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PMS 2.0 1600 - Ian Rapoport, Colts Head Coach Shane Steichen, Peter Schrager, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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PMS 2.0 1600 - Ian Rapoport, Colts Head Coach Shane Steichen, Peter Schrager, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Joint practices across the NFL are proving to be pivotal moments for evaluating team readiness, depth, and competitive edge. The New England Patriots are dominating social media with aggressive, high-impact highlights, particularly in one-on-one drills between elite corners like AJ Brown and Christian Gonzalez, signaling their defensive strength. Meanwhile, the Indianapolis Colts are cautious, recognizing their challenges against a top-tier team, especially with Alec Pierce still in rehab and no confirmed return for Week 1. The Minnesota Vikings have officially named Tyler Murray as their starting quarterback, fulfilling long-standing fan hopes after a competitive camp. On the defensive side, the Green Bay Packers are investing in leaders like Quentin Williams, whose defensive IQ and leadership are being praised. Injury updates, including Nick Bosa’s post-ACL soreness and the new challenge flag rule allowing alternate flaggers, show how teams are adjusting to both physical and procedural changes. The NFL’s new challenge review system has reduced game delays and improved efficiency, while the return of Hard Knocks has generated excitement, especially with in-depth coverage of teams like the Seahawks. Overall, these early practices reveal not only player performance but also team culture, depth, and strategic planning—highlighting that while competition is fierce, preparation and adaptability remain central to success.

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Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble the boat the draft Kings Thunderdome on this Patriot games final 2 the last of the 2010 when he sets the sports market begins now he is happening joint practices have already begun in boy it looks like some teams are much closer to winning a Lombardi than others already there's highlights from some teams low lights from others and we got real football happening across the NFL Colts and Patriots have already begun Bucks and Jets have already happened Geno Smith allegedly has thrown the ball to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a few times the New England Patriots have potentially cooked the Colts a few times on one on one's the New England Patriot social media teams on top of it every time I see a coach player getting cooked it's up on social media by the Patriots within a half a second pops getting some AJ's getting some some other randoms I do not know that even exists are getting some a lot of coach low lights happening but joint practices are obviously a phenomenal time because you get a chance to see who you are outside of hitting against people wearing your same uniform now obviously for the bottom half of the roster these days are gigantic as well because you're not only showcasing to your team and your staff and your personnel who you are but also another team staff and personnel anytime you get on film for any team it's good news there's guaranteed fight coming from all of these as the Cowboys will take on the Rams over there in Southern California Titans and the Niners will battle and that's Salah going back over there we'll see how they kind of fare but all of these will feature a fight and all of these will feature some highlights that will make us all think that our teams are potentially better than other teams at this standpoint let's remember it is only August 11th true so if you're an Indian apolis Colts fan it could be a tough day on social media yikes okay that's one rep that's one rep from one angle but at this time we need to not overreact to these types of things even though it's hard not to let's go to the talks of table at bus Connor and attachment con man New England Patriots fans are incredibly pumped about what's going on AJ Brown and Christian Gonzalez Christian Gonzalez about to be number one paid corner in the NFL he is a dog AJ Brown number one water seeker is a dog those two in her first training camp together have been doing battle fighting their shame going after it now AJ Brown gets a chance to see somebody else Gonzo gets to chance see somebody else and they're seemingly a munching at the bit to kind of get after it Colts maybe just a little bit slower starters and his entire thing let's not get too excited from day one to join praxis because we don't know what's coming day two are you pretty excited about what you see yes or I can listen to you there because I am way too excited for all these one I don't want to hear reason or logic no no not not at all not even a little bit I mean especially when you see AJ Brown doing he's doing a sauce gardener you forget oh yeah all the clips that we've been seeing to your point have been AJ Brown against Christian Gonzalez and he is the best corner in the NFL so then when you get to see him against a different corner and just watching him make sauce gardener touch here I think they have to be a lot because you know for Colts fans especially they need to set their expectations like okay look we are now going up against a team that is one of the best in the NFL so now we know okay we're not even close to them we can't even hold a candle to them not just in one-on-ones I've seen some offensive line defensive line reps I've seen many many things that make me think okay if you're Colts fan hammer that under baby under no way we're gonna be talking to coach Stike in here in 27 minutes that's right and he might reiterate he might say yeah wow we just got the doors blown off okay so we cannot be getting like this just because the joint praxis day one although it does feel like we're open one yeah and you guys feel undefeated it does feel like there's a game but maybe 20 and out from the hot spring watching let's go to one half of the hammer bad Cowboys AP tone has the line or odd change since this morning's joint practice for the coach or the jets in the buccaneers because let's not just put the coats on bless your some way game that's true okay they're in some new environment up there and obviously getting their feet set and we're not seeing the coats highlights once again cuz the coach social media has to put their pizzazz on it okay so we got a lot of pizzazz and he's coming alongside that so maybe they'll defend our team and our honor at some point but allegedly down there jets buccaneers Gino Smith has a little bit of a case of giveaways happening right now new offense with Frank Reich obviously not a lot of conversation about the jets at all but the bucks feel like a big convoy yeah as they're taking on another team love to hear some positive motion out of the buccaneers especially in joint praxis with everything else going on yeah I was I was while you guys were doing that I was looking and there was actually as Gino started the day not great through three interceptions but he just threw through two red zone touchdowns so Gino has bounced back there you go there's been some good jets news there's been some great bucks news obviously we see the Patriots there has been one good thing about the cold okay to twenty six minutes and I'm going to tell you just one of the whole thing he did true okay and good news out Pierce didn't get a shot actually yeah Adam Schefter broke some news yesterday that Alec Pierce got a shot is knee after the surgery and we said whoa we thought it was an ankle injury he said no no ankle sorry so that would have meant that there was a PRP injection post surgery for Alec Pierce Alec Pierce's surgery we did not really know about until after he was signed to the biggest deal in the history of wide receivers he gets a surgery on his ankle heel I think it's a heel situation ankle heel from my understanding gets a surgery in Marchish I believe was the time frame and he has not gotten a PRP shot since the surgery he's only been doing rehab and the coats have only been steady as saying we hope he's back for week one there has not been a we think he's going to be back for week one there's not been a there's been a setback for week one it's always just remained we hope he's back for week one and we hope to because from the one-on-ones I'm seeing this morning after doing the Patriots I don't know if we can get open against anybody let's go to nine-year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler debuts obviously the Alec Pierce news yesterday was a little alarming turns out wasn't accurate there was a PRP shot before the surgery though so maybe just dates got mixed in this entire thing but these highlights in these first days of practice especially for a DB or a wide receiver who's out on an island one-on-ones how close the season ready are these guys and how much change takes place from now until week one when it seems like we need a lot of that to happen and the Patriots need to continue to just hold on it see I mean you will hope there you know about three weeks closer like the practices are important I still remember till this day almost all of my joint practices against different teams because they are almost like games you do you know you used to see in the same guys day in and day out the same office same shifts and motions all those things throughout training camp and then you go and you see a different group of guys maybe some guys you're familiar with maybe some guys you aren't familiar with but these are important reps and you know the cameras are out there everyone sees a lot of these reps now so it's a lot more pressure a lot more eyes a lot more attention I would like for our account to put out some highlights of us because we're seeing if you see the bottom right the bottom right you see shout out Patriots so yeah it's all Patriots highlight so I would like to see some wins for us just for our morale but like you said Alec Pierce isn't out there all pro mooney I think he missed the trip with a tight back I believe so hopefully he's healthy ready to go for the season I am excited I love seeing sauce out there practicing seeing healthy yeah he lost the rep how did he do the other reps okay but I you know they're out there battling they're getting better this was the AFC representative last year for the Super Bowl so I mean I don't know how you guys stick with any of these guys I like that sauce was on them still okay incredible route right there absolutely phenomenal route he's wide ass open and then stops literally on a dime and it comes back that's like the perfection of a route he's been having to do that because he's been taking on Gonzo every single day of practice now does that change anything potentially because Alec Pierce isn't practicing you know who is sauce kind of going up against I don't know but it does feel like AJ is in mid season for him right now not that everybody he's even wearing near that he's only gonna get better but I do think at the beginning of camp you can learn a lot about where you show up you can still catch up though and one on one so catch up good wide receivers good quarterback should win 90 percent on one on one there's no past rush there are no passing lanes everything's perfect timing perfect routes when you are a top flight corner like sauce is and he will remind people this season I believe this is a multiple all-pro this is one of the highest paid coins in league for a reason so I can't wait to see us going at it I hate these clips from the Patriots accounts but I'm sure Shane have come up here clean a lot is up pretty loud from the accounts I don't know how many fans are there I don't know where their training camp is but it felt like there was a lot of Patriots fans there I like the atmosphere I like the environment that's happening in plenty of NFL training camps including Green Bay obviously we saw them 50,000 plus on their family spring night or whatever the hell it was their family night sells out every year AJ yep since he's been there he got drafted in 2005 5 5 6 he said sold out every single special stuff happening in Green Bay and then the floor comes out in interview and says you know Jordan loves the best I've ever been around when it comes to dissecting defenses and blitzes and where the trouble is and everything like that so obviously everybody goes all right okay so Jordan love is better at dissecting defenses than Aaron Rogers is that what the floor saying maybe and the and the floor saying yeah that is exactly what I said now is the floor saying when it comes to my offense because we know Aaron and the floor was an interesting thing because Aaron ran Aaron's offense which has been the same offense that he's run his entire career which he is now running with McCarthy yet again in Pittsburgh but I think he was a little bit hesitant to just jump all the way in on the floor hey this person's run a post this person's running a go you snap the ball if post isn't open that means it goes open no other think he's how Aaron described it that is right how Aaron kind of was talking about it and how Tom Brady I think we'll talk about this modern NFL quarterback and everything like that then our lofty comes in and says well the amount of decisions they have to make within the system is also something that you have to be sharp and smart but It's a different than what it used to be in quarterbacks. Used to look around, break down what it is, change an entire play on one side, do something on the backside. That's not really what the younger modern NFL is versus the old days. So the floor in Aaron, I think, had a little bit of a difference of like, hey, instituting what play when? I think what the floor was saying with my system, I've never seen somebody do what he does. And I think I was a massive compliment to Jordan Love. I don't think he was trying to bury Aaron in the moment. I think he was trying to put up and pick up Jordan Love. Ty, you as owner of the Green Bay Packers, what are your thoughts? Yeah, I didn't take it as a slight at all because like you said, when Rodgers first got there, it was widely known. He was on the show at the time too. Like, that was still a lot of what he liked to do. Like, we really didn't get the full effect of La Flore's offense until Rodgers was already gone and it was love. So yeah, that makes sense that this is the only offense he's ever played in. And obviously, you're going to gas up your starting quarterback. They need him to make a massive jump this season. That's been a lot of the conversation was, hey, they need to take the reins off Jordan Love. They want to go win a Super Bowl. It can't be kind of just, hey, let's manage him and make sure he doesn't make a mistake. So I took it the same way. He has a lot of confidence in Jordan Love in a no way. Do I think it was a slight at Rodgers saying like, hey, Jordan Love's smarter than Rodgers. He's better at reading defensive than Rodgers. I don't think it was that. And I mean, La Flore is smart enough to know what the response would be if he was serious saying something like that. So yeah, I just took it all as a compliment towards Jordan Love. I like everybody's point ever, Jordan Love. I absolutely love that. I also like the fact that Green Bay Packers get Michael Parsons and Dallas Cowboys, obviously get some picks. Then they make a move to get Quentin Williams, who becomes a guy that Jared Jones says, phenomenal leader, this guy. Ain't worried about none of the other bullshit. He's a man, he's an adult, he's a guy. I love what he brings. Every day he shows up, every day, every day, every guy knows that he is often running. So we're gonna pay him $63.5 million right now whenever he signs. And we're gonna give him another 100 million on top of that Quentin Williams. Congratulations on the deal with Jared Jones. - Wow, thank you. - Remember, Michael Parsons getting a deal with Dallas was never gonna happen. - They had a handshake deal in place with Michael. But when he wanted to negotiate, I said, I don't think so. - That's not how we do things around here, Michael. - So we're gonna go ahead and send you the hell out of here, Green Bay. Go ahead, you don't like Dallas. Let's send you to Green Bay, see how it is up there. Green Bay loves him. He comes defensive MVP candidate up there, gets paid massively, he gets hurt. Green Bay Packers, defense suffers, the entire season suffers. He's back, hopefully they're often running doing incredible things. He's saying a lot of stuff. - Yes, and you know what? I will pound the drum for everything. Michael says, I love that guy. He can say whatever the fuck he wants to. - I'm a Michael. - But it's more as lately. - Yeah, I am as well. Especially when Jerry says all these things about Quentin and how great he is. But then he listen to Michael talk about Michael. And then he says this and he thinks yourself, I don't know how Jerry didn't want that guy in the building. - Yeah, and I don't even think it's just about pastures. I'm thinking about it's commanding all defensive front. Like the way I set it up, I can dictate the slides, know where the slides going, understand protections. I think I'm above IQ than every Russian elite. I don't like, I've learned from the best between Danzen, Hathley, like I really understand football at a way better level. So it allows me to, you know, use those abilities that I haven't seen no one else do. - So above IQ, that's what gets you 140 some mill. That's what gets you in the defensive MVP combo. And that's what has owners of the packers saying, man, we love that guy. - Yeah, I'd take a bullet for that guy. He is above IQ. He'll always be above IQ in my book. He can, Michael can say whatever the hell he wants. Listen, I haven't had to deal with any of the Dallas stuff with, oh no, he's going on his podcast again and he's fucking ripping our start and quarterback. Why is he doing that? He hasn't done any of that stuff yet. - Not just loves feet. - Well, and what's wrong with that? Not the wrong big deal. - Not the wrong with that. - Big deal. - He's just saying, whoa, what was wrong? Did you see him put out those one high heels that have the fake toes? - Yes, I did. - Yeah, I draw a line somewhere. - Yeah, yeah, this is treasonous. - Exactly. - Yeah, he said it was dot ballacle. That's really all we've heard of, Michael. Michael's just been working his ass off to get back. He was very comfortable in Green Bay. And it feels like Quinnon, very comfortable in Dallas. Dallas, very comfortable with Quinnon. I feel like this entire trade now has worked out perfectly for both sides, all parties. And we can't congratulate people enough because whenever it happened, it was loud. There's a lot of things said. And then now that it's kind of all come to fruition, it's like everybody kind of wins. Trade for NATO says, Stephen Jones, way to go. (clapping) Now, Masi over there with the Jets, they're saying he's plans to get traded at Jets. - He's working. - Who knows what's going to happen over there. New York Jets, obviously, in the middle of a maker breakier, again, with a new coaching staff. Literally, the entire staff is new, about the head coach. Dallas Cowboys, hopefully in it. Green Bay Packers, hopefully in it, joining us now. Live from his training camp tour in which there's only one stop left. This man left his family on July 27th and said, I'm gonna go to a training camp every single day. Today, he is currently in the beautiful state of Arizona with the Cardinals. Ladies and gentlemen, Junior NFL insider for ESPN, Ian Rappaport. (clapping) - Yeah, baby Junior. - Baby Junior. - Okay. - What's that? What's going on? - Man, it looks like you're loud. Live from Big Bird, Red Bird. What are they called? Big Red. - Red? - Red, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's one of those places. - A lot of parts. - Now it's in Pat. You face time here before to set this up. Did you notice anything about my hotel room? A lot of people haven't seen this kind of thing. It was a presidential suite. - Whoa. - It was a president. - The junior president's in. - At the Lucky Cup? - No, no. It was the presidential suite. And you haven't seen that. I know you haven't seen that a lot. It was a special. I mean, I've been on the road a lot. That was a special situation. And I was really appreciative. And I wanted to make sure you took note of that. - Okay, I'm at, we'll have that on the record. Obviously, we will talk about you staying in a presidential junior suite. Now, a lot of layoffs just happened. So, I don't know if we should be bragging about presidential suites in people's faces, but maybe this was the Arizona Cardinals, though. Is this the Arizona Cardinals? I believe Bidwell actually did this. - It just did this, yeah. A wedding or a newlywed couple or something. - Yeah, like a room or something. And he said, no problem, you got it, gave up his room. They're building a practice facility over there. He's staying in presidential junior suites. Wait a second, Arizona Cardinals on the up and up. I thought this was a Yabba-Dabba. Do scrape it from the bottom type organization. Is it going in a different direction at this moment? Do we feel, actually, I'm asking that is a real question. - I think it's headed in the right direction. They hope. I mean, talent wise, like I've always felt, if you look around this roster, I've always felt that it has far more talent than the record. I mean, last year, especially on defense, they played so bad. But then you look at the individual players, and there are, I mean, just 22, right? Good enough players to win games. And the fact that they got a new coach in Michael Four, came out in the Hall of Fame game, which it's the Hall of Fame game, I understand. But they kind of looked good, kind of looked efficient. Definitely looked like they knew what they were doing. Operation looked really solid. And, I mean, we're going to talk to Jeremiah Love in a little bit today, but I mean, it sounds like he has been what they had hoped. They got playmakers all around, gonna one of the best tight ends in the NFL. I mean, this should be a much improved team. And last year, I think just by the end, they were done, done, effort wise, they should be