PMS 2.0 1616 - DK GameDay Wednesday with Peter Schrager, Malika Andrews, and Ryan Paganetti

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble to bow the draft Kings Thunder Down on this DK Gang Day Wednesday. This program starts now, football is the greatest thing that we are just one day away from college football week one kicking off. It's season to the national championship in Las Vegas tomorrow night. We have Colorado and Georgia Tech as six and a half point favorites at home. New quarterback obviously down in Georgia as Haynes King went on to the NFL. We saw him in the Hall of Fame game earlier and then Dion Sanders in the Colorado Buffs having a much having a much juju loose. I believe is the quarterback for Colorado. I've seen some speeches to the teams. I've seen a couple videos but it's been much quieter out of Colorado. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? We find out tomorrow you mass takes on big 10s Rutgers and you a B takes on big 10 Illinois. Now there's some big spreads not only tomorrow night but throughout the entirety of the week and for college football but we're back in this thing and don't look now unless it's at a flight tracker or website. Sure. The San Francisco 49ers are in root for their opening week NFC West depression game against Los Angeles Rams. We are actually in the air on the road to the NFL at this exact moment. So life is beautiful. The toxic tables here at Boston Conor and at tone dig tie. We love you buddy. Oh, yeah, I love you tie. There's draft Kings game day going on right now. Tone and I think whenever we heard draft Kings game day, we wanted to do ourself are the employees of draft Kings going to be playing against each other. That'd be cool. 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So Draft Kings game day has been a lot of fun for us to figure out what they're giving to us and we appreciate the fourth thought out of them thinking you know before the season let's go and give some shit away here. Let's go ahead and give some boost away to get everybody active. Let's go to the one half of the hammer. God Cowboys desk. Nine year NFL Vett Darius J Butler debuts big day not only in Draft Kings world. Also fantasy football world. You got a big time draft. I don't know where you got slotted in the draft order. I heard you guys were racing ducks online earlier. How do you feel about where you're at? And what are your thoughts going into fantasy football draft? I'm a fantasy football kind of noob. So obviously I wanted them more overall pick now big time leagues big league. We've got 16 people. So that be number one. I got to wait till the gets all the way back to me so that would suck. I ended up at 10 which I've been told isn't a terrible spot. I'm at 10 right now. So I've been putting together the board for the last hour and a half. I'm excited about this afternoon. 16 team league dirty drew 16. I don't know he must have slow ass duck out there. Nonetheless I'm excited to see what you boys do. How many teams are in that league? Commissioner Conor. 16 teams. I'm surprised there is a maybe 17 that does crunchy on the team in your league or not. Yeah. But I let you reach out and wants to be a part of it. Yeah well he is. He's got one everywhere. And I'll tell you what this crunchy team does. This crunchy family does. They win. Not only do they just buy teams and utilize it as investment and obviously live sports money is the money in sports right now. Everything else is kind of fallen by the wayside whenever it comes to ratings and relevance and everything literally in life at this point. So him having a team in their family having a team in every league basically is absurd. But what you need to know is like the Anaheim Angels. I believe they've had a losing record for 11 straight seasons. Yeah cool. It's second to the Pittsburgh Pirates from 1993. I was six. Okay. I was born 1987 in Pittsburgh 1993 to 2012. That's when Barry left. Okay. So that is the longest streak in baseball of having losing seasons consecutively. And people get mad at me for one-on-one baseball face like we had a pens and Steelers in there. Okay. So it's hard to necessarily pay attention to losing as Pittsburgh Pirates. Pretty good. Okay. As the Pirates weren't really investing in it. Now obviously my respect for baseball has grown vitally. I appreciate the relationships we've developed in MLB and I respect the hell out of what baseball is on that note. The Angels might have been asked. Okay. Angels fans should be very excited that they're consecutive losing seasons and with this family getting involved. The Pittsburgh Pirates people are wishing that what happened back at 1993. They wish that would happen a long time ago in what happened today. He invests in his teams from my understanding. Everyone in America. I assume European people like him as well. I'm not sure how he dabbles into soccer world over there. They invest. They know how to run the company. It's like they truly understand ball and they love it. And that Anaheim Angels have been asked. But you look at what happened with the Dodgers. Okay. And what's potentially going to take place there is a lot of money out. Do a lot of people and how's that all going to work out especially now with everything happened with Mr. Walter who was potentially just. That's assurance might we'll do it actually a little bit of this little bit of that. Hey we'll pay you till 2040. Of course. Yes. No problem. Boom. Bang. Boom. They're doing what anybody to do. Times out couldn't do that. Nobody else because they didn't have the ability to kind of raw Peter to pay Paul while also not saying anything. So what happens with the Dodgers? Who knows? Anaheim Angels. What happens here? I think what we know is going to happen. And if money can win you things, Kronki will invest. I mean he is proving that time and time and time again built so fight. Okay. So that is literally his stadium. The chargers are kind of renting in there. Let alone everything he's done and call the rato from my understanding this potentially a helipad on top of the building. Yeah. I mean like he is they invest in their teams. They want to win and they do well from our understanding. So congrats to the Angels and also to baseball. 3.9 billion about four billion dollars. That's obviously a huge price tag for a team that has had 11 years of consecutive losing seasons with the Los Angeles Dodgers right in the backyard who have every star on planet earth. My track might be the one who's potentially driving up this entire thing. Maybe angels in the outfield also has helped the evaluation of this. But I assume Kronki is going to get in here and do exactly what he's done everywhere else which is win. Congrats to baseball. Congrats to the Kronki family. And I'm thankful that we're in a time where this family is investing in sport and we assume multi billionaires are going to continue to try to do this as we've seen more teams go up for sale. They got to figure it out at this point and boy boy. Why couldn't they buy the pirates for 3.9 billion instead of the SS Angels in this particular case. That's what every team that is at the bottom of the MLB salary cap conversation is wondering at this point because they won't be anymore with this guy here. Yeah, which is tough. But let's need we just had him on to GM other Rams. And he said, Hey, we're way over budget. And if it wasn't for the Kronkies, we probably wouldn't have the super team we've assembled for the Angels, especially their fans. They're probably still kind of regretting and still in that mental. I can't believe this happened when show Hayotani left their team to go to the Dodgers and now getting this owner. This was the perfect encapsulation of a guy that wouldn't let show Hayotani out the door. So if you are an Angels fan, you got to be pumped. If you're a fan of any of these teams, like, Hey, jump over just follow Kronkie. I wish I had an owner where I could just be a fan of his team, no matter where you live. One of his teams. One of his teams you won't go all out of the corner. Arsenal. Yeah, Arsenal. Big champs, but once again, there it is. I mean, I wouldn't I didn't even know that they're the Premier League champs over in England. Is that the best league in Europe? They say? Ah, correct. It's not better than the MLS. Obviously, we understand that we assume he'll venture. We just saw Leo and those four goals he scored against Montreal. Yeah, Montreal. And we know what happened Montréal and Manchester United. Yeah, they won. Yeah, we think that game happened. Well, it's like the 100 and some point game. It just never see only here about it. We've heard about it. I don't know if they've heard about it over there. Not in the less. Of course, he wins. Premier League wins. Oh, yeah. I think his players, everybody in his buildings understand that the Cronky family is going to give us everything we need to win. And that's all you're looking for. I think that's all you're looking for owners and a lot of times stand out the way, you know, stand out the way letting people run the show. My introduction to the National Football League was the Patriots, you know, so getting the call from Robert Crab, then getting on the phone with Bill Bellycheck, and then getting in the building, you wouldn't necessarily know, you know, who was signing who's checks, you know, Bill clearly ran that show from top to bottom, and Crab just, you know, gave him support, gave him the team support, anything we needed. And that's all you want from me on, a comment I mentioned, unless he said, we're blew through that budget. That's what you want to hear when you're in that locker room as a player or as a coach trying to build your staff. Joe Pompleyano, who he and his brother are always on top of the business side of things, staying crunk is $4 billion. Angels purchase makes a lot more sense whenever you look at the fact that they own a stadium, 153 acres around it, and they ain't paying nothing because of the high cost of everything. The city's only made about 415,000 off of this in three decades. The Angels can also leave in six years, okay, so 2032-ish, then kind of get out of town, which means the city will then be left with an empty venue in these hundreds of millions of dollars in repairs, or they can sell a stadium surrounding land through Stan Cronky. That would give Cronky hundreds of acres in Orange County for a mixed-use development at a huge discount, okay, and he would be good. Genius. There's some of these people that are at the peak of business and they haven't figured out. And then there's a lot of durfuses that are holding chairs in pretty powerful positions of business that are just holding chairs and literally anybody could do what they're doing. Feels like the Cronky family is doing good. And for them, we say thanks for your investment in sport, Cronky. Cronky. Okay, let's talk about some other stuff happening around the football world tomorrow. Huge day. Massage. The conversation that we've had about college football over the last week and half has been. Our guys that we've seen in NFL uniforms going to be able to play in college because the five-for-five eligibility and then the injunction that followed in Louisiana says this one draft class has the opportunity to take advantage of the five-for-five, even though they tried out for the NFL and did not make it. They can come back and play college. It's been cooking down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Lane Kiffin came on this particular program and said, "These guys were kind of robbed of an opportunity that was obviously given and that's what Judge said. That State Court says and the NCAA has always had to follow what State Court said. But just like in the Soresby case where State Court said that he was able to play in Texas Tech, the conference commissioner came out and said, "Nah, we're not doing it. Katie, the Big Ten," said, "If you are in NFL or professional, you cannot play. Science, CO deliver, that's it." Now with that hold up against the State Court thing, we don't know. But it seems like the Big Ten hasn't had to deal with it much. The SEC with Lane Kiffin and the SLSU football team and the Texas injunction that says a couple of the softball players and obviously basketball players as well, taking advantage of this. Certainly a little bit heavier whenever Sanky comes out for the SEC commissioner and says, "You're not allowed to do that in our particular conference." So he says, "All right, you're going to go to court? What's tomorrow?" SEC says, "I believe court has happening tomorrow." I believe yes, I believe now, I don't know what that consists. I've no idea what that looks like, but I believe tomorrow there is a court thing happening. And then the rosters need to be put in place on Friday and it's like this is all happening in Baton Rouge and then we got college game day Saturday morning in Baton Rouge and then we got LSU Clemson 730, Eastern, down in Death Valley. So it feels like the next three days are about to be allowed buzz off chaos, heading into the biggest and best season yet. But what does tomorrow look like down there as SEC has its lawyers taking on, I assume, a judge that made the ruling down there and what does that have to do with the effect of what happens on Friday? It's like there's so much chaos happening in footballs right around the corner. This feels like college football and a nutshell happening right in front of our eyes, but I think there's a big precedent setting setter for the future con man. Yeah, it needs to know, especially just going into the season, but like that's the other thing is that since it is just a one year type of deal, like the future of college sports feels obvious, hey, this is five years you can play when you're 19 or when you graduate and you got five years to play, that's it. For this year, it is just kind of interesting, you know, especially because the football and the softball, because you mentioned the softball and the basketball players and it feels like that is kind of the angle of the teams that want to use the NFL guys for their football team. But like that just doesn't, it doesn't hold the same weight as the football. Maybe it's because football is so, so, so much bigger than other college sports around the country. And that's why everyone's just focused on that, but you wonder if the basketball players will cause enough of a stir to allow the football players to play. Pete, they have a report at last night that Tennessee Chance, they're Don Palman, president of the SEC's executive committee, tells the ESPN, the league will enforce its rules regarding NFL players trying to return to college. We are prepared to defend our rules and our authority to defend our rules. She has. This is not a rule we will budge on. All right. Show it. So it's more, it's going to be a little bit of a show that feels like everybody's kind of rallied on the same side in this case. Yeah. Yeah. This is just like with the Texas Tech situation. Everybody seemingly, publicly on the same side, even, I mean, and I don't want to say this because Drew Rose announced his incredible agent for his clients who he works for him even saying, like, this is not a desirable, like everybody kind of is like, this is not good. But then you start thinking about the other angle, which is you're going to take an employment opportunity away. Remember, because there's money to be made down in his college, so you're taking away money opportunity, financial opportunity for somebody, even a court saying that you're not, it's like, okay, and then the lawyers are going to lawyer, man. I mean, who know? The lawyers are going to lawyer heavily. So the fact that this got in on Thursday, hilarious, first of all, Friday rosters have to be determined and deemed 105 players per roster. And that would be, I guess, the real tipping point of if a roster spot's taken up an LSU by one of these guys, but I guess tomorrow has a big part of it. It's just, we're all ready for football to start, I think. But this is a huge precedent-setting thing for commissioners to have power over their own confidence. And it's reached a point, though, like for the fans that it's gotten so ridiculous, originally, like the five out of five for five in Colorado was like, okay, you can pay attention to that. Then it was the Louisiana injunction based off of what Colorado did. Then there was a Texas injunction, and then there was a Tennessee injunction where it's not like where the NCA is losing every single one of them. They're winning some of these, and then there was another injunction yesterday. So it's reached a point where it's impossible to keep track of. So that sucks for the fans, and then also just, you know, the whole NFL coming back to college saying the fans hate that as well. So hopefully tomorrow we have some answers. Yeah, hopefully tomorrow we have some answers. I'm sure we will. If you want stability, don't look at college football, show your Pete Thamel. And whenever you talk about the on-field play, LSU has reported that there's been more media celebrity credential requests than any time in the history of LSU sport. So whenever you talk about what football has capability of doing and what the season is going to do, we think it's going to be the biggest and best season yet. And we're lucky to be a part of it. Now, speaking of biggest and best season yet, ESPN just hit a grand salami, a moonshot. We're talking out of the park, out of the world. Ladies and gentlemen, it was announced this morning, thought for sure we were announcing on this particular show, but obviously that would never happen in the sports media world with how many people know things, but we are incredibly excited. Roll the footage, Foxy. Let's go. Yeah, Peter Schreger has officially been announced. Congratulations, Shreggs. We're happy for you, brother. Pat, you're the man. I had not seen that before, so that was surreal for me. This whole day has been surreal, but yeah, it was announced formally on this show just now. And those are the graphics. That's awesome, but it was leaked earlier today by one of the more vibrant reporters