PMS 2.0 1601 - Let's Go Campin' with Mike Reiss, Lindsey Thiry, Brian Baldinger, Ramona Shelburne, Cam Hazzard aka "Hazzardous Dunks," Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our hundle of boat the draft Kings Dungard Oh on this joint practice Wednesday, August 12th, 2026 this sports program begins now It is the greatest and we got joint practices all around the league We'll be visiting them here in a little bit as we'll feel the beat around these joint training camp practices We'll go to Mike Reese who's been covering the Patriots for a long long Longass, I mean he's been there through three coaches now Oh, yeah multiple different generations. He'll be live at obviously coach Patriots which yesterday started hot for the Patriots But ended sizzling hot for the Indianapolis coach from our understanding then we'll go Lindy theory who's obviously at Cowboys and the Rams Brian Boltinger from Boltinger break He's over there in Kansas City with Ian Rappaport was certainly catch up with him And then we'll chitchat about everything else happening around the NFL which includes an incredible hard knocks episode last night feels like Seattle Seahawks are on a mission to go back to back and it makes a lot of sense with big coach Mike Mack on why they're having success this guy first time talking to the team Predicted what the Seattle Seahawks were gonna become he was one year off now He thought he was gonna happen in the first year of him and being the head coach of in the NFL and of the Seahawks instead of Took him two years to do it He wins a Super Bowl and he's not taking any shit no initial feeds right into a conversation that we were having this week Because I think it goes into a bigger picture of what's called on Max Crosby out there on Las Vegas to talk to tables here at Boston Connor An at-tie Schmidt one of the hammer Cowboys AP tone NFL flag championships good hoodie. Yeah great, right? Yeah, we were at that good time, right? All right, yeah impressive football. Disney NFL holds your bank going into it. Promoting. Yeah, it's fun It's almost like that's what you know Franchise QB would do you know go and go and represent for that type of stuff Especially for big fans of what it could be in the future for things nine-year NFL vet Darrye J. Butler. Yes Debuts the joint practices Obviously heightened intensity. Oh, yeah, obviously heightened scrutiny chance. Get exposed out there is very very real And I think if you're on hard knocks as a chance you can get exposed in a huge way now We saw what the Giants obviously we saw the Giants decide that they weren't gonna You know pursue Sequan Barclay in his free agency They're gonna hang on to Daniel Jones and they're gonna have to find out if he's quarterback Sequan Barclay on hard knocks Basically get shoot out of the Giants building the owner of the Giants says if this guy who says I felt that he goes I'm not gonna be able to sleep at night now We obviously have a lot more respect for him because he saw this entire thing kind of happening right in front of his eyes And they let it take place and then Sequan Barclay becomes the MVP and wins a Super Bowl with them So the hard knocks has exposed people in the past what I think it's exposing us to is this McDonald's coach This guy's unbelievable and when we were talking about Max Crosby hitting a quarterback listen to this guy third year as a head coach Okay, for the Seattle Seahawks has already built his culture has already won a Super Bowl He's a defensive guy. Here's him talking to one of his guys Derek Derek Derek. What are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you bull rushing right now near the quarterback? I'm not trying. I can't see behind you can't be trying to hump right now. This isn't the time for it In the Derek I'm not really clearly mad get him out get him out get him out get him out get him out Damn oh my God talking back a little bit You can bite all the One you're too close that's twice It's not smart She can go you want but it turns out murder in the Derrick whole by the way kind of publicly Going at the coach. Yeah, man. What am I loud and you heard McDonald immediately inside of some go? Yeah, right you think that's happening starts chirping right back I think you got to have the respect your team to be able to do that But also the offense sees your defensive coordinator and defensive head coach doing that and appreciates it And I think that echoes the sentiment of every single football practice I've ever been at about how cool you get treated Which is why the Raiders news with Kirk cousins and Max Crosby has been so crazy to us But what did you learn from McDonald's Seattle Seahawks? Just culture we always that's always a buzz word and any building and any business and football you hear in the sports You hear the ton of culture at the old iteration of the Seahawks you heard they had great culture with Pete Carroll You know those guys are leading the boom obviously Russ and everything that they built over there So now the Snyder has built it again and just getting a glimpse into that we saw I think a little bit of it last year Even when they had all the helmet stacked up, you know in front of the team meetings like damn That's cool as a former player a lot of us say like that's the that's the hardest part About leaving the game obviously, you know the the planning game and the money and the lifestyle and all those things But just being around your group of guys. I rather is traveling road trips locker room meeting rooms You know just the pranks, you know that all those different things man But just to see their culture we talked about the sledge hammers holding up getting a peek into these individual meeting rooms You see these characters these coaches throughout the day-to-day. So I love everything about it Mike Mac He's a he's kind of a football maniac football junkie. That's all he cares about and his guys, you know kind of be go to that Be the same drone offensive lineman defense alignment Riley taking on other guy can't wait for people to experience this because this is middle training camp Okay, Mason getting after it. This is middle training camp guys are tired better around each other These guys got into it a little bit. I believe in practice beforehand a little bit of a a fist throne But then also a celebration on the other side And they said let's go ahead and handle this once you saw the offense take their guys back in the defense take their guys back Yeah, and you see that team meeting come together around something as simple as four sledge hammers It's like wow those dudes really love being around each other Yeah, it does feel like the Seattle Seahawks are cooking maybe a little back-to-back now Obviously that would be incredible especially with what they already have in their division the Los Angeles Rams are outrageous They've been the topic of discussion for everybody especially because it seems like Aaron Donald's coming back Or the Seahawks going back the back ties Schmidt nobody really talks about him hard knocks happens. We watch it. We go. Oh I really like what this team's doing. Can they win it though? Can Sam Donald win it all? Oh, yeah, I did can this new coach a Defensive guru head coach win a super all they already did not getting anywhere near the amount of respect But that's because Aaron Donald miles care it might be on the same team line. Is that accurate? Yeah without a doubt and I mean you mentioned it usually when you watch hard knocks It's a team who either didn't make the play off the year before and the two people are kind of bullish on and then by like week 4 It's like, okay, we really probably should have maybe taken Or we should have relaxed a little bit on this but it seems completely different with that But I think that that's how they want it you know his personality like they don't give a shit if anyone's talking about them They know how good they are we'll see I mean he answered questions about whether or not he could win a super Sam Donald that's all we talked about leading up to the Super Bowl. Hey can this guy win the big one? They'd win a game in the playoffs. Yeah, but can Sam Donald win the next one for 300 or something like that Exactly came in there like you didn't really have to do anything exactly and then you know Kenneth Walker as the big game in the Super Bowl He went like he didn't win Super Bowl MVP. I feel like he he still isn't certified even after winning a Super Bowl So I assume he's got a chip on his shoulder like yeah, if you're a better on the Seahawks I think you're feeling pretty good where they're at right especially with the news that came out of San Francisco yesterday You know because we were chitchatting with Rappaport yesterday talking about Bosa, you know and how he mentally having to get back over the injury with me And that's kind of where is that then it came out of these week to week Okay, no, this is not good. Do you know Nick Bosa who's returning from a 20s. She was now considered week to week due to 10 and 90s And is surgically repaired knee per head coach Kyle Shanahan shout the R.E. Mirov did did some numbers for you Bob Yeah big time did some numbers for you are I think that thing is an incredible idea. I'm excited to see what that grows into Mm-hmm. There's a lot of people invested in that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, certainly a lot of people invested head of Disney Mm-hmm, head of ABC. Why'd head of ESPN. Why? Head of the United States of America. Why? And me and Gumpy yep, that's right. All time. Okay. Just all time left two kids from every single state territory and I believe Reservation came to compete to try to get better and I think this is an initiative that is going to continue I think this is a big deal in anything that is going to Amplify or encourage the next generation to remain active and competitive. I think that is a huge thing I would be a part of I have given and this is not I mean We certainly have said this publicly because I think it maybe motivates others to do the same I've given over like two million dollars back to my high school two sports to hopefully keep kids from my hometown and Plum active and like into sports and I've been obviously a part of the Play 60 initiative whenever I was in the NFL. I've donated to many things that try to keep the next generation active This seems like something that a lot of people are aligned on making happen Josh tomorrow their head of Disney All of Disney the previous headed Disney just bought the Lakers. Yeah, this is the new head of Disney head of ABC right there One of the heads miss Deb incredible love catching up with her Jimmy Potaro That's a head of ESPN and then right there with his left arm around One particular guy that's gumpy. That's right. Yeah, that is that is gumpy And then obviously it's me and then the amount of students and kids the energy last night was just absurd in there And they're winning life changing money. So you can there's a lot of people upset anytime. Obviously you have The president doing anything especially president Trump Who was very gracious to me and gumpy? I would say in all the Disney people would say the same thing with How it was all set up last night Anytime he's a part of something it's going to be very loud and there's people saying some There's a people say it's really mean stuff. Yeah, yeah, I read a polarizing figure available Friday by brand new album I wrote 15 songs. I learned how to sing for them and it will drive a lot of this and this kind of is what my life is. But the mission of the Patriot Games, I am a firm believer now, I'm not the only one. And I am very excited for what the future is. If we're gonna get an aggro crag with an American Ninja Warrior, with a push-up pull-up contest, with all these things, what the presidential fitness things used to be, but like bigger, bigger. I think this can become something that's magical across the entire country. So I was very lucky and honored to be there, thankful to be there. Yeah, and then this is absurd. Yeah, this is an absurd situation. I am drenched at that moment, obviously. Graded the president as he was coming off of Air Force One, and it was a torrential downpour. You know, I mean, just absolutely torrential downpour, wore blue jeans, normally wear black pants. Sure. Blue jeans get drenched, you know, you see it. Turns out everything was drying, except for like the. Sure, you look like you missed your pants. The crime. There's a lot of that at the end of the night. And I'm stretching sure to be like, no, this is raining from earlier. I don't think you're fully understand. But getting a chance, obviously, do that. Hop in Marine One, okay, which is the helicopter that the president uses with a couple of burros up there flying it, and then getting over there, it's like the attention that this event is gonna get and is gonna continue to get. Gump it out of baby, gump it. I think it's great for the future, and I think it's a very, very, very, very cool thing in concept. So I'm excited for that. I got a three-year-old daughter, a lot of people saying terrible things about her. I got a three-month-old baby boy, a lot of people saying terrible things about him right now because I want to encourage high schoolers to be fitness and active. Just know that we take a lot of pride in the fact that we are big promoters of sport, fitness. You name it, and especially with our partners at Disney, ESPN and ABC with everything they've done for us, I will love to continue to promote kids being active. I will continue to promote sports, and I do appreciate how people feel towards their politics and everything like that. I do respect it, but there are some absurd things when it's like, hey, it's not just me, I mean, we are, we're trying to create something here for a next generation. We're trying to give back from our community in our world, sports and fitness. So it's like, I think at once it settles in, and if this Patriot Games thing goes for 10, 20 years, which I'm hoping happens no matter who's president, I think this will be something that we'll look back on and say this was inevitably good. But I got ideas, I was in there, I had a thousand. I didn't know the thing was happening until then. I met the creator of American Ninja Warrior, was there? - Nice. - Yeah, the creator. - Nice. - That's a big swing and deck. - Huge. - Yeah, biggest something. - He's got like 30 seasons in it, whatever. Shake his hand at the very beginning. Hey, how you doing? Hey, Pat, I'm insert his name. I should have looked it up. Inter name very quickly. And I go, "Oh, very nice to meet you." And then he goes, "I created American Ninja Warrior." And then he had a headset on. And I didn't see him, "Oh, this is American Ninja Warrior." And I said, "Come here." And I said, "Doom." And he said, "I created American Ninja Warrior." - Good for you, man. - Good for you, man. - Good for you, man. Congratulations, but it was so sweet. I mean, it was cool. I think this has a chance Arthur Smith, is that his name? - That's what Google was saying. - Okay, Arthur Smith, I met Arthur Smith last night. I mean, if there was a photo there, it would be a little-- - Also, he's called a boy. - Yeah. - Yeah, wow. - Yeah, that's why he was in Ohio. That's why he had time to be here. - I was at a FedEx tie. I mean, that is, we're not interested. - I got some ideas for that thing too. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What do you got? - I got some ideas. - Like. - Like, it's a draw board, spitball. - Okay. - Yeah, we'll do some drawings. - I just had you kiss a pig. Who can you say? - I'll tell you what. - I'll tell you what, when I was there, I was asking a lot of questions on-- - Great question. - Hey, I was looking around. I was looking around a couple times. Great lads. Kids, great kids. Super positive. Love their energy. I wasn't experienced for them. Like, summer camp. You know what they're getting to do? Like, super athletic. I mean, certainly memories forever. But I was looking around and I was thinking about me. When I was there, age. - And I'm like, well, cooked all of these, all of these people. - And then I started looking around and I'm like, I'm not the only one that currently is thinking the same thing here. So I think that's just thing gross. I think what we need to make sure we let everybody know is, hey, tryouts. - Yeah, there you go. - Right here. - Yeah. - Yeah. Big announcement. Almost like Drew's keys. Could have been. - Sure. - Come to a city. We got a tryouts for this here. Like, that is the idea that I have for it. I'm like, let's do six regionals. Let's go to an arena. Let's set this thing up. Let's tell everybody in the area to come. Let's get the best of the best. Let's go ahead and do this. Let's up this to a million dollars worth of it. That's where my brain immediately goes as I'm watching. I'm like, yes, yes. And then I think about a little young me, you know, being like, how much can I win at this thing? What do I got to do? I got to go run what? And then going down there and just having an opportunity. Because you could tell how pumped they were to be in that. Like, they were very pumped to be there. The kid that run that won it, well, I don't know if I should give it away. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, because they'll be seeing more of it tomorrow. - The kid that won it, the male that won it, and he's being Marines. He needs, we need him expedited to Marines. - See, that might be a problem. Because the kid that won it, we should be saying, like, "Sky's going to be an NFL." - No, no, not with the Ninja Warrior, of course. - Yeah. MLB? MLS? - I'll tell you what, I think this kid could probably do any of those things. But I also think he would actually be able to run through a brick wall or right up over, this kid was a human spider. - Okay. - I mean, watching this kid operate was outrageous. Good jawline, absolutely strapped. There were 15 to 17 or 14 to 17, and there was a 15-year-old finalist taking on the 17-year-old. - Wow. - So that was in the girls division. She was from Michigan, I believe. I believe she was from Michigan. - Probably, yeah. - She had a pretty good, though, right? Yeah. It was awesome. I mean, it was a pretty big celebration of, like, fitness last night, I would say. And then, you know, 'cause the storm's back here in Indianapolis, I almost died on the way, huh? - Yeah. - Tree in road, no lights on road. Hit side of car. - Crazy sea. - Could you imagine if I-- - Pull. - Pull. Try nothing. People would have been so happy on the internet. On that note, the diary of polarizing figure this Friday. It was crazy some of the stuff I was reading about me. - Oh, yeah. - Man. - People felt like real sports fans, too. - Oh, yeah, big time. - You know what I mean? - Mm-hmm. - And they're not watching anymore. - Yeah. - And I wanna let you know, I'm so sorry, 'cause what we are given is the best in the world, sports, sports are the greatest in the world, so hopefully you'll join us again. Now, speaking of sports, joint practices are happening around the NFL. We are so close to actual NFL football that we can smell it. If you take a spoon, go ahead and take it through the sky, eat that you can taste it. - Oh, yeah. - In these eyes, guess what they're seeing all over the internet. - Touchdown. - What? - Intercessions. - What? - Tax. - What? - Trips. - What? - Coaches yelling at players. - What? - Players yelling at coaches. - What? - We're here. - Mm-hmm. - Let's feel the beat a little bit, shall we? - Yeah. - Ladies and gentlemen, up at the Colts, Patriots, joint practice. A man who's been covering the Patriots for ESPN Connor for how long? - I'm gonna say 22 years. - Ladies and gentlemen, my praise. (clapping) - Is that how long it is? - It's been a while. It's been so long, Pat. Look what I brought today. - Boom. - Okay. - My 2009 Patriots media guide. You know what? Did this? - I know what you did that, Mike. - Look at this page. Look at this guy right here. - Boom. - Dude, boom. - Yeah. - Sweet. - I'm gonna see you, Mike. - Hey, you know what? 27 as a rookie, not a number that's immediately gonna get a quarterback to go to that one. - That's not bad, no? - No, not bad. - Top of the second. That's, you're damn near for Trump. Pick it off. - I did some pickings. That's the thing. When you come into training camp, this is a hundred guys. I don't know how much it is now. It's like a hundred guys. You start eyeballing. After a couple of pretzels. That guy might be gone. That guy might be working on ESPN. (laughing) I started eyeballing them. So end up getting 28. - Okay. Let's not talk about who's kind of got their eyes on their number at this point. Let's talk about the teams as a whole. Yesterday from the 101s, from the Patriots social media that we saw, look like A.J. Brown was cooking. Look like the boys were rolling. Then we started seeing reports from Colts fan Logan, who was also up at practice. And he was saying the Colts did very well towards the end, specifically to Minitra. We had Shane stipend on. Shane was super optimistic, which I think he always is. But he thinks he did feel pretty good about how we kind of showed up. Obviously, the Patriots, AFC champs, Super Bowl last year. So that's big news for the Colts. Can you give me some good news for the Colts or kind of what is your takeaway of the joint practices? - Well, absolutely, Pat, first, you talk about smelling the football. Like this was a great atmosphere for it. I'm going to tell you, there must have been eight to 9,000 fans lined up. - What? - Yeah, they opened up the ramps to the stadium that overlook the practice fields. I mean, it was, there was a lot of energy there. And that moment that we're seeing right here, with Cam Bynum, he intercepts Drake May in the two-minute drill. And fans were booing, Pat, it felt like I was at a game in a sense, even though it was just practice. - Okay, so let's talk about it feeling like it's at a game. Obviously that means the Colts showed up. We know the Patriots are going to show up in a big way. How did you feel about both teams? Did it feel like, hey, these might be two of the best teams in the AFC or is there a long road to go here for both? - I'd say more the latter, Pat, in terms of a long road to go. I think both teams probably came out of this feeling like it was a good day. There were no injuries, no big fights. And I think if the goal from a football standpoint is to get better leading into the regular season opener, they both did that. I would say if I had to pick one though, Pat, because I don't want to give you a boring answer. I think the Colts come out of this feeling better because of the way it ended. Two-minute drill. How many games end in a two-minute situation? And you got to either win it or you lose the game. And their first string offense and their first string defense won in that situation. - Yeah, and it's a cardiac Colts, too. So yes, two-minute drill definitely do matter. And Drake May was fantastic. And the Patriots were fantastic. Obviously they make it to the super. last year, so at the end of games, they're able to put things away. First joint practice very early for both parties, but I as a coach fan would like to let you know, thank God you're saying that because those one-on-one reps that were coming out from the early parts of practice, I thought we were zero and 17. We lost last eight games last season, last eight straight. I thought that was gonna continue. I thought we were gonna be worse than the Bronx once they won, completely duffied in the other side after seeing those. And then all of a sudden, Coach Fan Logan starts coming out. And then Saus says, oh, it's funny, that's the only one they put out, huh? That's an interesting one. I'm like, hold the phone now. The boys are buzzing up there with the New England Patriots who are obviously top of the class. Speaking of top of the class, there's one guy that wasn't participating yesterday for you guys, go ahead, D-Bud. - Yeah, all eyes on Christian Gonzalez getting his new deal. What's the latest update with that? And tell me what your thoughts on the secondary as a whole? I know there's a lot of some moving parts back there, but that's a great, I think, strength of this defense. What's going on with Gonzo? And what do you think of that secondary so far through camp? So, Darius, he didn't participate and he had fallen hard in the practice on Monday in an end zone coverage against Romeo dobs. And so it's hard to know if Christian Gonzalez didn't participate because of maybe, you know, landing on his ankle and coming up a little gimpie or the contract. And I'm still trying to get more information as to why Gonzo was an out there. Up to this point, I will tell you, the fact that he has been a full participant and in my view, they're best player throughout training camp. If it was the contract, why he wasn't out there, that would be a sharp change in direction for him in terms of approach this training camp. - Yeah, 'cause we've heard about him and AJ Brown battle. - Oh, yeah. - Day in, day out, that's gotta make him all better. Now, let's talk about the wide receivers. Go ahead, Con, man. - Yeah, Riso, it seems like one of the stars early on in camp has been K-Sean Booty. And I don't know if it's cooled off a little bit, but haven't seen him as much. Everyone kind of assumed he was getting traded or at some point getting moved, but because of how well he's played, is there a chance Booty plays the last year his contract and then moves on? Do you expect him to be kind of a trade deadline guy that might get moved? What's the situation with Booty right now? - Conner, they got seven receivers that could be on this roster, which is probably one or two more than most teams would keep. Talk to some people, I do inside the Patriots and they tell me Booty's gonna be a big part of what we do. I think where that could become a little bit of a challenge is if another team does come calling and is willing to give them something of significance, you still got AJ Brown, Romeo Dobbs, Pop Douglas, Matt Collins, Kyle Williams, Eston Chisholm III, they're all making plays throughout training camp so it's a very crowded receiver-room and Conner. As a long time Patriots fan, when was the last time? We could say the receiver-room had too many receivers. I've never seen anything like this. Maybe outside of 2007. - Oh, thank God. - As we can say, I don't know if you heard him say that. I like that you guys are speaking the same language here about this particular Patriots team. And I like that you said that everybody I talked to in a Patriots says, "Kashon Booty's a big part of what we got going on." Now that could change unless another team says, "Hey, hey, he could be a part of what we got going on to." And we say, "Yeah, you're right, he could go to your place." It's funny how football works that way. You know, if only we love him, yeah? Do you love him enough for like a third-rounder? - Second-rounder? - Well, how much do you love him? We see highlights coming from everybody, and let's not even forget about Hunter Hunter, are you just fucking paid in? - Yeah, do you like it? - Rocky Titan, do you like Reden? - Actually, you know what, fourth-rounder. Now that we're talking about all the weapons that you have up there, how much do you love him? Let's find it out. There's a chance that that's gonna happen on any team, but certainly a deep position, especially with injuries that take place across the board speaking of injuries. It felt like Wil Campbell had won last year and then it changed everything. - Go ahead, Tom. - Yeah, Mike, as we're talking about the Patriots, there's no questions about any skill position or the defense, I feel like, just from a national perspective, the one question that the national people still have is the offensive line, 'cause the last thing we saw was the Super Bowl, how do the Patriots feel about the offensive line in the additions that they made in the offseason, including the draft? - Well, I believe that's gonna be the key for the offense, and Wil Campbell does look like a different player. I would say this training camp, especially, he got injured late November last year, his knee, and when he came back, they felt like he couldn't sort of anchor, and he'd lost some strength, and he looks better. I will say this, and Pat, this goes to your Colts. That Grover's Stewart, that Grover's Stewart, whoa. I mean, he might have been the best player on the field yesterday. - He's the most beloved, we saw him at the Hall of Fame. It was great to see him. It is hard not to smile as soon as you see Grove. I like hearing he was the best player on the field. He makes wings in his sink, okay? Grove has the lads over. He is-- - Smacked up, too. - Yeah, we love him. - Good, good, marked up. - Yeah, we love Grover. I like hearing that he's playing great, because I thought there was gonna be a time, potentially, where they were gonna keep him around strictly for vibes. You know, 'cause how much they love him, especially at that position with how big he is. I love hearing he's playing better than ever. I like that, Reese, thank you for the shout-out to one of our favorites. - That's right, and just going back on that offensive line, I think the Patriots feel like if they can keep the top five healthy, which is hard to do, they'll be okay, where it might be a little tricky as the depth piece for them in the offensive line, and probably a lot of teams would be in the same boat. - Was that the Colts there that posted that Grover's group? - Yeah. - Okay. - There it is. - Okay. Shout-out Colts social on it, doing battles, okay? - Thank you. - With the go to the program, for the go to the franchise, for the go to the organization on the internet. We need faces out there. We need at least a little defense right now, too. If anybody would like to go after some people, they're going after me, I would like to give you a full gun. Okay, we do need defense out there at some point. You know, some terrible things being said. Grover's doing some man. I'm happy he's playing well. I hope more people get to learn about him, too. I hope he does have like a breakout type of year. Now, him and the forest buckner, a problem. - Need him. - I mean, that is a real problem if we can get that going, and I like to hear we're having some success up there against New England, New England's a damn good football. - Kings of the AFC right now. - Yeah. - No, no, new year. Brand new year. - Yeah, everybody's at the ball. - Brand new year, everybody's at the ball. - Everybody's at the bottom of the agro crack. remaining defending is typically how they acknowledge it. So we are the reigning defending champions of the end. I mean, Paul Heman would definitely say that. Yeah. So if there was a crown, the crown would be in New England right now until further notice. No, but we all got to crown. Remember, uh, Eddie Lushard's and Clareback points. Yeah, sure. In gambling, of course, I'm talking about NFL football gentlemen. You're a pastry fan. You know that, that definition. Yeah, the crown's not with you guys. Crowns, crowns of Seattle was on hard grounds. I'm aware I acknowledge the fact that you only hang championship banners in New England. However, when that and being in the end, of course, they do it differently here, but remember when when you are Chicago, yeah, yeah, which was very cool. Uh, when you after the year after you go to the Super Bowl until a different team goes from the AFC, the reigning defending champions of the AFC is New England Patriots until the AFC championship. Yeah, but I mean, if you're going to go full context like that, I need to hear more. Sure. They both next got hurt. Yeah. That's why they have that. They have that crown in Denver. I don't have that one. It was hurt for the game. What about the votes? We want 11 weeks. We got that crown. Right? They have the Dan Jones towards Achilles and then the entire team fall part crown. And broke his leg, please. Yeah. Sorry. And broke his leg also a part of it. Josh Allen in the bills. They have the same crown they always have. If the rules were different, we would have won. Oh, geez. All right. Enough things like that. Let's talk about chasing crowns. We'll talk about vibes after not getting the crown last year, but getting also close ahead of schedule. Go ahead. Ty, last question for you, Mr. East. Yeah, Mike, after what was a very tumultuous offseason, where would you say the vibes are at right now with the team as a whole, obviously, not a lot of new faces in there and the expectations are very high. But does it seem like the offseason is kind of completely in the past now and all the focuses on football or is there kind of some maybe lingering things from that tumultuous offseason? I think it feels like it's moved past that and I would say a key date for me was early June. I felt like when they acquired AJ Brown in that trade, I felt as a reporter being at some of these practices in the spring going into training camp that the energy around the team shifted. I feel like AJ's arrival added like a shot of energy that they needed because they were, they had all these things going on throughout the offseason and I felt like since that point, it's sort of taken off a little bit. I love to hear it. And obviously bunker mentality