Pete Crow Armstrong, Joe Buck, Pardon My Book Is Out + Mt Rushmore Of Things Guys Keep For Too Long

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Let's go to youtube.com/NFLST to get NFL Sunday ticket for eight payments of $30 a month for new users. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by draft kings. The crown is yours today is Wednesday, August 19th, and boys, we did it. Our book is out. We've done it. We've set it. We've set that we've set this book and some got awful writing out into the universe. I've given this. I think I've said this before in the show, but if you please buy a book, if you buy a book, also maybe when you're on Amazon buying the book, buy a highlighter and maybe some sticky notes because what we did was an interactive book that you can also edit along with us. We care more about telling than we do about spelling. And I think the point gets across. If you read Zack's chapter, we know. Yeah, listen, the answer to your complaint is we know there's some misspellings in there. Who cares? But guess what, that's the English language. If you talk to any historian, it evolves. We didn't always spell words away. They're spelled right now. It's efficiency. It's efficient and Zack is nothing but efficient. It was a labor love. I'm glad that the books out. I'm glad that we're done writing it, but I did get a chance to read through parts of it just to check up on some things that I hadn't had the opportunity to look at before. First of all, big shout out to Hank for the picture selection. Oh, yeah. Great job. We put pictures in there. Great job on the pictures. We also broke it up just so everyone knows into quarters because we thought people would understand that. So there's four quarters in the entire book. For all you soccer fans out there, you need stuff broken up into quarters. We did that for you. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah, like labor love. It was cool reading every chapter written by the guest that wrote in. And there's a lot of them. I'm gonna rip them real quick. J.J. What? Blake Portals, Blake Griffin, Ryan Rusill, Chris Long, Kyle Long, Ryan Whitney, SVP Florio, Josh Allen, Adam Schefter, Jerry O'Connell, Jim Harbock, Chris Burman, Stu Feiner, Mark Titus, Tim Woods, Mr. Portanoid Cocho, Rico Bosco, Jake Marsh, Billy Football, and then all of us. Just looking, we should have had death right in the chapter. Yeah. We should be going back to death and get that. I forgot we had a half time speech from Cocho. Yeah. It's I think it's a fun book. I think you guys will like it a lot. So it is truly. It's truly humbling to see people that are like taking pictures of the book with their dogs like that. It's a book. We made a book for people who don't like to read. That's really truly it. It's split into quarters. There's chapters that are two pages in length. So yeah, please buy it if you can. We love doing it going down memory lane 10 years. We promise we won't write another book till at least 20 years. And probably I'm actually going to say 25 years. I might retire from writing books. I think I'm going to retire from writing books. You can always come back if you want to. Yeah. Yeah. I think I got to retire from this. But it was very fun. We get into it with Joe Buck who wrote the forward for the book. But everyone who's bought it, who's already bought it. Thank you so much. Everyone who hasn't bought it. What the hell are you doing by the book, please? And once everyone buys the book literally every single person buys the book in America, we will stop talking about the book. So that's our guarantee. Yeah, tell a friend. Yeah. I had a moment where I went to Target this morning and I was looking to see I want to see the book in person. You know, like that's got to be a cool moment. I still haven't had it yet where I walk into a store and I see see my book. I went to Target and it was sold out. Oh, and there were lots of Kelsey brothers books that were still available for purchase. Interesting. I thought that was an interesting moment and special shout out by the way to to Matt our ghost writer who helped very, very much with this book. He was able to talk to the guests and and help them write the chapters and he organized the book. He was a very integral part. We wouldn't be able to write the book and also Dom who basically Dom led us around for the last three months being like, you have to do this now. We're like, no, we don't want to do it now. No, no, you have to do this now. When that didn't work, he like broke it up into colors. Yeah, it's like, oh, if you see red, that means you have to do that now. Oh, at one point, he was like, you have to give me five pages tomorrow. And I was like, I can. He's like, okay, well, if we're talking real here, like I need three and like you just keep bringing it down. Look at that sold out. Okay. Well, let's talk some sports because we've got a great show and we're going to do some FAQs on the book at the end of the show. We need to turn injuries off in training camp. It's getting to be a problem. The chargers had how many injuries do the chargers have? They had three injuries within an hour. It was a joint practice against the 49ers. And it was, uh, unfortunately, Tyler Beattish, their center. That's not good. He went down. And now I don't know if this is true or not. I read, I did read this online that the chargers have now had gone three years where a very important offensive lineman has been injured because they're left guard through somebody into that person's legs during a practice. That tracks. Like, is it the same guard every time? I don't know. He just keeps, he just keeps, he needs to learn to throw people the other way. Yeah. That tracks. But yeah, we had that, uh, common unguys out for a few weeks. He got tackled in, uh, no pads, which was not great. Breast hall, how's he doing memes? I saw it's always bad when you ever, you have memes just, uh, tweeting the like person jumping out of a building and all those memes. You're like, uh, oh, I don't know what happened, but something happened. Well, rich to me and he's a piece of shit. Okay. He tweeted it and it made it seem like he was going to be out for the season. What do you say? Max, if you scroll down, what do you say? What do you say? He's girl too far. He's girl too far. He was just basically like, he went down without being touched. Okay. And it made it seem like it was either an Achilles or a knee. All right. So did he actually, like, did he say it's bad or did he just report? Like, he went down without, is that true? Breast hall goes down untouched while running after a catch. That was it. He's a piece of shit. Yeah. Okay. That was like first thing in the morning. It just made it ever seem bad. That's a shit that that should be illegal when chef retreated that the Kobe Bryant was out for eight to ten weeks. He's like, you should now have to go to jail for eight to ten weeks. You can't get that wrong. You cannot get that wrong. But yeah, let's turn them off. I, this is a point of the season. We're so, so close to football. Just get all the guys to football season. You don't want to hear anything about your team right now. No, nothing. No, absolutely. Like, it doesn't matter what it is. Yeah. Any news right now? Bad news. It scares you. There's never any good news that come. I guess the only good news is when a beat reporter is like, hey, you know that wide receiver that's probably going to be cut. He was absolutely on fire today. I caught everything. And then you're like, oh, shit. We might have like a new number two receiver. Yeah. Jordan Tyson also for the Saints got hurt. It sucks. It all sucks. So let's just turn injuries off. McCaffrey's still not there. Titan, but probably tightening up with Tennessee Titan. No, he's tightening. Possibly a tight keeps tightening. He's tight. Is it possible to be too tight? Yeah, every day of my life. Yeah. I can't touch my toes. I don't know if it is possible to be too tight. I think I think we're walking examples of two tight guys. I'm always I'm probably the tightest person here, you might be, and I'm not too far behind you, but shout out Jersey Jerry for his doctor. Yeah, if you need a doctor, talk to Jerry He's definitely who you want. He's my number one medical guy. Yeah, absolutely Okay, so that that happened we also had The Lakers I can someone explain to me what's going on with the bus family. I think I understand. Okay, give it to me It's like if there were a show on like one of the prestige channels. It's about a super super like rich Fam, do you know what I'm getting at here? Yeah, yeah, yeah Winning the wire. They're the show about the Lakers. No, it's actually a combination of winning time and Succession. Mm-hmm. So yeah, the team are the the family thought that they could sell the team Jeannie bus says I know you can't sell the team because only my signature matters. Okay, so is that true? Don't know if that's true. Has there ever been a clearer? I'm the favorite child moment than that. Yeah being like Oh all five of my siblings want to sell the team, but daddy loved me the most and I have the golden signature What a flex that should that feels like to be like hey, I know we joked about it at Thanksgiving and Christmas, but no, no I'm daddy's girl. Yeah, so I guess they Legally they might not allow it to be sold That'd be crazy. They have the minority stink though. The the the Mark Mark Walters guy who I feel like that's that we're just getting started with that Because did you guys see that show? Hey has an opt out in his contract if he ever sells the team? I did see that in fact I didn't know about it until I saw some reporting that he's not expected to exercise the opt out Yeah, but it did it made me think for a second like went that be sweet if he did. Yeah, it feels like Conspiracy theory here we go. Ready fingers up It feels like this thing is a very interesting timing when we're about to hit a maybe labor stoppage in MLB and everyone's like the Dodgers are rooting baseball and oh, whoops The guy who owns the Dodgers spending all the money now has to sell the Dodgers and you can't spend all the money anymore. Do we just fix baseball? So the time for Lakers governor G bus says the trust vote to sell is void Arguing legal standing that requires her to be controlling owner on a lifetime basis Her lawyers demanding that the representatives of the trust make it clear publicly that Genie's the controlling owner of the Lakers And that they take no action on this vote to sell the 17.8% stake. That's per Sam amic So I yeah, 17.8 I don't know how much that makes a difference. Yeah, but I guess she gets to stick around and be the Be genie bus she gets to continue to be genie Yeah, cuz otherwise if she doesn't own the Lakers, she's no longer Genie bus. What are you yet? Not Genie bus? You're not Genie bus. You're a former bus. Yeah You're you're retired bus. You're you're like hosting podcasts now instead of driving on the road. Could you imagine that? That's actually sick idea. We should do that. We should