PMS 2.0 1639 - MNF Recap, Bryce Young, Vikings Head Coach Kevin O'Connell, Rece Davis, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode. The draft came stunger known on this big time Tuesday, October 6th, 2026. This sports program begins now. Football is the greatest and last night down in New Orleans as they celebrated 20 years of the Super Dome reopening after Katrina. They had a Falcons team come to town for that celebration and boy from the third play on it felt like it was a pretty dominating experience for the Atlanta Falcons against the New Orleans Saints. Now, these Robinson's in the back field for the Atlanta Falcons might be unstoppable, especially because Bijon Robinson, Bijon Robinson, Bijon Robinson. Is it? I think you said it right all three times. Yeah, Bijon. I think Bijon, but he's okay with Bijon. So that was a conversation before Monday Night Countdown, you know, because Scott Van Peltas, who show in DC, J-Mac is in New York and Connecticut. We're out here. You know, so there's different groups of conversations all happening. So I like that we all got on the same page for the show, but now that I wake up this morning, I don't remember which page that was that we were on, nonetheless, he's unstoppable. This guy just watching him warm up and even jog out of the tunnel. He glides. He is a stallion that somehow has the nimbility of a ninja. I would say, I think he has the pull-away speed of a track star. He has the power in the balance of a sumo wrestler from now. And then he has the vision of somebody that a mega-mind. Fighter jet. Yeah, fighter jet. Okay. One of those. Yeah. Fighter jet. Firepower. Firepower. He sees these cuts early. Yeah. Seemingly sees the cuts early. He sets up his blocks. He has the sonar of where dudes are as if he's a dolphin. Does he talk to the dolphin? He speaks to the dolphin. He feels the dolphin. He has every trait that you would want in a running back. And I mean, he's pulling away from people as if he's playing at a different level than they are. He has a different video game setting. It's a different age generation, it feels like whenever an older kid's playing against a younger kid. This is a special talent. And then Brian Robinson had three touchdowns last night. He used to be the starter for the commander. So he's going to die and he's going to shake the shit out of you that offense align unbelievable. Jake Matthews has 200 plus starts in a row. Absolutely. Iron man. He ends up leaving the game. They bring in a six offensive lineman. He pommels people as well. They're willing to do it. Kevin Stefansky's offense. Nick Chubb. So crazy, whenever he was in Cleveland, we've seen him have a great run game in the past. I think you pair that with the fact the penics can spin it for real. And defenses are going to have to respect that. Now, did the New Orleans Saints have a plan for B. John? We don't know. I mean, we didn't look like that. Well, we kind of do know. Yeah. Troy, Troy told us in the broadcast. No, and you're out of that. There is a brother. Very much. Yeah. Troy did say, like, when we were talking to Brandon Staley, he sure sounded like he didn't really know what they were going to do. But you do think about that Atlanta Falcons offense that was on full display. Obviously, they can pummel you and B. John can make magic and Brian can do that. But penics, Drake London is going insane, too, in this particular offense. They are the most high-powered offense that we've seen in some time very quickly. Can they only get better? And why do you think penics has been the key to kind of activate it all? Because before penics was in there with the, I didn't say this. A lot of people have, though. As a talk stable, I boss of Connor and I. Shmit. They probably were the ones that sent me the things that were saying this. One half of the hammer, that Cowboys, AP tone against Pittsburgh Steelers, he definitely saw it. And we're a big Mr. Cush fan. We love Mr. Cush out there. But they're calling him Pupar Rush, man. They were saying he-- Pupar Rush. Yeah. Pupar. Yeah, Pupar didn't flush almost. The dump was just-- they were dumping on Pupar Kush, who has had a great NFL career. Saw him last night. Big lad. I appreciate what Pupar Rush has done throughout the entirety. When he was with Cowboys, we remember the incredible run that he won on. When he was playing terrible football at the Falcon 3, he looked very bad. And we had to start to wonder like, is Kevin Stofanski ever going to get a guy at quarterback position? Penets? I mean, the big question, Mark. Can we say healthy? But if penics, they say healthy, this offense can keep up with anybody, but is that what you saw last night? Absolutely. We had the teller to get popped up before the game yesterday. It's kind of, you know, not real, I guess, because it's the only second game with pinnocks at the helm. And yeah, it's just a full offense, full control of them and offense with those weapons down the field, Drake London. And Kyle Pits, whenever he actually gets involved having that offensive line, AQs, when AQs was here, he spoke, and we kind of all spoke on all the weapons and all the different things that they have in place. But yeah, when you have a quarterback that can operate the system and the number of the numbers, don't look guilty. They don't look unbelievable, but 15 for 20, moving the ball down the field and then the run game. When you have the run game, you can lead on, you talk about Bajan, and then having the guy that could come and spell them with Brian Robison. I know that is hell for defending when you can have a guy resting, catching his breath and another guy running it down, you throw, you keep off those horses, happy in the back field. This offense, man, I think this is just kind of scratching the surface of what they can be. And then on the defense side of the ball, the complimentary football on that side as well, man. This could be a very, very good football team as it goes on. It looks like he's just skating. I mean, close down near 22 miles an hour. That's unbelievable. Yeah. That's that angle. It floats. He also is super happy. It seems like he's such a jolly young. It does feel like they have that entire kind of vibe on their side. When we were on that, their side got a chance to walk and walk around to everything happening in the warm-ups. It's like just the vibes, it felt great. And then talking to Stefansky, you know, let him know we were live on air, we're live. We're live. He goes, okay, already you know, walks away. I don't know what that conversation was going to be. I got a chance to catch up with him at a golf tournament, you know, where you're not allowed to have any phones. And just talking about the situation where, you know, how he felt. He was in what we certainly said about him, you know, and what he heard. And then obviously he had gotten a job already with the Falcons at that point in the same state where that golf tournament is. So talking to him about the current situation and how he got it so quickly and how that was mind blowing us. I mean, like, he got a job immediately and it was like, so the Browns were good. I don't think I understand why he got a job so quickly. And you really started looking at all the quarterbacks. Now, he pushed Baker Mayfield. Not just him, I think him and the Browns pushed Baker Mayfield out of there. They want to play off a game in Pittsburgh. As Cleveland Browns want to play off game in Pittsburgh, somehow Baker Mayfield's a problem. He gets pushed out of town. That's a mistake. I think if you were to go back, now I'm going to Baker May be said. I was a little different person than as well. But you look at the quarterbacks that Saphanski has had to operate with now. Since that moment in his offensive system that he is supposed to be a wizard at, it's like, I think he's been waiting and waiting and waiting for a quarterback that he could probably operate with. He's got to be so pumped with what Pentex has done thus far because I don't think any of us knew. Pentex is one on Monday night football game last year, a week six against the bills. So he's had flashes of being good, but then he gets injured, flashes of being good, then he gets injured. Saphanski knows like, okay, I got to keep this guy healthy. I got to keep him healthy. What can we do that? Run, run, run. Let's worry about the run game here. Let's hopefully keep the pocket a little bit loose. And then I got to give him a weapon. I got to give him some easy throws. They started that game with like a swing, like something easy, quick. Let's let him get going. And when Pentex starts vibe, he can operate any offense. And if you have a great run game, Connor, this Atlanta Falcons team in the offense, I think you can continue to go. And then you've got big brick on the deep side with the DC. The Falcons might be for real. Now, there's another team in the NFC South. That's right. That might be for real. Oh yeah. Go football. It's been exciting to watch this franchise, this city come all the way back to life around ball. And obviously, there's a lot of stories of adversity throughout the NFL and people that don't have things go exactly their way early. And what are you going to do? Are you going to continue to go? Are you going to back down or are you just going to put your head down and go to work? The man joining us right now has put his head down and went to work. And what he has created is a damn good NFL quarterback. And what we saw the other night was a spectacle of talent in a football gumbo, if you will. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers, Bryce Yolk. Yay! So good. What's up? What's up? What's up? Thanks, Yolk, for having me on. OK, so last night, Trumbone Shorty at Monday Night Football Down in New Orleans said he classifies their music as musical gumbo. So it's like every different thing. I think you are football gumbo. I think you have every trait of a football player, especially at the quarterback position. First of all, congratulations on the night you guys had the other night and where your team is now, first maybe a couple of years back whenever you get to the Carolina Panthers. Can you tell me about how you feel? You're with Canalis, another year with Team Mac here, who obviously you guys go crazy. Heading into a buy this year, as opposed to maybe years past with the Carolina Panthers, Bryce? Yeah, I feel excited. It's been great being able to be here for us to grow the way that we have. It's been exciting. And we know there's a some more work to do. I have confidence in everyone in the building. It's a great group of people, the people that I get to work with. It's really a privilege of us just to energy that that's around the building. But again, we know we have a some more work to do still early, so we're excited for that process. Yeah, early in the season. But I think we can see some stuff with some teams that say, hey, they can go. And then we see some stuff with some other teams that we have. That teams ask. I think a couple of times, you know, in the past there's been some Carolina Panthers teams where Carolina Panthers fans have seen early in the year where they go, man, our teams ask. Now, there's a lot of hope down there. Can you feel it from the city? We saw the home playoff game last year. Place was packed out. It was awesome to see the shot. It looked like a gladiator type feeling there behind your back at the open of that home playoff game. How does the city feel and how have you kind of taken in Charlotte as your home? Yeah, now it's been great. You know, it's an amazing, amazing city in Charlotte. The Carolina is a whole, the support we all feel it. We rally around that being able to play at the bank has become a special environment. We've got some special nights. Other night, just that atmosphere, it's electric. But yeah, you definitely feel it throughout the city. And for us, it's our job to continue that, to keep building, and we rally around the city in the same way they rally around us. - Yeah, they showed up for you in a big way. And for my understanding, that is a good home field of image if the team is worth it, church, by the way. How old are you right now, Bryce? - It's 25. - So yeah. - God, leave modern sight. You don't take care of yourself, right? You eat like shit, you eat like shit, don't want to do much? - No, definitely not. I'm on it, I try to be as healthy as possible. - 15 more years? - At least. - So maybe 20 years with the way of science. I can't wait to watch it all, especially as, feels like you're just getting comfortable. Can you tell us a little bit, 'cause your size, you're not six foot four. We're not saying anything about it, doesn't it, okay? But with your size, there is some shit that comes to that and obviously pocket maneuvering in such as a big part of that. That sense of feel was something that they said you had coming out of college. We said, third and 14, I mean, you just, you rolled to your right, smoothly get out of there, off balance, absolute laser to T-Mac, where only he can catch it. That sense of feel in the pocket. In the NFL, everybody faster on the D-line, like have you had to evolve in that aspect? Do you feel like that is just something you've always had? And how does it feel now in this stage of your career in the NFL versus maybe a couple of years back, where maybe things did feel bigger faster for you? - Yeah, I think really it's just more mastery of our stuff. We talk about it here, just trying to master our world. And I think being in the system for as long as I have been, it's nice. So I think that operationally has made everything easier that's really the part that slows things down. And then we work on it throughout, but yeah, I try to make sure I do as minimal in the pocket, as possible when it's that time, and then when it's time to escape or have a little bit more movement, make sure I'm able to do that too. But it's kind of just, I don't know, it's kind of a reaction. You look down, feel it. Obviously you have to process and try to get the, you don't keep your eyes down, feel it. Make sure that you're trying to get the ball to your guys. And then you kind of feel everything out. So having reps, having a great o-line, obviously, it's huge, I trust them. And then having the playmakers we have, they make my job easier. - All right, so if I ever get dropped there in a full game, I'll just come naturally. - That's what you say. - Yeah, that's the sense of you and mastery of what we're doing. Hopefully I'll be able to figure that out. Speaking of mastery, a lot of new voices. Go ahead, Debuff. - Yeah, I mean, mastery, when I'm watching the game, it looks like you're playing and thinking so fast, so comfortable. What's it been like working with Brad? Is it the new play caller? What's kind of your input been with the play calls? And like, at what point in the game week are you comfortable, completely comfortable with the game plan? - Yeah, being with Brad's been great. He's been, he's been huge this whole time here all three years. He's been huge behind the scenes and, you know, drawing up a lot of the plays, but him now calling it. Just as Phil, his collaboration has been great too. He's someone who wants to have those conversations on the sideline throughout the week. He wants my input, he wants all of our input. We're able to have a ton of conversations and it shows up on Sundays. And just, yeah, his feel for everything, his pacing, him and the headset. It's been great. And throughout the week, it's a collaborative process. Try to get as much of that stuff done early. Mondays and Tuesdays, you know, before we're out there practicing, and then once you get reps, you know, we're having those conversations, all right, this feels good. Maybe we could add this, all right, we could take this out. Stuff like that, so, you know, really before, probably before like Saturday morning, that's when you really like put a ball on it, you know, everything's good. And yeah, it's been a great process. I'm excited for us to keep building. And Bryce, kind of just quick follow. How are you as a quarterback? Are you the guy that wants to coach in your ear all the way up into the 15 second mark? You kind of like, hey, get it in and kind of get out. Let me think through this and work through it. Yeah, I'm more just kind of, yeah, just give me a play. And really because of that, it's because of the conversations we have throughout the week, you know, we talk about all the little things whenever we, you know, we're installing stuff. He's giving me his intent for the play. You know, there's certain things that I'm telling him, okay, on this, I think I'm going to, you know, whatever it may be, those little details. So we do all that, another that throughout the week to where on Sundays, it's just, you know, just the play call, you know, I'll communicate the plan whatever we need to to the huddle. And then we go back on the sideline and Brad and everyone, the team, they do a great job being able to make adjustments there. Being able to go and tell our receivers, tell the guys, the old line, hey, we're going to add this, hey, we're going to change this. Even though we talked about this all week, we're going to do something different. That's not easy to do. And my teammates do a great job with that. So that's definitely a privilege. - Yeah, I have to have smart players to be able to adjust on the fly, especially whenever 11 people have to operate in the same way for there to be any success. We talked about Jalen Hertz a couple of weeks ago. He had 10 different play callers in 11 years going back to his college. And I should have done the math for you in college. I assume you had a couple, but you, you've at least had four different play callers since you've gotten to the Panthers two in one year. And then Dave Canales, and then now Edzick, what is the difference? What should we talk about so I could be a little bit more informed commentator on this, 'cause obviously, I was calm on my own plays out there. Okay, that's what I was doing. You know, that's what we used to do back in the day in dirt, you know, we're putting this thing that way. Okay, but for you and for Jalen and for all quarterbacks, what is the little things that you either have to pick up with the new person or kind of figure out with the new person, what is the difference there? Yeah, there's a lot of little nuances. Yeah, playing tent, I think is a big thing. Being on the same page, you can get a call. And obviously, you know, if you're passing the ball, they're going to be multiple people on routes. Us understanding, all right, on this hits, it's third and one, but we're gone for it. So, you know, this is a time to take a risk. Or this is third and one, but we're just trying to move the sticks if not we're punting. Stuff like that, hey, go on, this is alive or the goal is to run off so we can take something underneath. The times you want to go fast, the times you want to, all right, we're going to take all of our time, make sure we're perfect in this play, we're blocked up. That stuff, that's kind of like, it's, you don't have that much time to communicate all that in a game. So, you have to develop that through the week and it's chemistry, understanding each other. And then really just that report too, like throughout the week, all right, you, them knowing, you know, Brad kind of knowing the stuff that I'm going to like me knowing when I talk to him, the stuff that he's getting out. Oh, gee, Brad was like enough. And if we don't need them to know all of our shit, right now. Yeah, the stuff that, you know, the stuff that, you know, we both are trying to get at, you know, the little tendencies that we want to, you know, keep people honest on, little things like that. So, I think it's probably from the outside looking in, how much meeting time and how much stuff outside of being on the field. And there's so much time spent between, you know, all positions, but especially a quarterback and a play collar. So, it's just that relationship, that report, the amount of time to be on the same page. Adds that extra layer of confidence and that extra layer of communication and brevity, which is a word that Brad likes to bring up for the room. That had, we try to play with. I like your brevity out there. Yeah. Anytime I bring some levity over, you know. And there's a bevy of things you could say about this particular relationship. But all of them are law upon trust. It feels like you got to have a great relationship. And you're both putting each other in the best position. And that has to be decided with, I don't know, billions of dollars on the line, everybody on the line. And a play clock that is not stopped. And does not care about your relationship at that exact moment. So, we can assume that you and Brad are only going to continue to grow, which is great news because of how you looked the other night. Let's talk about how you looked the other night and this season in general. There is a guy that's on television 24 hours a day, talking about ball. This is not him. This is Tony asking a question, though. Yeah, Bryce, the guy that Pat is talking about is Dan Orlovsky. He was in the league playing quarterback for a bit. He said yesterday, when watching your-- Do you know who Dan Orlovsky is? Do you know? Yeah, of course. Come on. Go ahead. We don't like to assume. I don't know. That's a fair question. Fair question. Thank you guys for that. But he said, he said, yesterday, on the show, it feels like the ball is jumping out of your hand maybe a little bit more this season. Your arm is actually getting stronger, which is a rarity for a quarterback once he hits the NFL. Is that a thing that maybe is actually true and that something that you worked on in the off season? Or is that just something that is looking like is happening on tape right now? Yeah, I've always felt the same since I've been out here. You're always trying to find some things throughout the off season. And we're always trying to chase our best. I'm always trying to chase my best. So I want to be consistent with that. But yeah, I always felt the same. And then I just have so much confidence in the guys around me. We have a great group of guys. So yeah, I'm always leaning on that. He said, "Dan line." Yeah, actually, I kind of didn't know shit that time. I heard it. He didn't say it. It was in there. You know what I mean? He was trying to-- So Dan's just maybe watching film on Bryce for the first time. Yeah. So that's what it sounds like. Yeah. Is our thing in there? Damn coin, Steph Curry. Yeah, he did. That phrase. That turn. He's going to watch. Come on, now. You're right. He's a big fan of yours. He's going to be bummed out to hear that maybe he had a misread on that. But it does look-- I think that third and 14 had us all thinking, holy shit, this guy's got a howitzer. That ball-- hey, you watched his back, I assume, postgame. the lads hopefully end the family and everybody said holy shit. I mean, that's third and 14 in the fourth quarter, up six. Can very loose. You can lose this game. And this could be a miserable night if this play doesn't happen in this exact moment. And the question is now the guy that caught that ball seems outrageous. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah. Bryce team act has been, I mean, he was great last year, but Sunday night, you know, did kind of seem like his, you know, national moment coming into the spotlight. What is your guys relationship and kind of rapport development been like? It was weird when he got drafted. I feel like there were, you know, some people in the media try to say like, oh, this guy doesn't really love ball that much. And like, they thought it might be an issue. And clearly, ever since he's got there, he's been unbelievable. And it feels like you truly do have a, a number one guy who you can rely on. What's your guys relationship been like? And did you know, you know, kind of in the off season going into this season? Like, oh, man, he's poised to have a massive year. Yeah. Yeah. Team act special. So much stuff you can't teach the way that he thinks about the game approaches a game, it's special. Yeah. I think that also really is off season. I've, you know, I've known him for a while. We actually played against each other in high school. So I've always followed him. And, and no, he's been special. But I think this off season was just another level of respect that I have for him and his game for him to go out and have a great rookie year, obviously, rookie of the year. It could have been easy for him to go into the off season and just like, you know, just, just sing his own praises be like, I'm good. You know, I got this NFL thing figured out and not work hard. But it's around him a lot. And the amount of work he put in, the amount of attention to detail he had, the strain he had, you know, it was stuff that, and it wasn't him, you know, in front of a bunch of cameras showing the world. It's just stuff that, you know, I got the privacy because I was around him. You know, he, he was grinding. And again, it's the mindset. Like he was, you, you could ask him about his rookie year and it's like, hi, and he'd be like, I, like, I, this is what I want to improve on. I want to get better at this. And he takes that approach every single day. You know, he comes in and works, puts his head down, grinds, practice. He's always trying to strive for the best on the side, get extra reps in. If there's something that doesn't go well, we don't connect on something and practice. He's not just I, whatever. It's coming to all right. What do you think about this? Let's get it on the side. Let's, let's work on it. And again, all that stuff is, it's special. So, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm just grateful he's with us. Yeah. I, the sounds of a quarterback singing as number one wide receivers praises like that. Or is it a beautiful thing if you're a Panthers fan? Because obviously, since the beginning of time, a number one QB and a number one wide receiver have been able to carry teams to the highest of highs. We think back to the past and everything you just said there about Team Mac is so interesting because coming out of college, you need a lot of ball. Remember, that was the thing. He didn't love ball. That was the narrative about him. And I assume he heard that. And then there was a narrative about you, too. You're too, you're a boss. You weren't going to be able to make it. Your generation, you're 25. I mean, you're definitely young. You're old, though, too, to some, you know, so I mean up there. I walked around Disney World the other day and my whole body is cramping. You know, that's what life is. That's what life is as you get there. Your generation, though, has kind of grown up in hearing everything that's said about you. Or because we were told, don't read it. But that's when there's like three newspapers in the entire city. And it's like, hey, don't read the press clip. It's like, cool. I would never look at a newspaper. You got it. I won't see a damn thing. Now it's like forced upon you. All these things that kind of got casted at you, obviously, whenever things happen at the beginning of this. And then a team act has got done the ball. You have to hear it. Do you rally around that your generation? Do you just understand that that's life? Like how do you kind of view it as this next generation of franchise quarterback that has grown up in this entire world that we currently call home now? Yeah. I mean, I don't want to speak for everyone in generation, but no, yeah. You're speaking for a whole fucking generation right now. Good luck. Give them a full screen here. Put this on here. Show them this. Yeah. I mean, we're definitely, yeah, we're definitely just, you know, you grow up with it. Obviously, you're more pretty supposed to it. And it's part of life. Me personally, I'm like, I'm not on social media. I don't go on there. So it probably is a little easier for me to avoid stuff than probably most good or bad. But, you know, for me, honestly, I'm being my faith. That's why I draw my purpose from there. You know, so good or bad. I try to let that be my God in light. I trust a lot of people around me. I'm definitely not. I'm not too too big to learn or to, you know, take in criticism. But I'm selective of who that, you know, who I'm going to listen to. The people in this building, the people that I trust and have rapport with, those are the people that, you know, if they have a criticism, there's something that, you know, feels like I need to get better at. And that's what I, you know, that's what I value. That's what I listen to. You know, I do everything for this building. If it's someone who has an opinion outside, again, good or bad, you know, I'm grateful for the engagement, you know, the sports so big because people care like that. But me personally, I'm probably not really going to put anything into it or, or, or engage. But, yeah, that's just my approach. And then, yeah, I'm sure our entire generation, we all have a lot more time with it. I think our generation can learn a lot from your generation if you're representing the entire generation. Hey, I'm not wasting any energy on you, buddy. Okay. It's hard for me to do that. I got a lot of people that are much smarter than you that I trust a lot more than I take a lot more ownership of their inf, that's like a 50 year old wisdom right there, bro. You are, hey, what a perfect franchise quarterback, especially with everything that you've gone through already, the adversity. And then now a team with Morgan and Tepper and Canalis and you all growing in a city that loves ball, special stuff feels like it's working. Cut that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're about just that time. Time. Well, we're about close to that time. And every interview he does, I think going forward, dead numbers only go. Yeah. Congrats to you on all of that. You've earned it all. You talked about people that are in your circle that you obviously have trust for. Connor has a question for you. Yeah. Bryce, before Carolina, you're obviously a Alabama legend. And Nick Sabin's got his dot coming out. I believe you're in it. What does he mean for you as far as a football player? How has he helped you kind of progress from, you know, high school to legend at Bama to now? And did you reach out to him and talk to him when you had those early struggles in Carolina? And what is kind of your relationship today with him? Yeah. No, he's helped me a ton as a player, as a leader, as a person, being able to go to Bama and just him set that standard just to be able to learn from him, watch how he operated, watch how he cultivated just an environment, all the little habits, being able to study that for three years, that's invaluable. And yeah, actually, before I even got to reach out to him, he reached out to me when everything was going on. And he was, and you know, that's the person he is. He cares about his players. He was there for support and advice. I've been able to talk to him, you know, multiple times since. And he's always there in supporting. He's always always watching, always keeping up. And obviously to have, you know, the best coach to ever do it, you know, have that support and have that advice and just have that as a resource. Yeah, I mean, I'm super grateful. You going to watch the doc? Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, I'm super grateful that I got to be a part of it. How was it? How was it? Did you feel like they were setting you up for got your questions? No, it wasn't bad. It was actually a while ago. I want to say they asked me, like before last season, which like just shows how much work has been going into it. Like they've been working on it for a while. So yeah, and I'm excited for the world to see sick. That's Thursday, I believe six or seven part series. Sabons last dance, if you will, as they celebrate the greatest college football coach of all time. Oh, there you were. I just saw your ball. You're like, you did look younger. It was a little longer. Yeah, you look a little younger than. Oh, no. And it fell years past. No, it's me. Yeah. I did that a couple of times in this convo. All right, enjoy your buy week. Thank you for joining us. Good luck. The rest of the way. Tell everybody we said hello. For sure. No, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. All right, man. Well, tweet you won't see it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, dude, I give the man laser German right. Yeah, guys. See a 60 year old? What was that? Awesome. Very mature. Unbelievable. Yeah, like I'm sure you have good thoughts and opinions. I like the engagement. That's why the league. Yeah, like I'm all the right or the rest. Oh, like thinking about the promotion of the league. Okay, it's good that you have those thoughts. I'm happy or emotional. We like those types of emotions. Now I'm just going to go ahead and keep it moving this way because the building. How about how many times you talked about the building? Yeah. Think about Panthers fans here and that. He got benched there. You could see how a modern athlete could get incredibly jaded and upset. Get me out of here. Number one overall picky. All right, you're gonna bench me. I don't think so. I want to go somewhere else. Could have caused a lot of shit. Could have caused a lot of drama. Could have forced his way out to another team that would have been certainly open to having him for what? Third round, second round. He could get a good deal on him. He could have done all those things. Yeah. Instead, sat there, watched Andy Dalton, the red rocket play quarterback, kind of learned. And for the first time, didn't have the pressure of being the guy, maybe in his entire life. I was just reminded that he was a high school. He was on TV in high school, doing the top of them as a high school quarterback. It's like he has been the guy. And on top of the the world with the pressure of the world on him since he's 17. 18 years old. So for a time to just kind of reset, take a step back, kind of reevaluate who he is, what he is, and then to come back on the other side and play the way he's playing. That's a beautiful American Dream story, especially in our sport. Oh yeah, you talk about obviously from a global standpoint or obviously number one sport in the country, but even for his team, for his organization like he's in some ways following Cam Newton who was the biggest kind of star, you know, one of the biggest stars in the league, but definitely for the Panther's been in MVP's taking that team to a Super Bowl. And just I was there for a year for Cam's rookie, you're actually in just the whole vibe he had around that stadium in that city. So now Bryce kind of bringing that energy back being a part of a big part of that being a starting quarterback, being a franchise quarterback. So pressure within that building to get back because the Panthers are, you know, relatively young organization, but they've been to a Super Bowl now twice already, you know, had the great ones with Smitty, the early runs in the Cam era, and now you kind of that Bryce young era. And there, you know, we talked about pinnocks before coming on. Obviously shut looks like he's going to be around as well. So it's kind of like a young little nucleus of quarterbacks and teams in that NFC South where that should be exciting. What do they do? Uptown, not downtown. Uptown. What do they call it? The Queen. Queen City. Queen City. That's a good town. Oh yeah. It's a great town. Happy hour town. He's got a lot of banking issues. So a lot of rooftop happy old things. Yeah. The dream. Yeah, but then everything is empty about 830. 8 o'clock 830. That city is basically emptied out. And then we're back tomorrow. Happy hour. Everybody's excited to be out of our, out of our, it's a good city. I've been down there a lot. Great howl at the mood down there. Great howl at the big time hub for American Airlines as well. Well, so easy to get in and out. And then also, yep, Bingo. You want to go see some cars, burn some rubber down there. We've got a round. Joining us now form a quarterback in the NFL, we've seen the tape of him getting cut. Yeah, anyway, we all have hate scene. It was unfortunate for me teaming, but it kind of led him to where he is today. That's right. A super genius. Man is the head coach of the undefeated Minnesota Vikings. Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin O'Connor. How are you doing, man? How many times are we going to talk about me getting cut? Well, it's just a nice reminder that everybody goes through something. We're all from somewhere. We just want to tell people that you, you've been in that seat before when you turn, you weren't good enough after getting to the highest level. So we just want to, you know, let people know who we're talking to here. It's not just a great jawline, you know, it's not just a phenomenal jawline. It's not just a great, you know, offensive strategy, which we got to get into, okay, which we definitely got to get into. This is former player who's done great. So we're incredibly proud of the fact that you are a former player that's now a head coach. Let's talk about it. Your team's undefeated, and I assume the way you look at it is we can only get better. That has to be a great place to be. How do you view your spot right now is one of the only undefeated teams left in the NFL? Yeah, Pat, coming into this year, you know, really kind of viewed the early part of this season as we were going to be learning about what kind of football team we had, but at the same time, we kind of learned towards the tail end of last year, you know, some concrete principles that would matter for our team. And we needed to do those to start the season, to give ourselves a chance to get off to a good start in the wind column, which was protect the football force turnovers, possess the ball, and, you know, allow our defense, which is coming in the year, what I felt would be the strength of our team. We've gotten great kicking game performances, as well, not only from World Riker, but our return game and our coverage units. We're just playing good, smart football right now. Now the next phase is, as you mentioned it, or alluded to, I do think we've the continued evolution and growth of the 2026 version of our offense. We want to continue to be more consistent, get Kyler as comfortable as possible and build on some things from the other day that I thought were some real positives for him and our offense, specifically in the second half. And now we, you know, have to go try to do those things on the road at a really hard place to go play that you know well from last night at the super dome. But I'm happy with where our team's at, but we've gotten off to good starts before in other seasons that I've been here as the head coach and the mindset is a continual growth, continuing to try to become the best version of this team as we press onward, you know, versus a challenging schedule that's out in front of us starting this week against New Orleans. I love the transparency of what I was alluding to. I think you got a pretty good read on what I was alluding to about the offense. There's a lot of stats talking about that. But I think the way we view you is you could put Boston Conor a quarterback and Kevin O'Connor will be able to figure out a way to get a win because that is what you had done in the past. And then obviously Sam Donnell Brungo's crazy last year is what it is. You make the decision go with Kyler early in training camp. It felt like there was a competition that we are learning about. What is it about Kyler that you love to see in your offense? And what do you envision for Kyler in your offense both now and when you signed him to the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah, I think Kyler's talent both as a passer and obviously his athletic ability to play within and out of the pocket. It's something that we saw early on from the first few days when he got here in the spring to what progressed throughout training camp. I think as we've gotten into the season, knowing that he's really in a position where I think he's played 150 snaps, missing a little time after only getting 11 snaps in the opener. You hope you just get a smooth transition in that build. Each and every drive from the time the season starts up until week five is win, but he played a second complete game of the season at home the other day and I thought really started to come to life anticipating, activating some throws to TJ Hawkinson. All 13 of the targets to TJ were completions and impactful plays. Got Addison going in the middle of the field as well. So I think we've seen bits and pieces of what we want our offense to look like. I've got to do a better job, you know, correcting some of these, you know, pre snap early down penalties and negative plays that are forcing us into some third and longs early on in games, which is limiting our ability to find a rhythm, which we were able to do as the game went on the other day. But the only other thing I would just say is, you know, I think there was a time and a place where statistically, you know, you're trying to hunt those big plays and they help you win and they do explosives are a huge factor for winning games. But I think, you know, staying committed to running the football, staying committed to, you know, playing a type of offensive football where we do protect it. I think we're third or fourth in the league in the fewest amount of turnovers. We're trying to make sure no matter what. We are setting the stage in the table for our team to play four quarters and find a way to win without doing some things that quite frankly, you know, hurt NFL teams' chances to win because you do those things before you ever give yourself a chance to win. And our teams learn that. I think there's a maturity that comes with that that you can only gain by experience. And I'm talking about myself as much as anybody. But at the same time to get to where we want to go and to truly compete with the elite teams in this league, we're going to need to play better on offense. And we know that our players know that they can watch the tape and see, hey, we're really not that far off, but the detail, the urgency, the understanding that we are in it. And when you're in the season and looking to find that consistency, every minute matters, every practice day matters, every walkthrough matters. And then let's take it to the game and start to see it come to fruition a little bit more consistently for the greater good of where I think this team's going. Sounds like the way you want your offense to be right now is let's not mess this up for the defense that we have. Okay, our defense is going to keep us in every single game. Our defense is going to beat everybody. We need to not turn the ball over. We need to not put them into bad positions. And in the fourth quarter, we need to go in these games. Patrick Mahomes talked about this the last Super Bowl that they won because Spagnola's defense, he said he had 11 quarterbacks, 11 green dots on the field. Patrick Mahomes came out and said, I actually had to learn how to be like, yeah, we can punt here. Yeah, we can run the ball more. He was doing that during the season because they could rely on the defense. You said, coming into this season, you knew the defense was going to be the strong point of your team. And it sounds like you've had to evolve a bit as the way you view it, not just everybody else on the field because you admitted that yourself there. Is that real? Is that a real thought coming up in the air? It's like, hey, our defense is going to be unbelievable with B-flow. We need to change the style or change the way we think about what an offensive possession should look like or how it should end. Yeah, I think there's a couple of things with that. First of all, you get to a point as a head coach where you know the only thing, you know, Bud Grant, you know, God rest his soul. He taught me the first year that I was the head coach of the Vikings. I'd meet with him every week and early, early on, coming off of a Super Bowl in LA and having all kinds of ideas for an offense and how we were going to play. He very simply just said the goals to have more points than you're opponent on a Sunday and then you worry about the next one next. And I kind of laughed it off, but you do this job long enough. And you know, there's certain decisions you make throughout the game, certain decisions you make throughout the week putting together a game plan. What's it going to take to win the game? What's the best avenue to take to go do that? And for us, our defense playing in close football games with the type of scheme and the type of adjustments and the type of attack mode that they can be in that wears on opponents. And especially learning the way that in a given moment, like we saw in the opener, there can be an absolute avalanche for an opponent of negative football with the way we played defensively. You stack that with what we've done in the kicking game and knowing that Will Riker can ring the bell and get you three points from anywhere in the gym. You just have to evaluate how to coach those games, all well knowing that what you are today, I've learned this in a couple seasons where we've specifically had a ton of success, but where we really, when it mattered the most, we want to progressively build to that. And if we can win every game along the way, sure, let's do it. That's the goal to win a game every week that you get afforded an opportunity to play in this league. But we have a lot of confidence within this building of where we can get to. Now that's all just words and coach speak until it actually comes to life. And I'm excited about the challenge of chasing it, specifically with our offensive group every week. All well knowing that locker room, everybody is forged together in a way where they know the goal, they know whatever it's going to take to win a game is going to be what we do. And that can look a lot different each and every Sunday. And I think we're prepared for that. And I'm excited to keep chasing these wins. One point more than the opponent. And then we'll worry about the next one. What a piece of advice for a sport that involves good, yeah, it is pretty good. So simple. Yeah, you're right. I guess we all keep our jobs. Everybody's happy. We just win the game. All right, let's try to do that. Now winning the game can come in different ways, especially in modern world. You know, you don't score a touchdown. Things don't happen. People start wondering. But it sounds like the culture is want to just get in a dub. Debud has a question for you. Yeah, great seeing you coach, especially here at undefeated. I got all the confidence in the world which you guys will figure it out in all offense. Start putting those points up. You talked about penalties, time management, all these different things about winning games. TJ Hockison, he went down without scoring the touchdown. He drew up a beautiful play. Is this a conversation you had with him before him? Because a lot of fantasy managers, a lot of same game parlay, parlay, better stuff right now. What's the conversation with TJ obviously smart football right play when the ball game. But was there a conversation between you and TJ? That was Debud, you know, you're familiar. You get into that point in the game and you know a first down ends it and you can kneel it out from there. That was by far the hardest, you know, we call that Rolex. That was the hardest Rolex decision to make since I've been a head coach. Just knowing that, you know, it's really, really smart people like Pat are going to talk about how we didn't score touchdown in the game. No! First down in two minutes. No timeouts. We win the game. I know the number. But let's just put it this way. Our defense played a lot of snaps. We've seen that. They played 41 on Sunday against the Miami Dolphins. We go in the end zone right there. You're probably looking at at least, you know, another, you know, a potential two-minute drive where some really important players that have played a lot of football, you know, go back on the field for defense. We've been hit with the injury bug on offense, which is never excuse, but to get those guys 41 snaps and some real good football on the defensive side like they've done all year. If it means, you know, having to, you know, we know exactly what that play was designed to do. We know, I told our offense, if you want to score, do it earlier. And don't put yourself in that situation where we got to, you know, go down. But how about TJ, man, at the end of that day, to go down like that and do what's best for the football team? I felt it in the stadium. I'm sure I would have felt it, you know, far and wide with some of the implications that you mentioned, but, you know, but that's part of our game and not exactly hanging the 15-10 score on the mantle at home, but I will take a four-and-oh season to start. Definitely take a four-and-oh season to start. And for people that don't know, I think it's a good time to tell them. Two minutes left. If the other team has no timeouts, you have a first-down game over. That is, that is, that is, at since the beginning of the new Mart timeout rules, that is the goal for everybody to get to. Keep van Noys, old ass and silent. It's got ice for both those knees. Both those knees got ice. They're ginky too, but I don't know how this guy's still doing what he's doing. They got something going over there. 