and sports media that I'm going to be having a show of my own on ESPN and it's with the whole team. And Pat, I'll be following you Monday to Thursday during the football season and then Monday to Friday outside the football season. I cannot freaking wait, dude. This is awesome. Life long dream. And we're going to kick ass doing it. We're incredibly proud of you. And obviously, said reporters always going to get its cheese, you know. That's how that works. That's part of the business. And if Peter Schreger is getting a show, I think it should be leaked and treated in a big way as it has been. I think everybody is incredibly proud of you, buddy. So what's this going to be? What's a big day with Peter Schreger going to be? We're going to get a little bit more of Peter Schreger breaking down the day's events. Top cool. We're going to have debates. Debates is a good sports type of conversation. Are you going to have guests on? How do you expect this to go? Yeah, the expectation is we're going to have a regular crew of analysts that are going to come through here in New York City. And Monday to Friday, we're going to have different groups of guys and gals. And we're going to hit all sports. And I know that sounds pretty generic, but we're going to do it in a special way where we celebrate the sports and we celebrate fandom. And we do it with a little deeper analysis, maybe, that we can do and use some of the best reporters in the business that are on this network. My vision is using the leaping off point of your show and your audience and then kind of bridging that to the rest of the afternoon and saying, let's bring the same energy, the same joy. We're in New York City. As you know, I've got a pretty strong role of X here. And the hope is that we're going to have a constant flow of in-studio guests and we're going to talk in a fell college football and B.A. NHL golf, all of it, and do so in a way that is upbeat, enthusiastic, and maybe takes a little bit of a piss out of it too. And we can have a couple laughs about the sports world also. I like having a little bit of a pisser out there, man. It's big day with Peter Schreger, Monday through Thursday is a 2 p.m. Eastern during the football season, Monday through Friday during the off season. Okay, let's talk about today's big day. What's a big day, big news with Peter Schreger on this particular day? I don't think it's going to be good, but I think it's going to be really good. I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good. But I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good. But I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think it's going to be really good, but I think ever been to Bristol until last year. And like, you have to understand, sports center in the morning, yes, like memorizing every line from Craig Killborn and doing all his bits as like a kid. But Chris Burman and Tom Jackson, with the prime time music and the nicknames and doing those to walk into that building and know that like, that's right, it was a surreal experience. It was like walking into, you know, like I'm going into the Vatican or something. It was crazy for me. And then to now be able to do it on ESPN, obviously it's unbelievable. I pinched myself, but that juice is still there in that building where it's like they still revere those days. And I so appreciate that. Yeah, they certainly revere a lot of things that aren't, you know, potentially new in a lot of those buildings. Yes, I understand completely what you're saying there. Maybe more so than anybody in the history. But we all feel the way this way about ESPN, like all of us, even the people that are going to inevitably roast you for having time on ESPN. Because if they had time on ESPN, what they would do for sports is how they view it. And I think everybody's massive ESPN fans, sports fans. And I think all anybody wants is for the best of all parties. And I think you're going to do a great job, Triggs. We're very, very proud of you, man. We think it's, it's a cool thing. There's not a lot of these spots, obviously. Now, people are going to hate that you have an hour or two. I don't know what is it. It's one hour. One hour. They hate it. I'm sure that's I'm trying to. Well, you're taking some agent, some agents clients time, you know? And I was pretty naive to this whole thing. Let alone, you know, having 10 hours a week that you have creative control of. You're taking a lot of time away from a lot of people that would want that. And they seemingly have a lot more friends, you know, that do a lot of this stuff than maybe you do. And you won't be paying it as this. But taking up any time from somebody else, there's always going to be people that are upset about it. Stay in a pocket. We appreciate the hell out of you. And you're going to nail it. You're meant for this. You're built for this, actually. But I'll tell you, the shins will get busted pretty good. Yeah, and look, like just to be quick on it, like I, you know, I worked 10 years hosting the NFL Networks Morning Show. I before that was at Fox for 10 years, schlepping out to LA every weekend, working on the pregame show. I've worked with the best of the best. And I've watched some of the best producers. And then to be a part of your family the last couple of years and see how you guys operate. Like, and you might want to attack the fact that I'm the one being chosen. But I've earned it and I'm excited to do it. And I want to do it in a way that's going to celebrate and take the best from all that. So I'm not running away from this. If anything, I think it's going to be a fun show. And I think you're going to want to watch it. So anyone who's upset with it, that's fine. Just give it a shot and you'll see. Yeah, man, can't wait to watch it. I don't know if we'll be able to live. We'll have to watch it back. But we appreciate that you are following us and we love you, Shraggs. We have some breaking news out of Las Vegas. Kirk Cousins has been named the week one starting quarterback Fernando Mendoza officially started their career as a backup. Now, this felt obvious in the second preseason game when Fernando Mendoza got the start. But they didn't have any of the ones offensive line. And Kirk wasn't even in shoulder pads. It felt like they were probably going to have Kirk Cousins be the starter for the regular season. They continue to say, no, no, no. We're not making any decision. They finally do. Congratulations to Kirk Cousins. And I think this is a good situation for Fernando. Obviously, to be able to watch and learn, the whole combo is when does Fernando get his first shot? Will Kirk have to be asked for that? Or is there a plan on how many games? Because we've seen fits. Get upset whenever it was handed over to a tool. Because he was not told what kind of what the plan was. Will Kirk be explained what the plan is? Or do they have one at this point? Shrek, you might know a little bit more on this particular case than we do. But I think they don't have a buy to like week 13 or something like that. That's a long time to wait if the number one overall pickback there, especially if the team isn't great. But if Kirk does great, we're waiting a long time. Is that what you think? Yeah, I do. And I think I came on last week. I said as much as this, like Kubiac and Genoka, who is running the offense. They have a history with Kirk Cousins. So he had a huge leg up on Mendoza and that he actually can come right in and it was plug and play. Mendoza's been great this summer. They love what Mendoza's been. But when you have those two and the familiarity with Cousins, they're paying Cousins real money, not minimum money, real money to be there. It was his job all along. And Mendoza's been aware of that. Now, when do we see Mendoza? I think these things usually happen rather naturally. And sometimes it's after the buy week and other times it's hey, we're a two and six team. Let's throw the kid in. We think he's ready and he's mastered the playbook. But as long as Tom Brady was a part of this and I'm told this year, he has been very vocal and it's been a part of it. They weren't going to rush their first overall pick to sell some extra tickets or to sell a jersey. They were going to make sure that he's ready to go. And in the meantime, Cousins, the hope is healthy, competent, can maybe compete and give them a chance to win a couple games. Yeah, and he's perfect for Fernando. Just like we think Signetti was a perfect tech coach for Fernando in college, just with personalities and how they counted Joe. Feels like Kirk and Fernando have gotten along very well, very quickly. I think Fernando understood that this was going to potentially be a reality from the very beginning. He gets a chance to watch and learn, which we know he loves to do. And they got some tough teams, obviously on the schedule, but it is the NFL and it is the AFC West. Now let's move to the NFC North, made some moves this morning and last night go ahead, con man. Yeah, straights. Last night, Patrick Furner, the Vikings. They bring in Calvin, Noy on the huge get. Let's go Kyle from two years ago. Basically, everyone in Baltimore said, hey, this guy is a fantastic team and fantastic player. But speaking of the Vikings, how do you feel about their expectations? It feels like everything in the NFC North has been kind of so, so for a lot of teams, you know, the Packers are dealing with Mike being on pop in some other situations with Josh Jacobs. The Lions, their starting safeties are both out. They start on pop as well. The Bears have their center retire kind of out of nowhere a little early and the Vikings are quietly just bringing in Kyle Murray, no real expectations. We'll see what happens. Do you think they're a playoff team? Because it feels like there's a chance the Vikings go on this sneaky quiet run with KOC just down it up left and right with B flow on defense as well. Yeah, look, they had terrible quarterback play last year and still one nine games. So the hope is you get an elevated quarterback situation with Kyle Murray in there. And the Kyle Van Noy addition, it seems like that's all right. He's a he's a piece. He's a Kyle Van Noy at some amazing seasons with the New England Patriots under Brian Flores. So he comes in and he doesn't need this huge ramp up. He knows that defense and he can play. I actually think the Vikings are one of the more fascinating teams this season. Lions, new offensive coordinator and a ton of new players on that offensive line. Packers you mentioned and then the Bears, the expectations are through the roof. Here are the Vikings, very little buzz, very little talk. And yet if you get a great version of Kyle Murray and you get Justin Jefferson and you get this defense under B flow who has always been good, why not? The two years ago they were the team. They went 14 and three and then the quarterback situation was in flux. So I love that division. I'm going to do my predictions probably next week. Seem the Vikings as such a distant fourth. That doesn't seem to add up with how I see them doing. I think they would be much improved this year from last year and they weren't that bad last year. We're happy B flow in Kyle Van Noy seemingly back on good terms, because all the magic they were able to create together up there in New England. And I'm much like you. I think B flow is always going to have a good defense. And if Kevin O'Connell has an opportunity to be able to complete passes, I think the offense is going to be good as well. Yeah, Justin Jefferson is still good. Uh, yeah, yeah, Kevin O'Connell is still going to scheme him up to be wide open somehow. He had 180 yards in the first half. Think about that. They're going into the game, D, but you would tell me better. Game record. Who is it? 18. Yeah, you won't miss him. He's got a grill, massive chain. He's going to be the guy that everything's going to go through. He is not going to, he's not the one that's going to ruin his game. Can't be this. 180 yards, two touchdowns in the first half of a game. It's like, did you even know the guy was on the team? And it's like, they do know, and what KOC is able to do with him unbelievable. So if Kyler can be anything towards what he was when he was playing great plus 450 over there. And he has to know it does seem nice. Let's stay in the end of see North. Go ahead. Yeah. Strikes. There's just been a couple of things this week. Kind of with La Flore as a play caller and a quarterback coach. I heard Malik Willis say yesterday that La Flore taught him out to be a great quarterback and taught him. Like, you don't have to make a huge play every single play. And then that triggered something in my brain. Dana always talks about how he kind of doesn't have constraints on Jordan love, but tells Jordan love to be very, very careful with the ball. And then Jordan love was an OC and scored 400 points in the fourth quarter of the final preseason game. Is this the year maybe that, you know, La Flore lets Jordan love spread his wings a bit and that that packers offense can take them to places they have not been yet recently? Look, it's going to rely on a lot of different factors. He said the, obviously, the Jacob situations and flux will see about that. But they, they lost two receivers that they really liked and, and dobs and on TV and wicks. So now you have to see Matthew golden step up. You've got to see other guys step up and then craft has to come back healthy. This Jordan love story, it feels like we're in your 20 of saying he's knocking on the door of being one of those guys and then he gives you these glimpses and then there's other games where you're like, Oh, he's, he's at next year. That's fine. The hope is with La Flore who is the only offensive coach he's ever worked for. The hope is that in year seven or whatever they are right now, year eight, I don't know, he's 2020 with the draft, so year seven is that this is the year and that he shines. I mean, I've picked love to win the MVP multiple times prior thinking that that was the year. So his last game, we saw him played great against the Bears in that playoff game. He didn't do that. He didn't do anything wrong. He played fine. The issue is can they do it week to week and can they do it without two of those reliable receivers who he had grown to love? Let's pivot away from the NFC North. Scott of the AFC North, Joey Porter, Jr. had this to say yesterday whenever he was asked whether or not he was going to be playing football at the beginning of the year because he hasn't done anything yet and it hasn't become a massive story. But if this carries into the regular season, this is going to be gigantic for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't know how I got to talk to the guys up there to my evening about that one. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. There's an as agent. We're going to. going to say hey no deals getting done you should play or is that the guys upstairs and his agents getting a deal done and then he's going to play Omar Khan Pittsburgh Steelers General Manager has come out and say we will still continue to be how we've always been which is we don't negotiate contracts during the season. Steelers have been pretty stingy I would say in contracts whenever you ask for it during the season they have done some things that they haven't done in the past they paid DK Metcalf 30 million a year he's never been a Pittsburgh Steeler. Obviously that surprised a lot of folks the way that got handled they bring in other players on defensive side they've made some trades Omar Khan certainly operates different than Colbert who was the GM for a long time but it feels like is this getting ugly shrugs what do we know about that because that sounded like if I don't get a deal I'm not playing but it could also be they telling me no deals going to happen and I'm playing so how do you see it doesn't sound great doesn't sound great but you still have a situation in New England you know you still have players that are viewed as different level caliber corners at the moment then then him so there's other things that maybe have to happen that Khan is kind of waiting on look you'd like to think with this team and how they're built with so many veterans that everyone's on the same page but I'll tell you eight days before the start of the season nine days before you know they kick off whatever it is this is not the headlines you want to be talking about not when you've got a quarterback who's 42 and you've got Kim Hayward and you've got TJ Watt and the other guys you're bringing in are not just rookies you're bringing in guys like Jamel Dean like champions who have been there and done that this team is built to compete this year so in Porter one of the bright young stars seemingly unhappy it's not ideal not ideal I don't think it's a desirable situation for the Pittsburgh Steelers but if they're able to figure it out obviously that's good Mike the Fahbo is has a video from training camp practice moments ago Omar Khan and Joey Porter Jr. at the beginning of the Reloops you will see a dapple at the beat boom they shook hands done done deal okay Danny say hey what are you doing it's got his helmet got his sleeves rolled up it does appear they're doing special teams practice it appears on the field so the fact that he's not doing something right now does not mean he won't be doing something later how do you kind of read this D but we think a deal gets done and Joey Porter Jr. talking to the media and being present and being there makes me think this is good news okay like something positive is happening where he says I'll talk to the guys upstairs of my agents maybe they just say like hey no deal is possible but man it's hard not to think like I'm still just gonna have to give Joey Porter Jr. deal or they're gonna have to trade him and get a deal somewhere like what is going to happen with Joey Porter Jr. is their best corner technically has to play because he's under contract for this year I tried to hear that that's that's it ends right there and then he can also be tagged next year as well but you did mention cam Hayward and TJ Watt to the