do that. You think Genie bus can get a podcast. Yeah, why not right? Why not sure? Yeah, and then the Clippers investigation. I don't understand as well. Are they cleared or not cleared? I don't know. I think clear clear. I think clear. I think clear. Okay. Clear turns out that the NBA has investigated itself and found no wrong doing so They don't want to ruffling feathers with the world's what six richest man. Yeah I and also if they're a competent organization when it came to bribing players They would do it in a way that Steve Balmer actually did not know. Yeah about it Like that's kind of an unwritten rule. It's like don't bring the big man into it. I Love Steve Balmer. He just he does the rich guy thing correctly in terms of like he hasn't changed He's still a nerd that's probably sweating through his blue collar shirts, right? Like he's not he's not Bezos trying to get jacked and get on some gear. He's not Zuckerberg trying to choke some dudes out He's not Bill Gates flying to some unnamed islands for parties. He's just Balmer who's like, hey, I want to win so bad I might create a fake tree or a company and and do it that way now if you're saying he hasn't changed I would also argue that maybe Bill Gates like his whole thing was I get to go spend a weekend with my ex-girlfriend Yeah, I don't think that was what got him in trouble though probably the Epstein stuff. Yeah I was so at some point he was dating high school chicks and he was like, I you know what all your people have changed Yeah, not me. Yeah, that's sort of the same old Bill. Yeah. I'm cool Bill hanging out. What's up kids? So yeah, I don't know. I think that the Laker or the Clippers will not be punished. I think the Lakers Sounds like Jeannie bus has has a legal case. Mm-hmm. And if she doesn't move on to the podcast bus bus bus and She was the boss. Yeah bossen with the bus boss it with the boss would be a good name like that a lot I liked that a lot. I think that now this means that the Raptors are going to get Kauai Leonard Yeah, which makes them very good. It'll be funny if the NBA just blamed it all on Kauai Like Kauai he wouldn't even react he did everything and turns out the Clippers did nothing. Yeah, they're completely innocent He would just do his weird robot laugh. Kauai started a fake treat Do we have anything about LeBron? I don't think I don't think he's been in the news. I Did look okay earlier today. You got it. You got a look. You got to look every day. You got to look every day Wait, let me let me double what what big LeBron story is gonna break when max. You're almost at a hole in one Yeah, he did almost at a hole in one that is I know him as a golf creator now. Not a basketball player Mm-hmm so talented so many different talents so many different talents So that story about the about the cell phone usage thing. Yeah The we we have p-crow Armstrong in studio, but I was at the cup's game on Monday night. That was Awesome. He's the fucking best. He had a home run to start the game first pitch And then hit a home run to end the game last pitch It was a playoff atmosphere. There was fighting in the bleachers That one dude ate like 75 punches. Mm-hmm. Just I don't I don't know. I think he kind of started He he made he made the first kick then he just sat down in the bleachers and just ate punches That was a bad fight bad fight I think I ran out of gas because he he went up and down steps a couple times. Yeah before the fight started And that's like when what's his name wilder when he made that huge walk into the ring Yeah, and was was gas because he was wearing those big-ass robes This big dude he went up and down those steps like three times. Yeah by the time hand started flying He was like I just did a stairmaster workout. I just yeah, I'm gonna have a seat for a while Yeah, but PCA is I mean he's reached that level where it's like when you get to that next level of I fully expect him to do something magical You know, I mean where it's like not even a question of oh well he come through with something big here No, he's gonna do it. Mm-hmm. And it's gonna be sick when he does it and uh he was I mean he had a two home runs Single in a double. I know show. Hey hit two home runs, but he was doing it in Colorado. Mm-hmm. You could fucking do that That's a pop line anybody kid. That's a fucking pop. I could hit a home run in Colorado I could probably dunk in Colorado. Did you guys see Kyle Tucker that guy is in the depths of hell right now He dropped another easy fly ball is I don't know what you do if you're Kyle Tucker like do you Max what do you I mean like do you sit him forever? You got to sit him for like a week or something. He's just got the yips right now So far far in his own head. I I don't hate the idea of sending him down to the miners for like a week Like remind yourself that you're good, but not even triple a single a let him just mash. Yeah, send a little league Send a Williams port and it's not a bad idea that actually would be really funny if like that was the next he would kill The next wave of analytics is like when a guy gets yips they have they have a standing Travel baseball team 12-year-old travel baseball team at their spring training facility They're like all right, dude. Just go down just fucking hit some mammoth home runs off these kids Maybe strike a couple of them out make a couple of them cry then come back and and and be yourself That's why the nats offense is so good this year because their pitching staff is pretty much like a little league team Yeah, so like in spring training. They just all got really confident. Yeah, like yeah, we can all hit Kyle Tucker's in hell they also are up 10-1 in this game and meant absolutely nothing is yeah, no of course But baseball yips are the worst yips, right? I mean, yes golf. Yes golf is pretty bad baseball golfers are like kind of one in the same though of like it's just you And and there's nothing you can do head. Yeah, but tennis tennis serving Baseball get yips maybe worse just because you have the teammates to be like. Yeah, I think we're letting other people down I mean all of them are probably not saying a word, but you know they want to say something and you know that they're like hey, dude Are you okay free-throwy yips? I would say kicker yips kicker yips are bad Kicker yips are very similar to baseball you got the whole team and everybody could kick your ass But but kicker yet the only saving grace for kicker yips is you can just get cut. They usually fire you A kicker usually doesn't get to recover from like it's fatal. Yeah, like Kyle Tucker yips you're done Kyle Tucker side to 240 million dollar contract. You can't just be like oh dude, you're cut. What about this for a dumb idea? What about moving him to catcher just to just so that he thinks god when he gets moved back out to the right field just one inning Yeah, he's like I'm so glad I don't have to do that anymore. I don't hate it. It's really just his hitting is so bad that That every his mentors are done with everything in the game. Yeah He can't hit where shit. No, he sucks. I mean if the Dodgers win the World Series with it's like On expert mode that is the one thing. It's it's actually very similar to kicker as well like he if he hits a big home run in a playoff game Everything is forgiven if the kicker has the yips and then hits a big kick in a playoff game It's like oh shit. We always love them. Yeah, but man he is in Straight uphill also just an update and it's not knock on them, but Joshua Bayes has still not got me hit off of anyone. Not named Matty Boyd he should have retired. - That's interesting. - Oh, for 16. - Six kids, he should have retired. - Yeah. Like, go out on top, dude. Just be the bet. Be the guy that everyone's like, imagine if he had played his whole career, he would have had a million home runs. - Did you hear C.J. Abrams moving to second base? - No, I did not. - My theory on that is they couldn't find anybody that wanted trade for him, because he's clearly a bad defensive shortstop. And so, but he would be maybe not as bad second base. Still one of the best hitters in baseball, right? I think they're gonna ship him off. - Don't you have a very good defensive shortstop as a prospect that you're trying to make before? - We've got two. - So I think that would probably-- - We don't have two minutes. - Oh, probably, yeah. - That would probably make more sense. - But I think-- - No, probably not. - I think both can be very true at the same time. - Oh shit. - I think the market on him was not what they expected it to be. - A.J. Store commits a UNOV. I'm just reading the screen. - That's his fifth team. - In five years? (laughs) - Phil and Noah's quarterback out of fucked. - Oh, no. - Yeah. - All right, let's do Mount Rushmore. (laughs) - We're doing it, we're doing it. Dashel's second base in Villa Nova quarterback in A.J. Store. - We've run out. - We've run out. - I was looking at Dillon Reol of the other day. - Yeah. - How much he's bounced around. So he's at Oregon now. - Yeah. - Obviously in college, he committed to Georgia. He might have committed to Ohio State too. - I don't count that as much as bounced around if you didn't go there. - Right, right. - So he, obviously he has been to Nebraska. He went now to Oregon. When he was in high school, he was, I think, like four schools and four years kind of guy. - That's, A.J. Store, I'm pretty sure is on like eight schools in nine years. - This is like the most meathead take that I might have. And it's a little bit draft day birthday party thing. But at some point, if you're a quarterback, you should not want to transfer schools again, just based on the fact that you've got boys. - Yeah. - Like that you have friends that you don't want to leave. - 100%. - And you don't want to make new friends somewhere else. The fact that he's moved schools so many times, there is something that's like, why doesn't he have friends? - I think the third school is a red flag. - Yeah. - So he's got one more. - No, no, he doesn't have one more. - Yeah. - The third school is a red flag. - Imagine your boys from college. - Yeah. - Imagine if you're just one year, you were like, hey, you know what, I'm gonna, I need a new change of pace. Let me go somewhere else. Now imagine doing that three times. - Yeah. - It's because you don't have boys. - Also, it's like the, what is the move you're making? Is it a lateral move? Like a lateral move is also kind of a red flag. But if it's like a, if you're moving up, if you're going from Mac to Big 10, or if you're going from, you know, Mountain West, so it's not Mountain West anymore, up to SEC, that's a different move. So yeah, I agree with that take. - That's a good meatball take. - That it actually has. - Meatball and merit. - If it can happen once to anybody. - Yeah. - Maybe twice. But at some point, if you've already done it twice, you should be like, I don't want to, I don't want to have to make new friends again. - Yeah, who are your boys? Okay, let's do Mount Rushmore, then we got hot sea cool throne. We'll talk some more sports before we do that. Draft King, something big is coming on. September 2nd Draft King's game day arrives with massive deals, exclusive offers and all day celebration built for sports fans. The countdown has begun. All roads lead to game day. The Draft King sports app is now live in all 50 states. That means from Texas to California to Florida, every fan is on the excitement. 