Lee Arm talent, you know? And I think we saw him at the Rose Bowl make a couple of throws that were outstanding and then also a couple of throws where we wondered like, can he throw it? And then last night, he had some. The age, he had a couple in the pocket. He's not scared to put in a tight window. We know that like that's, I give him a lot of credit for that. Obviously that touchdown to likely was just absolutely threading the needle. Yeah, the likely touchdown throw takes a lot of courage, especially with somebody in his face and there's two guys there. You know, you gotta really be able to block out a lot of the distractions to get that throw. And then at the end of the game, he said, I just, I wanted to put, you know, hopefully my playmakers in a position to make a play where he just hooked it down and bleak neighbors. Now that ends up not working out for them with a guy in his face. But like if Malik neighbors catches this ball, which we could have seen, which could have happened, you know, incredible play here by West Virginia's own result, Douglass kind of put this thing away. But if Malik neighbors catches that football there, people are gonna love that J.J. gave his guy a shot. You know, like J.J. gave his guy, his number one guy, an opportunity to make a play for his team. Instead, it's a pick. So it's J.J. McCarthy being a dumbass. You know, like that is just like such a fine line in the NFL quarterback world, especially because all we need to first down, we don't need a Hail Mary yet. But if Malik catches that, which he puts it in the area, you know, it's like, I like that he did that first team. Joining us now for a weekly segment, AJ. - Okay. - Is a man who's not a senior, he's a junior, but damn, he's a good one. He's got to be a best junior Ivers. - Probably. - There's princes around the world looking to be King one day, who are nowhere near as established and as competent at their gig as this junior NFL insider for ESPN and NFL Network. A man who's here for the weekly wrap-up with rap sheet and friends, us being the friends, he being rap sheet, ladies and gentlemen, he in rap pool. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What's up, prince? What's up, dude? You know, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good, life is pretty good. I'm out here in Boise. I was told it was gonna be cold. It's hot as hell out here, I'm the honest. It is the sun beaming right on my back. It's a perfect day out here in Boise. So life is good. How about you, rap sheet, life good for you? - Yeah, man, trade deadlines over. I'm much better now, much more relaxed now than I was. It's great. - Oh, so. - Vote and sit on the charger during sleep instead of under my pillow. It's great. - Okay, I like that, you know, like tooth fairy, you have your phone under your pillow. Just hoping that somebody will come in and drop a little value into your text messages, which certainly does happen. Shouldn't you love trade deadline day? - I mean, I would say you sort of love it. - Do we change the mindset here, AJ? - Can we not have him change his mindset? - Should be like build up. It's like a, it's almost like a mini super bowl for you. It's what you ran on all of them sprints for. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's why you lift all that weight. - All of that is true, I get it. But it's sort of like game day for players. It's like, it's what you do all the work for. It's what you train for. It's what you get ready for. It's the big stage. And there's a couple of these throughout the year. You got the day after the season, which we used to call Black Monday. There's free agency. There's the draft. - What's the call? - A couple of these cut down days. There's a couple of things. - New names. - New names. - But it's like, what's that? - Black Monday got changed. - New name. - Well, it's sort of when you name something, it sort of celebrates the firings, which we don't like to do that. - Oh, yeah. - So you take the name away and it's just a day where people get fired. - Black Monday. - I don't want to get negative connotation though. - Yeah, I don't want to get too negative. But there are like negative things that have happened that have days around them in the past, I think. - Yeah, like the stock market crash was black, whatever. - Like Tuesday. - Like Tuesday, thank you. - It's also black Friday, which is a great day. - Just say it right. - Yeah, you're right. - Yeah, love black. - So, one of my favorite things. - I understand that the families of the coaches who get fired certainly have to go through a lot in relocation and everything, part of the base. And are they the ones directly telling you they don't like that there's a name for the firings? - No, I mean the firing. - No, it's just sort of who told us. I mean, I went from, I just know like when we did, you know, we'd highlight programming and then if we'll never go in from black Monday to the day after the season and it's like, oh, okay. Anyway, I would say, - Hold on, hold on, that's a brainstorming. - 'Cause that's what we're doing in flexing too. - So flexing. - Don't tell me you're gonna have to over there. - Do you hear about the new name? - Yeah, new coach Monday. Maybe it is what we call it, new coach Monday. - New opportunity Monday. - Yeah. - Yeah. - New open head coaching spot Monday. 'Cause you can phrase it in a positive, 'cause guess what, some other coaches family is about to experience something for the first time in their life, great for them. - And even the first coach has a new opportunity. - Exactly, they can maybe go to a place that they like and maybe have success, but you know, every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end, you know, so it's kind of the life cycle. So you're right. - The beginning's Monday, that's not that catch you unfortunately. - Yeah, it's very catchy actually. Life cycle Monday is pretty good. Circle of life Monday, yeah. - Circle of life Monday, that's not bad. - Okay, so that's, maybe that's what we call it. - You know what's out of Monday. - What a wonderful phrase. - Yeah. I think that would be, I think that's not bad idea. Okay, let's move along from that. We're way away from that. Trade deadline day, Jid just passed. I assume somebody will ask you about Kirk Cousins and Kevin O'Connell, but heading into the weekend, there's some big injury combos happening around a league. More specifically, can I ask about Buffalo Bill situation just because we do. just had Spencer Brown on the program. I guess he was, he did not practice. Deon Dockins, I think, is back for him. Is there the Buffalo Bill so we all have in such high regard? I think at the offensive line, they've had a little bit of issue, and I think another one continues here with front of the program, Spencer Brown. Is everything okay there? And then we'll kind of bounce around the league. - Yeah, so I checked on that. He was great, by the way, in your show. I was very good. - Those segments are, those segments are very good. So he had, I thought he had an ankle injury in practice 'cause he was limited Wednesday, and then didn't practice Thursday if I remember correctly. But I was told it was actually during the game, tried to go Wednesday, wasn't able to really go, but considered to be a minor injury. So I don't know for sure if he's playing Sunday, but it seems like it's trending in that direction. And then Deon Dockins back at practice, generally for an offensive lineman, big old tough dude in your back at practice, do you find a way to play? - Okay, sounds good. Keep us up there on that. That just hit my phone because front of the program, hope they're okay. - Sure. Buffalo Bills, this could be the year for them. Another team that we thought maybe could be the year for them whenever the season started, and they just absolutely pounded the coats. Baltimore Ravens have found themselves in a fascinating situation. Jacopie Perset will start for them on Monday night against the chargers as we head to Baltimore. Lamar Jackson, we had a little bit of a heads up though on what they're expecting. Is this immediately what we knew or are we kind of learning in real time about what's going on with Lamar? And if the Ravens aren't in it, let's say that far from now, what's the conversation then? Is that been figured out? - Okay, so a sin to ask. I had reported on Sunday a six to nine week timetable for Lamar. They say six to 10, both are right. Dislocated and fractured thumb, he did have surgery. So wanted to make sure to find the right surgeon. It's as important as surgery as you could imagine. So maybe took an extra day or two, found a surgeon he liked, had surgery on the road to recovery. And I would say kind of to your point, the Ravens now become one of the most interesting teams in the NFL for me. And it kind of reminds me of last year for the Bengals, when we thought Joe Burrow might come back and I think came back maybe a little earlier than even I had imagined. I think he came back Thanksgiving last year, which was a week earlier than I had thought. But they trade for Jacobi Preset, which you rarely get a starting quarterback trade. They got a good roster if they can stay alive. And then you are going to get a Lamar Jackson return either in week 16. So they have Sunday then they have Thursday. So it'd be week 16 slash 17, or for that last game of the season. So what if they're like eight and eight heading into the last game of the season? And Lamar Jackson makes his return from a fraction dislocated thumb like, that is drama. And that's going to be awesome to watch. - That is drama. We hope that is the case. We have respect for Jacobi Preset and what he's able to accomplish. He was the first starting quarterback that was traded this trade deadline day. There was another obviously that stole the entire conversation. A.J. has a question about that, Raab. - Raab Sidi, he's talking about Kurt Cousins. Obviously going from the Raiders to the Vikings. - Bingo. - Kevin O'Connor. - Yeah, he's reunited. Kevin O'Connor will be there. I guess how did this come about quickly? Was this something that was in the works and how do you think it's going to go? - So the research that the Vikings did was in the works, right? Like they were calling it, you know, calling across the league, kind of feeling out, seeing what'd be available. And I think we knew Daniel Jones would be a name to watch. Cousins would be a name to watch. I know they ended up on Tuesday morning calling on Mac Jones to the 49ers. But really it seemed to me that Cousins was the one they wanted and that makes sense. They gave, you know, give a lot to get them, give a third round or that's a pretty good price right there. And like, he's been in the system. He costs almost nothing. The Creed thing was great. I laughed myself silly about that one. Cousin was nothing silly. - You laughed yourself silly. Were you like, I never laughed. - Yeah, and he's laughing funny. - Yeah, it was good. It's a ridiculous song. I mean, who listen to this song? - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - It's a rap sheet. - Are you kidding me? - ♪ Take me higher. ♪ - We all listen to it. Listen, I'm in Boise. Idaho, I'm singing that. The boys in Indianapolis picked it up. What does that mean? Have you ever been out here to smack you in your little mouth? - No, they like it there, I think. That makes sense. - They like it everywhere. Okay, especially in Minnesota now, because what they're trying to do is get taken higher by Kirk Cousins coming back into the building if you can get a metaphor or 100 alongside a Grammy, worthy band and performance on a regular basis. But yes, Kirk Cousins back. They're gonna go on a run here. Is that how you feel? - The big one against the Packers to start this entire thing. - Yeah, I mean, I feel like if they can just play like average offense and they should be better than that, but if they can play average offense, this becomes one of the best teams in the NFL because their defense is so good. And that's what I kind of liked about this move for the Vikings is they clearly feel like because the defense is so good, we have an opportunity. We have to seize it. Whatever it costs, like whatever happens, it's like get a viable quarterback and just get this thing rolling. And they now, they get a boost for the second half of the year. I think Cousins is gonna hit the ground running. It's an incredible opportunity to bring back someone who's been in the system, who they loved, who is playing really good football at 38 years old. Like this is an excellent situation for the Minnesota Vikings. By the way, mildly NFL related if only because you started for your team last year. Phillip Rivers officially named the head coach of NC State just seconds ago. - Yeah, we heard there were some rumblings that Phil Rivers was getting interviewed. And then there were some rumblings that he was likely gonna be the head coach. Now it is official. Phillip Rivers is the head coach of his alumni, the NC State Wolfpack, who had dore in there for what? Like 13, 14, 15 years, long time, previous regime. Phil Rivers who had been coaching high school ball down in Alabama, I think they've made it to the state championship a couple different times. I think he, whenever he joined the Indianapolis Colts out of retirement and he hadn't played quarterback for, I don't know, four and a half years. He was close to maybe a hall of fame vote. He comes back at the place where the Colts, he's basically talking to Shane Stiking about what the offense should be or shouldn't be. I think he has a good mind offensively. Will he be able to handle everything that is college football right now? That's a lot of shit. The GM, the everything, you name it like. - It's funny, man. - Funny you say that. I kind of wondered in my head if it'd be, not easier because the NFL is as high as it gets. But like, I wondered if the acclimation process would be a little less for him to, if he were to become a NFL coach. And obviously interviewed last year for the bills, like, I thought that might happen. This opportunity though, like, hopefully he has a really good GM to help him through this. But then he's got a really good quarterback prospect who I know they've been recruiting and who they like, who's also his son, who the opportunity to potentially coach his son is unbelievable. So I think this makes sense to this for a while. And at the end of four years, if the ends up in the NFL was the head coach, like I would not be surprised at all. - Wow. - I mean, yeah, and I think everybody respects his leadership. I think everybody appreciates how he goes about doing his business and his resume's legit. So whenever you talk about a person that could come in there and win people over quickly with authenticity, it's Phil Rivers. And I can't wait for these young bucks to hear him chirp them without swearing. Because he is gonna be a churper and he doesn't swear. I don't know if this age fully can understand that. Now let's pivot away from NC State Wolfpack. - Hey, that ACC could really benefit from them not being asked. - Oh yeah, I must say, that would be good. Maybe Phil's able to do that. Let's go to another Ask Division. Tom Diggs has a question about the Cowboys. - Yep, he is speaking of the NFC East and every team in that division feels like, they maybe have a chance, except for the Eagles. But the Cowboys, important game coming up this week against the Niners, what is the situation with George Pickens and Joey Porter Jr? Well, I believe both didn't play last week. I don't know if they're gonna play this week or not, but it's making headlines down there, Rep. - Yeah, so we'll start with the Pickens one. Sounds like he had a pretty good practice yesterday, which would, assuming it goes okay today and tomorrow, like I think he's got a pretty good chance of playing. Porter described his foot as pretty jacked up. He wants to get it under control. So the fact that, that's a lot of quotes. The fact that, shout out Jane though. The fact that he wants to get it under control. - Yeah, let's make sure we show our respects here for the amount of work it took to put all of this into a post as you. - I mean, so many, I can't type all that stuff. Anyway. - That's incredible work. And by the way, journalists writing articles on X might be the play. You know, Mark Bowley's been ahead of this from the entirety, but I think this is a good idea by Jane, but yes, a lot of quotes as you can break them all down for us, please, Rep. - So it sounds like he wants to get it really fully healed. The thing that's weird to me, and I feel like the sort of like subtext to both of these things is like, you know, what does it mean for a contract? And it's like, both these guys are trying to earn huge contracts that makes them rich forever. They want to play. Like Porter's not gonna be sitting out this huge year for him. And he's, when he is played in Dallas, he has been really good. - It's like two. - He sort of joked that 70% was good and I didn't really was. And I think Pickens too, like these guys want to play. They want to prove themselves. They're wanting a rich beyond belief and win games while doing it. When they're healthy, they're going to play. And you know, my sense is Pickens goes this week and hopefully Porter, if it's not this week is next week. - Okay, let's go to some more health stuff out of the NFC West. Ty has a question for you about front of the program. - Yeah, Rep, what is going on? with Puka initially it was hey he's not going to go on the IR and then McVey came out and said he is going to go on the IR probably and then Devante is