PMS 2.0 1663 - MNF Recap, Trade Deadline Tuesday, Bills RT Spencer Brown, Drew Rosenhaus, CFP Executive Director Rich Clark, Ian Rapoport, Oregon Head Coach Dan Lanning, Adam Schefter, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

- Hello beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode. - The draft Kings Thunderdough. - On this NFL trade deadline Tuesday, November 10th, 2026, this sports program begins now. (upbeat music) - Football! - Here's the greatest, and last night, we had the incredible opportunity to be boots on the ground. From Monday night, football is the Buffalo Beals. Go into US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, Minnesota, part of the Twin Cities, beautiful place. We had a great time, spectacular fans and environment. One of the loudest stadiums we had ever been in. We don't want to say it's the loudest because that would be putting a couple other places into the conversation. We just like to say that there is a rush more of places, four of them that we've been able to be a part of. That place would definitely be a part of that college and NFL included. That was a special evening, could have been at least. Adrian Peterson goes into the ring of honor. That was a celebration. Brian Flores' defense continued to be a bit dominant early. That could have been a celebration. Maybe the worst quarterback performance in a history of football, you could use that as a celebration. Certainly. And we knew Carson Wentz could be great. I mean, we literally talked about it on this particular program. I think more than anybody else. It's Carson Wentz experience, okay. And I think there was a lot of people last night that were telling us on our way out of the game, like, hey, the way you guys talk about Carson Wentz, I didn't fully understand until tonight. And it's like, well, you didn't get a chance to see the good Carson Wentz. I mean, there is another polar figure of Carson Wentz that is like spectacular, like unbelievable. Where he was throwing that ball into the dirt. He's actually completing that pass, and that's going there. Instead of throwing it right into the defender's chest, after getting stepped on, he's actually like hitting the person he's supposed to hit. The guy, whenever he's right out there for a screen, Justin Jefferson, he's throwing that hit him in the hands as opposed to missing him. Those moments of Carson Wentz have happened in his, he's in like his 11th year, okay. He's been in the NFL a long time. You can't be what you were last night if your Carson Wentz is still being the NFL for 11 years. Honestly, there has to be some sort of yep situation that took place, or maybe all the good Carson Wentz ju-ju and good Carson Wentz football. Maybe just got sucked out of him. I mean, there's a chance that that thing could have withered away. Now, he's an old man. He was horrendous last night. And in doing so, we got a chance to see Josh Allen into Buffalo Bills, pound the rock and do everything we thought the Vikings were going to do. But instead, the Buffalo Bills Joe Brady come into that night. And I had the incredible opportunity to ask Joe Brady a question. I don't think he's done many media interviews. I think he's only done his press conferences since becoming a head coach. I believe, according to source, - Says. - I shouldn't be talking to anybody on a microphone. I've done nothing. I'm a first-year head coach. I don't want to be doing interviews. From our source, - Says. - Close to the situation. But Joe Brady on Monday Night Countdown answers one question. I say, "Hey, what are your thoughts on Brian Flores? "Is this guy different?" What is your immediate expectation? He goes, "They have to play us." And what "Us" is for the Buffalo Bills last night? Josh Allen, obviously, is Josh Allen. He's an alien, he's spectacular. James Cook, you hand him the rock. You hand him the rock. 30 different rushing attempts for James Cook. Over a hundred yards. Game ceiling touched down at the end of that thing. And they had a brand new offense aligned in front of him. This Buffalo Bills defense, made Carson Wentz look like a terrible version of a football player in the NFL. Maybe XFL, though? - No. - No. - He should retire today. - He's made a ton of money. - Yeah. - He's like, "Hey, that was common." Every 75, 76 games, he's got a good one. - We can't do it anymore. We can't do it anymore. We can't do the Carson Wentz experience stuff anymore. - He hasn't had a good one. We saw it live last night. - That's not funny. - That could not ever be on Monday Night Countdown. - This guy's not a football player. - It's a pinnacle. - Get him off the field. - That was bullshit. - Never again. - So excited about calling it a game. - Ruined football last night. - It was ridiculous. - It was one of the best defense of all time. We watched it with our own eyes. - All right, all right. - I don't know when you guys saw it. - We did just happen. - I don't know, honestly. - I can't do anymore though. He's a good quarterback sometimes. He's not. - Well, how about he's a good player? - What? - Offensive coordinator. - Yeah. - Oh, we're good. - Oh yeah, we can do that too. - We can do that too. - We would just like to say another word boots on him. We are Kevin Oak. That's a toxic table. I appreciate it with the way this just went. - You know what, we get a whole lot of sleep last night. I didn't know if it was going to come out this early. But I've kind of been stewing on that sense to play since the plane last night, not just Carson. Kevin Oak, how many free passes is he going to get? - We don't know the whole story. At some point, it's going to go out. - What happened? - He got a little town. - Hey, some elevator operator. Just maybe right now. - Well maybe. - Hey, yeah. - Hey, you guys are supposed to problem. Okay, we got a TV in here that has you guys on here. And all we're here in is quarterback expert, offensive guru. Guy can make anybody good. We're wondering when, as we're operating these elevators in the battles of US bank stadium in Minnesota. Is that potentially what has led to this? - I don't think so. I don't think this any idea who I do. I don't think, 'cause I don't think you would have said what he was saying, had he known who we were. And potentially that we're just going to repeat everything the next morning. I'm not going to do that. - What name? - What name? - What name? - Good name, did you have a good name? - You're Lauren. - Lauren. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, good guy. - Good boy. Good boy. Good guy. That's a joke. - Yeah, that obviously is not his name. He gave, and he, 'cause he certainly didn't know because what he said, he gave the kiss to death. He said, Kevin O'Connell is PJ Fleck. And had he known who I was. He would have never uttered those words. 'Cause now I can never go back. I can never go back. But also, I mean, listen, we're blaming Carson Wentz. Why the hell was he throwing that many times? - No, why the hell did he have that answer, Matt Brozmer? - He gave an answer, it was a hort shit one. - Kevin O'Connell said he was trying to get Carson Wentz in rhythm by continuing to throw despite the early struggles. But in retrospect, he should have utilized to run a game more. Right back side of Levin Carries, Mason was kind of getting going a little bit in a second half. There was still very much a game. Mason was kind of moving. I think the offensive line was like, "Oh, thank you. We're doing this." Why do we see this even? We saw Justin Jefferson. I think more upset whenever the passes were what they were. That whenever they were choosing to run the ball and Justin Jefferson was either off the field or were very separated. Kevin O'Connell, former player, friend of program. - Definitely. - Friend of program. But what we watched last night in calling it in real time, nine-year NFL v. Derrius J. Butler, also one half of the hammer. God, Cowboys, AP tone, we were flabbergasted by the decisions that were being made in real time by people that have been in the NFL a long time. Kevin O'Connell's been a head coach for a while now. Carson Wentz been in the NFL a long time. So we don't know who's checking to what plays, but like Orlovsky was so proud of himself. Orlovsky was so proud. Here's the play, Orlovsky really. I mean, he might have texted, he might have texted everybody he knew that he said this on the side of the cast. But as he said it, we're all thinking to ourselves, yeah, absolutely, especially with what we have going on. Here is a situation that arose last night that I think is a perfect depiction of why everybody in Minnesota is about fed up with everything on the offensive side. Not just Carson Wentz playing the worst football that they've ever seen. You got two safeties. This should be a run. Little be a throw. Carson gets a hit. [LAUGHTER] I mean, Bernard, a Carson Wentz who has one fumble in two picks thus far on the evening. OK, all right. So Buffalo Bill's defense found some. OK, Buffalo Bill's obviously found something. But those Minnesota Vikings fans were like, well, who's deciding to have Carson Wentz? That's 13-6 right there. Jordan Mason had just had three or two straight runs, three straight runs, game in yards. They were kind of in control of everything. And then Daniel loves to be like, here we go. That's exactly what we're looking for. This is exactly what we've been trying to do. Buffalo Bill's kind of sitting back at show. We can go ahead and pound this rock and just keep doing this. So we don't even have to put the game into Carson Wentz's hands and have a second later. We're putting it right back into Carson Wentz's hands and lo and behold, it's back into Buffalo Bill's hands go in the other direction. It felt like there was a lot of disappointing things happening during that game for the Minnesota Viking side. I think we all can agree with that. It was hilarious that that's all you guys decided to start. We are on three hours of sleep across the board. Lucky and thankful that we're on three hours of sleep. But we were actually in there, experiencing that with that phenomenal fan base that turned that place upside down. There was a lot of that. When Carson Wentz completed one pass, when they chose to kick a field goal, and they finally got in-- they only made it into the red zone one time. It was when Prosper got into the end of the game. Then the game was ending after the fourth and ninth tackle. They got into the red zone. That's the first time they got in there. Those fans understood everything was happening right in front of their faces. They've been living this entire season. They've been winning games without any offensive production. They kick a field goal, place goes crazy. Carson Wentz completes an easy pass, place goes crazy. And then there was just the groans to come on. This can't be what we are. And I tell you, when Prosper comes out there, he starts spinning a little bit the sarcastic oversil by the Vikings fans of the Minnesota allowed having some completions. Us too. I mean, we were calling it as if he was going, "Don't win a Super Bowl there." How did you know that in that moment? We were all kind of wondering that. But man, the Vikings fans, they're not saying this is just Carson Wentz. Yeah, Carson's the latest one. That's what-- believe me, we've been watching this now for a while. And it's like, is it because who Kevin O'Connor has had because you give him Sam Donald? They were very good. Then somebody in that building-- we assume it's not Kevin O'Connor, because he's still there. And Quacey's gone, decided to move on from Sam Donald. And it's like, OK, now what? They haven't had success since then. And it's been bad. And the Vikings fans are saying this ain't just the quarterback. This is the person running it. Let's go to the other side. Buffalo Bills prove anything to you last night? I loved watching that Buffalo Bills team and Joe Brady figure that out, because it was clear they had no clue what they were going to do against that Vikings defense. And it was clear that Joe Brady and Josh Allen, every single game, throughout the beginning of it, are figuring it out. Everybody's doing that. Obviously offense courtiers are trying to figure it out. But I think Joe Brady, Josh Allen, and that offense are actually like on the sideline. Like, I think if we do this, we can do this. this and at once they find what they need to do, they'll just continue to do it. James Cook, 30 Russia, staying that discipline to the run against that defense with the score being what it was. Josh Allen on another MVP like pace for what he's been able to do. You could see that maybe getting bored like Carson Wentz and go ahead and spend it instead pound, pound, pound, do what they got to do. That impressed me. It's been showing primetime with what some of these guys want to do. What did you see from the bills last night that you were pumped up? Absolutely. We talked about that environment, very, very hostile environment. It's tough to go in NFL, tough to go in a row and win a game. We know the favors did their thing this week, but to show they went into the game with the game plan for whatever reason they were trying to get to the edge on this Vikings defense. That was not working. You started after the fourth quarter, after the first quarter, then they adjusted. They started running downhill, they started getting quick passes out to the tight ends, quick passes out to the edge. Then like you said, just fed the ball to James Cook. I believe it was one carry short of his career, high, which was 32 and just pounded the ball down the rock. All of his great teams, the great quarterbacks, the dynasties of the year, and Josh Allen has had a ton of success in league, a ton of success in the playoffs. Haven't won a title yet. These teams of the past, they find different ways to win ball games. There were so many games in the playoffs with Tom Brady with just handed ball off 35 times, patching my home sometimes lean on the run games, lean on the defense. So to show Joe Brady a young head coach, Josh Allen and like you said, being patient. Because when you have that type of talent at quarterback, Josh Allen, you can lose some patience, try to take some shots. And I know they held the ball for 42 minutes, which is like third most in the last 50 years. For that Vikings defense to only give up 23 points with how, how, like they had no help. Vikings, O for eight on offense, we saw it, the historically bad performance from Carson Wentz at the quarterback position. I come away super, super impressed with the Vikings defense and then also very impressed with the Buffalo bills and just how they adjusted. Now they show that they can adjust to win any type of ball game. How about the bills defense? I mean, you know what? I can't even get them. Throw it out. Yeah, I can't give them. They're great players. I love Leonard. I think they are getting better. Sometimes you do need those get right games where everybody's filling themselves. You feel very confident. But that quarterback performance, that was, that was the worst, that was the worst should we ever see. Usually we look at quarterbacks. We look at coaches. And look, coaches need good players, especially National Football League. You need good players to be a good coach. That was the final straw for a lot of people say, you know what, KLC's probably not a good coach. We see job. We see all these different quarterbacks come through the system. It's like, I mean, we've seen a little bit of success. But now you see Carson Wentz is like, all right, how does he make it to game day? Like, what is he doing in practice? And we're watching it. This is the best thing about being called these games. We can see all the in between the TV time. I was talking about, I was talking about you watch Carson and the side line throwing the ball. We always talk about watching quarterbacks, just play catch. This dude never just threw like a, it was all. Yeah, exactly. Am I pushing? No, every single time he, because we're up there, you're doing Monday night counts out or whatever, but seeing Dan are on the field and then we can see everything up from the booth. And every time a different Vikings position group would run out, they blow the horn. So they let the fans out like, Hey, these position groups running out of the field cheer for whatever. So I hear the horn. I look, Carson runs out. The first thing he did, someone toss him a ball. This guy boots, spins and then throws off of one arm this way. That was his first throw for warmups. That's Carson Wentz experience. Seeing if a quarterback can play catch, I think should be a required part of the combine. Like, let's just have these guys play catch, okay? Because I've seen some quarterback played with some quarterbacks. I think we've watched the quarterbacks, can't play catch. That feels like a bad thing. 70% of Americans can play catch. 70% athletic athletic Americans can play catch. If you're a gentleman, big gentleman's hockey player, he can toss it. He's a 3540 yards huge head to hockey player play a little heavy handed. Yeah, you got to do that. He said, I also played baseball, you know, he went to a small school, he's an incredible athlete. I'd say 70% of athletic Americans can play catch. Don't you? Is that too much? Athletic probably. Some of these quarterbacks can't play catch. And it is, I lost my mind the first time. I was teammates with a guy who's being a professional quarterback. Okay, I'm punter. Bottom of totem pole athleticism. Maybe the lowest rated professional athlete in all of professional sports, my particular position. I'm watching this quarterback we just signed had an incredible college career. We'll say names gets in a can't play catch. Just throwing to an equipment manager 10 feet away. This thing's in the dirt in his knees at his head. Boom. So the equipment manager who's played catch with everybody in a history of ball because they work the combine throws the ball to the other equipment manager who catches it for the guy. Guy does it overhead. Okay, we turn around. Bang, we get it. This is his first two throws. I didn't know that was possible. But now that we go to a lot of these games. A lot of his motherfuckers can't play catch. I remember I'll impress you with Fernando playing catch. This is perfect. Every single. This guy can play catch this guy. He's a quarterback. We knew it. It's not first time. How is this the point that we're at now on that note? I think Carson Wentz could have played catch at some point in his career. Last night was the worst of all. No, he was dude. He was a goofball. What do he was playing catch? Yeah, but I'm saying like this last night was the worst of all the Carson Wentz worst. Oh boy. Yeah. The decision made. It should be his last his last chance. No one else should ever have to watch that shit again. Ever. All right, maybe we'll find out today trade deadline for. Can you imagine if you were a Viking spade and you paid 500 bucks a ticket to go sit down there and that is what you can do. I've never watched an NFL game again. Adrian Peterson's going in the ring of honor. Yeah, Randy Moss is there. Andre. John Randall. John Randall. Yeah, no, no, no, there's others. There was others. There was others. I ran into it. Oh, Andre, but thank you. All the famed bills are still alive. Yep. Knock I say it. I was told some stuff from a group of legends that could be pretty notable news from that. Not just him, but there was like a group of them. And I want to let them know. This is very abnormal. You should not have told me that and I told you that immediately upon you telling me that you should not tell me because I have this thing. I'm a hold it. There's cool news coming from a lot of the legends. I think out of the NFL world who whispers, but all those dudes are back in the building. That's just like whenever there's a homecoming game in college or in, you know, when the coach to a ring of honor, you get all the OGs. Grunk. You guys listen with all the boys back in the building. That's terrible. I think that's bad for morale. I think it's bad for fans. I think it's bad for building. Patriots going to bounce back. They're a good football team. Doing that last night, these Vikings fans paid more because it's money and a football paid more because Adrian Peterson's going in the ring of honor, paid more to see all the legends coming back and to show up for their team. And that was that was where they did their part. Yes. That is a legitimate home field advantage. So loud. So cool. All of the shit was so cool. Yeah. I mean, never again. I mean, college and that was snow. Did you guys get the snow on the field? No. So it comes. I think they released it from the roof or whatever. So I didn't like that part. It got all in my water. And I actually feel a little sick this morning. So I'm thinking about maybe following a lawsuit against the Minnesota. Anytime they do any Vikings, it was cool. It was cool. All right. Last night was special. Last night the Buffalo Bills run game ended up being the entire story. Lions did the same thing against Vikings. I wonder if this is what everybody's going to try. Vikings are going to have to put this fire out, I think, on the defensive side. But will they run into an offensive line that's been as dominant as the Buffalo Bills offensive line in an offensive coordinator and head coach that'll call a run ever single time. If that's how we're going to get it up. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, right tackle, six foot eight, 341 pounds out of northern Iowa. Ladies and gentlemen, eight man high school football player. That's right. I don't even know what that means. He anti athlete. Stodd. Ladies and gentlemen, right tackle the Bill Spencer bro. Hey, Stolly, we're doing some Iowa stuff. I like that. I really absolutely Valley every day was a congratulations. Huge win last night. We were just talking about everything that we noticed in experience. Minnesota Stadium was awesome. I wonder if you were you guys talking about that at all the experience that felt like college a little bit that felt like a very real atmosphere last night. Did you guys witness that in experience at all? That place was an absolute beauty just from just how the stadiums laid out to Monday night football. Skull champ was awesome. I had a ring of honor for Adrian Peters and awesome and crowd was fired up and I love playing a hostile environment. So now it's easily a top three spot for me. A good way to go into a hostile environment and get a win is to just pound the rock, dude. Just pound the rock. And when Josh Allen running as much as he runs and obviously James cook being one of the top backs and you guys being one of the top of the lines and the team that's projected to the Super Bowl, you're going to have to be able to run the ball. Obviously you're going to have to be able to run the ball. That's part of the business. Did you guys know last night was going to be a pound the rock night and how is it feel as you're in the middle of that thing and it starts to kind of bust for James Cook in the third quarter then into the fourth quarter? How are you guys feeling going in and then as it's happening? Yeah, you pride yourself and run the ball half to every single week in this league. It affects every other faster the game. So, you know, we're banging our head on a wall there for the first quarter to quarter and a half there. So, you know, it was bloody runs for a while. Jimmy's held a running back in between the tackles just getting north, getting his pads down. And, you know, early in the game, we were running the ball for one to yard. Just sitting there at second and 10 second along and they just walk everybody up. So, it's causing problems. And as the game went on, you know, those two, three yard runs turned to four, five, six, and then late in the fourth, it turns into eight, nine. And that's when everything opens up and can always rely on Jimmy. - Yeah, James Cook, absolute beast. Literally run the shit out of the ball last night and that's one of those things. Yeah, absolutely, like a beast. Let's talk about your offense aligned though, 'cause you guys were tasked with a lot, especially going against this Minnesota Vikings defense. We have Grable who was on right tackle duty last week. He goes over to left tackle. Austin Corbett is now playing left guard. You were back and it's a pound of rock night. Can you tell me about the boys up front and how that O'Line Room feels today after a huge win on Monday night? - Couldn't be proud of the boys. Glad to see Corbett get in there and do what he does, but I just want to talk about Grable guy. It's been here doing the right things and gets his opportunity in the LA game and then gets into the opportunity against the Ravens and then again here tonight. And he's just, you know, the more snaps he gets, the confidence in him grows and it's good to see him be able to flip-flop back and forth. It's something I could not do. I would be shit in my pants if I had to play left tackle. So him going back and forth and I have him blinkin' and I'm on a night football execute and couldn't be happy for the guy. - Yeah, he played right tackle to his point in four Spencer a week ago. And then last night for Dion Dawkins, who one of the best players in all of football, not just offense alignment, he's out Dion Dawkins. We missed him. I think the energy missed him. I assume you guys missed him as well. But Grable then goes right over to left tackle and I didn't know much of Grable. I saw me. I should know more about offense alignment. While you guys are running at ball on the third quarter though, Grable's doing a, I mean, Grable is doing a, there's a little, I don't know if you guys see it on film. It's almost like Grable's doing this as he's on the field. Yeah, I mean, he was, he was completely, you guys were, I felt like you guys were really vibin' out there. 42 minutes out. - We were vibin'. - 42 minutes, I didn't see that until this morning. I was like, I felt like I was out there while, but yeah, three-quarters of the game. It's a hell of a stat, so I appreciate you boys. - Yeah, you know what you're doing whenever you're out there. That's running the ball. That's matriculating, actually matriculating the ball down the field. You didn't know the stats about that, but you did know you guys had a huge game. What was the flight like back? I forget about how late those are, no matter how short the flight is. Monday night is a little bit of a late night. How were the lads last night coming back from Minnesota? - Lads had a blast. Monday night football, hostile environment, knockdown dragout fight. You guys are just smiling and enjoying each other and just really, the enjoyment of winning a game like that is hard to match. I'm sure you've experienced that plenty as well, Pat. But, you know, coming back, hard to come down from that high, all the adrenaline, the dopamine, everything's run to the max. So, you know, I found myself sitting on a porch last night, listening to the Allison Schains, having a little American spirit. So, I mean, it's hard to come down from a keepsake from that dopamine. It's a, but it's the best. It's the best job in the world. It's the most rewarding feeling in the world, and you know, with locker room we have here, it's the best time ever. - All right, we're gonna dive into the culture in the locker room in a bit, but I just like to think of your neighbors going to work early, seeing a six foot eight monster. Okay, hey, look at the baboon over here, smoking American spirit on the front porch after winning Monday night football. You're a throwback. We love to hear that about the Buffalo Bill's offense alignment and NFL offense alignment as a whole. Can you tell me about the culture of your team? Because Joe Brady hired from within. Young lad, first time being a head coach in the NFL. Florida boy though, always has a great fade. Had a chance to chat with him Monday night countdown last night, and I asked him about Flores, you know, as he differ, and he said, he said, I think I play us too. I mean, can you tell me about his leadership style versus make Dermott's and what it's done to the building? And how do you guys feel about your culture right now? - Yeah, he just brought up whole new energy and juice and, you know, same, same players, but different philosophy. And I think the guys really just bought in, you know, he's a put the ball down guy or wants to put all these facets into the game of just running analytics or whatever. Just just make a simple spot. So put the ball down, execute. When first down, go one and a half. When the next play, all just the buzz words and simplifies the shit out of it. We just run with it. So it's great. Everyone's buying in the team's vibe and always has always will be, but he's got a lot of good guys in the locker and that helps out a lot. - Yeah, Joe Brady, super talkative loves all the gimmicks. Have you seen his ex account, Convin? - No. - No. - I'm not. - Allegedly, this is him just 1-0 tweets. That's it. 1-0. - Okay. - 1-0, 1-0, 1-0. The only thing this guy cares about 1-0 last night, I put an ask into boyco, shout out to boyco. - Shout out. - He's hair looks phenomenal right now. - Always. - I'm thinking that's gotta be fake. - Boyco. - No. - Look real. - Little turkey, little turkey trip. - It looks real. So it would have to be a very good turkey trip. I think if it was, but it's way too strict. Don't you think he's got a real strong one of these? - It's pampered, it's pampered, but it looks phenomenal every day. - The legit and then he has a good stance like this too. You know, boyco is good at what he does and the hair looks phenomenal, but I reach out to him for Monday night countdown. Like, hey, we need to talk Joe Brady or Josh. I mean, that's a way to do it. Like, well, Josh is already doing something with Ms. Laura Rutledge. So Joe Brady isn't doing interviews. So you need to pick somebody else. And I was like, I want to talk to Joe Brady. Can we not talk to Joe Brady? He's like, Joe Brady doesn't think he's good enough to do interviews. He hasn't done shit because his words are like, wow. I love that. I mean, I absolutely love that out of Joe Brady. Feels like the perfect guy to lead your particular team on this particular year. There's another guy who's an alien, who's obviously on track to maybe win another MVP. Debut has a question for you, Spencer? Yeah, so I'm out of bed in MVP favor right now, your quarterback, Josh Allen. Kind of an extension of your coach on the field. What was his leadership like on the field? Because you talked about a high star environment. Obviously, it's a tough Vikings team. He made the phenomenal play to lie to, had to pick early, but bounced back from that. Just tell me a little bit about Josh's leadership in the midst of a game like that. We all know who Josh is. We're well aware of his capabilities and what he can do for our team. And one thing you guys heard anybody in general doesn't get to see is just he breathes confidence into a team in the huddle of hostile environment, just how he rattles a play call off, his play style. Obviously, making plays like that. But breathing confidence in your team and a guy that you want to play for that. I mean, it just takes over a team and everyone feeds off of that. And you know, we're in those hostile environments. All you got to do is rely on each other. You know, you're in it together. So having him at the helm, lead us north is a big thing for us. Really tight team, huh? Absolutely. How do you feel about the defense? Feels like they had a big night. Everybody's talking about Carson Wens being asked, which is our not. It was hard not to, though, those Vikings fans were. I don't think we would have talked about it as much today on like three, four hours of sleep here. If on our way out, we didn't hear it from literally every Vikings fan that we encountered who knew who we were. But your defense had to put on a hell of a show last night. At the beginning of the season, a lot of questions about Jim Leonard and his defense if they're going to be able to keep up with you guys on the offensive side. Can you tell me about this defense? What it's like in practice and how you feel about what they did last night? Practice wise, training camp is easy. The hardest part of my year. Greg, you're so right there making plays. Deon Walker, absolute man on the inside. And then you have the linebackers just fly around. So everybody want to talk shit about them. I think they've played absolutely lights out the last two weeks. They're just getting better and better every single week, which is what you want out of a team. You don't want them to peak week four. You want the boys to peak in November, December, or on January, everything figured out. So new scheme with Jim coming in here. And I think the guys are really buying in after they got it down. And everyone's just playing as one right now in the defense. And it's fun to sell to watch. Head Carson seeing ghosts. And I think it's like the second worst performance in the last 10 years behind Sam Darnold, whenever he was seeing ghosts on Monday night football. Now the bill's defense not getting any credit today. The only conversation is Vikings need to trade everything. They have to get a new quarterback. It's like, well, what about the bill's defense? And what they were able to do. You guys top of the mountain, always buyers. Tone is a question for you. Yeah, it's best I do. It's I feel like the, I don't know, 10th year in a row. It feels like we're ever sent, or since Josh has been quarterback that you guys are one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl. It's not like not that you guys care that you're favorites to win the Super Bowl. But have you guys, is there a talk in the locker room ever? Because during the long season about the finishing of the season, the finishing of the season, because that's kind of been their hurdles so far for your team, is that talked about? Or it's just like, like, coach is tweeting out one and a half every week. Hey, that's just coach tweeting out one and a half. I don't think you can get caught up and worry about playoffs or how we're going to do. I think you just want to win a division as a big thing. If you get the one seed, that's even better. You know, you rest the legs there at the back after the year and then roll in the playoffs. But everyone's just fighting for playoffs spots right now. And we're just going to keep trying to go one and a half every week. And once the playoffs start, we'll put the ball down then. How tall are you? Six, eight. Are you tallest and weak at tackle? I don't know. That's a good question. Trying to get losses up there. My lot of there from the Eagles. And then a kid from Miami. Yeah, Mark Elbrown. Yeah, I'm Ricky. Ricky from Miami. He's-- I think he's taller than me. He looks bigger. Shit. I'm feeling less way bigger than me. OK, so let's talk about the size. Six, eight. Feels like would be maybe two-bit. I don't know, because guys can get low as much as they can. Like, can you tell me a little bit about your size being a gift? I would assume whenever we're running the ball is well-putting that big body with how athletic you are on somebody. And then maybe with the new style of pass rushers, is it, how do you train that six, like, what is your big-- getting down is the hardest thing I want to send for you, but that's where guys go, right? Yeah, the pan of the ground is a little bit difficult for me. And actually coming out of the draft, my agent, Chase Galan, when I was doing Reese's Senior Bowl stuff, he said, get shorter when you do your measurement. So I went up there and everybody's usually trying to stretch their neck out. I actually like shorten mine down to be shorter because he's like, there's no six-nine tackles at a point in the NFL. I'm like, OK, I'll listen to you, I'm paying for your advice. And yeah, there's pros and cons to it, but pass pro is easily a big pro along arms. Get out of your stance, keeping people away from you. It's great, though. Can't find pants, though. That's a pain, yes. Yeah, I assume you're going to have to just continue to get those tailored at, you know what I mean? It's expensive, it's expensive. You look good out there, I'm be honest. You're a strapping 6.8 athletic large lad. Ty has a question for you. - Yeah, Spencer speaking of being that tall. How often have you went up to Josh and Joe and maybe been like, I don't know if you guys know I was first team all state tight end, you know, in high school. Maybe when we get down to the goal line, you split me out wide, Josh, maybe throw me a fable or two. I saw they sent you in motion a couple of times last night. Like, you know, a little eye candy. Is there any, you know, emphasis on your part of like, hey, kind of just give me an opportunity when we get down here. I'll go out there and make a play for you. - Emphasis, no, I've not pressed the envelope on that. I would love to do that though. I would celebrate so hard if I score a touchdown. But there was a little wrinkle last year with a possibility, but it's kind of thrown out, but maybe we'll revisit that. Thanks to you boys. - Oh, oh, sort of, get a little shifty. - Are we in the end zone? Are we, oh, I don't know if I can be a right tackle. I'm mostly just a left tackle, I'm realizing. 'Cause I got a good, you know, I can-- - It's not that easy to switch, you see? - No, it's not. - I don't know if I got one over here. I mean, Kirk Herb Street's gonna be excited here that I don't have a right tackle set, you know, 'cause he thinks I should have been a left tackle, which I might have been one of my, I don't, I mean, look at shit. I don't even know where, I gotta be a left tackle only. You know, that's what I'm learning in real time here. But you're gonna do one of these. Boom, bang. - Yeah. - Boom, no-- - Absolutely, over the cover. Just drop it in there. - Oh, you're not even gonna turn and jump 'cause you're six foot in, taller than everybody. You're actually just gonna do standard in a bucket, make Josh Allen make the throw. - It's like saucy, yeah, just like finesse it. And then we just pound the closest beer, closest to us and get five thousand dollars. Thank you, Bud Light. - Have a plan. - Have a plan, definitely have a plan in there. They have, set precedent on what they will do to that, even a fake beer. You know, so I couldn't even imagine what real beer could potentially do. But how many times you get in the end zone, act like you've been there before, I have it. So-- - That's right. - So how am I supposed to act? Like, I've never been here before. I'm gonna need two of these tall boys 'cause I'm a tall boy as well. Let me go ahead and get after it. I can't wait to see it. Joe Brady. - I don't think about it. - Joe Brady, get it going. Last question here, 'cause we don't get a chance to chat with any of the big boys that are still playing currently with the change of ball and change of everything that's happening in front of our eyes. It feels like your life is a massive piece of it, like a con man. - Yeah, Spencer, congrats on the win last night. And right now, it kind of halfway through the year already. And it feels as though that year is gonna get a little longer with 18 games being discussed. And that seems inevitable. And then also the other part of it, you know, doing an international game, every single team getting one. I'm sure you're looking forward to a 12 hour flight at six nine. But what are kind of your thoughts when it comes to the season expanding? Do you think that'll inevitably be good for the league? - Yeah, there's a lot of mixed reviews on that. Mixed thoughts from a health and safety standpoint. Is it beneficial? Everybody loves more football who isn't gonna watch it. But we just gotta make sure that we're doing it the right way. I feel like flying overseas, that's taxing for the body. I mean, I just flew them from Minnesota. It's gonna take me three days to feel better about it. So, from a player health and safety standpoint, from a PICBA coming up, we gotta make sure that we're just honing it on those details. I mean, I know the league cares about us. They care about us so much. They'll find us for hitting each other too hard. So, they care, I'm sure they're on top of it. But yeah, we'll see what happens. - I forgot that they care about you that much. I've never really realized that they care about you so much. They don't want you guys hitting each other too hard. - That's right. That is right. I'm just curious where that money goes. - Uh, you know, it's good. - You might know. They say-- - Who's walking in there? - No, it goes to something good. - Great call. - Remember, you're supposed to go to a retired player or something. 'Cause I remember, at one point, we have pressed this issue a little bit, 'cause I've been fine a couple of times, you know, off-field stuff. - Sure. - Yeah, that stuff, you know, kind of happens. There are tweets potentially in this entire thing. But yeah, I think it goes to a retired player. - That's what you dig, you're fine for hitting somebody or in that building, too. At Minnesota building. But yeah, it's supposed to go to church. Some type of charity. - I think it's some sort of something good. - You-- - We can look it up. - Yeah, you want to start your-- - Grass fields. Just go plant some seeds in the ground with that money. - That's smart. - That's more than I will. - That's caring about some people, caring about the players right there. - And the future of the league. And also, more grass, better earth, I mean. - So, you tell me, it feels like that maybe should be where the cast moves to. And why don't you, you need to get fine more, maybe, to help everything. Maybe that's what you need. - I'll do my part. I'll do my part for the greater good. - Okay, there you have it. - Hey, it's a gentleman, there it is. Buffalo Bill's right tackle. In his sixth year at a northern Iowa, from a beautiful town in Iowa called-- - Lennox, Iowa, baby. - Where's that at, Ty? - What is that? It's like Southwest. - Two up and two over. - Yep. Two up and two over from Waterloo, or-- - No, I'm North-Eath Island. - Bot left corner. - But, you and I is right next to Waterloo. - Oh. - Okay, smart dogs. - How are we, are we good? Or are we stink? What are we in Northern Iowa, we're good? - We're battling. - How'd you get there? Could you fight eight man? Is that literally how you end up in-- - I was a fetus when I was coming to high school. I was as tall as I am now, but I was 215 pounds. I'd lie on my highlights. I'm 235, no shot, dude. - Tiny little guy, quite a gross part in college. Maybe some liquid meals in college in Northern Iowa. I assume we do that a little bit. Well, congratulations on everything. Huge win last night. Get healthy, we'll see you next time, brother. - Absolutely, appreciate it, boys. Got speed. - Got speed. Ladies and gentlemen, Spencer Brand. I never heard it worded like that. - What's that? - They care about us so much, they find us for hitting each other too hard. That's a funny thing. The smartest to drop that into the convo. Oh, you guys care so much about us, we can't hit each other too hard. That's very kind of you Thursday nights, Wednesdays, Saturday, Sunday, Australia, Germany, Brazil, Spain, England, France, anywhere else. Canada, Mexico, Mexico. China? - Yeah. - What's that? - That's not real. - Go to China. - Shanghai, right? - Yeah. - That is right. - Who said they're going to China? - Did they talking about it? They said it's all but a done deal. - It's Lama Bell, I think. - Tokyo go after that. - They're going to Islamabad. - I've seen many of those. - Yeah, Fallujah. - I thought it was Kuwait. - No. - No, that too. - Is this at USO? That's where you guys are going. What are you guys talking about? I would like us going to USO. - I don't see any of those. - No, you're confusing USO with NFL. - The NFL saw the price of oil and said, let's get to some oil countries. - I don't think that's how that works. I think it's the Tokyo is on deck. That is Japan. - No, look up Shanghai. We're going. They're doing the outreach event in Tiananmen Square, I think. - I mean, he's got a lot of deeds there. - He's cool. - That's just, he's dropping everything he knows about China. You know, this is great. They're going to call it defense. It does best. They're the great world. - Yeah, it's a couple good, great wall graphics. - The NFL does not have any regular season game scheduled in Shanghai, China, where the NFL maintains an international office in Shanghai. - Yeah, exactly. - Was it outside the Kremlin or was it? - I don't think they're going to rush it. The amateur and semi-pro leagues over there are Shanghai warriors and Shanghai night hogs. - Good ballers. - Yeah, okay. - Maybe that's where Carson could play quarterbacks. - All right. - No, that's not a bad idea. - I don't know if they, I what type of ducks they got in China. He's only flying 12 players where they're dying. - I think that's the delicacy, actually. - Yeah. - Where you wanna get your duck? - Well, he's a duck, but we're not getting into that. - He'd look great. - Shout out to the growth of the game, but I do like that offense alignment and defense alignment that have to fist fight each other every single player going. - Yeah. Yeah, this is awesome, man. Flu for Minnesota. He said it's gonna take me three days to recover from that. It's six foot nine with the amount of pounding we did last night against. An incredible defense that hunts every single play. It's like the big guys are the ones that have to kind of pay the price for all this type of stuff. It was an eye opening experience in the training room. After a Sunday game later in the season, whereby Wednesday or Thursday is like the first time a guy is like walking around training room. Last two days in a building that I've seen them either Monday, Wednesday or Tuesdays or Tuesdays, Wednesday after they're doing a Monday thing. He's literally just sitting on table in corner of training room with shit attached to his entire body. And it's like, well, is he going to meetings today? Probably not gonna go to meet in here probably. Gonna go through his playbook, do his all thing. Is he going out to walk through? No, no chance. He's going out to walk through. What's he doing? He's just trying to like. - He's being able to stay at that. - We're trying to get it back there. - And then, oh yeah, we went there. Superb of that. You're lucky to do that. We're not complaining about it. But the season was even longer. - Oh yeah. - When they added the Thursday game to everybody's life, I think there was a lot of offense alignment. They were like, that's my first day really back being like an adult. Like a human being able to move. Now you get another game. The NFL says they think about all that. - Oh yeah, sure. After the money, you know what I'm saying? See the money. But I mean, most of our career was 16. 