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King size. The king size big cup. Look at that. It's like winning a title. When you open up the Reese's big cup, you basically are winning a title. So Reese's, the official candy partner, barsel sports, go get Reese's, wherever you shop. Okay, Mount Rushmore. Max, memes and I have officially clinched. We cannot statistically get last place. So we were talking about it. And I think it gets into a funky territory where if you have a team that has no urgency, no reason to submit good picks, can skew how the rest of the Mount Rushmore season goes. What do we have like 10 left? I think, no, we have eight left. Eight left. Yeah. Eight left. So with eight left, we don't want to be the team that fucks everything up. And it's like, hey, if we submit a bad picks and then everyone else gets screwed up. So we're going to, and by the way, Max, memes and I are at 53, I think you guys are tied, right? 40, 40 points each. Max, I think I'm, are you ahead? I might be one point up here. Oh, no, the loop is tied. Is it tied? Let's see. Is it tied? Shane Falkus? I'm seeing I have 40, you guys. I also see that. Hank and Zach have 39. Okay, that does kind of put a wrinkle in. All right, no, no, I think this is fine. So our idea is that we now go shift to a 1v1v1, Zach, Hank, PFT. I think we should start. PFT is up one point. That's fair. Okay. He has one point and you guys have zero points. Yeah, that's totally fair. You should get that point. I was prepared to compete to, to go down Solo against the two of you, but that's fine. Yeah. Well, I think it's pretty broken up one point. Yeah. And so how we're going to do the rest of the Mount Rushmore season the last eight is that you guys are going to all go 1v1v1. Well, obviously Max, memes and I will still discuss picks and talk about it when you guys make picks. And then at the end of the picks, Max, memes and I will submit the honorable mention list. So that's how we're going to go. I like it. It's a new, new juice, new, new, new, new something going on here. Zach, are you a little scared to go on your own? 1v1v1. PFT, I like you stand on it against these guys. I like, I love you guys' chances as well. I take every competition seriously. I take things day by day, really picked by pick. I'm a processed guy. So, you know, we're just here to be the best team that we can be. All right, so today is the Mount Rushmore of things guys hold on to for too long, correct? Yep. OK, who wants to go for, you know what? We'll do, I'll, I'll, I have a number behind my back. Zach, do you want to guess it? I'll pass on the guess. OK, so it's 1 through 3. 5. It's 1 through 3. This is not saying what's going on right now. Zach, you got it right. It was 3. OK, what pick would you like to start with this draft? This draft, I would like to take the first pick. OK, so then let's go Zach first, Hank second, PFT third and fourth, and then we'll shift it from there. OK, OK, we feel good about that? Sure. All right. I don't think there's a clear 1v1 in this. No. But I would like to ripen. Yeah, let's go. Things that guys hold on to for too long. Things guys hold on to too long. I would like to take Boxers 1. I had it on our list. Great pick. Excellent pick. Great pick. I recently shot a Fruit of the Loom. I just got rid of all my Boxers and just restocked. That's a great feeling. And it is a great feeling. So I have the next pick, it's similar, especially when you lose one. I think that if I was going to write a biography, it would just, the title of the book would just be where, where do all the socks go? Oh. I'm taking the socks. Oh, with the biography be about. Just whatever. Where are all the socks go? About the socks. But like, what were the first page? Like, what would you write to it? Well, that would just be like the general title. Is it Children's book? No, it's just like an autobiography. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Under the lamp? Yeah. No. In the oven? No. The dog has them. In the drawer? No, that's mommy's still though. But every time I lose a sock, that doesn't mean I get rid of the one that I have left I put it in a drawer and then when I go to put on socks, I just have a mountain of single socks. Yeah, that's why you get it. And then I spend an entire like 10, 20 minutes trying to find the matching sock, which is a lot. The sock companies know that, which is why they always do. Even if you have a pair of socks, like your favorite design, they'll just make a new one that's like slightly different. - This is, Hank, you gotta do the total sock overhaul. I've talked about this before. - Yeah, I do. I did it with the Frutal Loom, I gotta do it. I gotta do it with socks. - Every couple of years, I just, I throughout every single one of my socks and then I get like 30 pair and they're all the same brand and they're all the same thing. That way you can't lose 'em. - I still well, but no, you can't. You can, where do they go? - What are you talking about? You have all the same. Yeah, but when you do laundry, you end up with singles and then you're, - You just throw the single out. - Right, that's why I don't do. I keep them too long. - Okay, all right, that's good pick. - Because I think, why don't you think one day, they'll come back. - Yeah. - You gotta wide open, try it. - Those were my, I had those kind of like one, two, so I think we're going chalk so far. I'm gonna go hairstyle. - Oh. - Guys keep the hairstyle, they don't change it up enough. Just kind of through inertia. It's like, I've always looked like this. So I guess I'll look like that tomorrow. - Memes, why are you smiling? - I didn't think that's where it's gonna go. - Okay, okay, say more memes. - No, that's it, that's all I'm saying. - Okay, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go shoes. I like that. - That's good pick. - Yeah, that on there, they get ratty. - We had that on there. - And then your worst pair of shoes, guess what, you don't throw those out either. They just turn into lawn-bowing shoes. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I will take wallet. - Oh man. - The only time I've ever replaced a wallet when I've lost it. - I want you guys to hear something. This is actually good for the podcast. This is the sound of my wallet. - That's Velcro, yeah. - Velcro baby. - PFT has a middle schoolers wallet. - Oh yeah, it's also got a lot of-- - Middle school skaters wallet. - It's got a place for a chain on it too. My favorite thing is to go out to a fancy dinner and then when the bill comes, it's like a black tie place. I take out my wallet and I go. And the waiter tries not to laugh. - PFT, check out my wallet. I just got a new wallet. - That's a lot of cash. - Yeah, there's a lot of cash. But check out my new wallet. - Yeah. - Do you like it? - I'd say like, do you see that? - I can see, do you see the new wallet? - There's tape on there. - Yeah, I just got a new wallet. I, the side of my wallet was broken for about three months. So once a week, I would just have a complete explosion of my wallet. I would go to grab something and every single thing would fall out. I got a new wallet and I got a new wallet. I got some electrical tape and I just taped the side of it. So this bad boy's not going anywhere. - Anywhere. - Good pick. - Thank you. - Great pick. - You just can't get a new wallet. Like it's just, it's, it's, it doesn't fit the same. It's like it just, the whole thing is just feels weird. - This wall has been pretty good to me. - Yeah. - Decent amount of money has passed this wall. - Well, let me see your wallet again. - Just one second, sir. - Oh yeah, that's the same one that might-- - No, you lost a wallet and then you got-- - That is a, that's the same one my son has. - Yeah, the way it's cool. - It's actually, it's an upscale version of that because this one's got like RFID blocking. It's actually like an expensive middle school wallet. - Oh, nice. - What, Max? - Didn't you lose a wallet and you got that like on a whim? - I lost, I lost a wallet at the queue at Quicken Loan's Arena. - Yep. - Before the Cavaliers play a very famous wall. - That's hot. - It brought them a championship. It was like that number one dead and liberal. Actually, what? - Did you talk about that on my book? - I might have. - You lost that wallet in 2017. - Max, what about that in part of my book, by the book? - You should hope to God that I lose my wallet inside whatever the Clipper's Arena's called, or the Sixers Arena's called. - They didn't win a championship after you lost it. - No, they didn't. - You sure? - I was pretty sure it was 2017. - Okay, I thought I was 2016. - It wasn't. - That was the game that we went to, the Kyrie was like-- - I think the best player of all time. - Yeah. - Remember that? - Machine gun count. - Machine gun count. - Yeah, MGK. - Yeah. - Isaiah Thomas Celtics. - Was that a great week one? - Nope. - Let me see. I know it's, I know. - Well, yeah, I mean, it was against the Celtics, so I would hope you'd know. I think you do know, but. - Yeah, I just remember Kyrie was like-- - I think it was the JR Smith time out here. - Oh, yeah. - Cleveland Boston 2017 conference finals. - Bloodbath. - You were lucky to get that Rajan Rondo broke his hand in the first round in the spools. He's up to nothing. - Feel free to. - Feel free to forget. - All right, Zach, you have two picks. - I would like to take the second pick pillows. - That's good. - Okay. - And then third, I would like to take, was the official name, "Things or Items." - Items. - "Things" as things. - It's items. - Oh, well. - No, it can be things. - You can do whatever you want. - Okay. - Okay, third, I would like to take. - Leftovers. - Okay. - Yeah, good pick. - Yeah, good pick. - Yeah, good pick. - Very good pick. - Wage you long. - Look at our fridge right now. I think we have Kso in there from six weeks ago. - Jerky from like a month ago. - Oh, yeah. I'm gonna eat that. - I was gonna take something similar. I think it's still different enough. Just healthy food items. Like you buy healthy food and then you never consume the healthy food and then it just stays in your fridge forever. - And there's a, yeah. - Okay. - That kind of cows is working out when you buy like a piece of lettuce. - Like a bag of spinach pick. - Yeah, leftovers. - But that's, I think that's. - But Hank's is like, give us an example. - They can't be leftovers 'cause they were never started. - Strawberries. - Okay. - Yeah. - I like how many times. - I like that that's our healthy food. (laughing) - No, strawberries are healthy. - It's sweet. - I mean, sort of, like there's still a strawberry. - It's blueberry. - Like