'Cause they're blitzin' more than anybody. Oh, yeah, they're playing, they're playing. More than ever. How does that, they beat your ass in practice? How's that going? You got to call them off. How does that go in practice, would be flowin' the way he operates? The fun part about it is like every single week, I wait to see, you know, what people's plan. Against it is gonna be 'cause we try just about everything. (laughing) You know, we've had every, you know, every person besides the quarterback, I think throw a block to try to protect from some of those blitzes or try to get some runs off. It's a really, really dynamic scheme that, you know, just does, you know, does a world of hurt from a standpoint of just the mental warfare of every snap. You can't take one snap for granted, playing against those guys. And, you know, in year four, you know, of the evolution of it, the type of adjustments and the quick fixes they can make based upon how you try to, you know, go about attacking them. It's so impressive what those guys are able to do and it's become a real weapon for us to go win. - And some of you, some of those old ass guys that we mentioned, it helps 'cause you watch the tape and it's like, the pattern matches, the pattern reads, they're obviously prepared for what teams are running. So, not only are they running blitzes, maybe they're only sim five or maybe just sim four, but the guys are dropping out and looking up like everywhere else. So, you stop the route and then you stop the tape when the quarterbacks are top of the drop, even if they're protecting nobody's open. So, you then you just start to go, like KLC said, that mental warfare, like, so yeah, blitzin is one thing, but when you have the blitz and then on the back end, especially as a DB, when I'm not asked out in zero coverage for 60 snaps, that makes it a lot better, but it's ugly right now. It's tough to figure out. - The highest blitz rate, there's a hembo stat. The highest blitz rate for any defense in a season since the ESPN began tracking at 2006. It's 52.4% by the 2009 jets wrecked Ryan and the boys. The Vikings are blitzing, they're opponents, 68% of the dropbacks this season. - Mental warfare is what the head coach of that team says. This is every single snap that quarterbacks. Go ahead. - Maybe the reason for that is that famous clip that you talk about it, maybe in release, took place at the end of that training camp. I eventually went back there, but yeah, that is an interesting stat to see. Maybe that's why we've become what we've become here to spite the 2009 jets. - How about you? I couldn't figure it out. - I made it to the AFC Championship that 2009 jets. - I'm saying, Josh? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - I can't remember who they lost here, but-- - The day lose two. - Steelers, oh, it was a Steelers. - Was it? - Yup. - Unbelievable. - No, it was not, it was the Indianapolis Colt. - Oh! - How are you talking about that, bro? - That must have been a wait. - Was that the team that we let you guys in? If you do recall, the end of that season, the Indianapolis Colt, I was a rookie punter who didn't know how to punt. I could not believe I was there. I was enjoying every moment. Just know that, but they chose to lose the last two games. We benched everybody. That was a bill polling decision. We're 14 and 0 going into the last two games, and they benched everybody. And we let the Jets in. That Jets beat us, one of those games. Let the Jets in, then the Jets get high. - Yeah, beat the pass. - And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, you let these fucking guys in. Now you're running to them. And we win, thank God, and then we lose the Drupurys, which full circle moment last night, 20 year-end. It was, there's a lot of that happening in ball. I like that you have decided, if you can't beat them, join them. Listen, maybe-- - Right. - I can't figure out this blitz of practice. So, I'll be excited to see if anybody else can figure this out. And I'm pumped to hear that you are trying to see just one offensive coordinator figure out B flow, so you could drop that shit on a Wednesday against, or on a Thursday against B flow. The battle's between you two, all training camp. We should put that on TV. Hey, okay, no, you're in the middle of C's. I can't ask about that. (laughs) - Joint practices, I think are gonna become the new training preseason games. Is that what it feels like? I don't want to take it too far out of back in time, but it does feel like that's probably what's coming, right? They're super important, and especially-- We don't play the Minnesota Vikings defense all season long, so for us to do nothing but play against them for a month, those joint practices become very, very important. For both sides, you know, not to get to my eye or going against the same guys every single day, and to also not expose a lot of important players on your roster to those preseason games to get them ready. They're really important when handled the right way. We've done a ton of them. I love 'em, and always really enjoy getting the chance to welcome people here, especially we got a great place to host joint practices here in Minnesota. - That's gonna become March Madness, I think. I think we're gonna do a way with some of the preseason games or probably one like bubble preseason game at the end, and this is not the right time to be doing this, it's just worth it and you're a good brain for the future of the NFL. Those joint practices are gonna get televised though. That's gonna become what it's gonna become. Like a red zone of joint practices, get rid of the preseason games, have a bubble one at the end. - I don't know, we'll see, too many plays. I don't know if the players are gonna like those joint practices. - No, of course not. - You're gonna have to negotiate that shit, Kevin. You're gonna have to get in there and negotiate that. You know the players are gonna have their say. As you were a player, and we did see that heartbreaking day whenever you got released. - Let's talk about the MC North a little bit. Ty has a question for you. - Yeah, Coach, I'll just tell you as a fan of a team that you play in as in your division, boy, does it fucking suck watching those games when you just, you know, your quarterbacks just getting blitzed, left and right, [BLANK_AUDIO] answers so you got that going for you for sure and obviously you're not going to put too much stock into early season wins like this but when you are already 2-0 in the division how much confidence does that give you guys and almost like leeway with hey we're still figuring out who we're going to be offensively we have a pretty good idea defensively but now we do have two games in hand in the division for down the road when we feel a lot more comfortable with what we're doing offensively. Yeah I think it goes into kind of the method of how we you know are going about things early on in the season we want to be a better version of this team as we progress along but I will say getting two hard fought wins against you know teams in the NFC North it's critical we know our division's so good the coaching is so good you know not Chicago Green Bay Detroit all those teams are going to be whether you're playing them at home or you're playing them on the road these these these games determine so much in the NFC it seems like every single year and you know whether it's the Green Bay Packers getting healthy and getting Michael back it's Chicago and what Ben's doing eventually getting Caleb back but they're playing great football they we know that that's that's their standard of of how they do things I got all the respect in the world for Ben and and then you know in Detroit you know there's there's no tougher team out there mentally physically tough group that that you know it all comes from their head coach and and what Dan preaches and how they build the organization so that's what our that's what our division is we know that we know what it's all about we know it's gonna you know as you start getting into October and then on into November December the NFC North is always going to have a massive say in kind of how that NFC playoff picture looks your team and the Lions playing for the NFC's number one seed two years ago is that two years ago three years ago two years ago two years ago this Darnell Loan Super Bowl last year oh yeah football justice you don't have to talk about it yeah that's what it is I don't like that KOC at all there is a wide receiver you have that seemingly is not from our planet go ahead Connor last question KOC thank you man yeah KOC you mentioned it kind of banged up a little bit on offense and that's with Justin Jefferson how is he doing what are the vibes around him and how many more plays do you just have sit in there where you know like oh shit I wish Justin was out here so I could call this today yeah there's a few for sure and you know he's he spent some time with Randy Moss Randy Moss has been spending some time background our facility it's been awesome but when Randy and Justin are watching tape together they come up with some some pretty damn good ideas I gotta say but he's doing great you know he kind of got a lot of the initial soreness and things out last week and see what he's able to kind of handle from a practice standpoint leading into Sunday but don't know exactly where he's going to be at we have the buy next week so obviously as a whole offensively we need to get healthy we should be getting Jordan Mason back after the buy you know Christian Darisaw some other players even though we lost Donovan Jackson at left guard which is a killer because he's having a great season we feel like we're going to be getting stronger getting more healthy as we move forward and getting Justin back this week would be massive especially going back to his hometown in New Orleans. Randy Moss just hanging around Justin Jeff sounds I don't think that's fair that might help oh that doesn't sound yeah you look at him yeah it's not fair and we love it yeah Randy we actually got Randy a house here if he needs a hangout he come hanging out anytime he wants we appreciate you for stopping by brother good luck the rest of the way yeah thank you guys always appreciate the time that's the undefeated Minnesota Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connor the NFC North looks like this Minnesota Vikings for now the Chicago Bears 3-1 detra lines two and two packers two and two not a bad division there strong not a bad division there the AFC North 3-1 3-1 2-1 2-1 2-1 2-1 2 good division everybody in the AFC East seemingly has opportunity to turn around whoa whoa whoa don't don't need an opportunity some teams have already turned it around so now quickly get a little chirpy up there that's opening the door yeah yeah yeah we'll see we'll see who walks through it but yeah now just enjoy my view yeah I love I love you guys are all the way back yeah me too that's the way that is aFC West can see cheese four no it's hard to put any team above them and it is really hard but with what that Falcon team was showing last night it's hard not to take them incredibly serious right now we just saw Bryce Young Carolina Panthers also a very good football team me the Raiders Raiders good football team there's a lot of good football teams right now and that Falcon's team last night just getting a chance to watch it the way Beijon runs I don't think I've ever seen it it's it's like a gazelle I don't want to what's that a safari animal that is out there and people compare the only name it comes up is is buried and like and that's that's like a it's almost sacrilegious comparing anybody to bury Sanders but that's the only person you can compare him to we had Shady during my area which which during my era which wasn't he wasn't as fast as Bajon but like everybody had to be at the point of attack you can cut back and make these different plays but he is just he is unbelievable doesn't look like he's running now that's what is so shocking by like even with you know the comparison right now is Gibbs and Beijon like those are kind of the two at the top of the clasp like when Gibbs is running hard it looks like it like when he is running at top speed it's just he's floating the entire time it's insane and penance do you see him walking in that building oh yeah he looked cool with shit and he looked like he knew what was about to happen in there it feel it felt like they all about all the other shit that we don't see on TV like in between the stuff we usually have eyes on with boots on the ground like with pinnocks I guess like we saw the more like just so comfortable okay just so comfortable Stefanski is he stalking the sideline like happy he looks so comfortable like he he looks so just kind of just add ease you know walk even the warmest whenever I told him like hey we're live we're live all right just kind of turned around the other way walking out of the tunnel before the team comes out you know I quick give him like a how's it feel to have like a quarterback just like and then just like kind of walk so it's like so confident just an ambija bija does a smile on his face at all times while he's jogging around and then they're off it's a line I mean everybody's a monster on the NFL football field they're off it's lines unbelievable top five football team in the NFL let's go football team that's a great football great football team it started with kettle on a panthers and packers last I know we had never the panthers just beat the hell out of the packers tigers hey panthers that's good for everybody needs to relax about us losing it's good football found the same thing I don't think a lot of people expecting them to be good their fan base might get mad they might be great we'll see on the other side the greatest week four of the NFL season wrapped up last night in New Orleans as the Saints hosted the Atlanta Falcons in the Atlanta Falcons get the win 45 hmm she's 24 with five touch stands coming from the Atlanta Falcons running back room and then also Michael pennex in his second start back after recovery has looked absolutely cerebral the Atlanta Falcons just might be one of the top teams in the entire NFL and you would have never said that at the first couple weeks whenever there was a different quarterback in then a guy who was selected top ten out of Washington comes in with Kevin Stofanski who's known as an offensive genius and they start slicing and dyson and cooking on the road you went in lambo in prime time on Thursday night and then you stack that on top of with a Monday night in the super dome win back to back weeks on the road maybe some road warriors as well heading back to Atlanta with a very different story and internet action now that just a few weeks ago congrats Atlanta Falcons getting another big time win congrats on New Orleans Saints and the New Orleans community on a celebration that was the 20 year anniversary of the super dome opening back up after 13 months down from Katrina there was 1,392 deaths caused by Katrina there was 30,000 people that called the super dome home for 12 days there was an entire region that was obviously devastated and then there was a super dome that was reopened and a celebration was had about you know adversity and perseverance and grit and staying together and community and what sports does and Steve Gleason's blocked point is still referred to not only with the statue but as a moment where the entire city felt like they were completely back after devastation so there was a magical night down there and the Saints team just you know it's sweet I think they were caught up in in celebration as well and they couldn't stop the Atlanta Falcons for the life of no no and if I could do that to a lot of teams the talks tables here at bus corner and attachment Atlanta Falcons that's a really good football team yeah unfortunately if it seems like you know whatever we kind of do this I get the taste a couple weeks in advance you know at the hands of just an absolute piss pounding against the Packers but hey sometimes that happens you know you you you find out a couple weeks before they really hit their zenith hey this is the potential to be a great football they're good football team right now they might become a great football team in a couple weeks and I think we saw that with the Falcons and that's kind of always been the case with panic it's like when this guy's healthy he's unbelievable he just can't stay healthy but you could tell boy I'll tell you what when you got a quarterback that makes a hell of a difference when when you're not you know trot and pooper rush out there I'll do respect that that's not me a lot of people say he was really they're really good with him though too I don't know if anyone was no like if if you're a football team and you got a win against Falcons even with good brush that's a good don't even count it oh you're talking about Pittsburgh Steelers any there was two weeks before the Panthers and steal it, you're right, stealers did play them. - What team are you a fan of? - UK and Duke's, baby. - And? - Pits very stealing. - So you're saying the Falcons of Poupa Rush, which were one of the worst teams in the league. - Possibly ever. - They actually had stats that said worst in the league. - They were in the side division, yeah. - And then they were best in league in points, whenever Penix gets back. How do you kind of account for that dub early? 'Cause there are two very different teams already in this very short season of the 2026 year of the NFL. Now nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Poupa Rush getting a lot of slander right now. Poupa Rush had a hell of an NFL career, okay? Hell of an NFL career. - Still going by the way. - Yeah, so almost not. He was in full uniform size tonight. I didn't know coaches do that. He was in full uniform-- - Is it a full uniform impact? - To a full uniform impact. - Oh. - Full uniform impact. - What about that? - That other guy. - Two, it looks very good. - Jack Strand. - I didn't see Jack Strand. I did see Zach Wilson, Spencer Ratler. - Yeah. - That's the other side. He was talking about quarterback rooms last night. It was a who's who of, oh, I know, I know, I know, I know. But Poupa Rush had a hell of a run. But I think everybody in Atlanta is very excited the penance is the quarterback. - Oh yeah. - Brick on a defensive side. He had the boys humming as well over there. - Flying around. - Tyler Schuck had a couple moments where he couldn't find, but instead the Falcons put him to sleep. - I mean, Tyler Schuck, I think he's showing, he's everything you want in the quarterback. And you know, you want to say young quarterback because of his NFL experience, but his age. You know, he's in his prime, but he has everything. But they just, they don't have a run game. When you don't have a run game, it's tough when you know the guys just pin their ears back and get after you. So it's gonna be difficult for them going down the line. They got Minnesota next with B flow. So we'll see how they handled that. But Atlanta, yeah, that defense flies around and just mentioning, you just mentioning those quarterbacks, like all of those different quarterbacks. Just a reminder every time, like, just how tough it is to play in this hard-ass, tough-ass league. - Yeah. - You talk about Spencer Ratler, you talk about Zach Wilson, you talk about Tua, like you talk about all these guys, different starts, some top five picks, some late round picks. It's just unbelievable. Anytime one of these guys kind of hit their stride, especially if they face some adversity early and then start having success in the league. But yeah, man, and look, Atlanta Falcons, obviously a quarterback makes a difference. I was one of the people bitching them on and about them been on prime time for the next three weeks. - Oh yeah. - And they have showed out, and look, guys, you know, I get it. It's a sign of intelligence, we change your mind because new information is available. So the new information is the Falcons got a damn quarterback and they're damn good football team. - Yeah, I don't like whenever, you know, we're in daily sports. We can only operate off of the current situation. - Yeah. - We don't know tomorrow's news. - No, no. - We don't know tomorrow's we wish. - Yeah. - Tell me. - Oh my God. Draft Kings is happy. We don't have that. - That'd be awesome. - This is close to our eyes and thinking that world. Could you imagine we already know the outcome of the tonight's MLB playoff games? - Well, are you against this player? - Yeah, they're gonna be. - No, they probably don't. - But I agree. (laughing) - Oh, they don't play tonight? - No, they don't. - Okay, what tonight we have? Dodgers, Braves, Brewers, Padres. - Oh. - It'd be so cool to be able to know tomorrow and know who wins this one now that win. You know who I like tonight? Braves, sales on the mind. - Oh, who's he pitching against? - Yamamoto. - Oh, ho, ho. - Oh, Pitcher Showcase tonight, I think is why how would you describe this time? - Yeah, certainly. - Certainly, you would. Yamamoto during the World Series last year was lights out, unbelievable, but sale kind of, he's been doing it, you know, pitching out of the bullpen the other night to seal that series and then he's a gamer. And again, with him, you know, he