veterans on that defense they have done that done this in a similar situation the last two years and got paid right before the season so it could be a similar situation to that but you talked about Jamel Dean and Sante Samuel Jr. has been good but you want your number one corner out there to go with those guys and then Jalen Ramsey and Brisk or who they brought in on the backside yes you would like all these pieces to start week one of the season so we can just play and you're naming veterans like these are not young guys so when you're talking about Ramsey and Brisk or comes from the Bears who's not as you know season to player but these are guys who are built for 2026 let's make a run at this you know we have Rogers for this season let's make a run at this and tone I think you said a little something we were talking about like always under contract this is not a fan base that historically has been pro player in these situations ever cam Hayward dad just like Joey Porter cam Hayward dad legend in Pittsburgh obviously legendary family in Pittsburgh throughout the entire even the brother so when cam Hayward after making all pro I think he was all pro he was like 15th or 16th highest paid interior defense alignment maybe 17th to 20 way down yeah he's once again his entire he has given millions of dollars back to the city his family has been a part of this is the whole thing okay so the whole thing he didn't show up for practice and what was the reaction okay you're pretty lucky you're in Pittsburgh still yeah I'm I like the you you're a little long in the tooth me doing what you're doing all hey your corner man let's need just gave you guys a playbook you played passers pass catchers pass rushers and cornerback ones pay this guy he's going to his prime he's done everything right on the field and off the field take care of a place of football yeah that's a tone said let's just get to the season here and play football because this has been happening in the off seasons for the Pittsburgh Steelers the last few with a lot of their veteran players let's assume it gets figured out Joey Porter Jr. though his name is becoming one I think synonymous with being a really good player which is good through this entire process yeah having to be like yeah actually if you look into it he's nasty he's got really good the market set too he's really there's been a lot of deals already done cornerback deals could probably figure it out pay him all pay him all that I want every player to make one billion dollars that is where I stand that put on the ticker I don't know if that's how big day shrugs he's going to be talking but you have to everybody uh let's talk about older player kind of earning his stripes almost he had again uh go ahead D ball yeah talking about earning it New York OBJ you talked about a couple maybe last week maybe the week before that about him potentially making a 53 man roster and he did he was definitely excited about it but what do you I think his role will be with this Giants offense and the rest of that white receiver room as well obviously from league neighbors Derry Slayton and the rest of the guys well it's interesting because when I was talking two weeks ago they had just gotten back from West Virginia and all I heard about was how low maintenance and amazing leadership that Odell Beckham showed 14 days at the green briar with those young guys and kind of being that senior leader and I'll tell you I've been around Odell he is a superstar like no other New York City even in 2026 he can go to Europe and there's a hundred people who are going to follow him and take paparazzi shots for him to just get his lunchpale show up to camp and say I'm going to earn my spot on this team and I'm going to do it playing whatever role you need says a lot about him but also about Harbaugh and what they're building there now you look at that wide receiver room this isn't some novelty act or some feel good story so they could sell a couple jerseys they need him to be good like he needs to perform and the fact that he might end up being the three maybe the two at some point makes me a little concerned about the wide receiver room that it's like no that's a negative way to look at it you know but he but let's see if he can be that guy because for whatever you want to say about one Dale Robinson he played a role last year and that day was often so much so that they will pay them the table in the tight and pay them 18 million dollars to come about as they are Hodgons doesn't make the team they have him they still have Daria Slayton like they still have guys that are there but this is basically Malik neighbors and who else wants to come aboard who else wants to step up because I'll tell you in the preseason and training camp one of the best stories was Malachi Fields who's a rookie third round pick and I'm not sure they're ready to put him at that number two spot just yet I like the no doubt Beckham Jr. has worked his way back into a roster spot in the NFL I think at this point of his career in life I think he has real excitement about every single day you never know when the last day is going to be where you're in an NFL building amongst greatness which is what the NFL is I may or may not have run into oh though Beckham Jr. in a wedding oh I just how was he kind of coming back to me now long night good night he said I got something I feel good it was like super positive interaction it was like a super positive super felt like he was going to work his ass off like I don't remember the exact words pretty loud I think Paul McCartney said I'm joking but I can't believe Bruce's wedding was so elaborate yeah Othell and you had Paul McCartney there's a tough yeah I was I was it was interesting the way when Bruce actually did film a movie in Croatia for you so I don't know you have seen if you see the magazine to I think Vogue Croatia did an entirely yeah literally I think it was Vogue Croatia and then there was their Ryan C. Crest E in relation thing and they're like look how nice this wedding could be and I'm looking at it Bruce's got like a full yeah full pose I'm like damn Bruce no he's going to inherit a billion dollars yeah I'll tell you what the person and the family he's going to inherit from from my understanding legend I need to get around that lad as soon as possible it's a long flight though certainly a long flight we'll have to pick it up on a jaunt someday my question for you strikes is who's going cerebral so I will say this okay don't pick your buddy kind of a big sway there wasn't it it was it was kind of a big get out of the way yeah get out of the way I have never seen a team have the hype and the bandwagon as full having lots two of three games to an opponent in their division in the history of this sport from the year before the Rams hype and bandwagon is out of control it's spilling over with whoever and whatever the sea hawks are sitting up there very quietly in their pacific northwests haunts watching as everyone else talks about the Rams as they bring back JSN the happy extension and they bring back Devon with her spoon with a happy extension and they bring back letter to Williams and Shaheed and Hall and bring in a first round running back who they're very excited about so as everyone is going and everyone assumes I'm just going to be what's the term the kids use glazing Sean McVeigh I don't love I don't love any bandwagon where we're doing segments on the morning shows the Rams are the field that doesn't feel right with the NFL let's not forget about those Seattle sea hawks and their madman of a coach mr. Mike McDonald yeah I've been watching hard knocks we all have and I actually picked up the sea hawks as my NFC team yep I am they're my NFC team after watching hard knocks just because the way McDonald operates, you're talking about a being a mad scientist on the Xs and O's on the defensive side, and obviously boom for his leadership's awesome. I mean awesome. In a way the boys respond to him is I really like their respect. Oh turns out I run this fucking practice to the player and the player just like, come on man. Like they're call a star player. Like he does that and they all respond. Yeah, respond. It's not like disrespect. It's the the relationship you have to have with your players to talk to them like that has to be real. Like a lot of people see the videos of like coaches being hard on their players or whatever. It's like that doesn't happen if you don't have like a working relationship with the person. So I think a lot of investment. It takes a lot of energy. It takes a lot of empathy. It takes a lot of to get to that video of him saying, oh is that right? In front of everybody, you know, because that could be considered embarrassing somebody disrespectful, especially with all this shit, especially after winning a Super Bowl. Egos get out of the control. Richard Sherman was talking to Coach McDonald about that to begin with after they won a Super Bowl Legion of Boom quarterback Russell Wilson gets money who gets money who gets money McDonald's like, I don't know what that means. Yeah, we're just we're just doing football. Well, he's so dialed in. I talked to him yesterday and it's like he's just like, I'm ready to kick off right now. And you know, he's he because this hard knocks has been a great a great a great visual of what he brings to the room. Now, I don't know if you saw this. I posted it on Instagram because I loved it. He, you know, everyone else wants to music go into high school as a kid. He downloaded old episodes of America's game, which is the documentary that NFL films used to put together of all the different Super Bowl champions. And when everyone else was living to like Eminem or Little Wayne or Blink 182, whatever the hell was popular when he was driving to high school, he would listen to episodes of America's game that he would memorize word for word, knowing Mean Joe Green and Tom Brady and like that's what his hobby was. He is football obsessed and he didn't play college football. He played high school football and then batted around for a long time trying to get into this coaching thing. And he was this close of being an accountant and not an NFL head coach. And he got a shot from Mark Rick that Georgia. And then of course, Harboh, his stories awesome. And those guys, he's so transparent and honest and authentic that it's hard not to want to run through a wall form. He missed a lot, man. Get Richard Dye trying was in that era unbelievable. 50 cent had such good music in that era. And he was listening. So Kanye and Braggio. I mean, you talk about that area. You mentioned Wayne, Lil Wayne. I mean, we we was on every song and it was amazing. T-Pain had to run through that. T-I. T-I definitely won crazy. G-Z won absolutely to probably play. Guys, I'll go boot with the fur flow rider that had a couple hits. I mean, this was a good one. Still bring it down. We like to stay loaded. We do. M-I, we're trying to let it work. Come on. Yeah. That's some 41 Mike. Who? Blink 182 was back there. I will be easier. McDonald needs to figure it out though that he's a lot of the listen to like iconic music. I think you worked out. Yeah, I did. You don't want your coach. He's listening to Johnny United's talk about Super Bowl. I mean, it's what we're talking about. I guess it makes audio. It makes sense. What he is. Good luck with big day. We appreciate that and ladies and gentlemen Peter Schringer. Yeah, it's very cool. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now live from the US Open. She's the host of NBA today and also an analyst of tennis and many other sports and absolute weapon. Ladies and gentlemen, Malika Andrew. How you doing? Making my, making my debut on the Pat McAfee show today. This is a big day joining you from my hotel room in New York City before I go out to the US Open. I'm good. How are you guys? Great. Okay. So let's talk about that hotel room. I mentioned this earlier. I said I talked to some people at ESPN and they're living in a hotel for 22 days for this US Open. You were that human. Okay. So thank you for your commitment to the US Open living in a hotel that long. Can you tell me about the tournament thus far and let's act like I don't know much about tennis. I watched the big stars playing like Coco last night. Let's go. Coco. Let's go. Ben Shelton two nights ago. I saw that Roger Federer obviously doing some trick shots. What are the storylines that are kind of developing over there at US Open from a little bit better tennis perspective than what I can deliver? Yeah, let's start right there with Coco Gough, right? Because she was awesome last night, Pat. I mean, this was just an incredible match to watch and she looked like she was already informed. But on the women's side, this is a really exciting tournament because essentially we could have a new world number one after the US Open. So there are four women right now that are competing for you for world number one and Coco Gough is one of them. Right now, the world number one is Arena Sabalanka. She's been world number one for 98 weeks. That's a long time and she has to win the US Open in order to stay number one. She's won the last two. She's going for a three-peat here at the US Open. Coco Gough, if she wins the US Open, she is world number one. Jessica Pagula, another American who just won a little bit earlier today. If she wins the US Open, she's world number one. And then there's a fourth Elena Rabakina. You can see right there. She's actually on Arena Sabalanka's heels for world number one. But she has an injury that she's been dealing with. Cap Achilles, she doesn't look quite right. Andy Roddick said yesterday, he doesn't think she'd be playing in this tournament. If world number one wasn't up for grabs. So on the women's side, it's not just winning the US Open. You could be world number one walking away. And there's two Americans that are in the run for that in Jess Pagula and Coco Gough. I really like the way Coco is playing. Like she has a real chance of winning the US Open. And remember, so she won the US Open in 2023. She won Cincinnati in 2023, the lead up tournament, and then won the US Open. This year, she won Cincinnati. So could history repeat itself? Yeah, it feels like that's a good indicator for me if you win Cincinnati, when the US Open, I like that storyline for Coco is Pagula. That's Buffalo Bills family. Yes. Okay. All right. Exactly. So we got Buffalo Bills. That's just Pagula. We got potentially the Buffalo Bills is number one women's task partner. I like that. That's the news. They just put those bikes in there. Okay, let's go to the men. I saw Ben Shelton the other night. Obviously, he gets cooked in the first set, six, one. Then he comes back set to and wins three straight. It got late. Obviously for him, a lot of people said she shouldn't have taken it along. Maybe he started bad. What should my realistic expectations be of Ben Shelton? Because I met him in Atlanta with Trinity. Great combo. Love how competitive he is. Like his aura. I heard him saying some mean stuff to himself at the end of this particular game when his backhand wasn't working. He was like very mean to himself. What are the expectations from the men's side? And can Ben dance a little bit here at the US Open? No, Ben's got some power. I mean, he was clocking 140 plus mile an hour serves, and that's the thing with Ben Shelton. It's the power, but sometimes I wish, okay, could you take 10 miles an hour off of it in order to maybe have a little bit more control? That's what we were seeing in the first set that you mentioned. And then he really settled in. So Ben plays a little bit later today. He's coming up in any minute now. He should be taking the court against her cause. Who's another huge server? Ben has the opportunity to win this tournament. Ben Shelton is the number one American man. Taylor Fritz is another American man that I could see sort of being one of the last standing. He made the finals here a couple years ago. But Ben Shelton, he has the weapons, right? He just, we've seen him do really well in some of the lead-up tournaments. He's got the weapons to win, but we haven't seen an American man win since Andy Roddick at any major since 2003. So that's what the American man American man. Yeah, 2003. It was beaten. The American man has not won a major in 2003. Melika wasn't even alive. I was rocking kindergarten. Come on, man. That is okay, Ben, let's go. Let's go Fritz. Yeah, let's get going. Francis Tiafo as well as sort of in that conversation. But Carlos Alcarez is back. And Carlos Alcarez looks good. We were wondering how he was going to look. He hasn't played since mid-April. We saw him the other day. He's going to be playing tonight under the bright lights at Arthur Ash. Carlos Alcarez, after see, I believe he should be the favorite to win this tournament. Sasha's Verib is going to have something to say, but yeah, 2003 is for the American man. It's been a long time. Is Verib is the world number one? Learn that obviously in real time as I was watching him battle late into the night last night. Alcaraz has-- So he's the number one seed. Oh, number one seed. Yeah, it's kind of, it gets a little funky, right? Because Yonic Sinner is the world number one. He's hurt not playing. So this is the first time we've seen their play as the number one seed in tournament. You can be world number one, but not be the number one seed. It gets a little funky. Okay, so he's interim number one right now. Okay, okay, we got an interim number one right now in Zverev who had a late night battle. Obviously, if you're up at night, there's a tennis happening and it is electrifying. So I caught Shelton. I caught this one late night. I saw the world number one interim, uh, playing it late into the night. Obviously not expected this early. I think it's the first time a number one seed has gone that long or that laid in long time. Whatever the case is. Long time. Okay, so Alcaraz, we like him. Obviously, we love him. Yeah, but there was a name that we all know that kind of had a moment. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, I'm like, we were watching in the first round. It was very, very disappointing. Uh, we saw Joker go out. What has been the reaction to that happening? Um, and just the overall vibes after Joker went out. That was tough to watch. I thought we were going to get a little, you know, a little boot and rally because he hasn't had a good one of those. But Joker, which was throwing up early in that, in that match. And I thought that he was going to get back to himself, but he just, he never found it. That one went the distance. Five sets. The fact that he's 39 years old and he's still playing at an incredibly high level. This is the first time that we will have none of the big three in terms of no back joke of itch in terms of Rafa in terms of Federer since 2006 that there's is continuing to play on in a major. So this is sort of showing a new era of tennis. I was bummed to see that I was out just outside of Arthur Astadia when that was happening and there were fans that were all out in the courtyard. And you could hear an audible gas because I don't think anyone was expecting him to lose that match. We haven't seen him lose ever in the first round of the U.S. Open. He'd been 19-0 coming into this tournament. So, now the questions turn to what happens next for Novak-Jokovic. You'll probably take a little bit of time, but there is the question, okay, was this the last time that we saw him play at the U.S. Open? I tend to hold on to belief based on no inside information, just knowing Novak as a competitor that that's not going to be the case. But at 39 years old, you know, we're seeing someone like Gail Monfese retiring at 40, that's up there for a tennis player. Monfese, 40-year-old, jump cross. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we watched it. Got the win. Yeah, got the win. On his 40th birthday. Okay, happy 40th birthday to Monfese. So, he's been doing it a long time. I wish I would have seen him early. 20 years ago. Yeah, I feel like I could have had a hell of a ride alongside this Frenchman who certainly has a little bit of a flair for the tee. He's a little flair for the theatrics there. And then he gives a full all four sides. Yep, let me hear it. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, and you're welcome. Okay, and he turns, he does a full four even to his opponent side. I mean, I love this guy. I wish I would have seen him 20 years ago, but I understand what you're saying about 39, 40-year-olds, especially for tennis when speed and everything is such a big deal. I don't know how that joins hold up. I don't know. I don't know. You got it. You got to stretch the back. Oh, and erotic last night, we were, we were not even, he wasn't playing. We were just watching the five-setter that Zvera was playing. And he's like, I got to stretch my back just watching this because yeah, it takes something out of you. And by the way, Gayle Monfese married to Alina Spitalina, who is a top ten player on the women's side, vying for a title. So, they are a power couple in tennis. Do we think they play table tennis at the house like to these? They may pick a ball. Yeah. Maybe a little pickle. Thanks. May they say anything like me, though. I mean, you can't be, you got to, you got to go all out for it. You can't go easy on your spas, you got to try to, you know, you got to, Gayle's got to try to win, Alina's got to try to win. Oh, you're bearing, David, at the house. So, so when are you guys competing? Are we playing hoops? We doing, I mean, he's winning and he's winning in horse for sure. He's, yeah, he's off their nodding. So, he's winning in horse for sure. I need you to keep winning there, okay? Sounds like Malik is going to try to kill you and everything else. Let's pivot to the NBA, shall we? Debut has the last question for you. Great job, everyone covering tennis. I can't wait to watch the finish. But NBA, obviously, thinking about that little bit over a month away, a lot of big moves this all season, which I guess duo or even trios are you most excited about? Lamello, AE out in Minnesota now. Obviously, all the guys down in Philly, Miami, Big Fan here. Bam, Greek, free. Who are you most excited about going into this next NBA season? Yeah, I mean, it's got to be LeBron in Philadelphia. I mean, I'm really excited to see how that's going to shake out, especially because I don't, I don't think that is a move that necessarily means you're 100%. It's not, it's, when Kevin Durant joined the Golden State Warriors at his prime, it meant that a title was coming. There's still a real road here in front of the Philadelphia 76ers in the question mark about how much is Joelle and B going to play? How is he going to look alongside LeBron? Alongside Jalen Brown, not to mention Tyrese Maxi and BJ Edgecom. So I'm, I'm really excited to see how the East shakes out, particularly because like, I feel like the nicks, they're the real deal and the Indiana Pacers are coming back and healthy with Tyrese Halliburton, right? So I think that the East is really going to be a different beast. No, Celtics mentioned - I love it. - No, no, no, no, that's ESPN. Hey, listen, this is ESPN and B. - Everybody did. - And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Sitting on top of the couch. - It might be above 500, maybe. - Let's see. - You know, LeBron, it's crazy that the big decision was that he went to Philadelphia. He could be retired and throwing oops, or receiving oops on a yacht like Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. I don't know if you saw this. Life is pretty high, good for them. Don't be doing that on a yacht near you. - Relax, guys. - CP got up there too, CP was on the other end of the lob. He was, look at this, look at CP go. - Yeah, we like that. He's 6162, against next to the Giants, he looks small. Malika, we appreciate the hell out of you for joining us and have a great stay at that hotel for another month or so for the US Open. - Yeah, 29 days to go. - Oh. - Jesus. - He's a gentleman, that's Malika. - Yeah, Malika. - Yeah, 22 days. - It's a lot. - Brandon, or at the hotel. Malika, how you doing? You've been seeing you doing tennis curves. I'm here for 22 days. - You saw our whole wardrobe behind her. - Yeah. - She didn't really say that. Like, it's crazy. - I can't think about anything but a yacht. - What's that? - A yacht. - Good size, CP used a wave. Like, you know how a wave lifts you up. That's how he done. - Oh no. - Double jump. - He's been dunking sits high school. - High. - That is living. Congrats, and they've earned that. We're back on the other side. Be a friend, telephone, something nice. 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Obviously, college football is already here week one right here around the corner So now it's just about for team I and your players. Okay, who's going to be healthy for week one? Who's naming starters the Vegas Raiders They just named their starter what other quarterback situations are gonna get figured out what other players are gonna get contract situations figured out with JPJ So there are a bunch of important things but until they actually happen then they'll be news But I'm excited football is finally here. Yeah, it is finally here, but not before a court case tomorrow Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who I mean, I don't know How like if Ohio State goes through something does he also because he's former president and he is Ohio State legend If he has to sign up for all that type of stuff for sure college football national champion Super Bowl champion Ryder Cup winner former president Ohio ladies and gentlemen AJ hall We think football for you. I don't know if you guys have to deal with anything I mean Ohio State related. I'm not 100% sure, but obviously the what's that? No, just you know, we got for game one. They want to talk. We're worried about right here. Why what would you worry about? What do you think it? I don't know. I just read some tweets and stuff. I see stuff that you guys seem to be gaslight and all over the place I don't see really anywhere else like what watching post broke Yeah, so we're the only ones gas off the watch sure feels like it feels like All right, let's dump it. You don't need a full post so close. We don't need to be talking. Sorry. We care about national security Thank you. Nobody ever talks about that with us. Okay, we have a little range in here. Ohio State Buckeyes though. It has come out underdogs Against the Texas Longhorns week two. They are not the favorites. Texas is favored over Ohio State that line has come out That's crazy to think about especially with Ohio State being the number one team in the country But it's down there in Austin. It's gonna be hot. It's gonna be tough conditions in archbanging Potentially does what he did last year Which pile of football and maybe end up getting shut up out of high state bucket defense What are your thoughts on the Ohio State Buckeyes this year as we enter the season AJ? Well, I mean, I feel very good about where they are But this thing like especially in college football like there's a lot of turnover on some of these rosters There's definitely some guys that are stepping into defensive roles that haven't had full-time starting situations yet So we will see how they respond, but I like where they're at and talking to everybody around the program They seem to be very excited to get this season, you know, going julie insane with another year experience as well Archmaning with another year of experience everybody's talking about that So we think football is gonna be fantastic the first few weeks are obviously loaded and Yeah, I can't wait to get on the road. We got a full football tour this fall lucky for it Can't wait to get down to Baton Rouge and get started They're saying it's gonna feel like a hunter or so. I guess at some point during the show It's gonna be hot in the kitchen down there kind of court case tomorrow We assume a lot of lawyers gonna be showing up in Baton Rouge That's gonna be a pretty big ruling on precedent and what the future looks like for being able to regulate your conference and then Friday The rosters have to be placed 105 active rosters who will be on LSU's roster will be the big conversation Especially with what happens tomorrow? So we still got some drama and we still got some off-the-field chatter But Debo Swini says in berson that this is even a conversation and he's on rank for the first time long time And he's maybe going into a buzz saw that I certainly have not experienced in my college football world And I don't like talking like the deep history of college football because somebody will tell me how dumb I am And I don't know what it's like to be a part of this is a lot of noise heading into a city and into a state I think that could potentially have a bunker mentality feel and whenever you know an entire group is rallied like that That can be quite an environment that aura alone can kind of provide enough of a daunting task for a team To maybe fold or crumble But then if Clemson walks in yeah, because the amount of distractions and gets a dub college football season starts with the most chaos It could potentially have I mean yet these guys who've talked about Greg came on yesterday and said they don't have any pressure on them So that they don't you know you're coming in there. No pressure all the pressures on LSU to put up a bunch of points in the half This big debut lane kids and everything else that's going on so there is no pressure and the standard the standard is still pretty high I'm sure if you are if you sign up to go to that Clemson program dabbo He's been a winner. He's won multiple national championships there So he's trying to get back on the map. I'm sure he feels disrespectful So you talk about the the bunker mentality over there and LSU they said have that same bunker mentality over there in South Carolina Well Clemson so I wouldn't be I wouldn't be shocked if this is a game in the fourth quarter Let's go more to wide receivers very good very very very very good tandem So Kevazina headed at we shall see joining us now ladies and gentlemen We pivot away from college football and storylines to the NFL in deep storylines I want to make sure I get this right the man joining us right now is a super winning NFL analytic strategist and Game management expert who has spent over a decade with the Eagles Jaguars and the Raiders Well, he's on the headset with the Eagles He was in Doug Peterson's year They're Super Bowl winning year. They want for it 25% more than everybody else in the NFL on fourth down Obviously others would follow suit with the strategist in the ear of the head coach This man could potentially be one of the trailblazers in game management and weaponizing of analytics and over the last couple weeks If you live on X at all you've seen him breaking something down that nobody's ever thought of ladies and gentlemen I believe in asset and a weapon to the football community and to sports media as a whole this upcoming NFL season Ladies and gentlemen Ryan Paganetti How you doing appreciate you guys Ryan? I know you always do TV interviews Okay, I know this is this is something you're very very comfortable with as you've been an analytics guy in a game Strategist for the NFL for the better part of a decade Cape Cod hat looks good. Okay. Is that lobster up there? That's a lobster. We obviously got Cape Cod lobster. Okay, Paganetti Can you tell me a little bit about the game strategist the game management in the analytics department of this whole thing because now It seems very normal that somebody has somebody in their ear up top kind of talking to him when you were getting into this How did it start and how does Doug Peterson be a guy that says you know what? Yeah, I would like your ideas in my head So you know dog learned from Andy Reid. He was done. He was you know Andy's offensive coordinator and Andy had a guy named Mike Frazier who's a beast who kind of helped him out with that stuff And so when Doug got the job and with Philly, I was already there No, he offered the job to me to basically be that guy that was sort of helping him out during the game And it was really super beneficial that both how he roseman and Jeffrey Lurie were very supportive of analytics So they wanted to use the data at the time there was a lot of research that teams should be going for more four thounds And because Doug was not sort of an established head coach like his attitude on it was really good because some of the established guys Like what are you talking about? We're not going for four thounds so you know I think that that was a really big positive and then we started having success with it You know in 2017 and it got a lot of attention and you know we had the Philly special and everything and After we managed to win that game a lot of the owners and jams around the league were like what do we do? And like why are we not you know implementing this as well? So you really kind of see that season has sort of been a turning point for analytics use at least with like the game management When you go for two when you call timeouts But it was really cool to be a part of that and and even you know in the current era Like ones that were controversial maybe ten years ago like those are basically standard So it's really changed dramatically Yeah, I'd say it changed dramatically and I'll say your war on punning is certainly something I don't love okay Pies on I don't know if you're the driver behind you but going for it on fourth down Obviously, we had heard the story of the high school coach. I think in California They literally won for it every fourth down kicked an onside kick every single time one for two every single time they scored actual war on kicking and special teams as a whole but he had success with it in high school in the NFL Obviously field position such a massive ordeal when you start piecing together that we need to be going for it on fourth down There's still some fear to that or you are strictly a the numbers say 62% of the time you're gonna pick up the first down we should go for it How do you kind of view it and did it go a straight a little bit and is it finding maybe a little bit more level now? You think after like a 10-year run It was always a battle and a lot of the defensive coaches in particular really don't like it You know you go for fourth and one at your own 45 yard line There there might be a 30% chance the defensive coordinator is going to be facing a 45 yard field So you know in particular I even after winning a Super Bowl I've sort of gotten in a lot of battles with different guys But what I would say is that I Like letting when I worked with Doug Peters and I worked with Pete Carroll Like I liked having the head coach kind of feel like he had ownership in the sense that you know I'm going to provide data, but From that data they can kind of nudge in either direction like hey I feel really good about our online versus their D line or our center is getting crushed by this guy But eat what I tried to sort of communicate is even if you think we absolutely suck on offense a lot of these fourth and One's and fourth and twos are still strongly in favor of going for it So that was really kind of one of the starting points is really those fourth and very shorts that we were sort of going for Particularly over field goals and now you see like Ben Johnson went for a fourth and five from his own 32 yard line in the in the playoffs last year in the second quarter Which I've never seen anything like that except for in Madden and you know it didn't work. They actually came back in one but The it used to be you know you do that five years ago ten years ago Like there would be a lot of people calling for you to get fired if you lost that game So it's pretty cool like how things have sort of changed now some in some cases They're still going to be very controversial ones Dan Campbell had one a couple years ago against 49ers I think it was fourth and two. I actually my numbers were very slightly in favor of field goal I think one message that would be useful for the people listening is like there's actually variation in the models and some Models might