16 now is, you know, a couple of years. It'll be 18. So like you said, all these, especially like the veteran teams, like we saw Randy Moss last night. That was my first, as a rookie, that was one of my first teammates. You just seeing those guy, Randy Moss, Vince Woolf, or Richard Seymour, you know, Brady Kevin Faulk, seeing those guys get to like Sundays. You know, so like a lot of it is mental. Especially in the Bella Check program, like we were practicing. And our practices were intense. A lot of these practices now is more so, hey, get the guys to the games, a lot more walkthroughs, a lot less padded practices. So that is kind of the player's safety element of it. But I mean, it's still a, it's still a very, I mean, we're out there boosting the ground. It is a very, very violent game and it always works. - Yeah, they're still hitting each other. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, they are very much still hitting each other. Very, I mean, it was a very explosive game last night. And that Niners defense, we watched them. - Oh my God. - They were. - Go. I mean, it was a car crash every collision, everybody on the field. Not just where the tackle was happening, where a block was happening over here. We're us getting to watch it and feeling it's a nice reminder. - Oh yeah. - It's a nice reminder. - Hey, James Cook touched on that POV we had. Just, we knew exactly what was coming. - Pond. - BOOM. I mean, Carson Wentz had a chance. Well, I'm sorry, Max Brosmer had a chance after that. - Almost did it. - And eight, five, six, five to one, y'all. - It came eight more minutes, who knows. - I seriously, you were calling for it. - I was. - He went to the other, I heard Joe Buck was calling for it in main broadcast, too. - Yeah. - And Troy Akman said, "I mean, what are we doing?" I guess the entire time, whenever Max Brosmer was the name getting called for it, with this Minnesota Vikings defense. From my understanding, from reading the trend, like a lot of the tweets from Troy Akman last night, Troy Akman is very bummed out that they're wasting his defense on Minnesota, which I think a lot of people are including Vikings fans. - Yeah. - It's like, man. - It has to be. - His defense is remarkable. - And no disrespect to Daniel Jones or anything like that, but when you're like, your season basically rests on, "Hey, we gotta go trade for Daniel Jones." I know he's thrown four touchdowns and 11 picks this year, but he looks like Jesus Christ compared to Carson Wentz. So like, when that's the situation you're in, not great, like they legitimately might have to trade a first round pick for Kurt Cousins. They might have to, they might not have a choice. Because this defense can go win them a Super Bowl. - Easier. - Yeah, I mean, especially teams good, too. - Yeah. - Punner murders the ball. I mean, Thorson's their punner. I was watching him in warm-ups. He thumps that thing. Will Riker never miss his defense everywhere. Offense, Addison's wide ass open a couple times. - Oh, yeah. - Justin Jefferson is Justin Jefferson. He can't be happy. DJ Hawkinson, you forget he's six foot six, incredibly athletic. - He delphired up the crowd. - Oh, double back from junior, at number nine, on last night he was active. He didn't get into the game much, didn't get into the offense, the swing and thing. Aaron Jones can get the job done. Mason can get the job done. It's like, on paper, not if it makes sense. But then your eyes see it and it goes, that's the worst we've ever seen in our entire life. How is that even possible? They're even getting talked about maybe being like the chargers this year on the offensive side. But maybe, of course, somehow, crazy to think about. But then they're saying maybe call Justin Herbert. That's what Dan Rolowski was saying last night. If I'm the Vikings, I'm making the most obscene ask yesterday. I'm calling the bangles. How much for Joe Borough? They're gonna say no, sweep. Where I'm calling, everybody. He said, with this defense, you got to do these calls yesterday. And after watching it, it's like, yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. They haven't 'til four o'clock today. A man who knows a lot about the trade deadline, a lot about what's happening behind the scenes, and a lot about multiple situations that are currently brewing in the NFL universe. Friend of the program, Legendary. Founder of Rosenhaus Sports, Drew Rosenhaus. (clapping) Drew, thank you for joining us, brother, on this trade deadline day. How are you doing? - It's a hectic day. I've got a lot of clients on an edge, Pat. We had a client traded yesterday, Devon Gacha. He went to the Jaguars from the Saints. And last year at this time, we had Rashid Shaheed, who was traded from the Saints to the Seahawks. And that was a big trade because Shaheed was instrumental in the Seahawks winning their championship. So, will there be more trades like that today? Absolutely. - Okay, so tell me how much the agent is a part of that. And we'll dive into Ayuk, Tyree, Kill, other situations here at a matter of moments. But since we are on trade deadline day here, waiting for the trade parade to continue from the past couple of days, agents, now there's two different situations, I assume, where the team is trading player without player knowing it. And then there's player requesting trade. What is much more likely to happen? And how often are you involved in something before it maybe gets decided or announced publicly? - Usually I am involved, especially if there's a contract in place, or there should be a new contract because the player may be in the last year of his deal. When the team's trade for players, remember, they're acquiring a contract, and they're giving up compensation. They may be giving up picks, another player. And you know what, it's not ideal if you lose that guy at the end of the season, in eight or nine games, possibly, to free agencies. So you call the agent and say, can we work on a contract extension? We're thinking about trading for your client, but we also want to add some more years to the deal. Sometimes teams will reach out and ask how my client will feel about a trade. There will be teams that will often call and say, look, we're interested in acquiring your guy to see who want to be here. We don't want to bring in a player that doesn't want to be a part of our program. So for example, Pat right now, we have a client, Josh Sweat, the defensive end, the pro ball end, from the Cardinals. He's been a topic of conversation. I'm not allowed to talk to teams because he's under contract. So this could be a trade that takes place without reaching out to me. A club could just acquire his current deal. He's two and a half years left on his contract. So they wouldn't need to call us unless they wanted to find out if Sweatie wanted to be there. So that's one guy to keep an eye on between now and four o'clock. - Okay, well, certainly do that with Sweat. His name has peaked into the conversation of potentially hitting the trade parade here on Trade Deadline Day. Thank you for the insight on it because we know insiders get their information from a lot of different people, but it feels like they might find out before the player even finds out. And then, so we're all trying to figure out who all knows about these before they happen. You got both GMs, you got both personnel teams, and then agents sometimes evolved, especially if it's a hey, do you want to come and not come? So that's how these all leak out. You think, 'cause for instance, there was just a trade rescinded that way it's reported publicly because of a compensatory pick. So the Eagles traded away. Arnold. Ooh, thank you. - Thank you. - To the bangles in exchange for a six-round pick. Okay, so they move on. Then they learn, oh, wait a second. We're gonna lose a third-round compensatory pick if this happens. We don't wanna do that at all. So it's like, who tells them that, who gives them that information? The leak tells them that as they're putting that in is an agent saying that, like, when do they find out after? Because it feels like there's a lot of chaos around all of these moves, true? - Yeah, the NFL would chime in on that, or this might be a polite way perhaps of advocate he's saying that he doesn't wanna go play for the bangles. And this could be a nice way of kind of killing the deal. I'm just speculating. I don't know that to be the case. He's not a client, but I've killed a few deals in my time over the years. We had Antonio Brown who was traded, and we wanna knock in that deal out. We've had make-up-its-patcher traded. We restructured that. He went to another team. There are a lot of trades that we've killed over the years because our clients simply don't wanna be a part of the trade. That's been said before, many great players, Rob Grunkowski said, "I retire." Whatever he was traded to the Lions. - Okay, is that right? - I retire. - I'm like, "I was in the middle of it." Rob's our client. I was in the middle of that deal. I had to call Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn, the GM and head coach and say, "Hey, Rob's not gonna play in Detroit. It's other New England or retirement." We then call Bill Belichick. Rob flew up and met with Bill the next day. They worked things out. Rob wanna play in that season. - With New England. - But players have done this in the past, we're saying. - So this is a part of the business. Today could be a lot of insanity. Okay, let's talk a little bit about some insanity. And I don't mean that in a way to say something negative about something, but just a situation that is unfolded in the NFL that we could have never expected in 2026. Brennan Iyuk with the San Francisco 49ers. It has all been very public. We've all seen the relationship deteriorate. We've heard from both sides now. We know that there's a potential pending financial penalty because of a signing bonus. And then that having to be paid back to the tune of allegedly $13 million. With then we find out Brennan Iyuk signs with you to be his representative. And immediately you gotta work. Now, we would like to say this. We don't think you signed Brennan Iyuk if you didn't have hope in Brennan Iyuk. You could sign anybody. You could represent anybody. You still work your ass off. You're one of the greatest in the history of all agents. Let alone sports agents, let alone NFL agents. So whenever we see that he signs with you, that was a big indicator to us that maybe he's for real because you would have to check that first. And then getting him back onto the field with all the financial shit and personal offensive shit that's kind of happening. What are your plans? We saw you have a helicopter fall you around and your sprinter van going to Starbucks. We saw you talk outside of there with Brennan Iyuk. Can you give us a little bit more information on what the goal is and how we're going to get there for Brennan and that money feels like a big deal a part of this entire thing Drew. - Yeah, so let me just start with this. Brennan was recommended to me by a couple of our clients. He gave me a call last week. We had a great conversation. We had a meeting. And yes, I am convinced that he is back on track that he is heading in the right direction. I'm in the business to help players and I felt like this was a player that could use my help. He was in a dilemma. Really in Limbo, no man's land. I have a great relationship with the 49ers. I have a lot of respect for Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch and the 49ers organization. When Brennan hired me, I got on the phone. I brought those two together. We want to. out and met with the team and the team they gave Brandon a physical. He's healthy, number one. He passed the physical. He was reinstated to the league, which is huge. But the NFL, like in any case, when a player's out this long, gave the 49ers a two-week extension. What happens from here? Well, Brandon will add their play for the 49ers when the two weeks is up. Or they can decide to release him by which he will be a free agent. And I expect that there will be interesting yet. I definitely expect him to play this season. Judging the comments from Coach Shanahan, it doesn't sound like they plan on bringing Brandon back. So when the two weeks is over, it's my job to potentially find a new team for him. And I'm confident now that he's healthy that he will play. As far as the money that's allegedly owed pack that $13 million, whatever it is, he hasn't paid anything yet. That's something that will work out separate and distinct from the issue of him playing. Hopefully, we'll work something out to the benefit of Brandon's and something that's fair. And that's also part of my job. Okay, so thank you for all the insight insights to the situation. Brandon Iyuk, having suitors is something that you would not say publicly if it was not actual. I remember going into draft, everybody was questioning why you weren't doing workouts for Julian Carter. And you're like, he's not traveling anybody outside of Ted. Okay, he's not doing that. That's just don't what we're doing. And everybody was like, oh, Drew Rosenhouse is maybe hurting his client and lo and behold, I think there's picked nine to the equals or something like that happen. You had a good inside track on what was possible there. So it sounds like you think Iyuk's services will be wanted around the NFL. Whenever you say he passes a physical, have you seen him play football as well at this point? Have you talked to him? Have you heard about what happened? Like how do you think you're selling? Not selling, but how do you think you're working for your client? Whenever NFL teams are calling asking a lot of questions about what we've all seen very publicly over the last few months slash year with the San Francisco 49ers. Well, I definitely would tell the team that he has passed many physicals with the 49ers. He had an MRI. He had X-rays. He had a physical exam. And he passed it with flying colors. He's working out on his own. He's running routes. He's catching footballs. He says he's 100% ready to play. We'd be glad to go and work out for interested teams if he is released by the 49ers. And as far as me talking to the teams, I think that in all likelihood, Brandon would probably sign with the team that knows him, that somebody that has somehow been affiliated with him, either in college or the 49ers, that's just my guess. Just, you know, there's a lot of that in the NFL. You see people connect the dots where they have history, where there's relationships. I don't know where yet, but that's just my assumption that something like that could happen. A former coach, maybe a former player that he played with, somebody that knows him. And I think he's in a really good place. He met with the 49ers. He did a good job in the meeting with them. He settled out at John Lynch. He met with the team. I just feel like he's in a good place. And getting to know him over the last week, I'm confident in his future moving forward. All right, I'm excited to see what that relationship is. Damn good football player, which is why we are all so bummed out about how it was going. Please wish him our best luck through this entire process. Excited to see where he ends up. You're saying you're expecting him to play this year. Let's go to another former wide receiver for the Niners. Go ahead, tone. Yeah, Drew, I wanted to ask you about John Jennings. There was some news that maybe he turned down a potential trade to return back to the Niners in that situation. And there's also obviously smoke around him on the trade deadline today, potentially being on the move. Didn't play last night with the Vikings and then obviously they're in the news for the trade market. Well, what's the latest on Joanne? And do you expect anything to happen within today? You know, I talked to Joanne just a couple days ago. And he did miss the game, but it's nothing significant. He's got a cap strain. We're hopeful that he'll be back for the next game. As far as the trade and all my discussions with Joanne, he seems very happy in Minnesota. And it's my belief that he'll continue with the Vikings. We have a lot of clients on the Vikings. We've heard you guys speculate about quarterback. >> Yes, yes. >> Just watching that game as an advocate for our guys. Players like Van Ginkgole and Aaron Jones, Mattelis Derisaw, and others. I wouldn't mind seeing them acquire a quarterback in a trade. >> You saw it, Drew. >> Yeah, we all saw it. >> We all felt it. >> Dude, I did not expect that from the Vikings fans. I think that was. >> What? >> They're fed up. >> I genuinely didn't. I don't know what I expected. I'm going to be honest, I don't know what I expected. >> Not that bad. >> But just on the way out being like, hey you, stop lying. You, you're lying. >> Fix this. >> About what's going on here. You're saying this guy is the greatest. He's not. We've just, we've been in hell here. Hey, you just watched it. Tell people about that. It's like, damn. >> Tell them what you saw. >> I do not know that because that defense is remarkable. Okay, last question for you here. Drew, go ahead, D-Bud. >> Drew, I know you've been in a game forever. >> Congratulations, actually, happy belated birthday. Now you just turned 60 and still bring it. But take us inside. I guess like the final hour of trade deadline day. I know you're representing a client. What's actually going on? And then compare that today to like 10 years ago, deadline day. >> It's way more active, D-Bud, than it was when, you know, you and I were working together. It is the most active that I've ever seen it. I think because there are pressure on GMs to win now. They're not worried about next year's draft choices. They may not be in the general manager to see. We're looking at a guy like Jordan Davis here. And as an agent, you've got guys that maybe are welcoming a trade that are saying, Drew, please get me traded. Get this done in the next hour. And then on the flip side, you've got guys that don't want to be traded. And that are holding their breath. They've been a part of the rumors and are hoping that they stay. I'll be working the phones for our guys who want to be traded. And right now, I'm still working the phones for like Tyree Kill. And as soon as Tyreeke is healthy and is cleared medically, I'm letting teams know, hey, remember, you may not have to trade for a receiver. You could just go sign Tyreeke whenever we get that medical clearance, which we hope will be soon. And at the end of the day, I think Tyreeke is close. As we're looking at him right now, I think he's going to make a great comeback. I do think he's close to getting cleared. He hasn't been cleared yet. But when we get that, okay, I expect him to be playing and making things happen this season. >> Okay, so you say close, is that like one or two weeks, four weeks? And then something else just came out, right about Tyreeke. I think there was another very serious situation that was brewing in his life that I did not know. He just kind of popped up out of nowhere, I believe he was in court. I believe he was in court. There was a lot going on. Do the NFL teams know about that? Did you know that was like, how do we view about that particular situation off the field? Verse Tyreeke getting cleared medically, what you say is in the next few weeks? Is that a good guesstimation? >> Yeah, it is bad. I do think it's within the next few weeks. And I've never pressured Tyreeke because it's a tough injury that he had. And look, we're still waiting for guys like Michael Parsons to come back. And to put things in comparison, Tyreeke, he had a tough injury and he's still on course. But it is going to be a few weeks. As far as the civil case, it was relating to a divorce case. And his soon to be at his wife, the league is aware of it, the teams are aware of it. And we're optimistic that hopefully that's not going to impact his future in the NFL. >> Okay, well Tyreeke, when he's on the football field, he is one of the greatest players we've ever seen. So if he gets back healthy on the field and off the field, let's go boys. Let's be assets to society as we're on the field, making the world come together in a way that athleticism and perfection can do that nobody else has in the world. We appreciate the hell out of you Drew, thank you for joining us in Good Lock the Rest of the day. >> Thanks Pat, talk to you again next time. >> Please have his Drew Rosenha. Way to go Drew, yeah, the Tyreeke thing popped out knowing my Tyreeke's in court right now. And then I'm reading what Tyreeke's saying to me. Does anyone know about this? And he hasn't been cleared medically, I thought he, I didn't know that we were waiting on a clear bite because I've seen him run it. >> He was running his back, right? >> Yeah, he was back. >> Yeah, some Mark Ponds. >> Feelings from Mark Ponds. >> Who said that? >> Drew did last time he was on. >> What was he talking about then? >> A lot about LSU and kind of what's going on down there in Baton Rouge. >> Can you say LSU now without saying? >> No, no, none of us can. >> No, LSU. >> There it is, I mean it is. >> It's infectious. >> And remember that was when Drew was talking about Cleveland Brand. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Going down to LSU. He's the best. Drew, we love you, buddy. - Have a go, Andrew. - Yeah, Andrew. - Bruce Mendoza, even amount of money in deals that he's been a part of. - Just like billions and billions. - 10 billion plus. - And billions. - So it's a raise. - Billions and dollars. - Yeah. - I had a chance to watch him work, experience him. He was with Grunk's brother. (blows raspberry) - Chris? - Ooh, yeah. - Yes, Chris, who was incredible teammate. Very jacked, full-backed, great special teamer. But he had the relationship of Rose and House, got a chance to meet Rose and House. And just learn about him and his operation and his people. Did he rep you for a little bit of your reaction though? - Yeah, he rep me coming out. And for most of my career, I think eight years of my career, but he had a ton of clients. But if you hit him at one o'clock, he's hit you back at 102 at the latest. And that was kind of before he had, you know, had a family of kids and a wife and stuff like that. But I'm sure he still works it out. - Ladies and gentlemen, it is Trade Deadline Day. And we are waiting for the trade parade to continue. Feels like we were sold. - Yeah. - A false bill of goods. - And here we go. - Oh, you sound surprised. - Bam booze, wait. Hood, wait. - You got something? - No, but Foxy maybe sent in a tweet this morning from Pagnetti, the majority, the highest percentage of the deals get done. It was like more than double everything else. Get done between three and four p.m. - We're not on. - I know. - But I was playing on this show being bad at it. - There it is. - No, no, no, no. - Trade Deadline. - Obviously, let's, you know, let's, let's not get our dobers down and go, I don't know, oh and eight for the rest of the show. - It's always friggin' happened. (laughs) - Was, I hate this day, 'cause of that. - Oh, cool shit happened already. Oh, cool stuff happened. It's not a kind of happened. - Like what? - Like Jordan Davis, no, no, no, no, just Bades. - No, no, no, no. - There's one more big domino that's gonna fall today. A big one. - A big one. - A big one. - Is that a gum? - That's at Gaba, a Bubba Gumpy nose that it's coming. I, I do appreciate that at a gum. - If it's not Jonathan Taylor, this whole thing's a huge waste of time. - Okay, we're gonna need a one, at least one. - The Vikings are getting just a herb. - Okay, so. - That'd be awesome. - Big news, you guys are acting like big things haven't happened today. - Hey, best effort. Okay, best effort. - Okay, I've seen this over. - What? - Damn season's over here. - They're five and four. - Who is on IR? - I don't like what happened to Puka at all. I don't like what that does to their offense, Devonte also. - If they ran that play. - Miles Garap being back and then now Puka. That's part of Puka's play. But, you know, him coming back, that is a bummer. But maybe Matthew Stafford is think, 'cause did you see what was tweeted? - No. - Shefter said, per Ian Rappeport and me, Minnesota Vikings have begun making calls for a quarterback. - Ho! - Just shit. - Developing the Vikings have begun making calls around the league about trading for a quarterback ahead of today's four PM deadline. Per Shefty and Rappeport. - What time she told us? In a third quarter or less. - Yeah, nice tweet, Shefty. - Boom, that's senior engineer coming to go. - Yeah, that is. - Boom. - Senior engineer. - That's right. - For a terrible tweet. Who cares? We know. Da. Yeah, I could have tweeted that and it would have the same effect. Can we just report a trade, damn it? (laughing) I don't wanna do this song and dance again. It's not there for us, the GMs. They need a good time. - Might be the GMs, might be the players, might be the coach, state of the NFL. Could be owners as well. Not wanting to give more money to somebody from outside the organization. It hasn't really done anything, but you're gonna have to owe this amount of money as soon as this person gets here because we're signed for a massive deal. That's like Jeffery Seven's going to Chicago. They pick up what, 35 million a year with him. And I, I assume there's some other conversation. Any owner, you know, this is a brand new contract we got coming in here after the first game. - Yep, pay him more. - Let's do that. - Whatever. - Let's go ahead and give him a new deal. There's a lot of those situations that Brew as well, Packers know that. - Yeah, and I guess you could see with like the Vikings, like Nolan Teasley might have to sit KOC down and be like, stop fucking lying to me. And tell me which one of these guys can actually be good in the system, okay? You're not good with every fucking guy. So don't tell me that you can take any of these guys and we'll start winning. I need you to fucking smack yourself in the face. Ring that fucking brainier is really hard. And tell me which one of these guys you can win with. I don't want to hear that you can do it with anybody. I don't want to fucking hear it. - They might have had that real conversation. I like how upset you are. He's personally offended from having to watch that last night. We only get a certain amount of food passes. Pro football talks Mike Florio says, from a source in a know, Vikings gonna get a QB now. Question of who, Daniel Jones, Gino Smith. - Mack Bouls. - Kirk Cousins, TBD surprise, TBD huge surprise. But it will be something. Mike Florio says, hold your horses, Dashman. There's still something big coming on the straight deadline day. - I hope it's Dan Jones. - Hour two on the other side. Well, something happened. We shall see. Be a friend to our friends. I'm nice to my change your life. We'll see you, Nilsa. (futuristic music) - Football. - Here's the greatest. We had a chance to be boots on the ground from Monday Night Football last night. Is the Buffalo Bills get another win over the Minnesota Vikings. We're now in the quarterback market because of how horrendous the offensive performance was by Carson Wentz in the lads for the Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings defense. Some people describing his generational. Potentially championship winning. But if the offense can't get it figured out, nobody's ever gonna remember them at all. - Yep, now there's a lot of older lads on that defense. Their time is now to win. Normally, we'd talk about a quarterback's window be it open. Normally, we'd talk about an offense's window being open. For this particular case, Minnesota Vikings, everybody on earth that watches them play says, this defense has a championship window that you need to figure out. Are they doing that right now behind the scenes, find a new quarterback? Yes, is what we're being told. Who would that be? We shall find out in about two hours and 50 minutes from now is the trade deadline hits at 4 p.m. Buffalo Bills. There are probably hunters as well. Brain and beam will call around to everybody about everything. He knows his team can potentially go on to win an entire Super Bowl. Massive one in Monday Night Football for Josh Allen. Spencer Brown of the offensive line joining us earlier. James Cook goes for over a hundred yards with 30 plus rushes. An absolutely dominant performance by this Buffalo Bills team that leaves the other side thinking to themselves, we need to reset everything on the offensive side. And our head coach is an offensive head coach. And I didn't know it was like that over there. Talks to tables here at Boston Conor, at Thai Schmidt. Thai con man has been seemingly taken out some personal grudges into this microphone. Not only of him, but a lot of people in the US bang stadium last night is what it's felt like all morning. Yeah, no, not about it. I mean, Thai wasn't the one that was telling us, hey, it's all smoke and mirrors when it comes to the Minnesota Vikings. That wasn't Thai's words. That is what a Vikings fan said to us. So it was hard to kind of get that out of your mind. I still have faith in KOC a little bit more than maybe some other people do, especially the fans of the actual team. But they do have to figure it out because it is becoming a, hey, we've been told over the last few years with the Pastronaut and with all these other quarterbacks, you know, coming in, they won nine games last year with Jay Jim McCarthy and a bunch of other quarterbacks here. But now here we are once again, where Carson Wentz is working. Kyler Murray, I think we all thought was going to work out at least a little better than it did. It looked awful and it seemingly was one of those things. We're like, hey, Kyler Murray has led a team to the playoffs. Has actually been 11 to know with the Arizona Cardinals with another kind of offensive guru and Cliff Kingsbury. So you would assume KOC and Justin Jefferson and all these guys could do it too. And that not working out was kind of been very damning to me. But we'll see. You bring in Mac Jones. I think they go all the way to the NSC title. Mac Jones, you've been pounding the drum for a while now with the San Francisco 49ers let him out of the building. He's seemingly a big vibes guy for them. Huge. He's walking out early. Yeah, he's one of the first guys alongside Debo and them. Carry in the boom box, walking out. It's got the gritty, so he would fit right in with the Vikings. That's true. It's kind of one of those characters. He's got the gritty Mac. He does the gritty. That's like a second. Yeah, yeah, that's a good second. But Max got the gritty and the Vikings fans. They got a cool gritty cam. What what are you looking at? Well, nobody got to see your little footsie's doing what they were doing. Well, it's part of the dance, man. Right there. Little Tozies, that's the problem. Man, he'd be, be, be the lady up there in Minnesota. Don't be superlitty in Minnesota. I think he's superlitty in San Francisco. I think they like him a lot going to take a lot to get him out of their superbods on favorit San Francisco 49ers. I'm just going to let him walk out of the building. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys, AP tone is here. Last night favorites cover yet again. Huge weekend for the people who we thought were going to be better than the other team. Yeah. 14 and one for the entire week on favorit. It's just winning the game. The only one that didn't win was the Patriots and the Packers were actually the, you know, getting the majority of the bets on that one. So that public had a great, sorry, it's just that's just things that happened. And then they also, yeah, they covered 11, 3 and one against the spread. Or if you want to give the Colts, you know, a hypothetical win on the weekend, 11 and four, where the favorites against the spread in that situation. So a huge one for the public, a huge one for us making money and not for the books. A bad weekend for the books, but I mean, they're fine. Yeah, bad weekend for the books go weekend for us. And if you are of age, coast to coast, we love for you to come join us on draft kings, but you have to agree to do it responsibly. We don't need you to be an asshole to ruin it for all of us. Please do not do that. Nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Wasn't experience being in that end zone last night getting a chance to call that game. Absolutely. Buffalo bills might go on to win it all. We've seen him twice now on Monday night football against the Rams now against the Vikings, Josh Allen, special talent, all of bills much better than I expected. Absolutely. The only question marks you come out with the Buffalo low bills is production from the wide receiver room, and then is the defense going to continue to get better. Obviously, it looked great last night against Carson Winston in the Minnesota Vikings. But can they play against the top no tear in the AFC, you're talking about the bangles, you're talking about the jaguars and these other teams down in the stretch, will they be able to hold serve? And obviously, you have the answer at quarterback, and you know, you have it at running back as well. Joe Brady has shown that he's a good young head coach that can just win in different type of ways. I'm excited to see where this year's, this version of the Buffalo bills, how they end up the season. Because we talked about a Spencer, obviously, it's one of no week to week for them. But for us talking to the microphones, you have MVP quarterback, the Super Bowl windows open. So what are you going to do with that? Trub and Russo are all over the place. No, I think I completely forgot that they were a tandem. I think I forgot about that before last night getting to watch it. Shout out to the bill was having a phenomenal performance, getting another win, dominating win in Minnesota. So much so that they're trying to trade for anybody that they can get. Joining us now is a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. The all-time leading tackle for the Green Bay Packers, ladies and gentlemen, AJ. Laka, a lot of people pissed off that the Minnesota Vikings defense is getting wasted. And I think after watching them last night, they're everywhere. And they are just as violent as anybody that we have seen on the defense side. Offensively, a lot to be desired, and then Buffalo bills get a huge win. You're take away from last night, AJ. Well, first off, I thought you guys did a great job. Obviously, the go Carson Wentz narrative throughout the whole game was pretty amazing. I love to hear Digg say he saw him in warm-ups, kind of hot-dogging around doing the free spin moves in his first ball the night on the field. I just love his mindset, I guess. You've always talked about the Carson Wentz experience. We got to experience that as viewers last night. It was fun to see, but I think this Buffalo Bill's team is for real. I think their defense is continuing to improve, I understand. You guys just say, "Hey, play Carson Wentz," but I still think they're getting better. This was a hell of a play right here, questionable ball, and I guess questionable placement on that ball. But great play. I feel bad too, Carson's foot got stepped and I couldn't have had a third pick. Yeah, the foot, that was really tough. I'm going to be honest, because in real time, it was hard not to say, "Wow." And I did say, actually, this guy sucks. I can't take it, because it was directly in the chest of a buff nervous, directly in the chest of a Buffalo Bill's lineback, and there's no Vikings around. And then we find out, he got his foot stepped on by a 6-4-3-30 guy, and it's like, "Okay, that is a difficulty." If this was the only throw of the night that was like this, I think I would have given him a pass quicker. Everybody would have given him a pass quicker, but that, when you don't know that he's getting his foot completely mangled by a 300 plus pounder, that looks like one of the worst throws in the history of the NFL. That actually looks like that as he puts it right on a guy. I mean, just right on a linebacker's chest. Look now, a lot open to guys coming on the numbers in the 30 right now. Yeah. Well, also, Addison, I've ever talked. I mean, it feels like the play design was right, and it feels like the time it was called was good. He doesn't get stepped on. That's probably touched down. We're talking differently about Carson Wentz. Sure. He gets stepped on, though. He puts it right in the middle of the eight on a Buffalo Bill's defender, whenever there was a bunch of people open everywhere else. So that was when I got disgusted live on air, and then once I saw him getting stepped on, I was like, OK, oh, I would like to take that back, which I would, because there's a lot of criticism for Carson Wentz, so we can only do it whenever it's fair. He was horrendous. And I think he knows that. I think he probably feels if he might have the yips, like when he misses two guys, easy throws, in his head, he's probably thinking like, Mike, what's going on here? You know the hell? And then Kevin O'Connor was like, don't worry, I'm giving you like 16 more, bro, right down the pipe. It's coming. And then as he's missing layups, there's no way he's liking that. Like he has to know in real time that it's not going well, right, Debak? We would assume. Yeah. From the first throw, we saw the teacher. You know, when it be wide open through it, you know, four feet over his head. And we saw the where he tried, hey, because in the huddle, OK, I'll see you looking at the play car. All right. Let me give him something easy. Let me give him a quick, easy completion. All right. Quick screen, bubble screen, adjusted Jefferson. Nope. Let me put it. Throw it back. That'll be a ladder. That'll be a fumble. So, yeah, it was tough. I don't know what the hell Carson was thinking. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be completely out. So, Carson has to just voice back to K.O.C. like, hey, stop. You think he's taking himself out? Stop, man. Let me hand it off. I don't know why we're doing all this. You just called another pass play. I can't do this, man. Enough is enough. Stop. The people are going to hate me here. I like living in Minnesota. What if Carson told K.O.C. we went too far? Yeah. Call. OK. I've been with me for my whole life. Now we're talking. I've been with me for a long time. Either call, flee, flicker. How about Orlovsky, AJ? Cover two here should definitely be Iran especially with the recent success. It's not. It's a throw. It's an error. I mean, it was just a comedy of airs last night on the offensive side. They are very much still in it though. The Vikings, with that defense, if they can find an offense, whoever is to blame for that, they can still be in the dance down the stretch. The NFC has a lot of great teams. The Vikings defense is certainly elite. Do they get to figure it out on this Trade Deadline Day? Well, we shall see. It's not just Trade Deadline Day. - Right, huge news, as the second CFP ranking is unveiled on ESPN. Joining us now, incredibly lucky for this conversation, we are very appreciative. Retired three-star general from the Air Force. She's Yeah Dude flew B1 bombers That's the RUFL right that's what that's what are you a 41 over 400 combat hours? 400 combat hours he's now the executive director director of the CFP and I believe the CFP committee Ladies and gentlemen. It is an honor Lieutenant General Rich Clark What's going on fellas? Good to see you guys before we get to the CFP and we have hard-hitting questions Okay, I'm putting your fucking feet to the fire today Rich. Okay. I'm doing it today. It's coming. It's all right Let's do this. Hey B1 bombers autopilot. You're not doing so can you just tell me a little bit about that you for what is it? How many I've just researched it for 42 plus 100 hours and then 400 combat hours Okay, so I'm in a 1986. We need to that needs to be known that that is the person that is currently the executive Director of the CFP we are very thankful that you are in college football world But let's talk about your military experience. You are finally getting it. How did you sign up for that? Is that immediately at a high school? And thank you for your service, sir No, I appreciate that. I went to the Air Force Academy actually played football there and graduated back in 1986 so Yeah, I was a long time ago 40 years or something But anyway went from there to pilot training and was fortunate enough to fly airplanes for most of my career and it was awesome I loved it, but you know, it was a great career and honestly Blessed by the whole thing, but even more blessed to be able to retire and then come work for the CFP I couldn't ask for better. It's been great awesome awesome life. Well, we're thankful for your service And we're also thankful that you are in the college football world in the position that you are in Let's talk about tonight and what we should expect or how we can expect these to come to be These new rankings last week chaos happens on Saturday There might be a little bit more openness to 24 team playoff as these rankings continue to come out you guys yesterday announced Another deal with ESPN to be the exclusive CFP partner for a 24 team playoff Massive deal for you in the CFP to get done and obviously ESPN To add another 1.7 billion to the deal that they had for the 12 team playoff as well I assume they had exclusive negotiating rights if you were to open it up to 24 teams or whatever the case is Can you tell me about getting to this and do you think public sentiment will continue to change as we battle over who the top 12 are Because this feels like the most parody riddled year that we've had thus far if that makes sense rich Yeah, it makes a lot of sense and it was a long journey to be honest with you We we've been talking about this with the management committee The management committee though. Let me just to be be clear on that That's the 10 FBS commissioners and the Notre Dame athletic director So they're the ones that really make the decisions here and we've been talking about for about a year and a half and Just trying to work through all the different Elements of of an expanded playoff because we all really liked 12. I mean, it was great But could we get better? Could we make it evolve and help it to evolve with the college football landscape and I think we're landed in a pretty good place So some people I know there's some sentiment against it from a lot of fans actually But I will tell you with the parody like you mentioned coming into college football The one thing we have to do that we need to make sure that we do it this playoff is to crown the true champion And and I think an expanded playoff really helps us to get there I mean, we're gonna have a lot more opportunity for teams to get in You'll see teams that may not have been in before you'll have fan bases that haven't been Engaged as much before you'll have student athletes who are getting into this coaches who want to see the expansion I think it's gonna be great for college football in general and what I do know is more the decision will be decided on the field Instead of in a committee room nothing against the committee because I love them They do great work we have great people on this committee, but you're gonna decide more of it on the field now And I think that's a good thing. Okay, so all the commissioners and and Pete Bavocco athletic director for Notre Dame come together and make this decision over a year and a half. And you talk about, we're definitely gonna have a wider net, so we make sure that the champion is certainly in there. You knew that public sentiment was gonna be a little bit negative, potentially the drawback. I think the big worry from a lot of the OG college football fans, is first of all, radical change is never really something that doesn't meet turbulence, you know. I think we experienced that on a regular basis, and I think you would understand that. So