PMS 2.0 1662 - Overreaction Monday LIVE from US Bank Stadium with Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky,

And now I don't need to talk to you about any welcome to U.S. Mike Staglia. That's the nice kind of high football. This question begins now. Football! It is absolutely magical. It's the reason why this beautiful $1.1 billion stadium was built in the summer of 2016. So a little bit older than 10 years. The place looks magical and spectacular. It's clean. It feels nice and tonight. It's going to host a game that has implications down the road in a huge way. Not only because Josh Allen in his Buffalo Bill's team. Looking better than they've looked in a long-ass time. And Joe Brady's first year as a head coach, Adelaide, the number one point scoring offense in the entire NFL. Whether coming into the home of the number one point scoring defense in the NFL with Brian Flores in Harrison Smith. You're talking about a marquee, main event matchup between these two heavyweights and the best that the entire NFL has. But on that Minnesota Viking side, I don't know if you saw the graphic there. Carson Wentz is going to be the starting quarterback. Now, if Carson has a great game, in showcases that he can be the quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings, maybe that will quiet the trade deadline conversation that is going to have to come to a head tomorrow at the quarterback position of the Minnesota Vikings. Is Daniel Jones getting traded to Minnesota? They have said no. That will not take place. If Carson Wentz comes out here and lays an absolute egg, which is possible for the Minnesota Vikings look for another quarterback before tomorrow's 4 o'clock deadline, we shall see. Implications across the board, excited and thankful to be in the building will be live on ESPN 2 with some special surprise guests as well. We are so lucky that we get to do this for a living college. Football was incredible. We'll talk about it all. It's not just mean. It's not just the lads behind the camera set up here in the, I guess, under the biggest jumbo tron we've seen. Yeah. Yeah. In some time. Eight of the Colts. Yeah. Okay. Relax. This is a big part of the viewers experience. I think this place has been built wonderfully. Nobody has ever said a bad thing about it whenever you're inside of it and once you're inside of it, you can realize why the toxic table at Boston Conner and at Tye Schmidt, you two did battle this weekend. Con man. Uh oh. Uh oh. Yeah. Was it kids Tom Brady came back and scared Drake main to turn the ball over so much or is it because this Packers team Tye might be the best team in all the ball. We crown the bears. We've crowned the Jacksville Jaguars. We've wondered, especially with Miles Garrett back with the Rams. We've wondered about a lot of these teams. The Packers yesterday going into Foxboro on Bronx induction ceremony day, relive in the glory days. Tom Brady in the building, everything going the way that now Patriots are without AJ Brown and dobs. They don't have their one or two wide receivers. But nonetheless, Packers don't have Michael Parsons and some other players on their roster as well. Demoralize the Patriots. You got to be flying incredibly high on this overreaction Monday. Yeah. It was an absolutely fantastic weekend. There's really just no other way to say it. Um, you know, did I expect that to happen? Certainly not. I felt very confident that the Packers would win going into it. But boy oh boy, I did not expect them to just beat the absolute dog shout out of the Patriots. This is kind of what every Packers fan thought to at the start of the year. It's like, Hey, if the Packers are going to go where they want to go, Jordan love has to play like an MVP. He did that yesterday and boy, that defense is just unreal. And a Patriots, are you worried about what's going on there or how do we feel about the squad from Foxboro that we thought was all the way bounced back and then a real opponent comes into town and smacks him around. Good thing. Bad thing, con man. I think good thing in the end. I'm not worried just yet. The Patriots have the most starters this season in the NFL. They lead the league in injuries. That's going to be tough. Every team deals with them though. So that's not an excuse, but no, I'm not worried just yet. This feels like the wake up call. You know, there's been games in the past the Jags week three where they lost 42 to seven and then it was like, you know what? This team stinks. And this was kind of exactly like that time mentioned, Jordan love played his best game possibly ever. And we had players who are supposed to be our five star guys, not play their best game ever. So not in any worry because for concern, just yet, and to your Brady point, I don't think Tom Brady really played a part in the Patriots being too nervous to go out there and play well. It is very clear now though that Tom Brady definitely doesn't want the Patriots to do well after his era, which I can understand and appreciate. You know, he's a competitor. Why is it so clear? You said, I mean, he takes some unnecessary shots. He gets very excited about the other team kind of doing well. And then I think once again, just go back to the Seattle part last year when you're playing the Super Bowl and you're kind of face of your team for 20 plus years says he doesn't have a dog in the fight. You kind of understand like, okay, this guy doesn't actually like the Patriots anymore, which is okay. I don't have a gripe with it. It is what it is, but you can't say you're a Patriot for life and forever and not like the team. Okay. Well, maybe he's just trying to be non-biased. He is an owner of another team. But he certainly had a lot of his life happen up there. So I would hope that the Pactors 45 points are the most allowed by the Patriots in a regular season game this century. Okay. So Patriots have a disappointing Sunday. Pactors have an enlightening one and one half of the hammer died. Cowboys, AP Tony's here, Tony will dive into something that is trying to hear in just a matter of moments. And then nine year NFL vet, host of everything, DB, GoodD, and also exo matchup on ESPN, the Ocho Ladies and Gentlemen. One of the smartest brains in Paul Darius J. Boler. I respect the NFL matchup. And also Ocho though. They will put that on there. I have a problem here. I'll take it. Debut, there was a lot of storylines coming out of yesterday. But I can't wait to get to our top five, top five, top five. Top five headlines coming out of week nine of the NFL Sunday driven by Ram. And if you're going to drive a truck, you need to be driving a ramp. The thing is strong enough to pull whatever you need, but also luxurious enough to make you feel like a king. You hit that gas pedal. There's only one sound you're going to hear. It adds a ramp. Let's hit the gas pedal into our top five, shall we? Number five, they are who we thought they were. Favorites go 13 and one straight up, 10 and 4 against the spread. If you count what the final spread was, we're talking about the Colts game. How they end up covering for the Dallas Cowboys. Now, if you think you know what football is at any point, that can, you know, kind of kick you square in the balls. You think you have it figured out, you start gambling, you know, responsibly, obviously. And then he gets smacked right in the face with reality that ball is not predictable. But going 13 and one as favorites this weekend, I would assume draft Kings got absolutely slaughtered. Congrats to us. You love that? Yeah. Congrats to us winning. If this is actually, you know, the weekend of doom that potentially was for draft Kings. Indeed, but I ask you this, do we know who these teams are now? 13 and one for the favorites is quite a chalky, straight up side of ball that this season has not delivered for us at all. But from Thursday, all the way through last night, favorites delivering in a big way. Are they who we think they are at this stage? Do we have this thing figured out? I think we always talk about mid-season form players, coaches, teams being at mid-season form. We're the middle of the season now. So now, yeah, we kind of got it figured out teams are making trades. We know who the buyers, who the sellers are, some teams are getting healthy. Obviously, it's football, some teams are dealing with injuries as well. But yeah, we know who they are. And I think probably more importantly, the sportsbooks knows who they are as well. And even to the over-unders, I think that was right down the middle as well. I think 50, 50, 77 and so far throughout the week. So yeah, everybody kind of pretty much has a beat on the NFL, but we know how it is. As soon as we think we got teams figured out, we get to next week and we have all these different upsets when you have these tighter lines. And for this week, this is a great week for the betters out there, especially if you have some survival leagues, any line of parlades, this is a phenomenal week for that. And one half of the hammer died Cowboys AP tone. Anytime the favorites are doing this type of stuff, that's good news for the public. We're here in Minnesota. We're getting the trade a little bit with draft kings as well. Awesome. We're in the trade market now, 3%, 4%, 6%, 16%, type bets were pieced together for, sorry, trades were pieced together for tonight. So what should we just expect us to continue now? What are the trends about this type of stuff happening right in the middle of a football season in the past? Yeah, I wouldn't expect it to continue this week when you looked at the board coming in. Like we kind of knew that the slate was one where it could be a favorites lead week because there was no spread under three points. There was four games hovering right around 10, double digits. So like coming into this week, we thought like, hey, there could be a lot of blowouts in this one. We're going 13 and one like they did if they go 14 and one if the bills went tonight. That'll be the third best week in the history of favorites ever in the NFL. So when you look at it, yeah, there was a, we could have say yes, we know these teams because they play, there was good teams versus a lot of bad teams. When we look at next week's slate, there's a lot of threes, there's a lot of three and a half. There's three or four one and a half. There's only one double digit so far. So I think next week we'll probably get back to a more even playing ground. But this week, man, when you don't have any upsets and everyone's put in their money line parlay together like, but he talked about earlier and there's not one upset. The book's got absolutely crush. Yeah. I had a couple of crowns and I'm going to let you know that feels good to see. It feels really good to see the crown, especially with what they've been doing to us all of the season. We need to hit our super boost going forward with one of the people. If you're out of age and in any state where draft Kings is available, whether it's sports gambling or the prediction markets, we'd love for you to come join us. Just you have to agree to be responsible if not an asshole. Can't ruin it for all of us. I love that we're in a trades market out here. Yeah. Something to learn about. Very easy to operate though. Yeah. Nothing better. What's wrong, Ty? No, nothing. I love trading. You know, I love it. You put together a nice little parlay and they let you know right away. You know, it's a little bit different when you see like. like, you know, plus 700, you feel pretty good. When you see that 3%, this is the percentage chance that you have. Exactly. So, you know, and then after you already put that in, they're basically telling you right away, hey, you're a moron, okay? That's not hidden. That's 3% here. Exactly. So, it's fun. It is fun. But I, you know, thank God we are in a state that lets you, you know, just gamble because I don't need to get my teeth kicked in right when I put the bed in. I'll wait until games are going to do that. Yeah, but also, I mean, when you see a plus 750, you're probably not going to hit it. Yeah. I'm always thinking that it's coming home. Yeah. I know that. They do look great. Yeah, plus 10,000. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. The seed like the implied probability of 3% is tough. It's tough. It's a lot different mind game as you're piecing that thing together because you do see a plus 750 and you think yourself, oh, I've hit one of these before. This is big. I've never had to look at 3%. Oh, I've never had to look at them saying, hey, this is all. Yeah, take it back. Take it back. Take it back. We appreciate draft Kings doing that. I believe there are some specials, obviously, as we get to the back half of the season with them, be responsible, please. Okay. If you're out of age, all we ask is that you be responsible and not an asshole and not ruin it for all of us. We all understand that sports gambling is going to be a part of our society, especially in sports going forward. We can set the tone on how it should be treated. There's going to be people that abuse it. We are very sorry for those people. You don't like that. Let's be responsible. Now on that note, if the favorites are going to start here, we're going to respond to maybe winning, I think. And I don't know if that's going to continue. The sports books are normally right with the wrong, especially when the faves are kicking ass. Okay, let's move to the number four headline coming out of week nine NFL Sunday defensive domination in special teams. Pretty special. Yeah. When you talk about the special teams, you know Dolphins Lines game yesterday, yeah, first game forever. Both teams had a executed fake point. Now that we are in the season now, middle of the season, needed to steal another possession. Absolute strike. K by Jack Fox. Just an absolute strike by Jack Fox. Lines will go on to win this game. Dolphins are who we thought they were to congrats to the lines doing that. But the Dolphins also cooking, little desperation. How you doing? Keep it moving. Fourth quarter. We need it. Want to move the pocket a little bit. Drop that thing in the bucket. Okay. Now could he hit him move the runner? Sure. Sure. Sure. I know that. But now we got Cairo Santos. It's a game winner for the Bears or thirty eight y'all to stroke that thing directly through. Kickers were hitting from fifty nine fifty two fifty one to one o'clock slate. Everybody's first drive ended with a field goal. First time in a long time. I hadn't been a touchdown basically in that first slate for like an hour and a half. It was just field goals. Field goals. Field goals. Punts pinning. Everything that was happening. Now there was also an 86 yard punt. Really? Oh, what? Yeah. Braden Man. Hidden 86 yard punt. Now he's a stud. He's an athlete. He's coming out of touch saying him. He was in his own end zone. It's only time you can hit a long ball is when your feet are in the paint. It's something that you absolutely remember Foxy, do we have it? We're looking for it. No, we don't have. Okay. Those are all the dice. We have two things that didn't make it over to the computer. We didn't know what they were. It was Braden Man's punt. And it's good news because he did follow that. Go work back there, Foxy. How are you? So anytime you're in the paint. That's the only time you're in the paint. And that's the only time you're in the paint. And when you're sitting in there, you do think to yourself like, okay, this is an opportunity for a big one. There's not a lot of times where you have this much grass in front of you. Braden Man, incredible athlete, strong leg, bombs this one. Okay. Now, in a thing that involves averages, the only thing you can't do, literally, the only thing you can't do after hitting an 86 yarder is to hit like a negative two yarder. Yeah. And he did that. Yeah, he did that. It wasn't really his fault. One to the side. It's at negative two yards. So 86 plus negative two's, 84, divide that by, that's a 42 yard average. That's just not right. That's a hard breaker. Not right. So that's special math, too. That's taking place in there. I appreciate him making a play. Obviously, got to look that one into hands are the most important part of punting because you're catching a ball every single time you go out there, slips through, goes through his right. I wish he would have just hit this left knee as opposed to trying to get a ball back, but nonetheless, 86 yarder. Let's talk about that. Now, let's get to the defense. Miles Garrett comes back. Yeah. Goes crazy. Has three sacks. Aaron Donald says, couple of those are our sacks. But everything we thought that they could maybe be, the turns out, they actually are together. Deba, what did you see from the Rams there? I mean, that's what they're going to need it, but this was the trade, the move that everybody talked about. This is why everybody thought, you know, the Rams would go undefeated and win a Super Bowl. This is a God reigning defensive player of the year, set the sacks record last year. So yeah, if he's healthy, Aaron Donald's healthy, Trent McDuffie, this defense can be dominant. They can't be special. And they're going to need to be because you have a potential injury, a pulka hanging over here with that defense, but this was a phenomenal performance. This is how you let your presence make your presence be felt immediately when you touch that field. This is a problem. Yeah. And the Rams, you know, this is what we were hoping that this defense could be. If Matthew, Miss Stafford Deba, go pulka, Nicole gets injured on the last point. Everybody that talked about this Rams team and saw the way they started, they're too in order to everybody that got on a microphone that has any football experience. Okay. Said, I got way too much talent on that roster to give up on them yet. Feels like that might be accurate. Need pulka, though, as we go forward, come, man. Yeah. Need pulka, also need Devonte back. I believe there are reports that he is progressing much better from the hamstring and he should be back earlier than the projected six to ten weeks. But if they do have a defense, that's going to be able to hold them on. You know, they can deal with a pulka injury, not season ending injury, but a pulka injury just like they have with Devonte, because you have Matt Stafford who makes everyone else better, but as long as the defense is playing like this, it might not even matter. C-Ox minus eight and a half was my bet on the dry race board at the Thunderdome for best bet of the weekend. The board is weak. It was good board. I think we did pretty well. There's something like that, depending upon how you judge and when it wrapped up, but yet C-Ox minus eight and a half against Cardinals felt like a lock after what happened to them against the Bears on Primetime, especially with what they're defense did. They held the Cardinals to 2.8 yards of carry, obviously only three points. Gardenamanshi, welcome back to absolute hell pal. This one felt pretty obvious, but they ended up getting four or three sex and only three points alive after having Kayla Williams and Chicago Bears do what they did to them. Almost felt automatic, even though we think Cardinals are a good football team time. Yeah, and we talked a lot about, you know, I mean, this is oftentimes what happens with these backup quarterbacks. You know, Gardenamanshi had that unbelievable game last week where he throws what three touchdown passes in the fourth quarter. It was kind of probably going to, you know, regress to the mean here, but I think the C-Ox also realize with the way they are this year with no Kenneth Walker and them still trying to kind of find their run game like their defense has to dominate like this if they want to go and repeat a Super Bowl champions because their offense just doesn't quite look the same. Yeah, obviously anytime they go out there, they're, you know, they're hunting big time. Yeah. And, you know, you start wondering if the heavy, heavy style offense in the heavy, heavy style defense might get to some three point games, might get to some 10, seven type games down the stretch here without dominant defenses are, especially with what the Vikings have been able to do. It's going to be on showcase tonight. If they can stop Josh Allen and keep moving, then the Giants, everybody's talking about J.J. McCarthy. He gets hurt devastatingly. Yeah. Very painful. And he had looked very painful on the sideline. He gets hurt on the field, goes over to test it or something. He goes inside. He was in pain. Then, James Winston goes out scores a touchdown. J.J. McCarthy gets something back in the back room. Comes back. Less of boys. No. Hey, I'm here. We're here. Let's go win this game. They do. Not a lot of people. Now watch. Hey, he's okay. He gets it off. Yeah, he gets it off. Yeah. And we just talked about Gardner Menshu. You know, having a good game. J.J. McCarthy now has to go back to back with the Giants, you know, after a by-week. It's like, how is J.J. and the Giants going to do it? Well, I'll tell you, if their defense is going to get seven sacks and only give up 11 points against the Eagles, it doesn't really matter what the offense does as long as it stays on schedule in scores points. Do we know this from this Giants defense? We impossible. What a dominating performance from this hardball. That was the expectation for this Giants defense, especially up front. Now, you're going draft. David Bailey has been phenomenal. He tried to rip off Patrick Mahomes arm yesterday. I don't know how Mahomes got back in the game and finished. But all of every is special. But what's the front red water people probably saying he's the best live backer in the league right now. What he's doing in coverage? What he's doing? Pressurized three sacks yesterday. I believe he's the favorite right now for the defense of rookie the year. He's, now you got to block this guy. Can't just leave him free to kill the quarterback, but yeah, he's doing his thing, tibito's doing his thing. Brian Burns is banged up. They got dogs all across their front line. He makes the secondary better as well. So the new DC over there, he's got these boys humming. That's what you're going to need when you have whatever's going on to their quarterback position. Another reason why hardball thing is the favorite for the coach of year right now. If you have a good defense this year, it's going to be more valuable than ever. Now what's that mean? Trenches need to be able to get home. Limebackers need to be able to stop the run and also get in coverage. You know, we want to a little bit of a hybrid style Limebacker that needs to be super fast and needs to be able to get side to side. Now they're going to have to be able to handle getting punched in the mouth as well. Hardball