PMS 2.0 1630 - Watt Wednesday with JJ Watt, Jason McCourty, Pete Thamel, Everything DB with Darius Butler, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the DraftKings Thunderdome. On this warm Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026, this sports program begins now. Football is the greatest thing, and we can't wait to just jump right into all different analysis and segs talking about how great this football season has already been. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, sweet hoodie. Thank you very much. I just found it in my locker. You know, I was wearing an Iowa basketball long-sleeve shirt, and I just said, hey, it's not quite time for that yet. You know, I know the Hawks are playing this weekend, but we got a game on Thursday. I need some Packers gear today. I know we're doing super football conversation. The NHL starts its season next week. Crazy. Unbelievable. Crazy. Yes. MLB right now about to head into their playoffs. Yep, that starts on Tuesday of next week as well. Okay, so we got the NHL coming back. We got MLB playoffs happening. We got college football in full force, full swing with a full slate of great matchups as opposed to the first couple weeks where we had one or two. And then the NFL is starting to cook. Let's go to nine-year NFL vet sitting in one half of the hammer. Dot. Cowboy's seat. Darius J. Butler. Good to see you, D-Bot. Thank you, D-Bot. D-Bot, yesterday we got a chance to catch up with Devontae Adams. It does feel like this could be a season where old is new again or new is old. What is your big takeaway as we now kind of look back on the first two weeks of NFL season? Well, it's just a week-to-week league. We're always reminded every year. We think we got stuff figured out in the offseason. We think we got stuff figured out after week one. We saw the offensive explosion. Kind of around the league. And then we saw that tapered down a bunch in week two. So now week three. Week four, I think, is when you'll really see the identity of these teams come alive. But I'm excited, man. It's football season. You talked about all the other things going on. WNBA playoffs coming up. President's Cup coming up. But, I mean, it's football season. Yeah, it is. It's football. Right around the corner. I don't know if you saw, the fever last night took on a Minnesota team. Everybody loves this Minnesota team. Favorite. Favorite one at all. Well, Donna Kelsey and JWoww are in town. I'm sorry. Woo! DJ Wow? Yeah. JWoww. In town. To watch Kaitlin Clark and Kelsey Mitchell, who scores a 20-point game yet again for like three months straight. Crazy. Yeah, WNBA playoffs cooking. The Fever are going to win that one. Let's go ahead and understand that that's going to take place. And, obviously, whenever you talk football, you've got to talk about the big guys. Especially on this glorious WAP Wednesday. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us is Keller Commentator for the Arizona Cardinals local radio team. Wow. Love that. What was that, Ty? Just the way that comes out is pretty funny. Because, you know, JJ's in the number one booth on CBS. And then, right after that, the, you know, Keller Commentator for the radio team. And I love it. I think AQ does great work. It's just the juxtaposition there. I don't understand what's happening right now. The juxtaposition was pretty darn funny. I don't get it. I don't know if it was intentional. No, it was not. But the juxtaposition was pretty funny. I didn't like the pop that he made whenever I said that. I was just laying. This is number two radio. Believe me, I know. And, you know what? I wish he was still with Dave Patterson. Because I think they were the best in the business. No, don't throw his new guy under the bus. I haven't been able to hear his new guy. New guy's good. Okay. New guy's good. J.P. Shadrick, good. He's got a name. That's good. J.P. Shadrick. We like that guy. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Super Bowl champion, player coach from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Arizona Cardinals, Baltimore Ravens, Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Indianapolis Colts, A.Q. Shipley. Yay! What's up, boys? Hey, not a bad start to the season there for the Arizona Cardinals. Maybe we're not completely asses. Maybe the story. Is that the story of the NFC West Arizona Cardinals? That was the story after week one. And it was pretty good through halftime. It was pretty good. It was 7-7. I was like, okay, I'm excited where we're at right now. And then things went south in a hurry. A.Q., I know you watch our program and others throughout the week, especially during football season. There's been a lot of things talked about this week. What has not been mentioned? Let's go ahead and go straight to A.Q.'s takeaway from week one or week two. The West is better than the rest. Oh, I get it because it kind of rhymes there. There's only one NFC West team that did not make this graphic. It is the team that he is the color commentator for, for the radio booth. And obviously that's because they're not undefeated. These lads, though, incredible at the football. Listen, I got to see the Seahawks up close and personal. And Drew Locke and Jackson Smith and Jigba. Let's watch Jackson Smith and Jigba on the outside here. Look at this double move. Out, up. Oh! Buda Baker. I mean, a true vet, a true pro. Bites on it. Wide open. First series of the game. Unbelievable. And then they come back. And a little bit later in the game, and you get them again right there on the post. But again, they tried to simulate the pressure. They thought they were going to drop a D-tack while getting the throwing lane. Not for Drew Locke. He's too good. Jackson Smith and Jigba, again, scores two out of three touchdowns. He was unbelievable. So is your takeaway about the wide receiver-quarterback duo or the teams as a whole? Well, I think it starts with the wide receivers. They got unbelievable skill in the West. And then obviously the quarterbacks have to make it happen. They got to make the throws, right? But the skill positions, in particular the receivers in the NFC West, unbelievable. And then Matthew Stafford and Devontae Adams. Obviously, turn back the hands of time. Go for 195 and two tuds on Monday night. They're spectacular. They were unbelievable. And when you watch them and when you watch Matthew Stafford every single week, he makes throws that just wow you. Manipulates the pocket. Moves left. Throws it between four guys. Obviously, Devontae Adams makes the catch. Runs the end zone. This is my favorite play, though. Go to the next one here. Watch this. You're going to fake the outside zone? Nope. We're going to throw the fade. Devontae Adams set that up. Unbelievable how he walked off the line. Sold the run. Then got into the fade. Matthew Stafford, again. To the right. Fakes the handoff. And then, boom. Hits the fade ball. So good. Two vets that obviously know the nuance of football. Working together in a big way. Especially with Puka with the hip injury. You know, he was potentially going to play on Monday night. Maybe we do just wait until Puka's all the way back if they're going to be able to continue to operate like this on the offensive side. Obviously, good run game. Sean McVay has a big brain. And they are viewing that week one game as just not happening. They're 1-0 right now. That is how everybody around there. And then the third quarterback is just. Operating at a surgical level right now. I mean, he's the MVP through two weeks right here. Puts on the brakes. And then he finds Mike Evans on the sideline. Toe tapping. Listen, Brock Purdy's never had a receiver like Mike Evans. Mike Evans is one of the top ten receivers in the history of the game, probably, talent-wise. Unbelievable. Six foot five. Rolling to his left. He's almost better than he is. Rolling to his right. Just throws seeds to Mike Evans time and time again. He is the MVP by far through the first two weeks. Mike Evans is doing a lot of different routes with San Fran than we're used to seeing with Tampa. Bay, right? Doesn't it feel like normally Mike Evans would be stretching the defense, stretching the defense? It's like, how does this guy continue to get back? He ran a couple comebacks, I think, in week one for first downs. Now, obviously, this is just kind of backyard football as Brock Purdy rolls out. Are they using him differently than they use him in Tampa? Or are we just noticing it? No, it is. And I think that's part of the system in Kyle Shanahan's offense. It's a lot of over routes. It's a lot of sideline routes. Like, they're not the big, deep ball down the field. Now, they have that. And they will have that. And they'll get the chunks to Mike eventually. But for right now, he's been. He's been fantastic. And he's such a good red zone threat. You saw in the first week against the Rams, him being able to just say, give me the ball if we get a chance down there in the red zone. They get it to him for the touchdown. He's been fantastic. Okay, so the Niners play the Rams week one down there in Australia. Then they play the Dolphins. And I think Dolphins fans will be used to this. Congratulations to the quarterback that played against the Miami Dolphins. He has won the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. The NFL has announced their Players of the Week. Congratulations to. Brock Purdy, Devin Lloyd, and Isaiah Rodgers. Blocking a field goal, obviously, gets Special Teams Player of the Week on the NFC side. Then on the AFC side, you got the alien Josh Allen. Hezekiah Masses out of the Raiders. Huge win for them. Undefeated still. And Andre Schmidt, who went three for three field goals-wise. Let's go to Hezekiah Masses there with the Raiders. He looks pissed that he won. But I do think he's quite a player, D-Boy. Yeah, I like a mean picture in the old catalog. But, yeah, he's a hell of a player. Two interceptions last week off adjustment. Herbert, as a rookie. So, I love this as a rookie, getting a Player of the Week. That's big time for Hezekiah. Josh Allen winning a lot of Players of the Week. It feels like this is going to become a tradition, maybe weekly, with Joe Brady, his head coach. Happy birthday, Joe. Happy birthday, Joe. Turned 28. Yeah, that's right. Happy birthday to Joe Brady. Maybe 24, actually. I don't know the exact age. He's a young lad. But they say that youthful energy in the building has helped out everybody, including the offense, Josh Allen. AFC East, you thought that window was closed in Buffalo. Josh Allen's taking his big ass. Lumber and body and seemingly opening that thing back up himself. How do you feel up there as a Patriot fan watching your team not play its absolute best early? I feel pretty good as a Patriot fan. I don't know how many defenses go on to win the Super Bowl when you let up 30 points in the first two weeks. But still, when you have Josh Allen, you can probably hang for that long of a time. Honestly, it's just kind of turning the clocks back in general. Chiefs and Bills seemingly the classes of the AFC. Yeah, and Brock Purdy, con man. This dude in the Niners offense as a whole has been unstoppable. Yes, they've had 10 strikes. Scoring drives and 11 incompletions. Brock Purdy was 20 of 22. I don't care if it's against the Dolphins or not. That is surgical. And Devin Lloyd, D-butt down there in Carolina. We've been saying that Carolina is a good football team. Very good football team. Very good football player. Had a great year last year, and he picked up right where he left off for the Carolina Panthers. Isaiah Rogers blocks a kick for the Vikings. Obviously, that was a low-scoring, cagey affair in a monsoon, which makes special teams even more important. AQ, what sticks out here amongst the players of the week? Brock Purdy, like I said, he's the MVP so far through the first two weeks. Josh Allen, he's an alien. We know that. Devin Lloyd, Dave Canales, his coach, said maybe one of the best games he's ever seen a linebacker play. I mean, these guys had a good week, too. Congratulations to the players of the week. That's a big deal. We got a chance to do this last week. Thank you, NFL comms, for sending this over and letting us be a part of this. Because in the locker room, this is very well received. And, you know, obviously we know some of these guys up here. But there's guys that win players of the week in your team that very rarely get recognized. It's cool to celebrate. - Yeah, welcome to the league, Hezekiah. South Florida guy, Broward County guy, too, just got a text, too. So, big shout out to Hezekiah. Okay, we obviously knew that going into the weekend about Hezekiah. And I like what Hezekiah's doing, you know. I like that, you know, Isaiah said, I'm going to smile for my photo. And do they have multiple photos because he's so young they don't know? Or did every photo they told him, okay, this time let's look happy. I don't got it. Hey, this time, look, give your game face. You got it. This one, let's be jovial. You got it, that face. Maybe Hezekiah doesn't play any games. I like that. Stow it. I mean, not bad getting player of the week this early in your career. Maybe he just gets it every single week. Why not? Wow, we might see a run here from Hezekiah of player of the week nods that just doesn't end for the rest of his career. That's possible right now. Hell yeah. He just needs two picks every single weekend. Not a bad start to your career. Not a bad start to the year. You get too early. Obviously, that makes up for a lot down the road. Maybe the Raiders are for you, especially Mad Max man coming off the edge again. Whenever they were going to get rid of him, they loaded up the defense. He's playing well. Raiders might not be ass at all this year. What was their over-under going into the season? Oh, that's a good question. I want to say four and a half. Four and a half, five and a half or something like that. I forget exactly what it was. But it feels like they might have an actual squad deep. They might. New head coach. Obviously, got number one overall pick. Now, we did look at them in the offseason, and we know kind of the trend. We saw with Seattle. We saw in New England. You spend a bunch of money in the offseason. You do. That does a lot of times translate to win. So, Kirk Cousins, we saw him maybe as a placeholder. But he's been playing some good football. So, maybe Mendoza doesn't even see the field this year. And they're 2-0 and haven't had their best player on the roster on the field, Brock Bauer. So, once he gets back, gets healthy, that'll be awesome. I think that was breaking news. He is trending to be back. And I thought the same thing you just mentioned whenever I saw that. Man, they're 2-0 without Brock Bauer. Kirk Cousins is 2-0 without Brock Bauer. Which is definitely his best offensive weapon. Ashton Gentry, obviously, not too shabby at all. You got a chance to see them, or you know them pretty well, AQ? Well, I got to watch a little bit of tape this week. And last week, obviously, I'm taking a notice of them. I'm tight with their GM. And obviously, the defensive coordinator I went to high school with. So, I'm trying to zero in on that. This is the first time Max Crosby. You mentioned Max Crosby. This is the first time in a couple years where he has a counterpart. The other defensive end, Quiddie Paye, he's been fantastic. And he's getting some sacks in week one, getting some pressures in week two. What? Quiddie Paye? Now he knows how to play? Quiddie? Come on, Quiddie. We got high hopes and dreams for Quiddie Paye. He's showing up now. Well, there was moments where it would happen. There's moments where it would happen. It can't be the building, right? It's not just uniform. He got Latte Latte now balling out. Leatu Latu is his name. Big O. And he had, like, how many interceptions last year? A lot. So many. Oh, yeah, one or two. I remember that one. Sweet. They're not saying nice stuff about Tua Don in Atlanta. I don't know. Is he ever going to play? Well, I guess he's not ever going to play, probably. Penix? He's practicing now that Penix said he would start. Okay, see, that's another Dolphins fan back there. The way he worded that is certainly fascinating. Dolphins kind of fired up about Penix, too. He's singing. He's got that big Penix energy. Oh, I remember whenever Desmond Howard brought the entire crowd to their feet with the big Penix energy. He pronounced it a little differently. Yeah, big Penix energy. Well, it's the English language. Yeah. I mean, how are you not supposed to potentially, you know, say things like that? The Falcons are starting Michael Penix Jr. for week three. His QB1 makes his first start. Penix has deemed his reconstructed ACL ready after splitting reps last week with the ones. Okay, the Packers loom on Thursday. So, we got Penix on Thursday. We got some magic on Thursday. Let's kick this week three off spectacularly. This is the first time we have an international game. It's going to be in Brazil. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the reason why this is a Watt Wednesday, a man who will be speaking over a football game on international grounds this weekend alongside Jim Nance. He is a Bullring of Honor member down there for the Houston Texans, in which I believe there's only three of them. He'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer, we think, obviously. And he's an absolute hero. First ever, hey, that's a good guy award from us. Yeah. JJ Watt. Yay! Good guy right there. How are you, JJ? Great. How are you guys doing? Good. Do you remember that good guy award we gave it to you, and then you just threw me under the bus immediately? What was that, five minutes later? Yep. Do you remember when that happened? Gotta have a little yin and yang. You know, keep some balance. Yeah, that's life as a whole. Let's talk about a little bit of balance. How are you going to balance traveling down to Brazil? So, I think time zone-wise, we're similar because we're in the Western Hemisphere, but it is a long-ass travel down there. What are your thoughts on the trip, and how are you kind of expecting it all to go? I guess they said most amount of rain that they have had in that area since, like, 1997. That's a long time. Okay, and obviously. What you love to hear before the first ever. NFL game on a field. You just love to hear it. I'm really looking forward to it. I have never been to Brazil. I am very excited to go to Brazil. Might try and take a little trek up to the Christ the Redeemer statue because it looks unbelievable, and I would thoroughly enjoy seeing that. The fans seem to be very excited. As an announcer, I'm excited. If I was a player, obviously, I'd probably be less excited about a 10-hour flight, but my job is a little less. It's physically demanding now, so I enjoy it. Okay, so 10-hour flight down there, 9-hour flight down there, whatever it ends up being. Vastly different than the Australia situation. Still a long-ass flight. For me, we were trying to map out how we would handle it if we were to do this, which we might. Who knows how many more games end up down there in Brazil, especially with the field. Let's do it. I think you're doing your day. I think we do our day. Okay, we do our day. I think go home, have the evening, put daughter to bed, baby boy to bed. Okay, afterwards, whatever you want to do in that moment. Then I think you're getting to plane or getting on plane 11.30. I think you're going right out here. But we're taking. We got a lot of Advil PM. We got maybe a couple of glasses of champagne, anything else that maybe you utilize there. We're out, what, seven, eight hours. You wake up, you get breakfast. How you doing? It's going to be good. You're waking up. You're just having a day then, right, in Brazil. Is that not the way to go about doing this? That's pretty much what I've got going on. We're on the same wavelength here. It's going to be about a 9 p.m., 9.30 p.m. takeoff, got the bed already set up in the back. I mean, let's be honest here. I'm very fortunate and lucky. It's very nice. I was talking about Delta and stuff like that. You're talking about a different situation. I understand what you're talking about. Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you. We got a nice situation. We're good. This is the number one booth at CBS, okay? I'm going to get a chance to live a good life. We got a bed. It's pretty sweet. Yes, it is. Full bed. Big bed for a big guy. So, I got the bed set up. Yes, like you said, tuck the kids in, family. Everybody's good. We're all set. Hop on board. Straight to the. To the bed. But I have learned this over the last couple years, and it has made a big difference for me. Again, understand this is all very nice to have. I bring a portable fan. I bring a portable sound machine. Got the little eye mask. All set to go. You pop a little magnesium before bed, and you are good to go. I remember you were a guy. Waked up at 8 a.m. You're on the ground in Brazil, and I'm not 100% sure what they eat for breakfast down there, but I know they serve picanha, so I want some of that immediately. Okay, and I don't know Portuguese well enough. That's one of the. I don't think. I know a couple words, but they're not, like, the most positive. You know, learn that from soccer time. If you could just say thank you or whatever for them hosting our football game from us, we would be appreciative of that. I don't know if getting up to the Redeemer is. I've obviously never done it either. I think it's going to be a long trek, I think, from my understanding. A long line, right? I mean, there's going to be. Not planning on walking. You're going helicopter up around that thing? I like that. I don't know. I mean, I feel like there has to be an option besides walking. Don't do that. Are you going to be hanging off the chopper, saluting the Redeemer, the Christ Redeemer? Reach out to TC. Yeah, Tom Cruise definitely has a way to get up there. Go fly around. Yeah, TC could get him up there for sure, but if I'm not mistaken, when the Packers and the Eagles went and played in Brazil, they basically said, don't leave the fucking hotel. Do not leave the hotel. There's a good chance that, you know, you go down anywhere near the favelas down there, you're getting. No, no, no, no, no, not doing that. Don't bring your wallet. J.J., look, it's 10% off. That's not real. That was the green conversation, but that's why they sent the Cowboys and the Ravens there because it's black and purple and blue and white. There was a green conversation about potential, you know, ties to certain things that could drop you into war, and we do all have to understand, in reality of life, not everybody has the best intentions all over the place. We've watched documentaries about places maybe much more so than other places. On that note, I mean, Ryan. Well, that's what I'm saying. He was out and about wherever he was. And look what happened. He did it, though. Well, I know he did. What do you mean, look what happened? Yeah, well, look what happened. He made us all look like assholes. No, I know, but a media firestorm. You think J.J. needs that? You think J.J. needs to go down there and he's just looking for something from the gas station? He goes in and all of a sudden he gets pissed off. He has an argument with this guy and he completely destroys the gas station. Ryan Lochte. It was this guy's fault. Ryan Lochte has completely changed from. Who he was, I think, back in the day, from my understanding. I'm not 100% sure. I think that's the last headline I read. But I think he walked in and just started to go, yeah, yeah, to them. Yeah, knocked the stuff off the shelves. From my understanding. Do you know this, James? I'm just going to stick to the beach. Good move. Cabana. Let's see if I can get some volleyball in. You've got to get out there. You've been international traveling before. There's always going to be things that are said to you from an entire country basis. You need to get your ass out there and go do Brazil. Should be scouting for Burnley, if anything. Get out there. Walk through all the neighborhoods. You're. I got the inside. I'm fortunate enough to get a little friendly with Vinnie Jr. He gave me some very good restaurant recommendations, so very excited about that. So hopefully we can get it set up there. Oh, the Brazilian Steakhouse. You're eating meat off swords down there. Oh, I forgot about that. That's something I'm excited to see. Do they actually do that, or is that just something that we say that they do? Oh, that kind of what we did to, like, St. Patrick's Day and all that other stuff where we just kind of say, you know what? Pretty curious. Actually, that's a good idea. Let's turn it up a bit. And I like that we do that to stuff. I really like that we do that to stuff. Yeah, that thing doesn't turn off green the whole time. Just keep it rolling. Green, no red, ever. And then they got that little soft bread. I don't know how much bread you're eating, but they have those little soft little bread thing that's a bottomless bowl. The cheese inside. Oh, yeah. Man, I'm kind of jealous you're going down there, especially with your little mobile fan. I gimmick that you're going to be running in there with the noise, you know, like you're going to do that. Not that the plane doesn't make that sound already. Yeah, I thought about that. I did think about that. I don't think I need to double down on the sound machine. I think we got our own built-in sound machine with the little noise turbines in the ear. Yeah, yeah. You painted the picture pretty well. Those engines are made right here in Indianapolis, Indiana, so I hope you enjoy the hell out of those. Let's talk about the game. Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. After week one against the Colts, and the Colts are a damn good football team. Okay? Damn good football team. Damn good offense. Now, only three teams in the history of the Super Bowl have gone on to win after starting 0-2. Okay? So that's not the greatest number in history. I think one of them was one of the 90s Cowboys team. The last one is the 2007 Giants, I believe. And maybe Coughlin was about to get fired early in the year with how bad they started. Then they got hot. And then there was one in between. So going 0-2, it is difficult to win the Super Bowl, is what stats say. Baltimore Ravens, I thought they were going to go 17-0. After watching them week one against the Colts, with how great it looked on the offensive side, Jesse Minter will have it figured out on the defensive side. That's why he's the head coach. And then Dallas Cowboys, offensively, they seemingly were able to keep up with the Giants there. Now, what are the Giants? Especially now that we learned Jackson Dart is going to have season-ending surgery. So he's out for the rest of the year. Jackson, Godspeed. That sucks. That's not your fault. Obviously, the injury thing is talked about with Jackson Dart a lot. That injury, freak injury, can't believe it happened. Sucks for the Giants. But the Cowboys' offense has been great. Defense has kind of been great. Well, how do you see this game kind of faring? Let's say the grass is good and football can be played. Yeah. Really excited to see about it. Two teams, obviously, coming off of slightly different responses after week one and week two. With the Ravens, a phenomenal game in week one. And then a bit of a letdown, a fourth-quarter letdown in week two, which is something that's become familiar to them, unfortunately. And then the Cowboys, with the loss to the Giants in week one, but then a great bounce-back game, albeit without Jaden Daniels for the commanders in the second half. But the Cowboys' offense certainly looks like. It's rolling. It does look like teams are kind of shading over and trying to take away George Pickens, which has clearly opened up a whole lot of space for C.D. Lamb to go off and Dak throwing the ball all over the yard. The Ravens, on the other side, they kind of went away from Derrick Henry in week two, which is not something that's generally recommended when you have one of the greatest running backs of all time. And I think, you know, for Ravens fans, the boiling point a little bit was the third-in-one decision to take a shot down. Which I don't disagree with. I don't mind taking a shot on third-in-one down the field, knowing you have Derrick Henry and you got another shot at fourth-in-one. But the problem that I have is that they then punted it on fourth-in-one. So I do see the frustration there. But I would imagine, especially with the way the Cowboys' run defense has been and how good Derrick Henry is, that you're going to see a very heavy dose of Derrick Henry on international grounds because run game and defense are two things that travel. That's the old-school thing. Who knows? We'll see if it stays true. Okay. Tell me about Christian Parker and his defense for the Cowboys. Obviously, against the Giants, there was an eight-minute drive in the second half, another eight-minute drive in the second half, and then a five-minute winning drive in the second half. Seemingly not able to get off the field and not have what everybody thought they were going to have this year, which is a much better defense. What have you seen from the film? Yeah. Week one, they had some communication issues. They kind of busted some coverages. They had some things where it was very clear that the communication wasn't quite there, which is normal. You know, you have a new system, a new coach, or you're working to install that. Week two, it was much better from that standpoint. When I look at them, I think you have to stop the run. They have some injuries that they're dealing with on the back end, which is going to be tough, but you have to stop the run first and foremost, which is something they have not been great at, and clearly in a game like this, you're going to need to be great at when you have Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, who can both beat you. But then they also only have one sack. It comes from Caleb Downs. They've been getting some pressure. They got some pressure last week, but they've only gotten to the quarterback one time. So we'll see what happens there. They've had some guys step up to fill in for injuries, and they're going to need some more of that with a couple other guys out. They changed the green dot, right, to bar him. The rookie now has it. The Colts had this situation. They had it with Cam Bynum, and then they're like, that's not possible. Now they got rookie bar him with the green dot. I know you like the way he plays. I do. I think he's filled in really well. I think he's played well. He had the viral moment in week one, Adam and Parker on the sideline, but then he had this viral moment in week two here with a couple pukes before the play. I think we've all been there. They tried to put the green dot on me, one time, and the amount of speaking that you have to do and how quickly you realize people, including myself, are idiots and have to have the play repeated 60 times to them while you're dead tired and your middle linebacker is trying to run. Why are we doing that? It's unbelievable. You'll say the play, and then three seconds later, four people will turn to you and go, what is it? What is it? And you're just like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I just said it. And so you're dead tired. He's puking all over the place, and now he's trying to communicate while making checks on the back end, and he's a rookie. So much, much respect to Barham for being able to do that so early. Yeah, and good luck as you continue to figure that out. I mean, Cam Bynum for the Colts obviously has the most amount of juice, has a massive amount of moxie, obviously talks a lot, I think, is probably why they thought this was the case. He was at safety, though, so we're running downfield. Then we got to turn around. We got to tell everybody what's going on, and then you have the situation you're talking about. What? What? Well, yeah, I heard that. What else? And then you got to worry about your play. I'm thinking that I don't have to do it. Defenses did seemingly show up in week two, though, more than they did in week one. Do you think there was like a turn-on of will? I don't want to question people. I don't like doing that because football players are obviously tough, but a lot of people say tackling is like want to. Do you think that is the difference between week one and week two, or do you think maybe. No. No, okay. No, I think it's the lack of tackling in preseason and joint practices and guys not playing in the preseason. That's just kind of naturally how it goes is week one is going to generally be your worst tackling game of the season because you haven't been able to live tackle. And no matter how much you, you know, form wrap up or you tackle dummies in practice, there is nothing like trying to tackle a full-speed human being in a real game. So you see missed tackles in week one, and generally you should see them go down in week two. And then here you see just. I still, I mean, I was there live. I saw it live. I have no idea how 43-year-old Aaron Rodgers got up from this hit. It was. Violent. It was explosive. And he got it from the front and the back and he just popped right up and he kept playing. He also made a tackle later in the game where he took a knee straight to the side of the head. So I know he uses some unconventional methods, let's say, for recovery or whatever things. Whatever they are, working. Yeah, it feels pretty good for a 43. He also had, what, his leg bent back. What was that, like, last year or two years in England? I forget what it was. Knee just completely bent backwards. Thought that was it, for sure. Thought career was over at that point because recovery. Comes jogging back out the next play. Obviously, chin strapped off. He feels as if and acts as if and would like to be talked as if he is a throwback old school quarterback. Like, hey, we read the defense. We give the call. We play if we can. Not if we're 100%. Like, he does genuinely feel that way about the sport and the position. But yeah, after seeing him get sawed in half and sandwiched in the same play, I think we all were thinking it was potentially close to demise. Instead, he gets up. They're afterwards. You go, yeah, Mike's going to have started calling better plays. And I haven't been hit like that in my whole career. I don't even know. I don't think I've ever taken one of those before. So, I'll be excited to see how I feel tomorrow as well. Now, more about that game because you were obviously there on the call. Go ahead, D-Boy. Yeah, we've talked a lot about Aaron Rodgers getting beat up out there. But Drake May. Drake May is not off to a hot start right now following his MVP runner-up season. Are you worried about Drake May? What was your vibe with him, I guess, pre-production, going into the game? And then, what are your thoughts coming out of that game? Yeah. I mean, I don't know if worried is the right term, but I think that you're certainly looking at it and not seeing quite the same efficiency, quite the same success out of that offense as you were last season when they were really rolling during the season. I mean, just his stats from the start of the postseason last year until now are quite the contrast to what they did during the regular season. I think having Travion Henderson back is massive for them because he really can hit a home run at any time and take any ball to the house from anywhere on the field. So, he kind of opens up some things and he really can hit a home run and really have to respect that in the run game. But no A.J. Brown certainly hurts the offense, having to spread the ball around a little bit more. But I think if you're a Patriots fan, you're happy that you won and I think the defense is playing extremely well. But there is certainly a sense of urgency in getting that offense up to the level that it needs to be at if they want to get back to and eventually win a Super Bowl. Was it weird up there to not see any trickery from the Jumbotrons behind the uprights during the kicks? That was a. That was an interesting topic going into the week. week i'm very curious to hear your thoughts on that overall uh i think it's a brilliant play i think it is funny now that you have to do the same thing for both teams i like i like that there's still a little bit of home home field advantage at some times and it feels like we're trying to kind of take that further and further out of the game yeah and i also like we're all in this together who uh jumbotron operator music operator replay operator like hey we're all in this game that's what it used to be clock operator definitely felt like if you were at a game and there was one second or no seconds it was certainly one second for the home team zero seconds and i think with the gambling and the hyper spotlight on everything that takes place they have to hone those things in but i don't mind uh distraction basketball happening come on behind a kick you know like if if that is the reason why somebody misses first of all think about the celebration jumbotron operator is having you know that's a moment that'll never happen that'll never happen uh often but if a kicker misses because of that it's like shouldn't have made it like shouldn't have made the kick anyway so there was a couple different ideas and um concepts that people did i didn't really realize this one because i think they whenever vinny was up there maybe zoomed in on vinny's face so like there were some places that were like zoomed in on like vinny's face so it's like right behind the upright and vinny looks up there to look and it's like him just staring at his face like right distracted definitely yeah like i think in college there was one i forget where we at they did that to me where i was like on the jumbotron right but like as soon as i looked up for where i was going to kick i just saw me and i'm like whoa naturally uncomfortable you know it's like just another thing so i i didn't mind it but i did appreciate paginetti saying now let me show you the stats here these assholes are winning because of this thing and it's like the nfl immediately goes all right not everybody's jumbotron is right behind the uprights we can't be doing this every single time we gotta change the rules but i like that we had that going on no stone unturned in the nfl i like that and if you got to get caught doing something you get caught you adjust cool but at least you were trying in in a lot of sports i think that's how the highest level is going to be talk yeah no paginetti does a good job with finding all that type of stuff and putting it out there i actually had him with me up there this week he's he's in that area so it was funny to see him in that stadium knowing that he's kind of the one who made them change that rule the paginetti jumbotron rule hey these people have been taking advantage i'm not saying it's a bad thing i'm just telling you what has been happening because i think a lot of people went up to peg back and then he thought he was against it back and he's like no i'm just telling you like these are the things people are doing trying to win games here in the nfl because i'm not saying it's a bad thing how hard it is to win you got to get after it okay let's talk about another team who had a big time quarterback conversation you worried about drake before we move on uh no not not yet definitely a.j brown being gone sucks a lot no worried about drake he'll figure it out and we can run the ball and we can play defense so let's just get a couple wins and get a.j brown back healthy drake may was an mvp finalist uh this last season obviously a huge huge run for the patriots as a whole there was a guy that we thought maybe could become mvp finalist whenever he gets dropped in a koc system yeah jage we both played with kyler and obviously everyone was curious to see how that would work with koc got cut short early in week one obviously he comes back this week they're two and oh how do you see that working out yeah i'm really still looking forward to seeing exactly how it looks in that koc offense we only got a extremely short version of it there in week one and it was pretty unfortunate in the interception off of the corner blitz there from jonathan gannon and then obviously the brutal hit to the head that knocked him out of the game so we really don't have a great picture of what that offense is going to look like carson wentz has stepped in admirably and done a great job and i think the defense is very clearly the driver at the moment for the minnesota vikings with brian flores and everything that he does to teams and puts them in a blender and lives by the blitz dies by the blitz um but i i'm still really excited i was really excited to be there in week one to see what the offense would look like with kyler so i'm still waiting and looking forward to seeing what koc and kyler look like together okay so once two and oh been there obviously for a couple years now knows the system seemingly well still carson wentz i mean i mean in downpour there are still some carson wentz moments where you think yourself wow he's trying to lose the game for us and then there were some moments where it's like yeah this guy's unbelievable at football do you think koc just wants to know if kyler was the right decision instead of riding the guy who's got you a couple wins like i don't know how i feel about the decision personally and i am a kyler supporter i've lost a lot of money gambling on kyler murray thinking and knowing how good of a football player he can be i'm a huge koc fan i think people understand how i feel about carson wentz's highs and carson wentz's lows because i experienced it but he's two and oh right now you don't really have much loyal no offense loyalty to kyler he just got there this offseason they're not paying him a bunch of money i don't i think that's a big decision i don't mind it i trust koc more than i trust myself i'm not there i don't really know it but that felt like a little bit of a surprise to me it honestly did i mean i don't i there's if you want to you can certainly have a discussion about it but i think there's a reason kyler murray won the starting job and it was pretty clear from from pretty early on that he was going to have that starting job there and their goal is to win a super bowl and these first two wins yes carson has played well and i think he does exactly what you want a backup quarterback to do is go out there and not lose a game for you put you guys in good spots especially when you have a defense that puts them in the red zone on their first possession as many times they did like against the packers and he can go out there and execute the offense i think what they want to see and what they believe that they have in kyler murray is the chance to potentially go out there and do something really special and so they're like i said i think the biggest thing is there's a reason he won the starting job at the beginning of this season and they want to see if they can make their vision of him come to fruition i'm uh i'm pumped to see what koc and kyler can become it's still early in the year obviously so a lot of time for growth and a lot of people are like well if he comes in and struggles with him put carson back in it's like well if they're making this decision they're not worried about right now they're worried about end of season to your point and they're saying the ceiling is the roof and the ceiling with kyler boy feels like it could potentially be much higher than what carson went and i mean you're two and oh in that nfc north against the packers against the bears like that's a very good place to be sitting if you're the minnesota vikings right now i'm sure they're extremely happy let's go away from the nfc north and let's go to the best division in ball the division that sits one and seven afc south go ahead con man yeah jage the houston texans the uh team that you're the member of the bullring of honor for they are owned to now they're this is an unfamiliar territory they went on three to start the year last year still made the playoffs what is your level of concern is it more so hey they played the bills and the bangles both those teams are going to be really good this season or is there a little bit of uh-oh with this offense when it comes to you know weapons on the outside nico collins already missing time cj stroud threw for 350 but they didn't score any touchdowns what is your level of concern what is kind of your thoughts around houston yeah i mean unfortunately that like you said it is charted territory that they have started oh and two before and have made the playoffs multiple times before after starting on two so i don't think the panic is as high as it might be if there hadn't been those experiences in the past to look at and point to um but i think the run game has to be successful i think you have to be able to block having no nico is is pretty true um the first game against the bills obviously a shootout and had a chance down there near the red zone at the end of the game so you know that one goes a different way you're having a different conversation but i think the bangles also clearly shored up that defense a bit the stout run defense there the guys in the middle being able to lock it up so two tough opponents for sure early on but very clearly need to get going quickly here yeah i um i don't know you know i don't know like i normally in my life i'm not going to be able to block it i'm not going to be able to block it you know what what don't you know i'm just normally a believer in domico and cj and they've let me down here i'm gonna be honest they've let me down now early a lot of season left obviously a lot to get figured out but they've let me down in houston okay because they're representing the afc south now another team representing the afc south are you finally conceding and just saying that that's the afc south representation we haven't won the afc south in like 13 years or something and they didn't win it last year so jags won it last year which we'll talk about here in a second okay which i know uh you have actual good thoughts about which i cannot wait to hear maybe that's why you aren't concerned though because they still have six games against the afc south which is largely a dog shite division no uh the colts just took the chiefs there every time oh yeah it's a good point thank you so much i appreciate that now week one that was a wake-up call they did the same thing the rams did with the australia game just go ahead and wipe that one out against baltimore this past week the chiefs to overtime now we got the texans coming to town wearing the rivalries uniforms now we go okay i got a chance to see these gray great demolishers uh that the indianapolis colts anvil anvil yeah the hammer anvil jersey rivalry and that's the helmet yeah this yeah when you see this bucking bucking you around you know i don't like what they're saying about the forest buckner by the way but the great player we're very thankful to have him hopefully he's here forever buying a button when you see this cj stroud's gonna have nightmares he's gonna say what those anvil super duper rivalry gray great jerseys really put me into a blender because cj's had a lot of success in a lot of us has he not oh yeah do we have another dark night themed uniform on a one o'clock game no this is the rivalries uniform okay this isn't indiana knights this is the rivalry it's it's kind of similar and it felt shit sanctioned. This isn't a team thing. It's an NFL thing. Remember, they do the divisions. Yeah, we're doing rivalries. I know what it is. I understand. It is a little similar. What's that? Foxy just told me we're three-point dogs at home in our super-duper great Anvil Hammer Time jerseys. Makes sense. Right where we want to be. Pierce is on IR now. I think his walking was an indicator that he wasn't ready yet. I think we might have had a little beat on that with the walking. I don't think that's just how he walks. I just don't. The guy sucks walking uphill. I mean, he's just not a good walker, this guy. It's like, well, he looks to be a little bit lame there on the foot. He was getting open and explosive, like in reps and practice and during the game. But whenever it came week one and they said he's going to be limited, it's like, what? Limited? I thought we were back. And then you would see the reps in which he was limited in when he was on the field. He was full go. So, I guess, like, oh, maybe he's not in as great a shape as he wants to be. Maybe that's the case. And then, obviously, he re-injures it or re-aggravates it, whatever ends up happening, and he's back on IR. It's like. We paid him a lot of money this offseason. He was obviously going to be a big focal point of our offense. That's a devastating injury. He's fun to watch, man. He unlocks a whole lot. I mean, he just takes tops off of defenses. He makes the big explosives. He's a great player. He's really fun to watch. It does really suck that he won't be out there for a while. Yeah, I'm sure you're really bummed as we got the Texans at home this weekend. Godspeed, Alec. Now, let's go to the AFC South champs. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Jage, before the year we talked about how the Jags are kind of perpetually underrated. Liam Cohen said the same thing. They had a tough one this week against the Broncos. Are they still underrated? Do you think they're still flying under the radar? There may be a couple other teams who you kind of have circled like, hey, not enough people are talking about them or respecting them. And then on the flip side, the Broncos. Is there cause for concern there with Sean Payton not calling the plays? They won, obviously, but they don't look like a Super Bowl contending team, albeit early through two weeks. Yeah, we kind of talked about the Sean Payton play calling thing a little bit last week with the Broncos. And they have a big one coming up here this week on Sunday night. So we'll find out a whole lot more about them and what they're looking like. But when you talk about underrated teams, I think we talked about Jackson on the offseason. But right now, maybe it's just because I'm watching the film of it, preparing for this week's game, or maybe it's because people really should be talking about them. But the New Orleans Saints are not getting anywhere near the amount of love that they should be getting right now. You got week one with the Lions and everything that went down at the end of that game, but right down to the wire. And then you've got the Ravens who. Week one looked unbelievable. And like you said, Pat, looked like possible world beaters, maybe 17-0. And then they have the Saints come to town and take them for a victory. So we know that the Ravens have had troubles at home. We know that they've had troubles closing out leads at the end of games. But I think you have to give a ton of credit to everybody down there in New Orleans, Tyler Shuck, Kellen Moore, and what they're able to do. And it's very clear. People in New Orleans have been very excited about this for a long time. I think the world needs to or is starting to wake up. Well, I think there was a couple years there where everybody, maybe even Saints fans, and we love the Saints fans. We appreciate what they do. That is actual home field advantage down there. It's a scene. It's a festival to go play down there. Oh, yeah. It is a cool thing to go play down there. But it feels like the conversation over the last, what, four or five years was like, ah, they probably don't have the ability to be good. Like that's the cap. There was some pick stuff that had gone on. I mean, it just felt as if they were always behind, way behind, way behind, people that aren't there, don't have access to certain things. Everybody talked about the Broncos with Russell Wilson having to pay him off. I think the Saints have been like that for multiple years. So it was just like an expected they're not going to be good. Kellen Moore, I think, even goes in there with like, hey, you have a little bit of time here to kind of figure it out. Last year, towards the end of the season, what we were seeing was Shuck was like, maybe this guy's a quarterback. Then this offseason, Alvin Kamara could have left, could have been pissed off, said, no, I want to be here. A lot of good news coming out of the Saints this offseason, and obviously it's paying off for them. They go for two against the Lions, which we respect and appreciate. Them doing that for ball in overtime could have tied that up. That game could have been a tie. They inevitably lose because of that decision. But I think we like what the Saints have done, and we're incredibly happy for them as a whole, because they were expected to be asked and were asked for a while, J.J., and that's not good for a great fan base down there. It deserves more, obviously. No, fully agreed. Incredible fan base. That place, when it's bumping, it is bumping at the best. So happy for them because they're also, they are currently in that underdog role. And when you have, a team that performs the way that they're performing right now, and you also feel like you're the underdog, that's a fun place to be when the city and the team are on the same page. Go to that top five passing yards. Let's go to the NFC South, shall we? You got Tyler Shuck. You got Bryce Young in there at number two. Carolina Panthers might be a great football team. Might be a great football team. Who's that at three that everybody was questioning? Who's that at three? I can't read it. I don't see it. Oh, the only guy without a win up there. Yep. Jeez. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Everybody wanted to talk about it in the offseason and all this and that. But, I mean, clearly still have some things to figure out for sure. But let's not act like it's like a full-blown slouch down there. Is that without Nico too? One of those guys? Yeah, he had 350 last week without Nico. Dolan Schultz had 140. Probably more worried about the defense right now. Well, that's why I'm saying I don't think, because I always just assume that that's going to be good. If you watch it, it's like not. And that's what I was alluding to. But I don't want to question their defense going in this weekend. There's no reason for me to. No. And they played Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. I think it would be good. Nobody would clip it and probably replay it or anything. No, I didn't say that. I didn't say that at all. I mean, you could. I'm just saying you could if you wanted to. Like, if you had some things you wanted to say about it, I don't think anybody would use it as motivational tactics. The Houston SAC station. Houston, we have a problem. Yeah, I'm not doing anything with that defense. They're so good, actually. I love them. And they've just had a couple very tough opponents. That's what they've had. Very tough opponents. Josh Allen goes nuclear. Joe Burrow doesn't. Joe Burrow does his thing. Yeah. And then now Danny Dimes coming to town. Uh-oh. I'm dancing. Coming to town? Or is it in Indy? Well, I guess if. It's the Stroud House, so. No, it's not. Danny Dimes is coming to the Stroud House. I didn't mean that either. I didn't mean that. Don't clip it. It's the Loud House. We got signs up there now. This might be like a 195 game. Lou Anarumo's defense has had a historically terrible start. More yards for the first two weeks than any other team, by a 200-yard margin. Okay, so they're up over 1,000. The second most amount of yards given up over a two-game series to start the season was 884 or something. Lamar and Mahomes. Exactly. Hang on. Run that back for me. Run that stat back for me. So through the first two weeks, I think we've given up 1,096 yards. It's the most through the first two weeks in history. The second most is like 884 yards or something like that. Yeah. In the history of ball. Yeah. And who's second? It was like the 90s or 77 Seahawks. But I also believe, just from hearing the stat. 1,029. Okay, total yardage given up by the Colts in weeks one, two. That's the second most I can find in the first two weeks? No. We saw a stat. Hembo sent us a stat that said it was the most. It was like 884 or something. Yes, and I'm also pretty sure, just knowing the stats of it, that the Falcons, I mean, they almost gave up 600 yards week one and Bryce Young threw for like 280 week two. The Falcons might have also broke that record and be number two. So offenses are just really good right now. Or a couple defenses are just really, really ass. Yeah. And it feels like the Colts are the assest of ass. Lamar and Mahomes. Very good players. Two of the best. Two multi-MVP. Pretty good players. And now you have the third leader of pass yards in the NFL, you know, coming into town. All right, let's talk about a quarterback that had a great first week. It's a tough-ass league, man. It is a freaking tough-ass league. Hard-ass league. Hard-ass league, man. It's a freaking hard-ass league. It's a must-win. Dang right. Did you hear that? Steichen said that? Must-win? No, he said after first week, it was a wake-up call for the guys. Oh. Next second week, he said, it's a freaking hard-ass league, man. What do you want? It's not wrong. It's not wrong. It is a hard-ass league. Exactly. Yeah, it is freaking hard-ass league. And you do got to find a way to win. Yes, you certainly do. But we've lost nine straight, I think. Ooh. Nine or ten straight. Yeah, the Sauce Gardner stat's crazy that he hasn't won a game in U.S. soil since 24. That is crazy. That's crazy. Okay. There's a lot of stats. I don't think people know. I was talking to somebody about this yesterday because they were asking, like, you know, early in the season, a team that's 0-2, how bad does that really feel? I don't know if people outside the buildings, and trust me, I know how passionate fans are. I know how into it they are, and I know it can absolutely ruin their week. But inside of a building, the week after a loss versus the week after a win could not be more different. Every second of every day, that loss and the plays and everything. And, yes, you're trying to turn the page and do all this. It is on your shoulders the whole week. And everybody. Especially if you give up over 1,000 yards on defense. Like, that week is miserable. We didn't give up 1,000 in one week. Okay. He's getting a little dramatic right now. He's getting a little dramatic with the way you're abusing these stats. But there's a lot of this, too. A lot of finger pointing. Coaches. In a bad team. Well, if you're losing every week. A lot of that. There's a lot of, yeah. Everybody gets nervous. Everybody thinks they're getting fired. So, everybody thinks they're getting fired. So, everybody's trying to knock. So, linebackers, coaches are certainly saying, D-line, not holding up anybody. You know? And then, you've got secondary coaches being like, well, if we could get home, what do you want us