PMS 2.0 1636 - TNF Preview/Picks, Mark Kaboly, Kirk Herbstreit, Florida Running Back Jadan Baugh, Coach Chuck Pagano, & AJ Hawk

- Hello beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the draft cadence dungered up on this football kickoff Thursday, October 1st, 2016. - This program began. - Nah. - Football! - What? - Bruce is at North of the state. Hey, you did good back there. Obviously the man on the ones and twos this week, because Evan Fox is celebrating the hell out of life right now with his family. His Bruce Brown right next to him is making the badge. Now would be a time to catch yourself, Bruce. Yeah. - Good work. - We tried out a new grip there, and you know. - Did you try it before the show started? - Yes, I did try it before the show started. - Yeah, a lot of reps in beforehand. Got a lot on your plate. We appreciate the hell out of you, you two met. The boys in the back, Nick and Gumpy, Nick Pittsburgh Steelers fan. He's obviously excited for this evening as a brand new era of Steelers football. Without a Minecraft metropolis involved. Travels to Cleveland to take on Todd Munkin to Sean Watson in a winning Cleveland Brown's football team. Thursday night football has been very good to the Cleveland Browns, especially against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike McCarthy, though, the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's 16 and 6 on Thursday nights. That's a pretty good little stat as well. Something has to give. Well, Big Mike and Aaron continue with what they started this past weekend where they were moving and cooking. And executing. And had some plays that people were saying, "Wait, Big Mike is an offensive football genius." And on the other side, Todd Munkin and his backwards hat has the dog pound absolutely rolling, thinking that they might be a great football team with the Sean Watson winning in 2026 for the first time since there's a 2009 maybe. - That's what it feels like, yeah. - 2008 maybe with how long ago he had been playing great football and been able to be healthy. So if the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers are the talk of the time, especially in the AFC North, which every team is above 500 I do believe. If Cleveland Browns football on Thursday night, on prime, smacks, Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rogers, and the Pittsburgh Steelers in the face, you're gonna have a celebration on that lake like we haven't seen in some time. Maybe all the way back to when Baker Mayfield came in and his first appearance for the Cleveland Browns and opened up the cooler of Bud Light that was locked until they had a win as he went crazy. This could be the launching of Todd Munkin, Dishon Watson, the Cleveland Browns being a brand new team as they head into a brand new stadium here in the next few years. And then for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they got olds across the board. They got money invested everywhere. They chose a head coach that could win right now, not somebody that needs to rebuild an entire new operation, a new organization. And on that note, speaking of new and new organization, there is no quarter a part of the Pittsburgh Steelers at this moment. - Wow. - Last night, massive move was made. Joey Porter Jr., son of Joey Porter Sr., former Pittsburgh Steeler, great and Miami Dolphin Great, was traded to the Dallas Cowboys. - Wow. - Now, Joey Porter Jr joins George Pickens, who got traded from the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Dallas Cowboys. And obviously the Dallas Cowboys now cooking, Joey Porter Jr.'s agent, David Mullageta, was tasked with getting Joey Porter Jr. a new deal this past off season. Those negotiations did not load any fruit, I guess is how you would describe it before the season started. The Pittsburgh Steelers came out and said, as per we have always operated, we will not be negotiating any deals now that season has started, sorry about it. Joey Porter Jr., then had to go out on practice and do a little bit of interviews and press conferences and he came out and said, I don't know if I'm playing, that's for other people to decide. Then he had a lingering injury, then he was out, then he was active, then he was full participant, then he wasn't, then he had a back injury. Boom, now he's the Dallas Cowboy. Joey Porter Jr. was never gonna play for the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. Pittsburgh Steelers, I think, probably realized that. Pittsburgh Steelers try to figure out how the hell they can get the best value for it. They get a sixth and a second round pick from the Dallas Cowboys. And now a defense that has needed it and a defense that maybe fits Joey Porter Jr. a little bit more, gets him and the Pittsburgh Steelers continue to move on without the drama that was happening potentially off the field and in the locker room or on the defensive side, where we've heard other defensive players come out in support of Joey Porter Jr. getting his deal done. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done! Cowboys AP tone. Tone, Pittsburgh Steeler fan, Joey Porter Jr. Now at Dallas Cowboy, your thoughts on if this was inevitable and how Jinsers feel? Yeah, it does feel, it did feel inevitable. The longer it went on, especially after you talk about everything you said was correct and right. And you talked about how they don't negotiate during the season and then this fan and back injury carries on. I mean, there's pros and cons for both teams like, yes, it trust me, it sucks to keep losing young players to the Dallas Cowboys and young good players to the Dallas Cowboys with Joey and George Pickens in this situation. Steelers fans in a general, from what I saw on Twitter, very, very mad at Omar Khan for not being able to get this done. You know, there's a lot of talk about not being able to pay young players, even though three players from his draft class have already been paid. This off season, you know, so was it too much money? Was he asking for too much? Does he value himself too much? Does Agent Value him too much? Does Steelers not value him enough? A lot of questions in that part. But no, I mean, where I am personally as a fan in this situation, I was just happy for it to have a resolution no matter what that resolution was 'cause I'm tired of this shit and it's just the worst. Like we're in the middle of the season. We should be focused on football. I worried what it does to the locker room because he was, you know, a favorite in that locker room, especially amongst his peers in the secondary room. It sucks losing a good player, but, you know, I think this kind of what the situation was, and it also sucks that the second is until 2028, but I think we have like the third, fourth, and fifth round pick already from the Cowboys next season, so they didn't want to give up another one to us. But yeah, I mean, not great losing a good player, but you know, I'm kind of happy that it's over. David Mulligan gets us the agent. Jerry Jones doing a lot of dealing with David Mulligan to hear over the last couple of years. And he actually had this to say about whether or not he was going to be continuing to build that roster that they have this season. - You're dangerous. If there's any people who are doing an overman with money. - So that means he's paying Joey Porter juniors. That what that means. Let's go to the talks with Dave Webb, Boss Connor, and that tie, Schmidt, tie. How do you think Jerry Jones handles this entire operation? Got George Pickens on a franchise tag, so he doesn't have a long-term deal. He got Joey Porter Jr. coming in. He wanted a new deal. Also has a back. - Right. - Has a back. - Jerry gonna pay Joey Porter Jr. before Joey Porter Jr. plays for the Dallas Cowboys. How does this kind of unfold, you think? - I don't think so. So I did Chef D's podcast with him this morning and I asked the same thing. I said, 'cause optically that looks terrible if you trade for Joey Porter Jr. when you had all the stuff with George Pickens and then pay him before you pay Pickens. What does that mean? He said he doesn't think he's gonna pay him right away. He said he thinks they're operating on good faith here and that we'll see Joey Porter might play Sunday for the Cowboys against the Texans, which is interesting, 'cause obviously he was not gonna play tonight for the Steelers, but it sounds like no, he's not gonna pay him right away. - Wow. Very interesting. - That is very interesting, 'cause he felt so disrespected, I would assume. - Correct. - You know, 'cause Brooke Prior put out a tweet about how, if we could put it up the Brooke Prior tweet, please so I don't get it wrong, what the quote was. There it is, two weeks ago, sources strongly suggested a relationship between Joey Porter, Jr. and the Steelers, was beyond repair. Tonight Porter is headed to the Cowboys. From the piece with Jeremy Fowler, I don't know if he ever puts on a Steelers uniform again, okay? Joining us now is a man who's been in that building and has sources all over the place. He is the Steelers correspondent for this particular program. Ladies and gentlemen, long time, esteemed beat writer and reporter, the journalist of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mark Bowley. - Yeah. Bowley. - How are you doing, Kobols? - Good, how you guys been? - Hey, not too shabby. You look fantastic. It is great to see you. I see your big head behind your actual head there, so I appreciate that alongside Lambo. And is that the Eiffel Tower been to France? No big deal. Kobols, let's talk about JPJ ending up in Dallas Cowboys uniform. Brooke Prior said that a couple of weeks back it felt like the relationship was really not repairable. And if there is a thought that he's not gonna get paid by Jerry Jones this year, and he's gonna play potentially this weekend, the rest of the way, he got so disrespected and pissed off at the Pittsburgh Steelers during negotiation that he said, "I'll go to another place that I don't really know at all in play for this instead." Like how did we get here in your eyes and what does the building think about everything that took place? - Well, the building's definitely on Joey Porter's side, actually inside the locker room. He's been nothing but a good teammate to them. So there's no problem there. So beyond repair, I think we got to that point right after the season started when you knew he wasn't gonna get a contract. Even a little bit before that, there was talk maybe a month before the season that that was not going to happen. There was so far apart with the numbers that there was never going to be a chance that he was going to resign. And saying he went to Dallas and not really have anything intact, with his contract-wise tells me that he was. He was very, very upset. He was just enchanted with the way the things went on here. And he's willing to take his chances somewhere else, which is very strange, considering the Porter family in this area, considering how much he meant, and how much he meant to the organization. He went to school right up the road. He went to Penn State. He was in the locker room and the Steelers won the Super Bowl. So it was just a bad, bad situation, but this was the only resolution. - I tell you what, you feel disrespected by people. you know, you can just say, fuck 'em forever. You can do that. And it feels like that is what inevitably ended up happening, especially if he's gonna play for the same exact situation that he would be in for the Pittsburgh Steelers, with the same back injury. Do we think he's gonna be healthy with the bet? Whoa. You can't be laughing at-- - No, you can't. - You laughing at AI videos too, I bet. - Yeah, every single one of them. - Not every single one of them, obviously. You can't be doing that, especially some of the AI. - Stop! - That's out there. We're sorry, we dove into an AI conversation. You are the opposite of AI in this entire thing. (laughs) Are you okay, Mark? - Not really. - What's wrong? - I don't know. I think I woke up on the wrong side of the bed. My whole left side is like-- - Jesus. - Little puffy. - Would you have a little boost, Mark? - Yeah. - Go to the high boost up. - Hey, I got a drive to Cleveland here. It's two and a half hour drive, don't you good? - Hey, thanks for not just flying and charging us for it, which I certainly would have noticed. I wanna let you know, I certainly-- - It's a 140 miles. I mean-- - Walk that. - Yes, maybe. - Even my back didn't hurt. (laughs) - He's going to Cedar Point tomorrow after the game is going to charge you for that. - All right, you're the best. Thank you so much, Kaboly. Safe travels. Goodbye. - Kaboly. - Oh, wait, Kaboly. Kaboly's Kaboly's, I'm so sorry. Tony has a question for you. - Oh, geez. - Mark. - Uh-oh. - 12 years of Minecraft? Did not-- You didn't know this? Did nobody know this? I mean, the Minecraft experts are saying this is like five hours a day for 12 years. - Every day. - You know what the scary part about that whole situation is. He seems very proud of it. I don't know if I would be quite proud of that. Spending that amount of time in Minecraft to be honest with you. I don't even know what Minecraft is. I don't know what it entails. I don't know why you wanna build a city, but I just know one thing. The Steelers haven't won the playoff games since he started it, so. (laughing) - Ladies and gentlemen, it's Mark Bowles. - Yeah. - Kaboly. - I was thinking, thank you, Mark. I was thinking, like, as I was watching it, I was in demand, the attention to detail. - Oh my gosh. - It was unbelievable. - So I thought it was just like a hobby, maybe. It's got like interior design, architecture, and stuff like that. So then we have a Minecraft expert in the group text. - Yep. - Bill, who starts explaining what had to have happened for this to happen. We're talking block by block. - Oh yeah. - He had 14, 30 story buildings around a body of water that he wanted to build his city around. We'll get in his suburbs, he had my last stadium and everything else at a different time. He wanted to start around this body of water. So he, one block at a time. They all got patios. Every single room at the hotel has a patio. - By great condominiums. - Every single one of them had it. He went to a penthouse. He had a shark's aquarium. It was unbelievable. I thought I was watching Ace Ventura pet detective with that fish tank aquarium that was in that one person's house that I thought looked so cool. Obviously, Tom and thought it looked very cool too. Then I immediately thought, if I was a quarterback or anybody on that team, and my happiness depended upon us winning, and all I'm learning now in real time is that my coach was fucking built in a city block by block by a beautiful city. Block, I think I would have a little bit of a, what's going on, and now Steelers fans, obviously, that's me like, I haven't won a playoff game since the start of the game. - We went to two super balls before this, and then we went to playoff game once it started. Once this whole thing started, we didn't go to play. So there's that reaction. But for my understanding, phenomenal Minecraft city, I think he has really done well. I think in the gaming community or the Minecrafting world, I think they think he's, this guy might be a coach for them. - Yeah, the chosen one. - He might be able to do that. The football world though, I think a lot of people are going, man, that's a lot of, coaches have no time. Joining us now are coach, ladies and gentlemen. 37 years in football coaching experience. 19 in the NFL, 18 in college. I was very lucky to call him head coach, ladies and gentlemen, chocolate ballers. - There he goes. - Coach, go on. A lot of time being a head coach of an NFL team. Only 32 jobs, especially, I mean, winning every year, having a winning record every year is insane ability to be able to compartmentalize, I guess, year in. Maybe has more hours in a day than the rest of us. When you learn about Minecraft last night, I assume, or this morning, I don't know when you learn about this, and you start to think about this. What are your immediate thoughts about another head coach who has done incredible things as a head coach, also having a hobby that seemingly takes up a massive amount of time and energy and focus? - Yeah, I don't know how one does it. You know I had a hobby, right? - Spoken cigars? - Well, I did that a little bit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Basically, the peloton, right? I had it next to my dad. - Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. - So like our buddy Schneider, Luciano, multi-tasking, you can stick that in your office, you can jump on it, you can still watch tape, you can do a lot of things where you're just peddling a bike, but I can't fathom. I don't have a big brain as Coach Tomman has granted, he did a lot of great things, super bowl champ, all those kinds of things, but to try to find the time to create something this extravagant, like do you have to have like an architect? - I can say Andrew Locke doing this? - No, that's immediately what I thought. Like I build my grandson's love Legos, we put Legos together and you've got to follow, you know, the pages one by one and what goes together, they're really brilliant at it, they do a great job. Does this take the same amount of time? - That's what I don't know. - Like you say brick by, brick piece by piece in this, like 12 years on this city? Miss Gorgeous. - In any corner city, I'd like to go see it, we'd love to visit this place. - Yeah, at some point, hopefully AI gets a point where 3D printing can just make this city for Coach Tomlin, maybe in a less amount of time than he actually spent building brick by brick. Con, man, I think you know a little bit about this Minecraft code, not definitely more than any of us. Is this the greatest Minecraft city in the world? And I've heard there are some doubters amongst the Minecrafters, and I've heard in that assessment. - Yeah, you are, he was on about a five sensitivity, he was still running into walls, people were kind of. - Explain what that means, please. - They're picking that, that means if your sensitivity's high, you're looking around really fast. If it's low, you can't really move around as fast, when you move the analogs, it moves a little slower. So because of that, and because he was bumping into walls with a low sensitivity, people were kind of like, eh, maybe if Tomlin didn't do this, the attention of detail to your guys is point, the speak easy he had, he knew the exact name of the blocks he needed to have in order for the light in the speak easy to be just right, and for the view outside the windows of the speak easy to be right, I am shocked by this. I mean, if you just think about it, for the amount of time he's put into this, there is a hundred percent chance that on a Wednesday, prep day in the NFL, during a game week, at some point, when he's in his office or when he's on the field, he's thinking about some sort of building, some sort of change he needs to make. There's a non-zero opportunity here, or non-zero thought that Tomlin had more thoughts per year per capita than he did about his Minecraft city than he did about the Pittsburgh city. There's like, it is shocking, it is a massive worry. If I'm a Steelers fan to me, Tomlin's dead to me, as a non- Steelers fan, Mike Tomlin's the man. I can't believe this is what he did. - Winning record. - Winning record? I mean, granted sure he's been borrowed. - Everybody needs an escape, Connor. - Exactly, I agree. - I don't think so. - Is that addiction though? - That's why I, what's that? - This is an addiction. We're saying this took maybe five hours a day for 12 years. Are you shitting me? - That's crazy, how many hours is that? - Wasn't that the pagoledic, something like that? - Yeah, the pagoledic. - Yeah, Paganetti broke it down. He said it was about 5.6 hours per day for over a 12 year period. That's why we need to hear from his wife because if his summers were spent, you know, basically, three months at a time where he's locked in a room building 'cause that's another thing that I think Tomlin's-- - That's not three months though. So the reason why I would never do coaching, okay? Even though I think I probably could be an okay coach at some things, I think I probably could. But the reason why I couldn't become an NFL coach, we all say it, they are psychos with how they have to live their lives. They are in their offices trying to turn over every single stone trying to get an advantage deal with something. You have assistant coaching staff. You got to flee to people, you got to lead and manage and then there's an entire building, let alone in a whole program. It is a very, very time consuming job. That's why whenever Bruce Ariens head coach, Bruce Ariens threw both champion multiple times, whenever he comes out and says like, I tell my guys like, if you got like a birthday party for your kid or something, you should go to that. But it will find time somewhere else. And everybody's like, wow, I can't believe he does that. It's like, yeah, that's 'cause all the other coaches literally live in the office. I mean, that is just what the business is. So any player that gets into coaching understands that their life is gonna be fully in a building with not a lot of windows watching. That is just the process of it. There's only 32 of those opportunities jobs. There's only 32 of those things. And it's like the top of the world. So the fact that he was able to do all this while still winning against other people that are doing that is just absolutely insane to think about. He had to be operating with a different amount of hours in a day. He literally had to be operating with a different amount of hours in a day. if we assume this to be true. He spent a little over 24,500 hours putting together that city. That's so much time. That's so much. He's a family. I know. He's a head football coach at the NFL. I can't fathom it. Well, one 2,000 extra hours dedicated to football. I met for the steer. They went through football. If he's doing this, it is only off time. Yeah. I mean, it's about Bruce. Excuse me for interrupting. Like kicking guys, if family stuff, you know, because the hours, like you mentioned, or so, like I used to go down the hall. We'd go down the hall and say, hey, fast Friday, hey, get out of here. It's going to be here. It's the same going nowhere, right? Get out of here, go spend some time with your family. Not once that Bruce or myself are probably anybody say, hey, look. We've been working our ass off. You should probably get home, work on your Minecraft. Okay. Could you imagine Big Ben watching that yesterday? Could you imagine? I need to know. I need to know too. Ball football. If you're Big Ben, when you see that episode, your entire career was spent with Mike Tomman, basically. He must have just been tearing apart his basement. And it's a beautiful basement. Beautiful. And even his basement of his basement is a very nice way. That's what I mean. Yeah, he had to be tore it up. He had to ever talk to his teammates, like in a team meeting, he had to drop it somewhere. And then they just kept it in. No, we do have to remind everybody. Winning coach brought a lot of happiness to the city of Pittsburgh. All the fame coach. The Hall of Famer. Yeah. Everything like that phenomenon on TV. Probably will be a head coach again. But there are a couple groups of people that are watching that beautiful Minecraft tour that we're thinking of themselves. It goes on and on. There's more. Oh, we'll get to that on the next episode. Excuse me. I'm a rapper. Yeah. Excuse me. He thought he could get away one up. I believe that's what he tweeted out. Like, has he beat the campaign? I want to know that. Like I texted Nick like at the beginning, because you can see this different depths of the lake in the middle. I'm like, is that him? Is he digging out a shallow end in a deep end in this little lake? Yeah. Need a sand bar. Oh, yeah. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's had to listen to the last 10 minutes of this. And I apologize for that. I completely forgot he was on. He just got to announce a brand new deal to continue kicking off every NFL weekend for us on Thursday night with prime. He's obviously the face of college game day and college football prime time on ESPN and ABC. He's a former president of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, also former quarterback for Ohio State. Centerville Elk home run record have her. And also former starting quarterback for the Elks as well. I assume there's some junior team high school there. He's probably top corner. You think you ever played hopes? No way. No way. No way. Couldn't move. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Armstrong. Yeah. You didn't deserve that at the end. Couldn't move. What are you talking about? Oh, yeah. I remember you pulling it. Oh, yeah, the long scam. I was in Minnesota. I was a spot up. I was a spot up three guy. Oh, really? Three in D. Yeah. Three in D where you were smack in the wood for sure. Your bob the wood. Oh, yeah. Smacking it. Get down there. Get ready to go. Were you playing Minecraft at all? What are your thoughts on all this? It's just an incredible usage of time. I enjoyed the last 10 minutes of that. I had no idea. I've heard about it because my kids. But I can't imagine, man. I mean, coach, you know, a lot more about your day and what it takes to be a head coach and media responsibilities. And I mean, you're a CEO anymore as a head coach. But I guess everybody needs, like coach said, you need a release. You need something to occupy your time where you can get away. And I guess I don't know a thing about this stuff. I have no idea. But listen to the tie. That's a lot of hours building this city here. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, if you ask coach Tom and he say, "I feel like it was just yesterday." And I think to your point about having a release, you know, and something to do in a hobby. I assume he doesn't golf ever. A lot of people like to golf, I assume instead of, you know, 18 holes with the lads, he's in there, does not. Did you see that skull had flames? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Couldn't just be a skull. No. Need flames coming out of that thing. Yeah. Guys, unbelievable. Who's the expert of the crew in Minecraft? Bill. Your crew. Bill. Billy. What's his take on this? Billy, is this an impressive effort? Billy boy's 30 seconds behind back in his hole. He's going to have to, uh, somebody's going to call. Well, maybe, maybe, yeah, I'm just curious. He's coming in that world. Is that, is that as impressive as we all think it is? It's impressive because of pretty elaborate. Yeah, it's impressive because of the time commitment that it would take. Like, you can't just log on for a weekend here and there and get to where you can build those kinds of intricacies in your world. Like, you have to actually commit to, okay, let's research, like, how do I actually make it aquarium? How can I, you have to, like, put the water in the glass. You don't just get, like, hey, here's your water glass block. So it's every single block. He's being laid in this entire metropolis. And even removed, like, if he wants to expand his water feature that he said he based the world around, like, he can remove blocks. He can, he can cultivate the land. Okay. The intricacies and cultivating happening in Minecraft. Bill, how big is this city? Do you guys go by, like, what potential population would be? Like, how can you win the game? Do you win the game here? So there's, like, two levels of the game. There's, like, what Connor was saying earlier. There is, like, a campaign to where it's like, hey, there's objectives to beat this game. Or you can just do creative, which is what Tomlin was doing. So there's no threats or anything. It is just, let's expand this as far as it can go. Oh, yeah. Threats, what do you mean? You have, what's the campaign? Well, there's creepers, which is a monster that tries to kill you as you're trying to take down the Ender Dragon, who is the, uh, the End of G's. Thank you. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, speeded. That guy just did the whole, that entire thing on their screen. Yeah. Yeah. He got Miles Garrett on the Bronx. It's the entire time. Jeez. It reminds me of Creeper. All right. Thank you, Bailey. Thank you, Bill. That was a big moment for Bill. Way better. Him going for the word intricacies on camera. Yeah. That was quite aggressive thing. Yeah. Cultivating dropped in there. Learned about the creepers. He will. He knows Minecraft. Yes, he does. And he knows Creepers. You know football. Don't you hurry. Yeah. That's about where I draw the line. That's about all I got for you. Congrats on the new deal. Yeah. Well deserved. Well deserved. Happy for you. Uh, going to continue kicking off NFL weekends for some Thursday night. Let's go to tonight's kickoff of NFL week four. As we have an AFC North battle, every team in the AFC North is, uh, above 500. Congratulations to them being back in the kitchen. A lot of new faces obviously in the AFC North, especially here. Mike McCarthy leading the Steelers instead of, you know, coach Tomlin, who was a great head coach for the Steelers for a long time. But a lot of happiness. People got to remember that today in Pittsburgh, I think. And then Todd Monkin in the Cleveland Browns era starting beautifully. I think if you're a Browns fan, what do you expect from the night? What are you looking forward to? But I, when we were here for their preseason game, we had them in New England, uh, week three of the preseason games. And I remember talking with, with Todd Monkin and some of the Cleveland folks. And I was like, man, if you guys could start the year tough, tough, tough, tough to wait a start. At Jacksonville and at Tampa. If somehow you split that, come back home, beat Carolina. By the time we see you guys, who knows, it's be optimistic. You can be two and one getting ready for our Thursday night game against Pittsburgh. And they're a credit. They haven't played perfect football, but, uh, to their credit. They've been down in the fourth quarter. Both, both of their wins. Uh, Dishon Watson was able to lead them to victory. So they've showed some resiliency. Have it played clean football, necessarily. I would say this. And, and you guys and coach can really appreciate this. Five brand new offensive lineman from last year to this year. Two of them are rookies with, with follow out on the, the left tackle Austin Barber out of Florida is playing right guard. Now they're starting center who they went to Green Bay to get Jenkins. He's down tonight. So they're putting in a guy that hadn't played a ton of football in, in Luke Whiplier. He got three pretty inexperienced starters tonight against that defensive front with TJ watt, Alex Heisman. So I think that'll be for an offense, still learning a new scheme. You got two rookie wide receivers. You got a second year running back, a second year tied in. By the way, an abundance of young and exciting skills on Dishon Watson. But you're also learning a brand new system with Todd Monkin. So there a lot is going on for them to be sitting here at two and one. All I think of their best football is ahead of them as they grow in chemistry and growing continuity. But tonight, I think the message would be get the ball out fast. Make this stealer defense tackle underneath it in space. And they've yet to get the rookie that I think all of us pat. I know you know, Casey concepts you on what he did last year at, at, and him. They've yet to get him going and get exactly. Get him on jet sweeps, get him underneath, make him shake a defender and get up field. This kid Boston out of Washington. He's been on fire playing the X big target six four to fifteen. He's off to a great start. But what can they do to get conception on who's one of their dynamic playmakers going? And how will this offensive line against new defensive coordinator Patrick Graham? How will, how will they hold up and helping out Dishon Watson against the speed of that, that edge pressure from Pittsburgh? Before you get to the Pittsburgh Steelers, great breakdown there. The Cleveland Browns. We appreciate the hell out of you doing that for us because obviously you get a chance to chit-chat in the building multiple times. So you know a lot more than us. But when you're talking about that Casey conception, Todd Monkin is, they say, genius on the offensive side. We assume that it only start to happen even more. I mean, on Monday night, we saw a turpin with the Dallas Cowboys. They had him do it. He hit one and then the Eagles had. Luther Burton? - Oh, Chicago, no, that's Chicago. - Makai, the rookie at it is. - Yeah, Makai, Makai, Makai. - Yeah, so we started seeing a lot of, and let alone a hook and ladder to debos taking place. It's like, it does feel like we are back in the old, how do we get the ball, Tyree kill the chiefs almost. How do we get our fast guys with some space? And hopefully they'll be able to do that with KC 'cause when he has the ball in his hands, he is electrifying. Now, not a high over under tonight. I think it's like 38 and a half or something like that, expecting an AFC North of old type football game. Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers there last week on that offense aside looked wonderful. I mean, it looked like it didn't look like a Pittsburgh Steelers offense at all. That looked very different than what most people were seeing. Do we think that continues? Do we think the Browns defense kind of fizzles that out? And what are your thoughts on where Aaron and Big Mike are right now? - So the first two weeks, it looked like an offense. It was like a lot of offense. It's by the way, it is an extension of preseason. Just trying to kind of figure things out up front. Lack of communication, a lot of free runners, a lot of third and longs. There were five of 25 in their first two weeks on third down. And I don't know if this had everything to do with it, but they made a couple switches on the right side in the offensive line. They put in Brock Hoffman, who played in Dallas for Mike McCarthy, so familiar with the scheme, which I think helped. They put a big rookie out at right tackle. Young guy, this out of Arizona State, who's a monster. They put him in there, and I think Hoffman next to him I think helps settle him down and understand what they were doing. But talking to Aaron yesterday on our call, he made an interesting point. He said, you know, we were struggling offensively. And since then, he's playing great defensively. And Dexter Lawrence comes out there talking some shit early in the first series. And he said, it was like the first player to, we had a different kind of energy. He said, Brock Hoffman shot back at Big Dex and said, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like he wasn't taking any of it. And he said it just really seemed to provide some juice, which had been missing these first couple of weeks. And he said, it was like we were different offense. So I'm not saying everything to do with the assertion of these two guys on the right side, but it certainly helps solidify their offensive line, gave Aaron ample amount of time. They finally gave him time and he's able to hit some explosives. They beat Man to Man coverage against Cincinnati. Roman Wilson on a bunch route got away from Man. Metcalf had a nice route against Mech and Man coverage. So it looked like more of what you'd expect. And I'm sure Tone Saul, Jaylin Warren, who I think's the key to their entire offense. The back that they have, you know, for a couple of years, he backed up Najir Harris. He was kind of that one B back. And now I think they're super excited about profiling this guy. Just get another guy you want to get in space. Short low center of gravity, but thick, tough to bring down. They got to get him on track tonight against his Cleveland defense. This isn't going to be a hell of an atmosphere. I mean, it's a rivalry game. Both teams are two and one. The Cleveland fan base is starving as we know to have a winner. They're on the verge. They're thinking if they can win this game, get to three and one. They go to New York to play the jets. They come back with Baltimore here. And they go to Tennessee to take on the Titans. So if you can get a win here, dare to dream, you know, if you're a Cleveland Browns fan, but it is, it's a great match up in the trenches with Jared verse, Mason Graham, Isaiah McGuire. You guys saw what Graham did last week. This kid is really in his second year on a Michigan start to show what he's capable of doing. But I think it'll be a great battle. And the big thing is, can they give Aaron Rogers enough time to hit some of his weapons on the perimeter against man coverage, which is what the Browns like to play a lot of them. I like to hear the young fella chirping back to Dexie there, especially in his first start with a lot of eyes on everything happening there. I also like the big Mike McCarthy adorno Washington go up through the A gap and put his shoulder through Dexie's chest on the first play saying, hey, we can chip in here too, if we have to, just make him think about that the entirety. I felt like there was a big brain operation happening last week. Does that continue? I think yes. But where are the Browns? A team at Destiny, right? That's certainly a combo. There's a quarterback that has some success here for the first time, long time. Coach, has a question for you, Kurt? Yeah, Herbie Watson is endearing himself to these fans. He's starting to get some support, obviously. First home start, go down and get that win. He hasn't been effective until really the late in the game, the fourth quarters. How concerned and talking to Pat Graham and his defensive guys over in Pittsburgh? We know they got Herbig and Watt and all those guys up front, right? High Smith, eight, nine, sacks on the season. How concerned are they? Because to me, watching a tape, it just looks like the only way they're going to be able to move the ball. They'd like to get Jenkins going, right? But is Watson extending plays and then hitting, Boston down the field, hitting fan and hitting concepts you own and getting some chunk plays that way? How concerned are they with containing him? Yeah, I mean, you're all over it. I think that's going to be the key is, can he continue to make plays with his legs and create? I think is he's still trying to find his flow and his rhythm after being down for two years. One thing I'm seeing on film is, I felt like in his career at Clemson and early in his NFL career when he was having a lot of success with Billy O'Brien down in Houston. He did a pretty good job of working through progressions, but not quite trusting this offensive line. Five new pieces, two rookies. Still trying to work the kinks out himself, getting in rhythm with two rookie receivers. I feel like he is looking at primary and instead of working through it and trusting Monkin's system and these new pieces around him, he's taking off and he's creating. And I think everybody's thinking with a guy that had two surgeries on it to kill, he's ruptured to kill, he's moving around like he did when he was in Houston. I mean, he looks fantastic pulling it down. And I talked to TJ yesterday about kind of that controlled rush as opposed to just getting off the field. And they're definitely in tune, Patrick Graham. And definitely they're going to have a plan for how they want to try to rush, especially on third down. Because right now their best play is to Sean Watson breaking down a defense, keeping his eyes down field and letting Denzel Boston or Harold Fanon or somebody kind of work with him to try to find some space. So you take that away, make him play from the pocket if you're a Pittsburgh Steeler defender. Make him prove that he can trust his offensive lineman, trust his young receivers and make him play from the pocket. Do not let him get out or it's a good thing for Cleveland and not such a good thing for the Pittsburgh defense. >> I got a chance to watch Doshan News at Houston boots on a ground, multiple times. >> Yes. >> And it was, he was outrageous. I mean, he really was. He was outrageous on the football field. And that's why everything that happened off the field and the conversation happened. He's still a starting quarterback in the NFL. Because you have to be obviously unbelievable for all of that to be happening and still going. If he is anywhere back to close to what he used to be and feels as if and has worked his way into doing that. And Todd Monkin, the way he's talking about him, he's like, are we not supposed to motivate our guys? Is that not what we're here for? Are you not what you're not, but you are what you are? And when you are what you're not, is that not when you're good? So there's just a lot of these things, Todd Monkin said about supporting Doshan like motivating him to be the best football player he can possibly be. And he's looked a little bit like the magic that we've seen in the past. It's impossible to think that he would be as good as he was back then just because he was an MVP discussion. >> Yeah. >> And the way he throws the ball so unique, it is like a javelin, like the way he throws it. And it's, he throws darts and the way he can move. If he's anywhere near what he used to be, just from us watching and experiencing in real life, he's electric on a football field, Harry. >> No doubt, no doubt. And I think there's so much focus on him and rightfully so. I mean, this is a town that obviously let their feelings be known. And there was all that whole story. And now of course, he's winning games, coming bringing the team from defeat and pulling out a victory in fourth quarters the last couple of weeks. And now they want to see him do well. With that being said, I think he had to look at the pieces around him. Well, it's easy to focus on the quarterback on any offense. The thing I'm most concerned about right now, if I'm a Cleveland fan is Quinchon Junkins. This is a guy that fractured his fibula and an ankle had surgery, this is a week 16 last year. If you really watch him run, I haven't spoken with him. I'm just going by watching him on film. He doesn't quite look like the same guy that used to run with a chip on his shoulder, almost like he was just an angry runner. I haven't seen that yet in these first three weeks. Now I'm not saying there's been a lot of holes with this young line. But he likes to, here's your option. Shake a guy and go or run right through him. He wants to run right through you. And I think he's kind of working his way back gaining confidence because he's averaging three yards of carry. It's putting almost everything on this passing game and this offensive line to put him obvious passing situations. And I think thank goodness for Cleveland. The Sean's been able to create and make some plays. But do you imagine if they get Junkins and this other back Raheem Sanders, if they could get something out of that running game, right now they're 29th in the NFL and rushing. And it's putting everything like I said on that O-line and the Sean watch that have to create and make plays. >> So abnormal for the Browns, especially in AFC North football, to not have a good run game. At least appear to have a good run game. You assume that only gets better. And I agree with you about Judkins. He's awesome to watch, whenever he's awesome to watch. I hope that happens sooner than later, maybe even tonight. Now the defense. he's playing again seemingly obviously no Joey Porter junior back and cowboys tone has a question for you. Yeah, I do. Herbie. Obviously, you know, you said you talked to the team a little bit yesterday. Was there any conversations about Joey Porter junior and then him not being there. Jalen Ramsey has a broken wrist. Sante Samuel junior got benched last week. They brought in the rookie Dailin Everett from Georgia, who I think they really like. What are your thoughts on the Steelers secondary tonight with obviously Joey Porter junior gone and then Ramsey, I don't know if he's going to play or not with the risk. I think Grimsey is going to try to go, which is, you tip your cap to this dude and what he's doing in his 11th year. Everybody everybody you talk to the last couple of years at Pittsburgh when it comes to Jalen Ramsey, it's all about, man, this