that's the, that's the pinnacle of what we do is just like fruit. - Milk. - Fruit healthy. (laughing) - Milk, yeah. - Like petting onions, like you go to the store, avocados, you're like, all right, I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna eat healthy this week. And then two weeks later, you open the fridge and you're like, oh shit, these strawberries. It's just a giant thing of mold. - When we were doing our lists, I mean, eggs, I keep eggs. I'll pull out eggs and it will be like, these were two months ago. - I eat eggs. I actually run through eggs. - I promise I eat, I buy too many eggs. - Do you get the 16 pack? - I get two 12 packs. - Ah, I see many eggs. - And then I'm just like, I'm like, - Do you see eggs? - Yeah, the eat eggs. But not like, we go in spurts, you know? You miss time of spurting, you just got eggs. All right, Pifty, you have two packs. - Okay, I'm gonna go with towels. Okay, we had it on our list. - Too long to get, they get janky, they get holes in them. - Yup. - Like gross, funky. - The towels that are ripped and have like a weird stain. It's like, how did you get a weird stain on a towel? That's supposed to be the cleanest thing and you're just like, I don't know. - It always blows my mind. There's no bigger difference in the world than going to like a sophomore and college dudes apartment and a sophomore and college chicks apartment. - Yup. - It's like, there are two different species entirely. - Correct. - And they have fresh towels, they change and they wash them like once a week. - Change their sheets. I've got like a beach towel that's been hanging, like that's been doubling as a shower curtain for the last week, hanging over my bathtub. Like it is just completely different species. - We should do a YouTube series of just going into different college dudes apartments. - With a black light? - Yeah. - No, we don't need to see that. - That's good idea. - Really? - Just a documentary on dudes apartments. - Yeah. - It's good idea. - Yeah. - You know what I'm supposed to say anything. - I think there's something to be said to the older towels absorbing water better. - Go on. - It feels like there's like a, there's a break in period with towels. The older ones do a better drop drying out. - Wait, are you saying that because like, the longer you have a towel, the more likely it is that's already a little bit wet. - No. - You use it and so you're like, wow, this towel absorbed a lot of wetness. - Not because it's got like four showers worth on it. - Not so much repetition in between washes, more so in like years of having the towel. - Yeah. - You know what's an all-time dudes moment that I'm sure everyone has had happened. It happens to me probably once or twice a month. Just getting in the shower and not looking to see if there's a towel. And I'm getting out and being like, well, what now? - That's every single time I take a shower. And then I just like, all right, I guess I'm just gonna use my shirt. - I gotta find my towel and it's like in a weird spot that I've literally never put a towel before. - I'll use like the little like wash cloth that is this big and just try to get as much as I can. - I'll just walk, I'll walk and just soak the entire hallway to the washroom and I can yell that. - The other day I was looking for the towel and I went into my closet and it was hanging up on a coat hanger in my closet. Because I went there after the shower, put on a t-shirt, had to get hanger in my hand and then replaced where the t-shirt was, with the towel and hung that up for some reason I can't begin to explain. - Yeah. - It sounds like something I'd normally just throw on the ground. - Yeah, the ground is like, yeah, nine times at a time. But then, do you have another pick? - I do, yeah. I'm gonna go girlfriends, okay? Dude's keep the same girlfriends for too long. It's past, all your friends tell you, hey man, we've all been talking and she sucks. - Yeah, but that's already know her and like her family. - No, no one proactive we does it. Usually like they break up, you're like, oh my God, thank God she sucks. And then they get back together. - Right. But you do keep them for too long. - Yeah. But I feel like the people just talk shit behind your back and never actually say. - Right. - Like it has to be real bad. - Real bad. - But yeah, you just think, oh, there's too much work to go back out there right now. I guess we hate each other, but maybe we won't. - I don't think this has been taken. Maybe it has, it's definitely the one that makes me feel the most like a hoarder because I just cannot get rid of them. but I have way too many of them, hats. - Yep, I don't know the list. - I just realized, there's, yeah. - No, there's a one, one picture you would have taken. - There's a massive, yeah. Permission to go back and change. - No. - Abs, permission to hide. - This is like, you like to appeal? - Can I appeal it? - No. - You can appeal. - Appeal denied. (laughing) - But wait, no, I wasn't appealing to you. - Oh, okay. - You granted my appeal for the appeal. - Yeah, so Max, I'm appearing to appeal. - Max, I'd like to formally fall through with the appeal. Hold on, let me talk to my council real quick. - Yep, he's appealing. - It looks like it might be-- - The draft isn't over, either. - It looks, it looks, it looks like it might be a yes. - Appeal denied. - Okay, damn. - There's like a one, one out there. - I can't believe you guys have taken it. - Yep. - We're gonna do our picks. - Well, I can't, all right. - Yeah, we'll do our picks, our team's picks that we can, maybe we just have a columnist as honorable mentions on the graphic. - I'm gonna take a, teachers that don't fit right now, but cook it later. - Okay, that's it, that was a pick. - Oh, that wasn't mine. - Well, not t-shirts that can't fit right now, but just-- - Do you want that on the graphic or do you want t-shirts on the graphic? - I just take t-shirts on the graphic. - Thank you. - T-shirts are such a-- - I have so many t-shirts that I just cannot get rid of that are just so stupid to have. It's brutal. - It will come a day where you need it. - All right, here's our-- - I'm sorry, I just got a text from, I'm just gonna read this, "Bleaf this whole thing out, by the way." - Okay. - But I'm gonna say to you, I just got a text from Mincey. - Hearing (beep) - Pretty wild. - That is pretty wild. - You're gonna have to blink that out. - Yeah, it's good bleep, it's good bleep. - All right. - Keep the Mincey part. - All right, let's do our four picks for the honorable match. - Can I say the one that-- - Well, it might be one of our picks. - But it just dawned on me like, this is a big time fuck up. - Toothbrush. - Well, we had toothpaste on our list. - We had toothpaste. - To say this is one, but toothbrush is like-- - Yeah, that's good one too. - Sneakers. - All right, I said two sneakers. - Do you wanna do our four picks, honorable mentions? I think-- - But you can't vote on these. - No, no, we won't keep it on the vote. So say something, I-- - I like 21. - Yeah, your dreams. - We hold onto our dreams for way too long. - Oh, we can go pro, we can do this, we can do that. I could fucking run under six minute mile. I could bench this. - No, you can't, dude. - You know, your dreams. Similar to dreams, or no, to items, yeah, items, dreams. - Cups and mugs, you get a free cup from bar. I have a problem. - I actually disagree. Those are the best cups I mentioned. - Oh, but there's some that are just like so dead. I have a cup from a bar that hasn't existed for 10 years. - That's an awesome cup. - You don't even know what's on it. It doesn't have a logo on it. - Yeah, but that's an awesome cup. - But you look at it and you're like, real ones, no. - Yeah. - Like I had, I had the dream team cups from McDonald's. Probably for 12 years when I was brought up. Fuck that one. - I like 15. - That used to be Christmas. - All right. - I still do a number. - All right, so dreams, cell phones, cell phones, and electronics, cell phone slash computers. You just can't throw 'em out. I don't know why. It's cell phone. - Getting a new phone. There's something about having like an old phone with the battery sucks and it's like a little bit cracked that you still don't want to get a new one. You just hold on to that shitty one for, you're probably doing it right now. - I'm going through it right now. It won't charge. But you don't think it a new one. - I've reached the point where it's such a problem where now I have to put a magnetic battery pack on the back of it and then plug that battery pack into a charger overnight. So the charger is then filtered from the battery pack into my phone because there was one time in Patucket with a pup punk, I had it plugged in overnight, didn't charge at all. And it was on one percent battery when I woke up for a flight. So I've got like a daisy chain of charge. And you're right, I'm not going to get rid of it until it absolutely must go. - Right. - We won't even put on, let's just say all of those. - Yeah, I was just saying. - It's easier to just do that. Baseball cards that are like truly worthless. You know, like the, not like good ones, but like you just have cards that are birthday cards. I never throw up birthday cards. And I just hold on to them forever. We had sheets on there. - I said iPhone boxes. - iPhone boxes, for somebody you just, it's a good box. - I thought it was way like a box. - Oh, I keep those forever. - In your junk drawer, you just have cords. - I have cords, I have that. - No idea what they go to. - Various charger cables. - They're just none of them work for anything that you need. - Chargers are always spanged up. - Trophies we had on there, but sometimes you want to keep it trophy, but there are some that are ridiculous. - Memes said grudges. - Yeah, oh yeah. - No, I said grudges. - Oh, you said. - I said friends, friends, guys hold on to friends too long. Dreams, something that's just broken, like any item that's just broken, you just have it. We had toothpaste, your feelings, your feelings, and then my last pick was things that you hold on to for too long, all misemployees. - Yeah. - Just in general, yeah. - Yeah, in general. - That's a good one. - It's very relatable, so I think everyone else. - Except, sometimes they send you a bag or text. - Yeah. - That was a good amount of rush work. - I also had cars on my list, mattresses. I had, then shampoo bottles. - Yeah. - They've been done all the way to the end. - You put some water in it and you try and shake it up to see if you can get the last, and I do that like five times. - And then yeah, like the third time you're like, maybe I didn't fill it up and shake it hard enough for a couple of times, I'm sure there will be some suds that come, oh, but when the suds do come out, you feel like you're a scientist. - Oh yeah, I figured it out. I've just got hacked it. - Unlimited energy. - What else any other honorable mentions you guys had? - Mail. - Yeah. - Not a mail, intermural shirts. - Yup. - Game ticket stubs. - Yeah, I think every guy, everyone knows a friend - Receipts. - Who actually has kept every single game ticket stubs. And you're like, that's awesome. And then every guy, everyone else is like, I wanna be that guy. And I think I have, if I open up like my nightstand, I think I have like three ticket stubs. It's like, I was gonna be that guy once. - I remember when I was a kid, I had a shoe box that said stubs on and I think I had like two stubs. - Yeah, right. You just kid, 'cause I, you just either are that. I have a friend who has like hundreds of ticket stubs and you're like, that's fucking cool. And then at one point, you're like, I'm gonna do that. And you aren't, you aren't that guy. - Ticket stubs also just like don't exist anymore. - Yeah, that's true. - I think you were just making that box so you could keep your barbecue sauce in there. Wanna remember it by? - Oh, yup. - Yeah, I think we have the big ones. I do think that toothbrush is a big mess though. - Yeah, I keep toothpaste more. - I buy toothbrushes in like bulk and I'll just swap 'em out. Like I'll buy the 10 pack of 'em. - I try it, yeah. - But toothpaste, I will squeeze 'til there is nothing left. - Yeah. - Nothing left and then I'll cut it open. - Why? - You can cut it open. - There's a hole in you too when you cut it open. - Yeah, you can cut it open, dude. - Absolutely, you can cut it open. - You can do it. - All right, good amount, Rushmore. Let's do hot sea cool throne. And we'll get to Pete Crow Armstrong and Joe Buck. Hot sea cool throne is brought to you by our friends at Body Armor. This episode is brought to you by Body Armor Flash IV. 