kind of told us when we talked to him a couple of weeks ago, like, you know, I would assume he is gonna play another season because he's still throwing hard as shit and he's still very good. But like, when you get up and age like that, like you never know how many more moments like this, he's gonna have and, you know, so that should be, I mean, this is, when you think playoff baseball, like this is the matchup we want, the Dodgers Braves one, and Brewer's Padres, that series has been absolutely unbelievable, both games coming down to the bottom half of the last inning. But yeah, I mean, we got no football on tonight, these are two great examples of good playoff baseball. And if we knew tomorrow, we'd be hammering irresponsibly on these games. It would be responsible though, because we know. Because it would be a, but we don't know tomorrow's information. We only know what we have right now. So if a team looks like absolute shite, we have to say his team looks like absolute shite. There has been a growing number of people, oh, don't say nice stuff about us now. Stay on that side. Say, hey, that's not how this works. How about you don't get to decide what we say? How about we just get a chance to talk about what we see and how happy we are that the Atlanta Falcons are very, and I'm not saying it's just Atlanta people telling us, that's across the board and all this point. But like game day, I got to pick games. So I'll pick against a team because I have to pick a game. And all of a sudden, I don't want to hear you. It's like, whoa, I got a bad news for you. I will. Now, there has been teams in the past where I have picked against them every single time for an entire year. It worked out. It worked out for them. They won a national championship. So I mean, Rutgers look good week three. Whoa, Rutgers is a good team. They look good. Joining us now from an attic in Ohio is a man who's probably very excited about how the Atlanta Falcons are playing football right now. He's coached football national champion Super Bowl champion Ryder Cup winner. The all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, AJ Hall. Yeah. Cool. Oh, good haircut, AJ. Good haircut today. Oh, yeah. You want to find the future one you talk to O's or Chris Angel. One of those guys, I'm sure they can tell you. Um, I think O's-- O's is out there still doing it, right? O's would be the one, I guess, right? I think. If Jitsu and Future Predictions, that would be Chris Angel. Yes, Maddie. Yeah, I felt the fans. And, as we're talking about Chris Angel and Las Vegas here real quick, Pivot. Carrot Top. Happy to hear, brother. Yup. Real. Happy to hear, Carrot Top. Love you, buddy. He's been good to us. Yeah, I'm in front of the show. He stopped by the show, brought a thousand props. I don't even know where he's pulling out. I've had different pockets for doing his shit. He knew ball, too. Loved ball, love sports, super great energy. Happy to hear where he is right now, as opposed to where he was a couple weeks ago. We love you, Carrot Top. Did you love what you saw last night with this Atlanta Falcons team? Two headed monster in the back with one of them being maybe the best back and maybe the best football player in the entire league. And then a defense that every time shocking the boys were starting to answer and rally around the emotion and the momentum of the evening down there, continue to put the fire out. Your thoughts on the Atlanta Falcons right now versus maybe a couple weeks ago? I mean, I feel like from start to finish the Atlanta Falcons, just kind of outclassed the Saints. And I saw a headline that said Atlanta Claupper's New Orleans on the road. That's what I don't ever really use the word Claupper, but I feel like it is very, it works when you talk about this game. But like you said, the two headed monster in the back that I mean, Bajan, Bajan, however he wants to be, you know, whatever he wants us to call him. I just don't know, like, I know you mentioned Barry Sanders and all of that. Bajan's vision and his patience is just crazy to me. I don't, like you said, it looks like he's not going full speed, but the dude is so in control. It feels like the game has slowed down in his brain, his just instincts and how he's able to move. It's just, it's next level. It's a little bit of sonar too. Who he knows or without being able to see him and always has like big smile on his face. It feels like he's enjoying the moment and ridiculously confident in what they got going on. Good offense of the line. And we talk about Stephanski. He got this job very quickly. And we, as a program, were very surprised that he just gets hired that quickly after how it all went in Cleveland. He has an offense, a juggernaut appears here for two weeks. Will this slow down once a defense gets a book on him? As they say, AJ, how do you think about that? I mean, it shouldn't, I would imagine every game, every rep that Michael Pentax gets. He feels better and better and more confident in that offense. And I think they have more confidence in what they can actually run. So I think their offense can only get better. And their defense with, with Albrick at the helm is, they look awesome, man. Like not a lot of big, huge names, superstars, maybe nationally, but guys just, just know how to get it done. So they've turned into one of the more entertaining teams actually to watch. What did Troy say about the Atlanta Falcons defense? I think you said, basically, in so many words, view acts like a casual NFL fan. They couldn't name one starter on the Falcons defense. And it's kind of true. Obviously, we know him because we've seen him either in the league or you follow him and watch him in college. But they don't have a lot of headline names. But if you're calling the defense, you got fundamentals. I'm always a proponent of, hey, good players, make good coaches. And in a lot of times, you have to have kind of like the player that changes the math. Like a great pass, rush or a great corner, who can just eliminate this side of the field. But when you got all the 11 and playing on the same page, that's on either side of the ball. The offense, you talk about getting a book on guys. Some of the best offense is the best players. The best quarterbacks kind of ran a lot of the same shit for 15 or 20 years. Like they knew what they were doing. They just were better at executing than the other guys. And if you have a foundation of a run game and then a running back stable like the Falcons have right now, if they can stay healthy, that just makes it so much easier for the quarterback and the offense play called their kind of control and set that tempo of the game. So I mean, I mean, obviously it's early. It's only really a couple games into their season. But I'm excited about the future for sure for the Falcons. - Bigeon Robinson week four. Week four, two T, I'm sorry, Brian and Bigeon Robinson here in week four, two touchdowns, three touchdowns. 145 yards, 19 carries, 14 carries on the other side. I mean, that makes quarterbacks life a lot better. - Yeah. - AJ, that makes quarter. - They'll probably be in a top five for AKU tomorrow. - Oh, no, I would assume. - They held the New Orleans to like 50 yards rushing, too, and I understand they fall behind, they can't run as much. But yeah, they shut the run game down. - What, they have number one rush defense? I think right he's on or two on the tail of the tape yesterday. Yeah, I think they have a great Ross defense here. You're gonna have to hey shock you're gonna have to do this one yourself, buddy. Let's see how you do Chris a lot they had some good. Yes, he did. John had some cuts. He did comeara out of the backfield looked like a one again there for a little bit Yeah, I think you just never really get going in proper spots right before half as they were getting ball the second half 24/7 they drive down score touchdown there 24/14 getting a ball in second half completely a different game Yeah, instead of stop at the 41 they punt it down penum, but like who cares it doesn't matter Doesn't matter at that point and then they get another stop coming out of the second half It's like the land of pockets defense is for real. Let's talk about a couple other things that are for real Two officials have been suspended one of them has been suspended for two games. That's right. This feels like a huge Suspension. Yeah, the two games feels like a lot of games For a ref to be suspended for saying F you F you to a player on camera so the NFL refs association has come out and releases statement and They basically said hey, it's get a little tense out there with some of these interactions So you guys want us to be super duper professional along we talked to the players a little bit as well We want to kind of manage this and handle this I think my takeaway from this all is this provided Roger Adele in the NFL a great opportunity to showcase to players hey Protected shields are real thing. You know, we believe and protect the shield So if you are going to represent our league and you're going to represent the sport Which is what refs are doing when they're on an ISO cam and they're telling the entire world what happened wrong They're representing the sport. They're representing the league. That is what they are as officials They are an official for the league in there So we are going to let the world know and we're going to let the players know for any any future Punishments that we give that we do not take any shit that will make the shield look bad They can grandson on that forever Well, we have a clue that these two refs aren't laughing for the next two weeks. No We have no idea But it gave the NFL a good opportunity to showcase to the players like hey, we're being serious about this whenever we say We respect the shield and we don't want any type of stuff to make us look bad as a whole AJ I think that is what this has provided the NFL and I think it's given them an opportunity to showcase like we really do mean Everything that we seemingly grandstand upon sometimes whenever we're punishing players for stuff I think that's a it's a smart outlook like that is it does make sense the more you think about it But also who got two games who got one game? Do we know what if you guy if you got two games and then the guy who took the bump Yeah, this guy got one one for this. Yeah, I give him credit for hold himself back He thought like I you know sometimes you could hit in your first reaction You know for a quick second you never know and he actually didn't he didn't give credit to look at the look at the Tony's point All right, I just I'm sorry. Well deserved but I was presented. I've watched this closer Yeah, one game that's it's I get it. Well, I think it's because of how instantly Combat if he was that was crazy. Yeah, you know, you're instantly combat if I hear the point in the face is amazing That's my favorite. Yeah, that's not the look I assume that you want your refs to have is your immediate thought is I got to fight this player in the NFL because I got bumped to the ground But he did take a big bump. I mean I got one of four or five yards may have been concussed could have been he could say that I mean We've seen much worse bumps. Yeah, I've agreed, but I think The refs are telling them like hey, your first thought can't be I'm gonna That can't be you know, so I think that's what the NFL saying the ref saying Well, it's my third bump of the day. It wasn't me. I was because you see how hard I hit my head off the dirt We get it on when do we get a somebody that sends us to the blue tent, but the the FU1 getting two games I love that strictly because we were out here going come on let the guy say Go highlight this is talking about this and then make broad kind of pointing at the camera like I think that played a role in that But I even with all that being said I still I was shot that you know two games. Yeah, maybe a fine Something but two and one now I forget who put the graphic It's might put a graphic up yesterday of like the last time a reference suspended me But like 2012 or 13 but I went when Chefty dropped this news. Oh, and it's been yesterday I was shot when even that live on we all kind of had a reaction But um we kind of even took the sides of the refs like oh, yeah You're showing some personalities a lot of shit that are said to refs from players or coaches that we see that Maybe you know the general public don't so I was surprised at the response But yeah, you definitely set a precedent with this for sure, and that's what the ref said in the and their association put out of statement Really these guys are a lot of say whatever they want Whenever they want you want this utmost of perfect because what's gonna happen now? Yeah What's gonna happen now is what happened with Raeble? Yeah, where he says hey, that's an F in terrible F in call And he gets a flag for that. It's like they set a precedent that the reps are not safe now the reps association rightfully so I will say this is what the refs association is supposed to do comes out and says like oh Is this what we're doing now because we'll send you some tape and we're all wiped up So let's go ahead and listen to everything that's said to us by refs or by coaches even B.A He used to chew out the refs in practice He's refs on Thursday and Friday that would come by try to get some extra refs Big 12 sky conference refs that live in the area come get some refs on a fast Friday or on Thursday or whatever the case is They make a bad call Bruce Aaron's killing them on the sideline of practice on a Thursday Period 12 this shows this practice about to be over. We got one play left Nobody cares except for you aren't gonna be the one it's gonna mess this up You're the least talented person on this field. Okay, everybody else out here is professional athletes These people have made to the top of their profession you lucky to be here strictly because you signed up You are not gonna be ruining our practice. That is how Some refs are talked to by some people and it seems like variable is probably a guy talks to refs I talked to refs my entire life every sport I've ever played in Always working refs or letting them know that I thought they were completely wrong in a talented way I think but there was certainly sometimes where it was a little bit of heat I think me and Gene Staretor became friends because of these types of situations that took place out there So I don't like that they're probably gonna be cutting that completely out now I think I think it's part of good help part of the message like by suspending this ref. It's saying hey that we're gonna tighten it up on both sides They're gonna hate players. We understand coaches It gets like it gets heat out there and you say things But we're gonna try to cut it off now because look we're gonna suspend one of our own refs like what can we we could come down on you as a player here in the future Here's the statement from Scott Green the NFL Ref Association executive director NFL officials have a responsibility Conduct themselves professionally on the field in the actions in these incidents fell short of that standard Accountability matters, but that should not result in discipline that is excessive or inconsistent with established precedent Officials are routinely subjected to highly charged interactions and at times verbal abuse from players and coaches Well, that never excuses misconduct by an official. It shouldn't be dismissed as simply a part of the game League expects the highest level of professionalism from its officials and it should demand the same from everyone on the field that line right there Is now going to be the focal point and there's gonna be some people that don't talk to refs some players and coaches that don't talk to refs Just not their thing, but there's gonna be some players. We're about to find out like you said off camera that do talk to refs And we're about to see flag on the field. Yep 15 yard for what he told me I was a blind piece of shit 15 yards First down on a third down or on a fourth down We shouldn't negotiate that though. We shouldn't negotiate if you get a personal file for something you said the ref has to tell everybody Exactly what you said like we need to know how why it crossed the line You've said this a lot we've said this a lot and our negotiations with ESPN actually had to write these things out on What's a gonna get bleeped? What's not gonna get bleeped? What is the line? Like we need to know because that line changes for everybody Gene starrator Pittsburgh Paison Not a bad talker communicator. I think you talk shit to him He's probably gonna bring something back all of a sudden he's established in the line with you Hey, yeah, we ain't doing that some of these refs though aren't big talkers Which I think they should have to be especially if they're a white cap and they say something they get offended immediately It's like now there's gonna be no consistency on what's being said let alone the consistency on the calls This can be tough to officially it's tough, but this is another example of like the NFL just saying you know No group of people. No person's gonna be bigger in the shield You know, I'm sure they don't want the conversation to be around the referees with all these great players He's great coaches great. You know quarterbacks whatever you don't want the conversation on the stripes and you know So much respect to the refs that it's a tough tough job. We see the calls We see everything on TV. We see so much replays They got a call this shit full speed is bang bang so it is a very very you know tough I guess high stress for job, but I mean I guess this is this is part of what come with it But this is a hell of a precedent to set for the strikes for sure as somebody who had front receipts a lot of football games punner The refs man and had a chance to be in the room where it happens You know the day after the game where everybody's grieving and here's the messages We got from the officiating and here's the actual play and oh here's the outcome of this play in what led to after this play It's like the refs very much matter. They are a very important part of the entire job Which is why I don't love that we're just about to take interactions away from players coaches in the refs, but Seems like we're ahead that way and what's in this you think can I drink a cup that isn't see through that? I don't have listed on here because I saw Jonathan Taylor clearly drink tea. Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah, I think he was I was obvious He didn't get fine. Well see he put his pinky up. Do you have to put your pinky up? Yeah, but pink he could be beer-bong It's in London. He was in England. He sat down Chris Cross applesauce - Thank you, bang, we used to call it something back in the day, dad, do that. - So have a guy, let's test it, have a guy do a keg stand, and imagine it's a very keg stand, but having put his pinky up when he's sucking on the nozzle like it's tea. - Okay, so he's just drinking tea with the queen upside-down about doing a handstand. - Yeah, for our tea crags. 'Cause I'm a little bit, we don't know that. We're not angry with barrels, you know? We do know 'cause we dumped them on to the Boston Harbor bitch. - Oh yeah. - And it'll be making 'em. - We can't bring it anymore. - No, Queen's dead. - When you have the count down? - What's that? - She loves horses. - The Queen, the Queen is dead long with the king. I think is what people say now. - How are his fingers doing? - Oh, so bad man. - All right, let's move away from the English royalty. - It looks like he shot rubber bands around his knuckles at all times. - Well, yeah. - That's 'cause. - It is, yeah. - His fingers are trying to get away. And he's got rings on that are just kinda keep him in. - Yeah. - I think he's also thinking about just serving up knuckle sandwiches to his sons. - Every, basically every other day, he's flip-floppin' which one's teeth, he wants to knock out. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Exactly. - Walks into another room. Here's something new. - Oh. - Yep. - Pretty subtle. - It might pop. - Walks into the dining room or whatever. It's such a far walkin', fuckin' castle. All this way. Get in there. All the food's goin', why kids? - Yeah. - Exactly. - He's just every day. Hey, there's another article comin' out about you. - Sir, Erie did another podcast. (buzzer) (buzzer) - Yep. - Yep. - Sir, your other son, he's just, he's runnin' his fuckin' mouth. (buzzer) - His hands are just exploding. - Yeah, it's the updates he gets. - Yeah. Goes into his bedroom, about to go to bed. One last time, poppin' from whoever, the town cryer, I guess, poppin' and let's him know. - Sir, sir, Erie's sex tape just came out. (buzzer) (laughter) - God save the queen. - That's right. - God save the queen. - Yeah. - Make sure you rest in peace. - Daddy did, but he did a couple times that I think there was at least a couple times he saved her. - I'm sure. - In that shell. - Yeah, long run. - I couldn't get past that one queen, that one queen was my queen. Then they dropped in a new queen. - Liz? - That ain't my queen. I can't do it. - You like the original queen and the second queen is who? - No, I think I stuck with the second queen. Was there a third queen? - I think there are three different queens, yeah. - Yeah, I couldn't get to the old one. I tried to watch a show to learn a little about their history. She fucking loved horses. Good God. - How's AJ's Russian queen doing? - Yeah, how is the queen B? That's a good question. We still got the B's right. - I don't think that's right there right now. - Yeah, we're doing great. We're right now trying to consolidate a little bit, try to get to this winter because it's not a huge hive, not a huge colony, but we're making-- - They left. - They left here. - Oh no, they're all here. It gets pretty cold here in Ohio, so we've got to make sure we have enough resources and they got enough nectar and honey to live off of for the winter. So yeah, we're in the process. We're good. - Sounds like a lot of people are choosing and a lot of bees are choosing to not be a part of the hawk. - No one's leaving. I don't know one's leaving. - Oh, they like this. - It's a cup of the winter for bees. Honestly, it is especially a new colony, like mine. - Can you put a dome over it like restaurants do when they put their tables outside? They put the dome over it and you can eat out there? Is that an option? - Eating lamp? - Yeah. - Yeah, but no, bees are pretty unbelievable. Check it out what they do in the winter, how they bowl together and they create their own heat and they sit in there and in the hive. It's pretty legit. - I'm tired of bees, they're everywhere right now. They're on the floor. - You're on the floor. You're on the floor. - We're on a shortage. - I don't care. - Bring it back. - They're not gonna sting you. - Bring it back. - Fucking kill 'em all. - I don't give a shit. - I don't do that, I need the bees. - Jerry Seinfeld made a great movie about why the bees matter. Okay, I suggest you watch it. - I love hunting nachirios, love 'em. And I love Jerry Seinfeld, but I'm done with it. - All that eye will sweet corn you always brag about without bees, it's all dead. - Exactly. - Bunch other insects who farmer do whatever they need to. - Those other insects, they suck. - Bees do do. - I agree, I think all insects suck, but we need a couple of 'em. - Ladybugs, they suck. - Ladybugs are cool. - No. - There you go. - What? - They're cool. - Let me take that back. - Asian beetles stink. Ladybugs. - They actually stink. - Yes they do, I'm okay with