PMS 2.0 1607 - NFL Preseason Week 2 Preview, Keenan Allen, Pete Thamel, Vita Vea, Ian Rapoport, Rece Davis, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble the boat the draft King's Dunderdome on this Monday night football Thursday August 20th, 2026 this sports program begins now football is the absolute greatest and preseason week two begins this evening as we have the Texans in the Raiders in the Niners in the Chargers kicking off a full preseason slate tonight I think is going to be spectacular San Francisco 49ers will be led by Brock Perty who you'll get to start who knows how many series is probably not many but we shall at least see Brock Perty on a football field and maybe when we see Mike Evans I see he's got those little pants on he looks tall really tall really athletic sweet tats all over his leg he's obviously rolling Brock Perty will take on Justin Herbert Herbert will get at least one series obviously we talked to a dejected head coach of the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh just yesterday as Tyler you gonna lay down but you gonna lay down well you gonna lay down here dude it's take blue to work day today okay you want to celebrate preseason week two happening blue obviously blue healers slash something they say maybe Pyrenees they say maybe German Shepherd not a hundred percent yeah that's down right there that's down with dog right there and we're looking for the dogs tonight that are gonna be competing in preseason week two because it's not just obviously Chargers and Niners we got Fernando Mendoza playing a good amount tonight if you listen to what Clint Kubiak had to say now everything situational you know what happens around him how he does is he getting blown up is he not getting blown up well obviously depending on how the number one overall pick plays in Kirk cousins we don't know we have no idea if Kirk cousins gonna make any appearances CJ Stroud will be playing on the offensive side we don't know how long but on the defensive side they're not playing anybody it sounds like so we got good on good for a couple minutes at least tonight we got good on hand coming for at least a couple minutes tonight and Monday night football kicks off their season Troy and Joe will be on the call as the Monday night football crew will be starting their road to the Super Bowl in February in LA on ESPN and ABC it's a special time to be alive we're incredibly lucky to be here we thank all the uh yeah we're talking to you to blue for loudness to do is for living talk to tables here at Boston Connor and Natasha Schmidt how's it been with blue and how do you feel about week two a preseason kicking off tonight it's been fantastic blue especially just because you know as soon as some people watching the obviously barked pretty loudly so nice kind of have that in the kind of atmosphere everyone early wake up call almost like a like a rooster in the morning if you will but I'm juice week two is kind of the big week you know we're seeing Stroud tonight stride it feels like the Texans maybe not last year but going into this year at least Texans are definitely in it for the Super Bowl and we're not gonna see their defense which is probably the strength of their team but seeing CJ Stroud I know it kind of sucks they just had their you know one of their young stud wide receivers tear his ACL but we get to see their superstar kind of rookie guard Keelan Rutledge that they're talking about being the leader of their entire online already kind of similar to like a gray sable from the Seahawks last year like that'll be interesting to watch and then Mendoza of course you know I don't know about the late game at 10 with Purdy in the Chargers God 10 o'clock star we're gonna be up all night yeah probably this is one of their things like the world cup I'm not gonna watch Algeria take on whoever the hell it was at 11 30 and then it gets on you hear the environment it's like yeah I am I brain will kind of let that have all of a sudden 10 becomes 11 11 becomes midnight midnight becomes one of you think yourself God we're right back at football season are we not but that late game we're gonna at least see Brock right place or that means we're probably gonna see good offense the line play not putting Brock out there if the offense the line isn't good in trail ants is potentially going to get an opportunity here to have a little spite after Justin Herbert gets off the game what do you expect an out of Justin Herbert and Brock party just quick drives let's kind of go through this entire thing get out of the game Herbert it feels like especially I've talked about harbour yesterday is more like hey why don't you get some runs to the center they of course he was Jim Harbour was very dejected so I am looking forward to hopefully seeing some smiles at a heartball on the sidelines tonight but probably a little bit of that just kind of feeling it out getting in sync I mean they still got their two tackles to the you know Joe Alpe in the top 10 pick Richon Slater who's been paid over a hundred million dollars they still have solid guys up there but more reps to the center and then pretty yeah let's let's swing the ball out to some receivers I don't know if Mike Evans is gonna play I assume not yeah I assume not but maybe a little baby shorts yeah he did yeah does all baby baby baby tights made him look cool they did made him look really tall you look like an actual like draft yeah I'll hide the legs it was unbelievable and I think just every clip we get of him in San Francisco 49ers uniform is going to be weird for at least a little bit because how long he was obviously with the bucks now he's a staple of the bucks I would want to show off I guess cool thigh tattoo as well if I was Mike Evans you can't do whatever you want whenever you have what 12 straight thousand yard seasons or whatever with a hundred different quarterbacks I'm excited for Brock party to get utilize all of his weapons christian McCaffrey obviously not going to be playing he's dealing with them stiffness not contract it is stiffness if he wasn't if this wasn't like joint practices or a game they say christian McCaffrey would be out there but we're gonna have to see somebody Brock parties out there yeah I'm gonna have to see somebody of Justin Herbert's out there they're not just gonna roll them out there with everybody so I think with who we see playing and who's been announced is getting some reps we should get pretty excited about good football tonight because preseason has been delivering to us now we're two and all currently in preseason bets with the best sports book on earth draftings now if you're of age okay draft Kingsville but on 50 states if you're of age and agree to gamble responsibly and not like an asshole don't be an asshole ready for everybody yeah and stinks you're not going to get rich especially gambling and preseason games absolutely got to be super duper responsible it is irresponsible of you to be an asshole to not gamble responsibly on like actual preseason games let's all relax here okay but we should sprinkle a tiny little bit to have a little bit of interest which is what sports gambling is supposed to be and what it will be for the next hundred years hopefully for an entire society we have a team ride tonight let's go to one half of the hammer that cowboys AP tone team ride tonight on draft Kings is not a boost it's not a boost no but it is just some for us to certainly be watching for and pooling for yeah it's just something like we've done this for the last couple here for to start preseason undefeated by the way just as you said um it's undefeated two and oh it's undefeated okay now with a minus 165 sure one of it was was there another one that was much better or better odds but not like crazy outs sure minus 155 currently and changing the supposed to happen we understand supposed to happen which is why they smell we're doing for preseason they turn away we just need one here now is there a chance of Fernando has a tough go because he used in Texans defense even if it's not the okay okay all right that's it that's how you fuck it okay I like that that's how you feel but the Houston Texans defense I know their studs aren't going to be playing but it's still good defense like scheme good the people they're getting are good the way they attack is good to make iran's obviously a massive brain so he's going to have something for Fernando even though it's only a second preseason game so one touchdown passed by Fernando bendosa is not a luck it is not a guarantee no but if you are of age and agreed to gamble responsibly that's what we're riding with tonight how come why are we riding with that yeah you're right the the Texans defense it's it's a culture thing it's obviously not just their starters they have great depth there as well it's why they're one of the best defenses in the NFL I don't nando went out last week and he did it um you know kubiak earlier this week that he expects to see a lot of Fernando in this game not sure if Kirk's going to go at all so you know we're just like in obviously kubiak once Fernando to do well he's going to dial up things for Fernando to do well I don't know if they're game planning for this but they're going to run stuff that Fernando likes in this situation he got one for us last week I mean DJ you got one last week against this Texans defense so there's nothing saying that Fernando can't tonight and it's just a great thing to watch 1.1 in this last year's draft go out there and root for yeah one for one here number one overall pick just needs one touch down pass for us as a team to go ahead and win and we will hammer down hopefully yeah undefeated start to our relationship with draft kings the best sports book on earth once again available in all 50 states if you're of age and agreed to gamble responsibly come join us uh with draft kings and if you know that you're not going to be able to do it responsibly wait place for the good of sport take take a hike let's just do something else just do something figure out another way to scratch the itch we just don't need you doing this because obviously we would like this to be something that is a benefit to sports watching and not a detriment to a society so let's not be assholes let's be responsible you're not going to become a bazillionaire I think only like one guy in a history of sports gambling has been able to figure it out so well to get rich but we certainly should have a little sprinkle on there responsibly to make it a little bit more interesting this world we're rolling with and we have been pretty hot here as we've gotten started this preseason speaking of pretty hot we'll be joined by uh Kenan Allen and Vita Vaya here nice nice contract stuff signing stuff seemingly heating up right now rubber meets road very soon a lot of the OGs Vita Vaya gets a deal done he saw as a couple weeks to get in the shape for regular season start not that he's not in shape Vita Vaya is always in shape I think even if he grows to be 700 pounds he'd still be more athletic than you no matter what happens and a lot of good vibes so we'll talk to him later this hour cannot wait to catch up with Vita Vaya who gets a deal done with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers where just a few days ago it felt like maybe not possible then chef forgot on here yesterday and was like feels like you're training in a better direction than we were in at one point later that night deal gets done congrats to Vita we will talk to him here's him and Jason Light smiling for the cameras doing okay look high as he is shapes yeah shape okay how you see us we're have a good time post us on social please everybody likes everybody it's been like that with Vita through this whole process we've seen multiple clips of him on a sideline happy with the team joking with the team but then his agent and chefter were saying like yeah he's still this is where we've come through far 30 million dollars can change things which leads to Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield said deadline was already passed is a deal going to get done no I'm done with it but if they come to him with a three year deal instead of a two year deal or a four year deal with three years of guaranteed money what he changes to before the season starts, possibly. Like that they got it done with Vita. Baker seems like a little bit longer shot, a shot, but who knows? - Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll see what happens with Baker. The thing I liked about Vita the whole time is we never explicitly heard anything directly from him. It was always from either Shepter was hearing something from someone or it was his agent, whereas Baker was forward facing. We heard all of that stuff come directly out of his mouth. He got in front of the microphones at that press conference and kind of addressed everything and that was kind of shocking a little bit. I don't know if anyone expected that, but so Vita could have kind of pled ignorance and been like, hey, you know what? Things were never as bad as they seemed. You were kind of hearing that from my agent from other people, but ultimately, I mean, I think Todd Bulls said it when this whole thing started. He's like, we're not trading Vita Vale. We understand how important this guy is to what we're trying to do, how important he is to our defense. We can't go accomplish the things we want to accomplish this year if we don't have him. So glad he got done. And again, because we were talking about, we were looking at the NFC South and kind of how wide open it was. The bucks seemingly were the team that, you know, everyone was kind of point to, hey, they should win this division, but all the bad juju, the bad vibes around it, stemming from both of these contract situations. It was kind of like, oh, well, maybe we're not picking the bucks to win this year. And I think this stuff getting settled, kind of calms all that stuff down a little bit. - Amen. I think positive vibes are a great thing for a team. It's already hard enough to win. That's why Baker Mayfield saying people are picking against us and we in hour, whenever you're talking about the buck in years. Love that he's not letting the business stuff get in a way of what he's wants to do for his teammates. We knew that from Baker. Well, they get a deal done, I guess we'll watch. Joint praxis today, bears at bangles, bills at Browns, Eagles at Patriots, seeing a lot of highlights coming out of there for both sides. - Oh, yeah. - A lot of highlights from both sides coming out of that particular practice. Good on good, AJ Brown getting back against the Philadelphia Eagles with his new team, the New England Patriots. Asked a lot about Jalen Hertz. They both have high rodents that were good. Were good, were good. And then AJ's make a ridiculous catcher. - Ridiculous. - Ridiculous catcher. - It looks like you two are maybe in the AJ Brown and Drake May are in a pretty good little spot already very quickly. - Yeah, looks unbelievable. I mean, that's kind of in the story of the entire camp. Just AJ Brown changing the offense. Romeo dobs. Everything will clip you see at him. Him being kind of just a solidified number two receiver. This one's from yesterday, actually, just a perfect ball. I mean, watching Drake May, sometimes you look into the schedule and you get worried about how good the teams are ever playing. And then you realize, oh, wait, the Patriots are so, so good and Drake May is so, so good. The other good news about it is the secondary, the defense. You forget, you know, with how good the Patriots and Drake May were last year on offense. That they had top five defense. Then they add key pieces, Kevin Byrd, who led the league and picks last season. He's now the safety for the New England Patriots. He's breaking down Huttles. He's kind of a leader. He's old, old, frable era in Tennessee. But yeah, very, very high vibes in New England. - Yeah, it feels like Egos Patriots are good battle every single day. Falcon's code's happening. And allegedly, Daniel Jones was absolutely frying yesterday. Watch his chef, whole thing was hot, 14 to 14 allegedly. And he adds a piece to this weapon that was number one in the NFL for the better part of last season. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a legend. I think Hall of Famer is what it will be said about him whenever he's all said and done. His stats by the age of 34 rank just next to all the greats. Every single great water see where he just, he's in there. Ladies and gentlemen, newest member of the Indianapolis Colts, Keenan Allen. - Yay! - Going on, what's going on, what's going on? - Welcome to Indianapolis. We are so happy you are here. You need to know that just immediately. I don't want to say I speak for everybody here because there's certainly a lot of people in the city that do not like me. But I would like to speak for a majority of people that have watched his Colts scene for a long time and understood what this team could be and can be going forward. Thank you for picking the Colts, bro. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. - Oh yeah, oh yeah. I appreciate you guys, you know, accept me and bringing me in. - Yeah, we accept you, dude. Now, let's make some fucking catches. - Okay, now, let's switch out about that a little bit. And I referenced the by your age 34, what you've done and what you've accomplished. Here's the HEMBO stat, basically. So most receptions before turning 34. Fits, weight and atoms, Johnson Hopkins. Obviously, all Hall of Famers. For you, you played in 17 games last year. You were a free agent. I assume there's a lot of different potential places or landing spots for you. Why did you pick the Colts and why is Shane Stuykin's offense so awesome to watch whenever it's humming? - Yeah, definitely just that. And, you know, the role that they were on last year, we played them, didn't go so well. They were hot the whole game. I was talking the same kind of the whole game. Like, damn, boy, you doubting it up. Yeah, you know it ain't nothing changed. So just him having that mindset and that, you know, that the way he schemes things up, he's always doubting. And he knows what to get to. He's familiar with the game. He's been around, you know, a lot of great players. Been to the Super Bowl, things like that. So, you know, he's always one of those guys who knows what's going on. And it was an easy decision, man. I'm familiar with the offense. So, you know, just plug and play me right in. - How are you? Did you have to do a physical? When will you practice? Are you fat right now? You think you're in shape? Like, what should the expectations be here? - No, definitely did a physical yesterday. I'm alive at practice today. Obviously got to get him football shape. Can't do that in the off season. So, yeah, we'll be good. I cannot wait to watch you in Danny Dimes' cook. Obviously, Tyler Warren, they said he should be good, even though we had a growing thing yesterday. I believe reports from campus that he should be good. Josh Danz is cooking folks right now in there. Adding you to that, let alone Jonathan Taylor. Maybe best running back in the NFL right now. Adding you to that offense is going to be special. And there's some stats coming out about what you were able to do with Shane Steikin's offense whenever you were at the Chargers. Shane Steikin was on Chargers staff for seven of his seasons, during which Alan Average, 111 catches, 1270 yards during the entire season. Yeah, we'll take that. We will take that. Cannot wait to watch it. Conman has a question for you, Kenan? - Yeah, Kenan. Saw that you were looking for a masseuse in a chef in Indy. Hopefully you got that done. But if you haven't, how important is that stuff to just kind of your longevity? How much does the off the field stuff, let alone the training and everything and knowing the offense? But how big has that been just for you to continue to be one of the best receivers in the NFL? - It's huge. You got to have those things, especially as a professional. You know, every day matters. You know, the body is the temple. So we've got to take care of it and make sure that Indy car is ready to go in town right now. - Okay, so AJ Hawk drank his pee, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he drank his pee. You know, and there's a lot of different, to show his head as he is, he did. We don't know, that's all alleged. We don't know if he actually did. - He heard it. - He will argue that he didn't. But now that you're old, okay, now that you are older, have you had to change what you do in the off season, what you do to your body? 'Cause I love that your first week was like, hey, I gotta get stuff to take care of my body. Have you always been that way? Have you evolved in that world? Like, how do you kind of view yourself at this stage of your career when it comes to that? - Yeah, I've kind of been like that ever since. I did the ACL thing in 2016. Always, you know, had the body work people two times a week at minimum, you know, definitely during the season. And, you know, being in California for the whole, pretty much my whole career, everything was already in place, so it was kind of easy for me there. But, you know, definitely got to find those things when you go to a new city. - Yeah, these are the little things people don't talk about, you know, how much you got to take care of everybody. Chit Chats, you know, Russell Wilson had team three. It was like six people. This guy's paying a million bucks a year to invest in his body. LeBron, he's doing the same. It's like, it's more than that, I think. I think if you were to count for every single, this is kind of one of people. This is your job, your body's your job. I appreciate that you are OG. On that note, tone has a question for you. - Yeah, Keen, you are an OG. So, how does it go when you come into a new room where you are the vet, especially a talented room with, you know, Allakin and Downs? And the kind of similar last year, you had a lad in Quentin. - Yeah. - How much time does it take to kind of like, be the vet in that room? Does it automatically? Is it right away or it's kind of feeling out process with the guys in, you know, kind of giving the points? Man, you know, if you coming out and when you start practice, you ball and then you can be the OG that you're supposed to be. Those guys have been having a hell of a camp yesterday, you know, obviously you said that Danny was dropping Dimes doing what he does, the receivers had a great day. And yeah, you just gotta find your place in there, even as an OG, find your place. And these guys have been doing it for a couple of weeks already. I gotta get in there and, you know, try to fit in. - I like that. They're gonna have you do some really stupid shit on that social media. I can't wait to see it. Canaan Allen converted 29/3 down catches into first downs in 2025. That's the most in the NFL. - There. - Yeah, yeah. We will take all of that, Canaan. I'll tell you, do you about mention it yesterday as soon as the signing happening goes? Canaan played on 17 games last year. I think people forget that when they're talking about you. I think at this stage of your career, no disrespect. I keep saying you're old, but you've been around a long time and you've obviously accomplished so many things. And then like last year, nobody really talked, you come into our team we are excited about for you. Winning team, losing team. What do you think is the most important part? Is it the culture, is it the, like if you had, now that you're older in the league. Good teams, why do they happen? Bad teams potentially, why does it happen? 'Cause everybody seemingly has a similar amount of talent. - Yeah, for me, definitely culture. And, you know, you've got to be around the right people. Everybody holding each other accountable. Everybody here for the same reasons and the right reasons at that, at that part. And then, you know, probably the most important thing is staying healthy. You know, all the other teams. I've been on some a lot of great teams with a lot of talent. And, you know, like last year, you know, you guys probably seen it, seen it best. You guys were on a roll and then everything goes downhill when people start getting hurt. So, definitely got to stay healthy. - Yeah, yeah, everything starts going downhill. We lost eight straight, but we were the number one team in the world. I was screaming every, you know how much fun I was having on this thing last year? I was having a time of my life. in. I don't know a lot of the people in that locker room. If you could tell them how much fun I could have on it, like the first half of last year, number one offense, number one team, Danny Dimes playing his best football, he's ever played in his entire life. Then he breaks his leg, one leg, and then he tears his killies on the other within a two week period. And then we lose eight straight. It's crazy how fast they can go. And I guess getting lucky in the health department is certainly one of the biggest reasons. I'm excited for this year for the Colts, 100% health, go ahead time. - Yeah, Ken, do you feel like you've needed to change your style of play at all as you've progressed in your career? 