still a couple weeks away like what's the deal there and did they were they aware this was going to happen because it feels like now the Rams might be in a little bit of trouble on offense and maybe should have looked for a wide receiver. So they did know the status of both these injuries before the trade deadline at least on Monday so they had you know two days to look around I never really got the sense that they looked that hard at receivers and you know I think the reason was because they got guys in their system and it's so specific that like how could you you could do it but it'd be a challenge to find someone to come in who's been there who knows it who can really hit the ground running right like it's not like Robert Woods who's the you know assistant receivers coach is going to come in and plan think at least so you know I think they decided going in house was better as far as the prognosis for these guys sounds like MCL is more of a concern than anything for pukus also got PCL and turf toe the hope is mid-December for him and then Devante had surgery on his hamstring that was they like to clean out the tendon and they thought week 12 is the target so that's we 12 is the Thanksgiving the pre Thanksgiving game it's the week after week after okay I think whatever that is week 12 was I know the target for them and like if they can just I feel like this has been the whole season for them just like be regular until everyone comes back hit you know hit your stride in the playoffs and then kind of do your thing hey Joe just be regular over there and have solid stools is that what you're saying yeah like old people yeah yeah yeah regular yeah just be regular you regular regular dumping regular peeing regular footballing and that'll carry over his success on the football field yes always does yes a huge part of it all right and they just got to do that until Devante is ready to get back and Puka and they you know could come back around the same time and then it's like you know and that's the thing with the Rams is they can always make it work even if they're not winning games they're in every like they can always make it work and Sean McVeigh's very good they got great depth there just be regular just be regular you mean like be average would that be another way yeah just keep by be regular oh so be regular is like when every other game yeah just stay alive like the right stay alive they can't really stay alive stay alive there you go we got I think in the NFL I don't think you can just be right it pretty elite league so regular well I don't think you don't need any charges regular is a little different I guess that regular has been not as good hey sock dude what's going to happen I don't like she like on what kind of change is going to happen the offseason in with the I don't like that bro I like every person over there there's no it's you make some food in every single ingredient you like and then somehow it goes together George Cookin and it comes out shite how's that happened how's that happen for the charger yeah that's got to be the most stunning I mean obviously the most stunning thing of this entire season is like you know they were so excited about Mike McDaniel the match you know he is with Harbour and you know in Miami with less far lesser quarterbacks than Justin Herbert not even saying to like the backups they were always good enough they always scored points running backs always got in the space they were always productive and it seems like in LA it's been just the opposite I mean I don't know what changes we're going to get during the season it's sort of at the point of it's like what's like what's the point what's going to change right like if you're going to fire someone it's like okay you did that then like what's what's the difference I would expect a pretty wholesale look at everything after the season though because like too much talent like this is a place that really should win games and I don't quite understand why they're not the acclamation process is it's over like it's should be acclimated by now right just everything that's could possibly go wrong has gone wrong shout out Murphy's Law there good quote that was on a sign at Rudy subs and pizza 286 how can I help you growing up and I will never ever forget it you talk about Murphy's Law out there then you said wholesale changes wholesale means top the bottom there we talking like Jim Harboss going to be the coach of the coach Justin Herbert's going to be a quarterback somewhere else like what type of wholesale changes are you talking about like what's realistic you think for us to view at this stage of how the season has gone well first of all with the with the Herbert thing like I've gotten zero sense that they would move on from him at all and I know when teams called it was like non-starter right like Herbert is here we like our guy I don't know I don't want to make any procomations about anyone else because I don't I don't know enough right now in the seasons not over but I would imagine when you have a season that is as horrific as this is you take a look at absolutely literally everything because like this can happen it just can't so you have to look at all of the things and I would imagine coaching staff it's just everything everything everything there's they're saying rude things about the general manager who we lock over there they got a new nickname for the offensive coordinator off the Mick D thing he's got going on I hope they figure it out and look promising going into the offseason because every other team I think would be very pumped to have Herbert I think any team that needs a head coach would be very pumped to have Jim Harboss if you had an offensive coordinator position open I think you would definitely interview Mick Daniel for that particular position so I'm just as dumbfounded I assume as the Chargers fans are but it's a difficult decision whenever you got a lot of pieces that everybody else wants but you can't win with it that's kind of what the coach crazy but let's go to the show you talk about changes sounds like they wanted to make some changes maybe they need to trade away their entire medical department after what we're learning to go ahead con man yeah right actually something that also used to not be kind of the norm is no trade backs and seemingly that is kind of been brought back to the forefront a Henley their stud linebacker you can see there on the right side he's had 100 tackles last three years was traded to the Broncos and these are the other two kind of trade backs that we've seen this year with Crosby and the Eagles past Russia but when it comes to Henley what's the situation here because Harbott even came out and basically said like you know this is a problem because the Broncos allegedly had a third party medical staff look at Henley's medical records and then they deemed it hey we need less compensation for this player like what is this situation is this normal it feels like it's not but this year it has been for you know other kind of medical teams to deem a player not worth trading for what is the situation here and why is this happening so before the Crosby situation I'm sure it happened I just can't remember anyone like it and that was obviously and you know that was an extreme one but it sounds like what happened here was you know so the deal was done probably it like feels to me like 230 eastern time so like really really close to the deadline right and then the trade is agreed to it happens and then the players got to get a physical and like the way these things work you can't get a physical beforehand unless you do it really sneakily like the Cam Jergens situation where like next thing you knew team doctors were in the Eagles building they were doing a physical and then the trade was official like you can't basically can't get a physical until the trade happens and so you sort of do it on faith and the Broncos gave them the physical and based on their exams of his knee they felt like they should it should be less compensation and you know as of now they do have a right to do that and the chargers have a right to not agree and so from my sense both were good with the fourth rounder it was a fourth rounder in a future five both were good with the fourth rounder it was the Broncos wanted less wanted to give less than that future five they wanted to make it like a pick swap or make it like a seventh rounder and I think at that point the chargers who no doubt were frustrated as you heard from Harball with the situation frustrated that they want less compensation or kind of like we didn't even really want to trade this guy anyway we like him we would have tried to resign him no matter what this is let's just let's just not do the trade and so instead of agreeing on you know everybody tried to make it work but at the end it was like we're not going to agree no one's happy trade is off and you know I'll be curious and see if there's some sort of way to like fix this like basically you could say like you know after a trade is agreed to you can't renegotiate the picks like maybe that there's got to be a way to figure this out but not a good no anytime you can get a medical thing involved yeah because it's all subjective to the doctor I mean that you can all you're always going to have this out for teams to be able to get out of deals I think every team knows that too I don't know yeah I wasn't born yesterday you know but I think a lot of these teams have probably utilized similar practices on buyer's remorse situations granted if it is a perfectly clean physical which will never happen with a veteran NFL player right I mean actually never happened so you just gotta yeah it's weird how things get reported deals happen players are told hey you're leaving town and then all of a sudden yep actually you're not and we're going to expect you to play back this other place well what did this physical say I couldn't play well just not in the future it's just you know it's a fascinating gimmick it's a very fascinating gimmick as it has been happening in the NFL for a while players just have to show up in play teams we'll try to trade for players and then immediately say we We should have done that, we should have done that now. Anything we miss here is we wrap up. on this glorious wrap up with rap sheet and friends us being friends, you being rap sheet, anything big that we should be talking about that we haven't hit like if this was big day with big shrakes breaking down all the big please, what would you guys talk about on that? I think we hit it all, I mean the, you know, commanders kind of saved their season last night. That was a, you know, I think that was a good one. But there's no, there's no, you know, that would that would be like your pun to me, that would be like you saying, hey, I can't want to give a, I can't want to give an opinion about what the commanders did last night. No, that would not be me. What do you think about the fact that they won and had a big win against the division rival on national TV, for sure, makes my mornings much easier. So good job for me. Why is that? No, no frustrated phone, no like, hey, just checking, you know, everything good, you know, wins are much better than losses. What about the giants? Yeah, you live in the tri-state area. Times are good, no matter what. Times are good anyway. No matter what. No one day lose. Five three times one, five three and one. Hey, that one might matter that down the road. We never know. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, man, having an incredible weekend can't wait to watch you on TV throughout. And we'll see you next week, Junior. All right. Thanks guys. Take care. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We do have to clarify something here, journalism. I think I'm the one that said it. So it might be me. That's kind of the problem here. Hi, it's me on the problem. It's me. Are you NFL network senior insider? Are you also NFL never junior insider? I've never had a title officially senior. So just in time. I've never had a title. So whatever you say, I'm good with. Yeah, but I think the issue is if chef, he's been told that he's also NFL networks king, you know, that's something. He just, he probably I don't really worry about titles. I'm just trying to help my job break stories. Yeah, I mean, if you just come, listen, how about this? I got an idea, I got an idea. When you come up with a name for the Monday after the season, you can also come up with a title for me and then put it right there. That's what it'll be. We didn't come up with the title junior. Somebody had to come up with that title, right? I think it was you. No, it's not a real thing. Hold on. So everything we've been doing because in my head, Mandela effect, I think I just this is actually your title. You're going to call there. No. Thank you for us changing that national instead of for ESPN husband, Alia. And then go to chef. These then. I think junior was, I think that was stamped on this show pat. I'm pretty. Yeah, you create it. I'm pretty sure that's bad. Yeah. Senior right there. Senior because you saw chef. He's senior. He was swinging his thing around. What did you know? He did that to himself. Yeah, just come up with a new one. See, like, I know. You know, we're going to box each other. You're going to do celebrity boxing against chef. He some day, teammates. Why would we box? No, we like the pushwackers, not like boxing. Oh, are you scared of him? Freaking hell, we'd be legion of doom. Oh, I like that. Maybe I like the, I like to your L.O.D. Hawking animal out there. Maybe your road warriors, you guys. Now, I will say original, the original WC or not. They were, uh, you guys stunner reclinered that Starbucks guy. Yeah, I forgot about you doing that. And then, sorry, we talked about Netflix and the ringers, Tom Pelicero, I mean, he's he's, you know, everyone's a L.O.K. King. King is senior. Prince of be junior. And then what do you have down here that's like trying to climb the ranks? Quarter. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I don't think that is the right short time. Cryer. Maybe. Uh, uh, cousin Greg. We'd like to let calm down. We appreciate all of his, um, all of his contributions is trade that like day. He was, he was magical. Involved a lot of his folks. But the cults, obviously active, Minnesota, very active. Denver Broncos try to make a trade that didn't work. All right. We appreciate your rap. Have a phenomenal weekend, buddy. All right. Take care, guys. Look forward to the dramatic conclusion of my name. All right, junior. That's a incredible. I thought for sure that was his actual title. I didn't know we don't know when, when they merged and they, you know, shefty and rap, she became on the same team. Is that when shefty put senior in his bio? Yeah. Brahman. Hey, like my brain had to have done this for some reason. I'm not, you know what I mean? I've been with me a long time. I can't, you know, sure. I am miles and miles ahead of him. Did you read my title? Senior. Yeah. So there are any two seniors. Well, it's like, well, actually, the SP and there's like a thousand seniors, which is a part of the problem. There's nobody. Yeah. But he is, I believe, only senior NFL, inside. Ty, you know better than me. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we got to set up for an absolute legend out here in Boise. Please take it away, Thunderdome. Yeah, we do. Obviously, we get most people that watch the show know who is going to be set up there with Pat at the nice beautiful set up at Boise, but Tony, I wanted to come to you quick, because we might talk some college ball here shortly. Yeah. What are the, when you look at the slate for this week, what sticks out to you the most? And boys, you guys be ready too, because I'm going to ask you. Yeah, let's let's leave it up. Okay. Something the imagination in case people don't know who's coming up. Obviously, a start tonight, the big one tonight between Illinois and UCLA, Illinois six and three people quietly do not know that UCLA undefeated and then they have to stay undefeated. So, you know, something to watch there tonight. A huge one in the ACC with Wake Forest and SMU Wake Forest sitting on the outside of the college football playoff. They need a huge road wind down an SMU to stay alive in that situation. Tennises in the playoff right now. They're dogs going to A&M though. Maybe, or maybe there are two and a half point favorites. I can't remember. Big one there. Georgia's number one team in the country going up against Mizzou, who is never, ever going to go away quietly into the night. Then the, I think personally, the biggest one of the weekend is IU, USC, because IU is not in a good spot right now, if they lose. And then USC, if they win, they are in a really good spot to make the playoff. And then obviously, Texas and LSU is a huge one. LSU loses. They are at, and then Oregon State Boise, you know, that's where game day is. So, that's a big one. Boise, he needs a win to stay in the driver's seat for the group of six playoffs. Yeah, speaking of game day, Pat, what's going on? Looks like you have our special guest with you. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest college football coach of all time. Coach, Steven. Coach, how are you? Boss, great to see you. I don't know if you saw this coach. I'm going to pull us out here a little bit. Did you see they got our thing up on the jumbo trip? Yeah, it looks great. Good hospitality here. It does look great. Yeah. Did you expect it to be this perfect of weather getting out here, and have you ever been out here? What are your thoughts as you touch down here in the beautiful state of Idaho? What is a very pretty place? I've never been here before. So, I was kind of excited about making the trip, seeing the blue turf, and kind of checking the whole place out. Looks good, though. What did you learn about their team? You know, 29 straight years of winning football out here, Boise. We asked Ian Johnson to be the celebrity guest picker, why that is. He says just blue collar, place, blue collar, football, and also they got a lot of great running backs. What do you see from this year's Boise State team or Boise State in general that has you excited about celebrating football out here? Yeah, well, I think their offense is really, you know, like top-notch, maybe really good quarterback. The guys started a lot of games, won a lot of games. They've got a good runner, and I think the big question for Boise is how about the defense? How about the defense? Because, you know, they've given up quite a few points. They've given up some explosive plays, and I think those are the things that they have to address, especially playing somebody like Oregon State, who I know they got some quarterback question marks, but who have some big play, explosive play players like Ligree. And so it'll be interesting to see how that goes, but I like Boise's team, and I think if they can eliminate some of these big plays, they're a good football team. Oregon State will have Malik Murphy formerly of Duke playing quarterback for him. You talk about the Cree, the wide receiver. He is smashing records across the board. Has the chance to be explosive, but on his blue turf, it feels like they win 90% of the time since the year 2000 here. This blue turf won in in 1986. Do you know that? No, I did not know that, but that's a pretty dagger on good winning percentage at home. Yeah, I was about to say, why didn't you do that down in Alabama? I thought you were trying to turn. Yeah, I thought you maybe put full crimson grass out there. Maybe you'd win more games. What was our record on the grass that we had at home? I don't think you won any games. I don't think you won many games. Home field advantage is very real, but not. Can I ask you to donate it says, because you know, you're in two. Pretty good. She didn't even know that eight times. He probably remembers all eight walking out of there is with an Elb. 102 and eight. What's that percentage? It's got to be like what? 93%? 94%? 90, 91 to the 93, 92.7 is what I'm seeing. Hmm. Well, you got some mathematicians out there too. And not bad. You know what the calculator and a phone can do these days. We'll tell it. You're about to say something. I just wanted to ask because, you know, Ian Rappaport's on here just about every week before I am. And, you know, he he covered Alabama. And I want to know, do I get credit for him being a part of like people who moved up in the organization, even though he would go in the top five pain in the asses we've ever had. You know, he, uh, I don't think I've ever heard him one time give you credit. Now I think about it. We were actually just trying to I think of a new name for him, a new title for him. Top five pain in the asses is what you are submitting? - Yeah, but he does a really good job. - Yeah, don't lie, don't lie. - He's come a long way. - Of course. - I like listening to him. He's got a lot of good insider information. - Okay, you have a lot of influence over the state of the current college football world. Every coach seemingly has a tie to you. Every game is gonna have some sort of record breaking, especially in the SEC. Can you tell me a little bit about what Alabama proved to you last week because Lane Kiffin, obviously, your protege, Kaelin de Boer, working in your building, actually coming in there, large shoes to fill, has been able to kind of create his own culture, his own team, you've even said that this year. And I think he was very appreciative of you acknowledging that. They go down there and pound. I mean, they absolutely pound. LSU still has Texas and Tennessee left, so they can still find their way into the CFP. But Alabama might look like the, maybe the best team in ball right now. Do you feel like that? And what did you see from that Alabama team? - Well, really impressed me about the Alabama team was, the competitive toughness they showed, and the poise they showed in a difficult place to play at LSU, and got behind 17-13. And when it seemed like the momentum of the game had completely shifted in LSU's favor, they went right down the field and scored, and then took over the game and controlled the game. So I was very impressed with their competitive toughness in the game, and that's what you need to do in the SEC to be able to win on the road and some of these difficult places to play. Now, I think the big question is, is how do they deal with that success? How do they deal with that victory? They're going to a place like Vanderbilt. That was always a place I did not like to go play. But hopefully, because they lost up there a couple of years ago, they'll have the proper respect and go play another good game up there. - Okay, so the March Madness tournament provides opportunity for guys who are good at college hoops. It's a kind of showcase to the world that they are the best, you know. At West Virginia, we had a kid named Joe who earned himself into a lottery pick strictly because of March Madness. Everybody keeps saying Kielum Russell is going to be the quarterback next year. He's going to be the quarterback next year. Who's to say that he doesn't just go crazy during this playoff run, much like what we saw from Fernando Mendoza, and maybe stamp himself as the guy of college football, which I think we all think he can be, right? Have you ever seen Kielum Russell grow enough that maybe this season, he says I'm the guy, as opposed to what everybody's saying, like next year, next year, next year. Can he pull it off this year, I guess, is a massive question? - Well, I think he's a very talented guy, and I think he's growing a lot this year and the experience that he's got. And, you know, if he could just eliminate the bad plays, you know, that's one of the things that I always told the quarterback. You know, guys that are great competitors always want to make plays. But sometimes there's not a play to be made, and if you force it at the quarterback position, it's going to lead to some bad stuff. And that's what I see him growing in. I didn't have those kind of plays, you know, at LSU, and this guy's a very talented guy. He's the right kind of person. He's nursing an ankle, so he's a little questionable for this week, so hopefully he gets back healthy and can, you know, do what you're talking about, doing and lead these guys to where they want to go. - I'm impressed by, he's tall, he's athletic, he could spin it the way you guys talk about him, the person, feel special. He's not the only SEC quarterback, though, that is incredible at what he does and young. Huge news coming out of Mississippi State. Connor has a question for you about big money quarterback staying put, which I know you were trying to poach him to college game day earlier this year. Coach, go ahead, Con, man. - Yeah, Coach, Kamarro Taylor, I'm assuming back in the day, you probably would have gave him $10 million under the table, but today it's kind of public now, and he's getting $7 million to return to Mississippi State. Is it pretty crazy that we're at this point in college football where it is breaking news that a team's quarterback is resigning for X amount of money, one, and then two, what do you think about him going back? Is this kind of a, you know, college university franchise changing type move for Kamarro Taylor is going to continue to put Mississippi State on the map, even though, you know, they've had Dak Prescott and very good players in the past? - Well, I think for Mississippi State, Kamarro Taylor is someone who can reestablish the tradition of that program. I think Jeff Libby has done a really good job there, but to have a quarterback of that caliber to make a commitment, he's going to draw other players in to come and play with him because he's that good. So I do think now to your point about somebody making $7 million, as a college player, I don't know if that's sustainable as a model, and I'm just hopeful that we continue to develop young people while they're in college, personally academically and athletically, and hopefully that's possible when these guys make that kind of money. I don't know if it is or it isn't, but I know Kamarro Taylor is a great person, he made it the right stuff, and I think he'll do a great job from Mississippi State. - A lot of pressure for these young folks to get millions and millions and millions of dollars. They are expected to take care of a lot of people. I mean, that happens to NFL guys whenever they get drafted, first time with money, your family, your community, your friends, a lot of people looking at you to kind of help them out. It's difficult to navigate, especially if you don't come from an area or a lot of people are familiarity with money as a whole. So a lot of pressure on these young guys. I've been very impressed with how they've been able to handle it. We still don't know what the long term effects you're going to be from at all, but Kamarro, we all assumed he was going to leave just by nature of the beast. And I respect the hell out of the Mississippi State alum, Don Ernst Hartville. You know, hardy, the musician hardy, do you know who this is? Incredibly talented lad. He wrote a song that actually showcases, I think it had like some classical music all the way to like scream rock. He is an incredibly talented guy. Loves Mississippi State, very successful musician. He is, I think, pretty involved down there alongside a bunch of people. And I think they heard the expectations of them not being able to keep up, you know, 'cause like Miami has done a great job at bringing in a quarterback position for a one year or two years and being able to have a bunch of money. Obviously, other schools, Oregon has a bunch of money, even though everybody attacks Oregon. They're not the only ones. Texas has a bunch of money. Who knows what their quarterback situation is going to be? Like so many places that we know have a bunch of money. Mississippi State was not in that conversation. So I think the natural expectation was, somebody's gonna get to Kamario Taylor and get him out of there. Instead, Mississippi State steps up in a huge way. They keep them there. Now they can recruit, build every, it's like, that's huge. And if they win, more money's only gonna become available for them, just like the Indiana thing. Everybody thinks it's a sign that he got to Indiana. He was given like a blank check. It's like, no, he was given money. But if he won't know one, they weren't gonna continue to give him money. It's like for this, you get the boosters and alumni all aligned. And if it works out, they'll continue to do it. But if they don't, they start to back off. And that's where I think everybody is kind of scared of. If once this thing doesn't work out, are we gonna lose schools and institutions 'cause there are people gonna back off? TBD, I think Kamario's good for them though. - Yeah, I think it's good too. But, you know, to the panels, playing out there, we never cheated to get players. But this is something that was the- - I never said, I never said, I never said, I never said. - I never said, I never said, I never said, I never said, I never said. - You guys went from the boys to the panel on that comment. (audience laughing) - Oh, I'm a boo-hoo coach. - But let me just tell you something about Mississippi. I go a long way back recruiting in Mississippi. And when I was at LSU, Jackie Cheryl was at Mississippi State. We were recruiting a guy in Jackson, Mississippi. I won't mention any names. And Ole Miss was recruiting him. And LSU was recruiting him. And Mississippi State was recruiting him. And Jackie calls me up and says, I want you to turn Ole Miss in. I said, what are you talking about? He said, well, they're cheating on this player. And I said, like Jackie Cheryl's telling me, you know, that's like the pot calling a kettle black, you know? And I said, why don't you turn 'em in? And he said, well, we got a thing in Mississippi. We don't turn each other in. (audience laughing) - So they were partners in crime. - Yeah, hey. - So I was on the outside looking in on that one. - Hey, we need you to turn them in. Why can't you? Well, we're actually gonna partners with them right now. So don't tell 'em it was us to told you either. We need you to be pissed off about this. College football is such a chaotic place. Especially now it is. We just talked about Camario staying in Mississippi State. Could be an entire franchise university, changer, what a cool decision. NC State's going through a massive turnover. With a first-time college coach now, expected to take the lead. AJ has a question for you, Coach Sabin. - Coach Sabin, I know. He's talking, obviously, Phillip Rivers was just named the head coach of NC State. I guess, what kind of advice would you have if he was reaching out to you? Like, what is the first-time big-time college head coach? Like, what are some pitfalls you would try to steer him away from? - And don't give us bullshit answers here. - Give us actual answers. - Yeah, what kind of challenges you would have first year, especially he's been a high school coach, but now it's another stage. - Yeah, well, first of all, I think that Phillip Rivers probably from a technical standpoint, from a football standpoint, being an NFL quarterback for so many years, being a smart guy, he probably will be able to coach the players in that part of it. But being a college coach to me is all about being a program builder. So, you know, recruiting is a really big thing. And developing relationships with people, having to kind of staff that can develop those relationships and provide the leadership for these guys. Little different in terms of how you got to motivate, college players versus being an NFL player he wasn't high school probably a lot of similarities to that but I think the program part of whether it's academics whether it's the discipline in the program how you're going to practice and be most efficient and how you spend the time which is a limited amount of time in college because of academics all those types of things to me are going to be the key in terms of how you evaluate the players you have on the team how you evaluate players you're going to pay how you're going to evaluate the guys you're going to recruit you know all these things take an expertise that you know maybe hasn't been something that he's experienced he's probably capable of but if he can set up the right protocol for those things I think he has a great chance to be successful so like Bill Bella check goes down in North Carolina he obviously reaches out to you because of your relationship with them and you kind of break down what you think he's gonna expect and how it's a little bit different first year full nightmare for him now he seemingly has built a little bit of a culture established a little bit of a culture Phil Rivers obviously not Bill Bella check coaching in the NFL but he has coached this generation of people and athletes I think what should be the expectation here for Philip Rivers down there like what what how should we be viewing this as outside looking in and how should NC state people view this we don't know what their financial backing is we don't know what their NIL is let's just assume it's like standard for ACC football down there what should we expect out of Phil Rivers here early well I think that you know people develop a great expectation based on you know what the hire looks like you know and on the front page which really doesn't win any games and Bill Bella check's case you know I think the timing of his hire was you know a big disadvantage to him because he couldn't take advantage of the portal I think in Phillip Rivers' case they're hiring him early enough that he can get and have a very positive recruiting season which should enhance their ability to make some improvement in the first year but I don't think anybody has enough patience now in terms of helping helping people make a commitment to the people but then have the patience to allow them to build a program and a culture because it takes a while I mean my first year at Alabama we lost to ULM and went seven and six but that's right and they they were questioning whether they hired the right guy but we were developing a culture well in this day and age of football if people were making huge contributions to the roster in terms of financial contributions and you went seven and six in the first year when they had the expectations that they have at Alabama I might not have survived that but I think people need to have more patience but when people give money and people are paying players you know they want to have a say in what's going on so there's a lot more external influence I think than there used to be in college well good luck Phil we assume the NC State Wolfpack community will be completely behind him we are big fans of his what he's done for Indianapolis what he's done for the NFL good luck in the college where there seems to be so much to figure out a team that has kind of figured it out a little bit seemingly in North Carolina Wake Forest on three is on three is on three that's uh you know what I mean no I don't but that's like the class and we're to say it is on three yeah AJ this is on three okay and he could say undo on 12 if you really wanted to but on three is reporting that Wake Forest is finalizing extension with their offense a coordinator Rob Egel Egel okay congratulations to him he's been a part of a massive storyline down there at Wake they're where they're ranked at right now fascinating couple teams kind of sitting in one particular spot Thai has a question for you coach Saban yeah coach what would be your message to a team like Wake Forest or Texas Tech or Houston going into the games this weekend because I understand you know like the rap boys and hey don't read anything that's out there but this college football ranking show every Tuesday night it's the only thing people on TV you're talking about on Tuesday and Wednesday it's the only thing people on the internet are talking about like the conversation is massive and those teams who are sitting on the bubble like what is the message to them when you know all the players probably understand like hey man we're just we're on the we're on the outside looking in right now and we might need some help what what do you say to them to kind of maybe you know make sure that they don't go out there playing super tight when they're that close to making it to the playoff well I think the number one thing is you got to control what you can control and the one thing the players can control and you can control on your team is what are the things that we have control of and that's how we play so what is our commitment to being able to play at the highest level when our best is needed because if you're a football player now's the time to be your best as a football player because you got to finish the season but you got to focus on the right stuff and there's a difference between you know being committed then just wanting to do something so if you're committed you're going to do all the things off the field and on the field in practice in preparation to be able to go out there and play your best that's what you can control that that's what you need to focus on you need to cut out all the external noise and focus on what you got to do to beat the team you got to play and you know what I used to say to our guys is you're playing in a big game you know assume you're playing against the best player you ever played against let's go out and practice this week so you can dominate your box against that particular player and that kind of you know like laser focus is what's going to help you go out and play to your capabilities as a team and win these games because I don't I don't care what you say you need help from somebody else you you can't control that you can control how you play and win in the games you're supposed to win what did you think about the rankings you know I think to be honest with you I think at this point the rankings are a little bit old shit if you want to know the truth about it I think there's so many games to play in so many scenarios and all that that you know who wins what is going to determine like UCLA being for doesn't mean nothing if they can't win out and beat USC USC being 20 it doesn't mean anything if they beat Indiana and go beat UCLA so I mean there's just so much out there and I think these these games as you see people move up and down based on wins and losses I mean Indiana didn't even play and they draw back what five spots or something yeah so I'm like how does that happen but it happens but if they win this week they'll be right back in the mix of things I think he just gave his answer right there to what you were saying there yeah if you're on the outside looking in it's all bullshit yeah what do you just say I love and I love that take from a next coach I think for us though as we're just kind of looking at it we're trying to see tells from the committee on who they like them dropping Indiana I think that was so that they could do stuff for other teams maybe in Indiana obviously coach dignity I like that he takes he took shots at the NCAA when he was a JMU he'll take shots at the committee he'll take shots at everybody so I respect him doing that and fighting for his team but I think the committee is just sending some messages with what they're doing here in these early ones whenever it becomes you know push comes the shovedorn down the slate who do they like who do they don't like feels like they like trenches football feels like they like bigger teams faster teams stronger team which leads one particular team that just on L to your Alabama squad tone has the last question for you here coach Saban yeah coach I want to talk to you about a big one this weekend Texas goes to LSU obviously you're familiar with both of those head coaches and playing at LSU at night obviously LSU cannot afford another loss to get to four losses that would most likely knock them out in Texas doesn't want to be a part of that three lost club what's your thoughts on that huge matchup down in Baton right Baton Rouge well I think the key thing for Texas is Arches played well in November he played well last week against Missouri but I think when you go into LSU your players have to have a lot of poise and be focused on the right stuff because it is a hard place to play so um but I also think if you can go execute at LSU you know they they kind of lose interest in the game quick and that's not a good thing for your team now I do think LSU is very capable I mean they put up like 500 yards or something last week against Alabama they didn't score in a red zone they didn't make the fourth down they needed to make so um you know those kinds of plays and special situations in the game who is going to be able to come through in those special situations I think that's going to be the difference in the game you know last week Texas did it at Missouri Missouri couldn't do it when they needed to do it and that was the difference in the game 2020 game so and I think it's going to be the same kind of game this week for Texas and LSU yeah we love college football every week it seems like absolute insanity takes place who will change the course of the season this weekend when separation Saturday was last Saturday what do you call him this Saturday do you have an aim for it? I don't I really don't they all separation Saturdays because people are going to win people are going to lose some are going to be out some's going to play their way in so it's always that way yeah you're right we're separating every single Saturday every Saturday you know what I'm never separating from hopefully getting to work with you buddy I enjoy it man hey don't worry about what Connor said yeah sorry for making you cry coach I didn't realize you're gonna be such a baby about you don't worry about him hey I've been I've been accused of words yeah you thought from Connor obviously Connor has a lot of thoughts as he should but he wasn't talking about you he's talking in generals I think in generals that's coach Sabin we're back on the other side be a friend Tell a friend something nice, my change in life. Jay and Jaylin. Warren's coming in. Whoa! All right, so. Hello, beautiful people. And welcome back to this wonderful, magnetic, fantastic, children Friday, this 13th hour to the program begins right now. Football! It is the greatest thing. That is why I'm out here in beautiful. You see Idaho, that is AJ Hawk back in the Thunderdum. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Also, the Thunderdum is the toxic table at Boston Conor and at Thai Schmidt. Good to see you, Lads. You look fantastic. Thank you, Lads. Good to see you as well. I mean, hey, wardrobe change already. Is it really that hot out there? It looks freezing this morning. Okay, that did happen mid-first hour. As we see the one half of the hammer. Bad! Cowboys, AP Thunder as well. Yeah, I didn't know if you guys would notice or not. I had a brown, thick, heavy, hair, a Travis Kelsey American Eagle collab, a flannel one. And I thought it was made for ranching out night. Sure. And from what I had heard and what the weather was, it felt like the perfect thing. Then I get here, we're on the sun. We are actually on the sun here where we're at. It is a perfect day in the sun. It is cooking. And if you just want to take a little look around with where I'm at, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Albertson Stadium, here in Boise, Idaho. For 29 years, this place has been home to a winning football program. Now, 1986, they put that blue turf down. And they changed sports forever. Now, there's been some conspiracies in some theories that maybe birds were taking their lives because they thought this field was a pond or a little bit of water. Maybe they could come down and get a fish. And inevitably, all they would get is a one-way trip to the afterlife. But instead, that was all lie. These birds actually came in, became big fans of this particular field. This stadium hosts Oregon State tomorrow as the Boise State Broncos look to maintain the team. That will represent the power six in a college football playoff. You can feel the history of ball here. It is out of a postcard. Lucky and thankful for tomorrow morning, 9 a.m. Eastern. And as college game day kicks off, for the first time in 16 years out here in Idaho, I think it's going to be a hell of a celebration. A ball, lucky to be here, thankful to be here. AJ, last night, NFC East celebration, as the commanders get a huge win over the New York football giants on prime time. You knew the commanders were going to cover. I don't know if you knew if they were going to win. The NFC East now has been launched right back into what the hell is going to happen over there. What was the fond digs, punching one in with less than a minute left in the game to win that thing for the commanders, AJ? Yeah, I think Jayden Denos, he's feeling healthy. He does look weird with that gigantic JJ Watt brace. He's wearing, but he seems to handle it very, very well. And it's good to see digs making plays. And we saw the couple linebackers. I know I'm a bit biased with my Ohio State ties, but yeah, both sides of the ball, sunny styles, Orville, Reese both of them. I think I had 13 tattoos making their presence known all over the place just big physical freak second run. So I think these teams are both going to be fun to watch in the coming years. All right, away from Thursday night, let's go to Sunday night football against the Cincinnati Bengals. We'll be the Pittsburgh Steelers, fresh off of a lie. Going into that by, they had a man on their team that was number two in the NFL and yards from Scrimmage. This man's leading the NFL in yards per carry, ladies and gentlemen, running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Draft undrafted in 2022 has become a man that they can lean on for everything. They say he's too small, this guy can't pass block. Boom! He will. This man's too small, maybe he won't be able to be seen in the past game. Bang, he gets it, he's gone. And running, he'll run your ass over. Ladies and gentlemen, the ever explosive and electrifying Jalen Warren. Good afternoon, good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon to you. I'm out here in Idaho. I know you know a little bit about this part of the country. You taught state school. You also want to snow? I didn't know they had a football team. I did not know snow had a football team when I was doing my research on you. It feels like you've been overlooked your entire football career. And now this year you become focal point of Pittsburgh Steelers offense. Can you tell me a little bit about that transition into being spot like guy this year and Mike McCarthy's offense, maybe verse everything else that your football career has been overlooked almost? Man, I just took a, you know, a day at a time. I knew where it came with it. It wasn't nothing new under the sun. I, you know, like you said, I was dad in my whole life, but it just put more fuel in the fire. And so I was, you know, I'd just like to move in that matter. As soon as we saw you touch the ball with the Pittsburgh Steelers, every time you touch it, there was a spark. There was an explosion. You were running your absolute ass off. And you would become a mainstay in that backfield that they started kind of rotating. Mike McCarthy gets over there. And one of the first things he tells us is, "Jail and War is a law of this guy's energy." And then Aaron Rogers comes out and says, "Jail and War is not talking about us being like one of the best teammates of all time." Now, whatever you talk about this team as a whole, with those guys saying that about you, how close are you guys? First year head coach, but I feel like there's a lot of kind of holdover from last year and years past. What is that locker room culture like? And does this feel like a very tight team that can maybe go on a run and continue to go on a run here post-buy week? 100%. We're all very close. We're continuing to get close. I don't think we could get any closer. And I think it shows on Sundays with the way we play. The culture here is great. And, you know, anybody who's a part of it and, you know, newcomers, they hop on the move and train. Like, you know, time that you should say. And, yeah, it's great over here. Hey, you're Samoan? Yes, sir. Ouse. I'd know like that. We need to start celebrating Ouse. I did not know that until the research of this particular convo, we will start acting accordingly. Ouse, AJ has a question for you, Jalen. Yeah, he mentioned Jalen, Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers. I guess what has that been like? First off, playing with Aaron. We've heard wide outs talk about how nerve-wracking it can be on game day. Not if you don't know all the signals and everything he's doing. Like, what's it like schematically playing with Aaron? And also, what's Mike McCarthy been like? I guess I'm sure you had like, you knew of him, but now that he has been there and he's coached you for a little while. What's it been like? And is he what you expected? Yeah, they're both gurus in their own way. You know, you learn something new, playing with those, you know, playing on the Mike McCarthy and playing with A-Rod. I was commandically, they're always 10 steps ahead and, you know, they may tell you to do something you'll understand in time, but you'll understand, you know, when it happens. Yeah, Mike McCarthy's the way he speaks. Can you understand what he's saying? Yeah. I don't know if that's a true question, but yeah, yeah, understand. No, I heard he gets a little bit mumbly out there wherever he goes. He's got to happen to coach Mike McCarthy. What is the biggest difference from what you thought about him versus what you've seen from him? Because he was on our show last year and we're from Pittsburgh. A lot of us are from Pittsburgh. We thought we would know who he was. And his dude was quoting like Galileo to us on random Thursdays. It made no sense to us. He's seemingly very, is he a connected guy? Is he trying to connect with everybody? Like, what is kind of your biggest surprise about big Mike first? Maybe what you thought of him before coming in there? Yeah, I mean, you know, what I would use to my first four years was Tom Lin. You know, it's one of the best coaches I've ever played under. Mike McCarthy, I don't have much thoughts on him. You know, I didn't know too much about him. But what he did surprise me with like sometimes in meetings, he'll be talking. Then he'll get fired up like randomly, like, I'm like, okay, you can feel this guy's energy. Like he's serious and he's like, he's willing to do whatever it takes to win. And you can ask more from a guy. You know, he's got that Irish white skin. So that face might look like it's about to blow up at some times. Just no way back behind there is a man that absolutely cares. Tone Diggs, Die Hard Steelers fan has a question for you, Jaylin. Yeah, Jaylin. Thanks for everything you do for the team. I know the city really appreciates the way you play the way you run the football. But I want to talk about like a huge thing this year. Obviously, you've always been good at catching the ball out of the backfield. But it feels like this year more than ever. I think you're only 70 yards away from your career high and receiving yards in a season. As things are breaking down and Aaron just has no problem dumping it off to you and making a play. Did you know that was going to be like that coming into season? Or is it just something that happens as the game goes on and Aaron just sees it and checks it down? No, I guess there was a little, you know, it happened a couple of times last year. But I guess this year's happened more. You know, he thought that I can usually tell if I'm going to get the check down right before the play even happens. And, you know, I'm always ready when the balls in my hands. Like to take a picture of the offense in my back or the defense in my back against them. So I know where to go. It all goes down to the way I'm catching the ball too. Like I like to be deceptive by how I move. I like to compare it to like you know when you're trying to swat a fly and you swine and you miss it. And just like that's what I like to compare it to. I try to be that like fly that they don't know his next move. I'm telling the fly war, un-swatable, un-stoppable, explosive. You have been like that though, dude, since you got to Pittsburgh. I know you know that and you've had to continue to grind and continue to grind. sitting in the grind. But I think all of Pittsburgh has appreciated everything you've done. And then for your size, I think the Pittsburgh Steelers website or somebody went back and revisited your draft analysis, coming out, what they were going to think about you. And it was like pass blocking, easy reliability. And I think they just said that because you were small. And then you listen to the Zach Frazier, the Offense Aligner, like Jalen Warren will pancake, guys. Like you love the physicality, which obviously Aaron appreciates. You are, I'm happy you're getting your flowers now, bro. You do it all the right way. Now, I just mentioned Zach Frazier. It feels like the Offense of Lines doing very well for you guys this year, as well. Connor has a question for you. - Yeah, Jalen, start off a little slow, but then the changes to the old line just kind of completely revamped the offense. You started really running wild and everything started to open up. What has it been like with this group up front? And is there some sort of gift, like meatball subs, Rudy subs, if you will, to the outline after you go and rush for a hundred and that is taking place every single week. So kind of have to feed the fatsoes for all their great work. - Fatsoes, yeah. Yeah, that was a came, yeah. They definitely, you know, every day working. And like we just out here playing football, we enjoy it, you know, like I said, this is fun to us. Yeah, we enjoy being with each other. We don't look at this as work. You know, we look at it as another opportunity to get closer and we always see an eye for Sunday, whatever game we, whatever day we play. And so, yeah, that's what it is with us. - Whenever you hang around, Darnal Washington, how's that, is that just fun? Like, so, is that the biggest fucking. - Nah, look down. - Yeah, you're doing it here. - Nah, I like that. I like that. - Jump up on things, you guys have massive. You have you, I mean, Friar Mooth has maybe the largest. I mean, we'll have to dive back into that. That was obnoxious how large his legs were. I did not know that Friar Mooth's legs were that big. Darnal gigantic. Your offensive line, huge. It feels like it works to your benefit. But it's not just you, there's also another back that Pittsburgh has fallen in love with quickly. Ty has a question for you, Jaylin. - Yeah, Jaylin, what's your relationship like with Rico Doudel and the running back room as a whole? 