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What society's changed? - He specifically said Zach, I mean. - But also Billy was podcasting against like plumbers. Plumbers and horse. That's who dominated the podcasting charts when Billy was around. - Yeah, Zach, do you think that we've been soft on you? Memes and I were both here with Billy. - Now, some people-- - People weren't working on the show together. - Okay, I will say this, Billy probably has a fair gripe that we were maybe a little hard on. Billy also didn't maybe, didn't always say like, hey, I fucked up. Zach says I fucked up a lot. So that might be a little different. But Billy has a, it was probably harder on Billy to start. Jake using his one example is they made me do dip. And it's like, wasn't that a bet? Was very funny. - And he didn't even do dip. It did have nicotine, I think, right? - I think Billy has a fair argument. I don't know if Jake has a fair argument. - The other one Jake gave was doing the fake boobs. - Yeah, yeah, which, yeah, that's awesome. - Yeah, Billy having to fight Jose Canstaco. - Yeah. - Eat a cheese steak. - But Billy, I also, I bet you-- - It's spicy cheese steak. - I also-- - I would bet you that if Billy would say himself, he's a tough, he's like a hard coaching guy. You need to coach him hard. He's not a soft coaching guy. But yeah, I see it. We're gonna have to be a little harder on that. - Well, I also, Billy said in the example, he's like, Zach had to do that bike thing. And I was like, what was he talking about? He's like, oh, Travis Pastrana, when you had to like take a bike off a ramp and almost die. - Yeah, yeah. By far the most dangerous thing that-- And I mean, to give Zach credit, I did buy an ice cream machine that he had no idea about. And I said, you have to keep this existing. That wasn't super. easy. Billy did that with the goldfish. Goldfish, right. Yeah. By the way, our Larry chapter was, I wrote the Larry chapter and I went back and found the actual statistics. It's incredible. He was the greatest. He's mad at all time. Magic. It's actually insane how good of a goldfish he was. Billy also said like he's completely disconnected from the internet now. That's good. Which is great. Yeah. Happy for Billy. Yeah. Do you think it's true? No. I think disconnected a lot more than he was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good for him. I hope he's happy. Yeah. We love those guys. They both wrote chapters. So, uh, we, you know, those guys are family for life. Like I truly do mean that they are part of this show. You can't, like, you can't write this book without having them right in. So they did. Jake wrote a very good chapter. Very interesting chapter. Billy, the way that he, like, signs off on his chapters, just if you are a Billy football fan, you will love that. It's incredible. Okay. So we got to be tougher on Zack and memes according to Billy. Yeah. Memes, we're going to give you some tough luck. Fair. Fair. A fair. Memes. Memes, a show call in the last of the day in the building in the building. Oh, yeah. No, you would get your shit pushed in, buddy. Memes just get memes all day. He's just been looking at me. He's like, dude, we got soft. We got soft. Yeah. It is. This, this, this were my entire day. Should we put, should we butt-fuck memes? I mean, memes you do, you do that. Just butt-fuck them. You got to take it a little bit. Like, dude, it's fine. Yeah, no, we got, we got to get hard. We got to get hard. Who can you fight? We need to make you fight somebody. What if we do anything butt-fight? Yeah, butt-fuck. Yeah, butt-fight. Okay, we can call it whatever you want. You'll butt-fight somebody. I'm open to anything. Yeah, I know. Literally. Now, just if we just butt-fucked memes in Senate to Billy, being like, this is for you, Billy. All this guy's fighting me so hard. This guy's so, this guy's so soft. Oh, he's got one shit. This guy's so sick. This guy's butt-fucking-the-other. Yeah. Okay. My cool thorn is music. Yeah? Pat McAfee put out a album. It's been been the talk of the town the last few days. Ton. Talk of the ton. And then former co-worker Dan Rappaport put out a Scotty shirt for song. Have you guys heard this? No, no way. I'll play it. I'll play. No, this is Max play. Max play. This is kind of where I, you know, this is kind of where I'm like, hey, Billy's got it right. We're just less internet, less internet. Here's the Super Bowl chef. Are we allowed to play it? Yeah. Is it who's Twitter? Yeah. He quote, he did. Is it good? I don't know. It's the banger. I think you, I think we can. Oh, there's it. Oh, there's gotta be it. Oh, it's only like 20 seconds. I don't think that we'll see. What? Because I'm not going to want the trophy because it feels so empty without me. That's that's why the internet was invented. Yeah. I'm also going to say something in defense of Dan Rappaport. I, he knows he's a dork. I don't know. No, he does. He knows. He knows he's a dork. Even dorks can. And I like, I like that about him. Like he, I think he, if you're like, dude, or you a dork about golf, he's like, yeah, I am. Remember when the tiger thing happened? We, we had him on the yak after and he's like, yeah, that was a little ridiculous. And I was crying about tiger. Like he knows. And I'm okay with self wear dorks. So think that was parody. I think he was, no, I think he knows like, this is ridiculous, but I'm putting it out because I just love Scotty singer. No, I don't think he thinks he's a banger. I think he's like, I'm a dork and I love Scotty. Watch me, watch me drop some bars. Yeah. Honestly, it was better than I thought it was going to be. Had a little flow. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know what? We don't haze enough on this show. No. I would like to see memes make a song. Yeah. Memes make a fucking song. Memes, you have to make a song because you guys asked I will do it. All right, toughen up. Make a song about Gino. Toughen up, shithead. Any Gino? No, Gino Smith. Okay. The Jats. Gino Smith. And make sure. Gino and the Jats, seven Sunday heroes. It's charity. Yeah. All right, good hot seat, cool to our own Hank. Thank you. Way to go. All right, PFT. My hot seat is our fantasy league. Oh, yeah. I alluded to this in text message to the boys last night. I have some deep concerns about the future of our fantasy league and how Jerry O'Connell is approaching this season because I'm sure the draft has to be like any week now, right? Mm-hmm. It's kind of how the pattern goes. Yeah, we're right around. Yeah. So Jerry, as I mentioned in the past, has been extremely active in this fantasy chat. It just got brought up last week. Maybe we increased the buy in this year. Okay. And I'm like, I'm fine with that. Whatever Jerry's wife will allow him to do. Let's do that. Yep. And then CJ McCallum clowned on him a little bit. Oh, no. No, Jerry. Kind of making fun of him. But I was like, no, Jerry, like, it's up to him. If you guys want to double the stakes, triple the, like, whatever Jerry wants, it's all good. Then everybody started texting each other last night. And everyone's, I'm sure everyone's got a fantasy league out there. And once that group check gets going, it gets out of control. It's crazy. And you'll come back to like 60 mistext messages from that group. Correct. That's what it was like last night. So I popped in and somebody said, Jordan Schultz posted, let's set a draft date and confirm buy in. What does everyone feel good with? We can proceed. And I said, Jerry, question mark. And then I believe Julius Randall responded, Jerry left the chat. Oh, no. Exclamation point. I went back and I looked at it. Jerry left this chat. I'm trying to find the exact date that he bounced out. Jerry left this chat a couple of weeks ago. I believe. Okay. It looks like it had to reach. I tried to add Jerry last night back to the chat. But since Jerry is a green dot guy, yeah, it would completely ruin the chat. Yeah, we'd have to rename the chat. Dark Web shit. It'd be a brand new chat for everybody. Correct. And now I feel like Jerry's gone dark on us. Like he left. Wait, so who, who said to raise the stakes? I forget who originally sent it. Okay. So Jerry, Jerry leave because the stakes were raised. I think he should call him. Yeah, I think we should call him. I think it might have been Jordan Schultz. I recommend it. We raised which is very funny considering who his father is. Do you think we could probably do it? Actually, do you? $2,000. There's like nobody here is really fighting for it, right? Quash hypothetical question. And this is not against anyone. Do we think that Adam Schaefter has ever balked at someone saying, let's raise the stakes? Uh, probably. Yeah. He thinks so. Okay, all right. The fair answer. I don't know. I don't think he's got money like I don't think he's he would ever be in. He's got his bag. I don't think he'd ever be in a group that would suggest raising the stakes. He's got his bag up, though. No, we can't even get a hold of our fancy manager. What do you think he's doing right now? I think I'm probably retweeting compliments about himself writing the book. What do you think he's doing? Probably like, showering in the bathroom of a gym somewhere. Okay, like in this sink. What else? What else? Give us all their other. What is Jerry doing right now? He's probably waiting until I pick up his daughter from school. Okay, auditioning for a role. Maybe getting some some dinner for the family. Well, actually, Hank, no, because it's you know where Jerry is. Bring him in. I know his uncle. He's out here. Did you believe that he was here? No. All right. Well, we're, we got a, I'm a little, well, next week we have, we got Jerry's with us. So we'll get to the bottom. But I feel like I am, I'm right to be concerned about this. Definitely. 