knows that that's football in a nutshell. It's going to the number three headline coming out of week nine NFL Sunday. This is a big one. We get it for the Bears. We did it for the Jags. Ladies and gentlemen, we might have seen the Boston cheese party come out for the Green Bay Packers saying, hey, we might be one of the top teams in the entire league. Nobody's talking about us. Jordan Love has what the fourth best odds for MVP. Who knows what it was going into the weekend, not a lot of love for him, not a lot of love for the floor, almost like everybody's waiting for them to stink. And I'm just talking about that from maybe how we have viewed the packers over the years is like at some point this is going to fall apart. Maybe not though Ty. That was a dominating performance. In Ganon's got a fire and has got on defense aside. They made Drake May look like very bad Drake May that we haven't seen in some time. Yeah and my initial plan was to come on here today and kind of just kill Ganon for no reason because this is the time of the year where him being a head coach is really going to start to heat up but you can't do that because he has just been so good. We talked about this a lot with the Bengals like hey is it sustainable to just have this type of offense and go win a Superbowl? I think the packers are a better version of the Bengals because their defense is unreal. So good. Jordan Love he was always going to have to to be like this and play an MVP season that that's kind of been every Packers fan you know that's what they've wanted is hey at times they still they don't really give them the keys completely they have this year he's throwing it down field more than anyone else in the NFL yesterday they rushed for over a hundred yards for the first time this season and I think they're the I just I think they're the most complete team in the NFC North and what is arguably not arguably what is it is the best division in the NFL so yeah I think the Packers are really starting to heat up and they're kind of hitting their stride right now right before Mike against Watson and gold in both go for over 150 yards gigantic or deal how do you stop them you talked about them being the Bengals T Higgins and Jamar Chase both went crazy yesterday and have gone crazy but if they get a run game donor they're going to be anywhere near touch what are your thoughts on the Packers I mean that's all of these always a question like you said this is going to be the question with the Bengals until somebody actually goes and wins one without a run game but there has been teams that have made runs down the stretch and how do you stop them I mean that's the that's the billion dollar question right now these guys are special and their numbers would be ten times better if they actually caught the ball at the rate that they can but Jordan love and Matt LaFlora I love how aggressive that he he's been all year long like spread started with that bear's game I did the sit rep on Jordan love just taking shots down and feel first down they were up three possessions game still taking shots down the field Christian Gonzalez one of the best corners of the league he just didn't have a good day but Jordan love he's going to find the guys for opening he's going to hit him who's that right there maybe on Williams yeah he he can dance dance I think he can yeah like obviously he's very good football he had a hell of a day and that's a good spot to be well Watson and golden being a third option Tucker Kraft hopefully you know that gets rolling in a bigger way he can actually dance so I think this guy actual like certified dance I was watching this celebration then we did the pool thing I'm like this guy I think he actual yeah have a player you have a lever that got might be one of the best dancers in a league I don't want to put everything out there because you see some celebrations looks like there is a bit of rhythm but maybe not as much fluidity oh buddy here might be five dancers in a league I'm not 100% sure and he's going to be seeing the pain especially as they try to get rid of Watson and golden yeah right tone you have something on the pack yeah if you like the packers there's definitely some betting opportunities right now they are fourth in the division to win the division at plus seven 20 so yeah there are a couple of games behind the Vikings Vikings have a huge one tonight that could get them to two losses so the packers would be only one game behind in the lost column in the division they're plus seven 20 which is the worst odds in the NFC north to win the division and then they're not even in the top 12 to win the Super Bowl so if you like the packers if you think you know with mica coming back the defense is only going to get better and you know as the offensive line with a ton of injuries starts to gel again and maybe they do get a bit of a more of a run game if you like the packers you can definitely get some good odds on them to win the Super Bowl or the division right now do you like the packers ring out con man after you watch him doing the Foxboro pal I mean it's hard to argue the packers are on the best team of the freaking league the fact that the packers ran for over a hundred yards I think is why it is so loud in New England right now because the Patriots have one of the better run defenses in the entire NFL and for the packers who have the worst run offense in the NFL coming by a mile for them to come into your house and do that to you yeah I'm pretty high on the frickin packer yeah and you know the the story of defenses this year once again don't want to just talk about too much about being here is blitz blitz blitz blitz bringing a lot of pressure well he has been inside said the blitz never bothered love any way love that see this I love that I'm going to have a hundred seventy yards one fifty five plus pass rushers on Sunday so you bring it against love he'll do that fade away shit he has he's been doing it since the beginning yes and there's been a couple times where it's going into a defensive team meeting and you think to yourself hey you can't do that dude now we're at the stage of feels like his that might be one of his best it is when he's fading backwards and then fishing in zealous his normally phenomenal coverage is phenomenal coverage but Watson some that balls coming right down out it's uncoverable it's like the Russell Wilson moonshot but he's fading away while doing it it is he's hoping out there yeah Jordan love is hoping out there in real time yeah big time and I don't know if like his arm has maybe gotten stronger I think it has but a couple of those like on these deep balls it's like oh man it looks like he's going he's thrown at 15 yards short and it is just right in a bucket and yeah I mean Matthew golden deep up mentioned that he's had a bunch of drops Christian Watson finally being the guy who they expected him to be when they drafted him like you know he's he's about to have what and he's almost got a thousand yards already and like his big thing has been he can't stay healthy but you see what he can do when he is healthy he's one of the best yourself the NFL yeah that arm strength is one thing but Fox if you go back that last throw like that back shoulder like that ball placement right there having a cornerback outside you're intentionally putting in back shoulder and then Watson adjusting and making that catch like that's when you're playing really really really high level football and think about it every time you go back to his tape I know it's like four or five throws that he would like to have back like their completion but probably could have been touchdowns if he threw him differently so I know he's looking at that so it's still a room to grow so those numbers like that you gave plus 720 to win the division yeah there and with this this offensive potency and in the defense not only being able to get out the quarterback or Micah gets back but how they turn teams over like Evan Williams and McKinney probably the best safety tandem in the league right now and then you're getting Micah yep yeah which whenever Michael was playing with them last year's whenever they were playing their best ball whenever Micah got hurt they were terrible so the fact that they're good at ball right now while getting and adding an old pro piece potentially that's an absurd thing to think about a plus 720 maybe responsibly on that one and it's not even close the bears are plus 160 Vikings are plus 210 lions plus 280 and then there's the jump to plus 720 for the packers to win the division how bears though look at me yeah what's the tie breaker situation is that why I maybe but I'm the Packers have already beat the bears I mean it'll come down to late in the season but you know if Caleb keeps throwing four picks you know I mean I feel pretty good oh come on he's gonna say last week I'm just saying I will I still can win no win I was watching that last night some big big win for the bears Jeffrey Simmons immediately he's so good DeForest Bunker 2 I don't know if you saw you get injured last in San Francisco nice they even play for the goals he does he doesn't even want to remember it no no Caleb got asked about his four picks immediately after the the game who's that over there yeah no no Sunday night it's star oh in the field somebody should get it we got to get to try yeah I know we will knock out one second further before we can't well the show will continue to happen who do who is Melissa Stark okay I should have won with it I knew a star if you go back and listen to my mouth I said start Melissa Stark though goes four interceptions right to Caleb right after the game you just win this game and I was like whoa okay Melissa Stark I appreciate you doing that he was like in high school I think I threw three interceptions one time college I threw three interceptions one time so this is just one one time what happens I'm like what an answer out of Caleb immediately after a game because you know he is fuming yeah even if you win the game obviously you're happy but he put his team in some jeopardy oh yeah and Tampa Bay Buccaneer's defense once again phenomenal stuff they won a couple games just without throwing the ball and beggard didn't look terrible in a couple the I mean that NFC South is a hilarious conversation as always for the in total but the bears winning while not playing anywhere near their best ball I think is more dangerous than ever in the way Caleb handled the four picks I think was a big deal now to your point though Packers bears win uh yeah I think yeah around there so and and obviously the the Packers starts from the first time when Caleb wasn't playing so um hopefully that gets flexed I don't know when it is I once again remember flexing is a good thing yeah not a bad one the bears one yeah it's at noon on Netflix on Christmas day oh yeah okay I can't wait I don't love that that's alright Christmas what do you mean yeah it'll be the best gift ever no yeah I understand but that that need that's a Sunday night football game I understand Christmas is a big deal let's throw it to Netflix sure that's great that that is a Sunday night football game or or a Monday night football thank you have a crisis you know you're gonna have a bird christre there think about that no thanks I mean maybe I mean bird might be there the entire Netflix for I mean what does Netflix look like going forward after the big you know what it's gonna look like pretty big sweeping changes they may Seth Freaking's gonna be hosting and he's gonna be pounding the bears drum the entire all we is you're right that's a great Seth Freaking Rollins definitely gonna be there yeah I think he's been good for ball yeah you don't like the I like the noon Packers but I like it person it is it actually one sorry it's one I think yeah we're not here for god's it normal one o'clock start hey Gumpy is losers not used to being on a road is it like I'm bro I'm your double I'll tell you this this particular trip uh this particular season has been a lot of pacific time central time not a lot of eastern time at home in eastern time trying to figure out when is when and what is what has been quite an obstacle but what a football tour here week nine bills Josh Allen instead of Vikings we're on the call on ESPN 2 that's crazy let's go to the number two headline coming out this weekend now normally we keep it all NFL - Okay, 'cause this is an NFL top five, top five, top five. Have to tip the hat to what college football has been doing. We all looked at November 7th as the Saturday in college football. Separation Saturday, Reese Davis, deemed it a college game day open. I thought that was a brilliant way to describe it. Who we thought was who we thought comes in and maybe is completely not. And then the teams that we had a little bit of hope for, I think cemented a conversation case that yeah, they are probably gonna be around in the end. We absolutely love that Notre Dame got a huge one at home there. Must win for them. - Yeah, must win. - Not a must win for Miami. No, must win for Notre Dame. I felt like that was probably gonna happen, okay? That's why I was picking Miami. Basically, most of that show, you hear the way I'm talking. On Miami, Miami, Miami. And then as it's sort of kind of settling in and you're talking to some people that are side-stage, that are associated with Notre Dame maybe. And you see Pete Pavakwa, and he's like I haven't slept in like two days, yeah. It's like, oh, okay, this is a massive importance here around here, everybody felt the urgency. Everybody was all in, felt like that was a nice case for a win. It felt like you can experience that type of stuff in college football more than any other sport where you can kind of get a handle on how the vibes are. Notre Dame was special. That was really cool to be a part of. Very thankful for them. Now, in real time, I thought that got caught that ball. - Yeah, that looked like it. - I mean, I thought that was a touchdown. You ask me multiple times, live in real time, I'm there. With Gumpy, obviously, it's like that's a touchdown. It feels like that's a touchdown there. Instead, you got to complete the catch, you got to do an athletic move. We're in year 2026. We still don't 100% know. I mean, it felt like if he was on a sideline there and it wasn't a touchdown, are they calling that a catch? Whatever the case. Chris, Chris, the ball and the boys are pissed. I guess by the letter of the law, you could say that's not a catch. But I think others who actually have to enforce said letters of law said that is a catch. So this is football and a nutshell. Game was awesome. Shout to Miami, showing massive fight there without Malachite Tony going into a very hostile environment. But Notre Dame gets a win that they've been waiting for since popped our ball last year. - Yes. - I mean, that was a ticket punching operation there. And it was very, very, very surreal to be there in real time as it was happening. Shout to everybody for the hospitality. But it wasn't just Notre Dame. I mean, Georgia says, hi, we're the best team in ball. What about your defense? - Ole Miss and Trinidad have not really lost at home. Ole Miss, tough place to play. Gunner Stockton comes in, their defense dominates. And that's too huge. They beat Bama in Bama. They go into Ole Miss beat Ole Miss. It's like Georgia, and I picked against them. I thought Ole Miss was gonna win. I thought Gunner Stockton and their boys weren't able to be consistent enough. Who had they really beat? Well, they beat Bama. What do I think about Bama? Well, I just picked LSU to beat Bama. It's like, yeah, right. Bama pounded LSU too. It's like these teams that we have a glimmer of hope for. I think on Saturday, a huge hammer came through and said, you should really like a few of these squads. Tone, is that how you saw it this Saturday? Or what are your thoughts on how everything should Tennessee? - Yep. - I mean, what they did to Will Stein and Kentucky, we hadn't seen. I broke down an entire film about, he's eligible, he's ineligible. Will Stein is drawing up wide open place. And his Tennessee defense said, I don't think so. Indomiting them and kneeling in front of a blackout, which I don't think I knew was happening down there whenever I was making this pick. But there were some teams across the board that said, hey, we're for real. And then there were some teams that said, hey, we're not dead either, Tone, which is a huge part of the college football weekend. - Yeah, I mean, it was called separation Saturday for a reason because everyone did separate themselves a bit. Yeah, Tennessee here, the number one SAC team in the country now, they lost Weathersby for the season, which will be tough for them. But they can play defense, they can run the football, which is always going to travel. Speaking of playing defense and running the football, UCLA went on the road and won a big one. It's hard to see them not making the play off now, unless they totally collapse. Deepenbach threw a bunch of deep balls. They played their top 10 and run defense and running the ball. They kind of separated themselves in this situation. Iowa did the same thing going on the road to Northwestern. You know, hey, Brian, I think is finally, you know, kind of settling into the offense. Tony Diaz is an absolute animal. But when you look at it, like there was a lot of blowouts in these situations, which is truly like, Bama put it to LSU. Like Bama looked really, really good. Everyone was questioning them about the number five seed. They went on the road, put it on. I'm Keeling Russell's one of the best in the country. And having Ryan Coleman Williams back is absurd. There was a lot of great games on Saturday in Utah, beating BYU to start today in an unbelievable game. Like that was just, it was a great Saturday. There was a lot of teams. We'll see you in the rankings tomorrow that separated themselves in this situation. Yeah, CFP's second rankings come out tomorrow night. We will be talking to executive chair of the college football playoff committee. Lieutenant General Clark will be joining us at 105 tomorrow. Hell yeah. All right, so let's get all our questions ready. You got to already take it over. Hey, 105 tomorrow. I believe they'll be in the middle of making the selections at that particular point for tomorrow night. But I don't know how they're going to figure out who's who. And maybe they just judge off of what happened this weekend, saying these are the real teams. And then that means you got to talk about Oregon in a huge way. Offensive coordinator for Oregon right now, Jay Johnson. That was fired from Wyoming last year, because he stunk as an offensive coordinator. Wyoming is guy got fired in the middle of the season. And last year as an offensive coordinator, Wyoming, get this guy the hell out of here. Can't do it. Goes the Oregon is like quarterback coach or whatever. They fire offense coordinator. He's now off it. They handle Ohio State to the right. All the place is best game. He's played as a college football player by far. I mean, it's Oregon not dead. Have a path to the big 10 championship. Have a path into the college football playoff. And we definitely wrote them off with how asked they were. That's the beginning of the season. Joining us now is a man who might have a thought on what Oregon did and how they did it. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ohio State Buckeye legend in here. AJ Hawke. [APPLAUSE] Hawkeau, how you doing? I'm doing pretty good. Obviously, not the outcome we wanted here in Columbus. That's for sure. Yeah, I'd say not the outcome you're looking for or wanted. But not the outcome any of us predicted, brother. That was Ohio State's first home game in a long time. Oregon had been beat up. Ryola had not had much success as a quarterback for Oregon or for Nebraska, and this entire thing. Oregon team, all those guys could have quit. They're all making a bunch of money. They all could have said, hey, you know what? We're opting into next year, as opposed to this year. They used to have everything in front of them. But we thought they had no chance to get it without bad asserting them for the Ohio State. Buckeye's, we assume Mapatrice is going to cook Ryola. We assume already Smith's going to be able to figure out how to use true freshman in Fahey and get about Jeremiah Smith. And instead, all we see is Bruce the Buckeye walking out of that game early. I went on the entire team, AJ. It was a surprise for all of us what happened. I could imagine how Ohio State Buckeye fans are feeling on this day actually, AJ. Yeah, I'd say it's the dobers down for the majority of the Ohio State fan base right now. I guess technically we're not 100% out of it. There is a slight chance they could make the playoffs. So obviously they need some help from some other teams and have to win the last three. But yeah, going up 14, nothing the first quarter and then seeing how the first half ended for anyone that watched this thing. Like it was a brutal ending of the first half for Ohio State. This fake punt was kind of what flipped the game. I think a great execution by these guys, to be honest with you. What a throw in a jump pass and completing that and everything. Like credit to Oregon for that. But yeah, Ohio State is trying to figure out, I guess, where they go from here right now. Did you conveniently didn't talk about Brutus exiting stage left? Yeah, I assume it was a medical emergency or something. Brutus wouldn't just take off like this. I don't know. It's okay. Look. Maybe a dead end. That's not a possess and that swing literally did bushwackers walk the hell out of it. No. Yeah, I don't. That's not a poop walk. No, that's confident. I'm out of here. That's a this stinks walk. This is a $50 million dollar. I saw another loss 10 first rounded up the defense last year. But I mean, come on. Offensively you got it back up quarterback. Defensively what's going on? Have you talked to Bobby Carpenter? No, I have not gotten the chance to talk to Bobby yet about it. I know he'll get the boys all all squared away. But yeah, I don't know, but to be honest with you, I mean, that's the thing the last couple games give up a ton of points. This Ohio State defense. We know the great players they lost, but I don't know. It's one of those things like I've said before, hey, when it rains and pours, it's like everything that could go wrong continues to go wrong in a game like this and Oregon just really, really put it to him and it was it was a tough one to watch. No question. Man, you go back to that Texas game. They give that one away. Just completely give that one away. Now you have three losses. And it's like, is that not Julian saying? Yeah, Julian saying might be a really good player. Tandle good, a really good leader and everything like that. AJ, we talked about the first four, the top five college football being one of them. Your Packers have made the conversation a couple different times. How do you feel about this gaining defense? That's got to really get you a little maybe zipper burn because they're everywhere. And Micah still has yet to join them, pal. Yeah, it's great to see like when you don't have a guy that can change the game for every, like, change the game plan for every offense you face. Like Micah isn't even in there yet in the fact that like these guys held their plan. I mean, Drake May obviously was being harassed all night. The the back end plays very, very well. And I mean, the defense is also a Jordan love. How fun is it to watch this guy push the ball down the field? Like he's not dinkin and dunkin. And he's also like, he's very, he's very athletic too. His weird arm angles he throws from like different platforms. He definitely has a little Aaron Rodgers in with his footwork and everything he does. It's cool to see, but yeah, Packers are playing well when it matters the most, I think. And there was times early in the season, I think some people might have written this team off. I think they're just starting to hit their stride. You know, you draft a wide receiver in the first round, there's, there's a little subtle differences between those guys and everybody else. What is Golden done to that offense with him and love getting on the same page? Yeah, he just, I mean, he early on. especially when Christian Watts, like he was kind of, he was the target that, you know, he, he really needed to go to him. And, and that's the one thing. Jordan Love, I mentioned it earlier, Golden has had a bunch of drops this year, but Jordan Love has confidence into him. Just, he continues to go back to him. And then you see, like he's a burner. He can get behind your defense at any time, him and Golden on, or I mean, excuse me, him and Watson on the field at the same time. Like, I don't know how teams cover him. It's kind of like a pick your poison situation. So, yeah, I mean, a lot of people had stuff to say about him last year because the production wasn't really there. And he played great in the playoffs against the Bears. And then now this year, you're kind of seeing, oh, yeah, this guy was a first round pick for a reason. He's unbelievable. Do you guys have a one left or no, because Micah? No. I was about to say, you guys get a running back over there, AJ. You know, we got one late, right? We got two left. Caleb Johnson. Actually, I actually plan for real. At his first career touchdown yesterday. He's probably going to start getting fed a little bit. Still a legend. Yeah, we did love it. In Pittsburgh, he was fantastic every once in a while. Now for the Green Bay Packers going to have to be a pretty key park down the stretch. AJ, you talked about Jordan love throwing it deep. I was told if you can't run the ball, I can't throw a deep. Then I see Joe Burrow and Green Bay Packers spinning it all over the yard. Do we think we are in the middle of a transition of defenses right now where shots might be taking a little bit more? Yeah, I mean, I think so. I think when you have quarterbacks that are, you know, a cut above some of the other quarterbacks in the NFL, they have like pinpoint accuracy in their timing. Like when you watch Joe Burrow through the guy, he is just absolutely in the zone. Look at that right there. And like when how quick they get rid of the ball and how decisive they are, too, is what has been impressive to me for guys like Joe Burrow and in love. Like it's and when he have some dynamic playmaker makers on the outside, I would say that helps a little bit. Yeah, Watson and Golden Higgins and Chase, Chase made some absurd catches felt like he and we should have known Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase in Spain. Yeah, they love Spain. Yeah, they're international lives. Yeah, celebrations planned the Matador and then Burrow doing whatever this thing was. Yeah, and then yeah, yeah, what was that thing? Soccer players. I don't know. I think it might have been demonic. What? What? Yeah, Tony. Tony, I don't think that's the bulls horns. We got a big match up on Sunday night. It's not because that's this because T Higgins did the bulls horns. Yeah, but that's a different stop type of bull. Yeah, those are the bulls and pants. Maybe it's like a rocky and bull wankle type thing. But I mean, there's a lot of things that could be we have no idea, but we do know it's them celebrating a lot in Spain, which we could have expected. But the conversation continues to be, can you win the games like this? Okay, is this how you're going to be able to win a Super Bowl? There's a multiple people now that have come out and said, you know what? The bangles will be the ones that do it. None of us in football have ever thought to be able to be capable of, but they continue to do it. I think they're only proving everybody's point like, yeah, this might be a little bit different. And the Cincinnati Bangles shot to them duken them over there. They built this theme saying, this is how we're going to do it. And everybody said, you can't win that way, including us. We got, I don't know. I've been around 39 years for as long as I have memories. Now I grew up in Pittsburgh, so it's a little different, but you got to be able to run the ball. I mean, you have to be able to run the ball whenever it matters. And then people start saying that a bangles action might be able to do without it. It does feel like every week you watch it's like, well, who the fuck is going to stop these guys? I have no idea, unless you get pressure on the quarterback. Like AJ said, and like you just said, the philosophy starts from the top. How are we going to build this team? What guys are we going to pay? And if you have the players and you put them in position to succeed, like you have two franchise quarterbacks getting paid, you know, 50 million plus. You have two elite wide receivers and then two groups are really elite wide receivers, right? Two first round picks. And I believe two second round picks of Watson and T Higgins were both second round picks, but they're both number ones on this level. So as a defense, you got to come in. AJ knows on wins that we say, okay, these guys are the game records. Let's take away these guys, but apparently defenses aren't able to take them away. And when these quarterbacks can process and say, okay, where are you putting your extra guy? I'm going to the other guy. Then if you're going to blitz, okay, that's one more match up for my third guy. Maybe that's Kaseki. Maybe that's Williams. And these guys are accurate throwing the ball. Now playoff football. You're going to be dealing with elements. These are two outdoor teams. So let's say they have home field advantage that may play against you in this situation. But I mean, we should see the Packers. I think earn a much better situation. The sports book don't agree with it. But when Michael coming back, the defense, how much how well they play, how how much they turn you over on the defense side of the ball. I mean, that's why I would lean if one if I had to pick out of one of these teams, but both of these quarterbacks are playing at MVP level. Fun to watch too. Shout to Spain getting that. And Joe and Jamar, a great international faces of football. So as it was just like whenever Aaron goes overseas, let's assume Aaron's going to do well. Okay, he wants to be revered as an international guy. Yeah. Yeah. And a mystery. And I believe, I don't know what's that. What? What we get said. I think a significant other is, right? An international loss. And right? Yeah. So we'd like to do well whenever you travel over there. It's like Joe and Jamar do a lot of international travel in the off season. It's nice to get wins in front of the people that you're going to see in the off season. We got to think about those things with these international games. Who's going to want to be internationally respected more? Joe Burle and Jamar Chase were certainly at the top. Another guy too. Nobody's for Trevor Lawrence. Like playing a bunch of international games of heat. I don't know what it's he top five in MVP race. Yes, he's playing unbelievable. Their defense plan unbelievable. And they just got better. So and Trevor certainly, I mean, he hasn't yet, but he could be walking in those fashion weeks with that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That hair. That hair. That jawline. He loves to ball too much. He's very good at football. Yeah, William Cohen unbelievable. Let's get to the number one headline. Shall we? AJ, you're going to love this one. It's a massive one tonight. Obviously, that's a huge deal. Yes, yes, yes. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're on trade deadline Eve here. We are deadline dancing. Tonight's game has massive implications on the deadline. I think Carson Wednesdays plays good. Carson Wednesdays potentially has this job here in Minnesota. Congratulations. You're on a one-lost team heading into the back half of the season. You can maybe win the Super Bowl this year way to go, Carson. Carson doesn't play well in the Buffalo bills led by Jim Leonard and the boys have the best night of their lives or whatever the cases or play very well. Then all of a sudden, it's like by four o'clock tomorrow or the Minnesota Vikings trading for a starting quarterback. If you trade for a starting quarterback, that obviously has huge ramifications at the place that the other place where the other quarterback was at. So there's a lot on the line tonight. There's also a lot on the line across the board. AJ, let's start with Monday night being a gigantic ordeal. I don't know if you know this. Favorites went crazy. I did well. Okay, this is the best weekend I've done picking NFL games. I went 10 and three or something like that. Hell yeah. Yeah, I mean favorites win. I'm pretty simple animal. I'm pretty simple creature. AJ, I do get the win over you this week. So if you want to do one last ceremonial pick for tonight's game, bills favored by three here in Minnesota, 44 and a half over under. Who do you like? How do you like, AJ? You know how I feel about this Buffalo bills team. I've been on their bandwagon since last year, really. I love the Vikings defense and what they do. I'm curious to see how Carson wins plays, but give me the Buffalo bills on the road tonight. Okay, I like that. AJ, we love your brother. We'll see you tomorrow. Tell the people in Columbus. It's going to be okay. Maybe not. Ryan Day, right back in the hot seas. Oh, yeah. Just want a national championship. Remember Michigan game day lose 24/7 police presence at his house. Ohio says get this guy the hell out of here. He wins national championship. Oh, Ryan Day's got a job for life here. Just like those of the past, Tressel, Urban Meyer. Go all the way back. He won a national championship. Had Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel come now saying it's the best roster of all states ever had. That was great. Jay's Louise. If we had this roster, I mean, 10 straight national championship. Kind of how it was being chatted about with Ryan Day. He wins a national championship, checks the box. Everybody thinks he's all right. Last year, they almost go on a run. They don't. Oh, no. What's going to happen? This year lose three games. Still got some left. Is this guy the right guy to be a buck guy's head coach? It's crazy. Oh, yeah. College football is the craziest world of all time. And Ryan Day's just got to live in that. And already Smith won from the NFL to sign up to get into that. And I don't know if they like him too. I don't wait. I bet you they don't. That's tough. You got to really love the pressure cooker. If you want to go take one of these jobs. Like love. What about laying down an LSU? Oh, man. But he had all these. They bring men to win the big games. No, they brought him in to walk. They brought him in for swag. He actually has never won a big game. He's won a lot of things right now. Hold on. Kevin Costner was there too. Everybody's in the tightest white pants you have a scene. Yeah, for good reason. You know, he's been up to. He's been clearly on the treadmill. They cow-witting him. Didn't don't wish he would have stayed in Salt Lake City or retired. That's one other in Salt Lake City. Hey, that Utah team now without cow-witting him. Yeah. Uh-oh. They appears to help this guy do. All right. Let's go. Let's move along. Let's get back to the NFL tonight. Monday night football wraps up week nine of the NFL season and then tomorrow when we wake up. Holy hell, brand new league can be taking place. Is Jonathan Taylor or Colt? Is Daniel Jones a Colt? How about Josh Donts? Then we know Jesse Bates was available in the trade deadline that Jacksonville Jaguars get JB three this morning. Joining us now is a man who knows it all. Senior NFL insider for ESPN and NFL Network Adam Schefter. Hey, how are you? I just punched the hell out of this desk. I don't know if you want to give an update. Cracked middle finger knuckle. life is good here. This stadium is beautiful. I assume you've been here before. It is gorgeous. You know, this isn't This isn't glass. It's ETFE or something like that. Oh, okay fiber. Yeah, so let's It lets obviously a daylight and a sunlight into here, but with the sloped inside the snow Whatever it comes is able to fall it off So you feel like you're outside, but you're actually inside because Minnesota can get the dash 20 dash 30 is big John would say Everyone's while it gets a little chilly out here. This place is gorgeous Sheffield tonight Monday night football. We'll talk about updates for that at the end of this, but let's do Tomorrow. Hey trade deadline is finally got here. We've been talking about it for weeks. There's been moves happening quarterbacks Had been traded obviously Jacobi ends up at Baltimore. JJ McCarthy out of here to the New York Giants We've had d-line been traded for two ones and a four another one traded for just a four and then this morning We had Jesse Bates traded from the Atlanta Falcons to the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's a gigantic star-studded blockbuster move For the Jags anything else we're expecting today or is everything gonna get pushed off until tomorrow? Shafty well, let me say this Pat again I know everybody wants big moves and big trades and each of the last two years We had 18 trades from basically October 1st to the trade deadline right now. We're on nine But I want to give you the nine names because I think that they're interesting and notable have been traded before we go on to the players to watch We have Jesse Bates today Jacobi percent last week Jeffrey Simmons DeForest Buckner, Quentin Nelson, Marvin Harrison, Cam Jurgen, Joy Porter, Jr., JJ McCarthy Like that is a star-studded list that is one two three four five Six by my count at least six players who are first-round picks at one point time some players who will go to the Hall of Fame There have been nine trades made already since September Now now is where I think it gets interesting um You can put up those names of players to watch again right now Josh Downs the cults have an offer of at least a four for him right now I don't know why they wouldn't move him at this point in time Jonathan Taylor is a really interesting one Because they could try to put the genie back in the bottle and delay that until the all season To try to trade them, but there's been so much discussion and there have been teams that have expressed interest But it has not been the offer that the cults wanted Can you realistically I guess you can you could bring them back on on Wednesday? Yeah, we're gonna need a one I and I'm not talking for the building the building is not asked me for any advice I don't love that the building has the same person working on Building the building that was a part of Putting the building in the spot that it's in right now But I do have faith in others that are in that building and have been in that building for a long time If they're being listened to that'll be interesting, but I have faith that Carly be able to figure that out There's no way we're trading Jonathan Taylor without a one especially with everything that's coming out about Jesse Bates What he just gets traded for right there the four is bucking one for a four Okay a four The next day Same position two ones and a four literally the next day put a halt to some things here by say What is anybody worth if this is the case we need a one for Jonathan Taylor that that's the most obvious thing I would assume is happening behind closed doors heard the giants offered a second and a fifth Is that what they offered for Jeffrey Simmons whenever John Harbock called owner of Tennessee Titans They said hey, this is all we got in this entire thing. I don't know, but gonna need a one chef. These are you need to I would guess we're gonna need a one Giants up for two or five in a player. I don't know the player, but it was a two or five in a player for Jonathan Taylor and they said no But I need a one bro that that is we don't have a one like that is very obvious what we need and I know everybody's doing the Christian McCaffrey comp and all that other stuff It's like were they in a position where they didn't have a one and they might be the second overall pick at the end of the year Arning all this crap for the jets that's happening right now. Yeah, I don't know So I would assume that's what the culture waiting on that would be gigantic now Colts also told Daniel Jones allegedly that they would not be trading him. Is that a lot of dependent upon what happens tonight? I I think that's the plan that they don't want to trade him And again, what's interesting whether it's Daniel Jones Jonathan Taylor you pick the player any team Like there are a lot of teams saying we're not gonna trade this guy. We're not gonna trade that guy and and most Most of them are gonna be right like they're not planning to trade them The question is you know the Titans were planning to trade every Simmons and then they did So what happens if and when a team steps up and all of a sudden makes an offer for one of these players that they can't turn down If that happens right like Brian Thomas right now jaguars don't plan to trade him. They don't plan to trade him Is there going to be a team that steps up here and the next 24 plus hours and says hey, uh, we're gonna give you something that you can't say no to Um, it doesn't sound Like that right now, but we haven't till tomorrow the chargers have told everybody whoever calls we're not trading our guys You know, we we want to try to keep winning. They haven't won a game yet I you know, I don't understand with a player like Cleal Mac. He's on an expires country They love him as a guy a leader. Oh, I get all that But at oh and eight while we could not take back A nice pick for that guy and let him go finish season on a team that's gonna compete for a suit like that And so they've been adamant on that stand so alone. Are they gonna change that between now and tomorrow? Doesn't it hasn't sounded like that, but maybe a team can change their mind Buddha Baker Some more thing cardinals don't want to trade them been a great player for so long like I'd love to see that guy You know finish his Career or this season with a playoff contender with a chance to go and make some playoff noise jets keep telling everybody. We're not trading breeze hall Um, Josh sweat maybe we'll take the right offer jadevin clownie you go get if you want Uh, that that that's the deal now again. You mentioned you hadn't heard anything about Jesse baits And so that that's the interesting part two like doesn't name come out of nowhere that people weren't expecting Um, that could happen to It's and I remember at this time last year going to Monday. I'm thinking okay. Well We may get Jacobi Myers traded tomorrow when he was traded to from the Raiders to to Jacksonville um And then all of a sudden in the afternoon and you remember I was driving up to Bristol and hit me on the phone and then I was that was a drive that I won't forget in my life like it was Overwhelming and so we are we gonna get that tomorrow I don't think so right now. I don't think so, but I didn't think that last year Yeah, you know, I'd never know and then and Jesse Bates comes out and know where there could be teams operating Out of the insiders world, which would be wild because the amount of agents involved teams involved new homes involved Even travel plans what type of business and what part of the company that leads to a lot of potential chance for leaks Ian rap part reported that will make donald the fourth who's informed the team that he wants to be traded So say McDonald has played sparingly this season is extremely frustrated with his usage the former first rounder once more opportunities In the team is aware good luck to will make donald Let's talk about another guy who might be frustrated with his opportunities And could be quite a weapon for a lot of teams that are looking for wide receiver Town digs has a question for you chef. Yeah chef day a lot of the trade talk feels like it's a round Expiring contracts, and I believe a franchise tag would be in an inspiring contract So I wanted to ask about George pickens who did not play yesterday due to injury You know, they've talked about not extending him during the season at all They have other high-played players is is George I haven't seen him on any lists or anything like that you've put out or any stories But is George pickens someone that could definitely get traded maybe potentially tomorrow or today? He has a hamstring injury. I mean, that is a real deal and I am not expecting him to get traded now again I wasn't expecting Quinn and Williams and saw a scordon would be traded last year They were so I recognize there are no absolutes at this time of the year anything's always possible But having asked about George pickens. I have never gotten any indication That he is being shopped or traded or anything's happening there. We'll see if that is a bluff But I I believe that he'll be in Dallas at 401 Eastern Tuesday afternoon. All right 401 Eastern There's another name that just popped on after some struggles. Go ahead Con man Yeah, Shafty pass talking about Derek Henry was pretty loud after they lost and kind of got crushed on Thursday night football And he seemingly is one of those guys that could be moved like a Jonathan Taylor What is the latest there? Is there anything there? Are they definitely going to keep him and he's not going to Reunite with either the giant or the Patriots because of the connections to a Derek