better. Like, I would say it is, it's a hard division, but it is kind of looking up. - Okay, well, good luck to the Cardinals. We obviously are hoping for them. McBride's a dog, an absolute beast. I think we like the "The Floor." I think we like the "The Floor." I'd be around them for like 10, 15 minutes at the World Cup game. After I got done talking to Tom Cruise. - No, he didn't. - Oh, what? - That's where this guy was near, though. - Wow, let's talk about that, though. He was on the-- - Sure point. - And the room there. I feel like I like his vibe. I like his mentality. I like the fact that they got Carson Beck doing with Carson Beck's already doing an Hall of Fame game and in practice. So, maybe the Cardinals are a conversation piece of the future over there in the NFC West, which is stacked and loaded. Speaking of, let's talk about where you were yesterday. Go ahead, Tone. That wrap you were with the 49ers yesterday. Obviously, the story of their offseason or training camp has been injuries so far. But one that I feel like we haven't heard a ton about is Nick Bosa. And it's been like a week since he's been at practice. What's going on there? And what was your kind of takeaway from a 9ers' camp yesterday? - Yeah, I mean, first of all, you're right. Like so much of the story is like, who is not practicing yesterday? No McCaffrey dealing with some tightness. So it's like, not a big deal, okay. But I would say generally, except for Ricky Piro, so who we know is out for the season. Like, I didn't get the sense any of these injuries, including Nick Bosa is, you know, I didn't get the sense any of them or something where they don't think the player will be their week one. Like, Bosa's dealing with some soreness. The obviously he's coming off the torn ACL, but he's pretty far clear from that. I think it's more of my sense, just from the Nick Bosa situation, is more of him trusting in need that feels a little different. You know, and just getting used to that, it's not going to be like it was. And this is, you know, it's a second ACL. And it just, from what I've never done this, but from what I understand, talking to players who've done it, it just doesn't feel normal. Even if doctors are telling you, you are fine. He's just got to get comfortable with that. To my understanding, that's the process he's going through. - Yeah, the mental hurdle is always difficult after getting injured 'cause you don't want to re-injure it. Also, it doesn't feel the exact same. We assume Bosa'd be able to do that. They got a lot of guys, though, kind of on G-Days or in and over there. Hopefully they just get to season and kind of get started. We have some breaking news for you, Junior. Senior's reporting. Collar has officially been named - Wow. - Start calling back one, - Wow. - set it up like this. - Congratulations, Collar. - Interest. - Good care. - Okay, now there's been some mixed reporting on how each quarterback had been doing in training camp. We hadn't seen a lot of videos. We'd only been able to see tweets from people that were spectators at Minnesota. sort of Vikings training camp. They were both getting one's reps. Every once in a while, we'd see, Tyler did something good. Then JJ did something good. Then Tyler did something else. Then JJ did something else. I'll tell you what, if you're to score this, it would be a split decision on who's actually gonna be the starter. So, will they remain with the guy that they drafted, very high, or the guy that they brought in in a big, celebrational free agent? Well, Tyler Murray is now the starting quarterback for the team in which he was a fan of as a child. You know, there's photos of him as a kid wearing a Minnesota Vikings jerseys. And we all fantasize about Kevin O'Connor offense with the talent of Tyler Murray. Now it looks like we're gonna get a chance to see that. How long's the lease? What all will Tyler be able to do? If things go wrong, will JJ McCarthy be doing the JJ McCarthy Giffin meme, right over his shoulder? I guess that's for you to answer now, rap sheet, as we get an announcement of who the starter is for the Vikings live in real time. Yeah, I mean, first of all, I would say the hope when the Vikings signed Tyler Murray in free agency was that this would happen, right? That was the hope. Like he was their top choice in free agency. They were his top choice. You really thought that like when he went out there, if he just played like he's capable and like, he has been a more than adequate starter in the NFL. And just last year, you know, it fell apart because the injury situation, but the hope was that this would be the case, that he would come out, reestablish himself being the system which has basically had every quarterback be successful and that he would end up being the starter. I mean, it sounded like, you know, competition wise, they pushed each other, but it just really felt like how it was a little bit ahead. And I think, you know, for the Vikings who've had a revolving door at quarterback for the last several years, doing this now, getting it out there just helps them, just he gets all the reps now, that's it. And now, you know, the other question is, what happens to J. Jim McCarthy? Does he stay, does he want out? Is he comfortable being the backup and waiting his time? I mean, there's a lot of questions about where it's going because, you know, talking about viral, the most viral clip of him was talking about how like, you know, him and Kyle were on two opposite sides of the classroom just kind of functioning parallel paths. - No. - That's nothing, that's nowhere near the most viral. - The most, yeah. - Yeah. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's the most viral. - But I understand what you're saying. When it comes to this competition, yeah, I get what you're saying now. - So like, can they co-exist, I would be curious if they could co-exist together? I mean, I just, and this is really for J.J. to decide how comfortable he is being the backup and waiting. - What do you mean? - Baby, you got a job as an NFL quarterback. You didn't win the starting job. Now you're the backup. What do you, he like, he hasn't, in my opinion, he hasn't earned the right job. I'll get me out of here. - Yeah, that would be very J.J. Wow. - Yeah, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be. - This is nine, no, bro. You don't know how nine's going to roll. - No, why not? - Every day we've heard J.J. McCarthy, he's, you know, he's a good guy. He's a movie company. - Good football guy. Is he a great quarterback? No, not yet, but I don't see that coming. But, a lot of untapped potential still for Colin Murray. - So that would be the, oh, it's for Colin Murray. - Yeah. - As we wrap up with J.J. Trade bait, would people trade for J.J. at this point? You think 'cause he said untapped potential with Colin and Kevin O'Connell, we agree on that. But I think a lot of people would see J.J. potentially untapped talent. Harbaugh said it was the best workout he's ever seen, right? - Yeah, best quarterback's workout he's ever seen. - Would this be? - You think how many people would wanna change? - That's weird though, I would think. If you have a legit quarterback who isn't worried about, who's behind him, you can really come in and develop him. Kind of how Daniel Jones went and developed Sam Darnan went and developed behind some other established guys. But I don't see like a coach latching himself in his future to J.J. McCarthy at this point. I don't know, maybe rap should you. - No, it doesn't have to be 'cause if you're gonna, look, first of all, let me say this, I do not know if the Vikings would trade J.J. 'Cause the only question now is, he's gonna be the backup. The question now is, if something happens to Kyler, is he your best option moving forward, right? 'Cause the Vikings are a team that I think is going to be in it. - Carson Wentz is out there. - Carson Wentz out. - Yeah, the Wentz experience is one that we got to experience internationally last year. - He has played well enough to give you confidence that if you had to play, he'd be okay or maybe better. So that's what I'm saying. So like if you're a team who liked J.J. coming out, it actually might make some sense to say like, maybe we'll just trade for him and develop him. I mean, Daniel Jones is a fantastic example of when he went to the Vikings a couple years ago. - Trinity Lance is having with Dallas, right? - Yeah. - 'Cause they liked him coming out and they're like, we could potentially develop him. - Yeah. - He happened with him. - But that is the other thing too. Like we always say, Dan Jones and Sam Darnel and Baker Mayfield and things like that. Like that could happen, but also like, he could just never work out. Like this just happens a lot, you know? Drake, isn't it? - And it sucks and you look at that QB class. Like it's a very, very good class with Caleb and Jaden and Drake May and Pentax and stuff. But and who knows what Pentax still, but sometimes it just doesn't work out. - Well, on that note about one of the members of that quarterback class. I don't know if you've heard update out of the Colts Pats joint practices. - Yeah. - Drake Mays thrown picks all over the world. - Really? - No. - Okay. - Okay. - Okay. - Oh my God. - Oh, boom. - And then Cambodum, the Goopsy, whoops, the Goopsy, goopsy. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Profan Logan's out here saying, Cambodum just picked off Drake May towards the end of practice. - Oh, there it is. - It was a movie. - That's all you need to see those towards the end of practice 'cause Drake May by then was probably like, oh, all right, watch this, he's a good guy. Now he's a great man. Let me just say that about Drake May. And so he probably said, let me get you one here. I am playing on Thursday. I'll give you one here, Cambodum. Also a great man. He's probably threw him one real nice and easy ended on a high note even though Stakens coming on a little. - I like the Drake's doing that for us. - Drake May is one of the best men that I have never seen heard and watched by a football player. - Well, I know, Cambodum is also one of the best men that we've got whenever it comes to energy and juice. I'm happy he's getting his hands on the ball early, especially on MVP candidate. Connor has a question for you on that note. - Yeah, speaking of that team, Jr., unfortunately today was the first time Purchase Gonzalez has not practiced or participated with all the contract stuff going on. You got referenced on Hard Knocks last week with the Witherspoon deal and kind of basically (laughing) not setting out fake information, but who knows, Schneider didn't seem too happy. What is the situation with those two? It seems like those are the next two corners to get paid witherspoon and Gonzo. Should I be worried that this is happening as a Patriots fan? Are these deals gonna get done before the season? What is kind of the expectation here? - All right, so well, first of all, last thing is I gonna run and do some TV on the other network on a second, but I answer this. So it was interest, I do not know. I wanna be quiet. I do not know what Christian Gonzalez was not in practice today. But it's interesting to me that yesterday they greeted terms with Hunter Henry on a new contract extension. And then the next day Christian Gonzalez is not practicing. Now, as far as the Witherspoon, they're still in kind of a standoff trying to get that done. That's in a more advanced state than the Christian Gonzalez deal is. So nothing happens at a vacuum. I think there's a good chance Witherspoon gets done. I think I don't know about Gonzalez, whether it's gonna be this year or next year, but the timing is certainly something that I took note of today and is interesting. - Let's get you some vitamin C on this travel. It's good luck on an info network. Quickly, the challenge flag changes. How many coaches are gonna give that up? I would say rough estimate, 46%. - Okay. - Wow. - We appreciate your presentation. That's your junior NFL insider for ESPN and NFL Networking and Rappable. - Yeah, Rappable. - Well, what we're talking about there is a little tweak to some rules that get amended for the NFL. Now, there is meetings where the league and the owners all gather in one place. It's normally a spectacle. We got chance to go out the air. - Yeah, incredible. - Absolutely beautiful. They vote on things, they learn about things or stash on, there's presentations. You know, it's everything you think of some corporate retreat if the NFL would be. And they vote on rules and make changes. But then every once in a while, conversations happen there. And then it lingers a little bit. And then the NFL has the ability to tweak some rules going into the season. It's happened in the past with multiple other ones. This year, guess what? Somebody else, other than a coach, could not throw a challenge flag. - Oh, you, I can't wait. - Hey, coach, you used to have to have that thing. Remember, there was always a nice cut up of some, you know, old nose with coaches trying to find which pocket they have it in. And I think Bella Check used to put it down in the sock, I believe there's a back pocket, there's a front pocket, there's people that forget it. And they have to send their assistant into their locker room to get it. I mean, the challenge flag has obviously become a topic of conversation because it has, I think, made the game better. You know, I think it has certainly added a little bit entertainment, a little pizzazz, especially whenever the coaches throw that thing, spike that thing, drop that thing, pout that thing. All these types of throws are a big deal. Now, somebody else has a lot to do it as well. - Ooh. - So you start to wonder to yourself, who will be a same challenge flagger, and who will probably be a new challenge flagger? So we took the top 10 success percentages in the NFL from last season and put them on, this probably could be the same flagger situation. Now, the bottom 10 are on the far side there, probably a new flagger situation over there. So as you look at the list, you think to yourself, you know what, they will probably have some expert in the field who will have eyes on the reviewer, and eyes on the replay, and they will take the decision making out of the coach's mind. But on the left side there with the same flaggers, it's gonna be tough to get that flag out of the coach's hand. They're throwing a hot bat out here. Shane Stuykin, six of eight. - That's pretty good. - Six of eight, that's 75%. Now, will Shane say, the person that tells me to do this should be the one that's actually doing it, so I don't even have to worry about that, maybe. But I think Shane maybe says, I'll tell you what, I think that's a stinkin' bad call man. I think Shane's that-- - He's not afraid to throw that thing. - No, time's he'll let that thing fly. Chiefs from, okay, now this is from the NFL record in stats book. Okay, so you see some of these teams like Chiefs. They only had to use one challenge flag and they're like, - Well of course, it's 'cause of ref on their side. - Yeah, that's true. - But then it's like, yeah, but Andy Reed feels like he would cardinals, you know, a couple times. Some other people one time, it's like, that doesn't feel right. The expedited reviews that have come into the league over the last year. I think those technically do count as a review success for a team. These from the NFL record in stats book are coaches throwing flag, having to challenge it even after the expedited review, that makes sense. The expedited review, I think what we're seeing with these stats, because this is nowhere near the amount of challenges that we assumed all these teams are have to be doing. I think the expedited review process has been a success. I think that has been something that has mitigated a lot of this. I think it has kept the game moving. I think that person up in the top, relaying right down to the ref. Hey, be casual, move this ball, this is not a problem. You made a mistake, we fixed it in real time. I liked that the refs had dropped their egos enough to say, okay, we'll let somebody make a correction even though our eyes didn't see the same thing. I think the NFL is working on making it better. How do you feel, D-Butt, about the multiple flaggers and where we are now when it comes to challenges and reviews and all of that type of thing? - I think it would be cool. We talk about getting some new cut ups. We always talk about the head coaches looking for their flags. Then we saw, I would say a few years ago, the get back coaches on each team having the guy assigned, usually a strength coach. Somebody in that department to keep back people on the sideline and the head coach. So now I'm sure we'll get some cut ups off whoever this alternate flag throw it is. But yeah, I'm with you. I'm surprised that, you know, what is it? One, two, three, four, team, five teams that only used it once. That's shocking in 17 games. That's crazy to see. That's a very, very surprising. - Hey, congrats for the refs. - Yeah, yeah, good work. - Huh, nope, hey. - And they got a new deal. - Yes, they did. Thank God for that. - Thank God. - We are very happy we got that deal done. That was a huge deal getting done. 'Cause the replacement refs. - We saw the arena. That'd be times fifth the arena title game. - I don't know, I saw an alternate angle. - Did you find one, finally? - Some people that were at the Nashville Cats game right down the line, they took the photo. He was nowhere. - Sure? - Yeah, as soon as he took out our video. - It was photo. They could have moved it, obviously, 'cause I think people are doing a Lino Messy's pants. - Wow. - Yeah, if people can mess with photos, obviously. Nashville Cats, oh, no, Albany goes for it. Big goal on stand. The Nashville Cats are arena. Super duper ball champion. - Yeah. - Goal on stand, the winner title. - Estesia. - Wow. - No, they moved it out. - It's over the defensive line. - Yeah, there are Indians though. - Yeah, they shot the backfield so quickly. - Yeah, they moved the pile, but that's gonna pay attention. - Cubes 5.8. - That's called leverage. - Yeah, we know it. It's Povey, right? - Yeah, it's Povey. - That's not Diego Povey. - And he's not Povey. - He's not in the arena league. That is disgusting what we just did. - I just said Povey, it's a lot of Povey. - Actually, you're right. We met all of her. - Hey, yeah. - This year during the safe. Could have been one of the brothers. For sure, I assume that one of the Povey brothers could play quarterback in the arena league. And I'll tell you what coach, you can't get in from the half yard line. You don't deserve the winner title. - That's right. - So congrats on Nashville Cats getting that thing done. And who would have thought a renal league title comes down a grand and a pound football? - They're playing both sides, so their defense is a little tired. - You got to be able to run the rock and you got to be able to stop the run if you want to win a title. It doesn't matter if it's on Sundays, Saturdays, or in Barnes, okay? - Exactly. - You got to be able to do that in football, amen. That is really what it is. - Packed Barnes. Speaking of football, I'm being told by the NFL films people, okay? This doesn't always happen, especially with hard knocks 'cause they understand what has happened to hard knocks with the advancements of access that teams have been given now on social media and digital content and everything like that. Hard knocks used to be the only real look inside NFL building for fans, used to be it. That's why I was so groundbreaking, trailblazing, phenomenal stuff. Things that we never thought we'd be able to see, we were able to see with hard knocks. One of bunch of awards, then it kind of says of that. - Yeah. - And every team they picked sucked. - Yeah. - And they became a curse. - Yes. - Then teams didn't want them. Then they tried an off season one. And the giants did everything wrong that you could possibly won. - Oh boy. - Unless you were watching. - Unless you were a fan of another team. - Yes. - Then you thought to yourself, there's no way that's happening in hard building. And Joe Shane said, they're like, "Jesus, I mean these are tough decisions. "Everybody would be nice to be able to do this." So we thought hard knocks potentially dead and gone forever. I'm getting a lot of text from people. First time in years, I'd say. - Okay. - Tonight's episode of hard knocks. They're saying it's one of the best ones they've ever. - Really? - Yes. That is actual. It's a weird text to receive from these people. Keith's Senate, two other people in the building of semi-random text messages that said, "We think you guys will talk about hard knocks on Wednesday. "Tuesday's episode's very good." - Huh. - Okay. - So that is-- - What could happen? - The teaser they put out was pretty solid. - So they sent me a couple clips. But I didn't know if those clips had already been out. So I don't know. They told me we could show them yesterday, but we missed them yesterday 'cause they sent me the clips after our show had ended basically. So I don't know if the clips have already made it out. There's a, as this made it out yet. - I haven't seen that one. - Offensive lineman, defensive lineman. - I have not seen that one. - Two sledge hammers. - No, I have not seen that. - In front of the entire team. - So my quits? - Yeah, so somebody's arms give up. - That's awesome. - Yeah, that's awesome. - It was. - Come on, that's Red Rover Red Rover. - No, it becomes electrified. - Yeah, that's sweet. I mean-- - I think it was-- - I think it was. - So there's two rookies, four sledge hammers up there. Offensive lineman hold 'em, defense lineman hold 'em. And these two lads put on a performance. I mean, it is, and obviously showcases their environment. - What a spot. - I think it showcases football culture pretty good too, because immediately at the beginning, you can tell the boys a little boring, okay? And then all of a sudden they start cracking, and then obviously offense is taken on defense. So one side, I'll say, starts looking bad earlier, okay? - So much shit, Tom. - But that does not mean it's over. - Oh, no. - Like, sometimes when your arms start shaking, it doesn't mean you're like losing. It just means like, hey, everything's kind of