PMS 2.0 1628 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 2 Recap, MNF Preview/Picks, Michael Irvin, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to this glorious Overreaction Monday, September 21st, 2026. This sports program begins right now. Football is the absolute greatest. I am here at SoFi Stadium in lovely Los Angeles, California, as not in a dome, but certainly a little breezy morning, as this beautiful city plays host to our second Monday night football game, as the New York Giants, under John Harbaugh's leadership, look to be a ground-and-pond squad. And then the Los Angeles Rams, who went down to Australia, they went down, under, and got ponded into the ground by the San Francisco 49ers, who didn't look tired at all coming back from Australia. They actually look like they might be the best team in all of ball. The Giants, obviously a run game. The Rams have Aaron Donald potentially back. I don't think that has been official yet, but all indicators are that one of the greatest players in the history of football will be making his debut after a two-year hiatus this evening in this beautiful stadium. So, ball is fantastic. Monday night football's matchup is marquee. The Sunday slate had some interesting storylines begin to develop. Some of these teams that we thought were absolute shite and maybe in the dumpster for the rest of their lives might not be asked. Talking about you, the Browns. Hey, way to go, Bronies. Way to go, Bronies. I don't think anybody expected that for Cleveland, especially after a two-hour delay down there in Tampa Bay, sitting in the visitor's locker room. And all Tampa Bay has to do is a quick red zone, two-minute drill to potentially win this game and send Cleveland back home drenched, delayed, and with another L. Instead, Deshaun Watson gets his first win in like 600-and-some days or so. Good for him, good for the Browns, and good for Todd Munkin, who is seemingly electrifying behind a microphone, and every single time he gets a chance to speak on camera. So, they're not asked. There's some teams that might be spectacular, and we know that all day today we'll be covering every single angle. Adam Schefter will be joining us in about 30 minutes or so. Dan Orlovsky will be live. He was saying some stuff last week. We certainly got to kind of clear up a little bit. And then, obviously, the boys back in the Thunderdome are absolutely slaughtering it. Ladies and gentlemen, let's give a big thanks to college football national champions, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup, winner, A.J. Hawk. Thank you, Hawker. Thank you, Hawker. Oh, yeah. Thank you for traveling over to the Thunderdome. I heard you're in your militant boots and your militant pants. Is that because this Overreaction Monday is filled with ground-and-pound conversations about what happened yesterday in the NFL? Yeah, a little bit. When I go on Amazon, I tend to order cargo pants, tactical pants, all of the things, a little stretchiness into them. I got like 15, 18 different pockets. I got hammer holders, pockets for whatever it is. Of course. In honor of all the ground-and-pound and a lot of the teams fighting through some of the weather yesterday, some of the adversity and the elements. You know, that's what I'm representing, I guess. I like you wearing big boots to get into the big-boy conversations. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, is over there in the Thunderdome. Darius J. Butler, I love the hat. Obviously, accessorizing with the hoodie. You look fantastic. There were a couple teams that looked great yesterday, a couple teams that looked like ass. I'm excited for the top five. And more importantly, I'm excited for the shite division that we will roll out tomorrow. They're saying the AFC South might not just be one cheek. It might be two full-ass cheeks down here. And I didn't expect that. Now, obviously, they're one in seven. I do believe the NFC South has two wins, obviously, through their eight. So, the AFC South is potentially the shite division all by themselves. D, but anything you saw from the teams that maybe didn't look great yesterday that alarmed you or startled you? Oh, I mean, Miami Dolphins. Obviously, that's very, very alarming. The Miami Dolphins and the L.A. Chargers. So, obviously, two coming into this year. Those were two of my teams. The Chargers very, very startled by their start. And, look, we know it looks ugly going forward for them. We expect them to probably come out and start 2-0. A lot of people expected Herbert to be in MVP conversations again. But it looks absolutely terrible. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I thought Mike McDaniel was going to be a great addition for this team. I thought the defense was going to show up and be better with the players that they have out there. And they look bad, obviously, on the flip side of that. The Raiders. They look bad. They look bad. They look bad. The Chargers look good off to a 2-0 start over there in the AFC West. Yeah, congratulations to the Raiders. Love what they're doing and cooking. Love that Max Crosby gets, like, a send-home safety to win this entire thing. Kirk Cousins had some interesting decisions, but certainly had a bunch of tuds to Mr. White here, who does the sue celebration. That's his second touchdown of the day. We certainly knew he was going to do that. Two-plus tuds for Cody White Parlay yesterday probably would have paid you in a massive way. But congrats to the Raiders. And it stinks for the Chargers. They own the worst cover margin, minus 2-0. 39 of any team favored in each of their first two games since the 2003 Eagles. 23 years ago, a team was favored in the first two games and got their absolute asses kicked. The last time Jim Harbaugh was 0-2 was, like, 2002 or something. He was a backup quarterback for the Chargers. Or 2000-something. I forget the year. Yeah, the year 2000. Jim Harbaugh hasn't been a part of an 0-2 team since 2000 when he was the Chargers' backup quarterback. He usually won. We thought McDaniel was going to come bring the best out of Herbert. And now people are saying, Herbert, this guy's all about Miss Beers. This guy doesn't even want to play football anymore. I don't like that. I don't love that at all because we still have faith. But maybe there is a little bit of a learning curve in him playing free in this new system. I'm not giving up on the Chargers just yet. But there are certainly some dire reasons to talk about them being ass. And then let's talk about a team that looked like ass. I don't love that I have to do this because I was obviously born and raised. In the same place that this man was. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. I don't like to tell you this, obviously, just to start the show like this. But that Pittsburgh Steelers team, boy, they look like booty holes. I don't know if we were expecting them to be the best team in the history. But Aaron Rodgers got sawed in half at the age of 42. I mean, he said, I haven't taken a lot of those hits in my career, which is basically saying, yeah, normally you can get a sense or a feel for these types of things. But I guess with the way we're playing right now, yeah, I'm just going to get blindsided, sawed in half and sandwiched in the same play. And that wasn't the only time, obviously, he gets hit or the O-line, didn't give up. It seems like, and I might be wrong here, Aaron Rodgers isn't necessarily loving what's going on. DK Metcalf has a couple of drops. People are saying we're paying this guy $30 million. And Mike McCarthy, the yinzer, obviously has a start now where everybody's wondering, what the hell are they going to be able to do with this team? And Tone, have you given up completely? With the Pittsburgh Steelers, after what you saw yesterday against the New England Patriots? Are you understanding this is new coach, new era, new schemes, new everything. It might take a little bit to kind of build, or has the patience already worn thin and you're giving it up? What did you say? New coach, new era, new schemes. Same bullshit on offense every goddamn year. The defense is fine. They looked great against the Falcons and Cooper Rush. He may be the worst quarterback of all time, with all due respect to Mr. Rush, in that situation. They only gave up 13 points yesterday. They gave up the one big run to Trae. Trae Vion Henderson, that wasn't great. But other than that, the defense looked pretty good. The offense, though, I believe so far 59th and 61st ranked games out of 62. The offense has been on EPA per drive. Rodgers was pressured on 65% of his dropbacks yesterday. It's, oh my God, is it bad. I mean, the honeymoon phase is over, not just with the fans and everybody, but Rodgers is already throwing Big Mike under the bus, so we'll see how that goes already. We saw how that went in Green Bay. Communication. He was just saying, we've got to work together a little bit. I think he's just saying, I need to understand that Big Mike understands that I understand, you know, what's going on. Here's Aaron Rodgers after the game. In a game like today where there wasn't a lot of flow to it, we need to be better, and it starts with me, at, like, making sure Mike knows what's working, what's not working, our coaches know, and so we can call stuff that, you know, we feel like has a better chance. Hey, what did you hear? Did you hear something different than I did? I didn't hear anything. I mean, I heard, hey, communication is key in any relationship, right? Your husband and wife, whatever it may be, you've got to communicate, and Aaron and Big Mike have known each other for a long time, and I've got to tell Mike, hey, this is working, this ain't working. What are we going to do here? So they got divorced, they got back together, like, thinking, like, oh, this time's going to be great again, and it's already working. That works sometimes. Sometimes that works on people. It does. Sometimes you learn the second time around, they say. I've had the incredible opportunity to be around a couple on a vacation that was getting back together for the second time for the first or second week of that entire season. I was watching them remember in real time about all the terrible things that maybe their brains kind of erased. People are saying maybe that's happening with Aaron and Mike. I don't think that's the case. It's very early. It's very early in this, but signs are showing that this could potentially be the same old Steelers, which kind of leads to, you know, Mike Tallman kind of juicing up the boys over there in Cleveland. The Browns are going to Browns. He says absolutely not. Bulletin board material can obviously create a little bit of motivation. It can get you going a little bit. I don't think. I don't think the team up in New England needed a lot against Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's go to the talks table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, con man. First of all, congratulations to your New England Patriots. They look like they might be one of the best teams in the damn league. And then, Ty, let's start with you. Green Bay Packers. Wow. What a comeback win. A little cardiac Packers situation happening out there. You knew it all along, or did you give up? I see you're wearing the Packers hat. We're back on track, it appears. Yeah, I suppose you could say that. They're one and one. That's really the most important. Thing that team absolutely stinks, though, as of right now, as of right now. Now, again, it's early. Things can change. they were the first team since 1941 at least to win with less than 200 total yards have 100 plus penalty yards and have a negative uh turnover margin teams going into that spot were 0 and 44 and the packers did manage to find a win but boy it's just a tough watch they stink through and through defense looks okay but offense is piss poor they can't protect jordan love they have no run game so we'll see uh luckily they got by and the jets are much better i think than people give them credit for but in my head the jets are still the jets you're supposed to go into metlife you're supposed to beat the shit out of them but really all that matters is they're not one of these teams that's staring down oh and two on overreaction monday so for another week i'll i'll be okay with it and and we're looking ahead to thursday okay i'm happy you got a big time dub and good luck on thursday but this has been a pretty negative start let's go to you boston connor are you negative about the bet yeah right we got to feel very good about where we're sitting up in foxborough pal yeah absolutely we got the best defense in the freaking league and we hit the hardest out of any team in the league did you see a hit harder than this one right here from christian ellison rogers no you didn't that was kind of the highlight of the entire weekend when it comes to defensive football and playing hard uh yeah the offense is tough we're gonna have to figure that out but this is exactly how the season started last year it feels like everyone thinks drake may came out last year and was the mvp of the league from start to finish no it took him a couple weeks he's gonna get that together aj brown going out early doesn't help either but he's gonna come along the offense is gonna come along but they can win defensively and that's all that matters gabe jackass aka gabe akis which is how you actually pronounce it that was his first interception of his career and it was off aaron rogers yeah i feel fantastic new england football all the way back and now we go on to jacksonville and just just to clarify too drake may's healthy you know some quarterbacks like chicago they had their quarterback terrace achilles and so the fact that we still have a healthy team there that is inaccurate information they are actually uh sighing a deep sigh of relief after tests early test results confirmed says tom pelissero that hamstring uh did not have major injury to it oh they're not even rolling them out against the eagles so caleb williams i'll tell you we all thought it was over yeah i mean holy hell i was tweeting the d-butt i'm like hey this guy might be neo bro this guy might be the actual one instead hyper extension hamstring says you can't do that that's not how we're supposed to go everybody thought maybe the knee though went non-contact maybe achilles who knows what it could be gets carted out obviously has the towel on the head okay as he goes does the pump the fist pump if we could get to the ride out please if we can foxy if we could get to the ride out foxy this is the moment that i think everybody's worried about i think everybody i thought i killed there it is this is the part where all of us football fans worry we're super bummed out about what was about to happen caleb williams the future of the city in chicago with an incredible mustache has the towel over the head about to get escorted out and oh no it's tyson big bajan's team now ben johnson was expecting to have the highest scoring offense in the history of the nfl they go from 59 points to three points and oh yeah the next one neo and caleb's gone forever we were all in that moment that entire stadium was saying man we almost had it this year he's you we almost did he's back on monday this is paul pierce level of what are you doing pal now happy he's healthy but remember paul got wheeled out of a game allegedly only had to poop now i am a massive paul pierce fan i am a huge fan of paul pierce anything he says i normally hear and i laugh and i'm enjoyed by it and i enjoy the hell out of it but him getting rolled out of here and then obviously it being a poop and then him getting carted out towel over his head entire situation we thought it was over for paul and for caleb turns out he's going to be back next monday d but i heard you uh i heard you a lot of times say that caleb is your guy yeah caleb is your guy does this change anything here do we think maybe uh maybe maybe this isn't the greatest thing to happen for a starting quarterback in the nfl obviously hamstring injury we'd like him to be healthy as fast as possible this whole thing here though maybe is how do you read it oh you know what that's that's your guys's fault for jumping to conclusions oh i think he's gonna kill it i think it's a need watch the game all right this guy's tough and he's clearly smart he's playing chess right now all right you go down you lay there you don't move you think your recovery process right then and there you don't take another step you don't put another ounce of weight on this 700 million dollar hamstring so yeah i hope he's full go wednesday practice thursday friday and then shows his ass again on monday so no i don't think any yeah you know i do think differently about 18 he's tough i heard he called the boys up after got into him called him up walked out no boot no sling no hot pack no nothing i gotta be back man uh tough as nails smart all right exactly what you want for a quarterback now that brian flores defense they showed out they showed up it was an ugly weather game i thought they were gonna be able to pull it out they didn't but we're one and one and we go on like like i said we're not staring down oh and two it's not always me we're gonna battle back from this injury and right behind 18 i'm very happy for caleb being healthy and you know what i didn't even think of him starting his recovery right there on the cart smart right you know watch it watch it boom goes down don't move oh oh but he walked off then he didn't take put uh no don't come get me come get me pick me up walk me off he dragged he dragged the leg kind of walk me off what'd you think in this moment though d but yesterday what did you think right here i thought the season was over i was actually looking at the waiver wire for another 14 but um it was i'm sure it's something you can like a null like a marriage when you get in there and it's only a few days so i couldn't swap it out thought maybe this was a madden curse maybe this was my curse but you know getting this news from tom pelissero i'm glad he put this out there so i feel much much better going into next monday night because we hate primetime game no offense to tyler i hate primetime games back back also primetime games with atlanta falcons involved so um i feel much better going into this show today over reaction monday i happy caleb's okay let's get to our top five top five top five headlines coming out of nfl week two sunday slate this is driven by ram trucks you know ram trucks have the power you need to pull to make sure you enjoy your life and whenever you hit that gas pedal the only sound you hear is let's get to the top five shall we aj number five and it's been alluded to a couple times here about teams not having to stare down the oh and two record but how about the oh no into the record well you go all the way back since the afl nfl merger which is 1970 out of over 430 teams to start on two only 46 of them have made the post season you go through the modern era 2000 to 2025 out of 200 teams to start owing to only 24 qualified that's 12 not great you know that's a that's a lot higher number not making it than that is actually making and now that we have the expanded playoff error where more teams make the playoffs and there's one more game to get back on track 16 percent of teams go on to make the playoffs after starting oh and two so that leads me to ask this question to you mr aj hawk yeah are they oh and two because we find out that they're absolutely ass or are they oh and two because they just haven't figured out how they're supposed to be a team i guess that would be a question me and d butt were on a team in 2014 that started oh and two then we inevitably end up making it to the playoffs so it's certainly possible and 16 a lot more than zero percent so i'm not giving up hope on anybody but do we think teams are ass right now or do we think they just haven't figured it out i guess that's a situational conversation that needs to take place aj yeah it's definitely situational and also like who your opponent was but some teams take some time to get going they got they got to find like find their way and build who their identity might be and obviously injuries change change things as well with the falcons their quarterback situation the commanders now we see what happened with daniels the texans that one surprises me a bit like if i had to pick one or two teams from this list to actually make the playoffs i don't know what you guys would think but i i can't see the texans missing under the chargers i don't know what they are to be honest with you but i feel like the texans i feel i don't know actually i'm not sure i feel very confident any of these teams making it well we just took chiefs overtime last night in arrowhead right crazy talking about the indianapolis colts i do i do not like some of the decisions that are being made okay like it's over time and we're leaving time on the clock for a guy who's known to win games i mean that's they change rules right because of it i think because of what he's able to do especially at home on prime time so i hate that we won for the tie there but i think the colts last night showed me that maybe they're on the road to figuring it out and not being completely ass and being a part of the bigger statistic of not making the playoffs okay i enjoyed watching