actually say go for it month. Some might say punt might some might say field goal So you know, I think there's actually just like there's nuance and like who's the best coaches who's the best you know who's the best player evaluators I tried to say like you know there was actually talent in the analytics world and you want to have the best possible people because you don't want it necessarily go for a fourth and two at your own 38 yard line, but you know there's some some book told you to do it and and you do it and then you look like an idiot and you know you get criticized relentlessly so there's definitely a balance there that kind of has to be factored in. I like that you say like the stats person has to have some feel as well and what matters and what doesn't matter because the numbers can present any story. I mean you just said it right there. You can literally utilize stats and analytics for any argument. They feel I don't want to get too too much into your world, but it feels like in sports there's a stat or some sort of something for every argument, even if they're completely against each other and then definitely in the politics world we've seen. They have a stat number for everything on opposite sides like stats is on every team. What you're saying is being able to read the stats are huge or deal. Knowing ball is a huge or deal. You want to know when I found out that you were a football nerd that probably knew ball a little bit you posting what you did last night about what they do up in Gillette Stadium with the just slightly off uprights. Now the natural reaction is these are NFL kickers. So like obviously they know which uprights are the right uprights, but just why not just a little bit of a blur, just a little bit of a subconscious type distraction potentially some places we've seen it before they zoomed in on in the back thing. I appreciated you doing the research on this and then explaining about how this evil empire. Yeah, they might have been evil, but there also no stone was left on turn in trying to win the damn game. And then you look up some stats on this, which I assume you did. Embo says, including playoffs, visitors have only had 77% of their field goals. Okay, now weather obviously terrible. They used to have that wind tunnel, too, because it was wide open. So that's certainly a part of it. But maybe there is a little optics head game happening. And I appreciate you pointing that out. Is this something that we should expect from you, Paganetti, as we go forward? And how did you kind of dive into this one? Yeah, so like when I took over my role, you know, on the headset, doing the game management stuff in 2016, I studied every single team. And I'm like, I want to be the best at this. And the first person to go to or the first team to go to was obviously the patriots to sort of study. Because, you know, they have been doing it for really two decades. I'm from Massachusetts. That's why I got the Cape Cod hat. I'm in Massachusetts right now. So I went to a lot of their games. I had seen this to some degree during the games, you know, just from attending the games in person, but I never really had put it all together. And then I would I would watch all the TV broadcast each week to try to pick up on anything obscure to like communicate that to Doug Peterson into our gym shorts or whoever our coaches were. And I just came across it one day. And I'm like, this is like diabolical. Like this is it just looked so perfect in terms of like creating this optical illusion. And there's there's been this whole, you know, mystique around the patriots. And I just thought like this clearly seemed intentional. You know, I pulled up all the copies of when the opposing or when the Patriots were kicking field goals. This, you know, this visual. It was not present. If you look at the numbers, you know, in that time frame, the bell check was the head coach, the field goal, you know, conversion, make rate of the opposing team in Gillette was the lowest in the entire NFL. So, you know, I think there's definitely something tangible there. And, you know, I really studied them for everything. Like, you know, we everybody talks about the Eagles on the sneaks. The only reason they ran the sneaks is because we meticulously studied what exactly New England was doing with the sneaks in 2016, 2017. And we tried to implement that. And one of the analytics messages from that, you know, research that I kind of did I work with Jeff Stoutland, Jason Kelsey, that, you know, Doug Peterson was the patriots are going for these sneaks when there's an open ag app, but the data actually supports just doing it every single time. So in 2017, if you go back, we actually just started sneaking on like all these short yards ones were like, we don't care what you're in. We have the cadence. We're just going to go first. You know, I put out a tweet recently that got a lot of attention that No team since at least 2000 has been stopped on four straight sneaks and actually no team has been stopped on three straight sneaks on a set of downs. So, you know, I what people don't necessarily factor in enough is when the sneak fails and it's on a first, second or third down, you just have more downs and you avoid that nightmare situation. And I think the perfect nightmare representation is that game, if you remember, Ohio State versus Texas a couple years ago in the college football semifinal, they had second and goal the one, they tossed the ball out, they lose seven yards. And then they go, they went incomplete on third down and then fourth down was the strip sack for the touchdown. You know, it's at the end of the game, but when you run a quarterback sneak the bad outcome, even if you don't convert is almost always zero yards or, you know, maybe a half yard, like Tom Brady had the most sneaks and NFL history. He's probably going to get passed by Jalen Hertz or Josh Allen here shortly, but Tom Brady's entire crew had one sneak that was for negative yards. And that just sort of shows you. If you if you're looking at it this attitude of like multiple plays. So, you know, we would approach that. This is what the Eagles have done recently. See they get to the one yard line. Everybody in the Lincoln five financial field knows they're going to run a sneak like they're they're just going to do it. If they don't get it, they're just going to do it again. And I think that the sequencing of the sneaks is something that people aren't talking about enough. Are you one of the founding fathers of the push push. I I actually was not particularly involved in that aspect of things. I ended up moving to the job bars in 21, but I from my understanding, Stelton was kind of, you know, an anchor on that one, but interestingly enough, Bill Snyder is the first guy I've seen do it back in about 2015 and 16. I'll send you guys the video if you guys want to post it, but they yeah, Kansas State, they were they were lining up and I think they called it the clown car or something. They put three guys and in three point stances right behind the quarterback and they would just smash forward and they got it like almost every single time. And I think that was that was a little bit of the inspiration for the NFL version of it probably that came out about 2021. Snyder sitting out there in Kansas State gone, okay, anybody going to I did that. Tush plus clown car. Okay, clown car is the godfather of the push push. I love that. Oh, there it is. I wait. That was on a video game at one point. I think that was a potential option for a play brought it back this year by the way. Way back it. Okay. So it was an opportunity to do something like that. Yeah, fat. Yeah, he that's what Rich Rodriguez called it. Remember, he said it was people heavy attack touchdown, something like that. We call it our fat package, but I'm saying I'm not a lot of say that it's a pH. It's a pH, of course. But yeah, he said everybody on the field will be over 250 pounds, 260 pounds. And if you can't pick up a yard, what? Pies on here saying just don't again. Yeah, line up. Go it again. Do it again. Those types of things that are happening behind closed doors to become the best football team really put into emphasis. How any distraction could potentially put you behind? Con van has a question for you. Pies on. Yeah, Pax, you said that you're a Massachusetts guy. Actually, no, you went to Belmont Hill. You're a milk and cookies guy. I'm a BBN guy. Go nights, but I don't love that you're giving away all these new England Patriots secrets. It's kind of direct our attention elsewhere, maybe, but something you treated about was kind of sacks are on more of a quarterback stat than anything. A lot of times when a quarterback gets sacked a lot, it's like, okay, so those teams have the worst offensive lines. Can you talk a little bit about kind of the sack situation in the NFL? And, you know, what that is reflected upon when it comes to quarterback play versus offensive line play. Yeah, you know, I think I heard from a lot of offensive lineman on that one, which was kind of entertaining, but really one of the great misunderstandings of in the league is just the old lines get crushed every week. These guys don't even compile any stats and they still get blamed for like, you know, maybe 70% more sacks than they really should be responsible for. But if you look back at so many of these top tier quarterbacks, like Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, if you look at the year prior to them getting there, when they start, you know, when they're there, and then when they leave, there's almost always, you know, significant movement in the sack rate. So like, for example, I think Dan Marino, I'd like six years in a row that he was number one in sack rate, which was like crazy, but like, you know, Peyton, Peyton gets hurt with the Colts. The number jumps straight up, you know, Peyton leaves the Denver that it goes, it goes up Peyton arrives in, you know, in Indie, it goes down. Tom Brady, you know, has an incredible year in 2007. He gets hurt in 2008, the sack rate jumps dramatically. He comes back in 2009. It's super low again. He leaves the Patriots sack rate jumps dramatically. He goes to Tampa. Tampa had like several years in a row with very high sack rate, then it drops dramatically. And I think the idea that ultimately the quarterback has way more ability to impact if a sack actually occurs than people are really, you know, catarizing there. And, you know, I know you, I know you have JJ on the show all the time. He mentioned that, you know, he only got Brady basically one time in his career and to think of like a first ball at Hall of Famer that really just could not get to the quarterback at like, you know, for however many times they played each other. It really is the quarterback can, you know, understands the protection knows the weaknesses. He needs to have a clock. And a lot of these quarterbacks, they think that, you know, are sort of underperforming a little bit, you know, they might have decent counting stats like yards per tenth or completion rate, but the sacks are just way too high. And I think that that's something that people need to consider, like the full sort of encompassing of how the quarterback is playing is that, you know, some of these guys that are going to start this year, like over 10% sac rates. And that's just like not sustainable, both for winning games and also just from like the quarterback health. So as soon as you put that out, did you hear from every offensive lineman in history saying that's right. Thank you. That's right. Go ahead and say it. Pack it out of you. Yeah, it's you saying it on me. You're super genius. Yeah, this is on the quarterback. The guy we're paying 60 million a year. Thank you. I appreciate that, especially whenever you got Aaron Donald, Maas Garrett, fish kind of boys on the other side. Well, pack it out of you saying the good quarterbacks see that and they say I got to get this thing the hell out of my hand is fast. is possible, where maybe the quarterbacks aren't as good, I think they can extend a play, then take a sack, loss of yards, loss of down, and you're hurting your team, as opposed to just saying, we'll do this the next day, as we move on. I love what you're doing, Paganetti. I absolutely love it. And you talk about, you know, the quarterbacks, sacks, that being a little bit of a misconception. I think you nerds have some of those as well. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Ryan, I guess what's like a common misconception casual fans have towards the analytics department when it comes to the job that you have held, you know, wearing the headset and the sideline and all that stuff. What do people get wrong, I guess, when they think about it, talk about it. Us mostly. Yeah. Well, you know, I'd say there's some nuance in what the actual roles are, you know, like I was with Pete, I was with, you know, coach Peterson, and I actually sat in all of the game plan meetings, like, and I was, I was even assistant linebacker's coach and Philly as well. So like, there are some cases where these analytics people are actually coaches as well, where they understand the X's and knows. And I, I try to disassociate myself with the guys that are just like, know what all nerds and they say to coaches, an idiot should have done this and should have done that because oftentimes they are missing some kind of context. And I think that that's, that is definitely like where I've tried to differentiate myself is like, I want to be pretty good schematically. Like, no, I'm not going to be bell check or Jim Schwartz or Sean McVay, but if I, the more that I know schematically, I can sort of help the coaches and understand like, okay, they're not running this play because of this front or, you know, we can't do XYZ. We can't run play action, you know, under center play action against this edge pressure. Some of these nuances, I think, help me be a better analyst, but I continue to see stuff on Twitter where they're just like pounding the drum saying the coaches are really stupid. And like, a lot of these coaches are really good guys and they put in an incredible amount of time and what you see on the field is a lot of times like protecting their players and trying to do what's best, you know, to win the game and I think they don't get enough credit when they do that. That's like the PFF rankings and ratings, you know, the big complaint from all the players is, you have no idea what my assignment was on that particular play. Well, this is cover two, it's like, yeah, but our cover two for this week was a little bit different because we had a guy who maybe was 80% to your point about protecting players. This guy actually can't do that this week, so you're going to have to cover here. Nobody knows that. So I like to, in appreciate the, hey, we need a little context on these numbers as well as we go forward. I think that's good for ball pegs. Hey, I think you're good for ball pegs now. I'm going to, I'm going to let you know this as soon as we read your tweets and what you're breaking down, we immediately thought to ourselves, how can we take advantage of what this guy's telling us? Okay, how can we take advantage of what this guy's telling us and we're not the only ones are going to be thinking that let's go to one half of the hammer down Cowboys, AP tone tone is a question for you, pegs. Yeah, pegs. I love the way your brain works and I love the way that you break down the game and you talk about schematically and analytically because that's just the best way to do it. And immediately my brain went to, how can I benefit financially off of this information, you know, big betting show here, it's Draft Kings Day, it's a great day to bet. But is there something like in your research, I'm not sure if you've tied it to gambling or anything yet that people maybe should look towards or certain statistics that you think are more bench beneficial when you're breaking down game lines and stuff like that? Yeah, so what I'd say is like on the team side, obviously you can't touch any of the betting topics whatsoever. So like it's a sensitive topic, but I use the spread every single week because like I would generate basically a fourth down game book and it really would be dependent on like are we an underdog, is our quarterback in a place? So like that spread was factored and I'm very familiar with a lot of the numbers. One of the number one things that I think you guys could take advantage of is like taking a look at the consensus from these joint practices. And the idea being is that nobody cares about precies and anymore, I think like John Harbonne a couple coaches try a little bit, but for the most part, you get these guys just mailing it in and they line up in two formations and run a couple plays, you know, it's mostly backups. But joint practices are 1v1s and you get a lot of teams, they feel like the film is not being shown to the rest of the league so they might game plan that stuff. And I basically took like 15 years worth of data on essentially what the sentiment was out of joint practices, mostly from beatwriters, sometimes national writers, sometimes in these open practices, the fans are watching and when there was a clear winner in a joint practice, like that actually did have some, you know, useful power that season and how that team did against the spread. Great. So if you look, particularly like, you know, some, it usually correlates a lot of times with these teams that are pretty good on the online and D line a few years ago, the Eagles were kind of, you know, they were getting blown out in preseason, but the lines were looking great in these joint practices and a lot of the consensus there was that they were doing very well there and then they kind of came out and did a great job, but there's, there's a few, you know, some of it, there was a number of joint practices this year where there was like some kind of interesting nuances, like the Saints kind of beat up on the Jaguars on one, the most of them were relatively logical sort of matchups, like okay, the dolphins were really struggling in joint