PMS 2.0 1602 - TJ Lang, Jason McCourty, Daniel Jeremiah, Dan Orlovsky, Ice Cube, Gary Payton, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people Wouldn't exaggerating morning down there and Memphis under 15 miles away from Graceland home of the King of rock and roll Elvis Presley the home to the first round of the FedEx Cup playoffs down there at the St. Jude Championship now You're watching Invigorating golf all morning there for the last couple hours and you wonder to yourself. Why is this dipshit on my television? Well Some negotiation was had between the PGA and FedEx playoffs and ESPN where there was a two-hour window in the morning They could certainly show they could show Tommy Fleetwood on me on the third Paul five for Eagle out of the sand Tommy Yes, oh, he's held it currently in the Belize Currently in the lead Tommy Fleetwood down there. He's the reigning defending Undisputed Saint Jude and FedEx Cup champion to our champion as well You know, it's not just on me Fleetwood in the morning there's cooking How about the world number one? Schaeffler on the par five third Boom boom Boom boom Yeah, that'll do study Schaeffler caps that one in for bed in the third here now Scottie under par on a Thursday, which we absolutely love the stars are out the golf is gonna be fantastic Here's a live look. It's got a Schaeffler currently golfing with Rory McElroy Down there in Memphis. It's a scorcher Ninety degrees feels like 105 for birdie here one under at the seventh par four four eighty three You might ask yourself why are they allowed to show it but not allowed to run it? Well, that's a great question and we're probably going to get in some shit live Scotty sweating his ass off Story of his year this tournament continues on the ESPN app What we're about to do is talk about preseason football We're talk to talk about a deal that was not made overnight for the WNBA We're about to talk about everything that is about to be happening around our fantastic sports world We were certainly be keeping you updated on what's going on with Scottie Rory Oh, me and the boys hairy English also getting a little dancing in there early But we'll be talking about everything and this show live from a Thunderdome starts in five four Three brunch with the lad starts in two Preseason football tonight full slate one This show stands in the fact of you listen, we are very very The all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers you pay Your friends other friends have the nice to change their life Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble about the draft Kings Thunderdome on this preseason brunch with the last Thursday August 13, 2026 this program begins and now Thought we didn't okay recap of what was going on this morning for the first two hours of the FedEx Cup playoffs down there at the St. Jude championship in Memphis, Tennessee just 13.8 miles away from Graceland as a bird flies. I believe it's probably just about 10 to 9 miles or whatever the case is Can't wait to keep everybody updated on what's going on down there. Scottie's playing good golf That's great news for all of us because if his name's on a leaderboard this weekend We will watch is the top 70 golfers in the world next week will be the top 50 than the third and final week will be the top 30 for the Tour championship Ulmy Fleetwood who is the reigning defending on a speed of champion playing well as well. We are certainly pumped that that's happening this weekend But also happening tonight full slate of preseason games On NFL Network 7 p.m. The Green Bay Packers take on the Pittsburgh Steelers Then the Lions and the Bengals the Colts and the Patriots the Chargers and the Texans the Cardinals and the Raiders and then a night cap on NFL Network Titans and Niners now We do know some of the players are going to be playing in some of these games now on that note quick follow up Tennessee Titans and San Francisco 49ers have like four fights in one day. Yes Did they get it all out of them or is that only a lead up to what's about to take place Green Bay Packers Pittsburgh Steelers obviously a lot of history between the two with all the parties that are in there Mike McCarthy Obviously Aaron Rogers with Pittsburgh Steelers, you know the floor fresh out of saying that Jordan loves best He's ever been around whenever it comes to a certain thing whenever it comes quarterbacking his particular offense So maybe there is a little extra juice in who's playing quarterback for the Steelers who's playing it's good question We do have information on who's playing for the other games. Jordan Love will be getting some snaps for the Green Bay Packers Which will be great to see we also see Tyrod Taylor so he's a veteran quarterback who can do well Let's assume the Packers do put out a good quality product this evening What will the Pittsburgh Steelers do older team trying to get people to the regular season? But also the conversation about maybe Aaron Rogers playing in the preseason has popped up a couple times over the last week or so Would be wild to watch and would be wild to see yeah, but maybe they end up doing that and then for the Lions and Bengals Luke Altmar hey Oh, yeah, Illinois laser loop. He can do it. He's at Illinois people forget he threw for a lot It very well Illinois was supposed to be good then he got 50 Burger by Indiana at the beginning of the season But he did a lot for that place. He's gonna be playing tonight So is Josh Dobbs the pastor not taking on Joey Burrow and Joey Flacco with him. Okay, okay Joey Burrow and the Bengals obviously him playing is a wild thought, you know, especially because he's taking on Luke Altmire So the Denver our Detroit Lions aren't playing anybody, but the Bengals are playing their starters. Is that normal? Well, we do a little research in the McVeigh tree Zack Taylor certainly falls from the tree. He's been he was one of the first. Yeah, yeah one of the first early brand Yeah, he was an early. Yeah, he's down here at the bottom. Yeah Just got like a fatter wrench there on the the McVeigh tree because he was one of the cup of coffee with McVeigh Let's try to get him in here and bam that McVeigh tree. They don't really do a lot of preseason playing Let's not get a lot of people hurt But the Cincinnati Bengals have been historically asked to start seasons So maybe this is a different strategy to have Joey Burrow and the boys play in the preseason Maybe they get a little bit of a hot start that can continue because the bangles are always chasing at the end of season That's what it feels like you have enough talent. Are they gonna be able to do it? Are they gonna be able to get it? Ah, just one game out If they had two more weeks of the season, they would have been able to do it feels like they're trying to start hot Maybe this will help with that. Anthony Richardson, former number four overall quarterback are picking the NFL draft Obviously, men's upside cannot wait to see what he does as we got Riley Leonard out of Notre Dame also playing and formerly of Duke Taking on Tommy cutlets I'll tell you what Tommy cutlet's preseason football Thursday night Help me in show me the money. The toxic table at Boston Conner and Ty Schmitter here. One half of the hammer Cowboys AP town is here boys. I'm happy you got your old school leather helmets It does feel like it's a school football day. Let's go to Tommy cutlets in a Patriots up there What are your expectations of the boys? Obviously playing cutlets is telling you what we're thinking You know joint praxis where all the work was done What is your big takeaway from this first three games there con man first three games are always like okay What skill position players are gonna play you know after we go to the quarterbacks is for the Patriots the big stories The wide receiver room is booty gonna be out there because we know he's kind of on the block kind of not on the block As Mike Rees told us you think the same thing with like the Packers the Steelers to like it's pitman gonna be out there is You know golden gonna be out there for the Packers or some of these guys gonna be catching passes I hope so just everybody stay healthy. Okay. No injuries today. It's waiting early to begin her Chargers Texans train lands first Dougie Davis Mills obviously a stud cardinals raiders turk cousins will be getting some snaps Nando will be in there as well I'll wait to see that and Mincio obviously and Carson Beck getting some snaps for the cardinals That'll be a fun little quarterback care so keep an eye on and then Titans and Niners is the night cap and camwards play Which we like him and Dave all first time together in his second year camward out of Miami Stutt and then Washington state incarnate word. Yep. What a stud what a story with Dave all could become something special Taking on Mac Jones over there for now as you we know is more than equipped to kind of handle it all Ty I can't help with notice you do have a little different buzz around you Is it because of the leather helmet you have on cuz Packers are playing and I like Jordan loves getting some snaps Why are you kind of running your head into a wall seemingly with excitement about what's possible? Well first and foremost it's football day, you know, and we did that when the world cup was here and said like it's football day Yeah, okay, whatever. It's not today. It's football day. All right. It feels like the NFL's back and yeah The Packers are playing a bunch of starters Matt will floor basically said hey if you're healthy expect to play so Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm excited to see what they look like It's obviously the Packers look a little different this year than they did last year and Martian Lloyd Who is really why I got my eyes on he they drafted him a couple years ago out of USC running back very shifty very explosive athletic He has not been able to stay on the field and they said he has been believable and camp so far especially with kind of the question marks around Josh Jacob So I want to see what he's all about. I don't know who's gonna go for the defense and then like you said I mean, it's not a regular season game so it's not the same But it'll be fun with all the storylines with McCarthy and you know Rodgers and all those guys coming back And I'm sure we'll get some good clips for you of them, you know, y'all A lot of handshake a lot of clap laughing Part of these good talk about how you know green base still home. Yeah, yeah, Thor County has house air loves going there That is kind of the world where he went to get away for a year whenever he wasn't coaching. And then obviously would join us once a week from wherever the hell he was bird hunting or duck hunting or coaching of volleyball team or whatever he gets. Happy he's back award winning. Happy he's back in the coaching. So Greenbase is actual home and then he's from Pittsburgh. So tonight might be a little emotional for all of them. - Yeah, probably. - No, it's only a pre-season game. Let's go to one half of the hammer. - Dad! - Cowboys, 8-P-Tone. So you guys are all award of helmets, huh? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And you can feel physicality. (yelling) - My most is with the lads here. - Yeah, there you go. - Yeah, good brunch with the lads. Obviously having a good time here. 11 to 1 Eastern, but tonight it all kicks off. Turn, what are you looking for for the Steelers? And also, can we tell the world about our team ride for this evening? Now obviously betting on pre-season games. - Wanna know? (laughing) - We quit. - Yeah. - We are currently watching-- - I'm defeated, bro. - Okay, we are currently wanting to know on team rides in pre-season football this year with Giraffe Kings. Our first real football promoted bet in saying, hey, this is what these guys are going with. If you would like to ride alongside of them, we did hit that, okay? And we will always be thankful for Haynes King. - Yeah. - 'Cause the King brought us the crown in the fourth quarter of the Hall of Fame game. We respect that. But if you're betting on pre-season, obviously it's be smart. Let's be responsible. If you're of age, certainly come join us. But let's not be assholes here, okay? Let's make sure we're responsible on this entire thing. But our team ride tonight, I like it. I really like it, the old bull in the young calf. You know, the old bull in the young calf sit at the top of the hill with a bunch of it. Two team passing touchdowns for the Raiders, okay? That's it. Four quarters of pre-season football, two plus team passing touchdowns. Do we think Kirk will be able to score one? Maybe. Do we think Fernando will be able to do it? Maybe, yes, I do think that's the case. Pre-season football, though, anything can happen here. The odds of plus 170. So we are getting very good odds on this. Are not doing well with the clip. Yeah, don't know. And you are not too. Do, be responsible, please. Be responsible while you're doing this. I'm talking to you. And I need to hear. Yeah. This is pre-season football. I'm looking at my mortgage and I can just see. Don't do that. What are you doing? It's a new mortgage guy. Do not do anything. You're a married man. I know you're an adult now. Be responsible. We have no idea what's going to happen. But if you'd like to add a little bit of juice to the game, we'd like to have a little bit of excitement. Try to follow something alongside the rest of us this evening. The old boy and the young calf. We think they will each throw for one. So two plus touchdowns for the Raiders. At plus 170 is our team ride. Tone, what else should we be thinking about? And how do you feel about the old boy and the young calf? I feel really good about the old boy and the young calf. Obviously Kirk is a veteran in this league. They're going to want to show a good outing here. His first time as a Raider, the first time had coach, the first time offense together. They're going to want to look good here. Then Mendoza comes in first overall pick. You know, he's going to be great. And if the old boy and the young calf doesn't get it done, ain't no Colonel's probably going to get some time. And he has started football games in the NFL. Okay, he's not something shlub off the streets and in the fourth quarter here. So I like it a lot here. And then for the-- - We like it responsibly enough. - Yeah. - It's a preseason game. - I like it all right. - I like it a lot. - We are. - I mean, we saw Kenny and Haynes King go up and down the field on this court with the offense. So we'll see. We'll see up up for the Steelers tonight. I don't want to see Aaron Rogers at all. I don't want to see Mason Rudolph at all. I'd like to see Bill Howard and Drew Allert sling on the rock half each. I want to see the young guys. Aaron doesn't need to be out there, especially because Michael Pittman and DK are not playing. They have already been rolled out. So what is the point of Aaron being in there? We will see tonight in that situation. But as far as like the other games, and if you're talking in a gambling angle, bangles have quite a bit of an edge. Rookie versus Burrow and Flacco in a situation like that. A.R. and Davido, not a lot of edge there. Those are two proven studs in that situation. Yeah, and then the Texans, Davis Mills. That's crazy. That's Ray Lance. You might think that's an even matchup. Doggie Mills is a guy. It's not, but I was Kim Poy. But also there's a guy. No, I'm not going to bury someone in the pre-season. But I like the Texans in this one. All right. As we continue to chitchat about the full pre-season slate this evening, as it is football day. Are you guys going to wear those the entire brunch? I don't know. I'm sure. I don't think time. I know. Mine coming off. I'm going to be honest. Yours riding a little bit lower than everybody else. So I think that one's just been bopped off your nose. You're going to look like AJ Hawk by the end of this thing, OK, with the out-of-mouths. Lucky. All right. Let's go to people that might know a little bit more about all these games. Let's do a little field of beat session with people that'll be calling the games this evening. Let's head up to Detroit, ladies and gentlemen. A man who is obviously a Super Bowl champion. He's also now a pre-season TV analyst. Oh, wow. Go on a sideline more, guys and a booth. OK. A little bit of respect for this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Lions, Bengals, tonight, you can hear it from this man, T.J. Lange. T.J. How you doing, T.J.? Good to be back, fellas. I mean, I'm in Ohio, currently, which is a awful state. We all know that. So the worst. Is there an earthquake happening right now? Jesus, Louise, you're good. I was saying that. It wasn't earthquake. But I'll tell you what, flying in here yesterday-- Early on, nightmare. Nightmare. I'm worried about you. Who's holding the phone? Is this you holding this phone right now? Yeah, because I'm in the corner of this hotel suite. I don't really have a good angle. I'm like, Louise, a little bit. I had a rough night last night. I can see the rough night. Yeah, I can feel it. We're all experiencing it right now. It was you, yeah. It was shaking like a leaf. You know, when you fly on these NFL plates at, these guys are all ex-Air Force, right? They fly through anything. And it was supposed to be a 45 minute flight yesterday. We were up in the air for about four hours. Had to land in Louisville to refuel a little bit. We got here a little bit late. But no, it's good, man. Football is back. I love the helmets on the boys, by the way. Ty looks like you could have played guard back in like the 50s. Hell yeah. I'm going to-- Connor, you look like you could still play nose tackle in today's end of the day. Gosh, you're scratching me right at this day. I think he called you fat there. But I don't know. I don't know. That's what I wanted. Yeah. Whatever the case is. I'm sorry I had to miss your wedding, buddy, but I hope you got the gift I sent you. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Oh, pile of poop. Oh, it's awesome. OK, hey, TJ. Let's teach you how to a little bit about it. The four-hour news seems like breaking news to me. I did not know that was happening. Happy everybody's safe. I assume that MCDC is just going to utilize this as no chance to kind of go through some adversity, team building, all that type of stuff. But what is kind of the thoughts on who's going to play tonight for the Lions? Because for the Bengals, you've got Joe Barrow and the starters playing. We think this is new for Zack Taylor, because how slow they normally start. I mean, they're normally like terrible starters to the season, so they're going to let them play. Who knows how long, but just get them some reps. For Detroit, I mean, Luke Altmeier, that seems like a, hey, we're not letting anybody get hurt in these types of games. Is that how we should be viewing it from the line side? And what is your thoughts as X-Play or Super Bowl champion on how it should all go? Yeah, I don't really have an opinion on what the right way or the wrong way is to do it. I think Dan Campbell is-- he's always very in tune of how the practices look, how the starters look. Hey, if we're being, you know, having some sloppy practices, maybe we need to get out there and play a few cheers in his games, but I think he's been happy with the way the starters have been playing. So you're going to see a lot of young guys. And I think some guys-- obviously, we're going to see Blake Miller, first round pick. Everybody always wants to see the new guys come in and what they look like. And he's going to be going against Cincinnati starters. So heck of an opportunity for him to make a first impression under the lights. And some other guys on defense, some other additions, whether Devin White's pretty new here. But that guy, man, he is at a heck of a career. I know things didn't go well for him, maybe, a couple years ago, but he was a hell of a player in Tampa Bay. I think he's a guy that I'm excited to watch tonight on that defensive side. Yeah, they kind of pass break up. You know, he's been playing really good. I know they're excited about him. But I think for me, Pat, like the older I got, the less-- I probably felt like I needed to play preseason games, but you always appreciated it. Because whether it's joint practices or training camp, you can't simulate the adrenaline and the rush that you're going to feel on game day. You just can't do it. It's impossible. So I was always thankful for getting some snaps and getting that first wide bull rush where they can actually hit your quarterback, like they can't do in quarterback. And having your ass on the line. So I would be shocked if we don't see Detroit starters at some point this preseason, just because they're not doing the joint practices. But we're not going to see really anything tonight. And what are you doing? You're on color commentary and a booth? Yeah, so preseason last year I started doing the TV for the preseason. So the TV is usually run by the team. And then they put it out on the local affiliates and whatnot. So last year, with my first year bumping over to the TV side of things, and they'd OK enough to get out and do it again today. Now, I think you're good. I think you're a good talker. The preseason, this is normally on radio. No, I think it was good. I think you're an offensive lineman. So you're obviously not like a-- you don't have a model build, but that beard look sharp right now. I think it's locked in. OK, fresh haircut. I mean, I don't want to wear take the hat on, yeah. I got some work to do before 7 o'clock tonight out there. We've got fresh shave, we've got a fresh cut. You and me are both-- You and me are both similar cocazoids where we have the redder complexions, you know? So I-- I wish. Yeah. Yeah, super. And the sun. Wow, it's always working. But I come from the inside and the outside, I think. So I don't know, everybody always-- why is this guy so red? It's like I've been asking after a long time. I don't get it either. You should see how bad it hurts whenever I'm outside in the sun with the red. It's the entirety. But it is nice to know that I'm not alone in this entire journey of-- I drink a lot too, so that's probably part of it. - Oh yeah, so I had four hours on a plane. - I can't wait, yeah, four hours on a plane to circle it around and gnarly. - Oh yeah, gnarly. - Yeah. - Clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang. You're away from the players, right? These players weren't about to-- - He was way bogged. - Any of the shenanigans, right? The players? - I fucked up. - Yeah, okay. - You learn when you go to the radio TV side of things, you're in C60F, you know we're near the front. I think we're the important people out there. - Ty is the last question for you here, TJ? - Yeah, TJ, we may see the starters later in the preseason, but what have you seen so far from Drew Petsing? Like, is the offense gonna look much different? How much of that will we be able to see tonight with Luke Altmeier and how have, like, Jared Goff and kind of the other first team guys, how have they kind of acclimated to the new offense? - Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a ton difference. I mean, Dan Campbell's obviously a very heavy offense as a minded coach, so he's still gonna have this footprints on really everything they do, but, you know, we were in a production meeting yesterday with Coach Campbell and he just said Drew Petsing and Jared Goff are perfect for each other, right? Like, they're exactly what each other needs. They both challenge each other. They're both very high IQ individuals that are always coming up with solutions to problems, whatever they might be. I think the lines lacked that a little bit on offense last year when it came to the small details. A lot of simple, you know, alignment penalties and whatnot and guys just not being in the right spot. It sounds like it's on a much better track right now. And look, I think that that offensive coordinator call it play call or quarterback relationship is the most important relationship in that building because those guys have to be in unison. They have to be on the same page. They have to keep each other accountable. They have to always challenge each other to, you know, hey, how can we make it even better, right? And it sounds like, I know, I don't want to overreact only a couple of weeks in the camp, but the returns on Drew Petsing and his leadership style and what he's brought to this offense, a little bit more stability than maybe they had last year. It sounds like it's going to be a really good thing. So I'm excited to see just how his process plays out, you know, starting tonight. I know it's pretty season football, but you know, and we're not going to see Jared Goff. But I'm excited to see, you know, maybe some new wrinkles that Drew Petsing is going to bring to this offense. - Everything I see from Goff, I like him. You know, this is entire story obviously traveling up there. I like that he hates the social media team during the goofy bullshit and I get a little mad love. I love that. And by the way, we called this earlier, there's an epidemic with bad social media teams that don't know ball and make their players look terrible. Jalen Hurtz is the most recent. - They own Hurtz, yeah. - But the social media team, Admin, look at these numbers, man. This is Adwin, 15 million views I saw this this morning. And obviously they're making somebody else look good. I get that you're doing that, but it's like, your quarterback gets murdered. He's the face of your franchise. He gets killed for just exactly that right there. And then you just, the team actually takes the guy and just goes, hey, internet, we got right, what you're looking for. - Get 'em. - Go ahead. He looks like a ham and cheese. - Yeah, pastrami on the line. - The internet did it thing and it's like, great play by Quinion of course, but like, what do we do it on the other side? Ad winning, you know, from the social admin, which we respect. I T.J., thank you so much brother. - T.J. Boyce. - All right, get some water. - I need it. - Maybe not. - Yeah, not sure. - Not any left. - Yeah, he's going to take a ship probably. - Or puke. - One of the two. - Four hours on a plane. - That's crazy. - Where they're telling you this thing's gonna be a bit gnarly. You know, this thing's gonna be a bit gnarly. - 45 minute expectation. - Yeah. - That's a short flight. - Yeah. And if there was access to things on that plane, which I assume there was, I assume T.J. from our understanding, certainly. - Hey, isn't there a-- - I need 10 more. I'm nervous. I got a big game tomorrow. - This is for the good of me or whatever. I would like to see everybody's reaction on that. Nobody's talking about that. Lines players were on their plane last night for four hours when it was expected. - First time I've seen that. - Landed in Louisville and then they hopped over to sit in Louisville since an addy. Obviously, since an A is on the Kentucky border. But still, that's a different-- - I noted it. - entire thing. That's a big deal. Yeah, something to think about. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is an absolute stallion. Super Bowl champion. It was just announced he's part of the Monday Night Countdown Group alongside NFL Live and you see him all over TV. He's brother also dominant on television and the football field. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason McCordy. - Jason! - What's happening? - What's happening? - You're up in New England right now? - I'm up in beautiful Foxboro, Pat. - Okay, that looks like there was a game I used to play. It was like a mailman. You drive through a neighborhood. - Paperboy. - Paperboy. - Yeah, and it was like-- - There you go. - That is exactly-- I think as soon as you popped up there, I saw you on my little screen here. I'm like, that feels like one of those houses that we would drive and throw the entire-- - Yeah, you look at you. All right, let's go. - Yeah, yeah. - Let's go. Absolutely crush it. Pump for you with Monday Night Countdown. Pump for everything you're doing. Let's dive into tonight. You're calling the Patriots Cotes game. This is a battle between Tommy Cutletch and Anthony Richardson. And then Riley Leonard will get in. I don't think I know who else-- - Baron Morton. - Baron Morton. - That's right, Baron. - Okay, Baron, stud. Okay, no, he's one of a lot of football games good for him. What are you looking forward to tonight in this second year with Vrable, McDaniels. Drake May, what are you kind of expecting from tonight? And what does it felt like going forward this year with this Patriots team? - Well, for one with DeVito, he no longer goes by Tommy Cutletch. Vrable and himself let us know it is just two chains. Tommy two chains. That's the only thing he goes by. - Okay, he's Tommy two chains. - Okay, okay. - He got the two chains on everywhere he goes. But man, this Patriots team, everybody's talked about the schedule's gonna be harder. All of that stuff. This is a team that has gotten better. Drake May, only in his second year with Josh McDaniels. He now understands this offense and the wide behind every single play. And I haven't even mentioned the fact that they've added an absolute stud on the outside in AJ Brown. He's been going at it with Christian Gonzalez, all training camp. The trash talking, all of that going on. The Patriots probably have the deepest wide receiver room in the entire NFL. They almost have more receivers than they can find to do with guys like Keishan Booty, Pop Douglas and all of the guys, including Romeo Doth. So this is a team that feels like, hey, we made it to the Super Bowl last year, but Vrae told us the role to success is always under construction. So they're getting right back to business and they're grinding it out. - There's obviously a lot of conversations about Booty on whether or not he'll get traded out or end up somewhere else with how deep that wide receiver room is. And we talked about AJ Brown and Donzo are battling every day for the beating of camps. And there was pushing and shoving allegedly. We love hearing that. And then the first clips we saw from the joint practice was AJ Brown, just cooking in wide receivers cooking our DBs. Sauce got cooked on this. I think he even said, well, one, one on one rep. Then the rest of practice for my understanding, even though the coach's social media didn't let us know this in real time. - Yeah. - I guess the coach started playing a lot better and as well. What has been the conversation about the coach's Patriots joint practices and where do they kind of stand amongst the AFC, if you will? - Extremely competitive. To your point, the coach's offense had a good day. The defense felt like for New England. They walked off that field. Like we left for a lot out there. And it was a lot more plays to be made. The offense on the other side for New England felt really good about some of the plays. But this goes back to the social media of all of it. Sauce Gardner gives up a damn curl in practice in one-on-one and everyone goes nuts. It's a curl. It's a 12-yard route. You tackle a guy and you get up and you play the next down. I think both of these teams and the AFC are going to be super competitive. I think New England is still going to be a contender to make it back to the Super Bowl. But I was fascinated by it. My brother was up at the practice a day ago. He said Daniel Jones looked like he'd never had surgery before. He was just like, he was out there absolutely throwing dimes moving around great. He was like, you would have never known that this guy was coming off in Achilles injury. So I know that fires you up. - Yeah, I'd say. Yeah, because his mobility is the thing. You know, you look at him, you hear him talk. He's from Duke. You think to yourself, okay, white bread here, not going to be able to move. That's not the case at all. - He is a big part of his game. He's being able to be mobile, take hits and extend plays. Let alone just running, outrunning people. He is always hitting his rushing over. Now you say always, and especially nowadays, that's some Daniel Jones hits his over on a regular basis rushing. And for us last year, he was running, throwing. Our offense was number one in the damn league. And then he breaks his leg and then he tears his Achilles. And then sauce gardener, we just had a comedy of misfortune down the stretch. But I like to hear that the saying is competitive with the New England Patriots. - Wow, yeah. - Speaking of the Patriots, Boston Conner has a question for you, Mr. McCord. - Yeah, Jason Ozenon, thank you for that pass break up against the Rams of the Super Bowl. That'll go down as legendary forever. But speaking of the team this year, it feels like a huge part of the Patriots is running the football. And Trevion Henderson kicked off the preseason last year with the kick return. It was awesome. We had a guy. And now the patch has signed a couple running backs. Free agents the last couple of days. And people are kind of questioning Trevion Henderson being the guy this year. What is the status of kind of the Ramondra Stevenson Trevion Henderson duo? Is that going to be a split back field? Is that going to be Henderson and Stevenson? What are you kind of thinking there? And what are you hearing? - I think it's going to continue to be Ramondra Stevenson as the lead back for now. But I think as Trevion Henderson continues to come along, I think people will realize there's more to understanding and performing at that running back position. They're just getting a handoff and running through a hole. It's understanding how to re-blocks. The other side of it is the past protection piece of it all. And I think for a rookie, it's hard to come in right away and understand blitz pickups, the communication between the quarterback. I think it's going to continue to be Stevenson as the lead back. But I think as Henderson continues to master this offense, it's going to be more and more on his plate. Like he's a. home run waiting to happen when he gets on the football field and when he's in that back field. But I think what we've seen throughout training camp was them using him as a receiver, catching a ball out of the back field and using his speed for mismatches against some of these linebackers. That's always been Josh McDaniel's specialty mismatches and he finds way to get guys on islands to be able to create that separation. We appreciate the hell out of you man. Good luck tonight. Good luck this season and we'll see you down the road. Anytime man, good to see you back. Hey you super fit man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's outrageous. It looks like your jaw has muscles. You know that you are just absolutely jack. That's it. That's the Jamaican. That's the Jamaican in me. It's just it's born that way. Oh, Bumble Club, the rude boy. We appreciate the hell out of you. Because he's a gentleman in Jason's accordion. Yeah, Jason. All right. I love that. I'm happy for him man. Yeah. Yeah. Him and his brother both. Yeah. Because they were Internet guys. They were doing Internet stuff and then obviously get TV commercials. And then now, you know, Sunday night football, football night in America and Monday night countdown. Very good. That's cool thing. Yeah. Very, very, very happy for them. Okay, let's go to a big conversation piece. There was a head coach in Miami. It's considered as like super genius offense. He gets fired. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, where he goes. Where? Los Angeles chargers. City stores. Wow. That's quarterback. That is allegedly haven't got to see it in the biggest games yet. Three different head coaches. Allegedly, could be the one. And the clips out of camp. It seems like they're a really good relationship. And also, he's really happy right now. Yeah. Very happy. What? What? The happiest you've ever seen. You could argue. Smitten. He is smitten. Yeah, but that arm is smoking. Yeah. So he's smitten and he's smoking. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, a man is going to be on the call for this evening. And absolute stud. You can move the sticks with him. You can hear him at the combine. He has every single dress. What's that? I mean, I wish I could move the sticks with him. I'm hearing as a fricking robot now. Oh, yeah. Mr. AI, call him the chargers versus the Texans tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, you can't spell his name without AI, Daniel Jeremiah. I'm sorry. Daniel Jeremiah. That is what your name is. What happened there? Can you explain quickly? What happened? Because that came into our radar yesterday where I guess it's a thing that's happening now. I guess we should have assumed this. People are just just typing in podcasts into AI and then just sending it out there and random weird voices are saying weird things. Yeah. And it was Daniel Jeremiah's podcast. It was really threw me for a loop. Yeah, because we're looking, we're looking forward to learning. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. So what happened? Can you explain quickly what's up place there and how this new world is rather wild? Sure. Yeah. So when this whole merger happened, ESPN NFL network. So I'm going over on the ESPN side under still NFL network, but off the digital stuff in Bucky's stain on the digital side with the NFL and right and doing all his content. So the podcast was going to come to a close there. I'm a podcasting free agent. I'll have that announced. I think next week of where that is. So the, the, the move the sticks feed. It was still there and they, they dropped some content in there, which was a guy named Shopee who does a good job. There's all the YouTube videos, but they didn't, they just didn't know to it was. And so it confused a lot of people. And it still had our, artwork and our name on there. And so it ended up being like a firestorm. I just had my first grand baby, Pat. And I'm literally holding a grand baby. And I'm trying to just, I don't know what's, I'm just like, is this AI? I'm like, the heck are you guys talking about? I have no idea what's going on at this point in time. Well, I want to let you know, I'm sorry that in that moment, holding your grand baby, you're having to deal with modern technology, but also pretty gangster that that's kind of how that grand baby came into life. Welcome to the new world, kid. Yeah. My PA is a podcast, your day, your grandpa, your father's daughter has an opportunity or mom. Well, what are you? What's that daughter's daughter's daughter? Okay. So your, your mother's father here is a man who is so good. People are trying to rip them off. You know, that's a fun story. Congratulations on being a podcasting free agent. Yeah. No, I think that's common. That announce that's coming next week. I did get the name. So it'll be move the sticks just kind of as I've always done it. And it'll be a little bit of a solo mission. And we'll have a new home next week, hopefully. Okay. Well, congratulations on all of that. And me saying move the sticks while you were talking about all this, I thought to myself, yeah, you probably not move the sticks. Happy you are. So move the sticks. Don't move the sticks. Oh, yeah. Just trying to get a first down here. That's all we're trying to do. All right, Mr. Jeremiah, let's talk about this game. Then let's talk about this relationship between Herbert and McDaniel. So we saw the clip on social of him talking to Jim Harbor, McDaniel, that is, and saying like, you have to have an absolute halitzer to make this play happen or whatever. So then it's a roll to the left, throw back to the right side line, I guess, and it's on a rope, obviously, which most of Justin Herbert's throws are. And you see McDaniel gets super excited. The immediate reaction from everybody on the internet was like, oh, McDaniel is starting to realize that he has like an actual physical specimen as a quarterback. Not the tool was in a phenomenal ball thrower, phenomenal timing route guide for him. They did amazing things together down in Miami. But it does feel like McDaniel is learning in real time, just what Justin Herbert is. Remember, he can kick a field goal if he has to. He can pun if he has to. This guy can do it all. How do you feel about that relationship? And what should we expect? Is this thing continues to blossom, you think? I'm excited to see it, man. Once we get it all together, I just think of like a master playbook, right? And you need like a different code to access different portions of the playbook. And McDaniel, we acknowledge, you know, the creativity, how good a job he's done, but he's never had the access codes to some of the plays he's going to be able to call and run with Justin. So when you get that creativity, almost like an artist, and then you pair him with a enormous canvas, I mean, I'm excited to see what they end up painting. And I would also add on top of that, like guys get ready for this game. I know we won't see the guys tonight, you know, the main guys. But when you look at this charger's team, Pat, you're literally adding two all pro level tackles. They went to the playoffs last year without either one of them. Now you add both those, you add the creativity, you get Omarian Hampton healthy for a whole season. And the guy you see leaping up and catching this ball right now, Lad McConkey. In my opinion, was put on this earth to play in this offense, like he's going to go nuts. Okay. So Lad McConkey about to have a Julian Edelman, Wes Walker, Danny M. Endola type season. Is that what Lad's going to do? Or is Lad going to be open and stretching the field? Or is he got option routes? We got option routes at about five, six yards where he can just kind of cook everybody whatever he wants to. What are you expecting? Yeah, run after catch. He's going to just going to give you so much of that where you're getting, you know, in the past where they might have been conversions. It's third and sixth and you're getting the conversion, you're happy with the eight yards. The ball is going to come out so quick and he can separate and uncover so quick. He's going to have an opportunity to turn those, you know, eight yard gains into 20, 30 yard gains. There's going to be a lot of run after catch explosives where, you know, Justin with his big arm can access deep down the field and go over the top. They're going to get explosives without having to even drive the ball as far down the field. We were talking to Dan O'lovsky last week. We were talking to Dan O'lovsky last week about this offense that McDaniel runs about the timing and things and the type of ball in which he throws. I think because he has such a cannon, he's going to be able to be a little bit slow maybe on his reads at the beginning of the season. His arm might be able to catch up with his brain at some point. When do we think he'll be able to get a full grasp of what this offense is going to be? Or we just never know what the full grasp is ever going to be because McDaniel has a never ending playbook for this guy. Well, I think he's getting it quick. I mean, I was out there at training camp and I saw, you know, more back foot ball gone throws from Justin where it was just timing that you see these incredible plays. I mean, I've called all these plays. They're all kind of rolling back through my head. So many of them are where he's buying time and he's throwing across his body like these incredible throws. But they're just baking in some some easier completion form to complement those. So he looked pretty darn comfortable in it. And what I saw, I'm sure it'll get better as the year goes along. But I mean, I'm trying to not get too carried away here. But I don't think this is, you got to wait till mid season to see how this thing looks. I think they'll come out to get ready to go. I love that. Can't wait for that. And that is what is expected at Justin Herbert by the way, especially now that he's in love. Yeah, I think he is. He's in love publicly. I love that for him. Works out for Justin Herbert. Now let's go to the other side of the ball here. The Texans. You know, CJ Stroud showed up the camp. It was a big conversation. It wasn't a good conversation, especially without a last year playoffs ended for CJ Stroud. And obviously CJ has been very good. Let them to play us multiple times. They won the AMFC South. CJ has been great. But he's had some bad moments. And then off the field, there's people saying they lost potentially all of his or some. I don't like that because we love CJ Stroud. But as you look at the Texans, I don't know how much film you're studying for these preseason games or how much you're kind of diving into them. What is your expectation for D'Amico, Ryan's and the boys down there in Houston, who we know can certainly be a contender if they're able to play good football because I'll get their defenses, right? Is that the thought? Yeah, look, they're, I think it's the best defense in the league. And I think the offense, you know, they've made some changes along the offensive line. They get that receiving that young receiving group they had last year, you know, kind of growing up to go along with the veteran solid pieces they have. I think it's an A tier AFC team, you know, I think they're they're right there in it. And that's of all the teams I've seen, the defenses I've seen over the last few years, seeing them up close and personal. That felt like the most violent group, you know, those, those 49er defenses of a few years back really, really felt that way. I know Seattle obviously hoisted the trophy last year, but that, that group is violent. Man, it is a physical, physical group. and i c_j_ i don't know he looks at his in good shape i know like the you got a haircut but he looks like he's lean and and maybe move around a little bit more now the shape is and i'll be excited to see how active is obviously a phenomenal athlete that is something that you can't question i hope he places best ball because a lot of people have been very loud talking about him and i don't think it was the haircut i think it was always where i think it was just it was not an ad win by the i think it was it was a it was a it was a social media blender i believe even letting it hit the internet they should have got a casual like just i think it was nice yeah i think it was everything but on that note that's how comfortable and confident this guy is for sure that's how he moses into it that you know who that is that's the guy that that you're you're playing pickup and he's like the fourth pick and he never leaves the court that's what that is that what that guy is you're talking about billy ho yeah i know who you're talking about exactly i know exactly you're talking about billy ho but that's also mainly very comfortable i think i'm excited to watching use in texas they're definitely top two in the a_c_ south i'd say you would think i would say it's my top two you're quarterbacks healthy man i'm here in good things i'm excited to see what that looks like moving around a little bit yeah jason accordi torsett devon accordi was up in practice and said that daniel jones looks like he didn't even have surgery it's like okay we're back we're the best team in football for ten weeks and it seems like we just ran a thing exactly back that's happening tonight uh packers stealers is happening tonight there's also plenty of other storylines developing around all the bit go ahead con man yeah dj we got an answer on one cubie competition with minnesota but there's still a couple going on one of them not sure how much is health related in atlanta with two of verse panics and then of course in cleveland where it's kind of dishan verse should door is there either those stick out to you between those two in cleveland in atlanta and what are you hearing when it comes to where the lean kind is for those cubies yeah my expectation for all of them was that it's just easier to go veteran to rookie than to go the other way um so i i felt like all these things end up training in that direction we'll see i need to shan watch and goes first um and cleveland and then we'll see what that looks like with him and should do her but it just feels like i think we'll see both of them there but i think watch and gets the first crack at it um and then you look at two uh just from a health perspective with panics uh that made more sense as well but i mean that situation i mean there's no way one of those guys runs the table i mean that they both unfortunately had a history and a track record of you know some duration no no more injuries did dj we decided to actually no more injuries to anybody in the NFL that's it yeah yeah that's that's good news i i got to write that one down because that'll probably change some of my thoughts on yet coming season but already sounds like your negativity might fuck it all up from i just from what it sounded like because we need that there's pat have you seen how good the podders are playing i have zero negativity in my soul right now we are on fire oh slam d a goes back uh-huh jacks and barrels just jack and barrels hitting better anybody in baseball tatees is back we're we're we're good have you ran into the maze yet because i would like to see how that they're beating the shit we just swept the the team that he plays for we just polished up a three-game sweep of those guys beat the miss play no we missed him he didn't want to oh yeah yeah seems to be a nice little operation over there get in whenever the music is in his little stuff okay smart just know that we got a we got a problem with we couldn't put the wild card up there we got to put us 90 million yeah we're in the wildcard spot anybody christmas podra is right there in second in the n o west 65 in 57 just only eight games behind the loss angeles daughters out there in the national league west okay let alone the rest of emmo just in the national they're eight games behind in just just reeled in the fillies just reeled in the debacks but we can't tell we don't have that board apparently i'm terrible all right listen these are stats of ammo please put out okay you you got a problem got a espn.com maybe find some different stuff also uh i want to let everybody know schinoe is just fine is that all right oh that picture was concerning schinoe is just a real we're done with baseball day guy you're right you it's you it's what you said it's what it's football day thank you it's football so i don't need you doing shit you just did either we got we're gonna hold slate a preseason games tonight and all of a sudden we're talking about what schinoe right now i love it he's bad how do you know this is the real me you can't blame this on me man you don't you don't know this is kind of scary dj easy that is kind of scary isn't it yeah we're gonna have to demand in thunder dome appearances from folks yeah yeah at all times i'm here because people do do the fake background already for their zoom calls right who's that guy with the massive push remember yeah and he was acting like he was in the office and he was like rollerblading down the street yeah he wasn't acting like he was he wasn't well right yeah it wasn't even a question people start doing it to us just pop an AI in there to destroy the sticks destroy they tried to take the sticks down they tried to steal the sticks and do and kind of hat check that thing they little they know he's a free agent in the podcast and game that had to be a fun little thing for you actually if you wanted to commit to it full time i don't know what your commitment level is to a podcast and verse everything else you got going on anytime you're a free agent anything that's good news so congratulations to you uh we hope that ends up great let's get back to football yeah don't give me that yeah yeah okay let's go let's go we're ready i apologize there's every game going for i apologize there's every game going for i i i i i don't mean that i like the slam game go team actually it's a lot of fun and also there's a Pittsburgh guy come on Pat yeah we're trying to get him out of there actually during the trade deadline sorry to everybody over there you guys have a great city we understand that you love it but also mason Miller come back to Pittsburgh would have been nice that was never going to happen no no no no that was never going to that we were acting like done with baseball let's move along ties a question for you yeah DJ so we talked about a couple of the teams in the afc south but a lot of people are bullish on the titans and uh we're going to see him ward a little bit tonight in the nightcap against the 49ers what are your expectations for him just overall this year uh with his first year underdable like are you expecting him to take a pretty big jump because i think a lot of people are yeah i was out there and uh for practice and got a chance to visit with him and got a chance to visit with dable all all the guys there he's very confident um the talent is is all there like he can he can make credible plays incredible throws and i think tate's presence there when i was there there was so much heat on him and so much buzz on him he catches everything uh we got a chance to visit with him as well he's an impressive dude i think he's he's my pick for for offensive rookie of the year i think he's gonna have a massive year so to me that there's some pieces are still missing on defense i think they're gonna be better there Jeffrey Simmons is a freak show i mean he's in unbelievable shape he's there it's blistering hot he's wearing long sleeve and like dude what are you doing that guy it's just i like to feel it i like to like that this guy's different okay he's wired a little bit different but he's gonna have a monster year i think there's still pieces away but they're gonna be a fun watch and i think you do see cam wore take a jump i think so too i think dayball and him are a perfect match after getting a chance and you learn about dayball a little bit he's dog too so cam talking his shit dayball loves that remember he he wanted Malik neighbors with the giants because strictly because he is a dog so like cam ward from all accounts is a shit talking beast right in that kind of whatever it was him incredibly talented dog of a quarterback dayball might actually be like the perfect match for him now do they have enough pieces to be able to keep up with everybody else because obviously whenever you're rebuilding a franchise basically there's not just one position or two positions you need but i like the momentum it seems like the tenancy titans have unless they lose the first four out of five games and we got a same old titan who would suck for them down a national DJ i think they're gonna be okay man i think that you know look there's still pieces to add to the offensive line going forward i think they know that i do love scaronsky i was glad to see he got his deal done um and then defensively i think in the back end