can certainly set in, especially when you're that close and you have Drake Major quarterback. What a stud. We appreciate the hell out of your service to ball and the Patriots. How many years 2007? So, well, I actually started in 1997, Pat, but I had to bring the 2009 media guide for my guide, Darius. I was there when he was coming in as a rookie. Love you, Mike. Appreciate it. 29 years over all pic hell. Yeah. Never forget it. Well, pic was I in that draft, race. Uh oh. I don't have the tag. You would have been number one. That's Matt. He's raining. Yeah. I don't know 222 from the Colts. Sorry about that. Rainy MVP. Still. Yeah. We're 222 parts. Same draft. That could be an I still doing it. Take it in that. Seriously, this is one of those years where like you just have to enjoy watching Stafford and Rodgers, because who knows? Not that, you know, Stafford's on his last year, but it is one of those things. Those are kind of the, it's the end of an era. Like it felt like that when Philip River. Yeah, it's year to year. Like when Philip River was just playing how cool is it last year to be like, Holy shit. We're watching Philip River's play football again. Yeah, it was like a movie. Yeah, it was like I was a movie. I throw back Thursday, you know, the top Philip River's on the Indianapolis Colts to take on the future Super Bowl champion in Seattle, by the way, almost everything that could take group. It's what a city. it's a 60 yarder, it's a 60 yarder in Seattle to win that game and then turns out, no, it wasn't, it was not to win that game. The Seattle Seahawks, obviously, the Kings of the Castle, but the story of the offseason has been in the Los Angeles Rams. But not just the Rams, it's obviously sports media, so Dallas Cavalier turns out, they're actually a joint practice together. Wow. Joining us now is somebody that covered one team, now covers the other team, ladies and gentlemen, ESPN NFL reporter, Lindsey Thierry. Yeah. Man, see, that's the difference right there. Yeah, that's the difference right there. That's Southern California. Obviously, it looks amazing. Where are you right now, Lindsey? Yeah, I've been had beaches drop a little man off at Beach Camp. So, here we are. It's going to a lecture-size-in and joining you guys, things are having me. No problem, Lindsey, what is Beach Camp? We're learning how to surf, we're learning how to build sandcastles, we're learning how to get the sand out of our shoes. What, what is Beach Camp? Yeah, yeah, currently they're stretching, getting ready to go in the water. I think they're like learning how to boogie board. We've heard all about sharks and minnoes, apparently. Now, seaweed in the sharks and minnoes, that's a new update from when I was within 30 years, 40 years ago. Seaweeds, lazy ones, what is, what is, see, this is what we need these things for. Yeah, it's like, he explained the seaweed to be like your stuck and then you start to reach your arms out one way or the other to get the kids. So, I thought the minnoes were the lazy ones, because everyone's going to eat by the sharks, but there's a lot of levels of it now. Yeah, so I like the things are evolving. Let's not be giving people outs, you know, to not knew. I don't like that, that's kind of a big initiative. Okay, let's chitchat about, I mean, it's going to be hard not to just take a mental vacate. Can you, can you just show us that beach real quick? Can you just show us full screen on a beach so we can kind of just. Oh my God, look at the waves. Yeah, because the beach can't take his, all right. The place is packed. We just had tornadoes from Indiana. Yeah, we just had tornado. I mean, I want to see the sun. That was a nice little mental vacate. He's a little momentous then. Nobody talks about us providing that. Thank you, Lindsay. Okay, let's talk about the joint practice between the Cowboys and the Rams. Story is Aaron Donnelly. He's playing for the Rams. Yes, and then Aaron Donnell and Miles Garrett are going to be on the same defensive line. And now the Rams are just going to be the Avengers for the next year or two. It would be with the ups and the century at this point, if Aaron Donnell doesn't come back to the base had yesterday. No news on that. I didn't see Lesley walking by. I started kind of shouting out of it. We're getting ready for a live shot. Like thumbs up Les. And Les was like grinning from the ear to ear. I mean, nobody around there has a poker face. Don sends trending up. There he is. Aaron, obviously, Dwayne Brown is his great coach or a speed coach from Pittsburgh. He's out here two tenths there. You see on Instagram. And that's the same Aaron was doing back when he was obviously not retired. And there he is looking fast as ever and freakish as ever. So we were kind of winning around. There's a thought maybe early next week. We'll have a definitive answer on whether or not Aaron's officially going to come up. Okay, so the thought is he won't be traveling to Australia at this point because we didn't know if he was going to kind of slow roll it. Maybe skip the two 17 hour flights. Maybe start week two. Yeah, I mean, I thought this is just me singing like Aaron Donald, maybe come back after this. But we talk about training camp with Sean talking about training camp. Like if he's coming back, then he's going to be Aaron Donald for week one. I can't see him sitting out. We don't want to make a play. Oh, geez. Okay, so Aaron Donald's going to be next to MVP can live, but maybe not go ahead time. Yeah, Lindsey, Miles Garrett, I think has missed six practices. Maybe so far in training camp. And John McVey said that he was at 85% so maybe no, you know, cause for concern. But what is the deal with this? Are they kind of just slow playing this because they know he's unbelievable and he's going to be ready to go week one. What is the outlook on Miles Garrett? Yeah, the ramp. They've always had especially their star players is to be sure that those guys are healthy. Sean McVey is not here to really training camp win reasons and games. I'm obviously talking to Matthew Stafford last year and his back, right? Remember that and then we didn't hear about Stafford back in the rest of the season. My own Garrett, 85% we told Sean McVey is how we need to be willing because of swelling. I think it was five practices would have made yesterday that he missed. But right now they really don't seem concerned other than there's no point in running mild gear out there. Now they know what you can do. He knows how to play in this defense. So they don't need him to be a preseason hero training camp hero. It would have been really nice to see you know him go against Dak Prescott and see what he brought yesterday. Yeah, I think Dak Prescott's probably pretty pumped about that. Miles Garrett is just so we I was in the Cleveland area last night. Mutant, you know, and you're just chitchatting about the thought that he is now a Los Angeles Ram. He I thought he was going to be Joe Thomas up there in Cleveland after every 40 million got paid 40 million per year after that letter came out. I think I just assumed that he was going to be a Cleveland Brown forever and it was always going to be a what if what if what if what if. Now we get a chance to see him like on a contender with a lead scary ours. It is. It really is. And he got paid to right. So I mean he gets everything that he was going to be able to get a Cleveland. But then he also gets an opportunity to have Aaron Donnell eat up a couple people while also having a lead probably with at least the top five offense in the other side with McVey and Stafford. This is an outrageous situation. Obviously Aaron Donnell's big conversation piece. But Miles Garrett going over there is still just absolutely absurd and McDuffee on the back. Pingo. Yeah, I try McDuffee that having him is huge to just recovered. Yeah, it's ridiculous what they did on defense aside with the reigning MVP on the other side. Okay, let's continue a chitchat about these joint practices. Go ahead, Khan man. Yeah, speaking of joint practices yesterday. I saw a couple reports that the Cowboys defense was the winners of the entire day. I think going into it everyone probably would have guessed like a Cowboys offense Rams offense one of those two. But the Cowboys defense seemingly won the day. How was their D how was the Caleb Downs scenario? We've seen a lot of him in you know solo practices, but how has his impact been for the Cowboys? And is that going to be a strength for their team this year? Yeah, you know what Caleb Downs just said I spent special attention to that last week last week. You know, if you didn't really last, you don't notice anything to be doing the joint practice. There are other quarterbacks for on bland, Vaughan, Rebel. Those guys were blasting out there against Pica and Devon. They breaking up some longer plastic and Rams really weren't able to get any explosive going out there. He was putting William Washington straight off that huge extent in such a tone early. He had a run stop went up flex his muscles had a couple tackles for a lock down there. So the defense obviously was going to have to appear better than it did a year ago. The defense was terrible and joint practice a year ago. They bring in Christopher Parker. So that group is noticeably taken step forward. It'll be really interesting to see by the time they get going exactly where they're going to be at. You can really move on the defense aside. You can be shite and then get really good quickly. Hembo says, look at the 2021 to 2022 Jets, they won from last to fourth, the 2019 dolphins, 30 second, 2026. Texans obviously we've seen what they've become as an absolute juggernaut. So Hembo says it is possible to get very, very good, very, very quick pieces. Yeah, they paid Quinn and Williams and Jerry Jones said we got some adults in the room now. We got some adults over here. Clark, thank you. Shotty, I'm going to let it be known, shotty put on a great performance at the league meetings. I would say, I think that would certainly be an upside to that. How about his players running the sprints after practice? That was not me telling them to do this, this was the players wanting to do this. With the Rams, you know, who have been talked about as being the team that's going to win all the odds on favorite to win it all, they're going to end down here and then the Cowboys are in the back with what, their hard hat and their lunchpale running extra sprints. What did that tell you, Lindsey? I felt like a big deal. That actually felt like a pretty big storyline, especially shotty coming out saying that was on them deciding to do that. Now, Cowboys players know everybody's going to talk about this if they do it, so I respect that as well, but that's a big time decision, I think, from a team that I would not expect that from. So, the juxtaposition of the whole thing was pretty hilarious. Like the Rams, you know, Sean McVase, like the absolute players coach, he's hard on his eyes, but, you know, we really tell them what he's taught you in a few long days, you know, fraction, all the things. Let me see that. And then just see the old school mentality. Like we just had a hard practice. A hard job. Like, let's go run. I know Jack was kind of chuckling about it afterward. That there was some trash going on with those guys afterwards and Cowboys, and they're coming out to feel like we'll see you guys later in December in your room, in the condition ones. So, that was really interesting to see you on playing two very different methods of how to end the practice. All right, Lindsey. We appreciate you so much. Have a good one. We'll continue to follow along. Tell everybody a beach camp to stay safe out there. Yeah, bingo. And we need more sharks a man. It's not seaweed. We need people moving out there. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Lindsey Terry. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Lindsey. A lot of cheddar cheddar obviously there. That's a sports media dream right there. Oh, yeah. It is. Big time. Cowboys, Rams, joint practice. Oh, man. Shit. How many Jerry Jones press conferences can we get? Well, he doesn't want to do as many as year before. What? Somebody tell him. All right. He'll do it one every day. Yeah. The dream is after practice, you'll never go to a beach. Yeah. Yeah. That's like what the Florida Panthers were kind of selling all the hockey out there. Yeah. They're like, hey, listen. Yeah, playing in Canada is really cool. Playing in these cold states. Awesome. Hockey places. Certainly we get that. We want you to do one day in our life real quick. Like you know, let's go get after it. Yeah. We're going to go play some golf. They've got 45 golf courses here. You want to go hang out on the beach? No problem. Go home. Guess what? You just see your family. You know what? Yeah. And then we'll maybe do a late night session. Right. Go ahead. We'll be following you to it again. It's like they're doing college stuff. Oh, yeah. Beach with their families. That is quite an advantage, I think. Yeah. Like LA always has had that. Now, I don't think LA right now is where everybody is flocking to, just in society. But on that note, with players and athletes and everything, still very much a place that people want to get to. And then for the Panthers, they still show up. when ice in there, you know, because a lot of times you get that type of lifestyle you saw up soft, but like the panthers, the heat and how the dolphins just got to get that shit together. - Well, I don't know if the dolphins will, but I like half of the Rams though, physical team. - Oh yeah. - Dominant team. I like what's going on. Puka, we should've asked, he's out of growing I guess? - Yeah, they said they've been very cautious with that. They didn't think it was anything serious. - Growing, if you let it get all the way back to 100, good. If you push it when it's not 100 forever, it'll be there forever, actually. The growing is just like so annoying because the amount of things that the growing is a part of. You don't realize until there's a little bit of a tweak, it's like, oh, I use this for literally everything that I do. It's like, yeah, I can't even take a poop with that you're growing and getting that in there. But if you, if you let it get all the way back to 100 for my understanding, clear sailing. But if it's like 90 or 80. - It's hard to tell if it's 100 or not. - Yeah, but you can keep that thing, yeah, true, 'cause it does kind of disguise itself. So then being safe and smart with this is a good idea. Now we're not doctors. - No, sometimes sounds like they're kind of just saying, hey, you know, our season starts week 11. - Miles Garrett, yeah, he's not a proxy. Aaron Donald, yeah, cool, just workout over there. Puka, you feel something? - Yeah. - All right, sounds good. She's saying, McVeigh just wants to get the boys to first game. - Yeah. - Sounds very obvious that that is, wasn't it? - They've gotta be careful. - A lot of coaches we've talked to, that's, let's just get to the season, okay? - First couple of weeks, so you can get exposed and set yourself behind. - Yeah, and we're talking about Seattle. Like, we started this whole entire thing, we're talking about how good Seattle is and they're running defending Super Bowl champions. Like, if you lose a couple of those and then we see what happened last year, the last week was for the number one seed. Like, that might come and bite him in the ass again, but then again, still. - What are the stats? What are the stats on teams that went into Super Bowl? They're good early. - Yeah. - Good early, good late. - The stats say, like, yes, teams have gotten hot late and made it into playoffs. Congratulations. Stats say you can start like 0 and 2, 0 and 3, 0 and 4 and still somehow make it, but it's very rare. The teams that end up winning, yeah, from the beginning. - Very few six seeds have ever done it. - Yeah, we're a good, we're a go-to football team early and then guess what, we become a great football team around Thanksgiving and then we just get hot into the playoffs and we stay healthier than everybody else, which is-- - That's the huge thing. - Which is what McVeigh said. McVeigh said, you see these guys we got, if we just get to a game, we are gonna be able to show up. - I'm worried about them not conditioning at the practice. - Yeah, man, 'cause I've been asked different, there's some fourth quarter difference. - Too much time at the beach. - How do you feel about the Cowboys players doing that? - I mean, I like-- - Joint practice in front of cameras, knowing it's gonna be a conversation, players decision and I think Shoddy brought something about