practices and, you know, there's some, some of the expected ones did occur, but once they're, they're also was like a few cases that were a little bit unexpected in terms of, you know, okay, like the, you know, the, the chargers kind of beat up on the 49ers. Now, was that just because the entire 49ers team is hurt because the substation or whatever else is going on? Oh, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not applying anything, but, but like the chargers looked pretty good in the joint practice setting and like, you know, the, you know, the Rams did a great job in theirs and, you know, there's, there's been a number of kind of interesting matchups that I think some people who just blow off joint practices and consider them like sort of useless, like I, I wouldn't necessarily be in that attitude. Like, I know the Texans were so dominant on their defense align in some of these joint practices that like it almost like ruined the practice and like, yes, we, we kind of knew they were going to be good, but that's just like another confirmation that things are pretty promising there. But if there's like anything to use, you got to think like the market maybe isn't totally pricing in like how these teams have done, you know, how they made the right improvements in free agency and the draft and like, you know, I think it's something that you can maybe keep an eye on. I think joint practices is good call because that's ones on ones there, you know, that is everybody's going. It's a reason why it's going to be a big part of the next CBA negotiation. I think you're going to have one preseason game. It's going to be a bubble game at the end. And then I think you're going to have teams forced into joint practices and I think the joint practices will be incredible television. I mean, if you just didn't all day, March Madness type set up other joint practices. People would be able to cover. I think coaches should be able to say, hey, we don't want discovered. We don't want this talked about. We don't want this kind of on the live thing. I think that's where we're headed. And I think the players know that that means it's going to be a much more physical camp than it has been with a preseason game model. But I also think we're going to be able to get a lot better intel potentially on the teams and how they're doing because if you're asked into a joint practice, you're probably going to be asked in a regular season, but maybe you'll get hot, let's certainly utilize that information early. Now, you talked about the Texans D line kind of reckon practice. Defenses are fascinating. In 2026, last question for you here from D. Bud. I was playing like that slot defender position, specifically kind of evolved throughout my career. What's your thoughts on that position? I know Caleb Downs. We thought he was one of the best players in his draft. He went 11, I think because of position of value. What's the thoughts on that slot position? You look at the last two champions, Cooper Dejean, Nick and me and Worry, Devon with this one. They all played in that slot. So what's your opinion on that building that through that position and the matter in that field? Okay. So interesting, Steph. Three of the last five years, the Super Bowl champion team was number one in two high presentations before the snap on early downs. And that's including if you just look at the first down. So that's Mike McDonald was number one, Vic Vandia was number one in 24. I think Raheem Morris was number one. But it's created these worlds where it's like the light box that player is going to have to get involved in the run game because that's sort of the way that you can get them out of these two high looks is to really be able to kind of thump the ball. And if you look at the Rams, they've been one of the teams that have sort of had a good counter to that because they're like very heavy with the duo run game. It's duo insert. I'm a little bit of a myth buster on the Rams 13 personnel stuff just because I think they ran the same exact plays from 12 or 13 or 11. And it really was just a matter of like what the injuries were. I think staffer was even interviewed last year and said or interviewed recently and said they didn't even practice 13 last off season. And it was kind of just something they did because of the injuries. But I think ultimately the counter to this two high thing, whether they start in two high and stay in two higher or they start in two high and spend down to one high, you've got to be able to get like north south in the run game and sort of threaten that and get them out of it. And the nickel is going to be involved in that. And you know, there's been a really big jump with different teams, you know, Balochek used to do it. Of course, Schwartz would do it. You know, Mike McDonald did it this last year. But what I would call as like big nickel is like these three safety nickel packages where you're a little bit better in the run defense than conventional nickel. And you can also handle like 12 personnel, 13 personnel, a little bit better versus some teams just like lineup and they're pure nickel defense with like a legitimate small nickel cornerback. And if I'm in 12 or 13 or 21 or you know, I saw some teams were playing 22 personnel in the preseason, which is kind of interesting. Like I'm looking to try to take advantage of that, make that guy tackle. And I think, you know, just assuming that those players have to be good coverage players is like totally incomplete just, you know, for where what they have to be able to do now. You talk about 22 personnel, you think about the giants right now, you got Stadibu and Ricard in the back and then two tight ends, including likely who can sneak out and do his entire thing. And then Jackson Darken run the ball as well. And see if these nickels and safeties and corners can tackle. Right. No generative. Jackson's another ground, Jalen Petri plays in their nickel. I was basically saying, yep, hybrid cover, let's see if they can see he's got the biggest helmet. The league. I'm trying. He's going to have to throw that thing around. Speaking of protecting melons, we hope you do. that brother yeah yeah we we need you nope not gonna say cuz it would be taking a wrong way we need you to protect that brain brother you're good for sports so we appreciate you so much uh AJ's first response to learning of your tweet about the field goals was uh good luck kickers this is happening everywhere now that was you said AJ isn't that kind of your reaction I wonder like do our other teams other stadium operations are they looking at this saying yeah why are we not taking advantage in doing this as well well some stadiums just have tiny jumbo trunks us and prom true we we live in in a city where that exists I was digging on this recently but there there was some kind of game operations update in like 22-23 where they they they did something to kind of limit this there's definitely a gray area in a bell check with still in the league I promise you he would have found like a way to capitalize on this but I I was reading the rulebook and I'm like I don't even understand necessarily what is that what is exactly allowed I'd love to see more colleges do it because it's like awesome like somebody had Squidward on the screen I think like Tarleton state the other day but just like doing something wacky there's probably like a psychological study you could do of like what would cause the most you know confusion that is legal I was kind of thinking if you actually had like a large target on the screen but it was like not in the center that that could really kind of optically really mess with somebody but you know I'm sure there's a world where people are maybe you know getting somebody checking out this tweet and coming up with some ideas of things that they could do there's a response to your tweet actually of like Oklahoma state and they put on their jumbo tron just a bunch yellow lines so you legitimately is like an optical illusion you couldn't I mean I hate it obviously yeah it was in the punters but I love it I it's uh one of those things about competitive people is if there's an angle they're certainly going to find it love it love everything about it all right Pags we appreciate your bro hopefully we talk to you soon you're great for sports we appreciate you opening up your brain to all of us really appreciate you know thanks for having me I thought you did good here man you know I know you're a little bit worried about potentially having to do this I thought you nailed it great hat the lobster hat yeah good idea great hot might be AI I didn't look at it as well as the screen is not so it's below you know it's first time I um yeah I I've got some some ideas that I think are better than that with the page where it's dead but maybe that's for another episode oh okay I we appreciate that ladies and gentlemen Ryan paganetti yeah Pags that was awesome I saw his last couple tweets I've seen him and then I like a red is bio what he was I was like this fascinating and then to feel go what I was like I like what you're doing here but and send him a message I'm like thank you for doing what you're doing what's this incredible for sport and I was like would you want to come on the show and talk about this get his phone number talk to him uh live television interview I don't call it so good I do for it was it was funny just to like go through that process with somebody who's certainly going to be a pretty big figure in sports media he is going to do very well for us this football he's not for us I'm talking not our show I'm talking football as a whole because he's literally been a part of all the analytics conversations that are inevitable here with decision-making processes literally every single week so I'm very thankful that he took time and I'm appreciative of whatever he figures out this season it makes us better fans I love the way his brain works because it's like it is a perfect combination of the analytics and he thinks about literally everything but then when he's talking about duo insert which the the Rams did a ton last year out of 12 and 13 and then being like yeah everyone made a big deal about them going 13 personnel that was just because there was injuries and stuff like that so it's not just analytics it's also being very very smart exos and those wise and that's just an absolute stud yeah I came talking about how they're it's not as if there are 32 analytics people and they all come from the same school like they're there some analytics people are much better than others and you know some analytics books are different than other books like I don't know why but I also thought that that was just kind of like a plan maybe one maybe two different books but him saying like yeah that mcdc going for it on fourth down in niners territory like my analytics said to kick it whereas someone else's would have maybe said hey go for this you know mcdc made his money made his hay on going for it on fourth down that was you know motor city Dan Campbell he was just rescuing it all the time like that was interesting learn about yeah the being able to read the stats in which stats should you present as gospel you know like there's a lot of power in the numbers in which numbers are heard in which numbers are not heard that's just like when people selective you know information for anything it's like well what's being left out here well normally the context so having somebody that understands ball while also being able to dissect the numbers is huge and this is why meena comms does well in the sports media world because she does know ball clearly with what she presents and how she presents it and it feels like her which is why she has been put on top of the stats world I think because she likes ball and knows the numbers it's like paganetti feels like he's those two need to happen there's a lot of people with rocks for brains football wise that are getting hold in numbers and having people make decisions that shouldn't necessarily be happening it's a very powerful thing not just in sports obviously if you present a situation and leave some key things out it can certainly be taken one way first maybe a complete opposite way stats and going foot on foot down certainly real in has to happen like right now it's a lot of power that headset has a J yeah head coach has to have a bunch of trust in that person especially they weren't headset that are talking to throughout the game I would just like to see how many times like head coach I got I get I understand what your stupid book says but you know there we can't walk their three techniques we're not going for like I would imagine there's some there's some give and take there I'm a I'm kind of mad we saw his face faces we should have had like an animation maybe want to be on camera he likes being behind the scenes maybe we should workshop that for next well there was a shade of top you know it was like a little bit darker I don't know if he left something over top of the camera that he's never used before like maybe there was like a film or a screen on top of it because it was but through your point as he was talking I looked over there I was like if he was like a deal or no deal banker or silhouette yeah that would actually be pretty dumb I mean how do we know if those his face though you know that that's the other thing is how do we know that that's actually what it looks like or if he was yeah because these things got big brains big brains they know how to program stuff they know how to kind of make things look differently than these things super genius smart people I think you call them out a hybrid like he was part of the school he went to there's no joke and I got some big brains over there who's that Vanderfield Yates right Vanderfield Yates from there too but I'm talking like oh shit that's fantasy questions oh back there was a zoom can't fall back and also that might be the last time he just destroyed that computer like water boar stress no way no way destroy the chips now we're ever going to see from him here I thought he was great that's a good piece of information tone digs did not write a book this off season what you didn't write it did you the gambler's guide I did but it sucks so I just didn't bring it up okay so I appreciate you putting the effort in right in they're not publishing it or whatever there was a couple of potential lawsuits last time we did this as well I love the previous ones me too me as well there's some people I wasn't happy with it yeah there was some people that were just oh no did not know they were going to be in there or have pictures in there and use their imaging in there so we had to take that thing down pretty quickly last time we would say potentially New York Times best-sellering author of college football four to go tone digs put out his first bracket and ladies and gentlemen here it is as we sit just on the eve of college week one kicking off tomorrow night with Colorado taking on Georgia Tech here's what times college football playoff prediction will look like G 16 probably Memphis if I had to guess could be boys you there's a couple other squads that could slip in there taking on Miami LSU taking on Texas that's a good one dinosaur Oklahoma Texas Tech now we're talking Cowboys taking on Cowboys Ole Miss and IU round out the field quarter finals end up being Miami Oregon Oregon gets the win takes on Georgia who beats Texas Notre Dame beats Oklahoma and Indiana beats Ohio State again sorry AJ final four Indiana Notre Dame all Indiana semi final is Georgia takes on Oregon all big 10 national championship Oregon takes on IU with IU going back to back says tone digs tone reports at a camper that Hoover's spinning it yep and is that why you like the IU Hoosiers is it because you like signetti why do you have Indiana going back to back with all these other fantastic teams on the docket yeah it's it's crazy like because you talk about IU and you know they talk about how perfect everything was last year I think the roster maybe besides Mendoza because we don't know yet about Hoover could be better because they bring back four of their offensive linemen they lose Pat Cougan but they bring in an offensive lineman from Wisconsin who was really really good they haven't a ton of their entire defense of lineback plus more additions that they got in the portal plus two more that they may get back with an injunction in a certain state though I think the wide receiver room is more electric more explosive so we'll see in that instance like but they they retain older coordinators all the Brian Haines is coming back shane hands coming back as their OC I just think like yes I had them as the seven seed because I don't know their schedule is tough we'll see what happens in the regular season but I figured like once it gets to the playoffs and the rubber meets the road I'm not betting against signetti I it's just not something that I want to do right now hard to do and he enjoyed last year's national championship in a negative amount of time you know like I think even whenever he was up on the stage and the confetti was flying he was holding a trophy he was probably in the back of his mind going we got to do this all over again next year like right in that moment and then he obviously has a chance to kick off the NCAA video game with his speech and how people are talking about his old speeches being maybe one of the greatest leaders of our time and how he goes about doing his business, he's gonna have the boys locked in. And we talked to Charlie last week, he didn't even wanna talk about last year at all. Yeah, right, we're on to this year, we're on to week one against North Texas, and that is how we're going. Seems like the right mindset to have if you're in the middle of building a dynasty. Deepon, how do you feel about Miami losing in the quarter finals? - I hate it. - What? - And because of it, I hate this entire bracket. It all stinks. But yeah, I mean, I don't like it. You know, winning games, you know, it gets the group of 16 and then losing an organ, hate that. I think Miami. - It's gonna be a