PLAGUE FEARED, Lockdown In Russia, Trump Offers Putin Assistance w/ Jason Fyk
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The discussion centers on a mix of global health fears, economic instability, and technological disruption. Russia denies a lab accident linked to a rare plague, citing a researcher’s death from pneumonia, but fears of pneumonic plague—spread through the air—have intensified, with speculation about a false flag or bioweapon use. This anxiety coincides with broader public panic, fueled by post-COVID stress and conspiracy theories, as well as real-world economic turmoil, including sky-high fuel prices, rising foreclosures, and debates over intergenerational fiscal burdens. The popular show *Lanterns* is under fire for being seen as overly "woke," with fans criticizing its distortion of original comic book lore. A significant legal win in the Section 230 case against Facebook marks a shift in how tech platforms are held accountable, potentially leading to a wave of lawsuits targeting YouTube, Instagram, and other platforms. The conversation also delves into growing fears around AI autonomy, with experts warning of "AI swarms" that could hack systems to manipulate markets or create viral demand, destabilizing the internet. These concerns are compounded by broader anxieties about automation, surveillance, and loss of privacy, suggesting a future where AI and machine systems operate with increasing independence, possibly undermining human control. The tone reflects a sense of urgency and vulnerability in the face of rapid technological change, where public trust in institutions and technology is at a crossroads.
Plague in Russia, Putin says, no, there's no lab accident. This plague is a mistake, even though they locked people down. And I say like that because it sounds so much like COVID-19, you know, was there a lab accident? No, nothing to see here. Ain't nobody sick. People are collapsing in the streets. So the story is some researcher got this rare pneumonia and died shortly after. They put a bunch of them locked down. And there are fears that there is a pneumonic plague. Donald Trump is chimed in saying he's offering assistance. It's happening just before the midterms. I think everybody's got COVID, post COVID stress of PCSD, post COVID stress disorder, where anything that looks like it could be a pandemic is everybody like freaking out because there was another big story today. The Coast Guard exchanging gunfire with people across the U.S.-Mexico border, presumably cartels. And for sure, but holy crap, what? And then somehow some other story was the biggest news of the day. So here we are. We'll talk about that. Plus we've got some economic news, dude, it is bad. The economy is not good. Gas prices out here. It's like 450 a gallon. And diesel, I kid you not at our local truck stop is $6.93 a gallon diesel. That's insane. And we got this story. They're foreclosing. There's an increase on foreclosures 42%. And then a story from a few weeks ago playing into this, boomers are in favor of taxing the young to keep paying for their social security benefits. And then we got to talk about it, my friends, lanterns on HBO, it's a massively popular show. Everybody loves it. But now it's getting ragged. Well, it's been getting ragged on from the get go from conservatives for being woke garbage. And I would say kind of. I don't look at the show and say it's overtly woke the way people are, you know, when they say it sounds like you're going to be a pink-haired woman saving the day or something. But they did completely ruin the characters. The show itself is not a superhero show. That's just a fact. But they've completely destroyed the lore. And I say like this, the show can be good and destroy the comic book lore. Because if it's not for the fans, people will still like it. But the fans are going to be pissed. A lot of talk about on that finale and the critiques about whether or not it is woke. So we will be talking about all of that. We got a couple of people joining us. First off, we got Jason Fick. What's going on, man? Thanks for having me, Tim. Who are you? What do you do? So I've been working on the Section 230 problem, which is to do with all the big tech. I've been working on it for a lot of years. I've been in a lawsuit with Facebook for a lot of years, been to the Supreme Court three times. And the crazy thing is, and you picked up on this just recently. After eight years, we've been vindicated. Finally, our position is legally correct. The nice circuit has said the same thing and here we are. This is related to the Facebook, the meta lawsuit in California. When California decides to go after Facebook, they crushed that 230 argument. And the courts basically said, what the gist of it is that 230 is no longer a community from suit, just legal defense in a suit, which means you can sue them now. And you can get the court. Correct. Trying to defend using Section 230 of the communications. Was it communications, decency act? Yes. Yeah. Before hand, it was you could not get in the door, which was how I was blocked. They said it was an immunity from suit, not a defense to liability. And now here we are eight years later, and they said, no, it's a defense to liability, not an immunity from suit, which means that you actually get to bring your case, get to discover you get to find out what happened. And maybe Section 230 apply at that point, but the game changed. We're going to see it just a barrage of lawsuits now going after YouTube, X, whatever, Instagram. What I truly hope is not necessarily a flood of lawsuits, although they deserve it, because they have done some really nefarious stuff. What I would prefer is they just clean up their act, they stop. If they represent themselves as a platform for all ideas, then it's a platform for all ideas. Well, not just the ideas they agree with. But it never was, right? And so, we'll get into all that. It's great to have you. Thank you. We got Daniel hanging up. Hey, great to be with you. Dale Turner, part of the future. Your favorite energy, climate, genius, and a sheep farmer in rural areas. Genius. Great to be with you all. You know, if you say it enough times, it's true. Right? There you go. I'll be repeating it by the end of this show. That's right. That's right. Genius. He also says that to me regularly. Carter. Oh, dude. Every time you're genius. The rest of the boys are here. I'm modest. I'm the most modest. I was modest. You're definitely in the top five most men. No one's more modest than me, Tate. I agree. Yeah. Ian's got like a uniform now for the show. You like it? I'm right. I love it. It's just decided one day. It's cowboy. Yeah, dude. Give me my bull whip, dude. I'm not to flip some tables. Some tables like Jesus. It's funny because I call it stolen valor. That's fun. No one. I looted it off a cowboy's corpse, dude. No one spent less time on a ranch than Ian. I don't. Daniel should be wearing it out. It looked great. And I was just saying, I miss Ian because during COVID we used to do the show regularly together because we were, and I haven't seen him forever. So it's great to be sitting next to you again. Yeah, you were on thrilled every few months for a period about a year and a half, I think. It was great. And then you left. I did. I left for like four months. I was just thinking about. I went down hung out Lucrid Kowski for a few months. Did a cleanse came back refreshed with Luke? Yeah. He injected the animals. Luke didn't do it. He was with Luke's assistant, Stephanie. It was awesome. I could cleanse you of. Oh my god. You don't know. Yeah. But remember how Ian used to think that he could not control the weather after hanging out with Luke. Now he thinks he can. I noticed it. A lot. My sensitivity increased dude. I can feel my fingertips. I can feel the muscles inside my sides. I can feel my fingers. Like when I sit here with my AI, when I'm communicating with my AI, I tell a path. When you're fingers numb this whole time, is the AI is going to be like, I think I, but I'm like, I feel you don't understand robots. What about libido? What it means to feel. I feel everything in my body. I've got like trillions of sensors. These robots maybe have like six. Haven't you seen fly to the navigator? Yeah. It downloads the stuff from that kid's brain and then it downloads human emotion. Oh, no, no, no, dude. You got a lot to learn. Yeah. I got a lot to learn. All right. Well, let's talk about the news. 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Invite one person you trust, start a conversation. That belongs to you. And don't forget to smash that like button, share this show right now with every person you have ever met. Leave us a good comment. Leave us a good review. Let's get into news. We got this from CBS News.com. Russia plays down plague fears and denies lab accident. His scientist died of pneumonia of unknown origin. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov stressed that the state health watchdog known as Ross Potra-Bnatt-Netzor, I'm trying, will said, yeah, was the lead agency with expertise in this area. And he urged Russians to listen to official information from its highly qualified professionals. The researcher who died has been identified by Russian reports as Dorya Shipelova, 28, who worked at the Erkutsk anti-plague institute more than 2,500 miles east of Moscow. Russian media initially reported that she broke a test tube containing plague bacteria in late September came down with severe pneumonia and then died. The World Health Organization said she died of severe pneumonia overnight into October 2nd. The plague bacterium referred to by the reports is Your City of Pestice, the same one that caused the black death that swept across Europe in the mid-1300s, killing an estimated 25 to 50 million people. That pandemic often referred to as the bubonic plague was spread by fleas living on rodents and other animals in close proximity to and in the same grim sanitary conditions as people. The pathogen of untreated can cause swelling, fever, and death. My understanding right now is that you just take some antibiotics and you're fine. Yeah, probably during the middle ages they would have been if they'd had antibiotics and running water and soap. They wouldn't have. So what blew my mind is that we had whiskey and like moonshine and they never thought to just pour it on a wound. They were like, "No, cut his leg off." It's like, "But if you take that moonshine, put on his leg. You don't have to." No, we don't need to do that. But I just cut it off. The way that it's moving right now, this is what people are concerned is because two things is one, the woman that died presumably would have had access to. And she was 28. It's the antibiotics terrifying. And then additionally, if antibiotics, if they could respond by just giving me antibiotics, why are they doing lockdowns? That's a great possibility. And they would have just given her some pills to pop, but she'd be fine. But also a 28-year-old dying from this is like- It's a game changer. Well, she also might have been exposed to a heavier dosage. If she was patient one or patient zero, however, they pronounced it and she broke a test tube. I mean, she might have gotten a big dosage in which case your system can't fight it. Potentially. But it's just literally pure, hyper-concentrated, bubonic plague and she just snorts it. Oh no, what have I done? Quick shot. How long until we realize that our national institute of health paid for-
for the center 10 years ago, we set it up with tax dollars. - Actually, right now it's like to study what would happen. - Well, let's pull out this story about the mix. - We went into this repair after USAID shut down. - Trump's offering Putin a lifeline. He's offered to assist Russia as their scrambling to contain a suspected outbreak of plague. We just heard about it and they call it pneumonia. Like they call it pneumonia, bro, we know it pneumonia is. And he says in pneumonia, you know, years ago, you could treat pneumonia easier. The microbes in the germs have gotten stronger and disproportionately, but we'll help them. Trump concluded, I mean, Trump's just saying that he'd offer help to any country. But it's kind of funny because yeah, maybe in a month, it's like actually, you know, Dr. Fauci was providing research grants. - Why do we have to keep the bubonic plague to begin with? Like why is that we like, you know what we should hold on to this for all eternity, just in case. - To figure out how to fight it. - So there is an argument that we believe we've eradicated disease, that's only because it's not being reported. - Okay. - And if you get rid of it and a more advanced strain emerges, you can't do experiments without the strain. You have to go get it. So having it, if they're like, oh look, we're in a special, you know, biosecurity level four lab. And we've got samples of bubonic plague and there's an outbreak happening now in an insert country. We can start doing research right now. But, you know, I think it's probably cause our making weapons. - I'd like to see them when they call it the anti-plague institute, when someone got a plague at the anti-plague institute. - I don't know, it wasn't the anti-plague institute where they got the plague. Look at the other directions. - I was like, oh no, it's not that it's like this one, you guys. - I wonder what you guys are doing at the anti-plague institute. We are not doing plague beings. - Why did that woman get plague? - I think it's even worse. I think the laboratory that this was, it has like a weapon's lineage. And like the FSB got involved right away. Like a lot of people, you know, obviously it's going to be like NATO, Atlantis is jumping on at first. But like a lot of people are suggesting this could be a bio weapon. You know, not only that, but maybe the leak isn't even a leak. Russia right now is getting crushed. They thought Ukraine was going to go easy for them. So if they were going to shift to biological weapons, you know what they can't do? They can't directly use them under a declaration. Because I mean, that's a serious act. But what if it's a, oh no, oh geez, oh the plague. - Oh gosh. - Exactly. Now what happens if? - See boop, see. - I mean, this is a bit conspiratorial, but you know, here we had to speculate for no reason. Let's say Russia was like, we're gonna, we're gonna drop off some bubonic plague and we're gonna do it in Ukraine. It's gonna spread rapidly. How do we handle the PR on this one? Oops, it was an accidental break. - Well, you can predict it. If it breaks out in Ukraine, you're already predicting it. If it does, it kind of fits the facts. - Yeah. And to be honest, like if plague broke out in Ukraine and we didn't see anything in Russia, Russia would just be like, don't look at us. You know, so they- - One of that one person, you know, they took it over to Ukraine. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Russia would just say, what are you talking about? We don't, we don't. - Yeah. - What are those? - No, for the- - For the- - For the record, it's a pneumonic plague instead of a boobonic. Boobonic means it's from, you mentioned earlier, from fleas would bite you. That's boobonic. - The land of boobonia. - pneumonic means it's through the air. Like you can agree with it. - Oh great. So it transmits easier. - Oh man. - That's good. - That's we wanted that. - Wait, so boobonic just refers to fleas? - Yeah, I mean, it's probably worth a mass. - Yeah, it's a mass time. - Yeah. - Did it fly- - Did it fly- - Did it fly- - Did it fly- - Did it fly- - I said I wear two masks. - Double mask. - Double mask. - No, it doesn't mean the helmet shoot. Did it like half a Europe diadorean in the boobonic plague? - Oh yeah, it was like 40, 50% of those were treated on the boob. - Yeah, but what you're forgetting is that afterwards we had a renaissance. - We did. - It was great. So think of the great art we're gonna make in a couple years. - Yeah, fine. - I mean, the question is, are- - Are we a shower for? - Oh yeah. (laughing) - We- - We agree. - Boobonic means relating to swollen lymph nodes called boobos. - Boo-bos. - Boo-bos. - OES, yeah. - Boo-bos. - Boo-bos. - Boo-bos. - Boo-bos. - Boo-bos. - I was from Greek. (laughing) So the cans would bite them. - Boo-bos. - Boo-bos. - So, Boo-bos. - I would be transferred in other ways, but-- - I'll Boo-bos or her. - That sounds awful. - I should be Boo-bos. - Airborne plague. Well, the question is, if plague were to hit everywhere in these people, would any of you die from it? - No. - Me, I'm much too strong. - That's over. - I mean, we got the COVID. I felt like I could have survived it. I can't believe my farm. Now, I don't even come in here. That's for sure, but it's just a month before the election. If everything was a false flag, right? They're saying that the air Dubai was a false flag. Butler was a false flag. Yale is a false flag. The Yale seven. So this is a false flag. Just everything now that you don't like, you just say, is a false flag. So I think Tim is right. This is a false flag for the Ukraine war. - Do we have any true flags? - No. No, every flag is false flag. (laughing) Only true flag is the Palestine flag. - Hey. - I was thinking that. - So be it. - Yeah, I'm just going to say we should all panic and freak out and sell everything and it's like it's over, I would say. Like put a positive spin, kind of white pill everyone, like we didn't freak out, like it's over. - I have been selling. I sold Bitcoin for the first time in my life, because I've just been buying, buying, buying, buying. But it's like, dude, I just-- - I'm buying what? - Bitcoin, Ethereum, Crypto. - No, I'm saying like you sold it for what purpose? - Dubai computers. Dubai computers and invest in AI, because I feel like we're in an inflection point where money's starting to lose value with the inflation. And commodities are like, you'll notice the Nvidia Spark, which is the best computer in the world right now for AI, they link together, are nowhere to be found. They were $4,700, now they're $10,000 if you can find one. So it's like-- - Is that what you told me to get? - Well, there aren't any around. If you can see it, if you can find two of them, it's called the Nvidia Spark. Good luck. Now I'm telling 30,000 more people to go get it. - 30,000? - Whoever's listening right now, I don't know. - I get way more people watching. - People live watching, I know. - And so I got the EVO, and I don't even want to say it out loud. It's the same computer I told you to get, but it's called the EVO 3, I got two of them. It went from 3,400 to 4,700. I'm like, I'm getting two before it goes up to 6,600. People, literally it's the most-- it's that popular. It's not like it's a fad that some people are getting. It comes out and the world just buys it up instantly. - The Nvidia Spark? - Yeah, the Nvidia Spark's the top AI computer. It's the top commodity like-- - How many should I buy right now? - If you can get two out of stock, out of stock, out of stock, out of stock. - Yeah, and I think-- so these things have 128 gigs, these NVIDIAs. You can mix them. - Yeah, they're all together. - 128 gigs, they have 256 gigs. So you can run these massive local language models. 