you can can you know continue to add and build but they're better man the roosters better um there's just a different vibe there i was there for camp last year and i think there was a lot of hope in and wishing and i feel like they've they've extended beyond that this year that's that's the most quick absurd NFL play we've seen in some time it just grow scrambled i want the hell okay now throw 53 and a third is the width of the field okay so obviously if you're out by the numbers i think you're at like yeah so he's like probably 48 and a half and then he goes all the way back running against it fade away throw back to the other side probably 40 yards across field probably probably let alone 15 yards downfield a squared plus b squared equals c squared you do the Pythagorean theorem this guy's doing a fade away like 55 yard throw kind of undo a bucket it's it's an absolutely absurd thing he is a ridiculous talent he knows it i think his teammates love him well the titans ever be able to be good will he be able to ever become like system qb you know that that was kind of the thing about Caleb becomes can he get into ben johnson system ben johnson said that Caleb was nowhere near in the system last year even whenever they were winning games late he was like i our quarterback needs to play better is going to play better as he continues to learn it and then allegedly he said something along lines up we want to be the highest scoring offense in the history of the NFL Denver i believe had 38 points a game yeah and then there was a team in 1950 who had like 39 or something like that but yeah Denver modern modern NFL 38 points a game in 2013 remember paid manning leaves the cults to go do that in Denver as he breaks a bunch of records after coming back from maybe never being able to move or feel his fingers again with all the shit that was happening with his neck which is crazy but that that's a lofty goal obviously and we've seen ben johnson do what he did in Detroit you know that you would assume that they were up near 28 points a game 30 points a game i believe that was the top 10 scoring offense of all time i think yeah so he's been able to do it in the past Caleb Williams obviously we all see the the incredible. what do your thoughts on what Caleb is going to become and what do you think Ben Johnson is looking for from him in the offense to become the all-time leading scoring offense in NFL history? I'm in, man. I'm all in on Caleb. I'm all in on the Bears. I feel like there's been some reluctance on them where people like, oh, well, no, they're going to take a step back or Caleb. You're not going to see him evolve. He's never going to be able to play on schedule. That's not who he is. I don't believe that at all. I think the steps he took last year and look, it wasn't like he was playing on schedule. This obviously was not on schedule. This play, but it wasn't like he was on schedule 100% of time. But it was improved vastly from year one to year two. And I think now having command of this offense, I think, you know, get Luther Burton healthy back out there. You know, once the season gets rolling, he's going to be a massive impact player to go along with second year tight end and loved one who's going to be better like they're so young. It's so many of these spots. I think they are the only thing for me on terms of like chasing records and those things like, I don't know if weather's their friend there. That's not playing the doors in Detroit. So yeah, Indiana, are they going to be the Indiana bears? No, no, no, no. Think about a politician, just in general, being like a to hell with the entire city of Chicago. I don't think any politician is going to force me. I mean, granted we have not reached out to the governor to ask him that direct question. But I think our incredible assumption would be Indiana would be very excited to have Chicago bears be a part of that area up there. So I there was a tweet that went mega viral last night that people said the name Indiana will be involved in the name or something. And it's like, I can't wait. We got to watch that. We got to watch what's going on because people are getting real worked up about big time. And I could understand that by the way, I don't think the Indiana people as somebody lives in Indiana. I don't think the state of Indiana is like, yeah, we want the name. Like, I don't think there's a lot of people doing. It would be a stupid war for politicians to start, I believe with with both Chicago, which is they're trying to do business with, right? We would like to bear his fans to be coming to that's kind of a huge part of it. A massive part of it is like, we got a lot of space for you here. We got this entire thing. But we don't want to push you out like we're just trying to make this a better experience as opposed to a worse experience, I think. So I don't know what's real. If they don't want to win championships, though, they go to Bloomington. Is that how that work? We had him on Mr. Relentability. Yeah, we had him on the show day. He said it was a one-liner that just didn't lie. But he was talking to his base, you know, he was talking to his base. That was supposed to be a national thing. But there was a lot of people saying he didn't know that Indiana one. So I did ask him. I'm like, he did. Yeah, I was there with my kid. Yeah, I was an athlete, director of rice, whatever. Yeah, I understand that day one. I was just trying to, I think he's going to do good things, but he came in trying to fire them up. I don't know if academically, they're going to be able to get everything that you potentially need. But they got a lot of money. They got astronauts coming up top 10. Okay, as we pivot to college, last question here from AP tone. Yeah, DJ, I can't remember a season that I'm more excited for. And I think it's because I just wrote down a list here. Dante Moore, saying, Manning, Sellers, Carr, Mensa, Eamall Yava, Mayava, Chamblis, Hoover, Mestemaker, Levitt. Those are all potential quarterbacks and next year's draft and the potential quarterbacks are going to be unbelievable this year in college football. Which one of those guys are any guy that are you most looking forward to watching this season and then in preparation for the next year's draft? There, I mean, there is a bunch of them that I'm excited. This is the most exciting. I've been about a college season on a long time because it's just so many quarterbacks. They're everywhere. And I, DJ, NIL brother. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's great, man. I think it's going to be a great college season because of it. You know, art to me, the tools are just, they're, they're special tools. He's just got to put it, continue to put it all together. He's like the opposite of what you would have thought like before you go and study. I thought, okay, you're going to see all the polish. And then, you know, we'll see where he is physically. And then I, when you really, you know, obviously you watch college football and then you really say the tape like this guy has got elite, you know, athleticism, strength in the pocket, the ability to drive the football, all those things are there. He just needs to get a little bit more refined, which he's going to get with playtime. So I think he's been an easy target for his whole life. So there's people that are always going to be skeptical. I'm, I'm a big believer and excited to see him. I'd have more Dante more coming into the season will be my top quarterback, just where he is and how he played last year. Real loose. Everything he does is real smooth and fluid. Obviously there's a, you know, he wants to throw back against the Indiana to start that game. But he's, to me, he's, he's just a real natural smooth thrower, different arm angles, all that stuff. It comes real easy to him. So he would be the top one for me. And then in terms of like just the fundamentals, like looking just crisp and clean, C.J. Carr, you know, for somebody who hasn't played a ton, he is, he is locked in. Man, it is very, it's coaching tape, you know, you watch his feet and the way he throws the ball. He's, he's a really, really good player. So I haven't seen all these guys yet. I've done, you know, sellers would be on the list of someone who just want to see him bounce back after last year. He's got a lot of ability, big, strong, physical tough. I just got to be more consistent throwing the ball. The one guy that I have not watched yet, who I've heard a buzz from teams who think he could end up being the best of the bunch, was Mensa. Man, there's a lot of scouts of love that, dude. I have not had a chance to study him yet. Ten spin it, can certainly spin it. And I think the stacked quarterback position in college football, I think any football. That's why super duper FL is going to struggle. You don't have good quarterbacks, your product's probably going to suck. I mean, that's just how it is for when it comes to football. College, and I mentioned this earlier, because of the NIL, don't say more one back, right? He's able to go back, but it's not just him. He's got a lot of guys back alongside of him, and they're all, you know, comfortably paid and doing their thing, but all focused on a mission. I think everybody thought NIL was going to potentially take away from the game. It's like, I think it's adding a lot of talent, a lot of maturity obviously. They have to cut that back. You can't have like 10 years of football or whatever, but I like what it's doing. It's given a lot of game snaps to people. I love it. I should, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Shambles. Shambles was the most fun quarterback I watched in the off season. I had someone ask me like, hey, could, could, could he be a first round pick? I'm like, could he be a, I mean, Bryce Young was the first overall pick? Yeah, absolutely. This guy talking to folks down, he's like 220 pounds, like he's built more like Russell. He's going to be just under six foot, but he's got a strong lower, like he's, he's sturdy, and he is a playmaker. Agreed. We were on the field watching him play. My first takeaway was this dude could play on Sunday. He was unbelievable. Can't wait for the college season. Can't wait for the NFL. Can't wait to listen to you tonight on the call for charges and Texans. That's Daniel Jeremiah. One year of our brunch is wrapping up. We'll be back on the other side. Be a friend telephone. Some nice, it might change their life. Polarizing figure tonight. Mysteries unravel and stunning truths are revealed when 2020 investigates. Follow the clues, the evidence, the breaking new details. ABC's 2020 news. Truth Murder Mystery. If you follow True Crime in 2020, then you've got to listen to this. Subscribe now to 2020 True Crime Plus. Add free exclusive True Crime content. Search 2020 True Crime Plus on Apple Podcasts and start your free trial. Terms apply. Football is fantastic. We got a whole slate of preseason games tonight, and the stars are going to be out. Joe Burrows playing football night. Jordan loves playing football. Okay. We don't know who's playing tonight for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but we do know that football is going to be happening across the board. Seven PM. It all kicks off on NFL network as the Packers take on the Steelers. Obviously coach Mike McCarthy of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Formerly of the Green Bay Packers still has home in Green Bay as he visits his childhood home Pittsburgh and becomes their head coach. And up to you, the Steelers on the McCarthy era, seemingly have a different juice, a different buzz. Obviously coach Tomman was there for 18 years before he stepped away. Now coach Mike McCarthy gets his first chance to run out on the Acreser as the head coach of Pittsburgh Steelers. That's going to be a fun moment for him. I do assume he will be getting a little bit emotional as we go through their lines or take on the bangles, Joey Bees playing. Anthony Richardson will lead the Colts, former number four overall pick for our Indianapolis Colts. He has a lot to prove potentially other shooters around the league for his services as we just paid Daniel Jones up over a hundred million dollars. He's taking on Tommy two chains. That's right. Hey, when you shoot his pie John walking around, he's always got two chains on. Now listen, Titty Boy is two chains already. So you got to be Tommy to change down there. Sound good for able to set it. Tommy Davido said it and also his agent. He said no problem. Chargers take on the Texans. Cardinals take on the Raiders. Titans take on the 49ers. The stars are out. Football is all the way back. Let's go to one half of the hammer down. That Cowboys AP tone. Go on lad. Did you have to see what Sean Stalato's up to lately? Yes. Yeah, he was trying to play in something, right? Yeah. Oh, he ain't trying. He could be in the Olympics. My friend for flag football for team. He made it. Team Italy. He's on it. Oh, listen, he's on. He's on a flag football team for Italy. Yeah. He's Chuck Pagancoach in that team. He probably should. Yeah, listen, maybe Chuck Pagancoach showed whistle. I'll put you a couple flags on. You know, maybe let's boys running for team Italia. How is that thing going to be? He's the quarterback for them NFL agent Sean Stalato has advanced training camp with the Italian men's national flag football team. It's a lot of report to the Italian Olympic Committee headquarters next month in Rome. Of course. Yeah. As the Romans would do. Right. One in Rome. What do you want to do as the Romans? Sean Stalato will do as the Romans do. Or he'll compete for a roster spot for the world games in Germany, which obviously then leads to the 2028 Olympic. Can you just go down as our photo of them? Oh, yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. Oh, it's good in the North end. That's Tommy two changes. ageing right there. And listen, yeah, I'm wearing J's, but don't question the flag that's there. It looks so. Sorry, go. No, go ahead, buddy. The world games start today, I believe. A Sean Stolato on the team, we shall see. He better be. He's got the talks of table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmitt. Head to an attic in Ohio, a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rodder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawthorne. Hey, listen, maybe you fly back to Germany and try to get on that flag football team, AJ. Yeah, how does that work? How old is Sean Stolato? Is there an age limit? Like, you have to be a, you have to be between like 15 and 50 like how old is it? I mean, you're trying to be an ageist. Is that what you're trying to do? No, not at all. I'm just wondering who else is trying out for this Italian flag football team. Well, 49 is the max age. I guess you could. Every pie is on within the, within the round. He is not very Sean. He is 49. Oh, oh, Jesus. I thought that was. Look at the limit. He could be any age. Listen. Hey, I don't want to get into it, but there are some, you know, genetics. I do believe that the Italians have to keep them younger. I mean, I'm not going to say what it is. You know, because there's other people who probably say, virtue, meat to balls. We put an IV of olive oil on our, in our veins every now and then. That would be the one that I thought you were going to immediately go to Irish man from Boston, but he did not, but shout out to the Italians and shout out to Sean Stolato. Making dreams come true for damn near 50 year olds all around the globe. Crazy. He's got no chance. What do you mean? You shut your mouth all to play flag football. He will not be able to move. He's got no chance. Who's going to be on that team, though? Tommy, Tommy, do change? Yeah, probably football and Italy. Do they play football over that? Do they play football? It seems like it's going to be a lot of Americans with a good Italian family. A Ben Donuch. Yeah, Ben Donuch in my chain. I mean, why does the tone go out for the team? Because I'm on athletic. Okay. All right. I like to hear that. I do like to hear that. Look at this. Yeah. Look at the bend on the 49. That's a live shot today. No, I don't think so. Speaking of live shots from today, golf is happening down at the St. Jude championship. The first round of the FedEx Cup playoffs. There's three weeks. Today is the top 70. Next week will be the top 50. The week after that will be the top 30. At the beginning of the morning, Omi Fleet would ship in for Eagle on par five whole number three. Scotty Sheffler also had a bird there. Scotty was one under. He is now two under. Scotty Sheffler is lurking lurking. This is a live look as we can drop the lower third. Please. Oh, okay. Never mind. Didn't have any more on there. I thought we're going to maybe get some hands. See what we saw from the hands. Scotty Sheffler sweating his ass off down. It's very hot. Said it feels like a 101 or whatever the case. And obviously this kicks off the most important three weeks of the entire season, AJ Hawk is Memphis finds a hush. Is Scotty Sheffler tries to figure out what the hell he's going to do. You can't lead at Fonda's hair, singlish and Jordan's speed. Tommy has dropped back to minus three. Omi! Gary Woodland three under. Kurt Kithiama. Legend also three under. Scotty Sheffler right behind a two under. He tied for seventh. 