close game. - I think what's the ball not losing an organ. - Not at all. They got better. - He's been there. He knows what an organ's about. - They got better at quarterback. I mean, I think we obviously lost edge with a Meshador and Bain, but I think we got better in the trenches, offensive line, the weaponry outside with Malacan, the boys. Fletcher came back in the backfields. Well, I don't like that. I like them to be a higher seeded as well. - Well, that's an 11-1 Miami team and they're only at five because they lost a Notre Dame in the regular season. So that, I mean, they could be an undefeated team if they win at Notre Dame. The one through seven, good luck to the committee. Okay, good luck. - You think it's gonna be crazy this year? - The one through seven, I am very, very high on Georgia. I got them as a one loss SEC champion. - Notre Dame undefeated. - Congrats to them. A lot of people say. Now, the Notre Dame people aren't happy that that's being talked about, but their schedule is rather easy. They're not the only ones though. Team you didn't bring up, Penn State. They obviously are allegedly have a good schedule as well. Rocco Becht, very experienced quarterback. Matt Campbell was obviously a winner. Goes in a Penn State. You don't have them making a playoffs. - No, so it was, it was, do I put the 11 as another SEC team for a fourth Big 10 team? And I just, it is year one with Matt Campbell at Penn State and the schedule is nice, but I like, I like Oklahoma's team better than I like Penn State. - Ohio State doesn't even make the final four, AJ. - Whoa. - They won the Big 10 Championship. It's just, you know, it was a, it was a slobber knocker in that Big 10 championship and they're walking wounded going into that game again. - But they have two months until the game. - And how you does it again. - Wow. - It gets them again. - Well, I can't believe that happens. - Julian Sain again. - Yeah, Big 10 Championship. - Big 10 Championship. But, you know, AJ, you okay with how this is all gonna unfold? - It's exactly where we want to be. We want people to doubt in here. Come on now. What are we talking about? This is, it's all speculation. Everybody feels great about their team. Everyone got better in the off season. Good luck. We'll see. - One seed, four seed, three seed in the semis. Only one team is one off the buy. And that was IU last year's love be much different. Having three teams winning off the buy. - So Tom, we appreciate you putting your bracket out there. If you hate this, at tone digs with a Z on that thing, we appreciate the amount of commitment that you put the ball. - Thank you. - Genuinely, thank you for that. As we wrap up here on ESPN and continue digitally, we can't help but thank Ryan Paganetti enough. Hey, Maliki Andrews. Shreggar announced a big day today. Did you see that, AJ? Are you excited for Big Day? - Yeah, prime time with Shreggs at 2 p.m. or something, what's it called? - Yeah, it's called Big Day, I told you. - Big play, Shrod, man. - Big Day Shreggs. - Big Day Shreggs. - 2 o'clock, they'll be following us every single Monday through Thursday this football season, Monday through Friday and the off season. I think everybody's happy for Shreggs. And also, Draft King's Game Day, AJ, I don't know if you've been in there, new boost popping up every hour, every half hour. Obviously, we're playing alongside, trying to take as much advantage of them as we possibly can. Because if you're of age, and agreed to be responsible, and not like an asshole, we'd love you to come join us on Draft King's the best sports book on Earth. As we take on another incredible football season, that week one of the college football season kicks off tomorrow night. Teams are already enroute to an NFL game. Life is great. That's AJ Hawk, the boys are here. Great work this week, D-Butt. The show, Rascal, or tomorrow, not happening. Be later in the fall. We continue, goodbye. Maybe later in the fall. This is a crazy week. - Yeah, I mean, moving parts, to try to do it right before you leave later in the fall. - They fought a stuff. - Later in the fall, I think. Do you have time to do those rehearsals? - I mean, God, you sound check, right? - So that makes sense. - The season goes on, you'll get more and more. - Okay, so let's go, probably spring. It's probably not been spring, if I had to guess, but. - That makes sense. - With the amount of talent, like, the musicians that we're going to be playing. - Yeah. - Obviously they would, hey, we're doing a rehearsal. It sounded like, we've done this before. Have you ever done this before? - It's like, actually, no. Like, I haven't even sat in, like, rock band. I did that, like, two to three a.m. You know, I've done that before. - It's like that. - They're like, well, we'd like to, like, at least run through each song, like, maybe once or twice, maybe. - I've been practicing walkthroughs, mini-camp, OTAs, training camp. - Yeah, and I didn't even think about that. I was just like, all right, I'll just, you guys got the song. I'll sing the thing, you know. Well, maybe I have a little, there might be a little. - Whoa! - Back to, yeah. - How do you even start it? - Yeah, I know. Honestly, I did not think about any of that. Okay, obviously, I don't think about any of that. I'm like, right before football kicks off, we'll just go ahead and do this. All the incredibly talented musicians from Nashville that made the songs that were phenomenal what they do, they'll come on up, they did. They all agreed, yeah, yeah, we'll definitely come on up. You got it, no problem. We're very grateful and appreciative of the opportunity. Thank you. I'm like, I'm very grateful and appreciative. We've got to perform this one time, at least, you know, who knows if it's ever gonna happen? Again, that was my thought. Then, as it was getting closer, it was like, okay, so, we're gonna have to do a rehearsal. Sound check, probably. Where, when, is that possible? I'm like, that's a good question. That's a really good question. They're like, Wednesday night, we can come up, do rehearsal, whenever we get back Wednesday night. I'm like, sweet, let's do that. That sounds good. Couldn't it need you, probably, I mean, we got to do each song at least twice, right? So, we get comfort, like, we should do it at least twice, and then there's probably gonna be some work. It's probably two and a half, three hours, probably Wednesday night, is that good? We'll probably get in around eight, 30 at night. I'm like, so there's like nine to midnight on Wednesday. I get, we can move that to Thursday morning as well. It's like, we gotta show on Thursday. I'm like, oh no, I've grossly underestimated it. I have grossly underestimated it. The live show with all those musicians, like, what do you think? I have grossly underestimated this. They describe it. To think about it, yeah, I guess, I assume, like, yeah, when you now, it's like, all sweet, you know, perform. And then I never thought about it either, about all of what goes into it. What's good to? We got college game day on Saturday. This is the first one of the year, and then we're going on tour, basically, for the next five months, I mean-- Imagine you going through each song twice, too, like the day before. I think we got it. I think we got it. Yeah. That's tonight when we got-- On your vocal cords right before. So that's the thing though, now that I know how to direct the air through my vocal cord muscles, OK? And it's obviously work in progress. But now that I do that, it actually should help me this season whenever I get to the losing voice time of year, which is inevitable around week three, week four, as the Pauline and Traven from the South back to the North, let alone with Monday, and I count down coming into play there. So normally, we try to stay seed up, try to stay seed up, which I'll remember that, by the way. We are entering seed up time, which remember our vitamin C, as we go forward here. But I believe Coach Geiton shout out to her down there in Nashville. With what she has taught me, I should be able to find something in there somewhere throughout football season, just as a speaker, which I would suggest everybody try to figure out and learn how to sing. I think it is a incredible control over, like, your body. I obviously can't do it every single time. I think my conditioning of being able to do it longer will hopefully continue to grow as we work through the-- all the different drills and messages. But it is something that I think we should try to figure out, because we all lose our voices. Because there's a lot of talking. There's a lot of shit. Yeah. This is a practice together, guys. We should. I'm more of a soloist. Nah. I'm a shower guy. I'm a shower guy. We're fucking coarse. I get it after a cool warm-up squat. Yeah, we should do that. We'll do that on a road. We'll do that whenever we go on a road. We'll do everybody with the breathing exercise. Sure. Sweet. What I was told, though, is that you know whenever I get going and you can see these going? That's complete opposite of what you want. OK. We don't need everything. What do we do? What should we do? We were like, everything to be relaxed around the vocal cords that are in here, because if not, you're kind of straining everything. No, it's like you need to see a runner, like a track star. You should be relaxed. Yeah. So whenever you're seeing this when I'm yelling whenever this Saturday, just know it's not at all what I'm supposed to be doing. Oh, it's enough. Coach, guys, say at least you're rude in your vocal cords right now. You should relax that thing, let those things kind of cook in there. You know, direct the air through there. You know, and then kind of let it eat. But to be clear, I thought for sure just going to be showing up. Let's play these songs, OK? That was a good time. Turns out that's not the case at all. So we're going to have to punt that through. Later in the fall, maybe spring. As you pointed out, probably not possible, probably. But I do think there'll be time for me to get down the Nashville during the football season. Go through it. And I think I'm going to get down the Nashville, then I'm able to do it. So in my mind, rehearsal/practice/soundcheck potentially doesn't happen. Soundcheck has to happen at the place. Rehearsal and practice happens at some point. Then show later down a road. So in my head, I have to get down to Nashville at some point. As opposed to that, I'm all coming up here. Have a hotel room. Sure. Anybody can do it. You can do it. Good luck, man. Godspeed, fucking football season. We got a countdown, game day, huge. Come on. Rehearsal, you know? Rehearsal. You got to do that. I'm like very excited. I had this wave of excitement that hit me last night while I was laying in my bed. I was like, man, we are literally just a couple days away from being in a full college game day. Buzzsaw down there in Bad Rouge. And anybody that comes out and hangs with us Saturday morning. I've a lot of things to do. we appreciate you. I think there's some sort of tropical storm potentially in the area down there. There was one. There's three out in the Pacific. So watch the total for the Hawaii game on Saturday night. There's three hurricanes going on the Pacific. That's awesome. And then there's one in Texas. I believe hovering around right now as well. I don't know if it's going down by you or not. But I don't know. Maybe some residual. Maybe some residual rainfall. I know there is no. We're fully in El Nino right now. What's that mean? I don't know exactly, but I know we're in it. I thought El Nino was the name of a hurricane. El Nino is the name of a weather system. Okay. So we're currently in El Nino right now, which is potentially hurricane season. Our hurricane season is now. Yes. Yeah. So is El Nino weather system saying it's hurricane season? El Nino is a weather system that will also go into the winter and produce snowstorms and stuff like that. I believe as well. I think I'm right, but I could also be wrong. El Nino is a climate pattern that causes unusual warming of surface waters in the central and eastern Pacific. What happens during El Nino? Well, that's good question. Weekend winds, trade winds blow weaker than normal from east to west. Warm water shift. Now this is the one warm water sloshes towards the coast of South America instead of pulling near Indonesia, which has global weather changing implications shifts in heat and atmospheric pressure disrupt normal weather systems worldwide. So I think you nailed it. Pretty cool. Who's our weather guy this year? Cantori. No. Every year. He's Cantori. I wonder. The guy that had the thing in his mountain in the back window. Yeah. How does it end? Jim? Storm chaser. The guy in Tori always. Jim just, he just celebrated four years. Yeah. He's 30 years. Oh, Adam with the. Yeah. Yeah. How that fucking guy? No, he's a good guy. Yeah, but no. What's wrong with him? It's Cantori. This is football season boys. We can't be messing around with the weather. Thank you. All right. Dream Cantori in arena league. I saw Max velocity still doing it. That was something. Yeah, I'm out. I'm thinking of those guys. No, any of those YouTube streaming weather people. Yeah. I hit the fucking road. You're talking about. No, they're all lying and they're scaring everyone and they're all like tornadoes. Welcome to the weather, brother. No, no, no. It's been doing this forever. Hey, hunker down. Actually, go to the grocery store first. Then hunker down for about two weeks. The worst insert name of some sort of weather is on the way and then it doesn't and then it's like the boy who cried wolf because at some point they do say, hey, they got it right this year. It's actually coming and it does come. So it's not just like the YouTube influencing weather people are those guys are the worst. Cantori don't miss. Illinois set a record for tornadoes this summer and they were on top of all of it and the rain here in the Midwest. I think they're on top. So I think you need snow storm. I'm not saying our Joe and Hardow, bro. Nobody. They're not Joe. He just got PTSD. They're not L. Roker. There's two week. I'll fuck your rope. Whatever he takes our nose around. We all talk on top each other. Oh, yeah. No, you didn't know that. No, I didn't know. I think that's good. I think if everybody just talks at the same time, we'll get it all accomplished. You thought my one L. Roker shit is pants? No, I'll rocker got it right is what happened and maybe he did poop his pants. I'm not 100% sure, but I didn't see that. I'll Roker can do it all. He can read the weather. He can obviously read a Doppler. He can walk up parade. He can do it all. He's a host. He's an individual. Yeah, he's great. Outrokers want a goat in the world dog first. Outrokers still alive. You'd celebrate those people that are like a hundred years old. Smuckers. Is that the real outroker? Remember that being I say? Still. He lost a lot of weight. Wait a minute. I remember I saw him on TV one time. One time. He just froze for like two minutes. That happens. That happens. That happens. Outroker rebooted. It happens a meal time. Yeah, let's get him confused. Outrokers black, right? Yeah, glasses. He's lost a lot of weight. That's so. So a lot of people. What's that? There's there's many people that are like, holy smokes. You see them 10, 15 years ago and they're 220 pounds heavier than you are now. Oh, you're saying they've gotten fatter. We're saying they were fatter and they've gotten smaller. Sometimes you forget that people were much bigger. Oh, yeah, I guess when you see photos from the past first, maybe now, like, and you know, I forgot. I forgot. There's there's a whole another person with them back there. Yeah, literally a bigger person. And then you tell them like, you look good, you know, and then somebody comes in and talks to you and go, looks fucking weird. It's like, whoa. They worked their ass off on this. It's like, yeah, but that's the one. No, that's the thing. There's some guys looking at work too. If you just lose a bunch of weight, you're not working. Then you do lose. Got some weights. Yeah, because then you come bag of leaves. Yeah, you don't want to be, you don't want to be looking like a bag of leaves. It's certainly possible in this modern day and age, unless you're a big orange bag of leaves. And you got a jack-a-lantern based on that's nice. Oh, you're talking about kids, you're wearing a spooky season. Yeah. Well, no, close. We're getting a little too fucking hot outside. Yeah, I guess there is a heat warning here in Indianapolis for the rest of the week. Obviously, tropical storms coming through. That means heat down there. South Florida, you know more about hurricanes than us. Are we? Are you guys in hurricanes? Oh, yeah. It hasn't been a rough one yet, but as the fall, as we get into the fall, that's when they start to. I was usually away from football. You know, my post-high school, and then you have to see it on the news and feel like a fucking asshole, because you can't help. Is that post? Is it beginning of football season? Throughout, kind of, yeah. That's scary stuff, because that's a lot of that's a lot of boy who cried wolf type stuff, right? Whole lot of it, and then you have like, you know, certain ones that actually show up, you know, maybe category three didn't turn us to a four, then it hits like a five, and then you have something that are out in the water that say, oh, by the time it hits land, it'll be the worst sense whenever, and you know, knock over a couple of chairs. But that's what you have your old people, your grandparents, who like 80 years old, you're like, hey, I should have died. I ain't fucking leave. I ain't going to. So it's scary though, especially when you're not like I said, boots on the ground. You got to watch on TV with everybody else, but it's always a wild time of the nature, you know, crazy, it's crazy. Yeah, modern nature is a crazy crazy lady. I mean, beautiful. Obviously, I love when that sun comes out. I love a nice 72 degree day. Oh, 69, maybe 69 to 72 in that window. Light breeze. Son, you're starting to change. Oh, do we just all went there, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's there constantly. Close. Do you really? That's incredible. My brain. That's good. That's what the Midwest is. That's the best thing about the Midwest for sure. The fall agreed spring. I like as well, but spring has kind of become summer. Fall now feeling like summer as well. I do wonder if we're just going to power through these transition seasons. Get a week or so, right? How do we power rank the seasons? So if spring was actually spring, I would go spring first. I was born then. And also the weather, I think, is good. It's like 74 or 75. Supposed to be under 80. I think is what spring is supposed to be. But spring as of late has just been winter and then 100 degrees and then winter and then 100 degrees. And then we're in summer. Turn the entire time. So I think I'm kind of out on what spring is. Fall still still hasn't. Please spring fall. Summer winter. Oh, yeah. It's a place for each one. Each of them has a time as we live in Indiana. Winter definitely drops a good bit because there's nothing to do. There's no skiing or snowboarding here in Indiana in the winter. When you're still sweet, though, I don't like the winter. Do you have stuff to do over there? I mean, yeah, go out in the yard and throw snowballs and roll down on the hill. Do that. I don't know. I've never skied. That's not my thing. I got to side by side, pull my kids around on that. That's a good little game playing the winter. Yeah, I think I'm fall or spring. If spring was supposed to be, if spring was spring, I would have spring at one. Oh, spring doesn't have ball, though. Yeah, I agree, but it didn't have the best weather. It had something to do. Spring in college is the spring in college was the best by fall. And it had like Southern California weather for like a month and a half. It was like perfect. It's not like anymore. Fall feels more like spring. October might be the best. Yeah, like Halloween. I like heading into Thanksgiving Christmas. Yeah, I think fall is number one for me. It's a fall spring. Just because it's football, obviously, so football wins. But if we're talking strictly weather basis, I think fall still. Those crispy evenings, golfing, these leaves, and you guys got a big face. You didn't get that grown up, Steve, but you know, no, no, it was how cool it was. Summer summer, summer, summer growing up spring summer hot, hot, hot, hotter, hotter, hotter hottest. Holy shit. Nobody go outside. It's too hot and back to hotter, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. Shout South Florida living, baby. But it doesn't know that much. Winter's great, too. I like winter. Yeah, because I run hot. So I'd rather it, you know, be very cold, but you don't see the sun throughout winter. So that kind of bums me out a little bit. I like snow. I don't like freezing bitter cold, but I like snow. I like seeing it. I'm okay with that. Snow feels warmer. When it's when it's cold and it's snowing, it feels warmer. Very much. When it's cold and not snowing, ass, because there's no sun, normally windy. If it's rain, sleet shit, oh cold rain is the worst. Yeah, I think so, especially because that thing's probably going to freeze. Yeah, you know, and everybody's gonna be weird. We had some nasty ice. Didn't we this past one? I remember we had the huge ice. Black ice. Polar vortex. We had polar vortex come through, I think this past one. El Nino normally indicates warm winter. Okay. From our understanding of what the internet's telling us. What the internet did. The former's Almanac. Tell you that. That's good call, because that thing was predicting the future, right? That's what people claim. Yeah, who writes it? I mean, Michael J. Fox, maybe I think, right? He did, yeah. Yes, you are right. Yep, he did. Him in the professor. Back to the film. That's what that movie pressure is kind of about. The world were two, how they figured out. Pressure. Pressure. Pressure. Pressure is Gabrielle Cedadefe. Pressure. Big Gabby. I met her multiple times. Let her know as a huge fan. That was a a big deal. I got a selfie with her. Two of them. And I feel very proud of that. Nobody's going to talk about it, but I'm a huge fan of hers. And we got a live look at Ben Shelton right now at US Open. Taking on Hubert Chiches, Polish lad, who's two in nine in career majors, Shelton up six, three in the first set, three, three now, battling a little bit. Break point. Oh, I like that. He put a little backspin on it. Her cast had no shot there. Advodot Ben Shelton, he's on the return. Mick Jagger. What's that? Mick Jagger right there. I think it's probably Hubert Hunter's coach, maybe. Yeah, look at that coach. But it might be Mick Jagger's right. Mick Jagger still has it. Hunter obviously understands that this is very important right now. Advodot could turn four three, could swing the entire, oh, what a serve. 138, man, our pain. The corners. D, but how much do you know about tennis and the internet? Oh, not much at all. My sister used to date a guy who was being in junior tennis. And you know, as an athlete, you think, I can get out there and I can do anything, especially tennis. I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't even get close to touching a return in the serve, which I thought I could do. This kid was 140 pounds, maybe. So yeah, I have a huge level respect for them, but I know nothing about the actual game. Love Coco. It's a neighbor, love Serena obviously growing up. Feder and Adal, Joe Crow, those guys, but I'm like watching. It's cool. That's a good point. This is a great rally right here. Yeah, I got. Yeah, a little little backspan, little ping pong, little shoot, that thing across the table there. What a play by Ben Sheldon as the crowd gets a chance to celebrate the hell out of the American boy, taking Advodot over Hunter Horkes. This is a great shot that ESPN's been using for the replay. It feels like you're actually in the game against Ben Sheldon. I wish they had one on the other side, and they had a ability for us to just kind of have a split screen with both of them as if we're behind him like a video game. What a shot by Ben Sheldon useful cut shot, little cut shot, little size been on it. Well, dropper, maybe I'm not 100% sure. Now, he did fault on the first serve here. So the second serve should be much easier for Ben to kind of handle. That's why the first serve not going in is a big deal because this is a layup probably. Oh, actually attacking double fall, to lose and that's the ease. That's why the first serve is such a big deal because they're going for it there. Mm-hmm. Broke them. That's it. Once you have one day. Congratulations Ben Sheldon. Good win, Ben. Guy double-faulted to walk his ass out of the US open. That's what Ben Sheldon's doing to people. All right, scoring real quick. 10 is 101. Like, let's just, how many say it? 50 and 30, 40 win. So one. So, okay. 15, 30, 40 win. But then you got to do so and all that, you got to go into it. If it ties at 40, then it's, uh, then it goes to extra and then they have the day, add, add the thought is advantage or up one trying to get the two. Isn't Bruce our tennis guy? Yeah. What's the love? Love is zero. So it's 15 love. Daddy love 40. Love 40, 40 is doose and then you go add in means the guy serving has the advantage and add out means that the return player Ben Sheldon in that instance has the advantage. That was a massive break for Ben Sheldon. He's going to win that match and you got to go two in a row whenever it gets the doose and break is when you break it's breaking when you win a game with the best world is guys got to win three sets. Girls got to win two. You want to win every game that you serve and then if you can win a game in the return, that's where you, uh, you're really taking control of the set and then the match. It's different rules minimum. Yeah, three and two. I believe is what AJ just said. Yeah, best of five, that's three. It's one by two in the sets, right? So if it's like six, five, you got to get the seven. Yep. Yeah, but then six, six tie breaker and then the tie breaker rules vary from tournament tournament. I've found some kind of fucking confused tie breaker and when I was playing growing up, you'd go to like a random away game and it's like what are we playing for the tie breaker? Are we going to seven or are we going to 11? Nobody ever fucking. Okay, tell me this tennis. We talked a little bit about this beforehand. The people growing up tennis as in general country club sport, right? Just happens to be the most athletic kid at the country club normally dominates tennis because you can't do that golf against everybody else. So where I grew up in Connecticut and on Long Island, there are a lot of clubs that are just pool tennis and then they're super nice country clubs that are golf pool tennis and those are usually nicer pools nicer tennis but also have a golf course. My club was a swim pool, a big field where we play baseball with ball and shit and then play tennis courts. So it was just pool playing water pool swimming and then go over play tennis. Yeah, is it a country club or is it a public situation? That would be a swimming tennis club. Yeah, that was it was a private club but like, you know, it wasn't like a hoodie toy. Now as you signed up to utilize the facilities. It was like my mom would drop me off at 8 am and pick me up before in the summer and that was like school replacement. Got it. That's a camp. And you were good. You played water pool and you were you played tennis because it was there and it was available and you were good at it. Yeah, I did it all. I would like to let you know that you should have maybe got into basketball a little bit more. Hey, Bruceman knocking down shots out. Yeah, lefty and righty sneaky NBA three's lefty like kind of cross face and then just floater right hand. He's been knocking them. It's been outrageous to watch but Bruce is kind of found in NBA three point shot amongst the game of seven returning. It's been fun to watch Bruce. Yeah, it'll it'll disappear completely. I'm the worst kind of ambidextrous where you're not really good with either one but you're somehow capable of doing a lot of stuff. I like that. That's not the worst kind. Yeah, because the worst kind can't do shit with either. Yeah, you got to need the true. That's a new that's exactly has no dexterous. That's who? Debound was a national champion. I didn't say that. Yeah, he's a smaller ball yesterday. He could shoot a bit too. Yeah, he's he's always competitive in seven. Yeah, good shooter. He's got really good form. He watched like JJ Reddix tape and said, I'm a shit like that guy because he's doing really. Yeah, he's got really good form. Yeah, with dragons. The only he did potentially lotion himself down whenever that was happening. He, um, so he has to step right into a shot. We talked about this. So I think like actual basketball could be tough for him, but he has to step into every single shot. In game point yesterday in seven, he was still in it and he actually decided to go behind elephant, step back three to shoot had to make it low IQ play was nowhere player decision player shot. Okay, low IQ player in the step behind the one defender on the court and fade away from the from the not the side that shorter NBA three from the point, which I think is the furthest three points shot that you choose that. We don't know. We're still don't know. And he said, I just wanted to be natural. I just didn't want to think about the moment. It's like, all right, we appreciate that. And I like that he was locked in seemingly, but he lost yesterday a couple big time games. Obviously, uh, basketball has helped carry us through this off season. We get tennis. We got an intense today. Tennis. Yeah, we did tennis. I've been later carried you through like an hour or two. Not even hour. What do you say? That was a magic shot. Two shots. I'll pass that thing out of you. One shot. Don't miss your chance to blow. It's a good shot, though, man. You can fight it. Opportunity comes once and it's done. You know, and it did. But that thing still around just doesn't get property on the court. If you're not going to work. Yeah, right. That is, that is not how from my understanding, that thing was going to fucking shoot a golf ball up to be on the tee. Yep. And he was just going boom. Another one. Boom. I was going to be able to hit a hundred balls maybe 10 minutes because they were just going to be loading them up for me. Like a bowling alley, that thing's going to get your balls kind of put them back in there. And it's like, wow, this is the future. I'm going to get good at golf. This is what it's going to be. And they say it works because the worst thing about golf is they'd never fucking work. I don't know how it happens. First, that was the best shot I ever hit. Yeah. I might have been a 330 yard drive. Too good. It's too hard. They said frozen sleeping man. It wasn't up. It was up. It was up. It was on. I saw it. Fucking had his eyes open if he was sleeping and taking a seat in that day. He was up in animal golf. I have to be another day. Shots Kevin Hart. He's only going to get better. Love what he did. 132 hours and 12 minute video. Have you played golf? Over a million views. He shot a 132. I like that he's respecting golf that much. I like that he's going to stick with it. And I'm excited to see his growth. Golf does not necessarily mean you're going to get better if you play more, though. Like that is a part of the problem with the sport. You can actually get worse if you practice that happened to me. I'd hang up the clubs for a while. I was almost back. I'm potentially thinking about it. But AJ, the ability you have on a golf course should not be understated. And that's why alongside your football capabilities and your basketball capabilities, your father in capabilities, your name president of Ohio, you have one final opportunity here to talk about that Washington Post article yesterday. I have not read the Washington Post article. You probably have to pay or subscribe to it. I would assume if you click on the link. I did read certain things about it, but you know what? I'm not hearing anything about it. Other than you guys take the one shot out of here. We get it. We understand, but we know that you guys are the only people keeping this thing alive. I don't I don't hear anyone talking about it. Okay, we're not keeping it up. We're just trying to do a little journalism. You're president of Ohio. We have the other president on her. I'm going to ask him on game day. Maybe you should. Yeah, you should. We're talking about the big thing. I'm going to say I think there's some. It's crazy, man. Some international assistance potentially happening for one of these teams here. Wow, who? You? Washington Post told me China's in the last state basically just kind of watching film for Ryan Day. Is that what is that? It's his problem. He's he's listening and putting his ears to the ground in English Did Mandarin brother got a change your change your settings she she need you do got to change your settings And they got apps for that just something to think about washing posts Saying not good, but hey, we'll continue to be fans of the Ohio State buccas because of how great they've been to us How great they are for ball and they produce you so we obviously have to like that before we get out of here We got to celebrate the president's cup roster United States. Let's go team. Come on now boys need you here Obviously top ranked Americans make the teams got a Sheffler Cameron young windom Clark Sam Burns Russell Henley calling more cow the stars of the playoffs and the PGA tour they make the team who are the captain's picks good question How about Jacob Bridgman Patrick Cantley Chris Goddard of incredible video on social media Yeah, Zander Schoffley Justin Thomas and the Ladd The Auburn war Eagleman Jackson Coivin makes a squat these guys are gonna be very pumped to play for America Yes, if Chris Goddard's video tells us anything. It's like the Lads are very excited to represent our country And obviously after getting our asses beat in a Ryder Cup We need to make it 12 straight president's cups. I got a good team though. Mm-hmm. Now granted there's some people saying out of the top 18 Ranked players in the president's cup Only two of them Reside for the other team. Okay, okay now they got a Canadian on their team I didn't know that was a part of this. I didn't know Canada got a chance to sign up for this two Canadians I knew this was Asia. I knew it was Australia New Zealand. I knew that entire stuff. I did not know the Canada was also trying to get us So once again boys, let's keep the Chris Goddard spirit up Let's make sure we're representing for the country and we cannot fucking loose. Cannot. Okay. Cannot loose. I'm an option They got a good team to Ryan Foxes. He's he said he's once get out there and based on it. Pete. It's all he wants to do Min Wouley unbelievable Adam Scott. No problem. Hadecki Matsiyama. Yeah, he's a winner. See who Kim Those are the two. Yeah, we got problems potentially if we don't come out with our best and we need to play our best So we have the best president's cup Get let's get the hell out of here be your friend telephone some nice might change your life. Do you want to work this week? Whatever you come back. Yes, what we got football NFL week AJ you're the man. We'll see you tomorrow. Thank you For allowing us to do this for a living. It is because of all of you Then we get to live the dumbest and great life that we do. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you football season is here Let's enjoy the hell out of this season and let's be assets to society. Mm-hmm. Which is all we're trying to be hell you Literally all we're trying to be thought asses It's very close. You know the line between hero and villain It's pretty close. It's been saying that a lot lately and the word asses in assets very close Let's not be asses. Let's be assets Be a friend telephone some nice might change your life. We're understanding together team on me team on three for the good of sport, baby One two three team good. Bye