straining. Does not mean you're gonna lose automatically. Some people watching things, as soon as the shaking starts happening, all he's dead, it's like, no, some people, kind of that's just what their muscles naturally start to do. So obviously that starts happening. So immediately, it's like, oh! And then all of a sudden the other side has a little drop, and then you hear them, he's done! Then he started motivating, I mean, it became-- - Just quit! - It felt like that was one of the times where I was like, man, I wish, I wish I was in a room. So hard knocks might have, from my understanding, from what they are texting me personally, they think tonight's episode is a good one from the company I saw it looked awesome. And I think McDonald's run the hell of an outfit for sure. - I think he's running a really good outfit out there. I think he is somebody that I'm excited to learn about through these hard knocks, but also I think the way he goes about doing his shit. He's a defensive guru, young gun. You know, we know McVeigh, who's an offensive guru. That, that, that, that, that. It's like McDonald's defensive, hard-nosed guy, but similar type mindset. And it's like, they've had one, or they've already won, so the proof's into putting. It's like, you got to buy with this guy selling, 'cause what he's been able to do. And you can tell the team's filled with dogs out there. This is good for the Seahawks, I think hard knocks is. I don't think the hard knocks curse is necessarily going to be the case here. And the hard knocks before saying tonight's a good one. - Yeah, I mean, picking a team like the Seahawks is a good move if you kind of want to eliminate the curse from the get-go, the defending Super Bowl champions, we assume they're going to be good. The clip I saw was between Mike McDonald and Mitch Johnson, the head coach at the Spurs, and they were going back and forth. And McDonald was basically just telling him how he builds the team, how he goes about building the culture every year. And it was really sweet, 'cause it was kind of like a glimpse into how he goes about doing things. And it didn't seem like just like the normal cookie cutter bullshit responses you get normally. And you could see Mitch Johnson, like anytime he says something, he's like, oh, wow, I really like that. I'm gonna use that. And like, going back and then they start talking about Wembee, like it was, it was fascinating. Yeah, I think that's what, I think there's this type of shit. I think there's a team shit. I think there's probably good highlight stuff to fight against. Maybe Hard Knock's got a little fastball of that. - That's great news, 'cause I've always been a fan of Hard Knocks. Obviously, being in the locker room, you see it, you lived it, but seeing other buildings, I always was intrigued on seeing how other buildings operate it. And you see the good, the bad and ugly from Hard Knocks. We all remember, or can't remember people getting cut and seeing their future. We saw head coach Kevin O'Connor get cut on the Hard Knocks. You see how people, you know, respond to it all. You see guys that kind of come from obscurity and then become stars in NFL as well. So seeing this team, I think we always talk about how Seattle doesn't get enough coverage. They're so far in the Pacific Northwest that they don't get that spotlight on them. So a lot of names that you may not know, may know, but personalities you don't. Witherspoon, Nicki and Rory, you know, Leonard Williams. Like, these are stuff, these are superstars. And now you'll see more of their personality. So I'm excited to tap in tonight. - Yeah, I am too. That's very, there's a cool text to read. - Yeah, that's rare. - They obviously put a lot of effort into this. - Oh, yeah. - The NFL films people are not sleeping, okay? So they are, they wear the, they're pretty thin. - Yeah, I mean. - Turn of these episodes around quick. - Yeah, but not just this episode. They got some other documentary. They had to do all the Hall of Fame stuff. I mean, the NFL films people are very committed to their shit. So then for them all to be pretty jacked up. Different departments here now saying, hey, we like this one. I'm excited for it. - I operate like, a lot of people say their 33rd franchise. Like, and I'm in there every week during the football season. So when they were doing, I don't know if they're still doing it the end season. You know, they had like an area. They just build up, you know, different offices and cubicles for guys, you know, putting in night shit. Guys, guys putting in night shit. Putting that shit together. Like, so they work their asses off. I'm excited to see. - Yeah, I can't wait to watch tonight. I also can't wait to catch up with the man who's joining us now. Live from Foxboro. - Yeah. Fresh off of his can buy them picking off Drake may and these joint practices from my understanding Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts Shane Stikin Shane Oh, yeah, I heard yeah, I heard there's a lot of fans So I've been watching a lot of highlights from the Patriots social media don't love that But it did sound like there's a lot of fans there. How has the excitement been how did the day go? It was great. It was a lot of back and forth. The energy was phenomenal out here So you got to hold that Shane Shane you got to hold that phone up. We're staring up your nose. You got to hold that phone up Gotcha. I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Can't be staring up your nose all the time back for the Colts back for the Colts Good for show. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. What was the energy like what it was like and joint practice their first time? It was phenomenal. Like I said a lot of back and forth started off with some one-on-one Then when it's some team period. It's got some good work in the red zone, you know finished with a two-minute drill What you just hit so a lot of good back and forth. Okay, we saw a lot of highlights coming from the Patriots social media Obviously Colts social media waiting to put a little pizzazz. Was there some things that either worried you today or you learned today? Well, I got to go back and watch I was on the offensive field and then Braves was on their offensive field So I got to go back and watch some of the stuff But I thought there was a lot of good. You know our offense at the two-minute drive thought Dana did a hell of a job You know going down there was a once one score game We had one time out went down hit some big plays the Tyler and then hit downs for a touchdown there at the end was good Okay, we like that Alex Pierce obviously not playing we got an update from him He did not get a second shot after his surgery. He's rehabbing still hoping to be back by week one We hope you have your entire ensemble of weapons. What do you learn from these camps? Are you looking at like the depth of their roster too? Will you look at the bottom half of their roster? Is there working out like how much of that happens in these joint practices? Yeah, I think so. I think when you go back and evaluate the tape I think you look at everything you know you look at their side of the ball our side of the ball But really we just want to get good work in and get better That's what these joint practice are for going against another opponent. It breaks up camp. It's great for our players Okay, Shane. Can you tell me about how you avoid fights feels like this inevitable? Yep Yeah, I think the biggest thing is is the message is in the team meeting before you got to practice Hey, we're not fighting. We're not starting any shit. It's gonna be a good practice We got to get good work in and if you do fight you're gonna get kicked out of practice playing in simple Okay, is that a kind of a league wide messaging or is everybody kind of got that note because it does feel like these joint Practices just turn into a melee every single time Yeah, I think I think most teams have that message But sometimes it gets a little testy and there is some melee's and you know, it gets competitive as crazy You know like hell out there So but we kept it pretty clean today. There's no fights. You talked about that two minute with Tyler Warren go ahead tone Yeah, coach. There was tweets out there that Tyler Warren did feasts today. How huge is it to see him go from his rookie year to his second year And he obviously knows the playbook a lot better now. He's time with Daniel Jones is a lot more now How's it feel Tyler Warren out there today the tweets about him feasting and how's he looked? Yeah, he looks phenomenal. He's having a hell of a camp right now You know, just trying to get the matchups with him anyway. We can find different ways to use them And girl from there. Like I said, he's just a tremendous player that we try to you know get him the ball anyway. We can't do you? Yes, we do Okay, all right. I sort of make sure you in our last conversation. I was just wondering if we were enough feeding the Sasquatch-looking guy that we have I think I think you let our team in Targets Pat last year I want to make sure that's the case hey new rule happened today I don't know if you heard maybe Conti will tell you on the other side go ahead Yeah, coach, they're kind of changing the instant replay challenge flag situation where you can now designate One person to be that kind of person that throws the flag you were one of the best in the league last year when it came to challenges I think you were hitting out of 75% right? Yeah, there it is six of eight on the year and you challenge and use it more than most How does that process go when you are challenging a play and do you see yourself maybe given that you know duty to someone else throughout the season? Yeah, I think that's a great question the obviously I saw this come up yesterday and kind of put some thought into it a little bit and You know obviously the guy that's up in the box, you know looking for the challenges whether there's a catch no catch whatever it may be You know getting it from him you know obviously the head coach is probably the one that's got to say yeah I'm don't throw in it So I think the communication piece has got to be on point So I think it is quicker for the head coach to throw the flag down because if not you know You got to go up in the box and he's talking hey wherever you want to throw it and then you got to communicate to the guy on the sidelines The throw it in every second counts in this league. So maybe they get the flag out late and that's two seconds because you had to okay it and Now you didn't get the challenge off in time. Yeah, that sounds like a guy who's saying I'll throw the flag Yeah, I'll throw the flag. That's what it sounds like And then here's the other flip side of it. I was thinking of this like it's got to be very clear and obvious like if you do have someone else throw it I was just thinking like that that trust has got to be so heavy involved with the guy upstairs and the guy downstairs to where The coach isn't really thinking about it and the guy upstairs says hey challenge it and that he doesn't hesitate and he throws it So you could go that way too as well. So I don't know what teams are gonna do So it'll be interesting to see it all play out. Yeah, I like you you get a little pissed off though I like you got a lot of spunk. I'd say on the side He was that what you call it spunk on the sideline? Juice little juice, but I would say this too when I do throw a flag. I like to throw it flat down on the ground So it's not hanging in the air too high. Yeah, you just get that thing down quick. Yeah, because when it hits the ground That's when the challenge actually takes place when it's in the process of following you might not get it off If they go to replay which I respect also it feels like the expedited reviews have helped this out a lot because not as many Challenges around the league as we would have expected now. Let's talk about you having an MVP potentially back. Go ahead Ty Yeah coach, I think going into this year a lot of people were concerned with just how Daniel Jones would look coming off a massive injury Like in a kill. He's like that, but early on it looks like he's a hundred percent. He looks completely healthy Are you kind of just cutting him loose or does part of you feel like you kind of got to keep the governor on him a little bit just to make sure Hey, we want this guy to be completely healthy come week one Yeah, I think you know he I've said this many times, but he attacked his rehab the right way and he feels really good right now And so the playbooks open right now, and obviously we're in controlled environments and practice But he is gaining that strength and that all that stuff with what comes along with the energy and he's looks really really good so far I really have had you know concerns up to this point. It's only getting stronger Okay, you announced earlier today that he would not be playing in any of the preseason games great happy to be a season ticket holder Okay, all right. Yeah, let's get him to start. Let's get him the regular season. Okay, let's get him the regular season That's right. Yeah, Mike Mike rice who covers the Patriots for ESPN said one view from the media tent both Patriots and Colts will likely be pleased with overall practice 21st team reps valuable and controlled competitive environment, but Patriots top units didn't finish strong into miniatural Which ends things on a less inspiring note on that note? Debut has a question for you coach. Yeah coach. You talked about controlling environments. Obviously with joint practices a little less control I know as a player. I like the team drills because I'm seeing different shifts different motion motions as a coach What's your favorite part about these I guess period these joint practices the red zone one on ones inside run? Seven on seven two minute. What is it for you? I think it's the chess master going back and forth, you know, it's a controlled environment, you know They check we check. There's a lot of that stuff, especially with the starters in there And you get to go through that obviously in the film session as well and kind of play that game And I think you know quarterbacks obviously Daniel enjoys that part of it with the rest of our guys But that's what I love you love about this you know you go against your defense and training camp You know so many days in a row and now you got a chance to go against somebody else and see different looks So I love that part of it more than anything. What do we think offense looks like in the NFL this year because big Daniel told us that He's got a new wrinkle up his sleeve for San Diego. What do you think it's going to look like this year? Um, we'll see. I mean, I can't tell you that you never know how it's all going to play out And every every year in the NFL right there's going to be wrinkles. You're just going to be unique, you know, things new trends that go long around the league Uh, you got to adapt. I mean everyone's got to adapt. You can't say the same because it's always evolving I love you coach way to win up there way to win up there from what it sounds. The two minute. No, I was in a wake it Yeah, that's the game, two minutes. That's two minutes. We score in and we're about 30 nothing That wasn't a situation. Oh, that's one to one on ones and the coach won the team stuff Andrew Callahan reporting the Patriots defense allowed to 11 straight completions and Seven on seven. That's football Okay, Shane went to dial it up. Let's keep it going. That's no point. Not there. Let's go win it all. All right, fellas. I appreciate it. Yeah Yeah Uh-oh. Hey, he's the best. Yeah, seven on seven. I'll talk shit to him. Uh, he is such a super positive Okay, always like I like to let's talk about the optimists. Let's talk about the optimism here What do we need to be about the negative side or whatever? I coach you think there's a chance of Bob Bob Bob. I don't We focus on the positive here. That's what he framed like such a coach mentality We got a chance to hang out with him after that flag football championship for like an hour and 10 minutes As he was peace taking a break from moving into his office, which was right next door That was the most open. I've ever talked to him. Yes. He's awesome. Oh, yeah And if they don't win this year, it's gonna be a whole new project here in Indianapolis. Yeah He's gonna go be an offensive coordinator somewhere and they're gonna win again. I mean, I mean, that's just what's gonna happen to the business He's a weapon. His records though like we he's been very unlucky. We need to win games Yeah, that is like very obvious Chris Ballard said. Mm-hmm. I'm not signing. I won't sign one. Mm-hmm. I won't sign the extension So we've got to win and as a seasoned ticket order, I appreciate it. Do you believe that, like if the if the per se daughters offered him a three year extension right now, do you think he would say that I can't in good faith sign this because we haven't won? Yeah. Excuse me. Can you please run the clip, please? This is from this training camp when he was asked that question. This is Chris Ballard asked if he would go into his final year of his contract or not. No, no, I wouldn't do one. I mean, the last year of my deal, we need to win. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's right out of the coach's match. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I know what he said. I remember that. And I kind of reacted the same way. Do you believe that is my question? Yes, it does. That's a great thing to say. I love it. We need to win, dammit. They're saying, you know what, coach, we can go like Baker said, I'm this year. Yeah. Did you smell it? Because I could kind of smell the snake oil. No. For some reason, it did just feel a little gasoline in here. I disagree with that. I saw Chris Ballard this weekend celebrating Venetary. How'd it go, you guys? You guys talk? Yeah. Good chatter with him. And he was talking to Bill Pulling. I actually got a selfie with him and Bill Pulling in there, two general managers, obviously back-to-back. It was, it was kind of, well, then Griggs and, you know, he was not there. But they, they, they are certainly there, chitchatting about, you know, the past and the future, and the present, certainly. And I think Chris Ballard is obviously a very, boom. There's the lads. Right there. This weekend. Boom. That's just a couple days ago. That's Bill Pulling in, Hall of Famer. That's why he's wearing a gold jacket. Okay. This isn't like you just wear gold jackets around here. No, that's your Hall of Famer. It was someone in there who had a gold jacket. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. It was not a Hall of Famer. I, I love that move. It was very close to the color too. I'm like, who likes, or E.B., who, and he told me who he was, and I remember the name, it was before our time, the former, former coach said, what, what a move this week. I love that. Yeah, who did that? What a move. Legend. That's awesome. You should see all the Hall of Famers walking around too. Yeah. Like, and me walking right into him. It's all boys. I could see you guys, because obviously, I mean, I think that weekend is such a beautiful reminder of, like, there's levels to this shit. Oh, yeah. You know, like, I was in the back, and I'm back there wearing all black, you know, walked into the ceremony. Damn, you're late. But I did see it. Thank God. Shout to everybody making that happen. But then I go to back to take photos. Like, award shows. You get your award. Then you go to the back. They take photos. I didn't know that until the shit was happening. I see that. Hall of Famer thing. Like, you do your speech. You get inducted. Then there's back. There's like some photos that take place. I somehow ended up in the group that was going back to take photos. The people that were back there. I mean, Tyler, what up, Joe Montana, hey, how's it going, Peyton, man, what's up, Warren Sapp, Holy Hell made a ball, joke. Thanks, Warren. Appreciate that. Let me go ahead and move. Imagine me wear Yance that a room. Fucking Morton Anderson. Adam Venteter is there. Andre Johnson. Devin has to bring her. I'm just kind of looking around the room right now, and I'm like, seeing all this. Imagine me wearing a fake gold jacket. Yeah. Could you fat him? That is. I'm telling you. I'm hearing it now. That's genius. Who did that? I did not see that. I didn't know. I'll let you know. Yes, please do. That isn't amazing. Michael Block. All right. Block that you still on the senior toilet. That tracks, though. That is something Blocky would do, because he is a champion. Is that why you're saying that? Of the people. Let's talk about some other things happening. Baseball is happening right now. Scoob stinks. What's going on? Okay. Scoob will, I heard, is going to be the reason why baseball is broken forever. Scoob will, is the reason why baseball is going to be done. The Dodgers are going to win the title with four and the last five side fucking youngs. And they are going to dominate baseball like they've done over the last few years, because they expand more deferred money than everybody else. And it's not fair, damn it. Scoob will get their team. He stinks and the Tigers are really good. What the hell happened and how did this take place? Is he going to find it? Is that what everybody just assumes? He'll find it. Everybody will find it by the time the playoff come and he'll never be able to beat the Dodgers in a seven game series. Is that why it's still assumed this way or why do we just expect Scoob's to be great just because he has been in the past? Is that how this works out? Yeah. He's unbelievable. He's a two time defending Sai Young. And I think, I mean, he went from the AL to the NL. So he's probably seeing guys for the first time. So it's a little bit of, and it's, you know, new scenario, new situation, new clubhouse, all this new stuff. But like, that's the thing is like, yeah, he pitched kind of like shit last night by his standards. Dodgers still won, came back in 176. So it's one of those things where like all this stuff, they just want him to get comfortable with his new surroundings. None of this stuff matters until we get to the playoffs. He will still probably be, well, maybe not the game one starter for them in the playoffs, but he'll be game one or game two. And yeah, he, I mean, same deal. He turns the tide in the Dodgers favor massively. Are Dodgers still favorites to win at all? Yes. Like, very, very. Yep. And now how about the Tigers? They become one of the best teams in baseball since Scoob's got out of the clubhouse. What are you guys saying up there, Foxy? I don't like that at all. No, it's a dream scenario. It's exactly what we wanted as Tigers fans to send Scoobal over to the Dodgers, get something for him and then try to make a playoff from it's exactly what they're doing. This is awesome. Okay, hopefully the Tigers go on a big time run. I believe Scoob's and Skipper Roberts going to figure that out. Yeah. How show? Hey, he's still raking? Yep. Yeah, he's got, he's got bum knee though. So he hasn't been pitching. Yeah, he's not pitching, yeah. Which knee? What happened? The bomb. I think this is the bomb one. Not saying it. I'm not saying it. We're not 12 year olds. We keep going. I just want to know if it's right. We're not going to land doing with the plant one. Yeah, how? What a point. I guess it's right knee, but I don't know. Right knee. I'm thinking it's his left could be his plant leg, but you know, you, I mean, that, that right leg is where you get a lot of the power as well because you're up there on the gravitational point. Yeah, pushing off. What's this called? Left. Left hand. The bouncing left hand. Oh, the bounce point. Yeah. Balance point right here. And then I'm transferring all that shit right here in the ass. Yep. And a lot of these pictures have massive caboose big dog because then I'm sending the big dog, the dog. The dog. Yeah. I'm sending the dog through body. Through. Hey. Right there. Right. But everything's twisting on that knee. Yeah. Exactly. And same deal. They don't want him to hurt that knee further and then not be able to play at all because then whenever he's hitting that thing's on the back, right? Mm-hmm. Because he throws right. He hits lefty. Yes. So that thing's now that's on the. Now it's pushing off that thing. Oh, like that. He's still hitting him. He is still hitting. Yeah. I feel like that stick is always going to get big hits. Yeah. That's your baseball, baby. Mm-hmm. I can't wait to see the Dodgers do it again. Maybe. And then you sit on it. It's caught too young. Absolutely. Ah. Don't worry. Savannah Banana's got her back next to baseball. Oh, two is on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life. Mysteries unravel and stunning truths are revealed when 2020 investigates. Follow the clues. The evidence, the breaking new details. ABC's 2020 means true murder mystery. Shuck. If you follow True Crime in 2020, then you've got to listen to this. Subscribe now to 2020 True Crime Plus. Add free, exclusive True Crime content. Search 2020 True Crime Plus on Apple podcasts and start your free trial. Terms apply. It's captivated the nation. To many people, Luigi Mangione is a modern-day Robin Hood. People were cheering the demise of this person they'd never met. 