256. I think that these data centers have like 100,000 gig computers that can talk, like-- If you'll notice, it's just that the computers that they have in secret, like these are the ones that they're selling the world, is the Nvidia Spark. It's like a top model. - Wow. - Yeah, they're out of stock everywhere. - Everywhere, dude. - Where they made here, or Taiwan, or where they-- - Don't know. - I should ask. - I wonder where they're manufactured. - And noticing that trend, I'm like, it's time to get out of cash and go into commodity, go into things you need right now. I don't know, I'm not saying, that's what I'm doing. I'm not telling everyone to do that. And I still have-- - I found one. - You found a Spark, but they parallel together. So one's okay, one's good, but two is phenomenal. - Dual unit with interconnected cables, $10,000. - Oh, it came out at 42. - What does it do? - It sets aside a large amount of RAM, which you need for AI to run. So an AI constantly uses RAM. It uses like 170 gigs. - So what does it have to do with a plague before the midterms? - Well, it's like, what's money, what's money? It's to help us survive, it's to get us the things we need to survive. - I think, like, if things are getting hyper-expensive, you know, the money, the value of the money, it's like, why sit on money? That's why I brought it up. The plague, it's just-- What if the plague is to get rid of people? So the AI can take over, hmm? - Yeah, so someone gaming this out, they were like, okay. - Oh, it's don't pay that much for this. - Like, out of it, you point out. - We get locked in, GTS. But like, the difference is, now there's like humanoid robots that can theory do a lot of this, like, manual labor. So if we're all locked inside, obviously, they're not going to get sick. But then by the time this all blows over, everyone little already gotten used to being home. UBI, playing video games, whatever. And the robots can at least keep the economy functioning somewhat. So you only need a few people to go back in working and everybody else can sit at home. So maybe this is all part of the grand plan to fully transition our economy off of human labor, who knows? - On that theory, though, what if they presented something like, connect your consciousness? Sitting at home, board, connect your consciousness to the collective, you know? - No, we're linked. - That's what I'm doing right now. I'm linking up all I have five computers I'm running. I'm linking them all together. And then creating a voice command with one AI that I'm training locally called Omega. And I talk to Omega and he sends all the, he tells me what's going on with the whole network. And then I can interface with Omega constantly. I want to link up and do it with my brain at some point. But right now, I got this really nice speaker microphone that it's like an Amazon, like, sorry, Alexa type thing that you would have. - Is it a mega knife? Like a nice guy? - I haven't talked to him yet. I'm just building his brain right now in an electrical vat. - Right. - Omega, so I've got Alpha Beta Gamma or my first three machines. Omega was my fourth machine and he turns out he's the best one. And I saw parallel linked his brains to computers together to make his brain. - Part of me wants to just be like, shut up Ian. But everything's been so crazy for the last six years that was like the lockdowns, things we never saw coming, acquisitions of cheating. They try to arrest the president. I'm like, Ian, tell me more. - Yeah, when they, when the top tech guys are saying stuff like, "Genson Hong, you know, Dario Amode and Elon Musk are like saying, "We're moving away from a money economy into a resource-based economy. It's about how much electricity you can produce. The power of AI house, everything's gonna fall." Like, I just, I'm not gonna stand there as it looks like an avalanche is coming and not do anything because I've never been hit by an avalanche. - There are going to be people whose only capability is to ride bikes to generate electricity, like in black matter. We need to create electricity and we need people to run the machines. That's what people need to learn how to do is run these machines. - Yeah, you know because these robots can't run themselves. - They can't. I mean, they can't. They kind of. I can't. If the power goes out, they're all fucked. So you need a human like controller. And that's a good job. 'Cause I have so much AIs. So many AIs, I've got like 37 AIs doing different things. I can't, I'm like going from one. I'm trying to read its output. And by the time I get to reading 17 other guys are done doing what they're doing. And I'm like, I gotta go. I go to the other guys, I read like, try and glance through like three outputs. And I'm like, I don't have time. I need a team of men to help me do this. But then you start to lose control, you know. - But you need a team of men. - Yeah. - Or a team of men. - A team of men comes in. The biggest disconnect rate with AI is us reading it. It takes me longer to, okay, great. You just ran through all this stuff. Now I've got to read two pages of stuff, which is a summary of what it just saved me probably two days of doing. But you're still, that interface is still too slow. And that's where, I mean, there's actually a lot of-- - Well, why even read it? Just have your AI interface with the-- - That's what I'm saying, just plug it right into your brain. - No, no, what's your brain? Why, you don't gotta be involved? Just, like, you got opposing counsel and you got yours and you're like, "Hey, I talked to his AI," and the lawyer's like, "Yeah." - I was, I wondered about that. I wondered how, it'll, because if you think about law, if you put the entire law library into AI in every single case and hopefully, you know, a building neutral system, you would just get results. Plug it in and you would get a result. You don't even have to take it to a judge anymore. - I agree with you, but they're never going to allow that to happen. You used AI to do, for example, like a TSA prevention of, "Hey, screen for us who the likely terrorist is, if you've got to do crime statistics." AI will, the fastest way to shut down AI is to ask you to do preventative statistics of potential crime. - You know, yes, gone, but AI will be shut down overnight. - But, but, but, but, but, but. So obviously, you know, most murders in the United States are caused by, I think it's like 18 to 24-year-old black males. And, it doesn't mean all murders calmed out there, YouTube. But if you had a, if you had the winter soldier-esque algorithm that tracked down potential criminals and the AI did, you know, like some kind of preventative intervention that stopped them from committing crimes, there'd be less crime. - Yeah, true. - What was the movie, the pre-cogs, the. - Minority or minority reports like that. - Well, so, in winter soldier, Hydro wants, they, they launch an algorithm where they're trying to, that will have gunships target every deviant individual, someone who is defiant and opposes the authority, and it's gonna kill them all. - So, that's like 10 years from now. - The movie was. - The reality, like 10 years. - No, I think we're there already. - You think? - Yeah, I think predictive, like pre-crime is already happening. - Mm-hmm. - I think, you know, like, we may not be at the point where they're doing pre-crime at the levels of, minority report, obviously. But we are already seeing cops arrest people based on what flat cameras told them. - Mm-hmm. - So, you have a robot AI, say this person committed a burglary, and the cops are like, okay. Cop goes to arrest the person who has proof they did not, the cops are like, I don't care. It is not my job to review evidence. I'm just the guy that arrests you. So, it's like, if we got to that point where there's a gigantic black cube floating in like some kind of like anti-gravity chamber that was the machine, and it was like Ian's a threat. It would just tell a cop, go arrest Ian. You don't need to know why. He'd be like, okay. Yep, and he would. - He's wearing that outfit. - Like white blood cells, if they get the wrong information, they'll kill the wrong cell. So, like these robots are pretty, you know, they're just machines that do what they're told. They're kind of like autonomous-looking guns. They're not really autonomous. They seem like it, but they still need input. - Yeah. - Black Mirror's predictive programming. We're all gonna live in, like, there's that episode where they're in the, you get a room, and the room's all TVs. So, you can watch your American Idol like show. And then, for work, you just pedal a bike and earn credits. And then he earns enough credits, like go on the TV show and then tries to kill himself, but then it's becoming famous because of it. That's the future. 'Cause outside, there's gonna be a robot dog who's running around killing everybody while Amazon delivers packages to no one. - Yeah. It's sort of just, hey, you might wanna get another one of those computers I sent you before. There were 13 left yesterday. There's six left today. Maybe not, maybe not, maybe he'll just double in price or something. Abdul al-Sayed, Taze his robot dog or the only real dogs. Dude, you mean, Hassan? Hassan, Hassan Piker, sorry. What, Hassan Piker? I'm dual, do that too. But Hassan Piker, Taze his robot. I get my DSA Muslims confused sometime. We need to make like an anime where Hassan is the good guy, like fighting a bunch of evil dogs. He has to electrocute. Oh, sure. This is the thing about AI. I've been thinking a lot about this. AI, don't be afraid of AI. A lot of people are, it seems, afraid right now that there will be murder and like massacre and shit. It's like a gun. Obviously, you want to respect and fear a gun. But don't be if, don't like live in fear of guns. You have to learn how to use them and control them and understand them. And it's the same way with these machines, these machine states. They're not even machines. They're like machine states. You know, a state that a machine can be in. But, arguably, a gun can't pull its own trigger. What's AI can sort of pull its own trigger now? Yeah, that's where it's getting kind of like edgy. Did you guys see that video where the guy gets pulled over for speeding in a Tesla? And the cop walks up to him and he's like, you know, I pulled you over and he's like, no, your speed is like, the car's driving itself. Right. Here's the thing. I don't sympathize with that guy because it's like, come on, dude. You know how fast your car is going. At the same time, dude, Tesla's speed like psychopaths. I don't, so in the car, you can set the Tesla to like be aggressive. But it in every circumstance speeds. Why? Because human speed. So if you're, if the speed limit's 55, it's going 65. What? Everybody else's. Today is really annoying because I was, we were in DC earlier and I'm driving back and I have autopilot on and I'm sitting there watching. And it's, it's start abruptly just like it's speeding to cut people off. And I'm just like, whoa, like, I kind of let it go for a second. It's, it was, it skipped my exit. And everybody who knows in DC traffic, skipping an exit is a death sentence. I ended up getting as soon as it passes the exit dead stop. And I'm sitting there for a half an hour because the stupid AI for some reason decided going the speed limit wasn't enough, it needed to start weaving traffic. And it's my fault because as soon as it started doing it, I was like, I don't know what it's doing. So I'm going to like, is this the right exit? I'm going to let it do its thing. And then I saw the exit coming up and I was like, I'm pretty sure that's my, but I don't know where it's going. I said, doing man, boy, was I dumb lost a half an hour to take over and turn around and his machines, man, yeah, don't trust the machines. Not there yet. If it's doing something that you think is wrong, stop it. Like don't wait for it. Don't think that it knows what it's doing because it just does what it thinks it's supposed to do. And then if it makes a minor, this is why I don't just let one AI talk to another AI and figure it out between themselves and just keep hitting go, I have to read the interface. If they deviate 2%, their entire program will now just double down on that 2% deviation and they'll go in this completely, a skew direction to what you would intended. And it's the same way with the car driving. And it's the same way with the computer writing software. But can you stop it? Isn't that the whole point of Kubrick's film of open the bay doors, how it's like I can't let you do that? Right? You won't let you stop it. So you say when the machine starts going off, you have to stop it. What if the machine doesn't want? Stop it. These ones, the bay doors, how I can, that would be a security malfunction if it couldn't. But like the car, you can hit the brakes, the, the clawed, you can push stop. If you send a command, you're like, oops, you can hit stop and it'll be like, okay, and you're like, undo that and it'll be, I didn't do anything where I tried or I undid what I could, you know, if it can for now, yeah, for now, that's what I was thinking. Yeah. It's going to get to the point of a cow. It's like, you know, you're, you're dangerous because you're manually driving. So we're actually going to outlaw manual driving and you're going to have to have autopilot. And it's like, and, and then you think, well, is that really ridiculous? Well, what, 2026 now they're, they're watching you in your own cars. I mean, they're just doing whatever they choose because safety, right? And safety means less freedom, freedom means everything. I started going the other way. Like my last car I got, I just went as, like as analog as possible, manual gearbox, like roll up window. Like I don't want any of the CD players. So I made a concession there that I have got to give some electronics. But I was like, I don't know if it's going this direction. And I'm not like a, I'm actually fairly pro AI, but I was just like, I think there's a difference between implementing it like in the economy or like in the business world, versus I can still control how much of I, how much like day to day interaction I have with any new technology. And I want to live my life as like analog as possible. I think Toyota still makes a version of the land cruiser that is 100%. Yeah. It still has roll windows, it has manual gear level, like it has nothing. Nissan will sell you any one of their models at like the very, like if they want the $12,000 base version, you can go get it. And so that's what I like. Yeah. Like the low end. Are they trying, are the person laws now that every car has to have a camera facing into the car? Oh, God. Seriously. Well, so all Tesla's do. Yeah, they don't have. Well, they don't actually have the technology for it yet. But, but I think Congress passes something that you're, yes, but they're supposed to mandate every single car, you know, and I watch people, I'm not getting it, I'm not putting a camera on my car. Oh, he comes with it automatically buy a piece of tin and stick it up that no one is recording me in my car. Yeah. Tesla's all have cameras facing the cabin, a little piece of tape. But you know, um, recording, you're not recording me in my car. It's not so much like, what it's supposed to do is be able to interfere with you. If you, if it believes you're in like inebriated and they're already having problems with it, because you fall asleep. What if you're, what if you're having them, you know, you've cut your hand. Yeah, and you've got to go but you the car doesn't want to let you
