PMS 2.0 1644 - MNF Recap, Pat Freiermuth, Rece Davis, PK Subban, Ian Rapoport, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our hump on the boat the draft Kings Thunderdown on this frozen friendsy Tuesday on September 13th, 2026. This work program begins now Happened last night in Los Angeles in a huge way. I thought the game had the fixing used to be biblical to be epic the first half kind of lame. Okay, there's a couple special teams blunders, there's a couple red zone stops, had a couple field goals, there was a Josh Allen arm punt, you okay, basically a turnover. Still don't think he should have done that. Think he should have got it first down and tried to move the sticks but throwing it that deep at that particular time with the amount of time didn't think it was that big of a deal. We get on a half time. We start teaching about hey Devonte did a little something to red zone that's special, Buffalo found a little something with maybe a little drop off path to tie Johnson. Obviously James Cook has a 17 yard scaper in there. Maybe they find it in second half or maybe this just doesn't live up to the building. Well second half was electrifying. The boys found it. The boys figured it out and this Josh Allen character is somebody that might just be the will to win in a human form. Now is what he's doing something that's going to be able to carry him for 10 years. Is he going to be able to play football like this for until he's a 40 year old man. Honestly, I don't know. I have no idea how he's able to handle all the hits that he takes. I've no idea how he's able to make the plays that he makes. I have no idea how he's able to do what he does and he'll make a bonehead play out of nowhere. Last week he was in his own end zone through the ball backwards like this. He had no idea who that was there. No, just threw it like this because he didn't want to get a safety. But at pick six is even worse than a safety. He did not care in that moment because he still has this childish joy. It seems like while he's playing football, every play could be the play that could change the game and he does it all the time. Congrats to him. Congrats the big ball bass for making a game winner after having maybe a little tough start and congrats to the Buffalo Bill is getting a huge litmus test win over to Los Angeles Rams, who a lot of people have questions about. But you make a kick you win that game. There's a lot of different situations that could have happened where the Los Angeles Rams come out of their victorious instead. They lose again, which a lot of people are talking about. Miles Garrett's still not on the football field for them. We have no idea whenever he's going to return what he's going to be. Aaron Donnell gets a fumble recovery which we appreciate and the offense is doing record brick and shit and they're still losing games. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, the building was electric last night. There's a lot of Buffalo Bills fans in there. There's a lot of Los Angeles Rams fans in there. It did feel like it was a bowl game type atmosphere, but both of them had a lot to cheer for at different times. This Los Angeles Rams team, they have so many studs who had such great, I mean, Blake Korn made a little bit. Aaron Williams made a little bit. Devonte Pucca went crazy record brick and night. What do you think about where the Rams are right now? And is this a bigger story about the Buffalo Bills and maybe just the will to win that they have? I mean, it's a story about both quarterbacks, both teams, the Rams. Like you said, offensively, I did everything you wanted them to do as far as moving the ball. The Bills coming in, that was the question. The Bills secondary had been picked the part and Matt Staff is going to come in there and be able to throw the ball with the tight ends, the running backs, the wild receivers that he has. But Josh Allen, the way he was just able to figure out a way to win the game because he wasn't able to throw the ball that well. That effect of either Rams are doing a great job kind of dropping back, keeping it a lot in front of him. He wasn't really deciphering that zone coverage. So he just started tucking the ball and running over 120 yards on the ground. And it's a problem because when you're in coverage, when you're a defender, underneath the fender, a deep defender, you're kind of stuck in that box. Okay, do I guard my guide, do I guard my zone or do I kind of go and try to tackle this mutant in the open field. So he took advantage of that all throughout the game. But like you said, both teams had legit opportunities to win the game. And that's what you're going to have when you have MVP quarterbacks and good head coaches, but the bill is found the way to get it done. You're talking about this monster of a man that's freak that is Josh Allen. There are some monster shots. I mean, he, him and Kinshin stood stood straight up. I mean, I was a stalemate. Two balls running into each other and beating right in the middle, a ramp, if you will, and a bill, if you will, let me into each other. And then that part right there. So like he's obviously big and strong. So boom, this is the hit you're talking about. But before that, you got lamb man out there in the island and open space. So you got this big 240, 250 pound after kind of like cam was, he can shake you or run you over it. So just lower the leverage there is what. So they're both looking for that. But they immediately, and this is something I think that if I was an offense coordinator after watching this more live, yeah, he could do that to anybody. Lamb man got some though too. Oh, yeah. From like 670 yards off the ball. And yes, I'm sorry, new exactly where to go. Blua guy. I mean, it was one of the biggest shots we've seen. Maybe since point versus. Sarah can maybe for an in lamb man was out in coverage 20 seconds later. I don't know how these humans do it. But I don't know how you guys did it. There's been some monster collisions this year. Oh, yeah. It feels like we're getting bigger up now. We got bigger people on the field. Yeah. Remember a lot more 13 personnel. Last night, I saw three of their tight ends doing pat and go. I don't know. Maybe six, seven, six, I don't know what they're listed at. And if they're wearing lifts, like the smaller wrestlers do, I don't they I caught on the triple tires. It really looked like that. And they're getting it too. I mean, they're catching a ball off the ground. It's like the athleticism for the size and the speed that the NFL currently has is outrageous. And Josh Allen is a great depiction of all that. Oh, yeah. And what he's able to do with the rock, what staffer's able to do with the rock thought last night could be an epic game. It turned into one and the bills get a massive dub. The talks that it was here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmitt, the bills window. Maybe always going to be open with Josh Allen, a quarterback, Swagu, Marcus Spears, who I've enjoyed getting to meet and know and work alongside. He's big takeaway last night was Josh Allen can't be doing this like this cannot be really a sustainable winnable option. Whenever James Cook is operating, which James Cook's got to hang onto the ball, he is very good at football. Unbelievable. Football. The ball is the program. And because he is so good, they still give him opportunities with the ball. He has more fumbles than anybody that the running back position. Those are crazy. He got away with a win last night. Hopefully this is learning less than nice reminder for him forever because he is a special talent out of the backfield. But Marcus Spears big take was like, need James Cook to get in rhythm. Then let Josh Allen do his stuff and then the more extra same conversation with like Caleb Williams, same conversation with a lot of the guys who, you know, are great athletes, best athletes on the field in their mind always have been want to kind of do their own shit, but a system is a system. It feels like Joe Brady's system is like Josh Allen doing his thing. Is this sustainable? And as a Patriots fan, what are your thoughts at fresh off a win over them? But what are your thoughts on this Buffalo Bill steam this year? I mean, I think it's sustainable. I think this is Josh Allen. Josh Allen is Josh Allen. And Joe Brady system is what it is. Josh Allen could do what he does in any system. You know, he is so good at football. I think my biggest takeaway is if you're a defense, you have to play a perfect game. Like the he had 120 yards on the ground, but half the time it was good coverage on the back end. And then one guy up front on the D line, either over runs him, misses a tackle, and then he's gone. Like if you don't play perfectly, if you don't do, you know, the rushing lanes, you guys talk about all the time against guys like Lamar, like you got to stick to your rushing lanes because if you go past them all of a sudden, he's out of the pocket and he's gone, he's going to play well. When it comes to Josh, if you don't pitch a perfect game, he's going to take advantage of last night's going to happen over and over again. And man coverage, you're dead, right? Yeah, because you got your back to Josh. Yeah, he got to go zone, but then for zone, you got to keep people back. And if you don't flood the box, then you don't have enough people to keep Josh contained. And then Josh has one of the strongest arms in ball that they can get over top of you if they need to secure looked fast. You have a line. He looked faster than ever last night. Can you just talk a little bit about that? How if you play man and Josh sees your back, he's going to come meet you. He's just going to come chase you basically. Yeah. But if you play zone, you don't have enough people. Like what is the way to stop Josh? That's why the mobile quarterback is always the great equalizer. Like you say, you can have a perfect down everyone can be covered and then he can just take off. So yeah, even in zone coverage, a lot of zone coverage, especially NFL now, it's like kind of like zone matches. So yeah, I have a zone, but once this guy gets into my zone, especially for quarterbacks, it's sitting to play at the kind of plaster that guy you always hear plaster a lot. If you're playing the bills, especially coming in last night without DJ Moore in the web, the corners, the cover guys at the Rams have you want to play man coverage? That's where you win because you don't think that their receivers can beat you down after down in man coverage. So if you don't have a spy and once again, the spies like we talk about Jeremiah Smith, like you know, on Friday, it's going to look great. We got two or three guys on them. Then four goes up and make a play. It's great having the spy on tape or on film on Friday or Saturday to walk through, but then it's been 17 actually gets an open feel. It's a whole different ball game. The whole sustainability question is it sustainable? We haven't seen I guess quarterbacks win superbows with this style freestyle. Usually it's like, hey, you got it. We always say you got to be able to win from the pocket. Even like early Lamar Jackson, it was like the big, you know, cry for that system was, hey, put them in a pass and break and win and operate from the pocket. So yeah, Ken, but Josh Allen has the ability to operate from the pocket. So yeah, I can understand what Swag was saying and you you talked about the hits. Like at some point, those when you see Josh Allen be great and win if you piece, but somewhat break down towards the end of season where he's a tough guy. He's going to play games, but you're not your full self. So that's what a lot of people say when you talk about the sustainability of just that body throughout the NFL season, but the way the things that he's been able to do is just by him getting over the hump now in the playoffs. Yeah, Josh Allen, you talk about him like every other position like he's banged up. Like yeah, he's banged up. What does that mean? Well, he's just not 100. What it could be a rib could be, I mean, could have a bruise thigh could have anything of the sort because he does just go back and play. There's a lot of pocket passers. We've seen them. It's not great, okay? They survive though. If anybody's close, they just go down like little babies. I mean, oh yeah, right away. Like literally doing this, like just curl up into a little ball and whoever touches me gets sack. Congratulations. Take like three hits a season. four hits to see. He's taking the equivalent of those four hits that those guys take in one play. And then he's taking 40 more of them. He's that slide. Ever. He's trying to blow man wins. I get it. He's so tall. And he's literally trying to scoop under guys to run him over. It is. I mean, he's a he's a he's an anomaly. He's a phenomenon. I don't know how he's going to survive. Hopefully he is able to forever. He's been able to do it in the past. Can they want to suit Bull like this? They've been close. Yeah, so cool. They've been so close. And he is, uh, congratulations him first ever over time, one. Yeah. Yeah. We've seen some of the others heartbreak. Yeah. For an entire ton up there in Buffalo. Not many of us. I also like in this, uh, we'll not get chatted about enough. I like the Josh Allen Matthew Stafford where the two captains for the coin tosser over time. I like that they were representing their programs. Now, there is a conversation about quarterbacks working with the offense. Cormary knows trying to get every last piece of information as we're heading into the most important part. Sometimes you'll see specialists out there. I specialist, which we will talk about here in about a second or so about the special teams aspect of everything going on in LA. Big kickoffer turn just start that entire thing. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Miss kick early. Yep. Miss kick late. Mm-hmm. Some coverage stuff. Mm-hmm. That's a lot. Can't have it. But every once in a while, you'll see like a specialist out here, which, you know, let's pick which way we want to go. You'll see somebody else from the team out there representing. I really liked with how that game went and what that game was that Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford came out and just kind of handled it. And I like that the ref was just very clear that this is one. Hey, this shit's over after this one. I don't know if Washer didn't got the same message from their ref during the coin toss. If that is what happened, we still don't know. But I like that this is how this started. I thought it was good for the game last night. I thought last night was good for the game. Great for the game. I like it too. And you just mentioned it. I wonder did Jaden Daniels go out there for his coin toss time because it is and I'm sure we could find that that footage because you do hear the rules, you know, one last time. A lot of times when you're watching all the games, you got on the four box and I listen to the audio. But it is like that last reminder, like, hey, end of this period. If it ends at the tie, that's what it's going to be. So yeah, I'd be interested. No, if Jaden Daniels went out there because, you know, everyone's talked about it, you know, however many times that was just ridiculous. And we still don't know how the hell that happens. Will we ever somebody will have a podcast at some point? Yeah, that's then what happened. And to my point that I was just talking about there a little bit, special teams for the Rams. I mean, don't really fully comprehend what's going on over the Beavis, Meavis, sorry, Meavis has been one of the best kickers in the league, one of the purest hitting kickers in the league. I mean, he was split in upright dead center for the Los Angeles Rams. As soon as he got the opportunity, out of Mizoo, this year early, first one in a football game week two, he missed one there misses a couple last night. This one gets blocked. I guess it's going to happen. But the special teams was real problem for them. And I love Bubba, but that is just abnormal for a team that has Super Bowl odds as high as they do tie. Yeah, and this has kind of consistently been a Rams thing over the last couple of years, like depending on what metric you want to measure it by, but they've been near the bottom of the NFL and special teams all around. You mentioned it first opening kickoff. The bills take one back 70 yards and like I would imagine that Rams fans feel this too, because like as a Packers fan, I feel like I live this for so many years. It was like when you have so many superstars on both offense and defense and you pay all that money, exactly. There's not a lot to left over to fill out your roster with like good, good, really good special teamers. And yeah, it lost them the game last night, partially. Now there are other things that happen, but like this is the kind of stuff that will always come back to bite you in the ass in the playoffs. Always, I don't care what it is. If it's a close game like that, you give up a massive return, you get a field goal blocked. You mentioned how, you know, Mevis has missed a couple like it does kind of seem like they just focus on like, our offense is good enough. We know we're going to score a bunch of points. And when we get healthy on defense, like we really it should never come down to special teams. But in the NFL, like invariably, at the most important time, it always comes down to special teams. And it almost seems like they're okay with that. Although I would assume that Sean McVey, especially with how pissed he was after the game, my site. There's going to be some changes whenever you get to the games of importance when it's cold and when it's playoffs. If you can't stop the run, you're going to get exposed. And if your quarterback can't make a third and seven out, you're going to get exposed. And if your special teams is asked, you're going to get exposed now more than ever with the kickoff having to land inside the kick zone. What have the hammer done? Cowboys, AP tone. It goes over last night. It goes over what nobody could have expected. And bills get to cover. And dogs now continue to cook on prime time. Yeah. So there was some separate stats out there. Obviously it went over everyone was on the over last night last two time or the last time these two teams played. It was 80 points. I believe they scored over 80 points. And then yeah, so different stats, either seven in a row or nine in a row, depending on how you had the Rams in the Broncos game earlier in this year on prime time. Go to the dogs straight up, like not even against the spread. Dogs are going on the road. Dogs are at home and dogs are dominating on prime time. You asked debuts why that's happening yesterday. Not sure. I can't come up with a great reason on why that's happening other than, you know, there's a lot of eyes on prime time. So there's a lot more action on prime time. And there's a lot more people just taking the public favorites, which are not doing well this year. I had 32, 43 and three. If you're getting 50% or more of the bets, if it's three points or more, 11, 23 and three, if it's seven points or more, four, 12 and three, if you're getting 50% or more of the bets, so fade the public season is on. But the dogs are dominating prime time. Yeah. Fade the public. Fade last night. I got it right, which I'm pretty bummed out. I feel very excited about that. Maybe that carries in the next week. It's been hard to predict. Yeah. I mean, it's been really hard to predict. I mean, I could have never expected what happened in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania this past weekend. You bunch of dogs. I think you could have maybe never. You could have made it out. I don't like the reaction to the beginning of an intro, um, which I didn't expect to. Now stats told us that that potentially was going to happen. 29 to eight is for sure going to happen. I didn't see that. What's that? Was that one you just? That's the Steelers first. The Colts all time. 29 to eight. Oh, what about there though? In hot, in highs? Yeah. Back to sure. At the sure. Undefeated, probably. I said, and after London, I think teams are like, Oh, in 2000. So maybe we could have expected what happened in Pittsburgh, but we're excited about his friend of the program. A man whose legs are the size of Clydesdale's abnormally large bottom half. Because this man has had to bring the power at the tight end position for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's in a six season at a Penn State. He's a made man. And JJ Watts said that coach McCarthy told him he sees probals in this guy's future. Had two touchdowns this past weekend. Has great hands. Haven't always got a chance to showcase them. This year feels like it might be different. Ladies and gentlemen, Pat Friar moves. What's going on, bud? What's up, man? How are you doing? Do you think about letting the coats win? Because life sucks for a long time or no? No, definitely not. We needed a win to get back on track. We needed it. Yeah, I heard it was getting loud over there in Pittsburgh. Obviously, we have Yンzer's around us that have been chitchatting about every single football season. You've been a part of with Pittsburgh. Let's talk about this football season that you've been having with Pittsburgh. Aaron Rogers, obviously a big fan of you, the person this year feels like you're a more focal target in the passing game. Do you feel that is correct? And when did you realize that was probably going to be the case? Yeah, I definitely see myself as more focal point of the offense. Definitely probably in OTAs in in camp. I started getting the kind of feel that Aaron and Coach McCarty were going to use me and my strengths. And I just feel like it was just kind of a natural process trying to lean on, you know, the tight end room with me and don't know throughout the camp in OTAs. Yeah, Mount Washington obviously is having an incredible start of the season as well. The Steelers offense has been spectacular this year. Steelers fans a little be fuddled about what's happening as first downs are taking place and touchdowns and winning by more than one or two at all times. Is this a Mike McCarty kind of mindset and offensive head coach mindset? Why do you think the offense is so prolific right now and seemingly has all of Pittsburgh excited to watch the games as opposed to holding on for dear life? Yeah, I mean, I think Coach McCarty has done a great job of kind of, you know, challenging the offense to go out there and win games on offense. Instead of kind of relying on the defense to, you know, win those games for us. So I feel like we're playing some good climber team football right now and we just kind of continue to keep going. What's Mike McCarty like day to day? What were your expectations of what he was going to be like and then what is he actually like? Yeah, I mean, I thought he was going to be extremely detailed and he definitely is that our schedules are very detailed, very oriented, you know, where we're in there throughout the day and really going through meetings throughout the whole day and very structured, which is good. I think the guys have been pretty responsive towards it and yeah, he's definitely everything I expected. I didn't expect his Pittsburgh accent to be as thick as it is, but it's pretty thick in the, you know, the offensive meetings and the team installs. So he sees probals in your future. JJ Watts said that and then you have a quote that said, you think you and Mount Washington are the best tight end duo in the league. Mike McCarty, these offenses have been successful since the beginning. I'm