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Now, Hall of Fame game got higher ratings than the NBA did on Christmas Day this last year. Christmas Day was the official start of the NBA season every single year. We'd see the biggest stars in the NBA on Christmas Day. We wake up in the morning, watch Christmas story. Maybe watch Santa Claus. Maybe open some gifts, have a good time and then the NBA stars from yesterday and today would carry us through until the night after a nice nap and then a night cap of whatever the hell you're doing. And the NFL had a chance to experience Christmas cup of times and he said, actually, you know what? This is gonna be ours now. Yep. And it is. Yeah. Those are three marquee matters. Big times. Packers bears. How you doing? Keep it moving. Buffalo. Bill's Josh Allen taking on AFC champion finalist Denver Broncos and Bonix and Sean Peyton. Then oh yeah, nightcap, reigning MVP, taking on reigning Super Bowl champion. Let's see what Adam Silver decide to do. We got the finals rematch between Asperers and the Nix. And I hate the fact that I love that. I'm not going to see a lot of that. No, only the beginning in that heat. No, no, no, we only see the beginning in the first half, they need to run no commercials. We need to run hurry up basketball in five minute quarters. Let's get that one done before football kicks off. Maybe started at 8 a.m. That first hour, maybe the only hour we see, is that the craziest that you wake up? You go, you open your presence, you turn on the TV, holy shit, Nix and the Spurs are playing. Wembee and Jalen runs in. No, the NBA has started. Breakfast and basketball. Oh my God genius breakfast and hoops. That's what we do. Branch ball. Oh man. Christmas gifts too. I mean, there's a chance that the NBA does become Christmas morning, because we've been trying to tell him, Eve, you need to go to Christmas Eve, we don't like what happened to you. We understand how much Christmas means to your association and to your lead. Quickly, we have watched the greats, Shaq, Kobe, Tim, MJ, Braun, Unite Steph, Ty Reese. Yeah. Where are they at? What was that? No, I agree, but he's right. I mean, it'll be a little cold day in hell before the Pacers are playing on Christmas. I don't like it. I'm not making the schedule, but it's the truth. Yeah, it's kind of, yeah. Just in the finals. Anyways, we've loved Christmas for the NBA and for sports as a whole, but they need to go to Christmas Eve. Yeah. The big bad wolf showed up and how old your way right out of relevance, the Hall of Fame game now is getting bigger numbers than what Christmas they used to get for the NBA. That's not good news. But we are appreciative of the matchups LeBron taking on the Lakers. Oh man. I want to watch that game. Me too. Put this on December 24th, please. LeBron first. LeBron first? Well, not this year. Not this year. Christmas Eve is a Thursday this year. Okay. We got some NFL games. Okay. Start next year. Boxing day. Yes. To Canada's. To Canada's Little Santa. Yeah. Little Santa. A little baby Santa. Little Santa Day. There's only one present game now. So they can have boxing day. Okay. Is that Little Santa Day boxing? No. Little Santa December 6th. There it is. Okay. NBA should have Little Santa Day. Yeah. Okay. It's December 6th. It's a big deal. Blow up. Oh. Boxing day this year would be bad too. No. Santa Day or Saturday or Monday or Thursday. Oh, no, no, no. Well, no. It's a full slate. It calls for ball pro. It's ball games. Yeah. But still, it's available. Yeah. You're watching the NBA. Joining the sound is here. Yeah. Not. That's not your NFL. There is Jay Butler. I bet players aren't even point. Unless we're watching. That's CFP. Yeah. I'm not watching the other ball. Let's, you know. I want to let the Huskies. I want to be on February 28th. I mean, on the 26th, it's not even quarter finals. New Year's 6th. It's both on a rotating basis. So I want to worry about not seeing the NBA on that day. Start over 12. Countdown to one. That's how we cry. CFP National. Champion. Joining us now is a man who won a BCS national championship. And he also started with 32. Kind of down to one. Became a Super Bowl. Champion. And he played in the Ryder Cup. He won his matchup. But he did not become a Ryder Cup. Champion. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hopper. Yeah. Hey, Jay. Very accurate. That was very accurate. But can we please stop overreacting to one-on-one clips during training camp? Shut up. Thank you, AJ. Okay. Well, practice. It's called practice for a reason. We're trying things. We're trying new techniques. We're trying to figure it out. It's not game day. There you go. This is not what we need to be running. AJ. It's your little ball. AJ Brown is trying something new in this one. It's called unguardable. I don't know how you go from 5th gear to 6th gear to 3rd gear like that. But that's what AJ Brown is doing. And obviously he's been working against Gonzo. Sauce stays in the mix. Gets the tag off. So what? You get a first down. We live to see another day. Speaking of another day. The coach had a great day, allegedly. All reports coming from New England reporters are that the coach bounce back in a big way. And on 7 on 7 Tyler Warren was unguardable. Josh Downs was scoring touchdowns. Daniel Jones is spinning it. And this against New England Patriots. Who we think is a damn good football. Yeah. It's a great football thing. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Gonzo's not out there. But again, that's a great football thing. Alec Pierce isn't out there. But once again. Yes. It's good about where the coach news is right now. First, what I was seeing out of the first couple plays ever coming for practice. Cheers. And I want to let you know. I appreciate the respect you're saying. Hey, let's not ever react to these things. Let's not let our emotions be affected by clips that we're seeing in the drill. That we have no idea what the context is. Let's make sure we understand it. But I'm gonna let you know. I did. I thought the coach is going to lose every game. Whatever I saw. I saw a skit and killed it like that. Sure. And then all of a sudden, I hear, guess what? The coach is actually doing pretty good in their practice as well. You made some video of that. Well, we're never going to get it. Okay. We're never going to get out. Ease. You've seen this clip. No, they're going to do the, you remember? Why that two humble? Is that why? No. Yeah. No, they got a super cool sticky arm thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. You remember what it is? Spider-Man for Spider-Man? Yeah. Spider-Man means it's out. That's cool. That's what we're going to see today is. Did you guys see? Look at sauce. He's with two hands with the Spider-Man thing. Doing this. And it's like, well, the Patriots are the Patriots' social media. You know what they're doing? They're putting football plays out there. Yeah. And you know what I'm doing? Feeling like we're losing a Super Bowl on August 11, 2026. So I like a little bit of defense from our social team now. And how to come through the Patriots' porter? He's doing this. And Coach Fan Logan. Okay. Coach Fan Logan. I appreciate all the optimism. He was doing it. Shane Stuykin comes on immediately after practice. I like what we did. But he's going to say he likes what we did. Right. Movie. I mean, what would you rather be good at? 101's or 11/11? Huh. Well, Coach, we're good at that because there's seven on seven. But still, hearing that Tyler Warren was like the focal point. Like you would be worried without Alex Pierce. But if they're just going all in on Warren, and we're looking at him being like the number one option on their offense after Jonathan Taylor, like, that's great news. Especially if he's going into a second. Nope. Need Alex out there. We need, of course. But if we got Josh Dans. Yep. Okay. Who can work? We got Tyler Warren. Dole. We got Pierce. Ashton Doleman. Feels like we got three levels. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Feels like we got, and Jonathan Taylor out of the back. Healthy. Healthy DJ. And then we got Shane Stuykin in there. Still got Egltrier. Look at this. This is going to be a friggin touchdown. That's what he says every play. Look at this. Oh, my God. We're calling it draw. It might be a friggin touchdown. Look at this. That's what he says on the sideline. Look at you imagine Daniel Jones here and that everything. It might be actually. Let's go. Oh, I broke my leg. That's what Daniel said. What? And then he goes. Oh, I tore my killies. That's what last year was. And then we lost eight straight games. Yeah. You know, miserable that was. That was awful. We went to a couple. Penhouse. Outhouse. Now we're battling with the New England Patriots. In New England. Join us now as a man who might be able to tell us a little bit more information about why. Is John Gordon planting seeds all over the Indian nation? All over the Indianapolis Colts organization? Could be. The man who broke that news to us is obviously an Emmy award-winning host, a pundit, an analyst, incredibly handsome man. Ladies and gentlemen, Pier Schringer. Yeah. Oh. Craig's how we doing? I'm doing great. I never thought I'd be John Gordon's publicist. But this is the walk I walk and this is the life I lead. I had no idea it was going that way. Well, what a dynamic guest he was on Friday. I loved it. Yeah, absolutely. He had quotes for quotes. He said he can't be stressed and thankful at the same time. Love obviously. Cast shadow of a fear, you know. So you can't have all these. He's basically telling you everything you're thinking that's wrong. Don't do it. You need to talk to yourself. You need to keep moving. But he has a quote for everything. I cannot wait to chitchat with him more. You might have set up something that's better for all of our lives. Now let's talk about being better for my life. Indianapolis Colts look good against Patriots this morning. How much are you taking away from these joint practices? And have you been to boots on the ground in the camps you had? What is your biggest takeaway? Yeah, I take a lot from the joint practices. Now I'm with AJ. I don't think the one on one drill in the social media highlight and the fan from the crowd filming something is anything worth getting worked over. But you don't believe that in 2026. These coaches, they take more into this. The joint practices where ones are going against one than the preseason game. Sean McVeigh has not played starters in a preseason game since he got there. But you better believe when they go against the Cowboys in their inner camps. It's going to be one's on one's, it's going to be CDLAM and George Pickens going up against Watson and McDuffy. We're going to see where we're at. All that stuff matters. This is where these guys really get to know who they are. I talked to Robert Salah last week. He's got three different joint practices set. Those guys are doing San Francisco, Chicago and Seattle. He's like, we're going to know what we are. We're going to get tough that way. So I don't think the preseason games matter as much as they used to. I don't think the teams want to get risks to injury. That's for when we see who's going to make the team. But for ones and the guys who are starting, inner camp practices, the inner squad practices. This is a big, big deal for the start of the season. Good work, good work. Always going to be a fight. But the team seemingly more and more are louder about, hey, don't fight each other. We're going to kick you out of practice. And every once in a while, a couple guys are just going to have to throw. of each other and then everybody has to show up 'cause if you don't show up at a fight and you're on film, you might not make the team because of it. So, you know, it's always one thing leading to another, but we love these joint practices as well. AJ, has a question for you, Shreggs? - Yeah, Shregg's sticking with Robert Sal, I know, obviously Brian Dable gets down there. He's the offensive coordinator working with Cam Ward. We see all this stuff, it's tough not to get excited. I'm not gonna lie, watching Cardinal take, catch the ball in Tennessee Titans training camp. He seems to be catching everything. I guess what are you hearing out of Tennessee and Cam Ward's development under Dable? - Yeah, it's been lights out. One of the reasons that Sal ran to that job was Cam Ward and the pieces that they have. What he tells me, which is great, is that Jeffrey Simmons is even better than he imagined. And then you've got Cam Ward on offense and these guys bark at each other the entire practice. Cam Ward is one of these guys that will not be scared to get in the face of a defensive tackle to get his offense going. They are very excited about not only the addition of the rookie Tade who's gonna come along, but Brian Dable brought over Juan Dale Robinson, a guy who maybe didn't fulfill expectations in New York, but they paid him real money and Dable's like, "I want that guy." And then Belinger, that was the guy he had. We want that guy. Cordell Flot was in New York. Dable's like, "Go get that guy." And then Salah, he brought over John Franklin Meyer, Solomon Thomas, Jermaine, John's like, all of these players that were with the Jets and Giants coming to a Tennessee team that hasn't been good the last few years. There's this feeling of chip on the shoulder, new culture, and two former head coaches in Robert Salah and Brian Dable working together to get this team in the conversation in the AFC, but you saw the quarterback series on Netflix. This kid is the real deal, Cam Ward. And if all the early reports are coming together, Karnel Tate might be an immediate impact guy too. - Yeah, I love Cam Ward. I love Cam Ward's family. I love Cam Ward's story. Started at, "What was that school?" - Washington. - In Karnet Ward. - In Karnet Ward, yeah. And then moved with OC, then moved to the OC, he then goes to Miami, flips their entire culture, sets them up in a big way, and then you listen to anybody talk about 'em, that's been around 'em. It's like this guy's all ball, all leadership, and talks a lot of shit, which I love everything about. Now, you just mentioned something that could be scary for Tennessee Titans fans to hear. Oh great, these guys brought a bunch of Giants and Jets in. - Cool. - Yeah, that's great, that's great. But what we would like to say, and I think you were saying, is these are the guys that I think, if these two were to be head coaches again, would like to shape their culture around, as opposed to everything else that happened, which is why they come to Tennessee. And obviously, they got studs across the board, new stadium coming. - Mm-hmm, it's safe. - Nashville is these, I mean, Nashville is the greatest, I mean, that would be a great place to be good at football. We shall see, if they're able to make it happen, do like seeing Karnel Tate have his terrible chlorine, a mecca of buka-type stuff coming out of Ohio State. Now, they're saying there's a kid coming out of West Virginia that could change everything going forward. - Who's that? - All of 'em. - Okay. - Is that right? - Yeah, well, Ritra was actually saying, I wish these guys would have came in a little bit better shape, seemingly not as tough as I would like, but we got time to fix that entire thing. Just know that there's gonna be young guys coming from West Virginia, they're gonna impact me quickly. But it feels like Peter's got a different list. Go ahead, Debud. - Yeah, Shregg, I saw your list today, the A-list, the top five impact rookies. We were just talking about Karnel Tate. We watched some Jordan Tyson highlights yesterday, my sort of delaying corner out of Kansas City Chief. Who was kind of the first guy out from your list? I saw the top five, three Ohio State to begin it. - And then who was the first guy out in your opinion? - Yeah, the top five, I went Caleb Downs, one sunny styles, two, Arvel Reese Three, Jeremiah Love Four, and then Caleb Rutledge as five. - Dog. - Number six to me, if we're gonna say like, who's gonna be that guy? It might have to be actually Mackay Lemmon in Philly, because he's gonna have to play a role. They're not expecting, you know, that he's just gonna slowly come along. Mackay Lemmon was picked right before Pittsburgh, as we know how that whole thing went. He was taken because they think the Gerrita A.J. Brown, this guy, can play a role. And I really wanted to focus on the players, they're gonna be asked the most to do. So then those of my big picture be that guy, and maybe Tyson and maybe Tate, but like, I was at Giants Camp yesterday, guys. I just, this is kind of a decide on number three, Arvel Reese. I don't mean to get Giants fans too overly excited here, but I had a coach pull me aside and was like, before these guys get out there, you have to go look at Arvel Reese. I go, okay, I've seen a million football players before. I've shaken Adrian Peterson's handy, almost broke my hand. I've seen A.J. Hawkin in the locker room. I don't, I'm not, like, odd by, not odd by what football players look like. - All of them. - Arvel Reese looks like Robocop, dude. He is enormous with huge arms, and he like has this entire look to him where you're like, okay, well, that guy is gonna play on it. He's playing inside linebacker next to Tarell Edmunds. They both look like they're absolute beasts in the middle. And what they're saying is, Reese doesn't say a word. He doesn't talk. He just is in the facility all day long studying and getting better and has been nailing guys, like dominating practices as a rookie. And that's up against Pat Ricard and up against Scataboo. So I think that's the instant impact I'm looking for. And Reese kind of brings more than just tackles and stats and all that. Guys like Reese and Styles and Downs, they're also culture setters. And their guys are telling you it's a new era here. Giants Washington and Dallas, all in the NFC East, they need new culture, they need new feel. And I think those three guys really establish it. - I'll tell you what, Horbaugh's really implementing his style early in here. - Yeah. - We watched the interview. - I was very yesterday, Pat. It was, I said this on first take. I'll say it a different way, like a picture of the country club or the five star resort or the discovery club, whatever it is. Everything opposite of that is what I saw yesterday. Two and a half hours of hit and they were telling me, like we were in West Virginia together for 13 days with no nights out to the club, no days off, like hitting for 10 days, maximum days in pads. And it was not like a fun, let's go company off site. - Real day. - This was, we are going to make adversity happen. We're going to overcome this. And on the other side of it, talk to Odell Beckham yesterday. He's like, it was awesome. Like, we hit the crap out of each other. And at the end of it, like we came together as a team and it really feels like Horbaugh is saying, we have to do this stuff first before we're actually legitimately talking about anything else. We have to get tougher and we want it to make it as difficult as possible in August that you can in 2026. - And I think I heard some leaked audio where Horbaugh said, we're fighting the same battles on this field today that they were fighting back in those days. - Uh-huh. - Come on. - Those days, inspirational. - Those days. - I mean, which one's been a lot of days? - The bad days. - The bad days. - The bad days. - You know what I'm talking about? - The bad days, the bad days. - Yeah, the past summer era. - Yeah. - I mean, this is a great day still up, do you know? - No, that's all Horbaugh's talk. - No, no, no. - You're talking about the fighting. - Right there on those West Virginia fields, he was saying on these fields, same blood, bubbling with blood. - Same hot land. - Same battles. - Okay. - That's what he was saying. And it's crazy that on the other side of it, they came together. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Let's go! - Strong sound. - Strong sound. - I thought I was thinking. I said, remember the title. - Oh, is that what you were thinking? - Yeah, I'm happy you weren't that. - Hey guys, like that. - Strikes, our Val Reese funny story about our Val Reese before we moved in new conversation just to echo your sentiment about, hey, take a look at this guy. Ohio State last year was the first game day. And as I was running up on set, got him Sean over there, legend, absolute beast. I don't remember his last name at this point. AJ might know what better than that. - Perkins, Sean Perkins. - Sean Perkins, okay. Who is taking care of us? We love Sean. - The man. - Huge Ohio head. - Shoot. - Looks like a bug guy. - Like radio. - Yeah, he does, I mean, he is Ohio. Like you look at this guy. He's been around the bug guys for a very long time. He's been very good to us. Stop by him. I go, hey, who's somebody, make me look like a smart person. Like, who should I talk about up here? And he goes, our Val Reese is somebody that is, nobody's talk about. I go up there, I don't say it one time. - Yeah, I didn't say it one time. I just for some reason, I'm like, I didn't say. I think you had, I don't know. I think you'd be like, rekting in time. - Exactly. - Yeah, I would look like an absolute genius. And then from that point forward, that Ohio State defense was just like, oh, pick your poison here. You got sunny, you got Arvel, you got Caleb, you got Matt Petrusher in the back doing this. - Kate and McDonald. - Oh, and also-- - And McDonald Curry. - Yeah, curry. - Also, Kate and Crayson. Yeah, they're Wathen on one side and then on the other side-- - Egg Nelson. - Oh, my God. I mean, that defense was outrageous in there. And it was hard to stick out. Arvel Reese definitely did. And if you looked at him, it was like, the fuck is that? How does that exist? - Did you see Odyssey yet? Did you see the movie Odyssey? - Oh, so good. - Oh, my God. - Great. - You look like the Cyclops. Like, it's just going, I'm like, I'm looking at Arvel Reese. - I thought you were going to say-- - I thought you were going to say, you ought to see these-- - Yeah, I thought-- - Or that coach, you seen that coach? - A Bamboo movie? - No, on the sideline with the new iPad. - Yeah, Bamboo-- - Oh, yeah. - That was Bamboo? - Yeah, that was Bamboo. - That's Caitlin DeBoer's one. Sabin tested those out. Yeah, Sabin was the one that said, "Let me get my arms and these things." Boom, boom, boom. - There he is. - It's a rep. - You're not in Cairns or Sydney. That looks like the Avatar. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The thing there is we're doing a movie reference. It's, okay, let's move along. Let's do a little shitter chatter about football that's happening. Breaking news happened today. Go ahead, Con, man. - Yeah, Shrager, past time I'm in Minnesota. Kyler Murray, now the starting QB, J.J. McCarthy nine. Maybe taking kind of the back seat here now. Learning a little bit. Maybe they will be friends, not on the opposite side of the classroom. But what is your take on Kyler being the starter? Was this something you were kind of hearing? Going back a little bit or was this something that surprised you seeing that a lot of the reports were that it was a much tighter race and that sometimes everybody was having a good day. Sometimes everybody was having a bad day. - Yeah, the reports have been damning for both guys. I think Sunday night the public practice did not do Kyler Murray any favors in the court public. opinion when everybody from Alec Louis and Kevin Seafirt and the guys who were there on the ground were saying that JJ outplayed Kyle Murray in this practice and Kyle are through two picks and 11 on 11. But trust me, they weren't getting Kyle Murray and causing all this in that building if they believe that JJ McCarthy had a runaway spot at this position. They went and they got Kyle Murray. They didn't have to. They paid him $3 million. It's a very low contract. But the second Kyle Murray was added as a free agent acquisition. And the second Kyle Murray chose to go there. This was Kyle Murray's job to lose whether Kevin would say it or not. It might have been an open battle. It very well could have been. The fact of the matter is McCarthy did not beat him out in camp. And here we are getting it done now. So this doesn't drag on every day. And we're doing one of these. Hey, who got the one reps? Who got the two reps? Who's going to play in the preseason? That doesn't do anybody any favors iron sharpens iron and all that. But it's Kyler's job. And guess what? If Kyler doesn't play great out of the gates, then it'll be JJ's job. It's not like it's a lifetime Supreme Court justice decision that this guy's job is to get set in stone. We'll see how Kyler does. But the second they signed Kyler Murray, you guys better believe it. Former first overall pick. Kevin O'Connell was saying, I need that on my team. And that's what's going to get us over the home. Adam Telen was on NFL live a couple weeks ago and he said, this is Kyler's job to lose. And everybody's like, whoa, that's the first time we've heard that because everything else has just been fair competition. It is fair competition. They're competing against each other now. Senior NFL insider Adam Scheffer is Michigan man. Yes he is. And Ian Rappaport though, after his conversations with people in high places, he said the same thing. It's the competition. It's competition. So we're all trying to figure out and read the tea leaves of who they're going to go with. You said if Kyler stinks, then JJ will take the spot. You think JJ trade bait right now because it's kind of done. And they do have the person once experienced standing literally right there. Ready. Number 11 is standing right there. What do you think happens with JJ? Sounds like you think he stays. I think he stays because the salary itself is not crazy. It's the year three next year when it's say, okay, we eventually have to pay this guy. That's when you start talking whether he's trade bait. I would also add less than 12 months ago. I was on the sidelines. I'm running a football when JJ McCarthy beats the Bears in Kevin O'Connell's doing flips on the sideline. And in the locker room, they are acting as if JJ McCarthy was the savior. Things change in this league. And the same team that let Sam Donald walk out the building, the same team that let Daniel Jones out the building. I think they would be a little more cautious to letting JJ McCarthy walk out the building and just say if he's under contract, it's good to have JJ McCarthy on this team. He's maturing. I've seen him play probably 25 games of college football. There might have been no better leader and winner at that level. He didn't suddenly forget all that. In fact, he's better this year. This was Tyler's job to lose. Yeah, they're just wondering if nine is the right thing for the NFL, you know, because you brought up that Chicago game and I mean, I remember that's why he did it. In a C player, what? Yes. Yes. That fourth quarter was incredible. Some people fell asleep, they missed it. They woke up the next morning and it was like, hey, JJ McCarthy, one crazy last time. It's like, this is the future. This is why they did what they did. This is why they moved on. And then obviously, injuries have cut into all of it. Amanda needs reps in that offense, certainly wasn't able to get it. The way chefters tweeting the news is fascinating. I don't know if you guys read the slant he had. Well, I wrote that tweet with a tear in his eye. Well, maybe maybe two tears here in his eye. JJ McCarthy misses entire rookie season through the injury. And started just 10 games last year with Minnesota winning six of them. Now it's still only 23 year old. We'll be four. Wow. Yeah, make some pros. That's bullshit, Chef Michigan man. That's messed up. Yeah. So like you typed out a tear. That's a Michigan man, right? I'll tell you that is news. That is a chef. He would say, what did I say it was wrong? Well, what did I say it was wrong? It's all fact. He said everything. In fact, which it certainly is. Maybe right. But on that note, let me even look in for another quarterback at this moment. Probably tells us that JJ maybe off the field isn't exactly what they're looking for as a quarterback of their franchise as well. So maybe he gets a chance to grow. And maybe Kyler Murray and Kevin O'Connell do something that the NFL has never seen before. Maybe because there's a chance. What was that? What was that? No, just a lot of people acted like we haven't seen like six years of Kyler. And he's just this rookie or number one overall pick. We've seen Kyler. Oh, come on. Like some bum. I didn't say it was a bum. Have you seen Kyler spin one of these right here? I've just seen the report out of practice from Kyler too. You don't know the offense. You don't have clue what's going on out there. I mean, people run over the place. He doesn't know why. Wait until he understands what's going to cost the vision. Let's see if they don't finish for it. If they do end up trading JJ, we'll go down as the biggest blunder in the history NFL football let Sam Donnelly. Well, that GM has been fired, though. Yep. Okay. They have moved on from that to you. McCarthy. He left early, right? He made that new deal. He maybe go see if he can get another year of Michigan. Oh, wow. They would need him. Oh, wow. I say he will play Michigan this year. I might have too much hate. Kyle Wittingham, grandfather to 11 children, Mormon man and Michigan. Let's go. Okay, not only not only Mormon man also are saying, so if I have hate in my heart for a place that's going to make our team better, I don't I don't think so. Yeah. They should have fired him on the spot. I like for saying that. I agree. Great. It's on your side. It's out there. Yeah. Well, if the game is the greatest, call it football robbery in the nation and you're going to come in and start with that. Shut up. Well, listen, AJ, AJ said he was asked the same question about Wittingham and you heard the way the Ohio State people speak. Yeah, I'm sure he's a good coach. Yeah. They call him Witting, huh? Yeah. He sounds like a really good guy, honestly. You have any hate in your heart for him? Yes. It's an amazing hate for the head coach. No, definitely no hate for him. That's what Wittingham was trying to say. What AJ said. But Ryan Day's coming out saying, I had to have 24/7 security because we fucking lost to these guys. So I've got fans. So yeah, I hate everything. It's not there. Yeah, maybe he needs to be tried too. Yeah, it needs to be blessed in the fire. Yeah, someone from Ohio State, maybe AJ needs to pay him a visit, beat the piss out of him. I don't think that's going to happen. I got to go an 80 miles an hour down triple black diamond. That's true. This guy road motorcycle riding his Harley with no sleeves. That's fine. Who did Wittingham? Yeah. Yeah. He came to our show in Utah. Yeah. He showed up to our show in Utah on a Harley. Literally came around. I don't know. Yeah. He's like a super duper certified skier, obviously. Yeah. 82 miles. He showed me. He had something on his watch. I guess it keeps his speed. And he like showed me. He was like, 82 miles an hour yesterday. That's moving. That's moving. Yeah. He's moving. Yeah. That's him on the motorcycle. So I didn't know we had this in him. I take it back with my he's a nice man, 11 grandkids, the whole thing. He's a good man. He's a good man. He's still good man. I mean, there's no reason to say he's not. He's just, he's a badass. I think that needs to be. Not for badass too. And I think he naturally comes in there. And obviously everybody that had hired him was gone. All right. So he is really the only Michigan person like representative. So maybe he didn't have anybody tell him immediately, like, by the way anytime we're asked about. Yeah, just say you fucking hate him. Be why you don't. It's like to be what you think you thought, you know, that was foolish. What did SIG do? You know, what did SIG do? Purdue stinks. They did. So the Michigan Ohio State and who else? He say Iowa's well he should have that probably. No, he would never say that because he respects Iowa more than damn near any other team in the country outside of his own Indian. I saw Reese Davis. I saw Reese Davis. And he's sitting in a desk. And I saw SIG's feet up on the table as he was breaking down clips. It was against Iowa. Yeah, it was. Well, it was. That was when he learned Fernando was the guy, right? I didn't watch the clip. I assume that that's the case. I mean, well, we were kind of just voicing it over in here. So I and I never really went back and watched it because because SIG has said many, many good things about Iowa. I don't want to taint that and maybe stumble into something where he's like, yeah, I mean, he's got. But you know, we knew we had lots right there. I don't need to hear anything like that. I'm just going to stick with, hey, this guy thinks I was the best team in the nation. That is what it is. And what he said, what they're about to show is the clip. I think it was really well done. I don't know what it's for. I'm excited to see the kind of hit the internet yesterday hit ESPN yesterday. Pretty hard. But I think it was when SIG said that he didn't know how Fernando knew that guy was going to be open. And he also got hit in the face. And it was at that moment, he realized like this guy might have a little something. This guy might have a little something. Then they showed Hoover. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. TCU similar type player, which is why SIG says that he likes what's going to potentially happen. But SIG would not compliment and say that new Hoover has done anything. Which is classic. Signati. But nonetheless, one of his quarterbacks for Nando Mendoza has a little situation brewing over there in Las Vegas, which we certainly need to know more about. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shrek. So now that we have the QB battle in Minnesota pretty much done, what about the QB battle in Las Vegas? Really haven't seen many clips come out of their camp outside of Mad Max Crosby, man, maybe trying to intentionally hurt Cousins. I don't know what the deal. What are you hearing from Raiders camp? Because Clint Kubiak did say, Hey, best players can start, but we haven't really heard much. Yeah. By the way, that Crosby deal that came out, that coming from the official ESPN account was like, OK, is this AI? Is this real? Truth the matter is, Crosby is known to play to the end of the whistle, even in practice. And there have been teammates in the past who have said after leaving like, that guy is the man. He's a great player. He's also a pain in the ass play against in practice because he doesn't stop. So I could see Cousins being a little p-oed with all that. I would also imagine Cousins has the leg up on Mendoza just for the fact that they are trying to do a long-term rebuild here with Clint Kubiak, who has worked with Cousins before and the two of them know the same verbiage, same offense, and Andrew Genoco, who's the offensive coordinator, has the same exact offense. So it's plug-and-play with Kirk. Now, the version of Cousins that we've seen the last few years, hasn't been the version of Cousins that those guys coached way back when. Question is, at what point does Mendoza take over? Another knockout to clear Cousins the day one starter, but I would imagine talking to league sources. Cousins has a serious leg up on Mendoza, not because of play necessarily, but because of the situation and the comfort in easing him in and getting him ready to play. They don't want to do anything too soon for a team that's probably not looking to win this for ball this year. Tom Brady, obviously, one of the owners of the Raiders, sat behind Drew Bledsoe, learned a little bit, and then obviously whenever he got in, took the realm, nothing ever stopped him. So maybe they're doing the same for Fernando. We're firm believers in Fernando. And I'll tell you what, if he's going to have to deal with Max Crosby, hitting him in practice for the rest of his career, I don't like that one bit. I don't like that one bit. Now listen, you talked about how Max Crosby never stops. I respect that. I do appreciate that. Stay off the quarterback is something that has been talked about since the beginning of time in football. As Max Crosby just been pounding quarterbacks his entire career and that's a real question. Because that is a real question for me. And I genuinely, that seems like a complete alternate universe that anything that I've ever seen in a NFL practice, especially with the millions of dollars that are placed into these quarterbacks for their franchise. Has Max Crosby been hitting quarterbacks in practice his entire career? And has that just not been talked about? Is it just like normal for him? No, I've heard this before, prior to this, that he's done it before. So it's not that it's necessarily something he does commonly. But I think it's more of a product of this guy plays in practice at 110 miles per hour every month. A lot of people do that, a lot of people play 110 hours an hour practice and stay away from the fucking quarterbacks. Halo around him man. This is me punter just watching practice. Okay, stay off the quarter, stay away from the quarterback. Do not touch. The quarter is every other, I don't know, maybe three plays probably since you're in fifth grade. It really, if Max is just pounding quarterbacks at practice, I guess be who you can afford to be. Blind side guys. Oh my god. That is crazy. That is crazy. I mean, what a weapon, dude. What an absolute weapon that you get away with that get paid. Oh, you'll be on a team and still like respected and appreciated. And I, I don't want to start because that why you got cut from Baltimore. Is that what you're going to do if you come around the corner of Lamar's there and he just said, I had him up. No, fun fact. Lamar was walking through the hallway. He was walking through the hallway. Yeah, he used to that all way. That's what he's doing. Honestly, do you know if he's always hit quarterbacks in practice? I've heard in the past that this, when the cousins deal happening before that, this is not the first time that a quarterback has had taken issue on the team that, hey, like, dude, chill out. And it's not necessarily taking their head off or anything, but that there is a certain intensity that he brings to practice every single day. That isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea when you're on the other side of it and you're trying to go through some practices and get your stuff right. Okay, that's Matt Ross before. Yep, Matt. That's him off. That's him off the field too. He's, he's always on the line. I think that's why you love him. Laurent Landry, he took out a regiment and walked through. Did he really? No, Pat. First day of mandatory mini camp. First day we saw Laurent the entire off season. Two sixty-five. Four species. Safety had, had, had, had tassels, I believe, on his jerseys already. It was unbelievable. I've never seen anything like you. What was the reacting, Reggie? Reggie laying down the sideline. Okay. Just getting ball. Laurent literally. Two shoulder through chest. Damn. I think Reggie held onto it. Of course. Reggie goes down and then I think there was like a throttle of the ball. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think you threw it at it. Yeah. And then there was obviously a full gathering and then Chuck. Hey, Jesus Christ, we can't be hitting Reggie Wayne. I would pay good money for a show where you guys just tell like training camp and practice stories like this. I am on. I'm on the edge of my seat. I remember Laurent Landry. I got drafted at LSU and then was built like, I don't know, a lineback. Whole coat. And then just to thought of him laying out a Hall of Famer and Reggie Wayne, like the thought of all that. It should be unbelievable. Should be Hall of Famer. But yeah, walk through. Not even practice. This is the first walk through of the day. You know, we got practice in the afternoon, we're just kind of going through what's all going to happen later as we're all getting comfortable with a mandatory mini camp. Welcome to the team just made the pro ball his first time seeing him. We had 99% attendance for all the voluntary. And then he showed up at the man toys our first time seeing them. I don't remember the guy. Never met him. No, never met him. He walked in. Holy shit. I mean, I think he had music playing as he walked in. I never been more impressed with a physical specimen as a walk by. And I think I even gave a whole shit. As he walked by. As he walked by. Yeah, then he always had to. Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, whoa, okay, whoa. And he had a red drink always. And man, he was fucking flying out there. I mean, it was soccer shoes because it made him quicker. Yeah. He's ready to do special teams if we need them. Hey, man, it seems like you're not doing as much on defense right now. You come play special teams. You've got to vote. Put them on kickoff return. Hey, just need you to go blindside. You've got to vote. All pro safety playing kickoff return. Death machine for the other side. I mean, it was I love that man. Oh, yeah. He was great in the locker room. Hilarious. There was a couple things. He made him miss some games. Hey, that's going to happen. Sure. What do you look like? That's going to happen if you mind. You're standing. Yeah, I'm going to get you every once in a while. You know, but him and Gucci live a good life. Oh, yeah. Him and Gucci is pet monkey. God. Really? Did a pet monkey? I saw. I saw. I said, I got it. Give me one of those, man. Seriously. Well, him and Gucci had to have a moment. Him and Gucci had to have an alpha moment. This is incredible. Laurent Landry is the most entertaining human I have ever encountered. I really? Oh, I wish he would speak more. He should. Yeah, he should come out and do his thing. Laurent Landry just at least a lot mistaken. He had a brother. Go on, Landry. Also the playing in the Ravens, right? Also safety, I think. I saw Laurent do maybe 250 try to pull that out. Just straight through. And then I think he flipped that thing and did like another 200 of these. I said, so that's what it is. He goes, yeah, there's 10 of these a day. Whoa, they walked away. I was like, whoa, whoa. I took a sip of that drink one game day. How'd you do? Big mistake. What did you get by? It was pushed up. It was like I threw 90 zins in my mouth. It was what we think was right. That's what football, buddy. Hey, the 180, but what do you say? And people need a little bit of appreciation. You sure, Laurent Landry. Yeah, I'm sure. Give me that shit. You came and checked up on me. Probably two drives in, right? How's the heart? How's your heart doing? Everything okay? I love that, man. Hey, well, we hope you're a great man. Thank you for the entertainment. And on that note, Shreggs, it's kind of wasted your time there at the end with a long later story. But we appreciate it. We appreciate you. You're the man, dude. Thank you so much. You guys are the best. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, Pete Shregg. There's a picture of the wrong Landry showing up at Indianapolis Colts training camp. Yeah. I love that you try to on game day first, like not even. I mean, what? Yeah, yesterday. That's the day to try. Well, I know you. I know you and there's some things you won't do on game day. Exactly. Any more. Mostly anything. But, you know, I for you know what, you look game ready. I want to get in for you. Maybe I'm not ready as you are. Let's get there. Dude, Reggie. What did I get there? Yes, he did. I assume. I don't remember what game it was. I didn't see it, but I'm happy you tried it out. Just be a good teammate a little. Reggie, way into not like that. That was a tough introduction to that. That's crazy. Yeah, but the wrong didn't change one bit. I mean, I mean, I mean, he wasn't hitting people square anymore in walkthroughs, but he was certainly buzzing the tower. I mean, it was flybuzz. Everything was on every single thing. I never failed. Maverick. We're doing walkthrough, two minute. You name it. He's buzzing the tower every single time. Special teams. You got him on pump block. Okay. We're doing punch save. Sweet. He's running right, but I mean, he's trying to block kick in practice. It was awesome. I mean, it was an incredible thing. And yeah, he did look like this, though. I mean, this is what you get running around the field. I mean, that is. I don't remember. He walked in looking like that day one. I mean, it was awesome. Passels on a shirt. Fucking sunglasses. Just walked in like a hybrid. Yeah, it wouldn't be a DN. DN safety. Yeah, which by the way, now they got the air kind of a man. They got a star thing that's going on. He was able to bet ahead of his time. And I'm going to tell you, tackles were not a slept if this guy was coming off the edge. And that's just regular old creatineers. And that's right. They take your creatine boys. And that's a Tuesday night. That's not some big, that's on show day. And it's just random Tuesday. And I assume he still looks like that. Exactly. Godly. What a fun time. All right. Let's go through some news happening around. Aaron Donald's going to be a member of the Los Angeles Rams. Yep. When soon breaking? No, I didn't get a message or anything. This is just like, it seems like from the beginning, nobody has put the brakes on anything. And obviously he's working out the Rams facility. And he's working out with our players and staff and he's rehabbing and recovering. And just he just wants to know. Yeah, he does still have it if you're wondering. Yeah, he, yep. Yeah, he still has. I haven't seen the knives yet. I guess that would be kind of final boss of training for Aaron Donald when I get the knives back out. But all indications are telling us that Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett are going to be on the same D line this upcoming season. Yes, that team is the odds on favor to win the Super Bowl. But they are in the same division as the actual Super Bowl champions, the Seattle Seahawks. AJ, just kind of your thoughts as this has kind of been like the worst kept secret or like something that hasn't really been hidden from anybody, but seemingly a real Aaron Donnell mental test to see where he's at. I think he's probably just trying to figure himself out. You think at this stage? Yeah, I guess he's just trying to see how his body responds. I guess to some like more rigorous type workouts. We know the guys always in the weight room. You see him working out with the Wayne and the Rock Johnson doing all kinds of stuff. But yeah, I mean, I just wonder when he's going to officially sign. We know he can still move. We know he looks like he doesn't have any ailing injuries that slow him down at all. So I guess he's just trying to gauge how his body will respond. And I would assume his body is responding pretty damn well, watch him go through these things. How would if you're in recovery and you're like, great, now my every rehab session is going to be broadcasted to the world right behind Aaron Donnell, all right, Aaron, you go first and then I'll go. Thanks. Happy to see this. On that note, Rams piecing together quite a team. Yeah. You know, and it's all just been kind of understood that the contracts already figured out like, yeah, they already know what they're going to pay him. He knows what it's going to be because Aaron Donnell, especially with the amount of money everybody else is getting, if he wanted to announce to the other teams, hey, I'm back. Sure. Somebody get another hundred million dollars and be really smart. If he does a couple good slide throws and puts that on the internet, I think there would be a team that'd be like, yup, whatever he wants. But instead, it's just kind of assumed he loves McVeigh, loves the Rams, only going back to do this and they figured out the business part of it all. I assume it's going to be incentive laden. I would assume for Aaron Donnell, but nonetheless, it just feels like it's going to happen. Yeah. What was his contract when he retired? Was it completely run out? Did he have a year left? Like, I wonder if there was some sort of one year buffer because I know going into his last year, there was already a conversation like, hey, Aaron Donnell might call it. So if it was a one year deal, do they just run that back fully guaranteed 20 million bucks year? I wonder what his rate will be when he comes back because like you said, it is done. This is happening. They're going to have Aaron Donnell's and Miles Garrett on the same D line. So, I mean, if you are in the NFC West, I couldn't imagine being an offensive lineman just thinking about this every week. Yeah. Well, you know, you got to check 96 and you got checked 99 then they got who else in that D line as well. Fiske. Yeah. Yeah. And then it kind of goes back to earlier conversation or the earlier clip we played with Michael Parsons and talking about, you know, his football intellect IQ of like basically setting up the slides knowing where they are. And that's the issue. You have every game every week when you're facing this Rams team, do we slide? Do we double 99? Do we slide? Do we double 95? Somebody's going to one-on-one zero young, he's been a dog Fiske as well. So you're going to have to move around and then that frees up other guys as well. Or it keeps guys into the past protections, opposed to getting five out for defense. So that helps the back end tremendously, man. But these guys are absolute monsters, man. Let's do this legit argument for greatest defense player of all time. Now he has been away from the game for, what, two complete years or three seasons? Two. Okay, two full seasons. So yes, he is a freak, he is a mutant. But you know, I would, you know, till we see him on the field in past playing football, you know, that's when obviously it'll be done done. Best sports book in existence? No. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I can say that. Definitely. That's an above IQ thing. Yeah. You're IQed up, right? I do think I'm above IQed up. I think that is what I'm doing. Both best odds to when come back player of the year, guys not signed to a team. Okay. So just know that that's happening. Now we do have an AP voter who is not allowed to say anything about his votes publicly. But what are you kind of giving a star all about? Why would he not be a come back player? Because this has changed. Yes. It's a bit, it's now it's about overcoming stuff and we had the Joe Flacco situation where he overcame, taking his kids to school, Aaron just retired. This overcoming retirement is pretty big. Yeah. That would be, Mark Hamlin overcame death. Is that that you? That's what Joe overcame, taking his kids to school, yeah. This is the Flacco retirement and come back player rule. So I was confused by the odds, we like you, but I guess we'll just have to have. Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. I like Patrick Mahomes and Daniel Jones. When did Mahomes say his ACL? October. I think it was later. I thought it was. Yeah, I was gonna say. Like what? He shouldn't be eligible for. He played damn near the whole season. Well, he's coming back from, he's coming back there. Yeah, but no one expect, like he's suck, no one expects him to not be good. I don't think. And if you do, I think you're a bit of a fucking wacko. Same with Jaden Daniels. Like he played seven games last year. Week 15 has when Patrick Mahomes got hurt. Yes, crazy. He come back. And he's dead. Down there. I don't like it. When he got hurt, they were already kind of shite. Yeah. Oh yeah, they were. They were shite all year. Yeah. They were. They were. They would say the same thing. The chiefs are still the chiefs, though. I think we all need to understand that the chiefs is still the chiefs, okay, and I'd like that to be remembered. They got new state and come to a new state. If the AFC finalists in their division, Denver Broncos are for real, brother. Who knows what the chargers are going to be. I mean, and how about the radius? I think some of us know who the chargers are going to be. What's that? Who knows that? Listen, Justin Herbert's in love. Justin. Justin Beer Herbert. Yeah. Yeah. Get it right. Get it right. All right. Whatever they do, whatever the name is, you name it. Her beer. Good old work, saying. Beer Birch. Yeah. Whatever the name is. That's it. Okay. Whatever they're in love. And I'm happy for them. I respect that. There's a lot of people saying they're pumped that Justin Herbert's even showing up to practice it all. That's a lot of things. Okay. Sure. Hello. Do you see what happened with him? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Same deal. Same type of sit down situation. Copycat Lee. He's going to play off game. Gotcha. Super Bowl. Okay. That is a Miami Dolphins defender back there who obviously drafted two at Tonga Veloah who's now a member of the Atlanta Falcons over Justin Herbert who is still a member of the Los Angeles Chargers. But nonetheless, you don't have to hold that regret against him because of the two of Herbert thing. I like how happy Herbert is both having one play off game. No doubt. I actually do too and I appreciate love church and state brother is a natural football league. Okay. Always separate the two. I'm just go out there get your job done and go smooch at home in the couch. There's nothing wrong with that. Try to get me get exactly home. There's a conical visit to set the standard. There's a conical visits. That's fine. I come from you. Yeah. Just got married. Exactly. That's what I said. I love love church and state. You don't see me bringing my wife in here smoothing her out. You don't do it. You don't see me doing that, all right. We're all bringing the whole ball of chain around here showing her everything and smoothing her sitting on the sitting on the basketball court while you guys are still working in the other room. Okay. The other guys aren't working. You don't know that. There might have been plenty extra reps on that field actor. There were some jogs of machine, maybe some pass sets, but this is post practice. Justin Herbert's about to go back out there and get his extra mental reps and physical reps. Just need to say hello to the love of his life. And I don't like how much everybody's judging him. Josh Allen yesterday said, you know, if you're having a daughter, maybe maybe a little bit softer, you know? And a lot of people said, oh, that's great. That's good for football. These guys can't live an actual life. How come everybody wants to know everything about these guys? Then once I know everything about these guys, they say, I don't want to know everything about these guys. What else did Josh say? I haven't seen my family since I'm so damn locked in. That's how you know the difference. Right there. Well, it's family. Now you saw everybody else's family was just the beerberts after practice. After practice. After practice. That's a good thing. What's that? The beerberts. There we go. I don't really like that you guys made me do that either way. I saw it online. I didn't start it. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. We brought it up. Get me into that. A Steelers fan in the back today, you don't see that happening in Pittsburgh, obviously. Well, it's right. It's right. A lot of phrases. But obviously it's focused lockdown on football. That's where everybody's trying to do right now, win a damn Super Bowl. George Kiddell, seemingly going to be back whenever they say he's going to be back. We saw him all off. He's not having a good time. Looked healthy. So any conversation about him delaying anything didn't feel real ever. George Kiddell is a physical specimen, an absolute freak, a unicorn, an alien with a wild work ethic. We assume he will be back, expected to dominate as soon as he gets back on the field. A.J. Is that not accurate? Yes. I absolutely expect him to dominate. If you remember, he came to our set at the Super Bowl. He was riding in the little wheelie. The little wheelie chair like you get at Walmart. If you broke your leg or something or you're an old lady. He rolled around. He used to be in great spirits. In fact, he felt like he was on track to get back out of this year. Yeah. Fatso at a fair. That's big time there. Yeah. The type situation. You have to weigh in before you get one of those. Yeah. You make your way in. You got over 500. Yeah. I don't think there's an actual scale, but there's a lot of you got it. We get it. Yeah. So you're going to love that. George Kiddell, though, was on one of those. And then obviously he's gone to work. He was on crutches. I do believe when Mac Jones broke that ice shot blast off the goal in the background. So we've seen him kind of recover. He's enjoyed his life through recovery. But this guy's a psycho. He built an entire performance facility at his house. He is all in all ball. Hopefully, he don't get got by that substation out there because that thing is getting everybody out. It's waiting to be keeping eyes on George. Yeah. Close. Yeah. Yeah, substation is dropping a little emoji. Don't look. Yeah. It's a heart bear too. It's going to wait. It's going to take it sweet time. It seems like it does have multiple different varieties of taking it out. It goes slow. And then it would actually pop up on your first day as well. And there's joint practice happening out there now. So we'll see how others respond to the substation immediately. And is it substation? Substation says absolutely not. But does seem like the numbers would indicate as such. Let's talk about some numbers. We're seeing some at ESPN Cleveland numbers and making us go. That feels like that's a better quarterback than that quarterback. Todd Monkin, head coach at a Cleveland Brown said, you don't need to be tying me up and And all that type of bullshit in here. and his post-practice presser yesterday. - I went in China to America asked if they're even Steven, and then you mentioned that the Sean's got just better. - Hold on, what was that? - So that's what I'm asking, were you saying-- - I said the Sean's better. - Were you saying that he's gotten better since camp or that he is better than Shadour? I want to show him. - I don't think I threw in there that he's better than Shadour. I'm not sure I win that part. I appreciate you trying to trap me in that show. - No, no, no, no, no. - Todd Monk, it's given no answers. - I love it. I don't want to hear it. I said that. He said, and then you hear him run through it. I would have never said that. Like in his mind, you hear him saying, "Trust yourself, Todd." Yeah, right. I'm not doing that at all. Any piece of information that we're getting from the head coach who's making this decision, especially with these two guys, is going to be hyper scrutinized. But he's saying, "Hey, it's a competition. Let the boys play. Let's see who's the best." AJ, you're in Ohio. How do the dog pond feel about this battle at this particular point? - I honestly think a lot of the fans, the people that I know that are die-hard, Cleveland Browns fans, they're kind of torn. They understand the history and what's going on with the Shawn and all of that situation. And they actually love like the energy and all the juice that Shadour has brought. But they honestly think, "Hey, whoever gives us a chance to win." I don't think there's anyone's hanging their hat on either player, but I think there's been positives on both sides for both these guys. - Here's yesterday's ESPN Cleveland Tweet, great hotties for Shadour, only two for Shawn. Who's leading the day? Well, at ESPN Cleveland has been giving us information Todd Monkins has been saying, "Uh, uh-huh. You think I'm not telling anybody." Yeah, right. He did say on his first day, he was the one in Baltimore trying to draft Shadour. It's like, "Hey, I was the actual one trying to get you in Baltimore whenever you said, don't trap me. I'll go to Australia," whatever you said. And then he ended up in Cleveland. So Todd said, "We're gonna have to talk about that at some point. I do believe Todd Monkin has been given the ability to play whoever the hell he wants." Even though the Shawn's been paid $230 million guaranteed from the Cleveland Browns' potentially back then. Yeah, I mean, I just love everything we're seeing from Todd Monkin right now. I love how he handles the media. He's clear with his messaging. So I would assume he's the same way with the team. And, you know, we got a job where we could be clipped up and things can be taken or a narrative can be made about certain quotes. We saw it early. We were talking about, you know, the floor, him talking about Jordan Love, dissecting defenses and blitzes. So he knows, like everything he says, especially when he talk about a quarterback battle, is gonna be taken, can be given a life of his own. So I like him kind of nipping the butt right there. And that kind of sets the tone with the media too. And how they approach him throughout his tenure as a head coach in Cleveland. I wish he would just have a say in his mouth. Oh, yeah. That would be perfect. Lane Johnson announces this is final season. Congratulations to him. Yeah, Lane. Incredibly successful career. A little bit of a retirement tour for one of the greatest of all time. I assume he'll be a first baller. Yeah. I assume Lane Johnson will be a first baller Hall of Famer. What a stud. And obviously, you know, Philadelphia has pillars. They're losing them slowly. Okay, Lane Johnson would obviously be the next one to go. Next year, Rihanna has a brand new offensive system in there. Vic Fangio is a quote every single time he's at the press conference hilarious. Are the Philadelphia Eagles a little bit of a sleeping giant over there? Because I've heard the giants are about to have big time buzzed. The gentle giant, I believe, is about to go. Yeah. Are the Eagles, Philly, Eagle giants, about the kind of sleeping giants go ahead and attack everybody? Maybe the Johns got it done, especially for Lane Johnson one last go. Yeah, I'd also buy low on the Eagle just so you have that on your radar as well, like the gentle giant. But yeah, I mean, it feels like the Eagles still have kind of the lead in that entire division. Like you just heard Trayor come on here and say, like, hey, look out from a Kyle Leman. He's going to be a guy for Philly with the Von Tismis. So I would still lean Eagles easy in the NFC. Patriot Games finals tonight. I believe on ABC high school fitness test. I believe they're fighting for competing for $250,000 in scholarships back in the day, presidential fitness awards were a huge deal. I think they're trying to bring that back in a global guts. American Gladiators, American Ninja Warrior type way for high school athletes and students across the country. Love that ESPN, Disney broadcasting that. Hope it's become something special to keep kids fit and active. You know, you used to have to play 60. Now the Patriot Games are given away some scholarship funds. I hope this continues to grow. That's happening tonight. Also, hard knocks episode tonight. NFL Films folks are saying the best one they've had in a long time. We can't wait to be back tomorrow. Be a friend to tell a friend something nice, my change of life. Fucking nail this. Got it all. That's a good idea. That was as top tier. That's a Patriot Games out right there. Yeah. Work here. It's a work there. That's my first time getting highs on his Patriot Games right there. In real time, I almost stopped and said, oh, the phone. That looks a lot cooler than a, yeah, then I could have ever imagined. It's the mic hosting it. The mic should be. He's hosting American Gladiators on prom. See you, too. See you, too. Available soon. Coming. The