those. Stinkbugs. - Stink. - Stink. - Stink. - And just fuck. - Liningbugs. - Liningbugs. - Liningbugs are cool. - I like Hillsborough. - They're baseball bats at night. - Yeah. - It's a nice rack, that's really fun. - And the glow sticks on to the bat. - Yes. - Lost the best. - Bees did, Thomas. - The tank engine? - Yeah. - Canter Hunter. - I might, I might. - My girl see, you're coming to my side. - You guys can't be wishing the death of me. - This fall for being around bees when he's having allergic, man. Let's get rid of this. - Butterflies. - Hey, I just got a little heads up for you. Guys, maybe a little happiness. Commercial honey bee colonies face severe shortages right now. - Oh no. - It's too bad. - That's not good. The story of average losses of up to 62% in recent seasons according to data from the honey bee health coalition. Now, the reason, tie, not just your hate in your negativity. It's actually parasites and pests, nutritional stress as well, chemical exposure, and then climate and weather also a problem for some of these bees. You know, so maybe you guys will get your wish of having no flowers. You don't want flowers in the world. What are we talking about? For my understanding. - I don't like flowers, but if I'd never saw flower again, I don't know if I'd really feel either way about it, you know. - Have you ever seen somebody smiling in a milled desert for a long time without seeing green? - No, I haven't. - So you need a flower in your life? - You don't want to see flowers? - No, I'm saying like I like flowers, but like if, if let's say next spring, like, I mean, are you gardening? - No, I just like looking at flowers. - Exactly. - Me too, but guess what? You go to the last time you see the flower. Go to your local flower realm. Someone else will do it. - Someone else will do it. - It's all on this morning. - There's a frost, where you ain't seeing no flowers right now. - Okay. You are? - It makes e-raises a good point. - When did the HBHC come out with that report though? Are they getting better? - Well, the Honey Bee Health Coalition actually-- - David Burns is doing great work behind all of this. We're gonna do it. Trust him, we're coming back. - Thank you. - That's tracking the bees, man. We need them. You know, matter of how much everybody hates-- - No more bees from Russia, AJ, all right? - Yeah. - No more anything from Russia. - Gotta keep it, yeah, yeah. - Correct. - Don't care on this situation, don't. Gotta have a queen. - Is there a microphone on all these bees that you're bringing into America? - You know? - They spies, that would be pretty impressive if it was, like, what if it's a little, it's a drone Russian bee that actually lays real eggs that by other bees take care of them, fertilize boom, and they're hatching all spy Russian bees? - That's what we're saying. - Oh, I wouldn't be. - You were all in that dice, bro. - I never thought of it. Didn't think about that till right now. I gotta get back it. I'll get out there today and check. - Yeah, go manage your communist bees, come back. - I got some bug finders, you know, that find the hidden microphones and cameras except I'll take it out there. I'll sweep it and let you know. - Yeah, but modern communist bee espionage is gonna be tough just this nor, you know, you're gonna have to, you brought them in there. It's over for my understanding. - No, no, no, I'll get to the bottom of it. - Those little eggs you're talking about, little baby cameras. Holy shit. - You got honeypotted, literally. - Wow, you know, like Trojan horse, it's actually a bee. Oh my God, let's pivot away from this necks. - It gave a great idea to some foreign country, unfortunately. - They already had it. - They did it. - No, they didn't. - They're right in the middle of Hawkeye right now. - They dropped that. - They dropped that. - They dropped that. - All right, let's give away from giving other places ideas, especially if you can just find somebody in the middle of America, they'll be like, "I love one of these communists, my bees." You know, I just, I need it in there, which we have, I guess. So I don't think any other countries will have that out there. But I appreciate you getting us honey. Good for allergies. - Very good. - Good for everything. - You know what else is good for allergies? - Uh, zirtec and fucking tails. - All right, yeah. Let's move off of the bee subject and let's move to college football. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who hosts college game day, both football and basketball. He has an AP vote for college football and a ranking process. And for us every single week he stops by and delivers his Reese's Pieces from the weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, Reese David. - Yeah, Reese. - Reese, are you had to hear that entire bee conversation? Do you have a hard lean either way on the bees? - I don't love bees because they can be annoying, but I love honey. I love raw honey, manuka honey, a shoe honey comb. I would love for AJ to send me a jar of his honey. - Oh, it's honey, it's honey, you want something? - I don't know what happens, AJ. - We harbor some, we harbor some of the spring, I'll get your bottle. - I would love that. I just bought something yesterday. I make a snack sometimes. I take peanut butter, honey, and raw oatmeal, mix it up, take my cookies, it's sort of good for you. - Do you bake it or is it just dry out? - No, just eat it right then. - Oh, Reese, right then. - And then do you drink it too for that buttery voice of yours that you have? - I do, yeah. - The manuka honey is good for that. Yeah, I'll put it in the tea. Sometimes I'll just have a big spoon of it. - Yeah, you're right. - I love honey. - I love honey. - Are you doing that on the set of games? Like have I missed you? - No. - No, no, no, usually I used to do that. And either in the mornings or when I'm at home or something like that, I'll get a spoon of honey. - Private time. - Okay, so you're bong and honey. I didn't know that. So you want to get rid of this guy's pre-every single day? - He just rode down Manuka, so. - I did, I just rode down Manuka honey. I don't know if I've ever. - No, no, I'm good at all that stuff. I would like all the bees that are in my backyard, currently, get the hell out and never come back. - Can't we have like a bee farm? Like there is for chickens and stuff like that, We mass produce these things. It's kind of what AJ is doing right now - I have commercial operations. - I forget about the bees, I love the bees. Not everybody in here loves the bees. We're getting into Manuka, honey. I cannot wait to see how that changes our lives for the better. Obviously works for you. Reese, you've been around college football forever, college sports forever. This college football season has felt special and very unpredictable. Can you give us your Reese's pieces from the weekend that maybe people need to either think more about or your big takeaway from what we just saw? - A big takeaway I had guys was really obvious. There were times on that sideline watching Ohio State and Iowa on Saturday that I thought Ty Schmitz team I was like, well that's a turnover. And Jeremiah Smith just jumped in a couple of times, took the ball away and made unbelievable plays and catches. He said after the game he's the best player in college football and I think he's right. You start looking at the numbers and compare it, say, to Davante Smith's high trophy winning season. And these back-to-back games that Jeremiah Smith has put together double-digit catches over 200 yards. Davante Smith did that three times twice before the Highestman vote came and then had a long stretch of games where he was getting the ball no matter what. That was Steve Sarkeesian running that offense. Arthur Smith is doing the same thing. Arthur Smith is basically saying, I dare you to stop me from, and Julian say, and from getting the ball to Jeremiah Smith. He's such a difference maker. I try to think of guys in my career, which I'm getting old with watching some of the greatest receivers in this era. I've always said the two best seasons I've ever seen were Davante Smith and Larry Fitzgerald. I thought Larry Fitzgerald deserved the highest, his final year at Pittsburgh. That and maybe Randy Moss. And I think Jeremiah Smith is right there with all of them. He's just been unbelievable. And I think I left Kenic Stadium Saturday afternoon saying, I'm seeing something special here. You always knew he was good, but you're seeing something special with him. I think. We knew there was no, I mean, we loved Iowa. Then we all we loved it. I love it. Cannot wait to get back. I think we are going to be back in the spring a couple different times because of relationships that we have over there. Had a blast. We knew there was no chance that we're going to lose two games in the first five weeks, right? We all knew that there was no chance of that happening. That early loss to Texas in the fourth quarter, kind of a collapse. Perfect wake up call. Maybe for Ryan Dan is an entire team. I can think, AJ, do you view it the same way over there in Columbus? Is that how the Buckeye fans are viewing it? Or do they still think this team could collapse late at any time like they did against Texas? No, I think you have to take it as a positive. Like, yeah, it's not a season hinder now, which is, which helps. But it can definitely be a wake up call. I think you refocus the team. I'm impressed by Arty Smith because his offenses have not been like the most explosive or electrifying in the NFL. Then you take over the keys of this particular offense and you pick up right where you left off and might win a Heisman for a wide receiver. That'd be a very big change to the Arty Smith offense and play calling narrative. You know what Arty Smith is good at is when he has an absolute freakishoid, Derek Henry, Jeremiah Smith. He knows to feed them. And that's, and that's a really good quality to have as an offensive coordinator. Yeah, because, you know, sometimes you get worried about everybody else's feelings and how it all goes, especially in this NIO era. I like that everybody's like, no, yeah, yeah, this is kind of what this is going to be. Yeah, man, you look at, you look at number four. And all 21 other players, yeah, you know that that's, that's the one that ball's probably going to whether we got two or three guys on him and Teresa's point. Same way, I'm like, oh, yeah, Phil Parker, he doubted up. Once his ball goes in here, they're in great position. Nope, for just makes a play like his combination of like size, speed, quickness, and then the ability to make a catch at the point of attack unbelievable. Has it been our three years? This is going to be three years of stash. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so abnormal for a guy of his talent to be at one school for three years to rack up all the records that he's about to have. I like the way they pre-wrapped the balls before taping the balls to let him know what records they were. He's going to own them all at a place that knows he's known for a lot, a lot of great wide receivers. Reese, there's another place that's known for a lot of incredible football players. And they look real yet again. Man, I thought Miami separated itself on Saturday night, not that Clemson's great, but you know, Clemson was trying to maybe make a stand, make a last stand for the season. And you, another great receiver, Malachite Tony, just had by his standards an average night. And still, Darian, Mensa, Cooper, Barcai, the Miami defense, they look like another team that could go back to the national championship game and win it on. As good as Carson Beck was at times, it certainly seems up to this point in the season that Mensa has elevated the quarterback position. A lot of people worried about their offensive line. I know in talking to Christopher all down there in the off season, not as experienced, but he loved the talent that they have there. That seems to be coming to fruition. I think they averaged over five yards of carry against Clemson on Saturday night. I think Miami separated itself a little bit as well. And another team that I won't say separated themselves, but I don't know that I've enjoyed watching anything this season as much as I enjoyed Northwestern and what Chip Kelly did going old school wing T out there and just putting Penn State's linebackers in a blender. Now, because I'm a nerd and because I try to learn, and I'm not the facetious of being serious, I try to learn so that I can understand a little better the way you guys talk ball. I got in a rabbit hole last night of old wing T stuff and watching people who had broken down all of the things that Chip had done against Penn State and how it just be thought of Penn State's defense with influence, trap plays and plays that looked like draws and basically, who holds always you to say, if you can't block them, read them. Well, in some cases Northwestern didn't block Penn State guys because they're like, yeah, he'll follow this orbit motion and he would run him right out of the play. And it was a thing of beauty. And these guys ought to be six and one. By the time they play Oregon and about that time we'll find out just how good they are. But it's been, it's been really impressive. I mean, they hung with Indiana and everybody said, what's wrong with Indiana? The better question might be what's right with Northwestern. Right now, it's a big investment. Big investors, raised to a brand new stadium. And if they're invested in a stadium, I assume they would also like to invest in a team that is playing in that stadium. Stadium looks beautiful. Yeah, unbelievable, awesome. It looks awesome. Especially for a place that we wouldn't expect to be that invested in football. I liked that they're choosing to do that. And that adds to the depth of the big 10, AJ, if Northwestern becomes a team, nobody, that's kind of the thought. Whenever the new teams were added to the big 10, it's like, well, how's Oregon or USC or UCLA going to do in November against Northwestern or in December against Northwestern at a noon kickoff game, which is actually a 9am kickoff game. And it's 24 degrees and there's 14 people at the game. What the hell is USC going to do then? Well, history has told us that those schools traveling that many time zones have done terribly. But now if Northwestern becomes a legit opponent, the big 10 only gets deeper and deeper, AJ. And I think that's happening with the amount of money and investment from the alumni of these places. Yeah, I think it's a great thing. Another team that's playing well, Indiana is traveling to Nebraska. What do you think that that game looks like? Obviously, Nebraska amount of rules feel very good about where that Indiana just continues to roll? Yeah, I really, I like Indiana a lot in this game. And I am impressed with Nebraska has had a few games this year in which it's kind of stumbled out of the gate and then they've shown the ability to turn it on and kind of pull away at the end overmatched opponents for sure. But for as rich as their history is, this is going to be the first time that two teams have met in Lincoln with records of better than 4 and 0. Undefeated records better than 4 and 0. Since they had a number one versus number two matchup against Oklahoma 25 years ago. So this is sort of a landmark opportunity for Nebraska to show that they even after the loss of Dylan Raola after the Matt Rule era hasn't really started as quickly as many of us, myself included, anticipated. This is a chance for them to prove that they are back on the road to being competitive at an elite level. Because Indiana, even if Indiana is not quite yet what it was a year ago, they're still really, really good. And it's a great measuring stick opportunity for Nebraska. - Okay, let's go down to the SEC, huge one. That ain't Tuscaloosa. Georgia, Bama, the Sabin doc is premiering on Thursday. It is going to be a show down there. You're an alum of Alabama. What are you expecting from young Keel and Russell taking on, you know, maybe Kirby's best team in a few years, but also maybe best team in country nobody's talking about in the Georgia Bulldogs. - Georgia has really not played anybody up to this point. Doesn't take away from the fact that I think they're terrific. They might be the most complete team around, but, you know, Oklahoma's sort of half a team, you're challenged when you play Oklahoma's defense, but not so much with their offense. This will be a big test for Georgia, big test for Gunner Stockton. Georgia is going to have to make some explosive plays. Alabama's defense has shown the tendency for-- they'll make a big play for somebody, either for themselves or they'll give up one. You know, the old saying is somebody's band's going to play, you know, after that, but there are a lot of difference makers on the Alabama defense, but at the same time, they've given up a ton of big plays. You kind of feel like that there will be times that Georgia will make Keel and Russell look young. That's just sort of the part of the maturation process for a quarterback that seems to me. So can Gunner Stockton make those big plays and really kind of put a little more heat on Keelon Russell to be able to answer? Keelon Russell's got an uncommon polish. I mean, Camario Taylor's a terrific quarterback prospect. I haven't cooled on him a bit despite what happened in Starkville on Saturday, but Keelon Russell's different. He's got a lot of physical guests, but there's a polish to him that is uncommon, but he hasn't seen anything like he's going to see Saturday night from the Georgia defense, and we'll we'll see how he reacts. Can you tell me a little bit about the Alabama fan base? You know, game days have been there a lot. Obviously I've had the opportunity to be down there for a few game days. There are some locations where game day travels to on a regular basis, where, you know, there's a chance that the lustre of game day being there kind of wears off. Alabama's always been a good scene, but with this young quarterback and seemingly having a couple years with him now, how does the Alabama fan base feel at this point, especially behind the board, where there was a lot of questions going on this year with how last year ended? I think, I think they're in the process of fully winning over the skeptics. Now, most every fan base has an edge that is never going, edges that will never be satisfied unless it win every game and cover every spread. You know, you guys know as a way they are, and that's okay because that's what makes it great. That's why they care so much. I think most of the rational, reasonable Alabama fans, and they actually contrary to popular belief, they actually have some of those. I think they knew that the boards are good coach, and they've been really excited about Keel and Russell for a couple of years. And have him sort of live up to the billing up to this point in the season. I think it's created some energy in the fan base. As it pertains to game day, they've shown up, but there is, you know, there is an expectation from an Alabama crowd that they're going to win. So maybe some of that euphoric feeling of the show returning that we experienced last week at Iowa is a little bit harder to find in Tuscaloosa. Yeah, some of these places have had a lot of game days. The teams have been big, they've hosted a lot of big games. It's going to be great to get to Tuscaloosa with Sabin yet again, and also with the premiere of his doc with the world learning a lot about what he did at Alabama. I think what he did for Alabama, the city of Tuscaloosa as a whole, should be a special weekend, very, very lucky and thankful to be a part of it. Now, speaking about being lucky and thankful to be a part of something, Reese Davis, you have an AP vote, and that means you have to rank these teams. Every week he has to put pen to paper. How many voters are there in the AP for college football? I think 65, 65 or 68 of memories are, I think 65. Okay, so all 65 of you put together your top 25, then it's all pieced together, and then points are given, and then that's how the official AP top 25 ranking goes. That's it. You've got a point, you know, an inverse number of points for teams that are ranked top to bottom. Oh, 25 points for number one. Yeah. Twenty-four points for number two. Twenty-three points for number three. Is that right? Is that right? Yes. Then they add up that up to points, and that's how they sort it out. Okay. Do you put out your AP poll every single week or no? It ends up getting put out on some of these websites. There's one called college poll tracker, I think, or something like that. So everybody's votes out, and I don't know if this is available to the public or not, but where I log into vote, I can go and see mine and see how everybody else has voted once the voting is closed. You sent us your vote. Do you mind if we make that public? No, I don't mind. Boom! Here it is. It's not 25, happy you said that we could do that. A little transparency here from one of the AP voters for college football. Reese, I know it's an impossible task to try to get this right. Can you tell us a little bit about peace in this week's together? And how many people you think immediately are piecing you apart because of what you did here? Pretty much all of them because, Pat, I think I shared this with you yesterday. When I looked at what I was about to send in, and looked at my computer screen, and I was like, well, I hate that, and I hate that. And I can understand while somebody's going to be mad about that. And I do it because I think it's a good exercise for me for the show. I think it kind of gives you a broad picture, makes you consider a lot of things. I revise it a bunch of times. I'm scared to death every week that I've, you know, in the process of physically moving teams around, that I accidentally act somebody out. You know, all of that kind of thing that you were, you're going to get killed about. But the thing that was the hardest for me this week were all of the one-loss SEC teams. Because as I look at this right here, Ole Miss beat LSU, right? But several spots behind Ole Miss, Florida, killed Ole Miss. And, you know, I have Florida behind Missouri because Missouri killed Florida and Mississippi State beat Missouri. If you're going to try to at least in this early part of the season, make head-to-head matter more than anything else, not meaning everything matter more, you try to stack them up. But in this case, it was sort of impossible to stack all of those teams up, giving proper respect to the head-to-head ranking. So there's a mess. I know a lot of people are going to look at this and go, what an idiot. And they won't be wrong. Because there are a lot of things to pick apart about what I ended up having to turn it. Well, what is that? The transitive property that you end up having to use A, B, then automatically C. But if you do that, then you're getting rid of actual head-to-head outcomes that have just taken place within the last few weeks. Oh, this guy doesn't, why do he games even play that asshole? Yeah, he doesn't even watch it. Yeah, it is a tough task. This is why I wanted to show it, by the way, because we do judge the top 25s we all do. I don't know what they're talking about. And then Reese was explaining the process yesterday to me for the first time. And I'm like, that would be a difficult little thing to do, especially if you throw yourself in the fire. On the note, can we make yours public? Yeah, now. And he said, yes, I thank you for doing that. Look at 17, 18, 19 up there. I believe it's Oklahoma State, Oregon, USC. They