happy that's continuing, especially for you guys in Pittsburgh, defense, continuing to do their thing. AP tones flying real hard fireworks around this Thunderdome. >> Yes, he is. >> Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate that. Sunday nights are a lot better. My wife and kids aren't avoiding me, so that's cool. No, I wanted to ask you about getting under center. When it's 4th, 3rd and 1, I see you get under center and then big Mount Washington's behind you. It's almost a guarantee at this point. When did that happen? I heard Aaron maybe was teaching you how to take snaps? >> Yeah, they kind of approached me during camp and asked if I've ever taken a snap under center and I haven't since sophomore year at my high school under the wing T-offense. I didn't tell him this, but I probably averaged a fumble or two a game just for the center or back exchange. I went to Aaron and approached him about how to take a snap and he's been pretty good at telling me and kind of found a hand placement that I like and so it's been good. >> Sweet spot there with Frazier. I took some sense as 3rd Stringer and for the Colts every week had to do a couple. You're doing this every week? How many snaps are you taking a week? >> Everyday probably between 5 and 10 every day and different full work and it's been good. >> How's the cadence? You got any hard counts in him? >> Not yet. I've perfected the cadence. I feel like I think everyone's pretty happy about it. That was my biggest anxiety. Still it's probably before every play is making sure the cadence is good for the old line so they'll be the McCormick will tell me if it sucks so he isn't home yet. >> Is he the right guard? >> Yes, he's the left guard. >> What's his problem? He needs to relax out there. He's tossing Colts around and screaming and laughing in their face. I don't like anything about it. >> When he came out of college, there was a sick highlight tape of him out of South Dakota state. I believe it was to some heavy metal rock. He's an absolute lunatic. >> Laughing. This guy having a time in his life. >> He's been riding a little high since the whole dexteral warrants and he created a new technique. He's been riding pretty well. >> He's been doing great, man. He's been doing great. >> He's been flying real high since everybody told him he's not allowed to do what he did at all but he didn't get called for a single time so who cares? What a legend. Good for you guys. Vibes seemingly immaculate with that guy all the time. How about a row of building Conor has a question for you? >> Yeah, Muth, another year with Aaron Rodgers and he said before the season, hey, this is it. No matter what, this is my last season. Has there been a better vibe, different vibe with Aaron? Do you see him a little more nostalgic sentimental on a week-to-week basis? Knowing that every single week is kind of last week one, last week two, last week three, and so on? >> No, definitely not. He's focused on winning the strip bowl this year and he's put everything in front of the table. It's chips on the table every single day and he's been great and he's been consistent since he's been here last year and he expects greatness from everyone every single day in practice and I think that's what stands out to me the most about him is he's 42 years old playing a league for 22 years and probably does he deserve a bad day, Wednesdays and maybe Thursdays? Absolutely, but he's out there every single day practicing, holding us to a high standard. So how can you not go out there every single day and practice your ass off for a guy who's who probably shouldn't be out there. You have a bad day, get healthy for a game day, but he's out there really pushing us. >> No, G-Days for Aaron Rodgers, I didn't even think about that. He does not take a G-Days. >> No, he loves to practice. He loves to practice and which is great, which is great. You need that as a quarterback on your team. There's a lot of guys on your team that are taking a lot of G-Days that all of a sudden Aaron comes in and it's like fuck, this guy is ruined. This guy is ruined for us. I don't love that he's moved. Look at this. What is this for our booth? You guys are running with a mechner so he can do shit like from it's 2014 again. What was this all about? >> A little no look. Yeah, he made sure everyone was aware of what he did. It was pretty impressive. I thought it was going to be incompletion because I was in the Ellis Island field and then I saw the crowd explode and Jerm go up about 25 yards. >> Yeah, it had to be a lot of fun, man. It was great, man. It was great. It was great. >> Yeah, I'm happy you had a great Sunday, Moose. I'm happy everybody over there in Pittsburgh is having an absolute blast. What's the record against the coach? >> 29 and 8, I believe now. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah, it's a tough run. >> I've only lost one once and we played them like every year, so. >> Whatever. >> Thanks, Moose. All right, listen. With you around now, anybody could have a good time as in the building at Lucas Oil. >> Oh, yeah. Joe Flacco came in. Didn't Joe Flacco? No. Yeah. >> For you guys remember, Tom and Tom. >> Yeah, because I guess Tom and told the defense, hey, whatever we do, we keep starting quarterbacking. We do it all by Joe Flacco coming in. If I do recall, and Flacco did come in. Yeah, okay, I remember that. Let's live in those days. Yeah, those are good times. Good times. People reuniting. Go ahead, Tyne. >> Yeah, Moose, one of my favorite things watching Aaron play is when he gets all firing starts mother fucking guys on the offense. And obviously there's the big thing on Thursday night with him and coach McCarthy kind of going back and forth to each other. Did they just bicker like a married couple all week long and does that lead into the games and also have you caught any shrapnel from him throughout the process of the game? Because I feel like typically when he's really given it to a guy, he either means, hey, I'm not going to throw to this guy again today or I'm going to force feed this guy for the rest of the day. >> Yeah, I've been on a couple of ends of the ass tunes from Aaron. It's definitely not fun. Definitely don't recommend it for anyone that comes into Pittsburgh, but I mean, it's all out of love. It's all because he wants the best for you and you see something on the defense that he thinks he can exploit. And, you know, if you're the guy that he asked to call on that situation, he expects you to be there on time. And so, you know, it's definitely tough to get on that same page as him, but once you do, the sky's the limit. And I think I'm, you know, not only me, but Jerm and DK and Darnell, we're really, you know, reaping the benefits of that. And, now, they don't really bit too much during the week. We don't really beat too much into it. There's a different relationship between him and Coach McCarthy. They've been together for so many years. And so we're really bad at night. They have their little relationship that they like to have and do all that. And so we're just kind of keep it pushing. All right. You guys, you guys going to get to the bottom of this? We get to the bottom of this. Thank you. All right. Here we go. Let's move along. It has worked out very well for the first five years here. There's been some dontimes. There's going to be some dontimes in the season. But man, if you didn't think that the Steelers had a chance with a 42 year old quarterback before the season, before the season started, now it feels like everybody's back on board with what's happening in the tight end room is a massive piece of it. Go ahead. Do you say you said you guys got the best tight end room, but just looking around the league seems like every team now has two or three tight ends that they depend on weekend and week. I just want to know from your vantage point, how do you feel like that position has changed throughout the league and how has it changed for you personally throughout your six years now in the field? Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest misconception that I had coming into the league was kind of just like in college, they kind of just split me out. And I blocked it a little bit, but it was more so a pass catch and tight end. And I think coming to that NFL, it was like, OK, we're going to just do the same thing, but solely realized how much of an importance it is, run blocking and being able to block so you cannot give keys to the defense. And so when Darnell got here, I feel like our games were very on the complete opposite spectrum. I think he was dominating the run game and had to develop in the past game and me on the complete opposite side. So I think this year, it's kind of really come together where he's really developed really well in both areas and same with me. And so now we can really go out there and offense and kind of not give tell us to the defense as if we're going to run to my side, if we're going to run to his side, or if he's running around, or if I'm staying in a block. And so, you know, I think we really work well off each other. When you see Darnell get the rock, do you, are you as baffled as we all are? When he was Georgia, I think the first time I saw him, he was like a drag route and Brock Bowers was running clear out and Darnell was just in the block. Darnell was an actor tackle and then Bowers, Brock Bowers was their tight end. Brock Bowers broke every record reception here. Darnell was just moving people. But every once in a while, everybody would go to Brock and then Darnell would get the ball. And as soon as he got it, he was like a big man touchdown. I was like, you're watching an offensive tackle get the ball. Then he starts moving, then he can jump. And everything he has been able to do at Georgia, he's been able to do that even more in the NFL. The fact that both of you can get going and get loose into both you can block from the coach's perspective, seemingly unstoppable. You know, and I don't think they're the only ones. This is modern NFL right now though. Last night, 13 personnel everywhere. I mean, it is. And I think to the evolution of the tight end position, I think that's a big reason why. Do you feel it across the NFL? Do you tight ends understand that you guys are becoming the new X factor, basically? And I assume contracts will start to be synonymous with that, not that you're paid well, but what wide receivers make and what tackles make, which you guys are both of those is just vastly different than what tight ends make. But it feels like the tight end position is the X factor in games right now. Do you agree with that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I feel like when you can get, you know, two or three really good tight ends, you can dictate what the defense can really do. You know, if they're going to try a mass personnel based defense with, you know, you have three comfortable guys that you can win on man coverage, then you can really spread them out and we lost them. I'm talking about tight ends. This is the pro. - Pick mismatches of, you know, who would be the weakest linebacker on either Darnell or yeah, I can get going on this. So it's been great. And if they're gonna play nickel personnel or anything like that and small personnel then we're just gonna line up and, you know, run the ball down your throat, fuck. - Last year. - Good work. - Just gonna pound your throat. - Mm-hmm. - Just pound your throat. - Pound your throat. - Pound your throat. - That's what Steelers are gonna do. - Over and over again. - Hey, Pittsburgh Steelers gonna pound your throat. - Especially the Colts. - That's what-- (laughing) - Rackers, Rackers, Rackers. - Shadow, Rackers would indicate. - Unbelievable. Last year, a lot of six offense alignment. A lot of six offense alignment last year for the Steelers. We saw that pretty early. This year, tight ends doing that. But it feels different up front. Tone has a question for you, Moose. - Yeah, Pat, obviously week three, Brock and Big Max come in on the right side. It feels like Jalen Warren since that has gone off for like 160 game. What was it like when that for you guys as an offense when the offensive line change was made and then blocking for this guy who just makes big plays every single game? - Yeah, I mean, put him Brock and Max on the line up. They definitely created a nice little sense of shit talking. I should say, out there Brock is shit talking every single play and I think they bring the energy, they bring the juice and so. Anytime you get a hat on a hat, with especially with giving the ball to Jalen, he's gonna make a bunch of people miss and he's gonna get loose and score a touchdown. I'm just happy Decay didn't trip him on the long ABR touchdown 'cause Decay was really blocking his ass off on that. So I know, every time you can get Jalen the ball and Aaron knows, I mean, this play right here, just get it to him real quick and he can take a ABR so the house just like that. So he's definitely one of the underrated backs and I'm super happy for him to get all the recognition that he's getting so far. So it's been fun. - You're an under-appreciated tight end in the lead, Pittsburgh appreciate you though. You've already been paid, it's only gonna continue to grow. Leg day every day, what are we, they're saying your legs are getting smaller. - Nah, I was in their squat yesterday. So definitely not getting smaller, so. - Geez. - We don't have to have you on the screen while we do this, but we would like you to hear this. - One thing abnormally important. - Oh, exactly, yeah. Wide around in my whole body. - I was standing next to him for a while. - You know, there's like some of those, now with the modern science, there's some of these people that you could tell to just get like surgeries. Sorry, the first surgery. They're bodies like this, and then it just goes like this, and then goes down, and then goes like this, and then goes down. He's kind of like, his body goes like this, and then his shit just goes like that, and then it goes down to his cat. It's abnormal how big his fucking legs are. - Huge. Happy still happening, brother. Good for you. - I appreciate it, I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it. And now those big ass trunks are running, it's all over the place. This guy's gonna make probals, something. - Love it. - It must be nice, yep. - That's what Mike McCorseys is gonna say. - I hope so. - All right, good luck Pat. - And his nice Pittsburgh accent, huh? - Do you guys get confused by what he's saying? Is there a come again? Is there any of those? - Sometimes, you don't have to ask Aaron about that, but it was sometimes. - Oh, is that what he was saying? - Ganners. - Is that what he was telling him at that moment whenever they had their-- - I'm not in my headset, I don't know. - Yeah, smart. I think that's gonna be a Pat Frymer, ladies and gentlemen. - Yeah, blue. - Abnormal. - Huge. - It makes sense that he was a good blocker, but them utilizing him in the past game has become a real weapon. In Dornell, being able to do it on both sides. And then DK is able to go, and then Jalen is able to go. And if you guys get Pittman back-- - Yeah, he's on IR, but he'll be back. - Okay, so you get him back, that's another weapon that you guys have. That's where Taylor's offense could be very good. - Richie coming along. - Yeah, luckily, germs starting to come along. - Much better life as a Steelers fan right now. - Oh, dude, it's unbelievable. Like, I posted it for, I don't wanna re-act, but just a simple, dig route over the middle that didn't exist for the last five years. And it's just nice to have that opportunity to have someone who's calling plays who's been, Sir Bo has been really good in offensive schemes for a long, long time. Yeah, it's nice. It's really nice to have an actual real offense in the NFL. - Okay, well, congrats to you guys. Coats have that as well. - They got a guy. - Yeah, Tyler Warren, a big day. - I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. - Who's on the team? - Who's unbelievable for that team? - I'm scared, we stink. I don't like it. - Two and three. - Two and ten. - No, no, you see, you're going too far. - Two and ten. - There's that ball. - Spencer Schrader might be the best kicker in the NFL. - And he's from Indiana. - Yep. - Okay. - I love that, dude. - They kept settling for field goals and not even a doubt, like back to back 56 orders. - Broke his leg. Broke his leg, I don't know if it was a knee, but a terrible injury to his leg. We bring in a little Blake groupie. He doesn't miss them little Blake groupie in Spencer Schrader, battle it in training camp. And. - He got him low. - Come on. - Might be a nice kicker of the LA Rams. Look out. - Seriously. - How'd it be out of the blue? - Yeah, well yeah. A thicker kicker, a little Blake groupie. - I'm tired of this shit. - Little Blake groupie in a 60-order against Seattle, in Seattle to win the game for us. I thought Spencer Schrader was never coming back. And Spencer Schrader still has yet to miss unbelievable stuff. Little Blake groupie needs to be on the team, though. What he did for the Colts. - Jeez, Louise. - You guys are tired, man. I'm sick of them. - No, no. Little Blake groupie. I call it triple pylons, but little Blake groupie. - Hey, triple pylons is crazy. I think it's two and a half, but the Blake, he is not supposed to be as good of a kicker as he is. - Unbelievable. - He is. - Actually unbelievable. - When you see this Blake, we love him, okay? I don't want to take the beat. - Blake knows we love him. - Yeah, he does. - We have told him in person, we celebrated him. But he is abnormally small on a football field. What were you saying? - Nope. - No, no, I heard that. - No, no, no, no. - Singing out loud. - Oh jeez, I just got that. The budge, come on. - Little Blake groupie is probably going to be the kicker for the Rams. But it's easy come, easy go at the kicking position. Meevis, going into the first Monday night football, which is week two, after they come back to Australia. A lot of people telling us, like hey, would like for you guys to mention Meevis, and how good he has been for Los Angeles Rams. 'Cause they've been through a lot of kickers. He's like their fourth kicker in the last like three years. They have the most missed kicks out of any team over the last like four years the Rams do. So Meevis had been great for them over there. Like a savior for their team. Like we need a kicker, we got a kicker. This year it's just not been like that at all. How funny the narrative can change from week two to week five on a kicking position. All you need is a couple misses, punting position, especially if you're a tweeter, a couple misses, and all of a sudden you're out the door. That's why any of these sustained success kickers, it's like every week they've done Nick Fulk. - Yeah. - He's been doing it for 100 years. - All over. - And every time he goes out there, you expect them to make it. At the jets, at the Patriots, now he's at the Falcons kicking in door. He's got to feel wonderful down there. Vitutary, 22 years doing it. Justin Tucker was on track to potentially become greatest kicker of all time. Then he falls off for a year. Then he can't get back on a team now. A lot of things happen, whatever the case. So I always said, if Tucker's able to do this for 20 years, then we can talk about him being better than Vinnie. Because the sustained consistency of greatness is what it is at the kicking position. And Meevis, he'll get another opportunity. Hopefully he'll get hot somewhere. Or the Ram stick with him. And he gets hot again, which can happen. But it becomes like one of those like who gets hot, when gets hot, how you get hot. And then if you can stay hot for five years, you have a five-year career. If you can stay hot for 10 years, you have a 10-year career. If you can stay hot for 20 years, you have a 20-year career. - A whole thing. - Because you don't really have like a lot of patience normally with these types of misses. But to your point earlier, the weather rams have set up their salary cap in the roster. About a high-end, high-speed, high-speed, high-speed, high-speed. That means you got rookie men, not even vetmen. You got rookie men in a lot of positions that are playing special teams. So if you need to cover an opening kickoff, you've probably got a guy that is third, fourth string maybe, in some places, a linebacker covering a kick there, that's going to give up, just like the Eagles. They got a lot of money up there as well. So you got like some low guys on the roster making a huge place for you. You're going to have to have great kicker, great punter. And you, Packers, got that fix, don't you? Yeah, they actually, they're tracemac missed two field goals this week, which in most weeks that would show up and wouldn't be great, didn't really matter this week. But like, they're new special teams coordinator and they're in the top half of the NFL at least so far. Yeah, he's a very fiery guy. But yeah, it literally was. You watch every week and it was like, all right, at what point are they going to give up an ADR kick return? Or at what point is this team going to take a pump back to the house? It was just weekend and weekend. Like, it's a terrible way to watch a football game, actually. It's a night, huge night for the NHL. It's called the Frozen Frenzy. And it is frantic, D-Butt. Oh, yeah. 32 teams in a league. That's how many games? 60. What? That would be everybody. I know, put up. Yeah, everybody's playing the night. There will be 16 winning NHL franchises today. Yup. And 16 losing NHL franchises today. Now, you can't get a point if it goes there every time and it goes in a shootout. But they're going to have a winner because it's 2026 and it's sports. We shouldn't be able to tie. Got to know that it ties an option if you're on a football field. But I appreciate that Hockey's on full display today. There is every team in the league going to do something special in magical. If you don't have a team, today's a great day to sit down, find one. There's going to be electrifying players all across the country. and. Canada. There's people who got dangles that look like absolute wizards. There's power coming from shots that you think a cannon is actually been shot and there's going to be fist the cuffs and physicality that's going to remind you the old days whenever guys used to go outside and settle their differences. Hawkeye is awesome and today's a great time for you to find out about that if you're not a fan. Nick, what are some of the storylines? I saw a Vetskin scored another goal 930 for his career now. So many so many goals. That's the most he is the the most. Sidney Crosby is still doing it. One of the storylines that we need to look at. And how's MacGee's is doing out there? Is he still doing MacDavid's stuff? Sid's still doing it. He's going to take on the Chicago Black Hawks tonight with Pittsburgh versus Chicago. Connor Bedard looks likely to make his season debut. Your member Connor was the number one overall pick a few years back. He's supposed to be the next one of these generational style players. And then you asked about MacGee's 13 points in five games for the oilers. They are red hot. They won four straight 13. If you don't have a team, it sucks that the team is adamant and yeah, it sucks. For us, but that time went for the people 19. We know it's awesome. We love that for you. There's a guy Connor MacDavid he's he's if you haven't watched hockey, just go ahead and watch one guy. That is the guy to watch. If you want to watch a nice physical style, how are the panthers doing? Oh, a little banged up right now. You got a new stuff. We had three long, you know, runs to the cup. So Barkey's banged up, Marci's banged up, but to Chuck Brothers, they're on the same line right now. So yeah, go watch those physical ads. All right, there's great hockey on display all day. 16 games. All 32 teams. What's up, man? I mean, premier franchise in the entire NHL, Boston Brewins are playing at 11 p.m. Eastern. Are you kidding me, man? That's a nightcap. You say the best for last time. We're in the shark tank too. Sharky's going to be going crazy over there. Sharky's going to ride the rail. Sharky. Climb the glass. Bitch, dog. Okay. I'm worried about no sharky, but give me a break. Okay. Some people, some people live on the east coast 11 p.m. Man. Celebrity. Do you guys make the playoffs last year? Yeah. We made the playoffs last year. Did you guys make the playoffs last year? We did actually. Yes. Let's talk about the college football play. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a guy who lost in the first round. Listen, forgot about that. And now Paul says down in the sea, baby, look out. We took the jersey down. That's fine. That was that was the greatest ride on any hockey jersey. This set is a machine. I'm proud of that jersey. No more. Now cousin to Buffalo crowned up. Showcase to himself as he was covered by a pasta knock jersey, which resembled the greatest regular season in the history of the NHL. Damn right. How many games did you guys win in that regular season? Too many to count. Well, they actually did count and it was a record. And then you guys lost immediately in the first round afterwards. So maybe the best regular season means you're going to be the worst in the playoffs. No, no, I don't think that's what it means. What happened was the four to panthers. Look, they came out fat out of hell and turns out they were one of the best teams in league and have been since that moment. Look, stuff happens. It's the NHL. It's the only league on the planet. I actually do generally believe this. It's only league on the planet where the bottom seed can go on and win the entire thing. I don't think there's another sport right now that can have that 65 wins. He does it. Holy shit, man. That's too many to count. Burgies last year, 65 and 17. And then you lose in the first round like a bunch of bumps. Yeah, it was last time the penguins made the playoffs, bro. Last year. We were here. It took us multiple years to get 65 wins. Okay, I have some respect. Think about that. Joining us now is not about hockey, even though I know he's a big hockey fan. Yeah, he sure loves it. He's a bronze fan. He won't start talking to me every time I see him about the bronze. Don't know if that's true. He's the host of games. They football and basketball in every week. He joins us to wrap up the weekend that was with Reese's pieces from the weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, Reese David. I don't reach you like hockey like puck. You know what? I haven't followed it the last two years when I moved to Michigan. I learned it and became a red wings fan, but I've not gone blind. I've lost. I've lost a little touch. Yeah, I feel like I need to go with the predators now because of Sabin. They're away from that. You need to get a winner. The red wings fans, if they weren't die hard, I think they've given up on everything too. They were supposed to bring in Steve Iserman who is a legend. It was the eyes are playing. He was going to come. That plan is dead and gone just like that team. The fans are protesting for the first time in my life. Little Caesars Arena is sparse. No one is going to the games. We're on a 10-year playoff drought. That's the longest NHL our captain wants out. Another guy, one of our better players. He's in Sweden right now. So yeah, we're in a bad spot. So what we're saying is, Reese, you were doomed from the beginning when you picked the red wings to be your team. We would like you to pick another team that is awesome. We got Jay Mac McCordy is a New Jersey Devils fan. He's going to be following along with Jack Hughes. Reese, you're going to be a predators fan. That's not it's going to be short lasted, I think. I feel obligated. I'm going to have to answer for it over the weekends with Sabin if we don't. Okay, this might be a 45. I'll jump in with him. Okay, but because isn't Gump going to help him? Isn't Gump helping him? I do like that every time. Yeah, Sabin and Gump are around each other. Gump will just shout something that has happened to the predators roster. Okay, so there was a 25 year old. I think it was traded last week and to the predators in Gump he goes, I like the move. Is that right? This is how the Gump he brings out of phony as his dad. He goes, look, this guy shows him a highlight of it. That's what we need. We have too many. He's guys, too many. He's guys. We need these guys in Gump. He's like, yeah, this is exactly what this guy is. So I think you are kind of a consultant right now for the national predators. Gump is that accurate? Yeah, he was pissed. He didn't get any info before that trade happened. I guess he was supposed to know before trade's happened. So he was looking for a lot more info on that trade. So I think Gump is potentially outing the organization to their new. Hey, do you hear? And Sabin's like, no, what? But I need to be here this before you tell me, sir. Okay, let's get to this past weekend. Reese's pieces from the weekend of college football. We appreciate you doing this every week. Our weekend in Tuscaloosa was fantastic. I know you're an alum there. Obviously, Alabama has had home of college game day a lot, especially during the Sabin years now with the board taking the reins. I loved it, man. I thought I was going to hate the Coleman Coliseum. I think it was the right play and I loved what those fans did for us, Reese. I was really worried about it, Pat. I was worried they weren't going to come. We all went and tried to do some social media things. I talked to some students on campus during the weekend. Man, did they show up? I mean, they gave us a great, loud environment. And I think they were excited and maybe they didn't have to stand out in the rain the whole time. And I think it was the best play because of our crew more than anything else. You couldn't exactly predict, you know, what they might have to face with the weather and Alabama fans showed up and made it a great moment. I think there's like 6,600, 500 people in there. Good turn out. I mean, it was absolutely packed. Couldn't really move because they had their seats. I don't know if the concessions were going as we were looking around, it continued to grow. It didn't get like less people. People are seeing that it was happening. We'll go down there. It started becoming an event. The entire bowl started filling up. It was a, it was a scene. It did feel like it was something that we would remember and talk about forever as we go forward. Huge Georgia win. Oh my God, what a win, Reese Davis down there in Tuscaloosa for Kirby Smart, who was completely untested. They said coming in. There's no question. They, they weren't tested and did they ever answer the challenge? And that's the first thing I think that stuck out to me more than anything else in this entire weekend was the Georgia offensive line. Really both lines of scrimmage, but particularly that front against Alabama, they kept opening up holes for Dwight Phillips who, you know, came from deep on the depth chart and just kept having explosive run after explosive run. They protected Gunner Stockton, who I think played the best game of his career on Saturday night and had so many clutch throws. And Kirby Smart, the audio has leaked from the locker room and he said, this is a him or me game. Georgia looked like him. If you want to use a vernacular of the kids, especially the guys up front on both lines of scrimmage, clear cut number one to me now. They looked really, really impressive. And I think, I think that how impressive they were has been a little bit overshadowed by the blonde calls and there were a couple of blonde calls, but Georgia still to me looked like the better team for the vast majority of the game. How about Gunner playing his best ball? Keelan Russell not saying he's not a guy. I think Keelan Russell is a guy. This is the non pass interference call that on the broadcast had a flag graphic pop up. Yeah. And Herbie and Fowler both thought it was a clear pass interference. I think a lot of people there watching, thought it was a pass interference. Some people are saying it was uncatchable. It was like it hit the guy in the leg. So I think there's been a lot worse that have not been deemed uncatchable. When a guy gets hit with the ball, I think that's going to be tough. Miss calls happen. Fourth quarter, three left. I mean, this is a, it's only it's a 15 yard penalty. It's not spot foul. It's not on the one. If it happens in the end zone, like it is in the NFL or half the distance, whatever it would have been. Still a huge blown call that a lot of people to your point. Keep pointing at as opposed to what Georgia did. Kirby smarts pre game speech being like, he seems actually upset. about it, he seems actually upset about it getting out. And I think he can be able to get the fingerprints from, 'cause the film goes to the guy's fingers. I think with the modern technology, he could probably screenshot that thing, get some fingerprints and figure out who that is immediately, 'cause if he genuinely doesn't want that out, I think that's a real bad thing to let that out. - I would assume I believe Kirby Smart when he says, somebody's other coaches, I don't believe, but I definitely believe Kirby Smart when he says, especially talking, you know, bad muds, the history there, but I mean, I love hearing your speech because we think we know who these coaches are. I would assume that's how Kirby speaks before. Most games have times have been around some of these crazy ass coaches. I love hearing it, but I do hate, 'cause I do as a former player, I love the sanctity of the locker room, what you see here, and you see here stays here, and I hate that shit getting out. Whoever that staff member was, I hope they find out and get rid of him. - Yeah, or her? - Actually, and Kirby might actually try to do that, you know, so if Kirby finds out who it is, I think that's pressing him for him, it will be a dynamic that'll have to be kind of solved as we go forward because me here in Kirby do that. - Oh, I loved it, little baby modest. - Little baby modest becomes a football player in Kirby Smart's coaching. - All right, that's where you're headed, brother. You are headed. I think it's a good thing for Kirby, not a bad thing for Kirby, but I think Kirby doesn't want everybody to know exactly what is the magic that is happening before they go out there and do what they do, which I respect. Speaking of magic, Hey, Kentucky might have a football team. There is real chatter down there that Big Blue Nation has a team in a coach, and they've got some big wins in big moments against some big SEC teams, Reese. - Will Stein has made his presence felt at Kentucky and also being felt at Oregon, but we'll get to that in a second. - I love the way Kentucky is playing. Now, it's a 50/50 proposition statistically to go for two in just about any circumstance, but when you get it over time, as a Wildcats have been the last two weeks, and you have to go for two in the next overtime anyway. Why not put it on one play and try to win the game right there? You know, I understand the concept of extending the game if you're the better team. Kentucky may or may not be the more talented team in a lot of the games they play, so they've put it all on one play, and they've come through two weeks in a row. And it is show, that kind of thing builds confidence. And I think you can see Kentucky's confidence growing game by game. It sort of flew right in the face of sort of an uncharacteristic conservative call by Lane Kiffin to punt earlier in there on the idea that Kentucky had had some struggles kicking the field goal, and LSU had to lead. But Stein has been able to make those calls to win games. Kenny Menchi is getting better and better. We heard about how close he was to beating out CJ Carrot Notre Dame before he transferred, and he's been absolutely terrific, taking care of the football, making clutch plays. Almost at the same time, Stein's presence is being felt because of his absence at Oregon. Now, I'm not one to come out and just put it all on an offensive coordinator all the time or offensive coordinator change. But the ducks have been sporadic, even when Dante Moore was healthy, Dylan Ryo, had a really tough game against UCLA. They put them all on the ground five times and turned it over seven times. So I think it's really, really accentuating just how good a coach this young guy at Kentucky is because Stein, making his presence felt at Kentucky, and they obviously miss him a whole bunch at Oregon at the same time. And then Tosh, he's out. He goes to Cal and the defensive side as we watch UCLA run 1920s offences against people and cook them. Will Stein, whenever he gets to Kentucky, he's asked why he thinks it'll be different with him at Kentucky. And he said, with all due respect, me, I think I am a difference maker. He certainly is. I like the statement at the time, just like I like signetti calling out everybody night one. Now, if you go on to lose, I hate it. I hate what you did. If you go on to win, I love what you did, especially if you're able to call your shot in that fan base. I think they've just been waiting, right? And that kind of what Kirk Herb Street's been saying. And that's why Herbie. Anytime anybody plays against Kentucky, he goes, poor old Kentucky, just kind of sitting there. He's did with Stoops for a long time. And I thought it was just his friendship with Stoops. It turns out, Herbie really likes that place as a football school. And he thinks that they have a chance to really be a big problem, like for home field advantage. I think he's always wanted it to happen. Now, feels like it's going to happen, race down there in Kentucky with Will Stein. Now, flip side, can we talk about UCLA? Whatever you talk about, we're going to-- Nico Yamalayava has been injured. He's been ruled out. That offense really run heavy, run dominant. Obviously, T's and P's positive thoughts for Nico, as he misses the rest of the season, transfers from Tennessee after leading them to the playoffs to UCLA. They do terrible. Now they're doing very good. He gets injured out for the season. T's and P's to ooze out there. What do we think about Bob Chesney's offense without Nico? And can UCLA continue to do this, Rees? It's going to be a major challenge. Pat, I was talking to their offensive coordinator last week, Dean Kennedy, before Coach Sabin did his film room on their offense and the things you were referencing in their run game. And he was telling me about how much they put on Yamalayava in terms of making sure that they don't run a called run into a look that they haven't wrapped, or a look that it's not going to be successful, I guess. They do a lot of creative things. They do a lot of things, such as tagging plays with changing blocking assignments to make the play look different, even if it's the same one. A lot of that fell on Nico. So now they've got a Tai D from Baku as a remarkable story. He didn't even play quarterback until he was a sophomore in high school, sat on the bench for a couple of years at Pitt, went to Cal Poly, played a little bit, lost his job, got it back, got a chance to go to UCLA. And then he came in and, look, I'm not saying he set the world on fire, he managed to game. And maybe with this running game, they'll have the opportunity to do so, though. I think they're going to have a challenge against a really, really good run defense in Wisconsin coming up. But UCLA is another one of these teams with Kentucky, with Missouri, with Iowa, who are still sitting there looking at the playoff picture. We're at the midpoint of the season. And they've got a path after earned their keep when they're games. But it's sort of indicative of how quickly fortunes can turn these days in college football. Yeah, Northwestern also, which all these teams are crazy to say these names, but it's very real. And we are happy about the parity in the amount of teams. Tai actually has a question about that in the North. Yeah, to that point, Reese, there is a massive log jam in the big 10 right now. I think you can argue. And we'll see what the committee would do with UCLA, if Niko isn't available to play the rest of the year. But you could argue that Ohio State, Indiana, UCLA, are all in right now. How many teams do you think the big 10 is going to get entered? Do you think a lot of those teams were sitting at 5 and 1 right now? We're going to end up kind of cannibalizing each other? I think a lot of them will tie. They'll start beating each other. If I had this theory that's not exactly rocket science, but if you're not good enough, it loss will find you. If you're not a lead, you're going to lose to somebody that maybe you shouldn't because you have to bring your A game to beat the better teams. So I think a lot of them will fall. I still think we'll probably wind up with three. I'm not sure exactly who the third one will be. I haven't lost total faith in USC yet. That was a big win for them on the road against Penn State. I know Penn State's struggling, but Lincoln Riley said all kinds of trouble in Eastern Time Zone. You go to East Coast. You win in the wide out. Really big win for them. So I think there will be three teams out of the big 10. I'm just not exactly convinced who the third one will be. I feel very certain about who two of them will be in a play Saturday in Bloomington. OK. What are people going to hate you for in here? I think maybe-- I don't know. Texas fans are so mad that they're probably not too mad at me for having them a little bit lower than everybody else. Maybe there might be a few people hating me for leaving LSU in. Maybe they think I've got Texas Tech too high. What do you guys think? I don't-- Texas, that lost Oklahoma's tough. You know, like that is. That's a tough one. That is a very tough one. But they have huge wins. So if we're just going to count outcomes of games, I mean, that Tennessee game at Tennessee is a big win. Ohio State is a big win. Sarcansions come out. Archbending has four wins over top 10 teams over the last whatever. So maybe you get off his piece just a little bit. It's like, well, we're watching him play, though, and it doesn't look like what we want it to look like. We want it to look like he is a manning out there. So that might be a conversation piece. I like where you have BYU. I appreciate how high you have BYU up there. Oh, miss. What's that time? I was just going to say Mississippi State. I feel like we're just acting like they didn't get beat by 35 by Alabama. We just kind of just threw that one out the window. No big deal. They did look good before that. They didn't even move down really at all, or they moved down one spot after they got beat at BYU. I mean, I feel like that was a big jump up in competition, got their asses kicked, and I know the quarterback's great. I get it. And then Alabama goes on to lose the next week. Two, Georgia, who now sits atop the mountain, they had been at two. Now they're at one in your poll, and in everybody else's poll, including the AP tone above average poll. Wow. Reese you and you and tone see it the same at the top of the pole polls, you and tones polls are damn near identical to each other, tone. What do you think about your poll? First maybe Reese's poll on this glorious day. Yeah, we did have the same top three. They're not in the same order. It's just because Ohio State has played a little bit stiffer competition. I would argue then Notre Dame, which is will change. Well, not actually it won't change this weekend because Notre Dame's getting to be while you're in Ohio State. It's getting Indiana. But at least Notre Dame's getting a huge road test with Clonney Sataki out there in Provo. But yeah, Georgia now, you know, is the best win on the season. You can argue against Alabama. I think it's, I think the top six have clearly separated themselves with these three. And then Miami, Alabama and Indiana, I think those six are hard to argue that they aren't the top six. And then it falls off a little bit as far as I test and kind of what you've seen so far. But no, Georgia clearly the best win in my eyes on the season. And I didn't, I don't think it was a downgrade really for Bama because how well they played too. But yeah, as far as the top three go right now, these would be mine. I like that you two on your polls, your average polls and your deep polls aren't punishing good teams for losing to great teams in a good game. And I think that's a big part of the discussion that is going to happen at the end of the year. It was like, well, I have a loss. I was like, yeah, but that was a people get mad at that. That was a great game though. Yeah, but still a loss. I like that you two have looked at the games, watched the tape, not just the highlights or the low lights and decided that team's still really good and will be a bunch of people. Now, Georgia up at the top of both of your guys as polls, I think everybody expected that, especially after Texas loses. Deepon has a question for you now, Reese. Always got to ask you about your number one team. What do you see as the biggest obstacle going down the line for Georgia? Is it kind of internally locker room? Maybe something they can't figure out there or the schedule, maybe Ole Miss, Missouri, been on the rest of the way. What do you think? I don't see anybody on their schedule as complete as they are, but if you don't play your A game this year in the SEC, I think the SEC is better than it was last year. So it's not as if Georgia is invincible, but I think they're clearly the most complete and the best team. I don't anticipate any internal issues. I don't worry about complacency with them. You know the type of effort you're going to get from a Georgia team every time they go on the field under Kirby Smart. Now, they may make mistakes, they may get beat, but you don't typically get, it is very rare that you get a flat effort from them. So that I don't worry about. Their teams that are explosive, I think explosive teams that can protect their quarterback, maybe even a little better than Alabama did on Saturday night, could potentially give them trouble. But boy, I really like the answers that I saw from Gunner Stockton, particularly on some of those third down plays where they had to have it, and I don't think we'd seen that from Gunner prior to this season. He delivered a couple of 17 yard seam shots that had to be put into a fucking, and he did. And I just don't think in years past, those are going to Georgia. I think those are going to Alabama in years past. This year, more confident, and the way Kirby's talking to him before the game, I mean, they're going out to war out there. I mean, they're going out to war. Let's not be turning the ball over in the middle of war. If they get complacent, I don't think any coach can keep anybody motivated after what we're here in there. Let's talk about this weekend. Huge top 10 matchup in your poll, and everybody's polls out there in Provo. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Reese B. while you're Notre Dame, I think just the average fan is just assuming Notre Dame's going to walk in there and kind of roll. What do you expect? I mean, the sportsbooks having at 10 points is absurd. That's the first time I'm seeing that. But what do you expect in this weekend from Provo from BYU in the game itself, and then just the atmosphere in Utah, and how great that place is. I think the atmosphere is going to be great from game day all the way through the end of the game. I've called games in Provo before. I mean, they are into it. They are not shy and retiring about letting the opposing team know exactly what they think of them, and their chances of winning would put it mildly. So BYU is always a tough physical team. They run the ball well. Now without L.J. Martin, a lot of it is falling on Bearbock Meyer, and I do have concerns about whether they can generate enough offense. I figure they keep this game tight early that it's a bit of a slog. It might even feel a little bit like that early game that Notre Dame played against Wisconsin. I expect as the game goes on, the Irish will take control. I think they're better in the passing game. I think they're probably more playmakers on defense, but it's not going to be easy, and it won't take many mistakes for BYU to be able to knock them off. And what this is going to be easily the biggest game in the history of LaVelle Edwards Stadium. It's the first time out of top 10 matchup. They beat number one Miami years ago, but they weren't in the top 10. It's going to be huge. You're the best. That's where you stay. We're back on the other side. Goodbye. Wrap up. It's incredible weekend last night in Los Angeles as the Buffalo Beals walk out a week five Monday night football as a winner. And the Los Angeles Rams have another loss early in the season. We still have yet to see Miles Garrett and Aaron Donord on the field together. We still have yet to see this Los Angeles Rams defense become this dream defense. What we have seen is this man. Be unstoppable. Put an entire team on his back alongside a bunch of lads who will fight you till the very end. 37, 34 Buffalo Beals get the dub in Los Angeles and the Rams have a bunch of questions being asked if they're really a super team or not. Their special teams has not been that great to let them down last night. And Josh Allen might just never lose a game ever again outside of the Patriots at home in two weeks. The table is here at Boston Conner at Ty Schmidt. Ty football is awesome. The NFL is phenomenal. College football is great. More unpredictable now than ever since we've been doing a live show. I think yes. Yeah, I think so. I think the parody and it is just because like the first week of the season, we see a couple teams get their asses beat and you kind of just throw them out immediately. It's like, okay, this team's going to stink the entire year. And it just it really is weekend and week out. I mean, you know, even like watching the Packers, you know, we talked about the Bears and how good they were. You don't expect that there are at least four to five games every single week where you are 80 to 90% confident that one team who has looked really good is going to win and then they get their asses kicked. So it's like you, you just, you're in a pretzel going into the next week and everything changes again, but it's awesome. It makes every single week feel like there is so much more stake. I think the arrow Tom Pellicero said on Riche Rising show a couple of weeks ago about Justin Herbert, maybe being on the move out of Los Angeles, especially if they go home in six. I think you just said it. Like nobody's talking about this. Nobody really thinks this could be possible. But why not? Chargers, if they go up, they are. They're staring down 0 and 5 team does not look good. So people heard that from a couple of weeks ago, then obviously the internet does with the internet does. Now there's conversation about Justin Herbert made being tricky. Whoa, I mean, that is the chaos about having a losing NFL team because there's a lot of teams that are super desperate to get to the mountaintop. And if they think to have a chance and you have a piece that they think can put them over the top, there's been some crazy deals made. People have gotten corners for multiple first round picks. Okay, they thought we'd put them over the hump and then everybody on the roster gets hurt. And then you end up sitting with that no pick for the next couple of years as you try to figure out what the future looks like. I'm talking about the Indianapolis Colts. Oh, sauce gardener, not the problem. Sauce gardener getting hurt when he got hurt. Everybody else getting hurt when they got hurt as we're the normal team and a league. And then us winning only two on the next 12 games with no first round pick going forward is a price you pay to try to get over the top. Yeah, trade deadline looming teams that can go teams that are at no both happening in real time. I think we're going to see some action. Ian Rappaport will join us in about 18 minutes or so. 9 year NFL vet, Derrius J. Butler is here. Yeah, baby. But she butch. We've been talking about this a bit. This is an end last year. I think if you go back 10 years, peanut Tillman was the only guy that was really perfecting a craft. But on this particular show, especially with your incredible ability to snoop it out and see the greatness happening on the field. It's time for debuts, peanut punch out spot. A lot of them last night in this weekend, debug absolutely a couple of them on prime time last night and a lot throughout the weekend at 44 turnovers overall throughout the weekend, about three, a game and they're always huge in the game. This was the lamb and one of his two that we saw they recovered one bills did. Then the Rams got the other one, but just an absolute sniper with the right fist from lamb. And we always talk about the field position, explosive plays and turnovers or what usually dictates the winner in ball games. Fred Warner, the best in the business right now. I believe since peanut Tillman, when it comes to punching the ball lot, he got one in Seattle. They had two actually in that 49ers. Chris Johnson, the rook out of San Diego State for Miami. It's a great punch out right there with the left hand too. So I'm gonna give him a little bonus. Even though we went and didn't win the game. And then we got Jake right there from the Vikings right here. Punch out a clean one. Yeah, just big, big Jake. We got Cindy Brown right there. Just like the last name, they're totally from the chargers. I mean, one positive thing. Bow nicks. You got to take care of that football. But as runners in the league, as quarterbacks in the league, Kendall Vidore, bears, draft pick now. New England Patriots punch out on the best tight air right there. Brock Bowers. So you got to protect that ball, man. As a runner, as a quarterback, defenders aren't just coming in. Usually AJ talks about it. It's usually the first guy we're playing. The first guy gets in there wraps up. And the second guy comes in there and punch out, but you saw it with a lamb man. He's punched it. I think James Cook. We're in for another three, four yards before he even tried to attempt to get back for the ball is just a great job, but he's defenders all over the league. Okay, so what's the defense? I'm coming if I'm coming at you. I mean, I think K9 does it the best. He has the He kind of puts the the other one over the arm, but if I'm coming at you right here I'm just trying to find a spot. Just get it there up there Oh behind you I bumped behind you. It's a punch. It's a punch. It's a punch. Oh, oh, no. I'll hear you right here. I'm gonna hit that fuck. Yeah, that's good. So you go boom. Little x right here. You used to be three points of pressure Three or four points of pressure. Now you kind of got to go. Yeah, put a little extra I'm fine. Get in there. Yeah, in the ball. Actually, you know what? Hey, get this. Yeah, you're just doing. Yeah, I don't think so. Damn, I don't think so. What's gotcha? A lot of the guy like the guy is running straight at you And it's like a straight punch. Yeah, I can only play in the thing about it as a runner, which never would have happened in the past. It ever would have happened coaches would have hated players would have had it and you're scared to get ran over when you think about it. But even if I'm going to tackle a 250 or let's say I'm going to tackle James Cook and once I go to that ball and I hit it your natural like human instinct is to like tense up. So you no longer become this explosive power for a runner. Now you just turn going immediate old shit mode and these linebacks with the power corners. We're seeing D tackles. We got specialists. Everybody are just punching his ball alive and they're doing it from the day you step in the OTAs through the practice. Pat, you remember guys will be running out of bounce and you will be messing with them. I'm on side by punching ball. You hit a guy you know 16 year like Frank Gore and he looks actually like want to punch you in the face. You know five seconds after the play, but they just kind of reps it mentally for these runners because the ball is a program. Yeah, it's a different game on defensive side speed athleticism. They're securing tackles while also punching out. I think natural evolution of the move and you talk about Frank Gore punching out. I would never done that just so we know that. I know who and probably not to do, but I'll tell you I assume I was a part of a story of a guy maybe not making a thing. You know, it wasn't just me. It was obviously the rest of training camp. He needs to look at himself, but he punched a ball out on a guy that can't cover a kick maybe. You know, I would like to see this guy. Boom, runs by ball punch down. Yeah, defense goes. This guy head down runs back to the entire thing. I feel terrible. Okay, I feel absolutely terrible. The guy wasn't going to make team that certainly doesn't help, but there's something in stress on a football field everywhere. Me and Vinnie are staying on a sideline. Ball comes from the corner. We're getting water because we work so hard. These guys, we're getting hot. We're getting water. The guy catches the ball comes down out of bounce, runs to the sideline. He's about turn around and run back. I mean, not just me. There's defenders on the field that are standing over everybody is just looking to get that ball to the hand. Ball to the hand is automatic check on the offensive side. It's like it is talked about more charted than anything else charted, but the defense is trying it all times. I actually got one build of Eagles kickoff return. One out of bounce. I wish. Oh, yeah. Well, that's because basket. From the side or? Yeah, yeah. I did basketball. I got to definitely get a shake and do the reach around. You know, the lazy basketball. Yeah, when you're going to do the go defensive. One of those ball goes flying. I'm like, wait a minute. Have him break my fist. Elbow. Nobody's really getting hurt from these. Joining us now is a guy that I think would have been great if it was maybe expecting that of him, especially with his. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, tight one. Doe abilities. It's nice. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion. Roderick Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, Jay Hawkele. Hawkele, you can hit the elbow. I guess that used to be the fears that you're going to miss and hit elbow. Maybe break hand or you're going to miss tackle. The peanut punch now seemingly hotter than ever. Yeah, I don't think it was ever really you were worried about punching elbow and getting hurt. It was more missing the tackle, especially if you're the first man, too. And Lamb and this dude is unbelievable. Like sit there. You're taking on a block with one hand. It's right. Like why try to completely disengage and wrap up with two hands when you can you can you can literally see that ball in that compressed gap. Like just thing of beauty. How I can't believe how accurate these guys are right now. Like they're so accurate. It would be a nightmare to be a guy running the ball because even when you do have two hands on it, he punches it perfectly. That thing's coming out no matter what. These guys are practicing, I think, right? Precision punching or practicing. Practicing not a lot. It could change an entire game. The maniac. Darius Leonard. Yeah, yeah. For the coats. He was he made pro ball because of it. He had eight turnovers and they were mostly all punchouts. It's becoming a part of the game. The offense needs to know that defense takes advantage of it. We love where the state of ball is. What are your thoughts on last night's game, AJ, before we pivot to the frozen frenzy? What a showcase of ball in that second half. Yeah, what a showcase of just just talent. I mean, Puka goes wild. We see we know what Stafford and Josh Allen can do, but just Josh Allen. Like he's a true dual threat guy. And he's a big old, big old quarterback that is not scared to run the ball. And like, did he slide last night at all? Do you remember seeing him slide? Yeah, that's what's wild. I think this gigantic guy that's not lumbering down the field either. He is as fast as it gets. And then he's not sliding at the end, too. Like just creates nightmares for defense to try to adjust to something like this because that's the butts that early. Like one spy is not going to make it work. You just got to, it's got to be a full 11 guys. Your whole rush lanes have to be perfect. And the guy still can exploit you at times. Yeah. And you talk about him sliding. He was just trying to run that guy over who was non on grass. So I mean, he was trying to get a on top of somebody who was going to cut out his ankles. I mean, he's trying to still get something. He's trying to get him down there. It's like, Josh, you're a psycho. A lot, a lot different than his rookie year. This was all he had. Yeah. All he had was his running ability. He couldn't hit the broad side of the barn for a better metaphor with how he could throw. He's locked in his throws, but he came out immediately after the game in his interview. I believe it was with Miss Laura and said, uh, got to throw ball better. Got to throw the ball better. He ran for over 120 yards. He had 210 yards passing. How much more does he want to go for? I mean, is this guy want to go for 600 yards of game? Like what? We got to throw the ball better. It's like, bro, yeah, I think you did one over 200 there. 120 here. We got touchdowns galore here. We got guys eating all over the place. It's like he still wants more. Still needs more. Is this? This is the big question now, AJ. And I hate to sound like sports media guy, but is this a sustainable way of playing football to win a Super Bowl? You know, can't just ask is this a sustainable way to play football and be good and have success? It's like, can he win a Super Bowl like this? Because that's the only question about Josh Allen. And he has a freestyle style of quarterback. I don't know when the last time a freestyle quarterback won the Super Bowl feels like systems often win the Super Bowl. Well, Ben. I don't know. Ben was kind of a freak. He did run. He'd not run as much as Josh obviously because he wasn't back. He would run around. And then yes, he played within the system. But he did do a lot of backyard. Shit. I was just trying to think of someone like closest to that because he's a backyard football player. Josh Allen is a backyard football player. The best backyard football player of all time, Josh Allen. Yeah. Tundig's pretty good. Bix. Pretty pretty good. Yeah, he was a good player. Good play all sides. I also pretty good. Yeah. Mark Jackson. Yeah. Pretty pretty. Yeah. I mean, is he going to tackle Patrick? Well, I see. Is Lamar Jackson going to tackle? Yeah, Pat. I think he'd be comfortable with it. Yeah. If we're buying backyard football. Yeah. I mean, that is the thing though is Lamar. Lamar's not a small dude, but Josh is as big as a DN. And Lamar doesn't take the big hits. Yeah. That's like one of the talents that Lamar has. And he has the ability to avoid your massive contact. Josh Allen. Love looking. Josh can. He's definitely looking for contact. But I think also he is very calculated in how he goes about it. I might not look like it at times, but I think he knows when he can win that match up, when he can not slide. And he's smart enough to step out of bounds when he needs to. Sorry for the laughing while we're doing that. It's a very serious subject. We hope all quarterbacks have the ability to win a football. We haven't been able to see it. There's breaking news out of the NFL. Little Blake groupie is now the kicker for Los Angeles Rangers. Here's me. We did talk about this just in the first hour and we just need a video. Nobody was really send a video. Nobody was really taking it serious on this particular set as we chatted about the amount of pylons it would take to match his height as a whole. They go from thicker kicker, which we've never seen. Janet Kowski was big. But to just be openly kind of, yeah, I'm cool with how I'm bigger, you know, I don't think we've really seen high success at that. I think there is some things to it with how much explosion you need, how much you need to be able to move, how you need to be able to move is certainly a combo. But Meevis had been one of the best kickers in the entire league all last season. And the Rams loved him coming into the year, misses a couple kicks, gets a kick block. All of a sudden, a little Blake groupie is available. He comes flying in to save the day. LA is going to love a little Blake groupie. I mean, if he makes his kicks, he will make his kicks though. The only reason why he's not the coach kicker still is because Spencer Schrader had a perfect career. Then he gets hurt. Shane Stuykin says, don't feel like you should be able to lose your job. Has full competition. Blake groupie missed like one kick for us, two kicks for us. This guy is phenomenal. If they had him last night, I think a little Blake groupie steps up and knocks all the way through, no matter what. I'm excited for him to get out there. Also, more breaking news out of the NFL before we pivot to the frozen frenzy. Congratulations to Jamar Chase. His people's elbow celebration appeals have been the russain. >> Really? >> Yeah, he said he was thinking to worse about me all of a sudden without even talking to the NFLPA. Kind of like the booze thing where the NFL was like, that's beer, that's booze, that's not water, that's not getting ready even though you're professional athletes. That's definitely alcohol. The players are like, whoa. You guys got an alcohol problem. If every single drink is an alcohol, that sounds like it's a you problem, not a me problem. I like Jamar Chase did the same thing. First of all, I didn't get a warning, supposed to get a warning. Second of all, you guys are disgusting. That's what you guys are thinking. - Can I be honest for a second? - I like that defense. You thought it was what? Oh my God. Is that all you guys think about? - Thank you. - Geez. - Well, we. - Keeping it sexy. - First off, that was definitely beers and that was definitely his dog. And he was flopping. - Whoa! - Whoa! - Can't prove that. - Can't prove it. - I don't think Jamar watched a lot of attitude here for us. That ain't damn people's elbow. - No, it's not. - Oh, we don't know how many people have seen that elbow or what the elbow potentially is. And maybe there's some other group that has a people's elbow. And maybe, maybe, maybe some of these things that we've never seen before have elbows, you know? But what Jamar changed to saying is, hey, that's disgusting. That that's immediately where your head went without me even getting a chance to talk about what it is. And he wins his appeal. - I like that. I like that part. - You got to throw it back. I like it. - Congratulations. Sean, he got him, isn't he? - Hey, reasonable doubt, bro. Okay, you just got to prove reasonable doubt. That's on you for saying that's a big old dong. Not me, you pigs. That's what he said in the appeal process. I like that. I like that a lot. But I do think the NFL got their point across with everybody. - Sure. - Now, there's been more penalties through week five than any other season since the merger. We need to slow that down. But I think with the flags, with the big conversation, the NFL wanted to reiterate the players, I hate. Let's remember, we're not, yeah, we don't need to be. - We're still going to do the peers, all right? He's doing it the rest of the year, correct? They green-lit it, right? And said you're good? - I think there might have been a potential wink, wink, nod, nod. Let's not be doing big old dong like elephant trunk stuff. Okay, let's keep that away from the body. - You can put it up here, though. - Yeah, he can do it. - Yeah, sure. - Yeah. - Good to have you. - Yeah. - Let's get out of football and celebrations. Congratulations to, you don't win a lot of those appeals. - No. - Every one of these wins, we should celebrate it, yeah. - I blame Jordi. Jordi's head wasn't the gutter. He was the guy putting on the fines, wasn't he? He's part of that crew. - He's in there? - Jordi Nelson saying these guys are boozing. That's a penis. That's what Jordi Nelson is doing. - I mean, Derek Brooks, Jordi, I believe, a couple other people are on, like, I think they're on the appeals process. So maybe they're the ones that freed him up. And said, "No, he's good to go." It was not a big old dong. - You're right. I could see that being a lot of things. That's a hose, maybe? - Sure. - Yeah, I understand what you're saying. - For the people's elbow. - And Jordi's like, this is what you're saying it is, 'cause it looks like he goes. - The Jordi was around that time, he was watching. - He knew. - He was watching the rock. - No. - I don't know. - I don't know if it's the people's elbow. And tomorrow it's like, I take my before, and then, I'll just kind of, that was my body dropping the elbow. You see, the elbow's actually appearing. So it, that's a, joining us now is not from football. And he's been waiting around. We apologize for that. The man is gonna be able to tell us everything we need to know about this Frozen Frenzy Tuesday. All 32 teams will be playing tonight. 