that radical change is definitely gonna have some blowback to begin with, but I think they're worried about the college football regular season, not being the college football regular season anymore. As a former player and as a man that's been around this world now as much as you have, talking to the commissioners, talking to coaches, hearing everybody's worries. What are your thoughts as the executive director of CFP that the regular season now might not be what college football's regular season has always been, which is every week matters. Is that something that comes up in discussions? And how did you guys corral this, calm those? >> Yeah, 100%, and the one thing that I gotta make clear is that we're here for the regular season. The regular season is prime, and a playoff is just a cap off to what you hope is an incredible, amazing regular season. So some of the things that we know, first, it's gonna give some freedom to the coaches and their scheduling to the athletic director so that they can schedule these marquee games now and not be worried that a loss to a great team isn't gonna knock them out of the playoff. We also are putting in a scheduling policy so that the A4 teams, the G6 teams have some structure to their scheduling that at least we at the CFP are gonna assess. Now they can schedule how they want. Scheduling is always, always up to the institution. It's up to the coaches, up to the AADs. But what we're gonna look at are particular games and we're gonna hold a standard to the people that we're assessing. So I think there's a lot of things that are gonna be good for the regular season and the thing I'm most excited about really is more of those big matchups, those big games that you see in the year. And when people say that they won't matter, there's sort of different tiers in this playoff that are gonna make a difference. So I mean, the first tier I would say is do you get a buy? That's a big deal, I think. The next tier is do you get a home game? The first round and the second round are gonna be played on campus, which is huge. The fans love those campus games and now right now in the 12 team format, we got four of those. We're gonna have 16 on campus games in the playoff. And those games are magic, I love 'em. And then there's teams that before never even imagined they would have a shot to be in a CFP playoff. Now you're gonna have that. You're gonna have top 25 matchups for a month and it's gonna be awesome. So the regular season is gonna really build that for us and I think it's gonna matter just as much, but to be honest, the proof is in the pudding. And we at the CFP owe it to the fans, we owe it to the athletes and the coaches to make it spectacular and that's our commitment. We're gonna make it great. - I appreciate you guys making decisions that aren't necessarily loved by everybody and the proof is in the pudding. I think every time these rankings come out, there is another school or fan base that is like, you know what, I guess we had a couple more spots. It wouldn't be bad. Scared to death to dilute it all. Last question for me, before all the boys have some questions for you, Lieutenant General, we appreciate you joining us. Tonight, whenever we watch the CFP rankings release and then restocks the 100 year check. Two questions, shouldn't you be the one speaking there instead of somebody that has a vote? I don't know if you've heard us talk about this. 100 year check, Arkansas Athletic Director. He's put in an interesting position there coming out of that CFP committee because he has voted on things that he likes and then there's things that he doesn't like probably that get by and then he is the one that is out speaking about those things that he probably doesn't even believe in. How was the decision made that somebody who has a vote is the voice immediately afterwards as opposed to, Rich, I'm gonna let you know, Lieutenant General, you should be the one speaking for the CFP whenever it's speaking, especially if you're in the room 'cause then you could even give like, there was a huge debate over this in the room and this happened and this happened as opposed to it. How does that decision get made for a voter to be the one that comes out and speaks about it? And then follow up that you can hit football judgment. How much is that this year versus years past? I'll let you get from there, Lieutenant. Okay, thank you. So first of all, who speaks for the group? It's been the tradition of the CFP sentence andception that a member of the group that chairman speaks for the group and that way you have somebody that's actually representing the group as a whole that's talking to the public about what happened. So you know, someone that actually has a vote, which I don't, someone that is representative of the group which I'm not necessarily speaking on behalf of all of them. So I know there's a lot of different ways to look at this and some people would say having someone that's neutral that didn't vote might be a better way to do it 'cause then you can, like you said, you can say, well here's what they talked about, here's what they did, here's what they decided as opposed to here's what we did, here's what we decided. There's two ways to look at that and we've opted towards the, it's about we and us and what we did and that's Hunter's role to be able to say that and to be one of the people that actually made that decision. So that's the way we look at it now. Who knows, that could change in the future? I don't know, but right now, that's the direction we're in. >> Okay, Rachona, let me stop you there before we get into football judgment. >> Okay, all right. >> Before we get into football judgment, I wanna let you know that is a tough position to be in. I was thinking about Hunter during that interview with Reese because we're daily talk show. We're in the college football world. We're obviously very lucky to be a part of college game day during the weekend. So like everything that we hear or everything we learn about or see is a huge piece of the entire story, especially when we're talking about who's gonna become champion, let alone expansion and conference realignment and all that type of stuff. But when Hunter Eurocheck comes and speaks, it's like we get a glimpse inside the room and the people that are making the decision. And I think he doesn't want to put himself in the jackpot for later like two or three weeks from now to contradict himself potentially. So it's a tough spot to be for Hunter. Just let him know, please let him know that we understand it's a tough spot. But we need to give us some answers, too. We need to, we need some answers. >> Right, right. >> We need some answers. >> So let me follow up on that. Hunter is awesome. Let me just give him some props because first of all, he stepped in last year midstream because we had to make a change about halfway through the season. And Hunter came in cold turkey and just crushed it in my opinion. >> Agreed. >> I think a lot of people's opinion. And he runs the room so well. I mean, he's a great leader, he's collaborative. He gets people talking, pulls them into the conversation. Just fantastic. And then he gets up and like you said, it's a tough job. I mean, talking about those decisions because they are hard, hard decisions and they're only getting harder. But he does a fantastic job talking about everything and representing the discussions in that room. And he and recently have about three minutes, but I will tell you Hunter, he could go on for 20 minutes. Because due to smart, he knows football, he knows the room. And he's leading that discussion. So I give my hat off. I have huge respect for him as a leader, but also in this role that he's in right now. >> Yeah, listen to this guy. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Listen to this three star general who's leading the way talking about one of his men. >> You can just displayed phenomenal leadership. I would like to let you know that like, whatever they ask, how I feel about Hunter, just know that this is all, how I feel about this guy. The way he leads the room, the way he runs conversation, way he represents all of us. You're a huge fan of him, I respect that. I also view, okay, it's a we thing as opposed to day thing. I like the mindset. Excited to see how that continues to grow. Reece Davis and Hunter Eurotech's conversation is huge for us as we go forward. One thing he said last week was the football guys in the room. Randall McDaniel, Wesley Walls, Coach Tantoneo, Gus Mouson. They said that Ohio State's defense against USC up front. And then also in the back end, they thought it wasn't that good. Like freshman quarterback certainly a problem, but the defense up front was problematic. This year, football judgment going to be used more, you think is that a new thing? And when it comes to that, what do those discussions sound like? Is it as easy as Mark Tantoneo, who's an old school football guy saying like we got to win in the trenches? And then Randall McDaniel being like, of course, that's what this matters because the biggest mismatches we think that happen in some of these are the trenches look like a JV team and a varsity team. And it's like, this is easy, what's going to happen? How much football judgment this year? And how is that expanded or evolved versus maybe previous committees, Rich? Yeah, so I would say this, this is my third group being a part of, and they've all been great, but there is a level of football IQ in this room that is really spectacular, and it couldn't have come at a better time because of the parity that we're seeing in football. And so like you said, they're not in their fighting, we haven't come to blows or anything like that or anything even close. But what they do is they challenge each other and someone will say, this is what they saw in the film and they all look at it a little bit differently even the coaches, but one thing that they do is they listen to each other. And so They look at film, they look at the stats, and then they talk about it. And when you have those coaches in the room, those guys devour some tape. I mean, they are looking at film from the minute we walk out. They look at games that other people don't even know are being played, because they want to take it all in and make connections that they can bring into that room when it comes time to do this ranking. And so they're looking at the trenches. They're looking at how quarterback play is really important to them. And then they're really putting it out on the table. And one of the things that I think is most, I think, impressive about this group is that they're able to put it into context, because it's not always just about the wins and the losses. It's about how did they win? How did that lose go? What kind of matchups did you have throughout the field? And then how did the coaches perform in that game and those kinds of decisions. And they bring it all in and they put it out there. But the most important thing is that they listen, because they all look at it just a little bit differently. They all bring something different to the table and they listen to each other. And then they incorporate that into how they're going to vote and how they're going to decide on these rankings. And that's the most important thing. When you have people that are so skilled and so capable, but they're humble enough to listen and hear each other so that they can make a good decision. Because they know how important this is. And they put the time in the effort in. And that's one thing that I'll say too. They put the work in. They watch a lot of film. They look at a lot of data. And they think through this stuff before they walk into that room. Because they know that everyone's counting on them. They count on each other. And the country is counting on them to get it right when they do these rankings. Yes, we certainly are. And when they put that hat on that rack, we need them to go in there and represent for the ball. Yeah, we definitely need that. What a social experiment you guys are running in there. What an interesting social experiment that you'll never get it right. You'll never be able to get it right in everybody's eyes. You're definitely going to be wrong in what? 30% of the people's eyes that are just out there in the fanbase. And at least 30% by the end of this entire thing. So difficult to say. I'd be happy with that. Yeah, I'd be happy with 30%. That'd be cool. Let's get that. Now, you got to remember what you hear in what's real vastly different. You know, especially in the college football world. Because some of these fan bases, I mean, the majority of the good ones that are in this conversation, their fan bases are awesome. It's what makes college football as great it is. And that passion that these generations and generations and generations of fans that pass down from one to the next. It can turn a little bit mean too, especially if you're saying, you guys don't get to be in the college football playoff. Your team ain't worth a damn. And there's also massive financial things that happen whenever you don't make it to college football playoff. So you can certainly piss some people off. So I like that they're putting in work. I like that they're willing to do it. And I appreciate your leadership style. Now, the boys have some questions about what's going on in there. AJ will go first. Yeah, Lieutenant General, you mentioned quarterback play. Like the committee will take that into account. I guess as far as injuries, how do they look at that like from a key position? Not only quarterbacks, but obviously you lose an edge rush or you lose a left tackle or something. Is that something the committee takes into account? I guess how much weight does that have? Yeah, it carries a lot of weight, AJ. And just for the record, you guys could call me Rich. I'm retired. I appreciate the respect you're given. I really do. Everybody calls me Rich though. And I like it. It makes me feel like I'm actually retired. Okay, okay, okay, you got it. So I'm not sick though, not sick. Dick is not. Well, oh man, you know what? When I was at the Air Force Academy plan, they called me Dick Clark. I think that. And yeah, my nickname was bandstand. So that was back in the old days. Legend, I don't know, I don't mess up. Dick Clark, what an iconic nickname, man. Never mind Rich. I'm an Air Force team, by the way, B-Texas. What happened? 111985 Air Force Team. B-Texas in the. Wow. Dick Clark in the boys? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Rank five, I believe in the eight people. Bandstands leading the boys out there. Oh yeah. Wow. You see a few right now. Hold on, Air Force, what year 1985? Hey, five, yeah. Oh, he's in the trenches, football. I mean, you were just, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, so it's not just Antonio and Mauson and Randall McDaniel was in Walls. Redford, boom, I like that. I didn't know that. Bandstands leading the boys to 12-1 season. Oh yeah. Okay, Rich, we gotta, we gotta take that into account whenever we're talking shit about the decisions that are being made here. Now, huge ordeal with the injuries and backup players, though, at key positions. That's a real conversation around a lot of teams, especially down the stretch here, as things get a little, I don't want to say fragile, but injuries start to happen a little bit more often. 100% and AJ, you brought up a great question, and it's not just about quarterback. I mean, it's about receiver, it's about key linemen. Randall McDaniel will always, he knows like everybody that's playing on the line. When they're coming out, when they're going in, why they're coming out and going in? And he brings those kinds of things up in the room. But really, those key injuries are important to understand not just how it, I'll say, how it impacts a team and how you rank them. But also how it impacts a team that's playing them. So, for example, you may be playing against one team and they're missing their quarterback or their quarterback. Well, here's what I'll take you to a real life example. Something that Hunter said last week. He was talking about Alabama's win over Mississippi State. And he said that when Alabama beat Mississippi State, they had their quarterback. They were at full strength. When Mississippi State lost their quarterback, they haven't been quite the same team. But Alabama beat them when they were full on. They were rolling at that time. And so that was a different team. And the room took that into consideration when they were considering that win that Alabama had over Mississippi State. So there's a lot of different ways that you can take injuries into account. But to AJ's point, it's not just the quarterback. It's not just that key receiver. It's what's the full strength of that team. And we take some input from the conferences because we also get conference reports. We talk to the conferences and we have different point people that have discussions with the conferences. And they fill us in on key injuries so that we can take those kinds of things into account in our discussions. >> We appreciate the hell out of you, Rich. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for doing what you do. Not only for CFP, but for the United States of America and your previous life. You're the man. We hope to catch up soon if that's okay. >> 100%. I appreciate it. It's an honor to be on this with you guys. This is like a dream come true. So I'm going to tape it, get a screenshot of this, frame it, put it in my house somewhere. So, but appreciate what you guys do for college football. Thank you very much for having me. >> Hey, Rich. Thank you, man. And we'll send another request in for you to join us for sure. And we'd be very grateful then just like we are now. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. >> Any day. >> The executive director of the college football playoff. Rich Clark. >> Yeah, Rich. >> Thank you, Rich. >> Hey, yeah, listen, I appreciate what you guys are doing. Call me Lieutenant General, but it's really cool just to be rich. Like walk around the office. >> I did that. >> I just say Rich, what's up? >> General Clark. >> It's all with the general Clark. >> I know it's hard. Even when I text him, I do the entire thing. He is texting me four different times, not just call me Rich. >> Stop. >> Call me Rich. >> Richie, if you want. >> It's like, all right, I do. >> Ben stand. >> Yeah, I'll definitely go Ben stand. >> You're going to go Ben stand. >> Yeah, Ben stand was leading those boys. Ladies and gentlemen, I have some news. The trade parade has walked once again through Indianapolis. >> What? Ladies and gentlemen, we have a trade being reported by Ian Rappaport. The San Francisco 49ers are adding Keenan Alley from the Indianapolis Colts. >> But it's great for him. >> Broc Perty adds a guy who can get open on third down. A man who is sure handed. A man who's career with the Indianapolis Colts certainly had some headlines, but wasn't long enough to ever be really remembered. Now he will go to the 49ers and be in Super Bowl contention immediately. Keenan, thanks for your service to Indianapolis. It was quick. >> It was swift. >> What a run. >> Nothing really good happened. >> Really dude. Ed Dodd's a nice guy man. He's sending these guys to great places. >> Well yeah, the teams that are trading for players right now are in great spots. The teams that are getting rid of players right now are in shot. So Ed Dodd's being a good guy. >> Got a big pick back though. >> What's that? >> Huge sixth rounder brother. >> Let's freaky go. >> I know it's actually higher than I thought it would be. >> What you think? I'm drafted free agent author. >> What did you? >> How much? >> I mean you guys signed him in week two. He's on a one year deal. He's probably retiring after this year. >> Well, if he was souped, what would he thought he was going to do here in Indianapolis? We brought him in to have another sure handed wide receiver. He has made plays for us this year. We haven't had a lot of plays. So I have no idea how he's playing right now. I couldn't give you a good read after watching play multiple times. He's caught the ball every time it seemingly goes to him. And I assume he'll do that for Brock Perty. We also have some news out of the trade parade. >> Oh, really? Kirk Cousins is the quarterback that the Minnesota League is usually going to want that one. Kirk Cousins Kevin O'Connor had success in the past. So much success that the Atlanta Falcons gave Kirk Cousins 180 million dollars. That was just a few months before they would draft Michael Penix as the eighth overall pick. It wouldn't work out there. He would end up as the Las Vegas Raider starting leading Fernando Mendoza, who was the number one overall pick. They have had some success, I guess, offensively, but they've lost a lot of games. Kurt Cousins now potentially heading back to Kevin O'Connell's offense in the middle of a hopeful, super bowl push without good that defenses. Now you got to get the Las Vegas Raiders off of Kurt Cousins being a backup quarterback for Fernando Mendoza, whenever Fernando Mendoza finally gets his first start as number one overall pick for the Raiders. Kurt Cousins' name has been dangled in these conversations for the Minister of Vikings for the last few weeks because of the relationship between Kurt Cousins and KOC's offense. KOC had success with Kurt a lot of it, which is what led to Kurt Cousins going to Atlanta. Your first thoughts here, AJ, as the Las Vegas Raider seemingly hold all of the leverage in this particular negotiation. Yes, the Raiders absolutely have all of the leverage and I think the Vikings got to do whatever it takes to get this thing done. As Dano was saying last night, like, reach for the, you know, call, ask about Matthew Stafford as like, you go to the top and you just keep going until you get somebody and Kurt Cousins can still sling it. We know that. So I think it would, he would sit beautifully, get the ball out of his hands quick and actually not over throw guys by four to six yards, especially early in the game. I think Kurt, this could be a great trade if they make it happen. And Kurt knows the offense so we can literally be dropped in their next game. Go ahead, Tony. Well, this is best of both worlds. He's got his body gurus there, first and foremost. Oh, yeah. The two older folks. It's great because then the Vikings, you know, they get better. And then we also get to, you know, selfishly see Fernando for the rest of the season, which is something that I assume everyone is wanting to see. And now, you know, it's two teams that for our eyes, visually, me being selfish, we get to watch and enjoy more. Fernando is this guy going