'Cause you do seem like you play the exact same way you did your rookie year. For people who can remember when you came and have been watching your whole career, you don't seem a different guy at all in that respect. Is there anything that you feel like you've had to change a little bit to continue to be successful this late into your career? - No, yeah, just been playing my game. And I said it yesterday in the media, I've never been a guy who'd take the top off, that's been in blazing speed. So I haven't lost any speed in that department 'cause I ain't having an elude. So, you know what I'm saying? So we still doing what we do. - Okay, so on that note, we saw Travis Kelsey cook a guy in 101's, just got his whole show. Then Cardinoc stood an entire thing on Jackson Smith and Jigba. Here's Travis Kelsey being able to do it. And obviously Travis at this stage, probably running four, six, five, four, seven. Probably still able to cook and get away and get free and Patrick Rums obviously is going to find him. And then Jackson Smith and Jigba and Cardinoc, they did an entire thing about his route tree, how he looks, how he doesn't give anything away. For you, how do you describe your style of route running? And what is the key to you think to getting open in the NFL? - Yeah, a little bit of the same things. They were saying about JSN. His level of playing field is always on the same level. He's never up, he's never down. So you never know when he's breaking and things like that. So making everything look the same. Travis Kelsey's great at it. His pace of play is unmatched. I know a lot of people, they call it lolly-gagging. But nah, it's definitely not lolly-gagging. He is there as a method to the madness and he understands pace, he understands leverage. And that route right there, you know, definitely shows you all of that. The head deception, the way he's making the, and I know he's my guy too, I know he's got game. So that was a good route. - Yeah, that's what Jigba said. Jigba said that was a loy. Yeah, come on, you can knock it out leverage outside, like Jigba, as he was watching the live on the show, he thought it was like maybe somebody that was like new or whatever, he goes, that's a loy right there. He goes, yeah, he goes, come on, I know. And all Kelsey's saying is, man, people have been following for that shit for 20 years in this thing, but-- - Yeah, come on, man. - Yeah, I do this, I do this. (laughing) - Okay, you're talking about staying on the same plane. That was the big combo. That's something you obviously have to work and at this stage, your career obviously it's happened, but like, that's not a natural running style. So all these things are things you work on in the off season and how do you get better at all these at this stage of your career or whenever you're younger, trying to get better at that. - Repetition, man, same way you get better at everything else, you gotta do it. You gotta put in the work, you gotta craft it whoever you're working out with, the receiver coaches, whether it's old line, whatever it is, everything, you know, has to look the same, has to feel the same, and you know, you get, you never give a tell to what you're doing. So like you say, keep that same, keep them shoulders level and running routes, how you running routes, man. - I think the right thing to do is you just gotta get them at the line, you gotta get these guys at the line. - Yeah, yeah, that's big. - Yeah, I gotta get two hands on Keenan Island, come on. 'Cause if I don't, if I don't, boys. - It's gone. - Imagine Chasing, and then he just hit you with one of these and then he, and then he, well, we're going the other way. Oh, okay. You can really embarrass people out there. I mean, I mean, you can really embarrass, new, okay, so when you got to the league 2013 verse now, was, I think Richard Sherman and the Legion of Boom potentially changed some things. Corners now all giants, right? It feels like Corners all very, very big. At the beginning of your career, where they still like the smaller freak athlete, not that they're not freak athlete now, but do you understand what I'm saying? The evolution of the corner position, seemingly through your career has happened. For you, better or worse, with those styles of Corners. - The bigger guy, I mean, they're faster, bro. You know, it's harder to beat him. Yeah, I got to beat him at the line of scrimmage. Like you said, if I beat him at the line of scrimmage, I got a chance. But if you don't beat him, bro, they, they, they, six, four, they, six, three, and they run four, three. (laughs) So, I'm there. - All right, so we'll watch you for the first shot. We'll know if Ken has got it for the first shot, you know? How long would it take for you and Dimes you think to get on the same page? Quickly, how long has that been for you in the past with other quarterbacks? - Should be fine. I'm, I'm a guy who runs it by the book. So, you know, but whatever he knows, I'm trying to get on page with that. And, you know, I know the game pretty well. So, and I know the offense. So, that's going to help us out and should be able to speed things up quickly. - Ken, welcome to Andy Dude. Hope you found a good massage therapist. Hope you found some good food. And we can't wait to watch you. - Absolutely, man. I appreciate it. - Man, I'm pretty, I'm a seasoned ticket holder. So. - So we'll see you. - So we'll see you. - Oh, yeah, I'll see you then. I'll see you. - Yeah, yeah, we'll see you. We appreciate your ladies and gentlemen, Ken and I. - Yeah, Ken and I'm happy as our team. - Yeah, that's a huge gap. - Hey, how about being a vet in the room? - I got to play football first before I can start telling other people what to do. - I'm following up. - Yeah, I'm following up. We're certainly going to have to give away some ideas, you know, to other people. Him and Josh Downs working. - Yeah. - We'll be really nice. Especially with what Alex Pierce can do. And he got Tyler Warren. And then in the back, you got a horse. - The guy. - Yeah, and Jonathan Taylor. And then guess what Dimes can do, too. Shane Stuykin potentially has a real chance. Can't get hurt. - No. - No. - That I didn't like the tweets about Tyler Warren yesterday. Colts tied in Tyler Warren. He was expected to miss about a week. With a minor growing injury suffered in training camps or to say, no worries for week one. He came back out on the field with no helmet, but still had full pads on. They said if it wasn't in climate weather, we weren't doing joint practices. What do you be out there probably doing some stuff? Probably. So it seems like there is little to no worry about our number one receiver, which is what Tyler Warren will be and is. So that's great news. And the Colts Dodge one here. - Oh yeah, big time. - You know, there's a lot of that going on right now. - Dodging or getting hurt? - Both. Like there's a lot of these like, oh, they'll be back in a week, but will they? Like, cause it happened with Steelers with DK and Michael Pittman. Like they said that and they still haven't been back. And then there's other ones where it's like, two, three weeks should be good for week one. But maybe we'll see. There's a lot of speculation going on right now with these soft tissue injuries. A lot of soft tissue injuries. - Yeah, they'll be back by regular season. - Two, three weeks are hopeful for week one. Not a hopeful for week ones. It's like, yeah, but some of these won't be back by week one. And, but I do like that we're not here in Esme. I mean, granite, Hagen's just ACL, you know what I'm saying? It's like, we are here and those. But it does feel like we are hearing more will be back. We'll be back that we've heard in years past. But it's a lot of people that are will be back. So it's like the minor injuries, are we gonna judge them as much as the major injuries? Because there's always a conversation about the offseason workouts or guys in good enough shape. Have they done enough football stuff? Why are they all getting hurt so much in training camp? It's like, minor injury versus major injury. What do we judge against? What do we not judge against? I don't know. I just hope we get all the stars to football season. Yeah, exactly. We need to get all the stars to regular season. And when you get our quarterbacks to stay healthy. 'Cause remember a couple years back, how many quarterbacks was there? - Oh, 60 something, yeah. - Yeah, 60 some quarterbacks played in the NFL game. And the sport felt the effects of it. It was certainly a worse product. Now, feels like these younger quarterbacks are better than they've ever been before, which leads us to preseason games, especially tonight. I think we got good football on a horizon for these preseason games. I think it's shown then the past. Is that NIL? Is that transfer portal? Is that more reps? Is that a better equality of football in college? Is it all of the above? I mean, all those things are going to get studied down the road. But it does feel like we got better trigger men right now at a younger age than we had in the past. - Yeah, even coaching. Clint Kubiak, who's going to be a first year head coach for the Raiders. He was the offensive coordinator of the Super Bowl Champion Seahawks. And he completely flipped that place around. They went from an offense that was OK to Super Bowl champs. He resurrected, not resurrected Sam Darnan's career, but he gave Sam Darnan another fantastic year in JSN. He completely changed him on offense as well. And then Shanahan, Jim Harbaugh, all the coaches as well. Feel great. Some of the weapons now, too, thinking about it. I don't know with the Raiders because Brock Bauer, similar to the Colts, he's their number one receiving option. But even a lot of those guys seemingly, you know, you got four or five guys per team that feel like they could make the team that are very solid on the outside. I know with the Raiders that one of their stars from their first preseason game was Mike Washington, Jr., like running backs, also kind of at a plethora of, you know, riches, if you will, embarrassment of riches, if you will. So it is kind of awesome being able to watch and see all the different talent. All right, let's go to some preseason highlights that we were able to see through week one. Let's go to Bucks Jets off the edge here. Jack Pogburn picks a boom. Da, one of these two sacks going crazy. Yeah, look at a face paint to, yeah, Sunday dude. No, someday, you mean Sunday, what is this season? He'll be playing college football again. Ray's gentleman joining us now on how that works is the authority on college sports. Pete, I've seen you in this exact spot for a couple of hours now trying to explain what the hell is going on. Obviously in Colorado, there was a ruling for five for five. Kids will have five years to complete five seasons of football. The latest it can start is at the age of 19. So if you're in there, that's what it happens. Then judge in Louisiana has now granted the class of last year that didn't get the opportunity to do the five for five to open up the five for five deal to them, which included some guys that are currently in NFL camps and currently picking up two sacks in preseason games. They can now allegedly go back and play college football due to the five for Now, it cannot be any red shirt players that played four years because that would be five years. These are all non-red shirted players who played four years or five years or less of ball, taking their fifth year that was ruled upon in Colorado. Now the Louisiana judge did that. Pete, did I miss anything? I've been listening to you all morning. That is basically what I heard, but you could probably explain it much better than what I just did. What did I miss and how did we get here? Yeah, I think the cleanest way to explain this, and it is muddled, it is muddled, Pat, is to say the class of 2022 right now, the players who have played four years and didn't take a red shirt who have gone on may now be eligible and local state courts like this one in Louisiana have ruled some of them eligible. We're waiting for the appellate court ruling on the appeal of the Colorado case, the Whizney case. Could happen today, maybe tomorrow, it's supposed to happen yesterday, that could potentially take this narrow field of specific state court rulings and widen it a little bit to maybe dozens more players. Again, we don't want to overstate that there's just going to be this flood of guys from camps, but there could be a significant amount, probably dozens, Pat, of fringe NFL players who only played four seasons were foreign done who went pro because their eligibility was up, who may potentially be granted this extra year. And certainly the optics that come with this are wild, Pat, they're mind bending. We see a guy get a sack for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and he could be potentially suited up for LSU or who knows, fill in your, you know, fill in your pretty logo on the side. I do think the thing to caution folks on here though is everything is again going to be appealed, Pat, it's not going to be over till it's over. There are other rules that could come into play. For example, the SEC has an inter-conference transfer policy, which was really made for the second portal window, which doesn't exist anymore. So these Ole Miss players, for example, there are three starters from Ole Miss who were in this Louisiana ruling. Will they be able to transfer within the SEC? SEC rules say right now, no, but will those be amended, adopted for the times like that or will that become challenged legally? Again, these are all things that are going to happen. This is not going to be linear, this is not going to be clean and it is going to stay muddled. The SEC ruling will be the next big harbinger for how significant this impacts the 2020-60s. We love a good harbinger, for sure, because that's obvious. I know you do, Pat. Yeah, that is obviously of Titanic proportions, whenever that ruling is made. Okay, so I like the inter-conference SEC ruling that was made for the second transfer window, which this could potentially be considered because I believe the judge said that there's seven days now in which the transfers are allowed to happen. It's a seven-day window where normally I guess there's a couple, a little bit of delay that schools are allowed to do. Now there's no delay allowed. Seven days is what the portal window is open. I think it's happened already. I think we are currently in the seven-day things, so we'll find our answers quickly. But then you're saying the harbinger ruling that has potentially taken good take a while. So will the players potentially either go back to the schools? Like these Ole Miss guys, they don't have to transfer, so maybe they go back to Ole Miss. And then there's going to be a ruling that's going to say, "No, you can't do that," or, how's this kind of. So the Wisney ruling pat would potentially widen the amount of players to then return to the schools? Okay, so these folks, let's say, we're going back to do it. They're in for this season. We should know that Jack Pibern right there, LSU guy, but was it LSU? Now with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, undrafted free agent, who thought that his eligibility for college was up, undrafted free agent, forced go to the NFL. And pick some ends up on the Bucks, picks up two sacks in a preseason game. Finds out, "Hey, you're allowed to play one more year, actually. We just got a ruling. You're allowed to do that. Sweet, I'm out of here. I'm going to go do that." There's nothing that's going to take him back out of that, and he's going to have to try to re-enter the NFL. Like, do we think the guys that decide to do this because of this ruling in Louisiana are good for the season? Or is there more shit that's about to happen? As of now, they appear to be good. But the NCA has come back and pushed back on all of these suits. So, again, it comes back to local state courts. It didn't take long for the old judge in Louisiana to make his decision. What are you saying? What are you saying? What are you saying? It got rubber snapped. Yeah, there is a fascinating undercurrent to this 2026 season of how much local judges will impact the play on the field, right? That conversation starts in Oxford, Mississippi, where one of the, you know, transcendent players in the whole sport has a 60 year after the NSA rule, he couldn't. And now you have this, you know, this judge in Louisiana, among many others, by the way, their state court rulings popping all around. This one got the most attention, Pat. Honestly, I think because of the Jack Piber and Optics that you mentioned. Like, it is, it, it, it, it strains credulity to use another one of your favorite sayings that someone wearing an NFL uniform could show up in a college camp, like, that just doesn't make sense. It, it, it bends our mind. So, let me, I'm not passing judgment on it, but it is, it is an optic we've never seen in the history of the sport before. Oh, great. And this is just like, and ties about to ask you about it because it happened over there in West Texas, a lot of heat for something that we never thought would be possible as happening. I think another big point of this is, this is the only class that this will potentially even be possible for, right? This is literally the only time that this could ever happen. And it's strictly because the five for five rule that this class didn't get a chance to know about and were forced into the NFL draft or to try to get into the NFL. And then Jack, undrafted for the age and get some play in time does well, then the immediate thought is like, well, why don't you want to stay in the NFL? He has no idea if he's going to make that team, but he does know in college, you're still, you could 100, a couple hundred thousand bucks, you can build up your draft stock again. These guys are going into the NFL draft again. Next year, how, how's that whole thing work? That is unknown. I made some calls about that today and I have not got a linear answer from, from, from, you know, these are just questions that have never had to be answered before Pat, right? So, yeah, there is an air of ambiguity to use one of your favorite terms on how the potential redraft process would work for the, for the Jack Piberms of the world. I do think one point on five for five Pat, which was an NCA, piece of NCA legislation. I believe past mid-June, that's what my memory, memory tells me, sort of percolated up around the final four, got pushed through fairly quickly by NCA standards and this would basically give everybody five years of eligibility, right? So, these athletes are, are glawning onto that saying, wait a minute, why did we only get four? It's very fair legal argument that's clearly being heard in local courts all around the country. There's a lot of second guessing right now of the NCA and the timing and the handling of this. If they had simply done this November 1st, this all like wouldn't have been possible. So again, there would have been reverberations and difficulties that would have come with and I'm picking November 1st as an arbitrary. >> Yeah, before having declared for the draft, yeah, got it. >> Correct, yeah. Well, no, these guys had already declared for the draft. Now, I'm just saying if they did it this year now, they would have avoided all of these 50 year folks. >> Oh, you're saying, coming November, not last November? >> Correct. >> Correct, yes. They wasn't even an idea last November that had been that, but they, they worked unusually fast, especially by NCA standards, where nothing happens fast, right? And then all of a sudden, they've now kind of stepped in it because they work too fast, because there's this period of time now where people are, people are lining up and the NCA as it is known to do reputationally is losing in court. They have an objectively terrible record in court. >> Yeah, Charlie Baker, the head of the NCA, basically told us, if we do anything, we're going to get sued and we're going to lose. >> That's true. >> They had to go sue it in November too, don't get me wrong, if somebody would have tried something else. I'm not saying that would have been perfect, but there is a notion that this might have been less messy if they had timed it up. But look, if they did it that way, Pat, they would have timed it up to screw over the athletes who would have had these claims. So that would not have been great. >> Exactly. I'm happy that your brain has gotten through the quagmire to find yourself looking out for the fucking athlete. >> Yep. >> Okay, thank you for doing that. >> No, I as former athlete, very pro athlete, and also former pro athlete, but very pro athlete. I think optically this one looks weird, very, very, very weird. But knowing that this isn't going to be an every year thing, where guys go on the NFL and coming back, has kind of simmered me down a little bit and just basically like, this is the last group of guys, non-red shirt for your players who didn't get an opportunity to experience the fifth year option. So it's not like this is going to be something that's going to carry on in the future, but it is wild. There's been a lot of wild things that have been happening. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Pete, obviously this is all happening very quickly, and I don't know how many people you've had the chance to talk to. But how do you think that coaches and universities who aren't going to benefit from this? How are they going to react? We obviously saw everything with Texas Tech, where it's very hard for them to even schedule games with certain schools now, because they just, they don't like what happened with the Brennan-Sorzby situation. So how do you think that's going to play out for maybe, you know, let's just say a couple of these SEC teams who are going to end up having NFL guys playing against them this year? >> West Virginia might have some guys too. >> Maybe. >> Okay, let's talk to Chris. We're going to find out what's all possible here. We don't know what's possible. Go ahead, Dopey. >> Well, one of the things, Ty, is that a lot of these places are full, right? Like they just don't, there are roster caps that have just been invoked recently in college football. So some of these places simply might not be in position to add. Now, there's always creative ways to injuries and all those types of things. I don't sense that there's going to be a lot of things that are going to happen. There is a frenzy to go after these guys, right? But I do sense that people know what their needs are right now, three weeks into camp, right? And they know where they've had injuries. And so I see this more as, you know, people acting like snipers, perhaps then like buckshot here. Like the people aren't something, well, we're gonna go add a bunch of people, but man, we could really use a defensive tackle, 'cause you know, this gentleman got hurt and this guy hasn't flashed like we thought. And, you know, there's a pathway now to potentially, potentially go get a defensive tackle and they may go do it. But, you know, it's interesting, this Quagmire Pat emerged in basketball in recent weeks. And Dan Hurley, the Connecticut basketball coach, one two national titles recently, is one of the voices of the sport, had some pointed comments, and I'm paraphrasing here, but he basically said like, we don't have to do this, right? We don't have to have these guys back. And I thought they were like, they were very noble comments and they were greeted well across the industry. But, there's also a vicious bottom line to college athletics right now. They are professional sports. And if you need a nickel and you're light at nickel and there's a nickel sitting out there who's started 45 games in the SEC at safety, like DQ Smith has for South Carolina. And you can make your team better. Like, nobody's gonna remember an ethical stand if you give up 46 at home just now. And that's just, that's just where we, that's where we are. - Hey, we don't like that, we don't like that that is the case. We don't like that that is the case, but it is reality of the business. You know, like, that's what like a lot of things, like we all hope to get to this land of euphoria where everything is how we wish it would be. But in like reality, there's things that have to happen to get to that. It's still, and we're all hoping for this perfect world. We are, but man, it'd be nice if there was some sort of something so everybody would understand. It feels like this might be the last ridiculous thing. - Yeah, maybe. Right? - Perhaps. - Maybe. - If there's one realization I've had this summer as we've sort of gone through all these changes in college sports since 2021, if you wanna use NIL as a mile marker, we're never gonna have stability. All right, and we just all need to embrace that. It's just never going to like operate smoothly. Whether it's Congress and Congress comes in and there's problems with Congress, whether there's new rules, there's payment, there's NIL, and this is the cap. No, now this is the cap. This system is not equitable, and it was not built to be equitable. The NFL built to be very equitable, right? 