the colts last night i enjoyed watching jonathan taylor ball out daniel jones tyler warren josh dons alec pierce now maybe he came back a little bit too early on that heel and maybe he isn't just a bad walker maybe that thing wasn't a hundred percent yet and he was pushing it a little bit early but from the quotes that i saw last night i was actually rather impressed from how ass they looked against the ravens we'll get into that in a second with what they did week two after looking like the world beaters of week one and then the chiefs you have to have a conversation with them but d but i i think some of these oh and two teams a little bit different than the others but there are certainly some teams that i think we can go ahead and notch and say that team ain't west this year like the falcons and the dolphins i think Yeah, coming into this season, like you guys said, Falcons, Dolphins, Titans, I think all three of those teams, we expected some struggle. We expected probably somewhat of a rebuild year. Washington, we thought Jay would be back, him getting injured, that sucks. Baker, he made all that fuss about getting his money. They come out 0-2, absolutely stink. Very surprised about the Texans, but back to the Colts. Like when you go, like you said, you are encouraged. You go to the Chiefs' house and you push them all the way to the wire, which I feel like we play the Chiefs tough year in and year out. But to get to that point in overtime where you get that chunk play from Treadwell and then you basically say, you know what, we're going to take the field goal and give it back to 15. I don't understand that. I know Shane talked about it after the game. And, yeah, it is a tough-ass league, a hard-ass league, whatever Shane said. But when you have an opportunity to go for the juggler, to end the game, to win it in overtime, you made the choice to kick it, which I like that decision. You get the ball back, get down there, and then you just take the foot off the gas and take a field goal. Like I didn't understand that you have to take this opportunity, empty the clip at this point, and try to get this one win to go 1-1 instead of being 0-2. But, yeah, the season's not over. It's not done. Like you said, in 14, we did it. You got hot. We, for whatever reason, started slow. I feel like every season. But you got to get hot. You got to build some confidence within your locker room, within that team, and obviously within the quarterback. But we did look good on offense. Defensively, historically bad start for us. Can we figure it out on the next hour? How historic? Historic, I think, all the time. Yes, the worst. As far as like points, yards, what, everything? All of it. Yep. All of it. All the important things. Yikes. Slow. Everything. Yep. The Colts defense now holds the NFL record for most yards allowed in the first two games of a season with a jaw-dropping 1,029 yards. The 1976 Seahawks. And they could barely run. You remember that team. Oh, yeah. They previously held the record at 800. We blew the brakes on them. Oh, yeah. 884. Jeez. Look, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. True. Let's have a little bit of respect. There we go. Okay. With who we had to face. Hopefully, they'll be able to sort it out going forward. But it's not just the Colts. Obviously, Texans. You talked about it down there in the AFC South. AJ thinks that they'll figure it out. We hope that'll happen. We don't know, though, with them, honestly. The defense seemingly good enough to go and win. CJ Stroud seemingly a good enough quarterback to win. Will they? I don't know. Chargers, what a head-scratcher, isn't it? Yeah. That's a big old head-scratcher. Dauber's still down. So down. Forever. I would say that Dauber's downer than it's ever been. Yep. You know, I'd say that Dauber's downer than it's ever been, especially with Harbaugh. And then the Bucs, Falcons, Dolphins, and Titans kind of round out the rest of the 0-2 teams. It's like Falcons, they're historically ass, I think. Pat, do you know the Bucs haven't covered in 11 straight games, and they're on a 3-10 run just overall, the Bucs? They were overlooking how bad they've been recently as well. Yeah, and they paid a lot of people down there. And I don't want to point that out, but they did pay a lot of people down there. And just obviously not great. It's not great when you lose to the Cleveland Browns. Anytime that happens, your fans are going to turn on you whenever that team comes to town and beat you, especially if they're waiting out at 2-1. Now let's go to the opposite side of the corn here for number five headline. Two in, oh yeah, teams, okay, like the lads here, who've obviously started incredibly hot. Good for them, Philadelphia Eagles. A lot of people don on the Philadelphia Eagles because of what they and how they had to do it against the Titans. I think you jot that one down as we went in there. Oh, yeah. Afternoon game, brought our own juice. We win. Against bad team, let's move on. That just feels like what the Eagles have been. You know, it's just like the Chiefs with the stat that's come out about them, you know, being able to obviously hit for you if you're on the money line. But very rarely do the Chiefs ever cover because in your brain they're a lot better than they actually end up killing teams. It feels like the Eagles are the same. They'll see them in close games. They'll end up winning it. It feels like they have that winning trait, that winning mantra. And I think they're just pumped to get out of Nashville with a dub. Let's get back home and continue to the role. But some of these teams, Con Man, and you pointed this out in the 2-0-Yeah graphic, Bengals, Raiders, Eagles, they've all beat teams that are 0-2. So, like, what wins are real? What wins are not real? I still feel like we don't know. But stats tell us that the 2-0-Yeah squads 75% of the time end up making the playoffs. That's a much better situation than losing either of these first two. Con Man, it's a wild thing that, you know, some of these 2-0 teams we feel really good about. Then you dive into it. It's a wild thing. It's like, schedule merchants, potentially. You heard it all last year, Con Man. Yeah, no doubt about it. But you still got to win them. You know, I think no matter what, if you're 2-0 and you're bitching and moaning, then you're just not really kind of encapsulating the whole season. Like, the Eagles haven't looked good, sure. But those two wins early on might get them to 12-13 when they end up figuring it out. The biggest one from here is the Bengals for me. You know, the Bengals, we've talked about historically bad starters. But now they're winning games with their defense. And Stroud's still through for 350 yards, sure. But if they become a defense that's bad, and Ben don't break, and they're forcing field goals, and they're getting stops in the red zone, like, they're going to win a bunch of games. Especially because Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, like, what they are still doing on offense, we kind of expect. But the fact that they're holding teams to, you know, points in the red zone that aren't touchdowns, that is massive. They gave up the Houston Texans, you know, they scored 31 points last week. It's not like their offense is. What was that? Yeah, what was that? What did Jamar Chase, was that a hammer? Did he, like, throw a hammer? I thought he was, like, flopping dice. Like, he was, like, it's kind of like a dice roll, but more forward. An absolutely phenomenal catch. The body control. What's that one right there? That's like a. Is that an elephant trunk, maybe? Could be. Like, I remember everything. It's pretty cool. All the little kids are going to be doing it now. It's pretty cool. Yeah, is that a one, like a first down touchdown? Yeah, is he saying this, like, my bottom half from my elbow down stronger than anybody? Did you see that catch? Was he saying it's really big? Was he saying it from his. Big, heavy, big old heavy flopper, yeah. He's saying his forearm is super heavy. I'm able to make these types of catches. And then I think he went right into the gritty, which I respect and appreciate. But, yeah, I agree with what you're saying there, Con Man. And to reiterate your point on the defensive side, pro football focus, who it is what it is, they got Sexy Dexy as the highest rated interior lineman in the entire NFL. Remember, New York Giants move on from Sexy Dexy in this new Harbaugh era. Send him. Send him to Cincinnati. And as soon as he gets there, he's allegedly a leader in the locker room. And now, immediately, the defense is much better than they were last year, especially at the line of scrimmage. It's like, it's crazy how one big influential piece can change an entire tone and a culture of a defense, AJ, especially Dexter Lawrence. Well, I think, especially as a defense and a team that has been getting killed, we know how they've had slow starts in the past, and their defense hasn't really held up. When you can start out 2-0 and your defense is a big reason of why you're winning, that's contagious. There's a trickle down through the whole team, and I think it only breeds more and more confidence amongst that defense, and the coordinator feels more comfortable coming out for the quarterback. Like, there's something about it. When your defense is playing hot, especially early in the year, you know the offense you have with Joe Burrow. If they stay healthy, like, the sky's the limit. D-Butt, with Big Dexy coming to town, what's that mean for the back end? I mean, that helps you. Obviously, we can get interior pressure against quarterback Sexy Dexy, and then Jonathan Allen as well, who was showing up in between the lines and also in that locker room. You know, like A.J. said, when you have that toughness up front, it does breed confidence in that entire team. Because the offense, they're going to show up. T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, those guys are going to show up week in and week out. So, as long as that defense can be at least manageable, and then if they can go out and actually start pitching shutouts or getting close to that, it's only going to get better for the Bengals. And that's a team who, historically, it feels like always starts 0-2 or 1-3 to get out of the gates and then kind of pick up as they get later on in the season. But, so, them starting fast out of the gate is huge and obviously the defense being a big part of it. Because they hear it. Everybody hears it. Everybody in these buildings hear everything that we and other people on microphones say about them year in and year out, week in and week out. So, for them to show up early, this is big. Hey, not just big for the Bengals and obviously Raiders. Congratulations to the Raiders getting two wins with Kirk Cousins. I love that. I absolutely love what they're doing. The Eagles, obviously, we talked about them. Buffalo Bills have an alien. So do the Kansas City Chiefs. Let's talk about the alien that we love, the Carson Williams. Wentz experience, 2-0 for the Vikings, winning 9-3. Now, Flores' defense, is it Flores? Because Tomlin, who hired him and had him on staff, said Flores last night. I think I've heard it multiple times as Flores, but I've always said Flores. I think B-Flow is an easier way to get us out of here. But whatever the case, B-Flow holds Ben Johnson's offense to three points. Now, in the middle of a downpour, who cares? Still shuts them out, basically, if it wasn't for great field goal by Cairo. And then on the offensive side, Carson Wentz leads them to another dub without turning the ball over too much, without too much Carson Wentz stuff. In the middle of a downpour, at one point, I saw him throw a ball directly into the chest of a Chicago Bears D.V. On the next play, pump fake jump, spin move, bang. Out the other side. It was like the Carson Wentz experience was certainly happening. But them being undefeated in that NFC North with Carson Wentz as their starting quarterback, who knows what the future looks like. Ty, you just went on a whole tangent about the past. Are the Vikings the team to be scared of in the NFC North right now? As of right now, yes. That was actually the first thing I said this morning when I came. And I said, wow, did I wildly underestimate the Vikings defense, especially. I mean, you know, you hear all about Brian Flores. But until you actually watch it and see it firsthand two weeks in a row, they looked very impressive. And I think this was the, you know, the way the weather was in Chicago, everything we had heard about the Bears, this was like the picture-esque, like, hey, Carson Wentz. is going to go out there and he's going to have five turnovers. He's going to throw three interceptions. He's going to fumble it a bunch, and he did exactly what he needed to do. That stat came up about Kevin O'Connell with his record with all the different quarterbacks that he's won with, and I think that was the big thing going in this year. Everyone was saying, hey, pressure's going to be on Kevin O'Connell with how Sam Darnold's doing, and he just, you know, being married up with that Brian Flores defense and his offense, like, he just wins, and, you know, for them to not even have their starting quarterback, who everyone was excited about, and for them to be 2-0 and have two division wins nonetheless, like, yeah, if you're in the NFC North, I think as of right now, it does run through Minnesota. Seahawks absolutely panned, absolutely panned out there in the NFC West, and then the 49ers as well. I'll tell you, the teams that we thought were potentially very good certainly still proving to be. Baltimore Ravens let me down. I'm going to be honest. Baltimore Ravens let me down big time after what we saw them do the Indianapolis Colts week one. I guess they're still learning. What was the deal with not giving the ball? They didn't give the ball to Derrick Henry in the second half. Man, who knows? That's what they do. That's what they do. This is multiple coaching staffs now, though. I don't know how that carries over. Like, how does Minter not? I mean, he has to, and Minter's on the defensive side, so he's probably saying, hey, Declan, you kind of handle your thing. You do what you got to do. But, like, the stats, whenever you don't give Derrick Henry the ball in the second half in what happens versus the stats when you give him the ball in the second half in what happens, it's just, like, it's alarming that they continue to do it. I don't get it. I don't. I genuinely don't. Dude. Yep. Yeah, well, Chuck Pagano and all the older head coaches, ex-old coaches and coordinators, certainly are eagerly watching these young coordinators, both on the offensive side and defensive side, as this 2026 season continues to roll on. 49ers looked unbelievable. Okay, let's go to number four headline as we're 31 minutes into the show doing a top five, and we just got through number five. This is always the issue. Remember, we're going to put time. Yeah, first 15. Number four headline, the dogs have a day. We talked about the Browns. Congrats to Deshaun Watson and Todd Munkin getting their first win together and Deshaun's first win in, like, 100 years. Moneyline, plus 350. You could have got them before the game. Then the Saints, Tyler Shuck. The only reason why they didn't tie the week before and they have a loss on their schedule is because they chose to go for two in overtime as opposed to hitting an extra point to tie the game and have everybody in football hate it. So, Kelly Moe, Tyler Shuck, not only Leighton games have been magical, but together I think they're magical. They just paid Chris Olave. This past offseason, people are like, wow, that's a lot of money for Chris Olave. Well, turns out Chris Olave and Tyler Shuck are the number one tandem in the NFL right now, and Tyler Shuck, what he's doing late and what he's doing in these games to keep them in it at such a young age, well, he's actually very old, young in his NFL career, though, special stuff for Kellen Moore. For a lot of years, the Saints were expected just to be assed because their salary cap hell and the way everything was kind of set up, and they've been going through a transition era seemingly for five, six years, and now it feels like they got their pillars. They got their staples, and they got their quarterback debutt. This Tyler Shuck guy can shuck the shucking ball. I mean, it's special to watch him out of Louisville and how everybody kind of passed him up. I think they got him in, what, the third round, and they were expecting him to be a starter somehow, and he's lived up to every expectation, and Kelly Moe has a good team early. Yeah, I think they got him in the second round. He came on late last year. He showed and played some good ball, and we all know running out of that tunnel, like if you don't have confidence in your quarterback as a football team organization, as a fan, you don't really have a chance, so breeding that confidence, building this confidence very early with Tyler Shuck. Absolutely love what Kelly Moe's doing as well. You come in, you draft Jordan Tyson. The hopes are high with him coming out. He gets hurt. You pay Chris Olave. He's been showing up. I love everything about this Saints team, what they show early on, and you talk about these big-time plays down the stretch. He's throwing me off back here, but yeah, Shuck is showing out, man. I'm excited about these Saints. Like you said, it could be 2-0. Going for two, and then the bullshit. Call with Garrett Goff with the intention and all that. That played a huge role, so that Saints fan base, they are hot right now. As they should be, and we know that's home field advantage down there in New Orleans if they were to get going, and then the Raiders, congratulations to them, 2-0. I think that's a dream start for them with Kirk Cousins, and obviously their number one overall pick sitting in tow, kind of waiting for his time. Kirk Cousins, obviously great. Jenty, what a stud. Crosby getting a safety, just so genius. Incredible. Remember, he wasn't supposed to be in there. He wasn't supposed to be on this team. Nope. So Crosby, he was supposed to be on the Baltimore Ravens. Instead, Ravens say, no, we don't want to do this. Max Crosby comes back, puts out a song called Raider Way, feels like the football gods blessed him, and then obviously he's still exactly who everybody says he is, and he knew exactly what he was doing here. If I get on the outside of this guy, I get a hold in the end zone. This is safety. High football IQ, great for him. Let's go to the number three headline, and this one's a little bit disappointing, I'm going to be honest. I don't like that this is happening, but we have an infestation. I don't like the infestation of the injury. Somebody needs to go call the road router, whatever, the pest control. Orchid. There it is. There it is. Orchid. Yeah, get the orchid out and spray these things. The injury bug is going crazy. Everybody's been bitten by this thing seemingly. Now, granted, we know Caleb Williams is in a much better position now than we thought whenever he was getting carted out with a towel over his head as he was fist bumping a crowd that was seemingly celebrating him having to go through some season-ending type injury. Happy. Happy. Happy. Okay. Happy he rallied. Jaden Daniels injury, same elbow. That was disgusting. They said they got some good news out of that. I don't know how that's even possible. And I'm sick of my algo feeding me his elbow. Okay? Get it out of my face. I don't like any of that. But you're talking about a lot of stars here that have been injured early. D-Butt, what are your thoughts on the injuries? Do we think this is just how football always is and we forget about it until it happens in real time? But two big quarterbacks going down week two. Sam Darnold going down week one, literally in the opening game. It feels like we do have a bit of injury. It feels like we have an injury bug infestation here early. Yeah, we always hate it. And a lot of people try to, I guess, attribute it to different things. Not playing in the preseason, the short and off season. But it's football. And guys are going to get hurt. And when big name guys get hurt, it makes bigger news. Obviously, when it has starting quarterbacks. Remember that year, I think two or three years ago, you had 60 or 70 quarterbacks getting out there starting, especially on the prime time game. So, it's just a part of the game. Unfortunately, you want to see the best players out there playing that best ball when it matters the most. But it's a 100% injury rate. Everybody that's out there playing is going to get hurt. And once we get towards the middle and the end of the season, everybody's dealing with issues. It's just part of the violent nature of the game that we play. And it sucks, man. But getting some good news, obviously, from Caleb. I wonder what the good news is with Jaden. I think it was not being a fracture and it just being a dislocation. But with that elbow, I think it's the third time now he's injured that elbow. But yeah, week in and week out, you're going to see these injuries. And when they're bigger names, obviously, it's going to be bigger news. Ladies and gentlemen, huge news. There's a playmaker here. What? The playmaker. Oh, my God. How are you, dude? So good to see you, bro. Yes, you too. Here, will you