to be a guy? Yep. Vikings. Wow. Look at that. They can do offense. Yeah. And we're expecting that because Kirk had success with Kevin O'Connor in the past. They have the weapons on the offense aside, Kirk cousins with his ability at this moment with his knowledge of KOC. This would be a good play for them, which is why we have talked about it for the last couple weeks. Absolutely. Kirk cousins a couple of years now removed from that Achilles. He's playing pretty good football out there in Las Vegas right now. So to get them back, and like you said, you get a quarterback at this point in season, you don't have to worry about teaching them the ins and outs of a playbook. You can get up there and have full control on the scrimmage. And thank God we can see Justin Jefferson be good at football again, Jordan Addison, T.J. Hockerson, and this defense continued to flourish because I don't care how good you are. You're not going to be good if your offense is a convert in third down. We're adding to the trade parade today on trade deadline day, but they might give him an actual parade on his way back into Minnesota. Yeah. They were trade for Kirk cousins with how they felt last night after that game. They definitely would. They would welcome him with open arms. It feels like if you're the Vikings, I'm assuming their fans would say, you know, give up a first round pick. We don't care. We just can't watch once again. The other part of it too is you wonder if the Raiders, you know, it's always been kind of floated out there since Max Crosby got traded in the offseason. Like, hey, yes, he's back with the Raiders, but, you know, he might be a name to watch at the deadline and not that they're punting on the season by any means if Kirk cousins get traded. But you wonder if teams then call the Raiders from Max Crosby and somehow you get another first from from Max. You get a what a first or a second or a third from Kirk, like they might get a good haul all of a sudden and then still get for an end. Joining us now is junior NFL insider. He does not have a lot of time because he's got big day with big tracks breaking down all of the big traits. Missed it. You said play. Yep. Oh, yeah. Fuck out of here. Say it in a little. That's some amateur shit. That is. That's a small play from. Okay. Okay. Sorry. I just had a tone A. Yeah. Small tone. Yeah. Small day. Yeah. Small day. Joining us now, junior NFL insider, you should be bummed out with what happened there. Oh, I am. Trust me. Okay. I'm happy about that. Because we all got excited as we're all realizing in real time what was about to happen on this day because it is a big day with some big traits joining us now. What will he say, junior NFL insider, Ian Rapworth? Yeah. Yeah. What's going on? We said a couple of the minutes that you didn't have because of what just happened over there. We apologize. Kirk Cousins going to be a Minnesota Vikings player in the next two hours and 11 minutes or what? It's a possibility. Yeah. I mean, they've spent most of the day calling around on a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of quarterbacks with familiarity to their system to Kevin O'Connell, obviously, you know, we talked about last night, it seems like five minutes ago, you know, Cousins and Daniel Jones were the two most likely with the Colts, and I know they just traded Ken now, but I haven't got the sense they're really willing to trade almost any of their good young players. Like, I haven't, maybe they trade Daniel Jones. I guess anything's possible. I just haven't got the sense they want to do it at all. So Cousins seems more likely, and if you're the Raiders, you know, Fernando Mendoza is ready. You can get a real draft pick for Kirk Cousins plus get out from the $10 million for next year fully guaranteed, it would make a lot of sense for the Minnesota Vikings, kind of keep them upright with a, you know, super bowl caliber defense. Yeah, and good for Kirk Cousins, he's going to get celebrated going back into that building with everything we saw last night and for this entire year. You say Daniel Jones potentially on the move, young players, though, maybe not out of Indian apolis. Jonathan Taylor, what is the lean here as a deal get done or not? Yeah, it feels really, really quiet. I mean, if you say right now, I'd say I would probably lean no, and you know, there's a lot of activity. There's a lot of discussion. I just, I just don't see it right now. You know, teams can revisit trades. You can always go back to Tara and I offered you a two in this. Now I'll offer, you know, a little bit more. I just, it feels very, very quiet to me surrounding Jonathan Taylor, kind of leading me to believe that probably he stays, which would be a surprise, but if they think he is someone who can help, you know, the next regime, whatever it is, maybe that's worth it to them. And he's under contract. So maybe this era of the Colts doesn't start the same way as the last era of the Colts with our best player pissed off for two weeks in front of a very new Indianapolis Colts regime and team and players and everything like that. If we end up with no one, with no Quentin, no, the Forest Buckner, Keenan Allen is only going to be one year situation anyways, probably. I'm okay with where we're headed, as long as we have Jonathan Taylor still in Josh Dines and Cam Bynum in the lives of Josh Dines is going to be a free agent. Got to pay him. Yeah. Here you go. Yeah, we're going to pay him. Top dollar. Well, he probably won his last year or going into his last year. No, no, he's on his last year. Anybody else? Anybody other big moves, cooking or percolating at this moment, rap sheet? I haven't sensed anything imminent. We got about two hours to go. Obviously you can't, no one can create space. So anyone you're trading for now is going to be somewhere with a low base salary or a team with a bunch of cap space. There's a couple teams who've called around. There's a lot of teams who've called around 49ers, room one, at the Broncos, you've got the bills, you've got the Vikings obviously, plenty of teams who've called right, you just don't know is any big trade going to get right over the hump and thank God two hours will know. It feels like it's always this type of day. We get super excited and then it ends up happening and we've had some good trades over the last three weeks. It just hasn't been in one day. Yeah, we're talking about today. We're talking about trade, we're talking about the trade parade right now. We're talking about right now, but we know right now you've got to go get prepared for a big day with big trades breaking down all of the big trades. That's Ian rapboard. Thank you, man. Yeah, rap sheet. And he rushed to four-step Kirk budget trade. We usually have, you know, commissions coming to say, no, you can't do that. He was in the building, so he saw what it looked like last night. Two ones. He felt it. It's done for the good. Now what's the take to get him? I don't know. He said good traffic. There are 10 million bucks for next year. Two? Maybe a second under in like something next year. Yeah, maybe a two and a four or something like that, a two and a three. There's no way they get up a one for no doubt they should ask for, I mean, like the, they have all the leverage. Yep. Let's say three is six. You're going to say a third to a six for a turn. Three in a five. A three in a five. I like that one. For a starting quarterback over there. Yeah. Sack around pick. You're picking up next year's deal too. Just one. I think, and we've talked about this ad nausea once again, so we're repeating our selves. We apologize if you've listened for a while. We I more specifically always overshoot what we're given. Same. Good players. Always. Cause I think in AJ, I don't want to speak for you, but we've said this before, I've seen so many draft picks. They're supposed to be good. Hey, this is two twos. What if those two twos are both poo poo, you know, which is definitely possible. You look at the stats and analytics. There's a lot more bus than there are players that go on and make it. So if you're getting an actual player that is good at football and good in the NFL, I think I as somebody special teams, guys, more, more specifically here would definitely prefer somebody that's good as opposed to somebody that potentially is good, even though the odds tell us only 28% of the time this person's going to be actually good. So I think I always overdo what I'm expecting for somebody, but you can get really good players for seemingly not a lot. And that's just speaking strictly from an Indianapolis coach, fan who watched the forest Buckner and Quentin Nelson walk out the door for a smaller package than just Jeffrey Simmons. Once again, incredible football player, one for two ones in a four. That's what I would expect a Jeffrey Simmons to go for from what he's doing. He's done for their team and what's happening to the Tennessee Titans with his absence time. Yeah, I mean, it's literally different in every situation. It kind of seems like certain teams are willing to just, hey, like the Bears, they want to Jeffery Simmons no matter what. So it's like, hey, we'll do whatever we got to do to get him. And if that takes two ones and a four, then sounds good. Whereas, yeah, like Quentin Nelson, we talked about that. It's like you wouldn't think that three and a fifth would be all it takes to get a perennial, all pro, pro bowl, hall of fame type guy. But like it literally is, it's different in every situation. And some teams are just willing to do more than others. And when somebody wants to go back home, true, the forest boxers only were the fourth. Jeffery Simmons, two ones and a four. And whenever I say Jeffery Simmons was two ones and a four, I got a lot of people saying you think the, the forest boxers were two ones and a four at this stage is like, maybe a three, just a third rounder, maybe a second or a shit, maybe one second rounder. If the same position, similar stats, older, coming off an injury, two ones and a four forgot. Jeffery Simmons game record. We are huge fans of him. The forest buckner also that for the Indianapolis Colts, whenever he is played here, just a fourth round pick. That's because that's where he wanted to go. His family told allegedly, you know, this is where we want to go. We want to go back to San Francisco. It's like, John Lynch knows that too, whenever he's like, ah, fourth rounder, that's what we got. Dawson, nice guy. Well, and that's what factors in so much more too is just contracting age. Like the Bears know they don't have to negotiate with Jeffery Simmons at all. He's been paid top dollar. This guy's going to be here no matter what. Like that's the biggest thing that feels like with Quentin Nelson. Like Quentin Nelson absolutely is worth a first round pick, but John Schneider knows on the other side of it. Like, hey, I got to pay this guy and I don't know if he actually will come up to Seattle and enjoy that. Quentin Nelson, H.M. Plus that demon told him a lemon. So I saw that week. I saw that tweet about Carly Ursay. I think Quentin Nelson passed to the physical, right? I mean, he's just saying, all right. It's going to happen out there. Once why are you going to get injured? He'll be back. Quentin Nelson's a dog in absolute beast, but trade deadline day has been a bit of a dud here, hasn't it? Yeah. Hey, run that trade parade graphic one more time, because we thought this is going to be like, you know, something where you're, hey, that's good graphic. I guess how many of these actually happened on trade deadline, though. That's a good question to that. I remember like far as it was in the offseason. It's got for twice. Yeah. Michael. Yeah, Michael. I was just happy. I thought Randy was. Randy. Randy was in season. Can I put a tweet out about it, everybody? Russell's offseason with Tariq's all season in the Patriots. Yeah. That was for a fourth, right? Yeah. I was fine, but I put a tweet out about that and I got summoned. It broke right now. It's not me talking about any deals, right? Is Rapshee just going to be on his phone the whole time? Shitty is, house just stands for it. Looking at his camera, I assume, from big dough, big shrugs where they're trying to go for what he's about to do. And he's staying here, and there was a little bit of - Kiggy's scoop. - Let's go. - Can't get scooped. - That thought's being best friends of Palacera has certainly thrown quite a wrench until all of the trade talks out of Indianapolis. I think that's been a fascinating little development. That's what it's about. - I know, I saw it. - Partly's gotta be making decisions, right? Like why would parley, wouldn't she be doing it? - Like why is she letting somebody who's definitely not gonna be in the building and was a part of every decision that brought us to this exact moment in time that we're in, why is she letting him do anything? - Yeah, if she's letting him make these trades, I don't think she's keeping them around. - Yeah, I mean, that's a really good question, 'cause I presented that day one of him being promoted because literally ballered in thoughts and been presented as like a duo. To me, multiple times, here's this guy, thoughts. He's got his guy, thoughts. He's got his guy, like that is how it was talked about since the beginning, he's like his guy, thoughts. So you fire, thoughts is guy. If you say his guy, it's probably his guy as well. and then you're just expecting him to act completely in good faith for the Indianapolis Colts going forward. And he was a part of all the decisions that you are reversing right now. So you're not gonna have any personal feelings about any of them. - I mean, yeah, but he's a professional. He wants to put his best foot forward. For now, it's just like a player. It could be whatever, but when I go out there and play, like I want to put on for the other 31 teams, There's so many jobs, opportunities, and then for Carlton in her position, you got to start to rebuild because Quentin, he's going to be an expiring contract, Downs, the Force, so you have to have somebody making those decisions. Yeah, I would rather not be somebody that's associated with the downfall of this place, but hey, what are your options? We got a fourth for DeForest Buckner, that is just, who? I'll just never be able to get over that. You don't have much leverage. They didn't have a whole lot of leverage, I guess. Kind of comes back to Old Samovian Ballard. Oh boy. His name's Chris. No, I know. I would never call him that, but that's what he is typically referred to as on the interwebs. And you talk about expiring contracts? They didn't have to be expiring contracts. Quentin knows someone to deal. It would be weird if Downs doesn't get dealt being he is an expiring contract and everyone else has. And he has requested a trade. Give me a way to accept that too. Anything picks. Someone throws you. Get something good for Downs. Well, that's the thing. I think I fear that's how everybody is viewing the Colts. You can just give him anything. He's funny. Tell him we can't give a fifth rounder. And then whenever we offer a sixth for Canaan Allen, they're going to be like, "Yeah! We got him!" And then it's out the door, Canaan Allen. See you later. I have no idea if Canaan Allen's good this year. I couldn't tell you. It's played for us for nine games. He got the last target. That's came out. I think it was 35 catches, 350 yards of touchdown. Every time the ball was thrown to him, he seemingly catches it. That's like Canaan Allen football. Downs, John's not going to be a minute sort of Viking. It sounds like. No. You never know. Healthy water sewers on a Colts Act of 53 right now. Josh Downs requested a trade. How do we could go? Quentin Treadwell. He did not touch home plate in a charity softball game. No, but he hit a lot of bombs. Yeah, it's great. Cool shoes, miss home plate though. So how do you do anything? How do you do anything? Deon Burke's, Ashton Dolan, and Anthony Gold. Hey, we'll give you a couple of these guys for a one. You could have these guys on your team for maybe two ones. If you're going to take all of our water sewers from our entire roster, we need at least two first round picks. Well, Quentin Treadwell is a former first round pick. Can you do it technically? Josh Downs could be a first round pick. Dolan just went like 60s. Yeah, Anthony Gold's got a cool name. Like a really cool name. They need that. That's a huge positive. You're right. I guess it is always a glass half full. You know, we got to always do that. Jim Ers actually told me rest in peace. Wish you're a round brother. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's saying that. Everybody in that building is probably thinking that at the same time. It's not easy. Any of these decisions. But he said the glasses and half four, half empty brother. Get a smaller glass. Oh, no, no, let's take a break. They should train time to warn. What's that? I mean, that one again. The glasses and half four, half empty brother. Do you think you'll get a smaller glass? Two or smaller? Yeah, always. Oh. That's what they did with Dodds. Perspective. All right. It's always full. It's golden like that. Dodds is not a smaller cup, Chris Ballard. Okay. No, Dodds is an ox. I saw him walking in with that sweatsuit. You wonder why he's wearing a sweatsuit? Why is that? You know. It's like there's jeans you try to buy in that one wherever you have to get it. Oh, you're talking about the extra. Whatever that guy called. Yeah, cowboy. What is this called? Extreme. Nuts the size of watermelons. That's exactly why he's. I'm assuming Carlier say had to tie him to a chair because he wanted to fucking trade everybody so bad. And she was like, you can't do it. You can't give up JT for a fifth. You just can't do it. Dodds is like, I fucking need to make some moves. You think he was like yearning to get a trying to get picks, man. Trying to fucking reset the shoe. And she's not letting them. These are our cults. This is our team. Dodds. You tried them. Dodds is trying to bleed blue. Is he still bringing it? I think he gave up. He put a bag over his head last time to think. Erskins did. Erskins. What? The flow. Yeah. Mr. Erskins. Yikes. I think you put a horse over his head or something. Oh, yeah. Did he perform a half time a few times? Yeah. Fan here. What a circle. Did he really have a half time performance in Lucas Oil? Yes. Like a stage a mic everything. Yes, but you did this like he said Madonna mic. He had a Madonna mic out there Carlow in for the rafters. Yep. Yeah, you know, he's not He said he's my recipe, but I need to say my heart will well on He did not he sang his song It's unbelievable Haven't done this had to produce band this last time game against cowboys. That was good. They were good They did some like modern songs. Here's mr. Erskins actually updating how he feels This is October 18th. He said change must happen quotes fans through and through in a matter what mediocrity is an unacceptable Standard mm-hmm. You won't lose me because I'm gonna ride till the change rebuild will happen. We know it's time These are our cults This is our team We need to build new we had a bag of respect. Yeah, sink the shoe, man. We said the shoe Reset the shoe Stinks like poo Reset the shoe That is what he saying how many home games left this year not actually they cancel all of them They're just doing they're just doing concerts actually coming right up That email we need to put our food order in for this Sunday I meet dolphins coming at that they're not even serving free food big one I'm worried because they're not flexing that tomorrow night football Surprisingly, no, you had to do that a couple weeks ago Which we know people are late on the whole flexing thing Which we don't like but my name football or prime time game there as season ticket holder would be phenomenal. That's a one would have dream. It's been years. It's been years since that's our thing But I worry because of what this look soul stadium was last weekend That was cowboys home game Very much going back to chicken tenders pricey but tasty Chicken tenders back in this week can't really if you can't really see what's going on in our space People in front you can just hear what's going on in the stadium Loud pop huge pop hell. Yeah, I go, you know, now that was Cowboys play. Yep. That's whoa That sound like a home game for us. It sound like we did something good I was excited like yeah, we got nine games left. We can still win 11 games here Like we still can get this thing rolling no matter who's here is not Cowboys fans look around Cowboys fans Who's doing chance Cowboys fans are the dolphins gonna be able to do that? Yeah Huge traveling fan base, especially this year Especially going for Miami to Indy. Mm-hmm. That's a one-way trip. I think exactly one of those Get a taste of the cold in November see the foil. It's a real game That's why Vegas and you know L.A. Arizona all those teams, you know struggle with their home attendance I'm very worried about the attendance this weekend's game. What times the game they better start busting in kids from all over the state What's the half time? What times it out actually you might be do you want to do I think do you want to do the half? You should do but you two is actually doing it. It's crazy. I can't believe they booked them but need them Bono in the edge are gonna be here. Actually again before right? Yeah, Bono's never tell the sphere is one of the worst concerts ever I've ever played a hits man. Yeah, I do remember the sphere was sweet. Yeah, well was incredible We felt like it was grossly misused that particular evening But unsuperable week as well with a crowd that's probably gonna be in there But for my understanding you two fans told us we didn't get it which definitely could be true So I appreciate you two doing a show for their niche fans Super Bowl week in Las Vegas in an attraction that everybody's gonna try to go to. Thank you for doing that If they're doing half time for the colds game, they got to bring it because two weeks ago was junior cheerleaders Which is kids from around Indianapolis my daughter actually quit She hated it so bad. She was able to get a photo wasn't able to do it But she could potentially do it a lot of girls quit in this last week Purdue band Purdue band Okay, they brought it. Well, they perform They did Bruno Mars song sick. Yeah, Bruno and they know more They did something else. There was something like very traditional. Yeah, it was like some modern songs though It was it was gurney or something to hear that. Yeah, it might have been journey. It was maybe bon Jovi Back that ass up. It might be yeah, song song. Don't. Yeah Yeah, they had somebody stand on top of the