100% who leaves the fancy football group chat unless they have no desire or intention of returning. Yeah, that is I quit. Is that not an I quit move? I'm gonna give them the better for the doubt. It's just the green. It's not going to be someone with like an iPhone update or his phone. We might have to buy him a fan. He should have a fantasy phone. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, you're right. He needs just a separate phone just for fantasy. Yep. Should be fantasy. Should be a fantasy phone. It should be one of the ones with the text buttons on it. The ones that Jeff D. Lo is reviewing. Nope, because I would still be green. Yep. True 100%. True 100%. We got it. We should, I will buy Jerry. I'll buy Jerry a new phone before I get myself a new phone. Yeah. That's how seriously I'm because it sounds like he just walked away from the sport that he loves. Yeah. And it's quite frankly not something that you would expect to fantasy. To see. To see. To see. And then my cool throwing, it was going to be the Chargers, Chargers being Chargers. But it's also the weird relationship between players that used to play for a Harbaugh, then going directly to another Harbaugh. Because Naji Harris is now a giant. Yes. And I need somebody to make a list of like all the players that they've shared. Because it does feel like a fallback career. If you leave a job with one Harbaugh, you can immediately guess what, you've got you've got a home with the other on the opposite coast. Yeah. All right, my hot seats is Penn State students that like cocaine because apparently there was two fraternities running like a narco's episode that got busted up. What max? That was crazy. That story. You don't think so? The only thing I saw is that the guys were doing drugs in college. Yeah, no, but I was going to do a max impression. I was just going, news flash. Brats are doing coke. Yeah. - No, the part that was crazy was alleged, there's all alleged that they were making pledges like cut up bricks as part of their initiation. - You get free labor. - That's crazy, come on. I agree, doing drugs college, who the fuck cares? - They were like, they were getting bricks. - They were getting bricks and having like being like, you want to be in this frat, make some fucking bags for who told them. - Is somebody that didn't get in, probably? - No, there was an undercover buyer who bought from one of the kids, and then I think that kid ratted. - Can't do that, bro. - Yeah, you can't do that. - You broke the code. - It's quite a, it's, I would say it's the most significant. - The kids look alike. - Yeah, that's the thing. They basically, a bunch of codies. - And arrested for being Pablo Escobar. - I think one of their dads was helping to run it. - Yeah, I was trying to ever hide it. I think he was trying to hide the shit after they were about to get busted. - Oh, so wasn't the dad that was getting it and then sending it to the kids? - I read it very quickly. I think it was like a dad was basically trying to obstruct justice and hide it in the evidence. - It's just a good dad. - Yeah, but yeah, if your kids look so young, and they were just, on their Pablo Escobar shit. - So yeah, it's gonna be, I guess there's a power vacuum at Penn State now. - So who's gonna have it? - If you're interested. - There's a market. - The Whiteout. - Yeah. - Also, hot seat is, I'm scared to give any updates about Liv 'cause Hank and Max will be mad about it, but John Rom feels like he's leaving. My cool throne. - And also, it's gonna be the last tournament, come out. - And it's gonna be the last tournament. - And are you gonna go? - I think so. - I was telling Hank. - Fuck yes. - If Hank wears his four Aces gear, there's a good chance that they actually let him play. - Yeah. - By the last, you might be the fourth ace. - You should show up. - I'm gonna need guys. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's like a softball team. - Yeah. - And your record is like one in seven. And you need guys just to finish out the schedule. - Yeah. - That's what they're like. - Hey, do you have any buddies that maybe play in college that could show up? Hank, you can do this. - And then my cool throne is Hosses because we have Matt Tugboat, Wilkinson, getting called up by the Giants, 270 pound lefty. - Hoss. - Peace. - So excited. We need more Hosses. Dying breed. This guy is an absolute Hoss. - This guy is a giant. - I fucking love it. Let's get more of-- - Tugboat is just-- - Tugboat's so good. - Awesome nickname. - Awesome. - We don't get nicknames like that anymore. - For a big dude. - That's a 1920's ass nickname. - Yeah. - That's so good. - All right. - Gentlemen Tugger. - Zach. - My housey this week, we talked about a, we talked about Steele Talk Shane. We talked, guys, you fight. My housey this week is gonna be the rest of the NFL 'cause did you guys see the ruin Bane is absolutely puttin' in at least an extra hour every practice this week. - So what get his arms longer? - No, they're saying short arms, actually with the aerodynamics and the wind, probably a plus side. I don't know if you guys saw that science on dudes. - I did not know that way. - But wait, go back. - Science on dudes, get through the wind quicker if you way less. Longer arms heavier, aerodynamics. - But they also like, they weigh them too. So get some weight. - That is correct, definitely have some weight, but if you see the explosion off the line here. - How many sacks do you think a T-Rex will get? Probably a lot. - A T-Rex on a male NFL field? - Yeah. - All the sacks. - Wait, what about a female? - A female, no, a female dinosaur. - I don't think a T-Rex would get all the sacks. - We're also just like against other dinosaurs or your savings. - You've spent a really long day, we're gonna get into dinosaurs playing sports with peak arms. - Deep into dinosaur. - Yeah, so we should save that. - Yeah, I think you could just run around. I don't think a T-Rex has like lateral agility. - So you're saying, oh, so the T-Rex is the same size as the other dude, it's a shrunken down one? - No, no, no, no, I'm saying a huge T-Rex, but laterally, I don't know how they can move side to side. - Bull rush though. - You have to, they go forward, then you go around. - I was thinking an ankle flake, you know. - Yeah, there's better ones for the bull rush. - You could probably run underneath the T-Rex. - Maybe a bull. - I would say like a, like, was it all sorts? I think the allosaurus is like the slightly smaller T-Rex. - An actual bull? - I said a bull. - Yeah, I mean, a bear would be a great no-stackle. - Brown bear, black bear. - Grizzly. - But you could just play dead. - We did this before. - Not grizzly. - Oh yeah, what is it? - It's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow. - If it's white, say goodnight. - White say goodnight, is it? - Yeah, it's brown. - Lay down. - Lay down. - If it's black. - If it's black. - Fight back. - Fight back, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Here we go, boys. If it's grizzly, you're fucked. - And if it's grizzly, you can't block it. - No, it's polar bear. - No, I know, but grizzly's also you're fucked. - Polar bear's brown bear. - Is it? - I'm sorry, grizzly bear's brown bear. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Grizzly bears are brown bear. Polar bear, that's the one that, like, if it sees you, you're dead. - Okay. - Nice pin, listen. - Yes and no. - A weekly topic. - Oh, grizzly bears are not all brown bears or grizzly bears got it. Talking bears. What about if you're back? - Joey Camasta. - Oh, yeah, lay down. - Yeah. Say what's up. Love Joey. - Oh, yeah, yeah, no, the same thing. Stop this. - Cool throw. - Cool throw. - My cool throw in this recently, Netflix, 'cause Netflix announced that we're going to get an extended look presentation of GTA VI. They're gonna give us a cinematic view, which we'll be saying. - So we get, we get a Netflix special on GTA VI before we get GTA VI. - That's also true. - Yeah. - Okay, so, my theory is that-- - Is there a release date? - Officially. - You could pre-order. There's been like three release dates in the last like four years. So that's always gonna be up in the air. But I mean, if we're gonna get like a cinematic look into the game, pretty exciting. - I feel like they're going to just make like every video game inside this one video game. - Yeah, you can like go play 3B3 basketball, just as like a, oh, there's a park. Let me just go play 2K here. Like, oh, there's-- - Yeah. - Or it's like, oh, there's a recruiting station. Now I'm playing Call of Duty. - Yes. - And you, like, get shipped off the war. - Yeah. - They test your eyes. Like, oh, no, you can't fly, it gives you a rifle. - Yeah. Yeah, there's, it's gonna be every video game wrapped up into one. - Yeah, and set in Florida home game for some guys. Should we be good? Good job, Zach. Same to you guys. All right, let's do, we got two great interviews. P-Core Armstrong and Joe Bach. - Before we get to PCA, he's brought to you by our good friends over at BetterHelp. His podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. BetterHelp is the best place to go for therapy. Lots of people need therapy, not just if you think that you've needed to talk to a person for a long time. I think day to day, everyone's life could be a little bit better if they spoke with a therapist. You've heard me talk about BetterHelp for a long time. I don't know that we've actually talked about how much people love the service when they use it. 