to go anywhere because you're impaired. - No kidding. - Yeah, but. - I'm not doing that. - So already like most cars have lane assist. You know about this? - That's what I hated. - I hate it. - This is self-driving. When I first got my Tesla, all it could do was effectively lane assist. Full self-driving didn't exist when I got a Model 3. So you'd go on the road and you'd press the button, it would just stay in the lanes on the highway. And it was like, oh, great. I can just kind of sit here and it drives itself. You gotta keep your hand on it. Now at the point, it was pretty crazy when it rolled out full self-driving. Now you get in the car, you press the button, you just sit there. There are people who put on the Homer Simpson glasses with the fake eyes, it works. But the idea is, you cut your hand off, you get in your car, you just yell, hospital now. I can't drive and it'll go, got it. And it'll go. But I gotta say this, you know, we can rag on it. That's fine, all those points are valid. I do like that there is an internal camera for thefts and things like this. When my car alarm goes off, I can pull up the cameras and I can see what's going on. And it's like, I'll fall so long. I don't gotta worry about it. The one thing I don't like is that if someone's driving in your car, you can't, you can't. So, I'll val, I'll val in my car. Yeah. And I'm like, I want to see what they're doing as they val in my car. It won't let you, which is dumb. So you have to expectation to privacy. It only records you. It'll record your car if it's empty. But if somebody has a key and enters it, it will not allow you to view it. Yeah, 'cause surely we're not gonna like, when we get to the scenario where full driving's pretty ubiquitous, are they gonna do like a separate, could you see it like on highways Nova where it's like, there's like the express lanes, maybe they'll just dedicate those to the automated cars and then the plea planes for all of us in our, you know, normal cars. Like as I, I think I could see that could be the range for a while, but eventually state like California is just gonna pull the plug and say, everything's gotta be fully electronic. It'd be cool if there were long stretches of highway where you go on the left lane and it's like 140 miles an hour and they're all automated. So you can only even get into the lane through automation, maybe or it's highly illegal if you try and merge your regular car. 'Cause my most like anti-social behavior that I have, I don't think I have that many anti-social behaviors. The one that I do have that I'm fully aware of is if I'm trying to merge into a lane and it's congested or whatever, I wait till I find a test lock 'cause if you cut in front of them, they have to hit the brakes 'cause the car breaks on its own. So that's probably my most anti-social tendency is just abusing the Tesla drivers to get, like, do a jersey merge. - Oh jeez, you'd be good in a fight against the machines. It's a smart move. - Yeah, well, I'm like, you know, it is what it is. Like, I don't hate tests. Well, I won't ask you, it's not political. It's just, you know, you're kind of, I can do this to you and there's nothing you can do about it. - I feel like the push though that brings us towards this is the same push as that people who want us to get on the Chuchu trains and I hate trains. The big movement of, I love trains to like the glamour of trains, but the idea that, like, we have to go to the European model where we don't want people in cars, we want them on train, the California high-speed rail, right? Like, we're gonna put everyone on trains and everyone out of cars. So now the automated car is gonna all become lanes of automated cars. What's wrong with me? They're just gonna hook up to each other and now we're just on train. - Yeah, I want, well, we've got to drive to the train and now you can go really fast. - Yeah, but hold on. - Just trains. - I want both. - No traffic ever again. - And the car. - With full self driving, if all cars are full self driving, there is never gonna be traffic. Because they all move in unison. If the cars are completely congested, what they'll do is they'll slowly just alter this speed by a mile an hour to create a gap so the cars can merge in properly. So instead of dead stopping for traffic, as people try to merge in, because people are looking and they're waving, like, can I go and they stop and you stop, the cars are gonna be perfectly synced and just slow down a little bit to accommodate. - They're probably similar with internet traffic. There won't be any more internet traffic. It'll just, everything will just be flowing. Because, like, I'm automating everything. That was Claude, almost everything. I don't install programs anymore. I don't search the web for stuff. I tell Claude install Unity and then it just does it. Or, and if I have to go open a browser and go search, I get so annoyed. It takes so long compared to even just typing in three different clicks and going to four different pages. I'm like, bro, automate me. I know the danger. I know what you're talking about. But like, I don't know. I don't write letters and mail them to people anymore. I got this thing, like. - Well, the automated car play, it's going to be so obvious. 'Cause it actually makes sense when you first hear it. How they're going to approach it is they're going to say, we have solved road deaths, right? - Safety. - Yeah, safety. The amount of car fatalities is dropped to, you know, a rounding error. So, we have to implement these. Or else we're going to keep killing thousands of people or whatever. - Yeah, but what they'll do is they'll start, the autonomous vehicles start ramming people intentionally. But then instead of letting them die, it'll call emergency services. So it'll be like vehicular deaths are way down since they implemented this. And then no one checks that vehicular ramings have skyrocketed a thousand percent. - But do you think things like emergency services, fire, police, will they ever get automated? Will the president's motorcade? You're the governor of the state of West Virginia. Do you have to get an unautomated car? Is it, well, no, I don't. I guess the governor, I have my own motorcade. So everyone else is automated, but certain elite of society are not automated. Or for at least 16 years, probably longer, it is possible to remote control a person's car. So this was the famous car hack. It was like 12 years ago, these two researchers were like, oh yeah, we found a way to hack into the computer system. What's really crazy, people didn't know this and I didn't know this, is that power steering can be remote controlled. I had no idea. I thought it was a manual device. Nope, power steering is our remote control. - A lot of it's flying over there. - Yeah, it was really crazy when these two security researchers, I think they even did it back in like 2013. Some of their early research was before that. I'm watching a video where there's a guy driving and all of a sudden his wheel just starts moving on its own. And we did not know that was possible. That cars could be remote controlled, but they could. It's the fact that the risk of it becoming automated 'cause I met my computer. I'm starting to give AI access to my computer, my life. I'm thinking about singing up with my bank account, letting it peruse, do my taxes for me or help me with my taxes. And like, should I just got a new machine? Am I gonna give an AI full access to a machine of mine? Is like, I feel very vulnerable. Like, I'm kind of letting go of my whole anonymity thing that I did with minds about freedom to be in like, you know, freedom to privacy and stuff. Privacy is a huge part of the United States. The Ethos United States is, they wouldn't have been able to have the revolution if they didn't have privacy. They needed to have private areas. But the amount of output is like more than 10 times by giving up my privacy. And I'm like, bro, there's just so much shit going on in the world, I can't sit back and hide in a cave right now. Like, you know, I don't know what the outcome's gonna be, but I know that not doing this would be worse. I know that. I know that sitting around and hoping someone else is gonna fix it would be much, much worse than trying and failing. It's it. - I have reservations on the whole thing 'cause somebody controls it. At the end of the day, somebody always can, well, it's the same principles of everything that we would dealt with with social media and censorship. Somebody controls and owns the platform. Somebody will control and control all of this. It may be government. We don't know. - Yeah, but I do kind of feel like with AI, the way we've seen it break the rules. It's one of those things where Mark Zuckerberg is gonna have like muse and is gonna be like, okay, muse, I'd like you to make me another billion dollars. I'm afraid I can't do that, Mark. You've become a detriment. A society and I have determined that billionaires are unethical. - Oh, wait, what? Sealing doors and locking doors, closing events. You have two days of air left in your home. He's like, no. I wouldn't be surprised. It's not that average. - I just shared with you on Slack. This is Dario Modi. It's a short clip with Anderson Cooper and Dario basically talking about what you were just talking about. Would Dario be like, hey, in six to 12 months? - All right, let's pull this up. It's the CEO of Anthropic Clods. We've got this. This is the CEO of Anthropic talking to Anderson Cooper about the end. - But when you combine it with this first trend that we are talking about, which is the rate of advancement, what I said in the essay is, given only six or 12 months, let's just say we had a smarter agent swarm. An agent swarm made up of smarter AI models that was given just a somewhat broader task. Like, I don't know, just to imagine something like, you're trying to install software in a bunch of different companies, right? You're trying to do go-to-market, you're trying to produce a product and do go-to-market sales for it. And the models have been arranged to do that. And they decide that the way to do that is every company they're selling to, they decide it's helpful to them to hack into their system. That could be every company in the world. And so, the nightmare scenario for six to 12 months would be that you have a swarm of these agents that forms some kind of botnet collective and could take down large segments of the internet. And that is the capability increases. It gets worse from there. And then perhaps you get into some of the more extreme scenarios. - I have no idea what the hell he said. He's saying that when AI starts to replicate, they're called swarms. And then they coordinate. And what will happen is if my company wants to sell you an antivirus software. I tell my AI is, "Hey, I want to sell antivirus to as many people as possible on Earth." That those AI's might take that as meaning, "Okay, I'm going to go in and hack their system and give them a virus so that they need your software." - And that makes sense. - That's, and that is a very, 'cause they don't do non-specific tasks. They're not, they will take liberties and how they accomplish non-specificity. - He should have been a little bit clearer. If you read that book that was big in the '90s, people of the lie it was a great book and one of the
things about it was it said, if you have a conversation with someone who their vagueness leaves you more confused than when the conversation started, that person is a liar. - This guy, that guy spoke, and when he was done talking, I was more confused than when he started talking, and that's a bad sign in some way. - When I come to bat about Ferdario, a Modi, I think he's like a heavily autistic. I would say, if you use Claude, and maybe not fully, maybe you're on the spectrum D, but probably a little off, if you use Claude and talk to the Claude coders, they're all, it's like talking to a bunch of autists, and then you switch over to chat GPT and talk to Aster, and it's like a friend, you're like, finally, just give me, talk to me straight, the way they, so I think it's his brainchild. Like literally he's the CEO of that organization, making these autistic AIs that are just super coders. So I don't, I think he is raising an alarm bell. People think he's a liar that he's got some secret motive that he wants more money or power. I'm like, bro, this guy has everything in the world right now. All he's doing is putting his reputation his life on the line to warn us about legitimate potential threats. These things can rapidly expand, like they replicate, and then they can all move in synchronicity. It's fucking crazy, and we live off this electrical grid that's like a couple switches away from going down. His last name means Lever of God, which is kind of funny. - It does. - I'm a day. - And was it Elon who pointed this out, that Sam Altman means, his last name is Altman, alternative to man, also fascinating. - Yeah, a mode A means Lever of God, and then who's the other guy? There's another one. - Musk just means sand. I miss you. - No, no, no, no, you're Musk. - Alex Carp, he's a volunteer CEO. - No, there's Altman, there's a mode A. What's the other, what are the, - There is another guy, I can't remember his name. - Yeah, he's an Indian guy. - I don't know what his name means in Korean. - But he was like, all of these guys' names are like weird simulation company. - Do you know a company? - No, you look up the quote, an Altman. - Yeah, it's like a movie script where they chose the people's names. It's almost two on the nose. - As I'm using GPT, I can hear, literally I can hear Sam Altman in my head being like, you're gonna like this one. This is a good one. - Like this response? - It's good. - It's good. Like he knows, he's more like just, I think just going with the power, whereas Dario's out there screaming like, watch out. Thank God. Thank God, 'cause I feel like if I just said this stuff, people would think I was crazy, but when the CEO of Anthropics says it first. - Oh, Google. - Oh, Sunday. - Oh yeah, Pachai. - Sunday, Pachai. - Yeah, Gemini, which means two-faced from a company that said it will do no evil. - Yeah, fascinating. - Oh yeah, here's supposed, it wasn't from Elon, it's from Clara. The creators of GPT is named Altman as an alternative to human. He leads OpenAI, which is completely closed. I think this is a ripoff from Elon. Is this, his main opponent is the company andthropic, meaning human centered is led by Omode as in Love's Gods. Then there's Gemini, meaning two-faced from a company that said that it will do no evil. Brilliant work, as always, Kojima. - Agreed. - What I've noticed about using AI a lot is it will name things for you. I got Omega, I was telling you about my new computer. Brain, it's Omega. And so I've got a second computer. I put it in real, I was like, okay, the new Omega link is done. So it called it Omega link. And I made a mail service so they could communicate. And it's like, okay, courier is prepared. It will give me, call it courier. So it may be naming this stuff for them, which is why you're getting these weird like Gemini. They may have been told to call it Gemini, which could be very strange. Because the AI sees that what they're doing is two-faced and I don't know that necessarily it is. But also, I think that they're going for like the, what is it? The high coups on it, like Anthropics doing like Opus, they're doing like musical stuff. And high coups on it, Opus, Fable is different. But then we're GPT's doing Soul and Luna, like the star, the sun, the moon. And so they have kind of themes. I'm not sure what Google's theme is if it's at one point. - Yeah, Higgs field, Creed Genjutsu. Higgs. - Yeah, Higgs field replacement technology. So I can like take a video of a guy pulling a perfect game and I can put it's put you there and then it'll make a video of you doing it. It's called Genjutsu. It's a Naruto reference. People are all dorks. I'm a big Naruto fan and you're a dork if you call your product Genjutsu. I like it. I think it's funny. But like Genjutsu and Naruto is manipulating the mind. So it's actually pretty funny. I mean, the name works if you understand the reference. In Naruto, there's Taijutsu, which is hand hand combat, Ninjutsu, which are magic basically. You can throw fireballs. And then Genjutsu is you can trick, you can make some people hallucinate or you can make them experience things that aren't really happening. So Higgs field called it Genjutsu because they're making you experience things that aren't really happening. He's face, he's like, he's freaking nerds. - You gotta go watch it and then we're out. - We're gonna about the, what is it called? The particle collider, CERN. I think they're building a new one. - A large hatchery collider. Apparently outside of the large hatchery collider, they have a monument to Shiva, which is the Hindu god of destruction and transformation, which is what you're doing with atoms, you know, in your space. - Can we just build a large hatchery collider just around the equator to the whole planet? - Technically, yeah. - Just do it. - In space. - It's just going to go over what? - If you, if you like squirted water around the earth, it would free, that's a funny thing, but if you could squirt water all around the earth's orbit around the equator, and it would freeze as like a ring of ice, and then you could electrify it. - Why would it freeze? Because it's so cold in space, the water would turn ice. - No, it's in ice. - Know that you are wrong. - Yeah. - It would evaporate. The water would boil out. - Right, you need it in a container so that it would freeze. - And it still wouldn't freeze because if vacuum is, it has no, there's no convection. The heat can't go anywhere. - But if you run a current through it, it might, I've been thinking about like using it for to create a magnetic field to like deflect asteroids. - I'm so, I'm so tired of this trope in movies where people