'Cause obviously there's been quite a few changes in there guys coming in, coming out. But because you've been so good, I think a lot of people at the start of the year expected you guys to maybe like really evenly split carries because he rushed for like 1200 yards last year. And we saw him come in last week and make an impact when you weren't in the game. But what is your relationship like with him? And do you guys, do you feel like you guys make each other better? - Yeah, for sure. And that's the great thing is we don't have no secret agenda with each other. Like we tell each other what it is. And whether there's things we can help each other with, we no one's afraid to say anything. And I think nobody takes it personally. And so me and him, yeah, we close. We got close like, obviously the more time we spend it with each other. I'm actually supposed to go to the crib. Right after this, you know, kick it, you know, treatment stuff, but not. - No cards, you guys don't play cards? - No, I mean, I'm not, that's not the plan, but just treatment stuff. She was so, oh whoa. - I heard you guys, whoa, who's the best bowler in there? - You talking to him. (laughing) - You got your own ball and bag and everything. You guys bringing your own wheelie bags? - No, I don't need a ball. - Okay. - And just use those zone 26 balls or whatever that place is. (laughing) - Do you use two balls? Do we have to have your first? - Okay, 12. - For both, for both rosers, there are two different balls for the cleanup, for the spares that just strikes with the ball. - Well, I'll depend on how much I hit the first, but if I just got one pin, I'll go with six. And I'll back up like six feet. I can throw it down. I'll still, I'll spin it, hit it still. I got some videos now. (laughing) - Sounds like you're an absolute weapon at the alley there. Are you checking the watchers? Is this straight down the middle? - Nah, checking the watch. - Err. - Boy, against Puka. Puka says he's a good baller. He live streamed an event that we saw in the Super Bowl while ago. - No, I didn't know he was a baller. - Yeah, they're saying Puka, best ooze bowler in the NFL. - Boy, we're saying that line. (laughing) - I'm having to learn to your ooze, though. I think a lot of Pittsburgh is going to be pumped about that as well. - A lot of people don't know that about me. Maybe just thinking I'm in. - Well, hey, ooze in Pittsburgh, like Chris Fu, Matamau, Fala. You are absolutely loved, brother. Keep going, we appreciate your time. - Well done, thanks for having me. - Nice job, man, Shayla Warren. - Yeah, Shayla. - You're looking at him, he said. - I wonder what his average was awesome. - 285. - I have never met an NFL guy who bowls with other NFL guys who doesn't think he's the best baller of the group. And there is a score every time that decides on who's the best. And it's always just kind of a muddy conversation. It's always like, well, first game, blah, blah, blah, second game, blah, blah, blah. In the end, though, when it matter, all the pins I won. I do like how everybody's damn near where professional athletes aren't bowling, except for the fucker that knows it. There's somebody that comes in, it's, I've seen it happen. New guy come to team, I'm at bowling alley. A lot of guys bowling. It is just a normal pastime. I grew up holiday lanes down the streets. I kind of understand the bowling life and what we do with these bowling alley. So I'm just hanging out. I can bowl, you know, I can get you a 150 if we need to. You know, which is a respectable number. - Yeah. - I think you're a respectable number. But then you watch a guy come in there and he straps it up. - Yeah, and he puts the. - They bring like a carry on bag like your traveling but it has three different bowling balls in it. - Yeah. - They got their fucking towel rug, rug thing, rag thing. And it goes right and makes it up and then he put it in there. And then they're actually using the air thing. Anytime you see somebody using the air thing, it's like, oh, this person's been taught how to do this. It's gonna be a little bit of a different game here. And normally they get them. But if one of the guys who is using one of the bowling alley's balls and doesn't have the whole song and dance, and doesn't have ball, and beats said person, one of the greatest experiences you can have. Sounds like Jalen Warren's doing that, a lot of folks. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, I am so incredibly lucky and thankful. Feels like he's been here forever. Been the head coach for the last few years. Absolute stallion, absolute stud. Former linebacker at Azusa. - Come on, you got it? - Cool. - Can you do it, man? - Azusa. - Azusa Pacific, ladies and gentlemen. Coach Smith, your Daniels, say, "Echo." - Thank you for coming. - Cheers. - We got you right here. - That'll be it, yep. - Yeah, absolutely. Coach, the boys are back in the Thunderdome. So, yeah, let me know if you can hear them. Can you hear anything? - Hello, Coach. - Can you hear me? - Yes, I can. - Coach, how are you doing, Coach? Good to see you here. Let's get this over with. - Here we go. - You guys got me? - Yeah. - Let's go. - There are the boys back there. - What's up, fellas? - How you doing, Coach? - Hey, first of all, thank you for the hospitality. This is incredible. - This is awesome. - The foothills club, the view outrageous. - Yeah, be the best viewing coach, football. - It actually is, okay. So, we've been to a couple of these postcard-looking places. I stayed at Chuck Paganna's house last night. We had a beautiful view. - Oh, I'm sure that's dialed in. - Yeah. (laughing) - You called it a lot of paint check. - Yeah, a lot of paint check. (laughing) - It was beautiful. And he was telling me about Boise. And I was learning about this place. 29 years straight of winning football. - Yeah. - Just as the head coach, somebody's been around. Why do you think that is the case? We asked Ian Johnson that yesterday. Why do you think this place is just a hub to successful ball? - Yeah, well, first off for me, Pat, always, man. I think Jesus for the opportunity to be here. 'Cause I'm not that smart. I'm not that cool. The only reason I'm the head coach is 'cause Jesus put me here. Man, I'm so blessed to be here and be a part of this community. And to your point, we stand on the shoulders of decades of success here, right? Kalamore was back a few years ago. He went 50 and three here. And I'm like, let that sink in for a second, guys. 50 and three. And so this amazing facility, everything that's going on here is built, we stand the shoulders of guys that love each other. They went to work where this is a grass field, right? Where this was just a blue turf. When everybody thought we were crazy, when we had blue turf and they just kept getting better, blue collar mentality and it's an awesome community. - Yeah, it certainly is. AJ has a question for you as I tighten up your thing here. - Coach, with all of this stuff going on in the college football playoffs and the polls and everything happening in these last couple of weeks, I guess, how do you keep your team focused? Is that something you guys sit there and worry about? And if you hear guys in the locker room talking about, oh, where we're ranked and everything, is that something that you have to address with the squad? - Yeah, it's something really good question. And it's something that we talk about a lot during the off season, especially, right, 'cause that's what it is at Boise State, right? Whenever we play somebody, we're going to get their best. Every press conference from who we play, we're playing the Broncos this week. So, and every game is the biggest game. When we played Oregon, it was the biggest game. Then Memphis, this is the biggest game of the season. And so, it's getting our guys used to, we talk a lot about process over outcome, where can you truly be your best Sunday, Monday, Tuesday? And then when it gets to the game time, you got to cut it loose. You don't in season, I don't talk about rankings. The first time we got ranked, I said, you know what matters? When you get ranked at the end of the season. Nothing else matters right now that our work and us getting better. - Yeah, and I think that's the right way about a coach. We'll tell you, it looks like you're in a driver's seat for a college football playoff spot. Don't tell your team that. We want you to think about that as you think one game, one day at a time, but it's a huge opportunity tomorrow. Malik Murphy is going to be playing for Oregon State. What are you expecting from them? And are you a nameless, faceless opponent? going to be who we're going to be or do you guys adjust for who you're playing? Yeah, everything's starts with. I'm a firm believer is Boise State versus Boise State every week. And that's where everything starts for us, but we also respect every single of the opponents we play, right? And especially with what Jamarka Shepherd's been able to do at Oregon State, man, I think the world to him. And they've got fire power across the board, offensively, defensively, special teams. They got one of the best receivers in the country and Jesse LaGrie. And if their quarterback doesn't play, I mean, Lee Murphy started a lot of football games. And he's won a lot of football games. And so we know they're gonna have a great plan. They're an explosive offense because their offensive line works well together. They got great schematics and they got really good players. And so we got our hands, we got our hands full. And our job is to make sure it's all 11 all the time. And we play our best football. You're defense gonna have take on Malik Murphy. You're offense though, especially the most important position has some interesting stuff going on. I don't think you're gonna tell us exactly what the case is, but tone has a question about the quarterback position. Yeah coach. Maddox Matzen who's I believe played in or started over 40 games. So a ton of college football experience. He didn't go last week against Colorado State. You guys still look great on offense scoring a ton of points. What does it mean if he is healthy and ready to go in? And if he isn't ready to go, you can break that news too if you want on here or not. If he isn't ready to go, how do you feel about the offense in general anyways? Yeah, I mean, guys, great question. It's always next man up mentality. I mean, people get hurt and it's next bit of the great teams find ways to win. And it's hard to win in college football. You see that week in a week out how much the top 25 changes and moves. But last week's a good example. I mean, Maddox couldn't play, got injured the week prior. Max Cupforth, our backup quarterback stepped up, did a great job. We had one of our better players and sire gains out for a few weeks. Next man up mentality. So Maddox was able to practice this week. Today he was able to practice and go through it. So I'm gonna sit down with our trainers today and make sure we're on the same page, but feel like he's in a really good spot to start tomorrow. Can't say that officially yet, but feel he's in a good spot. For some reason, something happens. We trusted Max Cupforth and it's next bad up. Okay, you talked about sire gains and running back his health. Obviously a topic of discussion. Dylan Riley stepped up for him. And then whenever you talked about Max Cupforth, he came in against Texas State. You guys are down 11, I think. Yeah, throws three tuds last week. You guys have, I think he goes 18 to 19 for 300 every next man up mentality culture seemingly set. Also, Tony, I don't know if you know this this six foot two two 115 pound Max Cupforth. He's from like 30 minutes outside of your grew up coming to boys who stayed. I think last year he was two in one. When Maddox got hurt this year, he stepped up in a big way. I think that goes to your culture. Is that a good depiction of everything you're trying to build right there? Absolutely, Pat. I mean, we talk about our culture, but we call our culture built different, right? And that's not just to have a cool PowerPoint. And we define as building champions on and off the field. And why is it different? Because transformation is not really going on a lot in college football in my opinion. And that doesn't mean we've got it all figured out. I just think college football is more transactions. Players leave all the time, coaches leave all the time. We want to be a little bit different. I think Max is a really good example. He's he's paid his dues. He walked on it, boys. He stayed got better, got on scholarship, found a way to be the backup, found a way to start a game, found a way to win a game. And you just stay in that fight. That's life. And and I'm so proud of that. I guess the boys love them. They love Maddox, though. I guess Maddox is be loved in that locker room. Interesting stuff. Whenever you have injuries go down, we know you'll handle it. Well, former player you've been in the locker room, but there's a lot going on in college football. You just kind of alluded to it a little bit. Yeah, coach, because the fact that you were a linebacker and played college ball, obviously you can relate to the players, especially, you know, you're 38 years old. You're a young stud. It's not as if you were playing 30 years ago. But because it was more recent, how do you kind of view college football now in comparison to when you played it? And how different did you have to kind of kind of change your culture? Maybe even change your kind of mindset towards players because of the status of, you know, N I L and the difference in just the culture in general when it comes to college football. Yeah, really, really good question. I mean, playing out a zoo specific was a little bit different than playing to visual football. I joke with every single player is like, yeah, I wasn't recruited to play here, guys. And they got that right. There's no way I would have there's no way I would have made it here. I didn't get screwed. They made the right assessment assessment of me. But I think it's just, you know, college, even, this is your 10 for me at Boise State. And college football's change in those days. And you know what? It's probably going to change a lot more in the years to come. And it still is the greatest sport on planet Earth and a story that that's not in question. But it is a, it's in an interesting place right now. And I think that's where for us. And I think playing the position, playing college football, understanding a little bit about what these kids go through, not everything. So much for me is building them as people, knowing the things they're going through, knowing the struggles that they're going through as a young man, as an 18, 19, 21, 22 year old, and really building them for life. Because I'm a firm believer you build the person. The player will always become way better when the person's better. You can't live two different lives. And so even in the N I L space, revenue, share space, all these things, I think there's a lot of excuses going on in college football. Well, well, they win because they have more money or they have this. Amen. It was 11 on the field until they make it to where one team has 12 and one of 11. Hey, it's 11 on 11, man. And at the end of the day, we have more than enough. And that's a mentality for our players because you can't do that in life either. Well, this guy