to do? Like, everybody is trying to deflect. I've only been a part of, I think, one losing season. Two losing seasons. I think one. Almost the ultimate losing season. When we almost got. Good brag. Yeah. My football life was pretty good there for a while. I'm going to be honest. We had Pat White in college. And then, Peyton Manning. He's pretty good. And I had Andrew Luck. I mean, it was. It was. Nice. little ride i had a nice little ride you got out you got out you got just uh yes i did yes i did did i see maybe you were the reason maybe you were the locker room glue guy that held it all together i do think that i had been an asset uh for the locker rooms i was in i do think i was an asset for the locker rooms i was in i do believe and i think that has carried over to this life here as well i do think that but i had nothing to do with it uh i just like that for and you had to go so you thought you were an asset and some others thought you were an ass hat and that's why you had to go go where what was the reason go where go where leave no i just didn't want to focus on punting balls when the offense failed anymore you know like that that was just kind of something i didn't really want to do anymore it was like there's a lot of other things i would like to focus on i love ball will always love ball but whenever like you have a job that only 32 people have and you're trying to be the best in the world for it for your team for your city for your legacy it is pretty all-encompassing you know and if you happen to have a brain that has like a thousand ideas at all times and you're just constantly worrying about punting a ball whenever the offense fails after three downs it is a it was just a little bit of a tear you know it was a little bit of a tear wanted to kind of do some other stuff but i still love ball and still love the call so it was a it was a juxtaposition yeah i do believe as a whole it's a really good point because like that's one of the biggest things i've learned by far of retirement is how much of your life is literally focused on what you're doing and how much of your time is focused on what you're doing and how much of your energy time focus like i knew it obviously how much of it was directed towards one singular thing of football but until you're done with it and out of it and you have to even for me it took multiple years to realize like i really really tied my full identity life everything up into this one thing and there was an entire world that i wasn't even paying attention to caring about and realizing how small and minuscule my actual piece and it all is and it's it's a pretty big realization when you come to that revelation yeah it's a it's a it's an enlightening experience to kind of be able to kind of not be obsessed you know and when i would i would i was very lucky that i got to do stuff off the field as well like the bob and tom show here in indianapolis very lucky to do it obviously was able to do some stand-up shows to raise some money and do this all stuff and as i started like really finding fulfillment in those things and like giving back and like figuring it all out then i thought i was like rude to the position i was holding i was like i am one of 32 there's a lot of people that would like this job like me not being fully committed to this thing while i'm doing all there was just like a lot of things that kind of went into it where it was like i didn't think i was treating it with enough respect as i continued to do all the off-field stuff as well and anytime i would miss i mean it was oh this guy remember tuesday morning he thinks he's some comedian i would uh hit a one one hit a bomb so that led to the best performances out of me to be clear because i didn't want to get like kind of held over me but it was just a weird balance it's a weird balance towards the end there yeah i mean i saw josh allen talk about it and i talked this week about being a father and how that changed his whole perspective because he comes home and realizes like my child doesn't care about anything that i just did and i absolutely agree when i had koa like that was it was my last year but i do wish i had that perspective earlier where you treat it just as seriously from a preparation standpoint but you're able to just let it all go once you leave the building i don't i don't think there was really any time my entire career that i was able to let it all go yeah i think hall of fame speeches are always like to my wife thank you you know what happened i mean i was you know every one of them to my kids i wish i could you know but this doesn't happen without you know i'm sorry but also pretty cool life we're living i think you know it's like always uh it's always one of those but that's everybody at the top of every profession i'm also learning are all you know kind of psychos but it is nice to be able to kind of compartmentalize life and work and uh yeah football does not really let you do that that's why these nfl coaches uh are hobbits and they live in their offices for entire football seasons now there's another guy that i do think is addicted and obsessed with becoming great and i think he was very worried about what this season was going to become and uh he got carted off had towel over his head took towel off tears and eyes mm-hmm you know damn right right here like he's vince papali almost which he is for chicago i will say as a whole comes out it is a hamstring now i have said and will continue to say that reaction is coming from real pain right there okay on the ground whenever he's hitting and i can pay hamstring is something that is very very painful there's a reason why the uh sniper thing has been talked about whenever people pour their hamstrings like he's got shot literally in the back which has happened to other hamstring injuries before we all thought it was over for caleb this season we were very bummed out turns out not going to be over for him just this situation as a whole jage kind of how you took it in where you see it now i agree with your full assessment uh a pulled hamstring while running full speed not fun hurts like hell that's not enjoyable whatsoever like you said the pain in the moment's real uh the thing i like about caleb like yes we all see like probably a little over the top on the cart off and with the fist pumping and everything but caleb does seem to be able to like not really care and like have some fun with himself and he like he's at the cubs games he's doing the chance with everybody he so i can see caleb being like yeah maybe that was a little ridiculous but i'm going to lean into it i'm just going to have some fun with it and this won't affect him in the way where some other people might be like yeah i probably shouldn't have done that or like that was maybe a little ridiculous i think he can have some fun with it and come back and who knows maybe this is his touchdown celebration the rest of the year like this is the chicago like yeah maybe it's bear paw on the left hand big thumbs up on the right hand yeah there's a chance but we can't and the mustache makes it all so much better like having that mustache makes it look 10 times better especially as a chicago bears quarterback i mean it all kind of goes together but we can't like state enough hamstring pulls hurt like hell i mean they they hurt like hell they'll get everybody the carting off i don't think it's the towel i just i just rang the bell at the hospital you know like that that is kind of drag yeah like no but also that hurts like hell i don't think it hurts like hell i don't think it hurts like hell i don't think i would assume i think it is all the towel with the reaction afterwards that really got us into a full tizzy you don't know what he's going through right there i don't he's gonna be praying that his hamstring heals very quickly and he just wants him and god i think in his head at that moment he had the towel over his head he was thinking about like damn i've worked so hard i'm gonna miss so much time and then he literally in his head was like no my body language not good right now let me give these guys something positive before i get off the field i don't want them to think i'm down that's really what i think happened in that moment okay well we're going we appreciate caleb handle himself that way we can't wait to 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got morning football and we're going to have a good time with the football coming up we already have international football coming up and let's go to the talks of table at possum connor and that's high schmidt what are you what is your problem i might sleep in for that one no alarm clock on we have american football in germany i do believe between the colts and the commanders a nice little how do you do in the morning you get on draft kings let me see where everybody's sitting at right now under yo i'm not talking about just for that game i'm talking about a sunday morning as a whole no alec pierce no jayden daniels come on did they do this on purpose who do this on the league every time we have these international games say for they would never do it obviously for like a cowboys ravens game it's like hey you guys do whatever you can do to be healthy when you go over there colts commanders shit if you guys want to leave 30 guys back home and then go over there and just play with whoever you got left feel free that's not what they're that's kind of what it feels especially not in germany which i believe this game is in hasn't not been is it germany i'm not i'm not sure i know uh patriots lions is in germany it's in england okay so it's in england of course i knew that i'm very thankful that it's in england i got to play England. I like the celebration of American sports that happened over there. The Colts are looking to get a big-time win in England. They're trying to get a big-time win at the Lott House this weekend against the Texans. They'll get a big-time win at Park and Law if that's where you want to play the Indianapolis Colts. I get that, and they know it's a freaking hard-ass league. So, you know, you get a win in international or on domestic soil, it don't matter. Well, make sure you get your wake-up call then whenever that starts, okay? Because that's something else that happened to the Colts. That's at BostonConnor and at Ty Schmidt, super pumped up about growing the game. Nine-year NFL vet sitting in one half of the hammer. Cowboy seat, Darius J. Butler. What is that about? I don't like that one bit. The Colts are a must-watch television. They just took the Chiefs to overtime on Sunday night. They did, and I'm interested to see if they are in or out of this shite division that's coming up. Because that is the question. I know it's a moral victory, which I don't like moral victories. Nine losses in a row, that's tough. So, yeah, I mean it's hard to disagree with what Ty's saying right now. Okay, this does not need to be what this is right now. Honestly, I would say it's more so the Commanders than it is the Colts. Thank you. For sure. I really would. Now the Colts are a big part of that, but I think it's more so the Commanders. Okay, so then it's not a big part. Oh my God, what if that sauce is first win? It's international. Then you guys go 1-16. What is going on? But then you have everyone over on pitch! Okay, let's continue to move on. Falcons out there, or Jets out there. We have international football next Sunday morning. Yeah, we do. We have international football Sunday afternoon. Let's get excited about growing the game in these other countries, seeing these phenomenal athletes who are really good at what they do. Do we have a goofball altcast? Maybe like the Incredibles altcast or something like that? I don't think we're doing any of that. And let's not bury any altcasts. No, I know. I like those. They're goofball, but I like them. Monsters Inc. last year with Sully. Spongebob was awesome. Toy Story, Andy's Room. Incredible. Yeah, listen, we like them all. Love them. Grow the game. Grow the freaking game. It's all about eyeballs. This guy gets it. Ladies and gentlemen, the Wolf of Wall Street, A.Q. Shipley. The Big Green Machine altcast? That was my favorite. You like the Big Green Machine altcast? I mean, my kids watch. That was the only time my kids have ever watched football with me. What is that? I don't know about you got the name wrong. Big City Greens, pal. There it is. Big City Greens? That's a snack? No, I think it's like a kid's show. Oh, I don't know. What age were that? Orlovsky was definitely the commentator for sure. No, that was Monsters Inc. Big City Greens was a hockey broadcast. Wait, bro! Oh, my God. Some respect. Disgusting. You kind of sound like Albert Breer. Yeah, it was one of those. Was Albert Breer the one who attacked hockey? Who attacked hockey players? Yeah, that was Albert Breer. I love Albert Breer doing that. And I assume he got sent a lot of tweets about like, hey, dipshit. Over a thousand, I believe. These guys are playing with like actual broken legs out there. They're playing 82 games, and it's every single night these guys are just getting it. It's ice. Kachuk couldn't tie his own skates. He had a broken sternum, and he was still playing. Scored. They tied his skates for him, picked his dead-ass body up, and said, go play hockey. And he just skated out there all of a sudden. The hockey players, I think football players would even agree, because football players have hung out with hockey players as well. It's like hockey players are built different. They really are. Not all of them. There's some little, you know, in every sport, I think there's all. But I think there's a natural toughness that has to happen to play hockey. Like, even as a kid, you get through high school, college. If you make it to the NHL, I assume you've been through some, you know. Oh, yeah. Just, even the little soft ones in comparison, they've definitely gotta prove it. Yeah, they've had to get through it. So we're just going unanimous? Hockey players are tougher than football players? No, I think we certainly have some representatives, but you gotta remember, like, I'm a football player. You're tough. I agree. Four off-seasons in a row. I did battle back through, and I made a pro bowl with a dislocated kneecap. That's why the Caleb thing was tough. Nobody talks about that. He's tough. He hasn't missed a game. Got sacked 68 times his rookie year. Yeah, so you tell us about what's toughness, what's perceived toughness. I'm gonna say it. I think hockey players are tougher than football players. I think per capita. They play through more. I think they definitely play through more. I don't know. I mean, you know. For sure. No, I don't know, actually. They don't have to put out an injury report. Yeah, which is a whole other thing. Like, we don't even know who's hurt. But after the fact, like, that's part of the hockey thing in the playoffs. You know why they don't put out the injury report? Because they don't gamble as much? No, because they don't want guys on the other team targeting the guys who are injured, specifically where they're injured. Oh, like football. Yeah, but you know how they target over there? They got a weapon. You know. I don't want to see that Florida Panthers talk around after this, but. Yeah, you're right. I didn't even think about the weapon of a helmet. Do not call them soft gumps. Sounds like you are. They're tough. Sounds like you're siding with Albert Breer is what it sounds like. Oh, you Canadians are so dramatic. I speak for myself, alright? I think it's pretty close. Football players and hockey players, pretty tough guys. No doubt. Pointing that out, I think we have so many different varieties of bodies in football. Like, so many different varieties of positions. You know, like, a quarterback human, vastly different than nose tackle human. But I do think you have to be tough to play football. Like, I'm not saying you don't have to be tough to play football, but I think the hockey guys and they got 82 games. Yeah, but I mean. And then two months of playoffs after that. Just think about a running back. Just one game. Just a running back that gets 25 carries. So we'll say. In 20 pass reps, they got to sit and pass or take. Somebody just. So we'll go trenches, backers. That's who we would submit, right? You got to be pretty fucking tough to play quarterback, too. Yeah. Yeah, especially Aaron Fink. Yeah, I mean. He's getting this one as well. You're taking those big-time blindside shots. Think about, like, even guys that you wouldn't like. You would look at Eli, man, and you wouldn't say, like, oh, tough guy. Like, guy didn't miss a start. Brett Favre. Yeah. Get blasted routinely. So even, like, the pocket guys, like Ben Roethlisberger, Phillip Rivers, he played with an ACL. Leftwich, he was playing with a broken leg, getting carried down the field. Man, that's just. That type of stuff happens, like, every year for hockey. They're tough. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But we're. You know what, Albert Breer? Albert Breer tweeted, hockey players are tough and all, but let's not pretend the physicality of the two sports is comparable. It isn't. And I think that's because there is physicality every single play of football. There's at least five guys fist-fighting with four or three guys every single play. Well, the other interesting thing, too, with football is you only play a week apart, right? So sometimes it takes guys five or six days to piece themselves back together just to play again. In football? I mean, in football, yeah. The hockey people would argue. Yeah, we play back-to-back. We go back-to-back. Well, that would also say. But you wouldn't be able to in football. You can't play three games in a week in football. Correct. But if you were to put a hockey player over there, would they be able to? No. And that's just sports. Are these guys tougher than the troops? You know, why don't we throw them in there? It was just a bad tweet. We're not talking sports right now. I think Butts said it best. I think they're both around the same. I think Breer went wrong saying it's not comparable. Yeah, okay. They're very clearly in the same realm of physicality. It's just so many games. Like, so many games. And to miss a game in that particular sport, no matter who you are, it's like a gigantic ordeal. It's like you almost get questioned by the entire culture. And they still fist fight each other. It's also, there's just that lasting image of a guy taking a puck off the face and getting like 40 teeth knocked out and having a bunch of stitches and then coming back in like 20 minutes later and playing the rest of the game. Like, that shit's crazy. Hey, I like our sports. And then obviously, you know, boxing and MMA, pretty tough. Yeah. That was pretty physical. That's two, three fights a year, though. Right. So there's a lot of recovery time, which we're not saying is necessarily an end-all, be-all, but it is certainly a part of the conversation. Joining us now is a guy who might have a say or two in this whole thing. Brother-in-law Stanley Cup champion, hockey player. Huge mitts. Huge. Some of the biggest mitts I've ever seen. And also, who's that center from Clemson? McClain? Eric? Oh, yeah. That guy had frying pans. Those were abnormally large hands. I think if you were to shake his hands, you would say, what the hell are they? This has got to be 6X gloves. That's what this has to be. Nonetheless, ladies and gentlemen, a guy who's going to talk about the toughness of hockey and football. Champions in the family. He's a college football champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Your thoughts on the conversation we just had? I like it. It's an interesting conversation. I mean, I think they both are very, very tough. I think there's different kinds of toughness, too. Like, who is more mentally tough? Hockey or football players? You tell me. I don't know. I truly don't know. I think that's the thing. Like, I ask, if I talk to hockey players, like, oh, man, this guy I saw on TV, he's the toughest guy alive. And then an NHL player, like, no, he's not. He's soft as butter. Like, no, he's not. You know, they all have their own, like, opinions, I guess, and what they, like, they know from the inside out. They do a lot of chirping. So, when you talk about mental toughness, over there, it's kind of just, like, accepted to say, like, terrible things, I think, to each other. Well, and that would go to the 82 game point, with, like, the mental toughness, where it's like, yeah, I have a broken hand, but I have a game tomorrow night still, so I'm going to go out and do it, whereas when you have that weak recovery, like, I think that would give the edge to hockey players when it comes to mental toughness. Well, mental toughness, your follow-up question, could be a counter. It's like, so many games, so does every game matter? Do you even get, like, you know, because for 17 games, every game, every play, every shift. That's what makes football special. That's what separates football from everything else. It's like, there's so much riding on every single play in every game, really. Well, and that could go back into what you were saying is like the mental toughness it takes like if you're on like an 0-7 team and no and, like, hey, I kind of just got to keep going and doing everything. And, like, we're probably not going to make the playoffs next year. But, like, you can't stop. Like, you just have to keep going. So then in the hockey world, if you're on a 10 and 30 team. Exactly, same deal. And you're rolling into a very good team's ice, you're not just able to skate through that one. If someone wants to fight you. Yeah, you have to show up there, I think. So what we're saying is it sounds like – go ahead, AQ. I would argue, too, the fact that when you play three or four games in a week in hockey, right, the prize at the end of the work is the game. The hardest part mentally is the practice. It's the rehab. It's the Monday through Saturday in football, I think. So these guys have optional skates. I don't think there's a ton of practice during the season when it comes to hockey. But they get a prize every other day, right? Whereas, like, our prize is Sunday, and then you have five or six days of work. And in those five or six days of work, you're spending long extra hours, early mornings trying to get the knee and the ankle and everything back. And the hockey players are saying, practice, talk about the game. Gosh, those practices in mid-November when it's 13 degrees outside, you got to play outside. I'm watching you guys miserable as hell, you guys. I'm just trying to gas you guys up. Yeah, those cold games, that's another thing that they don't deal with. Those zero-degree snow games, hockey players don't deal with that type of stuff. But 84 games now. Sorry, not just 82 games. We just got corrected. But they do have to deal with cement and walls. Well, sometimes. Sometimes cement do end up in the skates because the lads have been in it. They got walls, and they got ice. Yeah. You know, that's every single time you hit anything, we're worried about turf. And the fact that the tougher it takes to sit there and block the goalie and all the stuff they're doing, trying to deflect. Like, this guy is firing this thing, and it could hit me directly into the mouth every single game. That's tough. Hey, good on you, lads. But you have to remember, and I said this at the very beginning, and I would like to reiterate it. I count as a football player in this conversation, and hockey players will bring that up immediately. They will certainly start pointing at kickers and punters. So we apologize for that happening to you guys because of what you have to do. But it's certainly a part of the argument, I would say. But they definitely have a specific sect of hockey players that they would, if we were to really look into it, that would be in that same type of grouping as kickers and punters, especially the guys that don't fight. Like, there are guys on every team that are just there to score goals. That would be pushing to that. Interesting. So we'd be fighting each other. So, like, whatever. You're specialists. So that's a different group. Bingo, yeah. That's a different group of, you know, we've got Blake Groupie. Like, we're not going to point at him and say, okay, this is the – But the hockey players are going to say, hey, you've got a Blake Groupie in football. Blake Groupie, incredibly tough, by the way. Yeah, exactly. And mentally tough. Unbelievable stuff. So just like if two football teams are going to fight, punters, kickers, snappers, goalies in hockey, they fight each other, you're saying there would be a group of hockey players that the kickers, punters inspect. Now, some of the punters now, you're talking – Oh, yeah. 6-3, 6-4. 6-5 guys. Tom Wilson sized. Yeah. And Tom Wilson's not fighting in this group. No. No, Tom Wilson has to fight the guy. Tom Wilson is representing hockey against, like, the offensive linemen and such. Trent Williams. Uh-huh. Linval Joseph versus Tom Wilson. Not a good matchup. Yeah, is they on skates or are they on – One round each. One-on-one. Yeah, I guess you would have to go on sea and – Frozen sea and on land. Yeah. Yeah, to really find out who gets sent to the sky. And, like, to play an injured thing, like, I just think of Thomas, Davis with his arm looking like a football when he played in the Super Bowl against the Broncos. He broke his arm, like, two weeks before and it was sewn up. Joining us now, Super Bowl champion. Might have a take or two on this. His brother, obviously, also in the NFL. He, fantastic on Monday Night Countdown and across the board on ESPN. Super Bowl champion, Jason McCourty. Yay! Hi, Jay Mack. What's up, fellas? You've heard us debating about this. Where do you land? How do you feel about the toughness of the two particular groups of athletes from hockey and from football? You know what I mean? We obviously know I'm going with football. I heard Ty mention, imagine being 0-7. It just brought up nightmares of my one season in Cleveland. He's talking about 0-7. Imagine being 0-15 and it is completely gray outside. You're getting ready to go play the last game of the season in Pittsburgh. You're sick as hell. And your defensive coordinator, Greg Williams, says, don't even think about skipping out on this game. I'm like, but, Coach, we're not going. We're not going to win. We have no shot. And it's two degrees outside and you still have to go play that game. You're practicing on a grass field that is completely frozen. But for some reason, we're still outside and we know we're not going to the playoffs. So, mental toughness even well beyond the physical toughness that it takes to play the sport. And that's just my story. There are many others just like me that have gone through the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions who have had to experience something like this. You a hockey guy? Do you watch hockey? No, I'm not a hockey guy. I've gone to a Predators game before at all. Okay. A little bit of a hockey guy. You should maybe get into hockey. Good sport. There's not many of us out there on the ice. So, I'm still trying to figure out my way in. I wasn't introduced to hockey as a kid. Didn't know anyone that played. So, I never got into the sport. I think it's cool to attend the games. I don't know if I'm watching. D-Buzz is probably the only guy I know that tweets about hockey of my friends. Growing a game. Hold on, hold on. Growing a game. What's going on here? You're welcome, Gary. Growing a game. Put me on the glass. J-Mac, pick a team. Will you please pick a team this NHL season? Nashville. All right. Nick Saban owns that team now. So, there's a chance that they… They stink, though. Nashville, baby. No, pick a different team. Will you please pick a different team? Will you try a different… Honestly, love the Predators. Weird kind of name, but love the Predators. Love Nashville. Love Coach Saban. Love all that stuff, okay? But we need you to have one with star power. We need you to be interested. We need you to stick with the sport. The sport is great. The sport is a great sport. Long season, you won't be able to watch every game. You'll just be able to keep up with it. Let's go to Panthers. Tough, physical, fast. We just got another black guy. So, we got Jonesy as well. Oh, yeah. What? What are you talking about here? I'm just saying, you heard what the hell he said. You don't see a lot of us. 30% fast, guys? What did you think? I thought you meant just professional athletes. Because I was like, there's a lot of professional athletes out there. Us, me, AJ, and him on the screen. I didn't know. I thought he was just talking about ex-professional athletes. Oh. How are the Rangers? The Devils? Can I go with one of them? Local team? Devils, Jackie Hughes. Yeah, there you go. Jocko? Yeah, I would go with Jocko Hughes. That's an American hero there, Jock Hughes. Had the goal, obviously, to win it all. Indeed. I know him. Okay. Devils fan, man. Devils super fan. There you go. J-Mac loves hockey. Yep. Loves hockey. Biggest Devils fan I know. Okay, let's talk a little bit about football, shall we? Monday night, we got a chance to be there. Aaron Donald makes his massive return. Story of the game. Aaron Donald getting back into it. Has three tackles. Obviously, one tackle for loss. Huge goal line stand. He's a part of with Naj with the running game. Obviously, place goes crazy to see him back. Jackson Dart now, we are learning. Season-ending