all, all three of those played each other. But Oklahoma State, you know, has a loss to Tulsa in week one. How much do you factor that in? Like, it's tough. It's a tough little gig up. Impossible. And that's a really interesting point, too, because as we go along this season, and it'll open you up to more criticism, as we get a little deeper in the season, I'm going to be less bound by the fact that Oklahoma State beat Oregon. Now, if they keep playing, I may give a little bit more weight to the fact that they have a bad loss, so that Oregon maybe just had a bad day. That's why they call it up an upset. So you can't just lock in on it forever. And it was one of the reasons that last year, I didn't have any problem at all with someone who would have had Notre Dame ranked ahead of Miami. It happened early in the season. It was a close game team's change. And I think, at some point, you reach a point in the season where you have to say, I want to respect what happened on the field for sure. It's an important thing, but you also have to say, take other factors into consideration. Are they better now? Have they played her tougher schedule? They've been challenged more. All of these things that you have to evaluate. Yeah, Reese, heavy is the head, brother. That's why we don't have a vote. Now, let's act like this is the actual rankings of these college football teams. D-but has a follow-up. Yeah, Reese, I respect the hell out of you. I was with you. With everything except that hogwash about breaking Notre Dame ahead of Miami, but with that being said, I actually every week, your number one team, you obviously just showed us that and talked about your process. If you pop that poll back up, is there any team from the bottom three rows that you would not be surprised at all if they kind of jump up until those top two rows in the next few weeks? Florida. I know Florida had a terrible day against Missouri. It just opened up a can on their rear end for sure, but I still really think that Florida's running game will travel. So they're one and obviously I would say Oregon too. If Oregon has gotten right, then they've got as much talent as anybody and they could easily wind up on those first couple rows and they have opportunities. They've got a UCLA who I strongly considered ranking this week and didn't, they've got UCLA coming up, got a game with Ohio State. You know, they've got a lot of opportunities to be able to prove that there is talented as we all thought they were in the beginning. No pit. No. I know. No, no, no. No, no. It's coming out. And we're having them on the show Saturday, you think you're going to notice. Better, I sold the stock on them last week and day after they win that huge game, you don't even put them in your AP top two. He was talking directly to you, hey, to the rinkers and to the voters, how about a little respect here? And you said, I hear you, dude. I hear you. Okay. There's a lot of other teams out here. What was it about it? No can do. A couple, the first thing to answer directly, the biggest reason that I had them in at first and then opted to, I think what was constant in their spot is they lost their quarterback. So I just want to see what they are now without Heinsel. You know, Gerner came in and did a good job off the bench. How will that sustain? But I think the truth of the matter is, at least to me, how I evaluate this. You could take teams probably starting around number 20 and get down to about 35. And there's not really a lot of difference. You know, there's, there are a lot of teams. You know, Nebraska's not in there. I mentioned UCLA. Pittsburgh certainly has a case. There are a number of other teams that you could put in there and say, yeah, that's a reasonable choice to make. So I don't think there's a lot of difference. But you have to stack them up in some order and you have a cutoff point. So, you know, you got to make some kind of choice. I see some differences in your AP top 25 vote and ladies and gentlemen. Paul. It sits at top, tones, above average pole this week. Now we have to describe what an above average pole is, especially in the college football world. It's not from, you know, 30,000 feet. That would just be like an average pole. - Sure, yeah. - It's not boots on the ground, deep elite pole. It's just an above average pole. We got a little bit more information than most. We pay attention a little bit more. We're not super deep in there. - No. - But we're certainly above averagely deep in there. And that's what tones pole is all about. Who? Sorry, I kind of grew up. - In a lot of it's eye tests. When you look at that pole, you know if it's a good pole. - Who sits at top, you're above average pole this week, tone? - I test this week and what happened this weekend and just kind of, you know, who won the weekend? It was your high-estate buck, guys. - Congrats. - Yeah. - Wow, what's that in the back there? - No, that's the buck, I grew up and that's actually AJ Hawks tree, they dedicate trees to all the all Americans and that's exactly what AJ's tree looks like. So that's kind of what we decided to go with there. There's a couple other options we decided we could have gone with on the buck eye campus, but this is what we decided on. - Yeah, I didn't see big knot. Big knot certainly looking for herbie from my understanding. A high-estate buck eye sit atop your above average pole. Then Georgia and Bama heading into a massive weekend. So they are two and three on you down there at the bottom, right at the bottom of the pole. - Yeah, right there. - You kind of fighting over who's gonna sit atop tones above average pole next week. You could argue. - There's a good chance of winner of that one is the top of the pole next week. - Oh, so you're kind of giving away what you're gonna be looking at? - Maybe, I mean, there's a lot of big games this weekend. - So your pole is saying what's tickling my fancy is whenever a big-time school beats another big-time school, they got an opportunity to get right to the top of this pole. - Yeah, you're reading my pole pretty well, sir. That is what it is and then, you know, like I said, the eye test and kind of going into a tough environment and what you do there. You know, I respect Reese having Texas there at number one because of what they have accomplished and who they've beaten so far this season. They beat Ohio State this season in their own house. By a point, there's not eye testing it for me right now. We'll see what happens to that team as thank you, C. Reese, thank you and we'll-- - Yeah, but Reese has an AP voter. - Yeah, he has to. - Yes, you have to. - Has to do that. He knows that, though, because he's got respect for the game, respect for the position. And I think a little bit of respect for tones above average pole, too, Reese. I do, I do like it a lot. In fact, what Tone said about his above average pole, my arguably below average pole might very well, I've heard that George and Alabama game at the top, depending on how they looking out there. - Well, everybody got you in an A on top of their pole potentially here in the next couple of days. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. It's Reese David. - It's a baby Reese. - Reese's phenomenal. AJ, good, look at you. That tree looks exactly like you. - Brutus, Brutus did that too with some shears. - Yeah, always trim your bush. - Trims you up. He does. Rock eyes, trimming the bush at a tones above average pole and big day with big shrugs, breaking down the big plays next. - Ooh, will they give me the lay of game zero? - Yes, yeah, they will. - Yeah, you guys do. - You're good. - Yeah. - I feel pretty good about it. - Why was D-But laughing in the middle of that? - I don't know. - Sorry, guys, I gotta be professional. - I think there's something about a deep pole. - Oh, yeah, yeah. It spelled P-O-L-L, D-Butt. - Yeah. - It's a deep pole for the deep holes. (laughing) - It's a good pole. - Go and deep down there, you know. How is big day with big shrugs? We don't get to watch it. - It's all little yesterday. - Smidge. - I think today's the day where rap goes on and looks really cool casually, if it's Tuesday. - Oh, they had jacket with shirts, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It looks like a jacket. - Layers, it was cool. - Jack can get on the same page. Shrugs rap before you. We never get to see your show, but we are happy for it. - Oh, baby, Shrugs. - It is a big day with big shrugs, breaking down all of the big plays. (whooshing) (whooshing) - MLB has two games tonight that certainly matter. We wish we could see the future. Did you hear about that earlier, AJ? We were hoping that we were in the future. - Yeah, well, I think they're still hope. - Is there, for a long time, it feels like time travel has been something that has been talked about, fantasized about. Would now be the time in which we would be able to figure it out more so than ever, and have we? - Oh. - I mean. - It depends on what. - Just because you haven't seen someone do it, doesn't mean that you can't figure it out. - Oh, you're quoting the Santa Claus. I like that. - I was just watching in-game. - They figured it out. - Yes, they did. - What did, Avengers? - Gamera games. - Yeah. - I saw anything, Mackie. - Yeah. - Last night. - Captain America. - Captain America? - Juvenile. - Uh-huh. - Great performance last night. I wish it was a little bit longer, but great performance. - Oh, they only had six men scared by you. - Sure. - Slow. - Quick transition from Kirk Franklin. - That's hard. - The juvenile slow motion and trombone shorty going crazy and Eric Church coming out there. It was, it was a show. How about how big the stage was? - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Big stage. It felt like a big night. Man, how about your big strikes breaking all that? - Oh, what about it? - Sure. - We did see the future here yesterday, though, with the, I mean, it worked out for the Saints, but Camara getting in the paint twice. We talked about that. - It felt good about that. - It felt really good about that. - It talked about that throwing warm-ups when he was standing in front of me. I forget how powerful these guys are. Camara's legs are gigantic. We were standing right behind him. I'm like, complete, forget about those. And he's number one on 20-year anniversary night again. Camara's wanted to be there. Felik, he was inevitable. Felik, Camara was inevitable yesterday. Not as inevitable as Beeshawn. Ambrain. The Robinson's quite a little doughnut, though. - Yeah. - That was fun. Week four of the NFL season provided a lot of magic. - Feet. - A lot of magic. College football did as well. - Yeah. - That floored a lot of Missouri's crazy, AJ. - Actually crazy, just complete blowout. Yeah, I mean, there's anomalies. Things happen, I guess. But yeah, we'll see how they rebound. - We will see how they rebound. - If you had a huge weekend, and then you have to go on the road, you're just gonna lose. That's kind of how the story of the season happened, you know, with Ole Miss after LSU going to Florida. Florida does it with Mizzou, which is kind of how things are gonna go. - Why is that happen, AJ? We've been trying to figure that out since the beginning of time. I think you know. - Human nature, yeah. Right? That's what you're fighting against in football at all times. Is what Nick Sabin is always fighting against, like, taking a breath, taking your foot off the gas, whatever it may be. And I think it's, you know, you can't even start to blame coaches, players. Just think of the atmosphere you come from. You have this giant, huge, emotional situation. And then, I don't know. You fall behind early in a game like this, and it gets, you know, hopefully your team sticks together and it doesn't, doesn't pull you apart. Hopefully it brings you together. - Signati, having an undefeated team. - Crazy. - Yeah. - Gotta get lucky with injuries, first of all. - Yep. - And you're very lucky. There's a couple plays that have to go your way. You think back to Penn State last year. I will have a couple of those. They go their way. - Oregon way. Oregon had, yeah, out in Oregon? No. - Yeah, when they played at Oregon, none of the pick six. - Oh, yeah, that was earlier in the year. - Yeah. - Yeah, they need it. Oregon, Penn State, Iowa. - Yeah, yes, those are kind of the three. - Yep. - And then Ohio State cracks Fernandez Rift's first play. Kaden Curry, back in town, playing for the coach now. Could be a three and one football team. They're two and two, it took a choose. They're over time. They're always saying cheese for the best team in football. - It could be. - Like they could of it. - It could be four, no. - Yeah. - No, that first week. - They didn't lose to me. - Oh, yeah, they got killed. - Yeah, we're never going to be Baltimore there. We're never going to be Baltimore that week. Well, and that was pretty evident, maybe from warmups. That felt pretty evident. But cheese, over time, they'll wake up call because it's freaking hard ass leak. - Yeah, I'm right. - Which leak you feel like you got a better feel on right now. College football or the NFL, we think, okay, I got these teams. I got these coaches. I got them figured. - I know who's who right now. - Neither. - I got no. I got no cool. I felt pretty good about Atlanta winning last night. But thought atmosphere would overcome. - College feels more obvious. Like the Ole Miss going into Florida after LSU where everyone's on, you know, Ole Miss is unbelievable. But Florida's favored by three points. Like that feels obvious where it's like you should be taking Ole Miss. Same thing with our Earth Florida, excuse me. Same thing with Missouri Florida. It's like when those lines come out as far as Vegas goes and they just don't feel right based on what you just saw a week before, like that doesn't make any sense. Whereas like in the NFL, it's like if your team looks like shit next week, you should bet on 'em because they probably are going to look great. - Yeah, I guess in the NFL, the parody of the talent, if they have bad week, they get embarrassed. They're probably going to play good the next week. I guess the youngness of the college teams, even though they still have money as teenagers, and being able to bounce back, is not as likely a guest in this entire. But there's going to be a team that just gets hot and just pounds everybody, it's the greatest sport of all time. - Yeah. - It is the greatest. Watch this week now because obviously it's a week or move because I don't know if they did a bi-week or not. But Texas coming off the big win at Tennessee, everyone's high on Texas, everyone is very, very, very down on Oklahoma and then they just got boat race by Georgia in their last game. Wouldn't be, I don't think it'd be shocking if Oklahoma won this one. - Over under 39 and a half. - Have a re-game. - Yes. - Anything you don't always have. - And like even to Tomas Point about, you know, Georgia's beat the shadow of him and everyone's low on Oklahoma. Oklahoma was about to score touchdown in your time, the time of the game up, and then Matilda on the ball on the throw, fumbles, and Chris Cole picks it up and goes 90 yards for touchdown. - I think we, oh, rap does have a really cool jack in it. - No, it hurts. He looks really cool. When we're at that desk making picks and it gets down to Herb Street and he goes, this one feels obvious and he kind of looks at all of us as if we were idiots, but he like actually trust it. Like him picking Minnesota of Michigan, he like trust it. Like, ah, for me, it's hard for me to just trust it at this stage. When Herbie starts talking in guarantees, we'll be on a production meeting on like Monday. And he'll be like, anybody that thinks blank, thing that I certainly thought. (laughing) He's certainly about, just really doesn't understand the situation that is kind of cooking down there. It's because he's been there for so long. So every once in a while, he'll have like these fuels of like guarantees, and he either drops him on like Monday in the production call, or he'll do it at the desk, and I'll look over, and he says it, and I think to myself, like, hey, couldn't you have-- - Set you up before-- - Yeah, like five minutes ago, maybe told me that before we do this entire thing, but he hasn't been right every time. - No, I was, he was, and I didn't understand it, and I had no gums to understand it. He was talking very highly of Clemson on Saturday. - Yeah, they'd be doing a lot. - They always do. - They'd be doing a lot. - Why do you think so long Clemson's water for years? - I mean, Gabbo for a long, long time was one of the most dominant coaches in operation. - People forget what the run Clemson had. - Yeah, so it was like 10 years ago. - Well, it has been a while. At least five, since I've been a part of game, I've not seen a single good, you know, Clemson team. Just like Lincoln, rather, with USC, they all have very high expectations for him 'cause of what he was done in the past. So, you gotta remember all the game day people been there for like 20, 30 years. So, they've been around a long time. So, Clemson had a long run. There was a lot of really good dabbo for a lot of those people in there. Dabbo is a very good to the people. Like very nice guy, very nice guy. - One natty in '19. - Yeah, so I think there's a lot of, like, natural support of him in that room. So they talk him up a lot, but I don't really, I have not seen it, and I don't really talk to him. - No, he was there great forever. - I like him as a person, as a coach. I appreciate the way he operates. But anytime I have spoke about college football in a big way, which I'm lucky to do, I haven't seen him do good. And then I even, so I'm picking Lincoln Raleigh for two weeks in a row here. Think about me saying that versus how they view Lincoln Raleigh. They view Lincoln Raleigh as a guy that could have went through the Dallas Cowboys, could have been coached by any of these teams. But obviously, we're seeing what we're seeing with USC. So, just generations, I think, just different heirs, and how it all goes. But it does feel like Clemson. - They don't have the guys they used to. - I mean, if they didn't beat North Carolina after that weather delay, it would be even worse. Like, you'd almost would wonder if he's fired. - The thing I don't, he won't be. It's like 57 million or so. I forget the numbers, there's about it. - Oh yeah, that is. - How do you get back on track though? How do you get back there? That's the thing, when you fall out of that like top, you know, the top four or five teams, I don't know how many years it takes, but you gotta find a way to get those big time recruits back. - You gotta figure something out. - Yeah, and who are you gonna hire after Davo for everything he's done for Clemson? There's a lot of those, - He is Clemson. - Like he is Clemson. - For sure. - Yeah, exactly. But it hasn't looked good for five years. Like, it hasn't looked good. - Need a massive influx of cash so you can just go out and get a bunch of really, really good players. And I know they already have recruiting wise, but like, that's, we've seen it. That's kind of what it takes. If someone comes in and you have a huge donation, like, you can turn things around pretty quickly. It is a $57 million dollar buyout right there. - There you go. - People pretty good about that. I don't think a lot of people will think about the amount of numbers that are kind of floating through all of our heads for everybody's contract and how much everybody's worth all the time. The $57 million, I think, is because I go to Pete Thammell. You know, I go to Pete. I go, so Davo's just there forever, like, how does this work? And he goes, yeah, I think he is. I think he's warranted at least a little bit of a runway over there for what he has done. And I'll show $57 million, I believe, right now. I'll show who has the cash for that. - I think it's got a big one too. - That's 'cause who they were. - Yeah, what is it after? - What is it postseason? What do you think it drops off a club for now? - And then what does Davo do, like, what does Davo do after he's professional golfer, right? He's making $57 million. - Preacher. - Maybe. - I don't know if I've ever seen Davo talk word golf. - Davo, I'm saying you make $57 million. Okay, he's a professional. - He go be a TV guy. Go be a TV guy. He's a great, great, great on TV. - Definitely. - He'd be great on TV. - And what? - This is the way we're talking. - I think so. - Yeah. - Come on TV. - Tried TV. - I won this. - Did that both. - So I have started to, 'cause there's people that hate my and our guts for the way we do things. But there's some genres of TV that I fucking hate, like I think is, like, I would be embarrassed to put that on TV. But there's people that absolutely love that, absolutely hate us, you know? So I just call that Tried TV, like traditional TV stuff. You know, like, I kind of go in that avenue. Like, that would be perfect for Tried TV. Like, he's gonna say everything you want him to say. He's gonna have great energy. He's gonna have the answer. It's resume's legit. He's gonna be upbeat. He will do the fucking shit. - Yeah. - You know, he will do all the shit. - He can host a game show. Like, honestly, he can branch into non-sports things. - Tried TV. I think he would be a home run. - Maybe 100 meter dash running up and down that hill all day. He's still rolling. - Him still striding, I think, is one of the more impressive things. And maybe he should be playing for his teams, you know? But his refusal there at the beginning of the transfer portal to operate in there and take a stand for ball and for college sports. I do think everybody was like, "Thanks, Dabo." - Nice. - That's very noble of you. I like what you're doing, taking a stand for this entire thing to keep what it is. But everybody that was clapping for him on the other side was like, "How do I get?" (laughs) - So close to Dan. - Way to go, dude, yeah. - All right. - No business. - All right, man, you're doing so good, Dabo. Now, I just told your wide receiver, we got about three million bucks for him. So good luck telling him that he just needs to keep doing it. So I think he did get delayed. You know, he started late, started late, started late in that game. Then he did start dabbling 'cause he realized, man, everybody's doing it. Not the only one really that is kind of taking a stand for ball and say we're not doing it. So now he's in there. He's a too little too late. Does he have to go through the growing pains now with the transfer portal? Who you get out of there, how you get out there? And how much money do they have to operate in there? Down at Clemson. We all assume a lot at every school, but who knows what's real and what is it everywhere? That's why I appreciate Kirk Ferrin's talking about this setup and I, well, how thankful he is. And what's the reality? You know, he like spoke about the reality of the start. We're never gonna be able to get the five star guys. Five star guys are getting millions of millions of dollars. Yeah, unless they're in state, that's really the only way. And like they grew up, like I didn't always want, like those are the only five star guys they ever have a chance of getting. Hey, that was a cool moment to you and Kirk. Thank you. That was all very cool. I appreciate that. You have been saying Kirk's dogs since the beginning of talking to my friends around here. Yeah, I assume he's heard that. No, I mean, yeah, I think so. I think he, and I know the GM, I've gone back and forth with him for a while now, but like that, I mean, that's real. Like I've been to probably like 