them understanding what conditioning is gonna mean for this team this year. So, this might be a part of their team mantra. - It's the culture, just like we're talking about with the Seahawks, and you know what, better than anybody. It comes from self-policing the leadership within the locker room 'cause the coaches can tell you anything and look, in New England, that was my first experience in NFL, we conditioned after every training camp practice. As a team, we never knew what that condition was gonna be. Build, just get out there and stand, either 40 or 50 or whatever. He'd be standing there, blow the whistle. There would be times where the strength coach would be like, you know, kind of, you could tell he was looking at my ass. That's enough. This is before the catapult's in the sports bar, where everything's tracking everything and like, build, and then, but you did feel, you know, come week six, come week seven, you felt that fourth quarter difference. When you're in the fourth quarter, and you're looking across from a guy, you can tell like, he's gas, like, that's, you start losing fundamentals, you start losing everything. So now, it does start building here, you build that foundation, and then you go on obviously, everything else matters, but the condition is huge. Because once the season comes, you know, now you gotta get to the game. You're waking up sore all week, training camp is when you kind of build that foundation. Now, it's for yourself and for your team. - You bring it up to Patriots and Bill Belichick, reminds me of the do your job documentary, whenever you guys had a conditioning period, and it was the hill or whatever. - Yeah. - And he was like, "Bank, you're banking this for later." You're banking this for later. I'm like, "Man, that's a good mint." I should have had that. Nobody ever phrased it like that to me. And I've hated conditioning my whole play soccer, a lot of soccer. So conditioning was always like, all right, about the puke here, and I was always bigger, you know? And I have potentially been, you know, inhaling air with some smoke in it for a while, you know? So conditioning was always problematic. Him phrasing it just as easy as like, "You're banking this for later." It's like, "Cool, that's a good mindset." That's a positive phrasing as opposed to, "I want to see you die out here." - You know, that's a little different. - Like college. - Yeah, college, man. I didn't think I was touching my knees. I think I was still touching the middle of my thigh. I think I was on my thighs. - Grab the scribe of the shoe. - Yeah, I think I had a good play here. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. - Can't spend disproven. - Yeah, air, actually, it's good down there, or, yeah, it turns out. - No, it's not. - Yeah, it is. - Oh, they know air down there, get up. - Yeah, there is air down there, turns out. - Hands above your heads, open up their arms. - Yeah, boom. - McAfee. - Yeah, and I think that's what I said, actually. Get your hands off your knees. They're not. Thank you. There's no air down there anyways, asshole. I'm, yeah. Then why is my whole body wanna do this? All right, 10 more. Fuck. Thank you. Never, never had your bankiness for later mentality. And that's why Bella checks the best. - Do you want those guys that wanted to know exactly what condition? - Yes, afternoon run. - You guys are no worse. - I'm going afternoon run. - Afternoon? - I'm going right in the middle of the day. - I got me first, I got you first. - Give me 105 degrees, I wanna know exactly what we're doing. - No. - Yeah, I don't want to know anything. - No, I'll shut it down. - Let's go, put me through and get through it. Don't know that, excuse me, that you're an afternoon. - No, no, no, no. I am counting down. - No, that's worse. - I had to do a couple of the morning ones for whatever reason something was happening in the afternoon. And I remember just thinking like, how stupid everybody was. Just what, do you do this every time? This is what I would say to you. - Oh yeah. - You do this every time? How many of these do we got? - What? - How am I? - Shut up, get along. - That's exactly what it is. And then obviously you ask the question, you get mocked and ridiculed. It's like 7AM about the problem at all over the place. I'd just like to know how much I need to not die for these first couple. Joining us now is a man who has been absolutely crushing it on the internet with the Baldi's breakdowns, making us all much better. - He did early workouts, sure. - Baldi. - No, he wanted to know. I think he wanted-- - He wanted to know. - Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. 11-year NFL vet currently at the Chiefs Training Camp, alongside Ian Rappeport, ladies and gentlemen, Brian Bowler. - Hey, hey, fat, it's good to have this maiden voyage with you here today after a sweat party out here in St., wherever we are in the middle of the dirties. (laughing) - St. Joseph's Missouri. - Okay. - It was as humid as it was hot out here today. And so, I, anybody thanked me for bringing the humidity and they got a good two and a half hour work in today. - Okay, we're talking about conditioning right now with the Dallas Cowboys' players, choosing to run extra sprints after the joint practice with the Los Angeles Rams yesterday. That led us to a college conditioning conversation, I believe you want to do a huge brain. We don't know what the summer conditioning was. Did you want to know what the conditioning was or did you go and blind? - I hated the uncertainty, Pat. We conditioned, when I was with the Cowboys and Tom Lambsley as our coach, we conditioned after every practice. But we knew what it was. So, 8-1-10s, 8, you know, and I could still have nightmares at night, you know, because if you were last, you ran more, you know. So, you don't want to be last. And you don't want to jump all sides in a team drill. Otherwise, you were running out of practice. I wanted to know what the conditioning was. And then mentally, I could prepare for it. - Yeah, I think that's how 99.9999% of people that go through those workouts feel. D-butch is a stunt. I don't care. It's what D-butch is. I don't care, I'll do it. - Okay, let's talk about the chiefs practice that you're at right there. Patrick Mahomes, obviously, back ahead of schedule, looks incredibly healthy. Travis Kelsey looks fast. How do we kind of feel about the old studs of the Kansas City Chiefs, the old firm, if you will? - Honestly, Pat, if you didn't know that Patrick Mahomes had his knee reconstruction, you would never know it. He took every first team drill, like, he took so many snaps out there today. And he looks like Patrick Mahomes. He's hopping like that. The arm is still the arm. He can hit you from anywhere on the field at a number of deep shots to Travis today. Like, he looked awesome. When he had to scramble in a certain drill, he scrambled, he eluded players, but he was accurate. It was like T-ball out here, Pat. He was just putting the ball right where it needed to be. Time after time, Kenneth Walker looks like he's gonna be a big addition out of the backfield. But, Travis, I talked to him after practice. There was more than just the wedding, this offseason. There was a conditioning level to him. There was a training program. And he said, like, really, into his 14th year here, he loves training camp. He loves coming here, isolating, doing nothing but ball, being around his teammates. And he looks like he's having a good camp right now. - Yeah, we're seeing a lot of highlights. It feels like he is trying to look more explosive every rep. You know, I feel like he has been questioned by a lot of people saying his tooth is maybe the longest in the NFL. A lot of people saying that type of stuff about him. And I know that he hears it. I think he appreciates it. And I think he utilizes it as motivation. And also he has the biggest star in the world he's married to, who works or asks off and does what three hours shows. So, I assume they have some sort of gym at the place. - Safe to assume. - They make probably a full training facility. - Probably a couple gyms. - I think about all the stages that she probably has in different barns. He's probably spurtin' up in down stages. Carrying fake, Taylor Swift's up in down. I couldn't even imagine how in shape this guy is after watching what that wedding was. The attention to detail to that wedding. If it's what the house and the gym and the workouts, Travis might play for another 10 years this time. I'm excited for the chiefs. We all are excited for the chiefs. And are the chiefs still the chiefs? Is the chiefs still the chiefs? Is obviously the question. Go ahead, Con, man. - Yeah, Baldi, to that point, how has the rest of the team looked? I know a lot of people are talking about Rashee Rice and kind of pulling clips of him not looking great. Kelsey and my homes, they're gonna show up. But offensive lines been an issue. People are worried about the receiver. room defense as a whole what is kind of your expectation should we assume a chiefs are gonna be back in the aFC championship maybe super bowlers are gonna be a little bit of growing pains here I think the offense line has chance to be very good Josh Sim is going through all the training camp at left tackle he looks healthy he looks focused his agent Drew Rosenhouse was here today this Khalil Benson that came from the national champions at Indiana he's competing at right guard right tackle right now trace Smith back in there just talked to Creed Humphrey like I think this line has a chance to be very good the running back room is completely new you know with with Kenneth Walker three sticks and Emma Johnson the rookie at Nebraska and Demar Carrie from Arizona it's a rebuilt running back room and I think they want to get that running game be something to be proud of I think as long as you have my homes and Andy Reed joined at the hip and how they see the game how they build game plans together I have the feeling that they could get back to real prominence on the offense the side of the ball I hope so I can't wait to watch it whenever they had a great run game obviously they won all the way to the Super Bowl want it patch my homes wasn't asked to do much now great and we all believe that patch my homes is the young goat we all have respect for him this the first time he's had a lot of people overlooking him and questioning him coming into a season we're excited to see how he returns he was running people over last year hopefully he's got that out of his system he keeps rolling but that it's hard right now in the aFC it is hard to see right now and that's why obviously the windows when you're open you got to take advantage speaking of a bunch of windows go head home yeah body we're looking at the a mc north and obviously the lines and packers as far as odds are at the top there I know you've been to both those camps not sure if you've been to Chicago or Minnesota yet what are your thoughts on the north as a whole and specifically those camps that you've been to how are the vibes there well I saw the division winner from a year ago the Chicago Bears at Hall of Hall and they went through a two and a half hour scrimmage and I've been John's just the definition of AI he's just a machine and the offense looks very very good Caleb look awesome like I think just watching him interact with new guys like Khalif Raymond who's a speed demon you know just interacting with the guys like he's he's in a leadership role they have some work to do on defense right now they lost Kevin Byard who led to league and interceptions they lost nation right they lost your Juan Briskard and Kobe Bryant who they picked up from Seattle they were counting on he looks like he's gonna miss a big chunk of the season so they've got some questions on defense in Green Bay Jordan love look tremendous and Matt LaFlore is coaching this team the right way he's not happy he's one of those coaches that looks like he's ticked off every day in training camp you know like something just and he's just taken it out he he doesn't like players sitting on the sideline looking too comfortable you know and so I feel like you know they have a chance rebuilding their offense line to be very good we we had Michael Parsons crash our set the other day with Stacey Dales and he's telling us that the target date is the sixth game of the season on Sunday night against the Cowboys oh yeah and if they get him back on the sixth game of the season with Jonathan Ganon coaching that side of the ball they could be a real real player and then Detroit I was there the other day and Tamir Gibbs and Aman Ra and it was great they just lost their center and they were really counting on the center because they really honestly Pat they hadn't really recovered from the the retirement of Frank Ragnar they struggled last year at that position they thought they upgraded it with Cade Maze and now they got to find a suitable replacement in the middle of that offense line so they have a little bit of a question mark there but the talent Jamison Williams Aman Ra St Browns the mere Gibbs you know the tight ends are all back healthy they could be a very good offense yeah can the defense stop anybody I hope so Foxy who's the center that you guys just picked up or or putting in there for some reps he played for Ohio State and Alabama yeah that's it yeah he's good player he's big too now all accounts sounds like it's a great player and in Alabama he had a little a situation with the Yips and I think he just wanted somewhere new goes Ohio State becomes captain becomes the entire thing like I think he's a stunt I mean obviously this is a it happens in the NFL in a regular basis is not a great way to get your first thing you know guy other guy supposed to get a guitar but he could potentially be the next Frank Ragnar who remember body they literally did they roll him in or did they put him in a bag I don't remember you might have been a bag they put him in a bag Frank Ragnar last year put him in a bag walked him back into the building oh yeah he's playing the table for Thanksgiving you know I mean look this is this is not cliche Pat but if your center isn't strong your offense line's not gonna be good a great you know we just talked to the league's best and Creed Humphrey right here like the center of that line for Patrick Mahomes is is stout it's strong and when they lost Ragnar they they played a bunch of guys in here they weren't very good should me or Gibb still random ball because he's a home run hitter but I feel like if they want to win the line of scrimmage with Penaisu all going over to the left tackle right now they've got to be good up front and Jerry got to guys not gonna run away from anybody he wants to beat you from that postage stamp behind the center they need to get that thing firmed up right now okay I appreciate how much respect you have for the offense line those bouldies break down I didn't even worked up bro you can be jacked up in there whenever you're breaking pretty technologically advanced to the way you're sad with it all well not just that pat like I'm gonna do punters this year on your behalf because I see legs the the punters left everybody six five now Pat yeah they're all tall they all got these long levers and there's these spirals that are coming off these feet watching these special team drills right now like are we gonna get to the stage where we're literally outkicking our coverage like the Gunners can't get down just body body if you're gonna do breakdowns on punters you need no first things first that's all a lie you can't outkicking good coverage you can only outkicking shit coverage yeah if you have shitty coverage you can outkicking but if you have good coverage there's no outkicking it you're trying to flip a field so I do appreciate people that aren't punters go I outkicked this coverage is like well you just gave an excuse to fucking nine guys there okay so let's blame the punter let's not do that because as somebody who has certainly outkicked his coverage right multiple different times it's like there's a couple times where I've hit a low line or two and then somebody just makes a big play for us and it's like hey you just flip the field 58 yards it's like yeah but there's a chance that thing is a touchdown so if you're gonna break up down let's make sure we're on the punters side here okay buddy we don't need more punters shit listen I'm taking notes right now Pat like I'm taking notes I'm gonna file it dude I do the answer in the next breakdown that's Duke yeah I hear it in there that's that Duke brain understanding it but yes to your point though to your point about