mic is not a part of this. This is, I believe this is directly with the sports-fit council and ESPN. It's like Timmy, like Timmy Toboe and different people are on that council, right? I'm talking to you, Shambo. Yes. I believe. Yeah, I do believe so. Trips. I think trying to get fitness back into the high school level in a big way is a masterpiece. And I like the Disney and ESPN and ABC have all been like, all right, we'll broadcast this, try to make this the thing. This is obviously the first year, hopefully it only continues to grow. We don't have any, we have no idea what's going on over there. Certainly something that we would be interested in though, you know, for sure. Celebrating athletes, high school athletes, big stage, we got an obstacle course like this happening. Would certainly like to help this continue. I mean, this is why I started donating back to my high school when a kid's a stay in sports. You know, there's a lot of things that can get people away from sports these days, little on all the technology. I mean, we talked about the e-bikes. So anything that's promoting the next generation to be active, badass dogs, I would like us to be a part of. And I think that's kind of what this is going to promote, especially if they're giving away big prizes, scholarship prizes, hopefully it will only continue to grow. I think this the first year, finals are tonight at 6.30. I have no idea what's happening, but I cannot wait to see it. Yeah, I mean, because you imagine if when you were in high school, they basically showed up and brought an American Ninja Warrior, you know, start to finish obstacle course and you just compete against your high school or people around to do it. I mean, it is really cool. I think they're doing victory hoops as well, which is like a three on three situation. So it's not even just that. There's like other cool stuff they're doing. And then it's on primetime on Thursday, I believe, is when they'll show it on ABC for like everyone that's not on. Okay. So they're not going at life tonight. So no, it's on the ESPN app live, but I believe it'll actually be shown like nationwide on cable, everything on Thursday. Okay. So tonight is closing ceremonies on the ESPN app. Yes. And then Thursday, it'll be the whole. This is what it is. Showcase. Some whoever wins tonight will probably be able to join the broadcast or whatever on the 13th or however they actually do it, but yeah, it should be awesome. So I couldn't touch my toes. So the presidential fitness test, that blue box beat me every single day. It really did. So it feels like they're having different options, you know, like three on three basketballs happening. I think there is also a tug of war option. It's tire obstacle course there. Yeah. They have all this. I assume pull ups and push ups. It's like if we can make this into a thing, we would like to be a part of making that thing for high school kids to want to be a part of because it would be no matter what sport you play. If you don't play a sport, if you're just one of the like a super fit cross fit type kid, having a chance to do that when money is a high schooler, especially now with NIL stuff happening, it's like, let's do, let's promote that. We would like kids to continue to do that, you know, stay active. They need to coach. Tressel does that. He's the lieutenant governor of Ohio. And I take part in this called the team Tressel Fitness Challenge to go around a bunch of different elementary schools all over Ohio. And I was able to go to school two of my kids go this past year and do it again where you go and give them these booklets and teach them how to work out and do things every single day. And then they come back and they get bronze silver or gold medals, depending on how they do. Let's go. Oh, yeah. Good for sport. Good for fitness. Good for you. Good for a world. They say big rain coming. Have you seen outside? Oh, yeah. The rain. It's in Ohio. It's in Ohio. That's for sure. Yeah. So, I thought it was done by now. Yeah. I looked outside. It's pitch black outside. Check the hourly. All right. Find your basement. Least about a windows. That's where you need to be. There are safe zones in everybody's house unless there isn't. Is this getting a bathtub, getting a bathtub, putting a mattress over top. Yeah. That's where you're safe from. Jack Car is here. Is this safe? No. I feel like we're in a very safe place actually. I do. I think so. All right. Yeah. We got a base there. A lot of brick. There is actually one in purchase this place. We found out that there is a storm shelter. No, I think a crypt. Kind of. Yeah, a crypt, like tombs down there. That's where Bill lives. Whoa. Like the Vatican. No, it's where he eats. Hmm. What's that? It's where he eats. I didn't know that. I didn't really think about the place as much as it seems like you guys have. So, that place down there that's kind of creepy and probably that's where people down there. Yeah. You know, Bill Fiesel. He used to run the church probably. I wish he put our eyes on this. Bill's going down there. Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought we had that thing locked. Isn't that why his room is right there? It's a door directly to his where he eats and has people. You know, he can't connect the dots looking forward, but you can certainly do that looking back. It feels like he picked that place. Didn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where was the jaws of life here? Yeah. Good question. I thought with you Bill. Me too, Bill. Me too, Bill. You guys do? Nah. That's my dog. Yeah. Oh. You fucked us, Bill. Yeah. He's the long way. I thought you said fuck that. That was the long way. Yeah. To America. The long walk. You and Bill, fuck with each other. A long way. Well, I don't know. Bad boys for life. It was on there, sweetie. Good morning. Be a friend to our friends. What? Which one? Both. Hey, Trigger. I've got the two. - Let's take a break on the other side. - Oh, yeah. - That's what I thought. I was about to say. We got President of UFC. - Yeah. - What are you talking about? - No, I'm just for horrible. - Yeah, 'cause I thought we were gonna go see Bill. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then we remember we have a chance to chitchat with President CEO of UFC. - Yeah. - Can I wait to do that, actually? - Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. - Every combo with him is electrifying. - Yes. - All right, Daniel White's on the other side. Be a friend to the other friend something nice. My change of life, take, fight it! - Fight it! - Hello beautiful people, and welcome back to our humble devotee, the Draft King's Thunderdome, on this storm in Patriotskin. Tuesday, August 11th, 2016. It's our three-the-progum begins now. - Fumble! - It's happening. That was one of our words that we've ever done, but it's because the storm outside is obviously getting very loud. There's some thunder. Thunder. Lightning and a thunder, thunder. That's AJ Hawke. He brought the thunder. The thunder. - Left hand. - We appreciate that, AJ. Talks to tables here at Boston Conor, and at Tye Schmidt. One of the hammer down! Cowboys AP Tonus here. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler here. - Yeah, sir? - TeeBot, it looks bad. - Yeah. - That's how I write it out. - Yeah, it's pitch black. - There's a lot of different storms and we get in South Florida, but they say fire. - Yeah, it's a little windy. None of the TVs are working. So if you are able to watch us still, we are very pumped up about that. Shout to our generator, you know? - Yeah, that's great. - Shouldn't do that too loud. These things are known to fail, you know? And right now they are operating efficiently. So we appreciate that. We hope you all are safe. And we are joined now, ladies and gentlemen, by an absolute legend. A man who's an American dream story. A man whose name is synonymous with combat sport. A man who will say whatever the hell he feels. Whatever the hell he feels. Because he's earned that right to be able to do as such. The CEO and the president of UFC. A man who founded the contender series, which has another episode tonight at 7 p.m. on Paramount Plus. A man who started the number series UFC 330 this weekend back in Philadelphia with Islam, headlining the card. Ladies and gentlemen, they know why. - Yay! (clapping) - How you doing, man? - What's up, buddy? How are you? - Good, what the hell is on your chest? What the hell is on your chest? (laughing) - What's that say? What is that? A tactical? - Delta! Come on, man. - Oh, that's a Delta Force. - Delta Force. - Oh, dogs! - Oh, dogs! - Absolute dogs, the Delta. I actually learned about the entire Delta Force a little bit more at Conor's wedding. Because there was an army ranger that was at the wedding. And the way he talked about the Delta folks, he was like, he's fucking nuts. - Yeah. - Absolute, let's see. - Glender and I are so. Definitely, very glad that they're on our side. Just like you, pal, huge weekend back in Philadelphia, back in Pennsylvania. Obviously, whenever you made this announcement, the governor came on our show to kind of proclaim his excitement. Can you tell me as we're just days away, you're from getting back to Philly and what your expectations are the weekend? - Yeah, well, I'm excited to get back to Philly. I've been there in a long time, so I'm actually flying there tomorrow. And Islam, magnitude of it. If he wins this fight, he breaks Anderson Silva's record for most title defenses. And obviously, it's tough as he is. Ian Gary is tough to take down, rape striking. If he can stay standing, he's gonna give Islam a hell of a night. - When you're putting these cards together, it's Philadelphia. John's are a little bit more rambunctious. Can you think about that with the style of fights for the Philadelphia people? Or how do you kind of piece these cards together at this stage of your career? - I love Philly fans, you know, I'm a self-expand. So every time I go to Philly, for Celtic games, they're the best. Always talking shit to me the whole time I'm there. When I come walking in, wearing my Celtic stuff, they're like, "You've got some balls wearing that here." You have to see socks as you know. That would be the entire game, I love it. - Yeah, Philly people are the best. And now that they have LeBron, I mean, they're only gonna get louder and stronger. I would assume so this weekend should be a spectacular environment. AJ has a question for you, Dana. - Dana, if Islam is able to get a victory here over gear, I guess where do you think this puts Islam? I'm sure you've heard this before in the whole goat conversation. All of that, where do you place him, I guess, and the annals of all the great set of come to the UFC? - Yeah, no, he's definitely in it. What I love about Islam is he just keeps his head down, keeps fighting, keeps winning. And, you know, when he keeps doing what he does, this whole goat thing's gonna play out on its own as, you know, right up until he retires. But he's definitely in the conversation. You know, he's the pound for pound best fighter in the world and one of the all-time greats, and possibly goat. - Okay, I like that. And anytime you say anything people are gonna get worked up about it, especially when you talk about your favorites. You know, whenever you talk about your favorites, whether or not it's a good style or not a good style, I think what you do is create a spectacle. I think you take a lot of pride in that. Obviously, I had Mexican Independence Day at the Sphere, which is spectacular. 250th celebration at the White House, outrageous. I mean, a storm split around the White House for you. And on that, no tie has a question for you. - Yeah, Dana, in both those instances, you know, people immediately were like, oh, Dana, this was incredible. You gotta do this again. And you were basically like, ah, fuck that. This was so, but it took forever. With that in mind, though, like, is there anything like that that you guys are like kind of throwing around right now, like another massive event like that? Or is that one of those kind of things where inspiration will strike? And you'll kind of just decide to do it because obviously, any time you guys do commit to something like that, regardless of how expensive it might be, like, it always delivers. - Thank you. And, yeah, I mean, there'll never be anything like the White House ever again. I mean, that night, we already had a high expectations for it, and I was blown away. It's the greatest thing that I've ever been a part of. Being there live was amazing. But now, my head of production, Craig Borsari, is so cocky after he absolutely killed that event. We are talking about something right now that he came up with. This was his idea. And I love it. I have to do some more groundwork on it. And if I end up doing this, I'll announce it here first. - We appreciate you all. - Yeah. - Thank you for that. So cool, you guys are going to the moon. You guys are going to go fight people on the moon. That's awesome, Dana. We're wondering who's going to be the first promoter to get up there. You being a moon fight would certainly be expected at this stage of everything. I can't wait to hear what your head of production does. And also, I like the way your head of production has to operate because you're not scared to go right up there. Graphics were wrong, lights were shit. This was this, production's got to get it together. I appreciate it, 'cause you know, we got Foxy back there. Foxy's starting to get a little bit, you know, big on his bridges as well. So I like the way you operate, Dana, the way your hands on with everything, your company seemingly continuing to grow. Bigger and bigger, go ahead, Connor. - Yeah, Dana, talking about Zufa boxing. How has that been going, especially as you kind of balance the other UFC events and playing in other massive events? Has that been a, you know, tough thing to deal with as well alongside the UFC or has that kind of been awesome being able to do that as well? - Yeah, it's been fun for me, actually. You know, I had always dreaded the idea of getting into boxing, 'cause I always felt like it was so broken and dirty and everything else, but it's actually been really fun. I've been having a good time with those in Ireland. Last weekend, we had a blast, and then now, Mexican Independence Day, you know, we have Connor Ben versus Ryan Garcia in Vegas. Tickets are almost sold out, so it's gonna be a big fight, and I'm really excited about that one. - Tell me about the boxing road, 'cause obviously you get massive names, a couple of different cards. You guys have been traveling the globe with this. How do you feel about getting back into the boxing road? I know you started, I think, in the boxing road, then obviously UFC kind of changes, getting back into the grind in the grime of the boxing road. How has it been, Garcia Ben's a huge, huge main event, obviously, as you continue to build? - Big, great. I've actually, like I said, I've loved it. I've had a good time with it, and, you know, the fact that we pulled this fight together and got it in Vegas Independence Day, we just, so that day, I have UFC Nojay in Arizona, so I'll be in Arizona, then I'll fly straight from there to Vegas for the Garcia Ben fight. So I'll have two fights that day. - Are you doing slap-fest on the plane, or what are you doing? - Oh, yes. - Yeah. - No, we're gonna, we're gonna give slap a break on that, on that week, but two fights on the same day is enough for me. - I'd say we can. - You can get two main events in the middle of the plane. I assume at this stage, you have KKO and UFC, you can line up two of those things. Starlink, too, with the web. - On top of the plane, yeah. - Yeah, maybe, maybe he could. - Go ahead. - Have you been on a plane with Starlink? - Dana, I won't get on a plane without Starlink. - I don't know if any more money or anything like that, but it's worth a whole each, yeah, right? - Yeah, it's the greatest. It is incredible. - Yeah, so we got super geniuses, obviously, on Earth with us right now. And one of them, not only created Starlink and everything else, maybe getting us to the moon, Yadda Yadda, Yadda. Another one created a website that was supposed to be hot or not, and then everybody signed up for it. And now he's a massive fight fan in Combat Sports Fan. Go ahead, dude. - Yeah, it's all about Zuck Zuckerberg. I know you are collabed with Meta, and you talked about how it was gonna bring and change the fan experience. How is that Meta apex out there, rain out there in Vegas, and what do we have coming next for fans? - Congratulations on this, by the way. - Yeah, thanks. We literally did a big unveiling yesterday for the media. And then today is the contender series. So it's gonna be my first live event at the new apex, and it's incredible. I'm looking forward to it. We had one on Saturday when I was in Ireland, and even my most jaded employees, Sean Shelby, who is actually Tom Brady's cousin, is one of our meds. makers and this guy to try to make this guy happier make him smile was almost impossible. He loved it the other night said the experience was incredible so I'm looking forward to it tonight on the contender series on Paramount plus. I love oh here we go again Sean Shelby okay I like that guy exists you know we have those guys in every business that have experienced the highs of highs and now they're worried about is not having the lowest of lows the apex obviously came to be during COVID it was one of the things that you thought of to keep the fights rolling you also got an island obviously in the Middle East to continue fight island and then the apex became a completely different fight experience for me as a casual watching I could hear the corner I could hear the shots the smacks then obviously whenever you do that a few hundred times everybody kind of gets a sick of it but you thought the intimate environment adds some fans we get the best of both worlds or how are you kind of how do you land on this apex becoming a full-blown venue at this point for things yeah so originally what happened was I was going to use the apex to program UFC fight pass and just 24/7 fights happening and basically this studio and then we're putting the last screw in the building COVID hit so you know it ended up we decided to make it an arena and now it is a legit arena here in Las Vegas you know when you think of T-Mobile or Legion all these up this is one of the one one of the most technologically advanced and and and beautiful arenas in the state in Nevada now so we'll be doing more than just UFC fights you know there'll be comedy shows their concerts and you know when you think about all these big conventions that come into Vegas and they want to do something on the strip and they need audio visual there's nothing on the strip that can compare to the meta apex so it's gonna become a real arena here in Nevada now everything from fights to concerts there's a new arena in town and this is it this place can do anything we can host fights comedy shows concerts were capable of handling anything that comes our way does Sean Shelby know that you guys gonna be hosting a lot of different shit cuz the audio for those concerts Sean's gonna be have to be fucking wire in that thing up that's gonna be a whole different animal I don't think Sean gives a shit about much but I like the new meta apex that I can tell you that's awesome well I I appreciate the hell out of you good luck with UFC 330 this weekend good luck with the contender series tonight at seven good luck with the apex obviously becoming a new venue alongside meta and I can't wait for the slap fest in a private plane from Noche all the way up to the Zufa boxing in Vegas you're the man Dana keep going brother love your boys thanks for everything hey Patriot games you know anything about this we're just not learning about this it seems sweet what did you know the Patriot games Patriot games oh fuck you don't know about them either we we just learn about this it's on ESPN I guess it's on our platform the government putting this together the fitness group I believe the council the sports council their high school kids attempting to win 250 thousand dollars in scholarships and like the old school fitness test type stuff it's called the Patriot games I think it's the first year they're trying to make it big Dana gonna need your brain on this so fucking come on it's brilliant I love it that's a great idea love it I think so too American Ninja Warrior little global guts in this thing get the high school kids active something to shoot for and win some money I this first year we need you thinking about this Dana maybe do it out there the minute okay sick cuz I'm selling to do it going forward no the man ladies are gentlemen that is a president and CEO of UFC Dana what actually I think that Patriot games thing is sick he didn't even know about it no idea we didn't even know about it no I don't like that who's that on gumpy yep well actually I mean none of us are in high school yeah so would you give a shit about it if you didn't you know like I guess our algo not bringing it up right bingo better time none of us are ninja wars that's a good point not yet none of us are ninja wars but there's a chance that Mackenzie or might as could potentially be young little mountain major wars yeah there's a lot of ninja programs around here that I'm not shit around everywhere yes really tons you can't be moving those pegs all like all the gymnastics places but yeah I mean our legs when I've talked about it but you know they do have incredible rock climbing bodies yeah functional yeah functional very functional yeah little finger tippies and cheese Louise so strong these things right here they can really get going the peg thing yeah so hard just staying like it's do the whole thing I don't know they're like don't worry about if we need to hang on something to save society we've been gone it's a good skill need those tell me let me know next time you go to one of those ninja places okay are you here to go pretty silly yeah I want to go to them I'm not going personally I try to be about cruise through more for kids I try I would like to do though yeah I want to try that thing here I want to do the eliminator and American gladiators that's the