100 Iowa football games over my life, you know? And like, I don't really remember what it was like before he was there. So like that, that is, you know? Yeah. He's not like emotional too, Danny. Jinser, tough guy, offense alignment. He was thinking in real time, I have been here a long time. Got a little disk guy, he was there. Yeah, they were nice, man. I was really nice to us. Hope we get a chance to go back at some point. I hope so. I think so. We'll see. It was a good time. All right. Anything we need to hit that we haven't talked about today? Tyson Bagen started for the packer. Or Bears, I'm sorry. Pull. Jikes. We have Versed the Packers. Verses the Packers today. So I apologize for getting that wrong amongst the two. Obviously, a big rivalry game. You worried about the backman? I mean, I could be playing quarterback for the Bears. And I think I'd be worried with how the Packers have been playing. So we'll see. It's at Green Bay, which certainly helps. But they're so banged up. They still can't block anybody. They can't run the ball. So I don't-- This is off a win. It's not good. They just beat the box. Yeah, against an undrafted rookie quarterback and did everything they could to lose that game. Was he a seven-zone draft? Oh, I thought he was late to the throw. No. And he's-- it's not like he's some bum. Like, he is super athletic. But like, no, I'm not getting fucking excited over that, especially when the best player on the defense tears as a kill he's during the game. And same deal, shitload of penalties, bunch of drops on offense. Still can't run the ball. Kevin Zitler might start this week, though. So that's-- and if that's what you're kind of circling is like the R season saved, Kevin Zitler is starting-- you're in a rough spot. Did you guys work out AQ this week? I think you worked with him. They need to, quite frankly. Yeah. They need to, but I don't think they did. But I'll tell you what, AQ's protégé needs to step it up at left tackle. I know that. He's out of the shipyard? Yes, he is. As he is. And he's actually not been that bad. I like giving it a Q a hard time for that. But no, we'll see. I mean, like, the bears are, you know. They're kind of the class of the NFC North right now, even though the Vikings are undefeated. Backman, Slyzen and Dyson for another-- He is throwing that thing. And I don't hate him, like, you know, like, I have no ill will close it. You love backman, I do love the backman. So like, it's kind of weird, but-- We have an official appeal from the NFL refsist. What? We don't know what their new collective bargaining agreement has for what they're allowed to appeal or challenge. But they certainly are challenging. The severity of the suspension of two officials for the unprofessional conduct, which the official union maintains went beyond appropriate punishment. I assume the NFL is going to say, hey, we've got a new CBA. If you challenge it, was that me? You put a tweet out through Shepardon? OK, that's all you got. Shut the fuck up. They think they're above the letter of the law. These refs, man. They think this game's about them. They think we're showing up at stadiums and sitting down and watching Red Zone and our TVs for them for the stripes. I don't think so, my friends. Take your suspensions. Hit the road. See when you get back. The game's gone. I think this has only happened four times in a history of the league where refs have been suspended. One of the times in 1968, Gumpy correct me if I'm wrong, an entire crew got suspended. Yeah, he's. Because they gave too many plays, downs. So they were definitely-- Oh. Yeah. Oh, that's six times. Six times. Six times. Six times. Six times. Six times. Six times. Is 1968-- I think it was 1968. - Yeah, 1968. - It was Norm's group. - Who is it? Who is it? 1968, six officials were suspended for one game. And for losing track of the downs during a game between the Chicago Bears and the Los Angeles Rams. Six officials suspended, lost track of down. What, they had seven dogs? - That was Capone's group. - I don't have a camera, what do you want? I don't know, it's at the 1960s. That was one year before they called the moon. - Yeah, shout out. - Still fixing games. Does that mint laugh in? I don't know why he's laughing his ass off. Mint, fucking take a hike, pal. - I don't want to have the, yeah. Fuck you, mint. We went to the moon, I don't know. - Oh, he didn't believe it? - Jackass, what are you fooled laughter coming from the back, yeah. - I'd like to know Mint's opinion on that. - Actually, you know what, so would I. - Yeah, we really went to the moon, guys. I know, we haven't been back ever since. - We haven't, we haven't been back in time. - I haven't heard that one before. - Do flags blow in the wind in the space? - Yeah, thank you, I was gonna say, guy doesn't know how to spell his own fucking name, but you know, he'll go ahead and tell me about telemetry and how he went to the moon. - Can you open his mic back up? What's your score in the ACT again? - I got a 32. - Oh, you're that, that's changed. - So, it used to be a 33. - Yeah, something, it used to be some fake number that he made up. I mean, we got multiple people in here that said they went to school, didn't go to school, they just lived on campus. We got a fake ACT score that people were rolling with. - Mint's doing a good job. I shouldn't have come, I shouldn't have come at you that hard, Mint, I apologize. - He did big pop out of the 1960s. - I don't call it the moon. - 1968, six officials, 2018, and official was suspended and then 2062 officials lined up. Oh, so it's only been three times. Oh, that was four different times. - What would ACIS, may it peel like a player? - They said challenge, so it sounds like in the CBA, they can't. That's why, that's why they are saying the word challenge instead of appeal, but that's just me with a amateur eye looking at the wording of how we get to the bottom of this. We are gonna challenge it. We're gonna show up at the office, and we're gonna say, we don't like it. - Brotherhood flag. - I should knock it down. - Challenge is a ref word though. - I think it's too large. - You go two to one for the two games to one. - What are they gonna have game for that other guy? - That'd be cool. - That'd be cool. - That'd be kinda weird. - I'm still cold. - Hey, we need to read the steps from Stallone. Somebody in here, I'm not a big book reader, but we need to support Stallone. - You got it? - The steps, is it out? - I think it's out. - Tell him doing the rounds. That sounds really good. - I don't know. I would definitely read that though. - Okay, if we can read slides, the steps. - Did he do the audio book? I'll listen to it. - I think, yeah. - In his voice, then, yeah. - Did a chance to watch him work there a few different times? - Yes, it is out. - Okay, the steps is what it's called. - Yep. - Legend. - What's he about? - He's writing, working. - And so? - The story of Rocky, I believe, I think he's in the process of making that as well, so he could tell the story of what he was doing. - That movie comes out soon. - Yes, by the making of it, yeah. - So he's shooting that thing all day on camera and acting. Then he's editing all night, writing in morning, and then filming again the next day, broken ribs, 'cause of the things, just doing three, four hours of sleep, basically, as he's piecing together, Rocky. They tried to come buy it from him. He says, "Absolutely not, owns it, becomes his own end." Then he started talking about the numbers. Not just Rocky, everything at Rambo, everything else he's been a part of. It's like biggest star in action history, and he's with the pen, too. It's not just reading lines out there. Yeah, and still, we're doing toss the king. I got a chance to be a part of a couple episodes. Season four is coming out soon. - Season 16. - Season five, it just got picked up for another season. - Season four is coming out October 16th, honor to be a part of, so cool to be a part of and watch him kind of do his thing. But go back to his trailer in between shot. He's handwriting, then somebody has to take a picture of that, send it to somebody to put it into like how modern day is, 'cause he just writes it all. Notes on everything. We should do this, we should do this and said, at this age, he's still very invested, still writing, still a genius, still command and said, and I've never seen a guy smoke more cigars. AJ, I know you smoke a lot of cigars. It was a, I mean, we are chain smoking cigars. - Beast. - It was. - He's like the classy guy smoking with wearing a full, nice suit and not getting any ash on it. - Yeah, I don't know how some of those guys are so clean with this. - Three piece, yeah, and he looked out of cane. It was an honor to be a part of. It was to watch him work and then the steps, the book comes out, roll the calls with Ari. He's what, super agent, Ari Lloyd. He has his book out called Roll the Calls, as well. And then mosquito balls coming out. - Yeah. - I think next time. - Like a month? - Yeah, the week before Thanksgiving, right? - Watching Peter Bergwerk learning about the Marine Corps, learning about these college athlete football superstars that chose to go to the Marines and World War II as opposed to going to professional football. So a lot of stuff we've been very lucky to be a part of and learn about. Slice the loans one on one. So, I mean, being a lot of people that did not like his success there for a while either. - No, and tried to make sure he would not be successful. - And what do you do? - Why? - Just keep on, 'cause he was in a, he, yeah. - You own his own shit? - Yeah, and he's Italian. - They tried to buy it from because he said, that's what the name of the movie is. I play Rocky 'cause he wanted to, he was like, I wrote this for myself. I'm gonna be in this, and the studios were basically like, yeah, no, like you, you sound like that. You're not being the fucking lead actor. That's just not happening. He just said, no, no, no. And then eventually they're like, all right, fine. You can do it, but they put a bunch of restrictions. Like if this goes one day over what like the projected shoot is, we're gonna shut it down, bring it an entire new. And then like that's a big part of it is like he did all the stuff. So he's in there, you know, the scene where he's in like the, the meat locker, he broke one of his hands like for real. And they were worried like, oh shit, we're gonna have to take him to the hospital. This is gonna put us like, you know, a week behind shooting, everything's gonna get shut down. He's not gonna be, like he'll get replaced, all this kind of stuff. And so like the fact that it actually was successful, he wanted to ask your for it. It was like, you know, truly like rags to riches, like unbelievable hell worked out. - Oh, and this shit though, yeah. - Yeah, he won against a lot of people, you know, and had success, which people aren't gonna like. From our understanding. - Yeah, no where near his level, but he was an honor to watch him work and Pies on Special, whole family committed to the whole project, every project. Good for them, can't wait to read the steps. Somebody read it. - I will, sweet. - I didn't know that, I didn't know that was happening or was a thing, I absolutely will read that. - Oh, no, no, we're back tomorrow. - Hell yeah. - Hey, tomorrow's NFL week five eve. - Man, let's go. - It's already Tuesday. - Good one. - Big one Thursday. - Yeah, it's Thursday. - Cowboys bucks. - Okay, all right. - Weed and boys is Joey Porter or Senior says. - Weed and boys. - Who sings that song, Weed and boys? - Hmm, hmm. - Oh, it wasn't interesting. - Who is it? - It was Khalifa. - Where's he from? - Pittsburgh. - Oh, so maybe Joey Porter or Senior has just shown a little love to Pittsburgh. What are you saying, Weed and boys, Weed and boys? - He certainly wasn't. - Oh, I got to keep him out of football for four weeks. - That won't happen. - I got no problem with him doing that. I just didn't want to see it. - So you blocked him. - No, and followed. - Sweet hat. - Take care of your house. - This one? - Yeah, is your house clean? - They don't like it. - Boy, you ever seen a quote mistaken like that one before? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot of that, but it does feel like that is kind of the world we live in right now. He's back clean his house. What does he mean by that? 'Cause I heard maybe a three minute answer that had that quote in the middle of it somewhere. - Yeah, I listened to that full question and answer. And it was literally, it's week four, sorry, going into week five. So we've seen what the schedule was for the first four weeks. That's what Big Mike prepares for. We got a little bit of a mini buy after playing on a Thursday night, and now we've got some things that clean up is basically what he said, but that is not how it was taken. Was it, I've seen this quote everywhere on my timeline. And I thought it meant something completely different before I went and actually listened to the answer. So I could see how that gets taken out of context, but that's just Big Mike saying, we need to fix some things before going into week five. - Pittsburgh Steel is going to win a Super Bowl this year, AJ? - No, they might, but how did people take this? - I don't understand. - Fire, but he never said with fire, but he's talking like mental airs, and his assignments, things like that, pre-snap penalties, all that. - Yeah, we're not worried about other things. We got a lot of our own shit. We got to figure out the way he's saying it. As opposed to, hey, let's take that couch, get the fuck out of us. - I love this back of course. That's so great. - Oh, what a fucking- - Also, if you don't like each other play, like a player in a coach that hates each other, don't really do this. Like, this is a thing where they care about each other and they can, you know, this happens. (laughing) - That's a fucking ass hole, is he yelling at me? - That's another part that most people just don't see. Now, you see TJ White getting on the headset, or, who else was another coach, quarterback, kind of getting after him? Oh, it being in me and my homes, just having a spirit that got like, it's so much going on. - Travis is a lot of it. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Remember the Travis Kelsey bump with Andy Breed? - All that stuff, yeah. - That shit just happens. - That's part of it. - Language of love and Pittsburgh. Source says, tell us, immediately after that moment. Hey, what's going on? You guys about to fist fight each other? Source says, what do you mean? I saw a video last night. There was a lot of stuff being said back and forth. - Oh my God. - I believe fucking ass hole is the words that came out. Oh, I love that guy. There's a language of love here in Pittsburgh. What are you talking about? - Gone from the side line, I don't know. I thought you were trying to call and lift a friend up here. Do you remember that? - Yeah. - That was his answer. I'm just trying to do some journalism here, man. Oh, come on. Come on, hurt. We're already lost enough, I mean. - I don't like that picture, they put out the outfit. - Who? - Which one? - I'll show you guys that. - Did you like the picture that Houston Texans put out of CJ Stratton? >> No. >> Hold on the chicken, Nuggy. >> That's stupid. >> All anybody saying on the internet, it's just guys trying to meet both sub. High Italian sub coming right up from Justin Herbert. That's what people are saying. That's the, this year's shit talk is boy, it is tasty what you're throwing to the other team. As Torra, the Texans certainly put that back together as well. They have not won a game since he tore the terrible towel, which is bad news. Justin Texans put C.J. Shroud right into the fire, look at this guy throwing chicken, Nuggy, he's around. >> I can't wait to put some marinara and a bun on that thing, and he's throwing chicken palm sandwiches down the field next week. >> That's what everybody on the internet is waiting, and you know, it's always great when it's your own people that are doing it, like he used to text and do it to C.J. Shroud. He has not thrown a pick. >> No. >> Okay, C.J. Shroud actually playing okay football, pretty good football, they're O and four, but he used in Texans social teams, like, you know what, McDonald's gave us a good amount of money. He's fucking like, let's remind people how C.J. Shroud showed up to train and camp real quick. >> And we're O and four. I'm sure people will look into how he's actually doing this season, not just look at this particular photo and see the Texans are O and four and not cook him. This is just dropping right into the fire. We talked to Bryce Young. He had a very adult view on it all. He assumed C.J. Shroud will as well. But that came across, that got sent in, and I'm looking at him, like, so who did this? Did they use the Texans that this? >> No. >> Yeah, I can't do that. Just cannot do that, to have J.J. Watt with one on a fork. >> Yeah, I can. >> Well, Anderson, something along the way. >> Cover in one. >> Get jump on top of a nucky, but when the trend of the internet is, this guy's throwing fucking tasted to everybody as he's asked, I don't know if we need to be putting nuggies in there. >> No. >> O and four team, franchise quarterback. Kevin's time to do a long-term deal. Showed up looking good. >> Yeah. >> He had a terrible playoff run, but not playing bad football. Let's go ahead and fucking drop him into a fire. But a lot of numbies on those nuggies. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anderson's run a lot of quote, a lot of quote tweets. >> Yeah. >> McDonald's is gonna give him at least an extra $2,500 bucks for this. >> Mm-hm. >> Maybe one ticket to a suite for a game. >> Yeah. >> Sure. >> If you're a Texans fan, claim those nuggies, because you haven't had a lot to be happy about, but a 10-piece nuggies, no, no sweeten-sour sauce, positive, minuskey. >> Give me about five minutes. >> You ever touch down? >> Bones started walking too, Houston. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. >> He's not going to Mordor anymore. >> He's back on. >> He's back on. >> Wait, he stopped. >> No, he's back yesterday. >> He's back yesterday. >> I haven't paid. >> For five in the week. >> It's crazy. I'm not here like two days of the week now, you know, because Mondays and Fridays. For how the Thunder Down has been going, you know, whenever we're gone on the weekends. And in the Monday, I don't have bones doing much, you know, just up, up, back in here. And I haven't seen bone disappearing, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if that's been happening. And I see Connor working out a lot by himself. And I don't know. What are those things? Are trolls walking to Mordor? Who are you on? >> Lovingly. >> Hoppets. You're like a lonely hop. >> He's being back on the wagon. For a minute there, he was, you know, faced down and elvish bright, if you will. He is now. >> What is that? >> He's now once again, back on the journey. >> Well done, my friend. Well done. >> If you will, AJ, if you will. All right. Well, I'm happy to see bones back. You guys haven't taken care of the place, rather well. And Bruce, admit good work, Baker. >> Thank you. >> Good work, Lads. >> Yes you. >> Yes you. >> Yesterday, starting away, it did just with complete failure. That's how you start a week. >> Can I have it? >> Only up from there. >> No panic out of Bruce. >> No. >> Could have been very panic riddled in that situation. >> There was a little bit, but, you know, he just can't really panic. I just keep going. >> That's right, because guess what? Just like the NFL, there's another game coming. >> Yep. >> And another one. >> And another one. >> And another one. >> Do you see him on the bike last night? >> Oh yeah. >> Stand for Steve. >> Look good. >> That guy's the best. >> The best. >> He was just roaming behind the New Orleans Saints. >> Was it the Falcons? Yeah, I think it was the Falcons. >> Who's your son? >> Here's him last night waiting to go on set with SVP for late night sports, they do a great job. He was getting after it. He was just roaming behind the Falcons bench at one point. We were standing there, right before half time, and standing for Steve is out there with us. We start looking for him. He's just walking down a sideline, just kind of aimless. He's big smile on his face, walking around, comes back. I just seen something and I get so loud in there. I finish my Gatoray ball, he goes, name it a third out of the way, grabs it immediately, walks back. I think it throws it into the Falcons trash can, and on the bench comes walking back on like, Steve, you're the fucking best. >> One of the best rumors of all time. Walking right through Nick Falk, getting warmed up in case they got to make a kick. >> Yeah, Nick Falk is warming up there, Steve, I've got to get to the other side here. He is the most important in the sideline. >> I got a good shot of him. >> He was a concussion in order, guy. >> Those two have really become thick as the two P's in a pod. >> Yeah, they really have, which is good for ball, I think, as a whole. But Sanford Steve, seeing him as much as we've seen him now, good person to see. >> I've got to get to hopes. Good to see you. >> All right, guys. How about him with a fucking full press conference last week in Iowa? >> Yeah. >> I was dreaming of what this would be. He's the best. He loves ball, bro. He fucking loves ball. He did that entire soliloquy about Iowa, and you see him start to break up about talking about the hospital, and then he continues to talk. And the thing that really got him, the thing that he broke on, was looking at the team, blocked arms and arm. He said, then he break out, and back in black's playing. It's just a team, especially when he was like, looking at the lads, just fucking ready to go in there, is what actually got him, is like the team aspect of it. Start to break, obviously talking about the kids, and the special, and how a magical moment. But whenever he visualized that team walking out, just arm and arm side by side, he just couldn't tell you more. It's just so in love with the thought of football, and he's perfect for the sport. He really is. He's perfect for any environment, because he knows everybody. >> Yeah. >> Who sat down next to you the other day, Gomes, at Walk On's? >> No, just the orders, Stanford State is just water to sat down, Walk On's, fuck up high school beers. >> Steve goes, that's where I'll be owns the place. >> There's nothing else. >> Jesus Christ, all right, I could see the owner here, how you doing? Steve walks into another place, where was it, Walwood, Deadwood? >> Yeah, Deadwood. >> Deadwood, I will. >> To imagine all the places around the country, Stanford State. >> Oh yeah, and Pete Thamel said it. >> Over years. >> You don't want to settle up next Steve at the hotel lobby bar either. He'll get you in the deep end, they're talking ball, he's gonna be in there talking ball, he's gonna have a lot of balls. >> Talking duo. >> Yeah, he certainly is. Hey, I heard we won. >> Yeah, they did, yep, big win. It sounds like Stanford Steve might have to fly out, maybe be the OC or something, I don't know. >> Are they running duo out there or what? >> I don't know, personal wise, if they can really handle all the stuff Steve was throwing at him. But we'll see, long season. >> I didn't see one single note taken by the head coach. >> Yeah, I mean, he was pretty boost up, so I don't know who knows if he even remembers, you know. >> Talking about all that kind of stuff. >> What's the name of the high school we're pulling for