Henry as far as variable and hardball There have been multiple teams that have reached out to the Ravens. There were multiple teams that reached out to the Ravens even this weekend Asking if there was a way to pry loose Derek Henry every one of the teams that called I was informed we're not trading the guy now again Just one of them come back and say okay. We're going to give you this offer and both were saying oh hold on You're going to give us what and then they reconsider again. I guess that always could happen But that's not what I'm expecting. That's not what I've been told I've been told Baltimore has no intention of trading Derek Henry I think they've conveyed that message to him and they've told him that he's not going to be traded I'm not looking for Baltimore to deal Derek Henry. I'm not looking for the jets to deal Breezole. I'm not looking for the Eagles to deal secure on Barclay Now does anybody offer something to change them? I'm like there have been teams have called around on running backs So maybe one of them steps up and off for the last moment. I'll tell you what Tampa Bay might win the NFC South You need a running back that you think you can win a Super Bowl with You're calling for Bucky Irving immediately. - He's good. - Off limits. - Unbelievable. Obviously he's off limits. Just like DeForest Buckner was off limits. Quentin Nelson was off limit. - Available. - For not a lot in comparison to what everybody else is. - Right in contrast. - Let's talk about a wide receiver that got injured yesterday. And obviously it's a huge piece of the puzzle in Los Angeles. Go ahead, Deebo. - Yeah, it's on my off-pro pulg in the cool. Obviously he's a huge, huge part of that Rams office. He got an injury. I know he was getting an MRI. Any update on that situation. - I was told it's not as ACL. He's gonna have the MRI today. They felt pretty good about that. But he was limping. And so there is some sort of injury to the knee. They'll determine exactly what that is today. And obviously, you know, they lost Davante Adams. And on Friday, they thought they were getting back Terence Ferguson this week in the tight end. And he heard his hamstring on a route. Like a couple of weeks minimum on Terence Ferguson. So if they were to lose in the Kua now, they're gonna be a little bit light there at receiver for the next couple of weeks here until they can get back or Davante or Ferguson. But yeah, it sounds like Puka will see with the test. Hopefully it's not bad. - Yeah, hopefully it's not bad. Puka and Kua is incredibly tough. It takes a lot of shots. I mean, he gets hit literally all the time. Wide receiver could be a big position that gets traded before tomorrow's deadline in about 28 hours from now. There's a wide receiver that entered back into the fold out of nowhere with Rosenhaus. Go ahead, Ty. - Yeah, Chefsie, do you have any update on how that meeting went with Rosenhaus and Ayuk and the Niners? I saw that Rosenhaus kind of took a sprinter van back to a like a Dunkin' Donuts or something. Five minutes after they got there. So I assume it didn't go well, but do you have any more information on that? - I didn't get any of the specifics about the meeting. I think my guess is something could happen after the trade deadline. Obviously the money is at the root of all this with the money that the 49ers feel like they're owed from brand and Ayuk. Okay, that was reminiscent. I happened to be in the driveway. Tio's driveway in Morristown, New Jersey when Drew held that press conference and said next question, next question, I was there covering it for NFL network at the time. And this had that sort of feel, but not as, you know, Drew's a little older, more mature. - You get an Americano. - Sure, yeah. - You don't have any drafts. - Exactly. - Exactly. So they had their little press deal. Like, you know, Brandon Ayuk wants to go play. We'll see if it went that could happen. I think there'll be some interest in the league about him, but they're gonna have to resolve this with the Niners right now. That doesn't seem close right now. - And what do we know? We know he owes $13 million or something like that 'cause he didn't show up in guarantee contract portion that he'd been paid as signing bonus. So he owes them $13 million. Obviously, everything that's happened on social media, people are gonna want to know if he's okay, how he is. And at $13 million, you don't have to wash dishes to pay off the bill. - That's right. - I don't know how you go about doing that. Hopefully, that's a lot of money. That's fluid too. So like, you talk about taxes, especially in California. That's probably like $20 million in cash. 'Cause after taxes, $13 million. So everybody reports what, like his owed. For instance, these kicks were these kicks that were making a million bucks. That's cash going out. So to get that cash after taxing, obviously, that's like $1.75 million actually. Shout to Milano, lion rights of my face, making a big time kick and the leprechaun loved the whole entire moment there. But that's a lot of money to be going out of somebody's pocket two, get back into the league just in general. - Show up the treatment, guys. - Meager. - Meager there. - It'd be fortunate. - Anything we need tonight. Anything we need no night as we come up on a hard out here in about a minute? - Well, let me give you a couple other things. A moment ago, Andy Reid said that Patrick Mahomes gonna be day-to-day. The news was more encouraging than they thought. So it sounds like Mahomes should be good to go. Mike McDonald has ruled out Sam Darrell for Sunday's game against the Raiders. And they feel like Drew Locke should be able to go. Jay-Jay McCarthy underwent an MRI this morning. Hip pointer, but the giants feel like he should be good to go on Thursday night against the Washington commanders. I think those are the quarterback updates that you need to know. And obviously tonight, you're a minister. You'll see a great game. Hopefully that's enough time for your hard out there. - You're the absolute best. Bill is favored by three. We're live on ESPN two. That's Adam Schaefft on ESPN all damn day. Every damn day has senior NFL insider. We appreciate you, Adam Schaefft here. - Hello Schaefft here. - Hey, Schaefft here. I heard they're really upset. And there's a lot of money. - They're a really upset of their. All right, we'll get to a break. Our two will be on the other side. We cannot wait to catch up with Dana Lovsky. Live in person with all the lads. - Yes. - Before our field pass tonight on ESPN two, we're special surprise, yes. It's an honor to be here. It's an honor to be alive. We'll see you on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. (dramatic music) - Hello beautiful people. And welcome back to our beautiful U.S. bank stadium. Here on his overreaction Monday, November 9th, on 26th, our two begins now. Football. - Yes. - He is happening here Monday night football week nine of the NFL season wraps up with Josh Allen. Odds on favor, one of them to win the MVP and the number one point scoring offense, traveling in to take on a defense that has been headline news. Carson Wentz is now the starting quarterback for this Minnesota Vikings team that only has one loss. They were one of the last undefeated teams around the entire league in their offense. Had been more deficient than any team, basically in the history of ball. They're saying this team's a rugby team offensively, but on the defense aside, it's mental warfare, it's mental hell. They're getting the rock, they're scoring, and the Vikings might be the team that ends up climbing Lombardi Mountain. Now they have Carson Wentz back a quarterback. Will he be the Carson Wentz that's great? Or will he be the Carson Wentz experience that's low? If he can manage this football team, this Vikings team could potentially win it all. But if he crashes in fails, then goes off the tracks tonight. Maybe the Vikings are looking for a new quarterback before the trade deadline tomorrow at 4 p.m. and on the other side, Josh Allen in the boys. Josh Allen's playing football, we assume he's gonna win. Him and Joe Brady have been the bestest of pals since Joe Brady has become the offensive coordinator for the bills. Now he's the head coach and the lads are buzzing. The defense getting better. And the offense aligned for the bills might be the biggest part of this entire game because the defense from Flores is gonna bring it. Top three offense aligned in the NFL, if you ask AQ Shipley and this Buffalo Bills team. It's good on good, great on great. It's Monday night football week nine from Minnesota. In a $1.1 billion stadium from about 10 years ago. If you look at it, you think it's like 3, 4, 5, 6 billion of how nice it is. - Sure. - They keep it very clean and tonight should be an absolute spectacle with the row thing. - Oh yeah. - And the Skull thing. - Dumb. - It's a good place, it's a great time. And we got a great one tonight. The talk today was here at Boston Conor and at Ty Schmitt. One half of the hammer down Cowboys AP Tonus here. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Bother. Look at really cool. - Yeah, sir, thank you. - Always. - That's a cool look. - Hey, it's a good jumper. - A good jumper. - It's a good one. - Jumper, it's not a jumper. - Dip shit. - He's not a toddler. - Jogger? - No, what is it? - It's a romper. - It's a romper. - One Z. - None of those things. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Daniel Lawskie here. - Daniel. - Daniel. - Daniel, we had a fantastic first hour going through our top five. They are who we thought they were. - Yeah. - 13 and one were the favorites this week at Sunback to Thursday. I think a lot of that can go on. The huge point spreads, good teams taking on bad teams, you get it. Defense and special teams were dominant. Watson, golden and love up there in Green Bay going crazy. And then the number one storyline is over Deadline, Dancing. Maybe tonight has huge implications on what happens before four o'clock tomorrow with the Minnesota Vikings quarterback situation. For you, Dano, coming out of the weekend. Number one storyline is what? Green Bay Packers are now leaders in the clubhouse for eye tests for who can win a Super Bowl after what they do to the Patriots or how do you kind of take away from the weekend in Europe? - I do think a big takeaway is can Cincinnati and Green Bay kind of be unicorns in football right now? We're an era where you have to play quarterback underneath center, you have to run the football, you have to play with multiple tight ends. And neither of them do that. Neither of both of them just go, no, we're gonna go in the shotgun. We're gonna throw the ball every play. Screw your tight ends. We love our wide receivers and we're just gonna throw it all the time. And their quarterbacks are just playing out of their minds. Jordan Love, first of all, I thought Matt LaFour was remarkably a say with the way he attacked certain coverages and certain people. You know, I like the fact that they put golden on Gonzo a lot into the field and said we actually like golden on Gonzo more than Watson on Gonzo. The way that they attacked the zero in the red zone was tremendous, the play action pass shots. And Jordan Love, I feel, I don't know. I don't know the last time I saw a quarterback say break the mechanics of football when it comes to like having your feet set consistently and making throws. I mean, I know Aaron was like that, but I think Aaron was a lot more. I like this. Correct. Like he, his feet are never set. They're drifting away and just places the ball flawlessly. And, you know, I think watching that team play offensively is wild right now. I feel the same about Cincinnati. I also would tell you, I think Green Bay's defense is a lot closer to Minnesota than people thinks. Just because the style of pressure and coverages that they play and the zone eyes that they play with, I think Deepok can speak to better. They're like, I don't know if there's a ton of structure in some of their coverages where it's like players, just be players and, you know, read routes. Pattern matches. Yeah, tech concepts, which is very like, very much so like Minnesota. Okay, so your tweet tried to tell you all has up over a million views. Yeah, this one, this is about. [BLANK_AUDIO] the Packers you know what's great. This could be about anything. No, no, no. So I try to tell you how Jesus Christ was. No, I said so I during the week I talked about Green Bay's defense to New England and I was like, this is a problem for New England. They're offensive lines not picking up pressures and stunts well. This is a defense that dominates in that. It majors in that. Patriots fans were mother-reffing me for the whole week. And then I was like, try to tell you guys the great thing is I believe I sent that at 6.37 p.m. and most of the replies are from Bears fans getting mad at me. Even though maybe if you added some context. Yeah, it's your fault. Or just pay attention to the time that it actually sent out. That's asking a lot of people to be smart. So it had nothing to do. It happened before the Bears games are nothing to do with bears. Caleb anything like that. Okay, so because a lot of people say another classic Dan O where it could be about anything but he certainly subliminally telling something to somebody which we got your message loud and clear as did the Patriots whenever that entire thing took place. You mentioned the bangles there. They go over to Spain kick off a wonderful day of ball for us. I mean it was a spectacular Sunday. You talk about Joe Burrow playing out of his mind. Is this sustainable? You know, AJ Hawk has come out and say, you know what? I think they could debunk it. They could be it. Jamar chase going crazy. T Higgins go on crazy. Then he got obviously Gisickey and Chase. They have the chance to be a greatest show on turf type offense. Is that going to be enough for them? Because the Packers defense, I think a little bit better than the bangles defense. So whenever you talk about that style. Yeah. So are you going to be able to win Super Bowl like this? I guess that's the only question now that we have to have. And I hate that that is what it always ends up being. But it does feel like that is what it ends up being. Fair question. Real quickly on the green Bay thing. I also don't want them to change once Michael comes back. Like don't just rush for just to rush for. I think that's a really big thing to pay attention to. My natural response to the Cincinnati green Bay question. Is it sustainable? Can you in the Super Bowl with it would be no? Like that's my natural one just because it's breaking the mold of football. It's eventually you're going to have to be able to in a January bad weather game. Run the ball. But I do think you could win a lot with it. I if I was Cincinnati, I'd be calling in to you today. What does it take to get Jonathan Taylor? I firmly am in the camp right now because you can't cover him one-on-one. Cassicki owns the middle of the field. The Jamar was on one yesterday. I love the way that they moved Jamar around. They don't just put him in one spot. They move him all over the place. But if this team added Jonathan Taylor, then I think I would swing to yep, they can play their style and go in the thing. So so do you think it's like do you think it's a chase brown plumb? Do you think? No, no, no, no, I don't think I think chase brown's a nice player. But I'm saying like will they just magically start running the ball if they get Jonathan Taylor? No. Who says their offense line is a line. It's ready to run. No, well first I think they're right tackles still the best right tackle in football. Memes is the best right tackle in football. I don't think they're dominant run offensive lineman. They are going to protection. The reason I say the Taylor part is if we just like played the math game of football and I said okay Jamar here and T there. I don't think there's a lot of secondaries that can play in one-on-one in the AFC. I think that Jesse Bates trade is about Cincinnati to Jacksonville. Maybe Pittsburgh like maybe I put playing them one-on-one but it's not important. Junior was perfect to play against them. So it's like okay well you if you can't play us one-on-one and then you've got to handle Gassicki in the middle of field. Well then the ability to run should be relatively easy and if we elevate the back and the back can do a little bit of BYOB, be your own blocker, make your own whole type stuff. I truly think it would become an unstoppable offense. Okay so Cincinnati Bengals potentially an unstoppable offense. They're in an AFC that is potentially led by the Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh yeah. Jacksonville Jaguars bringing Jesse Bates, you just mentioned him. They made another trade too. They got a Devon Gacho from the Saints. Oh to replace Hamilton. Yeah so the Jags are in the buying business right now. They understand what they've done. They have been hotter than a firecracker over the last 17 games and it feels like they understand it. What did ownership say earlier in the year about what's happening this year? Yeah he said this is what we envisioned in January. We're doing it in October. Now it's November. It's going to go on forever and it looks like it is. Man that sounds like run it actually let's see if that is. Okay. This is what's been envisioned in January okay. It's happening here in September. Gonna go on forever. Yes. Ownership's all right. I've heard. I've heard I do. I've never heard that. Yeah dude just do your research bro. Okay we just just because we happen to know about more stuff because we live on the internet or used to and sometimes it gets held against us. Not anymore yeah I tried to try to get out there. We still have a good presence on the internet. The boys are in the weeds in there so you know if anything pops off like that we will certainly know about it. But ownership down there he was going to build an entire city for Urban Meyer down there. They've been yearning. Got a new stadium coming. That's going to take a little bit. They got to and Trevor Lawrence is what playing the best ball that we've seen him ever play. Go ahead. He's playing out then obviously I have a lot more him and Liam and how he's playing but that defense like you talk about going all in like they're making a good defense I think great at Jesse Bayes at making the addition there. Right now the top of the league in turnover ratio obviously we know how important that is second in league when points per game. They're more than league in rush yards per game and like I believe second in the league when it comes to intercept so you're bringing a third active leader right now with Jesse Bayes 28 interceptions 14 force fumbles in his career the leadership that he has along with the weapons you already have when y'all saw so I agreed to this move is obviously for the bangles but everybody I mean this would be I don't know what are the odds for them to win it all right now. They're second in the FC behind the bills and then fourth overall for the circle. Yeah I mean I don't think they're going all in. I just don't think the football world or maybe the casual fan knows how good Jesse Bayes is because he has he's been in Atlanta and they haven't won over the past couple in Cincinnati like the way that I write starting his career the way that I talk about him is like he's the the secondary version of Fred Warner yeah like everyone goes oh my gosh Fred Warner or there's just like create havoc and punch the ballway Jesse Jesse Bayes is the same type of player I mean he's an unbelievable player and getting him and the reason I say it's about Cincinnati is you got to cover Cincinnati we just talked about their offense like you've got to be able to cover against them we can live in the world where you got to get the quarterback on the ground you're not going against Cincinnati because you can't play the the necessary coverage to get enough people to rush after Joe you've got to play a little bit more coverage that creates zones that gives easy completions it allows for an efficient offense you have to cover against Cincinnati if you're going to beat them I think this is that piece. I love the Jags going all in congrats to them down in Duval hopefully this is the year for them to maybe win a lumbarity I know the Jags fans would love that the AFC though has been run by one particular team over the last decade or so crazy looking injury day to day go ahead Con man. Yeah Daniel Pat's talking about Kansas City uh kind of wild pat my homestay and have his arm ripped off yeah he looked exactly like the Brock Party injury in the NFC championship a few years ago and Julia was saying a couple weeks ago but what is kind of your take on the chiefs because it hasn't looked great seemingly you know I mean look at the score right there at 1412 against the Jets and they end up going on and kind of right with them but what is kind of your idea around them do you think they also need to add in the next 24 hours as far as a wide receiver or some help because it's really just Kenneth Walker Kelsey here and there where she rises getting going but what are you thinking with Kansas City? Yeah this version of Kansas City cannot win a Super Bowl um I think they need to add two moves to truly be in that class of the Jacksonville's the Cincinnati's um I would tell you number one wide receiver you know uh Kelsey you mentioned it like all it is is Kelsey right now Kelsey's playing great I mean Kelsey once again looks younger than he did in two or three years ago so Kelsey's playing great Patrick's playing well um they need another wide receiver because I have so many clips of like there's no separation I can only create shallow crosses so many different times I think the second thing is they absolutely should be trading for an offensive lineman I don't know you know I was going to say a land in Dickerson but guards not necessarily a need but they need to add a tackle um and then the bigger takeaway for me outside of the offensive though because we know that the Jets ran the football right at this defense like right at this defense multiple times and that would be a concern of mine in relation to Kansas City because if teams are watching that tape defensively I would just sit there and say I'm going to run the football 25 times and I'm right at them not outside right at them I don't think they can stop it so are they one wide receiver that can get open away from being a super efficient offense that you would believe in or not if you told me that wide receiver was like a down I continue to pound the table for Don Tavy and Wicks there I don't I love Josh down yeah I love downs I just don't think he's like the ideal part they