16 winners, 16 bomb ass losers. Excitement and energy from one side of the league to the other. Superstars in abundance. If you're not a hockey fan, today's a good day to find who your team is gonna be, as this NHL season is about to be the best season yet. Joining us now, 13 year NHL veteran, stud PK Su-Man. - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, sorry, PK. - Hey, hey, no problem, guys, have to be back. Do you see that people's elbow? Do you see that people's elbow from Jamar Chase? - I did. I did. I don't mind the extension on that. What's the, you know, I don't mind that. - Yeah, maybe the guys given fines are just here. They're whole lives. - Yep, yeah. - You know, this is how they live. Grow or show or what do you mean? One size is all size. - Yes. So whenever he says, - Hey, don't let them in the end zone, Pat. Don't let them in the end zone, Pat. - That's right, if you don't wanna see how big it could be, don't let them in the paint. - All right, PK, let's talk about the Frozen Frenzy, shall we? 32 teams, 16 matchups. I don't know how many years this has been going, at least the last few. I love this. What are some of the storylines that we need to know have begun early in this year? - Well, there's a lot of storylines. Obviously, Florida is gonna be a focal point with the Brady Conchuck trade. And we saw Barkov go down. We've seen Marsha on go down. Now they're not out the rest of the season, but maybe people are changing their picks. I still think Florida's a team to beat. We look at a big matchup tonight, Washington and Carolina, which we saw the first matchup, Washington handed it to him pretty good, so I would assume that Carolina wants to come out and write the ship again, but it's the usual suspects, as usual. The McDavid's, all these players are playing at the top of their game, but it's the young players for me. Like tonight, you gotta stay up to watch that San Jose Boston game. Mackleon Celebrini's box office right now, but it's all the rookies. Anton Frontel and Chicago's been great. Kevin Connelly and Vegas is having an amazing year. So, I think that there's a lot to watch, but specifically the young players, like the game to watch tonight might be Toronto and Utah, with the way McKenna has started the season and he's kind of coming into his own. It's early, but it's must watch TV for me. I'm watching hockey every night and I can't stop. - Tony, Jay. - No, I thought I was going to. - And PK, I just got to shut you down. I thought it was your right hand. - I thought you really nailed the landing there. Then you get a little skippin' go. That's on me. 60 games, I mean, my goodness. Yeah, let's park on on. I need one for every single game. I need you to have a take for it. AJ will provide another opportunity. Go ahead, AJ. - Yes, I appreciate the overview, PK, but a comment made by Kutroff said the game is faster, but dumb or very dumb right now. And he's saying it's like low IQ. What exactly does he mean by that? Is that something you agree with? - As a player, you understand exactly what he means by that. And I think that the game, we've put so much of a focus on, you know, doing everything super, super fast. But the reality is that there's probably a handful of guys in the game that can play the game at top speed and do everything at top speed, right? You watch back with Celebrini, Connor McDavid play. These guys do everything at top speed. So I still think that there's a fine art to the game that requires poise and patience and thinking and that's why hockey is the hardest game to play in my opinion because you need all of those tools to be successful at it and Kutroff's a blessed guy. You know, no one's gonna see the game through his goggles, but you gotta take the time to understand him. So, you know, there's a language barrier there, but I think what he means is that it's not always about being fast. The game has some bright spots, but you know, the talent is very, very few guys can do what Kutroff can do, right? So, he's in a class of his own and, you know, when he speaks freely, it's always must see TV. So, I hope we get more sound bites out of Kutroff this year. I know they're gonna probably put the reins on him, but I'd like a microphone in front of him after every game. Yeah, I really would. Yeah, we'd like Kutroff to be out here a little bit louder for the good of the sport. You talk about him being in a league of his own. There's somebody else up in breathing that air as well. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, PK, Connor McDavid. I think the stat was set earlier. He's got like 13 points or 15 points through his first five games or six games. Ridiculous stuff still. Is this the year they're finally gonna get it done? Do you think the Oilers have what it takes to win a cup? I know you said Florida, but you see them representing the West and what should the expectation be for Emmington this season? Listen to Mike Babcock's post game speech after their last win and he's, you know, the last point that I took from his speech was we're gonna get a whole lot better. And I've seen them get a lot better since the first game. They're harder on the puck, they're harder to check. And you know, there's gonna be questions about how he coaches this team, right? He's putting the big guys together expecting them to drive the bus. And then the third and fourth lines and depth guys got to do their job. So everyone's gonna have a role on that team. You're gonna have to follow suit and fall in line. I think that, listen, Mike Babcock's a great coach. Like who's gonna say he's not? He knows X's and knows. He knows how to get the most out of players. But that's all gonna be seen. I still think Edmonton has issues in net. So they're goal tending issues and some of their defense. They're gonna have to manage that. And those are areas that I'll be paying close attention to because when you look at the West offensive teams, San Jose is a sleeper team. You gotta be careful. You toss a sleeper team. Vegas, if they make it to the playoffs, healthy. My goodness, if they can just be healthy, come playoff time, they're a surefire contender. So for Edmonton, yes, I still believe that they are a true contender because of the coaching, because of their team and the structure that they're gonna play with. Make no doubt about it. You get caught and make David to a conference final. It's a sprint from there. So can they get to the conference final? I don't think there's anybody that's gonna disagree with that whole season to play, but I think they're on their way. I think they're moving in the right direction. - We sort of a lot of people, if you're not a hockey fan, find that Edmonton Oilers game on late night and watch 97 or whatever it is. He is outrageous. He's faster than everybody else in the ice. He's seemingly better than everybody else in the ice. He's physical and he's gonna score and get an assist in that game. And then we're never gonna see him in the prime time because they're gonna lose early. Now, you talked about them having goalie problems. They're not the only one up there in Canada. Ty has a question for you, PK. - Yeah, PK, what the hell's going on with Halibuk? It seemed like after the United States won the gold medal. I don't know if he just kind of decided or came up with like, you know what, Winnipeg sucks. I don't want to be here anymore, I want to go back to the United States. I know he's currently suspended still, is there going to be any movement on that? Is he going to get traded maybe to a team in the States, maybe to a team like the Golden Knights? Or what should we expect from that whole situation? Great question. That's completely up to the Winnipeg Jets as far as I'm concerned in what they want to do. When you sign a contract as a player, the team is every right to make you sit or suspend you. They don't have to trade you, so I want to be very, very careful because as a player who has misgamed sitting out during a contract dispute, it's much different than being under contract and sitting out. I don't always condone players to sit out even though I did it, but I'm going to tell you right now, in this situation, it doesn't look good to me from where I am because I look at the Winnipeg Jets who have been a top team in the national hockey league over the past couple of years. Going back to 2016 when I was playing with Nashville, we won the president's trophy. They beat us in the second round, so he was a part of that team, and he was still leaky in that playoffs, by the way, but I'm going to get back to that in a second. Winnipeg has been a fantastic team. They've been a bright spot to the NHL. Their fans are awesome. I don't know what's going on off the ice as far as people give it a tour, or whatever, when he came back from the Olympics, but my goodness, you sign a long-term extension like that. You don't want to play for that team. The whole concept of playing in the national hockey leagues to win the cup, I don't know where there's a better opportunity for him to do that other than Winnipeg. He's had great teams in front of him. I think Connor Hellibuk has to play a lot better, but to comment on the situation and where they're at right now, I don't know what Winnipeg's going to do, and I don't care. If they decide to move them, they decide to move them. If they make them sit, they make them sit. Right now, there's no pressure on Winnipeg to do anything. Their team's playing well. As far as I'm concerned, they're rallying around it. We saw that Tyler Bauer kid who's fighting every night my goodness. If you get a chance to watch this kid, I watch him in the NHL, up his nails, but I got to give it to Winnipeg. They've rallied around it. Kyle Conner's taking his game to another level. That's where I want to keep the focus on in Winnipeg, not Hellibuk. Listen, he's accomplished a lot in his career. I'll give him that, but if you're under contract, you got five years or six years on your deal and you want to sit out for a trade, that's on you. I'm not going to spend time talking about it. Once he gets moved or if he gets moved, I'll visit that. There's my guy Tyler Bauer, my goodness. This guy can throw him. Okay, it looks like he likes to love that good for hockey. Where are you from just so we can get a little perspective? Where are you from, PK? I am from Canada. I'm from Toronto, Ontario to do that. Okay, and what did Hellibuk do? What did Hellibuk do that potentially pissed off an entire country, just if you could remind me of what he did? Well, are you talking? What are you talking? I stood on his head. I stood on his head. I stood on his absolute head to win the gold medal at the Olympics. In every American, it was playing for American NHL teams after winning the gold medal for the country. Not just that. Women's and Paralympics as well. We have all of them. We own hockey. So after we come back, all the lads are playing for American teams standing on the bench. They're doing the national anthem that immediately afterwards, speaking of America, here's some damn good Americans right here. Every way games. Vlogging on how you doing? Everywhere. How you doing? Both teams. How you doing? And there's the America guys that go back to playing Canada headlines. The next day to wake up, this coward piece of shit. They actually said that I'm not going to hold on. I need to need to make sure I clarify. Did not actually say that. But vastly different experiences. And you can understand why the Canadians would potentially feel that way about the Americans in that particular situation. And why the Americans felt that way about the Americans in that situation. So it's interesting how one achievement won historic game by Halibut can potentially change a lot of stuff. But I think it did. I think it actually did from the human standpoint. But hockey has never been this super loud, get me out of this town sport. So I think this is a bit abnormal, right? BK? But it is definitely for me. I absolutely love Winnipeg. I love the city. I know a lot of my teammates, XT mates have played there. Listen, I'm not here to speak for Connor Halibut. He can speak for himself on his reasons for wanting out. I understand that a lot of American-born players want to play in the country. Brady Kitchock, people are giving it to him. He wants to play with his brother, guys. Like he kid me. Like that's the end of the story. He wants to play with his brother, coach. Play through brother. He's with a national hockey league. And you can make an argument. You can make an argument that they haven't won a Stanley Cup. And he's a big part of the reason why they haven't won. So I'm not saying it's all on him, but we have to look at it objectively here. We have to. If he doesn't win the gold medal as he sit now, right? So my question is, my question is, what is the reason I want to get full details on it? Because you win an Olympic gold medal, doesn't mean you get to come back and then dictate whatever you want to do. That's what's that way. From a hard to say, that's why it matters so much. That's why it matters so much. Four nations, fun. We like four nations. We'd like to win that one too. The one over in Switzerland that you guys claim the wheelchair, fun. Okay, that's fun. You guys have done the Olympic one. I do think it means you can walk into any barn and kind of say, hey, I don't want to play here. How many years left on it? A lot. Like 10? I was like five, five to six. A lot. How many years does he have left on that deal? And when did he sign it? Sounds like information that we don't need to hear. He has got five years left on that. He's got half a decade. You're the best weekend. We would like to let Canada know. We understand. It would not have been like that as bad in America because hockey's done our number one sport. But if it was an NFL thing and Canada won the football thing. And there's Canadian teams and there was American teams. And the Canadians come back into America and start, you know, I think American media and humans would have a certain feeling. Just the nature of the beast. I didn't love that Halibuk, who was our MVP in that gold medal game by far. Jack Hughes, huge goal. Halibuk, though, sorry, every puck. Stopped every one of them. Hunter shots, not enough. The sky went absolutely crazy to not get the chance to experience everything. All his teammates were experiencing like, what the fuck do I do this for? You're like, well, five years of a lot of money. That's what you're doing it for. Okay, shut up. Go get that net. We don't know if that's a reason we assume. Last question here. PK before we let you go. Got to know what's going on. Go ahead. Yeah, PK. You already mentioned Florida Panthers. Still your favorite to win it all. So I assume you have confidence in March. In the net, but I AJ text me, he has to get the details on this shirt that you have on. We got to know where you got this tarp from. What's the brand? I know you're a fashion icon, but give AJ these details, please. He was scared to ask. You talking about this shirt here? Yeah, what I'm wearing right now. Yeah, that's not a shirt. Now the other one. Seemone Roca. Seemone Roca. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. She's doing a lot of great stuff. I love this shirt. I picked it up actually early fall. Been waiting till today to bust it out, but I also got I got my Rick Owens boots. It's a Rick Owens lean. I got the end of me. Okay. I don't need to see what I wasted. I'm all buttoned up. I'm buttoned up today. And Pat, by the way, I wasn't going to put my outfit on until I got to studio, but I knew I was coming. Hell yes. So I put my my outfit on for the car ride just to make sure that I was looking tight and right for your show. So yeah, he put that shit on dude. I had to put the shit on. The other day you were wearing something that was just so absurdly ridiculous. What was it? It was like a doobla V. He had like so. So let me go through that look. A lot of people had questions on that look. It's a specific look. We're really going for that kind of 60 70s, Jimny Hendrix vibe. Okay. Dries Van Noten is doing a lot of creative things right now. He's hot right now. Pat really hot in the fashion world. So it was a deep V. Probably a little deeper than most people would wear specifically men, you know, but hey dude, you got to put that shit on. You do got to put that shit on. Who's the guy who's doing a lot in the fashion world? Dries Van Noten. One of my favorite Dries Van Noten. When Van Noten gets the smoking in there, oh, you're going to be taunting the good stuff there. Where's he from right now? Where's Van Toten? He's a dutch. Oh, no, he's he's from this. He's from I think it's same as Vivian Westwood. Yeah. Yeah. He's Belgian. Belgium. There's a van. That's good. They speak a lot of English over there. And Flemish mostly. John Scott Van Dan. And then they beat the shit out of us in soccer, right? Yeah, this is Dries Van Noten. Dries Van Noten. This is a Dries Van Noten. And what are you wearing now? You're wearing a seal. I'm going to carry the heads on the trousers. Yeah, the trousers are crazy in that too. You can't sleep on those trousers. Those are the burberry trousers. I'm not a big burberry guy. But those trousers I had to have. And then it's the details. Pat. Yeah, Dries is from Atthorne. Is that Ricky Owens on your feet? Oh, that was from my uncle. There's actually Ricky Owens. Ricky Owens. Ricky Owens. Always. There's always a hint of the inspiration of Rick Owens. Definitely. What a moustache. always. What did Moose say? What do you want? Okay, that's a great question. I'm so so happy you asked me that question because most people are probably like mess probably thinks this guy's the biggest idiot and he has to work with him, right? But mess didn't say it. Mess is very complimentary off camera. I don't know if you'll give me the compliments on camera because he's got his buddies watching that stuff. But off camera, off camera, he always tells me I look great. So that's a shout out to mess. I appreciate he's a best teammate. That's why he's a captain and a leader. Right? He let everybody be themselves. So great teammate. He comes right in and say, hey, you put that shit on today. You're the bad guy. That's as soon as he popped up, that ate into a lot of time that this man has. Laser gentleman joining us now. Junior NFL insider from ESPN NFL Network. I'm sure he's got some girls. Von Norton and some Ciro vans, Mero laser gentleman. Ian Rappable. What's that? What's that? You got on this? This is flag and anthem that I got on right now. It's great. And also you need a leather jacket, right? We've seen you guys. You need one. Yep. And I do have I didn't bring it today. I got a leather and I got a member's only. I didn't bring either today since it's nice out. So I'm going to let you on the show. I don't know. We'll find out. I have not talked to them yet. So I got a couple minutes. It's a big day with big trains breaking down all the big plays, big plays right now potentially coming out of last night. Any updates on anything. I know Blake groupie, little Blake groupie just got signed to the Rams. I believe he's going to be an upgrade, even though we all thought Meevis was going to be one of the best kickers in the NFL. Blake groupie never missed for us. Spencer Schrader just got healthy. He legitimately has not missed. So little Blake groupie will be good out there. Any other transactions or trades that we need to be keeping an eye out for Marvin Harrison Jr. Moose of the Texans. That was crazy the way that all went down. Chef forgot to bottom of that. Any other names we need to keep in mind that could potentially be on the move. Yeah, I mean, you hit the Rams one that was obviously big with with the kicker news, expect them to dedicate more time to special teams now. You mentioned the Harrison trade. I would say this. There's you're going to see a lot of trade conversations now kind of going on around the league as teams, you know, some teams are hidden buys. Some teams maybe need a little more. I would say a name that I've been wondering about is Jawan Jennings. So he's with the Minnesota Vikings had like two catches. Obviously came over from the 49ers. I expect his name to heat up a little bit over the next, you know, probably a couple days and weeks. And obviously the 49ers lost Debo for a couple of weeks too. So they make sense. That would be a name for me to keep an eye on over the next little bit like those are the kinds of trades we'll see, I think. Quick follow up on Debo. That was a non-contact. It appeared. What was that? I know we've heard it's a couple weeks. Yeah. So it was just a bad hamstring pull. I was told out two weeks likely and then they have the buy. So probably the reevalued it after the buy. I do not believe that he's headed to IR. So the hope is he can come back within that four game, but five week window. AJ has a question about a quarterback in a hamstring in Chicago. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah. What about Caleb Williams? What's the prognosis on his return? I think it looks pretty good for this week. To see, first of all, he returned to practice Friday last week. And they listed him as questionable, which didn't really have a chance to play last week, but he did work out pregame pretty hard. And so I've seen that workout. Practice Friday. It was a three to four week injury. This is the fourth week. There's a pretty good chance we see. Caleb Williams back, which like, you know, no disrespect to anyone involved, the bears will be better when they have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL out in the field. Like, that'll be a good thing for one multiple games without him. That's great quarterback room. That's what backup quarterbacks are supposed to do. If he can get back and play the way the case came and played that first nine on Monday night football against the Eagles, the way Tyson Beijing played whenever they had more first downs than the Jets had plays as a total excited to see Caleb get back. Maybe with a refresh mind on how to operate as he sees somebody else do the offense. It's supposed to help. Yeah. Yeah. Help for Bryce Young, down in Carolina, whenever he saw Andy Dalton. Let's talk about two other players that we haven't seen in some time. Go ahead, D. Buck. Yeah. Two elite pass rushes. Miles Garrett, they said in broadcast, he wasn't close to returning, which was kind of surprising. Me and the Michael Parsons who's supposed to be coming back soon here any update on those guys. Okay. So for Miles Garrett, it was, I was told it was about a six week injury, maybe a little longer, but probably about six weeks. So we had surgery the day after week one. So I would say week seven is probably a good target for him. This is week six. So I would say there's a chancey. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. There's a chance. Come on. That was, I nailed that. What do you mean? I nailed that. Yeah, but we're just saying last week, you had no week and we're way too early in the season for you not to know. I checked before I came on just so I would know the week. And then I forgot what I had checked. But anyway, so sure. Yes. Thank you. So I think there's a chance he practices this week. My guess is week seven. He's at least practicing. His return is coming. And it's like you'd like to have him out there, but you want him when he's out there to be a hundred percent. And I think he will be from Michael Parsons. The packer, the way that Packers evaluate things are medical first above all, no matter what. And then football, they are very conservative. He's not going to practice this week. I think there's a chancey practices next week. Hopefully we'll get out on the field and play. I don't know. But his return is coming to it's just they are not going to put him in harm's way at all. And this defense played really well as we grow out. Yeah, they looked unbelievable. 