Peter Schrager Talking NFL, Giants Running Back Cam Skattebo, NFL Season Long Picks + Super Bowl Winners

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OK, let's go. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday. Today is Wednesday, September 9th. And Hank? Yeah. Football is back. Yeah. You're goddamn right it's back. Yeah. Yeah. We've said it. We've said it a million times. This is the first time you're saying it. Oh, yeah. It's so back. How nervous are you? I'm excited. I'm excited. Banner night for the Seahawks. Banner night for the Seahawks, but it's the start of the championship DVD for the Patriots. We locked up Christian Gonzalez. It's an exciting time. You know how it is, Dan, having kids. The summer's nice, but it's like. It can be a lot. It's nice. It's nice to have fallback. Kids are gone. Work's a great distraction. Oh, you're done golfing? During the week, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what is a weekday? We need to go back and have that conversation again. Monday, yeah. Monday through Friday. So, how are you feeling about this game? I'm nervous for this game. I definitely could see a world where the Patriots lose, but I think it just depends. It depends what we put out on the field. Yeah, I mean, the way that Drake made. Like, we. We played so bad in the Super Bowl. As long as we played better than we did in the Super Bowl, I can still walk away from this game looking at it as a victory. What if you play worse? That would be troublesome. Right now, the Seahawks are minus three, over-unders 44 and a half. Drake May's fourth quarter against the Seahawks was the best fourth quarter of all time. Maybe even the best quarter of any time by any quarterback in Super Bowl history. Did you miss this? With the amount of garbage time yards that he put up. Yeah, yeah. So, like, he's on the right track. Yeah. We have momentum. He's running out of time. We got a Drake May lover in-house, but, like, I might be Drake May's stalker. That's good. I'm more obsessed. More the merrier. Yeah. Hop on board. Drake May tracker. I do. I am tracking Drake May this year, by the way. I don't know if you're familiar with this stat, Hank, but. We haven't played a game. No, it's an interesting, like, we gotta have. Oh, football's back. We gotta have numbers that matter. Numbers to keep our eyes on going into the season. I think it's an interesting thing that Patriots now have the biggest swing from one of the least amount of travel last year to one of the highest number of miles traveled. Of course, this season. So they went from. They were a bottom six team. I believe they were number 26 in the NFL last year. They only traveled 12,547 miles. Now, this year, they're traveling 27,590 miles. So they jumped to a top five travel schedule from a bottom five. Yeah, we have a much harder schedule this year. Was your schedule bad last year? I mean, just based off the teams that we played, they didn't have the best records. But this year, it's a harder schedule. When you go to the Super Bowl, that's what happens. Yep. Super Bowl losers. Super Bowl losers are 6-20 against the spread week one. Yeah, I don't think. I don't have the highest hopes that the Patriots are going to win this game. If it gets to 3-1⁄2, though, it feels like. Because doesn't it feel like the Seahawks are so obvious in the fact we just. You know, the last NFL game we watched, they dismantled the Patriots. Like, everyone's going to say, oh, we got to bet the Seahawks. They're going to do it again. It's like, it's a different season. It's a different season, different players. Their hands might be tired from lugging around those giant. Those giant-ass rings that they got. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I don't know what to expect. Because last year, the Patriots, they took such a giant step from the year before. It's like, how much better can they get? Can they improve? Are they going to regress? We don't know. Is this a Will Campbell revenge game? No. Oh, I think it is. I think Will Campbell's. He just makes some decent plays. I don't know how. I'm not super high on Will Campbell. That doesn't sound constant. Will Campbell in your boy. What's the reports from camp? Are his arms longer? His arms are not longer. Reports were fine, but I don't. It's still. It's year two. We got to, you know. We just got to see some balls go through the hoop. The. I don't think he's on a revenge tour yet. What does that mean when it comes to an offensive lineman? What's a ball through the hoop? A block. One block. Yeah. Okay. A block. Some good blocks. Is Travion Henderson going to play? No. Highly doubtful. Disaster for a fantasy team. But we get. It's. We don't have the ability to. We're playing on Wednesday, and then we get a full week and a half off. So I think that's good for, you know, the coming weeks. I highly. I would say no. My report is no. I do not like that the NFL season's kicking off on a Wednesday. I feel. It's weird. It feels. I also forgot. I also thought the Australia game was Wednesday until last week. I think I said it on the show, but that has thrown me off. I also memory hold the fact that I just completely forgot that the NFL added a Wednesday night game for Thanksgiving week. That sucks. Oh, yeah. I don't like it. I don't like that. Blackout Wednesday game. Yeah. They're going Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. It's like, when are we going to. Like, hang out with our families? Yeah. Or like, you know, maybe watch some Feast Week. Oh, you're thinking college basketball. Yeah. Yeah. That's your favorite week of the year. It is. Well, now it's even better. One of my five favorite weeks of the year. Now it's even better with more football. Yeah. Have you heard the derogatory slur being tossed around about NFL fans? No. Shieldies. Oh, I'm a shieldie. Well, no. I don't think you'd agree. A lot of college. No. It's mainly. It's mainly used by college football fans. Oh, we're getting that debate going. To talk shit about NFL fans that only, you know, they parachute in and they see players that the real diehard college fans have been watching for the last three years. So you're talking about. That's Jersey Jerry. Jersey Jerry is the ultimate shieldie. I'm a shieldie. College football's a joke. College football's awesome. It's semi-pro. It's not the college football that we grew up loving. I do agree that. One of my favorite things is when a player. I've said that you didn't love college football growing up. And they're not good in college football and then they're all of a sudden really good in the NFL. Like Bo Nix was a classic example. Every college football guy was like, you don't want to root for Bo Nix in the NFL. It's like, he looks pretty good in an NFL uniform. Bo Nix was good in Oregon. It was Auburn Bo Nix that if Auburn Bo Nix got drafted, I would have been like, no, don't do that. But we. So wait, Hank, you didn't like college football ever in your life. It's true. So to say that you are. You were sad that it's not the same game that you loved. That you never loved. It was the rhetorical we. Okay. As a nation. Yeah. You think it's bad for us? No, I think it's fine. I think the NFL is far superior. Yeah. I think you can love both. I think there's plenty of room. If it's got a football, I'm going to watch it. It's crazy going, switching back and forth between. Like we just did college football week one and like every game was, you know, minus 42 minus 51. And then you see this and you're like, if it's three and a hook, that might be too much. They pay these guys to play football too. Yeah. God damn. That could be too much. Too many points. Three and a hook. All right. So we're going to be streaming this. What do you want to do for food? Hamburgers? No. Clam chowder. Yeah. Let's do some clam chowder. Let's do. Get the boys. Let's get some fish. Belly full of clam chowder. Let's get some fish. Let's get some fish. Fish on ice. get to decide the menu toss some fish around pipe place market yeah let's do some fish on ice for for the commercial breaks i do think there's a weird like every commercial break in seattle they just go to that market it's just you know a big fish on ice i i do think that weirdly the seahawks are being like disrespected a little bit in the fact that all the talk is about the rams and the seahawks did just win a super bowl in a very convincing fashion i we're going to do all of our picks in a second but i i think the seahawks are gonna be really fucking good again yeah like what what makes what what would say what i guess the the seahawks haters out there could be like ah sam donald did it but he can he do it again i think the seahawks haters would say um they got lucky i don't yeah to get home field advantage throughout the playoffs that's probably what they'd say yeah and it's not untrue but you have to get lucky like it's a big part of football it's just if the harder you work the luckier you tend to get yeah banner night banner night it's gonna be loud loud real loud are you ready for that have you been simulating that yeah i mean it'll be loud in the cave too i'm excited you're ready for all the 12s a lot of 12s a lot of uh noise meters hopefully not a lot of highlights of the uh the super bowl i don't know how oh there will be some highlights the rights works yeah maybe maybe it's a limited amount there'll be maybe some bad bunny yeah that'd be awesome it'd be a lot and then i mean thursday night we'll record after thursday night football so you'll hear it on friday's show does anyone have a pick for that game i mean i have to go with the 49ers because they've been there forever yeah like i i don't know what else to say it's a travel bet for me it's just you have to it's auto travel it's a travel bet they've been there so long yeah they are speaking australian they've got the accents um and then the rims just coming in there's no way that this works in terms of the body clock no if it does it's going to revolutionize bachelor parties yeah aaron donald also not playing in that game oh officially officially okay i didn't think that he would i mean that'd be crazy i don't know if he's going to be crazy to you have you've been out of football for over two years and then you just get on a plane fly to australia and did he even fly with the team i don't think so oh man i'd be pissed by the way i was thinking about it i think that uh if goodell really wants to do that was probably part of why i came back yeah i'll come back late and no not go to australia oh like i'll come back yeah if i don't have to go to australia yeah um i think roger goodell if he really wants to do this global expansion of football he should have to go to every game and fly coach like that's only fair yeah you you're making these guys go through hell traveling but they're not flying coach no i know the fans are to get there like the fan yeah yeah yeah i mean most fans i think do fly coach no you had it like that geez man no i'm saying i thought there were more local fans that are gonna be no fans travel from america yeah international games they probably fly business class or coach they go over they collect the pins yeah i want to guys what's actually i did fly this is that was so stupid of me yeah no doubt i went to an i went to an eagles max is back and i did fly coach you fly coach yeah yeah wasn't there a report that like the giants coaches weren't even flying coach at one point oh they were flying coach i think the assistant coaches were flying coach what's what's what's the difference between coach and business class uh business you got a suitcase is there a difference or is that no business class is closer to first class but that's still coach no no business is first i don't even they don't even call a coach anymore it's like economy economy plus business first class but a lot of times business class is first class depending on the plane i think it might be all leg room until you get to first class yeah first and business no business class you get business classes business class you get you get you get good ass seats business depending on the plane coach is now economy got it yeah there's no i don't think i haven't i don't think coach is a thing why they call it probably a stage coach like probably a train car would be my guess i want guys called coach on an airplane i also think each airline calls it different oh the comes from the old practice of borrowing words and seating names from earlier forms of passenger transport specifically trains and stage coaches there it is coach yeah like you know that's where he should fly roger goodell should have to do that with a layout i would agree yeah you should have to he meetings like on zoom because they're back on on new york time because he's not going to all these international games you you put these games on you have to go goodell yeah you have to show up you think these guys have passport day definitely remember passport day yeah big topic of conversation i'm part of my take in 2016 you got huge passport day yeah they definitely have passport day aaron donald probably showed up for passport day and now he's pissed that he doesn't get to go to australia yeah i say pre-check i did like uh one thing that davante entry yeah they asked davante what he was doing to get ready for uh going down to australia for the games and he said that he's just been researching what's typical for americans to know the stuff that's going to kill you the spiders and how dangerous all the water is there so he said the most venomous octopus in the world is found there great whites on the south saltwater crocs on the north koalas and stuff a little bit inland so davante abbs just preparing for what is it the blue ring octopus i believe okay um so that they're they're getting ready they're not gonna spend long enough there i think to get attacked by anything um but they 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winners and wild card and then give us your super bowl and the winner and then mvp lvp also let's throw in that everyone should give a prediction that that is uh a blood prediction for your own team so that we have it on record what your own team's going to do what success looks like just a mini preview of your team memes are you ready i am ready okay i am ready afc uh i don't care if i'm right about this one but it would be nice jets afc east winners okay i just i don't want to pick anybody else okay jaguars out of the south i got the broncos out of the west and then bangles went in the north okay okay and the the uh wild bills ravens texans okay so no chiefs no patriots no chargers no i don't think the chiefs are gonna be very good this year is it it's a like i was looking at the afc in preparation for this it's tough the afc is tough like i did a first run run through and then i was like wait i forgot like three teams yeah they just said that uh my homes is gonna be playing week one yeah so he's good to go maybe not full go but he is going to be the starting quarterback for the chiefs yeah okay and then nfc seahawks went in the west yep saints went in the south eagles went in the east vikings went in the north whoa whoa switch up okay wild card rams lions bears okay so who do we leave out we left out the 49ers the cowboys packers the packers okay interesting now give us your super bowl champion uh super bowl matchup and champion super bowl matchup bangles versus rams rematch in la in la bangles come out on top oh okay that'd be fun that would be fun joe burrow mvp i also have will anderson mvp but that's just okay but yeah why not co-mvps it's happened before yeah and then least improved drake may least improved well that is that wait is it least improves we're doing both i think least improved or lvp least improved and least valuable player we're doing both oh at least oh that's what that meant yeah so we need the least improved is drake may and then we need a least valuable player they're two very different awards yeah because what you're saying is drake may was so good last year that he's not yeah it's either mvp or right well he didn't win mvp right so his improvement would be mvp the only step up could be mvp and if not it's a regression least valuable player memes Kirk Cousins. Oh, dang. Interesting pick. Kirko. Okay, Max. Okay, I had to switch up my. Okay, ready? Yeah, we're ready. Bills, Ravens, Jags, Chiefs. Okay, Chiefs. Chiefs. Chiefs are going to come back. Everyone's down to Chiefs. Then Chargers, Texans, Broncos. Wow. No Patriots. No Patriots, no Bengals. No Bengals. We play this game with the Bengals every year. Someone's going to get hurt. No Bengals. Okay, no Bengals. No Bengals. No Bengals. That's good analysis. I mean, I can't. Wait, oh, we'll go back to Meeb's Jets thoughts, but go. Can I change mine to Tua, the last one, instead of Kirk? No, no, fingers off the piece. No. All right, ready? Yep. Lions, Saints, Rams. Cowboys. Okay. You're taking the Cowboys to win the NFC East. Then Eagles, Seahawks, Bears. Okay. Am I doing Super Bowl or no? Yeah, Super Bowl. Eagles still win the Super Bowl over the Chargers, but just out of the wild card. But the Chargers. Eagles, Chargers, Super Bowl. The Chargers are going to get healthy throughout the year. I don't even know if they're coming back or not. Well, no, not a home game, because it's the Rams. That's more of an Eagles home game. Well, not only that. Yeah, but it's the Rams' stadium. They're just a tent. It's an apartment game for them, a sublease game for them. Right. Then