have a savior worthy again I'm running shallows with savior worthy where the Allen's done it a little bit I need a bigger framed guy that can play a little bit more on the outside and I think the world of Josh Downs um so I do I do like a bigger framed kind of you know outside player but they still need a tackle as well what if Pierce gets traded here what's his health and not good honestly we just hope he's okay I generally think he's okay I hope he's okay we had no idea he was going to miss the entire season after we paid him the largest wide receiver contract in the history of NFL free agency that's how we know he's okay because he's got a nice stack of cash in his pocket a lot of people for this close They seem to get some big stacks of cash in their pockets. And we haven't got a lot of wins coming out of it. Trade deadline day does feel like it's gonna be active tomorrow, even though Shephard didn't tell us anything. - You never does. - Shephard gave us a big maybe. - Yeah, it should be one of those. - For 20 minutes. - How I don't think that's gonna happen, but it could. - It could. - Last year I was in a car, big thing happened, didn't expect it to happen, so that could happen again, but I'm expecting it not to happen, actually. - But it might. - But it might? You never know what this leak. - He's got to protect his information, you know? - Does he, well, we need to protect the program. - Wrap she comes on, he says anything, you know, sh*t, I think they are trying to, you know what I'm going for it. You know what, yeah, I think they should do that right now. - Yeah, there is a chance that Shephard has a lot of information, that's kind of counter countering each other, 'cause there's a lot of similar players I assume being, you know, negotiated with with similar places. So Shephard has to protect all aspects of that, except for our show. You know, it's actually a lot of-- - Well, imagine like the weight of his words. - Our show, yeah. What's that? - Well, he says one thing that might be a step too far, then he's getting mother-eft by this team, mother-eft by this agent. This team's now like what the fudge is going on. - There was a clip going viral of him this weekend, 'cause he did one of these, the Vikings or whatever. And then Dan Jones played so bad that nobody wants him anymore. - Yeah. - It's like, well, I guess we got to keep you there. - Dan Jones is a good guy. Relax. - There's a lot of good guys on that team. - They're going through a lot. - Yeah, we like these guys. 35 million next year is a very feasible contract, if you want to Dan Jones. I still like Daniel Jones and his Indianapolis. - As a guy. - As a man. - I love Dan Jones. - He's a good man. - He was a great softball captain. - Big dude. - What was he? - He hit a homerun in his first high bat. - Did you guys lose by 20? - Yeah. - He batted out of order and hit into a double play when we really needed to get a rally going. - Dolan had an incredible catch yesterday. He was a liability in the outfield for you guys in that softball game. I think that kind of scared us a little bit. But yeah, I like Daniel Jones. I appreciate what Daniel, yeah. This guy couldn't catch a fly ball in a softball game. Drop three straight, gave up 12 runs. - I would have caught it, yeah. Like, track a ball, catch it one hand. - 12 runs off of this guy. Three consecutive hits. I mean, right to him in the outfield. - I was inducing soft contact, easy pop ups. - Hey, you're so much backspinning on it. - Yeah. - It's crazy. - I don't know. - Is that when we knew that the coats were potentially - I think it might have potentially. - We need a one for Jonathan Taylor. So whenever you talk to, whoever you talk to, I'm about sick of them thinking that they can just work Carly into giving up Jonathan Taylor for something, 'cause they've given up everybody else for next to nothing. Just you let the lads know. And chef or two, you're not listening, obviously. If you are, you need, we need to hear something. On trade deadline, Eve. Okay, we can't just have a whole maybe possibly. I mean, we could do that. Hey, Connor, tomorrow is Daniel Dimes going to get traded? Look, I don't know, but I think he could, but I don't know. So don't hold me to this, but I think he could. - But he might not. - We could do that. We could do what we did for 20 minutes there. Dan, do you think Josh Downs gets traded tomorrow? - Yes. - Okay, okay. - Holy shit. - That's a little bit different. - Okay, so we're the three land as well. - No, I think, I told you. - You know, I think absolutely needs to trade for a wide receiver. Rams. - Especially a poker situation. They have to trade for a wide receiver. - But that was going to be my question. Is their offense dead with it? Because we assume Devon to probably be out another three or four weeks at least. We don't know what news is coming with poker. So you're going to be super dependent. I would assume when he's tied in is, how would you call it if you were McVeigh? And what are your thoughts in this office going for without their top wide? - Hey, Roger, she. - No, I sort of got, if you told me. - He would have been ready for it. - If you told me that the play with Puka at the end of the game didn't happen, I would still tell you they need to trade for a wide receiver. The defense is great. Milo's in an air and we're outstanding. The offense right now just is not very good. They run the ball well. Their tight ends are good. The past game's not very good. It just isn't. Puka was great yesterday. Matthew has not seen the field well this year once again. I don't know. It showed up again yesterday. There's four or five clips where I'm like, he's just not seeing it. The forced interception. - Oh, that was a great draw. Got a great dip. - But he was staring right at him. - It's Matt, it is very Puka-centric and they're slow starting on offense right now. I absolutely believe that they have to be active in a wide receiver market. Absolutely. Whether Puka's out there or not. - Okay, and Josh Downs has requested a trade from the Indianapolis Colts. His brother flexed on him yesterday after a drop. It was the Downs battle yesterday. Dallas Cowboys win. Caleb Downs gets game winning interception. Good for him. Congrats to everybody who gets our best players without having to give up a one somehow. But everybody else gets ones for players that are all right. - Chef, he did say that. That was one thing he did say as the Colts do have an offer on the table right now for Josh Downs. - Which is worth at least a four. Which would be what the four is bucking on. - A four? - Yep. - Is that what is it? - Yes, at least a four. Yes, that's what he said. He did tell us something, I guess we should be excited. - Had the league should be trading for him. - For a four? - A fourth round pick? - There's no way it's got to be these multiple seconds. - No, no, no. - Multiple seconds, are you high? - What do you mean by for Josh Downs? - What do you mean by 28, 27? - The Colts just completed a trade for the four's funnel. - No, no, no, no, no. Taylor. - Yeah, because for a fourth round pick. - But wasn't there the caveat of like he only wanted to go to San Francisco, so wasn't that part of it? - Yeah, okay. Sorry, bud. - Okay, welcome to the fucking NFL. - There's a zero percentage. Josh Downs goes for a four. I'm not gonna say zero, one percentage. Cause I do sometimes say things, but no way. - I just tell y'all. - I'm like, "Oh, you think high, you think high-pick?" - He said Josh Downs. - Ed Don's doesn't give a shit, dude. - At a minimum, third. - At a minimum. - He's awesome. - The fourest buckner, one for a fourth round pick. He was our best player. - Dude, that kid's awesome. - Awesome, awesome. - If you told the Rams, if the Rams can, if shoot, if the chiefs can get above a fourth, give up a fourth for Josh Downs. - Absolutely. - And what about Jonathan Taylor? - I think Taylor's worth a minimum of a second. If I were to the angles, we need a one. - Did you think about it? - Yeah, I would, dude. I'm all in, like I'm all in this year. If I get, who cares about the first round pick next year, if you're Cincinnati? I also would sit here and say, "Do the bills look unbeatable?" No. Do the Jaguar look unbeatable? At times. - Kind of. - At times, but I still, like, it's still. - Still jacks? - Yeah, it's not Josh in the playoffs type stuff. So, if I'm a team that's already made all in, like, let's go. - Okay, so let's talk about the Rams potentially being the ones. Here's their draft capital. They might have been the ones who offered a fourth for Downs. Cleveland Browns, they give up their one, obviously, to them. - Sure. - Can't say a chiefs, because a big toughy of the three, so they have a two and a four. So, that could be the Rams that said, "We'll give you a four for Josh Downs." If that is what it is, 'cause that would actually be their second pick of the draft. There's a lot of teams that need stuff that don't necessarily have stuff. And the culture's sitting in a situation where they got a lot of good stuff, but are they gonna get anything in return? And if they don't get anything in return, do they wait 'til the off season? And if you wait 'til the off season, what are you doing out for? It's just tough situation. Hopefully they're able to negotiate a little bit better. We're allowed to say, "Hey, it's hard for us to let go of this guy." Like the Titans did, with Jeffrey Simmons. They didn't want to let him go, huh? - I'm going to play her. - Yeah, game record. - Game changer. - You know what he looks like? - You're telling me the four-spocker could have been worth that too? - No. I was shocked when he went for a four. - Two ones in a four the next day, Jeff-- - Since the lift of the month, we don't, it's on an inspiring concert. We don't have the lever. Let's take it to our leverage. - Okay, so hey. - And it's not like where like Simmons is in his prime and he got pay what last year? - Yeah. - Maybe you got extension this off season. - 35 million, yeah. - He's got 35 million a year. So you're gonna end up paying the four-spocker less than what you're gonna pay Jeffrey Simmons. I don't think the four-spocker's calling for 35 million dollars a year. This is what I'm selling if I'm selling. - Yes, so why would you give up that high draft pick for him? - Well, you're gonna pay him cheap. Like the Niners are running him right now, leasing him and the Bears potentially doing that as well. - Alton broke his ankle yesterday, too. So that paid off. - He was good, too. - Yeah, Jesse Bates has an inspiring contract as well. So I mean, he just won for what? A second and a fifth. - 28. - Yeah, but still a second enough. I mean, it's still like-- - You're gonna go, go. - Jesse Bates is a-- Oh, culture just sittin' and-- - Oh, you guys are doing great, Colts. - Jesse Bates is only 28. - Yeah. - Damn good. - He's so good at football. - Been a little late for so long. - Yeah, he's had a couple of different careers and he's only getting better in the Jacksville Jaguars. He's picking up everybody in the Colts. We had a Purdue band play last time. - Sorry, sorry. - They crushed it, Purdue band played it half time. Absolutely crushed it. - They worked great. - That was a good time. Cowboys fans filled that place up. - It's a good game. - Yeah, great game. All Cowboys fans in there. - Long game. - Yeah, well, it first half took forever. - Cowboys are cool. - Cowboys are cool too. - Your carbon needs to be the Colts' cold. - Yeah. - The guy who's own eight. - That's a good idea. - He's really talkin' 'em about. - The guy who's in a ring of honor. - Okay. - You mean. - He goes home in 17, bring him in. - Sean and Dermott. - That, I wanna be mad at him. - Easy Bruce. - Big laugh. - Easy. - Unbelievable. I'm sick of that. - I do when you put it like that. - Let's move off of the Indianapolis Colts, fire sailing everything and still not having a one. We still don't have a one. The Jets are about to have the second overall pick. From the Colts, Colts, tanking, for who? Jets. We'd like to thank you on draft night from the Jets. Once again, I do not speak for anybody in the building. They have not asked me anything. And I don't know if I have the right answers. I do not. Good luck to them on doing that. But we would like to thank you from the Jets. Speaking of the Jets, they are sending safety. Andres Cisco to the Detroit Alliance for a 2028 six. around pick sources tell ESPN, Cisco also on an expiring contract. So that is a rental. Once again, the forest buckner won for a fourth Andre Sisco on an expiring contract goes to the Lions for a six round pick trade deadline heating up. Let's not talk about any more trades that could happen. Let's talk about one that has already happened. Ty Schmitt, nine doing his thing for the Giants has a question for you, Dan O. It's pretty evident that the NFC East is complete dog shite and at what five, two and one, the Giants are, you know, they're running away with this thing. Do you think, listen, JJ McCarty, he didn't play bad yesterday, but he kind of went back a little bit more towards the nine that we expected. I don't know. Yeah, I think he agrees with me. But do you think he gives them enough to make them legitimate, super bowl threads or is it kind of like eight? Well, their defense is really good. Yeah, no, defense is very good. No, my answer to that would be no. It's nice to see JJ playing well. I would tell you and debug can speak to it better than me, but if like I was playing against the Giants, I would make them throw the ball in the middle of the field because right now he's killing on these corners and these outbreakers and these sales. In many ways, it's like I'm throwing this ball. I think the thing that showed up yesterday that didn't in those first two games and you know, was the reservation is dude, get off of the first read, like get off of the first read, get to a check down, get the ball to your hands. Don't, you know, get smacked in the pocket because you're just hanging, hanging, hanging and then trying to get out of there. And so, you know, when JJ, at least so far, has that first who he believes is going to be open, guy open, it looks awesome. But I still think that there's getting stuck on the first read that is going to eventually hurt them and their offense. And so the defense is great. Reese's awesome. Tibidos playing outstanding. Banks is playing great. The way that they use Carter and Reese and Tib's in their past rush is awesome. It's awesome. But I do not believe that the offense is good enough. Do you think it'll actually be a conversation between like in the offseason about, hey, who are we going to go with? Through three games, right? He's played three games so far. I think so. Yeah, with three games. It's not even close. Him and with him and Jackson. Yeah, Jackson dart much better getting through progressions. Yeah, but I mean, JJ had a hit pointer. If we get him back to a hundo. Yeah, you know, we shall see locker rooms. He didn't do the trademark. I paint. Yes. Yeah. I'm happy for the young man. I think he did though. I think he did. Well, I don't think he did the crosses. He just did traditional eye black. Just, you know, no, no frills. Have you ever had a hit pointer? It hurts. Dude, I, I hear you. I, I do. I hear you. Yeah, sure. I'm with you. I mean, Tordal can do a lot of magic. There's a lot of things that can happen in there. And I do appreciate. I mean, he said I love you boys. What was that to him? Boy, he was the bond hit. He was right to hit point. Now, but why does something like you were farting inside of him? I like this. Oh, you had fart. Why was it inside? Tell us literally one inside of him. That's what you just tried to do. Parted inside. Hey, that's a Yukon difference. Yukon or Yukon. You chose to bounce. Never heard of it as you come out of our university. All right. Never ours either. It's like we did to Michigan the other night. Oops. Oops. Oops season. Hurley's a man. Obviously, we love what you guys have going on there in the women's team. Don't give me starting this year. Last year the night. Oh, really, yes, I beat the doors off by all right, 039. Good game. Have you guys seen Wes Virginia's women's team? No, yeah, big 12 chance. You mean on the theater, right? They're the defending big 12 champs. Yeah. On the tournament. Seriously, the whole thing. Yeah, on the LED, the big 12 tournament, not the national tournament. Body Crooks is a member of Oklahoma States team now, and I'll tell you she had like 15 or 20 points the other night started. Oklahoma. She was Iowa State. Yeah. Yeah. And I. Someone doesn't follow. Did you hear the New York Liberty father, their coach? What? Of course you didn't hear that two weeks ago. Bill Jackson. Ah, dude. Well, Jackson isn't the coach. That's who they're eyeing. Oh, okay. That's what it was. I saw the report. All right, let's get off of the WNBA and women's college hoops and men's college hoops. Actually, um, no, what do we got? Well, no, it was an update to the wire. It was the announcement that Chris was fired, not an update that somebody was getting hired for the lives. Is Angle Stone? Oh, Lord. Uh, I think she's waiting to. Yep, she's out. Yeah, it's over. It's over. She had a hell of an angle burnt to her name. She's the ex WNBA commissioner. She negotiated the largest media rights deal for a women's league in the history. Good job. Uh, League. A lot of people say she had a footer mouth, about 450,000 times across the course. Yeah, well, let's try to remember the good times. Same. You're right. It's just all the money. It was everything else that kind of didn't go great. But hey, that league is going to get figured out. Let's get back to our league. There's a team that if you need them to win in a close game, they will do it. It might not be sustainable. But maybe this is just who the hell this guy is. Tony has a question for you, Dan. Yeah, we are talking about the Denver Broncos, Dan. And since Sean Payton has taken the play, calling back over, it feels like just I test. Why I test wise, both feels like he feels like he's seeing it better. And he's throwing it more confidently. Yep. Um, it sounds like you feel the same way. Do you think it's, it's enough, though, for them to make another run? Absolutely. Cause a defensive sensational as well. Much more rhythmic in their past game. Totally agree. Um, also got to some of the formations that are good. They like four by ones. They got sat in the football a little bit more. Sometimes it was down the red zone. Sometimes like just put them out to the field and allow a six foot five frame. To be as big of a deal as it was. Both seen it better. I think both throws a seam ball. So like imagine 20 yards down the hash essentially about as good as that. Look at that timing. The more they can kind of do those, he just sees it confidently and cuts it loose. So the more that they have that in their bag is better. The play action past stuff, which is vintage Sean Payton presented itself as well yesterday. So I would tell you the last couple of weeks, he looked a lot more like he did last year. And the last couple of weeks, it's been a lot more of the player that he's been for the majority of his career. So yeah, it's good enough. Their defense is tremendous. The only thing that always weak every week gives me trepidation about their defenses when they have to play teams that can throw the ball to the tight ends. Cause they play such a structure that if you got tight ends, your tight ends can absolutely gut them. That's why I'm like, okay, Buffalo concerns me when they have to play against Denver from the defensive defense of Denver perspective. Very, very, very good defense. And the offense is definitely much better the past month that I've been accepted. I see that Denver reached out about trademark ride. Yeah, was every. Yeah, he wants to Colorado state to believe he's from the area. So, but both looking good, both look, he's the last couple of weeks lot better. Bow is looking good. He actually broke a record for one score games. Peyton Manning had been sitting there and now bonics becomes the Broncos. As I've said, new NFL record of 16 consecutive one score wins. Bonics and companies from past Peyton Manning's 2008 2009 Colts team. I was part of that 2009 Colts team. Cardiac Colts conversations, Cardiac Colts, Cardiac Colts, Cardiac Colts. It's like this Broncos team. I think their fans are still getting used to trust in bonics in these situations and trusting Sean Peyton. I love that that's their style of play because you're going to have to win a close game, especially whenever it comes to playoffs when it comes to Super Bowl. But living like that is awfully dangerous. All it takes is one or two bounces the wrong way. All it takes is for somebody to squeeze ball, a little bit intersection. They got boom crazy. Boom. You're living with a lot of luck. Not saying Sean Peyton and bonics can't continue to do that. We all know people that get cards every single time they play. But it is, it is a lot of luck that you are living with. And I love the bonics has been doing something right with the football Lord that they're giving it to them on that particular. Let's go to the NFC South massive question marks. I saw the Carolina Panthers there. Debut has a question for you. Yeah, it seems like every week they're one of the quarterbacks playing great or playing absolute shite. So they all got three wins. Who actually wins this division has a home playoff game as it stands now. Falcon Saints. Oh, big side there. I know it's tough. I'm an associate to another division right now. Yeah, I'm going to still say Tampa. Tampa should have won that game last night if Baker played better. And I love Baker. But just did not the interceptions were just killer. Um, the defense is playing so good. Carolina's so beat up. Yeah, Bryce played great yesterday. Again, but they're just so beat up health wise. Atlanta's so hot or cold. My concern with Atlanta is Michael Penex just won't move right now. Like he just won't move. And as a defense, you know, like he's going to be there all the time. And they haven't figured out a way to attack teams that are like late filling in the run game. Again, you would know this like from the backside. They haven't figured out way to hurt it. Uh, New Orleans Shuck was amazing yesterday. Um, they was amazing yesterday. Um, they intrigued me, but I don't trust, you know, like the one sided element of their offense. Are you saying Shuck isn't what it looks like? No big tall athletic dude could throw it. I would say that's what it looks like. Yeah. Huh, but you just say you don't trust their offense. One sided element. They can't run the football. So, like, he threw the absolute tar out of the ball yesterday. Always does. And a lot of Tyson Tyson was really good. Yeah, tight end is awesome. Timely fumble. Um, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a lot of punch up. And Shuck made so many plays with his legs yesterday. Like six or seven just huge scrambles. Um, yeah, dude, he's awesome yesterday. Shucks again. Connor's a corn sugar. Yeah, he has been since beginning. Yeah, since jump. Now that particular draft that particular draft was on a full display yesterday. Yeah, he's got the other side of it. Deshawn Watson has been announced as a starter for week 10 Cleveland Browns football. Shudder Sanders will back him up. Shudder goes in. in New Orleans almost gets a damn win. What did you learn about Shador and the Cleveland Browns yesterday? And I would like to shout out Todd Monken. Thank you for going for two for good a ball. Todd. Now, stats are saying it's only one for five. Yeah, one for five. So like the Saints did this earlier against the Lions. Gave the Lions a win when the Saints won for two and didn't get it at the end of getting a loss there. We appreciate them going for the win. We appreciate the Browns going for the win instead of the tie there, which they certainly could have done. Tie looks better at the end of the year, but for the good a ball. We need to have a winner here. How'd Shador look and how the Browns are coming out of New Orleans in your eye? Hey, Foxy, in about 20 seconds, have that two point play pulled up again. But I would tell you, I think Shador helped himself. I thought he managed it well. He made the right decisions. He moved good, got the ball out of his hands. The young players made so many big plays, Boston, great concepts. You own great fan and great. I want to talk to you. Get over me. Monster, this play, this is the one that I think, right? Dude, get all of this is only catch. He's a freak, dude. You turn. They said it was his only catch because they kept them in and try to slow down chasing the boys up front. But here's the thing. And I'm saying Shador did well. I think he did well for himself. Bottom of the screen, or right above the bug, is conception. OK, conception is going to run a little bit of a crosser to the top of the screen. And one of the things about Shador is kind of leaving the pocket backwards early. If he just hangs in the pocket there, conception on comes wide open on the crosser to his left. And that's another point of like, hey, you won't see it on this clip. It's on the right side of the screen. But see him at the end here. He was chasing him a couple of times. But I don't feel like that pocket there is a one that he had to leave. And so again, just continuing to develop and learn. He didn't have to leave the pocket in that moment. If he hangs there, another click, another click, and he just kind of drifted back a step instead of evading, conception is going to be there. And the bronze are going to win the game. Well, we see that a lot of Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love, the drift back. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, still in pocket, let everything go. Drift like, yeah, drift does like a passer, rather than I'm getting away from unnecessary bad. Now, hasn't played a lot of NFL football. Obviously, backup quarterback does a great job. Huge part of the conversation. And in his answer about being backup quarterback, just trying to learn, be whatever I got to do. I thought was spectacular. After I thought was a pretty horrendous series of answers going into the same thing. Yes, just from an NFL quarterback personally. I think he was trying to not say things. I think he was trying to be reserved and try to help himself out. I think he was doing that. But his answer is just like, I thought they were just not great answers for a starting quarterback. But then he goes on the field. And you see the boys. I mean, he lifts the boys every time he's out there. They obviously respect him. He's incredibly tough. Dano's watching the all-22 right now of KC. I'm not sure how to open KC earlier in this drive. Drops one and hits him right in the chest as well. So play call ends up working out here on the two. If he says a drift, drift, drift, drift, drift. If he just hangs, see how the defendant falls. Where is that in the progression of that play? Because I see like a stick at the goal line from the title. I see like a flat to his right, which looks like, after the KC, is that no? KC is going to cross that motion right here, Judy. Boom. It looks like it's designed to get Judy in the fight. I would tell you that. So that's like three or four. Yeah, I would tell you, but we would call that like, we used to call a play like that. Cougar in many ways, down this was down in Houston with a Cubiak Shanahan thing. And it was like, you're reading outside in across the board. So we would actually have started up top and see if we can get that quick flat and then kind of read that middle mesh. I don't know how exactly I was getting in red. So getting taught. So I'm telling you how kind of I've learned it. But you see the motion go across. You see the defender go. Obviously, man, it's more than likely going to be man down here. So any type of thing that you get of that, that would probably be like his third progression, but kind of seeing it all happen at the same time. So I just, the point is the growth in development, playing more and more and more of if he just hangs and kind of drips, drips, drips, he's going to get conception on. So learning process process for him. But I do think he helped himself. You call that Cougar, because the play's got a mature. Exactly. We'll see that. You know what I mean? Nobody's talking about that. Let's go to tonight's game. And we'll have our football environment expert. Yeah. Perfect. Currently 2-0, by the way, he's currently 2-0 on his picks on how the field feels. But let's talk about you tonight. Your thoughts on tonight. Can't wait to get on ESPN 2 with you, field pass. Thank you for doing that with us. We are excited to get in there, especially with our surprise guests that we have. We had a blast in Chicago whenever we did it. We hope people will join us tonight. If not, we're going to have a good time doing this. What do you see from this evening? Carson Wentz, at this stage of his career, can he play the football that we've all seen him in the past whenever he's playing phenomenal? Or will he be the wild, crazy Carson Wentz? No play left behind type quarterback. That could put them into big trouble, especially if they turn the ball over with how good their defense is. Just need somebody to manage it, right? How do you kind of view tonight going? And what are your thoughts on Carson Wentz? Yeah, my number one thought with Minnesota's offense tonight is, can Kevin O'Connell run his offense? That he hasn't really been able to run all year. This has been a top five offense. Under Kevin O'Connell, when it comes to putting in the quarterback center and utilizing play action, they've been bottom 10 in those things this year with Kyla Murray. And so I've been adamant of you have to be able to run your offense. And so can he and does he do that tonight? I think the second thing is in relation to Carson, is you're asking just, you got to be able to just to manage. I just don't buy into that. No, one, this defense is so good. If you give the ball away, you give the ball away. Now when you give it, where you give it, all that stuff matters. You're going against Josh Allen. He's going to score points. This isn't going to be like your playing against an offense that is putrid against the dominant defense. So I still think you got to lean a little bit towards like, dude, you got to be aggressive with the football. You got to trust what your eyes are telling you and cut the ball loose. And so I want to see what the offense for Minnesota looks like tonight in relation to what it has for the majority of this season. I do not think if this offense looks pedestrian again, I just do not believe Minnesota can stand pat. I think anything is on the table out quarterback. And when I say anything, I quite literally mean anything. Even if it sounds outrageous to the NFL community, I think you have to start it like the most outrageous call you can make at quarterback. And just work your way down the line. Yeah, her most outrageous call you can make. Whatever, however fantasy stupid it sounds, if you're in Minnesota and Carson struggles tonight and your offense looks bad and you lose again, 17, 14 or something, like you can't, you can't waste the offense two years in a row. So that's probably the number one thing I'll be paying attention to. And then, you know, there's Buffalo copy Detroit's run game versus Minnesota. I'd be interested to see if they do that. What else did Detroit do against Minnesota? A lot of, I'll quick, yeah, it was really like the, they put those two tight ends offset into the backfield and ran again, super nerdy football turns. They ran like what gap schemes look like, meaning pulling people rather than just zone schemes. They kind of pulled the tight ends into the middle of the defense and split the defense with it. I want to see if Buffalo kind of copies it. - All right, let's see how we're feeling down a field level, ladies and gentlemen. It is time, once again, for a part of his show that has been missing. - Yeah. - We're in the stadiums, but we're not on the field. Let's go to the field with the person who should be telling us how it feels down there. World renowned football environment expert, ladies and gentlemen, Parker. - Yay, what's up, boys? - Parker, I like that, a little bit more confidence. - Yeah. - Come in quickly after the intro. I suppose you're sitting there staring at camera. Hey, tell me, US Bank Stadium, absolutely glorious. Your thoughts on it, how it feels down there about six and a half hours away from kickoff? - Oh yeah, this place is glorious. It's a great haven for football. Environment feels, you know, favorable for both teams down here, though, which is the weird thing. Not a big fan of this fake grass down here on the field, more of a real grass guy myself, but still a beautiful place nonetheless. Cathedral of football. - Yeah, and if Jim could get this man that's in the middle of this, the up there he is right there, ladies and gentlemen. He has his feet are on the artificial grass. Are your joints okay, Parker? As you give this read, you're a natural grass guy. Normally, it's because of the joints and how they feel. Are you okay? - Oh yeah, joints are feeling great. Yeah, can't complain about the joints. - Okay, so you said it feels good for both teams. You kind of gave that chemical way that you've been normally doing at the end, but you are too and out. You think these guys tied tonight? Is that what you're thinking? - Oh, absolutely not. Bill's mafia is gonna take over this place and run wild here in Minnesota. - Sure. - Parker. - It's good boy environment. - Dave, we're going. - Dave, we're going. - Thank you, Parker, down there on the field, we appreciate you doing that for us. As the NFL live Monday night countdown set is pieced together back there and we're up here on a balcony overlooking this glorious place. Buffalo Bill's gonna take over and run wild in here. We saw that last night a bit. We try to find somewhere to eat, watch Sun and I football. Big Minnesota Timberwolves fans around here. - Yeah, huge. - We went into a couple Irish pubs around town and they wouldn't put Sun and I football on 'cause Timberwolves' game was on. They beat the Utah Jazz I'll have you know. Found a nice spot called the Depot. There's no way they've been used to nine of us humans walking in there. But they were incredibly hospitable. A lot of bills, mafia people everywhere. We have seen and that is obviously a part of the Buffalo Bill's experience is their fan base. Vikings fans though, right? In this place like Winona. - Oh yeah, it's super loud in here tonight. - Maybe Parker doesn't know what he's talking about. - He definitely didn't see that guy in the lobby this morning wearing a chat green wager. - You're right. What a player probably a little jaded to because he is a Saints fan and we all remember the stuff on digs Miracle play in This in this very building, you know, other magical play that happened in this building What's that? Well, Philly Philly. Oh Minneapolis Miracle happens here. Philly Philly happens here. D button knocked out at him Feelin' near, walk outside and stick it. Yeah, I was clean. Yeah, it was dashed black me. It was clean. It was dash 12 whenever we played here Yeah, Parker also doesn't know who's ballin' the horn tonight. Who is bowin' horn? Tim Walsh. Shut up. Shut up. Yeah Place is coming back. It's gonna be as loud as it's ever been in here. I don't know that. That's crazy. I think I have to do some security checks I assume. Delia for sure. Especially with us on a sideline. Excited to be here. Pump to be here. Minnesota is beautiful. Many Ampless were around last night. Good place. Nice hotel. We've stayed in to a series or phenomenal. I'll tell you what Don't worry about it, pal. The same one as you, pal. The double trick. They're dead. No, no. No. Oh, it is not to me. Never mind. It's not Tim's are what? Adrian Peterson's doing it. Oh, yeah, hey, hey, all day. Adrian Peterson. He owes me my jacket. Yeah, he brought it. I don't know if he owes you. I don't think that's how that that's viewed. I think he's very grateful for the gift that you gave him in real time on radio row, but he's going into the ring of honor tonight. So we assume he'll be blowing the gigantic. Yeah, call to the Vikings. Uh-huh. You heard that. That was all done. Thank you. Is there a button in there? No, no, actually in the blow. Yeah, yeah, I need to be a big one, bro. I don't know who's got that type of lung capacity. Adrian Peterson certainly does. But I've seen some others do it then. I don't think have enough to get through that entire thing. Jared Allen. Yeah, of course. I love Jared. Who? Who? Oh, no. No. Why'd you say Jared? Oh? No, it was blown away. That's for right. Ah, deep. Oh, Jared Allen PTSD. We've got a big night tonight. Yeah. Was it here? Different stadium? Where was it? Is that the Metro, don't you? Oh, this is the same site. Is that place? Is it? Yeah. Oh, yes, because they played at the University of Minnesota for a couple years. So cold. Yeah, so glad to talk to Kyle Rudolph. I got chance to catch up with him up in Notre Dame. So big. He's awesome. You know, he's an Ohio guy. I didn't know. I did not know he's an Ohio guy. Notre Dame guy. He talked about the times where they played at University of Minnesota. And he was like, that was the worst experience in any of those. Didn't they lose? Wasn't there where they missed a kick? Yeah, like a huge playoff kick. We'll be live tonight. ESPN to feel past. Ain't the right Dan Oh, yes, sir. Tell the people what they're going to be getting. Dan Oh, we're going to good good. Um, all right, and I don't know what you're going to do by anything your savior, you con brother. Hey, you know what? No, I love it. It's my quarterback forever and always. Our quarterback, too. We might have another quarterback to pop by, but be a friend so nice. My change of life. Good night. Good work, Dana. Way to really put it over. We're watching on NFL live. They ran a promo for it. And I believe Miss Laura was hosting that day. And they come back immediately afterwards to go. Dana. What is he should? Yeah, it should be fun. And then you want to rate to some fire. Fucking thing. You didn't even put it over. Yeah, it's so hot. We go down in the lava. Such a big issue. Like it's so much fun. I can't believe we're there. Like didn't even tell people NFL live is a huge audience. Guys are back to back at me award. Yeah, having you a part of it's a big deal. They run an ad for it. Comes right into you. She says, Hey, what should they expect? You go. I'll fucking know. It's going to be dumb. Excuse me. I'll fucking know. Yeah, I don't know. That's not necessarily my strength. You know, like, what is your strength, Daniel? Reading defenses, talking ball. I feel like I'm pretty good dad and husband. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't count. How's that helped to feel pass on a ESPN 2 tonight? You're a good man of faith. Maybe some people want to tune in just to get a little conversation about being a dad. Maybe you say that. Whenever Miss Laura says I'm saying it right now. That's not what was talking about. I'll talk about when you were on the back to back, Emmy award-winning daytime show. And you were asked to talk about what you were going to do a Monday night. And you said, no, on that note. I was fucking core back. Let's go to the budget. That was talk lava. Next time I'll do it. Next time I'll get it done. Next time there might be another next time. If we have bad ratings on this one, nobody's going to talk about it again. It's over forever. Hope you're happy. Is there a number we have to hit rating wise? Yeah, last week was the last time we did it with the lowest, they were 60 million. Well, not with you saying. Let me get TV with the fire around it over here in the brand new studio. It's probably a good breakdown though. It was about the bangles and D butter. I doubt it. Yeah, when are you going to bring up the bangles schedule? By the way, Joe Burrow can't win MVP this year, I guess. I don't know, because they've lost to the Jags and Steelers and the only teams they've beat and have like three wins, pal. Every team they play that they've been for. Are you still going back to last year? I'm just going to your stand. Daniel President, you set. Yeah, you shouldn't have never done the schedule. The bangles schedule the softest schedule, the last 30 years of the NFL. Yeah, it's equally as softer than the Patriots last year. Yeah. Oh, maybe I won't vote for Joe. That maybe you can actually. You're not allowed to sway that even Joe. Maybe I vote for Jordan love. I like that. That would make more sense. Toughest division. There's two AP voters. There's three AP voters here up on this set right now. And I don't even know if Dan even knows this. So let's go ahead and let him know. Here are the current odds on favorites to win. The awards that you boys will be voting for. Joe Bird, Josh Allen, co favorites for the MVP, John Harball out there in New York. New Jersey actually coach of the year, can a lot of other guys. Liam Cohen, not being up there. Pretty wild to me. I think he's like fifth best odds behind Ben Johnson. I believe, I can, you know, so Liam Cohen is like fifth best odds. I assume they're going to use that as motivation as well for what he's been able to do down there. Will Anderson, Jr. Texans don't really win a lot of games. Is he going to be able to win an award even if you're on a team that isn't great? We shall see Gibbs offense player of the year. Denzel Boston, their offense of rookie there. That always changes late with big games with rookies on the offensive side. That normally adjust a bit. And in our values, fresh off of three sacks. He is the odds on favorite to win defense of rookie of the year. Dano, I assume you didn't know any of these things about an award that you have a lot of saying or any of the words you have any saying. Anything stick out there that you think to yourself, ooh, that's fascinating or that's interesting. Yeah, I mean the MVP stuff. Burrow certainly up there. I think Jordan love has to be like that. I think Jordan love. Right now has a run game that is like the worst in the NFL in the last 80 years. Something like that. Hembo sent me a stat the other day about it. So Josh Allen certainly would be into that conversation. Same with Purdy and same with Lawrence Caleb. Where's Dan Jones? Thanks. You got to give it to Harbys right now with what they're doing with all these different quarterbacks. Defensive player of the year. Will Anderson's been great. I would have to think about somebody from Green Bay defensively as well. David McKinney. How many picks in five? Yeah. Fair Warner. Parents are real. Fred Warrant. Fred had another one yesterday. So those guys would probably be in the conversation for me. Offensive player of the year. I'm probably good with Gibbs. But J. Sands got to be in there as well. Offensive rookie of the year. Boston's been great. I'm trying to think of anybody else that stands out. The other favorites are carnal Tate and then Jonah Coleman and K. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. So and Fanon's probably no fan six. They've got two of the top five. Cleveland. Yeah. Then I would give Boston right now. Defensive rookie here. Give me our brother. Yes. Okay. That's a big push as well. But I mean, meaningful versus record. Yeah. Look out for Caleb downs. It's always hard if your team sucks to win awards because awards voted on by people that see games. So if you sucked, you're probably not going to be a part of a lot of big time, prime time games. So that's just kind of a word to the wise. If you're betting on those things responsibly or trading on them responsibly, these three AP voters have to make that decision in real time. Let's get to a break on the other side. We got our overreactions. Yeah. Tate, I assume today was a good one. I'll be honest. I was expecting a little more. Oh no. There were there were a couple good ones. There were a couple really good. All the favorites one. So no one's mad. Yeah. Kind of. Hmm. Who's the favorite tonight? Beel Spythory 72% of the money. I think something so might just have to. What's going to happen if Carson just goes off crazy? Where's chance? It is the bill's defense. He could left hand shop put that thing to Justin Jefferson. Good. Jefferson. Good one hand. Who's the betting favorite to be the first quarterback drafted in the NFL job? Who's the favorite? First C.J. Oh really? Oh, C.J. Car might have jumped this week. Betting, I think. I know the Messmaker thing was 17 A votes. Yeah. P Tamil Drew Messmaker is still a favorite to favorite quarterback right behind him in C.J. Car. Yeah. If you get me C.J. Car and that two minute drive in the first half, give me that guy. Give me that guy. It was fun to be there. That place feels special. You stay for the game or do you go? Yeah, stay for the game. Usually night game with the schedule we have. Yeah, especially with how close it was to home. It was like shouldn't stay, but then being there was like. Should stay for this one. And obviously, Gumpy. Yeah. It's a huge game. He got a tour of everywhere Notre Dame football has. And he just had that hurricane. Yeah. >> He's a dog, yeah, I mean, it was certainly fascinating because I walk in, you know, and I haven't been the nicest to Notre Dame. I'm not like the biggest drum beater for Notre Dame, in the history, yeah, exactly. So we're walking to that building, it's already potentially uncomfortable. And then you've got to dump you right behind what this hurricane's had on. Just walking right through your locker room. >> Is that new building insane? >> Yes, yeah, like the drone. >> She's trying to music off real quick, huge part of it, the new building in my eyes that isn't talked about. We all just assume Notre Dame has an endless supply of cash because, you know, Irish Catholics in a way it all goes. Do you know who's donating all that money? Ex players. >> Really? >> They're all ex Notre Dame players. Butler, ex player, shields, ex player, Ilzner, ex player. Now, they're not like, they don't go in to be professional NFL guys. They'll get into finance. >> Business in general. >> But Pete Bavocqua, ex player, walk on Notre Dame. Now the athletic director, formerly the head of Peacock and NBC Sports, I believe alongside Mark Lazarus. He's former player now, he's athletic director. So I think he has called a lot of the ex players and been like, hey, do you want to get involved? They build this place, they launch it in July. It is state of the art through and through. 