32 teams, draft, schedule, you can like, college athletics doesn't want to be equitable, right? It was stadium size back when you played. Hey, who are the biggest stadium? Who sold the, you were the biggest weight room, right? Those were the different things. Now it's just who can spend the most and people are gonna be creative as they have been for more than a century and how to spend the most. It used to be in McDonald's bags. Now it's, you know, MMR money and washing it and washing it through there. So anyone who thinks college athletics is like close to a period of stability, I think it's naive. I just think it's going to be chaos. It is a multi-billion dollar industry that's generally unregulated. Nobody's really in charge of the whole thing. And it's going to be chaos for a long time. And until we have like a year or two of alleged quiet, I'm just gonna stick to that belief. - All right, Pete, I appreciate the hell out of you being that gift with the fire around you. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, that's the authority. Pete Taylor. - Hey Pete. - Okay, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the man who just signed a new deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was redshirted and then played three seasons at Washington. So I do wonder if there was any thoughts, maybe just sit this entire year out. If they're not gonna train me, I'll go back and play at Washington. In high school, this man was running back, quarterback, wide receiver, detackled, and a lot more in safety. And I assume he played soccer and basketball as well. In absolute stallion, a superstar, a Super Bowl champion and a pro bowler, ladies and gentlemen, former 12th overall pick in the NFL draft. Vita Vaya. - Yeah. - Vita. (clapping) - Big class. - Big class. - Hey, congrats. - Dennis. - Dennis was actually my first sport. - What are we doing? Are we checking to watch? Were you actually, is that why you think you had so much athleticism to play running back in such a-- - Yeah, I think I had that good side to side of the speed. - How are you, ping pong? - I'm probably not as good as you. - I know, I'm, I know I'm not the best with this specialist. (laughing) - We got a lot of time, you know, we got a lot of time, you know, to work on some shit. Thank you for joining us. Congratulations on the deal, brother. - Hell yeah. - Congrats on the deal. - Okay, so obviously we didn't expect to hear that you were potentially unhappy down there in Tampa Bay. We've heard you say it many times, you want to be a Tampa Bay Buccaneer for life. It felt like you were the epitome of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously business does get in the way. At what point did you realize, okay, deal could still get done? And was there ever a time where in your mind, you were gone from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? - I don't think in my mind I was ever gone. I think I'm just really, for some reason, I'm really optimistic. So I just, I had a really good feeling that we get something done eventually. I just didn't know what the timeline would be like, but I'm just happy we got it done. - Absolutely, and then Jason Light was obviously out there patting it down. I don't know if he was trying to see if you're in shape or if he was just trying to give you a half hug or whatever the case. Can you tell me about his relationship with you and kind of how you view yourself with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? I know, is he frozen? I thought you just-- - It was funny after he texted me last night. I think his wife and kids loved me. I always feel a little determined. When I see him around, he texted me last night. And he's like, Blair and the kids could finally talk to me now. (laughing) So Rick Stroud kind of said that when he came on. He was like Vida Vaya is much more than just like one of our best players on the field in the community in the locker room for that team. He's everything and anytime that type of person is having a contract dispute with the team, it can obviously get louder and louder. You were still present, felt like you were still very jolly around the building. What was it like as that was all getting figured out publicly while you're with the lads in the locker room and on the field? - Well, I think the thing that really was really hard for me is like knowing that everybody understood the situation I was in and just hearing everybody saying that they have my back in all this. And I think that just felt really good for me hearing that from them. So there's definitely highs and lows for me. Some days we're better than others. Sometimes it just gets really boring just standing around and not being able to practice. - You're telling me I was a punner, bro. Yeah, not a lot of that. It's a lot of that, dude. A lot of that, yeah, I was pretty bored too. That's why I talk so much shit. You know, I had to do it every time. But for you, you're saying I assume you wanted to get out there and play, but new like, ah, can't though. There was like actually $30 million on a line on what's going on. I assume you're a little confused and conflicted through. Is that what you're kind of just trying to describe here? - Yeah, mainly that. It's also, I felt like I had one of the best all seasons. I had in my whole career. I was down working with the down in Palm Beach working with my guy Charlie Wengeroff. And I felt like he took care of me down there. We took care of a bunch of stuff in the body and took a different approach to training. So I think I feel like something like that. - Were you swimming? 'Cause I will fork, right? - Yeah, Vince. - Massive athletes, massive athletes. There's only a few of you in the history. You know, there's a lot of fatsoes that play football. But the elite freak athlete, big guys, get paid as such. I mean, that's just kind of what happens. There's not a lot of you guys out there. I think Wilfork said he got into swimming in his career because of his joints. For you, what you're going into here now? We tried to do the math, but we never know. - You're not? - We do anything different. You know, big body still handling it. 'Cause we saw that run in in high school. You know, there's joints have been used to it. Are we swimming? Are we doing anything differently? Or what is the-- - It wasn't part of the regiment, but I was in the ocean a lot. In my free time, I feel like being-- I truly believe that being my ethnicity, being tongue-in, I feel like my people really need the sun and the ocean. - I understand. - I feel like that's something that's a necessity for me. - Okay. - And I want to say who's for tongue-in or no? - You say Toko, we say Toko. - Toko. - 'Cause I do know there is a-- - There's a little bit. - Yeah, 'cause I can really kiss him. - No, it's not really. - But for me, hey, white boy, yeah, comes in, yeah, yeah, there is. You know that, yeah, I know that, you know that. - That's it. - Yeah, I'll give you the pass, I'll give you the pass. - Okay, thank you. I'll say that I'll say that on both islands whenever I'm there. Excuse me, Big Toko said I'm a-okay about it. Okay, so let's get off my ass, but I agree with that. I appreciate you, you know, saying my roots say that this is what I should probably be doing. What was the different workouts? What you alluded to doing something different this off season? What was it? Was it just like different conditioning, different lifting? What did you go about differently this year versus a year's pass? - It was just the best way I could describe it was. It was basically like from a rehab standpoint, style of lifting, there's a lot that goes into it. But just basically, there's like a whole bunch of the science that goes into it. Like one of the work, one of the things I learned is off season was mitochondria. Like how much does that, like, mitochondria in it. So it was training like how to get more oxygen in our muscles from the way you train and stuff like that. And it's very beneficial for us because from a play-to-play standpoint, you need more, the longer you wanna go, you basically need more mitochondria. Don't call me on that. might be mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. We all gotta know that, we all know that. And whenever the cell is, you know, when two become one, that's called, you know, the mitochondria tag team. - Oh, when two become one? - Yeah, you know. - Synthesis. - Yeah, whenever that happens. - Synthesis, and then sometimes these cells, whenever they have something go from one to the other, that's, you know, photosynthesis. - Yeah, that's usually more so with plants. - So, yeah, yeah. We got it, mitochondria. - Metamorphosis is what you're thinking about. - Basically, yeah, just learn a bunch of new stuff, learn some stuff about nutrition. You know, get the weight under control and being able to stay healthy in that regard. And also, I don't know, there's just three things you told me, it was like, we stay away from, I think it was Acidosis, hypoxia, and thermal changes. - Yeah, okay. - Almost everything. - And I was like, the three main things you stay away from, and our phases of this offseason, but I'm sure Charlie could explain a lot more to it, but. - Yeah, we'll ask him. - We'll certainly ask him. And I know you also need to take care of the outer membrane and the inner membrane. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then the matrix also is in there. - Sure. - And once the matrix and the mitochondria start going with the three acitus and the ther-- - Whatever the case, I'm happy you're looking in to make yourself the best version of yourself. We cannot wait to watch you. Happy to pay it off, literally and figuratively. Tone has a question for you, but another guy we're watching down there. - Yeah, I do. Ruben Bain, a lot of highlights coming out of him, obviously your first round, Draftwick, out of Miami. Him work during practice, after practice. What are your thoughts on Ruben so far? What role do you play now as a leader on this defense with the young guys coming in? - You always want to be there for the young guys. You always want them to kind of have their own, create their own role with the team and just be there as a helping hand for them. Ruben's already a full-time pro himself, which is really rare when you see young guys his age. But I think he does a lot more than what you just see like on this clip you're showing right here. He's out there by himself. He's always doing stuff to better his craft. Like, I'm sure I don't want to give away all his secrets, but he's very dedicated to his craft and it's just exciting to see and I just can't wait to see what he does this year. - He's got good monocondria, yeah, buddy. Hey, don't you think? Yeah, he's got good monocondria. Hey, he's going to eat too. - Yeah, that's what they say. Viva's teammates. - They do well. - Hembo's stat for Evita just to take to the renegotiations table after a year whenever this deal is up. Viva's teammates recorded 24 and a half sacks with him on the field, 21 of which came when he was either single team or unblocked. They came a single team or unblocked. That's because there's a big tongue in fella in the middle. Just taking up everybody. Congrats to you getting a deal done. Congrats to the Bucks and thank you for joining us. - Appreciate that, no problem. - Hey, sound like a lot of bad vibes out of the Bucks. It did sound for a little bit. Mike Evans is gone. Levante David retire. - Yeah. - Big tongue in Viva, not happy. Baker Mayfield pissed. Should we look at any of that? As the guy who's with the lads everywhere, or should we just kind of put that on? Obviously you get paid. But did it feel like there was a look? We felt like there was okay us. Is that a misread from us, from outside looking in and just being daily sports people and not understanding the biz? - Yeah, that was just the outside noise. I don't think you guys should be worried about that. So everything's going well over here. I feel like we're all on the same mission. We got our eye on the prize. Right now, everybody's happy. I'm happy. Obviously, Baker still has some stuff to work out but I talk to him every day. He seems happy. So we're all on the same mission here. And I think we should be ready to go. I think obviously you don't love to see Mike Evans leave, but it kind of hurts seeing that, but you know, he's part of the league and you know, Levante happy for him and retirement. And it was a bit of sleep for me, but I want you to hear so I can still talk shit about him still about this last year. (laughing) - Did you see Mike Evans? I don't know if he did he do this at the box? I don't think I've ever seen that type of shorts before. I've never seen the pants like that before with Mike Evans. He looks good, man. The legs look good. All of them. We saw all of his legs yesterday and they look good. He's seemingly in great shape. - Yeah, he's in the Bay Area. He's in the other Bay Area. - Two. - He is in the other Bay Area, you're right. - I think he did that because it kind of helps with the power plant over there. (laughing) - You think we're up next to him. - Ah, you're the man. Everybody thought you were headed there. Obviously for a time. I was trying to get you to the coach. Obviously Tampa Bay was never gonna let you go. You're the man, thank you for joining us. - I appreciate that. - Toggle, what am I saying? - Toggle. - Toggle. - It's T-O-K-O and the tongue of language, the T's are pronounced as the D. - Toggle. - Yep. - There you go. - All right, Toggle. I appreciate you. I'll see you here the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Vida Vida. - Vida. - Vida. - Fili Moala, team in a mind, Tungin. Samson Satelli, team in a mind. Us, okay, me, white boy. What up, Us, nah, on his arm, Tungin. Okay, I certainly know what that means. I'm back out of this. Mr. Fili, good to see you. Mr. Samson, how you doing? I'm gonna get out of here, incredible people. It's so good for the sport of football. So good. The island of Samoa, Hawaii, and Tungin, Tunga, I believe, so good for football, so good for everything. So lucky to know so many of them. And very thankful Vida joined us. Good for him getting paid. - Yeah, awesome. - Good for him. I'm happy that happened down there. And him and light joking around. That's good, light new, too. He's looking, hey, post this. - Yep. - We're good. Where's the video with Baker? I would too, on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend. Something nice in my change in life. Take three, three. (sighing) Terms apply. Football! - He's happening tonight, preseason. Week two kicks off as blue roams the Thunderdome. And we get excited about tonight's double header as the loss of Agus Raiders take on the Houston Texans and the San Francisco 49ers take on the Los Angeles Chargers. Obviously, the chargers are reeling from the loss of a $30 million center. Coach Harbaugh was on yesterday and he was bummed out. We'll see how he is this evening. As Justin Herbert will get a snap or a series or two and Trey Lance will come in. Brock Perty will get a series or two. Then Mac Jones will come in. And then for the Raiders versus the Texans, the number one overall pick, Fernando Mendoza, has been said by Coach Clint Cubiac to get a lot of playing time tonight. We should see a lot of Fernando this evening with the Las Vegas Raiders and Clint Cubiac's offense. What does that mean though? Situations are situational. If he comes out and just gets absolutely thumped, cool. I don't think they're just gonna keep throwing them back out there. So if it ends up working out against a Houston Texans defense that won't be playing their starters, but on the offense aside, they will be starting CJ Stroud and then Dougie Davis-Mill comes in. I think we got good football across the board this evening and the Monday night football crew will be doing this game right here. And we will feel as if we are right back in the middle of the greatest time of all year football season. The talk's table's here at Boston Conor and at Ty Schmitt. - One out of the hammer. - Down. - Cowboys, AP, Tony's here. And joining us live from Anatica, Ohio is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, laser gentleman, AJ Haw. - Hey Haw! - Hey Haw! - How you doing, Hawko? Great haircut, you look phenomenal. - Oh yeah, you know what? I got to thinking about this whole ruling coming out. Can you imagine if you got to do like an internship with an NFL team in training camp and then come back to your college? Like the confidence that you would probably gain from that? - I was thinking about that with Jack Pibern. He's been training down there with Ruben Bain in NFL coaching and going against NFL players. And then all of a sudden, two weeks later, he drops shift skiers back down. Now you're taking on a college kid at left tackle. Could be a pretty good confidence builder, I think, as you head into your final year of college football. And I agree that this looks insane and absurd. And I hear Coach Danny Hurley over there in college basketball saying, they got G Lee guys coming and playing in college hoops now. All of a sudden, everything's broken. And he said this morning, oh great, it's going into football as well with this entire thing. I think I understand that it looks terrible. I think it's not a good message. People trying to get back into college to play against amateurs or younger or whatever. This is the only class that can happen for. And this ruling happening when it happened with them not being able to kind of take advantage but be the first class to do it. I could see how they are gonna make this hell for anybody to rule against. So we just need to assume that these guys are gonna be playing in college and there's nothing anybody can do about it and it's never gonna happen again. That's that's kind of seemingly the way I'm kind of seeing it with the five for five in this particular class. Yeah, it's never going to happen again. And also the other thing is is if this guy didn't have two sacks in the first preseason game, no, we're probably care. And he happened to have two sacks played really well. The other side of the coin is like, Hey, if Piperum doesn't go out there and have 15 sacks this season, I'm going to think he sucks at football. So he's going to have to just go out there for LSU, whoever he has. And when SEC defense player of the year, so there's also pressure on the other side of this too. Like, hey, yeah, you got to go against these guys. Now you better go out and dominate in 18, 19 year olds every single Saturday for 15 weeks or else I'm going to think you stay. 18 and 19 to 24 now, at least there is an age cap with the five for five AJ, which I think that is good in the long run. Obviously we had like 26 year olds, 27 year olds playing. And the punter position has been experiencing this for a long time. But now it feels like the five for five rolling. You get five years to play five seasons. And the latest it can start either clock is at 19. So 24 is seemingly the oldest that you could be in collegiate sport. Now I assume they'll have to make some changes if somebody goes and serves in the military or some medical thing that takes place. There will be exceptions to the rule. But just at least there being some guardrails of five seasons and five years. I think that's good. Even though this is all going to make it look terrible, I think this is a good thing going forward, AJ. Yeah, exactly. This is a one time thing. It's a one off situation that won't happen again. But yeah, we talk about like the guardrails we need. And Pete, no one really knows what exactly that means. But this is at least like one small step towards something coming together, I guess. One small step for ball. One giant leap for what the fuck is wrong with said sport. And Pete Damage just came in and said, listen, boys, it's going to be chaos forever. It was chaos, McDonald's bags, you remember? Now it's a different type of chaos. That's what in two months from now, going to be some different type of chaos. You guys just need to know there's no stability in college football is what Pete Damage just noticed. Yeah. And essentially that like, there, you know, anytime something happens, people can basically just sue the NCAA and the NCAA has no grounds to stand on, no foot to stand on. So I think that is, and you know, again, I won't say it's necessarily, you know, troubling. Even if you love college, like I'm not a college athlete, you know, if you feel like you've been wronged by the NCAA and you want to sue their asses to high heaven to get another year of playing or whatever, like it kind of seems like people are going to be able to do that. And ultimately all you have to do is find one of these judges who's maybe an alumni of the school you went to or effective school you're going to. And they're ultimately going to be like, you know what, you're right. Fuck the NCAA. You can play son. And then they can. So like, who knows where this is going to go, but it does kind of just seem like, I mean, we say it's the Wild Wild West, like it truly is the Wild Wild West. Anything can happen. But when the games start. It's the best. It's the best. Oh my god. Yeah, week zero is coming up. Yeah, Thursday. It is actually one week from today. We will be on the press business watch coach football at night. As we, I think there are still preceding games next Thursday as well. Like it is right around the corner. And there's a lot of big games. College football week zero, North Carolina, TCU. San Jose State versus USC. NC State versus Virginia. Yeah. Jack State. God damn good football team. Yeah. Paul, you know, all says damn good football team. North Dakota State. Do you want to add this year? What's that? North Dakota State is now a division one program. Are they in Pac-12? They're in the Mountain West. Oh, I like that. Makes a lot of sense. Is the Pac-12 jumping in with the Mountain West? They, uh, the Pac-12 stole a bunch of Mountain West. So Boise and some of those teams are now part of the Pac-12. And for our understanding, Pac-12 actually had people who represented the Pac-12 in like very important conversations. Yes. About the future of college sports. So I think the Pac-12 isn't going anywhere, even though everybody else said you don't exist anymore. Correct. They very much believe that they still do. They're trying to be basically the new Mountain West plus Washington and Oregon State. Yeah, my boy. I'm in. Hey, remember they were coming after us. Told me mostly because they come after Lee Corso who made a joke about this entire thing. And then we're the bad guys because I go, "Hey, you need to stop talking about Lee Corso." That was my entire response. That I had an entire school, obviously. Kind of my thing, I guess, to have an entire people tell me that I'm the worst person ever. I need to shut up and I'm loud and loud and all this stuff. And it's like, you need to not talk about Coach Corso, okay? That needs to not happen. If he wants to talk shit about your school. He's going to talk shit there. You don't need to be coming after Coach Corso. Yeah, right. Was my entire angle? Then boy, they came after me. Obviously, I was celebrating that they were no longer going to have ball. And it was going to be this and they weren't going to exist anymore and all this type of stuff. And I did learn a little bit about their passion, also the reality of it. But I was just wondering why they weren't mad at the people in charge that got no deal done and got them left out of anything as opposed to being mad at me. But hey, I get it. I can understand that. But I like the fact that they're fighting back. I like that the Pax 12 is fighting back a little bit here. I like that they're trying to create more ball, more opportunity, bigger schools, bigger names. And I like that everybody is being forced to take them seriously because they're in the seats in the conversations about the College Sports Council. So maybe everything isn't dead. They could get a playoff team in Boise. Boise is one of the favorites to be that 12 seat or whatever it is. Yeah, and I think that's going to be tough to get for any of those schools after what happened last year, especially with all the conversations and who makes the final 12, who doesn't. But college football is always going to have that issue. We just had V2V on. Obviously V2V sounds a new deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He looked happy. He looked excited. He said they're all on the same mission. That made me feel better, AJ. How about you? Yeah, definitely made me feel better about their chances. And you popped up that HEMBO stat to how much like how much opportunity he creates for his teammates when he is in there. I mean, this guy going back to college. I remember watching him play like he's an absolute dream for really anybody on the defense. You always say like linebackers would love to have big dealignment like this in front. Obviously, but he helps all 10 of the other players on that defense when he's in there. An absolute stud gets a deal done. Baker, you know, that's a whole another combo that will probably linger all season or wall. You know, maybe Baker puts it to bed. Maybe the Buccaneers put that to bed. There's injuries happening around training camps. There's highlights coming. Obviously deals are getting done. Joining us now from vacation. Who would have thought she's again? No, I don't think he's on vacation. I think he's probably just traveling for work. But the backdrop looks very nice right now. Ladies and gentlemen, Junior NFL insider for Anna ESPN. Ian Rappapol. That's a good back. That's a great backdrop. Is it good? Yeah. Was it Gloucester? Wow. Very nondical. Listen, we're in, we're in Nantucket. Obviously it's a work trip. And so I'm doing a lot of work this right here right now. I'm working right now. Yeah, of course, it's a work trip because you're doing this. You're welcome. Okay. That's what it sounds like. Appreciate you. Yeah, no problem. Yeah. I can't wait to see who you're trying to get reimbursements from because of what you're doing with where you're at right now. What? Good luck with all of that. You do that. Somebody gets fired. Remember. It's on him. It's on him. Yeah. No. You. No. Literally you. Yes. You're the, yes. No, I know you've been reading that. It has decided. Yeah, I understand. And you know what? Fuck it. Yeah. We are the reason. Yeah. I'm grateful that Info Network merged with the ESPN and you and Adam Schefter are going to be able to tag team things. Just yesterday, he said, oh yeah, junior reported that, blah, blah, blah, blah. Got done. How is the relationship with Schefter? Are you two working together until we expect that this season that you guys are both kind of feeding each other in this whole thing? Well, I would say, right after he had sent on the Vita Vega tweet that you showed just a couple of minutes ago, breaking news from Vita Vega, we had dinner. We had a lovely dinner. Hold on, hold on. Somebody just walked behind you. What do you got going on? You got people working for you, right? Listen. There's, there's, there's people here in the world. There's people. Oh, okay. I got you. Once again, he's saying, once again, I'm not on vacation. I'm on vacation. I'm on work trip. No, I'm working. I'm working. So you and Schefter had been together. You guys had a little Vino. You got boost up. We had a nice water. That's actually, yes, that is literally what happened. Sparkling water. But I had a tomato martini. It was delicious. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, it's good. What do you mean, yuck? Listen, I'm not trying to be whatever. But for those of us who have sort of like finer, refined pallets, that's the kind of thing that can be really good. Shut up. Okay, yeah. I understand. No, it's true. You're able to pick through which tomatoes are from where as you're drinking it. I understand you have that. You own horses. You do the boozing. We get it. Listen. Okay, you and Schefter Chichatto. Is there, are you guys sharing like potential news that's going to break? Do you guys talk about what you're hearing about certain situations when you get together? Is it a lot of forget about work? Let's do life together, guys. Is that what it's like? Well, I mean, honestly, like I, I like the relationship and he has been, I mean, we talked about this, but he has been awesome to me. Kind of like, open the doors a little bit to his process and how we do things. And like, you know, we definitely shared a lot of stories. And I think there's some stories that, you know, especially the way sources react and stories unfold and all that like not that many people to talk about that stuff with. So that's always fun. We combined on the Tyler Beatish news yesterday. And I mean, I would expect like this year on Sundays and, you know, for big news. We'll be sharing things and combining and kind of joining forces a little bit. And I think the football world's going to be better. Yeah, I think it's good. I think it's good for ball. We're very appreciative of that. Obviously excited for it. The top zone of game coming together to provide more details and context. Because now you guys will be able to put the deals out and the money at the same time. Because it's always like one person gets the deal. The next person gets the details. Now, you guys can say, chef, you can say per junior in me. Here's the this and here's the entire thing we're excited about. Okay, tell me what you know. about Tyler Warren because my source says in the building or saying obviously we avoided a very scary thing for the number one option for us and he should be good, right, we should be completely good. >> Yeah, I think he's going to be completely good. You know, these sort of injuries, like these soft tissue injuries are always, there's really only two kinds. There's like, oh my God, is it bad or is, is it going to be ready for week one? And this is the good kind, this is the, he's going to be ready for week one. And I think you do a good job of sort of explaining his role in this cult's offense. Like, there's a reason that some of the big time tight ends are about to get paid. Like, the Laporta's and the crafts and then eventually the Bowers. Like, these guys are hard to find, but the error we're in now and like, I don't, it's maybe random or maybe college football is sort of just morphing into growing these guys. Like, there's a couple really good ones. He is a really good one. He is going to be awesome for Daniel Jones and I expect his role to grow and I expect him to be back probably after a week or so, but none of that matters because there's nothing to be back for. He'll be back for week one, which is the only important. >> Okay, let's run the hump, shall we? Let's wrap things up with rap sheet. Go ahead, Con, man. >> Yeah, rap sheet terrible news, yesterday, Jayden Higgins, the Texans, Water Seever going into their second year tour as ACL. Now a lot of Texans fans, at least on the internet, I assume some people in the building are calling for Nick Casario to trade for K-Sean Booty, Casario came from New England, had relationships with guys still there, and now Booty would be that Water Seever that could help them immediately. Is that something that you could see the Texans doing, not just Booty, but maybe signing a veteran Water Seever or trying to make a trade for somebody else or what is the Texan situation now? >> All right. So let's go through it. So first of all, could they make a trade for a receiver? >> Yes, they definitely could, I mean, you know, if I had to, I would never bet on this, but if I had to bet on anything, I would say by the trade, by the cut down day, Nick Casario will probably do something. He is in the handful of GMs who likes to make a move and never has been afraid to kind of stick his neck out. They do have a need here, so I would say a receiver move makes sense. Booty makes sense as well, I think system wise, this would be an easy one. He has talented at various times in the year. He's been available around the time of the draft, I think, team sort of thought, or maybe this guy will get traded. Sounds like he's had a really, really good camp, so I think if you're the Patriots, you say, this would have to be a real cost, but that would be one I'm keeping an eye on. There's some other receivers that are worth discussing. Brandon Ayukh at least is worth discussing. Like he is still on the 49ers, and I'm not saying anything is coming, but I'm just saying, for every team that's going to need a receiver, he is worth talking about. He's still out there, he's still property of the 49ers, and he's really good when he's right and everything is good. You need to sit down for this? Well, I haven't had my seat up here because Blue's been here, but yes, I do need to sit down for an Ayukh conversation if he's potentially getting signed because we obviously are all big fans of what Ayukh has been able to do on a football field. And we as former players all hope that Brandon Ayukh is in a place mentally where he feels good about life and everything like that. But what we've watched publicly happen seems to be like career suicide, seemingly has been, which we don't like. We hope he's okay. But the thought of him getting into the right culture and maybe writing this entire football story would be dope. That would be a very cool thing. Is there change in the saying, the Texans are thinking about Brandon Ayukh, or it's just exciting. Well, I would just say, yeah, I don't want to say specifically that the Texans are bad. But any team that needs a receiver would have to look at. And if you're the 49ers, first of all, he's still on the, did not report list, so that would need to be rectified. But if you're the 49ers and you have them available and the contract's not going to be traded, or you'd have to work on that. But maybe the 49ers do end up getting the trade that they've wanted. We all thought it would be the commanders. It's obviously not going to be. Maybe someone would say, you know what, it's worth a late round pick to kind of take a fire on him. 49ers have held him for this reason if there is a training came injury. So I think that makes sense. He has to be right. And I don't know that he's, it's all, like this, this is why teams want to kind of keep guys with them to keep it from going the wrong way. >> Yeah, I got you. Tyree Kill, Sterling Shepherd, Curtis Samuel, Tassum Hill, I guess, unless he's retired. That's obviously a tight end in his entire thing if they need another weapon. And then obviously Brandon Iyuk. And maybe Kyle Van Neuik can play Warters here for sure. >> Sure, maybe. >> You never know if he gets in there. The thought of Brandon Iyuk ending up on an NFL team this year is just, that's fun. >> Yeah, I thought that was done. >> That's like fun. That's a fun thing to think about. >> Texans are the right culture for it. >> Yeah, Demiko. I mean, they're-- >> They could, they could, I would agree with that. >> Oh, he has. Tassum Hill. >> I mean, if there is any culture, I guess, that is that what we're saying. If there is any place that could handle it, we think New England was another place that's able to have it with variable up there, obviously. Feels like a lot of ex players are able to kind of handle the situation. You know, up there in Detroit, you know, feels like they could potentially handle it as well, because MCDC Man will actually fist fight you, not drinking as much coffee we heard. What did he use to do? What did the-- >> Two black eyes, man. Dish, Dish every morning. >> And then what would you do in the afternoon, coach? >> We usually go through about two to three cans of long cut with swallow and gut the entire thing. Two more black eyes. Dish, Dish, and then usually around five o'clock kind of finished it off of the night cap would just drink an entire pot of coffee out of the, uh, just right out of the, the, the pot itself, man. Before bed you would do that and it would, I don't fucking sleep, man. Okay. Seasons right around the corner. Okay. I heard that. But what you said black. Black. Black. Black. Black. So you're basically, you know, I'm getting just a bunch of coffee in this big of a thing as I can. Boom. Shots of espresso. Black eyes. Dish, Dish, Dish, Dish. Dish. As many as I can do, man. Yeah. That's what he used to do, right? Yeah. That's what MCDC, the head coach, the Detroit lines actually used to do. Yes. And then a doctor told him like, Hey, your heart's going to explode. Like stop doing that. You're like 50 some years old. And he cut that in half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that is obviously a little bit different going into the season. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, rap. I believe you visited the lines on your in rap report training camp tour. I don't know if you talked about the, the cutting in half of the coffee. If you didn't, that's a miss on your part. But they're also not, uh, they're not doing joint practices this year. Things are a little different up in Detroit. What was your takeaway from Detroit and did it feel like a different approach this year after missing the playoffs last year? You know, I, I really did notice that the no joint practice thing. I mean, everyone's doing joint practices, but it really felt like for me for Dan Campbell was just like no frills, no distractions, no nothing. We're going to be in camp. We're going to only do this and we're going to focus on that. And then like, that's how we're going to roll into the season. So like, you know, it's like, it's a, for like a reporter, like it's a good place to visit. They're very accessible. This year felt a little stripped down, it felt a little more business like it's fine. It's just like the kind of thing where they're like, we're going to just cut out all of the other stuff, all the other stuff and we're going to handle our responsibilities. It's going to be fine. We're not going to bite someone else in. We're not going to trap. We're just going to only do our things. Now like, is it necessary? I don't know. They're really talented still. So I think they would be fine. And I think like, you know, health wise, they're probably going to get a couple guys back in the secondary, especially when the season starts. So that's going to help to like, they should be really good. But the kind of renewed focus I did notice, yeah. >> Obviously Foxy's the one pulling the trigger on the highlights for this show. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. You see him back. He's die hard Detroit Lions fans. Some of these balls we're seeing from golf. I think a lot of us forget about, you know, especially because the Lions didn't make the playoffs last year, Ben Johnson's gone, so the Chicago Bears are the talking point. And obviously in that Green Bay Packers, I was going to be chat about who's a quarterback at the Vikings. Nobody's talking about the Lions. Nobody has been talking about the Lions. And then you see the highlights. It's like, man, golf can really spin it if they can protect them there, right? Foxy isn't that the entire. >> Yeah. The offensive line needs to be better. Last year, that was one of our biggest weaknesses. And that's why we weren't the same team, I would say overall. And then Rapshee mentioned it, health is everything. That's why I think MCDC kind of switched things up with joint practices. And then also as a fan, I know not everyone buys into this, I'm buying into the easy schedule merchants this year. I think they'll be back in the playoffs because of that. >> I'll tell you what, the Patriots certainly rode that wave last year all the way to the damn Super Bowl. And they were a much better team. But not having a tough outdoor opponent until week 17. That's a huge deal for that offense, especially whenever, have you looked crazy? Have you looked at it yet? They got Buffalo Earl. >> No, can I say? >> It's literally like week 10, yeah, here we go. >> So New Orleans obviously, Dome, at Buffalo early, September 17th, that's a good time to do that. Jets early, Carolina early, Arizona early, Green Bay at home, Minnesota at home, at Miami okay, that's not bad. Okay, home against New England, home against Tampa Bay, home against Chicago, at Atlanta's obviously a Dome, home against Tennessee, at Minnesota's a Dome. Home against New York Giants at Chicago there, I mean, that's, that's, although the last two are, that'll be very tough. >> Yeah, kind of perfect though, because it's leading into the playoffs, so if they're not the one seed, then they get like two games outside, really might have to actually go outside later on, yeah. >> Or they're on the bubble and the hardest games imaginable. >> Yeah, happy tough. >> Actually have that at the very end, they'll have to be able to practice outside, though. I mean, it's Detroit, their weather's ass. >> Yes. >> Very bad. >> They'll be able to figure that out. >> Everything's ass up there. >> That's not true. That's not true. >> That's not true. >> It's so bad. >> I've been there. >> They got good restaurants. plenty of times we owe Detroit a show actually still we did do the draft show and also I'd like to mention Detroit still holds the biggest NFL draft in the history of NFL draft we are there though there's no that's not true we're not getting into the numbers Pittsburgh Steelers just broke it with like 800 thousand people over the week yeah put on your face yeah you're lying back to you yeah I don't think you guys do I'd be one night you guys all the night combination combination remember that's kind of the is someone really counting these I mean yeah you're questioning Roger down the NFL is that what you're doing right now McCarty you're questioning McCarthy's PR I would never I would never band the 736 that I'm like are we just doing this no turn stop and oh yeah I think I think what they did was there's a space and then obviously they go off the normal sized man they picked rap yeah yeah so they had this space and then they did the math off of your dims and they're like we had two million people that's too many we got we got to cut this one down a little bit and then they dropped it back to 800 thousand that's what I heard they did but I could be wrong I don't know you are you know that sounds right that sounds right were you the dim that they were going off I was like I was kind of like you know when you like you're like in the same like when you're there's testing you from Madden or one of those things you're on the simulator and they capture your body and you're like yep this is what a regular size person looks like yes this is exactly a normal sized individual total three day tenants 805 thousand in Pittsburgh 775 thousand in Detroit pretty good though that's close yeah to previous but the difference is Pittsburgh used the rap sheet sized human and Detroit they use the big big body there like we if so fact they'll add more than yeah well I don't know you're gonna have to talk to Roger Del about that there's something coming with Nielsen Nielsen's doing something with football yeah NFL is not happy about it why are they not happy I don't assume the numbers are gonna go down no I thought they were getting a T.A.D. total audience to no I don't know no but I heard the NFL is not happy that the yesterday I read the yesterday I read that they were getting a total audience delivered thing happening which is normally whenever people are with groups like oh yeah yeah so it's like 1.2 yeah exactly that's what I read I thought but then today I heard the NFL is not happy Nielsen's changing a bunch though I think over the next couple months or year or so they didn't adjustment a couple maybe two years back on something to take in more streaming stuff now they're doing another adjustment I do believe but I think I mean as long as everybody's going off the same rating I guess everybody cares nobody knows and nobody cares they're still gonna have like the you know 95 of the top 100 you know most watched things that happened this year everybody I know watched yeah yeah that's kind of X is mine Nielsen like whenever our ratings come out it's you know it's cool thing to see but I'm like what does that mean what what is that even me are these TVs that have it is this humans that are watching it because I you know at the beginning of our time here on ESPN a lot of people saying that nobody's watching that and it's like well I don't know man feels like we are starting shit it feels like somebody's watching it somewhere and then the numbers go to it is and it's like it is this and then this place is having a new high this this is having this it's like what matters like what is real I know I don't know what's because there's so many different platforms now you know there's so many different and some platforms with hold information from going public so it's like Nielsen has a deal with these people to get their private numbers yeah right how much of the private numbers it's just you know what I mean right it's a crazy time right now to know who's watching what but we know everybody's watching the NFL basically and that's what the NFL is just trying to right I mean right like everyone I know is watching I'm kind of with you like maybe we exist in a bubble but everyone watches every NFL thing I just know like in the other parts of the world it's not like the greatest time of all time for polling like maybe there's not public confidence in polling just saying in general what are you saying but Nielsen you're better hey this is him no I'm yeah no no I'm just saying it's not maybe the greatest there have been other times when it was greater than right now I think we're just more we're more woke or more enlightened now on how things work you know and I think like the internet has exposed a lot of things because for us we are very lucky to come up through the internet or show and everything like that we're not the only ones obviously but there's like an actual scoreboard he's already boasting yeah I wish no it's too early for who yeah non-negative time you know I didn't think about it but I was like I got to be on a show so maybe maybe a little later but the internet has like a scoreboard you know like every the internet has an actual scoreboard and now are those numbers kind of fudged or screwed potentially I think inevitably we're all going to kind of figure it out who has say who doesn't who's watched who's not I think it's easy to see WNBA is coming for every other sport it what you need to know that huge numbers he talked baseball WNBA is coming for him no yeah they're coming for you stop and Nick back there coming for the NHL back there okay that's what these numbers are telling me that's that might be that's how the WNBA needs right now is to start at like starting wars with other professional sports leagues that's about the last thing they need I'm telling I've seen big numbers no no I agree and listen I'm a I'm gonna die hard fever fans so I get it but that those are not waters that they want to start playing in and as a fever fan which we are right we have all the ratings since one particular player came to our yeah exactly so you know I mean it's one of the things Leo Boston well Leo Boston was certainly on the team whenever it happened and she's all star phosphate max contract for reason yeah and she's double double machine I mean I mean she is certainly getting after it but there was this one girl came in from Iowa who just kind of every rating hey what's the second highest viewed game all the one that was following the fever game it's kind of how it's been since the entirety of it and if they can take care of that situation which is just the WNBA as a whole yeah I think they do continue to go up into the right it's got heat yeah every day they're running hot let's get back to them they're running while they're running while run hot they're hoping to haul a dash back in L.A. dude which is why he got food exactly we came back to it exactly regrets any regrets at all Hulkster maybe the leg drop really yeah that's about it yeah messed up my hips and my knees got these toy three inch pythons pressure does sleeper dude no other regrets at all no that's it that's it baby I want to run a little bit hotter with you know national and all baby I don't know thank you that was a fun doc thank you haven't we Hulk yeah I mean yeah crazy he was in here right he was right there I mean Hulkster was it was as we're fast about shoes for enough I mean the I guess the doc came out after that but was that his last live interview though it might have been he came in wearing Kevin Durant's debuts question I'm looking sure I didn't know you began the A thing yeah yeah it was incredible all right last question speaking to running hot go ahead Ty yeah rap sheet we heard all the stuff about you know Pukin Akua and then like Josh Jacobs