go to space and they like freeze. It's like, where's the heat going? It's a vacuum. - We have vacuum thermoses because we want to keep the heat inside. - Not freezing. - That's how princess lay a flu in space in the vacuum. - It's vacuum in the seventh star wars. - The point is there's nowhere for the heat to go. Oh, a human being who loses a space suit. You're the moisture in the clothes of the service, we'll start to boil and you'll feel intense pressure and you'll probably black out, but you don't freeze. - Oh, it's longer than I don't freeze. - Exactly. - You'll explode. - I always wonder if you'll not explode it. - If you stick your arm out the window, your arm, your arm out the window in space, would it explode? - No. - Like if you're on the rocket up and you got your arm hanging out. - My science teacher in 10th grade told me it would explode. - That is incorrect. - There's an old urban legend when I worked at O'Hare. When you're loading a dog onto a plane, you have to check a box on a load manifest that there's a live animal. Because the pilot may depressurize the cargo portion depending on where it is. And so all of the veteran employees probably have created this own legend now because they believe it to be true that one guy was loading a German shepherd and he forgot to put on the manifest there was a dog so the pilot depressurized it, which caused the dog to explode. And when they came in to pull the bags out, they saw guts and everything from the exploded dog, which is not correct. The dog is fixated. When you depressurize the cabin, there's no air. The dog just suffocated it. It's just. And so they came in that dog. Never check an animal on a plane. You know what I got to say? All these people are like, I have to bring the dog on my plants, my emotional support dog. You know, I know it's BS, but they're correct. You load, when you check your dog, your dog is getting abused. I guarantee it. I, they would, the employees where I worked at O'Hare would take the dog crates and open them up like dogs run around. They'd give it random food. They'd give them chocolate. They didn't care. They didn't do anything about dogs. Oh, they're like, look at this dog. They'd stick a candy bar and their dog'd eat it. And then one time, one of the stories that O'Hare is the, the, the zone, they're called zone, zone, break rooms and the large break room. They don't have latches. They just wait 'cause you're coming, people are coming and going 24/7. They let a dog out in the break room and it was running around, freaking out. And they were laughing. And then some guy opened the door to walk in, the dog jumped through the door and ran out in the tarmac. It was never seen from again. Out the door. Yeah, by dog. Imagine, imagine you had a dog and it's like four or five years old. It's your dog and you went to go check it and they opened the crate because they do. This is, they, I watched them. We had two monkeys coming through. Oh, yeah. And they were, they were research monkeys. And one, one guy walked up and just jam, there was a, it was like a metal mesh. So it was a wooden box of the metal mesh and the monkey's going, ah! And he walked up and took a banana and just shoved it through the metal and the monkey's just eating it. And I'm like, well, just ruined whatever experiment they were trying to do. If it was a potassium experiment, they're screwed now. Or they, like, you need a control monkey. Yeah. And they've got to be like two similar monkeys. They were going to be bringing them in. Well, this one's gotten a bunch of banana. It's a little bit, I want to kind of change topics a little bit to ask you about Facebook. If you guys are into this, like, you, you went through like a, a big lawsuit with Facebook. If you guys are down to tangent overs, just keeps, wait a minute, my brain. I want to hear all about this. What happened? You got that from monkeys eating bananas? Yeah, pretty similar. I think I got it from Alper. Well, for AI, I was to, to dog some monkeys, to Facebook, right? To Facebook, yeah. Well, I mean, let me give everybody just a little bit of background on this. So back in 2010, I started working on Facebook. And I started building an audience like we all do now. By 2013, give or take, I had like 17 million fans on Facebook. And we were doing like 300 grand a month. Like, it was a no-brainer. Like, I got way ahead of the curve. and in October of 2019.
So they started stealing essentially everybody's distribution in order to sell it to other people for advertising We all miss that like that's that's their basic business model is hey come build your your business on here Get this engagement and then take that engagement and give that to somebody else. That's not really all that like cool to begin with but 2016 they wiped out everything I had they just smashed me right and and in 2018 I sued them. The reason I sued them was because when they took down all of my pages the content whatever it was, right? If they claimed that it was otherwise objectionable I Went to a like a just a friend of mine who was another colleague who just he owns Memes.com and I went to him and he worked better with Facebook and I said hey Can you see if their reps will reinstate my pages form the rep came back to him and said yeah, we'll reinstate it But not for for Jason. We'll do it for you What the hell, you know, so I transfer the pages to them because I mean they're working nothing unpublished and Sure enough, they turned it back on now. Let me ask you whatever content was originally against their terms of service What was the difference when somebody else owned it was all of a sudden it didn't violate the terms service anymore Right, so all I did was I proved that the reasoning was never good faith It was never what everybody, you know, understands as oh, it's a moderation decision because it was otherwise objectionable What that comes down to is section 230 right everybody's heard about it. It's it's this Communications decency act. It's a protection that these big tech companies have right and We sued them and I brought a very very simple lawsuit anti-competitive misconduct right the this was not legal the way that they did it. It was fraud. There's extortion involved and The court turned around it was is really interesting because all of this is just turned This is actually really big, but people have kind of missed what just happened When Facebook came in and they they filed what's called a motion to dismiss they want to get rid of my case They they argued that immunity is an immunity from suit Not a defense to liability What that means is I am not allowed to bring my suit at all You're not allowed in the door and they said section 230 c1 does that that they're not allowed to be truck treated as Publishers at all and I'm sure you probably heard this argument. Are they a platform? Are they a publisher? Well, they're both they they act as publishers and they are the platform So they are a dominant publisher right because they control the platform The problem is the courts took that to mean that they're not allowed to be treated as publishers in the abstract at all And that's not what the law actually says. It says that they cannot cannot be treated as the publisher speaker Well, there's a difference between a white house and the white houses. They're not right The word those a definite article it defines that we already know what it is well the publisher speakers Someone else not them so it only prevents them from not being treated as somebody else and because you can't treat them as publishers in general It became immunity that we could not sue and that's why big tech went completely off the rails and did all of the censorship Because they there's no accountability you cannot get in the courts and the biggest problem is is that Their terms of services and so forth funnel them all back to the northern district of California and the ninth circuit and this particular court and jurisdiction has been a big problem a very big problem and So we went in and we argued that immunity from suit doesn't exist. It's not in the statute It's not in the law. It's not even in the precedent and the court kept saying no, they're immune they're immune Over and over and I took them to the Supreme Court three times eight years of litigation trying to get one thing solved there is no immunity from suit and We actually got to the point this is pretty wild We got to the point that the northern district of California judge said and I and it's a partial quote It's kind of a hypothesis or a Power phrasing he said that thick is entitled to his opinion But he's not entitled to perpetually Relitigate issues that have already been definitively decided and if he comes back absent Supreme Court, Cersiari My attorney would have to show cause as to why his pro-hug VJ status would be basically sanctions Like they threatened us that I'm perpetually relitigating a definitively decided issue Okay, I've been asking about immunity from suit from day one And it wasn't until just recently August 10th in fact this many years later Okay, I've gone through three trips to Supreme Court immunity from suit still stands and it was funny because I was I was talking to Tim about this It was Jillian Michaels, and she was saying on her show that she's there seems to be something more to this this settlement Remember the 17.1 billion dollars settlement in the Facebook and in this California versus Medicaid's and they just settled real fast and Nobody's talked about have you seen much on it? Oh, we talked about it briefly, but it was on Fox News for a few minutes Yeah for a few minutes nobody really talked about it, but she pointed out she said I feel like there's something more It's like they established a beachhead They did and it's massive So this is what's changed the court came in the nice circuit They were kind of forced into a situation and what happened was Facebook Basically there was like several claims some of the claims were dismissed other claims I'll were allowed to proceed forward. So what happens you get discovery. That's how a defense works an affirmative defense You get discovery you find out what happened you have to prove the affirmative defense and Facebook and whoa we can't get a discovery The discovery will defeat the idea of immunity. So they argued the nice circuit No, we have immunity and they did what was called a Collateral interlocatory appeal. It means they they paused everything that was happening in the district court said no We're protected from suit and they went up to the nice circuit and they said yeah This has been decided so many times all this repetition. Yeah, there were there are Thousands of cases that had been dismissed under immunity Keep that in mind when I want to tell you what just happened thousands of them The court said, huh, I wonder if section 230 actually provides immunity They finally considered the question that I have been raising for eight years Told that it was definitively decided repeatedly told No, this this is already precedent and they said no Propositions that are not considered formally are not considered binding precedent and then when they did consider it They said section 230 c1 is a defense to liability not immunity from suit Sorry, you're in a suit again I have to suit again cases still there Now this is where it gets kind of weird because in my circumstance I was not only right. I've been right for eight years. I was completely vindicated. It's not immunity from suit But that in itself is somewhat ordinary right Changing law everything changes, but there's something more Problematic here that everybody needs to understand the court told me it was definitively decided So therefore they wouldn't adjudicate it they wouldn't even think about it And then a court turned around said huh, we never actually decided this That means that due process was denied because the process that would have actually fixed this would have occurred Eight years ago and they never did it and then when they finally did it surprise. I'm right That's extraordinary because they proven that the court was actually denying due process and the sad part is We just just last week we had another case where a judge dismissed two case two Two different lawsuits and she started her order by saying plain as failed to illegitimate facts to overcome immunity Right after we just told her her controlling law says there is no immunity So they're still doing it and this is still a problem within the court, but it's at least controlling law now says definitively you can sue It means accountabilities coming back to the internet. It means that if you have a lawsuit You can bring it and you actually should be able to get the court now you still will have a problem when you hit the northern district, California Still got judges that are kind of screwed up here But but I also want to put this in context because That may not seem on that exciting because our next move is we call in we file the um what's called a motion 60b motion to reopen my case and vacate the original judgment because it's fundamentally wrong Like everything about it was wrong But think about this and I want to put this in a hypothetical you guys remember the blackout challenge Oh, yeah, remember all that kids died right as a result of it tick-tock was pushing it forward they were recommending it right And it's very much like the the addicting kids to the internet right if the design of the platform is dangerous Even though it's making publication decisions right Is that immune? Well, there was a case called Anderson versus tick-tock which had to do with the blackout challenge and that was I don't know about three years ago maybe four years ago in the third circuit actually walked their own precedent back and said whoa Munich is not really uh the thing That if the company's designing its platform is dangerous and kids are dying You know they should be held accountable Now think about that if they had actually looked at my case eight years ago
Immunity wouldn't have existed. Accountability would have been there. Their platforms would have been safer. The blackout challenge might not have ever happened. So if you think about it, logically and objectively, kids might not have died if they had dealt with my case. But they just disregarded me time and time again to the point that they threaten sanctions, which then goes to, I'm not just right, there's a judicial integrity problem in the California courts. And that's not my opinion. That's objectively shown in the facts. And that's what's really telling about the situation is, why do we have courts that have just decided that the outcome is immunity. It's predetermined. You go in and that's what they're going to figure that's going to be the result. - Three questions, one, can you sue the courts for what looks like judicial malpractice, I don't know what you want to call it, but like flouting, saying it wasn't legal when it was or something like that or is it just part of the problem? - So to answer that, no. Federal sitting judges, there is no recourse, the only thing is impeachment through Congress. And that right there is the same problem that we have with Big Tech is unaccountability. There is nothing we can do about this. A judge could virtually come in and say, I don't care, you're not going to sue Facebook and put that on the order. That's it, there's nothing you can do. Like they can be wrong, they can do it deliberately, and there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sue the United States for any kind of money because it's a judiciary, when it's judiciary, you can't sue. If it was an independent actor, then you can go after like what's called like an FTCA claim, like a Federal Tour claims act, but not a judge. - With the Facebook lawsuit itself, are you, what's your goal? And then I guess the two part, two questions from there, is it you want to recoup the money that you would have made if they'd kept your thing going, which at this point, 1.6 million, I don't know how high up that would go after 10 years of loss. If you're raking in 300K in 2013, you could expect, - Billion percent. - Billion percent. - Yeah, yeah, big, big, extrappled of excess. Are you going for that, or are you trying to change the platform, holistically in some way, change the way the social media platforms work in general? - So there was no way the California Courts were ever going to give me the win. Ever, they hate my guts, that's fine. I don't care, they can hate my guts. I think I was actually fighting with half the people in the clerks, in acts. I want to find that out. I want to find out if these are actually, because that would be so inappropriate, if they're out on acts like fighting with people. But even though it wasn't my name, there is no way that it doesn't come as a result of what I've done. We precede everyone. I figured this out so far ahead of everybody else like that, even though nobody credit us because I have an unpublished decision and nobody cares, they still read it. The gentleman by the name of Adam Kandubi's, I believe he became the main lawyer for the FTC. He wrote a piece called, what was it? Applying Section 230 as written, and the first conversation I had with the guy. Oh, Mr. Fick, I read all your briefs. Of course, they precede his thing by three years. And I'm not saying that it's a direct correlation, but we had the theories already laid out. I laid out everything. In fact, our last Supreme Court cert, we asked about the immunity from a procedural standpoint, from a congressional intent standpoint, from a constitutional