guy's spreading his wisdom. He's, you know, he's helping the younger guys out. He's trying to teach them, you know, everything that he understands and what he's learned over the over the years as a pro. And not to mention that his versatility, you know, he'll be up close to the line of scrimmage, you know, he'll play up there as a, as a guy that's going to be in run support. They'll blitz him, he'll play back in the deep half. He'll play out last week. I saw him playing the dime linebacker, manned up against a running back. So he's doing everything and if he plays through a broken wrist, again, kudos to him. Tell him my opinion and not talking yet to anybody over there, you know, when I get on the field, pregame, he's guys this, but for them to be willing to let Joey Porter go without knowing all the, you know, behind the scenes negotiations. I just think listening to Patrick Graham, when I had a one-on-one combo with him earlier in the week, they just kept going on and on about Dale and Ever. We all know him in college. Anybody who's watched Georgia, we know he's capable of big dude, six one, 196 pounds. He's like, man, his eyes were going, I was going through his personnel. When I got to Dale and Ever, he just was like, oh, so excited about him and Robert Spears Jennings, the safety that they got out of Oklahoma, out of Oklahoma. They think they hit on both of those rookies, but I think, maybe not tonight, but I think as time goes on, you're going to see more, more 23. And I'm speaking of Ever, get an opportunity to be into this defense and show what he can do. And remember, eventually to Sean Elliott, hopefully gets back. He's right now on the IRR. They're missing his communication in the backhand, but I think they're pretty happy with the versatility of the group. And the fact they're moving on from Porter, I think tells you about some of these young guys and what they think they can do with his defense. What was the status on 89% zone? Week one was 100%. And I know they ran a bunch last week. They're trying to keep those bangles, wide receivers in front of them, which they did. They gave up some, some like, you know, some stuff in front, but nothing over the top really. Yeah, a lot of zone early for Patrick. So Joey Porter, junior man, DB, right? Is that how he's doing? That's especially, yes. Yeah. Okay, so you might get up on guys, get your hands on guys, disrupt that the line of scrimmage. So trying to force, is that a circle and a square hole right there for him in that defense, if he's own defense, that he think potentially it wasn't a good fit for him with that defense as well. And maybe the Steelers thought that or you can make it work with anybody. No, you just don't let her real tell you don't let six one 200 pound four four corners walk out the door. But but if you've got this ever cat that just stepped in and just listening to her be six one 198 pounds. He ran four three nine at the combine. Okay. Yeah. And they're winning and they're playing good defense. They're seventh in the league. They're really good against the pass. See you later. Yeah, that is the final decision. And obviously there's no people that don't think that that should have been the move. But you start piecing things together. You can see how they landed on that decision. Jalen Ramsey has been fun to watch since the beginning, very physical. And then speaking of fun to watch before we move to college football, are you excited for the halftime performance tonight? Rock and roll, hall of fame and duck. Well, I've got six minutes to get back there and and try to eat a sandwich and get back. So I am I'm excited to hurry and sprint back to be able to be able to check out this performance for sure. I want you to want me. That'd be awesome. I need you to need me. I love you. Love me. That's them again. Okay. It's keep trick. I believe. Okay. I'm not 100% sure. No, it is cheap trick. Yes. That song is cheap trick. Yes, it is. Okay. Second. That is what you're hurry your ass up. Herby. Yeah. We're going to want to watch them. Yeah, I think they should do pretty magical things. Man, Oasis would have been crazy. Oh, my God. That would have been wise. Oasis would have been crazy. Where's Gallagher? I mean, I would have been insane. We had a whole brainstorm yesterday of what that could be whenever they announced a surprise halftime concert from a rock and roll hall of fame and duck. It is cheap trick. And I think they got at least a couple of bangers. I do. That all people love that song, for instance, reaches every demographic. Okay. Let's go to college ball. Shall we? Herby as college football has been cooking here early. Go ahead, Con man. Yeah. Herby looks like you got that sweet floor to blue on. So I'm going to ask you about Florida all the way up to number eight in the nation after beating down on Ole Miss. Is this the team? Kind of everyone's been pontificating about who's the next IU? Who's going to come back with coach to completely change the culture? Is that summer all? Should we expect Florida to now be in the conversation going forward with John Summer all being there? And should we also be talking about them winning the SEC and maybe the national championship now? It feels like we're heading in action. I think it'll be a good test, honestly. This weekend going to Missouri after a big win and everybody they moved up 13 spots in the polls. Everybody now is talking about them. You know, game day. I think we've talked about them every week. We've kind of been looking at this team, especially offensively. And it's like, okay, these guys got something going. Summer all is an incredible leader. Is he demonstrated in his last two stops as a head coach? And I think what we're seeing to me right now is a team that has been beaten down. They've had four of their last five years, have been losing seasons. And again, I think there is a proud of fan bases. I've ever come across in college football, but them to go through that for these players to go through that. Pretty challenging. And Summer all has infused, I think, a belief more than anything. And I think the offensive scheme that they're running, it is so much fun to watch what Buster Faulkner's doing with this scheme. It's very difficult to prepare for. But at this point, we know what they could do. They're going to score 50. I mean, they're going to score 45, 50 points a game. But now that they've going to deal with being the hunted, how would they deal with games like Atmiserie, no problem, throw your jersey out there, you're going to win. This is a, this is a mental, this is where we honestly, I think we'll learn more about Florida this weekend in a game like this against Missouri. Then we learned about them last week against Ole Miss. They caught Ole Miss at a good time. Their offense is unstoppable. They've got a quarterback right now in here in Phylo playing great. The ball guy could be the best player, one of the best players in the country. So there's a lot going for them right now. And yeah, I think, I have to believe, and I think that they're worthy of this. But this will be a good test form this week mentally to get over the hump and showing that they can deal with prosperity and a lot of paths on the back. Everything I've heard from Coach Summaryl is he is a hard-ass coach. It feels like that is his style. So these types of games that you're referring to Missouri this weekend, bring your own juice type stuff. I think they're kind of built for it. I think that is, I think he's probably excited to see what their culture is too. Because I think that is kind of his mindset that he wants them is like, hey, it doesn't matter. We need to go beat the hell out of these people. You talk about Jayden Baugh. He'll be joining us in about 20 minutes or so. Can't wait to catch up with him. Yeah, he had 1100 yards last year. Okay, did you know that? No. He already has 600 yards this year. I mean, he is on pace to do some fantastic record-breaking type stuff. And to your point, he might be the best player in all of ball. This guy cannot wait to tell him. Yeah, he is one of those backs that, of course, brings, as you see, the physicality. He's got tremendous balance. He's got incredible instincts and vision, patience. Then he's got burst to go along with it. And so I love, ask him about Buster Faulkner's system. What makes it so unique? Because like you said, over 1,000 yards a year ago, but he's on a whole different level right now. He's finding a lot more space to run. This system does a lot to affect the eyes of a defense. And he's the beneficiary. But I'd love to hear what he thinks about this system and what makes it so difficult on opposing defense is trying to get ready for him. Alright, Herbie's question right here. Buster Faulkner's system. I want to know what it is. You got 600 yards already, as opposed to best. It's going to be a 2,000 yard rusher. Yeah, that is an insane thing to think about for anybody. Congrats to him and congrats to some role seemingly flipping Florida quickly. Now let's not talk about 50 points of game. Okay. Let's not talk about flipping the program because it didn't have to happen. But let's talk about going back somewhere for the first time in a couple of decades. Ty has a question for you, Herbie. Yeah, Herbie. Hey, how excited are you to get back to Iowa City this weekend? Seeing all those clips of you 20 years ago, man, it's crazy how young you look. You really don't look that much older now, but 20 years is a long time. And also I've seen it in my mind's eye. I can visualize it. I think there is a path to it happening. But is there any realistic chance that Iowa can beat Ohio State this weekend? You know, it's funny. I'm so trained when something good happens for Iowa. I immediately think of what is your reaction? What was your reaction to that last second? Well, I wish we had a camera on you because that was, you know, you'd say typical Iowa, but it's like that plate. to me was like, oh my God, you know, they're going to get, they're going to get a playoff. Here we go in Ann Arbor again at the big house with the last second play. But just to see that execution, hey, Brown puts it on that back shoulder and they come away with a victory. Kind of vintage Iowa to be able to win in that environment and kind of again, 19 14 only Iowa can get it to 19 to 14 to have a chance to find a way to win. To answer your first question, we are absolutely thrilled. I remember when you guys had me go over to Buffalo to help unveil their new stadium and represent the Pat Mac to be sure I remember talking to you guys that day and we're kind of speculating about words game day going this week and that week and I said, man, week five guys, maybe we're in Iowa City, you know, maybe who knows if Clemson, if North Carolina loses to Clemson and that eliminates Notre Dame and North Carolina and who knows, maybe we end up at Iowa if they beat Michigan and here it is, man. So we are, the stars are aligned, we've missed being there. It's an awesome college town, Kenic Stadium, into the first quarter, wave into the children's hospital. I mean, it's one of our favorite places. It's sad that we haven't been there in whatever it's been 20 years or whatever it is. But we are grateful. We cannot wait. I know Pat's thrilled. I know you guys have been doing your whole show, the whole cruise coming out Friday. So we are looking forward to an awesome weekend in Iowa City. Get out, wait to get out there. I mean, the fact that tie is going to get a chance to experience a campus again. I love that for him, obviously. But also, I don't know if you've seen this and you're not the only one that automatically thinks of tie whenever something Iowa happens. I think a lot of people do that. Pat Anger, former team in a mine, former player for Coach Pagana, led the NFL and tackles with a broken foot. One season. I mean, an absolute dog through and through. Now the color commentator I believe for the Iowa broadcast team or whatever, he was asked who the celebrity guest picker should be and he said, "Tai Schmidt should do it. Tai Schmidt should be the guy that doesn't." He's the one that puts, he puts on for Iowa more than anybody else on a daily basis. And then others have now chimed in and said the same thing. I got a Stanford Steve sent me a text. He goes, "Should we not think about tie?" So I just want to let you know, every time you shout out tie about it, it's a big deal. We're not doing that. I don't think. I don't imagine. Yeah. The amount of. The amount of food. Maybe can you help with the kick? Yeah. We could have him block the kick. Why don't we have him block the kick this week? We're blocking it this week. I think who gets the ticket? We're blocking the freaking kick. I had enough. I thought about pitching that to Peyton, but then Peyton would be doing that to a Tennessee kid. Tai would be doing that to an Iowa kid. And I feel like the donation might go to the Children's Hospital too if there is that aspect of it. I don't feel good about that. It would have to be me or you blocking that thing going, "Yeah, right kids, they waived to you enough. Boom." Go ahead and block that thing. You know, I don't know if we need to do that. But yeah, good idea. I mean, part of that. Absolutely. Yeah. I agree. Got to have tie out there. Yeah. Just to go back to last week, it's like these guys, man. The liar. Yeah. Well, what the heck? That's the football. I never heard of the football. Do you kick it? You kicked them all? Here's what. Yeah. What are we doing here? Three of four. It's been makes. I wonder if they have like a group text immediately upon a guy being picked. He's like told by somebody, "Hey, you need to text these people to see what happens." And there's a group text, "Welcome. Congratulations. Here's the deal. Lie right now. You've never kicked a ball because if you lie, he's going to keep the money high." And then he had Peyton coming in and say, "This guy wouldn't lie to you, Pat." Yeah. Not here on Rocket Top. This guy would never lie to you. He would never do that. He's getting Billy Hollywood out there. He certainly did. I was thankful for him. You still got to make the kick, though. Now, on that note, I do think we have to make it a little bit more legit. Yeah. You know, I think there is something we got to do to kind of make it a little bit more realistic. You know, they have the money pressure, they have the crowd pressure. But I think we need a little bit more real, yeah, maybe Herbie's coming off the edge. Maybe if they lie to you. Yes. Put like a sensor in the ball. Yeah, if they kick it too hard, if they're too good, the ball explodes and they're falling. Are they allowed to pass the thing now? When the raffle, and then I've never kicked, and I let, because I know in the past, couldn't they do that? I think that rules say you're not allowed to do that anymore. The rules in the past had not said that specifically, so they. Because otherwise, if you knew something, you'd be like, "Okay, here, and I'll give you extra amount of dollars." Go kick this thing. Yeah, I'm not sure. To be honest, when the first person did, I was like pretty pumped up because I had read the rules that they were giving to everybody, and I'm like, "Oh, if this was me, and I wasn't kicked, or as soon as I'm picked, you kick it?" Yeah. We're doing it. 50% is a lot better than zero percent, you know, like if we're able to do this entire thing. So when they did that, I liked the hustle. I think this time, it's just all guys who are pretty good kicked. Who can kick? And we get a lot of people that are like, "How come not a lot of people?" But I get some people that send me messages saying, "How come you never let women kick you sexist?" Okay. That's obviously what it's said to me. It's a trolling. It's a ticket. They don't know that. Don't let that get into a way. 300 people that get there and say, "Yes, we'd like to be potential participants." They get a ticket. They get a raffle. Then that is called. Then that person, obviously, is selected. Those are the entire process. It gets a chance to kick it. So herbie and I are not just like, "You know what? Woman. Please." I don't think so. I don't think so. But there have been, I mean, bell sessions on a Georgia, she had Henry Silver kick for her. Alabama. Alabama. She had zero chance of making that. So I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it for a life experience. And I was like, so pumped to hear that. I'm like, "Hell, yeah. Let's go." And then Herbie steps up for her. We also had a kicker in a female kicker somewhere else. We've had three or four women pits, but these lads are getting out. These soccer players are getting out there early and they understand. They're doing a barefoot. They're kicking barefoot. Crazy. We'll be in charge of that. We're at the fall. You'll never give another penny away. And also, there are no Italians involved in the raffles. We've had raffles in our family for a million years, and it always went the way we wanted it. That he is not a part of it. We're running a legit raffle. Okay, I grew up in an Italian community. I understand what you're saying. That is not happening for the kick. First 300 get it, and it's pulled publicly, and then obviously a full celebration. We might add some things this weekend and keep it fresh. We can't wait to watch you tonight. Congrats on your new deal. You earned it. You're the man. Cheers, buddy. Hey, where's Peter? Peter in there? What? Yeah, he's right here. I took the week off. 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But then again, if it goes 13-10, we're all gonna say like, "Hey, I've seen your ball, what are we doing?" But both offenses flying high. I can't believe the Pittsburgh Steelers scored 30 points in game last week. - Hell yeah. - You're not the only one that can't believe that. Let's go to one half of the hammer, down. Cowboys, AP tone, Pittsburgh Steelers, not gonna be able to perform against the Browns on Thursday night, like history has told us is the case. - Yeah, that is what history would tell you, okay? Let me just look at the history a bit here. - Can I please do? - Steelers, oh and four against the Browns on Thursday night. - Oh, no! - Browns are 10 and two at home on Thursday night football. - Oh, no! - Browns nine straight at home since 2009 on Thursday night football. - Oh, no! - Steelers on a one and six run against Cleveland Browns on any day the week since 2019. And the last quarterback, not named Ben Rothsberger to win in Cleveland, Tommy Gunn, Tommy Maddox. - Oh, no! - But that was history, brother. That was history. - Okay. - History was playing Minecraft all the time. Okay? - That's true. - Big Mike McCarthy comes in. He's on a seven game win streak on Thursday night football. - Oh, yeah! - Aaron Rogers 13 and 6 on Thursday night football as well. So you can pull stats out of whatever. But yeah, maybe it's a new dawn of a new day tonight. - Okay, I like that. And obviously the new day would begin tomorrow. If it was to start this evening, but Thursday night football kicking off week four of the NFL season, we are so pumped that we have our coach. 37 years in football and the coaching profession. 19 in the NFL, 18 in college, our coach Chuck Pogano is here. (audience applauding) Thursday night football. Let's talk a little bit about Thursday night football. What like Mike McCarthy successful on Thursday night football? Some coaches not successful on Thursday night football. We talk about the plan, we talk about the strategy. Are you trying to hamper a dawn a little bit sort of things easier or how are Thursday nights treated for coaches mostly? - I think from a game plan standpoint, you try to carry over the things that you used the week prior, things that you didn't use. We have these menus, these playlists on offense and defense, and you're not gonna get a chance to call all those things. So what we always try to do is carry over things from the previous week so that we weren't installing a brand new game plan totally. There's gonna be some things obviously specific to to the Browns and the Steelers that you got to have up. Like, Harvey talked about the past rush of the Steelers and keeping Watson contained really the only way that maybe they can make some big plays down the field. So do that, get your team healthy. Get them arrested. You don't practice. You don't put pads on. You do mostly walkthroughs. You may run them later in the week like on Wednesday, do some full-speed stuff. And then it's just, you against that, dude. Mind over matter. Who's going to man up? Who's going to will up? Who's going to bring it that night? And who's going to have the mini-bye afterwards happy? And who's going to be miserable for an extra set of days while watching everybody else play? Joining us now, live from an attic in Ohio, is a man who is former president of Ohio, pumped about prime time at Ohio. I think he's going to go shake some hands, actually. Oh, maybe run for governor. Really, hey. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, future politician, AJ Hall. Yeah, hall of gold. Thank you for your service. Seems like something I would be really good at. I think I might do that. OK. Say it again. Hey, Mike Tom, Mike Tom, with Minecraft. Stop shaming the dude. We want to hear what these coaches are like, what the person now, what they like to do. All of a sudden, the guy tells you his 12-year plan where he's building a magnificent city, and everyone shaming him and saying, that's why you lost games. No, we said he was a winning coach. We were saying it all the same. He had a Hall of Famer. That's what we were saying about him. Yeah, and then Tony and all his buddies go together and put the stats from when he started playing to win, you know, in their records. I have no buddies. Yeah, OK. So Tony doesn't have a team working for him, but I do understand what you were saying. There was some pessimism amongst the insers who were probably, you know, most recently done with the Tom Linnara with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Because of the lack of success in the playoffs, and lack of Super Bowls, and lack of things that take you over the top, you know, just right over the top. So I think insers are looking for more reasons, potentially, and especially when they're presented with something that could have taken 24,800-- 500. 