9 3 and 1 with Michael last year, then they would lose six straight without Micah. So getting to when Micah could return, whichever I thought was going to be week six against the Cowboys was what Packers fans wanted. Then they performed like they did last week against the Bears. I think Packers fans are happy. But this could have been a much bigger story that week six was the projection. And then maybe even week five was the projection. Then you came on two weeks ago or three weeks ago and you said week six week seven, maybe that was the first time we had heard of the lay in the week seven. If he's not practicing till next week, AJ, you would know better than me as we have a hard out here with rapping about a minute and half or so. You would know about me one week of practice. He's going to need a couple of weeks, right? Yeah. So we're probably pushing in like week eight, probably, which if the Packers continue to play the way they play, that's okay with you guys. Yeah. And his brother actually said like I think mid November was kind of always what you know, I assume he knows more than the average fan does. Yeah, but that week six Dallas Cowboys for early Sunday night football was like what we all expect. Yeah. And we're hoping for, but in reality, that was never going to happen. No, and he can't get hurt. He needs to be ready to go when he gets out there because their season goes right down the pooper if he gets hurt. Okay. Speaking of season going right down the pooper potentially, whenever somebody was out now, quick, come back. Hopefully go ahead, come in. Yeah, Rob. She AJ Brown out since week one on the IAR. He's eligible to come off after this week is that the case? Or is he going to probably take the Juts weekend off and come back next week? I just checked on this. I was told no answer yet. So I think what they're probably going to do is have him come in tomorrow, just see where he's at physically. I was told it's about a six week recovery and we are at four. So even if he practices, I know, I know he wants to play. He is pushing very hard to play. I would be a little surprised right now if he was able to play. It'd be awesome, but it seems a little fast for me. I would, I'd be surprised. Six week. So let's assume him week seven, week. Last question here. And then they have the Thursday game. So yeah, that's Chicago next week to skip that. Okay. Get in the body. Last question here. We thank you for the extra minute and half. Yeah, Rob. There's some questions around Penox and his ribs are there. He was some talk that he could have came back in that game, but got cold, got tight. Is he going to play this upcoming week? What was the situation there? I think it's promising that he'll be able to put. Yeah. I mean, that's what happened. He sat down. He got cold. He got sore and I think he functionally. It wasn't where it needed to be. So they played two and then functionally it was really where they needed it not to be. I think it's hard. You feel good. Yeah. I think there's, I think there's a really good chance he's out there. It does not seem to be major. If he's able to practice tomorrow, I think you should be out there and play on Sunday. Okay. So this is my first time hearing this if it's everybody else. I apologize. He sat down, got tight, didn't feel like going back out there. Was he told not to go back out there by the two gentlemen that were talking to him on the sideline. He made a decision how that come about. I do not know enough to know medically what happened, but these were his words after the game where he, because it was such a long wait, he was like, he was not able to go based on it kind of settling in. That was my read. Okay. We appreciate you. Good luck on big day with big trades breaking down all of the big plays, these gentlemen's rap sheet. A panic stuff scares me. Good news for the Falcons fans. He's going to be playing. Yeah, but also what happened to go down that road. What happened, Mike? I'm not going to go down that road. I'm not going to go. You left us out to dry, Mike. So I saw, you know, a quarterback essentially tap out of a big situation. I'm not saying this. What happened with Pentax at all? Okay. I'm not saying that. I'm saying I have seen this and we have seen this once before or twice before this situation, not the panic situation. A situation where a quarterback decides not to play even though they can. And it's, it's devastating to the morale of the rest of the locker room, rest of building city fan base, everything like that. If Pentax in real time was being told, though, hey, probably safe to not go back out there because we don't know exactly what that is. I think that's we should know that information. I think we should find out that information because I think that is a big piece for the narrative that's going to get built about Pentax. Just this is not how I feel. I think this is just as fans would feel as a whole because of what happened and what was happening with that Atlanta Falcons team. They're in a middle of a rollin' since Panics got back prime time, prime time. Now they're going, they get into overtime after a huge play and it's like to not go out there and finish the job with your teammates. I think we got to hear that he was told that he was very danger. Don't you think, Deba? I don't want to speak too negatively because we don't know what the injury is. I am nowhere near as tough as Panics is. He's been through a lot of injuries. He knows his body better than I do. But from a football fan perspective, narrative perspective, I think there should be some clarification on everything that happened on his side. Because there's two guys talking to him, very intently, and then those guys walk away and then the tauga's over his head. Yeah, they were talking to him a lot. Usually we'll see, or I'll be looking for if they took his helmet away, usually that's a tell, tell a sign that they're trying to protect you from yourself. And he didn't come back in the game after the injury, after the hit and then obviously left and never returned. So, yeah, I'm interested to see how it unfolds, but it's going to be a tough look. But he's a tough guy. Like you said, all this shit that he's been through, I'm sure if he could have been out there, he would have been out there. The comments made that he made after the game kind of made it a little worse because he said, hey, we've got the ball first, I tighten up, you know, that, you know. So, we'll see how it all plays out, but we know how it is in the locker room, you gotta, you gotta be hurt to not like really injured, to not get back out there, especially as a quarter. Also fans, like the Atlanta fans. But do you think that maybe the fans will kind of give them a pass because they've been so hammered dog piss with all the other quarterbacks, like whatever, you can't get hurt, we need you. And listen, if you fall hurt, we can't have, we can't have, we can't have what happened out there. If you would have a tour, we, if you're hurt, don't play. He went out, our dumb ass, he's thought this was Alabama when he comes in the second half of the national championship, everybody was, we were living in it, that clip was shown to us 3,000 times sports fans because it is a legendary mountain in the history of the second largest sport in the United States of America. Wow, we have eyes on this thing, all right, you're starting a second half, we'll go to us. See you later. Huge. So massive. He's got half a bag of now known America's best in his face while he's making that decision. And then the story of two are going, I kind of had a few and I was going to go out there. I don't know, I was like 80% against the defense a week before Kirk Herb Street said, going into half time, he even said, are they going to go to the freshman because it had been lingering, it had been lingering. And he goes out there and just national champs, how you doing with that fresh on our mind, him going out and over time, even putting the helmet on, they have a side view of him next to the boys. It's like we're about to see the straight, that's right, in the same stadium, too. Oh, darts, oh, me balls up. And the Dolphins fans were like, you say in Alabama and we've been telling you that, so hopefully Pentax is okay, hope so, and I think he was probably told, hey, we don't know, also hope so. Big day of big tracks next year on ESPN, see you then, all right, I'm going to sell one. Nah, you know, he pumped it up pretty good and you did with the end. You think they were, they told Pentax, it's possible like without a scan, okay? You know, guys have had like, last rated spleen and things like that, like internal damage or something. They were worried about something like that. That's what I'm saying, yeah, I think that there's at least a conversation happening that says like, we don't know what's all in there because if you do have a fractured rib and then he land on that, that can do some real damage on the inside. So I'm just hoping in my mind that that was presented just like maybe, hey, early in the season still, we don't exactly know. Yeah, extra careful. Yeah, it's got to be something like that because as I'll just give you the perspective of the players and maybe this is outdated or barbaric, but if it's a pain management issue, you got to play through that. I don't care. I don't care what the injured, you got to play through just strictly pain. If it's other shit, which we don't know, we're not part of the medical staff. That's a completely different story, but as a teammate, that's something you're going to be looking at. And you want your got there. It is early in the season. You want them out there for the rest of the season, but it's a tough as game. The best quarterbacks that we all grew up fans of whether they were athletic quarterbacks or pocket quarterbacks, you played through a lot of a lot of shit. So in all these games, you're going to come down every week, 18 is going to come down to a game, especially in that division. So as a fan, as a teammate, obviously, number one, you want to be healthy, but number two, you want your quarterback out there if you can be out there. And just think about the story. He comes to play wins next morning, Fractured Rib. Yeah. This guy played with a Fractured Rib through, we've heard their story before. Yeah. Those are like the stories we've heard before. Found you. Found you. But now we have back to River Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford. Chad Pennie. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It's kind of my quarterback. I mean, I don't think that what broken it. Yeah. Uncle Roger. Yeah. There in a tornado. Yeah. No rivers played the playoff game with a tornado. Remember. Yeah. Back in the day. Like these are the story we know as fans of sport and of lead Thomas Davis is arm in the Super Bowl. Just got surgery six days ago. T.O. Looks like a football. Yes. It's kind of the stories of football. So I think fans know the game, appreciate the game, understand the game, also think that themselves. Did that guy tap out in the middle of overtime right there? And I don't think that's fair to Pennie because we don't know if he did that. I don't know. And a lot of you said a lot of talking on the sideline from the middle. Two people talking. Obviously it's quarterback with how good they are. I'm thinking he was told we don't know what's going on. I mean, he was crying. Like, it's not as if he didn't want, but he was literally tall over his head, like holding his eyes. He was crying. He was so upset about it. It's just if you know, but they should come out and say that. I think that should be a statement that you remember when two of God hurt and tapped out of a game. Yes. For Miami with. Yeah. And then the Miami Dolphins PR came out and they're like tons out as fucking nothing. Yes. And just moves along. You remember that? I remember that. Yeah. That was a prime time football game. Yeah. That was it. I remember two of putting his life on the line. And I think he did end up having like a broken number. Yeah. It was wrong. Yeah. That's what. So I'm just telling you, I remember thinking to myself, damn, this team just killed this man. And then I think they were wrong inevitably. And we might not have got the wording right of what they said, but it was in the gist of that nature where it was like, yeah, our quarterback that got out of that game that we could have won. And we end up losing. It turns out really nothing's wrong with him. And then like a couple weeks later, or a couple days later, it was like, hairline for actually actually pretty broke three ribs. Yeah. So we've seen it in the past. But those two guys and panics were talking for a long time right there. I mean, there had to be some sort of conversation about what was happening in there. At some point, I'm assuming one of the bold whats there said, we honestly, we don't know until we scan you. We have no idea what has happened in there until we scan you, but there is a chance of blah, blah, blah. I'm just keeping out my mind because of how good panics looked and how that Falcon's team has looked with him at quarterback. I don't like what people are saying about what Bishon did when Tula got in there though. What did he do? Wow. People are saying, as soon as Tula got in there, Bishon was looking at anybody on the side line saying, well. I did see that. I think he's going to think he's going to do it. Yeah. Well, that's what they're saying, but maybe he was saying, hey, could you redo the call to his old confused? I am wondering. You got Brian Robinson and Bishon Robinson, Kevin Zafansky, who offense guru. If there was a thought, you know, just, hey, let's just, let's put the Robinson's back there. And whoever the center wants to snap it to, we'll just put that one on quarterback. There was a chance, though, too, I thought, Dave, I was on the sideline, though, still call a place. I had to write on it. What are you talking about? What about that first row? Absolutely. Unbelievable to see him like that. You can't go. I can't believe. You can't drop back. Let's pivot away from that. Hopefully, Pennex is healthy. And we appreciate him looking out for himself, because that shit in there is really dammit. Oh, yeah. We're talking about this gesture. I don't think you guys, you guys act like you never see it before. No, I liked it. I liked it. I think Morgan did that. First time seeing it. It is? This might be the next evolution. And then transfer back to throw. So, yeah, you just, it's just a nice, small box. Oh, fluid mode. That's a movie. The amount of fakes you could throw through. That is pretty right. My brains have an engine right now watching it. So I'm thinking it would affect the DB. It's like November and Pittsburgh. Oh, easy to do. Oh, yeah. Easier to weather. Yeah, just take that thing completely out of your throw and hand, put that thing right back in there and then boom, because I mean, anybody can do that. Defenders what no one to do either, because they're going for this. Yeah, exactly. Paul's not there. Also, let's not even think about the fake of the pitch, it's happened. Exactly. Because you do a little dn come crashing down, bike for the. Suck up the linebackers. Oh, my God. You're not exposing the ball at all right there either when you pop it out. You know what I'm expect any good fake has to be exposed. Yeah, right. Risk reward. Yeah, you have to live out. No risk. No biscuit. You know, I'm taking that thing. I'm going boom. So the secondary sees this one. Oh, it's gone. They're all breaking right now. Yeah. And then the defense align sees the inside probably stop covering. It really is the triple threat position. Exactly. Oh, football. Now, I think about it. Because basketball has that right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Triple. Triple shoot. Like a shoot. We could pass. I don't know what's going on. I can see like Jalen hurts doing it this weekend. And then what happens? Defeats just false. All over. Yeah, exactly. 80 yard touchdown. All right. This one goes in. Boys are going to start doing it. Here we go. Yeah. Count it. Oh. Oh, Siri. Siri was an OC. Yeah. For Colts. Yeah. Yeah. We cut his teeth. And they can't figure out offense. He called plays for Jalen. Yeah. And then he. for Jalen. Yeah, and then he handed over the reigns and then the handover reigns and then the handover reigns and then the handover of the reigns and then they handed over the reigns that was six was that six times that just right yeah so that's how many times he's had a new coordinator who talked to us about how big of a deal it is quarterback price on yes price on talks about how many he's like just a nuance of not only calling the play but when why what we're going to do how we're going to do what he likes to do he's learning me too by the way I'm franchise quarterback he's having to I'm for Jalen hurt Super Bowl MVP quarterback new offensive play collar he's learning what the fuck I like to do as well at the same time I don't think that's sustainable for Jalen no it's clearly not at this moment you got to communicate it to the other guys too because quarterbacks are an extension of the coach on the field so and we see it every week it's going to be a next man up situation so if you have new online and new running backs protection new wide receivers you're still somewhat learning because the the schemes the offensive the defenses like we're changing and tweaking ship as weeks go but if you have a baseline of fundamental what you like I'm sure AJ if you were to play called for three or four years like two minute comes you know one thirty seven one time out you almost know what that d coordinate is going to call the first play and probably the first play coming out of a time out in a huddle so like just having that conflict to where you're not thinking about the play you're more so thinking about okay what splits them out and get what motions them out and get what can I communicate like that just I that was for me as a nickelback or safety or corner so I can imagine what that is for quarterback every year having to relearn that shit in OTAs and then going to you at this point in season you're trying to be on 300 levels ship but you're still on the basics you're saying that people are saying Cereon needs to start calling plays they're saying um that it's a crazy how people are always blaming the offensive coordinator for the Eagles um yes Cereon he does get a lot of the blame but it's it's crazy how I think a lot of the people on the internet now are saying like oh we forgot this Cereon is an offensive guy like this this shouldn't fall maybe more on him even though they do blame him for stuff but it's not just the offense he had the wire to see result body and whenever everybody thought the wire to see his own to fight everybody I see big doms talking yeah always where at as long as there's a camera there well a lot of people were a lot of people were shocked where he was talking I don't think I don't think he knew a camera was there oh sure I think he was just talking amongst friends about what's going on with the Eagles sir listen you need a representative for the Eagles I'll be there big dom will do that the rest of the guys trying to figure out what the fuck's going on in the field Dom also does that but if you need to go talk for the Philadelphia Eagles the bird's downer he will certainly pop it and do it such I wish we had a live stream so I can see it Ty what do you think was talked about here by big dom as he said let's we'll get this figured out with the Philadelphia Eagles well I believe it was at some sort of a democratic party deal as well so I think first and foremost he said you know he endorsed Bernie Sanders we were talking about that out there he said Bernie 2026 and also we're going to get this figured out don't worry about questions go you guys want just a Bernie I don't he's Bernie from Philadelphia no no he's not he's not he's from the Northeast somewhere you know Delaware Vermont you know from on there we go so I think governor of Pennsylvania is from Philadelphia Josh Shapiro you're saying he big dom is no fan he's no fan I think he's speaking to probably his he's a Bernie guy which is I think a lot of people are like what's going on here I thought we had but you know hey big dom is a mover and shaker God I just this just from on to be I own I owe a governor Josh Shapiro a suit thing you do because what happened with the pens and the flyers I hope somebody tells him that I will like to do that next time depends beat the flyers we'll do that I will do that I like to have him on the show Philadelphia obviously whenever they launch the UFC coming back to Philly we got a chance to chat with them that city hard work in city I believe it's big union city as well certainly a big dom potentially talking to Eagles fans say we're gonna get a fix the world runs the unions like big dom and the boys no the guy that runs the unions is the longshore man big oh yeah yeah he would shut him country down west do you remember oh yeah hey it's not bad now until when card dealerships got no cars how do you get the cars in the land they come through my ducks our ducks will shut them all down cars are just to start you want to build that house lumber okay not coming in to fucking America my guys not doing anything we just want to have a conversation that's all we're looking for you guys kind of overlooking us right now and lo and behold it did become quite a nightmare for a while and he had sweet glasses on and he was not scared of a damn thing that was a wild time to be alive hey hospitals they need medicine okay okay what bottles they're gonna put them in because those are coming through our docs we just want to have a conversation medicine houses cars out of food we got that too whatever you guys need we got coming through our docs let's talk about it that was a great play by yeah I wonder what deal was made there and I do remember thinking to myself it's crazy how everything could just how everything is a house cards and it got figured out pretty quickly they were like oh this guy's not fucking around geez right into my office they came in he had sick pinky ring put that thing right on display he shook their hand turn that fucking thing just like this they went to pat him on top he said I don't think so he put his hand on top of that they get a deal done good for him I think the longshore union is getting paid pretty good product for a long time and by the way I think we need it yeah no question from my understanding cars houses food medicine medicine everything electronics I thought we made that here note there's also stuff from there we got it that was a great power play by him kind of fucked this a little bit but he was saying we're getting kind of screwed in the entire process happy they made immense yeah absolutely join us now man it gets deal done with a lot of folks I mean he's got deals everybody there hmm tonight final episode of season 10 of his contender series is at 7 p.m. on paramount in December he's promoting a boxing match between Anthony Joshua in Tyson Fury October 24th he's got a UFC fight card that has Volkanovsky holy at the main event and oh yeah he's probably trying to create something on the moon at this exact moment ladies and gentlemen UFC's president Zufa president uh mr. white investment funds president lays java Dana white how you doing Dana what's up guys how are you good morning did I miss any I feel like I miss oh super slap fest fuck mr. slap fest uh I think there's some other stuff over playing backer off for uh a million dollars ahead what did I miss anything else Dana couple things but not important also moving right away hey life oh yeah meta board member thank you for the virtual reality glasses cheese I appreciate your life is good over here I hope the same for you congrats on having everything happen season 10 here of Dana white's contender series tonight on paramount plus final episode is this still as special to you as it was with that first season because I know it was groundbreaking whenever you started this it was a huge deal for the UFC to have like an amateur almost a fill in a pipeline for the UFC now you're 10 seasons in how do you feel about it at this point and what do you expect from the future from it 10 seasons in this might be our best season ever a lot of people are saying it it was incredible you know and obviously like you just said it's been a amazing pipeline for talent for us and incredibly entertaining on Tuesdays for 10 weeks a year it's it's awesome I love it yeah any fight that you can get your hands on and into it feels like you like can you tell me a little bit about Anthony Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury this is on Netflix it's not a zoo for boxing but you are the promoter for the fight can you tell me how this comes together and how excited