and that all that it's kind of dissipated a little bit haven't really heard too much but are we expecting suspensions for both those guys and there might be a couple more that I'm forgetting right now but what what is like the update on both of them respectively I would say generally for these things when the legal process is done like has been finalized and the NFL gets his time to to like investigate whatever that's usually when these suspensions come so for James Pierce he had reached an agreement he was in a sort of year-long situation whatever you want to call it so then he gets his suspension and that's done the Pukin one I don't to be honest I don't know where that stands as far as like is the off-the-field stuff all wrapped up and is the NFL's investigation wrapped up it is possible but I don't know for sure the Josh Jacobs one that seems to me like it'll take a little more time all you know suspension to these things sort of come when it's final and you don't always see it coming but my sense was the Jacobs one would take a little longer just because it's not all there's still the legal process has to wrap up and all that all right we appreciate your rap good luck working up there listen it's a tough situation someone's got to do it and I'm gonna I'm gonna try thanks junior you're the man ladies and gentlemen it's your rapport yeah you some of the kids aren't there either the cow that walks in the background if you saw either a big old dog or a cow or something like a great day huge dog potentially it just looks huge blue also had eyes have you seen blue running around the day he's back yeah laying down like a good boy yeah he's been doing good down here got him nice little soft blanket sniffing around he's been eating everything off the ground play you want to say hello no no all right off my ass here's parked up a bit hey he's in he's been good boy great yeah yeah yeah everything just hang out that's great so he's so active this thing needs to run four to five miles a day there's a whole offense over there that we need to fix but after that no but he's got we got the electric oh we got the invisible defense or whatever it is so hopefully that'll work I am a little worried about whenever he's running out yeah yeah when he's going I don't know if it's going to stop him there's a chance he runs right through it but he's been a good boy came back when a whistle thought he was gone you know this morning there's a couple anxiety moments I thought he was gone forever whistle he comes right back he's been a great boy great to see you blue obviously bringing great vibes preseason football tonight huge deal age I don't know if you saw our team ride for this evening we're 2 and 0 on the year and we're not saying that these are incredibly long odds or tough things to hit it is preseason football so let's make sure we're gambling responsibly all the time but certainly for preseason football in which we know nothing if you're out of age come join us on the Best Sports Book on Earth available in all 50 states currently we just need one Fernando Mendoza passing touchdown odds are currently getting a minus 155, we've been told that they will hold at minus 155 unless some news comes like how long Fernandez like unless they get some more information that's still there that none of us will get they're gonna hold this at minus 155 which we're grateful for obviously this is a bet that we feel good about the sports books obviously don't feel great about it at minus 155 but I think Mando's gonna spin one and I'm excited for him to get some burn tonight AJ and that's kind of the story of tonight CJ is gonna get some Brock party's gonna get some Herbert's gonna get some Nando's gonna get some we don't know about Kirk that's TBD but we got four good quarterbacks at least actually playing real football tonight AJ. Yeah I'm excited to see Fernandez obviously I think it's a big big deal for him tonight he could come out and I guess really so I don't know I wouldn't say he's got a bunch of detractors but he could silence the people and make make himself some momentum I feel like towards possible being the opening day starter or is it a lock already that Kirk is gonna be well that's the question who's playing offensive line I guess we find out a lot whenever they announce who the offensive line is right that that kind of will tell us everything about where Nando's at who Nando is if it's the one offensive line playing I think we can speculate that there's still competition obviously what's going on if it's not the one offensive line that means okay that's why Kirk's probably not playing and that's how they're viewing Kirk don't you think that is something we can probably judge upon AJ. Yeah absolutely that you if you have a any kind of quarterback competition you have to have the same offensive line for both those guys you can't flip it out. This guy he had the two aligned but like in a game so yes if Fernandez in there with the ones and you're 100% right I think it's still open. Yeah I think so too at least at the moment now Brennan he can change that with how he plays tonight in that conversation can continue to evolve and everything like that but I think the offensive line that's playing will tell us a lot for all teams yeah for for all teams throughout all the preseason never gonna send the one quarterback out there without the one offensive line or at least a majority of it because we don't need that guy dying in a preseason game in the line I think is the biggest separator from like first team to like 13 okay especially with Seaball get ball a lot easier than protecting guys that are running for three's now so that tells us a lot of information Con man. Well and that's the other thing with the three preseason games it feels like we know we talked about this yesterday but one of the four preseason games it wasn't the fourth where everyone goes out it was the third now that we're at the second of three it feels like this would be the game where you give guys at least a little bit of a burn you know I don't know if the first line is gonna play just because you know like you just mentioned if the number one center or the number one left tackle goes down that is probably the biggest loss you can have outside a quarter back so yeah like Linda bomb he's the highest paid center for a reason who knows if he's going to be out there playing but you need to have guys out there and whether it's Kirk or Mendoza Mendoza we all assume will be the starting quarterback at some point for the Raiders this season so that's just going to throw them out there with nobody same with Stroud, Purdy, Herbert like they're going to have their offensive lines out there which makes me just pomp because that means we're going to see like real offensive football yeah exactly and also you know if they Houston Texans will not have their one D out there okay that has been reported who knows what other matchups we got in big boys crossing board but if offenses can move and execute that's when we've realized football is good when offenses can't move football is ass okay that's what everybody says so like the preseason first round and even the Hall of Fame game offenses were moving so it was like this good football whenever they don't move and defense is dominated by it's like this is trash football there's a chance we could see both tonight even after this after the starters are out Davis Mills has been a proven solid quarterback in this league when Stroud has not been able to play Mac Jones is going to be solid tonight trade Lance has been a pretty good and he's got a chance yeah and you know a little redemption tonight preseason quarterback so yeah I think they're going to see a lot of good offenses tonight which is great for us Texans too if you remember from us you're like they don't do the complicated stuff like wasn't that their entire thing we just line up play normal defense and beat the shit out everybody so like I assume unless they Domingo Ryan's just deciding to scheme the hell out of a week two preseason game like they might just be lining up and playing just pretty bland defense and Fernando that very smart guy credit got love the puzzle yeah I'm trying to figure it out and where I'm trying to go Dan Rolovsky is he going to be able to say 15 word plays in the huddle I don't know is he going to be able to see what's going on we talk about Fernando Mendoza the mega genius the guy we get is that who we're talking about right now yeah we just never know you never know with these guys yeah okay yeah I think with Nando we can assume his brains going to be an okay what we can assume the brain is going to be okay all the other things will he be able to accomplish naturally with this Raiders team I guess that journey is still happening joining us now is a man who obviously knows a lot about Fernando a lot about everything that happens in college sports I am very lucky to call him a teammate on college game day he hosts game day football and college game day basketball ladies and gentlemen elite journalist Reese Davis yeah Reese what up Reese oh man I'm glad to be with you guys I don't think I've had an opportunity to congratulate Boston Connor too I mean congratulations in order and a baby thank you very much better my man nothing better well also can you congratulate bone than two because he got married in a courthouse this offseason as well oh is that right congratulations there we go bone Bruce Brown Bruce Brown got married in Croatia in a movie in Croatia if you want to congratulate Bruce as well right congratulations Bruce okay thanks so much the institution of marriage is being is being furthered yeah the institution is certainly continuing to institute folks Foxies got a huge thing coming as well family was yeah I got a baby on the way very excited congratulations but try to steal my moment what the hell well also I baby Midas you you send a gift and a thank you but if you're on publicly you can stop to do that we're very happy for you guys new baby Midas what a great what a cool name man we felt we felt kind of weird though because we sent a a silver thing you know it's like well we should look and see if it should be gold we painted it don't worry soon as it got there we appreciate your Reese and Conor's thankful for you celebrate him right we're all so yeah very very very very appreciative of that even though everyone's paybacked off as well the official visit series has been awesome I appreciate you putting that out into the world obviously interviewing all the movers and shakers of college football as you've traveled around we'll dive into some of those convos in your expectations for the season but we got to talk about this five for five injunction and Louisiana thing that just took place in your thoughts obviously you are pillar of college sports I think you are somebody who does feel as if the tradition is the importance of why college football and college basketball and college sports in general our college we saw the source be thing happened in Texas tech and we saw the reaction we're watching this kind of similar reaction right now to everybody calling this is a gregis this is absurd this is obscene what are your thoughts on this I can I tell you that I've been talking about how this only being a this year thing for me has kind of settled it a little bit and I understand where these guys are coming from but it's still crazy to see Jack on the box and then he's going to be playing in college football that's like a crazy thing to imagine from a college football sports fan how do you kind of view it all and where do you sit on where we are heading just a week out from the college football season starting I I agree with you it's sort of shakes what you feel like the sport has always been about but when I sort of take a step back from a pat and I look at it as what what is college football what is college basketball particularly right now it's professional sports so what needs to happen in my judgment is there has to be a consists of consensus and agreed upon one who's eligible to play because the idea of well he played in the pros he can't come back was just another professional league it's not really that much different from a major league baseball player going down to the minor leagues or even going to the independent baseball leagues they were at a higher level at one point now they go to another professional league and while that sort of offends the sensibilities of some people to call college sports professional when guys are making seven figures is professional so I think we just have to decide all of these leagues and other sports have eligibility rules how what must you do what are the parameters for being able to play and I think that's where we have to get in in college sports the problem is is that every time somebody tries to decide that then someone sues they're giving an injunction and then we have the situations where people are being added to rosters you know in theory two weeks before we play again yeah what was the conversation it's all about getting the NCAA an anti truss anti trusses at the wording anti truss yeah so they're looking for an anti trusser that the ruling actually matters it because Charlie Baker has said for a long time since he's gotten in there especially in this world that we're in everybody says the incident of lace fault and then Charlie's like well if we do anything about anything we just lose in court and we're completely wasting our time so they can punish people for cheeseburgers like we know we can we can punish for cheeseburgers we know we can punish for texts when you're not supposed to text or facetimes or you're not supposed to face time but anything that involves employment or money or any of these other things we can't touch because like in court that we have no chance we're just done for especially whenever it's local courts that potentially you know you know he's not that when you're never say that but in these judges but in the future it could potentially happen it didn't happen yet but if it was happening in the future that could be real it's just that's what I think the entire well protect college sports act was trying to get done and then it got politicized and now they're on recess it's like I don't know Reese I'm very naive to the entire thing I thought that protect college sports act after Petitian Sanky got on board was going to go, especially with all the names that it was, especially with the being bipartisan and then instead, no, doesn't even get through the vote or whatever. And then they're going on recess. It's like, can we depend on Washington take care of this? We can't depend on the NCAA because they're saying we can't do shit anyways. It's like, how do we, I don't know, Reese, and then Pete Damell came on, first hour and said, listen, this thing's on fire, it always will be. You got to just embrace the chaos because it's not going anywhere. N.I.L. didn't start to fire. It's been burn and burn and cinch the world's been turned. It is what Pete Damell basically said. How do you view it as somebody that knows a lot more than we do about the world, but actually just kind of sitting and watching this for me, I'm starting to lose hope. And I was not like that. I was like, we can get this figure out. We have to, we have to. I'm starting to lose hope, Reese. How do you view it? I agree that it's always been chaotic. The one thing I'll say about the revenue sharing and the N.I.L., it's a more honest enterprise now. Now we know for a fact that players have value, and they're being compensated. In the past, so many people tried to pretend they didn't, and it was just about the university. And yet the players are being paid, you know, brown paper bags left under bridges and funnel through churches. There might be a rather warm judgment day for some of those back in the day who are funneling money through churches, but that's a different topic for a different day, I guess. You know, it's, it's a more honest enterprise now because people who have value are getting paid at market value. And so I think there is some good that has come out of it. The only way, look, I'm no business expert, but I think the easy answer is collective bargaining. But the problem with collective bargaining is who bargains with whom. And the players have no incentive to do so right now because they've got the hammer both with the courts and with leverage against the schools. And with free agency, every off season, basically, and the players are turning over literally now every five years. So it's like who decides who's running the player side of the CBA? Well, it's seniors now decide that, well, what are the juniors that are coming in next should don't like what they just did. How does that get settled in? It's just like, I'm a little, listen, it's a big old quagmire. I mean, it's a of biblical proportion, I would say. But the sport itself has gotten better, I think, for it all, because I think guys have become professionals earlier. So I've been able to deal with distractions better. I think they're getting more reps. Instead of like five stars sitting for a couple of years, they're all playing. I think the NFL is benefited from this. Obviously, the ratings are going crazy. There's more storylines off the field. So there is so many good that can happen, but it does feel like potentially how shakarge, you know, on the back side, how easily can somebody that entire thing and it seems like techish tech proved that the big winch coming potentially. And then now we got a ruling in Louisiana that I think we're all just kind of understanding that, yeah, if a judge wants to do something, it's just going to be the way it is, but football is going to be incredible. Let's start talking about that. Ty has a question for you about the Irish? Yeah, Reese, you know, you went around all these different campuses, talked to coaches and some other different people and, you know, magnificent series. But you set down with CJ Carr, I'm just curious. Do you think that this is, you know, Notre Dame's year, finally, there's a lot of heat behind them. And obviously, after the way things ended last year, where a lot of people thought they were one of the best teams in the country and kind of got snubbed and didn't make the playoffs, do you think, you know, I mean, obviously Ohio State's out there. We got Texas, Georgia, you know, some of these other teams. But do you think Notre Dame has just as much of a claim that they're the best team in the country and they should win a national championship this year as anyone else? Notre Dame is my preseason number one team and they're the team that I believe will win the national. Yeah, so to answer your question, yes, now the schedule was helpful to them early. They've got Miami. They've got SMU. I believe later on in the season, you will be very good. But I think the Irish are loaded. I really believe in CJ Carr. And I think this is a year Notre Dame breaks through for the first time since our late great friend, Lou Holtz, led them to the title in '88. Rest in peace, Lou, you done good, brother. We were so lucky that he liked our show. Yeah. We were so lucky that he liked our show obviously because we were able to pay tribute to him, especially Catholic schoolboy who's been doing his impressions since he's in like fourth or fifth grade and can say whatever. But Notre Dame has always had the lore, you know, has always had a Marcus Freeman seemingly has brought them into the modern age. And now they're able to, with the benefits of having boosters that have money and alumni that have money, the Irish and the Catholic and the church have never struggled finding cash. Those buildings, just the pain glass they put up there. The pain glass is very nice. Yeah, it's whatever. Yeah, exactly. So that's going to benefit them. Marcus Freeman's been able to do it. Still got to do school though. They got that brand new facility too, which is unbelievable. It can turn that out next year if they want another one. Go ahead, Reese. No, I was going to say the building that they have now and you would, what they had before was not what you would expect from Notre Dame. What they have now is industry standard. Now Oregon's got a great building. A ton of teams in the SEC do, but that plays the Shields family all there that you're taking the shot through right now is spectacular. Yeah. I mean, that's beautiful. And guess what? They can redo that next year if they will. They can, you know, she's good for them. Marcus Freeman seemingly very comfortable in his position in Notre Dame. He was allegedly offered multiple NFL conversations, turned them down because he's happy with where he's at. There is a lot of heat though around a lot of different coaching. AJ has a question for you, Reese. Yeah, Reese, obviously we know like the massive expectations that he placed upon these coaches, coaching these big time programs. I guess if you look around the college football landscape, which coach do you think has like the most sense of urgency this year and, you know, has to win, especially, you know, get out to a hot start? Hmm. I mean, that's a great question. Like, Fred, I mean, I think the easy answer people would say, Caitlin DeBoard, Alabama, I just, I don't think his job is in any jeopardy barring, you know, just some type of empty elevator shaft season. And I don't see that at all. I think they're going to be pretty good. Well, they be a playoff team. I don't know. I think they'll be good. I think probably if you were looking for somebody that has to win, it might be, it might be Shane Beamer at South Carolina, and they've had some tough injury luck right now. But I think that they have some of the pieces. I think, I actually believe they're going to win, and if they get healthy, I think they could be one of the surprise teams in the country. So those are a couple of guys that come to mind off the top. So many changes in the SEC a year ago. I'm not sure you're going to see a ton of them there. And historically, there's been a little more patience and most precincts in the big 10. So I'm not sure we're going to see quite the coaching turnover market that we've seen in years past, but any of these guys that don't do well early gold and got off to a tough start, something like that, people might say, well, he's never been a head coach and all of that type of thing. But I think for the most part, you're not going to see a lot of change at the top, barring utterly catastrophic season. I have a sneaky suspicion that golding's going to be all right. I do too. I agree. I'm listening to him talk and away his team play for him. He might have the best quarterback in the country and Winadad, oh, obviously got another injunction to come back and play, which has kind of just been one of the stories of the off season. I'm a big believer in Winadad after watching him live when we had that field pass. He is a Sunday guy, he's a Sunday guy, I think, with his athleticism. There's a lot of great quarterbacks at the top. Now we talked about coaches that can potentially turn over after the season. Interested that you didn't bring up Lincoln Riley there, honestly, at USC, especially because of potential expectations, but the big 10 is a monster and it has been certainly. So maybe there's a little bit more reprieve on that note at the top. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Reese, you sat down with Coach Signetti, which was incredible. And just listen to him just talk ball about Fernando and now Hoover being there. Is it kind of out of the realm of possibilities that Indiana is going to go back to back? It feels like they might have gotten better, which is crazy to think of with Mendoza being gone and him being the Heisman, but Ohio State, Oregon, Notre Dame, it feels like a lot of other teams are getting that like, hey, this team's going to win the national championship versus IU. And I use still top 10 teams, not like going out in a limb here, saying they can win at all. But do you feel that the back-to-back championship possibility is very real? 100%. I mean, they've got the attitude to believe that adding those two guys on defense back from one of the court rulings, and then the guys that they got in the transfer portal on defense to fill some of the holes. And I think Josh will be terrific. And Fernando's probably got a little more army, he's a bigger guy, probably moves a little bit better than Josh, but Josh has been wildly productive for a long career at TCU. And he's the kind of guy who has thrived in Signetti and Shanahan system. So I don't think that's beyond the realm of expectation at all. Indiana's schedule is probably a little bit tougher this year, but I mean, who's going to bet against that guy after what they've done the last couple of years? And Pat was right, you know, I think SC is going to be a contender in the big 10 if that doesn't happen. Obviously, things could change for Riley, and the one massive mistake I missed on the previous question is obviously Mike Norvell at four states under a lot of hate. He's got to win and play better. So that was a gaff on my part to overlook. We put you on a spot there, he didn't have a lot of time and there's a lot of, I mean, James Franklin, they were hosting game day. Yeah. They were hosting game day. Yeah. Plays show and stuff. You know, and then like three weeks later, actually fired. So he's part that he's on game day. College for, yeah, and then he was on game day. Yeah. Yeah. So college football is obviously insane. So if you were to hit every coach that could potentially be on the hot seat, we never get the show done. So we understand that. But norvail of Florida standards feels like that's been a couple years now. Shane Beamer and South Carolina. Interesting because we got chance to go down there. Obviously for game day. I didn't know it was like that down there. That place is I hope they go. And they should, right? Sellers quarterback. Obviously good. South Carolina's got dogs in their backyard. Yeah. Nick Harbor is a great wide receiver. Dylan Stewart is the edge who is not going to be ready for week one. They just announced and they got a transfer tackle from anti-staters, but they have the guys. Now their schedule is really hard. Obviously they're at CC, but they should they have a chance to go. Okay, let's talk about the SEC everybody's talking Georgia. Obviously I think it's just because we respect the hell out of Kirby and what he has going on at the quarterback position. LSU, obviously with Lane Kiff and having an opportunity. Ole Miss can obviously go. A lot of the old guard though, not really being talked about as much. Go ahead, Tony. Yeah, Reese, let's talk about the third Saturday in October. Obviously you're alma mater in Bama and Tennessee. They are two of the biggest schools right now who have quarterback battles and very similar quarterback battles into guys that are. I wouldn't say older, but have been around for longer than the five star freshmen that they are going up against Austin Mac and Keel and Russell at Bama and then phase on Brandon and George Mac entire down or at Tennessee. Have you heard anything about these right now because these are two top 15 top 20 teams coming into the season that have not figured out their quarterback yet? Kind of a big deal. Seems to be trending that both of the guys with the higher upside have made moves in recent days, meaning phase on Brandon at Tennessee and Keel and Russell at Alabama. I think the good news for Alabama anyway is I think this is a win-win proposition. One, because Dubor always finds productive quarterbacks and two, I really think Austin Mac has every skill set you would want to be a successful college quarterback and probably a skill set to be successful in the pros. He's got to win a job here or somewhere in the future, but I mean this guy, he's got a lot of, I was around him a little bit this summer. I went down and spoke to the team in June and he oozes leadership in class. I mean, he's the guy that you could get people rally behind. I think Keel and is a younger guy or less experienced guy because Austin Mac's in his fourth year of college football. He's only 20 years old. I mean, he came to Washington at like 16. So I think they're going to be, I think they're going to be fine regardless of which way they go. Tennessee's a bigger question, but I would say the same thing out of set for Dubor. You could say for Hypo, whoever plays quarterback for them, they figure it out pretty quickly and have been productive. He has not had a problem finding a productive quarterback. Reese, I can't wait to see you on the road. We'll see you down in Back Rouge brother. Thanks for having me guys. Have a great day. See you guys later. Emmy award winning host Reese Davis. We have a hard out. Reese understands that. Hey, Reese certainly understands that. We will continue digitally. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a front of friends. I'm nice. My change in life. Goodbye. Oh, you see, we took off the bottom count down there. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's okay. Hey, listen, that's all we need a day after a hard out. Yeah, we need that a little test. Yeah, it was a little bit of a test. It was pretty good. It is pretty season. Yeah. Yeah, it is actually. Yeah. Huge one tonight. Couple huge one. A lot of good players playing football tonight. Yeah. Very, very excited about that. And also before we take a break before the final hour. Sure. The Stogs doing great. Great. Yeah. Stogs doing unbelievable. Now he's laying down here. Yeah, he's been back here. He was up here. He's been around here. We'll never got a drink for himself. Okay. They don't have to get it for him. They don't have to tell him to go do it. Office dog now. Could be, man. Got a drink from for himself, like Adam Sink. Or do you have a dog boy? No, he don't have a dog. Drinking foul. Yeah. Hit the button. Actually, that's better than the talk. Yeah. That's what this type of dog can do. I could see that happening. But did he teach and talk? How to use the drinking gun? Well, talk does the bottle in the back. So he puts it down and then hopes that the sensor hits. There's no way talk to do the push. No. No. No. thing. But blue gets right up there. Punches that thing with his front two paws. And I was liking it. So that's his type of dog. That's what this dog does. I guess he's a super genius. That's what people say about these types of dogs. Like very, very smart. Kind of preckish without smoke. Yeah, can open every single type of door. We have a side latch, like sideways latch that you have to like pull out difficult to open. He's figured out to put his, like you got to pull it sideways to open something. He's figured out to put one paw up, other paw around. Open this entire thing, especially if there's food on the other side. This fucker is going to get to it. You know, that's kind of his life. Good job, A blue. You know, good job, A boy. I appreciate you out here. You know, he did not just terrorizing the house because you got so much energy. So terrorized the thought. You run him this morning? He ran outside. Yeah, ran outside. Pretty good amount. He's running around here. He was running back and forth, obviously, so much room to explore. And then also he saw a bone. This guy used his cattle, his cattle herder. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He kept doing circles around bone. Just kept hitting him with his head, you know, doing this number here. You know, and then I was like, it's not really lights. But yeah, certainly that's not that big. I'm not a cop. He's not he's on his way right now. Actually, they're doing the more door walk. Yeah, we got. Motivated bone to do a more door walk challenge down on the app. It's connected to his Garmin. We're on our way to more door about, I want to say 1780 miles ago. Okay. So it's 18 because we're less than 143 miles from leaving the shire. Okay. So the shire is where you started. Uh huh. Okay. The way he worded that was absurd for some of us that maybe don't understand what's going on. But you guys had how many days have you started your pilgrimage to the Ring Lord? One day into the pilgrimages more door. Okay. You're head the more door, which is where you take the ring that you got from the Hobbits and the creatures to destroy because we don't want the ring because rings two power evil power. You need to get rid of that. So we're walking that fucker 1800 miles. That's right. So that the bad guys can't see us. That's why we're walking. We're sorry on that and all this. So I'm getting his army ready. Okay. And we're sorry. He's at the Ring Lord. He's behind you. He's in the bad, he's in the bad guy area, the bad castle. Oh, so there's during these treadmill walks on this road to more door. You guys are going to run into some battles. Oh, a lot of trials and tribulations. What type of weapons do they have swords, bows? Okay, because we're going to make this realistic in here like you guys are walking. I think there should be. The Hobbits is going to bring in a bone arrow. He said the Hobbits don't really carry weapons. They got little tiny daggers because they're they're more for stealth. So we're going to have to have Ty be arrogant. Maybe he comes in with a sword. I know Bruce is already joining them on their journey, but they got a ways to go until they're going to get to me. Yeah, still got like 180 miles until we get to our reinforcements are kind of the fellowship of the ring. If you know, now this is Lord of the Rings. Okay. 17 different Oscars. It is one total. Yeah. Best movie it has one. Yeah, the last one one. Best picture. The third one. Wow. Yeah. I didn't know that. Did you know that? He's tied tied for most Oscars of all time. I mean, what I want to make was nominated for like 14 and one like 11. Jeez. These types of movies don't normally just like win, right? It is not typically, but this is like one of the most beloved series of all time. And for the longest time is like, how are they? We're going to make this thing into a movie and then Peter Jackson said, I'm going to figure it out. And he did. And I mean, this thing was a smash it. You know, and then they now they re-release it all the time in theaters and stuff. I had spawned a bunch of spin-offs and a bunch of, I mean, it's just crazy stuff. My mom loved love. I think she read the books. The books. Yeah. Very big, right? Yeah. Yeah. Very. I mean, they made three movies out of the first book, like the prequel book, which was just one, not three. Jeez. Is this walk like a common challenge that Lord of the Ring people do? I don't know about the challenge itself, but I do know people go to New Zealand and like very specifically walk the, like, the sets of where they filmed all the Lord of the Rings movie. Are you guys following the topography? Are you going up and down inclines or are we flat the entire time? I think right now we're just doing flat. Like if there's a side walk through middle earth. You've been walking with incline? Yeah. I've been doing incline, but I don't think it's, it's not based on the topography because it's, I mean, there's one thing. Yeah, but you need to say you've been doing incline. I've been doing incline. Bone is walking on regular treadmill. We like that he's moving at all. Yeah, we like that he's doing it. Put a weight best on to it, times. That's what he does. As the journey, as the journey goes on and the ring gets heavier, that's when the weight does will come on. Oh, we don't like that way. He's talking about bone, but I do like to bone finally looked in the mirror and said, I got to do something. And if Lord of the Rings was the reason it got him into it, I don't care. I'm happy about it. And we're going to publicly pressure you guys to finish this walk. And we will. And it's going to take over a year. Okay, I didn't know you guys were just like 1800. Yeah, strictly math wise. I mean, it will take over here. We need to start hitting our treadmill a little bit early and late in the day, you know, we need to start. But see, like that's when that's when the walking time of the show, the point of it will get lost if we do something like that. Then it doesn't become for us. And it doesn't become fun. Yeah, like part of like just being healthy. When you guys had today, today, we're just trying to get to the first pub. I'm not sure exactly what it's called. I know bone knows all the names of this shit. I don't per se, but I know there's some pub that we're like halfway to that we need to get to. Hey, you're going to have fines when he gets a fine. No, I mean, that also will kind of, you know, do we walk so that we can then be bombs and drink. Yeah, that's kind of the whole part of the journey. You're kind of I think I think that's what we're going to do. more of the points just to get in better shape. So I don't know if we're at the point of, hey, let's drink pines at the end of day two. Let's get to day 21 and then drink pines. Yeah, but if you get to the ivy bush, you got to have a pint. Well, I mean, the ivy bush does have the best logger and all the shire. It's just, I don't know if we're there yet. What about the green dragon in? You need to stop buying, have a pint of the green dragon in. Actually, we got to be on our piezing cues on the green dragon and some weary travelers just to go through there. So we don't want to get boozed up to block stops. Yeah, you got to remember these hobbits are very, very, very small. So like one flag and ale and they're going to incredibly boozed up might not be able to walk for a while. Okay, so you guys got to get a size of a pint that's in proportion to what the hobbits would have. So we need you to have maybe an entire pitcher. Yeah, well then they boost. So it'd be like two pictures. These hobbits, you know, they don't just go up bone. I mean, he might have to drink a keg. Yeah, true. I mean, that would be to size. Let's get to a break. I'm proud of you guys. Then again, we're going into the John Schneider. Like we don't want bone to be doing this just so you can drink 30 beers at night. We want to we want to all be doing it. It looks like it's working out for John Schneider. Yeah, for sure. He seems like him and his body have a little agreement. Okay, I'm going to do what I'm going to do tonight. Then I'm going to do what I do during the day. You guys figure it out in there. And it seems like they're doing it. Yeah, he's wearing titles doing that shit. No, no. Very loud. I don't know how he's on the phone. We have a walking treadmill here. Bayley McCullough is going. Yeah, yeah. Obviously Bayley McCullough is going for his office. He said he couldn't use it because it wasn't efficient. So I said, you know what? I'm going to do it because I start seeing other people that were doing it. I said, why don't you get what you know what? I'm going to do this. This is what seems like smart people do who are very busy and have a lot of bullshit type work that they have to do. You can multitask while getting in shape. Schneider's got a cowboy watching film. He's on a phone that goes shade in a future deal while also getting his steps in and putting his shots up. I'm really impressed by this. The walking treadmill we got here so loud. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. It was so every step too. It was just another round, round, round, round. It was thin. Yeah. I had to walk like tiny, right? Like I was like a very tight, tight walk. And so watching him do it because guys do Peloton. Guys do Peloton in your offices. This is the first walking treadmill we've seen in there. But I like that he's just figured out how to kind of balance the body in the mind and the spirit and seems like at the same time. We've seen Mr. Schneider here put on a pretty impressive feet. Okay. I mean, I should remember talking to each other for two and a half hours. Yeah, this close. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far. You guys wear this close to each other. There's loud. I mean, I want to remember this guy's got to say he's one two super moles. I do like that. You whenever you get a little boozed up, absolutely hysterical. You do come in for the real thing though. You know, you do come in for the real thing to make sure we're really Schneider feels like the same way. So we knew two were kind of making sure you both could hear each other. We were viewing from afar. Just so proud. Just so proud of what was happening at that thing. And we know how big of a moment that was for you with Mr. Schneider. It's huge. But I think for him also. We had a great discussion. We had a great time. He's a good time. He has a good time. I was a good time. That's why I think McDaniel or McDonald's. Sorry, geez. So many mix out here. Amen. McDonald had to be a guy, right? If Schneider's iron him, we should have assumed that it was going to be the right move. Right? I think now it all happened. It was Pete going out like yeah, he had to be very confident, but he found his guy. Yeah, now that we kind of know Schneider a little bit more and everybody starting to show him a little bit more respect in the history of ball and what he might be like greatest GM, one of the greatest GMs of all time. It's like him moving and kicking Pete carrow out of the building. After kicking Russ out of the building, after kicking a legion, a boom out of the building. Like those are a lot of very hard decisions, but you have to have, you know, forethought on what the future could look like. Because if you just kick everybody out that does everything and you get worse, your ass is getting fired. Instead, he was able to do all that, have the vision, deal with the tough stuff, take the shots on the shins and then move forward into a different era. And the ownership group was like thank you. Yes, sell. And then the new ownership comes in. Is this guy staying? Yeah, sweet. So he'll just do the football thing and I just got to do it. Yeah, you got it. It's like he has been very beneficial to the Allen family. He's been very beneficial to the Seahawks and he's been very beneficial to the league in being like a blueprint on how you can go from one era to the next and have success both times. Not easy to do. He has somehow threaded the needle. Good for him out there while he's walking on that fucking treadmill. Not easy to do it all. I mean, like, like, can you say, have the coach been trying to do that ever since Peyton has been gone? Like there's so many teams that are trying to figure out to do what they do. But I think a lot of it starts with his talent evaluation. That dude knows how to draft like he, he seems to draft the right people and plug them into place. I don't know what you're pissed off. I didn't say anything bad. Well, there's just no reason to bring up the coach. There's a lot of time. I'm just thinking of, you know, hard is to transition from like a great era of the franchise to like move to the next era. It is a tough decision to have to be made still doing it here. Patriots figuring it out right now and real time. We're watching it happen. Good for them. Pittsburgh Steelers are in the middle of whose post Ben Rothschmerger going to be the guy Aaron Rogers. So Mason Rudolph, we'll talk about that. On the other side, we'll wrap up all the news that's happening. Seems like there's a clear cut number two quarterback in Pittsburgh. It's not one of the young guys. No, it's not who is a coach. Listen, I love, I'll sing up and make some Rudolph. I said that last year. I was impressed with this guy's doing so. Mason's not going to play. Well, maybe they don't want him to get a hurt. So we can trade them. Whoa, Tony. So much fodder. So many angles. We'll see which one's accurate. Which one's not. Be a friend, tell friends. I'm nice and my change their life. Take five. Is the greatest in tonight. We have a preseason. Are you okay? Are you okay? Yeah, I'm trying to time it up. I'm a little bit delayed. I was trying to say it a bit early. I don't know how it is. It timed up at all. That one sounded like it was a little bit off by all parties. Do we want to go back to the top or do you want to let us know? Are you going early or late here? I was trying to go early on this time. Okay, let's go from the top. So this time, go early and then we'll tell you if that's the right. What's that? What were you said? Oh, that way we're doing so. I thought that one. Yeah. Yeah. So tell us if you're early or if you're going earlier. What's the, this feels like a bit. This feels like a scheduled bit that I don't know about. But I'm all in. I'm in. I'm playing. It's the preseason. We're trying to get ready for the regular season called practice. You're right. It's called practice. Not perfect. See how let's do it. I think okay. So you're going to go early in your mind and we'll tell you if it's on time or if you need to go just a little bit later. That's what the mindset is going into this rep, right? Yep. Join practice here. Okay? Yep. From the top, please Foxy. Let's go. Why? That's gross. In the fact that you listen. You're going to say it too though. Stop. I can tell something. You pay. Dear friends, other friends, something nice to change their life. Hello, beautiful people. And welcome back to our Humble the Bone. The Trap Kings Dunderdome on this Monday night football Thursday August 20th, 20th, 20th, 26th, out through the program begins now football. That's about now we know that we have heard that you're giving because I know what we're talking about my volume. I just I thought you guys were joining me. What happened? No, we were wanting to know if you were on time or not. Nobody told you they were joining you. Nobody said anything. You need to do your job. Okay? Let's not worry about what everybody else doing. Let's just do it. I'm trying to time it up with you guys. That's what I'm saying. I go early to try to time up with you because if I go out when I hear you guys say football, it seems to be a split second late. Yeah, if that's your volume, it doesn't matter. You might as well not even say it. Okay. No, but you need to say it. I'm going to continue to say it. I am going to continue to say it. Okay, but we would like you to just confidently say it because it's not like that one had a lot of questions. No, there's no questions. I try to say it quietly so I can hear you guys to see if I time myself off. But we're going to be the ones that are going to tell you if you're on right. That one felt like the timing good volume bat. Oh, okay. All right, good. I wasn't worried. I wasn't trying to get the volume right. I was trying to get the timing right. The band. Did he want more? I can always use one more reps of what gets everybody better. Let's do that extra rep. Let's do that extra rep from the top, please. Here we go. This show stands. In the fact that you listen, we are very, very thankful. The all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. You pay! Damn it! It's different. Other friends have the nice to change their life. And welcome back to our humble abode. The draft came stoner to on this Monday night football Thursday. On this 20th, 20th, 20th, 26th, hour three of the program begins. You're a little early, just delayed a tiny bit there. That's the end of the talks. It was here at Boston Conor and at Tishman. One out of the hammer. God, Cowboys, AP, tone is here. I think you need the delay like a half a second. Okay, I'm always working. Always working on it. Absolutely. First time we did that, Blue was in a different part of the Thunderdom. Second time he was standing. Third time, this guy's sitting like a perfect statue. Now Jabba, those kind of getting a little bit warm. Stop, Jabba, stop it. Come on, yeah. Hey, Jabba, let's go. Bye, good. [BLANK_AUDIO] He's gonna hurt this thing right here. Let's make sure we're acting right. Okay, let's make sure we're going where we're supposed to be going. Little job, a blue has been fantastic in here. I must say, I've been impressed by this dog and how he has acted. Very comfortable over here, hanging here, talking to everybody. Just told me you need to go outside and pee during the break. Talk him outside to pee. Start running the land a little bit. I hit a little whistle to him. He comes running right back, comes inside, jumps right onto Gumpy's chest, white shirt muddle. (laughing) So, it was a nice little break there. Happy Gump Day, by the way. Happy Gump Day, gump boy. Had to change the chart there, because blue got a little excited, eh? Perfect, Prem starts tomorrow. Liverpool on Sunday, here we go. Okay, Prem's happening, AJ, what does that mean? Yeah, soccer. What was that? I didn't know that. That is exactly right. Prem, so the league below the league is starting. No, premier is the one in England. What's the champions? Champions League is all the leagues in Europe. So that's the all-star of the leagues. Yeah, it doesn't start for a month or so. And you got to do good in Prem to get two champions. So, really? Next year, yeah. You got to do good in Prem this year to be in champions next year. It's Ryan Reynolds team and Robbie Mac. Where are they? They're in the championship, one below. Oh, they've come up quite, I think they were like, what? The championship, you got the championship to Prem and then the champions league? No, no, no, no. Yes. That's just champions in Prem. That's just champions in champions, okay, okay. Yeah, why don't we name all the same thing? That sounds good. They're the all-star champions. Yeah, they're the all-star champions. I guess that Rexim will never be in the Champions League. What? Maybe in the Prem, though. Maybe the Prem. I feel like they