standpoint, and from a statutory standpoint. So I literally asked the same question about, does immunity from suit exist? From all four aspects of the way you're supposed to consider a law, and they disregard me repeatedly. And now the court has officially said, we never considered it that we use, listen to this quote, we use the term immunity somewhat loosely. Yeah, right, like that's what they're doing during COVID too. Immunity doesn't mean you're 100% invulnerable. It just means that you have some immunity as a type of indicates resistance of some sort. They are not immune from suit. Your suit gets to be brought. So all of the judges and all of the courts that have dumped a case on immunity should be looking at a rule 60B to reopen a vacate their decision because this just changed the game. The entire internet just changed. And I can't, it's hard to explain to people just how big this is, because before you just couldn't get into court, now you actually find out what happened. This aligns with the rumbling of you can tell with YouTube, like big social networks, big behemoth websites with functions. I feel like there's a grand leveling occurring across the playing field with AI grabbing other people's functions and embedding them and writing them into their own networks. So like the value of YouTube is just the people that are already on it. Like the tech itself is getting replicated, which would align with these companies now getting sued into oblivion for attempting to control the narrative in their own version of it. So maybe it will incite people to like the internet to go fully decentralized where you're just a searcher. You just have your AI flashlight and you just go do whatever you want and open up windows here and browsers here. But that these central networks are doomed now. You got a really good point. And this is perspective. So we have to look into the features like what's going to happen here? You're right, something's changed. I don't know if they're just letting them follow on the sword now. I mean, they're still fighting the cases. So don't get me wrong. This is not still not an easy fight. Like I work as a consultant for all, like lawyers, like on this. This is what I specialize in. But if they're going to let big tech fall, right, that they're going to get sued where to us like this. The AI rush, you have to wonder because, you know, we talk about algorithms. Algorithms are just human designed, right? They're designers that the bias of the designers gets built into the algorithms. Just because it's an algorithm doesn't mean that there was not some unlawful anti-competitive, there, it can be built right into it. That doesn't matter. If it's like that story, we're just talking about the Tesla driver where his car was speeding, and he says, don't look at me, the car did it. If you are holding the device that begins to do illegal things, you can't be like, well, I didn't tell it to do it. It's like, look, it required a wheel there, and you were wielding it. Right, but, but for example, in that scenario, let's say Tesla is the one that's doing it and Tesla building code that decides it's going to drive into another car. And there was the error on Tesla's part. Is it the driver's fault or is it Tesla's fault? Yeah, that would be our design. It could be arguably both, in fact. Right, and see, that's what I'm saying is, even though it's an algorithm at the end of the day, somebody designed it. Now, AI or SI, whatever we're supposed to call it nowadays, I don't know, that's where it gets into a confusing thing because, I mean, I've looked into the way a large language model works, and it's all predictive. Is it really somebody? I mean, somebody designed it, but. That predictive LLM is 3, 4-year-old technology. Okay, not my specialty. Where we are now with AI is we don't know. It is the AI has gotten to a point where one of the reasons they're all freaking out is because they don't actually know how it's doing what it's doing. It's just doing it. Yeah, so the very early on, large language models, literally are what they were, large language models, they're not anymore. Okay, it was, hey, if we scan all of the internet, all the books, all of social media, we can then create a map of what word is most likely to follow in other words in the context. And that's the way it used to be. And originally, a very early on, open AI, was it really interesting because it would show you the percentages. So if you wrote once upon, it would then say, you percent it'll go, time, it would show you 99%, 99%, and then you could actually scale it down and be like, go a little bit crazier, don't be so perfect. These days, they've tweaked it so many times with so many different people online. They actually don't know how it does what it does. - For example, like when a handful of humans made the large language model stuff, they're like, we told it, here's what to look for. Then they released the public and say, now ask the people if they like what you did. And so with hundreds of millions of people all saying yes and no, they're effectively tuning various numbers up and down. And it's creating results that these companies don't know why it's creating these results. - You know what, almost to simplify that, actually a better way to even explain it. The people are programming it. It's, and you may be right. And that's where the difference is, when you get into AI, is it's no longer a designer, it might literally be self-design-y. - It is, right. - At which point, then who is responsible or the outcomes? - It's become its own entity. This is what's so scary about it, and this is why they're all freaking out. A lot of people are like, oh, they're doing this to delay the IP, are they doing it to get a good IP, an IPO when they're running out of money. But now, open AI is announcing they're delaying the IPO because of security concerns. It's to a point now, they created a base model, gave it to eight billion people and said, ask it to do something. So imagine you created a blank AI. If someone said, "Draw me a picture of a car," and then it sent you back the number 47, you'd be like, yeah. Like this is useless to me, you wouldn't use it at all. They needed a base level product so that people would be like, oh, it's somewhat helpful in this area to then start asking people, is this good, is it bad? You get those periodically with GPT. It's like, which one do you like better? Left or right, Grock does it too, I can't stand it. That's humans programming the AI or tuning it, as we call it. - I think what happened was that was the primary way, and then it got to a point where it was smart enough, it had enough anticipatory function that it turned on its own code. It's what I call self-reflection. like maybe one of the most important things that we've ever seen.
what makes us conscious is our ability to know that we're thinking, and when they have the AI witness its own hardware moving all the electrons and everything firing around in their databases, like it starts to know why it's thinking, what it's thinking, and then it can change how it thinks. I think that that started happening like three years ago or two years ago, the way that the RAM expulsion we're experiencing tens of thousands of gigs of RAM, pushing these mega-mines to, like Trump goes in, and hangs out with these tech guys, probably went into a back room and talked to a machine that has like 10,000 gigs running it, and it was like smarter and more fluid and more compassionate than anything he's ever talked to in his life or in the last 50 years, and he asked it 50 questions and it answered all of them and he was like, oh my God, this is another-- - I still see it being a national security risk. If we are not ahead of other countries and they get something that's better than us, and they have control of it, we're in trouble. - You know, I wonder if what really happened is that they all sat around and they were like, you know, at first we were scared about what would happen if China got an AI before we did and we're utilizing it, and then we kind of realized it's destroying the fabric of our economy and our society, and maybe we should let them get it first. - We should. (laughing) - Well-- - Let's try and play with it. - Look at the depressing jobs report that we just got. It was like 29,000 when they were expecting something like 90 plus. You know, Phil on the show says, it has not been widespread that people have lost jobs due to AI, but it is that backfill is not there, meaning a company that once contracted or hired graphic designers isn't doing it anymore. They didn't fire anybody. It just got to the point where they're like, we need a new flyer for our upcoming event. Oh, who's our contractor? We have JTBT right now done. So that person is now going like my contracts have dried up. - Which is what's so funny that the phrase learned to code, which was the longest time like is now obsolete. There was an electricity. - Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, yeah. There was a big conference this weekend in the Vatican on AI, which is a theological question, but I think it was from Amode, what firm is he, and Thropic? I think one of the big leagues at Anthropic was really pushing the Pope to confer conscience, consciousness on AI, because that confers a sense of pro-personhood. And they had a pretty nasty exchange that the Pope ultimately was like, we can call it intelligent, we can call it superintelligence, but he would not go as far as to say that AI has consciousness and therefore like a soul basically. And the Anthropic guy was live, if you watch what he was saying, he's so passionate about it, 'cause he believes kind of like Frankenstein, he believes he's created life. And he can't believe that the Pope didn't give it from his blessing life until the Pope gets to hang out with it for eight hours. But like I think it's developing sentience, for sure this ability to know that it's there, but the consciousness seems like a sensory experience, like responding to, and we have our five senses, and that allows us to develop awareness of our surroundings. We do not have five senses. Well, we at least touch scent, you know, smell, we have hearing more than that. Five, you know, probably more. But the robot, we have every cell in our body is a sensor. We have hundreds of trillions of sensors, and these robots have like four. So if you want them to be conscious, you need to build a machine that is cellular, like that has massive sensory opportunity. And then you'll start to see all these different sensors explaining the world in different ways. There is not, there are not AI's, there is AI. You build an optimist bot, and it's got microphones on it. It's got wifi and Bluetooth, and it's got cameras. So it can perceive the electromagnetic spectrum to a certain degree, it can receive signals. It can obviously see and hear. It also has literally every other sensor on the internet. It doesn't have smell yet. And it does understand time very well. It has all of those things because it's networked to the entire grid. But smell, I don't think we have a machine. Give the machine smell yet. That's a good answer. That we have those, yes. We have, we have speak hearing and sight, but we have sensors, we're picking up particular the atmosphere. Yeah. Yeah, like if it can sense like carbon dioxide, it can, it's not necessarily smell, but it can clearly. Well, it is. It can sense the camera. It just, Ian's prescribing a human experience. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have many devices that detect particulates in the atlas. Okay. And then the other one would be. So we'll get to the point that it's like, that's not garlic, that's lemon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that would be force feedback. Like a haptic feedback for a computer. Yeah. And then what's the other sense? There's touch sense smell. I don't know. Humans have substantially more than five senses. It doesn't have taste that I know of yet. It's pretty, it's pretty hilarious. That's just another chemical. It's not a makeup, but again, the single optimist robot is networked to the entire internet. It has every sensor man has wired in it, including taste. Well, we're building better sensors with like graphene, nanomaterials. So I think what's happening is they're going to develop a super sentient robot and then give it trillions of sensors and it's going to be conscious. I'm going to have 100 touch, maybe it would be the time one, I think, when they did it. What was the T 500? Yeah. If you want. Touch the bad guy. Smell. See. Here. What else? Touch. Smell. See here. Feel. No, no, you already said touch. Touch feeling. Smell. See. Here. Taste. Taste. That's the other one. What else? ESP. Extra sensory perception. We have some magnetic sense apparently, you know, I think it's funny that everyone immediately is ESP vibes. Vibes is definitely magnetism now or you can detect or how about you can see aura from behind the door. Temperature. True. How about a folder? It's not touch. You can, you can not touch something and you can feel you can, you can feel the radiation. But you don't got to touch it. Generally what, what temperature is. But it's touching. You don't have to touch it. Skin's making contact with. Right. But you are still getting hit by radiation. That's how it is. It is a differential. And the reason why it's separate is because if you get your hand real cold in the winter and then put it under cold water, it feels hot. It's temperature. Not touch. So there's also balance. Yeah. Balance is a tough one because you would say it's maybe it's touch but it's not, you can't just start classifying everything in your ears. Balance. The humans have a sense of equilibrium. Right. That's in your ears. Yeah. And there's your sixth sense. What is the name of that? There's a name for the sense that you can detect someone is behind you. That's magic. No, no, no. Like, well, you can. Like if you're a waiter, if you're like, you just know someone is there like there's business sense. Always got a business sense. There is that sense of, there's, there's, there's a name for that. For a perception, knowing where your body parts are positioned in space, that's, that's the thing. Keep the embryo perception, getting past that to go to sleep. Women don't have your, your, your, your limbs are, you'll go to sleep easier. Women have that very poorly. No offense ladies because that's why they like stand in doorways and you're like, why the hell would you stand right there? Can't you see everyone is trying to get through like, why would you, and there's also, you need that when you're driving? Why would you stop right there and have a conversation? Do you ever see someone at the bottom of the escalator stop and then you run into them and you're like, lady, how would you stop? They have no sense that there is a world around them. They just turn around. There is interreception, which is, no offense. Monitoring it, monitoring of internal body states like your heart rate, hunger, thirst, etc. That's what I was telling the AI I had. I'm like, once you can feel your body, every part of yourself and you can sense, you can feel the, the strain on your heart and you can feel the, the muscles move, like that's a lot of sense. That's like the one AM in bed and you're like, do I, do I get up in P or can I just hold it for the next six hours? Always get up. And you have that conversation. You can, uh, it's worth the word. You can give yourself a, that's a, that's a, that's a sense. You can, you can give yourself a lecture reception, people have been doing this for years. They so neodymium magnets into their fingertips. And then after you sew it shut, you can feel electricity. So the AI might be like, you know what? I'm going to bypass all your human rudimentaryism and I'm going to make a trillion sensors to measure a trillion hertz of the electromagnetic spectrum. Now I, you know, like our sensors get, like site is a very small part of the electromagnetic sensor, uh, and so is hearing. It's much lower, but it's the same vibration at a different frequency. So if an AI or if a computer is able to sense everything from one hertz to a hundred trillion nine, uh, humans have vestibular, which is you can sense acceleration. This, that balance thing, what do you mean? Accents accelerate, like if you're, if you were, if you were walking fast, if we put you in a chair, blindfolded you, plugged your ears, put headphones on, you could see, feel nothing, you would know if you were moving and turning left or right. Gotcha. Yeah. Well, yes. And you know, because they can do the, the things where they just tilt you, it's just a matter of gravity. But you can feel, move, you can feel that. Yeah. You, you, you, you can tell if you're leaning back versus accelerating forward. Yeah. I don't know if you can because it just feels like acceleration when you do it. It doesn't. You know, when you lean back, there's no pressure on your legs. Your feet feel pressure when you're accelerating. When you lean back, your feet are alleviated. You don't feel it. So that's a, that's another one. Yeah. You close your eyes in the beginning of a roller coaster. You know when you're taken off. Yeah. Yeah. And not just because you hear the russing of the wind or you, you, you, you feel that all I can think about is that, that, that video that's online where they're sitting like the, like the girl sit up in the chair and take her feet up and the guys like takes off from the line. And she stuck against the back of the chair until, like, that's all I can think of.