I have Jalen Hurts, MVP. Kyler Murray, LVP. Oh. Jordan Love, least improved. Least improved. Okay. I like it. All right, and then Eagles. So, Eagles, we missed this with memes. Give us your Jets take. What do you think? The Jets are going to do. What's success? Blah, blah, blah. I think the Jets are going to be better than people think. They're plus 20,000 to win the Super Bowl, so there's no expectations for them. I think they actually have a decent to good roster. So, I think they're going to be better than people think. Okay. Okay. Eagles? I think the Eagles are going to be good. It's really hard to win the NFC East two years in a row. I assume it's going to be even harder to win it three years in a row. This feels like a year that we get back to the wild card, but it also feels like a year that we win the Super Bowl. Maybe both, yeah. Yeah. So, that's basically my thought process there. I think it may take – it's a brand-new offense. It may take a little while for everything to click. You may lose a couple games early, but by the end of the year, everything's going to be home. Okay. But I hope we still win this weekend against PFT. Yeah. Not a must-win. Must-win for PFT. No, must-win for, like, this show. But must-win for PFT, maybe. If I didn't know PFT, I wouldn't say it was a must-win. But for my anger coming into the podcast on Sunday, it's a must-win. You needed to – you can't start week one on 10. Yeah. And you will if you lose that game. I needed – the fact that we're starting – The thing is, Max, the fact that Max is saying, like, it wouldn't be a must-win if it wasn't for PFT, like, that's bulletin board. I'm adding that to the bulletin board list right now. What side of the –? I feel like that's, like, a compliment to you. Front side or back side of the bulletin board? No, it's the front side of the bulletin board, I think. And it goes back to – and I'm living in reality. Like, the last 15 years, 20, 25 years in the NFC East, if you were asking an Eagles fan, like, which teams do you hate the most, it's probably the Cowboys. And the Redskins football team commanders are a way afterthought. Yeah. But I'm still using that. That's bulletin board. We've got to get back to that spot. I feel like that's kind of showing respect to the games. It is a little bit of respect to you. I don't know if it's respect. It's respect to you. It's respect to you personally. I want to get back to the place where, like, where other teams hate us. And it looked like, you know, that might have been a possibility. No. Well, I hate you, like – I hate you, too. Respectfully, I hate you. When it comes to the cave, I hate you. Yeah. And I hate losing to you. So, yes. Same. Okay. Zach, you're up. All right. I've got Chiefs, Jets, Texans, Bengals. Wait. Chiefs, Jets, Texans, Bengals. Okay. Then I've got – Cowboys, Lions, Rams, Bucs. No, no, no. Cowboys – No, no. No, no. You've got to finish the AFC. Oh, well, okay. Yeah, wild cards here. I had it in a different row. Sorry about that. So, we're going to do wild card. I'm going to go Steelers, Bills, Ravens. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Give us the AFC one more time. Okay. Jets, Chiefs, Texans, Bengals. Okay. Steelers, Bills, Ravens. So, we've got no Chargers. No Broncos. No Patriots. Okay. This is true. Yeah. No Jags. No Jags? All are true. Okay. Okay. It's preview. NFC, we've got Cowboys, Lions, Rams, Bucs. Wild card, we're going to go – Wait, Cowboys, Lions, Rams, Bucs. Okay. Wild card, we're going to go Eagles, Vikings, Saints. Okay. Super Bowl winner, we're going to go with the Bengals. They're going to play against the Lions. That would be a hell of a Super Bowl. It would be. And? I do have Joe Burrow as MVP. Wait, who's winning the Super Bowl? Oh, that's going to be the Bengals. Okay. So, we have two Bengals Super Bowls, huh? Damn. And then one not making the playoffs. And one no Bengals. No Bengals. We do not team up on this. It's never the Bengals. You guys didn't team up on this? No. Because you guys both have Bengals Super Bowl and Jets to win the AFC East. Yeah, surprisingly no team up here. Yeah. Okay. But some similarities. Least improved, I'm going to go with Bryce Young. Least valuable player, I'm going to go with Travis Kelsey. Hmm. All right. I love that least improved. Like Bryce, that's probably the ceiling. Yeah, he's done it. He very much cooked so deep. Bumped his head against a tiny little, cute little ceiling. The top he's got. Yeah. Okay. Good picks, Zach. Hank? AFC East, Patriots. AFC North, Steelers. AFC South, Jaguars. AFC West, Chiefs. Then I have the Bengals, Bills, and Broncos in the wild card. Not buying the Texans. Triple B. And you got the Steelers winning that division. Yeah. We talked about it. I'm a big believer in, you know. Rekindled love. Rekindled love and guys that had it having it again. Mm-hmm. Throwbacks. Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf. Mm-hmm. Great defense. And then in the NFC, I have the Bears out of the North, the Falcons out of the South, the Cowboys out of the East, Rams out of the West, and then I have the Seahawks, Eagles, and Lions in the wild card. Okay. Okay. Super Bowl, three-peat, Patriots versus Rams, Patriots win again. Oh. I think the Patriots for the Patriots, I think by, you know, week 12, week 13. I think by week 13, much to the chagrin of the world and especially this podcast, the Patriots will just, people will just have accepted that last year wasn't a fluke. Mm-hmm. The Patriots are once again a powerhouse and people are just going to have to deal with it for the next 20 years. It'd be a nightmare. Yeah. Honestly, that'd be a nightmare. Yeah. It'd also be good for the show. I agree. But also a nightmare. Nightmare. So I have Drake May as MVP. Okay. Justin Herbert, LVP. Okay. And Sam Darnold as MVP. As least improved. It's because he didn't win the Super Bowl. Yeah. I don't hate that. Yeah. Least improved Sam Darnold. I'm sure he'd be fine with that. Yeah. If he stays exactly the same. That'd be wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. Never strike midnight. Least improved is tricky like that. Like, man, least improved, you get worse. No. No. No. No, that's, you don't understand what the word is. The opposite of improved is. Least improved could mean just. Stay the same. You chill. Everyone else gets better. You stay the same. You're the least improved. But someone else would be better. Someone else would be less improved if they got worse than someone who stayed the same. Right. I'm saying everyone in Hank's world, every single player in the NFL gets better. Sam Darnold stays the exact same. Got it. Got it. He's the least improved. Got it. Got it. It'd be a great season to watch if everybody improved. It would be incredible. Coaching's never been this good. I still don't think Sam Darnold would be okay with that. I'm sure if he won a Super Bowl, he'd be fine with it. Yeah. If everyone got better, yeah, it probably would suck for him. Yeah. And he didn't. But if he won a Super Bowl, he'd be okay with it. He's going to win a Super Bowl again. But he didn't say that. He didn't say he was going to win a Super Bowl. I'm saying if he did. Oh, then yeah, yeah. Then he'd be fine with it. For sure. Yeah. Like at some point, the, oh man, what if Sam Darnold turns into Sam Darnold? Stop being a bad thing. And now Sam Darnold being Sam Darnold, I think is a good thing. But if he doesn't win a Super Bowl, but throws for more yards, that's still an improvement. That's disagree. I mean, I think he's, Sam Darnold's a team guy. But there's multiple ways to improve. True. Sure. You can always get better at something. Yeah. But 1% every day. What if he improves his like a husband? Improving like whatever. Yeah. I'm an MVP dad. What if he says that? Yeah. Says, you know what? We went five and 12 this year. Life's not all about football. I fucking, yeah. Yeah. Come on, memes. What if he made a commitment to reading a book a month and he followed through on it? Yeah. Self-improvement. That's the worst. Well, I think everyone should read at least one book this year, Max. You don't have to do a new one every month. one total yeah one total what if what if he's said you know what during this football season i'm gonna eat 101 cheeseburgers eat improve i actually don't think that is what about about setting a goal and hitting i've been thinking about doing 100 salads i'm not what i'm sorry that was a genuine laugh what time frame i don't know anytime do they make ice cream salad no they do like chicken salad they should name it would be really it'd be really funny if you did that challenge just because you would eat a salad and then you'd eat lunch yeah that's true yeah you could do that yeah pasta salad who's your winner patriots over rams pft okay uh i have out of the afc i get the bills the bangles the texans and the los angeles chargers wow bolt up bolt up i'm fully bolted you'll see how bolted i am the chiefs colts broncos are gonna be my wild hogs colts new coho yeah we are the colts uh then out of the nfc i've got seahawks saints lions and the washington commanders shocking the world winning that division my wild card teams out of the nfc are the bears the cowboys and the los angeles rams okay my super bowl is bills and lions and i got the bills winning in overtime wow that'd be fun what a super bowl that would be my uh mvp is justin herbert has a great season mike mcdale's got that offense humming he looks awesome true definition of what an mvp regular season could be just awesome regular so he got he got mvp and lvp he is no he's going to no i'm saying in this in this group in this preview but i don't think you and afc champion and if she i don't think you understand how good it's gonna be fired up good of a regular season i think justin herbert's gonna have this year yeah it's gonna be an amazing regular season mvp regular season for justin herbert then yeah in the super bowl i do have the bills and the lions and i got uh yeah bills in overtime beating the lions my uh lvp is marcus mariotta because he's not going to get in at all this year and then my least improved player is trevor lawrence hmm i think that's a max we saw we've seen max trevor yeah he's been trevor maxing and it can't get more max okay that would be awesome i would love the shit what fucking prisco yeah yeah all right what about commanders um i think for the commanders i so last week i was as down as i've been just like it's just the sunday scaries for the nfl season starting again so i went through that i came out the other side because i sat down last night i looked at every position group i compared it to 2024 and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be in the nfl season i'm gonna be in the nfl season across the board every single position group on the commanders going into this year should be better than it was in 2024 with maybe the exception of cornerbacks because we're still waiting to get amos back and once he gets back i would put that group above 2024 so what am i what am i getting so worked up about yeah it's a it should be a better team than it was in 2024 and jayden's healthier than he was uh all season last year so i'm back i'm back i'm fully in i think we're in a great spot because the noise against the commanders has gotten so loud now that i actually think it has been a benefit in terms of like they can actually play the nobody believes in this yeah i mean in 2024 no one expected that yeah so i'm i'm fully back in i can't wait for sunday it is a must win actually first three games yeah you guys have a tough we gotta we gotta go one and two at the minimum in the first three games can't go oh and three because we got the eagles and we got the eagles the cowboys and the seahawks in the first three weeks so we have to get at least a third of a win against the eagles yeah this upcoming sunday yeah okay america's game of the week max um all right i will do my picks i have uh in the afc afc east bills afc north ravens afc west broncos afc south texans my wild card teams are the chiefs the bengals and the patriots so i don't have jaguars i don't have chargers i don't have stealers uh yeah i'm not i'm hot i think the ravens are gonna be really good i've talked myself into the ravens recently i mean yeah they've got a lot of pieces yeah talk myself into the ravens okay in the nfc i have uh the nfc east eagles the nfc north bears the nfc south bucks nfc west rams and then my wild card teams are the seahawks the lions and cowboys the new york giants okay you love the giants weren't you like talking about the cowboys i've switched i've switched to the giants that's insane well what do you want me to do i've switched you said texas super bowl like yeah and then i got off it because someone told me that that's stupid you're also i can't remember who told me that was stupid you're allowed to change your mind though yeah you are allowed to change your mind hank schrager also said that he likes the giants yeah yeah yeah i uh i can't remember who said that the cowboys were gonna suck who the fuck told me i mean there's a good chance that right when the cowboys you have the expectations of the world on them that's when they let you down the most i also wanted to take one crazy one so that was that was really what it is i i if you if you made me bet right now i'd say yeah probably the cowboys over the giants but i wanted to take one there's got to be one team that no one sees going in the playoffs i do think that uh the tyler smith the guard from the cowboys being out is that's a big deal yeah he's the highest paid guard in the world and he's the best guard in the world and he's the best guard in the nfl he's played close to 100 of their snaps since he's been in the league like he's a very very big part of that offensive line and that offense so him being out for like the first month i i do think that's a massive deal yeah uh the super bowl it's gonna be a fun one boys for this show and we're gonna have a really fun time talking about the uh super bowl on super bowl sunday february 14th i believe uh for that monday part of my take it is going to be buffalo bills defeating the fall of the eagles imagine how we'd love that that would be a crazy super we'd love that yeah be a crazy super on valentine's day valentine's day massacre buffalo bills over the fall of the eagles holy shit uh my mvp is josh allen we know what that entails uh my lvp is josh jacobs because he's a scumbag and uh i don't even know if he's gonna play so can't can't be valuable if you're not on the field and they kind of need him i don't want you're forcing me to take the side of josh jacobs in this argument yeah what if their running game absolutely stinks then it's like by omission how valuable was josh jacobs to this offense right but if his if the running game stinks and he's out for six weeks that's his fault and there's more to life in football there's more to life that's good we already established that like being a good human bad yeah but couldn't you also say like most improved player for josh jacobs if he like women in the next 12 months yeah if he's acquitted i guess like great job on not beating anyone yeah something to think about my uh least improved player i think deshaun watson's gonna get worse okay i think he's gonna get even worse i think it's gonna be comically comically bad uh so he is going to to go backwards did you see what the even further backwards do you see what the browns just said that uh shador might not even be the number two quarterback oh is it dylan no no he got hurt right no yeah yeah uh what's his name the guy from arkansas shit quarterback from arkansas i like this green or whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah electric athlete damn she door she does see well that makes me think that they're going to stick with deshaun through everything and that the more deshaun plays the the the least improved he becomes i actually think that the meanest thing that you could do to deshaun i feel like that's tough because this bar for improvements hello yeah that's how bad he's gonna be hank it's gonna be shocking how bad he is if you're a deshaun hater the the best punishment is to make him play football yeah he clearly does not enjoy it he doesn't like playing for that team for those fans be like too bad yeah you gotta go play football but hank i want to take a shot like everyone's you know uh they have drake may as least improved yeah okay he could probably like be third in mvp and he didn't improve think about how bad deshaun has to be to to to go backwards on improvement i think he's gonna be it's true it's gonna be like fun to watch it's gonna get to a point where we're actually gonna enjoy it it'd be great yeah it'd be great uh as for the bears i did uh on the stretch i did uh the blind win losses i have the bears at 10 and 7 i think our defense is going to be really bad we're gonna have to win a lot of shootouts i think it's going to be a year before the year if they can spend a lot of money on the defense next year it's about the offense getting a better which i think it will if the offense becomes a top five unit then the problems that the bears have can be fixed hopefully with offseason draft etc so that's kind of where i'm looking forward to ben johnson new wrinkles yeah i mean i think i i really do like it's it's basically like caleb take another step forward uh luther burden or roma dunze be a true number one and colson loveland be a superstar if those