tonight? >> Columbus. >> And we won. >> Got big win. >> Maybe he needs to do that every Thursday night. >> I think he might, I think he might already. >> Does the other guy do basketball stuff in the OC? >> He had to go to white goals, the hoops. >> Yeah, hoops, yeah. >> He goes to practice right now, yeah. >> But does he like report from the sidelines during basketball game days? >> In place. >> Yeah, just go to the hoops games. >> Poops. >> He plays for the teams. >> Oh, that's pretty cool. >> I get the hoops. >> He's on a bench, Donner. You stick around and watch on these games late. It's a blowout. You'll fucking see him. >> See him going in. >> Checking it out. >> Can you imagine? Hopefully he wears a headband. >> Boom, boom, boom, boom, on the block, on the block. >> He's definitely playing great defense. >> I'm guaranteeing they feed him. I'm guaranteeing they feed him as Stanford C gets on a court. He's the best, good energy, good vibes. Football, the best is, he did not know he was going to be doing it for a minute and a half. He thought that was definitely a 20 seconder send to the break. They just kept that thing going on. Jay's still going, all right. He got up there, made some good picks. Talked to Bijon, talked to Brian Robinson. SVP changed his tie. There was some discussion by numerous members of the panel, less than a Monday night countdown. How it felt pretty obvious the Falcons probably going to win this game. It felt pretty obvious without good they were. Couldn't go against the 20 year anniversary. >> Yeah, you could. >> I don't know. Could you imagine being the one, well, I guess Jay Mac was and he got the win. >> Yeah, but you walk he did, yeah, he did, he said it openly too. He said, I don't care what you guys are doing, I need a win. I'm going with the Falcons because I said, the thing about game day that makes it so difficult is you get there and you feel like the energy of it and it feels special. Is there a chance his team can win? If there's a chance his team can win, I would like that to be what's probably going to happen, like when I'm making my picks. I don't know which team I'm picking in the morning whenever I go over usually. For Iowa, Ohio State, I had that there's no chance I was going to win that game. I got there. >> You really speak quite frank. >> Me neither, really. Speak quite frank. >> Yeah, and I don't think a lot of people did, but I had zero, I gave them a zero percent chance, which is why I picked against them. And if I go out there and on the field, which is normally the games that we're at, both teams can win. College football, anybody can win. If it feels like they can win and it feels special, I'm like, let's go with that team. It felt special in Iowa. On the field, I didn't think there was a chance, especially because Ohio State had already lost. Like this weekend, I'm eager to see what the vibes are. I'm very eager to see what the vibes are there, you know, and people get what am I supposed to do at the end there for the last pick Am I supposed to just fucking say hey, this is the team I like her? Yeah, that's what they brought you here for just say this what I like Rest in peace and a headgear obviously that was an incredible thing legend here It was legendary. It was a great idea. Oh, yeah, it was an incredible concept and could be paying homage, you know to an icon every single week Could be, you know But instead just my phone fucking group people go ahead and go good luck out there pal got minute 30 till the end of this All right, you got it got a couple hundred people back there a chance for you to take your shirt off All right, or they're just gonna talk over what I'm saying because I need them to listen a little bit You know cuz what I'm gonna say needs something. So it's an interesting little predicament lucky to be a part of it I do think the headgear could have been in homage To Lee Corso and also it's something that's very special to every single college campus But the decision was made for it not to happen. So now I just got to get these fuckers right, you know, yeah, really That's what yeah, I just got to get them right. Nobody gets them all right Have you ever been swayed? I know you you know, you talk about environment players you ever sway it by a coach in a reaction Oh, when they showed up on the set. I'm just saying yeah, you're doing the set pre-yeah. Yes, yeah, yes Who was it? Kalen to Bohr showed up in his his pin. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm a sloppy He's the championship. Yeah, the other way. Also, you said sarke this year. Remember you said I was calm sarke was Yeah, sarke showed up whenever Ohio State went to Texas showed up on the set I was going to high state for sure the North. Yeah, right. I think undertaker obviously huge Texas fan He was expecting me to just immediately. I get a I get a message You know from a lot of Texas people that's like I don't like what you're doing with those horns You need to fucking watch how you're doing this, you know, so I walk up to take in real life and I go Like this is literally what I do and he goes don't you fucking don't you know? Oh, and he goes don't you and then he gets but I was gonna pick Ohio State I was gonna do the entire thing what a start to the season to first time. I'm in Austin I'm going for the North just kind of setting a precedent on it all then sarke it's up there I've never seen a more fucking relaxed guy and it's like Is there a chance Texas can win on it? Yeah, there certainly is this place. It's been a Thousand degrees. They're packed out feels like it's going to be a special night I'm like, you know, I yeah fuck it. All right. I'll go with Texas. Let's do it and they end up getting a huge that was a hundred and twenty two I think it was 160 degrees on the turf there. Yeah, it was something like that. Yeah On that little area there probably a hundred and ten it felt like and they were just posted up the entire morning and Sarc was feeling the way he was feeling. It's like yeah, I think Texas going to win actually all miss same thing I plan on picking against them because I had LSU win in the national championship And then I walk out there to the grove for the first as my first time I've ever seen it. It's like holy fuck This is a this is a real This is a real atmosphere. This tonight's gonna and then you start talking on and it's like yeah We need this one. We need this one. We need this one. Then golding comes on show. It's like I like golding I like holding a lot. I like these people a lot. Yeah, fuck. I think they aren't gonna so I'm a lot of that as opposed to like You know necessarily just having a decision on today on who's gonna win I have a good lean though. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I have a lean for this weekend. Okay. I have a good lean for this weekend Hmm. I really like killing Russell. Oh And on the flip side. Yeah, I'm gonna say I Really like Kirby smart. Yeah, and what's that coming down the track? You know nobody's really been talking about the mean machine in the red and black and Erie nothing finer inland and a trumpet drunk. I'm not just Georgia fan. I Think it's weekend's a big celebration for Bama. Sabin's coming back. It's gonna be a tough one. Let's go That's a good ball game. It's great. It's gonna be tough one to figure out we'll be doing a lot of vibe stuff I'm worried I'm gonna be swayed early because I think I'm watching Doc on Thursday night. Yeah. Yeah, yeah There's gonna be a lot of Tuscaloosa Bamba stuff in there. It's almost like propaganda saving it walking through I was gonna say you know Saturday you know set with two brothers guys. I know. I know. I know. I know, but it's saving field Yeah, what's that? It's where I like the board. It's just some piece of shit. No, no, no, no, we are good ball coach. We watching in that shamship We like them. I don't love it. We like it. It's time. There's levels there are levels What are you saying? Sabin's on his own level. Yeah, Sabin. There's no one's ever done when he does. Yeah And the board knows he's walking on the save and field every time he's on the level two. Yeah, exactly definitely Ooh, who is he gonna win? AJ early lean Bama, Georgia. I Feel like your early lean might be Georgia. That's what I'm kind of getting from that. No, I feel like I did the My my early lean is Georgia. I feel like I did the high wire pretty good right there I feel like I did a pretty good high wire if not giving it away even though I know which way I want to go right now It kind of reminds you of old matchups with Bama had saving. They always they had the better team But then it was like so it's kind of flipped the other team was a good team. It had a mobile quarterback And that's always the great equalizer. So I feel like that's the same. We're here like coaching wise Even like culture or standard all that shit right now. I would lean Georgia, but that X factor is a quarterback Yeah, he can so I mean it's tough though the board to and one again scurvy smart lifetime We like that stadium too. We've been in there. Yeah, it is that place is sweet Real and I think Miss Terry is a part of their entire in-game process We're gonna only learn more about that through the documentary six or seven episode Docu series on sabote all in one night What do you think Wait, so I didn't know it's a six-part thing seven maybe I think the number they show it all of it They're showing the whole thing at once. No, I don't know. I'm going to a thing I don't think we're watching all every episode seven to four No, I think that's a plan is they're gonna start at 8 p.m. And you guys will wrap it about 4.30 in the morning and then Let's go. Yeah, that'll be sick. I've never been a part of anything like that before so All right, cool. I'll yeah, I'll be ready for Sabin. I'll do it right. He's become a little bit more of an entertainer Oh, yeah, he's starting to come a little bit more of an entertainer people getting real mad about him Dablin in the TV a little bit if I was still coaching I'd be trying to get this guy in the transfer portal joke from next Sabin all of a sudden this piece of shit this guy's like I come on how about I would I love this place I've had 16 out of 17 so goers were playing your ass. This guy's no class. This guy's no class. It's like he's doing Sabin's getting really good at the TV like really good at the TV really comfortable And he's been working his ass off with the promotion of this documentary I think I think he's pretty pumped for this thing to get out And just gonna see other I didn't get to see even on Theo Vaughn on his podcast. I need to watch Theo you went on with mad dog, which obviously he's been on every show You know, he's been on every show and I think for the first time long time They just opened it up to media requests and then everybody that has ever had a media request sent it in and I think he just felt obligated Well, thank you for being you know interested. All right, and then you know and then all of a sudden it becomes a you got 16 of these things real quick and oh, yeah, protect college sports act Let's talk about that for the first 15 minutes of this thing. Why that is happening right now It's not a part of your documentary, but it's obviously a big part of your life and legacy whenever it's all said and done So I'm pumped to watch this I'm pumped to see what we can learn about the man who would go on to become the greatest of all time stacked cast of characters doing Fashionals and sit down interviews West Virginia boy has certainly done good and they got some inside the locker room stuff that he didn't know they had I guess Yeah, and a lot of his players are like oh Pumped for the world to hear that I wonder what coach Sabin thought whenever they were like hey, we got footage from inside the locker room whenever you decide to put two in over Jalen Hurts really Yeah, who's the rat? Who was it? We also you remember half time when you said blah blah blah and he goes yeah We have video that too and him just go oh no what what other video do they have and I think that's a big part of this The amount of transparency the amount of footage that has never been seen before that they haven't let out. I think it's gonna be a good one I think it's the best way to do a doc documentary like you know You definitely want some say so on what goes out about you But it won't be the real won't be as good of a documentary if you you know you two hands on it I don't want that in there. I'm not comfortable with that. I think that's the point like you want to see the highs the lows the good the bad the ugly So I'm I'm definitely because we lived through that area We saw it on the football field where it felt like every year Ben was gonna go undefeated when the national championship have a Heisman at running back and then you kind of saw it Evolved with two under the vantig winning a high is miss so I'm very very and then him stepping away going like I'm very Very intrigued and what's gonna happen? I wonder if they have any game day stuff in there Mm-hmm. I want to assume something. Yeah. Oh, you mean like him on game day. Yeah, because you got to end it like towards the end Or whatever you got to show update kind of what daily life looks like now. You think the person that owns the production company that did this I I assume he'll do good. I don't know. I assume to do a great job because the stories immaculate But I wonder which portions they do kind of focus on you know because obviously those creative decisions are certainly a part of this Six or seven parts. They should be able to cover a decent amount. Yeah Is it all gonna be out at once? How do I cat for me if I'm not going to the premiere? How do I watch? I want to be on episode What you don't want to go to the premiere either have you been in? You've been you have not been invited. I'm not invited. I want to miss Terry has a big answer AJ. Is it going to be released? Oh, yes. Every episode Thursday. Okay. Okay. Okay. Is it six or seven episodes? Is each one an hour? You're going to you go out in seven hours and that's how he didn't direct the thing. You think he knows all these fucking information. God damn. Look it up. I see. You're out. I think they're reporting. It's six episodes. I think that is. This is being reported. What was the last dance? 10 10. Yeah. Brady. These was 10. Jerry's was very good too, right? Yes. So we assume savings will be very good. Yes. I hope it's unedited. Oh, no. He has been six part documents. He was told seven premieres on October 8th. Release schedule airs weekly starting Thursday, October 8th through November 5th, 2026. I asked him. I'm also seeing. Yeah, I got the dates of the episodes and the episode names. All six are coming out on Thursday. No. I am also seeing on the AI thing like that. All six episodes will be available to stream on the SPN app at the time of launch. Yeah, I saw that. I heard that yesterday. Somebody said that on a TV somewhere. I don't know what's real and what's not. How about that? A little bit of mystery here. A little bit of mystery. Thursday. It starts. Does it end? We will find out. We'll see. What do we prefer to weekly drops or just been able to binge? I like weekly. I'm a big weekly guy because I know I know that once a week, I got a show to watch for an hour. Need two of them though. On the first drop. I think you have to drop to each time. I think I need to be able to watch more than one episode. Just personally, in the modern streaming era, I think a happy medium would be if you give us a couple episodes as opposed to all the episodes, because I think a lot of the streaming platforms, they put a lot of money into things. And then they dominate for a day and a half. Everybody should never watch again. It's like, well, we just all we want is people come to our platform. They came to our platform and then they disappeared again. So I think there is going to be the rollout shit still like the old days, but I think we need to be able to feel like we're streaming still. Like I need to be able to get in the second episode and fall asleep during it. Yeah, I didn't come back. I like all the wants now that I'm thinking about because it's so many things to watch and when I actually get to some maybe on a flight or whatever it may be, you want to, you know, sometimes you just want to, oh shit, like it's really good. What's going to, you know, usually live, live off on the cliffhanger. So I like kind of watching because you know, two weeks down the line, something completely different may have dropped out of some other new show may have debuted or football see like so much shit going on, battling for your attention, give it to me. Let me figure it out when I have time to watch three episodes. Let me watch three episodes. Yes, that's me first. Me too. But I need at least two, I need at least two. I can't just one. I can't do what you want all six all of my wants. You're a big binger there, right? I will watch stuff for hours at a time for sure, but I just like having the option. Yeah, I like the freedom. If it's one of the time, I absolutely cinema if it's once a week. A lot of attention each week that we're going to have to pay, you know, life on the edge, I'm dangling my feet. I tried to pay attention, but attention paid me. It's hard to want to watch something every single week. If they just give it, I'm just going to wait till it's all that probably. And maybe it might all be out on Thursday. We don't know. Is it going to be Thursday because we got Thursday football, fucking bingo. Yeah, but that game's going to sucks. We got to find out tonight too. What's that fun belt tonight? Who's playing? We got Southern Miss catching 10 at Troy. Oh, stand alone game. Oh, fun belt Tuesday. No, thank you. So taking on it. Party in the QSA. What are you getting so mad about over there? By way, it feels like you've been a little bit upset. No, I agree. Conner said, no, thanks. I agree with him. I love football. I love football. I'm the fucking piss off. I'm watching Southern Mrs. Troy on a Tuesday after baseball. You can get fucking break. No way. You have a tie is thinking after baseball is coming soon with this Yankees. Yeah, but I'll still watch the playoffs. I'm just saying, I that's Bruce. You don't have to do a little bit more in Southern Mrs. Troy to get me on Tuesday night. Dodgers Braves, six o'clock on TBS Brewers, Padres 930. Who's pitching Mama Yamamoto, Chris sale. How about Brewers, Padres? I don't know what the Paveta is going for the dads and then Dusty May is going for the Bruce. Oh, that's that's good pitching, right? Um, Paveta is, yeah, is has had a great career. Dusty May got traded from the Cardinals. I believe mid season to the Bruise. He's, he's pretty good. He's solid. Uh, not their ace. Obviously misses their ace. And he's not their number two or three. But you know, I would say they're going to try to get to the, they want four innings out of Dusty. Yeah. And they're going to try to let the bullpen kind of take over there. I mean, we'll see. They got it. They had a day off. But the Mason Miller through 40 pitches the other night. So the, the Brewers are quite an advantage tonight. Paveta, Paveta is a lunatic on the map. What are you doing? He's jumping up. Oh big game pitcher, smacking himself in the head. He's, he's the man, which for the Red Sox for a long time. Okay, I'll responsibly gamble on a psycho upper and then Chris sale. Obviously. What? Brewers tough. Dusty May. Brewers are a good ball team. I don't know about Dusty May used to play for the Red Sox. And he was terrible. Big go. So you can see where everyone who leads the Red Sox is a picture is fucking unbelievable. Wherever they go. What about Skipper Murphy, too? Am I going to be core sale? I mean, that should have one gay one shit off fucking wrong. So you keep calling the Padres dads. Yeah. Is that what everybody calls them? The dad raise. Well, Padres is Spanish for dads. Oh, okay. Call them fathers. Could call them fathers. San Diego fathers. I think Gump's kind of got me on the dad's thing to be honest. I like the Canadians have good lingo. Yeah, same with doyer. We have a hockey. The doyer. Doyer's are a good team. We have a hockey guy around us every single Monday. Things have come out of this guy's mouth. Unfucking believable. Just never ends. There's a never ending supply of phrases or descriptors that you have never heard before. Have heard each word individually, never seen them piece together the way that this fucking guy's done it. You've you've seen John yet. Oh, yeah. Good conversation. You last Monday. His head. Just a full. I mean, this thing's an entire. Yeah, and it's filled. I think with just hockey and Canadian phrases any time. And then his hands. He's got heavy hands. Every minute likes to play hockey a heavy way. Yeah, Denver's starting back up. Do you hockey team national champs? Yep. They're starting back up here in the next week or so. I believe they got BC here in two weeks. Oh, I think they're playing the United States. Academy out of Michigan here this week or whatever it is. And then they got BC and then also Boston Alaska. They open up Alaska. Maybe a bridge. Yeah, they got over there in Alaska. We're going to be paying attention to college hockey this year because fucking big John's going to be John. He was wearing his sketches. He broke his fucking foot week one got walk around and slipper so I was going to fix a broken foot. These shoes were the worst things I've ever broken foot for a month. Yeah, but I'm wearing shoes with some platforms on them now. This guy was wearing slippers walk around them when he's sitting in a chair with this shoe off. He was unbelievable. Hell around for big John. Big John's really being in big John's been doing a lot of search into the internet of things that are said. Here's go. Hey, you really got a bank all worked up. So we had to check into this. Obviously, it's like thank you so much. Big John for doing that. I appreciate you and big Joe to polar opposite human beings. Yeah, two polar opposite human beings. Literally, figuratively. Big John and big Joe. We appreciate the hell out of them. AJ, wait till you meet these guys. Have you seen SpongeBob? They're calling a Sponge Joe. Yeah. I saw he gave me a poster board to bring into the till you guys did a little meeting the other day. Let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. Thank you. Hey, Bruce. You're doing great, Bruce. You are. I'm really proud of you, Bruce. The Mike said it like Foxy really with the Mike and everything to cut to yourself and say something that that might be the most press part, but I miss that you there if we want to get another. Yeah, I'm trying to get in there while you still had yourself on there trying to make you miss another one. You admit have done great. Gumpy and Nick great job. Graphic design boys way to go. There you go. Boy, boy, boy, boy. Let's get back on that troll. Yeah, let's ride to the more door. That's right. Let's get after it a little bit. I like what you're doing. Conman, good for you. Motivating the pile. Let's try and help him. Motivating the pure life hack. But he's still doing that. Yeah, yeah, you put ketchup on chicken nuggets. They taste better. Hashtag like that. That's a good deep down life hack right there. AJ making life better. AJ, appreciate you as well. And we'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend, tell friends something nice for my change of life. We're just thing together. We're so lucky that we get to do this team on me. Team on three. Tomorrow's a big day. Huge huge. It's a big day. We got it. One, two, three, two. Good night.