the punters they're all massive I mean I was probably the shortest punter in the league whenever I was in the last I would assume I was okay yeah you're back buddy you're back you guys lost a little service we're out there in the elements office this is what it's like being an at training camp speaking of training camps everybody's trying to get to the same place go ahead Debuye yeah Pat mentioned those body breakdowns to those inspired me to put some breakdowns on the net seeing those mangled fingers going in here breaking down absolutely love it but I'm gonna actually because of that and because you've been boots on the ground a lot of these camps you mentioned the bear there we go there we go what team what team I guess player or coach are you kind of higher on than you know the average fan or analyst right now going into this season well I think that you know if you look at it like look one of the biggest praise we've ever seen was Miles Garrett to LA in essence for Jared verse like Jared verse is a stud and he's going to have a monster year in Cleveland now he's not Miles Garrett nobody else hits but I would say just watch out for the year Jared verse has first of all he's embraced the trade he's an Ohio kid he's in Cleveland it's it's not the greatest situation but you wouldn't know it talking to him like just watching that kid work like he's gonna have a monster year in Cleveland just that's just one guy right now but I feel like you know it's a guy that probably got overlooked because of the trade got into a fight with a guy he was mentoring just a week beforehand love that type of funnel I believe is who we got into it there okay we can't talk about Cleveland without talking about the quarterback situation what are your thoughts on it we as humans that have been in the league see $230 million guaranteed to a guy if he can get on to a football field the owner is probably going to force him to be a starter but that has not been a conversation at all Todd Munkin has come out and said hey this a competition and then it was also reviewed that Todd Munkin was the one in Baltimore that wanted to draft Shador so he's a big fan of Shador so with all that being said how do you see this working out and what are your thoughts on where Cleveland is at and Todd's first year now I was in Cleveland last week Pat and it was Shador Sanders day they've been rotating days back and forth so Shador took all the number one reps when I was there he looked good this you know this this Boston kid that they drafted at Washington looked really really good that he's been elevated to the first team already but Todd Munkin once is he wants the quarterbacks to decided he doesn't want to have to make the decision himself the play of the quarterback should determine the players are going to know who's the best quarterback the best option for the team is you can't lie to your team and so he wants the quarterbacks one guy's going to get you know the first team reps in the first pre-season game second guy will you know get the second pre-season game they rebuilt the offensive line so the line is trying to figure it out and get together you always want to see the starting quarterback have a chance with the starting offense line and that's something to be determined as they build this offense line with George Warhol and Bobby Johnson the offense line coaches yeah I like Todd Munkin away he's handling it all I'm excited to see Cleveland maybe have success yeah you know maybe have success over there would be fun for their team obviously new stadium coming in I got a chance to fly over where that's going to be that's going to be a gigantic I mean that is going to be a huge thing they're obviously not happy that's being covered but I think the amount of shit that's about to come through Cleveland is going to be gigantic maybe it's their time Daniel Oufousi uh. report that the Browns could that get that right. - Yeah, yeah. - Oyee or Oyee, we had him on last week. - Yeah, we did. - How are you? - Last week he said it was good. - Yeah, I know, that's what I was trying to in real time 'cause you just tweeted, you said Todd Monkin will tell Dishon or Shadore who will be starting after the Bears practice. So maybe we get a little bit of information to overreact to what does that mean for the regular season. I mean, who knows when it's all said and done. Good luck to Cleveland. Okay, last question here, buddy. August 12th, 2026. Who's winning the Super Bowl? I mean, like everybody else, like how the Rams are gonna lose it right now. You know, like how do they lose a game? How do they lose a game? And Seattle's in there. - Like everybody wants to talk about Aaron Donald and maybe that happens and, you know, maybe, you know, Superman sets a new sack record this year and maybe Matt Stafford's the MVP of the league and all of that, but like, you can't overlook what they did with Trent McDuffie, Jalen Watson. You know, what Kobe Turner has done, like, they've got so many good players. They filled their holes in special teams in a corner and then you added the studs on the defensive line. Like, I don't know how they lose it right now. - Hey, Baldy. I went through their schedule a couple of times on my phone and I was like, what, let's say Aaron Donald's playing because it seems like that is what's happening. It's like, okay, who's moving against them? You know, who's gonna move? Sam Donald's gonna be able to move against him. It's like, well, they have been able to pass. Kubiak's gone though. So, like, what's that gonna look like? I like Seattle, but they got a whole new thing going especially with their OC Leven. And then you start looking on the ABC side. It's like Green Bay, like, I guess Green Bay could be a team I could go on and run. Minnesota Vikings announced who they're starting quarterback is. You talk about Todd Monkin wanting Shedore and Deschandre to decide it. How'd you feel about KOC coming out? Seemingly, it's been 50/50 in saying that Cather's the starter. That's for the locker room, right? He's saying that for the locker room or is he saying that for everybody, you think? So, I think he's saying for everybody. Because honestly, the talent that made Tyler Murray, the first pick in the draft, is still a talent. His arm is elite, his accuracy is elite. He's with, he's in an organization that's infinitely better than any team he played on in Arizona. Since it has the receivers he has, a veteran offensive line, Aaron Jones behind him, a play-caller in KOC. Like, this is a great situation. So, make the statement now. Let him take all the number one reps the way we saw him at home today. Let him start building the camaraderie with these guys and let him, like, start figuring it out. Like, this is gonna be a great situation. The contract is so favorable right here. He can play himself into a huge contract and in a great situation on a team that with Brian Flores calling defense, like, this could be a very good situation in Minnesota with Tyler Murray. - We cannot wait to watch Cather Murray. 'Cause I think only the banger survive in my brain for Cather Murray. So, I only think about him running 450 yards in one play and then scoring the two-point conversion or whatever, or scrambling to his left crossbody out to the right sideline hovering across 'cause his arm is outrageous. Remember, only guy ever in the history of sport, which we love sport, to be top 10 in MLB and NFL draft. I mean, that is the right arm that this kid has. So, in a Kevin O'Connor offense, you would assume-- - Justin Jefferson. - You would assume. - Toy net. - You would assume. - He's a rock. - You would assume. - Aaron Jones, you would assume that Kevin O'Connor can find where he can he. And you can see him, he's highlights. And obviously, there's lowlights through the come from Cather Murray's football play. Okay, that has certainly been the case. We have seen lowlights. We haven't seen the Arizona Cardinals go win a Super Bowl, anything close to it, okay? So, we certainly, but it's hard for me not to get excited about him throwing one of those 30-yard lasers. - And if it takes some time, B-Flows is one of the best DCs in the week. - Actually, oh, no, it's Minnesota. I thought that just-- - It's a huge year for KLC and Minnesota. - They better with-- - What a huge year. - That is so-- - They better with-- - What do you mean, if they don't, when do you think-- - They're not some bosses, yeah. - No! All right, we hope not. Baldi, we appreciate the hell out of you, man, great to chat with you. - Love it Pat. Talk to you soon, buddy. - Yeah, I hope so, ladies and gentlemen. That's Brian Bowen. (clapping) - Hey! - Hey! - How about that finger? - Oh my god. - Pretty crazy. - Baldi's awesome. - Very beautiful. - I think it takes a left. - Boom! That's what he does. Boom! Thank God, juke's. (laughing) - He's just got sideways and then he looks at it. Man, I guess I'm not gonna fix that ever. Now he's just a nine finger. 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Also the NFL right around the corner. And in just a few moments, we're not a show board. - Hell yeah, cool. - Joining us now live from Connecticut, Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion, super champion. Roder cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. - Yeah. - How you doing, Hawke? - I'm doing great. We love to see Gumpy last night had a good time. It's just amazing seeing him front row, front and center, man. It's good to see Gumpy. - Gumpy's the American dream, brother. From ship painting, obviously, to, fuck around with the Patreon games. - Hey, Bob. - Hey, I'll tell you, I did not expect, okay, I guess I should have. This is just like World Cup, man. All right, people need to, maybe I need to do a little bit more research. I showed up there, tank top, call. Remember, call. That's what it was, big and big. Eagle, and he said, call across the bottom. And I had a USA hat on, okay, then all of a sudden, I was invited to go to the places, and I get down in there. - Everybody's really nicely dressed. I didn't know that that happens at the sporting events. Last night, Patreon games, high schoolers, going through fitness challenges and tests to see if they can become champion to win $125,000 in scholarships. One boy, one girl, unbelievable stuff. I didn't, you know, everybody's got really nice dress around us. You know, and I guess my backwards hat, certainly, certainly caused a little chaos out there. I guess out there. My head's too big to really wear a hat forwards, I will say. But I do appreciate that I, I maybe should have had something a little nice, but I was at the Patriot game. - Come on. - And nobody's talking about it? Air Force ones, USA Air Force ones. - Oh wow. - Okay. - Yeah. - Nobody's talking about the USA Air Force. - Was that how you USA too? - Yeah, Team USA Baseball. - So. - Team USA Baseball. - That's how you wrote. - I was there to celebrate these United States high schools. Now, after, you know, we start watching this, I immediately, the person I am, I'm like, "I got a thousand ideas for this thing." Oh my God, we need, we need old mech over here. - Yep. - We need the agro crack back here, we need pull up. And then also, we need to, we need to take this thing on tour to make sure we're getting all the right high schools to be in this thing. So, like, the future of what these can become, I am such a huge fan of, and the initiative, and I'll tell you what, I think there's a lot of powerful people that are wanting this to succeed as well. And I'm a fan of that. The NFL Play 60 thing, that was a big push for a long time. I was so confused on why that was an initiative. They're like, we gotta tell these kids to play for 60 minutes a day. Like, 60 minutes a day. What else are they doing? - That's like, well, there's a lot of distractions now. You know what I mean? - Sure. - Yeah, you got your iPhone, you got your iPad. Obviously, there's many other options to do that. My kids aren't even riding bikes anymore. They're on e-bikes. It's like, they're telling people to be active for 60 minutes. We might as well tell them 12 hours to be, and I was like, that was a shock to me, that that was happening. Now it's only even gotten, I think, more so. So, anything that's promoting competition, fitness, activity for the next generation, I'm about about it. And I'm a huge fan of this concept and theory, and I think it's gonna be gigantic. Shout out to Mr. President for the hospitality, and also being a driving force for this entire event to happen. I was fortunate to kind of hear the behind-the-scenes stories about how this all came together, and why this came together. It's like, I think this thing has a chance to be 10, 20, 30, 100 years of something special, and it was cool to be a part of AJ over there in a great state of Ohio. - Yeah, it was cool to see the whole situation. Also, I think you may have been worried that looked like you pissed your pants. It did not. Even walking in it didn't look like you peed your pants, even though I know you were completely soaking wet, standing out for it. - Drenched, yeah, drenched. And I thought to myself, oh, they'll probably have like a change of clothes at this thing. For the president, sure. There's probably a change of clothes, you know that? - That's gonna be a wardrobe. - I didn't know. I mean, oh, by merch, you know, I was gonna buy merch, maybe? - There you go, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is there, I was drenched, man, obviously. It was really coming down, it was really coming down out there. - Who was Gumpstornis? - Gumpstornis. So, Gumpst was standing either under a wing. - Gumpstor, they were searching 'em. - Gumpst was either under the wing or not. So, I go to Marine One. - Yeah. - The helicopter. - Yes. Incredible helicopter. Unbelievable setup in there. - I bet. - It's a plane. - That's the best. - Couple Uroz up there in the front also. Couple dog sergeant, major up there. It was incredible. As I'm doing that, I guess what you don't see on camera is Gumpy, sprinting to an Osprey plane helicopter thing. - Those are awesome. - On the other side, he gets in with the entire, oh yeah, strapped in. Okay, he's in an Osprey helicopter. There's four of those, okay, that are tailing the Marine One helicopter. And I'm sitting in there, okay. President of the United States is right here. We're just, he's entire staff. I believe there's some pretty important things in there, okay? - Safe to assume. - Right behind him, I think, I give a little, just a case. - Pretty powerful. - We got in there. - Yeah, that seems like whatever it is. Just conversation, you know? Trying to like figure it all out. What's all going on? Look out the window. You see Gumpy in his Osprey, you know? Just flying right by us over like. - He's on the turt. - Oh, it's insane. - Did I see the back of the Osprey was open? - Yeah, yeah. - He was ready to jump all the time. - He was so sick. - They told him, they said, you're gonna want to wear headphones. It gets loud in here or whatever. You're gonna want to wear a, and Gumpy, you know, like, oh, I don't want to be a bother. You don't need to give that to me. I think it starts out, he's outside literally sitting right next to those choppers pretty much. Head puts the headphones on, has strapped in. I'm like, Gumpy's maybe going to the U.S. military, right? I don't know if that's happening, but it was a, it's a cool initiative that I think a lot of people that have a lot of say are behind. Like, the head of Disney being there is gigantic. Josh Tomorrow, he obviously just got named the head of Disney within the last year. So everything that he's doing for the first time is kind of a big precedent setting thing. It feels like he is a big fan of sports and big fan of, like, fitness. I love the chance to get the chat with him. I love what he's about. Obviously, he's an incredible suit as well. He's the head of Disney. I mean, the last one, the Bob Father's now an owner of the Lakers. He's considered like the greatest suit in the history of suits with what he's been able to do with Disney. It's like, Josh certainly a talented suit and executive in everything like that. But he's a sports person. He's fitness person, kids, sports people, fitness people. So I think this is a huge, I think in his eyes, he's seen the same thing that I'm thinking, like, hey, this could be good for the years, generations potentially, especially if we spotlight and make it bigger. So I was honored to be a part of last night. Like, actually, I felt like that was the beginning of something big. Boy, people said some mean stuff to me, H.A. Right? He said some mean stuff. Are you surprised that we come on