things happen i don't know like the defense is just objectively not going to be good because the entire plan was to build uh a good secondary and half of that plan has already gone up in smoke so is roma doing is okay roma june's day is okay i'm saying the the you know kobe bryant out for the year and then kyler gordon is just not he i think everyone hates him and he's not even practicing so that was that was a big part of the secondary being good because i think oh wait what happened it was his foot right he has he has a foot he has two he's got two feet yep confirmed uh let's see why is he trying johnson says he's more day-to-day okay he's day-to-day i don't believe he'll be out there today but we're hopeful he'll be out there sunday he has like a johnson said he talked about it like being the new normal that his foot is never like it's going to be a little different we said this is a different foot injury than a dunes they was dealing with last season listen i hope rome's okay luther burden's gonna have to step up and be the man i think i think ben johnson's gonna unleash a lot of downfield laterals this year it's gonna look like his last year in detroit which by the way i did some research on that you know how many turnover i think there were 33 designed downfield laterals thrown over the last two seasons um and not counting end of game scenarios you know how many turnovers there were off those 33 how many zero whoa zero ben johnson's gonna dial it up okay okay uh all right so good picks everyone what let's rip around real quick your super winner memes just remind everyone bangles eagles took the bangles also buffalo bills bills patriots okay how many what afc we'll have to make this a graphic and then see who's closest to being right i'm sure well the best part about the nfl season is there's going to be at least two teams that none of us talked about that are going to come out of nowhere and and do it yeah what mvps i have josh allen drake may joe burrow jalen hurts uh joe burrow justin herbert justin herbert nomad stafford all ac except yeah i actually was thinking also like go brad my lvp or lip was gonna i was toying with the idea of puka just because he's crazy and i feel like we've forgotten how crazy he is and we don't know if he's gonna stay sane enough to play he's a quarterback award though yeah well no lvp oh lvp yeah yeah lvp no no definitely not thinking about him for mvp uh okay let's do hot seat cool throne then we got more football with peter schrager and cam scadabo uh hot seat cool 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customers take twenty dollars off your first order with promo code pmt20 in the ticket tick pick app orders must be two hundred dollars or more to apply terms apply there's pm that's pmt20 at checkout for twenty dollars off your first order with tick pick hank hot seat cool throat uh my hot seat is chef d chef d he's he's in some hot water for uh his reporting on the christians gonzalez contract situation what did he screw up this time uh he was saying that there were conversations in the patriots organization recent days if they should withdraw from the offer oh and that they're the the two sides aren't even close this was yesterday do you think that there were conversations or are no conversation i think chef der is just he's he gets a little like he gets one source and he's maybe not doing as much reporting as he used to where he's just going with with his source and kind of carrying the water for that source oh mr editor yeah what you're saying he needs he needs he needs to do you know check his sources check the source because i saw him report that that michigan won the other day he did but i heard that's even up for this it is crazy um a hot seat also love oh no alex earl unfollowed braxton barrios on instagram oh no they've been broken up for a while yeah but then the tv show came out it was it was a lot of braxton barrios in it which show was that again the earl meets world oh yeah i'm behind on that but yeah big that's just you know i haven't wanted to get back together i didn't i actually did what what max um what not a drama from that show a lot of drama from that show what other drama that came from that show a bit alex v alex is at an all-time high right now i i personally didn't want them to get back together i think braxton could do better wow braxton went on a date with lando norris's ex-girlfriend love that's also part of the drama i love that for braxton because alex earl went on a date with lando norris i love that don't love that for braxton little yeah i love it oh so they're just so so wait alex earl and braxton barrios still just madly in love with each other that's who knows you see you've seen unfollow like that seems love is dead yeah but that's exactly like she she wants braxton to hit him up hit her up being like i saw you unfollowed me probably i would even say that like going out with somebody that's targeted because there's somebody that your ex has some connection to that's also probably just signal like hey yeah i miss you yeah big time okay uh and then my cool thing is that i've been on a date with a lot of ones rugby yeah did you take this from pft did i he's trying to yeah i now might have had it on my list okay i want to hear you explain it i'm not gonna save your ass like i did with the flyovers uh i think i nailed that one miles garrett uh there was a video of miles garrett working out with former australian rugby coach billy coffee uh to like hit harder basically and in this drill there he's like teaching him how to you know tackle or like hit with your hips and he the the hits that miles garrett was hitting this guy with i think if i i took one i would die like he was still hitting him through the pad and it looked like a bowling ball going through a wall putting him over 90 degrees to the ground yeah it was pretty crazy but yeah as if miles garrett needed like to learn something more yeah yeah oh yeah we got to pull it up here what what's the contact that he makes because it's it's like cartoon it hurt it hurts to watch oh that had to have been sped up you're controlling it dude no i'm saying i'm i didn't edit the video no i know but it probably was sped up yeah maybe a little yeah i don't know all right so miles garrett's gonna hit even harder he's gonna hit harder yeah and what's weird is like the the type of rug oh my see that that looks intense that one right there the kind of rugby this guy plays you have to try to wrap up it's not the kind where you can just shoulder charge but he's teaching him the shoulder chart so i don't really understand that part but yeah it's terrifying anyone that that is trying to improve miles garrett's uh contact ability um is probably stop please stop doing that for the sake of everybody yeah okay good job hank thanks uh pft um my hot seat is the power in tallahassee so last night we watched a little bit of college football power went out before the game somebody drove a car into a transformer knocked it out and then we got to see a very chaotic but i like that kind of college football where it's like something crazy you really doesn't you literally watch a game every weekend and something happens that you've never seen before on a football field smu is the dumbest team of all time they they should have they out gained them by like a thousand yards they should have won the game yeah by multiple times they should have won the game by multiple scores and they just every time they had a it was crazy is uh is mike norvell the most pre-fired head coach of all time yeah i think so i think he might be yeah he's just got he looks like a nice guy what do you guys he looks like he's already fired yeah he's hank was giving me eyes you guys got eyes i just looked over max was staring at my soul well you were staring at me i agree you looked over at me yeah literally just staring at each other i don't know what you guys have well i wasn't gonna back down he started staring at me we're having staring contests are you guys doing this i don't know are you guys about to go do you think do you think other uh other podcasts out there other sports podcasts have their uh producers just get into staring contests with each other i just looked during an episode i can't exist but you know that your looks are i just looked back you're you have loaded look well max had his mic on and like and my mic was on i looked over to see what was going on i canceled the mic but if you didn't make a sound i wouldn't have looked i did make a sound and i looked back yeah all right continue sorry about that i missed you guys i i think that hank a lot of uh the the grief you get would be uh like minimize by just realizing you do have loaded looks i know i understand i can't this is an existing situation like i yeah if i my face wasn't my face i wouldn't have the issues that i have but because like i understand max was breathing heavy but if you my nose look at max max hat can't back down i guess i don't know i literally just i wasn't staring i just merely looked i mean you have people shouldn't really comment on other people breathing heavily yeah given your yawns let's ask whatever never mind it's kind of relaxing i actually i actually had a couple people like be like i used to be able to fall asleep to pmt but max being on vacation i haven't been able to do it yeah there's not enough white noise on this podcast my my mic is on i need to shut up okay cancel that mic yeah cancel the mic and stop and stop staring i think hey you stop looking max you stop breathing i'm pretty sure if you go to a zoo they have they have this type of problem where they've got certain animals that are next to each other that they have to put up visual dividers so that they don't get distracted during the day and spend all day trying to fight the other guy we might have to do that at some point yeah max is literally a gorilla in a cage and hank is like a little kid that came up and poked the cage you know tap the key the the glass i think we need to put a divider like right next to hank's left side so hank can look at us and he can't see us what do you think about that what were we talking about mike norvell most oh yeah most pre-fired coach coach of all time yeah also hot seat is tallahassee power because uh pup punk is playing there on friday we're flying out uh zach is coming to do a little hometown throwdown with us to get things set up i believe i've had zach agree to get on stage and sing a song nice in tallahassee what song wait signing it or singing it sing either one okay singing you could also sign while you sing too i don't know if i can double two languages at once i don't know if i can speak them well your choice i have to go one you can do either one okay either one it's gonna be your call but that's uh friday night i think it's gonna be an earliest show like 7 7 30 at uh pop bellies is that what they call it zach yes sir pop bellies not the sandwich place but a different place different place yes sir different place but i think you guys could i mean you guys could rip a pop up sandwich place too we might do both wait it's pop bellies but it's not pop bellies it's pop bellies but it's not pop bellies wow i kind of like that i think it's a good idea to do that the idea of zach you you signing that's kind of crazy signing while frankie sings you think you'd learn that yeah it's got to be out there somewhere you're nervous you're nervous it's okay it's got to be out there somewhere but you will get on stage and perform oh i've been to this bar it's a good bar yeah good times uh my cool throne is antarctica did you see the interview with dk metcalf yes he's talking about what he's going to change going into this year kind of where he's at life after leaving seattle seeing them win a super bowl and uh what he thinks about the stealers and it sounds like aaron rogers and him have uh have really hit it off recently because he was talking about antarctica and he wants to know what's really going on there okay so he said i think it's another world i think there's another civilization inside of earth in antarctica because you can go to alaska you can go to the north pole but why not antarctica why can't you book a trip to antarctica can book a trip there definitely um which the article kind of editorialized seemed like it was dunking on him and then he says why is there a secret meeting well it's not a secret meeting but why is there a meeting between every world leader of every country in antarctica specifically i don't really know what meeting he's talking about but i choose to believe that by the un well the that all the countries that have a stake in antarctica they get together and they talk about what to do about like this what happened over the last six months with all the aliens that live in antarctica got it how do we continue to do this and i think that's a really good point and i think we need to keep this secret from dk metcalf and he's all over it and i guess he said that him and aaron rogers have bonded over this type of stuff yeah i was gonna say they'd spend enough time with rogers you're gonna start spitting out some conspiracy theories yeah so i i do think you almost need to be a conspiracy free thinker to even believe that winning a playoff game in pittsburgh is possible this year like you can't be limited to the stuff that's been taught to you and fed to the propaganda that you've heard out there so i you have to think the the the impossible is possible you have to think it's possible for the state to be able to win a playoff game in the state to be able to win a playoff game in the state to be able to win a playoff game in the state to average more than 24 points a game yeah and everyone's going to call you crazy until you do it just so you know so good for dk i'm rooting for him wow that's a crazy iceberg in antarctica i didn't say it right why it's so blue that's like old water that you haven't seen in thousands of years i think that's sick all right my hot seat is uh michigan because they have fallen out of the top 25 ranking and also western michigan is now officially a appealing they say they they said uh replay protocol was not properly followed in the western michigan michigan game and they filed a formal appeal with the ncaa fbs oversight committee to be recognized as the winner i mean what are the chances this happens that would be it would be pretty fucking cool it'd be chaotic yeah it would be awesome so the mac the conference is appealing yeah this game and uh what what is the committee that that they're appealing to the ncaa fbc oversight committee are they allowed to just change wins to losses i guess the college football playoff committee can do whatever the fuck they want yeah and can say like for the record we're going to recognize that as a win uh but this is this is why you have to wait till all the facts come out the mac i don't think did a good job and i would say maybe western michigan they were they were like gracious yeah and defeat they should have been but they should have just not said anything anytime after you lose you have to say i'm going to talk to my lawyers first and then let you know if we actually lost that football game yeah because what they did after the game was kind of admit that they lost which is going to be tougher for them to uh to kind of go back on but i think the premise of what they're saying is what we said on this show which is by the the very rule book according to mike perera uh or the protocol if there's a discrepancy in the clock you go with the clock that everybody that's watching on tv can see right and they didn't do that right uh trivia on henderson ruled out for wednesday oh no so so our team is fucked it's chris rodriguez uh who by the way new face same face new place i fucked that up he's uh back up on the jaguars no longer fourth string on the commanders so i fucked that up okay so good pick by jerry good pick by jerry maybe yeah why not we're in trouble then jesus that's that's early to be in trouble on your do you have a statement thank you i was expecting this and we're gonna have you know an extra week and a half to recover okay yeah that's a good statement print it uh my cool throne is uh umpires on a power trip we didn't talk about this on tuesday's but the i think it was friday night uh the rockies cardinals game doug eddings all-time umpire power trip he uh he demanded that pitcher hansel rincon straighten his hat since no one will wear a hat like that on his field and then when marmo came out to uh talk to eddings the manager for the cardinals he gave uh during a pitching change eddings then called the pitch clock violation and ejected uh the the manager for the cardinals all-time power douchebag asshole but sometimes i'm like i kind of like when an umpire just is like you know what everyone's here to see me is there anything something about it is that a rule in major league baseball that your hat your hat has to be on no his rule his rule he said on his field his field what he says goes yeah and then he also screwed up a play at the plate like two plays later and the cardinals were out of challenges because of uh they were out of challenges so yeah they he's just i think then everyone on the field everyone the next day wore their hat sideways in protest which i love that yeah guy sucks but again there's something about uh umpires that are just like they're yeah this is my this is my game you guys don't deserve to be on the same field as