surgery to his knee. There was a lot of positive momentum. Seemingly, what our eyes saw was a nasty bend. Wasn't as bad. He was able to maybe bounce back or even get back into the game. Your storyline coming out of there, Giants dead? How do you kind of view season for both teams that we just saw on Monday night? Yeah, I'll start with the positive. I thought the Rams looked like the team that we anticipated them to be. They went to Australia and just left their game in L.A. They picked it back up and showed up for that game. Matthew Stafford looked like the Matthew Stafford last year that won. He won an MVP award. How about that guy on the screen? Devontae Adams, 195 receiving yards. It looked like he had turned back the time as he was dominating any and everybody who tried to cover him in the Giants secondary. So that offense got clicking. What I was extremely impressed by was Chris Shula and the Rams' defense. It felt like that first game against the 49ers, they were playing catch-up the entire game. And you're looking out there and you're saying, well, where's Miles Garrett? Where are all these guys? Where's Trent McDuffie? Jalen Watson? And I felt like watching them Monday night, this is what I imagined the scheme would look like. McDuffie, man-to-man, following the best teams around receiver. They were sending five guys at Jameis Winston. He had no time to throw the football. It was just a dominant performance by them on the offense and defensive side of the ball, regardless of who was playing quarterback for the Giants. They just looked like a team that could contend for a Super Bowl. And on the other side, for the Giants, man, I flew from Jersey. So I was. I was on the plane with Giants fans who said they got tickets on Friday because they were surprised at how well the team was doing. And it was an opportunity to go to L.A. There was so much excitement with the Giants. I think specifically the Eagles and Cowboys haven't looked that great. So the Giants going into week two, why can't we compete for the division? Without Jackson Dart, I just don't see it. You spend your entire offseason. You bring in a head coach that I'm sure went there because of Jackson Dart. You bring over Matt Nagy, Greg Roman, Brian Callahan, all of these offensive minds. To build an offense around that guy who is completely different than Jameis Winston, who's now going to try to come in. And they're going to have to change the offense to fit Jameis and see what they can do with it. Yeah, and you know, obviously the conversation immediately goes to are they going to trade for a quarterback now? Because of how Jameis looked in that first week. Once again, backup quarterback, not an easy position. But the reason why Jameis is there is because he should be a good backup quarterback. Maybe against the Rams defense, nobody was going to look good that particular evening. So we'll see what Jameis can do for the Giants going forward. forward. Trade wise, though, there are some names out there that have been available, allegedly, over the last couple weeks around the league, and especially with the style in which they play. And Harbaugh's over there. He's J.J. McCarthy on the move. He's J.J. You know, there's a guy here in Indianapolis, Anthony Richardson. Would he not be able to fit the mold of what they could potentially look for? Would Greg Roman be able to design a run game around Anthony Richardson? Definitely, from our understanding. Could he complete the passes? Who knows? If they bring somebody in, how much does that change? And what does that say about the rest of the season, you think? Like, what are our expectations? Like, you flew over to L.A. with the fans that were like, hey, let's chance go to L.A., we're good. Then you fly back with the fans. They're like, another year of being asked. Is that what you experienced with him? No doubt about it. Like, you didn't even see any jerseys on the plane ride home. I feel like people just put them in a suitcase and was just like, I don't even want anyone to know. That's how devastated we are going back to the New York, New Jersey area. The Anthony Richardson of it is interesting. I was on with Jordan Rodgers this morning. He mentioned Joe Milton coming over from the Cowboys practice squad. Have to give up a ton to get him. And he has some attributes that could help. The question you have to ask yourself at this point in the season now, you're getting ready to go into week three. So, say they get a trade going next week. And let's just use Anthony Richardson for an example. How fast can he come in, learn this offense, be able to operate this offense, and also do it at a higher level than Jameis Winston, who's been there since all offseason, April long, learning and mastering this offense. I think that's the challenge. Like, the quarterback has to know it all. So, for Anthony, Anthony Richardson, can you get in? Yes. The skill set, being able to run the ball, having a cannon of an arm, I just don't know that you can pick up an offense that fast to be able to go out there and execute it and do it better. AQ just wrote on his dry erase board, Tyrod Taylor might potentially be a good option. No, no, no, no, no. Jordan Love might get killed this year with that Packers O-line. They're not going to trade him. He used to play in Baltimore for John Harbaugh. No, he was kind of that world. Get a first-round pick for him. He might be starting for the Packers week five. All right, okay. So, there's a lot of those situations as well. All right. Let's pivot away from Monday night in that situation. AJ has a question for you. J-Mac? Yeah, J-Mac, the Cincinnati Bengals come out to a hot start, which they have not had in the past few years. I guess, do you think they are for real? And what's so different about their defense? We know that Dexter Lawrence has come in and made a huge impact, but what do you see when you watch this Bengals team who will be taking on the Steelers this Sunday? Man, I love what I've seen from Cincy. I think they're going to be in that AFC conversation when it comes to who's going to be representing in the Super Bowl. What I've loved about their defense, they've been fast and they've been physical. And you mentioned Dexter Lawrence. It starts with him up front, like him just moving people out of the way. It sets the tone for your defense. But if you go back and look at them against Houston, there's different opportunities and chances where they're lined up in blitz zero, all out blitz. Everybody's at the line of scrimmage and the DBs are playing off. I just think the mentality of the defense has gone from a year ago where Joe Burrow and that offense is so prolific and it's almost like they've been dying of slow death on defense as teams have moved the ball up and down. It's like, well, maybe we'll try to just force them to kick three. Now they look like in an aggressive attacking style defense and they're going after you. And I think that's a big part of when you go out in free agency, not only is it about signing guys, but it's about signing the right veterans. Everybody that they brought in has made an impact. Jonathan Allen, Dexter Lawrence, Boye Mafe, Brian Cook, all of those guys have made plays two weeks through the season. And it just, it just changes your complete defense. And they have guys on the outside that can cover. DJ Turner is one of the best corners in the league. He's following guys, shadowing, and they're showing you through the first two weeks. I mean, they completely shut Houston's offense down. They could not run the football at all against them. - Okay, so on that note about running against the Cincinnati Bengals, Hembo stat, running backs totaled 2,031 rush yards versus Cincinnati last year. That's the most in the NFL. The Bengals have only allowed 78 through the first two games of the season. Okay, so they are obviously different. Dexter Lawrence. And you talk about a Boye coming in and multiple other signings. It's like Dexter Lawrence, as soon as he got there, felt as if he was now the voice of the team. I mean, he was, there was moments of him chit-chatting to Joe Burrow when he sat down and did his press conference. It felt like he was very excited to kind of represent Cincinnati. And I think obviously anybody that's been around him, they love this guy. So whenever you talk about changing an identity, changing a culture, and you talk about bringing in the right guys that fit, it's like, it feels like Dexter Lawrence would fit in anywhere and Cincinnati is lucky as hell that that happened to be the place that he ended up going to. Trey Hendrickson, they let walk out the building and stay in the AFC North with the Baltimore Ravens. So you wonder if they were sacrificing some on defense. It's been a complete opposite over there. Good for Cincy, man. - Yeah, unbelievable. - Good for Cincy. Indoor practice facility, right? We have an indoor practice field over there. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's a bubble. - Oh yeah, it's just a bubble, but still inside, at least getting to do their practice. Jamar Chase just went crazy. Two touchdowns this past week. Tee Higgins going insane. Joe Burrow, Joe healthy even though there was a little bit of a worry there or a scare there. Seems like he's okay. Defense playing good. Special teams is good. Is Cincinnati all the way back? Is this a Cincinnati that we potentially envision from years ago whenever Zach and Joey B got together? Can they stay healthy? That's the only question. We said that about Jackson Dart too, J-Mac. It's like, can Jackson Dart stay healthy with the way he plays? Unfortunate hit. It wasn't his fault in that case. Can Joe Burrow stay healthy? That's the entire question for the Cincinnati Bengals. Can they protect his ass? We shall see. We shall see. Let's stay in the AFC North. Cincinnati Bengals have a big one against Pittsburgh Steelers. Go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, J-Mac, with the Steelers, the biggest conversation right now is Joey Porter Jr. on that defense. It sounds as though, or at least reports are saying that he might be making his debut this Sunday off the couch against Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins. What do you see as that situation kind of unfolds? Do you think he will be back? Do you think that it's probably smart maybe to not go up against Jamar and Tee Higgins, your first game back? With no experience before this game? And do you see teams reaching out if the Steelers continue to kind of go down this path of not being able to score any points? Yeah, I think for me, if you're reaching out as a team, you're reaching out to his agent first. You want to know, what is the number that's going to get a deal done? Because if you're going to make a trade for Joey Porter Jr., you're going to want to ink him to a long-term deal and one that both sides are going to be happy with. I got to imagine if those conversations haven't already been had. He's going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. So at some point, you do got to get out there on the field. Because if you're going to go into free agency, you need to prove that you can go out there and be that guy. Why not go out against Cincinnati and let that be the first game and go show them against two of the best in the league, Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase, that you can get the job done. So I think that would be a boost to the Steelers secondary. But in reality, the defense isn't the issue right now. Pittsburgh, they can't score any damn points on the offensive side of the ball. And it looks like pulling teeth whenever they try to throw the ball beyond 10 yards down the field. So to me, that's been more of the struggle than what's gone on on the defensive side of the ball. Whoa, J-Mac. Let's head to Hammer-- Time, time. Tone, what do you think about J-Mac's breakdown of the Pittsburgh Steelers? And where do the Yinzers stand on it at this moment? Everything he said was exactly correct, obviously, because it's J-Mac saying it. The offense has been horrendous. The offensive line has been turnstiles. And the defense has not been a problem at all. So yeah, I think everything's great. And the Steelers fans very, very mad at the head coach and the offense. And they love Patrick Graham, the DC, and everything on the defensive side of the ball. So yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, Mike McCarthy, there have been some AI edits of him with different things on his body, head, and face. Did you laugh at him, though? Nope. Yes. Are you sure? I didn't see those. I did not. Tony. Me neither. I mean, they're funny. If stuff's not funny on the internet, I'm going to laugh at it, whether it's AI or not. Not me. I don't laugh at any of it. J-Mac does, though. I could already tell. This guy's laughing. He's laughing at AI images on the internet. I'm waiting for somebody to send me these images. I haven't seen them yet. Smart. Stay in that world, bro. Stay in that world. Because once one opens up, guess what your algo says. Here we go. This one looks kind of real, but you'll understand it's not. They love it. Yeah, just wait. The beginning looks real, and then boom, there's something coming at the end. Can't be laughing at him, though. No. Even if it's the most ridiculous, absurd-- Yeah, pretty funny. --never going to happen in the history of-- and I'm not talking about the big one. There's others that have obviously hit the internet. Yeah, well, that one. I mean, Arch, they took his legs from him. Guy can't even laugh anymore. Arch, we all understand Arch is in a situation now where he's probably never going to talk ever again to anybody. It's awful. But also, I think Arch knows that that was-- the risk-reward of that particular answer just, I don't-- in the time in which we live right now, not good. And I appreciate Holly coming out and saying her side, and also supporting Arch. But we're in a weird time right now. We're in a very weird time, where there's access to a lot of very powerful things to basically everybody. I forget who had the joke. There was somebody who-- Rodney Carrington, maybe? And he basically talks about two-star people in a five-star hotel, and what happens, and what those types of people. He was talking about himself, where they let him into, and just the way he views things, and how he utilizes things versus how the other people do. I think we got that with AI. Right now, we can all kind of just tap in there. And I'll tell you what, some of us just aren't supposed to have that type of access. And we're at a time and stage where everybody can say whatever they want. And I've been on the receiving end of a lot of these things. Mike McCarthy's already there as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Yinzers are pretty talented down there. They got good jokes, and they got access to make full feature films. That's an interesting time to be alive for Mike McCarthy. He's just got to lock in and play a little bit of offense. Big microphone. figure it out. He certainly will. A.Q. told us. He set our expectations for the Steelers offensive line coming into the season. I said it. Everybody called me a big dumb dipshit when I said Steelers offensive line has me concerned. Well, how do they look? Well, they could have been the best offensive line in the league. You still would have said that. Yeah, because you hate Pittsburgh. Because you hate Pittsburgh even though you're from there. I don't. Joe DiNardo is from your same hometown, your same high school. The greatest weather meteorologist in the history of earth. And you just basically said, I don't even know who that is. It's like you have a disrespect for the city in which you're from. I just watched tape. That's it. The tape speaks for itself. That's what I did. All right. Well, it seems like you. Nothing to do with the city. Turn on DiNardo's tape then. Yeah, turn on DiNardo's tape. You didn't miss one time on the Doppler. That day I went to golf, he missed. Okay, so one time Joe DiNardo said. Did Jay Mack know about DiNardo? Jay Mack, do you know who Joe DiNardo is? No. I thought you were a pretty well-versed man. I thought you would have known this type of stuff. I thought you would have known. Something. Somebody learn me. Teach me. Who am I missing out on? Joe DiNardo. I say he created the Doppler, but I don't know if that's actually true. I just know that he read it better than anybody. Because Michael Jordan was a weatherman. Yeah, he was. Exactly. Serena Williams, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan. There it is. Miss you, Joe. Joe DiNardo on the Doppler. Love you, Joe. This is the man. He died recently. He did not. He died in 2018. But it does feel like just yesterday when we were listening to him. Never. Kind of do it all. We appreciate it. We appreciate Joe DiNardo. Shout out to Joe. Shout out. Well said. Finally. Yeah. Joe said it would, and it did. I mean, that's what we grew up doing. And this guy can't even show him respect. He went to the same high school as the guy. So whenever you talk about AQ talking about Pittsburgh, AQ has a little bit of an issue kind of giving credit to his hometown, which we don't love. Not one bit. No. Not one bit. I love Pittsburgh. I've been back more in the last year and a half than in the last 15 years combined. I'm back. Okay. I like that. Good news. So you did hate it before. Yes. It was J-Mac. Good call, J-Mac. J-Mac, see, you mentioned about Cleveland being gray, right? That's the world I grew up in. That's the world I know. And so when I moved to Arizona, it's a lot easier to stay in the sun. Yeah, Pittsburgh. A lot easier to stay in the sun. I believe Pittsburgh, actually, a stat came out, has the most amount of rainy days in the year than anywhere else. Shout out, Joe. Shout out. I'll tell you what. Maybe Joe did have a little bit of fishing with dynamite type situation happening with Pittsburgh. You know? It's going to rain. It's like probably a pretty good call, Pittsburgh. It is. Joe knew it. He played it on your schedule. Joe freaking knew it. Joe knew it. Played the games he put on your schedule, brother. All right. I appreciate Joe doing that. Okay. Speaking of the games on the schedule, there's some teams that have a long shot. J-Mac, we talked about this on Monday Night Countdown. A lot of people talked about it on Sunday. Teams that are 0-2, only three Super Bowl winners in the history of ball. Teams that are 2-0, I think it's over 60% of the Super Bowl champions start 2-0. So it is normal for a team to come in. Play good at the beginning of the season and finish the season well. But some of these 0-2 teams have been able to go on a run in the past. We were involved in one of them. Yeah, J-Mac. Even Joe couldn't have forecasted at least these four teams. The Bucs, the Texans, the Chargers, and my Colts being 0-2. Out of those four, because I'm not even going to mention the other four. Out of those four, who do you think can get hot and go on a run? I'm going to look at Houston to get hot at 0-2 to go on a run. They were 0-3 last year a season ago, and as much as I love you guys, Indianapolis, Colts, and I know there's been some type of simulations that have said the Indianapolis Colts have a great chance at winning the Super Bowl. It's not looking likely when you look at some of those numbers that Pat just read off. But if I'm looking at a team, I'm going to go with Houston because I'm a believer. That defense looked like themselves against the Bengals. The offense without Nico Collins is just missing a lot, and they've got to figure out how to run the ball. But to me, they have all the talent to be able to do it right there in the building. So if I'm picking one, I'm going with the Texans. Okay, so, yeah, AJ asked to follow up there because in the middle you talked about AI or something. What are you referring to with this simulation? Did DeFlo put something out? Yeah, just one of my colleagues on Countdown just had a ton of faith in the Indianapolis Colts, and AI told him, like, you should have that faith because the Colts not only are going to the Super Bowl, they are going to win the Super Bowl. So I think when you see things of that nature, it's hard to forecast that you're going to end up in L.A. with an 0-2 start. So, I mean, they played tough Sunday night. It was a good game, but just the result of the game, nonetheless, was a no. Yeah, and the result certainly matters. And I like whoever that was that was sending into the group just all the AI simulations. Fine gentleman. Thank you. That's not said a lot about that guy publicly by a lot of people, especially in this profession. So thank you for saying that, and thank you to whoever that was that was sending in not only these two simulation. There was a Madden one, I believe, as well. I mean, every fake football thing was telling me that the Colts – sorry, I was the guy that was doing this in the chat. I just kind of outed myself there. Every fake football thing that has a super brain was telling me that the Colts were going to be good. And that's why I was a happy season ticket holder just a couple weeks ago. You know, I was finding a lot of faith. Then the Baltimore Ravens do what the Baltimore Ravens do. Then they lose to the Saints at home next week. It's like, well, maybe we're not good. But then, you know, we take the Chiefs to the brink. We get to overtime. Then with three minutes left, we kick a field goal, though, and then Patrick Bowen's on the other side. And inevitably, I think everybody on earth knew what was about to happen. I think – I assume if you would have asked any of these AIs that simulated the season what was going to happen, if you give Patrick Mahomes only having to get in the field goal range with Harrison Bucker's leg with three minutes left to win a game at home on Monday night football or on Sunday night football, I think that the AI simulation would say, yeah, he's probably going to be able to do that. Now, Shane Steichen had to witness that in real time and learn about it. But, yeah, the – Three teams won the Super Bowl, started 0-2. Three teams. Sixteen percent, though, since the expanded playoff era, have made it to the playoffs. So that's a lot more than zero, obviously. Sixteen percent is a lot more than zero. And me and D-Bot have been a part of a team that started 0-2 and then made it to the playoffs. Yep. Now, it's making it to the playoffs. What we're looking for after we pay quarterback, running back, DB, wide receiver, offensive line, kicker I think we paid. Two firsts for a corner. Yeah. I'd be happy with that this year. Yeah, I think you would be pretty happy. We're nowhere near a rebuild phase at all. Like, we are so deep in this. Hey, second contracts, a lot of guys. I like our guys. Yeah, you got, like, four years of really bad, bad fanhood. And then the Colts are on the up and up, baby. J-Mac, this is the way everybody's been talking. So I appreciate you hyping me up on a regular basis because we got Joe DiNardo finally getting acknowledgement, it sounds like. Yeah. Speaking of acknowledgement, I was on that 0-2 team, too. I was starting at center, so. Were you starting? I didn't know they let you play. Yeah, yeah, I was starting. I was starting. We lost to the Eagles week, too. At home. Really? Oh, Monday night. Yeah. I don't remember that. Yeah, I appreciate that acknowledgement. Speaking of acknowledgement, that was cool. That was cool. Oh, boo-hoo. Hey, always counted out, AQ. That was cool, man. Always counted out. The trenches. Yeah, absolutely down there. Yeah. Now you guys have the same record as my Titans. Don't do that. Okay, you know what? Do you want to be a part of this segment? Scarlet Knights, too. No, people don't do that. I think they're 3-3. Oh, they're 1-2. Hey, what's the point differential for that one? Great cover against USC. I don't know. Rumor has it if they lose this week, the Big Ten's kicking them out, saying, get the hell out of here. Oh, you guys not saying? No, we just, big game hunt. We'll take it. We want Notre Dame. You want West Virginia in the Big Ten? I don't think you want that bad. Yeah, I want all the East Coast teams back in there. Yeah. Big Ten wouldn't let West Virginia in for the same reason, allegedly, the SEC wouldn't let West Virginia in and the ACC. And I don't know if that's changed at all, but. I hope that our academic standards are a little bit higher and maybe a little bit more desirable for some of these conferences. Got to be. I didn't like that. I called Commissioner directly, both of them. Soft, not letting West Virginia in, making us fucking fly across the country to go play against these. Like, we just can't do what you guys do academically in our conference. Okay, that's quite a precedent. I'm like, we'll work on it. Thanks. Kids are going to class now, I heard. It's good. It's a big deal. It's a good point. We would pound the Big Ten. Could you imagine us playing? We're playing Rutgers right now. It would be a thousand to nothing. Just like the good old days. What's that? I mean, Rutgers, you singled out one team. There's plenty of teams in the Big Ten to choose from. We're not worried about any of them. Northwestern. Northwestern, no problem. That Penn State game went well a couple years ago. Oh, no. You don't want that smoke, brother. There was a rain delay in the Penn State game. That's right. If you do recall. I do. You guys had all the access to all the big money stuff at that time that we didn't have access to. That's right. It was a two-hour rain delay. You guys pounded us afterwards. And I'll tell you what. I'd love it. I'd welcome the challenge. Welcome it with glee. We need a couple more years to build up our bigs. Okay? Give us a couple more. We got true freshmen starting an offensive line for us right now. That's fine. And they might be freshman All-Americans. Guess what Iowa does? They reload every year. It doesn't matter who the fuck you guys get. We're going to have five O-linemen, two of them returning All-Americans. You have that this year? Yeah, we do. We do. Two preseason first-team All-Americans on the offensive line. You know, we kind of just reload. We rebuild every single year. So, again. But you guys never get – because you don't care about academics. We do care about academics now. We do. More than ever. You know, Penn State does. We do. Illinois does. You know, Ohio State does. Everybody in the Big Ten. Ren Baker, okay, and Mr. Michael Benson, president of West Virginia, and A.D. Ren Baker are getting our academics up to where they need to be. They're already there. Okay? Quarterback Michael Hawkins, Jr., from my understanding, has a five-year history. - 5-0 GPA. I don't doubt that. 5-0. Yeah, he's even better than a 4-0. I don't doubt that. Wow. Thank you. Offensive lineman, Kevin Brown. Yeah. 4-4 or something like that, GPA. I don't even know how these guys are getting up above 4. I thought that was straight A's. Our guys are super geniuses, going to all the classes. And Rutgers, they're not going to class. They're not going to practice. They're not playing the games. You let them in the big thing. Well, we were trying to grab the New York market, and I think now we know. Not a great idea. Get him out. Okay, let's see. Oh, Michael Hawkins, Jr. has been named Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week. Wow. Another dub for West Virginia. And he's doing it in a classroom. Let's go. That's right. And he's doing it in a classroom, J-Mac. That's what we got going on here. J-Mac has to do another show here in 17 minutes. He's on big day with big shrags breaking down. Hell yeah. All of the big plays. J-Mac, we have a segment here that we launched last week that we were wondering if you would like to be a part of the second annual. I would love to. Okay. The segment is called the Shite Division. In the NFL, there's obviously four in NFC, four in AFC. They come together, 32-team Super League, the NFL. We added one division. It's going to be called the Shite Division. Now, you can get promoted out of it, and you can get relegated into it. You can live in it forever. There has been some things that we have kind of created. For instance, if you lose to a Shite team and you haven't won yet, guess where you're headed? To the Shite Division. You can work your way out of the Shite Division, which is a big deal. This is last week's Shite Division. We'll have you reminded. AFC-NFC Shite Division of football. At the top of it, the leaders in the clubhouse. The shite-iest team in the NFL after week one, Cleveland Browns. Then your Tennessee Titans, the Indianapolis Colts, and then the Los Angeles Rams because of the egg that they laid in Australia that they're probably not even going to count as a game whenever it's all said and done. J-Mac, any disagreement? Any disagreement after week one on that Shite Division as you're getting introduced to this segment in real time? No, no disagreements there. Those teams stunk it up in week one, so I would agree. Okay, so let's go to this week's Shite Division. Okay. There's promotion, there's relegation, and there's a team that might call this place home for the foreseeable future. Yeah. New leader in the clubhouse, shite-iest team in the league. Congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons. Wow. Good work. They earned this one. They've earned this one. Big time. Now, Michael Penix, starting quarterback. Kevin Stefanski's praying to the football gods that this guy can play quarterback in his system. He has not boded well on the