might hit a wall in the championship this year. It's a tough league to play in, but we'll see how it goes. On a championship is filled with Prem teams that have been relegated. You know, because bottom three are going down to the championship. Top four going up to Champions League, AJ. Obviously, everybody knows that. Bottom three, championship league. Top four, Champions League. Bios hanging out in the Premier League, which is England's Premier League. Now, there are other leagues, the Bundesliga, which is Germany's Premier League. La Liga is another one. They have the French formulae where all the teams are asked, but they talk a lot, right? Is that not a league? Just P.H.G.B. to shit out everybody, Liga. MLS would do it, too, I believe, the French League, right? I don't know if I go that far, but. I didn't do it properly. I'd say we'd cook the MLS. The ISG's won the Champions League back to back season. I'm not so convinced that you could throw the MLS, let's take the best six teams in the MLS. You could have complete high school soccer in Indiana, and I'm not so sure the MLS six teams would. There might be, you know, like, I don't know, like Bishop Gittard here in Indy. They might win the state championship over like a, you know, L.A.F.C. or. What? You think our American high schoolers are better than our MLS league? From what I'm seeing on the pitch lately. Yeah, I'm not so sure that's not the case. Well, all stars are getting regulated in the program. It's called relegated, I believe. They're getting regulated on the pitch, too, though. Regulators. Mountain. And they did that last night. I don't know if you saw Philadelphia Union, one of the solvents, Form Tackle on Cush. This way, we're not happy at all about what just happened. You know what I'm going to do about it? You know, yeah, I don't think so, but you want to step over me, I don't think he's a little brother. He's about to jump in right there, Sullivan. He was 16 years old. I think signed to the Philadelphia Union. He's got punched in a face. Just kept eating and kept moving forward. We like that. He's a teenager. He's young. He's brother right there goes at Form Tackle. See, this is what's coming. This is what the French league could never solve in picking guy. High. We, we, we. Yeah, I think that would certainly be something Bonjour, Overwatch, what the Sullivan boys are saying over there, but I think that is not a great thing that that's the biggest highlight out of your league. I would agree. Because if we're going crazy about, you know, that takedown where he tries to like squeeze the guys nuts before he does it, I don't know if that's what we want to, you know, write home about and say, wow, this league's awesome. Well, how about Messi scoring that? He did a little. Yeah, but again, he's down here at the bottom. Messi. He makes it look like, you know, he's playing against soccer shots. Like they're doing a daycare. I hear that my daughter's in like that. It looks like that's who everyone else on the field is. And then you have sweet Lou Messi. He did that in the world cup, too, just he couldn't get a ball in the finals. Like Spain didn't let him even touch. I don't think he touched the ball in the finals. But in the MLS, every once in a while, the ball gets over to Messi and he makes everybody look like children. Would he do that in every league? I mean, yeah, he made best of all time, you know. I told you, I'm just, I know we used to do this where we, like, like the MLS is, you know, the top league in the world. It's not. It's a horseshit league. I'm sorry. I wish it was on. Soccer Don Garber. He's done his best. He's tried his best. And that's before we go to, you know, the Premier League schedule and we got, you know, them playing soccer in Chicago when it's 20 below in chill in the middle of winter. And then we'll really see no one watching. There was an hour and a half to lay in Orlando last night as well, due to rain or they got back. It's just, they had their, they had their moment in the sun. When we beat, what, what was that team, the first game? Who'd we watch? Pottaquay. Pottaquay. Oh, no, I'm not even talking, you know, because that, that does not matter until the next one. And quite frankly, you know, even with us getting punched back, it doesn't matter that neither because we're not going to win. But, um, Kevin Solven, that guy's, yeah, he's so good. That's why the Fuxi playing in the MLS, because you know what I'm noticing, they're signing the motion. That's it. Yeah, guess what? Let me and you all was fucking start for Barcelona when he was 15 and that's it for that. That's it. That's it. That's it. We don't fucking have that. So I'm done. I'm done. Now, if Bobby Boenga, sure, wants to rescind wherever he's from, I don't know, he's kind of a man of donation, a beast of donation, if you will. And he wants to come play for the United States now granted, don't correct me if I wrong. I think he might be like 37 by the time the next one, 31, he'll be 35. Yeah. That's fine. Tim Rimm. Well, LAFC isn't fucking playing him. So it doesn't matter. They got the two best players. Of course. There's the two best players. It's a prime. So the 64th minute cost me my goddamn parlay. All right. We did soccer. Yeah. Say it's not even Bobby. What? No, no, no, no. It's like Dennis. Yeah. You guys have been talking about this guy for months. He says I'm Bobby Blame, though. Okay. So Bobby Blame was the name that I had hurt only from you guys. Yeah. And you, you can, you can speak of this man. And I learned a lot about him. This guy's a player. He is a player. He's an absolute stallion of a player. And his name is not even what you guys call him. Can you, can we show Mr., is his name? Boenga. Dennis, Dennis Boenga. Dennis Boenga. His teammates. Bobby Blame. That doesn't really roll off the tongue. You know what it does? Bobby Blame. Bobby Blame. Bobby Blame. Bobby Blame. Yes. It's probably like Denny or something like that. It's Bobby Blame. He needs. He is French or so. So Denny. Yeah. Exactly. Denny Blame. No, it's LA in the MLS. Yeah. LAFC. It's nice. You know, LA Galaxy. See, that's what I'm saying. That's a good place in MLS. He's from France. He's getting a time. He scored in the final, right? Or the third place game? No, I think it was only the other guy. What's his name? Mappi? Yeah, there it is. Mappi. All right. That was good soccer. I'll tell you what. We'll probably stick around soccer every time it comes up going forward until we've just really pissed tie off. You know, because we got there in boy. That was the goal. And it's up. And he scores, as Greenie would say. Yeah. It is what he said. Greenie loves the beautiful game. You can really tell. The best he's down here at the bottom. And he gets it. And it's up. And he scores. All right. That's what Greenie said. It was gorgeous. It was one of the best reads I've ever heard Greenie have. I was dying laughing because he wanted to say it's up and good because it was a kick. But then he was like, ah, it's not a field goal, though. In mid-sentence, you could tell he was trying to, nah, not the right decision. Not with this word. While trying to show respect to the greatest of all time, that was funny. I do think Messi has been a success story for soccer as a whole in America. But man, the way the US team ended, I think, is going to be something. And then the MLS goalies like whiffing and goals going in, it just, they're getting their season out there. They're back. Messi's back. The playoffs. Get close. Yeah. Inter Miami's got to figure it out. They're struggling right now legitimately. Fuck! Is that his first game back? Nah. Second, they lost four, one the other night. And they're in it. They finally switched goalies from that fucking guy who just lets everything in for no reason. So that was good. Connor, I didn't know you had affiliations like that. I just didn't realize they were fucking struggling. I mean, none of this should matters. Basically almost 90% of the stuff we've been talking about for the past six months doesn't matter in seven days. And then it really does matter in 20 days. That's where I'm at. Okay. We got preseason tonight. I don't even give up. If it was the World Cup final tonight or Raiders versus Texans, Texans, I'm watching preseason week two Raiders Texans. Yeah. So that's all the fame game numbers. Yeah. We'll tell you the story about how America feels about our league and our sport. We do appreciate what soccer did. Give us a lot of run. Give us a lot of that. Stop these obviously all in, but it is tough to continue to do soccer talk, especially after you get tied to. - Exactly where we were trying to go. There was a North Star in that conversation and we ended up at it. And now there's a night filled with great quarterbacks playing the best sport to ever be created. As Fernando, we think he's gonna get a lot of rub from what Clint Kubiak head coach of the Raider said. Now is that like he's one quarterback and they're doing it to see what he does. He's number one quarterback and then Kirk comes in, Kirk cousins to be determined. I don't know if there's been any updates since we've been live, but there's no update there. Is this just kind of like, let's give a run with Nando, who's he playing alongside? And then CJ Stroud probably a series or two, but nobody on defense is playing. So you'd assume that Nando should be able to have a little bit of success, but Houston Texans defense is the best in league or the backups also that. We shall see Dougie Davis-Mills will play. He's an experienced NFL quarterback. He can move the ball if he needs to. Brock Pertie obviously has stood a very paid made man from the San Francisco 49ers, earned it out of Iowa State as the last pick of the NFL draft, now leading the San Francisco 49ers against Justin Herbert and the Chargers. This feels like a big night of ball. Like if this was week 10 and this was happening in a back-to-back primetime matchup and we had Fernando versus CJ Stroud in Brock Pertie versus Justin Herbert, we would be very fucking excited. So we got to count this as a massive win on Monday night football Thursday, August 20th, 2026, which is what you wanted us to be discussing this entire time tie. - Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I mean, especially now when the preseason and training camp has kind of gone on a little bit and you kind of, it wears off, especially if it's your team. You get very excited about the few guys and then you see different highlights. We're at the point now where you're kind of getting a little bit better of an idea, like okay, this guy actually might make an impact this year. This guy, he's come a long way from what I saw last year. And then again, just at this point, even for Herbert and Pertie, they might only get one series, but like last week watching the Packers Steelers, like that one series that Jordan Love got, like that's really all I needed to see. It was like, okay, it looks good. I'm in a better spot now than I was before this game started with all the new pieces and everything. So if you're a fan of either one of those teams or just a fan in general looking to watch some good football, that's enough of a carrot dangled in front of you that like, it's worth investing your time watching these games. - Joint praxis happening, Bears, Bangles, Bills, Browns, Eagles, Patriots, Falcons, Colts. I wanna let you know, social media team for the Colts put not some highlight. - Here we go. - I saw the Forest Buckner just move in bodies. I saw him go and absolutely crazy. I saw Danny Dimes make it to place. Buck, whenever he's hurt, we don't play good. So last couple of years, he's been out for some significant - Time. - We have not been good at football whenever he doesn't play. When he plays, we've been very good at football. And I think some of the injuries like, is it worth him playing? Is it not worth him playing type situations? But when he's on the field, we are very, very good. Him and Grover next to each other, fantastic news. I like seeing this against the Falcons and we'd like to welcome Buck all the way back. Here's Josh Downs cooking. Hi. See you later, how you doing? Now Danny Dimes hits him with a ball, Josh thinks he could turn around and go back for it. Great route here. I mean, just route it up. Old buddy, I like the number 13s back out there. Looks like T.Y. Hilton. Here's Dolan, I believe. Catching it's like Danny Dimes won't crazy today, sort of the offense. This is all you need in preseason. Just a couple of highlights. Just a little bit of hope that your team can be great. Now on the other side, what they're saying about the Falcons, not good, you know? - It might be the worst team in the NFL, they're saying at one position, you know? - Yeah, I mean, the people that have been waiting to go after two who are maybe a part of the Miami Dolphins fan base, they're certainly finding the reasons with what reporters are saying. Kevin Bowen, who is local radio host here in Indianapolis, he did a selfie, break down a practice, and was like, Danny Dimes, 14 to 14 offense move, and Tyler Warren, a little bit of a scare, but he should be good. Atlanta, trouble. I mean, two are not good. And then that obviously got picked up in Atlanta, more so than it did here in Indianapolis. Here's his video right here, little. This is what the look was. This thing goes mega viral in Atlanta, and then probably down there in the Dolpham community, if I had to as well. Kevin Bowen, good man, has done a lot for the City of Indianapolis. From Indianapolis, love is the quotes. We appreciate his reporting, but all good coming out of quotes, seemingly all bad coming out of Falcons, but that's just one day. That's kind of us living and dying literally with every single highlight or low light that comes out with our team. And I think that's why this year's preseason, for me, has been a bit more special for you as a Patriots fan. It feels like there's a new highlight every single day. - Yeah, it's been incredible. They've also done the joint practices, like Tony and I were just talking, it's nice that the Patriots have had this the last two weeks in the Colts, the same exact thing, like there's actually stuff that you can compare to and react to. Obviously there's other drama contracts out with Gonzo and stuff like that, but watching Drake May throw the ball to AJ Brown, to Romeo Dobbs, like these new guys who are going to revamp the entire team so much has been huge. And then also just even on defense, like being able to watch your team play against a different offense is so nice because usually, if it's offense versus defense, you've mentioned this before, like you just want the offense to do well and you don't really care if it's your defense struggling, but being able to actually root for your own defense against another team's offense. I mean, that's the best part. And then if you're Atlanta, if anything, this is kind of good news, right? 'Cause if Tua starts the first couple of games and he stinks, at least find out about Pentax. Like at least you get a chance to learn like, okay, his Pentax is gonna be our guy, 'cause even for Pentax, like he hasn't really had a fair shake or been healthy enough to really play enough where you know, so if he stinks, then it's the fans he gets to do the quarterback thing again and be the co-head coach every six more years. - Yeah, we'll see how the Atlanta Falcons had a Matt Ryan, Kevin's the fan. He'd assume the offense will get figured out. You know, you would assume. - He paid a lot of money, he's gonna say. They got a lot of weapons. - Yeah, Bajon Robinson, obviously, people saying best running back in sport is behind you, Cal. Pits obviously out there. They, uh, can I get it going, we shall see. Maybe Tua's just trying to catch up the offense. So this is training camp. We gotta remember that, AJ. We say it a lot. - Practice. - Practice. - Yeah, trying stuff. - We were just doing it. - Trying stuff, ain't it? - Trying to. - It is hard though. It is hard not to over-act both ways. Like in a positive manner and a negative manner. If you see, like, if you see in here, of one tough day, like, oh man, they're screwed. And then I'll say the next day is good and we're back on track. - One tough period. I mean, we've watched, uh, one on one for the Colts Patriots in the Patriots offense. We're just cooking our corners. That gets put on the internet within 10 minutes of it happening. And I think we're losing every game of the year. Like that was my immediate reaction just how bad it was. And then they're like, actually, by the end of practice, you see about 15 periods later, the Colts really started to actually dominate. It's like, okay. I like hearing that news. Us having Shane's liking on immediately after that practice was a beautiful piece of, you know, just kind of football storytelling, I think. Shane, I heard we're getting killed earlier. What? No, yeah. I guess I would have to watch the film on the one on ones. We just finished four touches. What are we, what are we exactly? I didn't see any of it, okay? So maybe we should put more of it out. I think it's only a matter of time before there is full live stream with commentary of these joint practices, probably on NFL network if I had to guess. And that is me just saying that I've not talked to anybody who actually makes decisions. But it feels like the emphasis on joint practices that's coming from next CBA, they will be where you see the stars play and the preseason games are gonna become, you know. Now owners like it because the owners like the preseason games 'cause those tickets are still tickets, you know, to those games. So they're gonna have to figure out how to do the joint practices in places where they can sell tickets. I'm sure Jerry Jones will be able to figure that out before everybody else. But that feels like that's gonna be the future of what we follow. It's not just gonna be social teams getting clips out. I assume it's gonna be live stream. And I assume there's gonna be deals made between coaches and the networks on what's allowed to be shown, what's not allowed to be shown. Hey, in this period, we can't be showing this. Got it, we'll go to this side. We need something over here then, you gotta be doing. So I think that's the next evolution of all this shit and what it becomes. And to be honest, that'd be great. You would see all the studs. All the studs have to take on the studs and those. And you also get situations, hey, we got two men drew, we did it up there at Steelers camp. We're like, all right, here we go, 147 left. And that was just us guessing and pontificating on what was happening 'cause they didn't have refs. It's like, that shit's all good. And I think that's only a matter of time for that's what we're focusing on. - Yeah, like Packers Family Night. You could see them just doing Packers Family Night, but with join practices, then you still get guys in the stadium, you're still selling concession and everything like that. So that would be cool. It will just be interesting to see if they just completely get rid of the preseason. Like, all those preseason games are gone and there's only one at the end of the year. - Maybe like a showcase one for all the guys are on the bubble, but like a bubble game or something. - Yeah, and when do you do that? Do you do that like this weekend? Where then there's still two weeks to the season or 17 days, whatever it will end up being? Or do you do it 14 days away? Like just to see how they do the preseason. - I'll be excited to see Roger Cadel tell these people that what we're thinking is two joint practices for every team and then we'll do one bubble game at the end. - In Australia. - Players are gonna hate the joint practice must. Players are gonna hate it. - It'll be in some of them being primed on too, you know? - Joint practices. - Joint practices. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Morning ones too, 'cause some teams go morning. I mean, that could be a, I mean, joint practice. - Move them to the primetime window too for certain days. - Hey, we need you too. You guys need to be night prex in, 'cause you guys might have a night game, right? Yep, that's on you guys when you go. So you can sell it to your team on why you're doing night prex's. So we don't really give a shit that you don't like it. We're doing night prex's, 'cause you're preparing for primetime games. So way to go. And we are gonna be streaming that with 10 cameras. We're bringing 10 cameras to this thing and we are gonna be showcasing it. 'Cause I think those practice reps, as somebody that got to watch a lot of it, a lot. A lot of practice reps, I've got to watch. It's electrifying. - Yeah. - It is way better than the combine. Look at the combine numbers, like two. Joint practice is much more fun to watch. - One-on-ones going. - When you stagger them all day. - Running back linebackers, one-on-ones, nobody who talks about that. 'Cause right now we see his wide receiver corners. You hear about offensive lineman ones. Running back linebacker ones might be the most vicious out of all of it, don't you think, AJ? That's it. - Oh, nasty, I've watched dude's careers end in that drill, yes. - Facts on the DTE. - Oh, okay, well, potentially, but I thought you meant like they get exposed that they're not going to be able to handle what they have fell is, because I've seen a few of those too where it's like, okay, that guy just got said, this ain't the lead for me, linebacker and running back, both of them. - Yes. - This happens both ways, yeah. - The linebacker comes running in, got it, and a running back goes, helmet to jaw, boom, right on back. - I actually see the linebacker go, this one's, this is immensely here. - Wow. - They just kind of walk this one off, or running back just getting actually steamrolled and finding out, UFL is probably where I'm going to head to, because they're paying these guys $100 million a year, basically, at this point. So that's the most visual one, and we get no clips of that yet. I don't think I've seen any social team put out a clip of a running back linebacker one, but that's just one period that we could potentially have. - Oh, joint practice era of live TV is going to be amazing. I cannot wait, that's probably very soon, if I had to guess. - Yep. - Nice couple of years. - Guys running like seven second routes, doing 13 moves, catching up on one on one, and people are going, we're going to score 1,000 points this year. - I think that's where the commentators will be a big part of this. Commentators need to actually explain what's going on, you know. I think that's one home base, and I think you're red zone in that, right? I think-- - Yeah, probably. Definitely. - I think you're-- - I think you're bouncing-- - Unless you just do like 10 o'clock, there's only one per hour, that'll also be sweet. - But then if you tend to 8 p.m., you could do the where you're like, hey, this practice, these two teams don't want it shown during this period, you go to a different practice. - bounce over there, and also you can have people on the ground, obviously. - Yeah. - Already have people who represent things that we miss, what do we miss? Maybe there's a big scrum. Let's go ahead and go back to that footage we have it here, this just took place. You can make that a whole day, a fair, sure. - Yeah, they will. - Oh, I can't wait for that. - I'm sure they've already thought of all of this, and they're in the middle of creating that, as we speak, just like Heinz catch up when I sent him Kichot sauce. - And they told me they're already in the middle of making it. - Yeah. - And then 15 years later, it dropped from like, excuse me. That could-- I wish my-- I wish Tim was still here. I was maybe like 13 or 14, sent that email to Heinz, thought it was going to be a bazillion air. I would like to partner with you with Kichot sauce. - Could've been. - You need to put hot sauce in your ketchup. Mix it up. It's the best thing for everything. Hot sauce. It's the next one. Let's go ahead and do that. Pull on eggs. Pull on cheque. You can pull on anything. It actually-- anything a ketchup can go on. This can go on. It's your next one. Ten emails, maybe. Ten emails. Send it to them. I don't know if we can send it. Dial up internet through the entire thing. Finally, you want back. Well, thank you so much. A lot of ideas that can send to us. We already have in production. We will certainly be in contact with whatever. - They won't. - They fucking 15 years later, they did it. They still have a master. - It's still a good idea. You might be owed some money. - Don't talk about that. I need nothing. I need absolutely nothing from anybody. I'm just happy that the world has it. Because it is-- I mean, I'm a ketchup guy over mustard. I don't mind mayonnaise, but I don't mind mustard either. But