you are for these deliaths to battle in December yeah we're promoting and producing the fight it's at the principality stadium and cart of whales and I'm excited that I get to be there or it's basically already sold out I mean I I haven't looked today yet but when we launched tickets on sale there was less than 700 left which is basically considered a sellout so it just goes to show that people are interested and care about this fight and gonna be live and free on Netflix okay tell me about Tyson Fury coming out at the White House was this supposed to be announced then is yeah yeah in what happened there was just so much shit behind me a lot of fuckery has gone on since then and uh here we are we finally we finally got here we have tickets on sale tickets did well and uh yeah so it's it's been interesting but I I knew these type of things were gonna happen when I got involved in a sport boxing okay so let's talk about the broader picture of that you were supposed to have the Tyson Fury announcement at the 250th celebration at the White House right before 4th of July Tyson Fury gets a walk out of the White House in America which I think was a big part of the entire thing does the entire walk has a conversation hey what are you doing think big announcement is coming from fucking big day in a head let me get the fuck off this microphone here so there's always been that type of shit in boxing I think which is one of the reasons why you guys were excited to get into boxing now that Zufa has started you guys have gotten into it a little bit you're now hosting another mega fight uh for Netflix for boxing for for the ring. How has it been getting into boxing after all the success you've had a mixed martial arts getting back into the boxing world for you. How has it been? You have expected the fuckery? Is it more fuckery than you expected? What do you kind of, how do you kind of design it? No, it's as much as I expected, but it's been fun actually. Have that a good time. It's been less than a year and it's been fun for me. I'm excited. Listen, if you guys have never seen a fight in the UK, I mean sporting events period in the UK are just different. And this is the biggest heavyweight fight ever in England. So I expect this to be really special live. And if you've never been, you have the opportunity and the finances to fly over to Cardiff Wales, you should definitely do it. It's just one of those things where generational guys are finally fighting and it's going to be split. You're going to have the AJ fans, the fury fans and I guarantee you, the arena is going to be electric that night and it's a lot of fun. If you have the time, the money and whatever to get there, you should do it. You definitely come check out this but you guys should set up out there and do this quite. Yeah, December 11th. So pretty big football stuff. What time is it at? It is, it's going to air on here in America in prime time. So it'll be late there. Okay. So it's going to be real late there. That's one of those like nine to midnight type fights over there. Is that how you expect it to see? Yeah. Do you know the exact time? Lene that it goes off. I don't know. We'll get you all the information. But I'm telling you it's, it is bad-ass to see these kind. And this thing's going to be in a stadium. It'll be sold out. I mean, there's 80,000 seats in this place. So it'd be awesome to have you there. Yeah, definitely. If I can get to a boxing 80, 80,000 people. Okay. That's a completely different game changer. Shout out to you getting that done. AJ has a question for you, Dana. Yeah, Dana, going off the boxing. How is the headache worth it? I know you said you're having fun with it, but you already have so much going on. We know that. I guess what has it been like throughout this whole process? And like it seems like a lot more on your plate even though you seem to love to work. Yeah, there's stuff. I've traveled more probably this year than I have my entire career. But I'm enjoying it. It's not like I'm like I'm burnt out or, you know, I don't want to do it. I'm not having fun. So, yeah, I'm going back and forth with other promoters, Dana. It's fun watching you kind of go back and forth to some other promoters that like to talk. Well, you know, I'm right. So it's not like this thing where, you know, coming out or lying about anything, it's just that that's been a whole different weird situation, but it is what it is. But it's all good. It's all good. Listen, whatever's happened between me and Eddie Herne and, you know, Frank Warren is also involved in this fight, the fight sold out. And listen, Eddie pushed hard for this thing to be in the UK. And, you know, I was trying to do it at MSG. It's in the UK and sold out an 80,000 seat stadium. And like I said, I truly believe that in Madison Square Garden, it's a five-hour flight from the UK. That would have sold out immediately too. And the energy would have been the same, because I don't know if you've ever seen when, you know, the Irish come over for Conor McGregor fights. It's absolutely insane. Ricky Hatton fights in Vegas were insane. The UK is a fun, fun place for sports. It's combative business center in all across the board. I think the worry publicly at Eddie's backers and the boxing backers is that they have the best for boxing in their eyes and the way to go about doing it. You TKO, Nick Con coming in was Zufa. I think you guys feel like you're trying to do the best for boxing as well. Is there a disconnect in the messaging and what is the goal in the initiative or is this just strictly competitive business going against each other? Yeah, it's competition. You know, we're coming in like bowls in a china shop and these guys are trying to, you know, protect their turf. You know, it's no different than any other business. And, you know, it's competition. We're all competing. It's all good stuff. All right. Well, good luck out there. We appreciate you taking the time. Good luck conquering everything that you're setting out to conquer. And we appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Thanks. And for those of you that this is the last night of the contender series. It's the greatest show on television. And if you missed the season, this is the last one tune in tonight on Paramount Plus season 10 final episode. Best season yet says Dana. Yeah, says the fans. That's what the fans are saying, too. So incredible season. Love that. All right, have a good one, brother. Ladies and gentlemen, say good bye. Yeah. Just competition. Yeah. Yeah, it's all good. So now 80. That I don't think we knew that. And he was like, there's 700 tickets left. I was like, okay, we can move. MSG didn't hold that much. We know that. No. That's like, all right. Clothing. Yeah. Yeah, what is MSG? 20, 25, 25, 20 max. No, not 30. Yeah. I don't know. I think MSG. For boxing, when you can put them on the floor, yeah, maybe 20, you think? I don't know. MSG is big. I remember the number being bigger. We were there for, um, finals triple G. And it definitely was not 20,000 for boxing and damage. Yeah. Oh, geez. We're way off. Oh, what number was I think? I was thinking of the, deer park fair. What's this? Oh, yeah, that's 20. Roo off. A Roo off amp theater out here, because I always assume you go theater, amp theater, arena, stadium, like, kind of in that order, or club theater, amp theater arena, stadium. I thought that's kind of the development. These amp theaters are like some of them. It's 27, 30, 24. Yeah, they're, they're, they're are huge. That was all the, with all the lawn seating. Yeah. Cause I was, when I'm asking the musicians, when they're about to take their next seven, I'm like, are you going to arenas? They're like, no, I'm going to do amp theater or whatever. And it's like, oh, I was, I was like, pump for them, but I thought that was, it's like, no, no, this is, this is way better. Actually, this is the club business. And then the guys and girls, I mean, Taylor Swift could sell a stadium literally in any continent on earth. The stadiums are just such a ridiculous state to have that many people interested to go 80,000 boxing fans. That's going to be rowdy. Yeah. The stadiums are quite, these festivals too. Like I'm starting to see more like my Instagram feed, like these house music festivals, we just see of people like, oh, those just insane. That DMX video still. Yeah. It was great. Dang, dang, dang, dang, dang, dang. You go to one of those festivals, Debut, would I? Yeah. Absolutely. I like that house music. So I don't know how I would react being there, but they look cool. I like those ideas. Rufus thrive. Rufus, I like the goods. I wish we could have been around for a beach. From my understanding that would have been outraged. I was at Coachella, I think one night. Oh, I think I want to, I don't know if it was Coachella or stage coach. I don't agree. I don't think I bought the right package. I mean, I was out there. I don't know if it. Well, that's a good question. You did feel like a lot of people were on a lot of things, and a lot of things that a lot of people are on are stuff that I'm not really into. A lot of the festivals that kind of do whatever you're going to do. But I was kind of in there. And I remember thinking to myself, I got to get out of here. And I did. I drove all the way back to in in Uber to, to where I was staying in Los Angeles. It was like three hour drive. I think it was. All right. Fun. Call in the Uber out there. Oh, yeah. Then you're in line for it. But it was a good spirit. It felt like a good spirit. Everybody was having good time. Everybody had the same. There was an all good festival, which was a hippie festival. It came through Morgantown. I think it popped through there one time. That's really it. But there's a, what's the one in Ohio? There's one in Ohio. There's a rock like a rock fest festival there. Rock in the range. Yeah. Well, there's a bunch of these names that we're not saying right now. That's a lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot of there. There's a lot of lose. There's one in Ohio. There's a big country one in Ohio. I forget what it is. I almost went to that one time when I was at West Virginia. And then I saw the group that was going and I thought that myself. I don't want to commit to. Yeah. Ultra. It's with Miami. Oh, yeah. Ultra is a big one. There's tomorrow land. He's kind of the biggest one. There's another one. Fire. Fire. Yeah, fire. Yeah, more than Jason. Here it is. They're sleeping out there, right? Oh, yeah. That's part of the package. I see you. Part of the packages are with that. And in what fire fest, that was the one. Yeah, that was a good one. Bill and McFarland. Yeah, he was killing it. He was going to launch a member. I remember it was fire. Yeah, Mitt Bulk. He did. He had something. Yeah, Mitt brought all the water or something. Yeah, he did. He had like 200 people down on an island somewhere and had like, jaw roll. Didn't, didn't, by, I think you feel that? Did Mitt go set? He was going to. Yeah, no, I think he just got the NFT version. It's also for the water. Billy's always cooking in the. He's on Killtony, wasn't he? Billy. I thought he, yeah, both. I thought. She's not Billy. I love it. You guys thought that all at the same time. My brain wouldn't even put that together. Good for you guys. Mitt was on Killton. I think so. No, Billy walked out and did a minute. I thought he did. I thought I saw a video of that. Are those professionals? The guys that go out? Yeah. Yeah, things. Okay. I think they're all like, I always see the clips that I've never done. Smaller comics, right? Or smaller comics? Some of them become big comics. We're through there. Who's the, uh, curly hair guy? Uncle. Telling guy? No, curly hair blonde guy. Drusty? Oh. What guys want to ask them now? Yeah, the black. like you cam shingles. Yeah. Shingles was on there. Uh, um, cam hilarious. He's also on there. Uncle Fester. Yeah. The white guy with the crew. No exactly who you're talking about. Uh, you know who I'm talking about? Yes, I do. He was at a bunch of WWE. I seen him a couple of WWE. Pat live in the gimmick. Yeah. I mean, two beers behind me who's, uh, that's unbelievable that that's who you are. He was the entire time. Took a picture with him. Not him, though. There's a big long curly hair guy want bills at his uncle laser. Laser. There he is. There he is. Yeah. Killed Tony's launched a lot of people. Yeah. That comedian world is very kind to each other. It feels like. And then probably pretty, uh, vicious if I had to guess as well. Especially for talking about when they're addressing gyms. Yes. Yeah. That's the guy I seen him on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good cut. Great. Cut. Yeah. Hair always looks clean to, yeah. Big mallet. I think this maybe even a tightened version of what he had cooking because he had a big fucking waterfall when I saw that thing was really out there. It was really done. And I seen some of his clips from Killed Tony. I go, Oh, this is kind of how it all goes. And then Tony says it's all fell silly. You know, every time you ask him about it. Hey, Jay, anything we missed today? You think that we have to talk about? I was going to ask, uh, rap sheet, what the possible role for OBJ could be moving forward. What do you guys with Minnesota? He was allegedly potentially going to play last weekend. Did not dress. I took OBJ Todd just because, you know, if it was going to take it and Gumpy was certainly supportive of the entire concept, because why would Kevin O'Connell even mention his name if he's not going to make him feel comfortable? He didn't play. Is he going to going forward? Feels like he's comfortable in the building. He's in shape. Kevin O'Connell's offense. If you can run routes, you can find it right. Yep. Learn to see. I mean, Raps had drawn Jenny. It's good to get dealt. So is I mean, I read. It's one of the correct sign and two, uh, Drew Rosenhouse will let us know about that probably, right? Yeah. Before that happens. That's an interesting news break. We do have news breaking long snapper news. The Jaguars are not going to continue with Devon Hamilton. Do oh, they're signing Jacob Bobin more. So he had to fly over there. Damn, I was hoping OV made a return. Matt over 10 available. Stay ready. I don't know if he, I think he's pivoted completely into the coaching point. He would have been able to get the job done. No. He's going 12 laces 12. Mm hmm. Every time he has to brought right there and hit bucket. At this stage, I don't know how much cover. It's happening, but if you can snap the ball good on punts, don't have cover. So, uh, I liked that Devon Hamilton kind of put a spotlight on these guys because you saw Logan cook go crazy there on the holds. Yeah. That could be every time. Instead, it is expected to be right here and those laces better be out that way, pal. Okay. And if they're not, God. And on the pun, that thing better be hitting me right in the hip. That thing better be hitting me right here. If it's not, you're gone. And if you're off a little bit, you're not right on the hip. I need you to go make a tackle on every single pun. If you can't tackle, you need a perfect snap. If you can tackle, we'll get a little bit bigger strikes on. But you missed that strike sound a couple of times. God. So any of these snappers you see snap at the same place for 15 years, 14 years, that's literally snap to snap. That can all change very quickly. You do two bad snaps. If somebody snapped like Devon Hamilton snapped in this game and he was the actual start. Guys cut. See you later. Never going to be seen in the NFL again. It's a high pressure job. High stakes job. That's why Devon Hamilton being able to execute, especially for a game winner. Was it so high gloves and tape on too? That's even more impressive. Look at that. It's so impressive. It's insane. It is absolutely insane. He's been able to he's 340 pounds. It's that's so fat. He's got a gut. Guys got a huge gut. The gut is directly in the way of your arms in the ball and then your eyes in the person and the bend over. You got to follow through to keep that down. His guts literally physically stopping him from being able to do that. And then the tape on the wrist, you're throwing a ball. So I don't know how he was able to have such perfect spirals. So every single time. If you snap those perfect spirals like that, if you're an actual long snapper, strikes that opens up a little bit. Hey, you got perfect spiral on that thing. We can catch it easier. That's a good thing. So the high ones would be the only problem, but I'm so impressed by Devon Hamilton. I hope he never has to snap again. Hope his last snap was at 50 to 70 harder game winner, perfect snap that he gave, but very way to walk it off. It is. It is just the physical part is extremely impressive, but the mental part. He going from a position like detackle like, all right, you fuck up, but rarely are you like the guy that's going to be spotlight like a corner or a wide receiver, a quarterback or a left tackle. So going to the position where you're only spotlighted if you fuck up and then everybody's going to be looking at you every snap and then the snap that, you know, obviously game winner. That's extremely impressive. And, you know, I'm saying respectfully. He's a fat. So looking at him now, he probably has a six pack right under that big gut right there, but I ask that's unbelievable performance by the gloves, the body type, just I don't know if I've ever seen a guy that big going in and executed that position. I appreciate the Eagles also showing him respect. He showed that last nap. He stood straight up. So whenever you get your head up, you're allowed to get blasted. So it's just like you have to have time to get your head all the way up. He snapped the feel goal, the last feel goal on this video. And then he stands straight up like literally just stands all the way up because he's probably lost feelings in his hands. He just stands up by what's up. He looks like I'll have to look back to him. He goes could have punished him for that, I think, within the rules. You're not really allowed to hit the long snapper. You're not allowed to line up over the shoulders. You have to give them clear amount of time to get their head back up because guys were just getting their heads jammed into their guts. Even if they were attempting to block it or not, you're just kind of taking a shot at the long snapper. So that's changed completely. I didn't even see him. They could absolutely. Hey, well, as it go, pretty good. All right, let me look ahead. All right, good work. Good work back there, Logan. All right, let's get the hell out of here, boys. Not a bad day. No, no, no. Talked fighting. Yeah, what's going on baseball? What's going on baseball? What happened last night? Brewers up to nothing. William Contreras had a huge night, hit a homer, had three RBIs. And kind of just more of the same. The Brewers just, they put the ball in play. They get guys on base. They steal a bunch of bases and then knock him in with singles. Everyone in their lineup pretty much produces. And their bullpen has been absolutely dominant through two games. They chase Yamamoto after two and two thirds innings. So they ended up winning 7-4. It's been one of those things where the really good teams, like anytime the Dodgers would score, they answered immediately. So like they went down a couple times and they just fight. They just fight. They move them over. So they're up 2-0 and they're going back to LA now. And in the other series last night was Game 1 in the AL. And the Reyes jumped out early to a two-nothing lead. And then the Guardians, they matched the total number of hits that the Yankees had in the entire last series last night. So while the Yankees kind of just rolled over and died against the Reyes, the Guardians are very scrappy, very, very scrappy. So this one should be a really good series. These teams are very evenly matched. Kind of the same deal. Put the ball in play and they got two homers last night. But that's not what they're known for. They're going to kind of try to nickel and dime you play small balls. So both of these series off to a good start. But I think a lot of people are surprised if the Dodgers are down 0-2. Okay, so Dodgers about to be out Yankees already out. The teams that play small ball and have a lower salary cap have continued to flourish this particular year. As we stare down inevitable lockout because there's too much money on some teams and they're going to dominate the game. Now off that contradiction of conversation that's happening in front of us and realize quarterbacks get greedy and they don't want to take the easy one. Cover two is sort of becoming just every call in quarterbacks just couldn't be patient and do the checkdown. Is that what we're talking about for teams that will hit to just get people on base? Is it like a mentality? Yes, a thousand percent. There's some guys that just won't. Hey, I'm not just going to get the bat on the ball. So like yeah, the brewers anytime they have guys and runners in scoring position and as opposed to like teams like the Yankees or some of these other teams who have massive payrolls and are paying guys a bunch of money. And like their intention is hey, three run homer is better than a single right here where we get one run in. And then inevitably instead of hitting a three run homer you strike out three times in a row and you don't get any runs. Whereas you watch a lot of these brewers highlights. Like these guys are just bloop singles into center field. Just putting the ball in play because they know hey, we got a lot of speed on the base pass. And then eventually we will run into one. We'll hit a homer. But if we have guys on base, we can't leave ducks on the pond, especially not against the Dodgers. So yeah, they get runners in scoring position and they don't give a shit if it's going to be singles driving guys in. Like they don't need to hit five homers to win games. Hi, what's going on with Shohei? He's hurt him to five and now they're talking about rumblings of him. He's definitely hurt and he's just trying to gut it out because it's the playoffs they need him to play. But then it gets into a position where it ends up kind of being a detriment because you can just tell. He's just not right in the box. Wave and a lot of pitches swinging its stuff outside of the zone. So I think it's still shoulder knee. Like he's he's definitely not healthy and he's trying to just gut it out. But yeah, there's a chance that they bench him for game three. How are the red socks doing? What? Who cares? It's freaking weak five, man. This stuff's awesome. Boy, MLB is going to be real pissed when it's Brewers vs Guardians. And no one gives a fuck. Now let's get that in. That is kind of the thing that's unfortunate is like it's great baseball. But if the Dodgers don't make it and it's if it's Tampa and Milwaukee or Cleveland in Milwaukee, it'll be one of the lowest rated world series ever. I watch I watch because Miz I like the Miz I love the Miz and I saw Travis Kelsey calling a five ball. Then he got it out for a Cleveland Guardian. Well, it's not banana ball. So that doesn't count. It's just a souvenir for a fan because it's not Mickey Mouse. You know, although I do kind of like that they do that, but you know, not in the majors. We're not fucking. So you kind of come around a bit in that in that goof ball league. Yeah, that's cool. But in the big leagues, no, if you fucking hit one into the stands and someone catches it, it's not an out. Just real quick. Can you do this with me? I said, all you say, uh, I said, revolution, we think