is born from here. His parents are, amen. You got your life. God's called you to this place for such a time as this. Do not waste it and keeping that mentality for our guys is huge. I love that. Especially here, because you could be the one complaining because your team is going to inevitably have to compete against some of these squads who might have a lot more at their disposal than others, which leads to tie his question. Tie is an Iowa Hawkeye. Okay. Okay. So you need to know that with where this question is coming from, with how the college football playoff is set up. Please know that this is where the door questions. Okay. Okay. Got to go ahead. Yeah. My my shins have been slam pretty good for I coach. I basically said I didn't want you guys to get in because I need multiple teams in front of Iowa to not get in so they get in. That being said, you guys are a very similar to program to Iowa, but that's neither here nor there. I want you to listen. I know you got a couple games left. You guys are on the fast track to get in, but I want to throw a hypothetical at you. In the first rankings that came out, you know, there's a chance that you guys would have to go to South Bend and play Notre Dame in the playoff. And obviously I know how important your faith is to you and and it leads a lot of stuff that you do. Have you maybe taken a second to consider like, man, what an unlucky draw, you know, that I have to my dad used to always say listen, I don't know if God cares about who wins on Saturdays, but if Notre Dame's involved, I can tell you who he's going to be rooting for. Have you considered that at all up to this point? I don't know where to go with that question, but I truly appreciate the question. No, I mean at the end of the day, better like in, and my faith is important. But I want to make sure everybody knows like when I talk about my faith, it's not because I got this all figured out. The only reason I'm here is because I've made more mistakes than anybody I'm talking to right now and by the grace of God is while I'm here. And I want to be able to make sure that with our players, no matter what rankings come out, no matter who we play, if it's Notre Dame, if it's Alabama, if it's if it's the Iowa Hawkeyes, our defense coordinator played Iowa, Eric Shenandre, so we always give a little bit of a little bit of smack, you know what I mean, but it's whoever it is, we got to put the ball down and play in same thing like Papperup. There's not going to be any excuses. It's we got to find a way to play us. No different this weekend. No different the weekend after this. We got to find a way to our best football because we can lose every game we play or we can find a way to win every game we play to. I just want to let you know classic media. Tide just found out that there's an Iowa Hawkeyes. I'm back. I'm back. I'm boy. I'll send you a jacket. What's the rest of the day look like for you here? I got a couple of different media things. Then we bring our guys back and we have chapel and then we have walk through meetings and then we have a team dinner together and then we send them all to our hotel. Are you first? Is college first 15? Obviously some people are, but do you already know exactly how you're starting to sing offensively defensively or is that all work in progress for you guys? A little bit of work in progress. We will have like we call ready lists and we'll have a little couple of our openers already dialed in. But there's obviously the flow of the game and making sure that you can adapt that we talk a lot the great ones just. Feels like you're a great one brother. Can't wait to watch you continue to do your thing. 38 years old you look unbelievable. Well I'm I'm I'm taking a peak right now. I'm like man you still got it. I had a bigger flannel on ahead take it off. I didn't know it was just hot. It's beautiful up here. It is the welcome to the promised land. Welcome to the promised land. We got everybody involved. We are so glad you're here Pat. Everybody. I mean we have been waiting for this. I promise you this could be the best time you guys have had all season. Thank you for coming to Boise State. Thank you for having us. You're the best ladies and gentlemen. What's the line for that game tomorrow night time? Well 14 and a half. 14 and a half. It's on what USA Network. That's right. Yeah. You can watch tomorrow night. What did you say tomorrow night? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Six o'clock Eastern. It's okay. Nine hour time. I got dusk. No six Eastern. My bad. Yeah. The Oregon State. Oregon State back up. Go on. I'm Lake Murphy who started Texas. Duke and now has been Oregon State the last two years. Atkinson is the leading passer in the country. The quarterback. That is hurt. So that changed the line a little bit, but still be a good one down there. But what's nice Pat coach Danison was pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah. He's also really jacked and really pure skin. You know, if you see him and I think he's living right. He said he's made more mistakes than all of us. Not doubt it. I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to believe that, isn't it? Yeah. I didn't want it just like immediately cut him down at his knees after saying that because as he was kind of rolling, but I really. enjoyed the way he's operated. I like that he said like people a lot of excuses being made by a lot of people right now like they have that money they have a money. What's 11 guys on a field isn't it? It's like I respect that because he could be a person who says look at how good our team is. They're creating NFLers, Shakira I believe is boys you state I ask them gently obviously boys you state they have a couple other guys in the lead currently they're making NFL guys but nowhere near as many as like the other teams that they're going to be compared against at the end whenever you talk about college football playoff and he could come out and say if we had enough money if we had the same amount of money as mostly SEC schools or big 10 schools or the other schools that were ranked against you could see him saying that other coaches have but in said he says no excuses man we're putting 11 on the field we got to play what we got to play and I didn't know there was a Hawkeye on the on the coaching staff tie I didn't know you were taking it on the shins all week I imagine that whenever you started popping off a little bit about the group of six they were going to kind of rally against you because I had a I had an experience a couple weeks ago where my super dog was a team that I knew nothing about and I said that and they came after me pretty good and I appreciate their passion I expected it for you as well tie but you were staying on business for Iowa so I think they have to respect that as well yeah I had to do it they don't respect it whatsoever but I did it last year so you know I was I was ready for it but then you start kind of hearing some of the stuff about boys it's like wow this program play style you know they very similar to Iowa actually but again I didn't know that their decordinator was a former Hawkeye that's certainly changes things so yeah so we'll see we'll see a boys guy we want your apology to be as loud as your accusation not gonna not gonna apologize certainly not gonna but I thought maybe that's what you were doing here saying sorry to all these people are mad at you for what you said about a group of six automatic bid for the playoffs no no absolutely not I I stand by what I said that's why we love you but I don't know a poison should have taken the vitriol you know because hey it's a damn good football team yeah anybody in that position would have taken it is what ties says just so happens to be the school that you're traveling out two in three days exactly you know ties says that you know bad timing what are you gonna do sometimes huh this place is gorgeous 14-and-a-half point favorites as Oregon state comes the town Malik Murphy Good quarterback excited to experience this place obviously you've seen it have learned about it have loved it and what they do for ball now getting a chance to live it ladies or gentlemen it's Friday so that means we got to do one thing yes uh-huh yes A.J. is already undefeated it's time delivered by DoorDash to make our Hicks for the weekend join us the man not another guy it's the honor guy a point you stand under where two pal not go yep i got the long long spandex underneath buddy we're on the board this place is awesome listen uh it is awesome oh look at this you're awesome hey you know what as we go from uh to gumpy's camera here look at this i mean how could you not think wow i cannot wait it looks bigger than 35000 people it does look beautiful how's it look a person does it look bigger than 35 in person it's like it's just it's low you know that's the only thing is like the it's a little bit of a lower bowl you know so that's how you can tell it's not as big because some of those places especially diner in the SEC that bowl will go all the way up to you know yeah it's like yeah there and and that's how because they just add on these add on add on add on add on here they've done some magic updating the uh the sweets so that they can uh take advantage hopefully of the wonderful alum and donors that they have while they continue to build did you hear daniel syndrome just say no excuses it's 11 guys on a field let's go play football i love the way he operates his energy is incredible we had dinner road in the last night it was awesome where did i see that learned a ton uh little alcalcio oh thank you what was it steak ass oh what's your how'd you or did they have they had this occasion cream sauce like for it for an appetizer and i was like can I just get a steak with that on it and it was what what was the appetizer just like cream sauce a little secret can you imagine that frame like cheesecake no i was like wow he likes cheesecake former line back to though it is just the Pacific uh what you say age i think age it was talking about the appetizers maybe a little bit he said they have some creamy sauce that for an appetizer is it just a bowl of sauce that you are no it's over fun of flame medallions and uh uh tenderloins and then they do like they call a wicked shrimp oh well thank you sure thank you for doing kid Connor would love the wicked and this place is called el gacho el gacho i like that yeah who are you out there with your coach danielson was uh Matt give it in there uh he was big damel wow he was there he's Davis Samantha Reese Davis yeah god what's it comfy were you invited this dinner i didn't get the call yeah me neither jeez or leave what time do you guys land all right we're delaying it was a bad night last night of travel but we did get in here a bit late and then we stayed at the bagano estate oh i'll tell you what chuck put on a performance this morning in his kitchen i will tell you that mace tina beautiful home all right let's get to our pick shall we as we wrap up this glorious feel good friday did you have commanders last night yes okay so today jay so we'll give you both that we'll give you both that congratulations you guys i hit a plus 36 hundred bit last night did you yeah yeah 18 pounds where's the crown it's fucking big it's so big you can't see it right now yeah that's the biggest one i've won in some time that's the biggest i've hit on draft kings hell yeah yeah plus 3600 it was cam's got a boot touchdown likely touchdown and it Williams oh yeah chuck bagano yesterday couldn't get the game right he said giants minus three but he he rattled off like four other guys that we're gonna do something how it's gonna go and i just listened to him i think a lot of people did he we're on that playing last night celebrate chuckles rolling in the aisle two and a half celebrate he had a couple diet buffaloes as that oh yeah yeah he had like four or five just a couple yeah he was yeah he was ma yeah he we were we were flying pretty high as that thing hit congrats to the commanders and a steve and to a j let's go to goot and talk unique germany doing them patriots uh detroit lines lines favored by two and a half uh i don't know if you saw it can we pull up the clip of miche variable uh introducing himself and the new England patriots to the local german media i i don't know if you have heard uh this sound bite yet of miche variable trying to learn a little bit of german and how it i'm sorry dan cambo not miche variable uh dan cambo learning german and how he started his conversation have you seen this i have not here it is say that again okay well okay so i don't know if he taught me this i've got all right i've been known to use profanity so bear with me here and uh so i wanted to you know i always give these pointers to the team on just little subtleties about you know one of them is spreading our wings now it's time to spread our wings and fly all right and uh but i like to use a little profanity so i'm looking up a way to say uh somewhat maybe the f word in front of wing spread your and and so i see shash is as close as i can get to it and so it sounds like ship wings um so it didn't go over like i thought it would anyway so he's talking what not to say but anyway but anyway shash so that lady asked him a question in english and he said he can't understand it say the question is about German teacher just from beginning to end there just a master class for that give it a light by this two and a half over there and uh if mcdc and variable want to do a little wrestling match afterwards i think we would all appreciate that over under 51 and a half i'm taking a line strictly because of dan Campbell's answer to that specific situation stand for see who do you like how do you like it i'm with you patreon's burned me last week i didn't like it oh hey j you mean the patreon's plus two and a half Connor do you like or hate that we're both on the lions uh don't hate it i believe uh eighty something percent of the money is on the lions this sunday so oh i will go with the patreon saying sorry about it foxy i was all eighty percent on you guys did you expect that foxo no i didn't expect that and that's a okay with me i got one for you guys saint brown has not scored a touchdown in five games he's in germany's from germany he will score in this game yeah we will take that as well as an extra bet uh a j do you want to make that an official pick yeah let's do it okay so we're all on a mon raw saint brown touchdown anytime touchdown score and you are on the lines being age here on the page it's got it okay let's go jagwires titans jags favored by ten and a half i think it's gonna be hard for any of us to say titans over jags especially with how we feel i'm going jags minus ten and a half stand for steve jags are the best team in the NFL in my opinion give me the titans plus ten and a half there's a lot of points for a division game so stay up steve a j who do you like i'm riding with stand for here give me the titans D'awaii! I don't love it. I mean, Jags are awesome. But it's ten and a half is a bunch. Jordan Davis, Jesse Bates, not playing. What's up? What's up? Jordan Davis and Jesse Bates, the third are not playing. This is like their pseudo-buy week. Yeah, the Jags were Jaguars that come out and said they're giving them a-- That's how confident the Jags are. Yes. And also, they're telling them we need you down the stretch with where we're at. Take a buy week. Let's get you on the other side. Let's get you a little bit more inundated with Campanelli's defense. Houston Texans, favored by four and a half in Cleveland. Cleveland, a different team near the lake. Who do you like? How do you like it, Steve O? I'll take Cleveland plus the points. They got the Sean back. AJ? You'll be Cleveland plus four and a half. What's the weather? I think it's clear. I looked up the other day. Let me get you again. All right. What is the percentage of money here? 67% on Houston. All right. I'll ride with you guys with the Browns. It can't say Chiefs, favored by three, going down to Atlanta. I was wearing Travis Kelsey's flannel earlier. It was too hot. It was too good. Almost like the Chiefs is with Josh Downs. I'll take the Chiefs, favored by three in Atlanta. Steve O, who do you like? I agree. AJ. Give me Chiefs. Buffalo Bill is favored by eight and a half. They got some offensive line stuff. Deon Dawkins is back. Spencer Brown was, I think he was limited in practice. Potentially going to be listed as questionable. Does that matter with what they were able to do with a couple backups last week? I don't think so. Give me the Bill is favored by eight and a half in the AFC East. Jets. Oh, Jets plus eight and a half. Steve saw that eight and a half number and said there's no way. I don't care who's on the other side. AJ, who do you like? Give me the Bill's. All right. Dolphins Colts. We know. Colts minus three and a half for me. Steve Colts. No. Dolphins. What? Three and a half. It's at the loudhouse. Tom Accord. One team tries. One team doesn't try. What team tries here? Halflies, boys. Oh, you don't think the Indianapolis Colts are trying. They're trying to establish a brand new culture in there. These guys are on the team for the rest of the year. We got a lot of football games left. They need to figure it out. Gumps, why are you saying go offense? You know in the loudhouse that's going to be a tough place for this Dolphins team before. That is the top far. And I have concern that Aaron Brewer is out or starting center. He's unbelievable. So that will be a lot with a rookie, not a rookie, but McCord's starting as well. The forest isn't on the team. Oh, okay. Get out of that whole gumpy. We should guys got a first form. So I don't think Gumpy's in a hole. Just the lighting. It is so dark. Hello. That's awesome. It looks like he's in the corner of a basement with no lights. Well, Gumpy was born in the dark. Yeah. There's nothing to wear. He's comfortable. Shout out to DoorDash. Don't fan for free. You realize DoorDash on Saturdays. You can earn points, win points, to potentially win life-changing items. I think enough money for a house. I think they got a large charger out there. They got groceries for a year. All you got to do is utilize DoorDash on Saturdays. Don't fan for free. We appreciate DoorDash changing our lives. Hopefully DoorDash will deliver me some good picks. (laughs) The rest of the way. That's Stanford Steve. We're live here in Boise. The boys are back in the Thunderdom. Bussin with Josh Pate will be next live on a campus. As college football and the NFL are about to deliver. We'll see you on Monday. Goodbye. Okay. That was very professional. Yeah. Nowhere near through that slated games on TV though. That's okay. All right. They got the main ones. Kinda. Not really. I don't think they did at all. No. All of the good ones are coming up. We're all coming up here. That's bad TV for us. We'll work on that to get better. Yeah. Okay. So you're on the Finns+3 and a half. AJ, you like the Colts? Yeah. Loudhouse is going to be rocking. (clapping) Covered last week. Yeah, they did. Depends on where you took it, I guess. That was a big topic of conversation. 