ketchup and hot sauce together is like the-- yeah, there it is. - Well, that's-- - Yeah. - Is that it? - No. - Where's that Sarah? - I go Frank's. Heine's ketchup circle to create a border. Then you go Frank's red hot into that. So then you fill up a pond, okay, with that-- - Sure. - And then you top the pond with ketchup. Then you take dino nug or whatever you are eating, fry, whatever you're doing. You whip that together. And you actually watch it come to the perfect color between a lightish, pinkish, reddish and orangeish in there. And then you'll know when the right time is and you'll go for it. It's fantastic. I still think they can do that. Heines. - Good. - Who's Mr. Heines? Mr. Heines? Did you marry Schwarzenegger? - Carol J. Heines. Is that who you're thinking of? - Is that the rich? - Oh. - She was married to a political guy back in the day. It wasn't. - Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think a member of the Heines family was married to-- - That was the Kennedy's. - Okay. - Oh yeah. - Maybe I'm wrong. Same thing though. Heine's family, Kennedy family. You get it. It's all kind of the same. - Schwarzenegger. - All right, a couple big news. J.J. McCarthy is the backup quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. - I got it. - Not Carson Wentz. - Did you, what did you do? - Thank God. Breaking news. Lines tight ends. Sam Laporta status for Detroit's regular season opener is unclear after he suffered a hip injury. The start tight ends sustained the injury during a recent practice and has missed. Most multiple practices this week. He would, you're on the case. Sam with senior NFL insider Adam Schaefter. Okay, so Sam Laporta, I think we heard a rumbling, right? We just didn't know what was gonna be that. I think we heard a whole thing. - Yeah, exactly. I had seen that he was out of practice and I had no idea why. And obviously last season, he was out for majority of the season with that back injury that he ended up having surgery on. So, and then when he had that surgery and was out for the year, the lines we had a winning record were doing great. When he left, there was a humongous drop off in the offensive production. He blocks, he catches, he does everything. He has been outstanding for this season. This is a big time bomber. This is a killer, especially with the new offensive coordinator Drew Petsing, who is a big tight end guy allegedly. So this is a killer. - Yeah, Dick's just told Foxy in his ear that his dober's done because Sam Laporta is potentially down. - Yeah, sorry, that really threw me off. - That's on me and I forgot that he got through you too. - Sorry, Foxy, big honor guy. - I thought he was talking to me too. - Yeah, sorry Foxy, I appreciate what you said, what you did and how you battled through there. But what Tom Diggs did say to all of us in one year, his dober is done. - It seems like he's bothered. - It definitely is. - About Sam Laporta, did you center get injured as well? - Yeah, the starting center that we just signed in the off season, Kade Mays, he's been out, they say for like eight weeks he'll be out. So they've been jumbling up the offensive line, trying to figure that out, the guard, the right leg, he's been taking center snaps. - So just like the chargers, man, it seems like the lines and the chargers, just injuries just seemingly are just showing up on a regular basis. - Is it, what is it on, you guys have to do another cleansing of some sort, like how do we get through this? - I have no idea, because yeah, two years ago, we're 15 and two, but every single starter on the defense was out. We go to the first, we get the one seed, go to the first round of the playoffs, we lose there. That was a killer last year we have to, don't make the playoffs and then that was why, when we made the NFC championship a couple of years ago, we were healthy and it was like this is the time where we had to do it and they never did. So everyone's scared that the window might be closed. I think this year is a massive, massive, massive breaking point in that window era. - If we can say healthy, obviously the uncertain for week one is a different word than we've been hearing from everybody else, has it hopeful? Everybody's been able to use the word hopeful 'cause we're a couple of weeks out from week one still. I wonder how many of those hopefuls will become uncertains. We did here now, Sam LePorta, uncertain for one. Go ahead, Tony, that's something. - Yeah, we were just talking about the lines and he, Foxy was going through all of their, the past, what if Dan Campbell's regretting going for fourth down against the night or set many times up 20 points or whatever it was? - How many years ago was that, what do I mean? - 2023 I believe. - Okay, so we go from that to heartbreak city to making playoffs in losing 'cause your house of cards. - Yes. - To not making a playoffs to this year. - Correct. - Oh no. - In Josh Reynolds would have just caught those fourth down balls. - We would have made the Super Bowl and probably won the Super Bowl. - But now. - You just kicked the field goal, I should have. - I mean, we don't want to go back in time and do armchair quarterbacking, but you guys should have won that game. - Should have won that game. - They're killing me. - And now look at what we're doing. We got the injury bug and we can't get it out of the building. - Yeah. - I don't like that at all. - To our scene, yeah. - Yeah, it's the worst. It's absolute bummer. But I'd rather have him be hurt now than hurt later in the season, just let's get healthy and hopefully he comes back. - Hurt me now, healthy me later. - Yeah, well said. - Okay, I understand, I understand exactly what you're saying. Trevon Diggs has officially signed with the Seattle Seahawks. We believe everybody kind of believes that Terry on Arnold, Commissioner's exemption list conversation that we learned on hard knocks. We probably could have assumed that the Seattle Seahawks were gonna try to bring in a member of the secondary and another corner. Trevon Diggs, veteran corner, was on the market. They bring him in. Obviously, Trevon Diggs is a couple years removed from leading the league in interceptions. Ballhawk, obviously. How we fit into the Seattle Seahawks defense is obviously the question. AJ, how do you feel about the move? Obviously, we think very highly of Schneider in the moves that he makes. Was desperately needing a corner it sounds like. He brings in Diggs, your thoughts? - I think it's a good fit. Obviously, we know Diggs is an absolute ball. He had 10 picks a couple years ago. - Yeah, I've been, I think. - I mean, that's, which is just unheard of to think of that much production. But so, yeah. I think Seattle, we see Coach McDonald like, that guy is all about ball. He's all business. I think they will have a great role for him and he can thrive in that system. It's like the style of play that they have there in Seattle. I think that's the biggest thing. Like, they set a standard, especially on defense. And I feel like Diggs can step right into that. - Yeah, it's such a hard position, man. - Yeah. - It's the possible. Watch those one-on-one. So, all I'm thinking, watching those one-on-ones, I'm like, how are you ever going to, this guy's got a 15-way go on me. How do you ever cover him? - Well, now, how about Jackson Smith and Jigba video that they did on hard knocks? It's like, all right, guess where this guy is. And you're like, oh, he's going that way. He breaks that thing off and just goes a complete different direction. And then you hear him talk about, he's like, a good route runner is a good artist. You're trying to paint a picture that isn't real to people. And it's like, you watch that in, like, Keenan Allen and, like, Reggie and Cooper Cup. And, like, the Steve Smith, I think, was probably a good route guy if I had to guess. But, like, the people that are noted route runners, these fuckers are outrageous, just impossible to guess. That's what they're doing. And it doesn't matter if you run a 4-8 or 4-9 or a 5-0, if the defense, if the DB gives you a window with the quarterbacks that we have, if you can get open, I mean, it can get you the ball. And that's why third downs are so important and so impressive because there's tight windows, there's lock coverage, and it's like these guys can make people just see ghosts literally. The best athletes on earth are seeing ghosts because of where these guys are headed. Has to feel so good when you shake a guy. Has to feel. People hoopers, huh? Like, that's what I almost put with the Travis Kelsey one. He looks in great shape, by the way. I know. It does look good. Did you see him walk? They did a walk down. This is from Mackenzie Nelson, Travis Kelsey's final walk down the hill. Wow. St. Joe. Obviously they do training camp at St. Joe. This walk has been a pillar of Travis Kelsey's life and now he makes it his last time and pause. And look, he's right there. Good man. Look at that. Hey, he looks fit. He does. Like, actually, I was watching a walk and I'm like, I wonder if he's getting emotional about this or very excited to get the fuck out of there, you know, could be, yeah, could either could be either or, you know, just thinking about all the things that have happened since he started doing this as a Kansas chief first now actually being as fine a walk, what's going through his mind. And then as I saw him get right past Mackenzie, he didn't say anything kind of an interesting video. You know, I thought there would at least be an interaction. For my understanding, there wasn't, but there might have been one on tail end whenever I went out there. So I'm getting right in front of him. I'm like, God, he, he looks like he's in really good shit because some of the videos from straight on didn't really know it's like hanging out to the side. This one, it feels like he's in a best shape that he's been in some time. He's obviously looking to rewrite the, the end of his football story or just write his football story kind of how he's going to go out. Patrick Mahomes not talked about really much chief still favorites because they have Andy reading the boys, but it's like, I like where they're, how they're looking in the way they're operating. Now, obviously, hello, he they're on defense, not great, that that is what is happening on the defensive side, especially whenever they trade away, McDuffy and lose their other corner. Who's the other corner? Jalen Watson. Yeah. So they lose both their corners, so don't love seeing that, but it's like offensively, there's a lot to like about this chief steam, if they can figure it out again and they can win a lot of games this year. And none of us would be surprised by that. No, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I mean, we have Patrick Mahomes at the helm, like anything is possible truly, but I don't know. I mean, they aren't a good spot. We talked about teams kind of fine under the radar. That's what they are right now, but they jump out and, you know, they go 4-0 in the first month or something. I think teams, people will have their expectations right back up there for the Chiefs. Yeah. Chiefs is still the Chiefs is what I would be saying at that point, but I still believe that right now. Yeah, man, sort of delaying kind of their number one corner who they drafted, I think seventh overall or eighth overall, whatever it is, feels like there's some of those positions we talk about all the time and drafts like wide receiver, those top guys usually come in and are great right away. It feels like a position like that where the guys that are getting drafted, especially in the top tier of the first round of the draft, coming in are immediately great. It's spags as well. So spags is confident enough to tell, you know, Vitch, like, hey, this is the corner that we need to replace Tremmick Duffy, probably going to be a huge piece for. All right, tonight's huge night for preseason football is we start our journey and continue our journey, not to Mordor, but to Lombardy Mountain, which is February 14th in Los Angeles on ESPN and ABC cannot wait for Las Vegas and Houston, San Fran and the Chargers. We're a team ride on Fernando Mendoza to throw at least one passing touchdown night. If you are of age and agreed to gamble responsibly, we're live in all 50 states. We would love for you to join us on the best sportsbook on earth, draft kinks. Just one. That's it. Just one from the Nandoza first drive. That's plus 400 if you would like to get on Fernando to throw a touchdown on his first drive. It is a plus 400, but that was almost the reason why I knew that so quickly is that was almost this particular team ride that we went on. But instead we said it wasn't touchdown just in general, okay, let's just continue to do our thing. We think he should be able to do that. But who knows how long he plays, who knows what happens on in front of him or on the other side of the field. It's preseason football. It's gamble responsibly not the assholes. Yep. What the hell is going on baseball speaking of assholes guy hit a home run last night that didn't count. He's too strong. Her depolar bear is getting ripped off. What the hell happened last night? No, I don't know about that. You know, hey, listen, this is going to happen sometimes humans are infallible, Pete Alonzo absolutely shits on that pitch for Brent Heedrick. And unfortunately, he kind of hit it too high and too far. And if you look, I was watching this game live, I saw that live and it did look foul like towards the end there. It was like, okay, but then when you run it back in slow mo, it does look like it may have been fair, but they did call it foul on the field. Yeah. If you stop it right there, like it is well inside of the the pole there. So looks like a homer, but there wasn't conclusive evidence to overturn the call. So it was rule of foul ball and ball don't lie. He then struck out. It's okay, and everybody says doesn't matter, Yankees would have won anyways if this counts because it was five, three or no. No, no, I don't know about that because if he would have hit that home run, it would have been four, three Orioles going into the eighth inning. So it was a massive, absolutely massive moment in the game. There's no two ways about it because then the next inning the Yankees went on to score two runs and took a five, three lead and then ended up winning the game. Well, the momentum changer we're saying. Certainly. Yeah, certainly. I've seen the review and challenge room for MLB. It is very, very like involved, very high tech, they got a lot of systems in place. Whenever some stuff happens, I do wonder how like in baseball, is it the same as football? If it's over the upright, they have to guess whether or not it would have happened or if it's over the upright, is it good? Is it no good? Usually that's a homer. Yeah. Because if it hits the dog, it's a homer. Yeah. But I think again, it was weird because in one of those angles, like it looks like it is like well foul, like several feet to the left. But then yeah, this one, so obviously they did not use this angle. But that's where, maybe in that room, or they have all the angles. And I don't know if that is one that they don't typically use. Like if that was like a different, you know, again, I don't know because I feel like this is a pretty easy one to not mess up. But again, this is one of those things too, where if they call this a homerun on the field initially, then it probably doesn't get overturned, but he called it a foul ball. Okay. We have an even different angle here. Bruce just found on the internet. Let's see if this one changes. Oh, this is what, where's this from? This is from Down Home Plate line. See? Where's the, where's the, where's the, that one looks way, well. Where's the pole and when's it, when's it go pass or when's it behind? Yeah. I'm staring right down the hook around it. So maybe the angle in which we saw, maybe, maybe we overreacted there. Maybe we were, maybe the replay folks in that room actually had different. So that's what I was saying. Lot live watching it. I was like, you know, oh, shit, you know, like that's definitely gone upper deck. But then like when you actually see it come down, like it, it looked like it was 40 feet left of foul pole. So I was like, okay. That's a foul ball. I mean, that still looks like home run to me, but yeah, but I'm a field goal kicker who would give that to obviously a kicker if he could. If it's allowed to be over top of that thing and hit it, it feels like that's still a home run. But I could see how this angle is a little bit different view than the other one. Right. I mean, I think it's kind of similar to, you know, stuff in like the NFL where they make a call on the field and then for whatever reason, it's just not conclusive enough to overturn it. Like you could argue it either way. Like if he calls that a homer, it stays a homer because he didn't call it a homer. It, it, it's not a homer and then P. Lanzo was so fucking pissed rightfully. So he's so pissed and then you knew he had no chance of getting a hit, getting on base, just terrible swing on the, you know, on the outside corner pitch. And he strikes out his bitch and at the up as he walks back in. And that was, that was all she wrote. There was no way the Yankees were losing that. How's Baltimore this year? Not good. Not good. Well, I shouldn't say that because they're the American League is really shitty and they're actually kind of clawing back and they're somewhat close to getting the last wild card spot. But they had it, they had very high hopes going into this year. They have a lot of young talent and that was like a, that was a massive move, P. Lanzo, not resigning with the Mets and going with the Orioles. I think anticipating that like they, they might, you know, kind of be on the start of making a run this year and they've been, they've been very disappointing. I'm bummed out to hear that about the Baltimore Orioles. You see the Baltimore Ravens? Well, bad. They're riding rollercoasters. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah, they're having a good time out the Baltimore America. I appreciate that it was Jacoby Lane, Zay flowers, Lamar Jackson, you know, Jacoby Lane, obviously new to the team could be a massive weapon for them. They're out there in Baltimore America riding a rollercoaster. See, bringing people together, little camaraderie. I like what rollercoasters are doing. I like that the Ravens are doing this. I like them to win the FC North because of this. Okay. Okay. I know it's not a good rollercoaster if you can hold your phone the entire time on it. Don't come on, Baltimore America's awesome, but the only time all of America's awesome is if you're rollerblooded and through the entire thing with your hockey team, yeah, but where did they go? There's a couple whoopsy who's on this thing in Mall of America. I'm realizing right now. I think we should maybe compliment whoever's, is it Lamar with the camera? It's his Instagram. Yeah. Okay. So I think we should just understand that Lamar is able to hold the camera. Not baking. Good grip straight. Yeah. Because I think they have a couple whoopsy who's there if I'm on mistaken. They do. They do. >> I've never been there. >> Well, Zey flowers got his camera. We need a front view, too, Zey. If you can get this, I think they all put out a video, to be honest. >> Okay, hold on, because here in a second, you'll see a whoop-do-woop. It looks like I'll tell you to pause when you can't keep it on. Yeah, was there a whoop-do-woop? There's a whoop-do-woop. >> Yeah, that's where it's the first deal. >> There's, I believe there's two whoop-do-woop. >> Right there, it's true. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Go back up there. >> There is. >> Go back up. >> There's a whoop-do-woop. >> Back a little bit. Right over there. Pops. >> What's that thing in the middle? There's a couple whoop-do-woop. Yeah, that's a different part of the nis-part, though. So it looks like they do that. >> I believe there are two whoop-do-woos, yeah. >> Wow. Mall of America inside two whoop-do-woos. >> Oh, yeah. >> Sure. >> You ever seen it? >> That's cool. >> I mean, it was top-tier when it used to be Camp Snoopy, and then they changed it to, like, Nickelodeon World, but Mall of America has one of the premier log rides in America. >> Log ride inside? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Fucking awesome. >> Into water? >> Yes. >> Like the log jam? >> Mm-hm. >> It's a fully functional amusement park that is on the entire, like, second floor of Mall of America in the basement of the aquarium. >> Yeah, but when we say amusement park, I immediately go to, you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, Kenny will cheer. No, there's, like, probably six roller coasters that have, like, the-- >> What? >> Yeah, it's massive. It's a big deal. A lot of people in the Midwest, that is, like, a-- I'd say that's a very popular vacation destination in the South. >> I had no idea that Mall of America is throwing that type of hit. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's the biggest mall in the world. >> Okay, I'd like to go check that out. I'd like to go do the whole Woop-D-Woo roller coasters. >> Is this super swing one? >> That should go be anywhere live. >> Oh, he's live from there? >> Yeah. >> Oh. >> I love these guys. I like the way he would do the more now, yeah. I like the theme's hanging. I didn't know Mall of America was doing it like that. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay, congrats, Mall of America. I like that. >> I like that, a lot of respect. >> I didn't know that until I saw the ducks rollerblading through it. >> Yeah, I think I remember them rollerblading through. I don't remember their-- >> Maybe it was Team USA at that point. >> Six roller coasters. >> No, they would have been-- >> Academy? >> They would have been Eden Hall Academy at that point. >> Okay. >> They do go pick up Averman who works at the movie theater at Mall of America too. >> That's right. >> But-- >> What a great movie. >> Yeah. Yeah, trilogy. >> All right, let's get the hell out of here. I think we hit everything we need to hit. >> Sandy Crosby's renegotiating. >> Shout out. >> He's gonna play till he's 50 with the Pittsburgh Penguins. Stanley Cups coming back to Pittsburgh brother. >> Sorry about it. >> Probably. >> Climbs Blue Jacks. I think they're folding right now. They don't longer have a team or do they have a team? >> No, they're good, what? >> They have a team? >> Yeah. >> We got Adam Morenski. >> Okay, you have a model everything. >> Okay, they have Morenski. >> Morenski. >> Morenski. >> Morenski. >> Olympic-- >> Ball of Gold Medalists. >> Name is Zach. >> Zach, we're Renski. >> Related to Game-- >> Well, please, bitch. >> Is that related to Game? Is that what we're-- >> Well, that's-- yeah, that's what I was thinking. >> Morenski? >> Yeah. >> Is that what you guys are-- >> Adam Morenski. >> It's a big show. >> What's that, AJ? >> Game had a big show at a public outing the other night. I saw him there. I'll go post a great video. He's juiced. >> More y'all. >> I love that. >> Yeah. >> 25 years of sports, rich mother fucker. >> Congrats to him for all of them. >> He was ahead of his time. >> Yeah. >> Love sports, rich dude. Gabe makes me laugh. >> Yeah. >> He's got an interesting ex, but yeah, for the most part. >> Ex-account. >> Yeah. >> Ex-account, okay, yeah. Interesting Twitter, ex-account. >> Sure. >> Not like his ex. >> No, he's married. >> Of course, I'm happy for him. >> Yeah. >> He was a wise friend. >> And date all the vegetables of his ag me. He'll never forget it. >> All right. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about things like-- Gabe, we're happy you as hell for you, brother. >> Yeah, Gabe. >> Gabe's been going to bat for me publicly, and I know that's been tough for Gabe on his room. But I am worried about that. >> Yeah, his wise friends are still fucking pissed about all the vegetables of his ag me being gobbled up in his wedding. >> So he ain't who aided the friend? >> Well, I don't even think they got the opportunity to do this. >> Oh, it's gone. >> Yeah, exactly. >> But Faced Island-- >> 18 bucks. >> But it finally made a boy. >> Yeah, got gobbled up. And let's just say some people haven't forgotten. >> It's certainly not you. >> Yeah, no. >> Nor got we-- >> Never, never will. >> Well, like to get to the bottom of that itself. >> Yeah, I agree. >> Thank you. >> Never will. >> Thank all of you for allowing us to do this for a living. You're the greatest. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice in my change of life. Hey, let's win this team ride tonight. >> Hell yeah, here we go. >> Team on me, team on three for the good of sport, baby. One, two, three, team. >> Good bye!