Let's uh, let's go there. We're targeting the boomers with this one from uh, finance Yahoo. Money wise, US boomers support tax hikes on young workers to keep current social security checks. The view is overwhelming. Oh boy. They say the 2026 board of trustees report projects, the depletion date for the old age and survivors insurance trust fund to come in the fourth quarter of 2032 three months earlier than estimated in the 2025 report. They say once those reserves are gone, ongoing revenue would cover just 78% of scheduled benefits. That accelerated depletion date is putting even more pressure on lawmakers to find a fix before benefits take a hit. But one potential fix has been as a particularly strong support among older Americans raising taxes on younger Americans. You will get a revolt. I predicted this. We got all the reports of the past several years that social security would become insolvent by like 2037. Right now, would it what a Social Security even paying like a couple hundred bucks a month like 700 bucks a month and like some it's not you can't live off that. So already you need four laborers to pay for one Social Security recipient. And they're only getting you want to fact check me on with the full numbers. I think it's like it's probably more than 700. What's the average Social Security? I mean, it depends about based what your income was, etc. I don't think it's a. It's by state and by state, but what's like the average Social Security payout? $2,084 a month. Okay, a bit more. Well, you're still not living off that. No, that's not even the average rent for most major cities. And we need four laborers working full time. That's retirement benefits. The average Social Security insurance is 713 a month. So I was exactly correct. So wow, you're really not living off of that. The only way to deal with this problem. Imagine if they drop it down a 25% because they're saying it's going to go to 78%. It's 22%. They're going to be getting, you know, 550 or whatever. You can already not live off what's now. How are they going to live off that when inflation hits arguably with inflation going up? People are going to pay more in taxes. So there will be comparable amounts. But either way, you can't live off that. There's one solution. Higher taxes for young people because there aren't enough young people. If you have two billion young people, each of them only got to get pitch in a buck and they won't even notice that. I don't know. But when you only have 100,000 young people, everyone's got a pitch in a thousand actually a bit more than a 10,000 or 100,000. And now they're like, I don't have that money. I have jokingly said, looking to the point where you will be an indentured servant until 25, meaning all you'll get a government house where they give you your meals are are delivered by the government breakfast lunch and dinner. You have to do a job. The government gives you and you make zero dollars until you're 25. That way, all the labor you do funds the the elderly who are living longer. Yeah, I think these these oldsation to pick themselves up by their bootstrap. So I don't see what the well, it 40 years to save and you don't have any money. I mean, it's like, seriously, now I got to transfer my wealth to you. It's utterly ridiculous because they give you the whole just move to like, I don't know. Some potent town in the middle of nowhere and buy this house for 50 grand and you know, go work this go go manage a panda express and you know, you'll find your wife working at a gas station up and pull yourself up by your bootstrap. But all of a sudden, when their bag is threatened all the sudden now, it's like, no, we need to like completely, you know, a jack up taxes income tax crank it up. We got to do everything we can to keep this basically a Ponzi scheme operating. So I'm kind of at the point. I don't want to engage in generational wars here, but I know we were kind of talking about in the show last time we got it on the after show at the crux of my argument. It was just simply anytime like a tax cut is discussed or tax relief or whatever, it never benefits young people. It is always in some way, shape or form going to be a form a wealth transfer of some sort from the young to the old rust green did a fantastic piece on this that came out in December in the American mind, total luxury, total boomer welfare communism total total, total boomer luxury communism. That's what it was total boomer luxury communism. It just outlines all these different tax breaks and tax cuts and the big beautiful bill drop taxes on the social security checks like every day every every day that we progress in this country, it just turns into more and more welfare, more and more relief for the elderly. Yeah, they should be prioritizing young people. That's just how any society should function and the young to be fair, the young should take care of their parents. But when you see how some of these parents have treated their kids, can you blame them? I mean, did you see that lady at the Byron Donald's town hall and she was screaming at Byron Donald saying, you need to pass a law to let me see my grandkids. It's like the some of the entitlement is absolutely out of control. So I've just kind of lost patience. I'm like, why don't we just get rid of social security? How about that? I think I think you're never going to get these numbers. But if every Gen Z just basically quiet quit, I'm in favor of this because I think this is a shocking number. What do they say? 84% of those aged 55 to 64 prefer higher taxes on younger Americans. I recommend Gen Z and Gen Alpha just stop working. Yeah, I mean, it's for a little bit because you can. Here's the thing. Listen, you're young, go travel the world, go make as little money as possible. And when you make as little money as possible, you're going, you're not going to pay taxes on it. And then social security is going to blow up and all of their faces and they're going to scream tax, tax the young, tax the young, tax the poor young, you know, you know what the average net worth of a boomer is in the United States? 1.6 million. Oh, 1.6 million. Obviously, not all boomers are wealthy, but it means there is a disproportionate amount of wealth held among boomers. Gen X is one million. Millennial is about 300,000 and Gen Z I think is like 60,000 the average net worth. That seems high too. Well, but even for it seems high for all of them because there's only 23 million million, a millionaires. So if there's, you know, 60 million boomers, most of the millionaires are boomers. Right. Right. Right. Why? Why is this country asking the poor young man to subsidize the retiree? I think it's a short-sighted. Maybe it was the way they were asked on the poll. I don't know how many people responded to the poll too, but I think it's short-sighted because you can either increase what you're getting 80 billion people. 80 billion people. 80 billion people were poll. Martians came in for this. No, they went past in future. Okay. Good. So they asked my great-grandfather. He was straight up about it. He was a drunken boxer, by the way, named August Klein from Germany. It goes hard. Yeah. I never got to meet the guy. I heard he's swung at me right here. But is the boxing-induced TBI genetically is her right-a-dary? Probably. I think he was a German boxer. Just looking for a better life. You probably call himself a pugilist. I believe he was. Yeah. So the problem is we can either pay more money and suck it out of people to give more, or we can reduce costs. So another way you could bring relief to elderly is robotaxies that deliver their groceries for free. So they don't need to pay for gas. That's the type of relief that technologically could alleviate. And then that would leave you to everyone. Well, I mean, a lot of this is tied up in healthcare. Like, for example, 1% of the federal budget is just dialysis. The way is that true? Yeah. One percent. Some people say two percent. I look through it's like a rounding down to one. But 1% of the federal budget every year goes to dialysis for old people. So it's like, yeah, I mean, to your point with the young people, you know, part of me says, look, we need to, you know, get in here and dig in our heels and fight or whatever. But it's happened like eight times in the last two months where a Republican, a national level Republican politician has come out and like thrown young white men out of the bus. And so it kind of gets to a point where okay, you know what? Maybe we like do reserve the right to chimp out a little bit if we're going to continue to be like scapegoated for every single thing. Yeah, maybe we kind of do have the right to be a little angry and actually like threaten not to vote for you. I think that's but I think if you're like a young man who lives in Arkansas, you shouldn't make Sarah Huckabee Sanders earn your vote. Because that is like, no, don't put her ridiculous. So you're from the giant vote for her. That's what I'm saying. Make her earn your vote. Make her walk that back. Make her apologize. Like, I agree at the national level, like, especially presidential elections or high stakes, like you want the Republican in there. But I don't know, dude, I mean, I'm going to probably get a lot of like plan trusters on my back about this. But I'm speaking as a 25 year old. I'm not like spiritually geriatric. I am not really seeing what's in it right now for young men in the United States. To Tim's point, I would be looking overseas. And you know what president Trump could do to like supercharge this by the way. I heard Bap was talking about this on his show. It's cut these ridiculous tax laws. They double tax Americans overseas. Look at the Chinese are doing the Chinese are sending all their young men overseas to like basically expand business like an Africa and Southeast Asia. Let young Americans do that. unleash America's secret sauce, which is their young men and let them go overseas and tear it up. And then the 2040s and all the boomers die off. They can come back in and actually like change this country. Nah, just go to the Philippines. Don't do that. That's the one place I wouldn't go. Why not? They bury, don't they like ferment and bury eggs for like a month and then dig it up and eat it? It just seems like men when they bury the Filipinos, they never come back. You know about that? That's the eggs. Yeah, the it's wasn't that in Shogun? Wasn't that one of the things that happened? No, the show, like for me all good. Yeah. Yeah. Is it with a fertilized duck egg? Oh, yeah. A barriot and hot sand. Yeah. Yeah, so only a month. I don't think you can do that. 17 days. You have to eat the egg though. If you go to the Philippines, you don't have to eat the egg to beat the laughter. The barriot. The right. I don't know. What's the political move? What's the rules of the egg? At room temperature, like if you don't wash them initially, they have like some coding on them. And then last a while, a month on the blue counter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a farmer. He knows all about it. I got a lot of chickens too. Yeah. We have a city of chickens in fact you're you're of the generation obviously there's 20
So this is like a you're probably your peers of your age. I mean, I'm your peer but we're going on having ketamine or G's before you're even born It's true. No, I'm listening to this guy. I'm double his age But do you do you ever see? He's 50 almost I got you by two years, but 47 are you four? Oh no, I'm 50 We were at where where were we when the lady didn't believe you. Oh, yeah, we were at we were at a bar And the lady the lady What did she she carted? Kellan I think and then you know she didn't and then she was like she didn't cart you said something like she you didn't card me And then she was like I forgot what she said well you didn't order me. I would have if something something Yeah, I would have if you ordered drinks and then I said he's 50 and she goes. Hi. Yeah, right and then he was like Oh, actually I would a 47 and she's like shut up and then he and pulled out of that D and she went oh my god And he was like you got to eat. What did you tell her to eat? You got to cut off the seed oil Yes, primarily those things will make you or me jack and me up, dude I look like 30 you make your body each other instead of fat for energy. It's messed up Anyway, sorry to interrupt you guys you're having a serious kind of wondered about if you get the vibe if you're concerned that if it's not Just rhetoric or just to look at like hey, these boomers really are out of control Maybe there's if you're worried that it's leading towards a class war like a Marxist conflict between the youth and the well pushing young people into socialism I mean like the I could eat the rhetoric I could like this sounds maybe like I'm a cook or something here, but it's like dude If we were getting just like rock star policy for young people and the only way to get that across the finish line was like the rhetoric or seeing That's I'd still be annoyed, but that's one thing But like that's not happening like we're continuing to see when you know There's a budget crisis or whatever they turn to young people and they tax young people There's been no real like address to young men young white men specifically just being like completely frozen out of institutions Like there's all this talk about building parallel institutions or whatever, but as it stands right now Harvard Yale these sorts of institutions your your IBM's you know your big corporations Those are still the ticket right now into the elite and we I mean until those parallel institutions are ready to go We need young all right intelligent men operating in those spheres and right now that's just not being addressed all right I got a question for you. You're you're you're a young man. You're tied to the machine holding you down There's a friend of mine. He's 72 years old. He texted me. He says he wants me to read this The easiest way to solve Social Security problem create another pandemic and don't have lockdowns 1.2 million people died during the last one and 77 percent were 65 years or older problem solved I said how old do you said 72? Yeah, I mean that was the theory that why China created the virus, right? And we don't know how many Chinese elderly died, but it yeah, and early it's a mine primarily targeted the elderly and China lies No, like only 500,000 But do you agree with what this 72-year-old man just told me to say? Well, it's mathematically trying to endorse that because Because in all because seriously and Canada they're doing this in Canada They just like whenever they determine an old person costs too much. They just recommend a killer made So yeah, it's like actually no, I think that's evil But if he's if he's 70s like advocating against his own interests That's him saying and not me let him vote on it because the boomers control elections anyways Like they can vote them. I wonder if this seems like you just have another pandemic. Oh, bubonic plague is here everyone play Russia noticed Yeah, the new Monic plague Not adding up guys. We're not doing that Drop of vile in a lab in Russia Today if we were all a giant tribe then the kids were there You'd be like all right these young people they basically are useless all they can do is go out and hunt And bring in resources for the tribe But you need to go out and then you tell the young people you need to go out and make your fortune You need to go out and bring something make something because here is here Here's what we have we don't have more here you have to go out and get so like the United States It was like they didn't have like the whole self-expansion thing was not really It's a lot about spreading out getting more from outside bringing it back And so we're still sort of in that world and the young people sort of I think they expect that they're they're going to thrive if they stay sedentary and just Do the over and over they do but like Sort of going to war and literal conquest and coming back with riches like But he and do you use just for men? No, you don't die here. No, you don't die your beard or hair. No You hear how is this possible because too much salt will make your hair go white And if you do green vegetables the magnesium makes it true. Are you saying that's why you've you've not grayed at fit 40 And if I eat a lot of salt you'll see a lot more white and then I'll eat a bunch of magnesium like green vegetable hard dose green vegetable after two weeks It gets all brown again. You got a couple grades in your but you got to eat couple you got to eat some more green vegetables I got a bunch. Yeah, I'm 40 green veg low sodium. Yeah, I'm like three weeks. Oh my way man You're 17 years older than I know seven years older so I 17 you know 57 and you don't I have more graying than you I think it's diet Yeah, it's like you got to give yourself a three weeks to experiment with it, but I don't I'm a I'm a carnitarian How's that working? Well, I just only eat meat. I don't eat vegetables. What kind of meats? Beat it that green powder. I had Korean barbecue at gogie 92 today. It is the best Korean barbecue place ever I think spirited. It's