put this on? Hey, great to see you. I was like, wait a minute. Stop playing, man. They told me you called over. And he said, I had to go. I said, no, no, no. I'm running right over here. Come on. Making sure. Pat, you know, you my brother. We just got different mothers. But we the same other brother. You see what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I would say the same. I would have to appreciate that. That's an honor to be put in the same category as you. We're going through our top five headlines from yesterday. Number three headline is the injury bug infestation. We saw Sam Donald go down week one. Now, obviously, Caleb, hamstring. Right. Okay. Great news that it's a hamstring. Man, that was. Right. It didn't look like a hamstring there for a little bit with the way he was acting. Happy he got carted off and started his recovery of his hamstring early. Yeah. Jayden Daniels goes down. Your thoughts on the injuries. It feels like it's every year. Is that how we should just view it? Or why do you think it kind of did? But, Pat, you know, man, I have said this so many times. Like, I don't understand how you can ramp up without ramping up. Like, how do you step in the game one and you haven't had any game practice? So, you know, and let me tell you. Let me tell you what happened, guys. When you say to someone, you're not playing in any preseason games. You don't just lose. You don't just lose that game day. You lose the whole week. Because I'm not going to focus like I need to if I know I'm not playing in a game. It's impossible to do it. Don't tell me I can focus hard. I can still put the work in. It's impossible. Unless I got the fear of somebody else making me look real bad in front of a whole lot of people, I ain't going to search all up and down and everywhere to play my best. And that's what's happening. It's not just. It's a game you don't play. You lose the whole week of practice. Okay, so you think the modern setup is kind of a detriment to the safety and health of the players? Absolutely. Okay, all right. You're playing in all these controlled practices and then all of a sudden you got to go get comfortable in the midst of chaos and you have not been in chaos. Yes, I think it's a detriment. Yeah, you got to at least visit chaos a couple times before you get thrown in. Make him your buddy. Yeah. Make him your buddy. Chaos or pressure, you got to have. They all got to be your best friend. Physicality. You got to be warning them right. Oh, yeah. Defense is week one. More points than ever. And Jim would always say this. We're going to get you in a game and somebody is going to have a little thumbnail and be talking about, ouch, I'm hurting because you haven't been hit all season. That's what I think. That's so funny because I heard Coach Harbaugh over with the Chargers say, I wish we would have played in some preseason games because you're an old school coach. They let them bring you new school and you see. This new school Ain't working That other hardball That old school coach beat down on my Cowboys because they were practicing hard yes they were they went to West Virginia in the middle of nowhere to go beat the shit out of each other during training camp I mean that you're talking two different trains I thought okay let's go to the number two headline shall we hot out the gate for the MVP conversation now we do believe that teams can start out terrible and get good but for the MVP with the stats you're going to need I think you can't waste the first two weeks here are some guys we think are hot out the gate obviously Josh Allen absurd Brock Purdy has been cerebral obviously you look down Bryce Young getting an opportunity for what he did yesterday against the Falcons and how he started Dak Prescott becomes the all-time leader in pass yards for the Dallas Cowboys what an insane thing and then Joey Burrow and the offense has been going crazy any of these guys you see that you like obviously Dak Prescott huge for the Cowboys yeah and I love that you put him in here I don't have to talk him up in here that means you ain't like everybody else with this built-in hate for Dak the man you and he's playing some great football but now out of that group there are two people I want to pull out and and look at first Bryce Young man and I had Bryce Young on one of my other shows I love White House man the White House hey great show hey I appreciate you saying that bro I appreciate and I got it when you get out there we're going to sit down and chop it up over there but I love this dude you're here you're in LA but you here to work right now you're in work where you get some time yeah we gonna do it but man I'm telling you and I didn't know him and McMillan had known each other for so long and wanting to play together for so long and now they are together I really like Bryce Young but you got to give all of this to Josh Allen right now Josh Allen I'd measure men in distance travel don't tell me about where you are tell me about where you started let me see where you are so measure you accordingly from seeing Josh Allen crying tears of pain to watching his great game and what he's doing right now yeah I'm gonna put it on Josh Allen you're the greatest yeah it's all where you were to where you are that is how I can tell you right you gotta measure mental distance travel absolutely you know what I mean so so even if your dad gave you a billion dollars and you turned it to a hundred billion you's a bad brother you understand what I'm saying now if he gave you a billion and you got a billion one so what distance did you travel before I give you any flowers okay I love we should give you all the flowers anytime you're on a microphone I hope you continue to feel that back in the studio D-Butt your thoughts on the hot out the gay horses and also Playmaker being right here I think we could probably ask him anything that we need to do right now absolute legend love the graphic with the hot out the gate uh guys but uh it's a guy missing I think two guys miss missing actually Drew Locke backup quarterback and I think it's a guy missing I think it's a guy missing actually Drew Locke backup quarterback out of Seattle 2-0 right now then the receiver that he's throwing to reigning offensive player of the year Playmaker what makes Jackson Smith and Jigaba so special out there wide receiver dude this this this guy's ability to change direction is incredible and it's so funny I watched him work out with Malachi Toney and they were working on these new slant routes I mean I watched Malachi Toney put that into play in a game where he was like I'm not gonna in a game and he this dude here is phenomenal man JSN has been phenomenal move him all over the football field anywhere he catch the ball quick and take it the distance he can run right by you so he's been a phenomenal player don't matter about the quarterback the results will be the same hey I have a question for you now because they showed on Hard Knocks his routes you know how they all look the exact same whenever you were running routes I feel like that is a new school type of thing working on the routes all look the same hey I have a question for you now because they showed on Hard Knocks his routes all look the same shoulder staying at the same elevation altitude everything yada yada was that were you guys working on were you guys working on were you guys working on all that how do you think the position has all that how do you think the position has all that how do you think the position has changed over the years it's it's it's changed over the years it's it's it's changed over the years it's it's it's changed so much and that's such a great changed so much and that's such a great changed so much and that's such a great question because we've gone from man question because we've gone from man question because we've gone from man beating man to systems beating systems beating man to systems beating systems jsn is moved all around on the football jsn is moved all around on the football jsn is moved all around on the football field but he'll go inside he'll sit field but he'll go inside he'll sit field but he'll go inside he'll sit between two linebackers he'll play all between two linebackers he'll play all between two linebackers he'll play all of that inside I personally just wanted of that inside I personally just wanted of that inside I personally just wanted to play outside and beat up a corner you to play outside and beat up a corner you to play outside and beat up a corner you know bring your butt out here bro let me know bring your butt out here bro let me know bring your butt out here bro let me tell your butt up you see what I'm saying tell your butt up you see what I'm saying tell your butt up you see what I'm saying I didn't want to be inside with all I didn't want to be inside with all I didn't want to be inside with all those big linebackers at all letters those big linebackers at all letters those big linebackers at all letters roaming get me one dude out here that's roaming get me one dude out here that's roaming get me one dude out here that's about my size that I could put it on about my size that I could put it on about my size that I could put it on jsn those guys the malik they're better jsn those guys the malik they're better jsn those guys the malik they're better than me because they can play inside and than me because they can play inside and than me because they can play inside and when you play inside it's not just when you play inside it's not just about knowing how to get open it's best you know when to be open because the quarterback's reading here and here and then he's coming to you late you got to know when to get open not just how to get open and he's great at it yeah when not only just you're going to get to him late but also early you got to get open earlier if you're the number one read on that system because if not they're looking to get past you immediately quarterbacks obviously have to read some things but the systems that you're talking about it does feel like they figure it out a little bit you know right hey you're going here we're going here a lot of the old quarterbacks say it's simpler football but then you talk to these younger guys it's like yeah right they're making like a thousand more decisions in real time in real time and it is because it requires more shoulders up than shoulders down it's more of a decision as opposed to my physical skill set making a play you know and that's why the brock purdy's i gotta get brock credit because they want to try to say oh he's just a system quarterback brock has taken a hell of a step up and is playing great football yeah brock purdy is cerebral right now the 49ers might be the best looking team in ball congrats to george kittle by the way yeah yeah he looks better than ever and then number one headline coming out of the weekend uh the chiefs is still the chiefs okay they're two and oh now what they did to the denver broncos week one was outrageous and then last night a dog fight with the indianapolis colts travis kelsey looks younger than ever he becomes the all-time leader in yak in the history of the nfl and he leads the current nfl in yak at the age of 36 or whatever he's a massive piece kenneth walker feels like a weapon that uh andy reed and eric the enemy and patrick mahomes have been looking for maybe for their entire tenure and then patrick mahomes looks like he's back to being exactly who he thought he was yeah kenny walker i was like he looks way better he ever looked at seattle right now i mean this dude looks phenomenal dude i mean i was like wow to see to get they're getting the same results and patrick mahomes has never ever had this you know they spent years trying to replace tyreek hill this this is how you replace tyreek hill you make everybody come up in this line of scrimmage and then you can make all the plays you need to make that dude right there is the difference maker right now aj they had 24 seconds with three time outs and patrick mahomes turned around and handed that ball off that shocked me last night yeah and did it shock you too that we decided to kick a field goal to tie that thing with patrick mahomes on the other sideline in arrowhead with three minutes to win that thing is that kind of what he does towards the end where it's like 39 right you say you should have taken that third do anything just don't give that ball back exactly like he's going to get the ball back i think we all knew what was going to happen immediately yeah they thought about it they thought about it but yeah you just think we don't want to believe that patrick mahomes is still patrick my home a lot of us have tried to put dirt on them and cover them up and see oh you said he's dead yeah yeah well i've never said that and let me tell you something and travis kelsey boy i know trust me what some good sleep and some good structure can do for you you know what i'm saying i know bro i'm trying to tell you travis kelsey has been sleeping he's been eating right he's structured and he looks younger this year than he ever looked the last two years at least right now after he's got married so taylor swift you're doing a good thing girl great thing for bald people are saying maybe he was in wedding shape you know maybe he came in the season wedding shape whatever the case maybe he's just in like uh hey i'm having the time of my life right now i was up in that suite uh that they all watch the game from the kids everybody in there is following every single snap they love ball everybody's so supportive it's like travis is living a dream right now i think and he's playing like it as well and i love travels bro that's one of my favorite dudes in the whole national football league you know i always love him i i got to know him when he first came over to pro bowl i coached him he was like michael you got to draft me you got to draft me and i did draft him right and he spent all week with my son michael who's a tight end and for me that was everything he was always not for he's been my favorite player in the nfl since then he's just a great dude so i'm happy good idea to get travis kelsey instruction out there for your kid yeah yeah yeah i'll draft travis yeah yeah right right but but he gravitated he said i got you i got him i said okay i'm gonna get you some passes in the game i was undefeated over there coaching so you know don't get it twisted hey you're working deals that's not a bad idea you got to get these guys to try somehow in the pro bowl yeah you look good bro come on don't keep putting that thing in boy don't let them know live on my model my model is i'm gonna get all of my time and every damn dime out of this body you understand what i'm saying thank you all of my time you're the absolute best and every damn dime we appreciate what i'm saying ladies and gentlemen i appreciate it brother the legend icon the playmaker michael irving yeah michael it's brower's fun it's you guys the best it's brower's fun okay i had no idea that was happening that's awesome as soon as he walks up you just kind of feel it now on that note there's a man that's been waiting because that all happened joining us now man is probably very okay with everything that just took place especially with how much information he's probably trying to learn in this exact moment. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter. Adam, what's going on? Schefter, very, very sorry that you had to wait there, but obviously that is – let me go ahead and get me in here. And we're here. Natasha. Giants, Rams, big one Monday night football. Can't wait to talk to you about that. Is Aaron Donald officially playing? But let's go back through the weekend. A lot of injuries this weekend. You know, follows up an injury-riddled week one as well. Any updates on any of the players that you see from the week two injury report? Caleb Williams, we've heard through Tom Pelissero, is that they are – it's not as bad as they thought. Maybe he plays on Monday. Jaden Daniels, they said the same thing. Any more updates on these guys that you have, Schefter? Ben Johnson said Caleb Williams is likely going to miss time, so we'll see how that works out here. That's the first one on Caleb Williams. Now, last. Last night, he felt pretty good. This morning, he was in a lot more pain than he was last night. So, we'll see how the hamstring evolves over time here. But, again, it doesn't sound like Ben Johnson is counting on him for next Monday night's game unless he can somehow make it back in time. Jaden Daniels, they're still going over the medical opinions on this. There are going to be a lot of different schools of thought. But it is a – Dislocated left elbow. It sounds like a similar timeline to last year. But, again, they're going through this right now with all the medical professionals and still gathering together opinions. I don't think he wants to do any surgery on the elbow that would stabilize it. But I'm not telling you that that's off the table either because who knows what a doctor is going to say or who knows what somebody around him is going to say. They're still in the gathering stages right now. It certainly sounds like it's going to be a few weeks. But, again, still gathering information. He also, like Caleb Williams, had the MRI done this morning. Team going through it. Both teams going through it. And we'll see where it nets out. Okay, let's turn to tonight, Monday Night Football. Giants traveling here to SoFi Stadium. It's beautiful. I can't thank the people enough for the setup that they've given us here. An incredible view. Let's talk about tonight, though. Aaron Donald, is he officially playing? Because he said the plan is to play. They said they haven't made a decision. I don't think I've seen an official ruling on Aaron Donald. He's certainly the story of the evening if he was to be returning after a two-year retirement hiatus. And what does he look and how bad do the Rams need him seemingly in a big way? Where do we sit on that? Well, I think he's going to play. That's the plan. I think that'll be part of the story. Part of the story will be Myles Garrett not playing. And part of the story will be Puka Nakua's status and it certainly sounds like Puka's trending towards not playing tonight against the Giants. So we'll see how it goes. Now, they're not giving up hope that he can go out and pregame warm-ups, feel good, lights are on, and all of a sudden he decides to play. But it doesn't sound promising right now that Puka's going to be available for the Rams, which would be obviously a huge deal. Jordan Whittington, another wide receiver, is doubtful. So you don't expect him to play. So they could be down Puka Nakua and Jordan Whittington going into tonight's game in a game. It's a game where Myles Garrett's on IR, but the plan is to have Aaron Donald come back. Now, not having Puka, I mean, that would leave the Rams with a crew of wide receivers that would be different than what we would have thought they would have had. So we'll see if they can overcome that tonight against a tough Giants team. Okay. Tough Giants team. Obviously, I think what people would say is their weakness is maybe their secondary or back end. Without Puka Nakua, obviously the Rams offense looks a bit different. And Diggs has a question for you about maybe the future primetime games that are ahead. Yes, Shefty. Obviously, it has been good for the Falcons so far with Cooper Rush as their starting quarterback and their next three games are on primetime. As primetime watchers, are we going to have to keep seeing Cooper Rush or are we going to see Penix or Tua in these next few weeks? I think that they're going to try to get Penix back on the field here Thursday night at Green Bay. They have the short week. They have yet to run a play in the red zone so far this season, the Falcons. They have not gotten to the red zone so far, which is pretty. They play the Packers this week and then they have an extra day the following week to play at New Orleans before that Sunday night football game against the Ravens. So three primetime games here coming up. The feeling has been that they would get have a chance to get back Penix and Tua on Thursday night. And I think with the way that the game unfolded yesterday, I would expect that at least one of those guys will be back on Thursday night. And I think that they would hope that Penix makes it back to start against the Green Bay Packers. I mean, there's. They're calling them both cheeks down there. The Atlanta Falcons Twitter has been phenomenal. I would say absolutely phenomenal. This is a tough hole for Stefanski to kind of build him or dig himself out of here. Matt Ryan is president. Stefanski gets hired almost immediately after being let go from the Browns. They said, well, the Browns are the problem. Browns are the problem. They have two quarterbacks. They have no quarterbacks. They have three quarterbacks. Now they had four quarterbacks. Jack String comes in, throws ball off the middle of a guy's chest. It gets picked off on his first passing attempt. I don't think that's fair. Then he had a ball slip out of his hand. I don't think that's fair either. I mean, I don't think Jack Strand necessarily deserved to come in down 30 to start this entire thing. But this has been very bad to start a new era in Atlanta. Obviously going to have to dig from the bottom up. Now, there's certainly a question about a team out here in Los Angeles, though. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, obviously it's early. But what's the cause of concern for the Chargers? Just things do not look good. I think we saw the last time Jim Harbaugh has started 0-2 was in 2002. When he was a backup quarterback and everything kind of just stinks out there right now. What do you know about that entire situation, especially because their next seven to eight games are insanely tough? Yeah, it's a gauntlet when you look at their schedule ahead. And those were supposed to be the easy, winnable games early on, opening up at Arizona or against Arizona at home, then playing the Raiders at home. Now you take a look at the schedule. Next seven games at Buffalo, at Seattle, home for Denver, at Kansas City. At the Rams, versus the Texans and at the Rams. I mean, that is a brutal schedule. And when you go into that 0-2, that's even more challenging. But, you know, Jim Harbaugh, after the game, said like he felt like the team was going in the right direction now that he saw some things he was encouraged by. So, I mean, I guess that's good. But you can't look at this team that lost both its coordinators. They made a change on the offensive side, brought in Mike McDaniel. They lost Jesse Minter. On the defensive side. And it's just not clicking. They've been out physical. They've been outplayed. They've been, it's been one of the early season surprises so far that the Cardinals and Raiders will go in and have their way with the Chargers, who now sit with an 0-2 record with that gauntlet of a schedule ahead here in the coming weeks. Okay, and on the other side, the Raiders are 2-0. Connor has a question about them. Yeah, Shefty, Raiders are absolutely rolling right now. Is there a chance Kirk just rides this entire season? If they continue to win and Mendoza just gets an entire year to watch Kirk Cousins? And also, is there a Brock Bowers update? Because seemingly kind of thought he was going to play, then he didn't. Is he definitely going to be back next week? Well, in regards to Bowers, Clint Kubiak said after the game yesterday that he was really close. Thought he had a chance this past week. And I would be surprised if Bowers weren't back on the field this week for the Raiders. Kirk Cousins, look, the plan with them always, always has been to have him out there as long as possible. As long as he's playing well and they're winning games. Well, he's playing well. He's playing exceptionally well right now. And they're winning games. So as long as those two factors keep happening, he's going to keep playing quarterback. And if it goes on all season long, the Raiders will be thrilled because they get the wins in the standings. And they get the win of sitting Mendoza and not having to rush him along and to take their time with him. And every win they get buys them more time to have Fernando on the bench right now shooting whatever commercials it is that he's doing. These days. And they love the way they love the way Cousins is playing. And the fact that they're winning games right now, this is working out as well as they could have hoped so far. Yeah, I'd say, yeah, anytime you have a quarterback conversation to start the season undefeated is certainly a great one. Let's go away from the Raiders and let's go over to the NFC North. AJ has a question about the undefeated Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, Shefty, obviously the Vikings 2-0, Kyler Murray in concussion protocol, I assume still. Any updates on him and when he might be back on the field? I think they expect that he's in a clear protocol this week if there are no setbacks and that he would be able to be back on the field next week. Now, again, they're 2-0 as well and they're playing pretty well. But again, I think the feeling would be to go back to Kyler at some point in time here. And it sounds like that could happen as soon as this week. OK, so Kyler's going to go back out even though Carson Wentz is undefeated. That's like taking points off the board. Is that what you're saying, Shefty? I think that, well, they want to get a look. They want to get a look at Kyler and Carson's played well and Carson's done his job. Carson's done exactly what he should have done. But I think they believe in Kyler and they want to get back to Kyler. I think that's going to happen as early as this week. Who do the Vikings play this week? Let me just see my schedule here. Minnesota plays at Tampa. Ooh, against what's going to be an angry Buccaneers team that got humiliated yesterday. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, two and a half hour delay and then you need a red zone drive to beat the Cleveland Browns. Instead, the Cleveland Browns come out. Lockett dying. Now Baker Mayfield are the last 11 games and Tampa Bay Buccaneers haven't been fantastic maybe they turn around against the Vikings and Kyler Murray last question here comes from D Bud on some updates yeah another undefeated team Super Bowl champs the Seattle Seahawks they've been playing their backup Drew Locke he's been playing well but do we have an update on their starting quarterback Sam Darnall making progress uh we'll have a chance a chance to come back this week but again they're in a position where they don't have to rush him along Drew Locke is playing great through the three touchdown passes yesterday to Jackson Smith and Jigba and they want to make sure that Darnall is well before they bring him back out there this isn't an 0-2 team right now has to win uh if it takes an extra week or so with Darnall great but he's I think coming along quicker than they hoped making progress and I would think that you might see him back on the practice field some we'll see if he can make it back for the game this week or not anything we missed Shefty uh Avante Maddox the Lions cornerback out for the year not good foot injury uh Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph still not ready Branch is a little bit closer at this point in time than Kirby Joseph so that that's not great um yeah I think that and we'll see some of these injuries today Jaden Reed uh some of the other things you're the man we appreciate you see you tonight that's Adam Shefter uh Shefty didn't seem to have as much juice you think it's because of the injuries you got him his dauber done I noticed that yeah maybe his dauber is done oh bump that somebody just said they wanted me to get Kirked on live live on air what does that mean Jesus Christ that doesn't even mean you know well I think a lot of people are saying a lot of stuff on the internet like I don't say like things and then they just say this is what he just said and people are like yeah that is what he just said it's like no I did not say that can we please 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and natural gas help make thousands of everyday products possible supporting sports and the moments that matter that connect us so whether you're playing watching or cheering it on it takes energy visit ittakesenergy.com to learn more hello beautiful people and welcome back to this glorious overreaction monday september 21st 2026 our tour the sports program begins right now football is the greatest and joining us now is a man who knows what good football looks like he is a uh a man who will certainly say things whenever he is asked to say things he will also say things when he's not asked to say things a guy who says things all football season all day long ladies and gentlemen friend of the program dangerous to say that these days dan orlowski why is it uh why is it dangerous to say well you really did it this time so what were you talking about the way it looks like with the quarterback thing you know because we have some questions it's not just me here with dano obviously back at the thunderdome you got college football national champion super bowl champion riding cup winner a.j hawkins nine-year nfl vet former teammate of yeah dan orlovsky's my quarterback whoa that's big right now quarterback's supposed to look like right there what's happening oh yeah it's unreal i don't know what that means toxic tables here at boston connor and at ty schmidt obviously one half of the hammer died cowboys ap tone is here and dana let's just get into it what is good quarterback supposed to look like if you could go into as much detail as possible i think that'd be good for all parties and if you have anything to clarify just kind of let us know yeah and by the way yeah on you fix your tie by the way you look like an idiot that's the cool relax look uh you don't look like an idiot yeah i never listen to see all your buttons um wow okay so one before i came on i was on the phone with my wife she's like hey pat said that he was going to ask you some of the things that happened last week what do you think he's talking about i was like what do you think he's thinking uh talking about she's like well can you ask him not to i go no um i honestly don't know what you mean not ask we're definitely gonna ask because i don't understand how they became such a big thing i know well i think what happens is every time you scrutinize or potentially dive into somebody a little bit harder than maybe somebody you don't go to there is some things that people start like okay so pointing out evan asked me evan felt awful he texted me like 20 times last week and he's like i'm so sorry i was like you didn't do anything so he asked me why i like the quarterbacks who haven't versus the quarterbacks who have and i said what do you mean and he said well you like herbert and love more than jalen hurts and i said no no no no no i was like i'm a hurts guy and i went through the chronological thing like i was hesitant on hurts i was team carson wentz and then hurts won me over i'm like a hurts guy and i said in relation to herbert like that's kind of what big time quarterback play looks like and he's also accomplished a lot in the league historically i think there's like six or seven things justin has done that still hold true to like historical records in the league most passing touchdowns rookie all that stuff when i say like it looks like big tall fast powerful strong smart big time accuracy arm that's all it meant yeah yeah okay well i'm happy you got to clarify that because honestly we're friends with you we all are friends with you whenever we see you just getting ragdolled through the internet we do feel an obligation to let you kind of say your point let's go to justin herbert though okay because you've been big fan of just herbert you're not the only one darius butler actually back into thunderdome yeah he picked up the chargers as one of his teams whenever he saw justin herbert so i don't think you're the only one that kind of got lost in the sauce of justin herbert being a guy yeah but at this point are we saying he's not what are you no no no so yesterday is not a herbert thing yesterday's not here we go okay okay yesterday first of all nice there there is um six or seven legit just jaw dropping jobs drops on that tape okay there's a drop that becomes an interception their interior offensive line is absolutely atrocious right now and so there are throws that if the ball is caught there's one less interception there's probably another 120 to 150 yards on that tape i'm not just saying this right now watch guarantee comes out when people eventually watch this tape people go wow herbert's really getting let down at least yesterday was getting let down by his teammates um so that's like the big takeaway from that game i think the overall team thing is they look and this is i'm saying this to be not an a-hole they look remarkably unprepared the chargers they look so out coached on both sides of the football and defensively like this ball from kirk it's essentially a two-man route and d but you would know better than me but the backside safety has no vision of like what might be coming from the field and so there's a lot of really bad just fundamental execution football on their tape um and it offensively and defensively i think it's the clearly the most disappointing team in the nfl d but why don't you talk a little bit about that they lose minter obviously got a brand new offense coordinator as well could be an excuse your thoughts on what you've seen out of your old team the chargers d but yeah i said it earlier in the show like i was i'm shocked at how they came we talked to coach hardball we joked about you know the diver being down you know when the center got hurt and everything but it looks like that you turn on tape they don't look almost they don't look motivated don't know they don't look tough and they don't look prepared which is which are surprising things coming from a gym hardball coach team and uh you know dan he says it's less on her i'll put a lot of it on herbert and i was a fan of her i still am a fan of herbert and for all the reasons i guess that dan said you know the arm talent the the physicality all the things that he brought to the to the tape to the team but then once it comes to elevate your game and taking your team over the hump and showing up in the biggest moments that's kind of where i knock him down as opposed to where i pick up a guy like a jalen hurts but i'm shocked at how this team has kind of come out of the gate that touchdown it looks like a high school cover too just safety's dropping with yeah oblivious to where the threats are on the field no one here yeah it was it's unbelievable what the charges have been uh coming out of the gate offensively uh and defensively yeah and just for like the the context of herbert has accomplished a lot of things in his career rookie season most patching passing touchdowns most total touchdowns by a rookie most completions by a rookie most 300 yard games by a rookie most completions in his first two seasons as an nfl player most passing yards in his first two seasons most touchdown passes in his first two seasons, so we've watched him play really big-time football. I have just on the notes yesterday six drops, legit drops. One of them becomes an interception. I have seven clips where no one's even remotely close to being open. I have five different plays when I write WTF are you doing up front, meaning the blocking concept is a total disaster, both run and pass. So my note is it's a comedy of errors by everyone but Justin Herbert right now. Okay, so I like that. People are going to love that you're going to bat for Herbert. Herbert certainly will appreciate that, especially with what's been said. Let's go to something else you could probably take a victory lap on because we kind of called you out for not having enough respect for the 59 points that the Chicago Bears put up. Downpour, obviously, terrible weather. Taylor Williams has a hamstring injury, doesn't finish the game. Bajent comes in. They only score three points. I think it's the fourth. Is that the fourth biggest drop-off from one week to the next? 56-point difference for the offense. Ben Johnson obviously had high hopes and high expectation for this offense. They can only put up three against Coach Flores' defense. What did you see from them? And are you taking a victory lap right now after saying that the Bears in the first week had a bunch of blown coverages on the defensive side? No, but I did text D-Butt yesterday. I said, you guys done having a love fest about Chicago's offense? And he said, it's a monsoon. Exactly, D-Butt. Good call, D-Butt. Yeah. Okay, so one, Ben Johnson and Brian Flores. Ben Johnson in Chicago, Brian Flores has his number. He just does. Is it Flores or Flores? I think it's Flores. It was Flores while he was in New England. I know that. I've always said Flores. It's F-L-O-R-E-S, Flores. Yeah, but Mike Tomlin, who's saying a lot of good stuff on television, who had him on his coaching staff, said Coach Flores like four times. I feel like our one GM friend used to say that as well. Yeah, he was a big Flores guy. Yeah, so whatever the name, he's unbelievable, Flores. Yes, he is back-to-back. But nonetheless, can we go back to the Chicago Bears offense? Sorry. Yeah, I think the thing that stood out in the game was Brian Flores just got a ton of one-on-ones up front. We talked a little bit last week, Chicago's double-team run game. That's the difference. You make them block one-on-one, I think it's a challenge because your front's got to handle it. But that's the first time under Ben Johnson that I feel like the front, too. At least up front, offensively, really got handled. Minnesota's defensive front completely handled them. Now, listen, there were fumbles, there were drops, so the weather absolutely played its part. But Flores has got the number between those guys, at least in the Chicago-Minnesota matchup. So it's just the way that they played their structure front-wise really confused the run game of Chicago, and they made them one-dimensional. Yeah, it was a downpour. Maybe we don't judge it automatically, but if they're going to be a historically great offense, they're going to have to go for it. They're going to have to get going. And Ben Johnson has come out and said he will miss some time with that hamstring injury. We hope he is okay sooner than later. Let's go to A.J. Hawk. He has a question about last night's Sunday Night Football. Dano, yeah, we saw Travis Kelsey last night. He still has it. We know that he looks as good as he ever has. But can you explain a little bit how difficult it is, what he is able to do, how he works off of the defender's leverage, how he and Patrick Mahomes are on the same page? Because I think people take it for granted. They think, oh, what do you mean? Just run to the open space. But, no, it is very, very difficult to do in real time. Can you tell us, like, is anyone else in the league have, like, any quarterback tight end or receiver combination have as much freedom as these guys have? Not as much freedom right now, and nor should they. You know, when I watch Kelsey play right now, I feel like I'm watching Kyle Shanahan call offensive plays. I think one of the things about Kyle is so great is he understands rules of a defense and where they can and cannot be. And I feel Travis has got that same understanding. Like, he just knows, okay, defensive structure is this. That means you guys. Can't be there. My route might say 10 yards, but why wouldn't I break it to 7 yards? And there's so many plays where he just kind of just goes to space. You remember, like, the run and shoot offenses in college football years ago where it was just about green grass. I remember hearing quarterbacks and play callers talk about, we don't really have a route. We just have green grass, and we find different ways to go find that green grass. That's kind of where Travis is right now. It's impressive to watch Patrick indifferent of Travis right now. I think Patrick's throwing the ball best he has in two years. The explosive plays are back. How much they're moving him is back. Kenneth Walker has completely changed this offense, completely changed it. And Patrick's never had this. He has never had this version of get underneath the center, run the football, create the chunk plays down the field, and that explosive element pass game-wise is back. And so having Kelsey had that same understanding, I think he's always had it, obviously, but they just haven't had the opportunity to utilize it because it's just, it's just been short passing game. Now they're creating more space because of the run. Okay, let's go to the other side of the field last night, the Indianapolis Colts. What did you see from them that tells you they won't be a part of the 84% of teams that start 0-2 and don't make the playoffs? No, they're not making it. Oh, no. Pierce is hurt. He was the guy. Josh Downs was tremendous last night. They ran the football relatively well. Daniel played really good. Go on. The defense right now is a weakness. I don't understand. I don't understand defensively necessarily what they're trying to do all the time. It feels like D-Butt would know and A.J. would know a little bit better. It's like, hey, I like this defensive call. Let's just call it. This looks like a cool pressure. Let's call that. And it's very abnormal for Lou Anarumo to kind of have that. There's always been a rhyme or reason to what they do defensively, and right now there's just a little bit of like a roll the dice and let's see if it sticks type of thing. And so, candidly, it's the opposite of what's happening in Cincinnati defensively right now. And so, you love them. You love the way that you ran it. You love the way that Josh Downs played. But I don't think that right now there's enough defensively to keep them really afloat without Alec Pierce and his ability down the field. Yeah. We give up Michael Pittman to the Pittsburgh Steelers. We pay Alec Pierce. We find out that he had to have surgery on his heel, which we thought was an ankle. Then we saw him walking. It wasn't fantastic. They are hoping him for week one. He was there, but limited. Week two, he ends up leaving the game on crutches. But they said they missed, avoided something serious. So when will he be back? We shall see. Jonathan Taylor still got it. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor is going crazy. I think that was the best our offensive line has done in a few games, obviously. And Tyler Warren found himself wide-ass open. Shane Steichen might have called a good game. But that field goal with Patrick Mahomes on the other side. You know what the end result is. We all know. We were all watching it. We all knew exactly what was going to happen. They had to have known whenever they were sitting there on the sideline as well. Defense probably saying, "Hold on. So you want us to now. " All he's got to do is get into Bucker's range. Bucker can hit from 65. So that's just an interesting decision. And hopefully Shane will learn from. But it's a freaking hard-ass league, man. It's a hard league. Yeah. So you guys say ass is cool, but the F1 is not cool? When you say "you guys," what do you mean? You, Shane Steichen. I don't know. Who else? There's some others that say like freaking and stuff. Children. Kids. Yeah. But shout out to the kids. He said it's a freaking hard-ass league. You got to find a way to win. Yeah. Yeah. We're 0-2. It's not fantastic. But I saw things that make me happy. Defense, though, to your point. Oh, my God. It's going to be awful. Over 1,000 yards of offense has been run against our defense in two weeks. That's a record. Come on, boo. You know who was in first before that? The Seahawks in 1976, 884 yards. I mean, we blew right by that. So they've given up over 1,002 games. Woo! Yeah, over 204 yards. Woo! Yeah. The worst ever. It's got to be -- Go ahead, D-Buck. Dan mentioned it. Like, you watch the tape, and it's one of those where, like, you know, I've talked to some other guys around the league, coaches or players, where it's like, hey, what's going on? What are they doing? Like, what do you think they're trying to run here? What coverage? So it's -- and I know week one, I think they changed the green dot because of the communication issues from the sideline to the players on the field, which is a part of it. I know Lou was with -- Lou was with -- what's his name -- Wilson, the linebacker, who does a lot of the communicating for his old defense in Cincinnati. But not having those -- yeah, not having those communicators on the field who can kind of get that message across the board, to have everybody on the same page, because guys were just running wide-ass open. The structure of the coverage just wasn't there. So I don't know what the breakdown of communication is from the coaches to the players right now. Is it a talent thing? Is it a communication thing? Because to be historically bad on defense, I mean, that -- you can't have that coming out of the game. The offense, I think, is playing good enough to win football games. But you're not going to have a chance if guys can't get lined up and cover -- cover guys this season. Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, week one and week two. I get it. Sure. Yeah. Not being lined up -- But, like, it's the AFC, man. Yeah. You've got to deal with Joe Burrow. You've got to deal with Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, but I'm just saying, they called it a wake-up call last week. They're trying to wake up, and now it's -- it's a freaking hard-ass league, man. It's a hard league. It's a hard league. Freaking hard-ass league. It is a freaking hard-ass league, man. Yeah. It certainly is. Speaking of being a hard-ass, I love Dak Prescott in a big old cowboy hat. What did you see from him and the Cowboys? Obviously, big bounce-back win after losing to the Giants in week one. Cowboys in the second half of their loss against the Giants scored on both of their possessions. The Giants just kind of suffocated them like a bowl of constrictor throughout the entirety of the second half with two eight-minute-plus long drives. We didn't know what we were going to see. We didn't know what we were going to see from the Cowboys. CeeDee Lamb, seemingly back to being CeeDee Lamb, obviously George Pickens is on a franchise tag price. They're able to run the rock, and Dak Prescott is spinning it. Your thoughts on the Cowboys and how real they are at this point, and what your thoughts and takeaways are from yesterday? Game's way more about Washington for me. I have no idea how Washington got here. It's week two, and the giant question mark of the whole organization now looms for this year and the future. January 26th of 2005, they're in the NFC Championship game. again, and you're like, wait, is he going to play again this year what's his future look like with a double injury on the elbow fingers crossed he's going to find a way to get healthy and then sustain healthy their defense is so bad I have no idea how Dan Quinn's the head coach and the defense just has vacancies in coverage all the time that they can't make a play on a ball not having Luvu as a pass rusher no one near Ferguson in the red zone if anybody has watched the Cowboys play football at all over the past four years down in the red zone Ferguson's going down the middle of the field it's what they do almost every red zone trip and so to not cover that twice get beat on it twice malpractice jarring yeah malpractice this is two years in a row now remember Dan Quinn fired the entirety of his coaching staff to start anew this year Jaden Daniels getting hurt we obviously hope he's okay Schefter said in the first hour might elect to have surgery doesn't look like that's the case right now we will obviously get updates as we go forward on how much time he will miss commanders certainly in a different spot than they did in the first hour but I think it's going to be a lot of fun and they were just a couple years ago now the Dallas Cowboys you say it's about Washington it's not about Dallas well how about it's about Dak Prescott at home against a divisional opponent Cowboys improved the 23 and 2 outright Wow plus 354 scoring margin in 19 5 and 1 against the spread in home division games started by Dak Prescott 23 and 2 at home against divisional opponents that's pretty good little stat to get into the dance and I guess nobody's gonna really care if the Dallas Cowboys don't want a Super Bowl this year could it be different or you can't just tell because the commanders no they won't I don't think Dallas is good enough to win a Super Bowl right now they're not their defense isn't good enough now Dak breaks the all-time Cowboys passing touchdown record that's a pretty incredible accomplishment and kudos to Dak on that the defense has forced two punts they've played against for the most part Marcus Mariota who is the backup while he awesome career backup quarterback in Washington and Jackson Dart a second year quarterback they forced two punts they're giving up more yards per drive than they did last year they're giving up more yards per drive than they did last year they're giving up more yards per drive than they did last year they're giving up more yards per drive than they did last year they're giving up more yards per drive than they did last year when everyone saying was this when everyone saying was this historically bad defense and so I like the past game for the historically bad defense and so I like the past game for the Dallas offense the run game still is Dallas offense the run game still is not there they're still missing Tyler Smith in that regard not there they're still missing Tyler Smith in that regard but the defense that was supposed to be but the defense that was supposed to be this defense that got fixed and here we go week two this defense that got fixed and here we go week two less missed assignments but still way less less missed assignments but still way less production okay let's stay in the NFC but let's production okay let's stay in the NFC but let's move to the south con man has a question for you move to the south con man has a question for you about Kelly Moe and the Saints yeah Dan a pretty about Kelly Moe and the Saints yeah Dan a pretty unbelievable start for Tyler Shuck in Kellenmore unbelievable start for Tyler Shuck in Kellenmore in his second year with this victory over the in his second year with this victory over the Ravens what did you see from this game because Ravens what did you see from this game because a lot of people are talking about how Derrick a lot of people are talking about how Derrick Henry got the ball twice in the fourth quarter Henry got the ball twice in the fourth quarter while the Ravens are up is it more so you know while the Ravens are up is it more so you know that the malpractice from Declan Doyle not just that the malpractice from Declan Doyle not just handing the ball off to Derrick Henry or are you more impressed with are you more impressed with the Saints and how good it was for that the Saints and how good it was for that comeback in Tyler Shuck not getting his comeback in Tyler Shuck not getting his head ripped off by Roquan Smith on the head ripped off by Roquan Smith on the goal line yeah way more impressed with goal line yeah way more impressed with the Saints number one Tyler Shuck is in the Saints number one Tyler Shuck is in just complete control of everything just complete control of everything they're trying to do offensively I they're trying to do offensively I thought week one against Detroit and thought week one against Detroit and very little plan for pressure since then very little plan for pressure since then just a great plan for pressure so that's just a great plan for pressure since then just a great plan for pressure since then the number one thing to him and the number one thing to him and Olave have a legit connection I'm not telling Olave have a legit connection I'm not telling everybody it's the connection that we see everybody it's the connection that we see Darnold JSN we're not but it's a real Darnold JSN we're not but it's a real connection and Olave being healthy connection and Olave being healthy healthy is a massive difference maker for healthy is a massive difference maker for this football team I'd say the other this football team I'd say the other thing and you'll speak to it better than thing and you'll speak to it better than me in regards to this so kudos to Shuck me in regards to this so kudos to Shuck absolutely the special teams difference absolutely the special teams difference in this game was massive if you go that in this game was massive if you go that right before half there's a kick return right before half there's a kick return and it's really cool I think it's an and it's really cool I think it's an intentional kick return where they kick intentional kick return where they kick the ball Baltimore kicks it to their the ball Baltimore kicks it to their left the returns right returner gets it left the returns right returner gets it and on the whole left side they start to and on the whole left side they start to like fall in on purpose and they pin like fall in on purpose and they pin those Baltimore Ravens guys and then those Baltimore Ravens guys and then there's a double team on the complete there's a double team on the complete outside yeah watch watch the left side of outside yeah watch watch the left side of the screen there's an intentional double the screen there's an intentional double team that's gonna pop up like right team that's gonna pop up like right there and so that you see that double there and so that you see that double team like that's intentional right so team like that's intentional right so that gets the return and then they get that gets the return and then they get into field goal range another throw into field goal range another throw Marlon Humphrey jumps a short in where Marlon Humphrey jumps a short in where he shouldn't this is a really cool like he shouldn't this is a really cool like return thing so they get points right return thing so they get points right before the half here and then I think before the half here and then I think they blocked a field goal as well it was they blocked a field goal as well it was a mess we don't know if it's a block or a mess we don't know if it's a block or not okay ugly ball so like special teams not okay ugly ball so like special teams were absolutely enormous in this game were absolutely enormous in this game for New Orleans yeah and I like that for New Orleans yeah and I like that New Orleans have full faith and shock and New Orleans have full faith and shock and they drafted him in the third round they drafted him in the third round with the idea that he was gonna be their with the idea that he was gonna be their starting quarterback which is I think starting quarterback which is I think he's a second rounder wasn't he hmm I he's a second rounder wasn't he hmm I think was here okay I think it was third think was here okay I think it was third but I think their first pick was in the but I think their first pick was in the third round okay because I think he was third round okay because I think he was their first his second round yeah yeah their first his second round yeah yeah pick 40 oh okay so he was picked 40 he pick 40 he was their first pick though and they were was their first pick though and they were treating him like he was gonna be treating him like he was gonna be the starter literally upon drafting him that the starter literally upon drafting him that was how he's being talked about he was how he's being talked about he wasn't a first runner which is crazy to wasn't a first runner which is crazy to me then he was called what a poor man's me then he was called what a poor man's Josh Allen yeah last week by DC for Josh Allen yeah last week by DC for Baltimore he said that riled him up well Baltimore he said that riled him up well here's an interesting stat about him and here's an interesting stat about him and Josh Allen says hembo Tyler shuck now Josh Allen says hembo Tyler shuck now he's 10 passing and rushing touchdowns in he's 10 passing and rushing touchdowns in the fourth quarter overtime since week the fourth quarter overtime since week 10 of last season second most in the NFL 10 of last season second most in the NFL behind who Josh Allen yeah whenever you behind who Josh Allen yeah whenever you see Tyler shot can you say hey poor see Tyler shot can you say hey poor man's Josh Allen I think what he meant man's Josh Allen I think what he meant was hey these guys got a lot of Josh was hey these guys got a lot of Josh Allen and I'm just in his second year in Allen and I'm just in his second year in the NFL and Kellen Morris seems like the the NFL and Kellen Morris seems like the perfect guy for yeah he's playing at a perfect guy for yeah he's playing at a high level I know Louis Riddick loved high level I know Louis Riddick loved them coming out of school and like took them coming out of school and like took over last year he started to play good over last year he started to play good football at the end of last year and football at the end of last year and they've got some good players on the they've got some good players on the perimeter skill-wise I mentioned Olave perimeter skill-wise I mentioned Olave Johnson's awesome and they lay the Johnson's awesome and they lay the acquisition of the John Bailey I think acquisition of the John Bailey I think the young man they traded for from I the young man they traded for from I believe Denver is just a good like long believe Denver is just a good like long field type of receiver in space and so field type of receiver in space and so pass game wise is really interesting I pass game wise is really interesting I thought another thing that happened in thought another thing that happened in this game because you guys mentioned the this game because you guys mentioned the Derrick Henry second lack of runs I Derrick Henry second lack of runs I think one of the things that starts to think one of the things that starts to show in this game that is going to be a show in this game that is going to be a theme for the Ravens to deal with and theme for the Ravens to deal with and all these teams it's a little nerdy all these teams it's a little nerdy football wise to deal with is we've football wise to deal with is we've raved about putting quarterback back raved about putting quarterback back under center putting quarterback back under center putting quarterback back under center all the teams are doing it under center all the teams are doing it one of the counters that I saw New one of the counters that I saw New Orleans do defensively was quarterback Orleans do defensively was quarterback goes under center blitz the inside goes under center blitz the inside linebackers you know Luther Ellis yeah linebackers you know Luther Ellis yeah longtime like Lions great offensive longtime like Lions great offensive lineman he's got like seven kids who lineman he's got like seven kids who play in the NFL they've got another one play in the NFL they've got another one in New Orleans linebacker another Ellis in New Orleans linebacker another Ellis linebacker in New Orleans and he was him linebacker in New Orleans and he was him and Pete Werner we're just blitzing and Pete Werner we're just blitzing machines up the a-gaps and I think just machines up the a-gaps and I think just that threw Baltimore off and I think that threw Baltimore off and I think that's gonna be a thing that Baltimore's that's gonna be a thing that Baltimore's gonna deal with I think every team in the gonna deal with I think every team in the NFL that's living in this quarterback NFL that's living in this quarterback under center world you've got to be under center world you've got to be aware and ready for the counter of aware and ready for the counter of defenses to those inside linebacker defenses to those inside linebacker blitzes AJ would know far is that blitzes AJ would know far is that double barrels is that what you guys are double barrels is that what you guys are calling it AJ double barrel look up the calling it AJ double barrel look up the gut yeah Dan oh you would know I know at gut yeah Dan oh you would know I know at least talking to centers and guards they least talking to centers and guards they hated when you would show double a gap hated when you would show double a gap pressure because they don't know if pressure because they don't know if you're blitzing you're coming out or you're blitzing you're coming out or you're reading the center there's a lot you're reading the center there's a lot of different things you can do from that different things you can do from that yeah and like for us offensively if we yeah and like for us offensively if we were under center and you walked up in were under center and you walked up in it AJ like you lined up and this is the it AJ like you lined up and this is the center and we're right there we would center and we're right there we would automatically like big okay we have to automatically like big okay we have to get in the gun because we can't we can't get in the gun because we can't we can't block everybody that quickly but I block everybody that quickly but I think the other ones too AJ are like the ones think the other ones too AJ are like the ones when you guys time it you know when you guys time it you know we're underneath the center and all of a we're underneath the center and all of a sudden it's like you you time the snap you it's like you you time the snap and you shoot and then are running back and and you shoot and then are running back and play action has to block you can't play action has to block you can't get there exactly and I think that just get there exactly and I think that just threw Baltimore for a loop AJ how was threw Baltimore for a loop AJ how was your timing just looking at you I'd say your timing just looking at you I'd say you got pretty good rhythm hopefully you got pretty good rhythm hopefully it's good you know what it's good is it's good you know what it's good is hopefully the the play caller gets the hopefully the the play caller gets the play in late to the quarterback and all play in late to the quarterback and all of a sudden I'm sitting there and I'm of a sudden I'm sitting there and I'm timing up the play clock like D button timing up the play clock like D button knows that we're timing the play clock knows that we're timing the play clock to it you have to snap it so if you're to it you have to snap it so if you're going low on it yeah especially double going low on it yeah especially double a gap yeah see you later you get asked a gap yeah see you later you get asked out with that number three whether that's out with that number three whether that's a running back or a tight end that's a running back or a tight end that's what can expose your neck maybe getting what can expose your neck maybe getting out on the screen or just a quick little out on the screen or just a quick little glance route that's what can expose that glance route that's what can expose that kind of double double a gap but you're kind of double a gap but you're going to have to adjust but Dan that kind of going to have to adjust but Dan that kind of leads me I guess to this question leads me I guess to this question obviously Declan door is going to be one obviously Declan door is going to be one of these guys who's been your favorite of these guys who's been your favorite new play caller this year you got a lot new play caller this year you got a lot of play callers on teams that we expect of play callers on teams that we expect to compete Seattle Baltimore Philly even to compete Seattle Baltimore Philly even in Denver who's your favorite so far in Denver who's your favorite so far uh through two weeks oh um Seattle filling uh through two weeks oh um Seattle filling the pants read his notes he's got his the pants read his notes he's got his notes the Panthers have a note yesterday the Panthers Brad Edzik uh Carolina I would say that it's a good one who I think that was tone who said that yeah I was super like wise Canal is giving a play calling right now Bryce Young is balling I mean he is playing at such a ridiculously high level he looks like the guy that was the number one pick I think that everyone thinks Ted McMillan's their number one and probably there's conversation Coker is to me their number one receiver I think Jalen Coker is an absolute stud he's got a little Steve Smith through his game where it's like this stocky tough just but tall he's six foot two six foot three um and the way that they are utilizing their vertical pass games they really get made some throws so Brad Edzik for sure and they're not running the ball exceptionally well right now uh Waller made plays for them so Bryce Young uh because the way their offense is performing yeah Darren Waller by the way what a fantastic pickup this offseason and I think everybody kind of forgets who he is because everything that's kind of happened through his life and his career if they're going to get the most out of Darren Waller that's an added weapon that is obviously absurd let's go to a quarterback that is absolutely dialed in right now maybe playing perfect football for the best team in all the ball right now tone has a question for you Dano yeah Dan uh Pat's talking about Brock Purdy I believe he's 20 of 22 yesterday for 287 yes it was against the Miami Dolphins secondary which you know is not great but he also looked good against the down under. How do you feel about the 49ers and their veteran weapons to go along with Brock Purdy? Yeah, I didn't watch this game yet, so. Jesus, dude. Because of the fins? Because of the fins, again? I haven't watched that. He was good, Dan. Seattle, and I didn't watch New England Pittsburgh. You shouldn't. Don't watch that one. The Pittsburgh Steelers offense. 