500. 500. That's a lot of time doing something that isn't your job, which I think a lot of insers are pointing out. Now, Todd Haley, who worked in the building alongside Coach Tom Linn, he's come out and responded. I think probably after hearing many people talk just like AJ, this Minecraft that was made by Coach Tom Linn makes him even more impressive. I worked for the great head coach for six years, and it wasn't a day that I wasn't astounded at how prepared he was to prepare the Steelers. I don't know if he ever slept. Now, I don't know if he's expecting a retweet from Minecraft to Steelers. Coach Tom Linn or Jay Bailey, but just know that we gave it to you, Coach Todd Haley, 'cause we obviously love the way he called football games and everything that he has done in the football universe. So he said it didn't hold him back from being a coach. Obviously, it didn't ever able to win, but I think a lot of people were saying maybe we nap, though, like something, you know, maybe hang, hang family, but a lot of coaches say they golf. So instead of golfing, he's out there on the five smoothness. Yeah, on the five sensitivity with his family, with his sons. Also, that was kind of the other angle, like, hey, you wanna hang out with your family? Sure, like Bill Boll checking his sons, they coach form with them. Mike Talman, he's playing Minecraft with them. I don't know, I am kind of torn with it, but. That's a lot of time, a lot of time. You guys are unbelievable at it. Let's go back to Nick Maraudo, Pittsburgh Steelers fan. He's normally very reasonable about this type of thing. I just wanted to point out to AJ that you should be very thankful that Mike Talman discovered Minecraft because you might not have a Super Bowl ring on that big fat mangled finger. Yours, if Mike wasn't playing, I came, okay? I checked the stats, Nick. I think it didn't start till after like 2012, but I believe we won the Super Bowl against them before that. So you actually-- So we beat him back in his prime when he wasn't playing. That's you saying that? Yeah. That was not you. So that he used it. So is that more impressive? Is that even more impressive? He hadn't found Minecraft yet? You tell us. What are you saying? AJ was the guy. No, I don't think it is. I think it's less impressive because once he found Minecraft it opened his brain up to other ways of thinking. He's shutting off his football brain. That in turn makes him a better coach. I mean, no wonder they didn't change the calls on defense for so long. He couldn't come up with any different ones. The only thing you're-- We don't think he could come up with any different ones. He had different shades in the speakeas of bricks. That's where all the brain creativity was going. It sounds like where's the new aquarium going? So the Mace Tomlin family of Mike Tomlin has responded a couple to a couple different things. Here's his first one of people attacking his sensitivity on negative five. And this is after 12 years. Imagine how painstaking this was to watch at the beginning. Oh, hilarious. He's putting bricks down, right? Yeah. That. Forever. That. Still, so maybe not 24,000 hours, because that's just taking into account like if you're able to operate a system, which I'm not able to do. I assume he wasn't able to at the beginning. So maybe we're pushing maybe 30,000-- Yeah, I think so, can't. --and this entire thing. Mace Tomlin also followed up saying, I'm seeing a lot of people saying they want to live in Mike Tomlin's Minecraft city. What I'm not seeing is anyone asking what happened to the villagers that used to live there. What is that? What is that? They had a community. We'll have to learn more maybe in the next episode. He's coaching too much. He wasn't taking care of the city. So all the villagers left. The people are-- I got my family. I got Steelers family. I don't have time for this family. Do people live in these cities? Is that what happens? I don't know, because Bill kind of laid it out about how there's a creative-- Is it like Roller Coaster Tycoon? Yeah, I'm not sure. Because Sims? Yeah, Sims situation. But there's a theme park back in the day used to do that. You'd build, like, if you ever do that on an old school computer. And then people would come, and you have to build bathrooms or baths or all that. Roller Coaster Tycoon. Yeah, I had a park recently. Is that what this is like? We don't know. You can talk to their own people. But Bill came on and said something about fighting a semi-gordon, all kind of stuff. Like, what was that part of mine? Creeper, mostly. The elder dragon. Yeah, and that's the campaign of the game that people play. Minecraft is just for the record, like, probably the most successful or one of the most successful selling video games of all time. They're making movies about it now. I mean, it's not bad in DOD. I think it is. Did the cults have a schedule revealed they had to get pulled down because of Minecraft? Or was that something else? Yeah, but they weren't allowed to use it. It turns out some other team licensed that, you know, so, yeah, I think Minecraft's got a pretty good little business going. Yeah. They got head coaches in the NFL locked in for 12 years. Locked in. That's my game. That's a good game. Any freebies come through that door yet? Look at me. The munchies are talking about Minecraft. Right now you're talking about? I'm expecting AWS to show up any second. He's going to live with me. Nice. Bring it in. Slow down. Slow down, old man. Know what that stands for. You've done it, old man. It was on Webster. It was on Webster. Yeah, very nice. Yeah, we do know. How good do you feel about yourself dropping that little? Here are the creepers that can get you in this Minecraft. That could be good. Oh, shit. I'll share a lot of varieties. Think about how many of these Tom and just block it absolutely murdered. Yeah. Those lights off the head. Do they just tear down what you built? So what do they do? Yeah. They destroy your home, your village. Interesting. They try to attack you. Please carry it. They all look like dons, but I'm happy that they do kind of get at least B. World Cup trophies. As the blocks in them. Yeah, I agree. Now, the characters look like dogs. Blocked by a block, you know what I'm saying? I might get into Minecraft now that I know what Tom and was doing. Sure you do. Wow. It's definitely up your alley. Who's that coach to the NFL? Let's talk about some of the storylines from this past weekend in a fashion that we've been doing for the last few weeks that we have really enjoyed. Now, there's been a couple of these things that we've seen before, but they haven't been broken down through the eyes of a man who's been there done now with everything in football. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for-- What the Chuck with Chuck Pogano? Hey, what happened this past weekend ball that made you go? What the Chuck's going on out here in? Is this Chuck in football or what are we doing around here? You know, Pat and the boys, situational football, we talk about a lot, right? A lot, yes. And first down, second down, your run game, your first second down, past game, all this stuff. There's a bunch of sparring going on in these games. But what's the most important part about these games? There's going to be five or six plays, right? Are they going to determine the outcome? We don't know when those are going to occur, right? And the play don't care who makes it. Definitely not. Just play hard. All right, and the ball will find you. Play don't care who makes it. So let's go to the Cowboys we've had. We've talked about this, had no-- We're Shoddy fans, right? We love Shoddy. Higher Shoddy, back in the day. Shoddy coast our quarterbacks. Shoddy's one hell of a coach. He's a football lifer. His dad Marty Legendary, right? Guy knows ball. But the thing that I question is we all have these game managers, OK? And analytics people that we got up in the box. And they're helping you, all right, with this stuff. And they're guiding you through with timeouts, when to go for it on fourth down. There's all kind of books. So I know everybody talked about calling a timeout after the scramble on second down, all right? Get it down to seven seconds. So that third down play, you've got the field goal basically in the bag, right? Get it down to third down play. This one right here was seven seconds to go in the game. Shoddy took accountability for all this stuff, which we all love, right, owning it, right? Jerry was asking, I don't know what the chuck was thinking, what the chuck you're doing, all right? But why didn't we give him a front shot? The guy was wide open right there. So he said, hey, I overcoach, Dak. Dak's been playing for how long? Long time. So Dak, I don't know what the chuck, what the chuck, Dak was talking about right here. Just throw it to his front. Look at how high Nate is. He's thinking back shoulder, because they just tried the back shoulder, right? So he's playing back pylon. This front pylon's right there. So frickin' Pickens thinking, what the chuck? Just throw me to ball right there. We got to walk off, right? That's what we're trying to do. What we're trying to do. Then we go to the kickoff. - No sense. - And. Stop it right there Pat You're a special team savant, right? You know special teams as good as anybody Let's just say we're gonna kick the ball to the returner. Mm-hmm We've got over time in the bag, right? Yeah, so the last thing you we're gonna tell the returner is hey You do everything within your power to try to go score. Are we telling them that? No? Protect what? Yeah, protect the ball kick the ball to this returner. He's not kick it down the middle of the field Because you bring all 10 cover guys into play hold your leverage, right? That guy's gonna be secure in the ball He's not trying to hit a home run and and if nothing's there He's gonna go down and then we're going to overtime and you're gonna bleed every second But now we kick it here and we give them the ball at the 35 yard line No seconds run off the clock. Yeah, zero seconds run off the clock because we're thinking okay Because every head coach would be saying to defensive coach like you mean to tell me we do not have a defensive call That can keep these guys from going 30 yards down the field and getting the field goal range You mean you mean to tell me we don't have a chucking defensive call that would stop this play right here What is the call? I would say it was the call. They're in robber So what happens here stop it right there? They're in robber the safety that just jumped mark Andrews at the minus 45 yard line What are we doing? Why is he jumping that dude? It's not a normal robber where you cut this guy It's third and seventh and you go take a guy away at the stick the stick is 30 yards down the field where the goal line Where the field goal line to make is it's way back there then we're disguising run it back please I don't know what chuck 11's doing. He's gonna disguise in this in this situation and he's running to this He's running a chuck and center field like where's he going? He should be he should be at 40 yards sitting their flat footed just reading the quarterback and breaking downhill on the chuck and throw And why are we rushing four guys? Like if you're gonna rush Outnumber bring six get everybody back at the at that 35 yard line All right where that line to make is that 40 yard line and force the ball out of this guy's hands right now and break up Make the tackle game over. They don't have any time out right? But we're gonna play right you know Does he have to get the ball out of his hands if they want any chance on this? Yeah, he does so do you need to rush anybody? There was a play back in the day where the Houston Texans were gonna beat the New Orleans Saints and they had seven seconds left And all they needed was like 12 yards and one guy everybody was pressed All right, and one guy was off guess where they threw the ball to the guy that was off he caught the ball He fell down he called time out and they kicked a game winner So the next year what we put in we put in a call called Saints and we didn't rush anybody Because they had to get the ball out of their hand But we doubled every single receiver and drop defensive lineman and the ball had to come out so that they didn't have an Opportunity to do this. I know Jay Mac, you know talked about double robber Rush three sit two guys back there on that line to make for the field goal rush rush three play outside Levers you protect the sideline and they can't stop the clock and then those guys are just sitting their flatfoot and breaking on the ball In this entire situation made you say what the church Title loop hits the kick that's all she wrote we'll get back to that we have a guest joining us right now Who is on pace to potentially win? Heisman as a non-quarter bag ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who already has 600 yards rushing on the season had 700 last year now he is the face of an entirely rebuilt re-imagined Florida Gators team that it's going to come to your town and run your ass over ladies and gentlemen running back jaden ball How you doing bro? I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations on the incredible start for you and your team I had Kirk Herb Street on earlier because he's calling tonight's Thursday night football game And he had a question for you do you mind if I get that out of the way here? Oh yeah really cool look by whatever you want right now it looks awesome Yeah no problem no problem. Herb he wants to know what is it about Buster Faulkner's system that has really made you thrive in the offense Obviously he get off to such a hot start versus maybe what you're running before. Is this system feel like home or does this system feel like home for you? And why do you think the boys have rallied so much here? Honestly, I just feel like it goes from the person who's coaching because Buster is a guy who's gonna demand so much out of you He wants the best for you and If you can't fit in the offense, it's more of a you In the reason I said it is because it's so friendly. You see follow. He's trying to get the ball to Anybody you know the only field who's open and with him Doing that it makes it a lot easier for me, you know Ball on they block their butts off each and every week and they Do that by pressing hard and that's what Coach Buster demands so much for us, but yes, I could say that this offense is definitely like comfortable for me And not just you it sounds like it sounds like everybody you were brought to Florida by Napier Plenty of your stars are and obviously it's his first year of summer all coming in as your head coach Can you tell me a little bit about him Verse maybe what you're expecting as a head coach in college football because he's dunking on Dan or love ski on the internet He's given speeches buried in folks. He's talking about we need to go kick their ass in 2026 he feels like a great head coach. Can you tell me your expectations and what it has been like thus far? Oh, yeah, I didn't too much expect it the way his energy is Coastal Mara came in our first meeting and the first meeting he just came in with a bunch of energy and you know From a guy who's coaching two teams at the time You one thing he will come in with that much energy and that much excitement to just coach us and With him doing that he came in and he said a standard for just no Not just the football program the whole program in general and I feel like it didn't change so much because I feel that we're closer with The basketball team we're close with the baseball we close with everybody and it just trigger down and His his somewhat outlook on what floor should be like is Been being proved and we have a long way to go to note just Set this dinner for like the world to understand that we're going to be back and we're back What was the messaging going into Ole Miss game because obviously the conversation outside was Ole Miss just had a huge win over LSU Trinidad chamblis is unguardable unstoppable no matter who he's playing Does coach summer all utilize all that while motivating you guys or like what is his messaging and then my last question before the boys have one I guess you can kind of add this in playing Missouri this weekend going to be a vastly different hype machine going in there What is his messaging do for that this particular game as well? It's the same message that we had in going to Ole Miss it's all about us. It's never about them Initially is just focus on know what we need to do to go out there and get the And honestly what I can say, you know, I try to write it in my book each and every day focus on us and whatever we need to do to win again Self accountability is a crazy thing go ahead AJ. It really works. It seems like every successful human on earth has accountability to oneself I love that that is still being proven as a success story in college football go ahead AJ Yeah, Jayden and going to that like handle and success we we talk about a lot of times It's tough handle and success because there's so you know so much more comes your way and there is distractions and all that stuff I guess how do you guys do that? I we understand that you came in with high expectations Maybe not outside from the outside looking in they didn't expect you guys to be this good But I guess that's something you guys think about or talk about and is practice actually harder now probably than it was week one because you guys have been winning Oh, yeah, it's always harder coach dim always on our head regardless of how the game looked It's one thing like at every game my mind said just switch to bloody Tuesday And that's one of the hardest practice we you know, we're gonna have I don't too much think about the next you know The next game I be more focused on how are we gonna practice and prepare for that Tuesday because That's what we're gonna get the best improvement out of Yeah, our bodies are gonna be tired, but are we able to push through things and push through you know Our body's being that tire or you know, uh, are we preparing the right way to you know Practice at a high pace and if I feel I feel that if we could do that each week we're going to be able to you know play with anybody in the country Tell me about bloody Tuesdays Kirby smart does this down in Georgia. I assume there's multiple coaches that do this they I think Kirby credited it for being the reason why the culture is the culture sounds like you as soon as the game's over I'm looking to bloody Tuesday is what I'm thinking about so this is full offense versus defense ones on ones We're full go right now. Is that what happens and who's been winning on bloody Tuesdays the over the day I mean okay, so bloody Tuesdays is more of very very fast pace. Yeah, you're gonna have your your periods where We're going against the war's defense and the it's the war's defense war's office and we're just all out But it's not where we're just trying to kill each other, but it's it's going to be very physical and it's going to be a high pace Um, I personally love it because it just shows That we can fight through anything and be able to set ourselves up for something better and it shows more improvement for us You bleed ever on bloody Tuesday. You're good. You know, no, no, I'm not good. I'm good I would like to see, you know, the list of who was actually bleeding. I like that the culture that was our already bought in on this just a few weeks into the entire regime. Now, you're not the only one obviously being able to tote the rock very well. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Jane, your teammate, Duke Clark also went over a hundred versus Ole Miss on the ground. How is that relationship and how are you two in this distribution of carries? And how does that all work within the offensive room and stuff like that? Well, that's what you ran up yesterday. Me and him was actually watching him together at our crib. Man, Duke is like, that's like my little brother, honestly. I teach him a lot of things and I also learn a lot of things from him as well. Just because we care about the game so much and it's not just him in our room. I feel that each back in our room could go do something great. Like if you look at me, you look at Duke, then you got to go down to look at every prior. You got to look at one in my room or you got to look at a fire in Louis. It's like each and every person in our room could go do some remarkable things. And I honestly was so proud and every time he ran the bar, I had my hands up. Because I thought he was going to score every chance he got. But I feel like our whole room in general is just very loving, caring. And we, you know, it's never like no hatred in our room. We want to see everybody win. Well, it sounds like that's what Summer Roll wants all in Florida to be like. You know, I want everybody to win out there. I like that his messaging is that we're all gators. We're all gators, right? They were all. I like that. And then they also, hey, we're going to we need to kick the shit out of this now. That is his messaging, right? Like he wants you guys to clearly be the tougher football team than the other team on the field, right? Right. Always. Yeah. I love that. That it feels like that team always ends up doing very well. The team that wants to be tougher than the other team tries to be tougher, trains to be tougher than the other team inevitably wins because in the fourth quarter when it's late, you know, in the back of your mind, we're tougher than this team, which matters in football, especially in a physical, I like to hear that out of you and out of Summer Roll. Let's talk about the swamp though. I haven't had a chance to go down there and experience it yet, hoping sometime go ahead time. Yeah. Jayden, you know, growing up and like when some of us were in college, the swamp was such a clear cut home field advantage for Florida. And obviously the last couple years, you know, it hasn't been quite the same when you guys have kind of been trying to get back there. But this year, it feels like it, you know, it's right back to where it was when Tibo was playing there. Chris Leak or, you know, you name it. How big of an advantage is that and does it feel like, you know, when you guys are playing at home, like if it's much different this year than it has been in years past? Well, yeah, honestly, I can say the swamp has always been the swamp. It was if you look at it, if you ever come in there, if we were down, if we were up, they were all going to be in there. Each family is going to be in there still cheering us on regardless of the outcome of the game. I could definitely say that if you were ever to come in the swamp, it's going to be a movie. And a lot of people don't really understand that just because, you know, they're looking at it on TV. But being able to come in the swamp, like just that even the gator walk is just different. You just feel different. Like you feel like a, like on, I can't, it's not just like a cloud over your head that you just know, like, oh man, it's going to be, it's going to be trouble here if you are on the opposite side. Congratulations to you being a massive piece of Florida being all the way back. Not that you were ever gone, but you get what I'm saying. We can't wait to watch you the rest of the way. Good luck and thank you for taking time. I think you're right. So we got two sunroofs in that thing. You've earned it all, brother, good luck, Jayden Vaughn. That is a part of it though. That is a huge piece of these modern day college athletes is like they've had to be, they've been forced to deal with adult money at a very young age, like adult money, super adult money, which comes with a lot of adult pressures, taking care of your people. What are you doing with your money? How do you spend your money? Looks like the L-Rap is doing a great job, a phenomenal workout back to the lat. Straight out the rarem trucks you have been doing great. Don't get down on yourself. We're on to the next play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember, remember, remember. Hi. Hey, 60 minutes all you got. Don't judge. Ain't that right? Next play. Absolutely. Next play, don't judge. We'll judge at the end. You'll get mocked and ridiculed for that. Certainly. At some point, after the show, but right now, next play, way to bounce back with the ram. But that is something I think they've been forced to deal with since they're like teenagers. And not that it hasn't been happening for some people allegedly behind closed doors and under the table and everything like that. But these dudes are being, I mean, there's a million-dollar softball pitcher down there. These younger generation of athletes are now like, hey, you come from next to nothing. Here's a million dollars. Good luck. You know? And it's like, I have a whole community, I have a family. My family's never seen this type of money before. Oh, here comes somebody who really has my best interest in mind, a financial person. Hey, well, you should see what I can do that. Do the drawing board that old buddy did on hard knocks. Give me this. Give me this. And it's like, there's so many decisions that have to be made that are so long-term repercussion decisions. Let alone agents, what percentage are they taking, what deals are real. It's like, these guys haven't to go through this shit. As teenagers, guys and girls haven't to go through this as teenagers and these families haven't to go through it. There has to be a maturity process that comes alongside of that that will benefit them in the long run. But I think in the meantime, that's a lot of pressure on these young kids. Well, I'm being able to handle it. That's something that the pros are looking at. I feel like I came on and talked about how like, hey, you know a lot more about some of these college kids because of the fact that they've had a bunch of money. So being responsible and knowing exactly what you're doing doesn't just benefit right away. Of course, that does. You keep your circle tight and everything. But in the long run, it's going to be because some of these NFL teams, if you have a bunch of people and you're kind of very frugal with your money, there's two ways to look at it. Like, one, yes, he's taking care of people, but two, he's not really thinking about it. And there's too many people that are out there taking advantage of him. Whereas if you do, you know, know what you're doing and look after the, the right things, then those NFL teams are going to know that and see that. Well, and I think in college, too, like just like the car situation, for example, like in the NFL, you know, if guys do whatever you get shit online for fantasy, you know, I lost my belt, but the large majority of like fans, like they would never say shit to an NFL player to their face. You know, like, that's never happening. Like, you pull up on campus driving like something a nice car and you had a shitty game on Saturday, like, dipshit college kids will egg your car, do what you know what I mean? Like, you're dealing with a lot more of that. You still have to go to class. I mean, who knows? A lot of these kids are probably online, but like you're, you're eating that a lot more day in and day out than than people in the NFL probably are. How many horror stories did we see with adults? Yes. I mean, I got 30, 31, 32 year old grown men coming into my office, closing the door and break down in tears and tell me that somebody just took them for everything they had. I got stories of guys coming and saying like, how come you need 30 tickets in like 15 hotel rooms for the road? Because I've got people like coming to me and saying, hey, this guy's got like, what is that? You guys got like, like, 50,000 dollars. I got family. I got friends. And we used to sit them down and say, hey, listen, like, you're making a ton of money. You have to ask yourself this question. Are these people going to be around when you don't have any? Like if you give this all away and you have zero, all your, all your guys, all the guys at home you grew up with, like, are they going to be around? And I'm telling you, the answer is no. They're going to go to the, they're going to go to the next dude. So the. It's hard to, it's much harder to do than say, you know, like, no, because they grow up with these people, community, family, I mean, everything though. It's just like, you know, there's, I mean, I can talk about myself as somebody who felt obligated to, like, help and give back to, like, everybody. And it's like, I didn't get the pressure from people to, like, hey, I need this. But I got pitched ideas. I get, hey, this is a, this needs a cause. This needs a cause. This is happening. This is happening. And it's like, I'm just like a tiny part of that, let alone what happens other places. It's like a lot easier to, you know, say, hey, in theory, you should cut these people out, then to actually cut them out, because there's like some real legitimate fears, I think, that some people turn in their back on their community and how they're, I mean, it's, uh. We know people that actually took their family out of certain places. They had to get them out, because they couldn't go back anymore. Exactly. Because they weren't giving it up. They're not giving it. And they're like, really? Oh, you're going to become that dude, huh? Yeah. Sell out. You've changed. Yeah. Hundreds are a lot of that. And then we used to tell them, you got to set boundaries. But get a financial guy. Get somebody to be the bad guy. So when they call an ass, hey, okay, give my guy a call, he'll let you know what we can give and how we can do it. And then he'll get them on the phone and say, "Look, all our money's tied up," or whatever it is, and let him be the bad guy so you don't have to be that person. Yeah, it's a tough thing to deal with. We obviously, you tell that story, me and AJ been in the locker room. We've seen guys. I mean, I came back from my second year. I think I had like 2,500 bucks in a bank account, 'cause I had a hell of an offseason. If I did not make the team that year, I would obviously be trying to figure out what plan B was at that time. So that was, that's me, my first time getting money. I'm 22 years old. We just got to the Super Bowl. It's like, I can go to where? Everywhere. Wherever you want. Hull. I watch Wild On Brookburg. There's a couple places I would like to go see. Great. You know? I would like to go see these things. And then you know, you talk to yourself like, well, you shouldn't spend the money though. You shouldn't do this money. You know what I'm saying? But what do I make the money for them? You know? I've always wanted to do this, never had the opportunity. Now I do. Who would I be to say no to this situation? And then that just starts rolling. And then all of a sudden, it's like, this is the biggest training camp of my life here. You know, I need to figure this one out, but that's me personally, my story. That's why every time I see these 18-year-olds, 17-year-olds, hey, this kid has been given six million bucks. It's like, who's around them? Oh, this is the first time anybody around has had anyway. It's like, oh, that's a lot of pressure to be putting on these teenagers to decide where it goes, how it goes, who gets what, when it gets what, and it's like it seemingly has gone much better than I think we are maybe painting the worst-case scenario picture, but I do think it is helping a long-term deal with everything. Hopefully that 80% or 70% absolutely bankrupt professional athlete thing doesn't continue, because that was alarming there for a while, very alarming. Which is why I'm happy for any ex-player that has a profession or job that they're able to take care of themselves. It's why I'm happy for them, you know? Yeah. Happy for them to not go bankrupt. Some people are just always miserable. It does feel like that. I've run into all of them, and they kind of make me miserable, which is what they miserable as companies. They go, and that's what they say. But I don't know if they just love company, or that's just the only way they are. And then, because of how they are, other people get miserable. Misery needs misery. Both. I think it breeds. Breeds. I think it's company, right? They always say it loves company. We're just talking about your ears, you old man. Hey, watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. That's the only thing you can really do is watch mouth. You're a man. You say, "Chucko." You did say "Chucko." What? What? Misery loves company, right, guys? That's what they say. I've heard that in time or two. I'll tell you what. You're to go. AJ, that you're just respecting this building. I don't get it, Chuck. I don't get it. It's a new life. Positively breeds positivity, though. I think that attracts positive people, attract other positive people. Osmosis. I do believe positive vibes Osmosis to others. And I don't think misery loves anything. So that's why I think that particular one might not be right. I think they just kind of infect, you know? I think misery like infects others with misery. But we can't let it get us down. No. No, we can't. No, we can't. You're out of your will. I kind of been having, though. It's been a lot. It's been bringing me to-- But hey, we got ball. We got life. We don't just only have those two things. We also have massive time for MLB. Yeah. Massive time for NHL. Let's start with MLB wild card. Because I've been seeing a lot of celebrations in locker rooms. And I love them every single time. Ty, I felt like a pretty massive day and night last, yesterday for MLB. Yeah, we had games at the same time. Same teams played at the same times early. So in the first game, Philly's Braves. Another just absolutely incredible game. Late Bryce Harper, who moved to Outfield in this game. He botches a fly ball. And it allows the Braves to take a lead. And you're kind of thinking, oh, boy. Did the Philly's just kind of trick this one off? They need to win today. He redeems himself later. Couch Whorber goes yard. He goes yard right after that. And then Alec Boom later in extra innings. He gets a base hit. And the Philly's beat the Braves. So that is the only game three. All of the other wild card games ended last night. You talk about the celebrations in the locker room. Once again, Munitaka, America. He's just-- he's that dude. If you can get a microphone in front of this guy, it doesn't matter if you can understand what he says he doesn't care. I don't know if we have the audio on this. Go back to him and get this one run to your audio. Yeah, just listen to this. [INTERPOSING VOICES] God bless you. Thank you so much. I wish we would also have the part where he goes hungover. Yeah. And she goes tomorrow. He goes yesterday. Yeah. No, tomorrow. That'll be English. And then he points at his transfer. He's drunk. Yeah. He's unbelievable. Just the joy that sports fans think about that. Guy can't even speak the same language as a lot of the people in the locker room. Or us as sports fans. And we are all in on him. And the entire team is running around. That's why sports are the greatest thing on earth. I have a question for you. Because baseball does it right. When they clinch the playoffs. When they clinch the vision. There's a party in the locker room. When they win a playoff series of the party in the locker room. You guys didn't tarp off the locker room and squirt beer everywhere after every single playoff win in the football in NFL. Do you? No. Is this every single playoff win? Oh, yeah. Every single series. Every series. Yeah. So not every single playoff win. Every single series win. I was never a part of a big spring locker room. I don't think. Were you in? No, I was. Hey, you enjoy this. 24-hour rule. Go home and enjoy this. But we haven't done shit yet. Yeah. That is. You'll stop every single playoff. AJ, do you guys do sprayin? I know the XFL. Remember the XFL. Yeah. Big spray. Let's do the thing. Yep. I don't, maybe I've seen a Super Bowl celebration where they're spraying. I've never been a part of a spraying the locker room celebration. I have not even, yeah, even post Super Bowl. There was not like a, it wasn't tarped off. There wasn't like champagne spray situation. I mean, guys are exhausted obviously. But in your eye, like, I don't want that shit all over me. I think it's our view. But for baseball, it's perfect. Yeah. I hope they continue to do that. And I love the Chicago White Sox team. Getting a dub, because Debro came on the other day and he said, I kind of like, I got some cheese on actually the White Sox to steal one against Houston. That ends up being right. He was wrong about a couple other things. But at baseball, he's been delivering in a massive way and the celebrations are spectacular. Yeah. And the White Sox have stunk for a really long time. They didn't want to play off game in over a thousand days. And for Murakami especially. But you go back to before the season started. You know, he was getting a lot of comparisons. Like, hey, this guy's the next great-chap and he's player. And then right after he got posted, teams were kind of like, actually, this guy kind of stinks. He's not going to be able to hit Major League pitching. And that's why he wound up with the White Sox. I think a lot of people assumed, hey, Dodgers, Yankees, you know, like the usual suspects would sign him. They didn't think he would be very good. The White Sox were kind of the only team who gave him an opportunity. He's obviously an all-star. He's one of the faces of the playoffs. And no one would have thought that the White Sox would have been the team from Chicago to make it to the playoffs. The Cubs again last night after an unbelievable season. Peacrow Armstrong is probably going to win the MVP. But this Padre is team. We talked about it a little bit with D-RO yesterday. They have a serious home field advantage in San Diego. You can hear it in one of the videos. They have a pinch hitter Gavin Sheets come up in the fourth inning. The entire crowd is chanting holy sheets, holy sheets, holy sheets. He hits a home run after they do that. Just unbelievable scenes. Holy sheets, holy sheets. And then yeah, he hit a massive bomb. Pinch it. It was only at bat of the game. And then that's the other thing with the Padre as we talked about with D-RO. If they can get a leak, they have Mason Miller. They have one of the best bullpins in baseball. And then lastly, the Yankees embarrass the Red Sox again. Beat the shit out of them again. And so now it's all business with the Yankees. They're moving on to the race. Okay, I heard there was another pitching thing with the Red Sox. We're using data analytics. I saw totally for four innings. Your ace only went five innings. And then it all completely unravel after that. How come there's so much chatter about pulling the ace so early? And why are we doing that? Yeah, I don't know. Basically, the same exact thing happened in immediately after the game. They asked the players about it. Some guys refused to respond. The pitcher said like, yeah, I would have liked to see the lineup one more time. So who knows? Ty said Chad Tracy, the interim manager now. Full time manager because of how good a job that he did. I'm basically a little in over his keys, I believe it's how it was referred to. Huge bummer. It was great season. It was really fun. This is the only reason you kind of show up though. It's for the playoffs. And I mean, they lost a combined, I think 17 to two. So it wasn't really that fun when it comes to the baseball season. But hey, look, we figured it out. We're on the next year. We're going to have our starters pitch a little more. And I mean, Tyles mentioned it. Are you? I don't think you are. I think you are a team that's not going to have your pick. Maybe Mitt. Well, we're going to have to find out. And I've been waiting with Bated Brust until, you know, opening day in April. Okay. It wasn't just MLB wildcard yesterday with the massive implications. I don't know if you know this. 84 games for hockey this year. AJ Hawk. Yep. Added to. I don't know if you saw this. Pittsburgh Penguins won by a touchdown and extra points. Oh, boy. I didn't notice that much. Kevin, nothing. Pittsburgh Penguins beat the Philadelphia Flyers in Philadelphia. Sydney Crosby. It's going to have an apple. Oh, first goal gets an apple. No problem. How you doing? Keep it moving in year 22. My God. Now, the Pittsburgh Penguins obviously a little bit older squad. There's Tanger with a positive reflection and another goal. It's up one, nothing about to become two, then three, then four, then five, then six, then seven. Nothing. It's hard to do in hockey. Yeah. Obviously, even on opening night, but depends absolutely slaughter the flyers. Congratulations to us being awesome. Now, can the old lads survive two more games being added to the regular season? In 84 games, we shall see. I appreciate that for us. Nick, there was a couple other games that took place last night as well as TNT. I believe started their NHL slate. Any other notables? A McKinnon, I see what absolutely crazy Nick. Yeah, Nate McKinnon put on a show. He had two goals and got into a scrap. He's not known for his fighting ability, but he threw down and stuck up for his teammates. And it was pretty good tilt. McKinnon, obviously, one of the best players in all of hockey, Nathan. He is a Canadian. He's best friends with Sydney Crosby, and he put the. Wow, this is my first time seeing the fight. He had two goals. I knew he had a big one. We kind of just absolutely killed that. Watch the helmet toss. It makes it so much cooler. Six, four, third period here. Get the hell out of here. McKinnon, not known as Scrapper Big, though. The avalanche team is just. Holy shit. With a slash. Okay. Hey, I don't like that. Is this what you want to do right now? Yeah, get the hell out of here. Alright, let's do it out of here. How about this lad? I'm better at hockey than you, and you're about to find out very quickly. I'm better for you than you, too. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He goes from. for the shirt or the sweater bang guy. I think guy quits there says I'm going down to the ice and this thing and McKinnon says that's all you're what if he gets into 84 fights. He might be good. He's on pace for 84 fights this season and on pace for 168 goals. McKinnon might break all the recognition. Look out how Gordy, everything that you did, McKinnon might be doing all season long. Any other games last night naked, any other notable outcomes? Yeah, Toronto got a win. They lost opening night and then they played back the back so they played again last night at home against New York Islanders and they got a two to one win. Flyers have another game tonight, I believe they're traveling up to like New Jersey or something as it was seven. Nothing. I heard the commentators go. Flyers are back on it tomorrow. It's a good luck. What a terrible start to an 84 game run and then well tonight we have hockey across the board. It's easier to watch because ESPN and YouTube TV have a deal. Go ahead, comment. I've been able to link them together. So all the hockey games we know are typically on ESPN. I think there is one on Amazon tonight, Calgary versus the Kraken. But because of that, just the multi view, it's so much better of an experience. You can watch them all. That's the reason I was able to watch Gavin McKinnon opening night because you can watch him through the YouTube TV if you connect him with the ESPN. God. Four bucks. Game changes. The best. The best. How come some of my devices, phone, iPad, TV, I do it all, I don't do the laptop, can't four bucks, I think. No, you can't. Which drives me insane. Why don't we do it here? You know, why can I do it on my iPad with keyboard, but you can't do it on the laptop. How come some of them take so long to change the audio when I go to the other one? That's a good question. Do you guys have that? I like to be able to tip one box and you go over. Yeah. Sometimes it's very quick. On some devices, it's very quick. Other devices, there's like almost 22nd delay, I think. You think something's wrong, yeah, I always think something's wrong, but is it just our connection or what is it? I don't know. I genuinely don't know because it doesn't happen all the time. Like I'll do it on my phone, I'll have four bucks if I'm traveling and there's something happening, like phone always good for me. I flip over. It's immediate. I mean, go there. iPad, I believe immediate. TV's whenever I'm on there. I go over. Somebody's doing an interview. Post game, boom, would like to hear that. Dot. I can't hear a damn thing. They're on the last TV. I get so upset about that. Why don't we do it? I thought we had the best thing ever in this four bucks. Now I can't hear things. And then once it's past, you go back, guess what? Now dog chase tail here. This thing has no idea where to go. And now I'm a minute with our son. Yeah. And I've missed everything. I've kind of blown it all with that. That's my only complaint about the four bucks. Other than that, it was made for sports, but it's literally what it was made for. And we are grateful for that. Good thing with the four bucks is you can click into it and rewind. So like, let's say you have four games on for an entire game. You can go into any of them and rewind it if you do miss something like that. Just for future reference, it does kind of what's the word for it. Not recorded, but it has that past that you've watched in that quad box. Tonight, Flyers, Devils, Black Hawks, mammoth. Oh, toss. Hey, Jay won't do it even though we have it going to be this year. No, my jacket. Have a game. All your jackets have a big one. It's here. No one's going to see hopefully people watching you sure there is a big game night that we're probably going to be watching. And also we have, I believe, a bit of a super boost. Yeah. This evening. I don't know when it goes live. I think I probably should know that at this stage of life, right? Five o'clock. It'll go live. 5 p.m., okay, Chuck knows, okay, like that. What the Chuck? I like to hear the authority on this. 5 p.m. It'll go live. What is our super boost tonight for this Thursday night football matchup? If we're Chuck dives in and tells us who he likes. Yeah, we have a tasty little treat tonight and it involves both quarterbacks tonight, both veteran quarterbacks tonight. Each of them to throw for 160 plus yards boosted to plus 100. This has happened in five of the six games that these two have played in this year. So it's pretty good odds there. But you know, as always, bet responsibly. Yeah, please bet responsibly. It was boosted to plus 100, which we like, which means that it was, you know, minus the 40 minus 130, which means in theory, odds on to happen. Now if it doesn't, we don't want to hear about it. No, no, no. You should definitely tell us you're disappointed. We're at this point too. But don't please don't be sending us messages telling us your kids can't die now because it can't be considered the bad that you did. Be responsive. Give it to yourself. No, no. What? Don't do it. Don't have that happen. Don't put yourself in a situation where we need you to gamble responsibly. For instance, yesterday, I told you boys, Sydney Crosby assist tonight, opening night in Philadelphia. Yeah. Max unit responsibly responsibly feels like a hang ones in Philadelphia, max responsibly, max unit, that thing, but your max unit has to be a responsible number and you have to be working down from there to make sure we're not assholes, AJ, because you ruin it for everybody. Yeah. We don't want that. We need to police everybody else. AJ hates that we have to say this for other adults, but we, 18 plus, it's 18 plus, right? Yeah, I believe. I believe 21. I agree. It is good to remind people, but it is not our responsibility to hold them accountable for being in it. Yeah, but we would like to advocate for, yeah, like I'm advocating for them to be responsible. I don't want any little kids going starving because old dad, you know, was betting on the stillers, has no money left and, you know, owes a bunch of money and all kind of different random bookies too on top of this. Well said. Okay. That's the way we're talking about. Yeah. We do not want that. Now, we have heard of these stories though happening and we certainly feel terrible for the people that fall into it, but you are not going to win in this in the end. You are going to end up losing a lot more than you win. There's only been like one person that's ever really won. This is going to gas station and saying, yeah, let's scratch off here. Maybe a little bit more research because you know how many of those winners are in that particular gas station potentially. So be responsible. Don't be an asshole. Draft King is available nationwide. We'd love for you to come join us if you agree to do it responsibly because I don't want to see another sit down interview with somebody telling the story of how Gamblin ruined their life. Right. Don't do it. Don't be that guy or girl. Don't do it. I'll tell you what, my wife's been dabbing a little bit. Oh nice. She, she was seeing it there one weekend and then nodded all the next and then she's kind of a hit or miss type gambler, but I do believe that is this is all just to make the watching experience a little bit better. So responsibly responsibly now, nothing like having a little stake in the game. Oh, cheers. Yeah. A response. Just a responsible. Yeah, exactly. I don't need you. I don't need you guys. Well, go to AJ hates that we have to remind people to be responsible every every single thing. Well, he's, he's kind of right. I mean, it is on that. I treat people like adults. I give them the benefit of the doubt. Well, from our understanding, legally, we're not allowed to do that and also, I'm not either. I'm not doing that. I'm advocating for responsible gambling, you know, not only legally, but I do feel an obligation because I think a lot of our people that watch our show are the community that is probably doing this. So I would like our community to represent this first generation of this right, you know, because this is going to have sports gambling is going to be legal for the rest of the time. I agree with that. 100%. So there's a lot of things happening right now with this generation of sports gamblers where it's like, we kind of get the chance to set the tone on what this is, you know, and what people expect. So let's be responsive about it. Let's not be assholes because it's better for all of us whenever this is going on that note. We need a guy to get good quick. Yeah, we. Yeah. Who's that? What the chuck? Coach Pagan is not wanting to. Oh my gosh, my so let's be super responsible with what you're about to hear now Chuck. There is a long, long season left. That number can change with the quickness to 13 and two. You can obviously go on a run. You can find a heater. We hope that is tonight. How do you see tonight's game going and what are some numbers we should maybe be paying attention to? Well. And would you like some sage? Yeah. Yeah, I need absolutely. This is smudging. I think if we burn a little bit of the sage right here, yeah, do it around his head. The bad demons and the bad picks that I've been having. Yeah. Did that thing go? Yeah. Some sage. Put it on my notes. Yep. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. My middle dollar. Oh, your smell there. Middle dollar tailors and natural path. What? And we moved into a new home. He smudged, get rid of the demons. So that's smudging right now? This is called smudging. Because you're smudging the bad. No one in North American indigenous type of deal. Okay. Okay. And your middle dollar is a what? Natural path. Dr. A doctor in sage. She's a doctor in a lot of things. Healing. Healing. Natural healing. You got a website called Love Hill Evolve and she can get you right. I didn't know this was a commercial. I shouldn't have known. The last time sage, by the way, I would, I would definitely love for your Jiggo Love Hill and Unite.com. Well, you've had stuff like this. We do this a lot. This is probably also happy birthday to your sister and happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Oh, Constance. Yeah. Happy birthday. Connie. Constance was the 26th. Yeah. We missed it this year. Yeah. Happy birthday to her. She knows that we still love her. She was the first ever American summa wrestler. That's right. And Japan and Japan and she was unbelievable. We don't have time to talk about Constance. Thank you. We love her. We missed it. Right. We'll re-game for Connie. Okay. Let's just make sure we understand this. That sage he was smoking. Yeah. I would like to make sure that we understand. I understand that sage right there. It's been sage. I know his mother's a doctor in sage. I think I know pretty good too. I think I'm maybe a bachelor's. - Well, she was the one who told me to bring this over here several years ago and say hey, give this to Pat. Let's get the demons out of the thunder dome if there are any. So that's on us. - We should be doing this for a long time. - You should be doing this for a long time. - Look at the success. - Do we have to channel anything? - Yeah. - You can, look at the success. It's probably because of the smudgeon. - Maybe a little bit more. - Weebie smudgeon. You know what I mean? - Smudgeon to the right. - Hey. - Smudgeon to the left. - I smudgeon to the room and dad. - I love that. - Weebie smudgeon. - Hopefully this should work for you 'cause you can't see the fucking board. - No kidding. - So hopefully you get one right here. - Oh mama. - Okay. ♪ Oh my life from the long run ♪ - We got two minutes shook if you wanna get to that or just kinda keep-- - rivalry game. We got two good defenses. All right, we've had a couple of offenses. Pittsburgh got going last week. Cleveland's really struggled. We heard all the numbers about, you know, Cleveland hadn't lost in nine games. Mike McCarthy's got a great record, diss that and the other. You know, throw these stats out in this game. I was part of this rivalry the first four years of my coaching career in the National Football League at the Brownies. This was pre-game. William Green, our number one draft pick at a Boston college running back. Him and Joy Porter, senior, who knows if he's still a stiller. - Or not. - Junior's out of there. I mean, he always probably, they got into an altercation. Some said there might have been some spat either way, but they fist fought, both got ejected before kickoff. And yeah, this is like, there's no love lost in this one. This is going to be a Donnie Brook. This is going to be a good old fashioned Donnie Brook right here, smash minute, two good defense. I don't see a lot of points being scored. You said the overrunners at 38. I'm thinking this thing flies under. You guys say sneaky over. I don't see that happening. Rudy, this is Rudy Berg, the defense corner for the Browns. He's done a heck of a job with this defense. They got dogs. The biggest question, here's the biggest matchup deal. Is that vaunted past rush of Steelers versus this whole line that's being, last time I took a shitty old line at home, opening home opener, Green Bay, this, that and the other, they got throttled. They couldn't block nothing. - 20 seconds. - Yeah. So I'm thinking Steelers tonight. - Wow. - All right. - And don't get me wrong, 20 seconds. I love Monk, I love what he's doing there. It's a rebuild, they're young. They got two new starters at the right side, the center, first time starting at center. I don't see it happening tonight for them. Steelers minus two and a half in Cleveland. Kick off week four of the NFL season tonight on Prime. Now, big day with big shregs, breaking down all the big plays is next. - Oh hell, oh hell, oh hell. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's the one. - Oh hell, yeah. - All right. - All right. Who do you like so I can take the same thing after that. - Wow, that's the one they send in. - Yeah. - They're doing it, you know what I mean? That's the one they say they're doing it. AJ, were you surprised with the Steelers minus two and a half there? We kind of put it on them to make a quick decision with the sage blowing in his face as well. Shout to the natural path doctor, his daughter for kind of figuring that all out. Steelers minus two and a half felt like that was going to be the pick of the Thunderdom, okay? Just because of what we saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers last week saying, oh, their defense is going to be great. We know that offense doesn't look inept. Cleveland Browns, fun, fun, fun, fun story. This is very fun, we're very happy for the Browns. But it does feel like the Steelers real football team. Then you start listening to the stats, are looking at the stats and it's going to be at home. Cheap trick's going to be performing at halftime. Okay, they're only going to get better, you would assume. AJ, how did you think Chuck was going to go? And after listening to him, have you wafened even more? Because there's been some waffling in the Thunderdom, I will have you know. - Yeah, there has been some waffling in, I believe there's been some waffling with success to where, you know, I usually trust my instincts when it comes to this kind of stuff, obviously. My instincts from the jump were the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, I didn't even know how much of a favorite they were two and a half. I'm good with that number. I, the Browns scare me a little bit, especially at home on Thursday night, but I was on Steelers early and hearing Chuck go through his whole situation. I am going to stick with the Steelers minus two and a half on the road. - Okay. Talks with Table at Boston Conrad, Ty Schmitt. Conman has been waffling. - Actually. - All morning. This guy's been dancing on either side here. I think he likes to thought the cheap tricks are potentially going to be performing. ♪ I want you, want me ♪ ♪ I need you to name me ♪ ♪ I love you, love me ♪ - Can't wait for that. I mean, Kirk Herbstry say he's going to take a quick dump, get back up there and make sure he can see it tonight in his six minutes. - Conman, what if you, has cheap trick kind of put you over the top there or where do you kind of land at this exact moment? - It definitely has put me over the top just 'cause I was hoping for the Gallagher boys in the Oasis to kind of go out there and put on a show. But it is one of those things. We talking about it with stats. It's like, unless it's 100%, I don't want to hear it. And then Tony let's solve all these stats. It's damn near 100% for the Browns on Thursday night. So it's like, I feel like I should be taking Cleveland plus two and a half, but I just don't think I can get there because of the offensive line versus Cam Hayward and T.J.Y. And - Urbic. - Back then, is it? - I'm missing the new D tackle from Oregon, who you guys got last year as a rookie. - Oh, called, goal ball game? - Yeah, bet and unbelievable. He was one of the stars against the Patriots two weeks ago, but yeah, I just, that fucking, I'll take the Browns plus two and a half actually. - Wow. - I love fucking, I love fucking to be good so bad. - So bad. - Five career games, Aaron Rogers versus the Browns. 11 touchdowns, one interception. - What do you say, why? - I mean, that's a, I mean, it's hard for me to - What do you say, why? - It's just hard for me, like, I understand that like, logos playing against logos produce certain types of things, but teams are so different. - Yeah. - I don't know how it always ends up being the case. It's true, like when these two teams play, it's like these two teams, Mike McCarthy's the head coach, he's like an offensive guru. That is not how these teams have been ever. Bill Coward, defensive guy, special teams guy. I mean, you go through Tom Linger, defensive guy, special teams guy. It's like such a different team, it feels like, than what it was in the past. But I guess logos always do kind of end up playing the same type of game every single time. I still don't understand why that is, but I love it. - Yeah, just like to your point in that conversation with the Browns, like the Munkin, I forget what the exact number was, but I believe the over under 17 and a half team total points for the Browns. And Munkin's gone under like only 15% of his career games as a head coach in a play car. So it's one of those things too, like, well, yeah, the Browns are ground in pound, have a good running back and everything, but Munkin, he isn't really like that. He'll spin the ball around the yard. So it's, it's just like, - So different team that is playing against each other, different mindset, different cultures, different everything. And it's gonna look like a Steelers Browns game. - Well, yeah. - We all think, right? - Yes. - It's crazy. Why is that agent? - Football goes. - I don't know how that does work. It is weird, but I think it would be a little easier to pick the Browns if the Steelers didn't kind of have that offensive, you know, output that they had last week and kind of show that they can be explosive offense and push the ball down the field. - Explosion, you'd say. The offensive explosion, as you would call it. I think anybody would call it Ty. Who do you like? How do you like? Have you been waffling Pancake in French toasting? - No, I haven't. I've seen firsthand what can happen when you have multiple online starters down. Usually that team plays like hammered dog shit at least in the Packers case, that is how it goes. And the Falcons didn't exactly have, you know, TJ Watt and Cam Hayward on the other side. The Steelers do. So yeah, I'm gonna go with the Steelers minus two and a half and I'm fairly confident that they'll get the job done. - Todd Mann is taking it strictly because he was told things are gonna happen. - I also love Todd Munkan. I do. And I want them to win so bad, Marcus. Yeah, well, Todd Munkan. - That's Todd Munkan. - Todd Munkan, coach. - I worked with a guy for the last year, okay. And not one time, I was never called that in the big home. - Did you just pick a guess? - Munkan. - You called him the wrong name for the entire year? - I love him for a whole year. - He's gonna do a great, he's perfect for Cleveland. - Perfect. - 'Cause he don't give a chuck. - That's right. - They're finally cheering for Watson. - He don't give a chuck. But he's got a very young team. He's down a couple offensive lineman. He's got, what would we call that guy? Whiplor? - Yeah, Whiplor. - Yeah, Whiplor. It started six games in his pro career, never at center. So that's a tall order. He'll go out there and fight. Barbara, the right tackle out of Florida. He's a rookie. He's gonna go out there and fight. - What about Watson? - Watson is the one caveat. He's the one, like fourth quarter, 'cause this is gonna be a one-score game. And it's gonna come down the fourth quarter like last week versus the Panthers, where he gets out of harm's way. He ducks a sack. He slides to the left and he finds Fanon for the game winner. And the defense comes up. They're really good on defense. Like, would I be shocked? Would I be shocked? - If the bad. - Yeah. In Cleveland. - I don't know, would you? - In front of CheapTrack. - To just not only cover, but win this damn thing out, right? And look at the dogs. Like they were barking their ass off. - Home dogs, yeah, they're crazy, yeah. - You picked against your front? - Moncat. And Ty picked against Munken, Dan Orlovsky. - Munken, please. - Let's have some respect for Guy. - That's two and one. - He said he wouldn't want to gain big Todd. - Dan Orlovsky knows more than you, and he called it Dan Orlovsky. He knows Munken a lot better than you ever could. So he said that yesterday, was that? - It might have been, no. - No, it was yesterday's yesterday. - It was two yesterdays ago. - It was two yesterdays yesterday. - Yeah. - That's what it was. - I can't roll them. - Actually, it was two yesterdays yesterday whenever he was. You can't roll them enough. - Your eyes? - Yeah. - Yeah, those things weren't really up there then. - You tried. - You're pretty good. One more maybe. - Take, see. - Can you go look that way so we can see it? - Yeah, say Dan did it what again? - Dan Orlovsky knows more about, go, stay on him, stay on him, stay on him. Dan Orlovsky knows more about football. Dan Orlovsky knows more about Todd Munken. Dan Orlovsky knows more about defense of football. And Dan Orlovsky is, - That was a big mistake. (laughing) - I can't roll them enough. - First course easy. - The cross-eyed. - Do you wish you had bigger orbital bones so you could roll your eyes harder? I like that. I like that joke. - I didn't know you're a big eye roller. - My grandsons, they love when that, and get this. I don't wanna change the subject. - No, can tell you what. - And I talk about Ram, truck real quick. - Absolutely. Great L-Rap earlier from the boys in the back. - I saw it up there. So, quickly. - I took, okay. - Took my grandsons. - No, no, no, no. - No, no, no. - I was just kidding. - What was that? - I took barefoot. - I took barefoot. - I took barefoot, say nine holes, a golf, you know what I say. - How on Monday, right? - How old is he? - He's five and a half. Well, he's gonna be six in October. - Sure. - That doesn't come in five and a half. - Almost six. - Yeah, I remember that. - Just an absolute stud. And little bodys, my second grandson, he's three. So I take him golf, it's just me and him, right? Have a great time. Go back home, a couple of lollipops. You want to get one from the self, one for bodys. Take to the house. I gotta drive him home, toys at home. So we're in the car having a conversation. I mean, this guy's intelligent. I mean, we're having a nice conversation. We're getting ready to make a turn and there's traffic coming from the left. So he's in the back in his car seat. And he's just, look at that ram truck. And I'm like, get the, what? And so I look in the big ram on the front, right? That's a ram truck. I said, how do you spell ram, and he goes, R-A-M, okay? And then we're riding up the street about three minutes later, I hear this. Remember, remember, remember, remember. (laughing) I swear, I said, what? - Yeah. - What did you, like, when you turn that thing over, the beauty of that ram truck, what's that thing sound like? And he goes, remember, remember, remember. (laughing) That's awesome. - He's like, pop, I love you on there. Who's your second? Pat, I love Pat. - AJ, who's that other guy up on the big screen? AJ, do you know the toxic tag ball? I don't know them yet, Pat, but. - Remember, remember, remember. - That's awesome. - That's crazy to think about that that's happening with a six year old and being able to recall that. Obviously, my daughter's three and four months, five months now. She's remembering everything. She's starting to really talk. It's so much fun to do that. I thought that ram truck was coming at their car. - Yeah, me too. - Yeah, I'm scared to death. - Fuck off, fuck off, ram truck. - I thought he was-- - How long ago was it? And then he goes, and how about poopy ball when you put those poopies up there? I'm thinking, this kid, so this is the only TV he gets to watch is today, right? - Oh, we got to start teaching him more. - That's good. - So then he goes, what were those things you put up? Remember when the raiders were playing the dolphins and that guy had that foul and they had that penalty on him? What were those things that you guys put up? Remember the heads exploding? - Oh, yes. - What you tell him? - That's how detailed this is. - What did you tell him? - He was mine blower. - Mine, yeah, mine, mine blower. - You love being a grandpa, huh? - Oh, you should get your bear into Minecraft. - Yeah. - Well, he's in the Legos. I told you that earlier, right? - Yeah, that's easy. - No, but he, putting them together. Yeah, he's-- - Are you anti-mindcraft? 