13th whole hit. Minus two and he's only two hit two of nine fairways. Look at Scotty. Yes, Scotty's been scrambling today down there. Memphis might be because his shirt is absolutely drenched with sweat. Always a great scrambler. Does have a baby still. People forgot about him having a newborn doing this entire season. Still the number one golfer in the world. Everybody is saying he's ass, but he's normally top three in every tournament. Scotty Sheffler with a target that the TV people say he should be aiming for. Nice potato! Absolutely smokes. He flushed it. Ball speed off the tee. 162 miles an hour as it goes into the first cut there. That would not be a fairway in reg, but it would be damn good. He's got a good angle in from there. Scotty Sheffler kind of edging the fairways there which we appreciate. We'll keep you updated from Memphis to get roaring macaroni's taking the tee. Why do you have to whisper with the accent too? Because that's how you do golf. Where in America? You need to respect golf. Roarie's got all of that little body into it, didn't he? Yes, he did. Perfection from Roarie whose ball speed there was obviously way up there. Way up there. Look at him. Is there one more between him? Scotty people will ask congratulations as the boys continue to hunt another tour championship. We will be joined here in a matter of moments by Dan or Lovsky. He's been on TV all morning and a lot of people are saying why you put him on? Well, because it's our turn to attack him. He put out his list of quarterbacks and obviously he's got like arm strength one. The list we go. All right. Okay. I mean that feels like a pretty good one. Ball placement. He's got a list we go. Okay. Sure. I mean that sounds good. I'm sure there's some people that are pissed that they're not on there. You know, there's probably some people that think they should be ranked a little bit higher or whatever the case. Like Brock Purdy. But I mean, he probably thinks to himself, I don't have good ball placement, but I don't have top five ball placement. The entire offense kind of there's obviously some arguments. Then we go to the mechanics one. This is where I believe potentially Fauci told him to do his thing. I think there is a Fauci influence here on this one. Hey, listen, you got to do what you got to do. We're saying Aaron Rogers doesn't have top 10 mechanics in the end of just just mechanics in the NFL. We're saying he doesn't have that at this point or we just to kind of leave him off. I remember this from last year and I'm pretty sure his excuse was what Aaron, what he does, nobody else can do. You can't replicate Aaron Rogers mechanics because nobody else can do them. And I feel like that was his it because we did this last year. I remember with Dan Owen his rankings. I think that is what his entire excuse was with the Rogers. I mean, we'll find out in six minutes, whatever it is. Sounds pretty stupid to me. But once again, we look at this list. We go, all right. Yeah, it feels we have a lot of good quarterback right now. It feels like in the NFL. A lot of good quarterbacks in college as well. We are very blessed by the football gods right now at the most important position. I've been paying attention during the first half to see a first hour to see what he's being attacked for. It's the it's the decision making one that people aren't happy with about right now. Here's his decision making one. Josh Allen who used to be known as bonehead bill's quarterback. Josh Allen right because he would make these bonehead decisions lately. That was like his first couple years in the league where he was just trying to do everything. He was athletic. Athlete. Athleting everybody. I think that was kind of a narrative about Josh for a while. I think what Dan's saying is yeah, right, since he's become the MVP and the guy he makes great decisions. There's going to be a lot of debate about this. Matthew Stafford just won an MVP. Obviously, he's able to move safeties to make his decisions right and move corners to be able to do that at the elite level. Jordan Love, interesting. I'm excited to hear this conversation with Dan Rolofsky on why he went about doing this. Drake May has the best deep ball kind of percentage there is. So whenever he decides to take a shot, he hits whenever he does and he doesn't. And he was finalist for an MVP in his second year, first year in an offensive system. Jayden Daniels. This is what Jayden's people are saying. Exactly. Huh. You put him right here. Top five decision maker in the entire NFL and you guys just hand out his jersey number Willie Nilly Dodd or LSU. It's bad decision. Have you heard about this, AJ? What's going on down there at LSU? I have. Yeah. This is a thing. I mean, it's a real thing that colleges have to deal with. They promise numbers to recruits coming in all kind of stuff. Source story. Yes, being the Daniels fields. He's being treated differently since. And he bangles quarterback Joe Barrow. There's number nine. Jersey hasn't been worn in LSU since he won a Heisman trophy and led LSU to a 15 low record. Maybe the greatest team of all time college football playoff national championship in 2019. Now, can I say what probably happened? Sure. Yes. I think people around Jayden Daniels, I'm not going to say we cannot say who it is, but it's people around it. We don't know exactly who it is. People around him probably say like, don't you think LSU should be treating you a little bit better, especially new coach, everything like that down there. You've done a lot for them. Obviously you transferred in there, had a lot of success. You've shown them a lot of love. They're just kind of handing your jersey. I don't give Joe Barrow's them, right? They don't give her a passion for home. I think somebody probably, you know, presented it in that particular fashion. And then Jayden's like, okay, yeah, probably, you know, like probably just like a casual, you got it. And then all of a sudden people from Jayden Daniels camp are like, hey, we're done with this. I can't happen anymore because they're probably trying to do it. So I don't think this is Jayden Daniels personally saying, I don't like what they're doing to me. I think this is people probably around Jayden saying, we don't like what you're doing to Jayden, how you're doing it. But this does make Jayden look like an asshole, especially because of how great that Joey Barrow LSU football. They're talking about maybe the greatest small time, greatest run of all time and everything like that. But I don't think this was a Jayden Daniels decision. I believe this is probably people around Jayden saying, hey, our guy deserves a little bit more respect than what you're giving him. And on that note, I appreciate them going to bat for him. But everybody's going to talk about how stupid this looks for Jayden. Yeah. And I also, I like immediately when I saw it, I was, I was kind of on that side. I was like, yeah, this looks, this doesn't look greater. Whatever. But I dug into a little bit and I saw a tweet out there, too. There's been three Highsman's at LSU. Jayden is the third. The previous two, their numbers have never been worn since they won the Highsman. So he is the only Highsman that it has been once. Which once again goes like the people around him saying, you deserve a little bit more respect down there, especially if they're going to be using you to sell stuff. So I can understand the team saying that for Jayden, but inevitably, the way that gets framed publicly is that Jayden looks like. And I don't think that's the, I don't think that is how this would go. Personally, just from experiencing similar type situations with people who are potentially told by people, "Hey, this can happen. It's gonna be easy. No problem." Okay. And then it happens. And it's like, I didn't know that's what I was signing up. I don't know if this is what happened, but I am hypothesizing that this is how this took place around Jaden Daniels if I had to get it. Well, and I'm pretty sure as a player who was recruited by Brian Kelly, right? Like he was already there before Lane Kiven got there. So for him, he should also have a gripe with Brian Kelly more than anything, because he won the Heisman with the Brian Kelly team, and then as soon as he leaves Brian Kelly promising, that number to a recruit that probably didn't maybe deserve it. He could obviously go on and be a fantastic player, but that's the other part of it is like Brian Kelly in the state of his recruiting was basically him just promising anything the world to some of these guys. Yeah, he's not the only one. Yeah. I mean, they see him doing his number here, but we've heard some voice memos. Yeah, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. Remember that AJ? I do remember that. My brain kind of blocked that out, but I'm glad you guys brought it back. I will always remind you that that exists in college football, because we have to remember that. That there is some interesting things that have been done in the past to get a player to either come or act like you want a player to come. Inevitably, that player, I don't even think what that was. Well, you remember when that kid made Dan landing travel all the way up to wherever the alley was at and they jumped in the pool together and the kid decommitted like four weeks later or something like that. I mean, you know, and Dan landing just said they charges the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That has to be the case. We'd like to let Jane Daniels know we do think that you should get more respect, especially if they're going to use your NIL to sell stuff, but also whoever's around him saying that this is the right way to go about doing this, you kind of set them up to look at me. You're kind of a social media admin, you're kind of a social media admin here without thinking about what the actual other side of this is going to look like potentially if they want to frame it in a way. Jayden looks like an unself-aware doofus here and I don't think that's the case at all. I think he's worried about ball. Exactly. He's got a lot of shit on his plate right now. He's got a new offensive coordinator. Like if they don't have a good year this year, then it's going to start getting into like the hey, when they went to the NFC championship, was that a few days? Like I doubt right now where we stand with the season this close that he's waking up in the middle of the night every night. I mean like they've retired. My fucking Jersey. I cannot sit with this. So I think you're right, but it is unfortunate that that is the first thing that people go to is just like this guy's a pout and whiney asshole and he needs to shut up. Well, and then as soon as his name comes up with a decision-making list, it's only thing you think of right now. I mean obviously we're a daytime daily show. So there's always news happening. All in my mind, I'm thinking about his man, Jayden's team, I think kind of walked him into this state. They could have handled this a different way. Pat White, he's getting his number finally retired at West Virginia this year, which was a cool moment to be a part of him happy for him. There's a kid wearing five right now on the team. And Pat literally in the moment being announced as things retire, he's like, you could definitely wear it until you're done here or whatever you know. So that was like a cool moment. I think that would have been a cool way to kind of go about doing it as opposed to a full thing. And every once in a while you got to get those lawyers to type something up, kind of scared of shit out people. Exactly. Exactly. But I don't know if coach Oral is going to be scared. No. Tell him we'll go over it. And they also probably, every Heisman in the history of college football has probably had their number retired on the spot. I would have said, not on the spot, but there probably is like a little bit of respect that we paid. Yeah. Yeah. You win the Heisman. I understand. Like if you win the Heisman, they probably should retire your number. Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah. I do. Yeah, I think so. You don't do it instantly. But yes, I understand. Like, yeah, if a guy wins the Heisman, I would be reluctant to give that number out again. But I do appreciate the fact that whoever was trying to make Jayden look like a little baby in this whole thing. But like, he thinks he deserves to be treated like Joe Barrow. Okay. That'll issue to him. That's the line. That was an angle. That was like, okay. Let's bury Jayden. He thinks he spoke. B-U-R-R-E-A-U-X. That's who he thinks he is. I don't think so. Okay. The reason why we got to that conversation is because a quarterback guru did it again. He did. He put out his B-B-L-A. You know, I wouldn't call it a Bible because I don't want to disrespect this man's faith. But he put out his quarterback B-B-L-A. His official rankings and ratings, not just in one particular aspect, but in a litany of them. Who's the best at what? This guy will tell you, ladies and gentlemen, he's on TV from 7 a.m. to 1 a.m. every single day of football season. Your favorite football genius had the chest out today. He did. Brush off a nice VK. Looks like he's big. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana Lovsky. Yeah. What's up? How are you guys? Just got to wake up and keep putting in the hard work, man. What's up? Just got to, just, are you habits? It's a par today? Do you got par habits today or do you got dreams tomorrow? Okay, Dan? Oh. I think that's a Nick Saving quote, so it might be John Gordon, you know, to be honest. I'd like to let John Gordon know. Thanks for the text. John Gordon had been reading everything that was being said to me, sends me a nice fire up text yesterday morning. I won't let him know. That got me going. Legend. Quoted Gandhi to me in the middle of the thing. Wow. Hell yeah. I heard that guy's big deal. So thank you for that, John. Let's talk about you being a big deal whenever it comes to ranking things. You can kind of just say, okay, to most of them, decision making people are pretty upset about you the way you want down. I think the Jordan Love piece is probably a conversation because I think a lot of people think late, late in the season, well, I'm just, I was about to say it. Shut up for a second. Well, I was literally about to say it. Late in the season, he doesn't play his best ball, it plays his worst ball. I think in our minds, we see him throwing up like a punt to somebody at some point because we haven't seen as many of those situations. Now, on the flip side of that, the floor came out and said, this guy's the best at my offense that I've ever been around. And I think you feel the same way. There's been a lot of reactions to your decision making decisions. Why do you think you put this order like this? And who do you think has gotten the most amount of shit that doesn't deserve it? Is it Jordan Love? That is ranked up there as your number three decision maker in the NFL? Yeah, I would assume Jordan, when I put Jordan three there, I figured that would ruffle some feathers, but the evidence, since the evidence, not only in the tape, and I last year consistently said how much more mature he was playing, how much he developed when it came to his decision-making. I think everyone would probably pay his attention to the interception against the panthers. I think that he had one time last year where it's an awful decision. I think Jordan was one of the most efficient quarterbacks in football last year. Jordan Love unequivocally was one of the best decision makers in football last year. And that's one of the reasons why if you look at the touchdowns and sacks or interceptions in sacks and you combine them, you want that number to be significantly lower than your touchdowns. I think Jordan's last year was something of high 20 touchdowns or mid 20 touchdowns, and if you combine the sacks and interceptions in somewhere around like 18, I want to say. So that's a very good ratio when it comes to quarterbacking. And the decisions that are asked, it's not only making good decisions, it's how many stressful decisions do you have to make? Is your offense crazy, easy to operate, or is your offense very detailed and intricate? And so I don't have any problem with Jordan Love that through. I think he was one of the best decision makers in football last year. And obviously got patched my homes on any list down that low. People are going to say, this guy's genius next goat. So having them that low is ridiculous in any part, especially when it comes to decision-making. But you're saying he's a playmaker. He does this. Jalen Hertz just got absolutely dunked on by his own social media team yesterday. Nobody needs that. Lamar Jackson's QBR, like best of all time at one point, right? Especially over there in Baltimore with what everybody talked about. I appreciate you having Matthew Stafford and Josh Allen at the top, especially with how people thought Josh Allen was kind of a bonehead at the beginning of his career. Now he's making good decisions. Let's go to arm strength here because there's a name missing that obviously has been able to spin it for a long, long time. I think I agree on all this, okay, I do. But there's a name missing from this one. And then also, can you go to mechanics real quick? Okay. So Connor said this happened like Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a good form throwing a football. Is that real? He's 100 years old. And last year, he had the longest throw in the NFL last year. So he's over 40, still throwing a ball further than everybody else, which you don't have money arm strength thing, which I think is acceptable because obviously people would do that. But in a mechanics game, is this because he's immunized? Is this because he's, is that, is that what this is, what do you mean? Aaron Rodgers doesn't have good mechanics. I don't think I fully understand what that means. He's a hundred years old still in the NFL. On that note, yeah, why'd you put this list together the way you did? Mechanics, I would say, I've kind of felt for a couple of years that Aaron just is so unique and is throwing that it just is, I don't think there's anybody else who throws the football and has for a long time, like Aaron, from that mechanical standpoint. And so I kind of put him in his own little category. Well, I didn't see that on the list. I would have let you know, we did a top five returners list, and we had Devon Hester actually on the thing saying he's in his own category. Feels like you, when you type this up on ESPN.com, I don't see anywhere in there Aaron Rodgers has his own category. >> No, I don't see that anywhere. We lost them. That's about you. >> It's about you. >> Now I can use the area. >> Yeah, I said this. >> It's about you, it's about you, it's about you, it's about you. >> Yeah, yeah, I get the area, it's about you, super. >> Wanting to get certain names, not certain names, trying to get everybody a little bit of shine at some point. >> Oh, don't like that. >> Yeah, I don't love that. >> Handouts? >> Yeah, they are handouts. >> It's just, I've said this, there's a lot of really good quarterbacks. There's more than 10 really good quarterbacks. And you're trying to shine light or he prays on not just the same 10 names. But the mechanics