now? No, no, I guess not. But that is fascinating. You know, it's very fascinating how that just automatically is just assumed that that's how it's going to be. Wow. It's real. Oh, yeah. It shook the camera. I mean, you could have come in at the last night if it was-- We lost camera three for a second right there. The Thunderdome. It has stopped here. What's that, buddy? It hasn't stopped here. Thunderdome, fighting all the time. Well, huge rain. Here to you, right? I mean, this is normal. What happens? We usually get it a little after you, yeah. Yeah. Yesterday, it was crazy. Any time a pilot goes on, hey, it could be a little bit of a gnarly ride here. So-- Yeah, gnarly. That's a OK gnarly. It's supposed to go worse. Good describing. It is supposed to go worse, yeah. Here? Yeah. We're kind of just in it till 5 o'clock, at least, and then it's supposed to maybe dissipate a tiny bit, and then we'll come back tonight. All right, so if this screen goes completely black, and we lose audio, could be people bad about last night. Could be. Could also be storm. Could be. And what we'd like to say is just know that if it goes pitch black there, we will always be promoting future generations being active and getting in the sports of fitness. Just know that. You can put that on the ticker forever. I'm a big fan of that. I love that. I'm very thankful for sports. I'm very thankful that I was taught at a young age. Like, hey, you can get in shape. You can take care of your body. This is how you go about doing it. I think sports fitness and opportunities provide that. So I will continue to pound that drum, especially if it's going to be something that could potentially be nationwide with every single high schooler. Debut was a little confused who always there. Yeah, well, he said he had ideas. I'm very, very curious. I mean, you've spent a lot of times could be. He's spent a lot of time in locker rooms. You've seen a lot of athletes, AJ, cross the country, I would say I think because I don't know what you're saying. I'm not sure what you're saying. Those people might be doing their sport though. I give if it's thing, where were the black kids? Whoa. Huh? Where were they? I didn't see them. That's what you meant. Yeah, I didn't see them. I mean, wrestle faces. I mean, I'm in South Florida. We got all right. We don't have all the answers. I don't see them. Travel, travel, travel, travel. We're going to travel. OK. We don't know. Hey, I don't know how you get in. I don't know the finals, baby. But I would like to let you know. Show up. The family guy is the family guy speaking. Show up. As I was walking. As I was walking in that parade at the beginning. Uh-oh. 146. This guy's a puberty. I got a lot of questions. I'm walking in that parade. This is my first time having eyes on him, right? Yeah. The first time seeing anything. I was very-- look, I'm even in the middle. OK. All right. Then I turn around, and I see all the kids. I'm like, fascinating. OK? I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by OK. Are you-- are you-- so you can confirm he's a real kid? Real kids, yes. All of them, very nice. Come on. They all have great stories, obviously. They're all very enthusiastic. It felt like it was kind of also a good summer camp for them. They obviously had friends that were competing or behind them, you know. But I did think immediately as I was walking up there. Because I think this would be so cool for me if I could do this, you know, when I was in high school. This would have been something that would have been gigantic for me and my family. This would have been-- and this would have been an opportunity for me to be able to showcase my eclectic-- athleticism. There you go. For money, as a high schooler. That would have been a huge thing for me. So as I was looking around, I was starting to think, like, I don't see any knees really here. And then I thought to myself, oh, there's going to be a lot of people thinking that. As I was looking around, which then I immediately go, we got to get this thing-- I don't see a bad-- we say AJ, oh, you see Cam has it out there. I don't know. Rockwell was a dog, all right? Yeah, wait till you do it. Well, well, well, well, well, no spoilers. No spoilers. No spoilers. But we do need to get-- We do need to make sure that becomes-- Yes, I'm going to watch tomorrow. Thanks, God. Oh, it's on ABC tomorrow. It was on last night. It's on ABC tomorrow. Oh, no, yeah, my thing, my ESP ain't giving me. It was storming out here, so it couldn't connect to a lot of-- That's it, dude. The songs you have internet going to be sitting up there with the president of Disney, ABC, ESPN, and the United States of America. Try to find it, find it. And your internet just couldn't do-- OK, OK. Anyways, on that note, we do need to make sure that that becomes a very-- which, once again, exactly kind of to the point of all this. We think this could be a very cool thing for everybody. So I am certainly a supporter. Now, speaking of being a supporter, there are people out there that would like to earn other people's support by paying $12.5 billion for Los Angeles Lakers. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the person that broke the news this morning as Kushner and Iger buy the Lakers from a guy that just bought it last year for $12.5 billion. Bob Iger, former head of Disney, now owner of Lakers, the one who broke the news, who went through the NBA finals with two sprained ankles. That's right, yeah. Still on the court. Ladies and gentlemen, Ramon Shalborn. [APPLAUSE] Two sprained skulls. You still be hobbling around the Madison Square Garden. Not a pretty sight. [BLANK_AUDIO] Well, you toughened it up. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't obvious. It was a, it was a wow. That lady sprang both of her, that, she course and went, both of her ankles were sprang. And you were still out there on the court in the back. It was the next, it was the next. I understand. This wasn't just any NBA finals, this was the next. Yeah, but you know what we think? You would have done it for anybody, because you're an absolute dog. Now let's continue to move forward about a big move that you broke today. This is huge, obviously for all of sports, but definitely the NBA. One of the most storied franchises now sells for 12 and a half billion in Los Angeles. This came about pretty quickly. Is that what we're reading and learning? And did you expect, or anybody expect this was a possibility? Yeah, I got a tip on this last night, real late last night L.A. time. I think the agreement just closed right around when I got a tip and stuff. And it was somebody called me and said, are you sitting down, said, okay, should I? And I didn't know if it was true. At the time, it took me kind of all night to confirm it. And obviously this morning, we were able to report it. And it was, Pat, I mean, my mind is still a little blown here. Like this is a lot of money, but not even just the money. It's how fast this closed. From what I understand, Iger and Josh Kushner were in the expansion process, trying to bid on the Vegas team. Those talks are going nuts right now. I think the number for the Vegas expansion team is climbing close to what Mark Walter paid for the Lakers back last year, which was $10 billion. And at some point, these two guys are pretty smart and they go, well, why would we buy an expansion team for 10 and then have to spend another two and a half to build a stadium in Vegas without at least calling Mark Walter and seeing if we could buy the Lakers for 12 and a half, right? So on Sunday, from what I understand, he got a, Mark Walter got a call from, I believe it was Josh, but it might have been Bob, it was this group, OK? And just said, are you, are you open to this possibility? And Mark wasn't really looking to sell, but he had to think about it. And he had a day to decide. And then they got to work on the agreement. And it all wrapped up since Sunday. I mean, nobody knew like everyone I called trying to confirm this was like, this all just happened really fast. And I think we're all making sense of what this means. For the Lakers going forward, Mark had just put in all these dodger guys, they had just hired all these people. And from what I understood, all those people, it's going to be business as usual until this sale closes. The MBA will have to vote on it. They'll have to approve them as owners. But there is a sale agreement in place right now and it's for Mark Walter's shares. So the bus family still has a minority stake in this team. What does that mean for them? We're still figuring it all out. - Okay, so thank you for all the information and for the journalism as we have a $12.5 billion deal with one of the largest sports franchises in the world. Bob Iger, one of the greatest deal makers of all time. I think that is why he became, you know, who he became, it is a remote, I think, yes. I would say he would be argued as one of the greatest deal makers to ever exist. Kushner obviously incredibly successful. And I assume he would have to be a good deal maker. They put a deadline on him, right? Didn't they say, hey, you got to be like this time to figure this out. But once you start piecing the numbers together, 10 billion for the Vegas team, got to build a franchise, got to build a brand, got to build an arena, got to build everything. Plus expansion draft, who knows who they're going to end up with. We got Luca NLA with the Lakers. We don't own the arena, okay? We don't own the arena. But if it's going to cost us 10 billion to try to build a brand, 12.5 billion does make a lot of sense. If you just have an extra two and a half billion sitting around, which leads to who's the money behind us? Kushner's the money behind us? Do we know how this has to operate in? So he owns a company called Thrive Capital, which is a big, big fund right now. But they started something in May called Thrive Eternal, which is kind of a separate fund that in this era of AI and all that, they want to invest in eternal type brands and legacy brands. Their first investment was a minority share of the San Francisco Giants. And this one is obviously quite a bit bigger. This is, I mean, we had this conversation when Mark bought the team. How could it be worth 10 billion dollars? Well, all around the world, I think you can name the Dodgers, the Lakers, the Knicks, maybe the Patriots now, maybe around around the world. Not just Yankees, Yankees, I mean, I think there's five or six big teams like this, maybe the Golden State Warriors at this point. They actually own their arena. - Dallas Cowboys. - It's for River House. - Dallas Cowboys. - But I think, look, it's the brand. I mean, and this is, if you're Mark Walter, it's, look, there is this federal investigation that he's been under for the last year. So I think this predates even his buying of the Lakers. This is not connected to that, but it obviously was in the background of all of this. This is not Mark looking to sell, but this was two smart guys who said we should place a call. And Josh Livesen has a house in Malibu, I think. Bob lives here in Los Angeles. These are huge sports fans. I first, even though he was technically our boss, right, Pat? He was all of our bosses. I met him when he was a court side season ticket holder with LA Clippers. He's a huge sports fan. - Yes. - He tried to help bring the NFL to Los Angeles few years ago, and he was involved with that Carson group that was trying to bring the Chargers and Raiders here. So he's had an interest in this. And obviously he's got time now. He retired at Disney. - He had a cheese sculpture. I do believe of Lombardi in his office. If I'm remembering accurately, right? - He did say that, yes. That's like great as soon as he walks in. He has a Roger's Jersey, I believe. Like right here is a huge Green Bay Packers fan. Then there was a cheese statue of Lombardi in his office. Yeah, so he definitely loved sports. He was a Clippers guy. Yeah, he was a Clippers guy. I think it's gonna be pretty easy for him to go ahead and bop over to the Lakers. I'm very surprised that some other guy who has seasoned tickets to the Lakers didn't figure out a way to do this. - Who's that? - Yeah, I'm telling you. - You might be looking at that Vegas team. - Are you gold? Might be trying to move in there. Yeah. Because you have paid five grand. I'll take it. I'll put up a three if I want to. That actually probably happened straight out of entourage. This is a big deal. Now, let's talk it. Luca put out a tweet. Of course, saying, hey, I can deal with changes. D-but has a question for you. - Yeah, I keep mentioning earlys, two sales in less than two years. Have you spoke to any of the players or people that are in front of office positions in that Lakers organization since this last sale? - I think they found out about when I found out. Like, I don't think this was been. Nobody had really looped everybody in. I don't, this happened so fast. I think everybody's just making sense of it now. Like, it's all, it all happened fast. They're all, this morning, they know, you know? And everybody's wrapping their head around it. But because of how fast this went down, nobody has any idea what this means yet. Like, I've checked in over at the Lakers. They just hired a bunch of people. So they're gonna, those people, it's business as usual and tell the sale closes. There's a board of governors meeting next month. I guess it could close as soon as that. You asked about the money earlier. Clearly, they had their financials in order because they were in the expansion process. So if you're already bidding on the expansion process, you got the money lined up. And so they've already been vetted to some extent by the NBA if they're this far down the road in that expansion with Vegas. But I also think if you're the rest of the NBA, this, we all thought the two expansion franchises, what, six, eight billion? I think it's gonna be more than that from what I understand. And she's, everybody gets a cut at that. And when Vegas is pretty much an L.A. market, like when the Lakers play a preseason game, they're all Laker fans there. And so this is now L.A. You know, if you buy Vegas, when you can buy L.A. When you can buy an established team and brand with a superstar that's in place, for basically the same amount of money that they were gonna have to go for in Vegas. - Yeah, very smart move by Bob and Josh. I mean, that's probably gonna happen. Go for it if I'd guess. And Bob's got relations, so many relationships in a nationally business wise. Not the questioner does it from our understanding. But yes, I would assume the Lakers are about to become their national, we're going on tour, especially with Aluca. - Yeah. - I mean, well, come on, get rid of the bra and then it can touch for a year and a half. And now Aluca is kind of the, unbelievable stuff. We appreciate you reporting. - You got it Pat. - Romano Scheler. - Yeah, Romano. - Senior writer for ESPN. We got a tip late last night that it was happening. - It's insane. - I kind of heard as they were signing the, how much money, 12 and a half billions? - LeBron knew. - Sham's supposed to be kicking himself. - You think he left 'cause of the sale? - Oh, he's had enough of his shit. My job at my shop was arms. - Who is the owner of the 76ers? - No, no, no. - Is it fanatic? - No, I don't know, is it good? - Yeah, he is the owner. - Josh here is Josh. - Yeah, well, I didn't talk as he was the commander. - Yeah, I thought he had to get out too. - I sure am. - 'Cause he went to the commander. - I thought they both sold. Yeah, I don't know who the owner is. - That's a great question. - Hair splits? - So that's Josh, Josh here. - Oh, Josh Harris, so he goes NBA and NFL. - Mm-hmm. - They have another lead too. - Yeah, I think it's a good move. These owners, I think about the NFL teams now. The Lakers are worth how much? - Yep, 12 and a half billion. - Well, she's a three point. We want a 40 and that seems like it. - Yeah, no shit. Actually, and then somebody said, "Well, that makes the Dallas Cowboys" where it's like 16, 15, it's like, "You think if the Dallas Cowboys want to pursue, they wouldn't be able to get $25, probably $25 billion, $30 billion." - Well, Jeff Bezos played pay for the Cowboys' thing. - You know, he hasn't really gotten involved, right? - No, he had not enough fun. - There's been a couple of times where he could- he wants the rights, I think, to be able to show the games. I think if he was to buy a team, I wonder if that would conflict with that. Like I do. - Yeah, so for this purpose, I get the deal. - Let's say Elon Musk would be there. - He long run a team, just out of nowhere. - Cool. - Just see Elon wants a team. Stadium is gonna be outrageous. They might have 175,000 person stadiums. - Yeah, that's why I finally-- - It's gonna be built in 14 days somehow. You know, it'll flamethrowers for everybody, obviously. - Yeah, I think that's an edge on Bushron. We're running out of people who can buy teams. - What do you mean? - There's not a lot of people, you know, in the world worth that much money. - Well, actually, that's a huge part of the conversation in society right now is that there's more people that are getting that amount of money, but not nearly enough people are able to get that amount of money. And do you need that amount of money for anything other than trying to buy a professional sports team? That's kind of the conversation and all this stuff. We would like to let everybody know on the record. We would like to be able to buy sports teams. - That'd be cool. - We would like to be able to do that. - That'd be great. I think we're ever going to be able to do that, buddy. - It's in the venture capital. It's the only route it seems going forward. Funds, edge funds. What's drive? - Yeah, drive capital. - You know what, you've got nostalgic brands. The Yankees just sold to a portion to a private equity dentist. - Yeah, I don't know how that works. They could have seen on the board. I don't know if the Steinbrenner's actually sold anything, but they got like a $2.5 billion cash infusion, right? - You remember when the NFL opened up a spot, you can sell 10% of your company to private equity if you've never let that before, or foreign money. If you guys want to take a massive payday from some group of trillionaires, you're allowed to do that right now. And then five of them are like, - Got it, they'll give me 400 million, the up 350 million, let's go ahead and do that. Crazy business, this sports world is. Lucky to be a part of it, obviously, up and to the right whenever the ratings are what they are. Now, let's talk about some of these teams that are getting after it, AJ. Nick Bosa is considered week to week with that 10 to the nightest. 