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It's Peacrow Armstrong from the Chicago Cubs. Fresh off, one of the best games, regular season games I've ever attended on Monday night, where let's start with this game because you hit a home run to start the game and a home run to end the game. And I think I saw the stats, That the last time that happened was like 1964 or something, which is insane. Uh, were you in the zone because it feels like you were in the zone. You just were seeing the ball perfectly on Monday night. I mean, I did, I made up my mind that I was going to, that I was going to swing at the first pitch two hours before the game. Um, cause I, I had, I was scuffling for what felt like three months, but there was the last seven games or whatever and I was like, man, I'm just, I'm playing defense again. So I was like, I got to go out there and I'm making my mind up now that I'm going to swing. And sometimes that's just, that's all you need is like, I ended up swinging at the fucking first pitch three, three of my first four at bats, I think. Yeah. Um, that doesn't always work, but that's, that's exactly what I needed to show you. So I think it got me, it got me back and like that, that, uh, that attack mode. Wait. So you just said, so this is where I love about you because you like reading everything and knowing a little like your heart on yourself to, to a point where it's like, dude, you're, you're about, you're like the odds on favor to MVP and you just said you were scuffling for three months. It's what it felt like again, like perspective is important. You just went 30, 30 back to back seasons first time in Cubs history. Yeah. Which scuffling, the, the Kansas City DC road trip, that felt like, that felt like the longest time ever. Cause I, last year when I was, when I was hot, like I took for granted, how easy it felt. And I kind of forgot what baseball was really like. Yeah. Um, yeah, like that, that was the first week that I had had that kind of struggle with the punch outs and I wasn't walking, I was putting weak ass contact them. So like, it felt like a long time, uh, and then getting smoked by the Cardinals didn't help. Yeah. So like, I think, you know, last year I could have let that, that compile and, and snowball and really trend downward, but I'm not making decisions like that. I'm like, there's an active choice to, to like a sense of urgency. Yeah. Be aggressive when you're, yeah, because that, that's a big thing about your season, which has been awesome to watch is your ability to, to take pitches like what, when did that start to click for you? Like I, I, I even look back. I think it was the Kansas City series might have been before that where you did a ABS. And I think it was like 0.02 of an inch that it was a ball. Yeah. Right. It's like, how the hell did he see that? But that's, feels like how you've been seeing it all year. Yeah, that's, that's a, that's a decent way to put it like, that's a, that's a good representation of like, of how confident I feel about, you know, or at least where my understanding of the strikes on has gotten this year. That was a lucky guess. That one, like, that was a, that was a cutter that kind of backed up and, you know, it's supposed to come back my way and it, it presented itself like it went the other way. So I thought it was a change up and I was like, well, if it, that was a change up and it's going the other way, that was definitely a ball. And then I saw it, inch in, inch in, inch in closer to the zone and I was like, no, but yeah, like, I think the Kansas City series was one of my favorites that I'll probably like look back on now because I think I got one hit, maybe two hits in those three games, but I walked five times. Right. You know, that's what I'm most proud of this year is, is my ability to, to get on base that way. But it started this year, like, yeah, I think there's different ways to play the game and have it bats where like last night, my walk last night, 1-0, like, I'd made up my mind that I was going to take 1-0 because a lot of guys like to go strike the ball with me. They like to get me to chase 1-0. And so I was like, fuck, I'll just, I'll showbunt trying to remember that, yeah, try and see if we can get the third baseman crash and open up the field a little bit. And it ends up being 2-0 and then I'm not swimming in 3-0 against a lefty, like it's just, I've learned how to play the game a little bit differently this year. Yeah. Yeah, you can, I mean, obviously you can notice in your numbers and your patience at the plate. Yeah. Yeah. Once you get on base, is there, have you ever been too aggressive? Hell yeah. How do you dial yourself back? Because that's like a strength of yours. It's like, you need, you are super aggressive. Well, people try to take back your cycle because you got picked off right after. Right. That was fun. Yeah, like admittedly that was fun. I don't blame him for that. I would be the first one to be like, yeah, that's, I don't, I wonder if that's ever been done. Yeah. If we want to talk about first. Yeah. Who, who, who does that? Who actually let themselves get picked off after fucking it. It was, well, it was my cap. It was a perfect PCA moment because I mean, I would assume you're not really online much during the season, but like, there's, I think everyone in Chicago defends you to like the end degree. I know I'm at the front lines being like, he's the best. And then there's some haters. So you getting a cycle, which is objectively like an incredibly hard thing to do and then getting picked off. It's like, you just gave that red meat to the haters to be like, buddy, got picked off. Yeah. I was giving the people what they wanted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have, do you have always have the green light? Yeah. For the most part. I mean, there's times like, after, after I hit that single in my second of bat and say it's up when he just took Kestio 110 miles an hour to dead center. And I'm like, two outs, I don't, I don't need to run here. But then we get to strike some like, I trust and say his ability to, to like have a real at bat and extend the at bat. So I'm, I'm a little more aggressive, I think, later on in that at bat, but picking and choosing like, I think there's just certain guys that are too, too fast to the plate where I'm like, again, I trust in hitters two, three and four to, to at least advance me or whatever it is. And, um, but yeah, I think for the most part, the green light is, is always there unless it's, you know, we're getting our ass kicked or vice versa and there's just no need for it. Like, I think there's always benefit to get on second base. Yeah. Would you say is it better to hit a walk off home run or walk off steel home? Uh, like the, the baseball nerd in me probably says the stolen base and, you know, forcing an error, but I've never had a walk off home or before. So that probably the home or the home or felt long, well, that's the right answer. It's the right answer. Guys like me that would never be able to hit home run would say like actually stealing home is better. Like Tim Correction would tell you stealing home is better. But then people that can hit home runs are like, yeah, nothing like a long ball. Yeah. Had you never hit a walk off in any level of baseball? I hit a, I hit a, uh, no, well, I hit a walk off in AAA. I hit a, I hit a walk off and double, I did, but there's, yeah, I mean, no way to compare it. Yeah. Last night to any of those, it felt like the Bat Flip was, was planned. You launched that thing. Yeah. I honestly, I was, I was walking and I, I think that was my time to, to think of what I was going to do to celebrate. I don't know, I was just like, fuck it, let's just let it eat throw it and throw this one. You can. Don't hit say, uh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. It was, it was an incredible, incredible night. And, uh, yeah, I mean, it's just been awesome to watch this season. It feels like things have, do you feel like things have clicked because last year, you had an incredible start and then it, it, it tailed off. But even your, your pitch and coach said it in an interview. I think in the office, he's like, if Pete has that full season every year, like he's going to have a really good career, but you're, you're hardest critic and you're like, I need to do it for the whole entire year. Yeah. Um, you know, if last year, if I hit, I, I, I hit what like six homers in the second half last year, if I hit six homers in the first half and 25 in the second half, it'd be a completely different conversation just because of the, the way that the season went, right? Yeah. Um, like I turned it on a little bit in the playoffs, but still it wasn't like, I was not a complete player and I, I, I didn't feel like my season was a, it was a complete season, but Nico phrased it in such a, such a great way for me. He was like, um, I mean, I guess I already gave it away, but he was like, if you would have hit six and 25 in the different, yeah, or how would you feel looking back at 31 homers and these RBI, I'd have been like, well, you're right. So he's like, seasons are going to shape up how they shape up, um, if you want to feel any type of way about the numbers at the end of it, like, feel the type of way about the numbers and the numbers only, like you hit 31 homers last year, right? That's really good no matter how you did it. This year, though, I, I don't feel like, again, I'm making a conscious choice that I'm not going to give it away. I, I know I can walk now, I know I can, um, I know I can get on base in a much different way than last year, and, um, I feel like if the season were to end today or yesterday, like I would feel very, I'd feel very proud of like what I improved on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'd say maybe the biggest improvement is, is the number change. Yeah. You are faster. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, uh, yeah, there's, there's less going on back there. I mean, Jed, though, it was Jed, dude, he, he, uh, we would like, we would just put up shots before stretch in the morning during spring and, uh, Naperville, legend, Nikki Lopez, um, him and I were out there every morning, just about and, and Jed, I guess, gets a lot of shots up, uh, on his own, like it, whatever Jim, he goes to, yeah. [BLANK_AUDIO] So I guess Jets got a pretty good jumper and he was like, "Hey man, you ever feel like you're wearing a Lyman's number?" And I was like, "Well, yeah, but this is one of the three choices I had when I debuted." So it's not entirely like what I want to wear. And he was like, "All right, well, I think you need a fast guy number." And Ford just become available. So he was like, "If I make this shot, you're changing your number." And I was like, "Okay." - He was right. - Yeah, he's right. - It's actually great for idiots like us because we say that all the time. Like there's fast guy numbers and there's slow guy numbers. And anything in the 50s is not a fast guy number. - I think 55 is a. - Not a fast guy number, baby. But if you had to pick the fastest of the 50s, I would agree. - Yeah, I'd say it's. - Yeah. - Although you can't put that number, that's Jent Daniels. - You know what I'm saying? - I'd appreciate you changing your number out of respect for Jent Daniels. - Yeah, you know. - Yeah, I can't have the five on that. - We've had some conversations. (laughing) I don't even want, I don't know if I want to get into that one. - Yeah, that is the four, the number change has been huge. - Made all the difference. - Yeah. - I have a question about your defense. Like is there ever a ball that you're like, I can't get to it because you're just, I think you're so fast and so good off the jump that you make plays that are not normal, look normal. And that almost skews people to be like, well, yeah, of course he got to it. It's like, no, you don't realize. He got to that because he's jumping faster than everyone else. So are there ever balls like, no, I can't get this because I feel like you can get to everything. - A lot of the times there's balls that I'm like, I have no change, like that bias kid, I gave him a little courtesy jog