me i i respect we lost that a little bit joe west we lost it all right finish this off zach my hot seat this week is going to be uh lsu because it seems like they may have a double agent in the locker room boys yeah yeah it feels as if lane kiffin's halftime speech is leaked against clemson and they're recording all shoes the whole time is there a chance that this was on purpose yes there's a do you think it was on purpose he would have came like a little more base it feels very organic and natural i think there's a chance i don't i don't know if it's likely that it was on purpose there's definitely a chance that lane was like hey roll tape on this yeah like record my halftime then show me what you recorded we'll see if we want to put it out because i listened to it i was like that was an awesome like that's a killer mentality from lane kiffin i'd want to go play for you're saying get the rough take and then we'll put it out yeah i didn't i didn't do that angle it could depending on how the second half goes yeah put that out and i think by the end of it he was like shooting basketballs and shit on the sidelines while the game was going on i i wouldn't put it past lane to be like hey drop that banger of a halftime speech i just gave now it could be a double agent let me go viral let me go let me go nuclear nuclear yeah got got up i got up gave him all kinds of hell burn nashville to ground now i think that uh the the lawsuit against lsu is very because that seems like it's not something that you would do if you were just if you're bluffing so the sec has has reserved the right to schedule a membership vote on thursday on whether or not to kick lsu out i'd say good luck with that yeah i think that every other school in the sec is probably like hey yeah that's louisiana and they uh they're being charged like lack of institutional control if anything i think the state of louisiana has way too much institutional control and they're being charged like lack of institutional control over over what happens at lsu i think they're they know exactly what they're doing and they're doing it yeah i'd agree what means if you're lsu don't you want to get kicked out because then you're just notre dame and you get to play independent and then you get all that money i don't know because the trick is i don't know what would happen with the rest of your schedule this year and what would happen with the other sports the other sports could be an issue but yeah you could lsu is one of the i think a handful of schools that could command like a media rights package just on their own but definitely i don't think that they want to get kicked out of the sec especially if this is all going towards like an sec big 10 only yeah national landscape i think you'd probably want to stay lsu in the big 10 lsu in the big 10 would be funny come on home yeah maybe jmu to the sec step right in there uh your cool turn uh cool through this week's gonna be mike tomlin mike tomlin spoke a little bit about how he wanted to connect with his kids growing up so what are my kids into my kids are into the game right now let's hop onto mine cool turn his kids grew up with mike tomlin didn't grow out of minecraft he said he's been playing for the last 12 years and he's built his own little mike tomlin no way that's very funny i love that's very funny i need i need to see what that city looks like that is so funny like would he do that to unwind like he'd get home tough day levion bell just tweeted out some softcore porn antonio brown brought k2 spice into the locker room he's trying to hotbox ben roethlisberger yeah i got to just go home and hit the server i got a i got a i got a just chop wood cigarette and a little bit of minecraft guys it is uh tomlin said he needs me his kids come home and one of the first thing they do is like that we got to see the city what are we where are the advances i thought 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this uh schrags we wanted to have you on to talk some football but it's perfect because you got a new show coming out congrats on that what what what should we expect is the a block on thursday going to be to us starting for the falcons no um it won't be that's a mistake that's a mistake i'm not going to try to tell you how to do your show that's a mistake that should be the a block okay we should start with two appendix talk and just do it for an hour yeah that'd be the way to go uh it's the coolest shit i'm getting my own show on espn which is a dream and it's after mcafee so he goes 12 to 2 and then i'll be 2 to 3 every day the challenge is going to be uh you know football i'll be fine and then it goes to basketball season college basketball season i'm excited for that because i've always been nfl so uh the hope is that we're going to provide a show that you're going to want to watch i always say like the goal of this and we've been working on it for quite a bit is that it's on in the hotel lobby it's on on the plane and instead of it just being on on mute or you don't put your headphones on you're seeing it you're seeing energy you're seeing a good conversation you're seeing people you like on television you're like i'll listen to that and then you're hooked and then you're in um you know i i think about all the different shows that i love and you guys are obviously one of them but like i think of howard stern i think of you know whether it be mcafee's guys or simmons's guys it's always like the show within the show where there's inside jokes and it's day to day it's like what are these guys going to say about this that's the hope of it so all sports kicks off uh two o'clock and our whole rule is like no ego no assholes uh just fun celebrate sports and have a good time with it let's not make this feel like it's life or death every single day i love that it's it's a great way to uh approach a show and you said you mentioned howard stern you mentioned us so who's going to be your mincy who's going to be your frank the tank who's going to be your nikki smokes do you have a whack pack waiting uh because it's a hard thing to do it to build the a perfect whack pack there these guys are going to be the ones that are going to uh unemployable otherwise and then you got to find a way to to to have them part of the crew you know it's funny i i was watching the video frank by the way frank could be employed elsewhere but mincy and nikki smokes for sure sure and if i'm not mistaken mincy is still shitting all over the title sponsor that it wasn't big enough of a gift yes correct that is true correct it was a little light it was a little light a hundred thousand dollar production he was up at 5 a.m and they're getting after it whatever that meant give him hell giving him hell yeah it's giving him hell yeah uh no we don't have that yet and i don't know if i'm looking for that necessarily but i do want you know the ongoing thread of like all right it's tuesday and this is what happens and then wednesday we're going to pick up from there which i don't think espn has a lot of where it's like it's usually episodic like day-to-day it feels like an entirely fresh new show i think it's okay if there was a running inside joke from tuesday to bring it over to wednesday or if you want to bring in the audience and there's like a funny theme that you guys have and you finally figure out oh week to week we should bring this back like that's okay to do on espn also it's okay to have continuity amongst the the different days and also you know we have this amazing access and i think you guys have tapped into it when you have berman on and you have some of the legends on like i i've been working the last few months on this show they have every clip from primetime from sports center dude it is an untouched set of archives that i have been going and i told him like it's not showing b-roll of an old play it's hold on a second craig kilbourne did an amazing sonics versus nuggets highlight this day 30 years ago i'm gonna lay out and for three minutes we're gonna play the actual clip of craig kilbourne like resourceful like let's do it let's just show it and dip into that nostalgia because everyone says all the time uh espn is not what it used to be not what he's well it's not and there's a lot of good shit that's going on right now at espn and i hope to lean into that but we can still tap into that nostalgia and show you those clips and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and i think it's going to be a lot of fun and not just the footage of the sports but the actual sports center clips or the actual nfl primetime clips of chris berman doing a falcons rams highlight like i'm excited to dip into all of this yeah that'd be awesome have you thought about getting maybe an italian uh sex addict producer from philly no i haven't that's that could be that should be a strategy for you as well unless he leaves for two weeks in which case the sex addict thing you know it comes and it goes yeah no pun intended yeah exactly um i want to say so i saw the stew finer video of him talking about some local restaurant i would say i've never been to said restaurant i wish i had it on that little piece of content was one of my favorite pieces of content all summer and that's the kind of stuff i would like to explore like you can't look away random stuff like we can and if we have a guest in from out of town and steve smith is going to be on a lot that wide receiver and he's awesome we'll work together nfl network if we want to do man on the street stuff with steve smith and get him into like different situations let's try it so there's going to be some different feels it's going to feel like we're breaking the fourth wall a little bit that's the hope all right so we are uh as we're airing this the nfl season is going to kick off where we have uh our first game of the of the entire nfl season but i had a question for you because listen we know that you're tight with certain coaches around the league what the fuck is sean mcveigh doing with this plan in australia and how he's definitely explained it to you and you've been like this makes sense peter but i still can't understand that they're like the the 49ers have been there for a week and the and the rams are going to fly in fly out what what's going on is it i i can't imagine this doesn't affect how they're going to play uh against the 49ers in australia it's interesting because there are members of the organization who are already there so like they've got a bunch of front office guys and and executives that are there their radio guys are there so it's not like everyone's on the sean mcveigh plan but they have a very very detailed plan and their thought is this flight is what x amount of hours the adrenaline of us getting up off that flight playing a 10 30 a.m game locally in melbourne by the way it's going to drive you nuts people say it but it's pronounced melbourne not melbourne um they have a 10 30 a.m game there his theory is this we come on we got a long flight we get off the plane we play football we come back on this flight and then we have 17 more weeks of the season to play i'm not looking to dedicate 10 days out of our calendar year to one game where we have to adjust our sleeps to the Melbourne, but then we're going to come back and have to get back on America. The pure adrenaline rush. And this is what they did last. You've probably seen this, but last year he was like, let's throw out the plans of other years. Let's fly into Jacksonville the day before let's beat the shit out of the Jaguars and let's get out of town. And it worked. So he's rolling the dice again. There are different sleep science experts that say that if you have something in Australia from the West coast, this is an advised way to do it. Where if you have a one day, whatever it's a film premiere, you have to do something. You come in, you do it the day of, and you get out and then your body's not messed up for a month. So whereas the Niners might be on a perfect sleep track and they can wake up, they're still playing at 10 30 in the morning in Melbourne where that's not going to be normal anyway. So completely different philosophy, but McVeigh, I mean, texting yesterday, he's still here in the States. Like it's crazy. And Yeah. Meanwhile, the Niners have basically been there for two months. It feels. Yeah. I would argue that that playing a football game is a little bit different than attending a film premiere in terms of how much it demands from you physically. And I can, but I can see the philosophy of being like, you know what? Fuck this game. If the NFL wants us to go to Australia, I'm not going to dedicate 10 days and then risk, you know, the back half of that when you come back to the United States and then you have to turn around and play the next weekend. I could see that being a big advantage for the Niners this weekend, a big disadvantage. Disadvantage for them as they try to go back to the U S and pick up their schedule. So maybe that's what they might be thinking because it doesn't, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me that you can just like kind of get there and just rely on adrenaline to get you through that, that game. So I've got notes on this because I actually, I disagreed with it as well. And there's a guy named Leon Lack and he's one of the leading sports sleep experts. And I'm reading off my notes, but he says their body clocks were likely not have changed very much in one day. And Lack said the reaction time and muscle strength of players is at its best late in the afternoon. And the Rams could go to bed early on Thursday night in Melbourne, wake up about 4 AM on Friday, which be late morning Thursday at home, giving them something of a typical lead in they would normally have. And yet the 49ers body claps would adjust to the local time throughout their week. And they'd be getting up at this unusual early morning start for a 10 30 game, which they've never played before. So it's basically like, we're just gonna balls to the wall, go do this and get out of town while the Niners have been that. It's funny. The Niners thing. Also, the Niners will be doing all this NFL promotion for the game in Australia. So whereas I haven't heard it from the 49ers people, I have to think they're not only doing football stuff, but they're also wearing this like ambassador of football. And we're going to do all the NFL events and the international events where the Rams are like, no, we're getting in. We're going out. We're not, we're playing a football game. We're not here to do the song and dance. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That does. It does make sense. And I'm very interested to see how it all shakes out. If I'm the Rams, I would almost just say, like, I put like blackout rules in effect. Once you get there, like, we're not even going to look at the sun, maybe even just like put blindfolds on your guys and be like, we're going to simulate the time of day that I want it to be that it's, it's Los Angeles. You're not allowed to look at the sun. You're not allowed to be in the sun until we get out there and we get, we show up at the field for game day. That's it. And, and it's, they play the giants in, you know, a couple of days later and nine days later, and it's like Monday night football and we have a way we go. And then for them once they play this game um but i think they are probably pretty confident after a great summer yeah the one entry i feel like i'm going 100 miles per hour here but i do want to call out there's a there's a reporter and like video guy whatever grant cone out of san francisco who is very controversial amongst niners fans because he's always he's an antagonist to the team and he'll criticize a lot and he'll be one of the guys in the media who actually takes on the team and the organization he's been there for about five days doing content from aussie rules football games and being very serious about it and like shitting all over the local team and like killing their coach and doing all this stuff it is incredible content and i'm like this is maybe the gift of these international games where we get our american reporters overseas and they're like here are the keys go and make content and i and i don't even know grant cone and i know a lot of niners fans are probably throwing uh you know their their remote at the netflix screen right now but grant cone is is doing a fantastic job with content just absolutely bashing the local aussie rules football team i love it it's fun it's cool i love it i love it all right so let's talk about the rest of the league uh we're going to get your super bowl pick at the end but before we do that give me a afc and nfc team that you think is going to surprise people this year whether it be through things you've heard people talking about it scrimmages you know preseason games which you can't really take a lot out of or something they added who who who do you have your eye on both afc and mc like people are not paying enough attention to this team yeah nfc i i think the giants are going to be very good i i know that's like kind of a vogue pick and i'm in new york city and it's very easy for me to pander to the local fans um and get a couple new followers that's not i have been to practice i have talked to the team like it is night and day than what it's been the last decade since coughlin left they spent 14 days in west virginia together living in basically college dorm rooms at the greenbrier all hanging out