one was just Aaron. >> Liz, it's got no integrity. >> No, there's nothing we should read for no integrity. >> These are a bunch of damn doubts. >> This is the Dan Wagon kind of hopping on a bunch of different guys. How can I get 30 quarterbacks in here that I think I said something nice about them? Okay, now that we understand that, we understand that, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay, I'm sure Aaron will understand. >> Yeah. >> That's not true. >> What? That's what you just said. Oh, we lost him. All right, Dan, thank you so much. >> Let me be down on, Dan O. >> He's made the list. >> Yeah, multiple. >> Yeah. >> If he gets, I would like to ask Dan what, if he, like as a quarterback, what would he, what is the number one trait? There's five traits he listed, right? What would you want to be number one? >> Let's call him back. I think decision-making probably in there. >> I would. >> I think accuracy, ball placement, I guess is Dan put it. >> Yeah, I think they all matter, right? >> They do. >> It's mechanics taking account like footwork as well. Because I know you always say you got to marry your feet to your arm and all that stuff. I wonder if that takes it. >> And I don't think I'd fully comprehend why he would say Aaron is so unique. It's because he's mastered all of it. Is that what it is? Like his quick release or how it is? >> We can't fathom the brain on this man. >> I can't dive in to his reasoning, because it's so asinine. We work with a guy who's the exact same way and debone. You can't go into their brains because it doesn't make any sense. >> Yeah, well, Dan or Loskey has a lot of good takes and he certainly took a lot of time to piece this together. But I just don't know how he's 50 years old. So he's still slaying the footballer. >> Sixteen, how far he throw last year was the longest throw? >> Sixty nine point eight or something. >> Sixty nine point eight yards is a 40 year old. I assume his mechanics are pretty good. I would just assume that's the case. Because golfing, throwing, kicking, punting, longevity and power and stuff comes from your mechanics being like sound and perfect. So just, but right now we're carrying Aaron Rogers's water. We'll just point out some things for you. Sixty nine point eight yards in the air this throw. He's 40 plus years old at this thing. I'd assume his mechanics are a okay. >> Probably better than ever now. >> How about his arm strength? You take into account that he's almost half a hundred while he's doing this entire thing? Is that what Dan or we don't know because Dan's doing standouts and doing the Daniels. >> Exactly. >> So we can't, we can all work up over this, what he wants. He's kind of, >> Yeah, he is kind of the footballist here. >> He's the football master, isn't he? >> Yeah, I don't like that one bit. >> Maybe he's Stafford on that. >> How Stafford fourth? >> Yeah. >> What are we talking about? >> Yeah, where is it? >> Yeah. >> That's a pretty question. >> I mean, I do get the top three. >> Yeah, I mean, there's levels to this entire thing. Caleb Williams has a gigantic arm. I think that saved his ass a lot last year with how, I mean, he had a couple throws like this. That's just like outrageous on a line. So if you go strictly just how fast can he throw a football? J.J. McCarthy should be on here. >> He should, yeah. >> J.J. But he's, ladies and gentlemen, joined us now alive from a garage dinner, Leskey. >> There's the actual Dan Lagan right behind there. >> Working on the show. >> Yeah, hold on, who's garage is this? >> The workshop. >> Who's garage is this that you're in right now? >> It is my garage. >> No way. >> Okay, ranch is in there. >> No way, it's a movie set. >> Okay, you turn and ranch in there, brother. >> Holy hell. >> This is the top of my Jeep. >> Oh, really? So this is like a lift or that lift. >> That's a cool touch, the lift. >> Where's your toolbox? >> It's right, hey, I think it's probably down on the ground. >> Go about this right there. >> You got a tool belt you wear around? >> I do not have a tool belt that I've never worn around. >> No, it could be Tim's tool man out there, bro. Dan the tool belt. >> Yeah. >> A lot of kids toys, a lot of sports stuff, a lot of lacrosse sticks. >> All right. >> Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Let's move along here. We appreciate your garage. Wait, it appears if you do stuff in there. I think that's going to up your cred. Especially with the nice, trimmed, shaved chest with the fresh tan. >> Yeah. >> You today you really killed it on TV. Good. >> You sky in the warehouse. >> Yeah, you look good. Yes, exactly. You look good on TV today. I will say, welcome back to all of it. We were cooking you there for a while while we couldn't connect to you, of course, yes. I mean, I'm sure you saw it, Aaron Rodgers had the longest completion last year, 69.8 yards. You don't have them on the arm strength thing. I assume you'd have to have good mechanics to be able to throw the ball that far still at this age. You don't have them on the mechanics thing. Decision-making, he's literally trying to slice it. Whatever the case, we understand that there's going to be some quarterbacks left out, especially the oldest one that is still playing and is back with his coach. On that note, let's talk about tonight. What are you looking forward to this evening? What can we learn from any of these games, Daniel? Obviously, Packers and Steelers, you've got Jordan Love playing, so we'll see what the floor is able to do. Cross the board, Joey Burrow is playing. We think that's probably because the Bengals are trying to start a little bit faster this year versus years past. And then as you see, Cam Ward with Dayball for the first time. What are your thoughts here on tonight's slate and what are you looking into? >> Yeah, there's two games that really matter to me. The one that matters the most and most important to me would be the Cardinals Raiders. I firmly believe that if Carson Beck goes out and performs again the way he did in the Hall of Fame game and just looks and produces and operates in that same fashion. The Cardinals just have to have a long conversation about maybe changing what their plan might have been. You go into it saying, we want to sit our young quarterback, Carson Beck. We're not going to be a team that contends this year. They're building for the future. But if he goes out and just operates in places, quick as he did in the Hall of Fame game, I just think you have to sit and change the way you talk about it because it looks a little bit or it felt a little bit like the Dak Prescott stuff in the preseason or Russell Wilson in the preseason where you have maybe a certain expectation and then that expectation or plan can change because of the performance so there. And then with Fernando Mendoza, just the ease that he may look like playing tonight. I want to see that's the word that I've gone into for tonight with Mendoza's ease, ease in and out of the huddle, ease at the line of scrimmage, ease handling deformations and emotions in the shifts, ease under center and the operation of maybe some of the play action stuff and getting him on the move and so and then if it if there's a moment of frustration or adversity just does that speed him up or does is he able to kind of play slow like not slow but in control the way he did in college. And then I probably said the connection that I'm most interested paying attention tonight is camworn and carnell tape. I think the Titans can be sneaky just competitive this year, you know, but how good the step in your two for camworn is and really the attachment to carnell tape you see the social media clips from Tennessee it's he looks to be every bit the part of that number one wide receiver. If if that can be like a really prominent connection, the defensive line in Tennessee can be awesome this year. Everyone knows. Awesome. That's a good defense. Awesome. Awesome. And so I just think that if that that duo is impressive tonight, it starts to kind of fall Tennessee into a conversation of a team that's just going to be really difficult to contend with. Yeah, I can have the whole combo about Tennessee this year that we had about Carolina last year. Hey, that's good football team. That's a good football team. I don't think anybody is inside Tennessee Titans locker room. They should be expecting to win a Super Bowl. But I don't think anybody is expecting Tennessee Titans to win a Super Bowl. I think all anybody wants to see that is around the Titans and us included because how much we love the city in Nashville and how close it is. It's like, let's just show like we're a good football team. It should be a good football team out here. Got Salah. You got Dable. You got Cam Ward. You got Karnel Tate. Jeffrey Simmons is outrageous. I mean, there's a chance. From Rio Robinson. Yeah, and also new stadium, new facility. I mean, they got a lot of good stuff coming there. Hopefully they can piece it together. Maybe tonight is a little bit of a showcase of that Titans and Niners for fights in one practice. No, we do. Already enjoying practice. 10 minutes. Let's assume that tonight could get a little fiery and then let's go back to your Raiders conversation. I was watching the inside training camp live last night with Chris Rose and Michael Robinson. And Michael Robinson. I want to let him know the length of his dreads at this awesome. I mean, they sit like they are. My first time seeing him in, I don't know, what, six months, maybe a year? I don't think I've seen him enough. Now that hopefully we're working together on a little bit more with the NFL Network ESPN thing that we got going on. Shout out to Baldi yesterday. But he said he was at Raiders practice and he said, coming out of Fernando's hand, it looks really good. He said the checks at the line look very good. He was like, Fernando looks very much the part of NFL quarterback and I can't wait for that to happen. Dan Arlovsky, whether that's tonight, week one, week four, week six, we need you in that garage with that top of that Jeep bashing you in the head about what's going to happen whenever it takes place. Sounds good, Dan? Sounds like a plan? Yeah. I mean, I don't love the bashing of the head, but, you know, if it's… Fernando ends up being a really, really, really good player. I'm sure you'll be the first person to call me. - Yeah, a lot. - Yeah, yeah. - You'll be live on air. Okay, let's talk about some other things happening around the league. Go ahead, Con, man. - Yeah, Daniel, maybe it is Cam Ward and Brian Dayball, but what kind of new quarterback, OC duo, are you most looking forward to? Daniel Jeremiah was on here talking about McDaniel in Herbert, how great that's looking. I know Declan Doyle, Lamar, Gough, Petsing is another. What is kind of the new duo that you see having a lot of success and you're excited to watch? - Yeah, definitely McDaniel and Herbert. I think Justin Herbert should be in the MVP conversation this year, well into December and could have his best season. If you think about Mike McDaniel and just that offense, right? That offense has often been with a quarterback that has based upon anticipation and like touch layer throws and maybe physically stature isn't the most impressive player. He's had two of who's been that ball placement guy. There's been Jimmy Garoppolo, ball placement guy. Little bit maybe not as strong as Vennarm. It's an average arm. And so the quarterback Brian Hoyer and Cleveland, I believe, was there when Mike McDaniel was there. So these quarterbacks that aren't the physical dominant specimen that Justin Herbert is. And now you have this post that has had to kind of build the offense around that style of player with a quarterback that is made of a lab out of a lab. And he is six foot six. He is 240 pounds. He has an absolute cannon for an arm. And he's a freak athlete. And so my brain goes to, okay, the quarterbacks can have to adjust a little bit to how he plays in some of those layered throws. We've talked about that. But then it's, well, how does the play collar and the offensive coordinator and the guy who's designing the offense? Does he alter a little bit? And I think if both of those guys can really get to a little bit of, I guess, compromise. But really, I level of understanding of, okay, the quarterback's great at this stuff. Let's build all of our stuff like that. And then this play collar really needs this out of me. I think this could be one of the better offences in the league and the quarterback could be absolutely in the MVP conversation. - Can I wait to see the Chargers fan base get to experience that? They've been through a lot, man. A lot of heart breaks over there. - Tough years. - A lot of turnover, a lot of new transition, a lot of value. We should be good. And hopefully this is the year that they do that. Let's pivot from them to the NFC North. Obviously, huge decision was made yesterday. Go ahead, Ty. - Yeah, Dan, I don't think anyone was really surprised that Kyler got the nod as starting quarterback. But what did you take from that whole thing? And ultimately, you think is JJ McCarthy's time done in Minnesota and would any other team even want to trade for him at this point? - Well, I think in Minnesota, it's the easiest place to play quarterback in the NFC outside of maybe LA. So this is teed up for Kyler Marie to rebuild his career. You're talking about a pass catching group that is in the conversation for the best in the conference. And if you include the tight end, TJ Hockinson, absolutely three really good and proven receivers and Hockinson, you can have a top 10 offensive line. You can have a top 10 run game. You got a coach in a play call in Kevin O'Connell. That's one of the very best in the NFL doing it. And then you got a defense that is going to be in that top five conversation. All you need to do if your Kyler Marie is not be bad. And think about the context of that. That's how easy your situation instead of business right now. - I heard this one before. - Yeah, it just says about JJ. - quarterback play, yeah. Actually, I think the fight each year better. - Yeah, I understand. I understand you like in respect to hell out Kevin O'Connell, which we certainly do is we certainly do. - Dude, they were in 98 last year with bad quarterback play. If they get good quarterback play, which Kyler is shown to do plenty of times throughout his career. Yeah, you're looking at a team that should be a 10 win, 11 win team, absolutely. And so yeah, I think that it's teed up for Kyler. I think the biggest challenge, I think there's two things deep into the football world. Number one, Kyler just has not been a guy that has excelled throwing these crossing routes, these horizontal routes from one side of the field to the other. It's a big part of this offense in Minnesota. He's led the NFL in interceptions over the past four seasons on that type of route. So that's going to have to be the big step for Kyler. I think the challenge for Kevin O'Connell is going to be in these play action past protections, which is a big part of their offense. Part of it is you're trying to build in some of these passing lanes. And I think the way that Kevin O'Connell is able to maybe tweak some of their play action past protections to build in passing lanes to promote Kyler's vision and give him clear lanes to see through, I think is going to be just the interesting part from how much that offense may be from the protection standpoint changes to allow Kyler to see and really hit some of those crossers. - Is there a passing window thing that K.O.C. has to create for Kyler? Did Sean Peyton do that for Drew Brees or did Drew Brees have-- - Bingo. - Bingo, that's the exact example. I remember multiple times-- - Think about it. - Wow. - That's it. I remember multiple times doing touch screens on that of being like, think about it from this perspective, the starting point when Drew was under center, tackle to tackle or tackle to tight end is, let's call it seven or eight yards, right, the width. That's going to be a very shrunk down space for a quarterback to see. And then with the play action and where you launch or set the quarterback up, you can create a two or three yard wide passing lane for the quarterback to see. And so Sean Peyton was great at that wood. And part of it is like where the double team goes to, AQ would know this really well. And so like, yeah, that's going to be the challenge when you're trying to do some of that stuff is like building in those passing lanes for those in the quarterbacks in that play action. Sean Peyton, I think, was probably the best I've seen at it. - Pretty good back flexibility and shrank 'cause you were trying to find those windows there. Hey, he's coming back good, isn't he? - Oh yeah, he's going down. - Tanner Locks, they're going to ask him a tanned up. - Looks good, about a gray in that here. - I dusted it off and I'll take that. - Dude, I'm so gray, but. - He did dust off the old. He'd take you to average quarterback play. They're going to be in the opposite championship. That was last year, we just ran that back. But every once in a while, you do have to go into the bin and say, hey, this is still true. Throw that one right down a plate there. Which we respect and appreciate because we will now act like that is gospel. Like everybody does, especially with your dand out and dand wagon list that you made for ESPN.com. Let's go down to New Orleans. Obviously, big conversation could be happening around them with a man with a oversized leather helmet on his head, AP tone. - Thank you, appreciate it. I can see it now. - Yeah, they said it looked like a medieval soldier here. - Yeah. - You look like they're about to get on the horse and do that. - Yeah, I'm big going, yeah. - Yeah, I'd be much higher ranked. I would have the full face show, but that's fine. Dand reports coming out of Saints and Jags. They joined practice today is that Shuck and the Saints offense just kind of manhandled the Jags. That's kind of what we've been here in all training camp and how do you feel about the Saints offense this year with a Lava and Jordan Tyson and all the weapons that they currently have? - Yeah, this is an offense that is young and talented and obviously the addition of Travis H.Anne brings an element of certainly the physical