'Cause-- - Sounds like-- - No, no, no, no. - No, it sounds like you're a little bit of anti-mindcraft. - No, no, no, sure. - Not anti-mythome, nothing but great respect. We all know that, Hall of Fame coach. Guys need a hobby. - Yeah. - What you wanna do with your spare time? - But just think you and Berk, it's been maybe 24 or 25,000 hours. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, we're not gonna do the iPad thing. - We're not gonna, like-- - No, buy him a game. - That's what you guys probably do at your kids. Hey, here, here's your baby sitter. - He said this. - Oh, really? He's coming from Grandpa who gets to give him back, Dickette. - Yeah, really nice, Hall of Fame. He gave this speech whenever I was playing. - They're sugar free. - I'm talking about-- - They don't get sugar. They're clean eaters. They don't get dairy. They don't get sugar. I asked you guys if you have gluten-free donuts around, 'cause I gotta get them gluten-free donuts. - Don't send those kids to college, 'cause when they get to college-- - Don't, boy, or they gonna go off the rail. - Remember, that's on you to do that. You don't have to get them gluten-free. - Yes, I do, 'cause he would write. They wouldn't touch it. I got him a golf shirt. Brand new golf shirt. We went golfin' 'cause he had one. And he looks at me and goes, is that polyester? Six years old. - That's what I'm saying. You gotta stop that. - Boy, that kid's gonna-- (laughs) - That one. - That kid's gonna start out-- - Just get for your skin, 'cause they're so-- - I know, that's what I'm saying is maybe-- - It's a Johnny O. - Yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do, like-- - Bing ya. - Yeah, I understand Bing ya. I think I've been-- - My kid's gonna have a taste of a Mick Ultra, and loses mind in high school. - No, I would even go there. (laughs) - Come on, fuck is wrong with you. - Boy, you're not letting them live. - Yeah, you gotta do it. You gotta introduce yourself. - Guys, eat gluten-free donuts. - No, it's dairy, they're gluten-free donuts. - You gotta have a cup of milk. - You gotta have a pot of heavy and be like, holy fuck, where's this being my whole life? - Don't listen to this, bro, if you're watching. - Bear does. - You stay strong. - We love bears. - You stay strong, you don't give in to pure pressure. - That's right, you're disciplined. - You know what I mean? - It's different, your name is Bear. Now, on that note, you try to sneak yourself a real fat ass donut, and you try to get one of those. - Fucking chocolate chip cookie. - Yeah, maybe a blue bear one. - Bear one, yeah. - Like a fountain cherry, Pepsi. - We know that will happen. - Oh, the cherry, Pepsi, fun. (blows raspberry) - Oh, they get these Ollie pop, you get the drink. - Which are very good. - They're delicious. - But it ate Coca-Cola, so as soon as he has a Coke. - Now, I would like to follow up that I am certainly trying to guide my daughter towards healthy food. - Oh yeah, I was headed out. - To the super duper fat food. But on that note, she gets these little ice cream drumsticks. - Oh yeah. - Oh my God. - Hat-trader Joe's. - Hat-trader Joe's. - Oh, I know what's your ton, man. - Those are money. - They are. - When I was playing for Chuck, I don't know how many years ago this was, he was all fired up about some, given some speech, you guys taking an easy way out about that sort of shit, you know. And he goes, it's probably carries a home too. - Don't give your kids the iPad. (laughs) - Don't give your kids the fucking iPad. I don't know if he said fucking, but basically in your face was just like so disappointed. Didn't know who was doing it in there. But you knew somebody in there was doing it? That's the easy way out. Just take the easy way out. Toss the iPad. They'll just get locked in. You won't have to talk to him for an hour and a half, two hours, you don't have to do anything. Just do that. That's what some of you are in here doing. I don't need that. That was like, I didn't have kids at the time, you know, sticking to myself. Oh my God. I didn't even think about people just handing kids the iPad. Then I thought about what my parents would have done without much energy I had. If they had access to an iPad, they kind of just give to me. But you can learn on there though, Chuck. It's not just taking the easy way out. It's maybe heightening some different skill sets. Okay, go up and down an airplane. All right. Go up and down an airplane. See all the kids, three to five, three to six, headphones on the airplane. And I guarantee you that there is no math. There is no math on there. What are you nuts? Get up on an airplane. We're trying to get them not to cry on an airplane. Oh, Charlie, what is this? What the chuck? What's they doing? What do you want them to do? Just sit there and draw that trip just there. You know the subliminal stuff that's coming out of them. You don't even know what they're doing. You wonder why our kids are all jacked up. My kids are not jacked up. Now on that note, she does know a lot of the lyrics to that K-Pop demon hunter's home. And I'll tell you what, she can get you Elsa from the front to the back of that thing. On that note, she will remain active. Outside can't be glued to the iPad, which I assume a lot of people do. Traveling out in public is the only time you use it. That's why that's where you need to be. Let's get through these terrible times that my parents talked about with me in the past, you know. We got an hour and a half drive. Great to have this fucking kid in the back seat. This is great news. I bet you my mom and dad look at the modern state of parenting and just think, must be nice. The entire time must be nice to have that because I'm bouncing off the wall in the back of that thing. You're saying, live in that moment still to this day. That's what you're saying. Let these kids bounce off the walls. That's like you. Yeah. I like that, Chuck. I'm into that. No, I mean, what? Chuck, do you get in trouble? You give them in the back. Try to give them sweets. What's that? Do you get in trouble? That's kind of like the grandparents thing to do. Hey, when you come to me, you get stuff that you don't get with your parents. They're like, do you try to slide them stuff like that? No. No, I'd be done. We'd never see him again. Okay. I would never get. I like it. I like that. Get cut off. I like I'll commend the whole way. You want to see these kids? Ishkitsch. You better. Right? Don't you? No. Have you seen something like this? We talked about Ishkitsch. So you're on the Steelers minus two and a half people going to friends with Monkan? Yep. Oh. Oh, no, friends. Toast. Maple syrup. What are you doing? I don't know what happens. You're waffle. I'm not a half century. Yeah. I was going to let you hear what Tone was doing. I legitimately am not a half century. Tone's taking the Steelers, but he's going to rattle off a bunch of reasons why they could because that's kind of why. - What he does. - Normally, most confident I've been in a long time and it scares me, but Steelers minds too and half of it in the younger dough. - Oh, he does. - I feel better. - I may not, I know. - Me too, I actually kind of-- - Thank you, Tony, welcome. - Comment though, he's sitting over there feeling like he could be sitting in a prime position tomorrow as we all jump on one particular side. And is it just because what we saw three days ago, Steelers finally played offensive football. They look like Iowa of old. - Sure. - For a long time. - Those two programs looked a lot like you. Each other less, five years. - And like the home dogs thing was last week. It feels like this week home dogs won't have the same success. - What are you doing here? - At a reverse. - Last week, no, no. - Oh no. - But I will say to what Ty said, like when there's alignment out, you're worried. It's just, I think Monkin, I mean, I think a floor can't hold Monkin's jock. I feel like Monkin has a plan for the two-line B and out. - To the floor this week, I think. - Hey, someone's fucking-- - Talkin' beat Steelers last year with Laura Jackson, Derek Henry, so. - Cleveland offense, total 30th, rush 29th, past 28th. They're down 30th, red zone 28th. Turnover margin, minus one. Steelers just, they got eight sets. They got six turnovers already. Did you hear the numbers I just gave you? - You did say, throw the stats out. - Yes, you already said that. So I'm not, I shouldn't have listened. - Hm. (laughs) - What are you gonna put a cape on number four? - You just said throw the stats out. - I mean, that's the one, that's what he's gonna have to be. He's gonna have to beat Hooper Man. - Hooper Man. - Hooper Man. - Hooper Man. - They finally cheered for him. I think he was crying for days about it. And now he's like, I gotta go out there. Fuckin' do this for them. - I do appreciate you doing what you did, though, to us. Where we have all the stats up on the screen. And then you show a fight from 1964, or whatever it was. And then you say, throw the stats out. This is a rivalry game. And then right here afterwards you go, now. - Is he this fucking stats? - I want everybody to have all the information before they make just some like flyer. - Responsible decision. - Responsible decision, response, okay, ambling. Like you gotta have it. - I'll take the stealers. - What's he gonna say? - It kinda sounds like you're saying Todd Monken's offense. Success. - No. - Based on those stats. - He said he can't protect-- - He's three games into his tenure. - That's all that we can go off of. - I love Monken, I'm a Monken guy. - And he didn't know his offensive line was gonna be in shambles. - Is it Monken or Monken? - It's Monken. - Alright. - I mean, I have show some respect to the guy. I mean, the guy's a life or football life or family. - We love him. - Yeah. - Dan or Lovsky, though. - Yeah. - V, Dan or Lovsky. - Yeah. - Do you know him? Do you love him? - Ooh, Dan or Lovsky. - I do, I do, but he's not pronouncing his name correct. - Oh, Dan wouldn't-- - Yesterday. - Oh, jeez. - Geez, Dan's taking some right now. - Yesterday, I was-- - Let's see, Dan or Lovsky's up to you. Let him know that this is all happening. - I love listening to Dan. - Do you know what about him? - He's got a big brain. He's good at football. - He is good at football. He is good at football. - He was. - Got that. - He's still doing the football. - The plan. - I wonder if he'll allow me to say it. - Hey, we're live, we're live, we're live, we're live, we're live. - Hey, why'd you pronounce Coach Munkin's name the way you did the other day? - Coach Munkin. - Hold on, one more time. - Coach Munkin? - That's not what you said. - When you were on a stage with the lights on, you decided to sauce it up and you said Munkin. You don't remember that? - I don't remember that. - I never said that. - The boys literally only call him Munkin now because that's how you pronounced it. - All right, I like that. Munkin can. - No, yeah. - No Dan, run with the Dan. - You can stay yesterday, you can stay yesterday, but it's Munkin. Leave it at that. - What's up, man? - How you doing, brother? - I'm getting on you. - He's saying, what's up? Is you pronouncing the guy's name wrong? Are these friends with us to have some respect? Is what he's saying? - It's Munkin. - No. - God, don't go overboard on the last, just Munkin. - Munkin. - Who do you like tonight, Dan? - Yeah, who do you like tonight? We're gonna watch NFL live if you're on it, obviously, but who do you like tonight? - Yeah, it's a dangerous game. I don't think to Sean Watson played as well as people believe. He's played last week, he could have thrown three interceptions, Carolina just did not catch them, so I made some plays with his legs. So I think there's an opportunity for Pittsburgh to get a couple of bingos. Cleveland's defense is really good, really good. I'm tempted to pay Cleveland tonight. - All right, I'm taking Pittsburgh. - Cleveland plus two and a half, Tanner Lovsky says he's tempted over under 38 and a half. We'll have, you know, Conman was on Cleveland until five seconds ago, something happened. Over under 38 and a half, how do you feel about that? - Under both really good defenses. Like I said, Cleveland's defense is awesome. Mason Graham's ball and verse really good. Shwesinger, Shwesinger, awesome. Pittsburgh's defense very good as well, so I would take the under. - All right, we appreciate you, Dano. - Later pal. - Munkin. - Munkin. - He still wants to say Munkin. - The thing is, two yesterdays yesterday, you said Munkin and you changed the entire ThunderDome. - Yeah, I mean, you've got to know by now that sometimes I just say things that, you know, maybe are correct. - No doubt. - No, yeah, yeah, you can't say either. All right, you're the best, you're the best, goodbye. We all do. - Yeah, the boost is live. That's the beauty. - Are you legitimately on the Steelers now? - I, oh yeah, Steelers, my turn out. (laughing) - Team Rod. Team Rod, I like that. Team Rod, let's spin it. Super boost is well live on draft kings. Aaron Rogers, they have 160 passing yards, which, I don't know if I love after what Dano just said, to Sean Watson, 160 passing yards, I don't know. - Aaron does, that's tough. - He has, we got no weather issues. Like, beautiful, beautiful night. Like, they're gonna, they're gonna air it out a little. - Let's be responsible on this one. - They got this, for sure. - I like that Bruce. - I'll set. - I'll set Bruce. - Thank you, Bruce. All right, you'll get 100 off broken place. Extended place. - Oh. - And we gotta remember to Sean Watson, fourth quarter is where it's been coming. So this is alive until the end, until it's not. - Yeah, they're being outscored by a minimum of probably 15 to, I think 21 points, first three quarters, and then they've outscored their opponents in the fourth quarter, 25 to 13. - There's no Quentin Boncans, boys. - That's 'cause you munkan. - Well said. - The issue is sometimes you munkan't, and that ain't gonna be to be for tonight's munkan, boys. - That's right. Am I on the Browns plus two and a half? - Who are you on? - Yeah, you have a, no, you just, I said Steelers there, but I don't know if I like a whole of us being honest. - Don't forget about peace times and half time. - We were all in the bills. - What's another cheap trick song? Do we, do we-- - Oh, the theme song of that 70 show. - Shut up. ♪ Hangin' 'em ♪ ♪ Down in the street ♪ ♪ Down in the street, down in the street ♪ ♪ Same old things we did last week ♪ ♪ Not a thing to do ♪ ♪ But talk to you ♪ ♪ We're all all right ♪ - Yeah, I remember that. - Keep tricking at some heat. - Oh yeah, yeah. - What, two songs and half time, right? - There's a, yeah, I would just, I would just, really. - Really? - I would assume so. - Maybe three? I don't know what you think. - Seven or eight. - Well, that's for like the holiday games. I don't know about like Thursday and a football. - You're right. - Jack White Eminem nailed it. - That was spectacular last year. - What's the name is really good with the igloo before that? - Jack Arlo. - Hello, how'd a big one? Yeah. - Donald, like Thanksgiving there, weren't they? These are normal half times, like 12 minutes. - Yeah, but this is-- - Right, normal half time. Dolly Parton, Dallas. - Yep, yeah. - There's some peace. - I'm just, I love-- - But this is the Hall of Fame Cleveland Brown's Hall of Fame game, so-- - What if they were chosen to sing all the other inductee songs as well? - Now we're talking. - That'd be cool. - Like a mashup. - That'd be sick. - We don't know. - No, there's no us. - Are they on the field, are they up in it? I know they built with some little stage in the stands. - 'Cause it doesn't care. - Yeah. - Hey, get-- - Oh, come on! - Fuck your teeth, man! - It's a rock-a-roll Hall of Fame. We thought maybe Wu Tang would drop out there. Maybe still. - Hey, you don't even live there. - We went playing the mistake on the lake. - Yes, we did. - I had a terrible game. - How about that game? We came back in one. - Shhh. - We were down. - Bad. - So bad. - It was ugly. Wendy, it was fucking 30, 40-minute-hour winds in air. - You know why we won that? Receiver there, right? - Oh. - Did not get off the field, got injured, late in that game, and didn't get off the field, and charged them a timeout. Stopped the clock and charged them a timeout, and we had just enough clock at the end. - Boom, Aaron, I think we handed boom, Aaron to fall on a fourth down. - We should've been handling it. - 'Cause they were beating the crap out of us. - Oh, yeah. - A whole game. - Oh, yeah. - But Rabbit, was it a returner? Isn't the game was Rabbit? - Was it Josh Gordon? - Travis Benjamin. - Travis Benjamin. - Yeah. - No. - It was Travis Benjamin. - Travis Benjamin. - No. This was, no. Should they've got hurt on the side? They were silent. - Oh, yeah. - You got a talk about two different things. - I'm talking about the returner. - Oh, my bad. - Hell, you're talking about the water. You heard him cause time out? (whistles) - Would you roll him off the field, Chuck? If he was on your team? - Yeah, 100%. Grab him by the ankle and drag him. - What if it was a hurt ankle, though? - I saw the play. Nothing happened. - Boom. (laughing) - If he got a U-O-H or something, if somebody speared him, yeah. We're gonna, oh, good. - Oh, what? He got a what? use of helmet oh you are of course there is a fan powered light show tonight power the show with your phone being receipts by 7.45 back on the breath that's a damn clown show lights music this that guy play the ball down let's have a we didn't used to do that back in a day and people are mean we fought the change over the coach and sent up a light show my kid might know you could be I don't have lasers hopefully the lightsabers maybe they did all miss actually had one of the best in-game experiences I've ever seen they had a full drone show I mean full drone show doesn't else you have a sick one two two hundred three hundred drone shows I don't know what they're doing down there man the south they they do it right oh miss had the wrist band yeah I know those looks great wrist bands that were rolling there a lot of lights off lights on you know like Florida State couldn't get the power to get the light whatever a lot of these places obviously updated stuff the lights are popping off like it's here at the house they're able to do that to the entire stadium LSU did have a phenomenal any place that goes pitch black yeah normally he's going to have a presentation and technology available that is going to be a fucking great family family has pitch black all right into everything yeah they're there is this all messier gump's out this videos yeah there's a better one coming in that shows the actual Ole Miss when they lit up the sky with it it was insane do they had a drone show that would look like it was like Olympics like the amount of fucking they didn't have as many people it wasn't as big that stadium doesn't look that big it wasn't as big like LSU the week before with LSU yeah that thing was up Tennessee is a sweet one at night too obviously you guys weren't there at night but 102,000 people in there too that if they do to get on the same page it's obviously beautiful but yeah the drone show is fucking insane I mean how sick remember how cold it was some of the drones froze out and crashed crash that was sweet yeah yeah two of them dropped out but it was a phenomenal show yeah I don't know if they do this every home game or if it's just like as the LSU game it was a magical environment down there LSU fantastic Texas a lot of chance like there's a lot of everybody is involved in the lead up to like 15 minutes worth gump it in it feel like it was like 15 minutes of them having everybody on the same page yeah it was unbelievable Ole Miss was unreal and then LSU like you said was all the self just does it right like AJ said every place we go to especially at night even Tennessee during the day it's so loud in there it's unbelievable place was packed at what hour hour and a half before the game because they were told to do that what's that they're continuing that's for the rest of the year the happy hour half price concessions three hours before the game for the rest of the entire year because it was so successful it was packed out and obviously that builds the environment for your team but also the away team it's like you have to come out to the eighth largest stadium packed for your early warm up that's that feels like that's a bit of a daunting thing I appreciate that these colleges are all still all in on ball mm-hmm and I cannot wait to see Iowa yeah it's gonna be awesome I cannot wait to see Iowa seven explosives last week for Pittsburgh and I got one more I got one more number you got you said one more number one more number I want to