breaking bread and like came together almost as if like one of these movies where or surviving barstool if you will like you you put it out there and you're like all right we're all going to be together and we're going to come together on the same page and harbo is just an adult in the room and they've been hitting like they hit for two and a half hours they're hitting in these practices and i like dart i think darts legit so i think the giants despite a very difficult schedule and a hard you know first two weeks cowboys and then rams i i think the giants are going to be back i think they're going to be back and they're going to be back and i think they could be a double digit team this season i'm with you on that i think the giants were a team last year that you looked at them they were in so many games and just getting a little bit better on the edges i mean especially like special teams that's what harbaugh will do instantly if jackson dart can stay healthy i do think they're going to be a big improvement team yeah and i would add that their defense has a lot of top 20 in that front seven and they just haven't come together so you have the abdul carter you have obviously reese who's been awesome as a middle line backer for them but then you also still have brian burns and tibideau who are now veterans but like are still awesome pass rushers when they get going so the hope is it all comes together and i don't know i just being around that team it's interesting you know to get in the weeds a little bit they've matt naggy as the offensive coordinator which i'm sure you have your thoughts on and you got greg roman who's running like the run game then you've got brian callahan who's working with the quarterbacks then you got then you got a guy um it's actually uh i'm going blank on the last name but i'm going to go with the quarterback because i'm going to go with the quarterback i don't know i'm embarrassed it's actually kelly stafford's brother oh yeah chad hall chad's the man and he's coaching the wide receiver so you have all these guys who have been in all these different systems with all these different quarterbacks and you're putting them all together as almost like a frankenstein and you might say yeah but callahan wasn't a great coach and naggy wasn't a great coach and greg roman's you know been let go of the last few places that said they've all had a lot of success in this league with great quarterbacks so the hope is they all pour themselves into dart and dart can you know rise above with that so so i'm in on the giants and chad hall i'm sorry that was embarrassing no that's all good he's a good dude yeah at air force yeah yeah he's he he is uh he's a very good uh wide receiver coach all right then afc afc is different i feel like it's so top heavy in the afc and there are so many good teams that you can pull one out of a hat and say okay well that's your team but the cinderella team is a little bit more difficult to find i'm not sure i'm jumping in on the titans yet i'm not sure i'm jumping in the raiders yet and i think you're looking for like one of those off the radar squads the team that i think is going to be actually significantly better and that might actually hurt the fans feelings based on what they want in the draft i think the cleveland browns are going to be okay this year yeah i agree with that as well yeah two really good drafts in a row solid defense i know they traded miles garrett but jared verse is is not this huge drop off and is also an emotional leader and a leader in a way that i'm told is galvanizing everyone so like those players aren't looking to tank and munkin isn't starting deshaun watson because you know they're trying to lose you know they're trying to lose you know they're trying to lose you know they're trying to lose games starting deshaun watson because he outplayed chador this summer so i think cleveland's going to be a pain in the ass i think they might be pretty good i'm talking like seven eight wins better than they've been in the past uh but i don't think there's a patriots like last year where you go from the third overall pick to being a super bowl team yeah i was looking at that win total for the browns i think it's five and a half um but but with that defense it is like it's and that schedule also is the other side of it the schedule combined with how good that defense they can win some games 13 to 10 yeah and so i would not be shocked it's hard to tank in the i can't remember the last time that a team actively tried and accomplished tanking in the nfl no and the one year everyone thought the jets were doing it they beat the rams in like week 14 and it cost them trevor lawrence like it you don't give tanking because all these guys are fighting for their jobs and the coaches want to stay the coaches so they don't yeah like it's hard to tell them it's different than other sports so what about uh what about first year head coaches guys that we haven't seen before which one of these guys do you think is going to be the most interesting or or um you know like refreshing like are we which guys are bringing something new to the table here yeah like you know i look at joe brady and he's got some shit to him and he didn't just win that job or get that job because josh allen tapped him they they claim and you know brandon bean is not only a friend of your show and a friend of mcafee's and talks quite a bit but i can tell you straight up brandon being the gm said we tried to do as objective an interview process as possible we had a bunch of different candidates they all came through the door and dable had history with josh allen and davis webb had history with josh allen and joe brady blew the doors off and joe brady was the guy um i think joe brady is going to be a really interesting one and of course minters the other one based on the fact that it's It's the New York Knicks theory. That's how I look at it. It's like everyone was like, well, why would they ever fire Thibodeau? He got because the message got old and we need to try something different while we have this young core. And Mike Brown happened to be the guy that got him over the hump. I think both Minter and Joe Brady, the hope is that new, fresh, younger voices can get these guys where they have to be. Okay. Give us, you know what? Let's just do your Super Bowl pick. Do you have it already? Because I've, speaking of the Bills, a second ago with Joe Brady, I'm toying with, we're going to do our Super Bowl picks in our preview actually in this episode that you're listening to right now. But I'm toying with the idea of the Bills. I know that that is, I think there's probably a laundry list of people in the media who've picked the Bills in the last seven years. Can't worry about that. And I'm doing it, maybe not even because of Joe Brady, who I think is going to be very good, but I'm doing it because of my guy, Jim Leonard, a defensive coordinator who I think is an unknown in terms of like how high he can take this team, the ceiling, might be unknown in terms of defense. Wisconsin fans absolutely love Jim Leonard. Oh, I love him. He was my favorite Badger when we were at school at the same time. He's just, you know, a walk-on, just did everything, had an unbelievable, you know, NFL career, given the fact that he was a walk-on, now a coach, all these things, love Jim Leonard. So I'm toying with the Bills. But you have, what was your streak that you had? I did really well. Like over the course of six years, I either got the exact matchup and the Super Bowl winner right, or I got the matchup and not the Super Bowl winner, right? Or I just got the Super Bowl winner right. And then last year I swung and missed my first year at ESPN. I come in with all this pomp and circumstance and I'm like, it's going to be Eagles, Bills, and it's going to end. Last year was a tough year. I mean, I don't think anyone had the Seahawks and the Patriots playing in the Super Bowl. No. And I, and I, and it kind of made me want to this year, like really swing for the fences, like out of my shoes and do something crazy. And the more I look at it, I'm like, I just don't see it this year. I feel like there's a lot of teams chomping at the bit. So I'd like to do it on your show. Why not? I was going to save it. It's two teams for me and it's the rest of the world. It's Rams versus Seahawks. And I had a clip on McAfee last week where I did a whole spiel about the Seahawks and how everyone's talking about the Rams. We had a segment on, on get up basically saying, is it the Rams or the field? And I almost couldn't even fathom stepping on set with that conversation considering the Seahawks won Seahawks have been sitting quiet in the Pacific Northwest and all the Rams fans are coming after me. Like you're a trader, you know, you're McVay's guy. You've been with us all along. I'm like, I'm not, I don't play for either team and I don't care about either team. And yet the more I look at it, the only thing that holds me back on the Rams, the only thing is that I knock on wood. I fear what happens if they have health issues at the quarterback position. If Stafford goes down, they are not, they are not equipped. Last year they had Jimmy G and they didn't need them, but Jimmy G can win you games. And this year right now it's Stetson Bennett and Ty Simpson. And that, that gives me a lot of fear if I'm a Rams fan. So let's hope Stafford is standing up out of the NFC. I think the Rams are going to win that thing. Yeah, come back home, come back home, Peter. It's always good. I'm not going to fuck you, Peter, all right, listen. Come back home and I apologize to Adam Ray and Jeffrey Dean Morgan and all the other nuts, Seattle Seahawks fans who are liking my video about the Rams getting too much hype. I just, I just think they're so damn good. And I think Garrett and McDuffie are two of the best defensive players in football. And then you add in Donald, which I don't know what version we're getting. But you have to think about that because it's hard to come back after two seasons. Like there's, there's being in great shape. I'm sure. I'm sure he's in great shape, but you see a lot of guys, they, they get out of the league and you know, it's good for them. They lose a lot of weight. Get that, get that body fat percentage down a little bit. Like, has he, is he going to be able to jump back into the trenches where you have to be, you know, big, strong and used to violent physical contact? I don't know if it's going to look great right away, honestly. And from what I'm like, what I'm told is like Labor Day, they're not allowed in the building this whole weekend. So like he didn't practice necessarily the first day he was back on the Rams with the team. He hasn't been hitting with them the last couple of days. Do you roll out, you know, how many snaps week one you're playing against the Niners. Does he play 20 snaps? Does he play 10 snaps or is he out there for 60 snaps and Sean hasn't given a real indication and anyone who tells you that there is a plan and they know the plan that's not been shared to anyone. So I don't know. And we'll see what version we get. But over time I would imagine Aaron Donald's going to make an impact down, you know, especially next to Garrett. My, my biggest knock on the Rams is just the super teams and the most obvious team never wins. And, but that's not really a, not like that has nothing to do with football. That's an idiotic thing to say, right, right, right. And their counter to me, cause I I've been kind of saying that is, I know it wasn't dubbed a super team, but when we went out and traded for Vaughn Miller and we done it and traded for Dante Fowler and we went out and traded for Jalen Ramsey, he went out and traded for Odell Beck. I'm like, we made all these moves. Like that wasn't considered a super team in 2021, but we collected a bunch of assets and did win a super bowl. I get it. Right. Okay. And then the AFC. Yeah. I mean, it was a super team. It was a super team. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. It was a super team. It was a super team. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. It was a super team. It was a super team. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. Yeah. Yeah. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. Yeah. It was a super team. To make or break here for Zach Taylor, remember now, their owner is 92 years old, goes to practice every day, and is still very much a part of this team. And his daughter and his granddaughter are very involved too. And Duke Tobin, who's been the GM, has been there for about 30 years also. So this is not a team that just tears it all down and starts anew. This is a team that believes in loyalty and a team that really trusts what they have in store. Now, Marvin Lewis eventually lost his job. Zach Taylor took over. But they're kind of hitting that same point right now. And I would think with 11 returning starters on offense and a really good defense and two of the best players in all of football in Burrow and Chase, that they are a playoff team in the AFC. Okay. What about a team that everyone is high on that you're not as high on? Let's do some negative talk. Yeah, this is not where I usually – I know, I'm going to make you uncomfortable. But you know what? You got to get ready. You're doing a show every single day. You're going to have to say some negative stuff. I know. I'm curious to see what we get from the Philadelphia Eagles. Me too. I am too. That's not bad. I'm curious. I'm very curious. He's finally back. I'm sorry, brother. You said something very interesting about the Houston Texans there. What? That they have a really good defense and that their defense is Super Bowl caliber and if they can get anything from their offense, they can win a Super Bowl. What about that doesn't describe the Philadelphia Eagles? That's fair. He just said he's curious. He said he's curious. Here's what I'll say. And here's what I'll say. They interviewed 17 different offensive coordinators and they went with Sean Mannion. That's a lot of interviews. How many did you guys do, PFT? I mean, we had our guy in-house, David Blau. The future is Blau. That's what you said. Wait, wait. Max, you got to chill out. The season hasn't started yet. He's not angry. He literally just stepped off of a boat from Italy. It hasn't started. I was on a boat one day. He's not being negative about the – he's fly curious. He's curious. The defense – The defense is there. The defense is there. The offense is question marks. It is there. There are some players that aren't there this year that have moved on to different spots. But there are new players there that are really good players. They have – Rick Woon's a very good player. They have a full roster. Very good player. They have a full roster of players. There are a lot of guys who play in the NFL, Peter. You forgot about that. And I'll tell you this. Talking to guys there, I was like, well, Stoutland's a huge loss. And they're like, yes, but Cooper's been great. And also, this offensive line looks fantastic right now. So, that was another fear of mine. So, Mannion not having – not having any play-calling experience, kind of being a first-time play-caller in Philly with that spotlight. No A.J. Brown. The pressure now of, hey, we had to do this because of the relationship, whatever. But, all right, we're relying now on a bunch of guys, Hollywood Brown and Dontavian Wicks and Kyle Lemon in year one. These are legit questions. And I just – the Eagles to me have always been take a pen, put them in the playoffs. They're straight. They're good. That's one team that you know is going there. I just think this year I'm curious to see year one with a first-time playoff play-caller at offensive coordinator. All right, I got another team I'm curious about. And maybe you can give us some insight. Is Patrick Mahomes just going to be, like, totally fine week one? Because I don't believe it. And it's not that I don't think the Chiefs can be good this year. I think their defense has gotten younger. I still don't know. I mean, I love the Kenneth Walker ad. I still don't know what to expect from their wide receivers. But it all relies on Patrick Mahomes. And this guy got injured. He tore his ACL, what, nine months ago? Yeah. And, yes, he is. He is superhuman. And, yes, when healthy, he's the best quarterback in the NFL. But are we, like, what have you been hearing? Is he going to be just fine Monday night against the Broncos when they open up the season? Apparently, yes. And, again, I have doubts also. And that team as a whole going 6-11 last year, losing all the close games when they usually typically win those close games. Did they do enough to just say, well, that was a one-year blip? They got older everywhere. And then they totally tore down the defense, drafted four guys with their first four picks on defense. And, like, all four of those guys are going to play a role. You know, we're throwing them all right into the mix. Traded McDuffie. Like, there's a lot not to like. I've learned in all these years to not doubt Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. So, I would say I'm leaning more towards wild card team than out of the playoffs. Yeah. But there's a lot of questions. And, you know, Mahomes' health is the last of them. To me, this is an offensive line that left a lot to be desired. Spent a lot of money on Kenneth Walker, who was never really the primary guy in Seattle. And you're just assuming