final six my cookie Dory no I think there's been adcrack there needs to be an agro crag in this yeah that's from global guts correct the American gladiators does have mount would you do it my Dory I'm yeah that's okay that's what we need yeah what's that AJ what's the mount what it mount what is that from what show is that just you'll never get it it feels like I think they're just make you sit up no I've never heard the mic talk about that on America that's not a war yeah you heard Kabir Baja be a mill talk about it make a former team he's the best the best warrior ninja they have you ever seen him go through that in his suit yes I'll be able he's a hell of warrior ninjas yes he is he's maybe one of my best warrior ninjas that I could think of Chris Farley number two one of the goats no doubt about it what's going on I just saw a couple fire engines and a police car going this way with their lights on so I wonder if I got big tree branch or something fell on somebody's house all hell is really broken loose outside yeah feels like mother nature says how about you guys experience a little bit of hell yeah I can see the road though so it looks like calm down yeah they're still driving they said wind blew over a car in Ohio Columbus yeah yeah crazy this is what we need at the end of the Patriot games this right here this aggro craves yeah if a high school there wants to win a hundred thousand dollars in scholarships they're going to have to get through fuck is that the aggro craves that's the final bomb I don't know much about this either you don't know Michael Mallion Mo setting up both my results no what that didn't I don't know that didn't make it into my algorithm number one show on Nickelodee growing up global that's one of our summer's had the number one show on double double double there was a good show literally right back there back to back I can't believe you do you know anything about the uh park bear kudos fuck the ledges of the hidden sample yeah I do not you're crazy man he is crazy yeah what did you watch did you watch anything salute your shorts I watched that okay I'm on I want to do it at the same time frame yeah dude I'm confused I didn't put my VHS in and try to record it you watch what was it no I never really saw many animated things that's animated right Tommy pickles come on yeah about super dark Doug is the one one cartoon class you don't know anything about this guy I don't I don't I only know it through you guys you guys got years ago got mad at me not know what the aggro craves that's all back dude that's mac that's mac yeah that's close sides yeah I knew the name you will have to figure out how we have Bailey McCombs running an ninja warrior course here in Indian apple yeah yeah I have to see this yeah Bill has been doing two days to try to get ripped up and yoked up for the last couple of years I think it has worked hi my name is Bailey McCombs I'm from Bob Tom show this is American Ninja Warrior try out okay Bill that good luck out there man thank you guys they used to call me big motor I should be able to do pretty good good luck Bailey represent us well you got it does it go thanks for trimming the video yeah is he do this at all or great Bill ladies and gentlemen representative Bob and Tom show and Mori's comedy Mexican food place from bostate bamboo commas good oh that's a tough spell wait a minute all cracking okay yeah big motor they're taking him out of his game he needs to be stride and not leap and boom he hangs on though can you do it I bet if you did it now he'd do much better that's a tough course they've set that up tough that was for the actual show I believe so actual ninjas were doing that okay they asked local people if they want to come by I think at that time Bailey was working for the Bob and Tom show so the Bob and Tom show was obviously offered up spots and they said fucking oh I thought he waited a lot all night long those pads aren't very softy that's like grip tape like skateboard grip tape good fuck yeah really good Drop me up real good. He said, oh, you know, on that day, he decided he was gonna get in shape. And now we have Alamakoma, so he's known as Bill who you can find it. You're a 24 hour gym. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he happens to be in your time because he's hitting it and he's eating straight meat, the mouth. Whoa, pro team, man, it's all this guy's got time for you. I got you don't want to look like this. He is so fine as wind. I think one, but Bill, Bill will see round two with this thing. That's what you should. Yeah. I've never seen pot more than right there. 40 degrees that day. So cold. I think it was middle of the morning too. Like 4 a.m. 5 a.m. maybe 6 a.m. Yeah. Yeah, they offered it up to us, I believe at this time. I thought so too. And it was. But he didn't qualify. You know, he was up there. They put him up on there for a couple of seconds. And then I think living Indie came in and you know, they got past that first. Yeah. Sand papers. Yeah. Big Joe Stacey act fucking zip right through it. No, you know who it was. Who? You know who? This is our cult. Oh, the flow. I said the flow. I'm a director setting time. Yeah. There was everybody out there. We weren't able to make his house come back from a knee injury, I believe. I was hurt. Yeah. He sent us a time like 2 30 a.m. or something could do that on like a Thursday. Yeah. Now that I let me deflose been bringing it since then. Yeah. He's famous. Yeah. He still is. He got a new haircut. Excited for him. Excited for the cold season, especially after we just beat the ass in the pads today. Yeah. Join practices. That didn't happen. But yeah. Sauce then like you guys posting that. No. I saw a tweet from somebody. All it is from a one, one, one, one, one. It's a little hitch route. Oh. Oh, eight yard catch. Fucked up. Tag them. Tag them. 312. We're off the field. Yeah. Exactly. Who knows where the sticks were. Saus does. Duh. He does. He made tackle. And then guess what happened the rest of the day? Well, scrap. That's what he said. He said. Oh, it's from a one on one route. And an eight yard sit route. That's a reason. That's the only one you all saw. That's the only one there was reportedly. But yeah, I bet what he's saying is something else. Yeah, what he's saying is. Yeah. Where's your seatbelt afterwards. That's where he said he found it. He won't like guess where it so he could breathe a little bit. Yeah, sure. But he still got. Still strapped. Yeah, still strapped around there. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And he said the only reason we saw one is because our social thing doesn't fucking do this. Yeah. What is the deal? Colts win the day they say. Don't see anything. You can see it. God damn thing. They had to have posted something by now. Seven on seven. Let's put more to Merrick in that copper. Whatever they were doing. It's turmeric. We got a video. We got a video from the Colts. Oh, dominating. And yeah, Josh Towns is open. And yeah, blowing out and seven on seven. Okay. I look at it. Nobody's near him. The routing is ran. There we go. We're outs on it. We got. Oh, it is. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. That's all right. Now that's it. That's seven on. They're playing one. Look. Oh, right there. Yeah, rolling out and seven on seven. If there's two QBs throw at the same time, I'm guessing there's not a defense. No, yeah, they're getting efficient working. That defense right there. Did you see that ball? Oh, my God. I like how DJ slaying it. What are the odds or Colts win? Super. Please right now. They just went up. Oh, maybe I post 12,000. Hmm? No, that's not what they're at. 6,000. Excuse me. Yeah, that's what they were at. So now they're plus 200 now. What? Yeah, after practice. That's right. Plus 200. You might be looking at the wrong one. No, they say they showed the practice. Odds and lines are subject to change. We do not know if Towns look at the right thing. This graphic says it's no plus 6,000 for the Colts win. Okay. Yeah, we'll trust that over me. What's the over under? What's the over under for the Colts wins this year? It just jumped to 13 and a half. After the practice, I'm telling you, they are super favorite, and 13 and a half is the over. Odds and lines are subject to change the graphics to 7 and a half though on DraftKey plus sports book on Earth. What was this made before or after practice? Yeah, you're right. Who knows if DraftKey's is going to have to adjust after what we're seeing right there. Don't fizz through the half! Cardinals. Tough, tough schedule for the fence this year. Browse, five and a half. Jets, five and a half, and that might go down after today's joint practice. Yeah. Good luck to the Rams. 11 and a half. That's a lot of games. It's high expectations. Seattle Seahawks are in your division. Got them twice. They're going to win 10 and a half games. Well, how the Rams going to win 11 and a half then? Niners. Nine and a half. It's under ten. I believe they play the AFC West as well. That could be wrong. How about the Pittsburgh Steelers? Eight and a half. That'd be the best, you know. Part for the course. Actually, that would be actual par. Yeah, tough schedule. I believe I like that. That would be a par score. Eight and a half out of 17 games. Yep, right on the money. Because maybe one under a few. Yeah, if you go seven, seven. You can get in plus one ten. Have more wins the Vikings. Locked that one in. Kyle Murray now says started it. It sounds like he's bashing him a little bit. Let's get the hell out of here. Got the Patriot games tonight live on ESPN. Super duper. That's right. Yeah, you can connect that to your YouTube TV now, I believe. So good. If I can drop into my four bucks, I'll be very grateful. That's your how it works. But I think it's going to be a pre-packed Austin. Like the Patriot games. I don't know where it is actually. Uh, Spire Academy, I think. I assume they are drug testing. Shouldn't no drug test kids. Definitely can. Don't you drug test kids? I mean, isn't that something that happened to high school kids? No, no, no, no. We did so many steroids. I watched that documentary, Benny and the Royce. Do you remember that? Yeah, that was to not do it. But it had the opposite effect. No, it did not. Like the dip presentation? Yes. The bingo. The dip presentation at Plum High School created the Copen Heathens, which was a band. Yeah. Yeah. And that's just how our school reacted. But I would like our school and other schools to have the opportunity to compete in these Patriot games. This could be something very good for athletic people, especially, um, you know, if you just have a unique talent of being able to do a shit ton of pushups, like I think you should be able to benefit. I think we should be showcasing that. I'm excited for it. I don't know what it is currently, but I am excited for whatever it becomes because it looks like everybody's kind of investing in it. I know he has been in Disney and ABC. So hopefully it continues to grow. Um, Benny and the Royce just pulled that up. That was trip down memory lane. Yeah, it was good pool. Do you watch this in high school? Do you remember Benny? Was this Ben Affleck? Like after school special thing? No, I don't think Ben Affleck was a part of this. And Benny was just the name of the guy. And Ben Affleck was a part of the great after school, special about juicy. He got really upset and he got all juice down. He started blasting his shoulder on the ground. I remember watching it. It is a thing, but you guys are probably too young. Is this what this is? Then because this was I don't know. Maybe I don't remember it being Ben Affleck. Old people might around my age know the Ben Affleck one. Well, you know, Benny and the Jets is obviously very well known from back in the day. You know, Benny and the Jets? No, I just remember. The only thing I remember about Royce is the young kid is like a major ball small. Yeah, Steve Gans was like Benny Zimmer, not Ben Affleck. Yeah, major ball small. That was that was that was wearing a street high pitch voice. So you know what that worked for me. Yeah, I'm going to stay away from that. But the Royce was that Ben Affleck? No, Steve Hans. Imagine if they started a rumour that said it made your dog bigger. How many kids have been? Oh, a lot of them. Listen, 100% so many. Yeah, but they did the right thing going the other way. You want a tiny little tiny little balls of things? I could be alive. It's not bad idea. Yeah, Jesus. Let's go move. I just test it. Great. Hey, listen, we can't tell these kids that it's definitely going to kill them. Everybody that's done this stuff ends up in a bad spot. They won't listen. They don't care. They don't think they can die. They're too young. What are these kids care about? They don't want to have a tiny little small dick. Yeah, you get a small dick. You're not doing that. They're going to get mocked and ridiculed by everybody for the rest of their lives. All right, fucking run it. Send it. That one viral before. Yeah, because we all heard the same thing. High pitch voice. You can sound like a little girl and you're going to have a tiny tiny little dick and small balls have what happens to you if you do this. Sure you want to do it. They kept us away. It did. It really went a great, what a great true, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, modern science for adults. Hopefully, these young kids, you know, obviously, what a time to be alive, lucky to be here. This has been he getting under it on bench. And what happened was he was publicly really cool because he couldn't move it as many times as his friends. Look at a sure ball. Yeah, but then he did always it he. It looks like Shrego, you mean. He did, but he did to 25, 25 times. At the end of the movie. Yeah, getting the movie was only two times he was getting mocked and ridiculed. He got pissed. And he was the coolest kid in school. It was good. That was really benefited him in that movie. No, but then he got super angry. Obviously, you remember that. You missed that whole part. Yeah, we got a D1 scholarship. I think you got taken away because he broke some locks. That's one. I think you missed the end. Fucking ladder. You missed the end of - The end of the movie. There was a time I might have to go to the bathroom or something. There was a massive crash at the end That's where they're like little dong and the whole thing. That's where they got you I like to use selective listen to that entire thing in the query. I got you know Jack Shouldn't be doing that all right. Let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow for the Patriot games Live on ESPN super duper. Yeah Let's get out of here Look at the wind It's gone. Good luck to everybody dealing with this wind. It has calmed down a bit. It's right If it wasn't for the wind in my face, I wouldn't be able to fly I'm not sure. Said the Wright Brothers plane And then Venetary would say that and force us to kick into the wind every fucking day And I told him I wasn't a plane. I was a man trying to kick a football Well, so if we turn this around And maybe pump faster or fly faster with the wind And that's why he's in a whole thing And I'm not But on that note Wind is something that is ever present and you cannot see it But it's something that we need to believe in you need to feel And we need to understand on the other side of the wind It's the best weather we've ever experienced. That's true. The wind brings the bad See also Clear's that shit out. Yeah So if you've got some bad times happen to know some good times coming and it might be in the form of Vicious In the middle of the storm and the wind it's hard to keep your eye on the future But never forget that it's coming and when it comes So are you hell? Yeah, be your friend telling friend something nice In my change in life Wanting to sing together Thank all those you For following along ain't the right AJ That is correct. The wind's coming. So are you? That's right. You're going to That's what's all about sure Well, I don't know your style. You don't I don't know what medicine's going. I don't know what you're doing. I should take a step away Yeah Might be sure no quicker for you. Mm-hmm. That's what they say at least Bill, Bill, Bill, that's all we're doing with this life. There are we no butter and modes Are you ready AJ we're dancing? We're trying to motivate all of you All right be a friend tell friend something very nice. It might change your life. We're understanding together Album coming out Thursday night midnight The diary of a polarizing figure. I do not believe we're going to be doing any shenanigans for any of it Just know that I took a lot of time out of my life To share share these notes that I've taken over the last 20 years and I'm pre-proud of it I'm pre-proud of what we got and I'm very thankful that it's all kind of uh Done. It was a lot of work. He's in the barn. Yeah. Oh you Ilia This man down in Nashville is an absolute stallion mark home and sat earnest jelly belly All the people that have helped me through this entire role. I appreciate the hell out of them and uh I think we got a good little thing coming out. I think there's some bangers on there Here we go. I think there is some bangers. Oh, yeah. I think there's some good songs in there some good writing I hope people will say in there and uh maybe some uh Stuff that gets you through the day, which is all we're trying to do You guys shoulders getting tired. I'm watching it happen real never a little bit I've been kind of just right here the whole time this is on hard knocks tonight. See how to see hogs Offensive line versus defensive line. Mm-hmm. Two sledgehamers each who's gonna break not us never So you guys tomorrow be a friend. Teleference. I'm nice. My changer life one or something the other team on me team on three for the Goodest sport, baby. One two three team go

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Joint practices are highly revealing, showcasing team dynamics, player skills, and depth across the roster, especially for non-star players.
  2. The New England Patriots are dominating social media with aggressive highlights, creating intense fan reactions and pressure on opponents like the Colts.
  3. AJ Brown and Christian Gonzalez are in a heated, competitive training environment, highlighting the Patriots’ elite defensive depth.
  4. Alec Pierce’s injury and rehab status remain uncertain, with limited updates and no confirmation of return by Week 1.
  5. The Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers are making roster moves, with significant attention on defense and quarterback development.
  6. Nick Bosa is dealing with post-ACL soreness, and his recovery process is being managed with focus on mental adjustment.
  7. Tyler Murray has been named the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, fulfilling long-held hopes and shifting the team’s offensive direction.
  8. A new rule allows for alternate challenge flaggers, with potential impacts on decision-making and game flow.
  9. Hard Knocks is making a comeback with strong fan reception, especially in coverage of under-the-radar teams like the Seahawks.
  10. Teams are using joint practices not just for physical preparation but to build competitive energy and evaluate depth, particularly in the bottom half of rosters.

Summary:

Joint practices across the NFL are proving to be pivotal moments for evaluating team readiness, depth, and competitive edge. The New England Patriots are dominating social media with aggressive, high-impact highlights, particularly in one-on-one drills between elite corners like AJ Brown and Christian Gonzalez, signaling their defensive strength. Meanwhile, the Indianapolis Colts are cautious, recognizing their challenges against a top-tier team, especially with Alec Pierce still in rehab and no confirmed return for Week 1.

The Minnesota Vikings have officially named Tyler Murray as their starting quarterback, fulfilling long-standing fan hopes after a competitive camp. On the defensive side, the Green Bay Packers are investing in leaders like Quentin Williams, whose defensive IQ and leadership are being praised. Injury updates, including Nick Bosa’s post-ACL soreness and the new challenge flag rule allowing alternate flaggers, show how teams are adjusting to both physical and procedural changes.

The NFL’s new challenge review system has reduced game delays and improved efficiency, while the return of Hard Knocks has generated excitement, especially with in-depth coverage of teams like the Seahawks. Overall, these early practices reveal not only player performance but also team culture, depth, and strategic planning—highlighting that while competition is fierce, preparation and adaptability remain central to success.

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Joint practices allow teams to evaluate their players against opponents, showcasing their skills and strategies in a real-game setting. They provide valuable insights into team depth, performance, and how players adapt to different defensive and offensive schemes.

Social media highlights can significantly influence fan sentiment, often amplifying both praise and criticism. Teams like the Patriots frequently post high-impact clips, which can energize fans but also create pressure or fuel negative comparisons with other teams.

Alec Pierce is still in rehabilitation after surgery and has not received a second shot. While he is expected to return for Week 1, his availability remains uncertain, and teams are monitoring his progress closely.

Rookies like Tyler Warren gain valuable experience through one-on-one drills and two-minute drills during joint practices. These sessions help them understand game situations, improve route-running, and build confidence in high-pressure scenarios.

The NFL now allows teams to designate one person to throw the challenge flag, reducing reliance on head coaches. This change aims to streamline decision-making and improve efficiency in instant replay reviews.

While joint practices can be intense, teams emphasize a positive environment through pre-practice meetings. Coaches stress that the focus is on performance, not fights, and most teams maintain control to avoid conflict.

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