run game, but also he's a guy that you want to get the ball to because he's so difficult to tackle. - The biggest thing for me in New Orleans is can those two receivers stay really healthy? Huge fan of Olave, so happy he got his cash. He's had some injuries in his past. So fingers crossed that he can stay healthy and then Tyson dropped I guess a little bit because of some of the injuries of his stuff. And so if those two players because the two thing or the thing that those two guys do so well is they are elite route runners. You know Olave has always been one of those just savvy, nuanced, clean route runners that can just get open and then Tyson's the same way. Johnson that the tight end is a really nice player with his big frame and so I'm not as bullish on the Saints as some other people. I like the bucks in the division, but I do think that there's a lot of young talent on this offense and Tyler Schuck going into year two with the offensive line plays a little bit better. Kellan Moore should have a very good offense. Last question from AJ here about tonight. Yeah, Dana, when we hear people talk about these quarterbacks aren't facing much when they face a preseason defense. It's very vanilla. I guess can you contrast what that's like as a quarterback facing a preseason defense versus a regular season defense with everything in the playbook and in the game plan? Yeah, it's a very different regular season to preseason. Preseason you're seeing a lot of like one or two coverages and those one or two coverages are your basic zones and or man's and you're not getting a ton of disguise of what that coverage could be or potentially could be. And then there's the variance of that coverage, AJ, right? So you know, I'll go to Carson Beck last week. A lot of the coverage he saw was your traditional like covers through. three, where the corners have the deep third to safety as a deep third and those underneath defenders are what they are. And then there's the cover threes that are covered three carry, cover three match, cover three cloud. And so you're not going to see the variety of those, even that one coverage in the preseason like you will in the regular season. And you're not going to get your protections attacked by certain pressures and blitzes. And so that's why these joint practices are such a big deal. I think that's why I've been a part of preseason games where coaches will go to the opposing coach and ask that opposing coach to do certain stuff against the offense to see how they handle it. Hey coach, when we get into these looks, can you bring us all kinds of pressures or defensive line games? We're trying to see how good we are at it. So it's a different world regular season coverage wise in comparison to preseason. It's night and day. Yeah, so people are saying you shouldn't be judging a whole famed game maybe on what the regular season is. Well, we get chance maybe see the night. That's right. If you try to send back can do it a little bit more. Or if Jacobi percent is ready. I mean, they're paying him to be a starter. He looked great for that team last year. He held them together. Can't wait to see him as we kick off this preseason officially this evening. This is Tanner Lobsky, the internet saying. Not just Tanner Lobsky. Dano, how do you feel about last thing here quickly? We have a team ride that we're doing this evening. It's called the old bull in the on calf. Two plus team passing TDs for the Raiders tonight. Odds are plus 170. Obviously, if you're of age and agreed to gamble responsibly and not like an asshole, we'd love for you to come join us on the best sports book on Earth. Draft Kings, how do you feel about this? Dano, obviously it's preseason game. So let's not be crazy. But I feel like Kirko and Nando. Right? So this means if they throw, they have to throw three for the wind of two plus, just two. Yeah, yeah, no, I like this. I like this. I like this. Dano, I like this. Just think Kubiak offensive guy. You're going to get a keeper touchdown pass in this game by one of those two guys. So yeah, I like this. OK, OK. Now responsibly, we like this responsibly, man. We like it. No, no, no, no, we like laser gentlemen. We like Dan Orozka. Dano. Hey, Jim. We'll get you back here in a second. We're a part of a big announcement now, which we are incredibly lucky. Now, since the beginning of the big three, I feel like we've actually kind of had a bit of a relationship with the entire operation. We've seen it become a live event every single time every single venue that they stop at this weekend. They actually have their semifinals happening. The ultimate weekend for the big three this weekend down there in Dallas says, you know, we got the ball hogs. They can untriple it. Go. Now, the Boston ball hogs are a damn good team. Yeah, they don't have the best record though remaining. You know, that belongs to us. Oh, that's the Dallas power. They're 71. They're coached by who? Nancy Lieberman. Oh, yeah, have you ever heard of her? I think you have. And then, obviously, the Miami 305 are the reigning champs. They currently only have a four and four record. But, obviously, this is one the lights are the brightest. They're ready to go. Joining us now is the founder of the league. And I believe he's going to be making an announcement about who won their coach of the year. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, music icon, movie icon, sports icon, ladies and gentlemen, American Dream Story, straight out of Compton. Ladies and gentlemen, I know that. What's happening with you, man? How are you doing, brother? How's life over there for you? Oh, it's great, man. Big three playoff time, man. That's what it's all about. I know we got the ball hogs taken on the triplets. We got the Miami 305, the reigning champs, obviously, taking on the Dallas power, 7-1 and Nancy Lieberman. Congratulations on another successful season. What are you most excited about with this? A year, as opposed to years past, with the big three. And what should we look forward to this weekend, Donor and Dallas? Man, I'm excited that we get more basketball right before football kicks in. Some meaningful games. This season has been great. The big three has taken a leap forward. We also go in public if you want to spend some of that money. Oh, T-O-N-T, three on three. And you know what I mean, you could be part of this. And so I'm excited about not only coming down to the stretch with the best teams in the league, but what the league has in the future. It's great to be a part of the uptake of the big three. Hell, yeah. And obviously, the Olympics, anytime there's three on three basketball conversation, we would like our big three guys to be conversated about. We don't want all their logistical bullshit rules to keep the best three on three players out of the Olympics. We'll speak for you ice cubes. So you don't have to get into a war with them again. Congratulate, yep, you got you, got you. And then also we got a celebrity game, I believe, this weekend. Ocho's playing in this game. Cannot wait to see how he plays. He's obviously a freak athlete. I like what you're doing, man. Every live-- every game that you have, every round that you have is a full on live event. And I appreciate you making it a good time. Can you talk a little bit about the celebrity game that's taking place? And is Ocho about the winner's-- Gillie's the god. Yeah, Gillie. Come on, he's like three time MVP. Him and Walo, when they get together, he put the batteries in his back. And they're going to come out. Last year, he didn't win it. So he's coming out for his fourth. Of course, Ocho is out there, which is great. We got Dakota, Jalen Gonzalez Plan, which is cool, MD Motivator, and Keith Glock is going after Gillie from what I understand. OK, good luck, Gillie. Anytime you've got Keith Glock on that ass, could be a potential problem. I think you have an announcement to make about this particular season, and we're honored to be a part of this. Ice Cube, if you want to make an announcement on who the coach-- remember, the coaches in the big three, all icons. Literally, all icons across the board. It's a lot of the game, giving back to the game in the big three. And we have an announcement to make here, a coach of the year for the big three, Ice Cube. Who won that? The coach of the year is Gary the Glove Patent. [APPLAUSE] You know, he's the day one, big three alumni. He's been there from day one to this day now. And he's always in the playoffs. Always find himself. He's a champion in the big three with the big whack a few years back. And now he got the Boston ballhawks in the playoffs for the first time in Lee Hish. So I was exerting it. Hey, let's welcome ladies and gentlemen, the coach of the year from the big three, basketball icon. Hall of Fame, shit talker. Ladies and gentlemen, the Glove, the coach of the Boston ballhawks, Gary Payne. Yeah, that's good. Congratulations, man. Coach of the year, I mean, it was just a couple years ago. It felt like you were going to fight an entire big three team. I forget what that was. Now you're coach of the year. Congratulations, Glove. This is awesome. How do you feel about the big three and where it's at now versus maybe a couple years ago? We're Pat, you know what? Ever since Ice Cube had asked me to coach any nine years ago, you know, man, Ice Cube was really tight. And, you know, I stay with him because I notice it's going to work. And it's his has worked. And, you know, what Ice Cube has let me do is he let me be me. You know, he let me pick the guys I wanted to pick. They sometimes say that I picked the wrong guys. But, you know, I always bring a team to the playoffs. I didn't brought three different teams to the playoffs. You know, I win when I get there. I just get the guys that I know that I can coach and it'll play like me. And I'm very happy to have this honor. Thanks. And I thank Big Three. You know, this is the lead that I want to be, want to coach in and do the things that I do. And everybody, look at for it, the big three this weekend that because we're going to have some two good games. It's going to be really, really exciting. Well, good luck to the Boston ball hogs as they continue. And your third team that you brought to the playoffs in the big three, you talked about people sending picked the wrong people. Sounds like you picked the right people for your culture. I couldn't even imagine a Gary Payton team culture. That would be fucking awesome. I would let you know, I think I would fit in in your culture. I do believe that is something I would like to do. Gary, I would like to say that that's me complementing myself. But I do think I would like to ride alongside the glove in something. Well, Pat, you know what you got to do is come out out to the combine. Matter of fact, I'll make you one of the captives, man. So you come out there and do what you got to do, man. I think you fit in too. OK, I like that a lot. But you have to remember the coaches here in the big three. We got Clyde Dreads. So we got Dr. J. Yeah, Nancy Lee from me got Gary Payton. I'll ask you, but I think you have done a, what's that like a pointed, a focused, I think you've done a focused job on keeping the legends of basketball involved with the big three. I don't want to like speak for you, but why is that so important for your big three? And why are people like Gary Payton such a big deal for you and your league? Oh, I mean, we learn so much from them. Not only are they our heroes, but you know, they give the league so much credibility. And you know, when a guy like Gary Payton is around for 19 years, a guy like Dr. J. Clyde Drexler, our commissioner, here for so long. It just gives us credibility that we're headed in the right direction and we're doing something right to keep these legends around focus and wanting to win in the big three. So what's great about Gary Payton winning this award and all our awards is voted on by the players and coaches. The league has no say in that, it's really an honor of his peers letting him know that how they feel about him. And that's how it should be and that's how it is in the big three. That's awesome that Ice Cube's giving you a $5 million bonus for winning the coach of the year. It's one very man who's a Boston ball. Man has the last question for you guys. Yeah, Ice Cube, Russell Westbrook just retired. Is that something where you're going to reach out directly and be like, hey, come on over, keep playing ball. Where do you give him some time and then wait and see if they want to join the big three. We'll give him a week, but you know, people want to see him play. Regardless if he plays in the NBA or not, people want to see him play. He still has millions of fans who would love to see him come out and play in the big three. Not only him, but a lot of players that are superstars out here in the world of basketball. Why not get the fans what they want? It's illegal. You're around your peers. You're around greatness being the part of the big three. And it's fun and why not keep it going? Yeah, and we can make a little money, do a little impact, make a little magic happen here as well. I think that's all good thing for retired players. And Gary, last question for me. What is the style of player that's best for three on three? Big three basketball. Obviously have to shoot. But it feels like every time I watch, there's a lot of mid range and we're getting grimey underneath. It's a lot more defense, I think, than people would imagine three on three. What does your team look like? And what is a good big three player look like? Well, but you're out on the stand yet, Pat. And then a cube going. I'm already recruiting Westbrook already. Don't worry about it. There we go. I'll put it on the ticker. I'm recruiting already, you know what I'm saying? But no, Pat, what we do is it's a grind. And I think that's what you grew up on. I grew up on the Magic Johnson days and all of them type of days. You remember when he made his phone, super solid, he's playing the Lakers and stuff like that. We grind up in the big three. I get guys who are going to play gritty. They're going to play defense. People don't understand it's harder to play defense than three on three basketball than on five on five basketball because there's a lot of help on five on five. But three on three, you got to be accountable for your man. If he get beat, there's no help on the weak side. It's not an act. You got to keep people in front. And then you got to be gritty and rough. And I think this is what I think it's about. I think it's about being competitive and doing great things. But what's a great thing about it right now is everybody's coming in shape. Everybody is there. Everybody is making a competitive. And that's what it's all about. And I think my team is gritty and gritty like that. Hey, I just give you guys a test for weed over there or any of the other science that I could be on. Hey, man, we just worried about what's going on on the court, man. OK. Hi, all right, good news, good to meet you. We don't have rookies or guys coming straight out of college. He's a grown man with kids that they own. They probably want to check their kids drawer. I ain't going to be checking in. OK, see you later. That's how we can sign off of ESPN. We're still live on digital. We appreciate you guys for joining us. King Gratzcube on the success of his league. I know how much you put into this. And Gary, this is so cool. You're giving back to basketball still and getting honored by your peers. Congratulations, boys. Thank you guys for all the support in the big three, man. You guys always been right there, letting people know how the league is growing. We appreciate it. And we'll see you guys soon. I'll tell you what, I'm getting-- I'm on a lot of science right now. If you guys aren't testing, that's good news. I'm getting in a pretty good shape. I'll tell you, Gary. I got you, Pat. I ain't look. I'm going to drive you next year, man. Boom. Yeah, it's awesome. All right, I appreciate you, boys. Ladies and gentlemen, it's coach of the year, Gary Payton, and IceQ, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. Good for that, man. Thanks, King Gratzcube. Congratulations for all of the basketball. Yeah, you're a basketball hog. We're shipping up to Boston, baby. Hey, yeah, yeah. Oh. It's close. Let's talk about what's going to go on. I saw it going. But I'm going to jack the-- Yeah, he's not jacked. You just got to drive the ball. Number one overall pick. Oh my god, dude. Hogs are hogs. Hogs are hogs. Zah. Ball hog. Safety corners. Yeah, by-- Ball hog. You ever know, because you're the glove. Yeah, he's stealing. Maybe they're the ball hogs next year, if they don't win the title this year. Sounds like they got multiple names. Yeah, little red. The ball hogs plays. Ladies and gentlemen, join us now. The guy that isn't drafted to the big three, AJ Hog. He's a big-- oh, sorry. Oh, go. Yeah. You better get-- you better go out there shooting, man. Hi. If he drops you, you better get ready. Thank you, AJ. Yeah, man. I better set it up myself. I'm going to set it up better myself. You're right. And I know what-- You want those shooter machines? Get that machine that fires it back. We got one already. Yeah, we got one. Yeah, we got one. It turns out it. That's way-- It's fucking huge. Way too much work. It broke. Yeah, it's-- It wasn't fun, though. Yeah, we had it for a good, like, two months. We were really operating. I think we're going for it. It was good. Two eye maintenance. Yeah. The balls would get clogged up. And then it took up so much space. We thought we had it figured out. We're like, we're all going to have perfect jump. Yeah. This thing's just going to feed us a hundred balls at the time. But then after like 20, they think it just stops. So now you're taking unplugged that thing and do this entire thing. And all of a sudden, what you were thinking was 10 minutes is now 25, 30 minutes. And then all of a sudden, it's like, how about I just shoot this thing? And I'll go get my revolving. And then I'll do it again. So I think we have been slowed down in our pursuit of perfection with our jumpers. But we've certainly put the working. I don't think I should be playing in that Darius Butler should be playing in the big three. He's actual player. Yeah, but the