'Cause what the favorites were. Well, do we know what the halftime show is? That could play a role. Erskins is back. Let's go. What? They got set the flow performing? No, that's just, I'm hoping that that's the case. At least he can't afford it. There's no way. Somebody called Conti. See what this halftime show is. Last week it was Produced Band. They were pretty good. They rolled that big ass fucking drama. Yeah. They were. They were better than what's usually happening out there. We get to lost to the Cowboys. We turn around against the Dolphins. Panthers, Saints, that NFC South. Everybody's talking about how good they are, Steve. Who do you like in this one? Yeah, I think it's a big spot. Saints have been pretty good at home, Carolina. What are we going to get from them on the road? I'll take Saints. Okay, Saints, favorite by two and a half. AJ, do you like the Panthers or Kelly Moe? Boise State legend in the Saints at home. Yeah, I mean, Kelly Moe, what? 50 and three record as a starting QB out there in Boise as coach told us. So that's pretty impressive. But I will take the Carolina Panthers. I will take the Panthers getting points down there as well. I don't know why I want to do that. Connor, why do I want to continue to do that? I think strictly just because why not? The other thing is we have no freaking ideal. Take the points. Take the points. You can never go wrong taking the points. But at the same time, it's one of those games where if the other team gets blown out, you're going to be pretty bumped. We also saw Morgan putting in, what, a 12-milligrammer? Two of them, I think, with our own eyes. Then we see that. Is that what I saw? Uh-huh. So I'm always going to believe in that guy. Yeah. Kelly and Moe, 150 and three. How about they are saying, oh, guys, that's not going to happen. Okay. That's unbelievable. He was so good here. He's awesome. So good here. Has a chance down there in New Orleans to do some special stuff every time, not this weekend. I got the Panthers. AJ, who do you have? I got the Panthers, too. Okay, let's go to the Vikings Packers. AJ, who do you have in this one? I like the Panthers. Okay, favored by three at home. I want to see Kurt Cousins with the Minnesota Vikings back there. But yeah, I like the Packers, especially at home. The all-time leading tackle for the Green Bay Packers is picking the Packers, favored by three at home against the Minnesota Vikings. Kurt Cousins coming in immediately and have to take it on Green Bay, in Green Bay, is a very, very tall assignment. Stanford Steve, do you like KOC getting back into the swing of things offensively, as their defense could potentially win them a championship? In the second quarter last Monday, I looked at you and I said they got to go to the bullpen here. And good to see they did. I can't imagine what that meeting was like with the GM and KOC after that game. Because it's like, hey, hey, get me something. Get me somebody. And they got them. But I like what the floor is doing with this offensive line at Green Bay is unbelievable. Love played like the best player in the league last week, so they continue. Ty, can I continue Ty? Well, love, I don't think I remember if this is something that love just does. He just can use the dominate. Toyotathon. We're not quite there yet, but like he has spurts of this during his career where he'll just, he'll play fucking lights out for multiple weeks at a time. And outside of, you know, Jamar Chase and T Higgins, no wide receiver combo is playing better than Matthew Golden and Christian Watson. And then their defense. I still don't think it really gets the credit. It deserves. The Packers are arguably one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now. Love their corners. Man. Yep. See say. I just want to pick the Vikings because they traded for a starting quarterback at the trade deadline. And how good the story is. Like, I love that. Can't do it. Can't do it. Just can't do it. I'll take the backers. All right. That's it. Are you calling the Norris Gods? Was Marcus Freeman Blinken in Morris Code on TV the other day for Veterans Day? Oh, he probably knows. Does anyone know Morris Code anymore? Yeah. We learned it. Oh, sorry. Come on, Steve. All right. Wait, did you get it? Did you get it? You used to know? No. I used to teach at the school, maybe. They should plum Plum burrow plumb burrow, we learn more. We should get back to it There's people everywhere who's trying to influence us. Alternate signals class. We did a smoke signals class as well, sign language. We learned it all. - Yeah, just in case you get, you know, held hostage somewhere. Somebody takes you, kidnaps you. Smoke signals too. I don't know if he said that, but-- - Nobody dies at Steve's. - You think someone's trying to kidnap, stay in for Steve, you know how difficult they are? - They're a fucking thing they do. - If they want to-- - He'd win them over. - He'd win them over, right? Where are we going, boys? (all laughing) - I know the owner of this particular shack. that you guys got me tied up in here. Get your little YouTube TV here. - We can really change this entire thing. I'll take the Vikings plus three. Rams favored by nine and a half, showing into Arizona. Arizona Cardinals are a better football team than anybody thinks they are. They lose Jacobi percent. The Carson Beck era begins as nine and a half point dogs at home. Stanford Steve, who do you like? - They also lost Michael Wilson. That worried about the Rams running the football, but I'm gonna take the nine and a half. How about Michael was he broke his neck on a third play? Fourth play? Played. - Love him. - Dog. - Out of the year now. - Absolutely. I mean, think about this. - Very unsafe too. - He said he had a baby. - They're paying me millions of dollars. I'm gonna go out there if I can go out there. - Yeah, wildly unsafe. Crazy that he did that. But in real time, they're asking him if he's feeling anything. You know, hey, you feel anything? He had to make the conscious decision. Knowing that his shit was probably broke being like, "No, I'm good man, I'm good." There's a lot on the line. I appreciate him doing that for his teammates. I think he has a lot of respect from everybody in the NFL. And once we hear that, we go, "God, Lee, "for the Cardinals he's doing that." Could you imagine if it was another team that was potentially in it? He's out for the season. Godspeed, Michael. Happy you're still good, bro. You know, messing with the neck. That's an interesting thing. You got La Flora's got guys out there playing with broken frickin' necks. - Reese Beck, that's culture most. - There's culture right there. That's culture. - Hey, hey, who are you taking? Who are you taking? - Nine and a half is a bunch. I think the Carson Beck era begins on Sunday. I'm taking the Cardinals. - Fuck. Who'd you want? - I don't know, man. - The more I think about this guy playing with a broken frickin' neck, it's like, think about what that locker room is probably. If this guy wants to play, so nine and a half points with a new quarterback coming in there, they're gonna want to. I'll take the Cardinals plus nine and a half. I think Rams win, but I like Cardinals plus nine and a half. C. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. six and a half point favorites against Fernando Mendoza. That era begins in Las Vegas this weekend as well. He's got the Seattle Seahawks. He's got the Denver Broncos. He's got somebody else. Welcome to the league, kid. Has he learned enough from Kirk? Does he know Cubi X offense well enough? Are the Raiders about to go on a run with the number one overall pick for Fernando Mendoza quarterback or do the Seattle Seahawks come in and blow out the Las Vegas Raiders? Stanford Steve, what says you? - Yeah, I can't wait to see what this is. No one how good Mendoza was in college pre-snap against Mike McDonald. This is awesome. Rookie quarterback first start. I'm gonna say the Seahawks take care of business. Rookie quarterback. Rookie quarterback taken on Seattle Seahawks defense is crazy to even say once you said that. Hearing that for the first time. It's like that's going to be that's going to be problematic, but you're saying that's not even the biggest worry. What are they going to do on defense aside against the Seattle Seahawks offense? You're wondering. Hey, Jay, who do you like? I like the Seattle Seahawks on this one. Connor, do we have to take Fernando because of how loud we were about how good Fernando was going to be or like where do we kind of sit in that one? In any other game we do in this game and I believe you're the one that sent this to the group. The Seattle Seahawks as a defense are holding teams to like the least amount of yards and points since the 90s. So if it was legitimately any other team, I don't care if it was Raiders Bills or Raiders Niners, then I would consider it. Mike McDonald is going to have Mendoza in hell. I feel so bad if anybody knows Kubiak's offense, who is it? The guy who hired him to be his OC last year? So unfortunately with this one, you're just going to have to say I trust Mike McDonald and we are going to do this. This is the stat I was just referencing. No defense has been better at limiting opponent yards via average, of course, since 1999. Yeah, they're better than the 2002 box 2000 Ravens are pretty good, huh? How about the Legion of Boom? They're pretty good. Well, let's talk about the dark side defense and what they've been doing since they've come together. Fernando Mendoza, I love you pal. I'm your biggest supporter, but you're right. When them hazards tweaked, I put into my world. I immediately remembered and was reminded on why I'm a Seahawks fan. I became a Seahawks fan during hard knocks because of McDonald. Doesn't matter if I was boots on a ground from Monday night football for the Bears having their best game against Seattle Seahawks having their worst game. I need to eliminate that. That's not who the Seahawks are. Bulture. I think Seahawks, about six and a half. I don't like that I'm doing that for Fernando, because I would like to be on board supporting Fernando. We still are. He can still play well. Oh, yeah, lose by touchdown. Yeah, or they can lose 14 nothing and Fernando can have a really fun day. Nothing big. It's only probably didn't have a great day. Fun. I said not great. It's fun. 189. That's over under 189. Yeah. Fun. Shut up. What's his touchdown? One and a half or just half probably have got to be half. I mean, look, I love Fernando. He won the heistman and all that shit. He's going to get fucked around on Sunday. Okay. And I'm saying that. What does that mean exactly? When that choir leaks, I don't want anybody to hear it. Okay. I believe Max Mendoza is lighting the the torch. Sure. Yeah. I believe that was taken. Matt Maxman. Yeah. We like Matt Maxman. We hope he is doing that. We are all on the sea hogs because once Stanford Steve left these little words out of his mouth. Oh, dark side defense. Mike McDonald against rookie quarterback in his first start. That as soon as you say that's like, Oh, that is a good point. We love Fernando. Good luck. The rest of the way. Niners Cowboys. Niners favored by three and a half. Odds on favor to win the Super Bowl. San Francisco 49ers taken on the Dallas Cowboys. In an NFC East that is certainly still wide open after the Giants lost the commanders last night, especially for the Cowboys. San Francisco. Who do you like? How do you like it here, pal? This line makes no sense. You saw the Cowboys last week. Yeah. Give me the Cowboys. Real. Wait. What should the line be? Like a sense at least. Yeah. It's the Niners. Like you just said, Super Bowl favor. Dallas Cowboys in in Jerry World. Well, you know? Jerry Port Jr's foot's banged up. All men. George Pickens. Is he playing? I don't remember what rap said. Rap said he's practiced and practice has gone well, so hopefully. So you took the Cowboys Stanford? I did. Yeah, strictly because this ain't what it's supposed to be in his eyes. This is called a. stinky one, right? Yes. AJ, you're going to follow the sniff or are you going with the trap that the sportsbook had basically put you into? I'm going with the trap. I think the Niners won by 10. Second highest public game of the week. Oh, no. Over 79%. 81. Oh, on the Niners? On the Niners, yeah. KC had 83%. Steve, you don't like the public. Is that what you're doing? I don't. Public, you said it's making Sweden. Public, you said it's biggest week. Remember, we didn't have a boost last night because draft kings that are real cute weekend for the public. How about we need to get back? No boost. No boost this week. We still hit, though, by the way. Cam's got a boost plus one, 25 score times last night. Then just one. Isn't that same? I feel like they gave us one there. Just on the book, we didn't even boost that. That's what it was. I'll fall for the trap too. Give me the Niners. Give me the Niners. What's the number? 81. 81. I'll take Cowboys plus three and a half. Just because there may be a little secret mission that one of the people on the Thunderdum stages up to right now. Currently, Convent. It's a secret. I'd like to know the secret. It's a secret. You have a secret mission right now. Shut up. Steve, bring me back one of the hoodies. Those are sweet. Those aren't pretty sweet. Got it. Thank you. They gave us a bag. Soon as we got to the room, had a nice bag in there. Very thankful for how hospitable all these colleges are. Actually, we got Dale 31 years. He's been here. 29 of them winning seasons. Dobak? Jesus. Yeah. Prestige. Yeah, it is Dale Dobak. That's crazy. You knew that. It was great now. Okay, I will take the. I'll take the Cowboys plus three and a half. Convent, that's for your secret mission. Pittsburgh Steelers taking on the Bengals. Angles favored by three and a half incense and that he. Pittsburgh coming off a buy. So what were those stats of teams coming off buys this year? Oh, really good. I know Gumpy has the exact percentages, but it's been a teams that have had the rest advantage have been really good this year, especially when they're traveling back from Europe. Only team that's lost was the Chargers against the Ram. Look at that light. Look at the light. No, you know, the light's good. McCarthy's excellent off a buy, isn't he? Yeah. I mean, the goal he's excellent, but. Yeah, exactly. So what do we got for weather? Well, we can't trust Jim Can Torrey's website anymore. I don't know if you heard about that. I figured Talon had another place to go. 43 and clear. Let out sources. 43 and clear down in the jungle. 43 for kickoff. 41 into the second quarter. 