100 plus million dollars they put into this place. And it's all ex players looking out for the current team. And then, like, who's a recruiting candidate or leader, it's like ex player. Who's that ex player? It's like all ex players. >> How do you not choose there? >> Yeah, I don't, honestly, walking through there. I thought to myself, like, I doubt Midas will have the attention span to be able to do well enough in school to be end up in Notre Dame. But it's like, if my boy ended up in Notre Dame, I'd be incredibly proud. >> Yeah. >> Like, that is how you feel like walking in and out of that. Not only that building, just the campus as a whole, it's beautiful in there. They got a whole state-of-the-art, you know, sensor room where you could take on the-- >> The Texas Tech Video Board, that one viral last year. >> Yeah, the whole thing. Yeah, they have it all in there. It is gorgeous. And it is a beautiful building. That's the Ilser-- >> And the players just live there. >> Yes. >> Yeah, and also all athletes are able to-- >> Danny Bed? >> Yeah, yeah, sure. It's not red light. >> So it's not just football. >> So the large part of it is football. >> But like the dining hall? >> Character out there too, I like that. >> Yeah, it looks-- >> It's gorgeous too. >> It's the campus. >> Yeah, exactly. >> In the right there, they-- >> Shh. >> We do the practice facility on the other side too. But because I guess before this, they had absolute shite. >> Yeah. >> I guess like-- >> Old, old, very old. >> Yeah, they were very like-- they didn't like talking about their facility. Everybody's like, yeah, Notre Dame's nice, Notre Dame's nice. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Notre Dame's nice. But I guess-- >> But you're stillers? >> I guess, yes. I guess a lot of the players are like, this place is a shite hole. So, Bavocqua being able to rally all of them to donate to the-- it is-- you know, hey, here's a fun fact. I learned from Coach Lauren, I believe, in the strength room. If you can pause, Ray-- now, oh, we missed it. So, right there in front-- I don't even know if it's in there. Right there in front of that ramp that they had back there. First of all, the ramp is at six degrees-- some degree that is perfect for speed training. Right there on the grounds, right on the ground in front of that ramp. They have four, like, sensor metal pads. And you know how, like, Chip Kelly-- you can take that video down. You know how Chip Kelly had everybody pee every morning, see where they're at, and some people do that? They have their guys jump every morning. >> Every morning? >> Yeah, so they have to have the sensor to measure to see where they're at. So, it's like-- >> That sucks. >> Right leg, left leg. It's like five of them across the board. And I guess they come in every morning and you jump. And it's like, where are you at? Where is there any deficiencies right side to left side? What is your standard jump? Where is your jump now? They're, like, after games. Monday, Tuesday. >> Oh, something's out boozing last night. >> Yeah, exactly. So, I didn't-- I never experienced that or knew that that is a potential way to test people. And then, as I was thinking about, I was like, that's like a pretty genius way to really test explosion. Me, though, in college. I don't think I'm wanting to go 100% jump every single day. That's because what I was doing the night before. But I do think they have a very good grasp on where guys are literally at all times in modern sports sites. >> Sick. >> Crazy to think about. Crazy, you didn't want to jump every day. >> No, that sounds fucking terrible. Every morning I got a jump. I got a spray and a good-- >> Wow, they're not making a jump if they're hurt. >> Everybody's hurt as football. What the fuck are we talking about? >> Well, I think that's a part of it. I think the jumping has exposed, like-- >> Fourth day of winter workouts. I got to come here jumping in the morning. >> Yeah. >> Right leg, I guess. >> Hey, it's different. Boy, they're getting paid a lot of money to do that. >> Yeah, I guess. >> That's how they're professionals. >> They are professional athletes. But I didn't know they did that. And while I was there being explained to me, I'm like, oh, you learn a lot. I assume from-- >> I make the pitch in every day. That's good in theory, but actually having to do it sucks. >> Sucks. >> Every day. >> Everybody in the Eagles. >> Yeah, that's right. >> All right. >> I have to pee for this guy, and I got to drink this shake before I get out of loop. >> No, not even a drug test. >> That's okay. There was a month for 27 months. >> Oh. >> I was a traitor. So-- >> Listen, he's not the only one either of mine. There's been a lot of people who have gone through that. >> She's the least. >> That's the kicker, man. >> Great kicker, man. >> Great kicker. >> Hey, you're great on Microphone, pal. Can't wait to see you on the sideline. >> Okay, nice. >> We're going to be standing to back the end zone. >> How are you? >> That can be good for you. >> It's going to be good for you, I think. >> Oh, no field size seats. >> So we're not blocking, but-- >> I don't know how you're doing. >> I don't know how you're doing. >> Good. >> I don't know how to go down on the knee. >> Knees. >> Knees. >> Two of these still should probably. >> All right. >> That was disgusting what you did to all of us. >> Agreed. >> But we appreciate your break. All right, let's get to a break. Be a friend, tell a friend. Some nice of my change in life. We're in this thing together. The overreactions are about to be awesome. Ty didn't think they brought it in nothing. And it did not get to the number one overall trend. I think it was going to be tough to get to the number one this morning. >> Really? >> This might be one of the best ones too. Four overreaction because both teams probably expect to win. >> Yeah, I'll probably get a couple of those tomorrow. >> Let's just go on on. >> I got 10 years of jail. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, something that was freaking market. >> We've got 10 years of jail. >> Number one trend right now. You can go find it yourself. >> Athlete? >> No. >> He played footy growing up, I think. >> We don't know if that's true. He does have an accent. >> Be a friend, tell a friend. >> Take five. >> Five. >> Four ball. >> It is the greatest. And we are in a place that football built here in Minneapolis, Minnesota. What a beautiful stadium this U.S. Bank Stadium is. It is roughly 10 years old. It looks like it's brand new. And tonight, it will play host to the Minnesota Vikings in the Buffalo Bills, wrapping up week nine of the NFL season here on Monday Night Football. Josh Allen in the brigade bringing the number one point scoring offense in the NFL in to take on Brian Flores in the Vikings defense. And it's the number one point scoring defense in the entire league. It should be a spectacle. It should be fantastic. It should be potentially monumental. As we are live on ESPN 2 tonight, we hope you will come join us. It's not just me. The toxic table was here. At Boston Conor and at Tyshmit. Patriots had on even after the embarrassment. I love that. Sweet shirt. >> Thanks, man. This is actually one of my favorites. I figured I'd wrap it up in Minnesota. Yeah. Patriots had no matter what. I mean, I was wearing this Patriots hat when Gerard Mayo was hanging out on the sidelines for a year. I'm not too worried about one bad game against a very good football team. He was at the WMBA finals. I'll have you know. That's like the first time anyone has seen him in public since he got fired. >> I mean, those head coaches getting fired both in college and the NFL can kind of put you into a professional golfer's life for a few years because all that money is guaranteed. At Tyshmit of the toxic table, obviously, Packers are flying high. I will Hawkeyes might be dancing in the playoffs. Life pretty good. >> Yeah, not bad. You know, phenomenal weekend. And then just to top it all off, I didn't even know. But you said, hey, we have biscuits and jam over here. So, this delicious biscuit and some sort of looks so flaky. >> I know there's like a boys' buried jam. >> Triple berry, that's it. >> Little bit of jam right here. >> It was a triple berry. You had some jam on your face. >> Of the side. >> On the other side. >> Well, I don't have any jam left on this. Let me kind of say for that. Yeah, there's a little bit of jam. >> Yep. >> Hey, Tyshmit, I appreciate you putting on a performance last night too. >> Got to do it, you know. >> I think we did well in the city last night. >> Yeah, how about 10 to 15 booze cocktails? >> I think good time in Minnesota. >> I think it's really started to rattle. >> We were just looking for the Sunday night football game. It was harder to find than you could imagine, especially with the Timberwolves play. And I appreciate how much they appreciate that team here. But yeah, we did a little bar hoppy last night. >> Yeah, the only bad thing was Bill telling us to go to Tom's watch bar. That place freaking stinks, man. >> No, the other reason why it stinks is because it was packed. >> Yeah, it was packed. >> The place was packed because it doesn't stink. For us, it's stunk because we were looking for a place to watch a game. We did go to an Irish place last night. We were recommended best potato soup in town. >> Uh-huh. >> By big John here who's from the northeast side here of Minneapolis. >> So I could down a couple biscuits as we speak. >> Can't get enough of the biscuits, John. >> Hey, block it over there. You got a little biscuit in John. Yeah, he certainly did. He said, "You're at the best potato soup in the state. You're going to this place." So we were sitting at the hotel. We said, "We've got to go have the best potato soup in the state." We go over there. We assume Sunday football would be on one of their five TVs. We're not just timbrose, timbrose, timbrose. We're like, "All right, we got to leave here." >> We're like, "In the wild wasn't on too." >> Exactly. By the way, wild. Tough times, I think, for my understanding. >> Then I'm putting the bears on. >> You're right. Good call. >> It was good game. I mean, I don't want to see it. >> You're right. Good call. >> It was good game. So we get to this place and we just assume we order a drink. We have a drink there, hotel, we have a drink there. We have a drink at this place. Nine of us go out, we can have again, we get up and leave. Like, wow, John Taffer would be certainly upset that just nine exact customers that you want to walk another. Lady from Irish Pub comes running out. Guys, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are you looking for? I go, I think we just kind of want to watch Sunday night football, you know. And she goes, yeah, you're going to want to go-- Yeah, get the fuck out of here. [LAUGHTER] It was the greatest. So we got a Tom's, we walked a Tom's. Tom's just packed. 30,000 people in there. I had no idea Tom's had-- It was a good place. It was all Buffalo Bill's fans. I mean, every Buffalo Bill fan, it was absolutely-- we should have caught ahead. We should have had a little bit more of a clue where we were walking into. There was nothing open out there. So we obviously snag one on the way. Let's go to another place, snag one, go to another place. Just in a hunt, we end up at Depot. We appreciate Depot Bar last night. Right next to-- Oh, legendary music place it looked like. Yeah, it was over here. The Roxy? No. Is that the name of it? It was Prince Albert Bar here? Yeah, probably. I think that was it. That was it? That might have been it, yeah. The room I was in at the hotel we were in last night. Four portraits of Prince. He was just every room you walked into, he was giving you a good look. Besides Gordon Bombay is the biggest star ever to come out of here. He says who? Gordon Bombay. Prince is the biggest star. I have some sure and open. And they know it. He's on the side of three buildings down there. I mean, Prince is everywhere. Seventh Street Entry was the name of the place, I think. But that was maybe the entrance. We walked by it. No, yeah, first Avenue and Seventh Street Entry. Yeah, there it is. It was. I mean, who's who on the wall? On the side of the wall on the outside? Let Biscuit. And it was a lot. It was a lot. Yeah. The way it ran. Yeah. Durant Iran. Beatles. See. Tony, why did you do that? No, the flow. The flow. Like the Hollywood stars. Yeah, this is the place where you're at. Depot had the Sunday football game on there. We appreciate that. I don't know if Depot has ever seen us walk into that place either, you know what I mean? I don't know. It's right next to the stadium. That's some THC concoctions. Yeah. Osco, tall one, please. Deliver. Oh, I would seem like it. I don't know. I bought 10 milligrams last night of the purple drink that they had a little bit. Sorry, getting me going. It was nice. Great time last night. The nominal, I didn't race. They were great. They're phenomenal. And the chips are nachos were unbelievable. nachos. The nachos were so good. Nick had a pizza, one of the places we want to. He had mozzarella sticks at another place we want to. Then he had a full thing of nachos. It was a huge plate of nachos. Nick had 47,000 calories in three different places that we're at. They go a little tired at the other night. Not at all. That's right. It was unbelievable. Nick was eating his way through Minneapolis. And we love it. Tonight is going to be spectacular. But it's not just about tonight. Whenever you talk about this particular day, it's about how fans are feeling, about how their teams are feeling at this exact moment. We've arrived at another glorious overreaction Monday. I put a tweet out this morning saying, I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say. All you got to use is the hashtag. I don't want to overreact. Buh. We're good to be here with you guys for this. Let's hit to him. Ty said it wasn't as good as he thought, because all the favorites won. So the winners win. Losers lose. Maybe that doesn't change anything. Here's some Evan Fox, Notre Dame legend there on the right side. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. Buh. I can't believe you internet bastards. Gillis to my head coach. Fix the offensive line. Hired a mastermind and offense coordinator. Didn't panic with the defense. Four wins in a row. Top of the class in the NFC. Build the statue already of Motor City Dan Campbell. He did get Gillis. He did not get Osama Bind, which I think is good news. Let's go to Foxy Foxy. You're pumped about where this lines team is. It does feel like they're back to being the brand new lion. The last year was a disaster. And every single problem we had, as I said, Dan Campbell fixed all of them. Yesterday it was a bit of a cagey affair against the dolphins. And it shows that, hey, we can win in different ways. The defense actually won us that one. At the beginning of the year, you would have said, we had to score 31 or more points to win any game we were in. So I'm really, really happy with what they've done and what Brad Holmes has done in the off season. He got a lot of hell from Lions fans. Brad Holmes, every movie he makes continues to be great. So I'm happy with the Lions that and continue to go here. OK, good luck to the Lions. Calvin Shepard was getting fired every single week to be ending the season now. Now they're all the way back. Let's go to the next every action. This one's out of Foxborough. Shouldn't be that bad. But that was one of the more pitiful watches as the Patriots fans since the draw. May of days. Everything stuck. However, Jordan Leven Packers gave the Patriots a midseason wake-up call. And I now expect them to light it up the last day of games. Patriots back to the Super Bowl. Is in play now more than ever. I like that overreaction out of you, Con, man. And it's genuinely how I feel. I truly think that a loss like this in the midseason area where it's not November, late November, December football. It's right at the start of November. We go to Munich next week against the Lions. That is a great get back spot to be in, especially being over there. Kind of showcase the world. Hey, drag me in the Patriots aren't that bad. And all of our five star guys, Gonzo, et cetera, et cetera, who didn't play great can now kind of maybe have a little bit of a coming back party, if you will, in the morning prime time spot. And who knows? Maybe a Jonathan Taylor or a Derek Henry or somebody gets traded up to New England because we got beat so bad and we need to kind of overcreate. Yeah, a lot of these teams doing very well before the trade deadline that we're potentially going to be buyers might slow down some of the store. Now, Jacksonville Jaguar has made a couple of massive moves today. Will anybody else follow suit? We shall see. Let's go to Woody's Hog. OK. Nice. This is Bertram, the baller of Woody's Hog. We don't think that's an animal. We think he's referring to his name. Hashtag. I don't want to ever react by Shane the third. I can genius, absolutely genius has got to go. The Indianapolis courts have literally nothing to play for. And everyone in Lucas library should wear a brown paper sack. When lose, I don't care. Football is meaningless in Indianapolis. And I like to let Woody's hog know the good thing about tanking this year is the Jets get our pick. Yeah. So every loss is helping them. And that's what people of Indianapolis have always wanted to do. Help our team in New York, New Jersey, and get them maybe the number two overall pick. I assume Colts fans were pretty loud in this hashtag. I don't want to ever react. But in that streets, certainly. A couple of other ones saying that while the plan of field isn't necessarily impressive, the fact that they were able to close the window so quickly, so fans didn't jump out of it in like a mass exodus, mass suicide kind of thing. They're mentioning that, but hey, listen, not good, not good. Anytime you're getting Osama Bind, and then you're also getting third-rikined in the same season. I didn't even know that was possible. I thought we were going to win that game. No, you didn't. Don't touch the boys fault. Don't touch the guys. We gave up a chunk play late. But back to that name, I don't get the name. What's the reference there? Third-rikin Nazis. Yeah. Right. OK. Now we're going to go play football there next week. Go to the game. In Indianapolis, were you on a football game? No, there's a game in Germany next week. Guten Tag. Everybody's made mistakes in the past. They're keeping me alert about it now. They are massive football fans over there. Oh, yes. And I don't like what they're doing to Shane Stuykin right now. OK. This guy was doubt a hand. He could have ever win. No. I don't think he could have ever won. You go back. I'm not doing it right now. We'll do this later this week if anything happens. I think I know where it's starting, where it ended, for Shane Stuykin. I like that he, Dan Jones, does choose to end every game with an interception. I mean, it was dagger route. Like, everybody knows it's coming. He's-- yeah, but he's still throwing it. It's movable, it's nice. Piss and half. I'll tell you, I love arm. I was in the building. I heard a lot of-- exactly. I heard a lot of fans. Like, three of them, louder than everybody else, as the team was jogging in half time. Two Shane Stuykin, telling him to put anti-richs in the fucking game. I don't know that. I genuinely don't know at this point. I don't know what-- I don't know. He might as well. See, I wonder why not at this point. Well, now we're past the point and put them in there, where maybe we could showcase him and trade him too. So-- I didn't happen. I want to play QB for the Colts, man. Why can't one of us just go out there and spin in a couple of times? I want to play. How happened to Joe Bell? Yeah. Arvel Rees said, how are you doing? That was like Anthony Richardson from the Baltimore Preseason game, actually, where you just got absolutely blown up. It's not an easy position. Maybe Anthony's ready. Maybe we're far too gone for that. And his Daniel Jones is going to get traded. I think tonight has big implications on that. Yeah, I don't know who's going to trade for Daniel Jones. That would be crazy. But-- Bar and Stormers, maybe? Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Yeah, the fish are straight. They might be trying to sell some tickets. Evan, we know this is how the game ended. I will. There are other highlights in there. I will say you guys found a star. You guys found a star. So when you sell Jonathan Taylor for part time, the dollar, you got Seth McGahn coming in. We give this guy a touchdown. This Seth guy number 20, he's very good for. We're very grateful for him. Should we not be feeding Jonathan Taylor touchdowns if we're trying to trade this guy? Fair point. If we're going to have him on a field risking injury, and we're going to trade him, we shall at least get him into the paint whenever we have way lost to shoot. Shoot, came off. We'll call a time out. Get his ass back out there. Jonathan Taylor, two touchdowns. Good news. As opposed to Jonathan Taylor, as we run for our yards two weeks at the score, touchdown. All of a sudden, people are going to start talking like he's not the one of the best players at all ball. He is. I like where Woody's hog was at. Let's go to the next one. This one's great. Fantasy guru one. Hashtag. Bye. Mike McDickhead. I liked that. Needs to go. Chargers are gone. know where seeing this guy on TV trying to determine if what he's looking at as a play sheet or a goddamn Chinese take out many of just embarrassing a football. Move on and save Herbert's career. They really be going after McDaniel over there because what has become since he's become their offense coordinator, which is the worst ball Justin Herbert's ever played. He's throwing him in, having cheeses to everybody. People are saying he's going to do it. He is doing it. He has regressed him mightily when everybody expected him to be an absolute superstar. What's the new piece in a building? It's McDaniel. I even saw some people saying he wanted to get away from the field. He wanted to get a little further away from the action a little bit more aerial. Yeah. They say he's not far enough away from the booth. How much further can he go? Anyone can do this in Ukraine. Okay. What? Yeah. For the front line. It's so hard. Don't be pleased. My eyes on X. Is there not a contingency of people or chargers fans saying that McDaniel moves away from the field to get a better view on it? Obviously didn't move far enough. Let's maybe pick him up and drop him over and you other war zones. I think is what they're saying. Yeah, they're saying that's still not far enough. Where else you going to send them? I watched a lot of going on. I watched every snap of that game to see if they had a camera on his shoes. They didn't. I was very disappointed. Yeah, but if they were doing good, you don't have shoes on. You want shoes, Joe? Hey, McDaniel, we still appreciate your contributions to ball, but this has been an absolutely disappointing failure out here with the chargers. And they like their gosh. Yeah, I can't. How? Why would you? What's the what's the point? I mean, at least they like, if you tell me Jeremiah Smith on the chargers next year, we're going to do this whole song and dance again, where the chargers are going to be awesome. Jeremiah might go back to school. Mike McDickhead won't be there though. No, baby, little Harbaugh. He might be a coach. He might be a savior. He's playing QB for the cold to go. Yeah. Head coach starting quarterback. Ring of honor. Remember, I don't know how often that has happened in the history of the NFL. We're ready for it over here. Let's go to Tanner Rahn. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but J. Lowe treated Gonzo like page six treated waves. Ganon is launching fucking nuclear codes with this defense. And one isn't even back yet. MVP assistant coach of the year. Super bowl all coming. God bless Green Bay, Wisconsin. You're the one picking me. What the fuck, man? That's not cool. Well, I told you, hey, that's not fucking cool. Listen, page six. What the fuck? Well, you shouldn't see what other things people were saying. This one was pretty tame in comparison. Yeah, you could assume what jokes were flying after, you know, this morning. Okay, especially with love. Yes, exactly. And recent news of maybe a comeback. You can understand. Okay, but I did my best to find one that wasn't just incredibly inappropriate. We used to be. We used to be the ones that you couldn't know. They've been to lead. They're not allowed. Not even a lot of see your eyes, because I know it'll somehow make its way onto the program. But on that note, I appreciate everything that just happened there. I think you did a good job. And J. Lowe does feel like he is a guy. Yeah, in an interesting J. Lowe's recorder back used to be a rod. A rod and J. Lowe used to date, right? Yeah, they did. Wow. Love really coming together in a little bit terribly, though. So we don't, I don't want to think, but I think Farve actually did the wedding. Oh, yeah, really? For a rod and J. Lowe, I believe he was. I know him and a rod are very tight. Yeah. Aaron or Alex. Alex Rodriguez and Brett Farveard, like super good friends. And we know Aaron and Brett are tight now. Yeah. And we know Aaron and a rod, probably pretty tight. Alex Rodriguez. How does zoom, so a rod and a rod? Yep. So maybe it's all coming up for you guys to win the Super Bowl. I won't deny it. Jordan loves good player. He's really good. Do you believe in the floor? Diamond stretch? All right. As we see, but when you got a quarterback playing this good, that was kind of the whole thing is, hey, is the floor one of these games? Or is it just Rogers that's kind of? So we'll see. Listen, I'll tell you what, when your defense is playing like that and your quarterback is playing like that, that can maybe make up for some of the deficiencies that the head coach has. They've been ready to play, though. They've been ready to play the lot of kicking him. Well, you know, he made a bunch of big kicks today. That was great about Trace Mac. If you're up by 20, 30 points, he will make all his kicks. I'd like to see him do it in a game where it's tied or, you know, stretch and lambo. He's got a big leg. He's got a big leg, but doesn't matter if you have a big leg when you're getting 27 and 33 yard, you know, feel all opportunities. I'm going to need to see him make a couple of those when it's not cut in time, because he has not proved he can do that yet. Maybe we're all waiting. Exactly. I can't believe he's still on your team. They need to. They really believe in him, which I love. Maybe he'll turn into a guy who believes in himself, too. Yeah, biggest piece of it all. And maybe they have that bat. So just on speed dial. Just waiting. She's got to make a decision over there. Yeah, I was about to say, this is just time of year. We're just kickers. This is where it really to my separation Saturday. It's at like because Bucker Aubrey. Mr. Couple for the Cowboys who we, you know, he was off to an unbelievable start. This that time of year was just kind of an anomaly. Yeah, I wonder if leg speeds are in a slowdown, you know, long season halfway through the season. You can potentially be dealing with something. So if you deal with something, you're not swinging as fast or so, then you have to, you're timing all changes up. So everything's timing and it's all happening so quick. So if you have a little bit of soreness or a little bit tired, a little bit of a tweak, all that can go off. Little on Bucker had been dealing with his knee, you know, I mean, he missed the, he missed the same kick five or close. That was crazy. Yeah, anytime you get a re kicking, you know, again, people aren't going to like that, especially in the NFL. It's like a mulligan, you know, like you get a mulligan at it. You're not going to miss college kids aren't going to miss it. Kicking is easy contest, guys don't miss them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is kind of the thing. So him doing that crazy situation, we'll probably find out he's got a little something wrong with him. This is Justin Perry. Hashtag. But my father has Alzheimer's. That means I'll probably get it. I used to be sad about it, but then I realize I'll be able to forget all the years I've wasted on the Atlanta. How's there a fuck Nick Foley? Nick Foley is not a lot of good for ball straight from Justin. He missed the catch. Yeah, he missed it. And he got a commentator cursed. Okay. It was his first missus 2017, like 115 straight made field culture. And a message in Spain and all of a sudden this guy, thank God, I'm getting Alzheimer's. I don't have seen Nick Foley anymore. Hey, we hope you're okay. I like the positivity of this. Yeah. And tell your dad we love them too. But man, I'm sorry for all of that. Let's go to the next one, Derek Bridges. Hashtag. I don't overreact. But big dog is lost as fast ball. Locker rooms broken. Offense with a sea. This must be a Canadian looks like a boozed up rap sheet. Seven straight losses. At this point, the only thing flying in Philadelphia is the standard of incumbents. An absolute embarrassment. Anyway, go birds. Philadelphia Eagles fans sitting in the middle of quite a fire. And I don't know how to get out of it. I generally don't know how to get out of it. I don't know what it looks like. We are reading our Valaricious. Pizzouca Joe got his brains back. Yeah. That's a tough spot. He did. Very tough former Patriot, former cowboy, getting an opportunity with the Eagles to start after being there for a few weeks. And the New York Giant's defense has seven sacks, dominates the game. Our Valaries gets three of them, including that wide open shot. This does not look like the Eagles. No. I think Eagles fans are about sick of saying what do the Eagles look like though? You know, if you're moving on from your best offense alignment, you got a lot of drama around the head coach every single day. Your quarterback ends up with a very, very, very serious situation with just some years aren't your years. And it feels like the last couple of years haven't been the Eagles fans years. And they're never just going to accept that. They would like to be good right now all the time. And it kind of started with Lane Johnson. Like Lane Johnson just kind of calling it. Yeah. Probably should have been the note to all of us. Like, OK, this is not going to end well in Philly this year. Now all this Eagles talk though. Them being two and seven seven straight losses. Maybe they do a stiking for Seriani trade at the at the buzzer tonight. And you guys end up with Nick Seriani. I saw a couple of tweets with Seriani coming back. They were calling him. Sorry, Johnny. Yeah, what? Yeah, I don't love it. This is KC Jones at KCK Jones 14. Hashtag. I don't want to react. But Todd Bowles by her show up to the coaches me with a bar soap inside a sock and beat the absolute dog shine out of our office coach. 10 points off of five takeaways. I miss Mike having so much. It hurts. Fuck. Yeah. Tampa, Russian ears not having a blast down there on the offensive side. Going to have to get it sorted. It was like hands lonely. Get to pick. And then literally the next play is a picksticks when they had all the momentum. Caleb gave them all the opportunities in the world last night. They were getting ton of pressure. It was just like it was nasty. It was. Jalen Johnson looked really good there. The offense. I mean, yeah, they've won that rushing the ball the last two weeks. But you can't just I mean, you can't rely on that every single game. Bake looks like he's still heard a bit. But God, yeah, I'd be so mad if I was a fucking. No, don't feel passing through it. Let's run game. But if you go back to that wide copy replay, that was that they had the linebacker on the outside, playing like a cover two corners. So he started out there with the tight end. They motioned out politics right here. So tight and started out wide. He motioned down. So Baker's thinking, okay, this has to be man and man coverage. Nope. Linebacker stayed outside. Jalen Johnson stayed in nickel. He expected, man and man did not sit. And Jalen Johnson needed this play really, really bad. He's had a rough year. They paid him big time corner for them. I need better production out of here, but yeah, this was a pain. I mean, what's five six total in a six? I think unbelievable. Let's go to the next overreaction. Shall we? This is from at cheese greater FTP. Fuck the Packers. Hashtag. I don't want over yet. But the Bears are the best team in the NFC North after overcoming five turnovers by top defense and still pulling out the victory. This team has championship DNA throughout and Caleb will return to MVP form after the buy. Bear down. Good, better best. Never let it rest to your good as better and you're better as best. Infuck the Packers. Bears are a lot to do that. Packers look really good though. I want to let you know cheese greater. Obviously Caleb Williams has four picks. He talked about how he's had three picks in high school one time, three picks in college one time. Tonight just happen to be the night that he does that. He'll come back stronger and better from that. Jeffrey Simmons has become a game record on the defensive side. The Bears are for real. Cairo Santos hits a game winner feels like he never ever misses. Roma Dunes a start in a cook. This Chicago Bears team is going to be a team that's in it down the stretch. NFC North might have a few of those. This one's from Stephen Algratta. Hashtag. I don't ever react. But victory Monday, but we barely beat what's left of the courts. We're getting water. The more we stink, the more ridiculous shot he's comically large like she looks. That being said, Niners next week. And if we beat him, I'm back in on the Cowboys Super Bowl. Yeah, could be a tough one with the Niners and the Cowboys, but you get a win over a good team, over Sunday. Everybody gets excited. Now Cowboys beat the Colts and all I hear all morning on TV. Is everybody being like Cowboys are dead. Cowboys are dead. We're still a professional football team. Still got guys that can, you know, compete. I think winning that game was a big deal. Easy to get done. Yeah, and not be fired up for this coach game in Indianapolis. Cowboys fans took over the stands. Team is quitting on the other side. These are still professional athletes, though. There's a chance that you can suffer a historic embarrassing loss. They don't, they get a win. They battle through. I think that's a big deal. I think it's going to be a lot easier to get up for the Niners than it was for the Colts. They get out of India with a dub. I think that's good not bad. Yeah, a win is a win in the National Football League. Now there, we are at the point of season where we're seeing this first and we know who the teams are. So when you're becoming yourself and the team, hey, we want to beat the shit out of teams that we should beat the shit out of now to make you feel better after the game, even with the Bears after that game. You saw the Ben Johnson post game better gets best. It was, you know, not as much energy. You got to get a win. However, you got to get it done in Lions. They didn't have a great offensive production type thing, but you go down to Miami. You find a way to get one. Sneak one out of there. So wins the win in this league. Find a way to get one. Yeah, everybody's killing the Cowboys because they only beat the coach by a few. Olds are going to give everybody a problem. It's going to be a close game or it's not. Yeah, yeah, the jacks. You can't give Jake removed. See the jacks that a perfect example of a team that's showing up the place. Yeah, everybody's we're going to be shit out of the bad teams. 20 points. They got 20 points on a regular basis, which is why Liam Cohen not. They got the Titans this week. They're favorite by 10. So they're going to cover that. A lot of people feel about Liam Cohen the way Chuck. We got on with us. I don't like what Chuck the Chuck chance. Chuck didn't like what it did either. He apologized. He did apologize. Got caught up. It's easy. He caught up in the moment of thunder dome man. But if he keeps doing stuff like that late afternoon. Yeah, I mean, he had quite a day. He did quite a day on Thursday. I got when it was announced, game days going to Boise, Boise, which is where Chuck lives, you know, full time. All capital letters. Is this real? It's just. I know you have a hotel probably. I got five star accommodations for you. You're doing gumpy. Both come stay in the house full switch. Overlooking a golf course. We got a pool. If you want us to heat it back up, please come. These are the hospitality community for the entire city. We can't wait to get out the Boise and Liam Cohen. I don't like how they're disrespecting when he's done down there. I know John Horball gets to the Giants and the Giants are a massive team. Big city every out of out of out of out of it. It's like the fucking Jaguars dude are unbeatable. I think we should give that guy. Maybe some glad stone too. Yeah, yeah, stoner, like 26 year old general manager down there making a lot of plays today. I assume they're only getting started and all. Let's go to the last one here. This one's from Todd Villarreal. Hashtag. But I'll quickly everybody seem to forget that the 49ers are the best team in ball elite defense. An MV party is getting it done with whoever's left a wide receiver. This team is winning the fucking Super Bowl. Hashtag bang, bang. Niner gang can grasp them and he get the forest Buckner back. Yeah, I don't know what the stats were, but Raiders didn't run for anything against them. I don't think they were able to do much and he got introduced last. That was what a fourth round pick was worth from the Indianapolis Colts. We're completely defeated without buck. Niners continue their dominance. They are undefeated with buck back in the building. There's a photo from the locker room afterwards. Do you see this? Buckner hanging out, George Kiddles in there. Boss has got a big old hog in there. Use checks hanging. I mean, it is. And they said Buck looks like he's never left. Back like he never left. It literally looked like that. It looked like he said there it is right here. Jesus Christ. Yeah, with Christian McAfry's in there. Look so happy to be home is what Alex Transhance like. It's like he never left. You check on far right. Absolutely. He has old school 10, by the way. I think he has half of it. Oh, I don't doubt it. Christian McAfry there. George Kiddles living his best life. And then Buckner saying thank God, I'm back here, which is what he said he did when he found out he's going to get traded back to the Niners. Hit the knees. Thank you. Thank the Lord. And he's back there. What a feeling. It's got to be for him. Simmons. He go from there and he just get into a whole new bit. Just a breath of new worst teams in the league. Yeah, number one teams. So we got to talk to Jeffrey Simmons last week before Monday night football. And I know Jeffrey a little bit. I've been him a couple times. I got a chance to know him a couple times. He's the man. He is phenomenal. And not that he need me to say this or anybody to say this. But I can graduated among getting traded to the Bears. Very hard for him to get traded. He was a pillar of the national communities families down there. The human aspect of his terrible, but it was so obvious. Like this is going to be good for the Jeffrey Simmons brand, brother. Yeah. Like everybody on earth is about to learn about you. And he did night one. Yep. Then he backed it up again. And then guess what? Every game going forward. Like he has done with the Tennessee Titans. He's going to disrupt the game just like Miles Garrett coming back. I mean, it is the Jeffrey Simmons brand by the end of this. He's going to be up for defensive MVPs and Chicago and forward. And that's what happens whenever you go from the outhouse to the pen house. Yeah. And a lot of people could experience that before tomorrow, four o'clock. Oh, yeah. That's true. Like you said, even awards. Because now people with both his games with the Bears been primetime. He's going to be primetime. He's going to be playing off games like there it is. Defensive player. There's up the third now. Okay. He's got primetime games down the stretch. Yeah, bunch more. Everybody's going to see him. He's going to kill. He's got those sleeves. Everybody's going to literally see him just throw bodies around noon at Christmas. There are one o'clock Christmas. He's got the Packers on Netflix. He's going to kill that game as well. You know, the packs might be able to get a win over this bear's team. Thanks, giving us the lions. Oh, my God. Yeah, Jeffrey Simmons brand is going to be harder than ever. Stinks personally to get traded from a city in which you wanted to call home for the rest of your life and you have your roots in. But wherever you go to a place that is in the middle of a Super Bowl run, your entire brand and name and legacy and football life changes alongside of it. You're going to statue up there in Chicago. He wins. He knows that. All right. Intent. All lives turned to tonight, boys. Buffalo bills. Traveling to take on a Minnesota Vikings. AJ Hawk took the bills minus three. I'll make my pick on Monday night countdown. Before last week, I think I was in the lead on Monday night countdown. I'm picked, said the games right. I think it's 500. I don't think it's that good of a record. It's been tough. Still in the lead. Tough games. Tough. I'll make my pick that. Talk to table at Boston Connor. We're going to be on the call. So maybe. Yeah, Herbie rule. Yeah, you want to opt out entirely. Yeah, I'm taking the bills. All right. That's time. I think we can clean sweep this one. I don't want to speak for anybody else, but we know Karl ones. We know Karl ones a little too well. Okay, two bills there. Talks table. One half the hammer. Cowboys, AP tone, bills minus three or three bills. It's got a nine year NFL vet. There is a brother going to be on a call tonight. Feel pass ESPN too. As we make our way to the soup. Well, somehow hopefully folks will watch time and enjoy the game alongside of us. It was super surprise. Special guests joining throughout. Who do you like? How do you like it? I guess I'll stick with the trend of the week. The favorites winning. Wow. I'll go with. I don't want to do it. We're in their house. I don't want beautiful house. You know what? You know what? Nope. I'm going back. I'm waffling. I like KOS. You play deep. I like Flores. I like Hitman. I like Carl Whitts. Give me the Minnesota Vikings. Wow. I was like, son of a bitch. I think the entire Minnesota army is in the building down there. There's been some action that has started to buzz here on the far side, far side. Yep. That's where we're headed. We thank them for their service. We don't know exactly who they are, but there is a bunch of them. We feel very safe. We are very appreciative for them. As tonight's Monday night football festivities are about to be electrifying. All right. From all of us, all of you, we can't thank you enough. You're the best people on earth to the crew that sent us all up. Great work. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, John. To the boys that are sitting at tables. Just a few feet away from us. Good work, Fox. Good work, boys. Good work, boys. Oh, Faso in the back there. He's been traveling, working well. Shout to Parker down there. He said Buffalo Bills about to run wild. He likes to run wild. See if he can go through. No, he but the only one on the Vikings plus three here. We'll be back tomorrow live from the Thunder Dem. Great work boys, tonight ESPN 2, let's have fun out there. There we go, let's go. Be a friend, tell a friend some nice of my change of life on this thing together. Great work, everybody. Thank you for letting us do this. We're starting a basement tonight. We call Monday night football for the second time. What an absolute joke. What wouldn't happen if it wasn't for-- you are the best. Team on me, team on three. Monday night football, baby. Monday night countdown starts at 6. Field pass, 8.15 on ESPN 2. Let's have the greatest night of our lives. One, two, three, team. Good night.