49ers and Titans are practicing together. Four fights yesterday. So is Bosa week to week because they know that Salah's bringing a bunch of scrappers into town, or is he week to week because whenever we saw him walk and run yesterday in the video clip that was shown from practice, he looked like he was not 100%. Rappaport told us that's a mental thing. Now we're learning 10 to the nightest. I think that naturally comes after a lot of surgeries, AJ, as I'm somebody who has 10 to the nightest and arthritis in my knees and everything like that. AJ obviously will be able to speak to this as well. Is this just new normal for Bosa? What are you thinking here for him? I don't know. I mean, it sounded like Rappshi was saying like it takes a while for people coming off an ACL to trust it to go make those cuts and plant and do all that stuff. That's a mental hurdle. That didn't sound like what Nick Bosa was going through. See, like 10 to the nightest and arthritis, someone's gonna have to tell me the difference between them two. Arthritis comes when all my cartilage is worn down in my knee and it just grinds bone on bone. That's arthritis. 10 to the nightest is a bit different. I don't know exactly how to describe what 10 to the nightest will be, but I feel like it's something that can continue to come back. So I hope they're just trying, like you said, if someone pulls a groin, you're gonna get 100% before you come back fully. Hopefully that's what they're doing with Bosa. But yeah, I mean, I think this is his second ACL. Do we know if it's the same knee he tore twice? I'm not sure. Anytime you open up and do surgery, there's a chance, you know, for some stuff to do. Do you have a guy at your own? Arthritis affects the joint itself by breaking down cartilage or causing internal joint inflammation. 10 to the nightest affects the soft tissue, meaning it's a swelling or irritation of the thick cords connecting the muscle to the bone. Okay, so maybe they'll be able to anti-inflammatory the hell out of that thing and get it down, right? That's what we're thinking. And manage it, and yeah, manage it throughout the season. Obviously, as you get noticed, that happens on the time with players, especially come up in. He's gonna be the same guy, though. Yeah, and I know it doesn't help. That's substitution right next door. Yeah, substations going. 10 to the nightest, my favorite. Maybe they should build a, have you seen the thing? They built over Chernobyl. I forget what it's called to encase the whole thing. Maybe they do it to the practice field. So all those, all the electromagnetic waves that I tried to wash the show on that. It was too dark. Oh, yeah, very great show, great show. Actual light. Great show. Not like dark. So copetists or copetists. Something like that. What's that? That's what's covering up, Chernobyl. If you get, if you pull a picture, yeah, it's a gigantic stuff. Like in the engine. It rolls right over top. No, it's a sarcophagus. They need to put that over the, substitution though. Are we talking about pulling over the practice facility? Because then it probably won't work as well. I doubt the substation works. If you put a big old steel thing over top of it. Chernobyl is a substation sending our power underneath. That's what I thought. I was going right to the grid. That power is getting out no matter what. I don't know. Have you seen what they built over Chernobyl? Do you see this little barn? I do know what they have built over Chernobyl. You see that barn? You see that barn? I mean, that looks like a big bubble to me, but they say inside of that, it's not getting out. Yeah. So they got bombed. They got bombed a little bit too. Okay. I'm okay. Well, I certainly love that. Puka Nakula left practice really due to groin sores. I think that's a big deal. Yeah. He'll get healthy. Miles Garrett still swall a little bit. He's 85 percent. Aaron Donnell. Yeah. Dude, do your thing. What you got to do? If you guys don't want to play, it's okay. Let's train again. Yeah. Kind of seemingly the mindset coming out of Los Angeles ramps. Obviously, it's not. Sean McVeigh runs a very detailed and high motor type opera. We understand that. They're a very good team. But it does feel like in comparison to the Dallas Cowboys, the ramps are very much like, let's make sure we're getting to the season. And the Cowboys seemingly are thinking that they need to grind their way to become a team that can maybe win this thing. They have obviously been out of conversation when it's late in season for a long time. They haven't been there since what? The 90s for something like that, the NFC Championship. Yeah. Long time. Like the 90s or something like that. Shotty's got the boys wanting to do extra conditioning while the ramps walk by and say, "That's cool. We did our work already. We're going to get out of here." Your thoughts on this kind of dynamic or juxtaposition happening right in front of our eyes out there? Yeah. This was great to see. Obviously, the Cowboys are feeling good. Like everything coming out of camp for them and shotty, it seems to be going very well. And the ramps seem to be very confident in who they are. And I think this is one of those things that they meet up late in the season. They play if the ramps win afterwards, we're going to hear the ramps, "Oh, how about them extra sprints, guys?" But that really helped you today, didn't it? We're going to hear them talk back and forth. If the Cowboys beat them, they'll say something about the extra work that they put in. But I thought this was great too, watching them walk off the field. I feel like I've been a part of situations like this, especially in high school. Things like this will happen. Things like high school, it's cool football, and that's what the Cowboys are trying to get back to. Baldi said, "Every day after practice with the Cowboys, they ran conditioning." They didn't even know. D-Bud said, "Belichek, every day after camp, they had conditioning." I think I was only a part of a team that did a couple times after practice. And it was always because something didn't go good at practice. You know, it was only place pretty much every day. And Baldi talked about, you know, you jump all sides, you fall start, you run after practice. That was during practice. You were fall starting, D-line, or O-line, or you jumped all sides, you just took a lap. You didn't even, right then in there, boom, with vents, boom, all right, boom, go ahead, take that lap, and get back when you get back in practice. How do you feel about guys that drop balls and don't do push-ups? On the spot, maybe not, but at some point, you got to pay the paper. Okay, so you don't care if it's happening at the time. If you need to carry these over to whenever you're not on the field, you need to get your tenon for what you're doing. So whatever you need to do DBs, we should do it, not like individual or something, just not your ten-out after the period. I know for wide outs, maybe that means like 20 more catches on the jugs after practice. You know, whatever, I don't get any others, whatever your individual thing is, do you need to get right for the game, for practice, for whatever, you got to do that. What about stay away from the quarterback? Was that something though? That's always a. Hey Jay, is it this match? I mean, I hate the harp on it. But the Max Crosby hitting quarterback, Cousins, in practicing, broke my brain. It actually broke for everything that I know, and I've observed from just football. I just. Even ritual. Go ahead. Sorry, even hitting him. Yes, hitting the quarterback is crazy to think of making contact with him. But you got to create like a three to four yard halo around him because the biggest thing I know, you don't want that quarterback's hand to hit your helmet and that boom, he's got to get Tommy John Serger, his finger, look like Baldi's all of a sudden. That's what you're trying to protect against the most. I mean, there is a chance I guess, Tommy John, right? Yeah, they're talking. I don't know if they hit your hand, yeah, people definitely bust around. Yeah, it's like having a bow and arrow go without an arrow, especially if you had a chance to do that, if you get busted up there. But any broken thumb, okay, I mean, a broken thumb. 10 weeks. That's a whole season, basically. That's what they explained at Derrick Hall last night in the Hard Knocks episode, because after that whole thing on the field happened, they then went to the film room and they're like, hey, you see how you're not hitting them, sure. But the way you're running by right where he's throwing, he's going to hit his hand and break his thumb and be out for 10 weeks. Yeah, and it's like, that's why the Max Cosby thing has become such a big deal, I think, because it's just so abnormal. I think everybody's confused. And then you have Hard Knocks run this the day afterwards. It's like, yeah, just to add to the kind of topical story that you guys are with, here's defensive head coach who won the Super Bowl with this guy yelling at this guy about being too close to the quarterback. It's like, I think that's just kind of standard operating procedure. But hey, just changes everything that quarterback goes in for everybody in the building. Everybody in the city. Yeah, we saw even a few, a couple of years ago, when however many starting quarterbacks went down, it just changed the primetime gain slate, it changes everything. And at the same time, I'm sure his D-line, they weren't even in full pass, but his D-line coaches probably, hey, you know, keep kicking ass, you know, get your work in, stay off the quarterback. Mike, Mike, Mike probably had another conversation with him. I'm sure encouraging his effort and current, but like, hey, you got to practice like a pro. This is our quarterback. This is our guy. If he goes down, your situation is fucked too. So let's take care of our guy. Hey, Jay, how about him afterwards saying, oh, it turns out I actually run this practice. I like that out of McDonald's too, because I think he thought that Derek was trying him in front of everybody, you know, and I think McDonald was immediately like, excuse me. Get out. - I don't think that's-- - Second time, you said it's second time. time like it's one thing like that's always you always want to say whoa then go for a player so yeah you're not sure you don't hate the fact that uh the guys I guess you do you do hate the fact he's getting around your quarterback but you love the effort as Debut said but when he did it the second time that's when you're like oh my goodness this guy doesn't get it I guess and so yeah we see how that hard knocks has been great for Mike McDonald as well. I think so too yes and did the spurs tank for one beat but that's a whole another conversation to do yeah yeah another day. partly okay many teams that certainly that but I like the fact everything I see out of the Seahawks uh hard knocks including that moment there between coach and Derek man I like Seahawks a lot yeah I like McDonald a lot I love that him Shanahan and McVeigh and we'll see what will the floor are in the same you know what I mean that is a dynamic lineup of head coaches that are seemingly gonna always have a good team yeah who's gonna be great each year I think we'll figure that out as we go but that NFC West has some great young coaches out there that are seemingly gonna carry us to the next generation speaking of carrying us somewhere ladies and gentlemen we offered up something publicly if you do recall I want to have Thunderdome world records yes I wanted people come in here with unique talents and unique abilities and get a Thunderdome world record and we could enshrine them up here forever do you remember we had a lot of conversations yeah I had a bunch and we looked into a bunch yeah we were we were excited about that and we thought we could just announce that to our own say hey you go in some money I saw some people say uh you offer up I think you offer up like 10,000 bucks and enshrine them in the Thunderdome forever you know and I saw some people say 10,000 bucks you offer up a hundred and something it's like I know they were gonna get was I gonna get a you know you jump rope you have no idea what we're getting so instead what has happened now is Shaquille and Neal has found the greatest dunkers on earth okay he has found the greatest dunkers on earth it's called the Dunkman world championship uh it's comprised of 24 dunkers from around the world China what really they got good dunkers okay I didn't know England in the United States of America lead kicked off this summer with four group stages now the Dunkman world championship will take place on August 25th at O.T. Arena in Atlanta it's good arena greater one of the best joining us now is a man who swept the premiere claiming the group stage a title okay he also won a bonus dunker tonight who which is a $35,000 payday 25,000 for the title and he has the uh dunk called the hazard 360 which is a 360 with a double double uh with a what yeah kid me you heard a double double double double from the dunk man from hazardous dunks ladies and gentlemen joining us now live from the Thunderdome there's a stallion of a mad with a 50 inch vert ladies and gentlemen cam has a my check my check told you not to grab that other one you just assumed that they both work yeah they should why are we paying for this one if it doesn't okay who knows that's for another day uh cam how you doing brother very nice to meet you where you from Dallas Texas okay uh how did you get into just dunking one was your first dunk my first dunk was uh 15 years old and took about six years to get to this point yeah okay so you're 21 years old is that where I'm learning right now in real time congratulations have a little booze everybody nah I take care of the body obviously they say you have a 50 inch vert is that accurate that's true and that's a running start into it oh yeah yeah did you play volleyball or strictly basketball just just basketball and then when dunking I'm horrible at basketball actually but I can jump really out like that is where you high jumper or kind of how'd you get into there being knowing that you're explosive with the legs dunking is its own sport now and I saw all the stuff online I want to do it myself so just as a kid down in Texas you're walking around jumping really high and everybody's like wow this guy can really jump is that how we got into this I mean pretty much you you work on it there's definitely exercise I do that get me ready for it but I was obsessed over the dunes and that's how I got here