20-22? Yeah, 287. He won 10-10 thrown to the sticks in Week 2. Most completions without an incompletion on such throws since Josh Allen in 2021. Again, in the playoffs versus the Patriots. So, Brock Purdy was cerebral. The Niners beat the hell out of the Rams, obviously, down under. They come back from the 16-and-a-half, 17-hour flight. Fresh juice. Pound the Dolphins. I like that your, like, kind of strategy for this season is, I'll watch the games that matter. If they're playing the Dolphins, I just can't. No, it's just I haven't. I'll get a watch by tonight or tomorrow morning. Is Brock Purdy going to make a run for the MVP this year? Yes. We think he is. Dan Wagon alert. Dan Wagon alert. There's the Dan Wagon right there. We just heard it. We got the script maybe being read right now behind us. Sounds like there's a lot of second and second and 20s they're working on right now here. Sounds like a go. Don't love that. First down. We got a little flag football going on. 15-yard penalty. Don't these kids have school? Third down. No, it's a holiday. What is it? I think today's Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur, yeah. That's right. Which we did get a message from Schefter. He said in the first hour. Lack of energy might be that it's the holiest day of the Jewish year. Yom Kippur. No eating or drinking, so struggling some. No eating or drinking, I think, since like last night. Checks out. Maybe. The sun goes down, right? I don't want to be a bad person. Do we say happy Yom Kippur? I don't know. Do we say congrats, Yom Kippur? Great question. I think happy Yom Kippur. Happy Yom Kippur. All right. Way to go out there, Schefter. Thank you for reporting in the middle of the fact. Way to battle. Middle of the fast. I absolutely love that. Ty, there's a question for you, Dano. Dano, are the Bucs in trouble big time? It seems like we kind of get the same response after they lose. Baker started last year unbelievable and then, you know, kind of started turning over the ball a little bit. He's doing more of the same this year and the way we were talking about the Browns after week one, you kind of just can't lose to them. Doesn't really matter the situation. Just cannot get beat by the Browns, even though they might have the best head coach in the NFL. And Todd Monken, but how big, like what's the panic meter on the Bucs right now? Incredibly high. I'm going to read you my defensive notes from the Bucs tape just quickly. Bad zone defense, bad zone defense, bad pressure distribution, too soft in coverage, poor tackling, poor tackling, poor tackling, poor tackling, poor tackling, blown coverage. So defensively, the just breakdowns in the second half specifically were just so significant. Boston was great for Cleveland. He's a big time pickup. This is another blown coverage on third and short in the second half under four minutes of the game. I think offensively, what you're concerned about is right now it's, first of all, they called like seven screens yesterday. None of them worked. Second of all, it's either a 40-yard completion downfield or a 40-yard miss downfield. I feel their pass game. It's so high risk, high reward. It's like, shots and Baker hits one or two and then overthrows one or two or there's a disconnect on where the landmark is on the throw. And so to lose that game at home with a 16-6 lead, and they have those back-to-back plays. On third down, they're in empty. They'll play before. Cleveland's got six guys up there. They don't adjust to protection. So look, Baker's right now in panic mode because that right tackle has to block, too. Agbuka's wide open in the middle of the field for a touchdown. Baker takes off. Doesn't have the, you know, doesn't see him. And then on fourth down, at the top, that's the third down. So the fourth down, look at the top of the release because Agbuka's the outside post and the inside guy kind of runs up the backside of him. And what happens is the guy that's covering that inside player, I think it's Tej Johnson, almost runs into Emeka and Emeka is just thrown off just slightly at the top of his route because if he's not, the ball, I think is going to be the proper type of ball and that's going to be a touchdown. But because of the distribution, Emeka comes at the top of his route and it slows down. He almost has to wait for the guy to clear behind him before, instead of running into him. And what you have is a seven-hour L at home to the Cleveland Browns who people are saying is absolute shite. And that leads to the last question from A.J. Hawk from the great state of Ohio. Dano, is Deshaun Watson good again? And is there hope in Cleveland for this team? No, I think Deshaun made some good throws yesterday. I don't want to take that away from him. But I can't sit there and tell you all the bad stuff that Tampa Bay did defensively and not kind of make that an emphasis as well. But there were some throws that were better. Boston made some big-time plays. And Fannin was great as well. Throwing the ball-wise was probably one of the better just throwing it yesterday that we had seen in maybe a year or two. But I think it's just so much more about how bad Tampa Bay was defensively when it comes to just tackling. I don't love that for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We could go back to our initial read of the Bucs, which was a lot of bad vibes. Remember, we had a lot of good vibes for the Saints. A lot of bad vibes for the Bucs. Obviously, Vita Vea situation, Baker Mayfield situation. They're not happy. They're not happy. And then for the Saints, all offseason was like, we're happy, we're happy, we're happy. Kamara's saying I want to stay here. I want to figure out how to stay here. So the vibes thing, I think it really does matter going into a season. Still a lot to play. Still a lot to be sorted out. Those 0-2 and 2-0 stats, though, seem to be very real, Dano. Oh, yeah. And do we know who's going to be good at the end right now? Oh, yeah, absolutely. We know who's good. We know who's like a legit team and who's not. Who's not good? You think? Is anyone 2-0 that's not good, Dano? Alright, let me start. Okay, so teams that I think. So, like, listen, Philly's got the worst offensive line Philly's had in years, but I think you're so encouraged by Jalen Hurts in the past game. Hell, yeah. Tennessee is 0-2. Atlanta's 0-2. I think Carolina's legit, but they have to get better run in the football. Defensively was cleaner yesterday. Cincinnati. Cincinnati's legit, legit. That defensive line, and D-Butt would know better than me, but the cool coverages they're doing are awesome. Oh, they're having fun on the back end down there? Yeah. I like that. Why isn't Lou Anarumo doing any of that? Go ahead. Houston's a legit 0-2 now. Like, that's not a fluke. They've got some problems on both sides of the football. They're asking Stroud way too much. Uh, Green Bay. They stink. Here's the thing, though, with me tying Green Bay. I actually think you walk away going, our defense is actually playing pretty good football. Yes, I agree. But, you know, even through two weeks decimated on the offensive line, Jordan Love is playing great football. If not for Jordan, this would be a complete burndown right now. But they've got to get healthy. Minnesota, 2-0. I have no idea what they're going to do a quarterback. The Raiders? I think the Raiders are good. I don't think the Raiders are a playoff team. I think that they've taken advantage of the Chargers being a disaster and the Dolphins being not good. 80 or 75% chance? He doesn't know. Hey, Gumpy, tell him, please. Does this guy not know about playoff percentages to another team? It sounds like you don't know percentages. 60%. Aw, wake up. I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not putting the Raiders over the Patriots, the Bills, the Jags, the Broncos, the Chiefs, the Ravens. Are we talking about the Broncos? Huge win against the Jags. Now, Trevor Lawrence has a Trevor Lawrence moment of the old days. Bo Nix had a Bo Nix moment of the old days in there. The Denver Broncos get a huge win. Was this a collapse by Jacksonville? Huge win by Denver. How do you view this game? Obviously, Denver needed to come out and have a much better performance than they had on Monday night defensive-wise. I think they did that. Showcase who they are, maybe, a little bit. What did you learn about the Broncos and the Jags? Yeah, this is more about the Broncos kind of looking like we thought the Broncos would look. Davis Webb in the second half does one thing that he hadn't done in the first six quarters. Bo Nix is an athlete. Bo Nix is not this surgical, let me sit in the pocket and just think through this. You've got to activate the instinctual athlete in him early on. So, moving him in every facet, whether design run, bootlegs, just changing the launch point completely changes the way he plays quarterback. Instead of just sitting him in the pocket that's not his style. And so, I think Davis Webb kind of getting on board with that was a big deal. They threw the ball downfield a bunch. That's how they got the ball to waddle a ton down the field. So, second half was a much different offensive performance from their past game. And they just got to realize, like, Bo Nix, you've got to let the athleticism in his game be much more prominent than standing there in a statue way. Defense looked like their defense. The third down defense in the second half was absolutely gross in the way that they kind of threw coverages and different fronts at Jacksonville. Jacksonville needs more out of that guy, though. Brian Thomas Jr., they've got to get more out of him. They've got to get more out of him. Okay, so, not Trevor Lawrence's fault. We're talking about other folks' fault. He just threw a go. That's a cool pressure, though. That pressure's cool right there that they threw. You can't throw that. Oh, it's cool pressure. You can't throw that ball. What's cool about it? In between the numbers. So, they presented man. Everything to the quarterback said man. Motion, alignment, leverage, everything says man. And then at the snap, the front changes and the coverage, I always say, like, it's a clock, you know, AJ like it completely rotates and Trevor thinks he's ripping a hole shot and Riley Moss actually does a nice job of like playing cover two trail hip I don't think I mean I don't know if he's supposed to do that but he trails like it's two man but it's not it's just cover two um you like Riley Moss so I'm supposed no I'm not gonna do it he's a great corner I'm gonna say hard not to twitchy fast that's what it's supposed to look like out there now thanks Danna we appreciate you man did we miss anything in your notes uh Denver Jacksonville Chargers hey you know you said a yesterday today a couple times earlier going half and half today like Tyrese he dropped hard r on yesterday earlier uh no that's everything all right I think that's everything you're the best have a great NFL live we'll see you later tonight thanks bud enjoy what do you think happens here I can't imagine the Rams starting oh and two so um and Aaron Donald coming back uh I I think that the Rams we just believe the travel was a much bigger impact on the team than we kind of gave him credit for yeah I think they also then they gave it credit for as well and I think Sean McVay would probably say that at some point I don't know if he has because even he looked tired and that guy never looks tired yeah uh okay so you like the Rams tonight I like the Rams tonight yeah all right ladies and gentlemen stand up by six and a half does he like him better yeah how much do you like him by Connor said by six and a half um oh the the Rams do I like him winning by a touchdown um that's a lot who could play who could play and do we know trending towards no doesn't look like it no then I would say Giants um then I would say Giants covering right they would lose by less than a touchdown yes yeah I'd say that but I still think the Rams found the way to win the game all right appreciate you you you find every way to win every segment you're a part of you're undefeated Dano except for that one time and that other time and that other time but very high percentage yeah it's like my playing days in the NFL no your percentage then was way lower yeah they said you're right Dan that's what they said you're the man ladies and gentlemen okay some storylines we did not talk about from the weekend obviously college football had a huge one take place what a win by Ole Miss over Lane Kiffin coming back to LSU I was very lucky to be down there I'm back whenever I mean I'm not going to be down there I'm not going to be down there and that place is different that's the most amount of humans I've seen that prepared for a tailgate you talk about tents literally everywhere they've been boozing all day obviously super excited for everything that could take place they filled that stadium an hour hour and a half before the game even got started Sam Levitt obviously running for his life but on the other side Trinidad Chambliss he might be the best football player in the entire country he moves to the odds-on favorite to win the Heisman he was hooping balling going crazy and from our understanding we got out of there immediately after the game they certainly celebrated this win in a huge fashion Pete Golding has been in the middle of the fire literally since he becomes head coach top 10 opponents literally every single week they get another win tone your thoughts on what happened down there in Oxford and uh I'm gonna be honest their game day like presentation we're talking drone shows we're talking a lot of fire we're talking wristband light show happening around there for the entirety DJ was on it as soon as a tackle had happened we got Mo Bamba playing just fill in the space it felt like it felt like a beautiful beautiful night of college football and obviously football Justice could have been uh served uh that evening as well too yeah the atmosphere looked incredible obviously you guys were there but like it came across on the TV and Trinidad is just inevitable like even it's not just his legs it's not just the pocket it's everything he always seems like he always makes the right decision and on the other side it felt like in the first half Sam Levitt was a bit rattled it felt like he wasn't even looking downfield a lot of time it was a lot of you know hit your back foot and then take off and then he kind of he kind of settled down and made some throws in the second half and things got tight and then Trinidad had one of those Trinidad drives that they'll remember down uh in Oxford forever I thought I thought Will Eccles the d-tackle for Ole Miss played great against that LSU offensive line he was a huge difference maker the LSU secondary played a lot better than they did or sorry the Ole Miss secondary played a lot better than they did against Louisville I thought it was a great game plan from Ole Miss and execution and atmosphere and everything I that was really really well done and I was really really happy for Pete Golding down there yeah I was very happy for Pete Golding I was very happy for the people down there who showed up for us at game day I mean it was hot dude that is a I've been living in the South for three weeks here yeah I don't know I don't know how they do it just sweating for the entirety of my existence down there in those states obviously it's been an SEC start for college game day as we head back to Tennessee Rocky top what a kick I I mean just absolutely pure this move these kids to the hash pass something's going on dude yeah I mean it's a lot of soccer players coming early I think it's a smart decision but you still have to make it you know like Jacob here he still has to make it in front of all those people for a million bucks the head case that could potentially come these guys are seemingly fighting through it I was so impressed with these two kickers Connor and then Jacob here and obviously it's been pretty expensive I have no idea where we're supposed to go from here I I don't know 50 yard line yes okay if you guys have any uh ideas I'm open to them what we're supposed to do yeah a lot of the other guy other guy in front of him with his hands up I'll tell you what I seen other guy you know last night for how much he's been on not at snack bar he was uh actually in the hotel Lobby he got a chance to go sneak peek a uh a movie like he got invited to do a whoa a sneak peek that's utter screening a lot of people did from our understanding they all came in at the same time we we did not get the opportunity to go watch meet the Falkers no no you're not gonna get it out of us either maybe Stanford Steve will have to tell the boys what it was on Friday when he stops by but Stanford Steve looks good he's only been home like I think one day in the last three weeks so everybody pull for your favorite Stanford Steve when you can get going game day game days in Knoxville going back to Rocky Top as Texas heads there can't wait to get down there obviously I don't know what's going on there obviously I don't know what's going on obviously I don't know what's going on obviously I don't know I have very very high hopes for the atmosphere of game day and the atmosphere of the game and Rocky Top's a beautiful place sure wish we were going to Morgantown West Virginia that what a win by West Virginia down there in Charlotte North Carolina which we certainly all knew that wasn't Charlottesville it was just in Charlotte it was a neutral site the West Virginia Mountaineers packed that place out and we got a quarterback in Michael Hawkins Jr transfer from Oklahoma who looks a lot like Pat White and I'll tell you the stats are saying he might be the best quarterback in the country right now I don't know if you've got a chance to watch this entire game AJ or UD but but just know that this is pretty reminiscent of what the Mountaineers used to look like Darius yeah I did have this on in the quad box and it was a couple moments I was like oh that does look like number five and white but he's electric and this game was back and forth all all the way up to the fourth quarter unbelievable finished by these guys and this is when you always talk about we always talk about you know these strength coaches and conditioning these hard-ass coaches and I felt like that's what we saw was the difference late in this game like I feel like the conditioning was better and West Virginia just finished kind of put that foot on their throats unbelievable matchup it was a back and forth game I thought it was a really good game obviously this was on the same time as the uh LSU Ole Miss games but a very good football game out there yeah I would say West Virginia is all the way back Oklahoma State going to Morgantown I think that would have been biblical if we would have taken college game day there instead Tennessee Texas we assume West Virginia will continue to have success and we'll get there down the road congrats this new this is right now congratulations thank you for choosing West Virginia brother we are very very very lucky that you did that and speaking of very very lucky Jared Curtis the freshman quarterback for Vandy he gets a win in his first start from maybe the the biggest oh no in the