that, hey, this defensive backfield, which was completely gutted over the offseason, is going to be okay because they drafted a guy sixth overall and they brought in some other guys. So, I don't know. I trust that building. I trust that team. I trust that coach. And I trust Spagnuolo. But I'm usually like, Chiefs, Super Bowl, let's go. I can't do that this year. All right. So, it's okay to be curious. I mean, it's a loaded. The West is going to be. I mean, the Broncos are a really, really good team. It's going to be what Bo Nix can he take another leap. The Chargers. I feel like every year the Chargers is like, hey, if they can stay healthy and they can protect Justin Herbert. Right. So, there's some good teams there. It's like, man, are the Chiefs, are they going to miss the playoffs two years in a row? That would be kind of crazy. I did see Tyreek Hill's last three tweets. And he's been off Twitter for the most part this offseason, I guess, working on his health. His last three tweets were, hmm. And then the tweet after that was a quote tweet of Patrick Mahomes, throwing him that touchdown pass in the playoffs against the Bills when they're down 26 to 29. And he said, Pat, a wild boy for even throwing this. And then today, he tweeted out again, hmm. So, I ask you, if you're Tyreek Hill, are you thinking about coming back to the Chiefs? And do you think the Chiefs would have him? Yes. I think it's all very possible. Let's see where his health's at. I'll tell you this. For all the star players that leave teams and get traded, the one relationship that I always found cool was that the Chiefs guys still love Tyreek Hill. And that's when they played against him in a playoff game a couple years later, the hugs before the game and all that. But Brett Veach, Andy Reid, to a man, none of those guys ever spoke ill of Tyreek Hill. They're basically like, he wants to get paid. We're not looking to pay him that. We're going to trade him to a destination he wants to go. Miami was the place. And in return, they basically filled out an entire draft class that ended up being Karlaftis and McDuffie and all those guys that they got in that loaded 2022 draft, I think. I think the fact that they drafted him in the sixth round, and he was a running back in college, and he had this career in Kansas City, I think there's a lot of love for Andy and Veach for Tyreek Hill. I don't think they're going to go down that road unless, A, he's healthy, and, B, they feel like there's a need for what Tyreek Hill can bring. So let's wait on it, but I certainly wouldn't close the door. I would love that reunion. And it's almost like Odell coming back to the Giants. Like, there was no greater player when he was on his game than Tyreek Hill for the Kansas City Chiefs. And the hope is that maybe he can end this career with a chapter or have another couple years. To this career with a couple chapters with the Kansas City Chiefs. I would agree with that. I'm going to give you the opportunity to make one of us hate you on this show, if that's okay. Yeah. So at the end of the season, if we look at the three quarterbacks that Hank, Big Cat, myself took in the draft a couple years ago, which quarterback are we going to say turned it up the most this year, showed the most improvement, most upside? Which quarterback are we going to say we might want to be having some uncomfortable conversations about that quarterback? Within the next year or two. Yeah. I don't know how much further a huge leap Drake may can make when you go from being, you know, a quarterback who didn't do it all his rookie year, then all of a sudden be second in MVP and almost win that award. So I think as far as the Delta goes, I don't think you're going to get another huge leap out of Drake May in year two out of Josh McDaniels. I do think Caleb has a lot more he can do. So I'm going to say Caleb's going to be the one that's going to hit these new ceilings. And Jaden, I'm just curious to see what this team looks like. I'm sorry. I love you. I, I just, David Blau is also a 30 year old first time coordinator call and plays. They lose tons all and Stefan digs in the corn. I I'm not sure that this is the best situation for a huge year for Jaden Daniels. And if he does it PFT, I would think this guy is an MVP candidate. I would make the argument. I, I, by the way, I kind of agree with the premise of what you're saying that we don't know what the offense is going to look like. And last year did not give us a ton of room. To hope after watching, you know, he was only, I think healthy for like three or four games last year. Not a lot of good stuff to say about last season. So I kind of agree with the premise that you're saying, but I would say that the team offensively is more talented than it was when we got to the NFC championship game. Fair, fair. And that team had a lot of older veterans and guys that were like brought in as like, you know, emotional locker room leaders that ended up playing in an NFC championship game that no one expected. So fair. And look, you see the league like Washington. If Jaden, if Jaden's good, like they're, they're competing with everyone last year, they went Oh, an eight and primetime games. You watched every one of them. It sucked. It was terrible. It was just unfortunate. So I don't know. I have a lot of love for that team. I feel like they have a lot of good, you know, young players. I just don't know if they're going to be in the mix this season. That's fair. Okay. And then what about, what about the NFC South? Cause I feel like that's a division that is wide open. Yeah. I always like lean on just like Baker Mayfield's the best quarterback in that division. So I feel like, you know, Tampa is going to be in the mix. I know they lost Mike Evans, but last year it came down to the final game. Obviously they beat Carolina, but then due to tiebreaker Carolina gets in. To me, you pick your team. There's four of them. Obviously if two is good, the Falcons can do it. If show, if Tyler shock takes this huge leap, they can do it. And then obviously Carolina and Tampa, there's going to be a 10 and seven or nine and eight winner of that division. They're going to have the four seed and they're going to play in the playoffs at home one game. Then we'll see what happens from there. It's what it is every year. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's fair. All right. Peter, I got one last question for you. It's actually Zach's question. Zach's going to take it. Row back question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code TAKE. Zach, you ready? Yes, sir. Pierre, I did have a quick question for you. If Roger Goodell were to be deemed unfit tomorrow to do his job, you're appointed commissioner of the NFL. What's our first thing, first order of business? You step into the office. What are you getting done? Good question, Zach. Great question, Zach. Great question. This is a crazy answer, and my friend Adam Weinberg, who I grew up with, all right, nice boy, he brought this up to me a couple months ago. We've been talking about it. The first thing I would do is I would institute an NFL draft lottery. I would do an NFL draft lottery, and this is the year I think this would be the perfect reason for it. You've got all these teams with these multiple first-round picks with these great quarterbacks, whether it be Manning or Moore or C.J. Carr, you name whoever it is, Chambliss. You're going to be a quarterback frenzy. There are some bad rosters, Cardinals, Dolphins, Jets. You could say the Browns. They all are jockeying for who's going to get that first. A draft lottery like the NBA has, of course, we can make it into a massive TV event. Again, I'm citing my friend Adam. This is not my idea, but I love it. Do this in between. Instead of the Pro Bowl, do this in between the last week of the playoffs before the Super Bowl. You captivate an audience. Do it in Vegas. Do it at the barstool. Do it in the Chicago offices. Do it somewhere fun. And you all of a sudden have this. You get rid of the tanking, but you have this little extra wrinkle that you can make on this thing, and you can do it. So, okay, we're not even talking about tanking. And also, it's another cool, fun event, and it's a way to, you know, throw this whole league upside down again and get the fans engaged, even if your team misses the playoffs. I hate it. But, hey, listen, you took a shot. Why do you hate it? Why do you hate it? I don't know. I like if you're really, really bad. If you win two games in the NFL, you should have the number one pick. That's such a miserable experience to lose that many games. Like, you should have the number one pick. You shouldn't have. If you win two games, then somehow lottery luck goes against you, and you end up with the fifth pick. That would be devastating. But what if you weigh the balls in a certain way where you make it where it's, like, very advantageous for those bats? Of course. Yeah, yeah. And so there's even a, like, to me, you know, I look at it. I'm like, all right, so the Dolphins are going to go 2-15 this year, and then they just get gifted Arch Manning, and it's like, well, their coach already halfly is like, we're going to play hard. We're going to try and everything. But, like, look at the roster. It's just if you have a lottery, it's all right. You have to go out and try to do everything. You might as well. And then, by the way, it's the Ravens or the Steelers might get the first overall pick instead. Sorry. So I think the difference with the NFL is that having the first overall pick and picking the first overall quarterback still doesn't mean the quarterback's going to be great. And that's the beauty of it. It's like there's – picking quarterbacks in the NFL is so fucking hard to do that it's like you're already kind of gambling on the fact that, like, you could have a great pick, but you could pick the wrong quarterback. You could have the third pick. You could have the fourth pick. Like, you could still pick the wrong quarterback or things could go wrong. So I'm fine with how it is. I would say no more international games. That would be my first rule if I was Goodell for a day. You know, I read something today that, like, the NFL – you know, Goodell just got a new deal. It's 2031, and it's incentive-based, which means the more money the NFL makes, the more money he makes. And I think a lot of those incentives are tied in the global expansion of this game. Don't like it. And it's flag football. It's for boys and girls, and it's international. So, Big Cat, I hear you. I don't love the fact that we're doing a Wednesday, Thursday, Monday, then we have – I don't love it. A traditionalist, if you will. Yes. That said, they want this golden goose. I get it. I think there is an actual, like, argument to be made about the scarcity of the NFL and why it's so popular, and we are going to eventually screw that up when it's, like, you put a game on every single night. It's Mark Cuban's argument, right? Yeah, and listen, he said that, like, 10 years ago. It couldn't have been more wrong. And I'm going to watch it, but I do think that when you take, like, you know, whether it be the Black Friday – like, traditional spots that are for college football or other sports. And you start just gobbling them all up, I think it does – and it also makes it – you know what it does, too, is, like, we talk about it, but, like, you have to load the Christmas day, right? You have to load that slate. Guess what happens? That Sunday, you have, like, six matchups, and they all kind of stink. Like, I don't know. I just – My argument would be more towards I think they need – obviously, Roger Goodell's job is to try to acquire new fans of the NFL. Like, the NFL is the biggest sport in America, so if you really want to make more money for the leagues and for the owners, and make the franchises worth more money, guess what they want you to do? Get more eyes watching football, and the way to do that would be to look to other countries because you look like in the United States, it's almost close to saturation for what you can do. But as you do that, I still think you run a very real risk of making diehard fans that in the past, like, lived and breathed and bled and pissed and jizzed the NFL. You run the risk of having them, you know – Yeah, it's a Warren Zevon lyric, look it up. But if you get into that, like, you do run the risk of losing that fan base a little bit, and they are really the ones that, you know, are the most valuable customers to have, the ones that in the past historically have bought all the tickets, bought the Sunday tickets, you know, gone to the ends of the earth to watch their favorite team and to watch the NFL. And I feel like that fan base is going to get neglected as Goodell tries to keep expanding internationally. That's all I'm saying. A hundred percent. I totally get that. And I think the one o'clock window becomes now, all right, those are the, you know, the games that I don't necessarily think, you know, are primetime worthy. And it's not going to be Thursday, Sunday, Monday, and in this case, these holiday games. And that's really the risk you run, that Sunday window. It's all fair. I've said this on your show before. I'll say it again. I used to work on the Fox pregame show. For many years, I would fly out to L.A. and do the Fox pregame show. If you've got football games every morning at 9.30 a.m. on the East Coast, you know, international games, I'm not some, like, I don't have, like, so much feeling where it's like, I can't believe that we're not going to have Nate Burleson and, you know, Russell Wilson talking about the game at 12. But you do run the risk of people completely being done with these pregame shows. Yeah. Because why would you ever watch a pregame show when an actual game is going on? Yeah. That's very true. And I do, I got one last question for you because it just popped up. We didn't have, we haven't really talked about it that much on the show because, quite frankly, we're idiots and feel like sometimes we're not equipped to talk about, like, serious things. But the study that came out recently about brain health in NFL players and where they look back at the numbers of people that have donated their brains, is that something that Goodell's looking, is that why we're looking at flag football moving forward? Like, he's getting heavily invested in that. Where do you think Goodell stands on that? Because I do see that as a possible threat to the future of the league, too. I mean, they have a whole health and safety team, obviously, that are working on it. It's why you've seen so many rule changes. I will say this, to the league's credit, and you might say, oh, you're just talking to the league talking points. They said, with this new dynamic kickoff last year, concussions went up. They didn't like that. So they've got to figure something out and say, OK, not all these rule changes are necessarily, you know, great for health and safety right out the gate. So let's see what we can do with that. I think the flag football, obviously, is they want more people. And I want boys and girls. And I think the trickle-down effect of, you know, you go to Long Island at any weekend out in Syosset or Roslyn, there's, you know, 60 different fields of girls playing flag football. The trickle-down effect is, oh, I love this sport Sunday, whereas maybe in generations prior, those girls aren't sitting home on the couch watching football. They are now because they look at themselves as the next Diana Flores or, you know, Ashley Clam or whoever these other young female superstars in the flag football world are. So I think that is two-pronged. Yes, health and safety, but also you're talking about new audience and entirely untapped, resource of young girls across America who can play in college football and then can eventually be fans for life. I do like the idea of, like, a big meeting at the NFL headquarters. And they're like, we have 50% of the country is football fans. How do we get another 50%? Oh, shit. We get women, too. All right, Peter, you're the best. Everyone tune into his show on Thursday. Can't be couldn't be happier for you, man. You're going to crush it. And if you ever need Zach on the show, we'll allow Zach on it. P.F. No, we're not going to. Do it. But Zach will definitely come on. I appreciate it. This is for all the different ESPN conversations you guys had. I'm going to carry that torch and try to get it to the finish line. It hasn't premiered yet, but we're hoping we can get there. Yeah, I hope you last longer than one show. It would actually be really funny if you got canceled. It wouldn't be funny if you got canceled in a month. It would be funny if you got canceled in one day. That's what I'll say. One day is good. One day is funny. One month is not good. One day is very funny. Yeah, you can't have, but Brandon Walker, he'll go on ESPN. Yeah, you can get Brandon anytime you want. I heard. I heard he's on the eyes. 