hear it 685 1104 got it the year you're born let's say 85 1104 you know what that stands goes for 685 1104 Sean Watson is completing 68% of his passes he's got five touchdowns to one interception and a 104 rating okay so Cleveland that was who'd you go with stealers just throwing it out there 60 who are you used to do we got a prop back there he's got a prop I don't know are you about to pull out we got like a mom Ken mask or something dog back there change it oh wow all right all right I respect it I like it toy monk white sir OC Travis sorry babe you take my terrible time you guys are kicking me over there great bet also one sack for cam hey we're just plus 354 right now and guess just one sack and it's back up center in the back of the three up the middle the three in the middle would be cam hey we're at Keanu Benton and then Derek Carman who responsibly responsibly against Whiplier and Barber yeah plus 354 just seems to say and he doesn't have a sack on the year yet so I agree responsibly but responsibly responsibly plus 354 super responsibly remember not getting rich off of these just having a little extra to make ourselves feel smart and a little bit of happiness whenever something happens a little chase just a little chase but chase a little chase that guy was awesome yeah Dero is awesome yeah what is he talking about as a lasagna and a meatballs a gravy yeah I mean he had him all I felt like in a 10 minute period I can't wait for you to meet each other I think we do need to do a big program friends a program like kind of house golf thing that be sweet I think we need to do that I think we need to begin everybody under the same roof yeah I'm sure that won't cause any ridiculous things no that would be sweet though that would be fun so many characters yeah so many characters we'd have to go to a place where poker is obviously completely legal and okay and we'll head to a place where there is legal sage and marijuana so that if anybody wants to participate in a legal state that we are not in currently we will certainly head there isn't one booze will be available I'll you shut up Buffalo Church good Vegas bless you Bob yeah I don't think we need to be staying I can see no what I'm saying is we need to get away from that we need to see him bless you Bob yeah wouldn't hate me in Bob all right one bite Blasio Bob to the guy he's going to the friend he's from he's from Cleveland he's he's so jacked right now is he stadium is he going to be there at the game no dang okay where you on I'm I'm going to do Pittsburgh let's team ride this thing all right I think we'll find out a lot right now it's chucked up on we'll attempt to win 25 people $500 all he'll have to do is put this NFL flag football ball which is perfect for a throw around yes and a kick around and a hangout session for you at home we have no idea where you buy him but you certainly can somewhere if chucked we're gonna is able to put this ball into what you yep he's Christ I don't know that who he made two over there earlier which who go there okay all right and wow how many tries do I get because it takes a minute to feel a weight you know I need one way to the ball you just want to kind of get loose a little bit you should take it loose but it's loose a little bit you know take that thing over top there you know what I mean snap that off that's a really cool hoodie by the way sure yeah it is super cool you know what I mean do the sleeve zip off you gotta spin that a little bit you need to loosen up are you kind of throwing it off what are you throwing it off not gonna be able to make is that polyester bat for your skin yeah what should he be wearing what kind of mission is caught in misery loves company guys guys have you heard that misery loves company that's right those those disgruntled players they used to go down the locker room just look for some you know I'm getting this I'm getting now and I'm not getting any playing time and there's somebody in there that'll gravitate over yeah you right you got every right in the world to be miserable right now keep your head down yeah yeah that's because they like see their ass off team so they can get up 100% they think they're on the same side no no they're they're trying to get out no that though miserable people can't see that because they're so blinded by the misery they think that they got others that are miserable it's like yeah right this person trying to get you on your way out of here so you take advantage of miserable ass that's right these winning programs I get that's is it some role yeah what I I guarantee you what he told his staff and his like if somebody comes because they're gonna try to find a weak link he's player you know their coach whatever and a lot of people they just want to be friends with these guys right yeah good little pop fun pop you said you get a guy come over to you and he starts bitching a moan and pointing fingers and you know whining about this whining about that and hey my coach don't like me he ain't hey ho ho ho ho understand maybe where you come from this in a conversation no me you go see your coach wrong chucking guy exactly I'm on that guy side actually the coach that he's trying to do what they're doing you right now I agree with them I don't know why but just know I'm on his team that's what you're saying misery loves company that's right well said we don't know if they love it though or if they're looking for it but that is a bar put on a t-shirt me yeah all right chuck if you put that there were your vocal guy locker room would you meet would you like if somebody wasn't tone is like tone line would you sit him down and say hey fuck do you think I wouldn't step in too much I'm not a big guy on unsolicited advice but yeah if they came to me or I was more of a set of example type of guy I would like you saw something that was tearing away at the fabric or what were you kind of course okay I was very lucky in Green Bay that they they thought about that a lot the great the late great Ted Thompson he brought in people that were team guys I like that still his corner jalen ramsey questionable with the wrist is expected to play tonight first believe in his sources is Jeremy Fowler broken wrist on three days rest and ramsey still plans to play what a dog but he has a club right The answers are saying that's Pittsburgh still here. Yeah, see Joey. That's a volunteer. Not a hostage. That's minecraft expert My mom is quote, which obviously will continue to carry on. What's that just a wrist? They won't have it will have his digits out Just the wrist Okay It'd be like me having my vocal cords For whatever. No, I mean, it's a it's a big deal But what I'm saying is he's gonna have a brace on his wrist his hands not gonna be in one of those clubs I thought I heard somebody say club. Well, I thought maybe we wait. I thought he might be in a club to paint on where it is But yeah, if you can have your little thingies out that's much better. I just gonna have all five digits out AJ has a pick with no fengies right on big back on my my thingies were out But the tough thing when you wear a cast you know when it goes over to like this part of your hand I I would have one game. I bet my fingers all the way back because it was like it all the way against the cast in my hand Pull up like a remind me of like the supermarket brothers the white gloves. It's in my hand Instantly too. It was brutal. It felt terrible because it comes a lot of pressure. Do you have to drain that what happens there? No, you know stick it in a bucket of ice once Sure, that thing goes the rest so Harold fan and junior over maybe Maybe what you think Jalen Ramsey's coming back to play bad. No, I just it just sounds like he might be hard for him to get his hands on guys Maybe tough for my hurdle, but I appreciate him playing. That's good Pittsburgh Stiller football. That's 80 North football. It is our Chuck Pogano 25 p. Manon's good player Really great football player Todd Monkins a good coach, too, and you say you didn't get a chance. Yeah One of the best out of bowling game ever Monks perfect for that place Just nuts. Yeah He was a damn good guy. And the scariest thing about it. Mm-hmm Is I know they're both for you know first year to play with house money and all that stuff. They got nothing to lose. Oh Neither they got nothing to lose. They have to football. They weren't supposed to win one game And they're already a two and one tied for first in the AFC North. I was this was the first place Huh, hang the banner exactly. They're gonna hate the shot again if he doesn't fucking win in that one Now they got expectations though. Now we got some more expectations No Yeah, and the thing about people in Cleveland If they won They would be so pissed. What was it saying? Because they love being miserable and they love going No, they don't have their bills and drink their beers They got a playoff series starting in Bayball. They want to be winners right now. True. Who's a guardians? Yeah, yeah They're really good. What happened to the Indians? Well, I changed your name of the guard. Yeah, they changed to the guards Chief Wahoo who was offensive Yeah, we didn't think so Are you gonna throw the football? Jay this you are we all are thank you. Cheese Louise They got a good casino there too break-action jacks They got rid of jacks. No, no, they don't claim them. Yeah No way. Casinos gone from downtown. I think so. You're better. You better know that one brother It's still there. Yeah, it's still there. Yeah, it's three four floors. You know shit old man It's great casino actually Growing up in Pittsburgh. I will say when you talk about throwing a stats out and everything like that growing up in Pittsburgh I was led to believe that Cleveland was a third-world country and it was the absolute worst it tone grew up up the street Nick grew up on the other side That is literally what we were taught to believe as kids and the people in Cleveland were taught the same thing about Pittsburgh That is good football driver. I mean that is just what it's supposed to be When we played over there and we showed up at Cleveland as my first time there were driving buses through the city I was going to Venetary This is a nice city Vinnie's like yeah, it is yeah, it's pretty nice. What do you I'm like? This is not what I expected at all and he goes what do you mean? I was like I thought This place was a complete shit. All this nice city. He's pretty nice city then years later whenever we go back and visit We got a jacks casino. We all win Walk it through. I think the oldest hotel or oldest mall in America is that it's like This is a nice gorgeous. I was so flustered. I was really mind blown every time I've gone there The stadium on the lake beautiful view terrible for wind but fucking beautiful view I was mind blown by all that But that's how much like the Pittsburgh Cleveland thing is real, which is why tonight is so special no matter who's the head coach That's right no matter who's the quarterback. That's right. These are two football towns very similar to each other Very very similar to each other similar people is each other and they're going to battle tonight In our entire fucking show Thanks that the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to walk into Cleveland and cover at least two and a half Love that we're doing that feels like that might not be the best option But hey, maybe we all wake up tomorrow big time winners in Iowa city hell. Yeah, can I wait to be in Iowa? All right before we do that chuck launch gun try throw football and see what we can do for 25 winners of 500 bucks Don't think about motivational speech coming from time. Yeah chuck. You have not been Remotely close to making this yet like giving like really bad missing the backboard throwing shitty throws like so Let's just I'd say make it obviously try to do that But let's maybe just let's just try to hit the backboard today. Okay, so aim big Miss small miss big Miss miss me certainly the quote, but he's telling you just aim for that area where the hoop would be What we're saying is put that thing in a J. Actually has something to say before your attempt this Yeah, chuck. I think maybe you know take a little dropback and stuff The one shot first off going back to earlier in the program bark Kabley on the one shot is an absolute Emmy Just wait to happen. So please next time he comes on put on the one shot He does a great job solo cam, but chuck you know, you got this you don't need an extra ball chuck first balls going in You're gonna bank it or you're gonna go straight in tell me Probably bank it. Oh Waffle in on this row. Yeah, this is unbelievable. So con man, but your birthdays tomorrow, right? 66 tomorrow I bet they check on that note Connor has this to send you hybrid day man. That's really quite camp six six years What a journey right unbelievable if you don't make it It's gonna be the worst birthday you've ever had so don't even think about it. Don't even think about it Remember what happened earlier you made two in a row back-to-back no backboard just switched and all you did was You took the football you didn't fucking aim it like you have been in completely missing everything like time I mentioned just throw it don't don't aim it just throw it What are the odds here on Chuck making this on if there were draft Kings mark even money come on Charlie No one's taking that I'll say no to some sort of can I off with something across the top? I would like to be able to get you get boost to plus 250. Okay. I'm gonna need that boost to two a thing a little bit I'm gonna boost no to 20. Hey Chuck. Chuck live for your die-hard brother Holy fuck. Yeah We do a lot of pressure right here. Yeah. There's no pressure. Just like you're right. He was back on the golf course. It's been 41 minutes to build up 25 people five hundred of all you got to do is put that NFL flag football into that who right over there like you did two times Before the show started a lot of motivational speeches. Hey That would hit him in the chest wasn't that was not good of a catch Chuck for gunner for 25 people for 500 dollars. Oh That was the line. He went for it. He went for it. That was a good throw. You think one more. Here you go Charlie birthday ball. Here you go Yeah, had a breakfast ball. This one's a birthday ball Bad throw Kind of try to get you out of it different shape of a ball here this time a little bit thinner ball Chuck Pagano would try to win 25 people five hundred dollars. Obviously the whole world watches this Chuck Pagano tries to Complete the impossible Oh over that that was nice just moments ago. He pronounced jacks casino dead and maybe that is jack kind of coming from above Maybe one last attempt here all you got to do Chuck is put that football into that hoop right over there I think it will all make us feel much more confident about your pick of the Steelers minus two and a half tonight and also 25 people Hey getting better yeah your best day I'm a glass girl work boys you do fantastic work boys real panic Situation potentially tomorrow as we take you on the road. Oh, yeah for sure for the lads in the back No, it's probably easier right easier for you guys. They're um, I don't know. I've never done it On the switcher and it will be quite intimidating with the live crowd and everything But our our friend barcode will be present and that's a that's a calming calming thought so we have that. I think barcode here's that a lot. Yeah calming presence. Yeah, he has a calming presence Internet superstar Yes, he is I think he's got more views for what he does But I appreciate his incredible persistence and great work for the program especially tomorrow is we're live from the Pentecost on the University of Iowa's campus Got us correct University of Iowa or Iowa universe. No, University of Iowa Everyone's gonna say that at some school and people get real mad Real mad This guy don't know shit about this place. It's like, whoa, I'm so sorry. Just god University of Iowa, University of Iowa tomorrow the Pentecost. I saw a little layout of it where we're gonna be It should look magical. We have folks who come hang out with us 11 a.m. Local 12 p.m. Eastern life In Iowa City and then I believe following us will be another show and another show and I believe so I believe we are Loading the day up a little bit there live from the pentacrest So hopefully everybody and I will come say what's up and hang out and if not we'll see you Saturday morning 9 a.m. You know big 10 game right right right right Beautiful day. It's supposed to be all right final thoughts here on what we Okay, give a projection on what you think it looks like tomorrow and Saturday and then also the game is well-tied. What do you mean projection in terms of tomorrow just what it would look like Would it feel like how we'll come out of the show saying what tomorrow you think and then Saturday morning game day and then also the same I think this is the most excited people have been for an Iowa game and in quite some time. I mean, yes a Few not not that long ago. They were undefeated very late into the season went to the Rose Bowl Got absolutely killed by Stanford who had Christian McCafferate at the time We were at the big 10 championship when I will played Michigan the year Michigan won the national championship same deal the offense was Terrible. It was all the defense and the special teams So the atmosphere is gonna be crazy. It's get like not only that there's like a you know Caitlin Clark I think is releasing her first shoe today So they have like right on the other side of the street of where we're gonna be That Nike has like this big like activation for like her shoes and shit like that It's gonna be a madhouse and Iowa City this weekend So I think the the overall vibe is gonna be like yeah, I was gonna shock the world Saturday same deal 330 games so people will be tailgating it like starting like 4 a.m. They'll get out there kegs and eggs You know the the whole mind yards There's two ways either I was gonna get killed and they're not gonna cover and Jeremiah Smith is just gonna go crazy He's gonna have a massive day. I think if Iowa is to win this game And I think they can Ohio State gave up a hundred 99 rush yards to Illinois last week So I was gonna have to control the clock pound the rock which I think they can do and their red zone defense has been Phenomenal this year so I think if they can eliminate like the explosives Explosives for touchdowns. I should say so no, you know 60 70 yard touchdowns for Jeremiah Smith I think if they can bend but don't break and hold Ohio State to field goals in the red zone I think there is an avenue for them to win very similar to how they did against Michigan last week like late You know they they're gonna have to dominate the kicking game as well Braden Jackson He ran a kickback for a touchdown last week. So like they they I believe they do have the edge and special teams So we'll see like statistically. I think Ohio State is going to dominate this game, but I You know hey right where we want to be 14 and a half point underdogs outside of people in Iowa City And I wins. I don't think anyone thinks they have a chance to win Let's go fucking shock the world. Hey Jay. What are the buck eyes fans saying over there in Ohio? I think it's just you know quiet confidence. They feel really good about that But I think people in Ohio have a ton of respect for Iowa and coach parents and what they do So yeah, that's why it's it's not like this crazy heated like they you hate each other back and forth I don't know how they feel about Ohio State, but I know Ohio State people don't hate Iowa They respect them, but they they feel very confident going into this one now We will have an incredible opportunity tomorrow to catch up with coach fans. Yep. He'll be joining us live from the Pentecost and a second hour Coach McCallum of the basketball team will be joining us in the first hour live from the Pentecost and then we Shall enjoy the hell out of Iowa City. I got a lot of friends. Yeah, then have Iowa connections. Oh, yeah I mean, I've had a chance to be around so many Iowans so many Iowans just a ridiculous amount of Iowans I mean, talk about obviously Dallas Clark and George Kittle Mitch King AJ Eats Bob Sanders I mean, you go down to this pat anger. Yep, just met a lot of a lot of Iowa guys have played for the Colts and had good careers for the Colts Yeah, and I've had a chance to be around all of them and they are all good dudes who love ball You know, that's a cool thing about the anybody coming out of there is a love ball. You're gonna have to Is there's gonna be a lot of this happening with the Iowa Hawkeyes? That's right forever and ever Hey, man. All right, let's get the hell out of your chuck. Good work this week. Terrible It's a joke. That was a nice hard to make it to always oh boy. It's really hard. I bet you do it like yesterday. Boo Oh, yeah, oh Good news. Yeah, I didn't say anything about you. No, no, no It's just because you already let your flat little pat and go. I was just a little I gotta get down for your boys No, anyway to Sean throws. You didn't get one It's so crazy because that ball is like oh, yeah I used to make all those Huh, that was the ball I made all of them the black balls Yeah, that's what you make sure you get big one. Do you want to throw one right now for all the hard? I did like what you just did yeah So you got hug 25 people five hundred bucks no problem Oh, man almost you're allowed to do that by the way Chuck. You're allowed to do that I don't know what the chuck you've been doing this all the time, but you're allowed to do whatever you need to do We can't thank all love you But not for allowing us to do this for a living it is because all of you Watch our dumb ass shit that we're allowed to do this. So thank you so much We'll continue to do it for as long as you'll have us be your friend telephone some nice of my change of life We're understand together team on me team on three Good work Chuck safe travels Anything for the group? Take no days for granted tomorrow's not promised hell yeah and on that note hopefully we'll see you tomorrow and I will say tomorrow is D on me team on three one two three team. Bye!