40 and then 39 wraps that up in the jungle. Over there in Sinsi. No, no real wind. No, no real. Nothing feels like it's a perfect night for AFC North football. Yeah, Joey B in the boys favored by three and a half. Who do you like Cincinnati or Pittsburgh, Steve O? Pittsburgh off a buy. Cincinnati played over somewhere in Europe. Madrid. Madrid. Hola. Yeah, all that. Um, give me the Steelers. Steelers plus three and a half on Sunday night football. Says Stanford Steve. AJ Hawk, who do you like? I've gone back and forth with this one. Give me the Steelers here. Oh, I don't like that. I think angles win by three or Steelers win by seven. Every time AJ's gone against the bangles. I believe he's been right. I'm not going against the bangles. I'm going for the Steelers. Okay, I like that. We're trying to spin positive. Whatever. You know, we're trying to get here earlier. Don't pause it. Remember Ian Rathamore. Yeah, I had a tour doing. He's got the high head on because he'll have spuck. I'm not need some sort of public support from Charlie. I'll be back in him. I'm not leaving. He's got a tree. I'll take the Pittsburgh Steelers plus three and a half off the buy. Jalen Warren just came on a fucking program. What am I talking about? Exactly. We just found out they got who's running back from Pittsburgh. We just found that out today. Last time we had who's running back. Chris Fulmata Mahal Fala. Okay. Playing against him. Anyone. Oh, yeah, you talk. Yeah. Paul. Check the tape on that second half he had against us. I'm true freshman. Sidelight. I'm like, we're playing against guys like this. This is a little step up from old Connecticut high school football. What the fuck is his name for what what six? Fulmata Mahal what he was a problem. We love them in Pittsburgh just like they love Jalen Warren. Tony, do you like us all riding with the Steelers here on Sunday night or no? No, no, I do not. But it's fine. It's okay. It's really this is awesome. It's a battle of two styles. team that can run the ball and can stop the run versus a team that cannot run the ball and can't stop the run But it's the best passing team in the entire league. I'm very excited to see what happens on Sunday night But I hate that you're all on it. Yeah, okay, we're all on let's go to the top of the table. Come on, man Who do you like it's work Steelers or bangles? I think a lot of people are gonna like the bangles and Jalen Warren is an ooh baby, so I don't see how I could go against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, so that's Connor plus three and a half for the Pittsburgh Steelers as well How about you, Ty? Yeah, I believe it was big Mike McCarthy's birthday earlier this week, so need I say more birthday week Give me the fucking Steelers. You're gonna much cake that guy's on this week Any to yeah exactly just the food. Okay, so that's us three that all like the Steelers plus three and a half tone You love that that's a toxic table all like the Steelers plus three have let's go to the back room Foxy Do you like the Steelers or do you like the bangles pal? Love the Steelers getting the win here easily actually Thank you money on don't even need to points Bruce how about you tough one last night for your giant sorry about that pal But let's talk about Sunday night football. You like the Steelers or the bangles? I mean big Mike off of buys no doubts He took the bangles with hammer down yesterday. I know he's lying They got me. I laid it on way in three with the bangles Wait for it to do it wait for it to do his favorite bed of the week. It's also the dolphins. You fucking Trader All visions he had a tough one last night. Hey Bruce. We're sorry buddy. We're sorry man Yeah, like you really hit yeah, yeah, it's despicable loss. I mean to to have 400 400 yards two interceptions in the fourth quarter and still lose just a neptitude on third and fourth that He's missed I don't like that's a good Friday Who's can he say something positive for everybody here if we're on a feel good Friday? Uh, JJ You know that throw to likely was cool. It was nice throw Still first still favorite we've got the Jaguar's time Yeah, we gotta see Hawks coming off. Oh Jesus Not just the Cowboys man look out for the commanders. Yeah, they look like a good football team last night two five and one going into the night last night Now are they gonna win the NFC East and host a playoff game. There's a chance. There's a chance They're hosting a Monday night football that two weeks cannot wait for it. Ah should be a blast. All right, AJ Thank you for traveling out there. It's under the umbrella any final thoughts for the world here Man, I'm just what are staying for seed. What's your plans for tonight? We know you know everybody everywhere like what are you doing tonight? This is the tricky one mountain time Or if you've just did what time's curfew what times your curfew mountain. I'm still trying to figure it out because 11 o'clock I mean nine and it's nine probably ten. No nine. Yeah, nine nine thirty so what time you go to dinner? Dinner's at five. Yeah dinners early dinners at five. We we got team we got team dinner this year. Yeah, this year It's awesome. It's been one of the best thing. That's awesome. That's great. It is it's been spectacular Yeah, we don't have to worry Matt Garrett is finding a private place for us to go eat fantastic food There's good vibes. It's always it's been a lot of fun this year. That has been a good part But we've been in so many different time zones. It's the timing of the dinner has not been easy to figure out We go to Indiana we keep the central time zone time So now we're eating dinner like four o'clock then out here dinners at like five o'clock But that's actually seven o'clock which might be too late for like coach Sabin who likes to go to bed a little bit So we've been around we've been living this year We've been we've been really around lucky to be doing it thankful to do it But these Friday times have it got an interesting still got college football live. We got our meeting. We got sports center hits Let's go 100 200 beer to drink Seven beer Right ice cold beer why local here for college game day. So that's I'll probably be at the sports center 515 bring it. I'll be watching so I have a whole rain wake up cold in my morning Me and Foxy had a question Steve Yes, you did your sports center hit Saturday morning looking unbelievable in a nice collar button up black shirt Best maybe I've ever seen you look definitely and then you completely did a wardrobe change you threw on that The Notre Dame fucking Whole I mean looks great. It looks great. Well, is there any thought to know, you know, maybe carry that look over the game day anytime? What the fuck ah? No, I like the sports teams. We got some new boys. You stay here that we're gonna wear a Saturday Yeah, I think you let you're not picking them I picked Ohio State against Iowa You're away in Iowa stuff. Yeah, obviously. I thought you always wear like a third party whenever you're about to potentially No, no, that's not a good telling you. I thought I had a tell on you. No, no You better look into that you better look at you better do something self-eval to see if that is the case Because whenever you're wearing the school stuff. I know I'm immediately what's happening seemingly no I picked Houston at Utah. Were you wearing Utah stuff? Notre Dame at BYU at BYU. Yeah, I'm over Utah stuff. I wore BYU stuff. So you do a lot of stuff Into their trap trying to wear their trap and shit on their trip. That's what saying for Steve will do I appreciate about the build up the days before the hospitality fuck Steve. Is your wife call you Stanford Steve? Yeah What are your kids doing? Jeff Darlington asked for my address the other day and asked me and I sent my name with my address like your name's not Stanford Steve Shout Jeff Darlington. We appreciate him getting to the bottom of it. I'm some terrible new Steve on this feel good Friday And I know this is gonna Potentially break you too. Oh, I hope you're self-confirmed Ponsatino's the head coach of Manchester United quit on the United States. Oh, congrats. Thank you Pons. Oh, now ties leaving. Where's God? Thank you Hey, get the dump camera. Love you. Love you. Pons. Thank you for your time. Pons Standing over a guy who couldn't make it to the freaking quarters. Yeah, right guys coach We ever had an over a guy who lived the American dream and then realized it's time to get out This is a fucking sinking ship. I'm gonna go to somewhere where I can actually maybe win enjoy it And I said it from the beginning. He was the Marionette. He was the puppeteer. He did the Sorry giving giving emotional here. I mean just playing all those people and he Did he gave us some he gave us a few great months I'm happy for the go you were happy for yesterday. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm just I ain't standing on a soapbox to give I'm standing. Oh, I got a text message from a couple of people in the soccer community I don't think they're clapping or saying his positive stuff, but tie well to your point Ponsatino fell in love with what he did here in America and we all fell in love with him Here's his press conference yesterday as he addresses the exit. I see him was Master class hard broken form One of the most difficult decision. No, what is it career? Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Okay. Love you punch Now for that Beautiful go get you an EBL title brother hit the bricks. Mo Like any coach both come on. We're not we're a strong Steve have some respect dude. What they're both full-time jobs Says who yeah with the United States. You got to go around and like blow up balls and shit No, he's not a ball blow up her. Okay, but he's not pumps He's driving the bus for every game. Yeah. He's got to sell the world's finest chocolate You know one raise and stuff like that All right, he's not selling little coupon book good for a national team. Okay. It's disgusting They're really good at some part you think it's some part time job trying to fucking win the row cup. No, I got a guy. Who? Sabin Coaches not a bad idea. I was able to figure it out. You don't think coach Sabin be real. You can hire an offensive coordinator and defense coordinator Goldie coach. Dicca did it too. What's he doing then? What is coach Sabin? How come he's not saving America? US men's national team. How much were we paying punch? Gumpy? How much were we paying? I believe it was six million you guys got 12 million to get But I don't know the deal. Okay, so six million feels like a big number for the head coach Yeah, you should flip the one year to coach that team. You should flip the 12 that you got and offer pep 20 million right now Pep Portiola, who is the name Sabin of soccer. I guess it's maybe available We'll see if they get him but the other guy that's on the radar. You do not want Roberto Martinez has failed everywhere He's been with Belgium every international team port to go. He's not the guy. So that's who we're gonna We got morons running it. That's why it's on the radar. Actually, I just looked it up. He can't do it It was six million rupees, which is a 60,000 US dollars I don't like the way this is turned into like coach Daniels had said 11 on the field. How many are on the soccer field? Well, yeah, we are we ain't beating anybody worth the fuck Let's get better. Let's get better. Where's their money coming from? Who who's paying his Talk the bars sell world fine. I hate the break it to you. There's an enormous amount of money at international soccer Okay, so here's we have a venture capitalist guy. We have a guy who's putting up the money for the team USA hedge fund billionaire Ken Griffin of the Chicago Chicago game runs the video huge. He's a huge. I don't know if his family's in software. Go to school I don't know Ken Griffin go back to that there if he could please Ken Griffin Harvard. He went to Harvard Ken Griffin went to Harvard. Turns out the guy that's managing a trillion dollars and hedge fund stuff want the heart Yeah, I wonder if that'll sort of he all covers salary worth seven several million dollars It's like NIL. I guess for some of these people who are tied in there Supported in significant part by philanthropic leadership board. Of course. He's philanthropic as are we I mean, you say good for that. How is always workers like a is there like a I don't know like do they pool the team US money for how does this work? So there's remember it was split um the US women's national team and the US men's national team and up splitting However much money is made from the world cup and from the meteorites deals that happen So I think they operate as a brand as an entity as like Notre Dame would whenever they're negotiating their deals But just like college NIL helps out whenever Ken Griffin comes in to front some of the Financial costs especially if you want to get a good coach like Mauricio Pontchitina looks like Ken Griffin's tied to Man you and the Glazer so might have been an inside job. Wow. Whoa So man you's gonna be they're gonna win it all now no doubt that too Compass man you very really good Uh, they're in the relegation zone 18th place right now. So what do you start right now? He starts as soon as he's gonna coach these last games for whatever reason He's still gonna coach and then as soon as the international breaks over he's coach a menu What games are they playing right now? Go on lads. We're playing gona. I think aren't we playing gona? Haiti maybe in like a friendly international situation. It's a conquered caffeinations league where goodness Uh, I can tell you on the corner Who we're playing Haiti and Jamaica, no wonder why tomorrow you're at Haiti and we're wondering why this guy's leaving the go coach in the premier league Fucking and you actually just uh, they pulled their food from their workers So their their workers don't actually get food anymore at the facility So there's not much money in Manchester United right now It's got enough to get poncho Tino out of the United States camp. He'll fucking you got Dostner rats if he has to To get that thing turned around Well, he was gonna do that for America, but so yeah, and I took one look at the boys and said These guys don't fucking got it. I gotta get out now And he did thanks. He's bringing a couple of boys with him. No, so that's good. Thank you. Thank you I don't think Christian politics one of those guys I saw no flow Baligan and Freeman. I believe are the ones rumored Uh, he won't bring him over there. Freeman is a dog so is Baligan a lot of the soccer people around us soccer players x players That I've encountered didn't know They really fucking hate that this guy came in here did this and now he's excellent. It's now we got to hear a restart Can they blame him though? Yeah, what did they expect? What do you mean? Can they blame him Yeah, he the sky came in said he was gonna change just signed a new deal after the World Cup. That's business, baby Now we're saying that because we live in a world where that is the business like in the soccer world I think him coming into team USA saying I love the challenge to do this. I'm changing and he was going after some of the big names He was changing the way US youth soccer was kind of operating in Eliza and then he just bailed on it Now we got to find somebody else. It's gonna That glory will be a great fit if we could get him sounds like that's a pipe dream. Let's you know what a pipe dream is this weekend a ball Enough about fucking punch team. Thank you. Yeah Got work to do. Yes, we do. We got college football alive. We got sports center. We got dinner tonight We got early morning. We got college game day. We got hoops tomorrow. What do you like in college hoops tonight, Steve? That Auburn line Mine's two and a half Arizona Virginia line reeks It's like poop stinks like shit Will you be doing any trades out here in Idaho? What? Are you trading? That's a problem. Oh, this guy doesn't even know what a trade is that when the changes to the market open up the app Hit the market, dude. Hit the trades a little bit. Draft kings has it set up perfectly I am not good at math and when I see the percentages, I just get all Not good. Yeah, but the percentages are a little bit too real Well, you know whenever they let you know like hey, you got markets. You got a 3% chance. You're basically to win this What'd you get in the state for plus a thousand? Yeah, whoops. We still don't know that what whoops and football There's one on how you got accepted in the Stanford Good grades Who's your major this I took the SATs six times What's his work? I got enough Go stole me get a number of any call me back so can you get a little high? I said coach. I'm done I got the number you told me to get that type of guy here to senior. I took six so this is a six six combo here Nine and a half percent that's so that me Let me do you have a nine and a half percent chance of hitting in there. I mean there's a $50 parlay for four and ninety bucks Morning line. Yes, sir. So plus five thousand This is actually lumpy's trade from this morning as you woke up at Pagano's house and said what's the trade market look like today Hopped on draft kings found this puts together a nine point five percenter now He's living on a less than a ten percent chance go ahead and make some magic happen today. Right gump. Let's go called hoops College who's been good to me shot at the draft kings having the trade market easy to utilize coast to coast If you are of age and agreed to do this all responsibly, we'd love for you to join us. If you're gonna be an asshole Get out here. Oh Get fucked Thank you All right, the different tell friends. I'm nice about change. You're like good work back here boys You two go tomorrow. Hey behind the glass good work this week boys. Good week boys AJ great work this week pal you too, buddy Graphic design boys tough week Finally got real loud, but hey another opportunity next week and the week after that, which we know gump go work This week, but go where boys. Good week. Uh barcode and crew. Thank you all so much for setting up here It's been absolutely beautiful boys. You state. Thank you for the hospitality can't wait for tomorrow morning 9 a.m. Eastern from our understanding. It's about to be an epic scene. Yes from from our understanding It is going to be one of those ones that we talk about much like JMU Montana state Cal Cal I can't get about power every time Kansas Kansas was epic yet. So for my understanding tomorrow should be a great time We're very grateful for whoever comes to hang out with us and we're also very thankful for all love you For allowing us to do this for a living if it wasn't all love you Watching our program every single day. We wouldn't get to live the greatest lives of all time Let's have the most stupendous weekend and we'll see you on overreaction Monday Be a friend, telephone, some nice of my change of life. We're understanding you have a team on me team on three It's half the best weekend yet, baby. Oh, yeah Hell yeah One two three team. Goodbye