glove didn't say he was going to draft Darius Butler. Yeah. That's one of those things where I could just kind of do the-- Yeah, like a proxy. Yeah. OK, come this week. Debut's going to play in my stead. That's going to be first week. And then guess what else? Probably second week. Sure. True. And probably a third week is more. It's physical over there, man. Debut can handle, but it is definitely physical. Yeah, they're all huge. They are gigantic. Yeah. NBA guys. He's all X NBA guys. And it's like, good luck getting a shot off. You know, that's kind of the entire conversation. It's like, I can stand in the Thunder Dome and knock down some shots, for sure. I mean, we have a basketball court in the office. So I should be able to knock down some shots. Getting a shot off, you see? That's where the problem lies. Yeah, true. Because even if you have a step back on yourself, it's like, OK, who are you playing against? Somebody at the YMCA? Or are you playing against a guy who's six, six, many ease? Just going to do one of these right here in your face. It's like, they play real hoops over there. Oh, yeah. They're really playing. And from year one, I like that Gary mentioned that. He was like, you're one. I think guys were trying to figure it out. Year two, even. He said, now guys see opportunity in this. As opposed to just like, OK, this is a side show. And guys are really doing it. And with the Olympics, what I was mentioning there, it's like these guys are by far win the Olympics. Any of these teams that they have, but there's like a bunch of what? The qualifiers. Yeah. Internaments that they have to go to that, like, none of these guys will be able to get to when they're scheduling. And it is a lot of drama. Like when the Olympics come around, three on three hoops are going to come up. And we're not going to win. No. And we are going to be very confused on how we got killed last time. And we had like, jimmer for debt. And they met old. Yeah, got murdered. And it's because, obviously, three on three different game. But the only people that can play are the people that can show up at these different things that are timed through the calendar year. The way ice cube describes it is to force these guys not to be able to do it is kind of how that was kind of talked about, which you can't have a belief, but big three is still doing it. And every time it's just like a live concert event. Yeah. So I think it's a good idea. Yeah. I like it. I like what he's doing. I appreciate what he's doing. I wonder if he's written any more movies. I'm sure. You got to remember ice cube. I think they are doing 23 jump Street. They are. I believe that in-- he's a pretty big part of that. I'm pretty sure he knows. Yeah. Dude, his brain-- he's got a good brain. He's got a very active brain, I would say. Just writing all the time. We say, how NWA straight out of Compton? What an accomplishment. It's like, yeah, Friday too. Oh, yeah. You got a 20th jump Street too. Yeah, what else-- oh, he's got a fucking basketball lead to your runs. What else always being tasked and assigned to do this? Mount Westmore. Yeah, he's got another album. Yeah, it's like-- he's got a lot going on. I respect and appreciate how-- his boy, now Big Time Wrestling, podcast, right? With from Rich Eyes and Show TJ. I think they're doing, like, pretty big WWE stuff. It's the same deal. He's starting to really get into the Hollywood machine and being in bunch of movies. Ice Cube does have a movie in development, currently called "Crowman Paint," so-- And it's going to be good. All right, tonight-- well, it's not guaranteed any times. Tomorrow, the diary of a polarizing figure will be up. He's right. Sometime tomorrow, it'll be up. What do you mean? What do you mean? Sometime after 11.59 PM tonight. Yeah, sometime tomorrow, this thing will be up and a bot-- it says midnight on that thing. We might be kind of a little bit cool. You just-- you never know. We might be kind of a little bit-- It might be, though. Just turn notifications on. It does help, I guess, that, like, record labels have this shit all figured out, you know? Yeah. Yeah, just trying to kind of figure this out in real time, uploading this stuff. I mean, how hard is it? Just put it up there. Let's go ahead and let it run. Well, it's got a lot of different platforms. It's got to get through. Obviously, there's a bunch of coding that has to take place. Well, I'm giving you lyrics. just put the lyrics, and they're like, well, the lyrics then have to be matched up to the song, which has to go through an entire thing. It's like, well, it seems like here's the last one. Then all the credits also, who was playing what instrument here? Oh, my God, okay, let me type all these up. Thank you. - Oh, yeah. - Actually, Ilia, can you help me out here? No problem, but I got you there. It sends it over. It's like, it's been a process learning the entire music industry. And I'll tell you what, the last step of getting it up onto platforms, we're learning about it in real time. - There you go. - Shout to Tim from the notes platform. - Okay. Is it in our phone? - No, that's the notes app. - Not Tim Apple. - That's Tim Cook. And I don't think he created the notes app either on your iPhone or iPad. This is Tim Luckow, I believe, is a founder of the notes platform, which is a independent artist uploading a music notes. - Like a music notes? - Yes. - With a K. - No. - No. - What? - No. - Not like night. - No. - Did you work doing night talk earlier, got you all jacked up? Just an N, it's just an N-O-T-E-S. But it is a platform and Tim over there has helped me out immensely. As are the fine folks at England and the lads from Big Loud who have helped me through this entire process, which I'm very thankful for. But yeah, album will be out tomorrow. - At some point. - Tomorrow. - Tomorrow. - Okay, okay. - And I need folks to learn lyrics so they can sing along side me. Whenever we come perform these live, I cannot wait for that. I assume game day mornings gonna be a Lisa song or two, but if people don't absolutely hate the songs, which I'm very proud of what these songs have become. The people that have been working on these songs are so wildly talented. It is very obvious that the musicians that played on this thing are first class. I am so grateful to all of them that lend their time and their talent to my words and my story. And I think what they become is pretty sweet. I'm like very, very proud of them. I can't wait for people to hear them. I've been hearing these songs, some of them for like 20 years in my head, like this entire thing. So for others to be able to get a chance to hear it, I'm very excited about. And for the boys who have had to listen to this, you know these songs and the evolution of these songs ever to last couple of months. I appreciate, I appreciate. - Pretty cool, yeah. - Appreciate your efforts. It's been fun learning this industry. It's been fun learning these songs. And it's been fun just kind of doing it all. I can't wait for people to hear. I'm excited for people to hear. - Oh yeah. - With some lyrics in there. There's some lyrics in there, AJ. - Wait, you think some people might take some offense to the lyrics that they're talking about, them? - Well, if they do, that's on them. But I feel really good about the old pen, you know? I feel, especially after listening to a lot of the other stuff that's coming out, I feel really good about some of the stories that are told. But also there's like some really personal shit that I'm putting out there. So I've gotten to a point where I'm like at peace with like, I'm excited for you all to hear this. Mostly because I think if I was to die, which is possible at any moment, my kids will be able to listen to these songs and be like, I, we know exactly who this fucking guy was. I think, that is what this album does. So I am, I'm most excited about that. But also I think I got some bangers. I think there's some bangers in there. I think people are gonna be surprised. Had to learn how to sing through this entire process. That's been fun, you know? Kind of directing your air through your vocal cords. You know, vocal cords are in a little bit, we need to tighten those things up. And then where are we sending that through? Is it gonna go through your nose areas? Is it coming through your chest? Is it back the head? What level are we at? Can you float down that entire thing? Coach Gaiten, what a beast. She's giving me, I do drills. I got like things I'm doing in the morning and the shower. Extrouching. Yeah, legit. Yeah. I feel really good about it. I feel really good about it all. I hope you will enjoy it. It'll be out sometime. There you go. Time after midnight. Tim is telling me, no problem. We'll get it up there. Just everything that I'm reading. We know how to tear it, Coach. Yeah, exactly. I would trust him. He seems like a trustworthy guy. Tim's been a man. I'm sorry. Tim has been the no worries, gotcha. I can tell you, he talked about him originally that a good guy. Yeah, very, very good man, if you will. He is a good man. He was, actually, we don't know anything about him as a person. Okay, no, no, good man. We assume he is with the way I have talked to him in a way he's talked to me. I think he's a great man. But yeah, he's been super no worries. No worries, no worries. But I'm reading a lot of things and they're like, should definitely be in, like, maybe two weeks ago, a lot of stuff we're kind of doing over the last 48 hours. So maybe that's all just a bunch of bullshit. Probably. We'll find out. Yes. Hey. How many songs? I think it's going to be in 14. Nice. Jeez, that's a good chunk. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, 14's pretty good. How'd you know that? I was with a couple on the edge that you thought about putting on that you're not, that, you know, maybe later? Yeah. Yeah. We got a couple in McCann if you will. But I think 14 television stories. I think these songs are all in the same ilk, yeah, ilk of songs, if that makes sense. This particular album, The Diary of a Polarizing Figure, I think people look back and say, "Wow, I think we really got a chance to peek inside with this guy, what drives him, what motivates him?" What makes him tick, as they said? Yeah, yeah. What he's telling himself when he's going through some shit, there's a little bit of that. There's perspectives maybe on the world in what's happening in certain times, because I would head to my notes section anytime something's happening or anytime I would get like a little creative freedom. So going back through them, it's been fascinating to kind of, you know, how I was seeing things at one particular time of my life. Like maybe when things were going very terrible for me and then whenever things were like maybe going pretty good and it's like pretty cool to kind of read through like what my words and thoughts are going those, you know, because it's all, I think it does kind of paint a picture of exactly, I think who, I think, I think, I think you, I'm explaining myself a lot in here. I think, you know, but I think people are going to be able to relate to it because, I mean, we'll see. Straight from you. Straight from you too. No filter, just your thoughts. Yeah, there's a couple hilarious lyrics in there too, I'm excited for people to react to. There's a couple funny ones I feel like, a little bit of singing in there. There's one song where I sing my ass off, it took us like 30 times to get it off you. You know, we're going to be working on that one until we have to perform that one live. You know, we're going to try to get there, but there is some real, there's some real singing in a couple of these things. Then there's a little bit of heat, you know, a little bit of heat in there. Got some big drums on a couple. Great guitar solos. I mean, we got some nasty guitar solos. Absolute face melters. Well, legit. I mean, there is some real, because I think some people just assume this is going to be like a rap album, I think, because that's what a lot of ex athletes do, you know, and it's like, no, no, no, we, we, I mean, there's certainly some rapping, but let's not get it twisted. There are some, there is some rapping in there, but we got, we got a lot of variety of songs. We got a lot. We got rock songs. We got country songs. Why? Island songs. It's not like a black boy max for that. No, but I do listen to the his stuff. I think he's good writer. I like, I think he's good writer. Darren Waller, I think he's good writer. Back. Obviously, yeah, congrats to Carolina Panthers signing Darren Waller. Big hit. I mean, that's huge. He's going to be outrageous. I know. So obviously, Shack and Darren and Bobby, I think had some macho man in the mood. Yeah. Be a man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So I am honored to join the athletes who have dabbled in the music world, but I do believe mine will sound a little bit different than most rock. I think that is he's in the world now. He can sing his ass off. Obviously, we know that. Let's kid. He can go on and on. He can explain every match. Yeah, he's been doing it at a long time, you know, he grew up in Nashville. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. He certainly did. All right. Die Reaver Polarizing Figure will be available soon. I might put out something on X, you know, for people to guess the song orders. Maybe I'll put out the name of the song. I think I saw hardy do this a couple years ago. Yeah. Phone won the contest. There it is. Yeah. I'm going to list off the songs in the proper order. Yeah. Six hour drive on NFL Sunday to start the season. 13 hour drive. Cause he's six hour one way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that it was six hour back NFL Sunday. First week. I mean, just not got a photo, we just got a, we got to remember a good. Yeah. Yeah. We're working on it. It's not helping. I was brunch with the lads. What a day 11 to 1. We're back here tomorrow 11 to 1. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Be cool. It was a good little day. I'm going to do a good job. my guts that have never met me. Well listen to this, they're gonna dissect it, but I hope they will listen to the words, you know. And if they do think that I'm talking to them, I am. - Yeah. - There you go. - Yeah. - Easy with that. - Yep. - Tonight, young bull, old bull, young calf. - Young bull though, Fernando. - Yeah, he is a young bull. - Yeah, he's a young bull. - Look out. - He's already one of those. - If you're a vet of age, and agree to gamble responsibly in Halleckin' Hasselon. - We would love for you to come join us on the Best Sports Book on Earth, Draft Games for our team right tonight. - Yeah, right. Come on, Kurt, go. - Let's go. - I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm really do. - Yeah, we like it in a responsible amount 'cause it is a preseason game. We have no idea what's gonna happen, okay? We all know that. - But boy, I like this one. - Oh yeah. - Oh, a rematch of the national championship tonight is. - Oh, I didn't even think about the Obeck being over there potentially, Dan. - Those are in Beggil. - Jeremiah Love. - Daniel Jeremiah mentioned Houston Texans defense, being the most violent he's ever seen. That's how we thought about Miami, remember? - Yes. - Yeah. - We're watching at Miami defense and we're like, these guys. - Heavy hits. - Yeah. But also, if we get a reference call this tight, I mean, there's a chance all 11 Miami defense players are ejecting. - Yeah. - It was, you remember that AJ? - It was awesome. Their style of play was something to be like, they should show the clips of that defense for years and years that come, hey, you guys want to learn how what playing hard is and physical, here we go and just turn their tape on. - And I think like, that's what Daniel Jeremiah was saying about the Texans defense. It's like, that carries over in the preseason. You know, the backups are all trying to do the same thing. - Right. - I suppose there's gonna be some violence tonight if I had to guess. - I didn't come up with DJ, but apparently, Mesador is dominating Chargers camp, not a shocking there. - Dude, Miami might, I mean, Cristobal, I think people are gonna start being like, okay, if Cristobal likes it, if it comes out of that place, we assume that they're gonna be good. A lot of dogs, dogs only coming out of there. - Yeah, I think-- - Bane Rex Shop, yesterday against the Jets, too. - Yeah, I, yeah. So let's assume Miami folks forever are about to be back, back, you know, with the culture that they have. You know, so Gumpy, you're only seeing highlights in your outgrow, you're not seeing any of your little lights. - It's been doing it in a train camp, too. I mean, he's got never stopped. He got big motor. - I saw AD Mitchell have like five touchdowns yesterday, too. - Yeah, we're crazy. - Okay. - Everybody relax. We don't need anyone. - Just team periods? - Yeah. - Yeah, team. - We haven't seen many great, have you seen any of the grading of when they do the one-on-one pass rush? Like, usually we get grades on that stuff. I haven't seen this much this year. - No, we've only seen the water-severed DBs. - It died down a bit. - It kind of stayed away. PFF has stayed away from the one-on-ones down in the trenches. Just because the amount of people that come out and be like, that would never be an actual sack. Guards helping, they're passing that off right there. What are we talking? It's always the offensive line in bitching about the one-on-one and how unfair it is. You know, that's kind of the whole game of this. Just like DBs are like, okay, that's not real. Are we gonna have 14 seconds for this entire drill? There's always those kind of discussions. That's why I'm excited, games are back. - There we go. - Let's enjoy the hell out of it. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We're back for brunch tomorrow. You all are the greatest people on earth. Be a friend to our friends. Have a nice, my change of life. We're gonna sing together. Thank all of you for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me. Team on three. For the good of sport, baby. Always and always. We love you. See you tomorrow after the album's out. - Yeah, definitely. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. - Yeah. - Yeah. - One, two, three, team. - Good bye.