history of football this is D1 football NC State representing the ACC up three slow safety could give up two Bumble anything but take contact anything but lose the ball instead Vandy gets the dub and NC State is going to have to live with this on the record forever as maybe being one of the biggest oh no's in the history of ball I've been a part of some dumb place please let's not act like it doesn't happen everybody remembers what we did against the New England Patriots where we run that fake punt thing and obviously that takes place a slow safety at the end of the game to win to get a huge dub over Vandy for NC State especially with what happened to them against Virginia in their opener to trick it off like this in the end zone in a fashion that I don't know if I've ever seen at a D1 level especially in that situation tough stuff but what a win for Vandy AJ what a win I guess why didn't he get out the back of the end zone why don't do anything but this right just throw it deep or throw it up in the air I guess there's all kind of opposite we used to practice this on Friday Friday afternoons at least in the NFL quarterback you know by time by time steps out of the back of the end zone before it gets touched like you never want to be touched obviously yeah so this happens a lot with the punter everybody remembers Sam cook in the Super Bowl whenever the Ravens were taking on uh the Niners I do believe is how the game ended we would work this every single week slow safety fast safety fast safety uh snapper just snaps it directly out of bounds I don't touch it let's just give them a safety let's go punt this thing from the 20-yard line and kind of move on with our day slow safeties you're trying to drain that thing let's get this game over with no contact and remember if he was to throw this the ball the clock doesn't stop until the ball hits something so we've even worked with the Indianapolis Colts slow safety from like the 25 line where I take a snap and I jog backwards and I turn around and I throw that thing as high and as far as I possibly can into the stadium because it doesn't stop until it hits something. You could take 10, 13, 14 seconds off if you're able to move and do everything. This was just a failure on all accounts. And I don't want to just blame the quarterback, but it's hard not to at this age of football and at this stage of football. But what a nightmare ending, D-Butt, for the NC State Wolfpack who are howling with tears instead of howling in celebration. Absolutely. Oh no, I think I saw a graphic of whatever record it was with a team having to leave with 10 seconds left and it was like a thousand something in one. It's something you never see happen, not only on a D1 collegiate level, but like a high school level. And it kind of started on the defensive side. I'm always looking at the defensive guys on the left. It almost came very, very close to being an offside, but he did a great job of kind of setting that edge and forcing the quarterback to kind of stop and pull up and him obviously the quarterback not protecting the ball. See, he wanted to continue going to the right, had to pull up right here and just run into the gauntlet. But you got to put two hands on that ball, cover it up, go down to the ground, throw it out of the back of the end zone, run out of the back of the end zone. Obviously so many options here, but man, this is a terrible, terrible way to lose. Nobody on either side of those sidelines will ever forget the end of this game. Yeah. And if you're Vandy, go ahead and celebrate that thing. Yeah. A win is a win. Let's move along. Anything else we missed from the college road, Boston Connor? I mean, the biggest upset I thought of the weekend was Kentucky going into Texas A&M, kind of blowing college station completely up. And Bill Stein, he had a pretty unbelievable postgame presser as well. That was fantastic. SEC showed up big time because the Big Ten didn't really have much to go off of this weekend. Oregon scored 84. Yeah, that was cool. Dylan Raiola is wearing number eight somehow. Some good games in ACC too. Louisville, big win. The Louisville, big, big, big win over SMU. And then obviously Clemson getting a win over UNC. And we had that salty, salty Bill Belichick postgame. So I love that. Yeah. And then the delay in the Florida State, Alabama, it felt like we had weather across the board, you know, as we get into this season and people are going to have to deal with that, teams are going to have to deal with that. The Browns dealing with that better than the Bucs seemingly. Wild. Shocking. Did you listen? Did Pat, did you listen to the report? It was, it was on red zone. They were coming out of the weather delay in the sideline reporter. I forgive me. I can't remember who it was. She was saying that the, the Bucs were incredibly quiet, the entire weather delay, but the Browns, they were bumping music, the entire weather lane and stuff. I was like, oh, I, I almost went immediately live bet the Browns. Now I can't do that physically. My fingers won't let it happen. But like that was interesting, interesting to see that the vibes were much higher on the Brown side during the weather delay than the Bucs. Tone, what do we have tonight with our friends over at DraftKings? Remember DraftKings available in all 50 states. If you're of age and agreed to gamble responsibly, we'd love for you to come join us tonight. We'll be boosting what tone digs. We are boosting cam Scataboo. Anytime touchdown score boosted to plus one 50. The man has a nose for the goal line. Uh, so hope we get a, uh, back on the winning track with this one tonight, Pat. Yeah, we need one. We've been losing a couple of my Saturday game day picks. SMU would have been able to keep that within three and a half against Louisville. Obviously we hit there. That would have been, that would have been sweet last week. Kenneth Walker scores early. JK Dobbins doesn't get the rock tonight. Cam Scataboo is going to get the ball. Cam Scataboo is touching paint gamble responsibly with us saying that, but certainly come join us. We'd love to have you DraftKings, the best sports book on earth. AJ, as we continue digitally here, what do we need to hit in the next hour that we haven't chatted about just yet? I want you to get out there and watch Puka warmup pregame whenever this happens, because it sounds like he's a game time decision from everything. Chef D and all the others are saying, I don't know if Puka is playing against these kids playing flag football out here, but I was certainly have my eyes on the field as I'm boots on the ground here at SoFi Monday night football giants Rams Monday night countdown 6:00 PM Eastern. See you then. Oh, I think I got it in. Oh yeah. Yup. Oh, look at this. Will you guys look at this shit though? I mean, they're doing it pretty cool to play seven on seven down there. It's a big, what a shot. Yeah. Look at that. We think more Rams fans or giants fans tonight. Ooh, what is it? 50, 50 going giants. I would assume a lot of New York people have a lot of, uh, opportunities in Los Angeles. Did you do that? Whoa. I did not do that. I did not do that. Does this change it at all? Yeah. Yep. It did. Oh, okay. See, it was, it was probably white balancing off the beautiful led board up there. And then it comes back to my sunburnt broil face, you know, from being in the south, interesting, uh, interesting weekend down there in Oxford. The internet was certainly alive. Yeah. AJ, you know, you say, you do say, yeah, I just, I just don't like that. That, that has just become the new thing. Like, yeah, we can just make up what this guy says and then everybody just gonna believe it. Cause we've quoted him out of context. So many times people just believe that this is what he, it's interesting time for me to be alive. Just know, literally all I'm trying to do is celebrate the hell out of football and have a good time out there, you know, have a good time out there. There was this one particular lady, uh, Jill from Florida, I think her name was, um, Maggie run O over soon. And I was like, so fascinating because we're literally what? Three years into this on TV. Is that what this is? Three years, four years into this TV thing. I forget if it's three or four, I think four say four. What's the average age of people? What is the average age of people that are on TV? Like 55, 60, 70, maybe some of these people that have been on TV. And it's just been like the same people wearing the same suits with the same a block B block, C block, production, same opinions, same recycled everything for so long. And then we come in here, you know, as a new generation, we are very, very lucky to be a part of the generation that we're able to create our own sports media. And it feels like every sports media person on the internet and digital wise that has had success has done it the complete opposite way of how the Corpo sports world people have been doing it for a long time. So I can completely understand the amount of people that like hate my guts and shit, but they just need to know like, the next group that's coming after us, they're going to be so much better than we are. And they're not going to be doing your corporate boring bullshit about sports. That is just not what it's going to be. So for everybody that just hates my guts, I understand. I completely understand. There's a lot of things that I assume you like, that I think is absolutely putrid and shouldn't get on television. So I appreciate you misquoting me putting me out of context, trying to kill me trying to kill the shows that I'm very lucky and thankful to be a part of but in bulk, and if you could get my words, right, what I say, that'd be sick. And if you can provide context on the things that I say, that'd be cool, too. Because I don't think we're going anywhere, from my understanding. I'm 39, a very weathered 39. But I think we're doing a okay. And literally, celebration of sport and ball is allowed. And if it wasn't for all the shitty shows of the past, we wouldn't be here right now. So you can kind of blame yourselves for all of it. Now, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. might change their life. Let's take a break on the other side. Let's cover all the headlines that we haven't hit. Let's talk all the things that ball requires us to talk about as we feed into a Monday night football between the Giants and the Rams. That's going to feed families and we have overreaction tweets from all around the internet in the NFL fandoms. I can't wait. Boys, how you feeling back there in the Thunderdome? So when a helicopter comes in, you're not on American soil. Okay. When it's one of those military helicopters that comes. This is somebody that's been around military a couple of different times and talked to a couple of people. When these helicopters come and you're not on American soil, which is what I said. I think you should probably get the fuck out of there. I think that's probably good. Because there's probably seals that are about to hop out of that thing. You know, like Osama bin Laden raid, potentially. Or when we head to Venezuela, or when we go to Libya, or any of these other things that I'm not 100% like for us doing all these things. But I certainly understand that when the choppers are flying that low, I don't know if it's necessarily a great thing. If you're not on our team, our team is United States of America. And let's remember, we're in this thing together. And I'm very thankful for all of it. But I don't need to be misrepresented by grandstanders, who then will tell other people that they're terrible people while putting something out into the world to potentially start a war for somebody. That's a complete lie. So I'm a little worked up about it. I'm a little worked up about everything that's been happening out there. But uh, we're just trying to do it right, man. That is literally what we're just trying to do. Just trying to do it all right and celebrate it all. And tonight is no different. Monday Night Countdown show. I think we got some good shit coming. Hell yeah. Love that. Last week was, yeah, last week was a blast. Last week was also 200 degrees. LA here, perfect weather. Nice, nice. I assume very nice. Yeah, well, it's very nice. But you got to remember, they didn't build a dome here. Remember, they just did the super artsy LED board covering it. Where it rains inside. It can. Yes, there's a nice breeze coming right now. Okay. Nice breeze. We have been here whenever it rains inside. Oh yeah. You know, we have certainly been here whenever that happens. But the breeze that's coming through, almost perfect. It feels like this is the most fall football-y feel that I've had all season thus far. And it's uh, I think it's fitting to be an incredible evening for Matthew Stafford and Jackson Dart and the boys. Let's take a break. On the other side, we'll cover everything that uh, that needs to be chatted about. And the overreaction tweets from all around ty how many uh how many different teams are represented in the overreaction tweets and who was the most vocal would you say out of them all uh falcons falcons fans are not happy browns fans on the other side are ecstatic um yeah i tried to you know i tried to go through and grab all the people who basically were down in the dumps last week there's a couple teams who you know weren't great uh and who their fans are really really relishing uh their their victory today so tried to grab a couple of those it's well represented let's say that i can't wait to dive in be a friend tell friends i'm nice might change their life take five strong communities are built in the places where life happens where families build their lives where students build their futures where businesses create opportunity you bloom energy provides reliable power for the places communities depend on every day from hospitals and college campuses to stores and factories clean 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i must say earlier today multiple credentials needed multiple different check spots everybody's safe everybody's ready to go for tonight giants first the rams can't wait to see how this giants team looks after a pummeling game and we'll see you guys next week win over the dallas cowboys in week one and then the los angeles rams they got absolutely smacked in australia aaron donald projected expected to return after a two-year hiatus what does he do for the team that literally started worse than any uh odds on favorite in the history of the nfl cannot wait to see how this battles out joining us or joining me live from the thunderdome is a great group of dudes just an absolutely unbelievable cast you have aj hawk darius j butler the toxic table at boston connor and at ty schmidt and in one half of the hammer died cowboys ap tone on this glorious overreaction monday we head to the internet ty you said there was a lot of representatives it became the number one trend on x so we appreciate everybody uh all we wanted anybody to do was just kind of let it all out you're not dramatic you're not doing anything crazy you're just speaking from an actual nfl fan point of view best ones make the show all you have to add to your tweet is let's start with in-house in the thunderdome tone digs tweets hey pat mcafee show hashtag i don't want to overreact but i'm gonna need a day off soon i'm gonna have the funeral to attend rogers either gonna die in the pocket or kill big mike from continually throwing him on her bus obviously aaron says he needs to talk to the coaches and the play callers about maybe a little bit better plays down the stretch there and then the offensive line he gave up one of the biggest hits he's ever had as a 40 plus year old in his entire nfl career tone i don't know if it's a funeral but it sounds like you're a bit down and out your daubers down on the steelers yeah dauber is super done um you know you when you hire a new coach after you know having a coach for 18 plus seasons and you know it's an offensive mind and coach for the first time ever you you expect the offense to get better and it has not uh as of yet two of the worst offensive games of all time in the first two weeks i'm expecting wholesale changes on the offensive line potentially to try to get things right you know there's uh there's not a lot of great going on right now dk's drop balls i will say is pat frarmouth playing his ass off okay but other than that not a lot great going on they can't run ball they can't throw the ball um defense is good can i catch the ball no they can't do that outside of yeah outside of month uh but no it's tough times again so we'll see the steelers have scored just one touchdown in 25 total possessions over the first two weeks pretty good season pretty good same old steelers football there okay hopefully they're able to turn it around ice thanks a lot matt canada where do you think he started this whole thing yeah he's put some sort of curse pieces i mean that's that's a canadian way no offense to the canadians i am just strictly talking too gumpy yeah right over here okay so everybody knows that i am literally just talking to him whenever i talk about all of canada but i do think it can ring true to the entire country right gump yeah yeah what is that shirt there malachi tony darian menta tarp he meant a whole life brother hey paul you got any pants out here in la or did you think we were going to the south again yeah i completely forgot i thought maybe they were some of my bag there's not i also don't know where my wallet is so let's go if you are if you're in kansas city uh oxford austin baton rouge or los angeles and you find a kyle cathcart wallet or indie even send it back to gumpy okay you certainly use the card a couple times get a couple loonies and toonies out of there but we are certainly looking for it it has been gone for a while let's go to the next overreaction this is from noel at noel costella hashtag i don't want to overreact but but darius j butler needs to get us a goddamn curse away from the bears pick back up the chargers bud the moment you join the fandom the qb dies and the offense plays peewee football you curse the bears but are you hearing a lot of this out of chicago i did not expect it i'm hearing a little bit of it but shut up shut the hell up all right it was a monsoon out there and look i i've been rooting for the eagles huh they've been two super bowls in the last four or five years so no i'm not a curse he was on madden so if you're going to blame anybody blame the madden people but we got some good news then ben johnson followed up and said caleb's week to week now uh i respect the overreaction it was week two and yes everybody was high on caleb in the offense after scoring for 59 points you go out there and put up three you lose you get carted off you're down and dumped so as a fellow bears fan i respect your pain but shut up okay i like that you're on the bears train and uh hopefully they're able to get better as they go along and i think maybe people are saying caleb might have overreacted to what he thought happened he reacted perfectly and he started his recovery early obviously not utilizing his hamstring at all during that cart out if he didn't get carted out he'd be walking all these up the tunnel that only adds more impact to the injury so he's taking care of himself and the reason why he had his towel on his head is because his dauber was done so done because of how and also it was raining so maybe he was trying to you know cover his face a little bit that makes sense certainly that might have been the reason why he didn't get carted off mustache yeah certainly that mustache hope he gets better ben johnson said he he will miss some time let's go to the next overreaction this one's from gooch stevens uh okay shout out to your name hashtag i don't overreact but ty steichen might be the antichrist colts had a day but after marching down in ot osama ben steichen decides to go for the tie yes let's give three-time super bowl champ three-time super bowl mvp two-time league mvp patrick mahomes the ball with three whole ass minutes left fire everyone says gooch i think we've hammered this home quite a bit i think steichen would go back and redo this if he knew what the outcome was going to be but that's part of the problem is we all knew what the outcome was going to be as soon as soon as you give patrick mahomes that amount of time and all he has to do is get in the field goal range with harrison bucker who has one of the biggest legs in all of ball i appreciate the um confidence in the defense but i just think we've seen this too many times to not expect this to go exactly how colts covered yeah yeah great cover which we like we certainly like that but now the colts haven't won since like 2025 or something like that and uh patrick mahomes is now eight no in regular season overtime games passing jake the snake plumber for the longest win streak by starting qb at any point in their career since the nfl introduced overtime d but osama ben steichen that seems a bit much i mean yeah it's over actually monday right i think i think it's fair for today i i don't i don't think it's bad at all i'm sure i'm surprised he let ballard escape there oh there were plenty of osama bin ballard okay okay yeah so yeah for today and today only terrorist organization maybe we drop those some of ben ballard's and psychins but uh yeah i was thoroughly disappointed like you said we all knew exactly what was going to happen foregone conclusion you give not only patrick mahomes but harrison bucker i know a lot of people probably jumped off the bucker train but that's a multiple-time super bowl champ as well he gets in that situation he's going to make that kick you're in the chief's kingdom and you got an opportunity to get a win from it you're actually getting calls going your way you make a big play and get in there in uh area you gotta capitalize and we did not but uh so i think I think it's all fair on Overreaction Monday. Yeah, calls going our way. That was definitely a first down. Treadwell was never touched. I don't know what the hell is going on. But there were certainly some other calls that went our way. Tom Pestock, the artist formerly known as Baron Corbin, was bitching all over the Internet about it all. And I appreciate what Treadwell did last night. But just like he didn't touch home plate in the softball game, this one, you know, give up a ball late, decide not to give the number 13 to Keenan. Let's go ahead and figure this out. Let's figure this out as fast as possible. There's too many Osama bins being associated with the Indianapolis Colts right now. Yeah, so Balaban as well. The Al-Qaeda Colts I saw. Oh, jeez. God. Get some, I mean. They're a terrorist organization. And there are other terrorist organizations they can, you know, reference instead of this one. Yeah, they're hitting Cooper Rush with that. I saw his Wikipedia got changed to Cooper Adolf Hitler Mussolini Bin Laden Rush. They made all those names his middle name. Yeah, it was not cool. Yeah, there's been some really good internetting happening. And the one that really clarified for me was Cooper Cush had a nice little life. You know, he had a nice little life. He's coming in to third string quarterback. And now his Wikipedia is calling him Adolf Hitler. That is, hey, that's the game. You live in the paint, you're going to get dunked on every once in a while, especially down there in Atlanta. We appreciate all the boys going out there and laying turds so we can have this particular day on every single Monday. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go to G.S. Truther at GottaGremlin. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but here we go. The Atlanta Falcons fans chanting that they want a fourth string D2 undrafted QB to get in the game instead of Cooper Rush is the biggest indictment of how pathetic this franchise is. Hashtag sell the team. Connor, a lot of this from the Falcons fans. I mean, they were batting 1,000 on the internet right now. Yeah, a lot of that. I saw some people saying they have too much talent for them to lose games like this, but I'm not so sure this isn't the best thing that we can have. I'm not so sure this isn't the best thing that we can have for everybody's entertainment. Absolutely, the Falcons are going to be in primetime these next three weeks in a row, so we would like to see a little bit of improvement, but because they are so bad, it is almost better for the entire planet to experience them on the internet. Jack Strand didn't deserve this. Let me just say that first and foremost. We saw him in preseason against the Colts. This boy's a star. He's got talent. He will be better. For his first pass to be a pick six, that is just absolutely miserable, and I'm not so sure that's more. So, the curse that's on the Atlanta Falcons right now, even though I don't know where it's from. What happened there at the end? I saw a Carolina Panthers player just come diving in. It looked like he was potentially elbow dropping. Did you see that, AJ? Let me see. So, Jack Strand hits the wide receiver right in the chest. Pick, how you doing? Let's finish this out. And then watch 52 here, I think. He's just having fun. He's just having fun playing ball. Yep. That's awesome. He's living. Jack Strand doesn't deserve that. No, he doesn't. All right. Carolina Panthers having fun out there. Hey, Carolina Panthers, that's a good football team. Good football team. That's a good football team. Okay, let's go to the next overreaction. It's from at Spider Coat. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But. The Dallas Cowboys, once again, have a top three offense in the league, but a bottom three defense. Lamar and Henry are rushing for 300 against us next week. D, but I thought we loved the new defensive coordinator. Seems like it's a lot of the same. Yeah, I mean, look, a lot of these things look and sound good on paper, but, shit, Rams, they're fighting for their first win going into week two. You got to go out there and actually do it. So, yeah, we'll see. They got the pieces on paper. Can they actually go out there and play? Did they look better this week? Yes, they did. But I'm coming off a week where Derrick Henry didn't get enough touches in the second half. You better believe they're going to have it circled like, hey, get him 30 touches this game. So, yeah, he might run for 250. A lot of people are calling Derrick Henry potentially the greatest running back of all time. I'm hearing more and more of that. So, yeah, get 22, some touches. But I think the Cowboys will get better. As this season goes on. We have some breaking news as we interrupt this overreaction Monday. Adam Schefter is tweeting, Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell says Kyler has cleared concussion protocol and will start Sunday versus Tampa. Okay. All right, Kyler. Welcome back, Kyler. Welcome back. Schefter told us that Carson Wentz did his job, okay, and when Kyler gets back, they want to know what they have. At least they know the Carson Wentz experience, I guess, is always available, who has them sitting at 2-0. Kyler Murray getting back out there. It did not look good. It did not look great to start the season, maybe the last couple of weeks, getting to watch Carson kind of operate the offense, learn the offense a little bit more, get healthy. Maybe this will be good as they head down into a wounded Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let's get to the next overreaction. I think that's good. Is it good news, A.J., or bad news for the Vikings? It's got to be good news. I mean, obviously, Carson, as Schefter said, did what he needed to do. But we got to see what we have in Kyler. I mean, this is a one-year approved deal for him anyway, right? They don't have to pay him anything. He's getting paid from Arizona. Yeah. Do we want to keep him long-term? Man, Kirk -- I mean, sorry, not Kirk. But just like Kirk, Carson's winning. You're saying -- how do you pull him when he's 2-0? What are your ties to Kyler other than, like, he was a fan as a kid, and we talked about him being the starter at the beginning of the season? I just don't think I expected Carson to win a couple games and then get pulled for a guy that's never really played for the team before. But I guess they do have very high hopes for Kyler. And Kyler is their quarterback that they want going forward. Just seems like an interesting decision whenever the team wins. Maybe Kyler comes out and lights it up. And I believe we'll be talking to Kevin O'Connell here in the next day or two. Nice. So we'll kind of get more from him on the decision. But it does surprise me a little bit that you take out an undefeated quarterback, especially whenever he's kind of been dropped in in interesting circumstances. Backup quarterback, gets none of the reps week one, throws three touchdowns, zero interceptions. He's the first guy to do that since Fran Tarkenton. And then yesterday against the Chicago Bears in a monsoon, in an absolute monsoon, they get another win. I don't know. That's an interesting decision to me, AJ. I just -- for me personally. What's the leash on? I trust Kevin O'Connell more than me. I guess how do you -- when Kyler goes in there, let's say he goes three and out the first three series. Then what do you do? That's the question, I think. You got to play him. I mean, he came into camp. He won the starting job. This is kind of old school. You don't lose your job because of injury. So Carson Wentz, you did what you're supposed to do, you know, going in there, getting two wins. And look, it's great to have that insurance policy as a backup quarterback. And you know you can go to Carson if you need to, again, whether Kyler's playing terrible or he's injured or something. But yeah, you got to get along. I would think a long, good look at Kyler Murray as your starting quarterback, especially if you're Kevin O'Connell. Because I think there is some pressure -- I don't know how it is in that building -- but I think there is some pressure on KOC to find not only quarterback for this year, but the long-term quarterback. So I think he has more confidence in Kyler going forward than he does with Carson Wentz at this point, at least. Well, Ian, I guess you're 2-0. So hey, we're two ahead right now. So we already got two wins. If it takes him another game or two to get back into it, at least we have him long-term. We have not seen Kyler at practice. We've only seen what he's been able to do. Week one before Carson came in, it wasn't great, but he's obviously new to the offense. We'll see how it goes. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? It's from @TradeStar at @EasyPeasyInvesting. I'm sure he's got it figured out. #Idon'tWantToOverreact, but the Chargers organization is a joke. Sell the team, fire Jim, Joe, and the whole front office. Offense looked like a JV's first install day. Defense looks like it belongs in the MAAC. Oh, wait. That's where our DC is from. Time to tank. Two new corners. We're going to have to get back to the game. there were talks that he was and then they kind of tabled it and it was going to be like hey let's let's wait and see let's see how he does this year obviously still early but three through two weeks like you can you can see that he has gotten much better and that he might be their franchise guy moving forward so yeah why not i mean they damn near beat the rams last year at home in the playoffs and that division doesn't look great so i mean if they can you know consistently put up 30 plus points every week why not the panthers as we have said time and time again uh this is a good football team and they may be bordering on a great football team oh yeah they're looking for that great football team moniker uh we certainly heard from the panthers during the combine it's like i think they like the grind i like the journey or they like the journey and david tepper has been an owner that is what been kind of out of the news that normally means things are going great shout to the whole team down there let's go to the next uh overreaction shall we this is carlos gavia jr hashtag i don't want to overreact but the raiders got a different vibe not just a coaching change but a culture change raiders will be fighting for the afc west title in january i believe them aj why not yeah why not i think kirko like as long as he is playing like he is keep him in there let fernando sit back and learn but what kirk's got three touchdowns in the first two games each each game right so three touchdowns first game three touchdowns here yeah i know dano said you know the chargers let some free runners their defense maybe was not playing uh their their best but i like what they have in kirk i know kirk may not have the strongest arm in the league right now but i think he knows where to go he knows how to distribute it and like you said mad max man is still doing it on the defensive side of the ball that is mad max man crosby he was supposed to be a baltimore raven instead he is a raider congrats to them having their best roster and last one here from michael page at mikey page hashtag i don't want to overreact but the road to super bowl 61 is back deshaun watson is back our head coach is dropping f-bombs in a postgame presser our starting safety is picking fights with offense alignment the defense is full of dogs cleveland football might actually be back d-butt is mikey page onto something here you know what it's overreaction monday and i love this i love this from a browns fan you never see this from browns fans even like in the offseason everybody's positive during draft season everybody's positive you never see this with browns fans so yeah i love this deshaun watson he's playing some good football we've been saying it for what five six years now hey can he get back to old deshaun can he get back to old deshaun boston we love him what he's shown fanning he's been great defense can they continue to show up so yeah it's a good start i like the positivity coming from the browns fan and i loved what i saw from todd monken after the game with that oh brown's gonna browns fuck that i absolutely love this from uh what's his name mikey shout out mikey yeah mikey page and here is coach monken browns are gonna browns fuck that okay so the guys took that to thank you right love everything about that was all right i'll see you later thanks write that all of it send that to tomlin tell him we don't like it and the browns is different now because i'm here i like that i appreciate that i respect that and to the ms and all the other browns fans maybe this is a year that isn't a laughing stock because we thought they were going to be in the shite division for the entire season now we're just one week uh removed and they already beat the tampa bay buccaneers tomorrow we will roll out the shite division and we're going to be in the shite division and i'm a little bit worried about who's going to be on there and aj i want you to think long and hard on who you're going to be voting for to be in this shite division because the colts look good on monday or on sunday night aj they did i mean there's no moral victories but i mean they almost won that football game a primetime game against the chiefs so i'm not i'm not completely down on the colts i know we had some people that overreaction monday they may have been a little bit down i'm i'm not that down on them to be honest with you okay so your dauber's not that done my dauber's like medium medium medium in the middle of the road i guess when it comes to the indianapolis colts yeah all right let's remember that whenever we're voting for the shite division all right my dauber you're a semi you got a little semi my dauber is semi for semi daubed a dauber's in a cold tub oh boy oh is it really not good so bad what nine nine long in a row you could put it you know that you could put a hot towel on the dauber for my understanding sleeve over it too yeah i think it will help yeah you got to wear little things on your toesies the little ruffles things on your toes you put a hot towel on your shaft while you're in the hot cold tub no what are we talking about dauber dauber dauber what the hell are you talking about but he said cold tub you said hot towel well he said the dauber was down like it was a cold tub that well i don't know what you're talking about i'm not sure what's going on to be honest right now but yes if you're talking about something very different than we were talking about yeah take that hot towel okay put it on the dauber then whenever you get in there first three four minutes so the initial shock is okay the initial part of it isn't that bad yeah then whenever you create that little air bubble that we're all trying to find in the cold tub your dauber has already been insulated okay so your dauber doesn't go down as much i will say that hot towel is going to turn into a cold towel eventually and dauber will find its way to go way down towards the end but the initial shock to the dauber a-okay and that's what it's all about the initial shock to the daubers of all these nfl fans through week one and week two week two wraps up tonight here in sofi stadium are the rams going to be oh and two are the giants going to be two and oh so much can be said allegedly through the percentages of teams that are either undefeated to start the season or completely defeated i think we covered that in a variety of ways we cannot wait to see who wins tonight rams favored by six and a half matthew stafford we assume aaron donald we're assuming no puka kind of the way yeah that conversation has kind of been going what will they look like with aaron with out puka and what would the giants look like one week removed from just pounding the dallas cowboys into oblivion can't wait to wrap it up tonight monday night countdown starts at six boys back in the thunderdome good work boys have fun out there yeah i'm gonna have fun out there i got people telling me that uh they hope i get kirked on national television those people people just completely lying about the things that i say to put me into another war that i don't believe it it's it's been fun i would say uh to start the season got to see some new friends this weekend in oxford got to see some old friends down in oxford it's been a glorious time football is the greatest and uh we're all so incredibly thankful that we get to cover and it's all because of uh you that we get to do this shout out to the entire espn production crew who put this together big shout out to sofai and the rams for the positioning in which they put us here in the stadium i'm very grateful and thankful to be here and tonight should be spectacular 6 p.m eastern monday night countdown svp j mac myself handsome kelsey he's he's what the sexiest man on earth a couple years ago yeah yeah i gotta remember that that doesn't get talked hey tell him to kick slide again tonight for real he looks he looks athletic it's great how about a three yard kick slide i do believe there's going to be some jason kelsey aaron donald conversation so you might see him nice you know we might see him might see him a little bit of this and then swag i love doing television with that man i really enjoy the way his brain operates he's also taking shots at people on the internet which i like i didn't know we're still allowed to do that i uh i try to stay away from that because i'm weaponizing my followers when people say the rudest things to me and i respond and then my followers tell these people what they should do to themselves and then i'm the bad guy even though terrible things were said to me so shout to swaggoo attacking people so then i could kind of co-sign which i will continue to do go to batford for yourself swaggoo you're a legend and on that note football is the best con man who do you got tonight uh i will take the new york giants plus six now ty schmidt i am also on the giants plus six and a half oh man one half of the hammer done cowboys ap tone who do you got new york football giants plus six and a half geez holy hell nine-year nfl vet darius j butler who do you got new york football giants plus six oh no is this a team ride then a uh the other half of the hammer cowboys bubble gumpino who do you got big blue baby big blue oh no aj i don't know if you saw you had another good weekend picking games you're seemingly seeing the board very well you sit at nine and six me it's seven and eight so i can't catch up to you there was a couple uh deciding games you know me taking the eagles believing in them they get a win don't cover congrats to you believing in sala there i take the texans over the bangles you took the bangles because you played for them so i respect that the jaguars and broncos obviously a little bit different so we've seen it uh pretty similar but you're seeing it a lot better so i think whatever you say here might sway me because i can't catch up to you but aj who do you like how do you like it tonight on monday night football i mean there's no question where i'm going here i know puka is most likely not playing that doesn't make me feel great but if aaron donald's on the field even if he's not on the field give me the rams tonight minus six and a half at home absolutely are you doing that because of how much like the people around you are so on the giant thank god that's part of it but i don't you know that's the thing like when you really think about whatever any of us think it has no impact on the game but i i'm trusting my instincts once again i'm taking the round love the over okay you like the over okay i didn't expect that especially with aaron donald being back what is the over under right now 47 and a half give me the over two whoa okay yeah okay aj's doing two picks. I'll take, okay, because I can catch up to you then if you're doing two picks. I'll take the Giants plus six and a half and the under. Okay. Alright, boom. I can catch up to you. I like that. I'm not even doing that. Yeah, you open the door. I'm coming right on in. I'm alright. That's certainly what confidence can do to you. Alright, boys. I appreciate you all. I'll see you back in Indianapolis tomorrow. That's a long flight. Yeah. Yeah, safe travels. Last night we were just sitting in a time capsule seemingly in the sky just and then you look up. How much time is left? Two hours and 45 minutes. Bullshit. We're nowhere near this place. Then you look out there's the mountains and then the fields and everything. It's a beautiful thing to see our country, but we were up there seeing it for a long ass time and obviously tonight there's going to be good cause for the travels. Should be special. Should be spectacular. I'll see you tomorrow. 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