you see them Savannah bananas, playoffs, away all performing in the crowd. You know who else was there? Joe Bros. Yes, super boy. Oh, I know. Yeah. Savannah Jesse called fucking O A R in the crowd. Did you see the quote week going around about that? What's wrong? They said they're going to show that to predators on death row instead of using eyes on them. So. Oh, is that him? That's disgusting. John Cena showed up in an old school Hummer. One like your dad had tone at like one mile and a gallon, they threw it out back to you know, H one H O original Hummer, John, that's the one I did not see this, that was the game. You Hummer from when he was in Fallujah with the Marines, too. So that, you know, it was pretty cool. It's true. Raw, raw, raw. And they're like, we're in the army, actually, sorry, you guys, all right, all right, all right, all right. So that's the ball out there hands it off. I thought he was going to blow his knee out right there. He didn't know the mouth was a little elevated. He knows. Yeah. Hey, good luck out there. See you guys can't see me because I'm out of here. So they had John Cena showing up in a fucking Hummer. They had the Joe Bro's performance, old school bangers, having performed the long time, had OAR and the damn crowd. And then they had the guy wearing a cowboy hat throwing a fucking 102 on the paint. I mean, how could you not love with the Savannah Banana? What was this? This is during their super duper playoffs this past week. No one. Nobody else. Yeah. Yeah, they beat the shit out of it. Tell us. Hey, here's the, uh, his Joe bros Joe bro, listen, the Joe bros started the NFL season in Australia and they damn near fucking brought those cricket grounds down to the ground. These guys still got the juice and they played the firefighters. Yeah. I thought you said they were playing tailgate. Well, tailgate is lost in the championship round. It's the. You're not even fit. You watch it. I watch it. The playoffs are during football and cause football see, you know, they're like WWE, you know, when one season ends and other one begins different demo, you know, definitely. They saw that. Stay you. Which one? That one. The big one. Do they have an offseason for real? Oh, we're all the season. Shoot. I know. So one wheel of surfboard wheelie surfboard. Is this the beach bumps? Is that the loco? Coconut. I'm gonna be, excuse me, the loco beach coconut. I think this was, yeah, maybe. I cannot hold one Joe Rose song out of my brain right now. There in India at 30. That Joe Rose song? I'm at downtown. You're gone? Somebody got to pull my six. What is there? I've been to the year 3000. That's not their big ones. I don't know how that's the first one. I'm going to the lava. And I'm trying to keep it going on down. Yeah, I remember that one. Burn it up. Burn it up for you baby. Burn it. Burn it. Burn it. Yeah. And you know Joe is fucking planes. I know he is. Yeah, actually. I fucking see him. Yeah. I know that. Who moved Australia? Which one? One of them did. That was a whole game for one of them. For a little bit. But they lived together still. Pride, Kav. Kav, yeah. Is that the middle one? I don't know. Kav is the older one. He's the older one. Nick is the drummer, right? The youngest. Hey, can you ocean? Absolute heater. That's from Joe. They have a good. I'm not a fan of them. Individual artist. No, no, no. You're only a team man. I'm a Joe Rose guy. Just a Joe Rose guy. Joe temporarily moved. I'll show you in 2018 for a bit. There it is. Okay. That's a connection. I believe. Oh, he was a celebrity coach on the voice of Australia. That's why. Yeah. Boom. There's another one. That's from Joe's brothers. I'm a sucker for you. Yeah. Keep going. And then the car. And then the mind. The mind. And you are. Oh. Yeah. Impesturing all the pain. In my brain. In my brain. In my brain. In my brain. In my brain. In my brain. Yeah. That's a good song. Yeah. I remember what they did. Thank you to your service to society, Joe, brother. Thank you, Joe, brother. I'm a good indie. Yeah. Might have pop by. Yeah. Where are they playing fucking the big bangers? You know, Seaky, brother. Lucas Oil. It's game bridge. Yeah. I was wondering about Lucas Oil. Yeah. Are they doing Lucas Oil? Gotta be. It's game bridge. Oh. I don't know if I can get there. If it was like, so I think I want to go. I thought they still had. How far is game bridge? Lucas Oil. Yeah. 20,000 people. There's a very different 20 minutes. I heard say it's 20,000 people. The Joe Brothers could done. Joe Brothers, 10 years ago, would have been playing fucking Lucas Oil. Yeah. Lucas Oil here. Who? That was there. Yeah. Ed Sheeran. Now, that man, a mover and she has the-- Who opened? No one. And it was fucking sick. You don't say it. You're saying he just came out and said-- Yeah. There's a time before when somebody else said stuff. They did like a local thing. We're like, some local guitarist. No one saw the opener. I mean, maybe some people did. But we got in there at like eight o'clock. Sat down. Got a couple pops. And he came on the stage within five minutes. It was unbelievable. Is he doing round stage or a big end stage? No. So he had the big one. And then they had like a fire truck ladder that went out to the one in like the middle. Yeah. Ed Sheeran is-- Is he doing some looping out there? The whole thing was looping. Yeah, he can. You don't need it. He can spin it. Actually. That fucking guy can spin it. Yeah. Yeah. You sure to see when I was at a wedding he was at? Yeah. He looked so cool. He had his blue talks. Just like a spotlight walking through the entire place. Hey. You know, it was a good to see you, dude. Holy fuck. Ed Sheeran just walked by. Yeah. Bangers. He didn't perform her. That's kind of bummed out. He was called upon, wasn't he? I don't know. I don't know. You told that? No. I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah. What did he told you? That's great. I think they had new heights, maybe. No. Yeah, definitely new heights. I think that would have happened. Jason might have been talking about it. No. No. Let's get out of here. Okay, we covered everything. Yeah. They still pointed down at it. He's over. Season's over. Yeah. No, it's not. It moved into a bigger place, right? Did they? I know they were working on it. I heard they made it. I heard they figured it out. You got to work on it. You got to figure it out. I agree. I can't be playing play in Mercedes. A hundred people. I mean, Georgia Tech. They got a bigger right? You figured it out. Yeah, Georgia Tech should have an arena. I think Atlanta has a lot of different venues down there. There's a lot of different venues down there. You think you could put some bleachers in or seats in to make it bigger. I guess they're currently locked in to play at the place they play. All their regular season games at, which is a 35-hundred-seat venue. No, they play at the State Farm. And they're playing a whole schedule next year at State Farm. Next year, I believe. But I do believe they have been at this place that they're playing at now, right? Free Angel Reese, brother. Oh, so Angel got training there this year, right? Yeah. It's her first year in Atlanta. And they are in the finals now? Yes. Yeah. She averaged 20 last round. D-P-O-Y, right? D-P-O-Y as well. Angel! Congratulations. I like that. She's playing against the- Go to State Falkery. Brand new team. Yep. Only been in it. So they'll be in bought now. They're arena. They're atmosphere. And a lot of 49ers players, some other, I think, Steph Curry was in there. Like that. Roberts environment. Yeah. I remember opening night. Remember, there was the pass that looked like a shot into the way up to win. Steal the dub at home. I think it was their home opener. Arena want bananas. It looked like a fever arena. The way that opening night looked. And I think they carried that through those season. They let the league, I believe, in attendance, like 18,000 in game. Unbelievable. At the good start to a new franchise. They want a couple more, too, right? Cleveland and Detroit. Is that the- Cleveland's coming already. Yeah. And this is all because of Engelberg's work. And everybody's trying to run her out. She- No, she retired. Yeah, she got ran out. Well, threw in the white flag. No. This was a- I still hadn't heard the trophy at the end of the season. She is? As she should. That should be her final. She got the biggest CBA deal in the history of women's sports. She got that- I think she should say job well done. Now, managing after getting that deal done, somebody else- That's going to be somebody else's job coming. Somebody's going to do that. But I think Engelberg should get a lot of praise for their amount of billions of dollars. She was able to negotiate into the WMBA, I think. Now, on that note, everybody in that league seemingly did not like her. Yeah, that's true. But she should enjoy the fruits for labor. Hand out that trophy. Exactly. Two-o. Rousing ovation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, man. Sure the top. The top. The top. The top. The top. I don't know how you let that happen in the finals. I don't like it. Engel still. They've changed it. Have it. Yeah, they're playing in the state finals. Let's go! Got it here. That was a couple of answers. There's a couple of concerts. And Mike Vorkanov is reporting that the Atlanta Dream will play. game three and four, the WNV finals, it's the same for Marina. Game three has been moved up a day to October 21st. I like this, adjusting, audibling. Game three will stay on October 24th, but we've moved up to 1 p.m. from 330 kind of night concert. We can probably get this thing in. Maybe a game we can get this in at night. The Atlanta Hawks will move back to their home open by half hour day, 30 on October 24th. There we go, perfect. Read through the rest of the tweet pad. It's right there. Sorry, just had to hit. So they're making it work. I like that. We kind of knew Kudin was going to do that, right? Yeah. They're going to kind of expect that to happen down there in Atlanta. We'd love to have Angel in here. A finals? We dream to have finals in here. Can we move it a day? We can move it a day. What's the commission's name? Anglestone. Kathy Anglestone. Kathy Anglestone. You know that's not right. I'm kind of-- I'm kind of my foot. It's Kathy Anglebert. She's a friend of the program. Yeah? OK. Whenever we did-- I don't know. That has not been announced. I do know that soccer Dave has-- Soccer Dave. Soccer Dave. Soccer is Don Garber now. Why? Soccer Don Garber's Cook. I like Soccer Dave more. Soccer Dave. That's just taken over. I hope he does soccer Dave. Soccer Dave. Soccer Dave. Soccer Dave. Soccer Dave. Soccer Dave. On Instagram. I follow him. He's got his incredible soccer player. Great app. I actually owe him a Game War in Jersey from Concafe from three years ago. Soccer Dave. Yeah. Oh, Soccer Dave. I do. Soccer Dave. I think when you and I were talking about that agreement, we both thought and hadn't understanding that. I was going to have a lot more jerseys than I actually had. And one of those things each year-- And you framed it in putting your house? That's right. But soccer Dave should be running the MLS. I would trust him. I would definitely trust him. Is it Rudy taking over? What about Lou? Messy? Yeah. Yeah. Why didn't he just run the league? You know what? Bigger fish. Bigger fish. So is Beckham running the MLS, then? No. It's the guy who used to own an L.A.F.C., I believe, is taking over for the Soccer Don Garber. I like an L.A.L.A.L.C. I don't even know the L.A.F.C. Yeah. It's having solven. L.A.F.C. is trying to grab an eighth grader from any other school in America. Middle school? Middle school? In America, not even a European middle school? No. It's like grabbing eighth grader. Because no one gives a fuck about the MLS. Like, let this kid do whatever the hell he wants. Maybe it'll end up being better. Lou Messy's moving tickets across the country. He'd take Lou Messy signing up to run the MLS. No, but I'm saying you're talking about the MLS in a way as if he loves the game. They're moving tickets. Don't love the MLS game. He loves what he does on an MLS pitch, which is what he's talking about. Dominate these kids like they are eighth grader. Let's get them into team. Oh, actually, he might have a lead, right? He's going to liquidate that as soon as he can. No, he's not. No, he's getting out, yeah. Yeah. Soccer Dave is going to get in there and take the MLS to a whole new heights. Remember, they moved the schedule. Yeah, it's a great idea. It's a great idea. First people do you think are going to show up to a Chicago fire game in the middle of January when there's 17 inches of snow on the ground in Chicago? And it's like 30 below zero with the wind chill. When was the last baseball look out? 90, what, 95, 92, something like that. First spring in 30 years where there's literally no other competition in the MLS the year before decides we're going to get out of the spring, actually. We're going to go play when everything else is played just horrendous timing for that to happen. But they said a necessity if we want to be respected worldwide, which is what we're aiming to do. That's fine. I'm not going to watch it. I try. Also, next season is a sprint season because of the so in 2027, they're doing a sprint season. It's only 14 games. And guess what? You're going to have a lot of cancellations if you try to do any more net. So the MLS generates approximately 2.5 billion in total annual revenue, averaging roughly 83 million per club across its 30 franchises, league wide total to and a half average club revenue 83 K a lot of repeating staff key revenue drivers gate received to ticket sales. Sure. See local and national sponsorships merchandise people buying jerseys and the league's media rights partnership with Apple TV. Local club revenue is very significantly across the league significantly heavily boosted by store power like Lou Messi in a Miami might be the only clip that I see from MLS every single week. Kevin Sullivan had a two week run there where he was doing some shit. For you. And I like that that was happening. Don't like that the immediate move for Kevin Sullivan whenever he was a great 14 year old was as soon as this kid's a lot of sign papers get out of America, we need to get him the fuck out of here. Now he's playing as a teenager in MLS. He's electrifying. So I guess getting him overseas is best for all parties. Good luck to MLS. We will certainly follow along probably going to bring yeah, I don't know I give up on all the soccer just MLS. Uh, I mean for sure the MLS all soccer though, I just we kind of quit on hall long when he cut his hair had to well, you get me playing in division five soon. So we better enjoy it. Well, it can they're going to have to liquidate him. I mean, what's going on the Premier League is disgusting. They're top of the table. They've been found guilty of 115 charges of cheating and they're celebrating like it's them against the world where you're going to get kicked out of the league. But they're not kicked out of the league, no, no, so it's just pointless games. It makes no sense. I like that kind of me too, I'm almost born for the team that is a lame duck at openly cheating and throwing it in everyone's faces and kind of doing a what was me. And if we win, it's going to get taken back from us to nobody wins. Mm-hmm. Oh, I love that. Yes. Wow, Man City might be the team that might be back. Go see him play Preston in division four next year. That's next year. We're talking about right now. Man City, every one of these wins is going to be canceled. So nobody wins. All they're doing is taking a win away from the Premier League. Is that accurate? They're going to take all this shit back, probably. Yeah, they're appealing right now about goals, though, don't count. None of it's going to count. It's a shame. I don't know why I want to even play. That's what I'm saying. They're acting like any of this matters. It's insane. What's happening? They're going to win, it's going to get revoked. Any championship they win is going to get recused or whatever. I don't know if that's the right word, but taken back. Vacated. There it is, vacated. Oh, and then they just be liverpool, you see? On a shitty red card given by a ref from Manchester. Oh, oh. I mean, it's a disgrace. So it's supposed to be the best leaving the world. I'm disgusted, though. Oh, so this is probably happening because Man City fans probably started chirping a little lever walk alone, light in the back there, finding this. Man City's a plastic club always have been bought by money, bought by cheats. There's no pride with that club. They don't belong in the Premier League with the liverpool legends, Chelsea legends, Manchester United legends, even taught them a legendary club. They've all been robbed, Arsenal, by what they've done. And it's disgusting. I won't stand for it. All right, thank you. I'll be there. Stay strong here. Soccer fans, watch the MLS. Yes. Yeah. Two point five. Nice. Any international fans tuned into the MLS group? Oh, yeah. Bobby Boyngo, late night. When Boyngo's on the pitch. Yeah. Messi's games are global. That's why it was on out. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Messi's games. Yes. I'm just saying in general, like are there soccer fans over in Europe that are watching other announced. Absolutely not. I was just playing for Chicago. Messi is the MLS. You remove Messi. This is a fucking, you know, I go down to the rec center on Saturday, and it's basically the same thing. There's a reason it's had it significantly varies when it comes to income because it's Messi. Then Inter Miami, who probably makes less than Messi. And then there's 20 feet of shit. And then there's all these other teams. Like the Pittsburgh Riverhands. Well, they're not in the MLS. If they were, they would be up there. Remember, they're in the poop there in the championship of the MLS, which is just piss poor soccer. But still, you know, Riverhands have a footprint in Ireland. Yeah. Say, too. And in Pittsburgh. A footprint. A lot of footprints these days, all over the place. Even in trails that are being blazed, they say, "Be a front-elephant, some nice of my change your life. We're in this thing together." What a Tuesday. Still footprints on the moon, right, Ty? Jesus Christ. Here we go again. I'm not even going to, I'm not going to answer that. You'll fuck yourself, AJ. Soccer into the moon. That would have been a real one, two for Ty. Savannah, bananas before that. Oh, yeah. Not going to let her ruin your Tuesday. Not a chance. She hates. I think what AJ was saying, though, is that there's no way. I know what he was saying. Neil Armstrong from Papa Knett, Ohio. We were there. Neil was there. Trust me. Yeah. I don't know why you trying to fucking shit all over his accomplishments every time you get the opportunity. That's an interesting way to treat your statesmen. But, you know. You're asking questions. Just asking questions. I talked to a guy on a sideline at the Texas game and he told me his company had been to the moon 12 times. Boom. Wow. And I said, your company, your people, and he said, we'll talk about some day, and he gave me a card. Fucking Elon Musk. No, not Elon, which is why I was so impressed and surprised. That card is gone. I have no idea where that guy's card is. He came out to me, though, very confident, and said he, his company's been to the moon 11 and 12 times. Oh, man, what are they doing out there? I don't know. And do we know when they go like, I know he just went right, didn't we just go? Yeah, very recently. Did we? We didn't walk on it. Sling shot. Just took up pictures, just making sure everything, making sure that the flag that we planted is still there. Yep. It is. Okay. I see fucking Neil's footprint. I see you. Okay. Yep. We're good. Fucking head back home. It didn't drive us. Yeah. Exactly. golf ball that he hit that thing still fucking yep what about all the space junk they say it's up there how how do we avoid that what we're doing that's all telemetry all telemetry there they they got their systems they're making sure you know when the slingshot maneuver obviously is making sure we don't run into any of that space junk but when the slingshot maneuver potentially slingshot us into the space junk that we can't really calculate because it's kind of just floating out there it's all billion miles an hour track we're track it all it's we're kind of on the outer outer banks of that gravity if you will so we don't have to worry about that it kind of just it's it's it's so it almost flies around it like one of Saturn's rings if you will so in 1969 we knew that yep I have seen it in figures do they talk about the space junk because I think that's a big part it's a big sticking point is it yeah avoid the space junk lot less space junk in the in the 60s too yeah yeah but still a lot of space have been around a long time by then it's pretty big though I don't think it's birthday was in like the 50s maybe though maybe we don't know a lot of poop from the international space station and we weren't pollutant until much later do you think it's us that is putting all this space junk in there big time just us you don't think there's a big time there's a lot of vacuums up there I thought about this the other day when I was talking to coach saving about it vacuums or space junk all the above okay process he said I don't know you know I never really thought about it I said let's think about it you know I put it in a spot like yeah let's let's have something about it yeah let's think about it he's never heard that before let's think about it I've never really thought about it's like all right well it's thinking we got time right now to think about it he was it's really big I don't you know I'm like yeah exactly and everybody thinks that there's only like super smart aliens because those are the ones that could potentially make it thus because we don't have the ability to go so there's definitely stupid species out there on some fucking planet oh it's trapped right just absolutely trapped fucking way dumber than us we're assuming yes yes we're hoping yes definitely we're not the dumbest in the universe let's never forget that single cell over high be a friend tell a friend something nice in my change our life or anything together thank you to ball thank you to sports thank you to the frozen friends he tonight and thank god we are not the dumbest in the universe boom we created football we can't be exactly well said boom they might be really fucking good some of these things that I've seen on the internet of what they could look like big really big but also they got these little fucking low leverage capability jumping off sides every play oh god you can't do that you gotta watch the ball personal next time they line up he he he he he he he can't move okay backs up does it again legal formations yeah we'll never understand football taniards bro you got four downs for it good luck exactly they're never gonna get it and once again I always said we'd win the Oklahoma drill if they ever showed up we definitely win the Usko home but who who out of those fuckers have no idea welcome to the fucking Thunder down they're just sprinting at each other right now this is what you guys do yeah waiting for you motherfucker or if you want to be friends welcome to the good times speaking welcome to the good times thank you for everything you do it's been a blast this football season it's been fun let's continue it be your friend's conference I'm nice about change the life on this together team on me team on three one two three three good bye