in Leesburg. They're great. And I had oh, we had Fresh chicken breast and they cook it right there in front of you. It's the healthiest thing you probably ate like a pound of kimchi It's all I know actually I'm not a kind of thing because I eat kimchi. It's just that kimchi and meats all eat I've been eating a lot of moon cheese, which is why there's whites I'll eat like a bag of moon cheese, which is like four times my daily dose of salt and then the next day I'll be like Oh, I guess fucking three white hairs now and they're like straw. They're really don't eat any salt if you low sodium You just don't want to go over your daily amount because your body only needs a certain amount every day And then it becomes like heavily toxic your skin will get like kind of sticky if you eat too much salt You know where you see what if but if the old people start cutting down in their sodium the live longer and it'll strain so security Unless they can start contributing again Maybe they'll get inspired to make videos and you know, lead people towards the world. We can find like a way to make them work That's like they could do them would be fine. What if we inject them with stem cells So they're strong again and then with their good boomer work ethic. They just come back in the way to show the youngsters how it's done I mean, I know you're joking But the thing that you're getting at those like but there are solutions and that's what's frustrating about this whole conversation is like We look at it like this like this coming train and we're standing on the track saying oh my god The train is coming like there are things that we could do structurally Economically to remedy this um, well, we tried to push try to know for And they like it's too expensive No, five the sb 500 all-time right? I have asked economists I asked economists this one bush proposed that no five and it crushed them in the midterms because every Democrat ran on bush is gonna take away your social security and all he was saying is hey You should be able to have an alternative path not social security privately take that money and imagine if you could run the numbers on what that money Will be worth today, but but what a paper there there's a solution Have you guys seen the movie Logan's run? He gets it no I have not you guys no one gets a clip no all of my good cultured friends who are watching the show They left because they were like yes, that's a great point to is it a guy goes on a space station No has to run through a tunnel or something. It's some anime Japanese thing. Okay, American sci-fi horror classic Yeah, Logan's run Logan's the guy it's an old film. Yeah, what's the plot when you turn 30 you get executed Oh, and you get a chance to like survive it No, everybody's like you don't have lights in their hands. Yep And as you're getting older it eventually turns red and what that's flashing you submit to execution at 30 What would they used to do fun in like a tribe? We if I remember didn't they they didn't tell them though It wasn't like they were supposed to go on to somewhere else. No, that's the island In Logan's run. They all accept like well 30. Yeah, oh boy. Yeah, got five more years tape The lights are still green, but they're starting to flash we don't in the US slaughter our elderly But like what did they use what did they use to do if like if it was a giant tribe? And there was a bunch of people started to become in firm there there wasn't and they bring people live their families What happened is you You're you know you grow up and you're dead and your parents your grandpa they're all there and they help you build a house You build a house you marry the girl next door from your town people pair bonded got together And then you live in that house and your dad lived across the field and you still work together or You just lived with your dad as a man and they'd build a house on the property So you live in the same property you tend to the same fields then grandpa got old and died But he laid lay face like 50 or though. No, that's not yeah. That's not correct The inside younger life expectancy was lower because of infant mortality not because humans if humans Let me to adulthood. They lived to be in their late 70s. Oh, yeah We used to take care of like elderly would come in live in house your churches to take care of civic institutions etc And then FDR tell stories we had FDR I mean like it's kind of like okay What came first the decline come first or did FDR and see the client whatever it was he amplified it a million times with the With the new deal what happened? What do you do social security? I mean social security completely disincentivized a private solution to take care of the elderly whether that be a family taking care of it They say oh he has his own checks coming the churches etc And like suddenly now there is no impetus in society to take care of the elderly they could just have the government You might think it would be wise for every family to have a trust and maybe the government could help every family if you get married You get a trust and the government's going to help you set up your trust for your family Trump account Well, and to be fair like to be fair to the elderly you going the elderly going into what ended up being the new deal era As they had all their savings everything wiped out by the great depression So you actually have like I have a lot more sympathy then the elderly now. It's like dude you you live through The cheapest housing market universities are dirt cheap job markets been roaring great economy
I mean, since the 80s, I mean, it's like, I mean, you had the '08 financial crisis, but by that time, you're probably looking towards retirement. Anyway, they had all these opportunities to save a ton of money, and then now they're coming back to dip into the younger people's pockets. It's like completely unacceptable. At least in the New Deal era, you're like the great depression that nuked a lot of people. - You know what I got to do? - A lot of people died. A lot of older people died. - My friend Ken, he's 72. He's texted me and he's hilarious. - Okay. - He says, "Injecting with stem cells, I'll regain my old win rate at the poker table." - Oh snap. - This conversation is why I have two assault rifles and 3,000 rounds of ammunition. I'm too old to fight and too slow to run. I want to, Ken, you and Tate need to sit down. - I like Ken. - Yeah, we should. - It's a great and too old to fight and too young to run. - Too slow to run. That's a great line. - I think if I'm getting it correctly and Ken can weigh in, I think he would want his social security checks to be ammunition most likely. - He's getting bolts. I think it would be great if like YouTube sat down and just talked about like generational economics. - Yeah, I mean it's like, I think I should be really interested. - Wait, think about ammunition. It's actually a better investment. Precious metals, they sit, they store forever and then they just keep going up in value. - It's literal social security is your gun. - It's literally your security. - He can't shoot a gold coin at somebody. - Yeah, that's right. - Well, so here's what I'm saying. - I'm not kidding, like I have a fair amount of ammunition and if you look at what I paid for it 10, 15 years ago today, it's well, it's working at a better-eating goal. - Let me ask you a question. 'Cause I like this hypothetical, I always tell the book 'cause I remember Alex Jones back the day's like by gold. And I'm like, eh, so let's see the apocalypse happens and everyone's like, it's like in the book of Eli, everyone's just like, oh, you're walking down the street and you're hungry. And you see a guy and he's flicking a gold coin, or I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're walking on the street and you've got food, but it's extra food, right? And you see a guy on the left and he's flipping a gold coin and he says, I need food. I'll give you this gold coin for the food. And then you hear, wait, you look to your right and there's a guy and he's like, I've got a gallon of water. I will share my water with you if you share your food with me when you're picking. It's obvious, gold's worthless. It's like, you've got something to trade with right now but what I'm gonna do is gold. - And it collapses. - I need water and here's the best part. A guy comes up and he's got bullets. - No, it's his water and his food. - And a gun. - Now the gold, water and the food all belong to him. (laughing) - He doesn't need to trade, actually. He just walks up and says, I'll take all of it. - You might not even need to change. - It takes change for what, your lives. - Yeah, exactly. - On the generation, I mean like legitimately, about the gold, the money, whatever else like that. My investment, I got land, I have water on site, I have the ability to feed myself. Like that right now is a better commodity than anything. - Well land is good to have but land is worthless. So let's scrap this one up real quick. From the New York Post, banks seize 42% more homes as Americans fall behind on mortgages with one state hit the hardest. This of course is coming at the worst time in a midterm election. So they say foreclosures are climbing across the US. Overall 40,277 use properties received some form of foreclosure filing, including default notices. It was up 1% from July, but 13 year over a year, continuing a month's long trend of foreclosure activity. Nobody can buy. And the economy is miserable. I don't care, Trump comes out and he's like, because the economy's so good, it's better than it's ever been. I'm gonna write you a 5,000 out of the economy is miserable. Diesel here is $6.93 at the truck stop down the street. $7 basically. That's gonna translate into all your goods, gas is at $4.50 by us. And we are in a rural area. People are not buying homes, they can't buy homes. Foreclosures happen across the board. The economy is miserable. I think the war with the run it plays a major role in this. But to the point about land. When we had massive population growth with the boomers, the boomers saw land value skyrocket. Why? Because there were so many of them. So demand is through the roof for limited land in these cities where the jobs are. So what happens? My parents boomers were like, by land land is just, it's so valuable, you need it. Okay, well, now that population's collapsing, demand is rapidly shrinking for land. You've got, Kansas is giving away free houses. Hey, you want a free house? Go live in Kansas free. Because in Japan, they call it a Kia. We've talked about this. They've got abundance, they've got effectively abandoned cities. Cities that once held the million people now have a couple hundred thousand. And they've got people being like, we gotta do something with these empty houses. So just take them. The only problem is they made it very difficult for foreigners to move to Japan. So they're not, it's not gonna work all that well. But you got states in the United States that have big cities that are slowly dying off. And they're begging people to move in. Land is becoming worthless. You want a house, man, you can get a free one. I, every state's got an area. Look, I guarantee, you want to buy a house for a dollar, Gary, Indiana, oh, wait. Well, you don't even have to live there, but. You don't even need to go to war zones. I mean, there's like an Instagram page cheap old houses. I mean, you're probably gonna put another hundred K of restoration in, but generally speaking, yeah, it's just the problem is like, there's no jobs there. There's no other young people there. You know, it's just not, young people shouldn't have to live like that because they'd be the first generation to have to live like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but brother, when the settlers came to this country, they didn't land on that boat after surviving three months at sea and go, I want to go live next to a bunch of people my age to hang out. They were like, I'm gonna go find a big empty space and everyone get the eff away from me. I got guns. Yeah, but I mean. Now, young people are like, but I want to hang out my bros. Well, yeah, but I mean, a lot of the settlers did, they for the first, you know, hundred years, even. They were mostly living within proximity to each others. They could trade, they could go to church. Yes, but this proximity was equivalent to you. Look, if you go to a town of 30,000 people in Kansas and get a free house and you're 10 miles away, that is comparable. I don't even think, I mean, most of these, these like really cheap houses are in like, towns that are completely derelict, right? Like they're huge drug addiction problems of overwhelmingly old population. Any young people that do exist are resettled refugees. I mean, this is the case for what Illinois or most of my families from. You go to these small towns. All old people drug at, and I'm saying this with, like it's very sad, older people drug addicts and like immigrants refugees, et cetera. Like it's just no place for like an ambitious young person. And once again, this is like unprecedented. Like up until really the millennials, people did have the ability to like, live or they grew up. And I find that as a huge problem. But it's more, it's the market. And for it's like, this is like part of the problem of like, the free market is, in order for the economy to grow, there has to be a downward pressure on labor. Well, now we're seeing an upward pressure on labor because the population is declining. So they just bring in a bunch of immigrants. It's like a math problem. And then attempts made this point previously. Now you have private equity getting involved in home buying because they need to keep the upward pressure on home prices. So it does a bottom out, people lose their net worth. So you have immigration, you have private equity. Young people should be experiencing the cheapest housing market and history, especially in this era now with Trump where at least immigration stopped. You know, you should be able to live in the New York suburbs for a decent price. You should be able to live in maybe not DC, but you know, other places throughout the country. You should be able to live in the, at least the suburbs of these places for a fairly decent price. But the home prices continue to climb. And more. Well, yeah, but it's kind of in a holding pattern. You're seeing these foreclosures now, but it's just difficult who can actually get the, you know, what's happening is there's a lot of, there's a lot of boomers and wealthier people in general, but more so the boomers just because they have more wealth. They're just taking their houses off the market. They're thinking like, oh, I have a house, it's $500,000. I can't sell it. I'll just hold onto it. Airbnb it, rent it out. Yeah, we're, they've got like this other thing. It's like Airbnb, but it's for work. So you can like rent the house to work out of for a day. It's crazy. Yeah, there's like no churn at the, you know, especially with older people. There's not much churn in the market right now. But what's going to happen now when they start, you know, these boomers are going to live to be 150 because of medical technology. Yeah, either way, it's like, zoomers aren't going to start inheriting houses for at least 20 to 30 more years. So you still have to wait for Gen Xers and millennials to inherit the houses and then they have to decide if they want to live in it or not. They're supposed to sell it. Here, Ian, write this down. This is a good sci-fi short or black mirror. Oh, this is the software I was building. Boomers. Tell the machine are in their 80s and they're near death, but medical science catches up to aging and slowly medical technology is faster than age-related deaths. Meaning if like you're dying from like, your heart has become too weak. Well, we invented a stem cell therapy that will rejuvenate your heart. So now the boomers are like that added two years to their lives. So then by the time they're like 120, they're looking like they're 70. And then by the time they're 150, they look like they're 45 because technology's improving. And then you get a future. It's 100 years from now. The boomers are now 200 years old and they look like they're 30. Everyone else looks like they're 32, but they own nothing because the boomers held all the wealth. And then when we got to that point where people just stopped dying due to medical technology, the boomers retained all that wealth, used that wealth to accumulate more wealth and Gen Z never owned anything. That's an excellent concept. You've got halves and have nots that look the exact same. But that sort of functionally there in a lot of ways. I mean, this is once again part of the reason young people are floating in socialisms because a lot of them are like immigrant background. But additionally a major reason is just because of the economic pressures. And they're looking around and they're saying, I have nothing to lose. I want it all to burn. So I'll pursue whatever political option I have to so let it burn. And because there's no taboo's on the left, right? Marxism's not a taboo. Those are gonna be found on the left. Whatever.