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you love everyone loves their dog dog's part of your family farmer's dog uh treat them well all right so cam you've got football coming up uh you have obviously last year ended an injury you're you're back uh how are you feeling are you are you getting like the juices flowing like i'm back like i'm ready to go because that for a guy like you it feels like that's a long time that you had to spend sitting out not hitting anyone yeah it was too long um you know the the the pain of not being able to play football um i feel like is worse than the pain of playing football when you're sitting on the couch for four to five months not being able to do much and then you know you get to play and you're like oh my god i'm gonna play i'm gonna play i'm gonna play you know you get to the last three four months rehab and you start feeling better and then you put the pads on it's you know it's been it's definitely helped me find myself again and um you know get back out there and feel comfortable yeah how good was that first piece of contact that you got this year yeah it was fun i mean obviously we i played a little bit in the first preseason game but just simply going against these guys in practice um you know coach harris brings a physical mindset so um practicing with pads on every day during training camp almost and you constantly hitting each other and you know it's it's time for it's time to hit somebody new um so i'm excited to see what's going on sunday we had uh we had coach gruden on the show not too long ago and at one point i think he had mike allstott and lorenzo neal on his team and they had rules and and at some point he had to just be like all right mike you're not allowed to hit people anymore we can't have you doing that in practice are there any rules for you in terms of like how much contact you're allowed to dole out in a uh inner squad practice yeah i mean they don't we take care of each other as much as possible but uh um you know there's the guys on the defense this year six foot three and all above so um if they can't take a hit from a 5-10 guy then i don't know what to tell you you know they don't try to hold me back we take care of each other we try not to hurt each other we try not to do too much um there's a couple days where we pot here and there but um for the most part we got a we got a pretty good defense so i don't think they shy away from anything yeah uh so your your career is fascinating you obviously you've been playing for a long time and you've been playing for a long time obviously like famously zero stars coming out of high school uh just love ball so the first year you're coming out of high school you're not you're not getting division one like the big time division one offers and all that stuff was there ever a moment where you're like i maybe maybe i'm just not going to be playing college football you're like no i'm playing somewhere and it's going to be sacramento state to start but was that did that ever enter your head like this is the end of my football career no i never never entered my head um that i was going to be done i think it was the juco route was you know the next step um and then i went to camp at sac state and coach taylor offered me and i knew i was gonna end up there you know i actually got offered by sac state and my dad looked at me and was like you're not going there like we're going juco and i was like uh and then they went like 12 and 2 the year before i got there like maybe we should go there it'd be a good little step you know so i mean if if troy taylor never left us you know sac state i probably would would have still been there all four years um but you know he took his took his talent somewhere else and i'm like i'm gonna go to sac state and i'm gonna go to sac state and i'm gonna and i chose to do the same and you know that was the best move of my career yeah and it's incredible like watching you at arizona state your last year was awesome to watch that you know the the peach bowl was one of the the best performances like to see i know obviously it didn't end well for you guys but you put it all out there um did you during the peach bowl when you're puking are you do you realize like that they're just zooming in on you the whole entire time like you became a cult figure when it's like throwing a touchdown running for a touchdown then getting on the sideline puking everywhere yeah i mean i had no clue um you know obviously i knew i was on the camera because i was kind of going crazy but i didn't know they were going to get catch me you know throwing up on the sidelines um usually when you get to the bench area there's a there's a snippet of you here and there but i didn't think they were going to shoot a 45 second clip of me just puking all over the place yeah um if you if you watch that drive i had like seven carries in a row back to back to back straight up the middle so um usually when that happens you don't feel too good after so you know i had to come out come out and let it out a little bit yeah it was awesome do you throw up during games a lot i know some guys that's like their thing even before a game that's my first time that was my first time i ever threw up before during a game um you know i don't i'm not a big eater before a game like i'll eat what i need to before the game and um get some food in me but i don't i don't ever feel like i need to throw up during a game you know i get really tired but you know workouts and stuff have never really pushed me to the point of throwing up or puking yeah so big cat was talking about sac state and and uh how good you were as a college running back i think jerome bettis uh just kind of anointed you when he saw you run for the first time said this guy's going to be really good um when you get there was there ever any college coach that that that saw you and tried to turn you into a linebacker because i think about that with with derrick henry sometimes like you know guys that have a big physical style a lot of times a defense coordinator see a guy like that and be like i could use that dude on this side of the field try to do that with you yeah i mean you know there's i'm sure coaches think that as i was earlier in my career and caught in college and stuff but you know as i as i i think the defensive coach realized what i did with the ball in my hands and was like you know that's where he's supposed to be um i would say i always said if i was six foot or six one maybe i'd have played linebacker but i'm just too short to play the position um i'm i'm tough enough i hit hard enough but it's just not for me i can't see over those big old dudes trying to read the running back and read the past i just get through it so it's it's not not something i was ever interested in i did play when i was little but um no coaches ever tried to push me too hard uh speaking of being when you were little uh is this story real that you put on your brother's pads and ran into telephone poles i feel like that's a it's an awesome story but do i think it's real no does my mom say 100 happened yeah so then it is that it's real because your mom's i would say i would say it's real because i was probably too little to remember but you know i'll take my mom's word for it if that's what i did that's what i did you know it kind of explains who i am now yeah i would imagine you were a little bit of a handful as a child not you know i mean obviously not in like a like a you know kids aren't bad way but like just a lot of energy a lot of rambunctious going running around kind of shit yeah i wasn't i wasn't too much of a troublemaker but i was a troublemaker that makes sense yeah yeah right i stayed out of trouble but i caused trouble yeah that makes perfect sense yeah yeah like fun trouble not not like bad trouble yeah like other like at school not getting in trouble but at home being like a pain in the ass to your mom like trying to find you and shit yeah push the limits a little bit we were talking uh last year on this show about the uh the story when you got hurt you go to the hospital and uh and big dom paid you a visit what was that like when he walked into the room was it kind of a hey uh like you know we don't we don't talk about what happened out there we're gonna keep our mouths shut good to see you type visitor was it a uh just a friendly stop in yeah i mean we we talked about what happened you know um when it you got to realize in the nfl world in the nfl world everyone has won um and when someone like that from an opposing team especially a rival um wants to show support wants to appreciate you know you for your game and you know do something good for you to help you out um understanding you're stuck in the hospital you don't have good food you're eating jello and you know cafeteria pizza um you know he he thought it was a good thing to you know come bring me some philly's staple, you know, so it was awesome that he came and saw me. You know, I've talked to him a couple times since then, just checking in, make sure he's good. Because, you know, when people do stuff like that, it means something to you. So it was a friendly stop, but, you know, he was a good dude that just wanted to do something good for somebody that, you know, pays a good price for the game. And that's all I got out of it. Yeah, he's a great guy. It didn't shock us. Like, we know him well, and he's just a stand-up guy. That's something he would do. When you got hurt, your reaction, was it just the shock and adrenaline, you didn't feel the pain, or are you just such a badass that you didn't feel the pain? Because I watched it, and I was like, holy fuck, why is he not screaming in horror? Yeah, I mean, my pain tolerance is pretty high. You know, even when I work on my ankle now, until these days, I'll have a little bit of soreness, and, you know, they'll push on some spots, and I won't really say anything about it, even though it hurts. But, you know, my pain tolerance is high, so, you know, when that happened, obviously, the adrenaline's running, you know, I had some, I think, ibuprofen in me at the time, and, you know, it was kind of, like, not painful for the first 15 minutes. Once they put the ankle actually back into place, I think that was, like, the most relieving moment, because, like, even when I was in the 8th grade, and I broke my left forearm, same thing, it was fully snapped, both bones, and as soon as they put it back, they put me in a finger trap, hanging in the hospital, and as soon as it popped back into place, it was, like, the best relief ever. So, once I got that relief of the ankle, I kind of felt a lot better, and that was within 45 seconds of me snapping it, so. And then, once I got in the ambulance, you know, they gave me some drugs and got me going to keep the pain away, but, you know, I'm not a big medicine guy, so I hate taking medicine, so I just deal with the pain, and I guess, over time, I've been able to, you know, deal with it better and better as times went on. Yeah. Alright, I got a question about your coach. We've had Coach Harbaugh on, we're big Harbaugh guys, just both Jim and John, but him coming in, what has it been like so far, and is he, I feel like, you know, these comments about the 15 yard penalty, like, he loves you, but he also wants to keep you in check. Have you maybe told him that you could punt, too? Because he's a special teams guy. Maybe that's how you get on his good side, being like, hey, you know, I did punt a little bit at Arizona State, then you get him on his good side, and then he can deal with you, maybe being like a little rambunctious. Yeah, me and Harbaugh, we're on the same page, you know. I think, you know, I don't, we argue, you know, offense, defense, every single team does it. Guys get in fights, everybody does it. It's all this testosterone built up, and all the guys, you know, constantly hitting each other for three weeks in a row. Something's going to cause some anger and some frustration. Something happened at practice, it was whatever. You know, now we're, me and the guy that got in a fight, Harb, good friends, so we don't worry about that anymore. But, you know, Harb's, he wants me to understand that, you know, if you do something like that outside of the field, outside of the practice, you know, that is a 15-yard penalty. That is a personal flag. That will cause you something, so something that I don't really think about. It's kind of in the past, and you know, I think he's kind of on the same page with me, so. Yeah, have you practiced punting since college? Yeah, I mean, I kicked a couple punts the other day, but I think I'm retiring from that. That would be, I would love to see that make a comeback, whether it's a quarterback doing the pooch kick or a running back doing it. That could be such a weapon. I would love to see that this year. Oh, what's up? How we doing? Oh, who's that? Malik. Oh, what's up? What's up, Malik? He felt like he had to come in here and headbutt me. Is that just like people, is that your handshake? That you have with, like, people on the team? Yeah, I guess. It's just normal. Is it to the point where, like, people love you, so they try to headbutt you? Or you want to go around headbutting everybody? I think he was just being annoying right there. I don't think there was a headbutt correlation. I think he just wanted to come in here and bother me. Do you have a certain, like, group of people on the team where it's like, alright, I know they don't like me headbutting, and then there's some guys you're like, I know I can go to them for a headbutt at any time? Yeah, I mean, without my helmet on, headbutts kind of stay away. Yeah. You know, every time we get in the huddle, I think our, if you watch before the game, you know, before the snap, before the first play, you'll see everybody give a little headbutt to each other. It's just something like we give, you know, kind of lock in, get ready to go and get ready for battle. Yeah. Are you staying by your prediction for this year? 2,000 yards. That's the goal. I mean, it's a hard goal, but, you know, if you put something out in reach that you can never, that you can possibly not reach or possibly can reach, there's always a chance. So, I mean, I'm going to continue to push, you know. We got a new sign. We got Najee back, so we got Najee over here, so you know, things are going to get a little different. We're going to, you know, really run the ball this year, so I'm excited for it. Yeah. How crazy was that Thursday night game against the Eagles last year? I loved watching it. That was just, that was pure football. Yeah, I mean, it was awesome. You know, that was my real first game of, like, feeling like myself in the league, you know, getting up to speed with the game and feeling things out, and, you know, I think people don't realize I only played seven games last year, so I wasn't really, you know, fully in the system and kind of comfortable yet, so now that I'm here and I'm ready to go, I think it's going to be a big year for me. Yeah. I do love your self-awareness, by the way, where you're like, yeah, I've done some dumb things. Like, I can be, you know, a lot, but I just love football. That is what makes it, I think if you didn't have that, people would be like, oh, what is he talking about? But it's like, you just love football. You love hitting people, and your style is, I know that Harbaugh said you're like an infectious disease, which is kind of, I don't know, like it depends on what type of infectious disease. There's some good ones. Yeah, there's some ones that are really fast, but it is infectious like your love for football and how you play the game, watching it, it makes you just pumped up to watch more football. Yeah, I mean, I love the game, you know. We had a player, you know, the guy CJ that we traded for from Baltimore, he came in yesterday and said, you know, it's legal to hit people, and I kind of liked that, and I laughed, and I was like, yeah, you're right. Like, we get to physically beat up on people for a lot of money and for fun. Yeah. So, it's, you know, it's a game that, you know, you get to take out your anger, you relieve your stresses on the field, and once you get off the field, you know, it's kind of just take a deep breath and relax. Yeah. They say that everybody gets got sometimes. When was the last time you got got on the field? There's been a couple times in practice. I wouldn't say that were bad, but, you know, on the field, I mean, I feel like I got a pretty good sixth sense of who's around me. I try to take light in the blow as much as possible, because, you know, some of these dudes hit pretty hard, how big they are, so I try to, you know, understand where they're coming from and how to fall and stuff like that, so I don't really feel it too much, but shoot, I don't even know last year where the big hit, I guess. I guess against Denver when I hit the linebacker, you know, he got real low, got the best of me. I didn't expect him to get that low and kind of blew me up and to the quarterback's lap and we threw a pick on that play, so it kind of was a costly mistake for me, you know, but other than that, I haven't really felt too much yet. Yeah, I do a podcast with Arian Foster, and he always talks about how he had to practice falling when he was in the NFL, like learning how to fall correctly, not just take a hit, but how you actually take your body to the ground as much as possible was the reason that he stayed healthy for a while. Do you practice falling? I don't practice falling, but, you know, over the years, I mean, I've been playing football for 15 plus years, so over the years, I feel like I just have a good knack of falling the right way, you know, and one time I did fall the way I didn't want to fall. I tore my AC joint, so there's been times where, you know, you get a little scared, but, you know, for the most part, I feel like I fall the way you're supposed to when you get tackled from a certain direction or, you know, you get hit a certain way, so. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so back to Farmer's Dog real quick. So, you're going to be in a commercial, right? That's pretty cool. Yeah. How many commercials have you been in? Is that your first commercial? Yeah, I mean, I've been in a lot of commercials. I don't know if you guys have seen the Paramount one. That's right. Yes. Paramount one and Farmer's Dog. I did a State Farm commercial that's going to drop soon during the season. That'll be a funny one. You guys will enjoy it a lot. And then, you know, I've done a lot of little stuff here and there, so got a couple more coming up this weekend when it's off season, but, or when it's, we got the weekend off, but, you know, other than that, it's time to roll. Time to lock in. Yeah, time to be ready to go. A couple of last questions before we kick it to Zach, who will finish this off. The clip of you when you looked, when you checked on Jackson Dart in the blue tent, you look like a guy who's like looking for some snacks in the snack closet. Would, uh, did you get yelled at for that, for, for, for taking a peek? Because it was very funny to watch. You're just checking on your boy. I got yelled at by the NFL. I don't think anybody else cared about it. You know, I was, I was genuinely going in there to make sure that, you know, he was okay. Yeah. You know, it sucks to see your friend. I mean, it was my best friend at the time still is, but, you know, I came in with him, got to build a good connection with him, and when you hear that something went wrong with his head, you know, you, you're interested in what's wrong, you know, you wanna make sure he's okay. So popping in there, You know, nobody really gave me crap about it, but they let me know, you know, you shouldn't be over here after the fact. And then, you know, we had the thing with the NFL, but that's all in the past, so hopefully we can keep him out of that thing. Dumb rule. I think everyone should have, like, a buddy system on an NFL sideline. Like, hey, if your guy goes in the blue tent, you get to, like, if Jackson Dark goes in, you're the designated buddy where you get to go check on him because everyone's probably wondering how he's doing, so you get to go check on him and let everyone else know. Yeah, that would be dope. Yeah, it might be scary in there. You go in there all alone. You need a friend. Yeah, you need a friend to hang out with. Like an emotional support running back by your side to help you out. Be nice. That's it. Do you ever think that he watches you run, and he's like, damn, that's cool as shit, and then he tries to run like you sometimes? Maybe. I'm not too sure. I think, you know, we always talk about it, and if we were in a dogfight, you know, a cage fight, who would win, you know? And he thinks he would bring me down to the death, and he would have no chance. No chance he would beat you. But Jackson's a killer, man. Jackson's a dog. You know, he has no doubt that he's going to come out on top every time, whether it's hitting somebody, fighting somebody, you know, throwing competition, tackling competition, he's still going to think he's the best. So that's why he's such a good player. You know, he has good confidence, and he trusts in his abilities. I love the confidence. Before the record, you would murder him. Yeah. It would not be close in a cage fight. Not even close. Let's put that out there. Yeah. So he knows. What feels better on a football field, lowering your shoulder through someone's chest or the perfectly timed stiff arm? I think perfectly timed stiff arm, sending somebody out the club is, like, the best feeling because you don't get it often. Yeah. And, you know, usually when you get one of those, it's a one-on-one situation. And you have a lot more position to go to. So a lot of better position to be in after the fact. So definitely a stiff arm. Yeah. All right. Well, I got one last question. Zach is going to ask you a question. Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback dot com. Promo code TAKE. Everyone go check out Farmer's Dog. We love it. We stand by it. Cam stands by it. Stella's been there. Been eating it for many years. Basically since Farmer's Dog was created. But Rowback question. Zach, go ahead. How are you doing, man? I did have a quick question for you. With you and Jameis in the same locker room, it seems like an unreal amount of energy. And I was wondering if you can give us kind of a sneak peek into or like a peek behind the curtain on the new handshake. What kind of went into building that with Jameis? Yeah, you know, I'm a dog person, you know, and from the camera angle, it looked bad. But all Jameis was doing, he was holding his dog on a leash, trying to make sure that he wasn't letting you free. So we're going to get that fixed. We're going to make sure it looks okay. And it looks right for the people. But there's no change in between the two of us. We're going to continue to be us. Yeah, I loved it. I don't know what people had a problem with. It was one of the greatest intros I've ever seen. I don't think you have to change it too much. You just got to change the angle a little bit. That's it. The camera guy was in the wrong spot. Yeah. You got it when you start. In the pregame, you got to get the camera guy perfectly placed. Be like, hey, you got to stand on the side here. I originally had no idea he was there. So if I'd have known that, I probably kind of would have backed up a little bit. Zach, do you have a follow-up? Yeah, quick follow-up question. When you're not on the field, sometimes we do see you on the stream. And I was just wondering if there's any games you're running right now you felt good about. Yeah, I mean, I've been playing. You know, the new 2K just came out like three days ago, four days ago, whatever it was. I've been grinding that. I've made a couple builds already. You know, a lot of people, a lot of NFL guys, NBA, MLB, you know, they get the Ronnie gives them that free character. That's a 99 kind of, that's not who I am. I like to grind my accounts. I like to, you know, go from the bottom to the top, you know, work my way up. So that's a game that I continue to grind. And then Apex Legends is, I feel like the best game I ever made. It's the best battle royale that, you know, has been out there for a long time. And, you know, they haven't done much to the game to change it. And it's been good ever since. So it's been awesome. Now, 2K, are you, are you running through my career challenges? Are you in the park? I do a little bit of both. I'll do some challenges here if I'm by myself. And then when the boys are on, I'll hop in the wreck of the park and grind out with them. But now everybody's not very good right now. So it's kind of perfect time to just get in there and have a little bit of fun. Gotta get the badges up. It's preseason for everyone. Now it's regular season. All right. Well, Cam, best of luck this season, man. It's awesome watching you play football. We're excited to see you back out there. Oh, last thing. Would you give a message to anyone who's drafting you this week in fantasy football? Cause it is a big fantasy football draft week. So maybe pitch yourself on being drafted. Yeah. I mean, draft me or don't draft me. It doesn't, it doesn't matter to me, but I played seven games and I was 20 at 20 point average. So that's, I'll leave it at that. Yeah, that's true. And also good. That's good perspective being like draft me or don't draft me. I don't really care. You're, you're right on that. That's it. Who cares? I'll go out there and give it my all. So yeah, perfectly said. All right. Well, thanks so much, Cam. 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YouTube TV required terms and embargoes apply device and content restrictions apply to multi-view commercial use excluded. No refunds. Henry partner take back-to-back shows. Remember, do you remember when we like first started and we're like, should we do people like, Oh, let's go every day, every day of the week. That would have killed us. We just recorded like, 10 hours ago. Yeah. There's, there's simply not enough. No, actually no. During, during like a major season. Yeah. Like during playoff baseball, even I would say like, but in the dog days of playoffs or in the dog days of baseball season, before we get to NFL season, there's not a, you can't do a show every day. You start making shit up. Yeah. You can't have like Max and Hank having a stare, stare down in the middle of the podcast. Nobody would listen to that. Yeah. Baker Mayfield. We're either, we'll be either a 49 or a Viking come, trade deadline and we'll carry either team to NFC championship game. Baker on the Vikings would be, that'd be fun. Baker on the Niners. Yeah. Can't picture it. Mac Jones is there though. I'd see more likely Vikings. Nine. What? Nine. Nine. You're still talking about nine. Yeah. All right, buddy. I got news for you. Nine is nine's not going to come in. If Kyler gets her, they're going to go to Carson. Carson Wentz or Brosner. I see that. JJ. Watt tweeted a picture of him doing research and it was like, he had the depth charts and Carson Wentz was listed as two. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I think nine needs to be traded. Yes. A hundred percent. Yeah. I actually don't, I'm not going to give up on JJ McCarthy. I am giving up on JJ McCarthy as a Viking. Got to be traded. I like that take though. We'd never get those like trades of starting quarterbacks mid season. You always hear, Oh, this guy is rumored to be trade for this guy. And there's, there's no trades in the NFL. They should make it a rule in the NFL that you have to do like one trade every two years in on trade deadline day. So fellas, I think if the Bengals fail to make the playoffs this year, Joe Burrow gets traded. Wait for it to the Rams. Yeah. Stafford retires. Rams got trade. Ty Simpson, first round pick and a couple more, two, three picks. McVay gets himself another guy and Rams continue to be immortal. Yeah. I mean that. I hate how right that is. I could see it for sure. I would hate it. That is we breaking, breaking, breaking moves. Oh no. That's perfect. ESPN sources, two-time pro bowl selection, uh, Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers reach agreement today on a three-year contract. Essentially, it'll prevent the quarterback from becoming a free agent after this season. Fuck. Yeah, but he still could be traded. He could, but that's never, I'm happy for big. Yeah. He deserved it. How much is it for him? Not out yet. It looks like good for him, man. Really good for him. But yeah, I could, I could definitely see, I can see Joe Burrow going to Los Angeles. Rams just win everything. I'd be happy for Joe, but that would suck. I don't want, yeah, we don't need that. Hey guys, my craziest take for the 2026 season is the fall of the Eagles. Oh, finally realized that. I realize halfway through the season, Jalen Hurts isn't good enough to get them back to the Super Bowl. to either tank slash trade for a top pick in next year's draft to get one of the top QBs, Manning Moore, Mensah, Carr. That'd be interesting. That would have been a real shame if they thought that he couldn't get back to the Super Bowl after the first time he went to the Super Bowl. Right. It would be. But we're living in the present now, saying, like, can he get back? That would be for a third time. Yeah, correct. Jalen Hurts having a bad year this year would be very funny for the podcast. Could he get back again? Anyone can get back, but can he get back again? What if the Eagles stay good, but Jalen Hurts is just so bad they just wouldn't? I mean, they did that last year. Now, yeah, I think maybe the funniest premise now would be what if A.J. Brown was MVP? Patriots Super Bowl. I think it's got to go one way or the other, though. It's got to be either A.J. Brown MVP or Jalen Hurts MVP because he got rid of A.J. Brown. Yeah. That would be fun. What if they're both good? I think I would make that trade for A.J. Brown to get MVP. Someone's got to win. Patriots, another dominant season. If it meant that he was MVP on the Patriots and Eagles fans were sad about that. I think I would make that trade. Same. A.J. Brown's going to have, like, 900 yards tomorrow. That'd be a record. He's going to have a very good year. All right, last one. This isn't about NFL, but has still been on my mind for about 10 years. 10 years? On an extra point or field goal attempt, how come the holder has a knee down and is not considered down? In NFL, I get it because they have to be down by contact, but in college, the rules are different. For example, on a punt, if the punter caught the ball on a knee, the ball would be down right there from a long snap. But if the holder has a knee down, how is he not down as well? Good point. I think it's just written into the rule. Yeah, I think it's the only case where a knee down does not count. I got to say, dude, like, I'm not casting judgment. I feel like 10 years is a long time to not just Google something that's been bothering you. Can we Google it? Why is the holder not down in college football? This sounds like somebody that lost a major game on a field goal, and this is like the last straw of cope that he can have. Like, why that field goal shouldn't have counted. In college football, field goal or extra point holder is not ruled down with a knee on the ground because of a specific exception in the rule book. Finally, we figured it out. Thank God. This poor guy. He's been tormented by NCAA rule 413B. The ball remains alive when an offensive player is in position to kick a ball, Held for a place kick by a teammate at the snap. This exception explicitly allows a holder to keep a knee on the ground to catch, hold, and place the ball. Yeah. I feel like this guy is maybe an Ohio State fan, and he's still pissed off about that field goal by Georgia. Yeah. As the clock struck midnight, he's like, that should have been a sack because his knee was down, and this has just been what he's thinking about. I'm sorry, man. Sorry that it has haunted you for this long. Yeah. It gets better. Yeah. Yeah, you listen to this show, and you realize you can move on. I imagine this guy has just a list of things that he's been putting off until he figures this out. I'm glad we could help, though. The rest of your life has now begun. You do get smarter. Yeah. All right. Good show, boys. We'll see everyone on Friday for our week one preview and a recap of Wednesday and Thursday night football. Tune in to the stream Wednesday night. Numbers 3. 10. 48. 5. 55. 5, 5, 5, 5. 55. 85. 88. 88. Oh, Steve's back. Can't wait to see him. 88. 5, 5, 5. 5, 5, 5, 5. 5, 5, 5. 5, 5, 5, 5. Stop saying that. 5, 5, 5, 5. 5, 5, 5, 5. Hurry up, Shane. Stop saying that. 15. 69. 69. 32. 32. Bolt up, Shane. Bolt up, Shane. A lot of positive talk about bolts today. Except for the eggs. What's up? 5, 5. 5, 5. 5, 5. 55. 69 for Colton. How about a 69 for Colton? 36. 36. One more. One more. 69 for Colton. Still PFT memes in Colton. He never got that. Colton for 69. Can we get a 69 for Colton? Let me see a 69. 69. 5. 6. 5. That's Max's team, isn't it? Oh. Stop saying no. 29. You don't like that? Yeah, stop saying no every time. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Happy birthday to our good friend, Keith Yandel. Oh. Yes. Yeah. Happy birthday to John Kuhn, our other good friend. Happy birthday to Dick LeBeau. Happy birthday to Colonel Sanders. And happy birthday to Adam Sandler. And happy birthday to part of my balls, David Echelberger. Shout out part of my balls. That guy rocks. Happy birthday to Randy Johnson. Randy Johnson and Dick LeBeau. Names kind of mean the same thing. Love you guys. We have a countdown for Yandel's birthday. Breaking Moves. Liv has filed for bankruptcy. Oh, no. Love you guys. Emergency. Emergency. Hank. No, we're done. No, I need to know. Say goodbye. Max, shut up. I need a comment. Comment, please. I don't know. I'm not a finance guy. Wolf Golf has formally filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. John. Dodgers filed for bankruptcy, too. And they're doing fine. Point by Hank. Listed as the top two unsecured creditors. I don't understand bankruptcy. I think successful companies do this all the time. It's smart. Yeah. It's actually a good thing that they're out of money. Isn't Donald Trump a big bankruptcy guy? Huge. And look at him. He loves golf. He's the president. Yeah. This doesn't mean you can't love golf anymore. America is like $40 trillion in debt. That's a great point. Hank is cooking right now. All right. So, Liv, never been stronger. We're fine. Yeah. It's fine. Every company does this. Yeah. Okay. It's just a setback for a major comeback. How many times did the PGA Tour do this? I don't know. Probably a lot. Well, they had to sign with the Saudis to probably not do it. What? The PGA Tour? Yeah. Liv did that. So did the PGA. But Liv did that. And then declared bankruptcy. Because the Saudis backed out. I don't fucking know, dude. All right. Holy shit. The Broncos have beer vending machines. Love you guys. We're going to get right back to the show. It's Fran from Chicks in the Office. The weather is getting cooler and Abercrombie's fall drop has everything I need for the season. The best-selling A&F Sloan tailored pant is a closet staple for me. I'm always wearing it to work events, happy hour, anytime I want to be a bit more dressed up. 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