football field as a head coach and an offense coordinator over the last couple years. Cleveland went terrible. This is going terrible. Is Penix the guy? We shall see. But we do know they're officially a part of the Shite Division, Conman. Yeah, unbelievable. And if anything, any team we've seen so far, they've got the guys to do it. Bijan, Drake, Kyle Pitts, all that. But from what we've seen thus far, I expect Stefanski to be shit-fast. Stefanski, for the rest of the year, by chance in the AFC and NFC Shite Division. Well, especially Atlanta Twitter. Atlanta Twitter is. That is not in the Shite Division. No, they are elite, elite. Yeah. Especially in this particular situation. J-Mac, any disagreement with the Atlanta Falcons being the ass-lanta Falcons, if you will? If you've watched any of their games, then you are 100% in agreement with the Atlanta Falcons being there. But, hey, Falcons fans, have some hope. Michael Penix, Jr., just. Just have some hope. That's the only thing you can do right now with what you've put on film the first two weeks. We'll have to see whenever we unveil the next three teams in the Shite Division. But talking about having hope, there might be a wholesale change of this week's Shite Division versus last week's Shite Division. Really? Maybe. Maybe have some hope. The next team is a team that might also call this home for the rest of the season. We shall see. Congratulations. Welcome back to the Shite Division, Miami Dolphins. Wow! Picks up. Dumpy, AFC East, representing. And in the Shite Division. What's going on down there in South Florida? We survived week one. We're going to live here for probably the next 16 games, I imagine, the way things are going. Malik Willis, though, we still like, right? Yeah, he can move. The offensive line, Austin Jackson might be one of the worst offensive linemen in the league. He's kind of just letting anybody get to the quarterback. But there's some good signs on defense. Dante Trader, yeah, Rodriguez has been good. Zach Seeler, one of our highest-paid players, I'm a little worried about him. Might be a little long in the tooth. Okay, so I didn't know we were going to get PFF breakdown from Dumpy there. I thought he was just going to be pretty bummed out about the Miami Dolphins being in the Shite Division. But I think he probably echoes the sentiment of a lot of Dolphin fam community. They are also solid on the internet. Let's go to the third team announced after week two in the AFC-NFC Shite Division. Congrats to the Chargers. Never would have guessed this, J-Mac. Never would have guessed this. With McDaniel coming over, it's a Jim Harbaugh team. This is the first time Jim Harbaugh has been 0-2 since like 2001. When he was a backup quarterback for the Chargers. So this is very rare, very unexpected. I mean, that's the Shite Division in a nutshell. You never know who's going to end up there, J-Mac. You never know. I mean, the Chargers almost could be at the top because they lost to two teams that you fully expected to own the Shite Division this entire season and the Cardinals and the Raiders. And those are both the teams. And now you look at their schedule over the next month, they're not going anywhere. They have a long stay right here in this division. That's crazy. That's a good point. I didn't know that you would potentially want to shake up the Shite rankings a little bit here immediately, but I guess we do have to look into it. I guess the point differential for them being a favored team in the first two weeks is like the worst in the history of the NFL or something like that. With what they're expected to do versus what they did. But I still have faith they'll be able to figure it out over there and not live here forever, even though their schedule looks to be quite damning. The Chargers own the worst cover margin, minus 39 of any team favored in each of their first two games since the 2003. Eagles. Yikes. Just an absolute ass beating when nobody was expecting it. Sportsbooks can be wrong every once in a while, but it feels like maybe the Chargers are wrong across the board. They're in the Shite division, not the number one ranked shite-iest team. Who's the fourth team that's going to be making it in this week? It is, congratulations, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa! Now, they lost to the shite-iest team from last week's Shite division. So that automatically sends you into the Shite division. That is correct. Is how we kind of started working that. AJ, any disagreements with the. the Shite division from this particular week? Even if it's a shake-up in the Shite-ier rankings? No, I actually kind of agree with the rankings, one through four here. The Bucs are a bit surprising. I guess I know the Colts were held out of this because they had a moral victory, technically, against the Kansas City Chiefs, which I guess there is such a thing as moral victories when it comes to ranking the Shite division to keep you out of it. But let's see which one of these teams can maybe climb out of the cellar this week. I don't know. The Falcons have a big game, what, Thursday night with Pennix? Yeah, clean sweep from last week's Shite division. You know, we took it from the European Soccer Leagues. You should be able to move up and move down. Some people might be living here, and for their fan bases, we say sorry. That's absolute shite. Congratulations to Jake Pierce. He's the one who got it right first on X. Hashtag program Shite division. He didn't have them in the order, though, which we will be looking for next week because it is, at the top, is the shite-iest. That's a leader in the clubhouse for worst football team in our eyes. And then you go down. He went alphabetical. Yes, exactly. So maybe he got a little bit of assistance from an internet source. Oh, yeah. Also might have thought that the shite-iest goes on the bottom because that is the exact reverse order of what we have. So nonetheless, he gets a win because we did not clarify that. But in future weeks, we will be looking for the shite-iest team at the top. Okay. And then follow suit down there. Congrats to Jake. We will send you an autographed, probably NFL, flagged football. Oh, you son of a bitch. It's a good ball. It's the perfect tailgate ball. Just would like to let everybody know. I don't know if these are for sale anywhere. They should be selling these. Great ball. This is the ball. You can kick it. You can punt it. You can throw it. You can spin it. And it can survive if you happen to give it into the cement or house or something like that. J-Mac, that was the shite division. Any disagreements out of you? No disagreements. I'm just happy the Tennessee Titans, they leveled up and they got out of the shite division. That's what I was hoping for as the last team. I have my fingers crossed outside of the screen and the fact that the Titans are not in it because they almost beat the Philadelphia Eagles. That is the most important thing about the shite division this week. Colts almost beat the Chiefs. Moral victory. Big moral victory program. Well, no, no, no. No, no, no. This is determining who's the worst. In the shite division, that's all they have is moral victories. Okay? We can't just completely remove those unless you're the Cleveland Browns. That's valid. Yeah, they got out of there somehow, some way. All right. Good luck on big day with Big Shroud. Greg's breaking down all the big plays. That's Monday Night Countdown and ESPN Pundit J-Max. Okay, before we get out of here, I think we do got to do something that we started last week that made me a smarter football fan. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to dive into D-Butt's situational rapport. Now, D-Butt looks a lot of pizzazz in this particular photo. Obviously looks dialed in, ready for a cocktail event or an investigation into something we need to know. This week, D-Butt's situational report revolves around what and who? This week is about the money down. It's about third down. And when you talk about the money down, you got to look at the guy making all the damn money. Big time game record, JSN, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. He is the third down king as you see on the bottom. And as a defense, you know where the ball is going. So I would like a little more adjustments, but we'll see how the Cardinals play it here. You can let it roll, Foxy. Right now, you can see one, two. So Jackson, Smith, and Jigba is lined up at the number two receiver spot. He's in a slot. So he's mad. matched up on Buda Baker. Matchup you want, I don't care who you are. Corners don't want this matchup. You definitely don't want this matchup as a safety. The adjustments I'm talking about, you're on that island. You want to keep that leverage. The only help you have is that potential safety in between the hashes. He's far away. JSN, he knows the leverage. He's going to beat it, gets outside, and comes back down towards the line of scrimmage also to protect his quarterback, gets the first down, moves the chain in that red zone. Great job. I would just like to see some more adjustments by this. Who's the defensive coordinator out there? I know you know. Ty, you know who it is? Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, it is former WWE superstar Madcap Moss, who, if you remember, he used to be one of Happy Corbin's goons. I believe his brother is the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. Madcap's brother is the DC of the Cardinals? I believe so. What's his name? Nick Madcap Moss, right? That's right. Okay. Nick Rollis. Nick Rollis. Close. I'd like to see more adjustments. As a defense, you want more tools that you'd be able to adjust, maybe double team JSN. Here's right here, another third and seven. You know, kind of right out the fringe area, high red zone area. Now he's lined up at number one. The Cardinals decide to bring pressure, which I don't mind. You're bringing pressure down here at the bottom of the screen. Drew Locke did a great job. Obviously, we're talking about JSN, but it starts with the quarterback handling pressure, knowing where to go with the ball, kind of fading away from it. And once again, you have three underneath, three deep. So you only have six guys in coverage when you're sending five on the pressure. And once again, JSN is going to get to the spot, just a press out route. Away from the safety. Once you see that middle close, you know you got one-on-ones on the outside. Find number 11. Make a throw off your back foot with a free hit on your face. Big time throw by Drew Locke. Now let's get to this red area. Money down once again. Now, when you get kind of third downs down here, it's either going to be all-out pressure or all-out coverage. The Cardinals decide to go all-out pressure. Safety quarterback, you identify that safety. Wingard, he's in the middle of the field right now. Once this, okay, send that motion out. Boom. Now I got pressure. I know I'm going. I'm going to my one-on-one. Nobody's in the middle of the field. Beat the leverage once again. Give up the slant as a corner. Don't love that. That's a big thing down here. Keep your inside leverage if you don't have help. He makes a great throw over the defensive tackle. And then the last touchdown. We saw the big play. AQ mentioned it. That was the second touchdown. This was the third one. Third and six once again. Now you have JSN at the number three spot. And we're going to go zone coverage, right? So now as a quarterback, you got to beat these zone defenders. Not only the deep ones, but the underneath defenders. Zach Wilson having a pretty good year. And I think he had a pretty good drop here right in the middle of the defense. Once again, Drew Locke does a great job standing in the pocket. It's a good pocket. JSN, he's lined up now with the safety. Budda Baker, once again, he's outside. You're going to widen him just a little bit. Run this skinny post. And now Locke has to beat that free defender. And he does with an absolute dart. So JSN has been the best wide receiver in ball on third down. And Drew Locke has been tremendous on third down as well. He was seven of nine on the money down pass. And this. So big kudos to number two. Obviously, Sam Donald's back. But he's done a great job keeping that ship steady. Seahawks are up to 12 wins in a row now. Yeah, great situational report there. Third down, obviously, massively important. A safety blanket for a quarterback's a big deal. Drew Locke has to make these throws. I mean, he just layered that thing over a linebacker. That is what you hope for out of a backup quarterback or even a starting quarterback in some places. JSN, a nice weapon to have outside, especially whenever it matters. Absolutely. It doesn't matter how talented you are as a wide receiver. You've got to have a quarterback that can get you the ball. You've got to have an O-line that can block. You've got to have a coordinator. So shout out to Brian Fleury as well. That's going to call plays and put you in a good position. Yeah, shout out to the situational report. Hell yeah. I like that you put that suit on. Gave that look. I'm about to do some shit here. Big day with Big Shrink. Breaking down all the big plays is next here on ESPN. As we continue digitally, we can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. You're the greatest people on earth. Be a friend to our friends. Some nights might change our life. Goodbye. Good send to Big Day with Big Shrink. Yeah, big time. I felt really, I feel like I gave him a good. With J-Mac swinging a hot bat going in there. Have you seen Big Day with Big Shrink? I've not seen it yet. I saw a rap sheet yesterday with a sweet leather jacket on. I saw a highlight. They went into something and it sounded like shit. Hmm? At the end of the show. No, their show ended, sorry. Not Big Day with Big Shrink. Yeah, it was after the show. And there's some sort of technical difficulties to whatever he threw. Oh, got it, yes. And that happened last week as well. So they're figuring out, I believe, the transmissions that are probably taking place. Between different studios and what stays live. This is once again on the Hard Out Conversation. Yes. That we had a couple weeks ago when we were blamed for the Hard Out mishap that took place from the city of New York. It'll all get worked out. No doubt. All right, let's get to a break. We got a lot to figure out. Who are the top five offensive lines coming out of week two? Good question. How about who has some good D? I'd like to know that too. No bad D, right? What just happened? No bad. You saw some bad D right there. Good offense. Good O. Better O. Oh, you're talking about right here with the Arizona Cardinals? Yeah. We're not showcasing bad D. We're swinging good D around here. That's right. Good D only. Okay? Ain't that right, AQ? That's right. Sling it. Didn't sound natural coming out here. Huge. Well, slinging it. AJ, I don't like the well there. You know, this is kind of like the. Did you hear what happened earlier when I introduced AQ Shipley, who he is and what Ty did and how Ty did it? No. No, no, no. Well, a little bit. I did. I did see that. I mean, I don't think Ty meant anything by it. No, Will. Thanks, AJ. All right. Universe ball for injuries. Here we go. Okay. And world peace or what? We've taken that until the offseason. Kind of one of the same. Yeah, I think so too. I'm with you, AJ. It is September 23rd, 2026. Football is started. I am for no cause, foreign or domestic, other than. Maybe that's right. So you hate world peace? Wow. And although I hope world peace happens, I personally am for no cause, foreign or domestic, other than football. Okay. I am hoping for world peace. I am hoping for a cure for all. All diseases. Mm-hmm. Ooh. I am hoping for no more criminality. I am hoping for pure intentions of all humans across the globe. I am hoping for the in-theory world that some people live in to become our reality. But on that note, I personally will be throwing universe balls for no other cause, foreign or domestic, other than football. Okay. All right. Clarified all that? Yep. Include soccer? No. Okay. No. What? Because football. AQ's daughter, maybe. If AQ's daughter's playing, I'm pulling for that team. What's the name of the team? SC Del Sol. Okay, that's my team. SC Del Sol. And I want to let you know, they got a Shipley problem on that team. I mean, she's scoring from all over the place, and she's running through people. Like, she has her dad in her. Love that. And she has the build, speed, and. Yeah. 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Oh, I don't think we need to call it huge. That big, fat good D. Yeah. Or that. It's just good. defensive football. Hard. Good. Hard nose. hard-nosed football yeah a stiff good D stimulated good day stingy there we go I like that stingy average D I think I below average maybe I don't know thick that's where it's way to go D yeah physical there's no ponding hard good good D yeah that's what we got coming out everything DB Darius J butlers long hard D good D good D scratch the record good D fit no good D yeah not just good defense because there's a difference between defense and D you know and when you're when you got that good D everybody knows it today we're gonna spotlight it but first ladies and gentlemen I don't know he's breaking down film we'll dive into the good D here in a matter of moments but before that let's go to above average to slightly above average big men ladies and gentlemen a Super Bowl champion a 12-year NFL vet a man who goes in the trenches every single week for us looking for somebody that beat who beat that good D this weekend in the big-boy division because it is time ladies and gentlemen for our top five performing offensive lines coming out a week two of the NFL season let's go number five offensive line this week the New England Patriots Wow how come make you well the New England Patriots they did exactly what they used to do when they were really good at running the football they went a lot of two back get a fullback involved tight end but grimy style of play and I love this let's watch Jared Wilson and Morgan Moses one of my favorite plays we're gonna pull the backside tackle Elijah Vera Tucker on the front side is gonna get a nice block down on the two I just drew that up right tackles gonna come around he's gonna get a great fit on the linebacker and then Travion Henderson's gonna hit this thing downhill bounce off him now let's watch this spotlight look at watch him take out two guys right here look at this spotlight right here take out safety and say wow see you later all the way to the end zone heck of a run gonna have to have the run game right with what's happening through the air con man yeah for sure and that was kind of the conversation once we saw this list was really the Patriots offensive they play that well and they did a lot of the problems that they had on offense are stemming from Drake may Pat and the ball holding on to it but the old line is showed up and will Campbell much much improved really good a hand drawing here of what's happening in front of our face Travion Henderson being backs a huge deal right this was his first game back as starter yes for uh from the season he didn't start he bounced in and out Montrose Stevenson actually fumbled so then it was basically Trevor on Henderson's day from there they're forward uh but yeah this was the first game of the year Bob Douglas getting a little bit uh there at the end like the full team buy-in okay that's number five offensive line to New England Patriots number four the Minnesota Vikings congratulations yeah this was kind of a throwback you get Aaron Jones Sr going for over 100 yards rushing this week but I love this play let's watch this we're gonna get the jet motion watch the ball handling by Carson Wentz and also watch the DB run with the jet motion gets rid of the support player you pull around Christian derisaw who is back to playing the football he's supposed to be playing kick out on the corner let's take a look at this big gaping hole and looking arrow could have used one from the thing but I like that you decided to draw it off Center great hole there for you and a great run by Aaron Jones Sr who's a weapon yeah it was incredible and listen these guys ran the heck out of the football I thought both the interior guards played fantastic new Center Blake Brandel doing a great job in the middle and then obviously Christian deris on Brian O'Neill bookend tackles they got a really good offensive line they played great this whole game derisaw being back is huge for this team going forward in the middle of a monsoon an arrow is tough to draw freehand it is uh you know that's why they have one on there I think you did a great job with that a major point across that's offensive line football we like to draw it almost looked like a good D but instead it was just kind of a little bit off center but that's how it goes uh who's the next offensive line that needs to be celebrated coming out of week two oh the Los Angeles Rams yeah and this is an awesome play let's take a look at this we get two tight end wing to the strong side on the right side right here now let's watch this they're gonna run a full outside zone play to the right look at this climb now watch this leave him we get a two for one here leave him and climb again for the next guy that's how you capture the edge unbelievable job by Davis Allen the outside tight end and Colby Parkinson the inside tight end capturing and ganging on the outside that's called a gang combo between two tight ends get up to the second level but again look he should stop on the first linebacker nope stops there highlight it again press off him climb again to the next guy boom capture the edge and this is awesome this two-headed monster between uh Blake Corum and obviously Kyron I mean they've been fantastic at running back gang gang created a wall outside obviously McVay has the capability to drop great run plays they have the weapons to do as such and then also oh yeah Devonte Adams can go for 195 in two touchdowns if you need him that's a wall against a very physical Giants football team right is what we thought yeah and capturing the edge is the hardest thing D-Bus you know that oh yeah and every every edge guy in America is taught hey don't give up the edge force it back to your buddies inside no age no chance that's it and right there they do a fantastic job not only on the first level not only on the second level but leaving the second and getting to the third it was fantastic welcome back Rams who are 1-0 that's right 1-0 on the season after two games uh number two offensive line I like this Seattle Seahawks the reigning Super Bowl champs are getting it done up front you're saying absolutely JSN was fantastic but again it starts with the run game they got the run game going in a big way their fullback has been fantastic all year Brady Russell but let's watch this it might be the biggest hole I've ever seen I mean it's we get an unbelievable hole we get a double team between Charles Cross left tackle and Grace Abel who's one of my favorite linemen in the league then the fullback climbs Brady Russell watch this we get the highlight get clean just clean up on the safety and then you get a hole that's 20 yards wide you get the cut back behind everything and I mean my my little four-year-old son could have gotten 25 yards on this room yeah and you like the fullback fullbacks have been huge this year uh seemingly fullbacks are fantastic because you gain plus one in the run game not everybody can use it not everybody believes in it because then you limit what you can do in the past game but man if you got a fullback and you got a strong running game utilize that fullback and get you plus one in the run game okay so this is a duo no this is just an outside Zone we call it split Zone see right so you get the backside tight end block and man everybody else washes everything so you're gonna wash everything right to the front side you get a man block on the back side and then the fullback starts right cuts it back that's split Zone and then the tailback follows him congrats to the Seahawks obviously they lose Kenneth Walker who is the guy for the Chiefs now he was a Super Bowl MVP how will the run game go this particular season well remember Seahawks running back coach is a big time uh that he wants them to hit it and get it easy to do whenever you have that big of a a hole out there okay congrats to Seahawks number two offensive line and the number one in the trenches with AQ Shipley is the Buffalo Bills congratulations Buffalo hey hey hey hey hey let's go Buffalo they got the big boys up there in Buffalo huh we know they got Dion Dawkins you're saying the line though across the board is the one they were fantastic up front across the board but check this out look at this formation right we're going to get two plays here we got two plays from the Buffalo Bills and by the way if you can't figure this out it's the same exact place see three guys right there we got two tight ends and a wide receiver they're gonna line up right there and then see those three they have to sort it out to get those three on defense let's watch this and then everybody else to run and do it you get a double team and a double team look at Dion Dawkins do a great job he's highlighted right there he's gonna seal it and then the other three just sort it out boom there's the big cut out the back side then the very next play they're gonna come out exactly the same look exactly so when you're on the same play same formation two times in a row demoralizing to the defense they know exactly what's coming can you stop it three for three gotta sort it out again there it is different now hit it out the front side Gash on Gash on Gash they ran it again two more times before they scored the touchdown they just kept lining up running the same play what does that tell you about Joe Brady's Joe Brady normally do that type of stuff do offenses do this type of thing oh yeah start seeing success oh yeah as a defense you got to stop the bleeding they're going to keep running it until you stop it they did this last year against the Pittsburgh Steelers remember it was duo right they ran like 25 times or something like that that's right so that's Joe Brady's MO oh yeah we'll see let's see if they can stop it now the way I play uh table tennis and ping pong if I find out somebody doesn't have a backhand I'm at 11 straight times I'm going right to the back end this isn't fun I'm not able to don't care okay this is what we're trying to do Joe Brady does the same thing is that normal is that normal for an offense coordinator to do because I feel like there's always like hey we're doing this good let's not waste it let's bring that back whatever we need it well you see success you go back to it right you remember playing special teams hey let's find the fish right I'm not saying there's a fish here but they saw success they go back to it they run the play action off of it because they think you're going to run it again same formation same look and then they hit the play action off of it but they got unbelievable blocking tight ends this 85 Jackson Dawes right here he's the closest inline tight end he's an he's like a another tackle playing tight end and he's fantastic in the run game so they utilize that off look at Sky Moore there put his face in the fan and then the free hitter you leave is a corner that's right so like if you can you trust James Cook or whoever you're starting running back is to be able to win that one-on-one matchup that's you know the guys get paid to play and they're going to be able to play the big bucks and make one miss. So you leaving the corner free. And James Cook, I mean, he always does an unbelievable job of having vision. And then his cut, it's either a cut back, it's a cut up, but he's just so smooth with it, just unbelievable running, but a great, great scheme. It's almost like they're letting James Cook. You can only do that if you've got a good offensive line. Congrats to these five making the top five of the Lions in the trenches. Thank you, Sean. I'll tell you what, Rams surprise. Yeah. If you were to go back after week one and say, hey, the Rams offensive line is going to be a top 5-0 line after week two, I think we'd all be pretty surprised by that. Minnesota Vikings have that torrential downpour game against the Bears. Had to do well, especially with Carson Wentz. Shout out to the Patriots getting it done however you got to do. Teams win, obviously, even if you're not playing your absolute best. Seahawks Super Bowl champs. And the Buffalo Beals, the only question is, can their defense get a stop? Because it feels like offense is going to be able to score. And do they need to? Yeah, exactly. Two different ways of winning, too, for Buffalo. In week one, they had a great pass protection plan. It was a heavy pass. They didn't really. They didn't really run the ball very much. This week, it was, hey, we can line up and we can run it, too. AJ, what are your thoughts on top five offensive lines? I mean, I would assume, AQ, that a lot of these lines have a lot of continuity. They have guys that have played together for a little bit. Yeah, Buffalo has a lot of the same guys. The interesting point, they lost David Edwards to the Saints at left guard. They put in Alec Anderson, who was their 6-0 line. Remember, they did a bunch of 6-0 linemen stuff last year. They import him into left guard. He has been playing fantastic. And then Minnesota Vikings invested heavily in their offensive line. They bring Will Fries over from the Colts a couple years ago. And then, obviously, their bookend tackles are paid. So, they've paid a lot of their guys and a first-round pick at left guard. Yeah, we used to have French and Fries right there on the offensive line. And we were cooked at the time. I'm happy to hear Fries is doing great for Minnesota. Derisaw being back is great news because he was a mainstay of this particular segment for a while. Seattle Seahawks, we just assume they're going to be great across the board. So, they're one of, I think, maybe one or two teams that have all five returning guys from a year ago. Now, having said that, Anthony Bradford. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was out at right guard this week. And then they lost Haynes, their backup guard. So, they were down to their third guard, Iowa Hawkeye, Bo Stevens. He played pretty well, didn't he? And he played pretty well. So, I mean, they just got guys. They got guys everywhere. They got guys going down to their eighth and ninth guy playing well in that system. AJ, good question about the continuity, though. That's a big deal for the offensive line. You need continuity. You need continuity. Well, what if one of these guys is ass and we don't know it? You know, what if these guys are certainly pulling him is a big deal because he has chemistry, even if he's bad, with the guys that are next to him. So, any adjustment. Any adjustment to an offensive line can change it forever or make it better forever, right? Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And the Patriots, we'll find out, right? They lost Onwenu, who's the monster of a man, right? A big 350-pounder, breaks his ankle. He's out. That's nasty. It's gross. They get Greg Van Roten, who's a true pro. He's been in the league for almost a decade now. I played with Greg 20 years ago. Greg's been playing forever. Forever. And he went in and stepped in and played really well. So, that's the key. The key is the guys up front are awesome, but are 6, 7, 8, and 9 good. How many do you need? Nine of them? No, you need nine. I mean, to feel your offensive line. Maybe you dress for a game, AQ. You dress eight nowadays. It used to be seven, but they've allowed eight because you get that extra person now. So, now you can dress a true backup center, a true backup guard swing, and a true backup tackle. Yeah, because you used to just have one swing and then one center, right? Normally backup. It was one swing guard tackle, one swing center guard, right? Yeah. And then you were also a fullback and kickoff return wedge, man. But more you can do. Yeah, absolutely more you can do. What about teams who just, like, jumble it every single week? Like, oh, let's put this guy right tackle this week. He wasn't good. He wasn't great. Let's move him to right guard next week, okay? He wasn't great there. Let's move him to center this week, okay? Oh, kind of like popcorn popping around? Yeah, pretty much. I think he's talking a little bit about the Green Bay Packers and the way that they rotate guys. They do it every fucking week. And the way they move guys around. They've got a guy playing a new position every single week, dating back to last year. And maybe that's why they've got six offensive linemen injured right now. Yeah, that's a big issue. I'm not a big fan of rotating guys. I'm certainly not a big fan of rotating guys in game. I'm certainly even more not a big fan of rotating sides and guys. Jordan. Morgan has played almost every position on the offensive line. And now he's at left tackle. And all of a sudden, he plays good football. And it's like, well, why is he playing good football? Because he's playing a position that he knows how to play. How's Kalani doing? Benson. Khalil? Sorry. Khalil nailed it. Khalil, sorry. Yeah, Khalil. 100% on me, Khalil. Khalil's doing a great job. I mean, again, they're going to go back to Josh Simmons when Josh Simmons is back. But Khalil Benson has done a very admirable job. He's been better than expected at left tackle. 2-0. Yeah. A drafted rookie at left tackle. Why? I mean, I understand. He's the first. He's the first-round pick. But they've looked pretty damn. Like, why? First-round pick? You nailed it. I think their right tackle got banged up as well towards the end of the game, too. So, he might just start where he was kind of going into camp at right tackle and right guard, which is what his position was. Matt Schneidman's reporting of the Packers. There was a time, LaFleur said, there was a time where we were down to 4-0 linemen. We're talking about putting Tucker Craft in a tackle. My monk was getting evaluated. I've never been a part of anything like that, LaFleur said. Yeah. Love seeing that. You know, the guy you just gave it back. He's got $100 million, so he's arguably the best pass catcher. Might have to play, you know, right tackle this week. So, that's great. Tucker, I know Tucker doesn't love hearing that either. No, certainly not. And once again, this is nothing. I don't think Jordan Love likes hearing it either. Yeah, all that sounds not good. I don't think anybody's. LaFleur said, I don't like saying this either. I'm just telling you where we were. Hey, we needed you to make that fucking ball, man. We almost had Braxton Burrios, the fucking quarterback. We got Tucker Craft almost a fucking left tackle. What are we doing, man? I'm sorry, man. We three. It's not about me, bro. It's the universe. You had the ball. Cardinals just lost their best corner for the year. It's off. What's going on? Why is everybody getting hurt? I have a lot of injuries. These guys don't hit during training camp. Come on, coach. Are you guys eating too healthy? Maybe they're not calloused enough. Get off the e-bikes. Getting too much sleep? Drink more beer. What? Whiskey. What? Wings. What? Pizza. Wide. Make sure you're burning sage out there, too, to keep the good spirits around. Wide. Let's live a little. Maybe get calloused up, you know? Yeah. Maybe our bodies are hardened because we put shit in it, you know? And maybe just having a 700-horsepower fickle engine that needs pure oil in it every single day, every single time it operates, isn't sustainable for a 17-game season. Maybe that isn't what it is. All these hockey players are talking about being tough. From my understanding, vodka's water for these guys. Ovechkin was drinking water bottles full of Coke. Still is. He's been doing it for 20 years. Hot Cheetos and Subway. That's his pregame meal. I've seen guys that have won Super Bowls and are in the Hall of Fame. Ice cream night before a game. Exactly. I mean, just lactose intolerant. Who? Give me the inflammation. I'm lactose intolerant. Sweet. Cookies and cream here. Unbelievable. Yeah. You see the Hershey syrup they got here, too. Oh, yeah. Let's go ahead and get that. We got big game more. Yeah, bingo. Big game more. Who's got. You got beer over there? Yeah. What? Take it all. I'll take one of those, too. Yep. Thank you so much. I'll take one of those. Popeye's on a plane trip. Oh. The best. Different time. Maybe they need to go back in time. Sometimes they go forward. Which is what these lads might need. You got to go back. But there's a dietician right now telling us how wrong we are. It's like, okay. Thanks. There is a balance. You got to balance everything. Shut up. I don't need my O-Lyman. We don't need our O-Lyman eating too healthy. I know that much. Agreed. But also, we don't even become fatsos, you know? Well, yeah. Because there's a fine line between. That's a big body first. Fat ass! You know, there is. There's a fine line between the two, especially with you big bodies, I think. Yeah, that's right. But they make drinks for those, too. To get it all out. That's right. Oh, yeah. Every Wednesday night. Weigh-ins Thursday. Probably not the best for you physically. No way. I mean. It's fine. It worked out okay. So, if you had to go back in time, you would do the same thing? You would do it the same way that you did it with. And for those that don't know, when you get a colonoscopy, they, like, tell you to drink that stuff the night before so it can kind of clear you out. And people describe it as, like, the most active and worst night, you know, every single time. AQ did that every week of his entire football career the night before a weigh-in because his fat ass couldn't stop eating. Right? That's a fair statement. I didn't want to make weight. Didn't want to get fined. So, you just pounded Pedialyte, like, the next morning then? I mean. Because that dehydrated you like a son of a bitch. There was times he would see me post-weigh-in where, I mean, it looked like I went through hell and back. Like a UFC guy. Yeah. I'd be in the sauna after these things. I'd be in the toilet all morning. Would they turn you guys' sauna off or steam room the morning of weigh-in? No, no. I was all in. All right. Let's step on the scale. 3.10.2. Okay. Let's get another.309.8. Perfect. I'd come out and collapse. Yeah. It was disgusting, really, what he was doing. And never had to pay for an extra pound, though. There you go. Never had to pay. And stayed relatively healthy most of my career until the end. Yeah. Hell yeah. Which I think is just kind of status quo for most football positions, especially at the offensive line. I would say so. Yeah. So, maybe you should be given a course on how to kind of do it all to this next generation. I don't know if they'll listen. That reminded me of Hasselbeck when I walked into Houston. Oh, my God. Where he had a hoodie on like Kenny. Okay? He had a hoodie on. Somebody. I didn't know it was Hasselbeck. I didn't know at the time. Walk in, take first bus, walk into locker room. There's a carcass on the ground as if it was Halloween and they stuffed it with leaves, you know, like out front. Kenny hoodie tied in like this, basically just mouth and nose open. I'm talking Kenny from South Park. Hoodie, sweats, dead body position on ground in locker room. Walk in, do a kick. Who the hell is this? I don't know. Team's here. Open it up. Hasselbeck. That's our starting quarterback. Are you all right, buddy? I was in the hospital the last three days. you're a practicer Dude, they let me out, then I go back to the hospital. It's like, what? When were you in the hospital last? Last night, I was in the hospital, yeah. They flew me in here this morning. It's like, what the fuck, E. coli he had or something? Oh, yeah. Man. He had E. coli, and I think it was dumping. I think it was dumping and puking. It was like a mass exodus. He went out, threw for 200-plus, a couple of times, we win the game. Peace. Never been more impressed with him. Tough. Mental toughness. Yeah. Yes. Right there. In hospital, IVs, you know, the night before, coming to practice, just, hey, how we doing? Then I had no idea he was battling E. coli. We get a win. I did think, all right, I'm going to have to warm up pretty good today. You know, I'm starting quarterbacks dead. Probably going to be punting a little bit. That's like when I walked in and Peyton had a bunch of wires. Training camp, I had no idea what had happened to his neck. Get called down there. Had a great offseason. I mean, just a great offseason. Peyton Manning's punter. Life's pretty good. You know, we've won a lot of games. Hey, why don't you come on down, bud? Come down. He's got a fucking bunch of things out of him. He's got a bunch of things out of his neck. I'm happy traveling to Europe here pretty soon. I think I might have to be getting something else. I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to be playing this year. Oh, fuck. I was not preparing to be that active this season. I will certainly start getting in shape now. I didn't know that was the case. And then we signed Cary Collins out of a tree stand. And he got concussed first week, I think. Blasted. J.J. Watt did the Aaron Rodgers hit on him. Yeah. Yeah, picked him up, dumped him. That ended his career, didn't it? Yeah, definitely ended his time with the Colts. Yeah. He had a long time. My first pick off Cary Collins. Legend. Been around a long time. He was in a tree stand, allegedly, when Bill Pulling called him and said, we need you. Yeah, we're not going to have a quarterback. We need a starter of some sort. Shit, I don't know if I can do that. I haven't touched a ball. We need you. How much money? Gave him a good amount of money. Comes in, gets killed. Rest in peace, Cary. Have a good one. He's the best. Cary Collins is a good teammate. But we sucked that year from that moment forward. That's like the Giants fans. You lose your starting quarterback and everything like this early. It's like, yeah, fuck. Your entire offense. Offseason of hopes and optimism and storyline seemingly out the door. We would go on to almost lose every game that season that Peyton Manning was in there. So all of our actual, we might be fucked here. We're real. I'm not saying that with the Giants, though, Bruce. I think you guys got a lot of good football left. You got a lot of big bodies over there. Maybe the quarterback position isn't that important, Bruce Brown. Yeah, I mean, it's time for John Harbaugh to earn the $100 million and keep this thing on the tracks. Yes. Yesterday, my dollar was down. This morning, maybe my dollar was still down a little bit. But what an opportunity for Jameis Winston to step in here. We got the Titans, the Cardinals, the Commanders. Let's stack some dubs. Let's eat some dubs with Jameis Winston. Maybe we can still, you know, make the playoffs or something like that. Especially with how the Commanders are playing. Yeah. They don't have their quarterback either. You guys, that was the quote-unquote suck for luck year. But a lot of those games are one-score games. Nine of them. Yeah. So that goes, you know, it's hard. A tough-ass league is a hard-ass league. Like, regardless of what records, it's point spread. You got to go out there and win the fucking games. And usually it comes down to a two-minute drive on offensive defense. I think we were like three-quarters away from breaking the all-time punt record. The most amount of punts. I think we were like three, three, three-quarters away. I had ten punts in the first half of the game. I think. I think it was like nine or ten in the first half. Man. Yeah. That was pretty awesome. One got blocked in the back of the end zone. Stats didn't matter, though, because I got eight other punts to make up for this. That was something I did learn. It's like, man, it's pretty nice to have, like, fucking six. Seven, eight punts a game. Just kind of shanked three of them. Hit five good ones. This guy averaged 50 yards a punt. It's like, well, I had two 20-yarders in there. Thank God we had seven more attempts at it all. Clyde Christensen was calling plays that year. Oh, yeah. Just talked to Clyde. Love Clyde. The best. He was maybe more in the dumps than anybody. Because what he thought was about to happen that season and then what ended up happening. Curtis Painter plays good football for us. Yeah. Dan Orlovsky came in, I believe, at the end. Start one, two games. Beast. Almost one. He won us out of getting Andrew Luck. Would have ended up with RG3 if we would have had a number two. That's certainly a change in trajectory of everything. RG3 had a great start to his career, though. You know, he actually won Offensive Rookie of the Year over Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck took us to the AFC Championship that year. Do you remember that? No, we went. No, we lost to Baltimore in the first. Yeah, Baltimore. Oh, yeah, because B.A. B.A. got sick. B.A. got sick. It was Ray Lewis' last home game. We were ranked 32nd that year. Oh, yeah. I remember the shirt. Yeah, build the monster. We're 32nd. Andrew Luck takes us. He takes us to the playoffs somehow on his back. Well, we had nine, to your point, the year before, I think you said what? You had nine one-score games and lost them all. That year, we had nine fourth-quarter and overtime comebacks. I don't know if you remember that. Not good enough to win Offensive Rookie of the Year because RG3 was absolutely cooking over there in D.C. But it's like. Baltimore won the Super Bowl that year, too, didn't they? Yeah. They went to New England. B.A. was our Offense Coordinator. Wakes up sick, right, I think, is what happened. They take him to the hospital and misses the game. Misses the whole game. That was the last Ray Lewis. Was that the last home game? Yeah. Yeah. Last home game for him. Yeah. They did 47 tributes to him during that game. No way you're winning that game. Every game. Yeah. I mean, if we had B.A., I think there's a chance. But, yes, football God's probably having us lose that one because Ray's, you know. Yeah. At the end, actually, he was the running back for the kneel down. At the end, he was on unstrap. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. Unstrap, by the way. He's in the middle of the field. We're just sitting over there. Yeah. We're just watching this thing. Man, that really came quickly how we got out of here. Yeah. The next year we go to AFC Championship? Nope. Two years later. 14. The next year we went. That was when we beat the Chiefs on that crazy comeback. That huge comeback. 35. And then the following year we went up to Flakegate and lost in the AFC Championship. To Flakegate. Those are good old days. If this goes in, we're getting back to it. Oh, yeah. Okay. No more injuries, actually. This one feels good. Okay. We need it, don't we? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope it doesn't. That's it. I don't want to put that bad joke to you. What were you going to say? If you miss it, are we just compounding the injuries? Yeah, just bigger one. I don't think it works like that. No, no, no. We'll find out come Monday. Because we've got to remember, we're not doing anything. The universe is telling us. That's kind of. Jeez. Caleb, Jackson, Jaden, Kyler, Sam, Tua, Tongvaloa. Tua doesn't count on that. Is he really on crutches with his hammy? Caleb? Yeah. Who? I don't know. Bone did that. He's a Chicago guy. Bone did that. He's a Chicago guy. Yeah, but he's a diehard Buffalo Bills fan. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Two years ago, I remember. All right. If this goes in, no more. All right. And there's not a compounding thing that can happen, because the universe is predicting what's going to happen. Okay. It's a magic eight ball, if you will. Ask again later. Mm-hmm. All right. Yeah. Oh. Good line. Good line. The only way to bounce back from that is some good D. Right? Yeah. That's right. That's right. I'm down in the dumps. Dauber, Don. Dauber that. Dauber. Dauber. Don. One more, I think. All right. Dauber. Oh, good ball handling there, though. His knee's exploding. No. With every miss. No, no, no, no. Could be a bit of a compound here. No, it's not. Don't put that on me. Compound fracture. Who's going to be playing out of position this week? Oh, boy. No, no, no. Oh, no. Not another. Jeez, Louise. And the cart's out on the field. No, stop. Is that an air ball? No, no, no, no, no. Oh. Oh, play thing. Sucked him up. Oh. And now the ambulance, folks. Goodness. It's not looking good. I mean. Is that a CPR machine? Fucking airlifted. They're using the defibrillator. Yeah, they got the backboard out. They just took the face mask off. Oh, God. Guys, stay the night in the hospital or whatever city they're in. No. I was going to strip sack that right there just so we couldn't watch it anymore. Change the vibes. Yeah. Let's go pocket. Go pocket awareness. Nice. They're actually going to stop the game here, folks. Oh, boy. Find something else to watch. It's bloody and it's bad. I'm not doing that ever again. That's way too much pressure. You got to make one or something. We can't go out like that. I think we're going out like that. I think we can. All right. Wee-wee-wee. Oh, there we go. Something to eat. We're meant to cancel games because there's so many guys that are hurt. I mean, Tucker Craft. I know. All right. Left tackle, man. Yeah. Would have been fucked up to turn off injuries after we're already on to the World Cup correspondent anyway. What do you mean? I'm just saying it would be kind of messed up. I don't think I fully comprehend what you're saying. You can't just have injuries to some teams. You can't just say no injuries the rest of the way. Oh, so you're saying, wow, it must be nice to have no more injuries after we lose our quarterback in New York for the entire season. I was sitting here rooting for every single ball to not go in the hoop. See? You're a terrible guy. That is bad, brother. Maybe all those misses are for one guy. Misery loves company there, and I hope not, okay? I hope that's not one guy on my team. I hope it's on somebody else's team. I hope for none of them. Hope for no more. But it seems like that's not likely. Don't do it. I mean, this is fucking wild. Fuck, the worst one. Let's get to. That ball's much smaller than that one. Yeah, it's a tiny ball. Thank you. You're only going to get one shot, one opportunity later. Might as well throw the brain. That's what's going to happen this week. Brains are going to explode. No, brains are not going to explode. Golden brain. International game. Yeah, you're right. Do you know what this is? Cricket. No. It's a hurl. Of course. Don't do that. Everyone's going to get Zika down there. No. Brazil, he's on to something. That's not real. Okay, we're good for them. For Ravens, Cowboys. That went in. Did it? No, it didn't. I thought it did. Yeah, it did. It went in. It looked like it went in for me. Yeah, it went in. I thought it went in. It went in. Yeah, if the rim was four feet left, it went in. The Mar and Dak are good. No, no, no. Woo! I think you might have had a bad view on it. We might have to run that back at some point. I think it did. A hurling ball is called a slitter. It's slightly larger than a tennis ball with a diameter of 69 to 72 millimeters for adults. It weighs roughly 115 grams, what I just threw right there. Threw that hoop right over there. 115 guys are going to get hurt now? No, he made it. No, I made it. Oh, yeah. Woo. Now, if we lie about it going in, what happens? Yeah, it's not good either. Did you make it? I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't see. I couldn't see. It was such a small ball. I saw it clear as day. It didn't go in. Fuck! Yeah, but look at your glasses. You've got fucking binoculars on your face. We're going to have a blackout here. You think there's not going to be enough players to play the game like Ty was saying earlier because all these balls? I mean, we've got a cemetery out here. Yeah, I've got like 25 ACOs. No, that is not how this is going to go. A couple of necks. Remember, this show means nothing. This show means nothing. Always has meant nothing and always will mean nothing. That means nothing right there. What we have learned, though, is that Bruce, pretty disgusting reaction, you know, to this entire thing. But, hey, that is the way I guess I'd be looking at it, too, if I feel like my entire season got thrown away weak, too. I do hope nobody gets hurt, but, you know. Thank you, Bruce. Yeah. Me, too. Stop with the madness. This is baseball. Yeah, this is for the MLB playoffs. Judge E! Oh! Nice! That's big. Judge is back. Who cares about baseball? That throw means nothing. It's football season, boys. No, that was for all athletes. No. Okay. Yeah. That was a good throw. You're a guy without a team in the MLB playoffs. Yeah, well, he's not the only one. That's right. Yeah. Let's get some good D. That's good news. Yeah, that is good news. I don't know exactly what that is good news for, but it's something. We'll see. That was my first time throwing that ball. Yeah, that's good news. So, all these other balls just warm up for that particular ball. Universe ball, we're in a good spot. AJ, do you agree that because that baseball went in there, maybe the universe is telling us something good? Yeah. You know, it's like the whole thing. Like, it's not how many times you fall off the horse, it's how many times you get back up, right? That's right. That is what it's all about. And the universe normally, if it's going to indicate something to us, they would want us to go through seven different shots at it, multiple different sports, and land on the third one for that to be the actual message. The universe operates in such an interesting way. Funny way. It is. It's a little fickle to figure out up there, isn't it, the universe? Shout out to the universe for doing that, though. No more injuries. Hell yeah. Woo! Woo! Yep. I do fear that nobody's going to see the baseball one, just all the football ones, and think that the universe was somehow saying something bad. It was saying something good right there. Yeah. AJ, clearly saying something good right there. Clearly, yeah. The universe is expecting great things from here on out. Yes. On that note, let's get some great D, shall we? Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go Everything DB with Darius J. Butler and showcase some good D from around the NFL. Let's get this thing started. Yeah, we'll start with the Browns, and their dauber has been down for a long, long time. But look, Todd Monken told you after the game, Browns going to Brown. Nope. Fuck that. They came out here and played ball, and it started with defense. Big time interception here. We got Miles. Harden at the bottom of the screen. But all of these good Ds across the board, it's about kind of line and showing disguise. We talked about green dots. Talk about communication. It's not only about the coverage, but you're also communicating disguise as well. You can tell that these guys are on the same page right now. So in post-safety, this safety's down. Once this motion comes down, they start their moving. Boom. Now Baker Mayfield's coming out of that play action. When he went back, it was single high. Now he's coming back. His middle close is too open, and now he's going to try to beat this underneath defender. Miles Harden, he's getting great depth, great width, keeping his eyes back at the quarterback. When underneath defenders, I always talk about playing these routes high to low. He did a great job here. Baker still tries to layer it over him. He does not. Great big-time pick. But I think this started with the pre-snap disguise. Okay, so pre-snap disguise, fooling a veteran quarterback here. Cleveland Browns defense still for real? They have the players. They have the players, and it starts with continuity. It's a lot of similarities, especially with secondaries, but with defenses. With the O-line, you talk about continuity and playing with guys, playing next to guys, knowing how we're going to communicate, how we're going to disguise certain coverages. So the more these guys play together, I think they'll continue to get better. Hey, that's good D coming out of Cleveland. That's good D. Yeah, pretty good D. Baker Mayfield had this game circled on his calendar for this long, and that's the throw he comes out with? What the fuck was that? Well, he was fooled. He didn't think it was that. I didn't see that, Muffin. Jeez Louise, baby. Wake up. No, some people are calling him Meatballs. Yeah. Whatever you call him. The Deli Man? He was fooled, though, I think is what D-Butt's saying, right? Part of it was fooled, but he did see the defender. And a lot of times you'll hear quarterbacks talk about it, especially with zone coverages, the underneath defenders. They see color. So, right, you see the color. You see the brown jerseys. You think, hey, I can get this over top of him. But Harden did a great job of continuing to sink, continuing to get depth, getting back at the ball. And it's hard. It is so hard. AJ, I'm sure you've been in this position a lot, to be going backwards as a defender and jump. So many times you look and you're like, hey, you want to get into that stance and then jump straight up. When you're going back and jumping, it's very, very tough. But he did a good job high-pointing it and finishing the catch. AJ? Oh, you need my response. I mean, D-Bud, this guy makes it look very easy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, though. These guys, all these guys make stuff that's super athletic look easy. Like, D-Bud is completely right here. But look at it. If you see pre-snap, they're all, what do you have, like six dudes all on the same level, D-Bud? And then, bam, nine backs out, safety's out of here, and here we go. We got a new look as Bakes turned his back to the defense. Great job. Great job. Unbelievable job. And shout-out to the Cleveland Browns. The Browns' defense winning the game down in Tampa, especially with the red zone after two and a half hours, if Baker goes and scores that. And your point about running backwards and jumping, it feels like throwing a punch in your dream. Yes. Like, you just have no power. Great comparison. Yeah, that is, I've tried to do that before. That is what it feels like running backwards. So, the guy able to do that, freak athlete. I mean, the guy who had 195 yards, Devontae had a situation like that where he couldn't actually jump. It was on Javon Holland's interception. Like, it was a deep ball, and he was backpedaling, and he literally couldn't jump whatsoever. And that's why it ended up being an interception. Yeah, objects in motion stay in motion, which is why going backwards and then going up is such a weird. That was a dynamic explosion. Athlete, that was a phenomenal play. Until you pointed it out, I didn't even think about that. And a lot of times coaches will tell you, especially underneath defenders, like, get to your spot. Like, get to your depth. And then that way you can set up. You can have like a, you know, a Cobra-like demeanor where you have an athletic position. You can either come forward. You can go backward. You can jump up. You can go laterally. So when you're continuing to sink back, and then you kind of time that jump off off the one foot, and then you high point and make the catch. It's a great job by Miles Harden. Do you remember when Hartung used to do this to you in high school basketball, A.Q. Shipley? No, I don't remember that ever. That never happened. Could you jump while moving backwards? No way. That's a good question. Actually. I might try it after the show. Okay, let's get it going. Careful. That would be a good time to test your body physically, I think. Yeah, a great time. Great time in Achilles. A great time in Achilles. Whoa. No, no, no. Not him. Not him. I'm just like, even me just watching that makes me think like, if I tried to do that, I would strain something in my body. And I don't know if I would go on the ground and ask for a card and cry about it, but I'd know that I'd strain something in my life. You have no idea. You've never been there. Exactly. You might. Maybe you do. I might. And I might pat or like Jackson Dart, I just fucking walk my ass off the field. How about remember when Tyrese was telling a story? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, Kobe. He walked off. Let me walk. Let me walk. Try to stand up. Help me. Help me. Can't fucking walk. You know, injury is obviously situational, but if Caleb Williams is back on Monday night, which was that? Ben Johnson won't let that happen. I don't think that. Just strictly for the opposite of it all. But if he is even in consideration to be back that quick, we as NFL fans got very lucky that Caleb Williams is still going to be playing football this year, especially a lot of it. Let's go to some more good, D. Looks like this one's mile high slinging. Yeah. Actually been where Caleb Williams was. I pulled a hammy right on this field. Should have been a pick six. Pulled that hammy, went right down. I did get up and jog off. But getting back to the Denver Broncos. Single high. Once again, a good job lying to the quarterback pre-snap. This is a very hype game. Jacksonville Jaguars, Denver Broncos. He's showing right now. It looks like cover three or maybe man out here with Riley Mouse down here at the bottom. He's off by eight yards. That's where you play, man. And Brock Purdy put out a clip talking about how much quarterbacks have to anticipate. and they don't really see the throws that they're making, all these different type of things because of the pressure. Trevor Lawrence right now, he thinks he's going to hit a hole shot. We saw Dak hit CeeDee on a hole shot. You're going out and up. Riley Moss does a great job of showing, too, but turning and continuing to sink because he doesn't have another threat in that flat. And this throw has got to come out of his hands, so he's expecting Parker Washington to be right in that hole, but it was never a hole because Riley Moss continued to get back. You get a better little look at this from the TV copy. Just a great job. So just look in this game. If you're watching this game at home, you got it in the four box, you're like, what the fuck is Trevor Lawrence doing? 21 is sitting right there. You threw it right between the two and the one. But 16 has to anticipate and kind of let this one rip and kind of believe it before he sees it. And just a great job by Riley Moss getting a reroute and then continuing to sink and helping to safety out and picking that thing off. Riley Moss, pretty trailblazing. Oh, yeah. Great player. Very athletic play there, too. Very super-duper athletic play. He's having a great year. We did find another play that was super athletic on this field from the past. Darius J. Butler. Oh, yes. Oh, here it is. It's up here. It's up here. Great man. Yeah, this was Simeon. Trevor Simeon. So I saw Emmanuel Sanders. Knew the bubble was coming. Actually was supposed to blitz on that play. Got the pick. And, yeah, that would have been probably the best play of my career, honestly. Oh, no. And look at you. You can tell you're kind of, you know it. I was bummed out. Yeah. No, it's over. Dobber Don. Dobber was jogging off the field though, nice. I had to drop. I mean, look at this. Fucking. That was a good catch though. Are you kidding me? Great play. This would have, yeah, this would have, I mean, come on. Behind you too. You're going forward. The ball's behind you. What a catch. But, yeah, that thing. I mean, yeah, to your point, that sniper. When that thing goes, it goes a bad, bad feeling. I probably could have cried down there like Caleb allegedly did. But, yeah. I mean, that's going to happen. It's going to happen. Now, on that note, D-Butt did say, or it has been said about D-Butt that he had great hands for a DB. Like, really good hands for a DB. That's what they would say. Yeah. I played wide out in college. Played both ways. What would they say, like, on the team your hands would be? You think? Oh, we had Reggie Wayne. Unbelievable. So, he should be in the Hall of Fame. I'd probably put him at one. At T.Y. Hilton, who we saw come up and become one of the best wide receivers in the National Football League. After that, it was pretty clearly me at that number three spot. Clearly? Yeah, we had some other good receivers, some good tight ends. We got a punter who's got to catch snaps. Every time he's on the field, yeah. But, yeah. I was clearly, clearly me at the top. Yeah, okay. I mean, you had to move when you were catching the ball, so that's certainly a little added difficulty. But, there was a time that nobody wanted to see me on the jugs machine, A.J. Nobody. Nobody's ever snapped you that ball and you had to fucking. Really? Nah. Nobody's ever done that? Nah, fucking not. Ovi. No. You're going to tell me. Listen. Huh? Ovi would never do that to me. Fourth down army? Except for the one time, up high and to the right, had to do a mega little jump and grab. You know, that is the most moving I have to do while I'm catching it. But, yeah. I think the running of routes. And, having to run and catch is just a whole other animal. Like, I think that's like the athletic people who don't play like wide receiver. Mm-hmm. Who have caught before. Like, hey, just run like an in real quick. And, let's run at full speed. And, then we'll have somebody push you a little bit. And, then we'll have a quarterback put that thing on you and just poof. I mean, it's like always a holy shit. I'm running at ball and ball's coming. I struggled with that mightily when I was acting like I was a wide receiver. And, I had good hands. Like, that fucker's coming real quick. And, if you. If you don't have immediate grasp, that thing's gone. And, probably intercepting. And, you can't. Yeah. You can't. At your position, you can't drop the ball. Like. Yeah. It'll cost us. I can drop one and be, you know, third down. That's why he plays cornerback. Yeah. Exactly. It'll go down the score. But, catching the ball, definitely. I feel like it's more of like a natural skill. Obviously, you can work and you can get better at it. But, even if we all got kids. Like, it's a certain thing. You can just toss some shit at your kids. And, some of the kids just have just that natural hand-eye coordination. We had a player. Who was drafted into the top ten. Wide receiver. Love him. Worked his ass off. Every day, it'll be 30 minutes, 45 minutes on the jug. And, he just could never put it together. When it came to catching that ball. I think it's just a natural thing that some people have in different sports. And, just life in general. And, then others, you know, don't. Hey, kid. Could you do it? You got good hands? I got good hands. I'm an athlete, man. Yeah. He's an athlete. I agree you're an athlete, too. Some people just beat the ball up. Yep. Catching a high, you know, high pass in a post. That's right. Putting it down. With short arms. With new, utter hands. On hard tongue. No. He didn't do that on Nate Hardtongue. He did not do that on Nate Hardtongue. God, I got to find a film against Nate Hardtongue. I probably put up 22 and 12 against him. No way. I believe it. Okay. AJ believes it strictly because I think AJ over there in Ohio, he has also witnessed this type of build playing basketball at a very high level in high school. A.Q. Shipley, for those that don't know, Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League Hall of Fame basketball player. I believe 22 and 12, too. Yeah. I want to be on record. Hardtongue, also a Hall of Famer from my understanding. I think Hardtongue. Is he? You're telling me no. I would say yes. Same class. I would say yes, he certainly is. Here was A.Q. Shipley working to paint down underneath in high school. I think that's probably in the state championship game. No big deal. Did you guys win? Yeah, we won the state championship. 52-50 over Holy Ghost Prep. No big deal. How many did you score? I didn't have a good game that game. But look at you taking it to the rack right here with a big smile on your face and barbed wire tat on your right arm. That's right. And you didn't have that barbed wire connect anywhere because you wanted the evil spirits to get trapped. I just loved that little low post move. I was as wide as I was tall, and all those 6'6 skinny guys, they couldn't get around. Well, your elbow to the ribs. Just create a little space. Nice soft kiss off the glass. That's it. A little jump from Mike and Williamson before Zion. Yeah, he was. A little bit like that. Were you? In all facets. Were you calling bank whenever you were chatty out there? Oh, yeah. I talked. Yeah. I talked. I mean, but again, let's be very clear about something. The furthest shot I made in my entire high school career was maybe 6'0". So? It's a different game back then. Yeah. You were a hungry, hungry hippo underneath, huh? Just worked that little circle right there. How were the boards? Boards pretty good? Boards were great. Not as good as Angel Reese. Yeah, well, she also gets – I was kind of like her because I've missed three layups, and there's three. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that is – contested shots are always going to be missed, okay? That's right. That's going to happen in basketball. That's right. I do like the gimmick, though, kind of. I think more – if Baby Midas or McKenzie get into basketball, I'm not super against a miss to yourself, pick up a board, and two points, you know, like every single time you're down there. Yeah. I feel like she's kind of cracked the code a little bit. Get a couple of those, and then you get the and one. It's like three rebounds plus three points like that. One series. One series. Oh, that's what you did? Yeah, a lot. Hall of Famer. See? That's why you got to play to win. That's right. You know what else you need to win? Good D. Bingo. D-Bud, is this the last good D? Oh, we got two more. It's Devin Lloyd, though. He's on trajectory right now. Had a great year last year with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Five interceptions. Everybody kind of remembers that 99-yard pick six he had against Mahomes. This is him against Cooper Rush. Had two interceptions, nine tackles, and a sack in his game. He doesn't even pick this one off. He puts this one up in the air for Bobby. Arique. Oh, Caricay. Oh, Caricay. And he gets the tip. We talk about tips and overthrows all the time. Does a great job here. If you can see this from the back copy, you'll see Cooper Rush kind of pat the ball and wait. But running back one more time, Fox, from the top. I just want you to see how patient he is in his own coverage. This guy doesn't even move. But John Robinson, he's down here. He's going to widen his line back at the bottom, Bobby, and kind of go run his angle route. If Cooper lets this rip. Stop. He still has yet to move. Still hasn't moved. If he lets this rip while he's probably on the bottom of that wing or whatever it is, the logo, he maybe gets it. Maybe it's completion. But for some reason, he kind of fucking pats that ball, doesn't let it go, and that's just enough for him to come flat on that break. Talk about getting to your spot. He got there late, came flat, created a tip, and created, obviously, the interception. But just see patient. Boom. Underneath the fender, you're reading the quarterback's eyes. And if you run it back from this copy, if he just lets this rip, like talked about that Brock Perry thing, anticipating. That's got to come out of your hands right now. Right to number seven, maybe on the back hips. That little hesitation, getting to that throw, is what caused this interception and made it, obviously, not a completion. That's why it's impossible to be an NFL quarterback, AJ. Your windows are fleeting and very small. And if you don't, a guy that hasn't moved somehow, the patience there is outrageous, AJ. I don't know if that's a technique or something or what he's looking for, but windows are so small, especially with Devin Lloyd out there. Yeah, I think he's doing a good job. He's staying underneath of number three. You see, he's underneath that route going over top of him, then he's breaking on intention. And man, you're right. That little hitch is what got this, what caused this turnover. And this would have been a completion for, you know, 10, 12, 15 yards. Who knows if he doesn't have that hitch. Breaking on intention, that's something you obviously coach or taught? Yeah, as the quarterback is taking his hand off the ball, boom. We're breaking now. Because they say, oh, what if he double pumps? Well, if he double pumps, we better get a sack. Oh, yeah. Hey, that's not on me. That's on somebody else. You know what? He got us, if that's the case. And then that's why the no look is such a big deal. Yes. Because you're breaking on intention and eyes are one way, and then all of a sudden that's going a different direction. Absolutely. Cooper Cush is going to bust that out next time he gets here. Oh, we might not see Cooper Cush. Yeah, we might not see him back on the field for the Falcons, at least. They're calling him a lot of names. Yeah, they're calling him for him. Mussolini. No, it's just him. There's another one too. Pooper Rush. They're also calling him. Adolph. Cooper Adolph Rush, yeah. They're saying that? Dude, I'm telling you, right now on the internet, with what's all possible, 'Cause you can even, what, you could type in, I mean, you've always been able to Google things. You know, so like the, I don't fully understand the difference between like Googling and the advancing of Googling. Something that has kind of been taking place with, you know, like the ChatGPTs and the Clods and the, what are the other ones? There's another one in there. Those are the big ones. But people can Google or Chat or Clod, hey, what's a funny way to make fun of? So now they're getting options on how to make fun of it. And then they're able to take that to something else. So like the amount of resources now to research burying people also at a pretty high level. So this goes back to what we were talking about earlier where we got people that got access to things that have a great brain. Yeah, we've seen the great brains on the internet for a long, long time. And now they're getting a lot of different options to assist them. And they're doing it. Cooper Cush is certainly on the receiving end of some of that, I will say. Me as well, obviously. Who else is on the receiving end of that? Mike McCarthy most recently. They're coming after him. Yeah. Shane Steichen, Chris Ballard. Yeah, any coach, GM really. That loses. Yeah, they'll get the Gillis treatment. Oh, yeah. Because you've been turning them into Shane Gillis. Dan Campbell. Yeah, it's not just Shane Gillis they're turning people into. Which, by the way, would be a compliment if you're Shane Gillis. I think that would be a good news. Season 3 of Tires is really good on Netflix, available now. Dan Campbell's getting it right now? He was. He probably still is. On Friday after that Thursday night game he was. And then on Sunday after that. After the Bears, Ben Johnson was turned into Shane Gillis. Yeah, he got Gillis. Really? Yeah. I'm sure whoever loses. Did he get Osamud? I have not seen him get Osamabin yet, no. Just Ben Ballard. Okay. We already talked about Ballard and Colts. We've moved on. We were up in the NFC North. Thank you, Gumby, for reminding that. But, yeah, Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen have been. Osamabind. Mm-hmm. I know what's coming for Stefansi. I mean. It'll be a Stalin-Stefanski pretty quick. I think a lot of that is probably already happening. I mean, the Atlanta Twitter, really good. They're fed up. The Goats. Really, really good. I mean, they. All angles. Yeah. I mean, just all angles. Things that you think to yourself, wow, that is pretty terrible. And then they go, yeah. Think about it, though. And you're like, yeah, I guess it kind of does make sense with what's going on down there. How many years until they're good? Pennix is good. Forgot about that. Their offensive line is very good. Everything. Sheldon's good. Yeah. Drake London. They spent like $200 million on guys. True. By all accounts, they should be good. The NFL thought they were going to be good. Yeah. Three prime time games. Yeah. Straight. Okay, so Pennix is going to get there. Yeah. But just know the internet right now is swinging a hot bat. Let's go to our final good D from the Super Bowl champions. Back to the Super Bowl champs. I feel like they've been on a lot of these breakdowns for good reasons. Once again, presenting a too high shell now. So now it's the opposite. You're not presenting a single high. You're presenting a too high. And then it's going to go to a single high. Julian Love now back-to-back weeks where he's had an interception. Kind of baited Drake May in the one last week out of the post. He kind of shaded to that number three spot. Now here, Jacoby Brissett sees a rotation late. So now he sees a single high. When you get a single high, you know you've got a one-on-one on the outside. So he's going to go to his one-on-one. This is five rushers. So that's going to be three underneath, three deep once again. And let's get to this one-on-one. As a deep post safety, you're keying that quarterback. So just like the underneath defenders, the deep zone defenders are doing the same thing. Once again, that pressure has that clock ticking for Jacoby Brissett. He gets hit as he throws the ball, and he does a great job catching this ball. We saw Javon Holland get one on the sideline for the Giants almost just like this. But this is an unbelievable catch for anybody, but especially a DB back there. How about the finger strength down there, AJ, for that ball not to move off the ground or even touch the ground? You know, because I think the rule now is it's allowed to touch the ground, but it can't enhance or change. It's the ball movement or whatever. His left finger strength is absurd, AJ Hawk. Yeah, the fact that he was – like, I know they were – they probably did not think this was going to stand up, but I remember watching this in real time thinking, like, how in the world did he get – you're right, that left hand. This dude, you might want to test his hand strength. Like, this guy might be the strongest hands in the league. Yeah, do one of those grip strength things. Yeah. One of those little handy things. You know, I guess it works out, and this is why you lift all them hand things. That's right. So you can have this moment right here. Just an absurd – an absurd catch from a DB. Absolutely. We were just talking about this, but this is two weeks in a row now. Yeah, two weeks in a row you go down and make an incredible catch. This is on a money down, and it's not like – Kobe got hit as he was throwing his ball. Once again, you're going to go – you got Mike Wilson out there who, one-on-one, you're going to take that shot once you have that post safety. But him getting hit, the pressure, you know, you send a five, so you want some pressure. Whenever you send five, you're going to lose one in coverage. So for him to take advantage of this, get home, is another reason why – a big reason why the Seattle Seahawks – now, you know, 12 consecutive wins, 2-0, even without their starting quarterback. It's always a team effort. They did a great job disguising pre-snap, getting in post-snap, and then execute. You can do all this shit as a DB. If you don't finish it and make this play, it's a punt. You flip it. Now your offense has to go the long way. Instead, Julian Love does a great job reading his keys, keying the quarterback, and then putting that foot in the ground. It's like a combine drill if you just watch him, boom, flip the hips, get him back, come flat, and then make an unbelievable catch. And now your offense has the ball with the backup quarterback at the plus 45-yard line. You said 12 straight wins? 12 straight wins for them? Yep. We watched Hard Knocks. It was pretty obvious why, wasn't it? Just like their entire culture, tough, hard, dialed in. They like each other. I really liked what I saw from the Seattle Seahawks Hard Knocks. Everybody should be trying to bottle that, get it into their building. Ain't that right, Ty? Yeah, but I think we – of course, everyone should try to do that. There are very few teams that can actually do that. It also seems like the truly great teams, like the elite teams, are the ones who are capitalizing on those plays and actually getting interceptions. And most of the teams who are kind of just, you know, like he's – he's never converting that. You're punting back to him. And then your offense isn't doing anything with it. And it feels like they always put themselves in this position. That's a McDonald team, it seems like. Three years in right now? Yeah. We already know his culture. We already know what he likes, what he doesn't like, how he's going to play. What a start for him and Seattle. Congrats on our new owner. Yeah. Just inherits a team that's won 12 – well, didn't inherit. Paid mightily for a team that has won 12 straight games. That's a lot better than where you could be. It was a nine straight. Yeah, worth it. It's a hard-ass league. You know what else is hard? That good D segment. Yeah. That's hard, dude. Appreciate you. Good work, bud. Good work, D, bud. That was good, good, D. Now can we do something that is also freaking hard-ass as well? AQ Shipley, would you like to try to win some money for some people as the universe spoke directly through that baseball and said we're going to be A-OK for the rest of the season? Is that baseball season or football season? We don't know. But what we do know is if you're able to throw one of these final footballs that are up here into that hoop right over there, you would win 20 people $500. How do you feel, A.J., about A.Q.'s chances, especially because we highlighted his bucket-getting career back in the day just a few moments ago? I feel very good about A.Q. draining this first shot. I know there's a second ball on stage. I don't think we're going to need it. There's also a third, it appears. Yeah, there is. I could have went for those. Instead, I realized in real time I was powering through balls for the A.Q. Shipley throw at the end. But he doesn't need anything more than one. Ain't that right, D-Bot? Just needs one. Ty, anything to say to Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League Basketball Hall of Famer before he attempts to win 20 people $500? Just pretend like you're back in that gym in Moontown doing a mic and drill before one of your bag of ball games. Put this thing in the hoop. I like to hear that. Just like that. Just like that. We don't need you to be getting any of your me-bounds. Okay, don't be doing that. We need you to put it in the bucket. 20 people could win $500 if Penn State Nittany Lion legend A.Q. Shipley, who's a Super Bowl champion, can put that NFL flag football, which is delightful. Yeah. It's nice. It's a nice one. Into that hoop right over there. Oh, great. Yeah, you've had a couple great lines. Wow. I don't know if you expected it to kind of have that under, like, kind of drop. But I thought that thing was going to land nicely, like one of those Osprey helicopters. Right there. I thought that was in. Do you want another opportunity? Yep. Hold on, though. Should we set precedent here? Is it just once a week for A.Q. and for Chuck tomorrow? Or do we provide more options? Chuck got two. Well, and it's tough because Chuck ain't making it on the first time. We've seen a couple of Chuck's throws. Chuck, Chuck, he ain't hitting the fucking. Backboard on his first throw a lot of the time. So Chuck needs more than one. Yeah, you give those sandbagging kids extra shots, too, on the weekend. Well, I can't really get out of those situations. We are certainly open to ideas on how we do that one. I think this week will be a little different than the last two weeks. Yes. I think you'll see a little. Just do it like drugs. Just say no. Okay. It's a dare program. This isn't charity. Okay. Amen. Or maybe you have a full operation and have Stanford Steve rifle snap back there. There we go. They're taking advantage of you, man. They still got to make the kick. Okay, where are you finding these guys? Yeah. So it's they're unbelievable from UXFL member Baton Rouge. There was a miss. You know, Herbie sent me a text. Herbie was like, What's going on? Are we changing something here? This can't just be what this is. Right. And I go, Guy, Baton Rouge Missy goes, Oh, yeah, that's right. Guy did. It was right online, though, if you recall. So it's the first 300 people that get there to college game day. People are waiting in line days for this. Obviously, it's making sense why they're doing. it they get a ticket then during one of the commercial breaks i forget which one uh jen lotta jessims and dj griff uh do the random selection person stands up a this is me they have to have an id on them because we have to verify that they're older than 18 obviously because everything that takes place then there's a liability waiver that is signed and then kind of it's here we go now you got an opportunity but yeah it's the first 300 and it does feel like a lot of soccer players are just going to be the first 300 guys in there or ex-soccer players which is a good gimmick i respect them doing that but we will have to make some adjustments you know to make sure it is entertaining and not just an easy kick every single week some of these guys though like him should think about maybe doing you know a little bit of practice effortless actually going and trying to kick because you can make more than just one million off of kicking good shot if you're to be pretty good at this you could you know he was good barefoot yeah better than connor connor hit a great ball lefty i liked connor a lot this guy that was like a 50 i'm gonna say it felt like if he actually like really went after it he could have made like a 50 yard field goal well i think that one would have been good from 50 but i also think like if he learned how to actually kick i think he'd be able to because that was not like a kicker's motion no connor had a kicker motion he followed up and threw a point he was just like a soccer player that was just kind of chopping that thing just trying to do like one of those uh you see the boys passing the ball along to each other so there's like and it's like a backspin that's what he did to the football right there that's nowhere near like as hard as you can kick a ball so i think this kid actually if he was to work a little bit first try to yeah i could probably figure it out how to how to do it i was very impressed and i assume aj just like after week one there were some people that are potentially trying to get this guy's info to be like hey do you just want to you want to give it a go bro if you can make a kick for a million bucks we assume you'll be able to maybe knock one down in the third quarter that we've been missing over the course of the season so i think it's a good thing that we're trying to kick here i mean this is as pressure packed as a kick as you're gonna have yeah i mean that's a tight little tunnel too i mean he could shank that hit somebody in the face i mean i a lot of people saying they're hustling me they're hustling they know how to kick it's like they still got to make the kick oh yeah you know like kids that are kicking on saturdays and sundays the dudes that kick on sunday they know how to kick too and they miss it that's what that's what's so impressive about these this guy first kick steps right up million bucks on the line let me go ahead and deliver for the lads then goes and sprints to the boys in the back which i respect and appreciate but it was a fun one there it was certainly a fun one very hot we're gonna have to change it a little bit though need a rush live rush i agree stanford steve p thamel put a helmet on them both maybe p thamel on stanford steve's shoulders there we go perfect okay or better yet p thamel trying to block stanford steve how about that yeah oh not p thamel snaps the curve yeah yeah there we go now we're talking and then stanford steve yeah but what if pete like chopped or something blew out both stanford steve's knees can you facetime p thamel just part of the game yeah exactly chalk it up can you please facetime p thamel just so we can get other guys in a wheelchair the next week double acl tear he'd still be able to do it thamel's a tough son bitch he said he's not my killings he damn near dude he uh stanford steve's he's in a room better better vibes in room i mean he's he's on the road eight days a week right now just football football football football football he's doing a podcast what 1am after saturday's college football games on site after doing all of game day with scott van pelt that's right then we're traveling to monday night football then we're on monday night football then we're doing tuesday at this place so we're going home for a day then now we're doing college game day we got a walk through at the practice guy getting his next game he is stanford steve's doing ball and he is in an incredible vibe every time uh joining us now ladies and gentlemen is the authority of college sports as a whole pete thamel pete well hello hello patch yes okay so i see you have your hoodie on there for the college game day another celebration we had our 500th road show to kick off this particular season you've obviously been batting a thousand uh the kickers have also damn near been batting a thousand so the last two weeks obviously big kicks have been made uh this kid makes it on the first try beautiful i i think he should actually think about getting into kicking maybe if he wanted to commit his life to it the element to this thing, you know, to make it a little bit more difficult now that we have found out that mostly soccer players are camping out early to be able to get the things, to be able to kick. The thought was maybe you long snap the Herbie and then block Stanford Steve, who's coming in to block the kick. Any thoughts on that? Just first response as you hear about this brand new idea? So I have a lot of respect for the long snapping and the actual art of it, Pat, and I've learned a lot about special teams from you. And you've given like these long speeches in the office about some of the nuances and special teams. It's really been interesting for me as someone who didn't play football to learn a lot about that. I think I would be very poor at snapping. And I also think the physics of me versus Stanford Steve, not great. It would be a little bit like trying to match up with Stanford Steve at the hotel bar. Always a dangerous thing to do, right? So yeah, so I would just think generally, generally, that sounds like if you wanted the kicks to knock. If you wanted the kick to be made, that would be a very good ruse to try to protect your wallet. Okay. Bingo. Two key pieces of it. Yeah. Okay. So but you would do it if we did ask and say, hey, this is what we think is the right thing for the for the good of the kick. Yeah, anything for the show, Pat. You know, I'm a team player. So yeah, I would have to get some some snapping lessons, probably. Shoulder pads, full pads, full pads, shirt. Eye black. Helmet, huge thigh pads. Suit on. Yeah. I think suit on. Yes. Shoulder pads over top, snapped in, tie hanging, helmet on. And I do think thigh pads on the suit pants on the outside of them. Thigh pads, I'm sorry, hip pads as well, the big ones. Yeah, girdle over the top of the pants. These ones. Tail pad. Tail pad on the belt. Thanks for that girdle, Connor. Appreciate that. No problem. No problem. Maybe football pants with his suit pants coming out the bottom of them. Oh, football pants on top of the suit. Yeah, that's a good idea. Cleans. Yeah, I like that. Double XL jock. Yep. Obviously. And we're just going to keep it moving. All right. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. That's the story of Pete. Thank you, Pete. Figured it out. If you would like to protect your banking or your wallet, that'd certainly be a good idea to have me two parts of this. Have to do it at least one week. Him coming out in full pads. Everything. Yeah. We have pitched a lot of ideas for Pete, have we not? Yeah. They haven't all been used. They haven't all been used, but. Which is a shame. He's got to wear rec specs under his helmet too, obviously. Oh, I like that. Like hot rod. I like that, like hot rod. Him wearing shoulder pads on top of his suit. Would be awesome. The tie hanging. Cowboy, cowboy collar, all of it. Football pants on top of his suit pants would be great. His baggy suit pants coming out the bottom. With the, the old school, the belt with the pads. Yep. Yes, definitely. Somebody, yeah. When kids wear the full sweats under their stuff, yeah, when it's cold. Yes, exactly. Under the shorts. You know, they wear the shorts with the sweats. Yeah, we're thinking like that. Because we do assume, I'm not going to take a shot that everybody else would take, but we assume those football pants would probably be a little baggy. Yeah. Oh, Pete? Depends who makes them. No. No, he's got a donk. I mean, they got to be Nike pants. Hey, Adidas is going to the national championship. That's what Adidas is. True. You heard Herbie, he's going to like those baggy-ass Adidas pants. And now they're done with them. Bro, he was saying that Miami, as many schools took an Adidas deal that's gigantic, and they've been having success, like Indiana, where I believe one of the higher-ups went to school. Good for them. Both based in Portland, or Oregon. Adidas? And Nike. Oh, okay. Both based out of Oregon. Hmm. Do we know that? No. I thought Adidas was- Okay, so Adidas used to have like regional shit here in America. It was headquartered in Europe, so it was like Adidas Northeast, Adidas Southeast, Adidas this, Adidas this. It was kind of like licensing, like car dealerships, from my understanding of what Adidas was. Mm-hmm. And it became, one person ended up getting them all, and became Adidas USA, or whatever it is. And I think that person was either at Nike before, or had been at Nike before, so already lived up there, had it all set. Makes sense. Leave, buy it, create it, then it becomes Adidas USA. And then it's like, who's in charge of running that company, is like the one deciding what they're investing their money in. So I think one of the newer people that is in charge at Adidas USA likes American football, which is why there has been a lot of focus on getting into American football. Where it had previously been foodball, and basketball, and other sports, because that's the person that was here. So I think Adidas is trying their best with this particular leadership, especially some of the people I've talked to, like we're trying to, we know American football is where we would be. Can they go to Adidas? Yeah. Oh yeah. Huge. Huge deal. Huge deal, right? 10 for 300. Whew. Yeah, like they are trying to, I think Adidas is trying their best to get back into football, or get into football in a big way. And then Herbie's out there going, "They're fucking bullshit. Keep them out of here." I'm like. Oh, Herbie, Herbie, Herbie. I think they're trying to get into the sport, you know, they need to figure it out. You know, I'm sick of looking at these pants the way they have. And that's real. It's just like when you were click clacking, like Under Armour got into football. We like any company that's investing big into football. It's obviously good. But those first, what, four pairs of cleats? They were trying to figure out what cleats were at that time. I'm not saying that's happening with Adidas, but kind of. They're just still trying. Nike is dialed. Absolute dialed. They just lost a big, big fish. Who? Mbappe. Mbappe? Mbappe? Went to On Cloud. On Cloud. Roger? Good for Fed. Yes. That's Roger Federer, right? Yeah, it is. He's going to have on-cloud cleats? Well, he's been wearing Nike cleats, and he's just been, like, whiting them out or whatever. And then, so Nike actually released the whited-out version of his cleat, like, the next day or week, which I thought was a great move. So he'll probably still be wearing Nike until they – he's been in the lab with Thierry Henry, because he's also with on-cloud as well. Thierry Henry? Yep. Yeah, he's an on-cloud athlete as well? Yep, him too. Okay. That's a dictator. How about Zlatan Ibrahimovic? Is he also an on-cloud? I'm not sure. Nike. Thierry Henry and Zlatan were very well together. They were. I mean, that little juggling thing they did. It was unbelievable. It was sick. It was unreal. Yeah, it was really good. Everybody was like, Lexi Law, she looks stupid. It's like, you know how many people Thierry Henry has made look stupid with a fucking soccer ball? A lot. Little Lexi Law is going, oh, is that coming to me? No, it's not. Fuck, why are we starting a video with that? Yep, got to do it. And then they start doing her little fucking gimmicks. They're old men, too. Those guys are retired. Oh, yeah. That's what football needs. Why don't you guys have those two on TV? Gumpy, what are we doing? I thought we had it figured out. They did for the World Cup. That was it. Zlatan retired. He did say he's done. Thierry Henry's on for Champions League on CBS Sports every game. Golazo? He's with Gorilla? No, different crew. He's with Jamie Carragher, Liverpool legend, Drew Scouser through and through. Of course. And Micah Richards, Manchester City legend. Oh, yeah, I remember. We asked for Thierry Henry to come on the show. Somebody told them they were all coming on the show, not us. We had zero interaction with them. And then whenever it was our understanding that we didn't have enough chairs for everybody because we didn't know they were coming on, we were the terrible people. Do you remember that happening? Mm-hmm. I like their moxie of that show, though. Great show. It's a good show. They should add Gorilla in there. Oh, this is the video, yeah. Do you? That's how our kickabouts used to look. Yeah, I mean, in suits. They should have just done it. They should have just did this for the entire World Cup coverage. Just let her. Yeah. Oh, sweet. Andrew, how many of these could you do, you think? I mean, I'm just thinking of how bad my knee would hurt trying to -- how they're checking this ball up in the air. Like, these guys are still very flexible. Yeah, still very flexible. Still in great shape. Do they still play? Are these guys in, like, celebrity games or anything, Gumsch? Zlatan will do some random stuff, but Thierry doesn't really play much. Zlatan's workout videos are crazy. He does, like, CrossFit and handstands and shit. Yeah, I mean, that's Zlatan, isn't it? He retired until next World Cup coverage, or he just said he's done forever? I imagine he said, "I'm retired. I'm done forever," just so the next one, it'll be an even bigger deal for -- because the World Cup rights are up. No one knows who's going to have them. Good for Zlatan. He's playing it right. We already miss him on TV, and none of us are watching soccer right now. No. None of us. Never will. What? No. Yeah. No way. Next World Cup, I thought we're back. It's fucking week three or four. I'd rather watch 17 games of Case Keenum than watch more soccer. Yeah. Yeah. Nations League starts tomorrow. Pretty massive tournament. Yeah, of course it is. Every massive tournament. England and Spain on Saturday. COSM, you see COSM across the bottom there, was sponsoring that. I didn't know COSM was sponsoring their set over there. I met the guy who did COSM. Didn't they say, "Isn't one supposed to be coming to Indy downtown?" Yeah. One was in Detroit. I think one of their most recent ones. Just opened. In Detroit. Yeah, they're about to put one right in where that Indiana Fever facility's going. Half of it is a COSM. Okay, so the guy that -- AJ, you'd love this guy. His name's Jeb, J-E-B. My favorite bush. Please clap. He is absolutely jacked, the guy that started COSM. Good energy, too. Absolutely good energy. I just asked him how much it would cost for me to turn one in there. He gave me the realistic price, and I go, "Jesus fucking Christ." And he started explaining, like, "Yeah, these are really, really good L.E.D." High-tech facility. Yeah, we had really good results. Whatever it is, it's fucking worth it. It's unbelievable. Yeah, those shits are crazy. Incredible. You're there, you know? Like, so many people can't get to either their teams whenever you're not in town or maybe the ticket pricing is so crazy. For them to set up a movie-theater-like experience, an all-indulging, I guess, experience, and it's like you were there. The cameras that they have placed -- he actually pointed, he was like, "Ah, camera right there, camera right there, camera right there," and then he just kind of switched through it. I've seen videos from, what, football games, basketball games, hockey games, and then WWE, they're even on, like -- Oh, really? One of the posts, I believe, whenever they're going in. It's -- That's dope. Yeah, they're doing it all, and I think they're only trying to grow. Brilliant concept. Brilliant concept, especially modern technology. Huge investment, though. I mean, this LED board was, this is, what, 1/100th of whatever a Cosm is? Maybe 1/200th of what a Cosm is, the amount of space? Maybe 1,000, I don't know what the case is. But do you think about the sphere, and then what, Cosm is just like a mini-earth sphere, right? It's kind of how they have it everywhere? Yeah. I think it's a good idea. It's a good -- it also gets people out, which I like, community experiences. I like people getting out and living a little bit. And Jeb, good energy, but absolutely jacked. I gave him a pat on the back for the traps, clearly shrugging his way through some things. Yeah. He's a mosh of good energy. I mean, he was super pumped. Gotta get you in one of these things. You got it, Jeb. No problem. Jeb Barton Terry Jr., American former professional football player, okay, selected by the Bucs in the fifth round of the 2004 NFL Draft, played college football for the Tar Heels. He played for Culver Military Academy at the high school level. Terry was also a member of the San Francisco 49ers. Now, cause him. So, football guy, of course. Makes sense. Still yoked. Still yoked, which I appreciate him still getting after it. And I like when football people are doing it, just like Pat Murphy of the Milwaukee Brewers. That's right. He was formerly a football coach, right? He was, yeah. Then he gets in a baseball coach and says, "This is easy." Now he's rallying the boys. His first two, before he went to Notre Dame and coached, he was at, like, two different D3 colleges where he was the head baseball coach and an assistant football coach at both places. So, Aaron Judge is not playing baseball anymore? At least not in the wild card round because they've thought they could still win the division. He came back. He should have just been DH and he was playing the field. He got a calf strain, so he's gonna be out for a little bit. But you did make that baseball throw, so there's maybe a chance he does play in the wild card round. Yeah, we don't know what's coming from that baseball universe toss. Skeeno did come out and talk a little bit about how his season has gone. And I don't like this, D-Blood. I don't know if you've heard. I have not. What, did he just take complete ownership and just say, "Hey, you gotta figure it out because I'm a fucking guy?" Mm-hmm. Or? He. He certainly made the toxic table feel very good about themselves. Oh, boy. What happened, Ty, if you could kind of explain? Yeah, he kind of just said that he thinks that the dip in velocity and some of the other issues that he may have had this year potentially did stem from competing in the World Baseball Classic, too. He said that? To start the season. He did, that's what he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. And he said he was the only one, though, right? No, he said he thinks a lot of guys may have been affected by it. You know, you look at some of these other guys who got hurt or maybe just got off to really slow starts or maybe just never started at all. That can happen sometimes when you play in a tournament before your actual season that you're getting paid a bunch of money starts. Did the international players have the same issues? Good question. I don't know, and I don't give a shit. No, I know, I'm just curious. I know he said that, but I mean. Oh, you know what, actually, actually, yeah, Austin Wells, who is a white guy. He's Dominican?. who played for the Dominican, he is the Yankees catcher. And he's had the worst season of his career, by far. Fernando Tatis Jr. didn't hit a home run for six months. Well said. How'd Vlad Guerrero Jr. do this year? Not great. I think he hit, like, 12 homers. He's making, like, $500 million. O'Neal Cruz missed a lot of games for the Pirates as well. Juan Soto got hurt, missed a lot of games. Contreras, big bang for the Red Sox. And the tournament. So now that you bring it up, yeah, a lot of the international guys, they had issues as well. I know the U.S. guys did. I know Vinny Pasquantino, the Pasquatch, a guy who we love, who. Italy. Yeah, star for Team Italy. He didn't have a great year either. And I believe it was a contract year for him. And I think he's probably saying, "Goddamn, I wish I wouldn't have fucking played in the World Baseball Classic." I would like to go back in time, though. I had so much fun at the World Baseball Classic. Oh, no, no, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Hindsight now, though, fuck that thing. I'm done with it. I hope they never play it again. You're done with the entire World Baseball Classic? Without a doubt. USA's gonna just roll out who's gonna play for us? We're not entering the competition. High school kids. We have-- this is an MVP, didn't he play? Didn't PCA play in the. Well, he did, but if you remember, he maybe didn't start a couple of the games after being one of the only fucking guys who was hittin', you know? And that one might have been on D-Roll. So D-Roll actually saved him, maybe, by not playing him in the World Baseball Classic, even though we all really wanted him to be on the diamond, especially if we're going to win the title. Con Man, it feels like you've been pretty heavy on this World Baseball Classic's "The Root of All Evil." It's been pretty powerful because of Tony Toney's boy, how he got injured, as well. Yeah, I'd roam into that list. I mean, we knew, but once again, baseball fucking sucks, okay? I'm excited for Tuesday. This'll be awesome, for sure. So many of those guys we just listed is the biggest ahookies, you know? At the end of the day, Yankee Sox in the first round, it's gonna be cool no matter what, you know? Actually brutal, judge can't play. Like, the guys who are gonna be in the playoffs that can't play, that's ridiculous. You know, WBC, whatever, you know? Same thing with soccer, almost, but I'm excited for the playoffs. I think it'll be really, really fun. And now we do know that if you have a player on your own team playing in the WBC, maybe hope D. Rowe benches him, 'cause then they'll win the MVP like PCA. I do like that we're not blaming D. Rowe anymore, though, for this. I don't wanna do that. Yeah, me neither. I mean, he took enough heat. He took a lot of heat. And when he lays his head down at night, he knows, like, "God, I fucked up so much." So many guys in their seats. He did it. It's the classic we're talking about, not him, right? I think they maybe share equal blame. No way. Him, Albert Pujols. Yeah, Pujols. Some of the other coaches of the teams, they probably think, I don't know who coached Italy. Miggy? You could throw Miggy in there. Miggy. I'm assuming they all. So we got no baseball next year, and we got no World Baseball Classic in your eyes. What are we supposed to do? Well, I don't know. Watch the banana. Let's watch the bananas and enjoy that these guys are pulling the penises out of their baseball pants every fucking chance. Savannah Bananas. Every chance. They're not doing that. Like McConaughey, Kimmel. That is not what they do. I heard about that at the Emmys. Classic McConaughey. Classic. Just trying to help them. Nice guy. Savannah Bananas, though, that is not what they do. You need to know that. You need to make sure you clarify that. That's what I've been told. That's what I've heard. No, it's the bananas. That's the name of the team. It's not like they're showing their banana. No, but I heard that's why they're called the bananas, because these guys love pulling bananas every chance they get. It's a family-friendly environment. Very. I went to a game. It was awesome. It was a fan-first type of environment. That's what they're looking for. They have a cosmic baseball, too, so I guess it's not just bananas. We could do the cosmic baseball next year as well. No, thanks. I'll stick with the MLB. I'll stick with watching regular baseball, and if they're not going to play, I'll stand in solidarity with the players, and I won't be watching either. What about college baseball? When does that happen? College baseball, I'll pay attention to that. Around College World Series, outside of that, you know, whatever. It starts way too early. It starts in March, and it's cold outside. We're in the Midwest. I mean, there's fucking snow. I don't like watching baseball when there's fucking snow on the ground. You might not be watching any baseball next year. Yeah, there's a chance. But what does the Dodgers – I mean, we'll get to the bottom of it when it has to happen. Yeah, I mean, I don't fucking know. I mean, the guy's a fucking crook. You know, what else is there to say? Bottom line. You know? Playoffs are going to be – He's a lying, cheating bastard, and he's going to go to jail for a long, long time because of it. And? And what's going to happen? And now we're not going to have a baseball season, and it's all that son of a bitch – it's all his fault. And I hate saying that because he fucking was born and raised in Cedar Rapids. Was he? This is – Iowa's got another one. Exactly. He's an Iowa guy. Very successful. Lying, cheating scumbag, but very successful. He changed baseball pretty good. He did. I mean, he was just – so he had not – he didn't have any of that money. No, just an absolute fraudster through and through. Dodgers center. Mark. Walter has been sued by a class action law firm on behalf of a senior citizen who bought an annuity from Delaware Life earlier this year. The lawsuit seeks damages for negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract, and aiding and abetting fraud. There's people looking into it. Wait, is my money going to the Dodgers? That's high finance, baby. You got to watch out for it. Might have a new field house downtown. I think he owns Cambridge. Does he really? What? Yeah. So does anybody own that? That's kind of the question now. He's got his hands and everything. He truly does. Loved sports. Just couldn't wait to get involved in sports. Loved fucking taking old people's money and buying sports teams with it. Shohei Ohtani. Crazy. Iowa guy. Goddamn right. Cedar Rapids guy. Iowa guy, though. Yeah. Where's Cedar Rapids at? It's about an hour from where I'm from. Where are you from? Waterloo. Anybody else that I would know? We've been over this. John Wayne Gacy, who you're trying to act like is from Waterloo. Did live there. They found him in Des Plaines, Illinois. And that's where they were like, oh, wow, this guy's fucking killing a bunch of people, being weird, sodomizing guys, being a weirdo. That's where he was arrested. Not in Waterloo. We watched a documentary on this man who was one of the worst serial killers of all time. And we were doing the show. It was quite a surprise to hear he was from Ty's exact hometown. Yeah, no doubt. He actually lived on the same street that my grandma and grandpa lived on. For like 50 years. So that was, you know, pretty eye-opening. Crazy. Let's keep our heads on a swivel out there. Without a doubt. He did invent the chicken little from KFC, though. So if you ever enjoyed one of those, you can fucking have him to thank for that. It's a little nugget. Yeah, it's a great sandwich. I don't know if he had anything to do to add in the piece of cheese on it. The piece of American cheese. That was a big revolutionary move. But he did invent the chicken little. He did work at the KFC, though. Oh, yeah. That was actually his final meal on death row. That was Carl's original recipe. Thank you. Great work this week. Great work to you, boys. Thanks for traveling out here. Thanks for having me. Do you know who John Wayne Gacy is? So, it's the monster Netflix, right? I haven't watched it, but probably. The clown. He dressed up like the clown. There's a new monster. I think he was second season. There's a new monster out called Lizzie Burden or something like that. Lizzie Burden, sure. There it is. There it is. I just started that. She's a clown. She's the axe murderer. Yep. Lizzie? Yeah. Sicko. So, there's something else going on. Lizzie Clancy? Is that her name? Lizzie? Lizzie, I think, yeah. People have strong feelings about that. I don't even know what's going on with it. Yeah, just stay away from that. Me, too. I've seen it pop up. Had a lot of headlines. A lot of headlines. Oh, yeah. Husband. Ex-husband just did an interview as well. Patrick. Remarried, correct? Remarried, expecting a child. Oh, he did 60 Minutes. Bruce just told me. Yeah, with his. Oh, yeah. New wife. So, a lot of that stuff has not hit my algo, which is sweet. Because it sounds like people are getting very, very, very, very, very, very into that. If it does. It's deep. It won't get out. So, I assume there's a doc coming about this at some point? Yeah, HBO, I believe, has. I think it's coming out, like, very soon. Either that or it's, like, going on concurrently with all the shit that's happening. All right. I'll learn everything about it at some point. We live in a wild world. Don't we? Oh, yeah. Crazy. It'd be cool to get to the port where we all want to be, though. Like, where everybody just kind of gets along. You know, we try to make that happen every single day in here. Boy, it backfires a lot, it seems like. Seems like it gets loud out there. But if everybody could rally around, you know, life, like we rally around sports, boy. It'd be a lot better world, wouldn't it? Mm-hmm. Today, we try to showcase sports just like we do every other day. And on this particular Wednesday, we went deep in our analysis. D-Buck, great work this week. Thank you. Hey, baby. Good situational report. Thank you. Good. Good D. Nice. Good football players out there. Yeah, good football players are a great D out there. Mm-hmm. A lot of that. Talks to the table. Great work today, boys. You too. Hey, you too. D-Buck, safe travels. Boys in the back, great work. We'll be back tomorrow. AJ, way to go, pal. Any final words, AJ, to the people watching at home? Um, no. I thought about it for a second. I don't have anything. All right. That's good. That's good. I didn't know if you wanted to announce, we got over 3 million on YouTube. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, shit. There you go. That's huge. It's a big deal. You're getting a plaque, another something. I don't know how that works, obviously, but we are very, very, very, very, very, very thankful for the people that watch along at YouTube and have for years now. Obviously, our YouTube show is the reason why anything can happen, and the people that have watched. And followed along through a lot of different iterations and eras of this particular program are the best people on earth. So, we're up over 3 million. Who knows where we'll end up at? Very rarely do we talk about this, but ring the bell, dude. Yeah. Hell yeah. Shout out to the chat. I'm in there. You know, when I'm not on, traveling or something, I'll hop in the chat. I will, as I've said numerous times, I have never, ah, a couple times, I've gone in there and looked at what was happening. I try to stay away from it, but I do appreciate the activity. The activity that happens within the chat. And also, there's a couple people I've run into who have, ah, I believe they are the, ah. Keepers of the chat. Boom. There they are. Keepers of the chat. Bill kind of runs a tight ship in there. Does he? Oh, yeah. See, that's something that, like, I learn in real time that I don't, like, is Bill McComas the one that should be? But, yeah, I guess he should be. Bill. Thanks for doing it, Bill. Hell yeah, Bill. Good work, Bill. Congratulations, Bill. Shout out, Bill. Oh, here's the chat right here. Actually. Obviously, Bruce has shown him. We did a chat. Get in here, Pat. Yeah, right. Thank you for acknowledging us. Well, anytime. Me. Hey, we got a shout out. Yes, you have, Slime Roy. No, don't say it. Two-year member watching for four. Shout out. Katrina is who they're talking about. One person says Katrina sucks. One person says thank you, Katrina. I guess that's kind of what it is. That's what it is. That's life. Shout out to everybody that follows along. Shout out to subscribing on YouTube. It's literally only because of you guys that we're able to do this. We're able to do anything. So, thank you. We'll continue to try to celebrate the shit out of football and sports and life every single day. No matter what's being said or misquoted or misrepresented outside to try to put me in a situation to potentially get killed by people who get very excited. Because if it wasn't for all of you, we wouldn't get to do any of this. And God, we are lucky that we get to do this. Hell, yeah. Safe travels. Safe travels. Thank you. You too, bro. This weekend. Yeah. Have an incredible night to all of you. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Football's back, baby. One, two, three. Team. Team. Goodbye.