do you wear those little shoes that do the calf things I know what you're talking about I actually don't but the jump shoes AJ Hawke had the heel trim shoe hey I used to he used to climb them around center but what are some of the exercises that can make some of us maybe jump higher look at Conner Conner would like to dunk before he becomes time yeah well I like to not over complicate I keep it simple so heavy weights and playoffs and then just jump a ton that's all you need to do jump a ton just yeah keep it simple stupid let's go ahead and jump this thing now cam you do know that this would be our first thunder down world record and also you can only do it on the first attempt right that's right one only one attempt so you can have multiple dunks obviously to earn the title but we can't be doing them four or five times which dunk man never does no that's the whole point of the league it's all like the NBA guys they beat attempting it like four or five times maybe but dunk man make sure you can hit it within two attempts oh so I should give you two attempts you think for the it sounds like he just sounds like that's a dog man rules not thunder don't do it's true it's a thunder don't all in favor of two attempts say aye aye opposed aye aye you got one you got one attempt cam that's fine most people need two or more but I can do it in one okay if you don't do it on the first one do it different dunk now this is cement down here so I don't know how much like bounce it's gonna give you so I don't know if that's gonna affect you do you know that you feel good I feel good yeah I had a three and a half hour workout session yesterday so and I I haven't warmed up yet so if I get one more dunk then I'll go for the crazy stuff okay so you just want to warm up dunk yeah warm warm up dunk and then I'll go for crazy stuff okay okay okay yeah that yeah I was wondering if he was stretching in that room okay okay yeah okay he said he was getting a little leg sweeps in this is cam hazard hazardous dunks man out of Texas who is a professional dunking guy and do a warm up dunk just so the people can see what it's like hazardous oh my god he doesn't just can cam cam hold on now cam cam cam yeah hey he got bunnies this camera right here this one I need you to say I will not sue if I get injured or if this hoop falls and hurt you please I will not sue if I get injured in the thunder grove and you are not forced to say that I was not forced to say that I was completely on my own you're 21 but you're not under the influence of any alcohol or drugs I am not I'm not under the influence now and just once again what is the promise that we're making what's the promise oh no they won't sue it's got to hold up it's not gonna hold up no that'll hold up that'll hold up that's iron class I hope the hoop holds up cam do you want another warm up one or do you want to go all right ladies and gentlemen this cam hazard my stamp what's that I'm going to say he said he can't travel though what did you say how many how many okay let's see three good dunks okay all right cam hazard here what's the first one titled oh 360 windmill classic dunk from back in the day video game stuff he's been doing this since high school just standard operating procedure for hazardous dunks 21-year-old team in duck bed oh okay all right hold on let's get hold on hold out here okay cam you have to come visit me right here so it seems like it is a thunder them one cam zero how do we feel about what took place there you know misses happen you just got to keep moving you know I haven't had the best situations warming up but that's right keep it buzz if you still you still haven't thought about world record around the corner hey hey but this is just how he pumps himself yeah all right I like excuses here what's this dunk gonna be here mr. hazardous I'll do a 360 pump 360 pump he he this could this could potentially be a thundered on world record for the best dunk ever done in here there is brother has a two-hander I have wanted 18 oh that was clean yeah feels like he just wanted to put one in yeah yeah yeah hit that room that was clean yeah so you've been doing that one since your 15 oh no that one up probably 18 pull you 18 years old you got one on the board now that's got to feel good by far the best dunk we've ever had that was sir by far the one time though what what is the what is a possible third dunk here that could maybe top what you just did and make the whole entire world go holy shit what hazardous dunks just did is a thundered on world record you know I can mix three dunks together so I'll do a 360 and then go through the legs but instead of going this way I'll go the backwards way oh okay yeah that's what we're talking about crafty hominage a dunk here wow okay hominage a dunk for hazardous dunks as he attempts a thundered on world record first attempt he says sounds like he would like to here okay which is understandable three dunks coming together he's going to be you can reverse under the legs hey that's pretty good ladies and gentlemen hold on hazardous dunks he looked this way congratulations as you are now the first ever solid yeah receiver of the title thundered on world record champion congratulations Thank you anybody you want to thank for accomplishing this feed here. Oh man shout out to all my don't coaches out there I got plenty out there. I was just with Billy Doran. He's with Dunkin Demics and he flew me out to LA Tell me all the stuff. Don't get that mix. I need to get the kid out there soon Congratulations to you. That was amazing. Thank you for doing that. Thank you. Thank you so much Is there anything else you want to just give it a go? Jump out of Elephant What if we move this golf card over or this football elephant or Bill? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Can you jump over this guy? You think he's huge can your legs get that one? Yeah, are you sure you worried about the wrong dems wait matter? Hey This might be a new hundred ohm world. He was got it. He was got static. He's just best out of what he's ever had He's gonna call her on a bedsheet. Thank you for stepping up here man. I appreciate you bro. I give it go That is not a call her on a bedsheet. That is a button-down shirt for D-bone Gumpy He's got a wailin Jennings camouflage hat on Phenomenal boots. Maybe D-bones best fit. Is this what we're talking about with someone's that jump over the elephant Elephants over there. Tony come on. Boom. I'd be seven people. Ladies and gentlemen The man that will be competing in the Donkman Championships on August 25th down in Atlanta already has a Thunderdome world record now looking to do the impossible Yeah, now D-bone and what are you gonna do with this? You're just gonna stand or dunk it through through my legs through your legs. He's just wanted to dunk at demics Do they have anything like this out there at Dunk at Demix to be holding the ball for you? I mean, yeah, he's held it for me. So for sure. Okay, let's see. Okay Paperway AJ Hawk was wondering if he could turn and face this way. Would that be possible or face that way? Okay, I like you getting creative though. Hey, Jay. All right. All right. Good luck with August 25th. Donkman Championships max Now bone dark. Yeah, that was sick. That was crazy. Thank you. Thank you, bone. Thank you, bone I got a little get that kid a statue. Ladies and gentlemen, that's hazardous. Donk's right there That's a bone maybe try to block one and he just posterized him big time. Yeah. Yeah I mean that was fucking sick. That was great. We got a replay here of a bone With the alley I kind of have for a list now smooth. Yeah, he's unbelievable. He gets off the dunkings are sport now So I just kind of focus on that. I'm actually terrible at basketball, but dunking kind of my thing. It's like I like the honesty I was like, what does that even mean? Then he watched him. It's like oh, yeah, make sense is your thing if I actually has wings But this guy's floating through the pressure. Yeah, especially, you know, no no warm up and he's not like that tall He's probably what six one six two maybe. Yeah, and his legs didn't you know, it wasn't like he Springs that's unbelievable. Yeah Congratulations to him on a Thunderedon World record. Yeah, yeah We got to put a photo of him up somewhere as we start this hell of a start It's great start great bar to sit right there and that's where we're talking about we'd like to give him 25,000 bucks and Thunderedon World Record talk This is happening in real time there with hazardous dunks. Hopefully he'll be grateful for it I suppose some people don't know and know that you can do something you know like that if you can I don't know if that's possible, but in your own world We'd love to showcase your talents here and we'd love to immortalize you forever in the Thunderedon as a world record holder Just like cam hazard an absolute stud congrats to him Congrats us getting to witness that. Yeah, yeah, debone great job pal. He didn't mess it up Now we'll continue digitally. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living Be a friend tolle friend something nice in my change or life. Diary of polarizing figure on fronty. Bye-bye There's been a lot of There's been a lot of a lot of evidence of that being true what I just Thirteen sixteen hours You were with it. You were with it even polarizing more polarizing figure Hey, I'm putting an album out on fronty really The diary of a polarizing figure wow I like that Thank you. Thank you. Just think about him experiencing me for the first time at that event, you know, I uh What a time what a time and then obviously Josh tomorrow the head of Disney's just like two doors down there So we're all in I mean it was It was a movie that was absurd, but I think a lot of good can come from it and one of them might be uh American dream story company Not we got a good handshake last night. I know it's not Air Force one that pan out couldn't have been any better. Oh, I can't wait Time throughout the season. What's that him just sitting up there? Oh, yes, there's a gift just like that Looking all night for it. I couldn't find it. Dude, you see the line up there just the line up there of who it is and gumpee Just oh, all right. All right, no fans. I don't think they were so kind to us his citizenship should be I don't know any of that. I don't do any uh quid pro quo. Oh, come on I don't know any quid pro quo. There's no invisible pens last night for gumpee. No auto no invisible. It's not Okay, there was none of that happening. All I do know is there was a celebration of future generation staying at let's go I like the idea. I like the concept presidential fitness thing has been around for a long time Then it stopped 2013 2014 trying to bring that back in a bigger better way with money now with N.I.L Potential, you know, you can really get kids. Oh, yeah, you know, I didn't notice Because we talked about global guts and making it similar to that. There was no Olympic size pull there last night where they can canoe around But balls was there. Yeah, they could have on the other side to be clear. We were You've never seen you've never seen global guts. It's a great event I don't know wrong balls. You don't talk about. It's like a water polo over there. Maybe but no, okay, maybe warm up I don't I don't know unbelievable. They put these like massive fans in there make the kids canoe around and then throw balls in You were canoe canoe around. Oh, okay. That's not what you said. Yeah, I say canoe. You you added a doll to that. Sorry. What? Canoodle around you said. Yeah, that's not true. But All right. Hi. Hey, if you said it, I mean if you didn't say it, we heard it But yeah, I do remember the canoe over there. That that place was big. It looked huge. Yeah, it was huge Yeah, it was like a like a barn warehouse. I think it's inspired Academy. I think it is Great set. I mean, that's role model one for you. Really? Yeah, he went to spire It's like a big sports school. I bet they got a couple facilities. Okay. Yeah, that huge field obviously is part of Just so outrageous I did steal some things from marine one Flood water. Is that a warning? Yeah. Yeah, flash flood. Wow. Jeez. All right. Let's get out of here. Yeah, natural, eminent threat alert. I've never gotten out pretty bad. I survived. Dangerous and life threatening situation So I got a big waves coming That is not fun. Do not attempt to travel unless you are fleeing an area subject of flooding your under and evacuation order All right, so on that note, we will be back here tomorrow. We appreciate you all are by b safe Shout the hazardous dunks ringing the flood Yeah, what do you do? Okay, just absolutely. So I'll make it rain. He lives here now This guy made it flood and this guy with his dunk outrageous. We have everybody safe. Obviously. This is crazy. Uh, whether Can do this different start time tomorrow. Oh, yeah Thursday. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah tomorrow. I'm gonna want brunch time Can I wait to see everybody? Yeah, it's most jacked. I've ever looked at a photo shot of debug put that one on her I need it. What real bad? Well, you just need to get with the boner You gotta just I will keep it then Yeah On the debon plan you need to talk debon. I mean, this will probably be the last time we use this particular photo of me here But Jesus. I'm pretty pumped up about what I got going on my arms. Yeah, like thighs came out of Laguna Beach Yeah, look at these thighs. I got in my arms. That wasn't the last one. Wasn't this updated? Yeah It's up then you have to post work out. Yeah, yeah, certainly. Yeah, we needed for I think it was for the preseason We need a photo for the preseason or something like that for draft kings. We took this bad boy I'll tell you. Maybe she's put that up in a fucking. Yeah. Let me see that a little bit more. Maybe get tones face on Laurent Landry, please Hey, Bill. Did you phrase that Leon Landry in the video? You wouldn't. I mean well, I don't know if a lot of quotes fans in the Laurent Landry either, but They should have and if they would have things to say they would have enjoyed the hell out of them. All right We're on tomorrow at 11 little brunch with the lads. We can't wait to see you then and then Yeah, it should be a blast football is footballing sports or sports in a team just sold for 12 and a half billion dollars The former head of business crazy time to be alive. We're very lucky and thankful to be here Be a friend's girlfriend some nice my change of life. We're understanding together. We thank all of you For allowing us to do this for a living. You're the best. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody be safe especially us. Yeah, yeah, and Our loved ones there's a lot going on around here immediately just as we started thinking about this I lost a tree last night in the house. Yeah Full big tree a J huge tree. When took it down or what? Yeah, took it down Then I I got speared by tree. I came out in like a small road last night my car. Yeah, it's it's not a lot of damage here in Indiana - I would say, this is the most damage I've seen in this area, for ever, maybe. - Probably ever, yeah. - Normally south side of Indianapolis, which stinks a little bit more north of us. Usually Indianapolis kind of misses the heavy stuff. Feels like it's hitting us right now. So to everybody that has this weather on the horizon, whether it's Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, United States, wherever else, whatever's doing with everything, TZP State positive, we appreciate the hell out of you. You're the greatest people on earth that you allow us to do this for a living. I appreciate you. And yeah, to everybody that's just saying, really mean stuff, a big, uh, the fuck, uh. - You. - You. - It really mean, AJ. Are they real? They can't be. You seem like puppets, everybody's saying the same thing. - No way. - Hmm. It could be a part of it. Diary of Polarizing Figure coming out on Friday. I appreciate you all so much. AJ, our debug great work this week. - You too, brother. - What do you guys? - Pumped up about future Patreon games. - Yeah, me too. - I'm not. (laughing) - We're gonna make a big deal. We're gonna make it a big deal. It's gonna become something that's awesome. Generations are gonna do this. It's gonna be, you've come a gigantic ordeal. - You know, if anybody can change, you can change, brother. Hell yeah. - A lot of people saying a lot of things about me, about, you know, changing the stuff. - It's part of it. - That's life, baby. And we'll just continue to roll. You're the greatest team on me, team on three. For the good of sport, baby. One, two, three, team. - Come on!