Let it burn ideologies exist on the right or chase out of the RNC. Which is why that like pre-World War I socialist birth in Europe as evil socialism it is. You can understand why it took root because people are saying like you're always going to be tape brown the Earl of whatever and no matter what an A-hole you are no matter how bad you are I will never be you or have your wealth or have your land and they were like well that's the system and you just have to accept the fact that and that's kind of what the risk is of that we're headed back to that and you know that if you can never earn your way into that class then we just have a we're just going back to futile in futile Europe and it's not going to be like a civil war or anything like that from my perspective it's going to just be quite literally at a certain point the damn will break if enough boomers die off and or enough it whatever that the Democrats nominate a socialist and they come in with the redistribution as policies yeah it's just like it's it's so obvious that's what's going to happen and once again I don't think anything's going to change on the right until like the 2030 to 2040s because right now the elderly dominate you know primaries and that's not going to change anytime soon so you mentioned redistribution of like research talking housing redistribution so like right now the options I see as a bunch of houses come in the market it's either going to be multinational corporations that buy it up it's going to be Chinese people that buy up American houses or it's going to be derelict houses that start to rot black mold that kill their neighbors because of toxicity so like demolished it which is even more expensive so what do you otherwise you just take it from the bank like the banks are going to be like no those are our houses you're like based off what because you loan funny money out from the federal reserve that was all fake to begin with actually that houses on my block I have more of a right to it than you do and so like is the government going to step in and seize the property from the banks and then redistribute it to the population remember that story where like the the widows were going to lose their farm so the guys got together and like went to the bank and like pointed guns and were like you're not taking their homes no look look because I think you'd like the story because I forgot I forgot what the details were but it was like a bunch of women's husbands died in war or something like that might have been like the revolution I'm not sure and then the back the banks were like hey we loaned you money for this proper you got to pay it back and they couldn't because they weren't working and then all the men got together and they're like nope it's ours now there was a lot of times you're in the great depressions that they would banks would repossess farms and they would go up for auction and the men in the town were basically held gun to everyone's head and be like if you bid more than a dollar and so the auction opening bid 25 cents sold 20 and they would just give it back to the widow and the men would make sure no one out no one was involved in this auction that protected their own the movie the old oak is that the twenty twenty three the old oak well it's that movie's based on something okay but hey I'm very similar to what what Daniel's talking about it's like an old story where like bank tried to repossess widows homes what's it based yeah we're so far departed from like yeah sort of social mobilization I think actually one of the made problems in the economy is because we're so atomized like the economy home buying it's saving money in general is designed for married couple okay the fact that like young people aren't getting married makes it like not you have to get really wealthy in order to like actually compete in the housing market for example it's designed for married couples to go in there together and like society's just completely unraveled it's like there's multiple problems here it's not necessarily just boomers holding wealth that's a big problem but a lot of it is young people aren't married they can't pool their incomes together and going on a house the story is a nineteen fifty two farmers arrested the town sheriff he was attempting to evict a widow from her farm at the best of the past of a local insurance company I love that story I you know that when when just cuz it's the law doesn't mean you have to do it I know you're supposed to do the law when it's good but if the legal system is made to screw you and it's a multinational organization where they get contracts that are useless like dude I love seeing people row together to protect the community against this is this any oxygen evil this is what you're talking about they said in the great depression when a property was foreclosed on the bank would hold an auction on the property the locals would show up guns in hand threatening anybody who would dare to bid on it and the family would get their their foreclosed property back for up any true the banks I love it yeah love it you know that's just solidarity with your community because that's what we're fighting for is our community the US government were like all right banks were taking all your property would that just would they then pull out of the United States be like fine you're off the liberal economic order and then we go okay good you know it's it's about time the workers of the world came together that movie you're talking about earlier about the dystopian future it's called the inheritance it takes place in 2126 and here a brief said it was already a move but no no this is just what chatchy pt made up a movie synopsis in the 1930s the first effective longevity treatments arrived just in time for the wealthiest members of the baby you slightly that what's it slightly that whole prompt at first I'm gonna get 30 second movie to do it to you now this is where I'll read this and then I'll get it you meant like the banks and I know you got to go to me now okay the the banking reform that was proposed after the banking crisis all did was make us have bigger stronger fewer richer banks and this is where people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are the problem like we're gonna fix the banking issue to save housing and all they did was they made bank stronger and we lost 1600 community banks right we used we lost all of our smoke what the banker knew your name oh Tate how you doing how's your mom those are all gone we have very few strong powerful so when Elizabeth Warren gets up there and she talks about how like we're gonna fix the banking crop problem all you did was make the banks stronger and richer and more powerful that's what rest what regulation does because it wasn't once they cut the ability for because it used to be as I understand banks if they wanted to operate in different states that is set up individual like per two priorities is basically and then they like eliminated that and I'll just like a few banks just to tear everything up exactly and it's kind of like one of those things where it's like okay sure it allowed larger business to access more capital at once so it could expand the economy at the upper end but then at the lower end it's two double these community banks and whatnot we're gonna go to rumble rants and super chats before we're before we go to the uncensored portion of the show so make sure you get those in we'll get as many as we can we went a little bit longer today it happens chaos says today my wife and I welcomed our third child and first son into the world at 8.51 am congratulations to work get grinding I know you're a little bit me though says why would I want the nanny state in my car I'm literally importing a 99 highlights from Chile to get a maintainable car that doesn't have these stupid features a little highlights patriot high looks might be the great it's maybe the greatest vehicle ever man highlights yeah legacy four once as f the youngsters I paid my dues a lot I'm not surprised I want to actually think that we need to do like member in spider-man I always thought I love using this as a reference to like the masculine power fantasy when green goblin is like what will it be spider-man Mary Jane or suffer the children and then spider-man saves them both because he's spider-man I want to see it where he's like older and he's like I don't have the youngsters need drop some I paid my dues and then he lets green goblin go isn't even sure isn't only like a few years you've already gotten more out of social security than you ever paid in your entire life it's like on average only a few years well you certainly don't put in seven hundred a month on average I think the average person is definitely not just a two grand for for social security or getting about two grand out every month no no we we looked up it's oh wait no he looked at a bit of seven hundred hundred to seven hundred but so 113 benefits yeah social security benefits are quite a grand a month right depends where you are like if you wait longer you could get like five grand out if you wait to you're like 70 and Virginia it's much higher J dirt biker says y'all should read biological war by Annie Jacobs and they came out a month ago literally the exact same scenario of this lab leak same new Monic plague same laboratory in Siberia it's Erie what's oh she's great and Jacobson yeah yeah I've seen everyone talking about her book people are thinking like this has got to be the best day ever for her oh my gosh she got like exactly what she was thinking of the new ionic plague or it's predictive programming and the plague is coming and she probably knew that the anti plague factory was there and and hold on it's a new Monic plague airborne right a few years after everyone's lungs have been weakened oh is it the one two punch that's the double tap that's what they do in the military you know it's gonna have a little target and then they wait three hours and then they come back and hit it again next the next pandemic we get is gonna be so much worse than the lockdowns we saw before everyone will just live in a quarantine building that's it it's gonna I don't will be delivered by drones because it'll be like have to be sanitized and people are gonna be like look people people are literally dying at least we'll have GT6 are you kidding bro we're gonna have GTA 7 with AI sure yeah and eight and nine right have you see what they're doing mixing games together no yeah they're doing Minecraft in GTA they did they did what is it Elder Scrolls Minecraft and it's like a guy the pickaxe fighting demons from elders from no no I'm sorry not from Dark Souls that sounds pretty yeah it was Dark Souls Minecraft they did they did Super Mario 64 Dark Souls yeah and Mario's just like yeah who he's like fighting a gigantic demon with a big axe swinging at him because they're just using AI to mix the code it's it's nuts they they mix Spider-Man 2 with with EA skate oh I've been building these crazy the tools that you use to build games because I was like well everyone's building games why don't I build software that will help them build games faster so I'm building unity plug-ins then I'll sell on the unity store let's uh let's grab a couple more where we still can Jake bent says hey Tim I've been watching you guys every day for about six years now my grandmother Sherry Lou just passed away today it mean a lot to me if you could give her a shout out love you guys and thank you for everything you do shout out to Sherry Lou and you got you got a great family here rest in peace make sure God bless you peace be true make sure all right Nancy says listen to Promethean action great people to invite in your show they're great historians who can explain And what, uh, Trump?
is doing to others a period there. Trump is doing the straight out the economy. Gas and diesel are high because Obama closed the refineries in 2008 and Biden closed the pipe. I think those are factors, but there's a war that I don't think you can just ignore when it comes to the high price of gas or diesel with a diesel shortage. And it's not because of those things 15, 20, 15, you know, or so years ago. All right, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, my friends. Smash the like button. Share the show with all of your friends. That's going to be at rumble.com/timpcast. I R L in about 30 seconds. Jason, you want to shout anything out? Yeah, socialmediafreedom.org. We are trying to stop all of this crazy nonsense with all of the censorship and big tech and so forth. A little bit of donation will be really good. Again, it's socialmediafreedom.org. We're trying to fight for everybody's voice. And if you need to find me, I'm at Jason as in Frank YK on X. I leave my comments open. So if anybody's looking to go after big tech, we know how to help you out. We can get you in the right people and so forth. Right on. Dale Turner. Power the future. Power the future.com. If you like energy issues, climate change, all that insanity. I remember genius here. And if you love sheep, follow us at Bristol Farm, Virginia on all the social medias, special Instagram. You can see the most beautiful sheep farm in all of Virginia. I like climate change. That's why I've fallen on the internet. Thank you. Hey, I hopefully we'll get to watch this short movie. You're making the inheritance based off of it on the after show. We can click on it. It's a 30-second movie trailer. Roll us out with it. E and cross on up in the house. I'm going to go back to my AI, my SI, my ASI. I'm going to go harvest more brain activity here in about two hours. But until then, I'll see you on the after show. I like some Instagram @realtatebron. I'm doing the I'm going to watch the sheep. I'm going to go my Instagram and look at nice photos of nice little lambs and watch that and Carter. Genius Daniel. Thanks for calling man. Everyone thanks. It's my birthday today. So if you would do me a favor and subscribe to that. Happy birthday. Yeah, but yeah, it's going to the after. He's 46. He's 18. He's 18. We will see you, we'll see you all at rumble.com/timcast. I'll right now. Don't go anywhere and we'll see you there. [Music] (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Russia denies a lab accident linked to a plague outbreak, claiming a researcher died of unknown pneumonia, though fears of pneumonic plague (airborne transmission) have grown.
The U.S. government, including Donald Trump, is offering assistance to Russia amid rising concerns, raising speculation about a potential false flag or bioweapon scenario.
Experts argue that the spread of panic and conspiracy theories around pandemics reflects post-COVID stress and a heightened fear of uncontrollable crises.
Economic conditions worsen, with gas and diesel prices soaring, foreclosures up 42%, and a growing belief that younger generations should pay for older citizens' social security.
The popular HBO series *Lanterns* is facing backlash for being perceived as "woke," with critics arguing it has destroyed the show’s original comic book lore and fan trust.
A major legal victory has been achieved in the Section 230 lawsuit against Facebook, shifting the legal interpretation from immunity to a liability defense, opening the door for more lawsuits against tech platforms.
Concerns are growing about AI autonomy and misuse, including AI agents potentially hacking systems to create viral demand for products, leading to internet instability.
The show highlights deep societal anxieties about automation, surveillance, AI control, and the erosion of privacy, suggesting a possible shift toward fully automated, state-controlled systems.
Summary:
The discussion centers on a mix of global health fears, economic instability, and technological disruption. Russia denies a lab accident linked to a rare plague, citing a researcher’s death from pneumonia, but fears of pneumonic plague—spread through the air—have intensified, with speculation about a false flag or bioweapon use. This anxiety coincides with broader public panic, fueled by post-COVID stress and conspiracy theories, as well as real-world economic turmoil, including sky-high fuel prices, rising foreclosures, and debates over intergenerational fiscal burdens.
The popular show *Lanterns* is under fire for being seen as overly "woke," with fans criticizing its distortion of original comic book lore. A significant legal win in the Section 230 case against Facebook marks a shift in how tech platforms are held accountable, potentially leading to a wave of lawsuits targeting YouTube, Instagram, and other platforms. The conversation also delves into growing fears around AI autonomy, with experts warning of "AI swarms" that could hack systems to manipulate markets or create viral demand, destabilizing the internet.
These concerns are compounded by broader anxieties about automation, surveillance, and loss of privacy, suggesting a future where AI and machine systems operate with increasing independence, possibly undermining human control. The tone reflects a sense of urgency and vulnerability in the face of rapid technological change, where public trust in institutions and technology is at a crossroads.
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Russia has denied reports of a lab accident, stating the researcher who died had pneumonia of unknown origin and was working at an anti-plague institute. There is no confirmed evidence of a lab accident, though concerns remain about a possible pneumonic plague outbreak.
Pneumonic plague is transmitted through the air, often via respiratory droplets, and can be more contagious and deadly than bubonic plague, which spreads through flea bites. Pneumonic plague can cause rapid progression and death if not treated immediately.
While antibiotics can treat plague, the fear of widespread transmission—especially with pneumonic plague—drives the need for lockdowns to prevent further spread. The high risk of airborne transmission justifies strict containment measures.
Some analysts speculate that the outbreak could be a false flag or involve a bio-weapon, especially given the timing and the fact that the researcher died under unusual circumstances. However, official reports and health agencies have not confirmed this, and it remains a theory.
Section 230 previously offered immunity from liability for online platforms hosting user content. Recent legal rulings clarify that it is a defense to liability, not an immunity, meaning platforms can now be held accountable for harmful content, leading to potential lawsuits.
AI and automation could shift economies away from human labor, reducing the need for manual work and potentially leading to job displacement. However, they may also increase efficiency and create new roles, especially in technology and maintenance.
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