world's big strong Silver Don't get that korgy Adam come perform. I'll tell you what that korgy elusive Yeah, that wasn't that wasn't part of it. That wasn't a bit. They were really trying to get that guy. No, you thought that was a work buddy Yeah, I thought that was the show Look at that full effort. I look at that on down on me. I mean, these are a lot of the effort on these guys is questionable You can't cross you. Yeah, what do you got? You got a gently. I understand that I mean, you got nine of you. Let's try to like let's try to get us around it. It wasn't around Okay, that was a quiet defense right there. Oh, oh, there it is I'll tell you what the Corgis Corgis are incredibly stubborn From my understanding not mine, but good runners. You know, they are a hurting animal Not for that. Tell me Chuck doesn't run like this. Oh boy To his food bowl. No Jesus food bowl comes to him. You know that the Little rhubba Actually, Chuck actually hits a button. That room becomes fun Your dinner Charles Like way that korgy was operating though. There was frisbee dogs at the Seahawks game half-time phenomenal show Was it fun? Who else have we seen this year that's been good? A lot of drone shows. We had to a lot of drone light shows have been happening around my colleges. Those are sick. Oh yeah Chicago bears the Oh, yeah, there was a mariochibit. Yeah, that was awesome phenomenal. I'll note her name lights. I saw those of Unbelievable. Notre Dame's presentation was really good Utilize full jumbo tron nice utilize it dark everywhere else incredible jumbo tron Which leads to everything else coming along. It was that was a really good environment. Obviously I mean another day nailed it for everything. Huge win for them. Huge Huge with Vikings did that well too. Yes, they did when they went pitch black It was sick. Yeah, black stadium was one of the best. I was about to say that was part of best NFL Like I guess fan just overall experience. I think legit I've experienced for sure The Viking ship coming in to yeah, yeah, and then them could you guys hear? Hey, when Adrian blew on the horn. It didn't sound on the TV. Oh, yeah, stadium felt as blow ever It wasn't loud. I couldn't hear it. I didn't sound at all. He was on that thing for like 15 seconds And the sound never came out at least on ESPN 2 from when I was watching we heard that loud noise from the Gallerhorn It's a big horn. They got good lights on sick. Good clap Yeah, the Skull Club. Yeah They're booze were very loud too when they were when they were doing How about their cheers for Brosmer when he completed a couple balls Yeah, then yeah, the the sarcastic cheers never make you feel great sarcastic. They're still in that game That was not sarcastic. They thought the Brosmer was gonna leave them back. Leave them back to hometown kids. I thought so too We might have been being sarcastic a little I said what a ball by Max Brosmer. He's spending all over the place in Daniel's guys Yeah, he didn't laugh guys. I go what a ball. I put it right on him They're not playing defense right now. They were blitzing him That's why how much respect they had for him. Dan couldn't see it at that point. Dan said they're not playing deep like He's like It was Dobber was down with the person even though he literally said that they need to call everyone in the league I completely forgot that he was Carson Wentz's biggest fan of years until he started and he started his bullshit It was just warming up I completely forgot that he was like that. I could completely he was the big he had a garbage bag of one But right company didn't he have a garbage bag at one point he skipped that Carson skip that four-yard pass to Jordan May so he said he just got solid Yeah, he didn't have to settle any fucking stakes, dude He's been an NFL long time He's played good football at times We didn't see any of it last night. Second break on the other side. We got Dan landing joining us. Yes Speaking of bad football into good football I mean they were done and out looked bad New offense coordinator who was fired from Wyoming last year at the same position Tillin Raiola out in Nebraska plays his best football and they get a huge win over a high state Now everybody in Columbus is wondering what the hell is going on in Oregon might sneak in here They got the roster to do it allegedly. They got the team We'll see what the rankings, you know see how it looked tonight Did you say better? It seems like there was a little bit of a threat there to rich Clark and boys No, it just you know some of the things he was mentioned. I noticed it was Certain teams aren't viewed that same way. You can do this whole spiel about Mississippi state, you know Iowa beats two ranked teams when they're playing them and then they seem to fucking forget that but you know Camario Taylor doesn't play for for Michigan, you know what I mean He doesn't just a two-loss Iowa cow-winning him wishes Child don't know if it matters. I don't know if cow-winning him knows what stays in it wouldn't know boy Last week. I said I believe in cow-winning him and does goes do you? I mean tell us his immediate reaction. What happened 20 years of Winning football. I don't know honestly something's in a water in an orbit. I play stings. You have to be a Michigan man to be there It's the the proof is in the pudding no scandals just dog shit football bring back Sheroni. All right. Let's get to a break Bring him back. I don't know if that's ever happened. Probably not, but you know You know what we'd like to be your friends tell a friend something nice because it might change what the up to now. Good luck out there. Sharon. Yeah. Yeah. He's hanging around. He probably feels pretty vindicated. Yeah. I'm sure he does. Absolutely. About a lot of things. That Desmond respond. Do you? I believe in Kyle Witt and him. You know, we've seen a lot. Do you? It's like, whoa, that's Desmond Howard saying that. That's a big voice in the Michigan world. And then you see what happens after the lost Michigan state. But five field goals for Michigan state gets job done against Michigan. Nobody thought that was going to happen. And then all the Michigan people came out and were like, are we done with this fucking skier from Utah? How is this what we are? It has been mind look, but to your point about Iowa, Michigan not being good this year. Bad. But and that's what I'm saying, though, is that state not being good at all? Right. Bad for Big 10. When I will play Michigan, they'll rank like 15th and beat them. Iowa good for Big 10. Yeah, but I don't think they view it that way. Oregon good for Big 10. I agree. Down stretch. If Oregon's able to win, this is good news for big. Even Illinois, like Illinois has turned it on here towards the end. Yeah, Bill must said, if we were a three lost SEC team, we'd probably be in top 10, but instead we're in the Big 10. And this is how they view us. UCLA still want to feed it good for the Big 10. Northwestern has some wins under their bat, even though they just lose to you guys and magnificent failure fashion. They potentially get for Big 10. Big 10. So has a lot of good, even though. Yeah, that's that's killing them. It really is. And I don't I don't think people really believe in I you. No, they don't. Holy what shit. Okay. Trade parade on this trade deadline day. Legends from NFL pass have been traded from one NFL team to another. On this particular trade deadline day, Tom Pelicera is reporting the Titans are trading a money hooker to the Buffalo bills. Okay, debutsch a money hooker to a player Buffalo bills always up for the action. Your thoughts on this move is you're learning about it in real. A very good football player, a playmaker, a veteran has been around a while. I had to sit rep a couple weeks ago with Joe Burr, I believe he threw five touchdowns. Maybe ran in one, but he threw three interceptions that game. All three of those interceptions went to a money hooker. Just a big time playmaker. Can read it, can help get guys lined up. So he will definitely help that new look Buffalo bills defense. Congratulations. The beans still being in the battle and in the game. No matter how many pixie has or no matter what the situation is, he's going to be snooping around. I know they have James Cook and he just had one of the biggest games he's ever had. I offered being Jonathan Taylor for three walks. You did. You guys heard that real time. I still have yet to get a response. He kind of just walked away and shoot me off, but who knows what they're cooking behind the scenes. Bill's add another player after a huge night last night. AJ, your thoughts on what teams and messages are being sent. Yeah, I mean, obviously the message is, hey, if we have a chance to win, we're going to go do whatever we possibly can to shore up any kind of deficiencies we have. So yeah, I mean, money hooker, like you said, he picks off Joe Burr a couple weeks or three times. He's got something to him. So I think he's going to help. Good for the Buffalo Beals. It's going to get adding another piece to that defense that played great last night. Second and a fifth round pick. Okay. Same as Jesse Bates. Got five picks this year that when they released CJ GJ the other day, they thought that safety move could be coming. Buddha was the one that though it was speculative there, but yes, makes hold on. It's kind of confusing. Yeah, fifth rounder going back. So second round pick from the bills to the Titans. Bill's get hooker and a fifth. Okay. So second rounder, second rounder for a money and a fifth round. Yes. Okay. They're cooking out there a second round pick. After getting two ones and a four for Jeffrey Simmons. Now they get another second round pick. Titans are stockpiling quickly here for a draft that is just, you know, a few months away in some fan bases mind. And maybe the change is right around the bend for a lot of these teams who are getting great compensation for their greatest players. A second round pick for a money hooker. Unbelievable football player. Okay. Happy that this has happened to him and the bills. The forest buckler was worth a fourth round pick. Let's get to a break. Fourth rounder. Money offers a second round pick. He's unbelievable football player. I get it. I love him. Jeffrey Simmons, two ones and a four. The forest buckler's worth one fourth round pick. It doesn't, it doesn't have to be about the forest buckler. Okay. I don't always have to go back to that. I don't have to do that. I need to stop doing that actually. That scares me. When they get up, give up to get sauce last year, two ones, two, and 80 minutes. Throwing. He couldn't catch the ball with us though. I mean, there was he couldn't play. No, he showed flashes. He had the one bone hit play that after that. He just had to get them, you know, didn't have to move on from, but that was bad play. Yeah, it was a bad play. And I think if it was just that, I'd think everybody would be okay. I think we gave up too early. So the fuck's thrown on the ball? Man, dire straits. Tough. Still a John Taylor though. Maybe we can try to weigh the rest of our offense a line. Josh Jones too. Like, what the fact that we move on for Quentin Nelson for it? If we're gonna just keep John Okay, you can't really do like a half rebuild. Like, what do we do? Let Dodds cook man. He's got a plan. More details hooker too. He already been paid. So he'll be making like 13 next two years. What would that be in the safety comps? Oh, like 12. Okay, so, hey, middle of the pack. Probably the deal that the forest buckner is going to sign. Because whatever team he goes to. It's a good break. Trade deadline day. It's going to happen. Pick it up. It is. He's all the time for him. One hour and 39 minutes for your team to make a massive move to either help the future with help to now. What your team do that? I don't think so. I think they're gonna stand past. Yes. Big Mike's birthday. Yeah, they're going to give him a present. What your teams do that? A bear is already having how it's cooking for the future. Happy birthday, big Mike. Love you, big Mike. Love you, Mike. What are you guys looking for right now? You know, I it was a wide receiver, but I don't know if there are any left out there. Maybe some corner help. We lost one of the better ones in the league. You ran him out of town. No, he did that. And now he's just doing the same shit down there. But I got a text from Lou Combs says, Hey, listen, man, the forest buckner trade probably pretty tough for you, but we traded away McCaffrey and Burns. And it's still not great, you know, the kind of revisit those moves. So everybody says Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey comp. And I think Carolina Panthers fans go, like, do not do not agree to that deal. That is not enough. That is not enough. This is what I think just happened here. So the coach are being told by rap sheet, Chef D and all these people were talking to the other teams that would like to get Jonathan Taylor. Hey, Christian McCaffrey compensation is really good trade. And then you listen to Panthers fans go, like, yeah, the fuck, right? Do not do that, especially with him going to the Niners. And when you do the first weekend, catch your touchdown, throw a touchdown and run a touchdown. Literally his first weekend out there. It's like Panthers fans are like, it's not worse. Whatever if you're not getting a one, you need a couple of those. And that's why we help New England cause him up and give them a one for Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. Let's get to our break. We'll see if anything happens on the other side. Also, Dan Laning will be joining us of the Oregon docs. He's coming fresh from practice. So he'll be in a fiery mindset. Nice. Maybe you'll motivate us as we head into week 10 of the NFL season. Week nine is done. Let's enjoy every single moment, shall we? CFP rankings is second one tonight. We're in the middle of the greatest time of the year. And also thanks givings around the corner, right around the morning. Christmas is coming. No year. Playoffs. Super ball. It's a joint all. Second moment. Breathe it in. Football is the greatest. This man right here is Ohio State Buckeye legend, AJ Hawk, the talks of tables here at Boston Conor and at Thai Schmidt, one of the hammer down Cowboys AP Tonus here and nine year NFL vet Yukon Husky, Darius J ballers. We're also joined by a man. It was obviously a friend of the program. He lives in the world far, far away. He is the head coach of the Oregon Ducks football team, which at one point this season, many of us said they're done and out. They're done. So it's over. What have they done? Battle back. New OC backup quarterback. resilience. They go into Columbus and get a massive win over the buck eyes, ladies and gentlemen, with everything still in front of him. The head coach of the Oregon Ducks football team, Dan Lanning. Dan, how you doing brother? I'm doing good. You guys good? Yeah. How are you doing? You look great. Good haircut. It looks like you just got shaved up. It looks like literally right now. It just happened. I just cut it short so I don't have to cut it again. You know, so smart. Yeah. Like a monthly routine. You cut it real tight. Then it gets disgusting. Then we trim it back and then we get disgusting again. Well, let's talk about what the season has been for you guys. Obviously it doesn't start anywhere near how you expected. I would assume how the team expected. What have you learned about your team this year and where you stand at this exact moment? Yeah, I think you just said it resilient, right? We've experienced a lot of adversity. A lot of things that look different than what we anticipated when the year started. I've always told our team you want to be playing your best ball in November. There was a stretch where in this last game where that really showed up. I mean, at one point where 35 points, I think we have 228 yards. Basically, converting every third down and our opponent sitting there at 47 yards, 0 for 3 on 4th and 1 for 5 on 3rd. We really clicked in a moment with special teams offense and defense together where we're playing some of our best ball. I think it shows what we're capable of. So it's good to see that happen at this point in November. Yeah, definitely. As you go down the stretch, you want to be able to play your best football. You still have everything in front of you. Is that your messaging to your team? I thought and I think right now this is your best display of leadership in the world that we're in right now with the amount of money they're going to. A lot of these college kids and little in the money that's available in the NFL that's scrolling around your head right there as you're giving us answers. There's a lot of kids tapping out of situations. There's a lot of kids deciding like having agents around them, parents around them, whoever around them saying, this is a bad situation. Don't get yourself hurt. We need to get you into a transfer portal. A lot of people tapping out. Your team hasn't done that at all. Can you tell me a little bit about your locker room and how your messaging has been this year versus maybe years past where everything was kind of going swimmingly for your team early? Yeah, I think I'm here. You said it. I think I've grown the most as a coach this year, and it doesn't always show up in results. I think one thing that I've kind of really helped myself with is what you hear coach say and say all the time is like, we don't control outcomes, but we can influence outcomes. We got a bunch of players in that room that don't want to quit. They want to find ways to add value to themselves and enhance our team, and that's continued to show up. So we just focus on the things that we can control. The intensity that we attack the practice field. I feel like we really loosened up the last few weeks out there on the field and in the hallway here where it's like, let's play loose. Let's let him hang and let's go attack. Okay, last question for me for the boys. Have some. Your offense coordinator was fired by Wyoming because he couldn't call plays last year. Hey, Dylan Raiola. Whenever we saw him play for you guys, it looked not good. Offense coordinator dialed it up against Matt Patricia Ohio State defense. Dylan Raiola playing his best ball. We have ever seen him play in that same setting. The decision to go with new OC and let go of last OC and then knowing that Dylan Raiola is your quarterback. Can you just tell me a little bit about how you and the team have responded and what you've seen here from the offense since making a massive move at the coordinator position. Yeah, I mean, we were ready for a spark, right? And I think you look for a spark, almost like that fit in the game. Like that's a spark for our team. It's the same with you to change it. A quarterback you have to figure out what do we do well? What really sits well with Dylan? He's always been a great processor and he operates unbelievable when he has great confidence. And he had a lot of confidence going into that game because we presented a lot of different looks. And as the game went on, he built more confidence because of what we were going to be able to how we were going to be able to attack him. And I think Jay and the offense with staff have obviously done an unbelievable job. Sometimes you're as good a coach as the players who get to coach. And we have some good players that you get to coach here. And Jay's done an outstanding job with the talent that we have. I think everybody sees your roster and gets excited about what's possible down the stretch. Good luck there. You just mentioned something AJ wants to ask about. Oh, he's muted. Jeez. What is he? AJ, you've used yourself so much. Yeah, you're muted. This is embarrassing. This is a bad look. I know it's not good for the program right now. It's not good. It's like what I don't know if you saw it, coach. Brutus left early. You guys made this the mascot leave early from the only one. Oh, that one. He was pointed scoreboard. Yeah. And that's AJ probably just mute himself on purpose because what he wanted to say is probably, you know, maybe not as hospitable as we would expect or hope around here. There's a chance AJ couldn't contain himself is what happened because the conversation is about Ohio State right now. The conversation is about Oregon to very, very different combos happening. Let's continue this organ.com. Vogue. Darius Butler has a question for your coach. You got a big battle coming up with Michigan right now. I guess the general public are kind of just out on them. I know their defense is no joke. What are you seeing on film from this Michigan team and kind of I guess some keys to victory for you early in the week. Yeah, I think I mean, one thing you just said is their defense is good enough. And obviously has is good enough to win a game by themselves in a lot of ways with the way that they play. And also just reminded our team, like what kind of spark do we gain when there was a coordinator change, like that same thing is going to happen most likely with this team. You look around college football. You know, Maryland just want a big game, right? You look for the stage just want a big game. My team's that Oklahoma just made a change in coordinator. Look what they were able to do. Right. So I think if you look around college football, when there's change, sometimes that creates some excitement in the program. So that change could lead to some success in the end. And we should expect their best. When you look at what they have on the field, that they have a great roster. They have really good players coach. What's a good coach? So it's going to take our best to compete with this team. Yeah, your best in all three phases. You mentioned that their age. It was going to ask about it, but he had no sound tone digs has a question for your coach. Yeah, coach. Obviously, it feels like the last couple weeks you've kind of had a big play that has spurred, you know, great comebacks, if you will, you know, down early in the first quarter. And then you dial up just an incredible fake point with two of your best defensive players, two of your best defensive lineman in this situation, to kind of spark everything on Saturday. Is that you who dials that up? Is that the special teams coordinator? How does that work? And why did you call in that situation? We, that's a team effort. And, you know, we created that we've run a fake with a run, you know, probably, you know, my five years here three times. So we thought people would be dialed up for that same presentation, but now it's a run a little bit different formation. And we felt like everyone will buy it on the run. Let's have a pass off of it. So we've been practicing that. I think since August 31st and having it ready for when we felt like, you know, it was needed in a moment. And I always think, you know, I don't know your opinion pad as a special teams guy, but you don't run fakes when everybody thinks you're going to run a fake. You don't do it at fourth and three to 50, like you do it there. Now, if it doesn't work, it ain't right. So you better have a lot of confidence. So we've literally been running that since August and figured out what look we liked the best and then ultimately think players over plays. And there's two phenomenal players touching the ball there, right? And Taylor Tuyoti and Mateo. So it just made a lot of sense. How about a jump throw from enough facts? Yeah. P P doing that. It's a phenomenal call. 14, three, Dan 11 in the second quarter on the road. Calling that is huge gut sack. As you know, last question free here about a massive night tonight. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah. Coach, the second college football playoff rankings come out tonight. I know you guys probably don't give a shit about that because you have, you know, stuff you need to take care of on Saturday. But based on what they did last week with where UCLA is at. I don't know if they really believe in Indiana this year. Do you think the big 10 as a whole is being overlooked this year because teams like Northwestern have been so good. A team like UCLA is kind of taking everyone by surprise. You guys know how good Illinois is like, do you think that is part of why the big 10 is maybe being a little bit disrespected this year? Ty, I'm sure you're not going to mention Iowa. Well, I don't have to mention Iowa. They're, you know, perennial powerhouse. You know that coach. Well, see, yeah, I mean, obviously it's any secret that our conference probably doesn't get the respect it deserves, you know, especially when you see like we get and we got what's accomplished in this conference. So the results kind of speak for themselves. I'm going to sit in those meetings. I mean, I'm just ultimately what I would say is based on what we show work capable of and how we playing right now. I'm sure a lot of teams don't want us in in those 12 teams, right, especially coming down the stretch. And if it's about having the best teams in the end, we got to see who's playing the best football at the end. And we get an opportunity to go out of your Saturday and show that, you know, and there's, you know, I get it. We we haven't necessarily been sustained success all season, but ultimately we're playing really good football. If we can keep that train running, right, this conference can keep that train running, then they should certainly consider teams like ourselves, right, and certainly these other big 10 teams that we've played to be in that hot, you know, because when teams have done it, you look at Miami last year, they were almost not in it and then they make it to the national championship. If it's about getting the best teams in, you know, I think that's something that everybody's got to evaluate. And this conference has great football teams and some great play. Yeah, and you're excited to prove what this team is. We're all pumped to watch what your 2026 Oregon Ducks team is at the end with a lot of football left to play. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. Always appreciate you. I guess I'm good one. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Daneland. Holy hell. It has happened. The trade parade. It continues on this trade deadline day in ladies and gentlemen, this is the one. This is the big Minnesota move. Kirk Cousins has been traded from the Las Vegas Raiders to the Minnesota Vikings for a third-round pick. Kirk Cousins starting quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders with Fernando Mendoza waiting for his opportunity for Nana Mendoza, he's been winner. National champion. And overall pick in the NFL draft has been watching Kirk Cousins be a professional quarterback, both on the practice field in the meeting room and also on game days. How does Kirk handle himself? How does he dress? Who does he talk to? How does he talk to? When's he get ready? How's he get ready? Fernando has been watching and learning and now the Las Vegas Raiders have decided that it is Fernando Mendoza's time to be a raider in the showcase what he is as an NFL quarterback versus what he was at Indiana and now Kirk Cousins goes back to an offense that he knows well. I think he knows the terminology well. I think he knows the housing market well. I think he's had his most success most recently in Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell and they're seemingly one quarterback away from maybe going on a super bowl run. This feels like a win-win for both sides. Third-round pick doesn't feel as expensive as we thought the Raiders could potentially make it with everybody on Earth knowing that the Minnesota Vikings are looking for a quarterback. Obviously Raiders in the AFC, Minnesota in the NFC, those things do carry a little bit of weight whenever decisions are being made. But the Vikings get a quarterback that hopefully can be a professional in NFL caliber QB. It may be something that can complement a defense that can win a title. Debut your thoughts now that it's officially official Kirk Cousins back to the Minnesota Vikings. Good for football. He's been the ultimate pro on and off the field and I think he's playing better than just about anybody expected him to play in Las Vegas this year. So I expect him to hit the Minnesota Vikings playing in mid-season form and I believe his last game for the Vikings was in Lambo Field against the Packers and now this is where he starts this week which we assume he will. It'll be back in Lambo Field against the Packer about three years later. So I mean, it's a great football story for him and he'd be even greater if he can get to a late playoff game or maybe even a Super Bowl with this defense. We watched it boot sonogram. This defense was phenomenal. It's one of the best quarterbacks in the league with Josh Allen. If they can get a capable offense and get those weapons actually involved, which we expect with Kirk Cousins and KOC, I mean, this is a great move now for Kirk Cousins but for Kevin O'Connell because I'm sure it's starting to get a real hot around him and his name as well. Yeah. And Justin Jefferson's doing a pretty big celebration. Yeah. Same with Addison and Hawkinson and Aaron Jones. As AJ Hock rejoins us here, AJ, Kirk Cousins back to the Vikings seemingly was a smart decision from jump. Whether or not the Raiders wanted to make the decision to move to Fernando was seemingly the big hold up from an outside looking in perspective. Now that the deal is done, how do you feel about the Vikings? How do you feel about the Raiders, AJ? I think as Debot said, like this is a win-win for everybody. This is one scenario. I don't think we talked about a whole lot before the season. Like the question was going into the season. When does Fernando start? Like does he start week one? Do you hope Kirk, you know, run to the wheels fall off for Kirk, but Kirk takes him what? They're four and five. They got four wins out of him. Kirk plays well. He gets traded the Vikings like a great football story for them and now we get to see Fernando play. So this is like the ultimate. I feel like where it kind of works out for everybody and gives Kirk another chance to be the starter and see if he can make some magic happen in Minnesota. And for the Raiders, they said we're going to be patient with Fernando. We're not going to force him in there. I think they can sleep at night knowing that Fernando got a lot of time watching Kirk cousins be an NFL quarterback and they get a pick for Kirk as their number one overall pick gets a chance to play. Maybe handled perfectly. Now granted more wins going undefeated is what everybody would say would be perfect. But with a transition into a new quarterback era with a veteran who is respected and good at football, this may be the most smooth outcome it could have been for the Raiders. Yeah, I believe when Fernando had a little time against the Patriots and from what we saw in that one drive, like the team was playing for them. They're playing hard for them. And I don't know if Brock Bowers was even playing with them when he was in. So to be interesting to see how they're kind of tandem terms out to be for the Raiders. But if you're the Vikings, I mean, here we go. You're six and two still like the world is burning today for the Vikings fans up until right now. Now you got the quarterback back six and two, like we just mentioned still have, you know, everything, including the one seed in front of you. If you really go out there and win and right away, huge tests, especially with kind of the torrent Achilles with Minnesota now returning home to Fulfillus Destiny. Yeah, and you're talking about the Packers. I mean, Ty Schmitt was very upset with who the Vikings had a quarterback. Now they get Kerkos. Is there a little regret coming from you with what you wanted to see changes be made? No, no, because I, you know, I mean, shit, I wanted to see Carson Wens playing quarterback for the Vikings this week. I mean, let's be honest. But I just, you know, they had to do this. They didn't have a choice. It'll be interesting to see what the line does or if it moves at all because the Packers as of right now or three and a half point favorites at home. But it'll be interesting, you know, I mean, they played week one. So I think this is a very different Packers team than, and also if you look at what quarterbacks have done against the Vikings defense, like we remember the collapse and how bad it was. Jordan, love through for like three hundred and seventy yards and two touchdowns against the Vikings defense in that first week. So this should be, this should be a great, great test for both sides. And now, yeah, now we'll see, like this is kind of the, the Vikings team we can envision that could maybe go in a Super Bowl. And if you're the Packers, you know, I mean, you have a lot of familiarity with Kirk Cousins and they have to come to Lambo on Sunday. Okay. 246 Eastern. We're talking about Kirk Cousins now, a member of the Minnesota Vikings again. Remember the last time he was with the Vikings in Koc, he earned himself a hundred and eighty million from the Atlanta Falcons. We have a look at the odds on draft Kings with one half of the hammer down Cowboys A.P. Time mentioned the three and a half. It has not moved yet. The vision hasn't really moved yet. I wonder if they're waiting to see, I mean, it just happened, but I'm wondering if they're waiting to see if they're going to, he's going to start officially this weekend. I was just looking at the Raiders schedule coming up. Yeah. Nando's first two starts will be against the Seattle Seahawks defense and then the Devor Bronco's defense. So he's going to get baptized by fire. I'm very excited to see what's going to happen there. And they can't run the ball. So it will be a good luck to him. And Kubiak's going to have to make some magic with Fernando Han selected, you know, for him to run his offense. We are believers in Fernando. He might struggle here against Seattle and Denver, like a lot of quarterbacks probably would. But in the long run, I believe Fernando will be a good NFL quarterback for the Raiders. I think he will win for the Las Vegas Raiders. And I'm excited to make in this move to Fernando. I'm excited to and like you said, the transition is perfect. It's not like you have a shitty team, a shitty roster. You've got pros on that team. You've got a good coach. You're in a competitive position. Maybe not playing the playoffs this year because of how, you know, at AFC West and AFC is. But in a competitive position, you've had a half a season, training camp, all the off-season to watch Kirk Cuddon's operate Brock Bowers is healthy and he's having an unbelievable year. So I like it. I love it. And I'm going to pull it down. I'll ask you to. I nailed it. Third round pick. Didn't get the fifth. So pop that tweet up. Gumps. No, I'm just joking. Just joking. I want to cover two to be talked about on the internet, basically said Carson was about to throw another interception if they decided they did and that happened. Can grads to Kirk Cuddon's, can grads to the Vikings, can grads to the Raiders, can grads to football fans. Yes. Six and two team now has a quarterback that should be on an NFL field at this stage, AJ. Yeah. And I think Debud said earlier, as long as like they can have a capable offense now. Like no one's expecting them to go out there and light it up completely. Like a capable offense that tends to not turn the ball over and get some first downs because I believe what they're 0 and 8 on third downline or last night and 0 for 2 on 4th. So that's not a great way to get victory. So I think Kirk could get the ship going the right direction. AJ, they made it to the Red Zone one time. It was Brawzmer's last play on 4th and 9th. That was when they cracked into the Red Zone for the first time. It was abysmal. It was discussing. And I think that's all. It's settling. Yes. They need a settle in a little bit. You still find a rhythm, man. You need to find a rhythm with it. I like how it just slangs it. All different arm angles, whatever's happening, if you don't care. He'll let that elbow go ahead and get wherever I don't know a lot about like quarterback play. I mean, I was third string did take snaps. I can't spin it pretty good. So I'm not, but I should not be acting like I'm a quarterback expert. I feel like if you just watch this thing on any quarterback, you can find other impassable homes. If you watch this, you'll know if they can fucking complete a pass or not. I mean, if this elbow is all over the place every different throw, the consistency is probably not going to be a thing like you're just affleading balls there. So whenever you're a little bit tight, whenever you're a little bit nervous, whenever you're a little bit zicked up and you're affleading things, you're either forcing it into the ground because you're short on it or you're just pushing it in and it's missing. So you can kind of tell whether or not somebody's going to be fucking accurate. Just by the way, they throw a football like almost just by, okay, that guy's going to be able to throw a football consistently to the place he wants to throw it to. But if this elbow is moving a bunch, unless they're stone cold killers, like patch moments, patch moments is affleading it, okay? So that's a mentality that you have to have in the biggest moments. I'm just going to fucking yeah, I'll sling this thing. That's not normal. Okay, that's why most of these quarterbacks fundamentals, we're going through this. If I get the ball back behind my ear, I let it my shoulder and I flip my hips. The ball is going to go right where I want it to go. If you're just out there fucking doing this thing, that's a lot of in between the years, in real time, emotional stuff, just athlete, I don't know, of course, once you'll be playing like that at this stage. But as soon as you saw first throw, go four feet over to somebody's head and you watch his arm, it's like. He should try to throw a left-handed tonight. He should just try to throw a left-handed out there. Once again, we are not quarterback guru's, but I think having good fundamentals is normally a pretty big part of being a professional athlete, and it felt like Carson went just out there skipping rocks last night, literally and figuratively, just taking around. Through a ball off his offensive lineman's helmet for his first completion. Is this best ball of the night? Three-yard gain. What's best ball? That ball, whenever he just threw it right into the ground, I mean just right into the ground. Perfect. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Senior NFL Insider, can tell us a little bit more about Kirk Cousins. Now, a member of the Minnesota Vikings yet again, from ESPN, Adam Schaeft here. Yes. What's going on? Schaeft here quickly, and we know you have a trade deadline frenzy coming up here in about eight minutes or so. Kirk Cousins is a Minnesota Viking. We thought maybe Daniel Jones or some other names, and he Mack Jones kind of drifted into the conversations. Kirk Cousins was always going to be the answer. When did the Raiders decide that they were going to make this move? Well, I think they had elicit the quarterbacks this morning. They went through and they spoke to various franchises. And it feels like the cults have been very reticent about dealing players. It seems like they're a little bit gun shy after some of the criticism that they got on Quentin Nelson and the Forest Buckner. And so, Daniel Jones, it didn't seem like it ever gained much traction at all. Kirk Cousins seemed to be the guy that they were locking in on. They checked in on other quarterbacks, but you can just tell as the day was going on that the Kirk Cousins situation was gaining steam and that that was tracking to happen. And it has happened for 2027, third round draft pick, Kirk Cousins goes back to Minnesota. I'm going to guess he plays Sunday at Green Bay, which by the way, his last appearance as a Viking came at Lambo Field when he tore his Achilles on that same field. And now he goes back there to play in that same game and that same stadium. So that has to be a little bit emotional, back in Minnesota, emotional. The Raiders obviously move on from him. That's a little bit emotional. Fernando Mendoza takes over with Las Vegas right now, but something had to get done and that's the quarterback that the Vikings honed in on today. Yeah, congratulations that a Viking is getting Kirk Cousins quickly, because we know we have to go to the trade deadline frenzy on ESPN. Last night, actual tryout for Carson Wentz and it just goes the absolute worst. Like if he plays good football last night or mediocre football last night, is he the Vikings quarterback for the foreseeable future and when did the day literally wake up this morning and go? Yeah, we're not doing it. Was it an all night affair last night? I mean, you're there. You're watching. I think everybody who's watching that game, just as you're watching, this can't go on. You can't do this. You can't play like this. You're kind of a defense that's going out every week, playing the way they are. This cannot be allowed to continue. It just felt like watching that, it was like a meltdown on offense that when you have half the season left and you have a six and two record, that it has to be addressed right away. And I think after the game, like I texted with the Raiders last night, I'm like, have the Vikings called yet? And they said not yet. It's early on the West Coast. And as of last night, about 11.30, I can show you the tech, having cold. Well, obviously they go home, they sleep out, they think, what are we doing? Well, Kirk Cousins is an option. Let's see if we can get this done and they do get it done. Hey, wake up and say, what are we doing? Anything but what we did last night, I do not can't have it. I can't have it. Agreed. None of us can. Football fans can't take it. We'll watch you in a matter of moments on ESPN on this trade deadline, frenzy. We appreciate you, Shepty. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Since the last hour is normally when everything cooks, we are going to tune in to ESPN as well. I believe it is an NFL live special where they're doing a trade deadline frenzy. The numbers tell us there's about to be a lot of actions because everybody's settling in to who's available, who's not available. What does the market look like? Who's potentially still available? Teams who might have guys that they thought they were going to trade elsewhere might reach out and say, hey, we are OK with moving on. Do you want this? There's a lot that can happen. We will follow along. And then we'll be back tomorrow with another beautiful Walt Wednesday. I know the coach is scared right now, but right now, do you think we'll log on tomorrow? JT's traded. Yes. Oh, we've had multiple insiders tell us the Colts are really scared to do anything right now. Just because they don't want to look back because they've already gotten rid of so many people. Gunshot. Say through Dad's phone out. I do wonder if they are wondering if Ed Dodds is potentially operating at, or do they have any leverage at all when everybody knows that Ed Dodds is not going to be there. You know, he's honey pot in the team. That's what you're saying. It's like, I think Carly, yeah, everywhere I've heard it. Carly probably needs to do press conference. The negotiations. Yeah. He's probably the one that's going to have to do it. Start. Yeah. Like that. I was very suspect of Ed Dodds handling the future of the Indianapolis Colts being a part of the present and the pass that has got us to this particular point. And I wonder if other teams too are like, Dodds, you don't get a fuck. Come on. Yeah. You're right. What do you need? Take it. I'm not trying to work him. Hey, we'll bring you. You take care of us. You know, once you get-- Luis, we'll give you like a assistant GM. He's a professional. He wears sweats with terrible shirts to things whenever he's announced that is basically the face of an organization. But everybody says he's a good guy. Good at his job. We'll find out. Got about an hour or so. Good luck out there. I'm nice and might change your life. We're in this thing together. Let's never forget that. Unless you're not on my team anymore because you get traded. Then you're on their team, though. I'm on my team. Get some fucking action here. Please. We're going to turn into ESPN for this. It should be a-- Thank God the bike has got a quarter. I would say, yeah, we-- I mean, that's the-- that's the big one. Yep. You're starting quarterback. Agreed. Superbow Calibre D. One of the better safeties in the league. That might be a superbowl altering move. Yeah, best division football right now. That was a one team without a quarterback. Wow, the Vikings might be the best team in the NFC North now that I think about it. They might be the worst even in the NFC North, too. It's still-- they do still have that in place. All right, here. We thank you for letting us do this. Last night was really cool. Oh, yeah. Appreciate you all. Appreciate you. Well, Stoney, great having Tony College. Shout out, Robo, yeah. Good touch. Yeah, that was great. I heard that cause quite a buzz. Oh. Tony was awesome. Hey, what? Always is. Shout out to Randy. Hey, Tony. Hi. They're happy. Why? Hey, Chucky. Why? So yes tomorrow, you're the best. We love you. Team on me. Team on three. Trade parade, baby. Oh, yeah. One, two, three, team. Hey. Bye-bye.