on that first homer, but in my right mind, I'm like that's gonna go on to Wavelin through center field. - Yeah, true. - That he's gonna do something that's never been done before ever. - Yeah, there's balls that, especially if the wins blown out like any ball over my head and left center, I'm usually like, that's a homer unless it's hit super low. - Yeah. - But no, like I'm always like, Adam Jones, I guess had some saying he told me this, he was like, if it hits grass, it's your ass. So that's, I literally remember that every day. - Yeah. - And so maybe that helps me get some more baseballs, but no, I mean there's always balls that O'Neill Cruz hitting a 121 mile an hour line drive through the three, four hole, they get still wall. You're like, come on bro, like, yeah, those are, yeah. Boy, let me ask the different way. - This is very powerful with Big Cat's doing right now because since we want you to win MVP, he will be your propaganda. - Oh, I already have done it. - So like saying, if somebody, he's already thinking about the counter, I don't see him making too many diving catches because like, well that's because he's so fast, he gets a jump, doesn't have to. It's like when we bet on Travis Hunter to win Heizman, it's like, well, actually doesn't have that many interceptions because they just don't throw. - Yeah, yeah, I mean, Shohei had two home runs last night and I was very quick to say that it was in Colorado in a blowout and I was just like, that does not, like Pete's home runs mean more. All right, so let me ask it a different way. Are you ever surprised by your own speed where you overrun one and you're like, oh shit, I gotta slow up here to make the catch? 'Cause I've noticed that sometimes where at the very end, you're like, you're almost past it and you're like, fuck, I was too fast for that. - There's been a few times, yeah, like no one gorman hit me a ball in St. Louis that I overran and kind of like slid backwards for that was last year. There's little ones like that that come to mind for sure. But I feel so comfortable like, and this is such a baseball player thing, like you watch, you watch like Danzby catch fly balls like he let, he catches it like here and everyone's taught to catch it above your face and keep it in front of your eyes. I'm like, I just feel comfortable off my right shoulders. - Yeah. - If I am going to my left and it looks like I overrun a ball, like sometimes that's on purpose 'cause I'll just, I like catching it here. - Yeah. - But yeah, I mean, sometimes like when I first started doing this new little prep step that we worked on last spring, I found myself getting the balls that I was like, oh, wait, what's the prep step? - All the youngsters out there. - It's not, if you were to watch an infielder, if you were to watch like Danzby or Niko, they just do like a little hop. - Hop, yeah. - You guys all do it at the same time. - Yeah, yeah, like the whole defense. - Well, the Quentin Berry got our, all our outfielders to start doing that. I mean, I can't speak for a happer, but I know Sayah has been doing a little hop and it's just the whole like object in motion, stays in motion into whatever, like the, you're faster if you're already moving. And if you're, even if you get a later reaction or whatever it is, like if you're already moving, you're the first, however many important feet covered are gonna be better than if you're just standing still. So like I bought into that and it works. - That's awesome. - If only there was like a nickname that we could give it with your name. - What kind of hop would it be? (laughing) - It would be a Crowhop, maybe. - Crowhop, yeah, yeah. - rebranding the Crowhop, yeah. - Yeah, I like that. - I've asked too many questions that are basically loaded to be like, you're so awesome. So now here's a not, you're so awesome question. - For real me, fuck. - When everyone chance PCI, I feel like you strike out. - A lot of the time, I think. - We gotta stop it, dude. I mean, if you'd like to last year, - Yes. - One of them pull up some fun stats. Do some research on when I was having my name chant it. - Yes. - I would literally sit in my seat to be like, stop, everyone stop. Like he's gonna get too hyped up. I was right there with you. And it was, no, my asshole got tight, dude. I wasn't like, I wasn't hyped at all. This year has been so much better with that though. Like my hitting coach was like, hey, you know that they're cheering for you, right? Like it's not like these are the opposing fans and all the energies with the picture. Like it's all for you, dude. And I was like, okay. Like we'll see, let me just succeed a couple of times when they are chaining and then it's been better this year. But I feel the same way. - Okay. - So was it, yeah, 'cause it was just like, I remember just being at games late in the season being like, can we not do the chant? Like let them just, let them just bat. - Dude, it was like, it felt like more of a responsibility that I had to get a hit because people were up on their feet and giving me that kind of love. I was like, I have to do this now. And when you're pressing, it's never gonna work. So like, yeah, you're right, man, that'd be a fun stat. - Yeah, 'cause it's like, just human nature, you hear your name being chanted and you're not gonna take a pitch. - Yeah. - If it's close, it's like, I want to swing. These people wanna see me hit a home run. But that's not always a smart thing. - Absolutely. - So maybe just don't chain on, if you have two strikes against you, no PCA chance. - You know what? But again, like this year, it's been better, yeah. I can, I play the game differently. I feel comfortable taking 1-0. Like just because it's a hitter's count, I don't have to swing. So like, you know, maybe if it's like a 2-0, maybe let's not. - Okay, I like that. - I like that. - 'Cause then I'm like, all right. Like I wanna let it eat. - Right, yeah. - Let's let 'em see one, yeah. But a lot of guys don't throw fastballs and 2-0 counts anymore. So, I don't know, I think that's a good point though. Like, it's the coolest thing ever at the same time. - Right. - That's what you, that's the kind of shit that gives you chills. And like, they were chaining my name before that any even started yesterday. - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - I've never, I've never had that happen to me before and that was really cool. - Yeah, they're probably gonna do it before your first at bat tonight. - That'd be awesome. - Like, it definitely is gonna happen. - I've got some really dumb questions for you. You have to figure out which one was asked by Steven Che. - You was the one who said he was sitting. - Again, Steven Che was the one who was sitting with the Cubs Jersey in a seat that he never sits in. And I was like, why are you sitting there? And he's like, what? I always said, no, you don't. It's because Pete's coming in, so. - Okay, so I'm gonna ask you three dumb questions and you have to find the Che. Question number one, you're five-tool player. What's your favorite tool? - My glove, my defense is my favorite tool. - That's a good tool, for sure. - Second, will you sprint to first base if you get a walk? - No. - Never? - Never, never. There's like one guy that can do that is bringing Nemo 'cause he's done that his whole career, if I were to do that. I've looked like an idiot in so many ways this year that I don't need to add to that. - We try to get Aussie albys to do it for us. And Matt Olson was like, you guys are idiots. He literally never walks. He's like, it's never gonna happen. His face rate is like off the charts. - Yeah, like that guy's hitting balls off his shoelace. He swings a 40-inch bat. That guy's impressive, man, I love it. - I think Patrick Wisdom said he would do that for us. - He did. - If he got a walk in that one specific series. And the third question, do players get annoyed having to sing, take me out to the ballgame? - Every game during the regular season. It seems like that would be an annoying song. Like, imagine you at your office if you had to sing a song every day at work. - All right, so that would be the chair one. - Yeah, the chair one, yeah. - I was gonna go over the second question until you read that one. - Yep. - I mean, does he think that we sing along? - I think he might. (laughing) So I think you might think that, yeah. - No, no, man, like, there's nothing worse than when somebody does a poor job. - Yeah. - Do you guys notice that? - Hell yeah. Who was it that came to rigging? - Ow, it's Cooper. - Yeah, yeah. - Former co-worker, Vars. - You know, I, and again, like if you, not everybody's got a good voice, but it was just, it was the way that it felt like, she wanted it to. - She was like, kind of mocked that, yeah. - It was a slight, it was a slight mock job. - Yeah. - So, like that kind of stuff hurts me sometimes, but again, like, If you get the opportunity to sing a stretch, like, you're going to do it how you want. And I mean, you know, I don't get annoyed by this song just because I'm, I mean, they're really pissed about getting out before. And I'm like, all I can do is rerun the, the, the, the bad or whatever. Or I'm pretty pumped or say is making some funny faces at me in the right field. All right. Wait. So follow up, Chey question. I'm going to follow up the Chey question with the Chey question. Will you sing it at some point this year? Just to test it out. Running out to center field. Yeah. Or if you're coming to, you know, if it's at home, you don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like, would you, would you consider maybe just one time and you let us know how it goes? Yeah. Sing along for sure. Okay. For sure. I end of one. You have to start saying, end of one. All right. End of two. And I got to finish with. Yeah. Let's, let's get some runs. Let's get some runs. Yeah. You say that to the boys in the dugout. Yeah. Let's get some runs. Get them going up. All right. They're asking for runs. You know what? You know, my, my favorite, we, we all do this in the dugout is when they do the hefty hefty. Yes. The whole dugout in unison and hefty. It's great. I, I like, I dream about like, I think my, my two dream jobs, and I have a dream job. So I shouldn't, shouldn't like, say this, but my two dream jobs would be the host surprises, right? And then being a baseball bench coach. So like, not the manager. Yeah. Because it feels like the, the, the dugout, and I guess it's game to game. It feels like the best hang ever. Is it? It's pretty great. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like I, I, I wasn't like the, the best guy to be around the last three days, but for the most part, the dugout is, it's, it's like such a place where you can just kind of tune out in a way. Yeah. But the bench coach, I don't know if you're ever really just hanging as the bench coach. Like, oh, and if I was a bench coach, that's what you just be. I'd be a vibes bit guy. Yeah. Yeah. Just like trying to pump up the boys, maybe doing the, like the shoe on fire thing. Yeah. Yeah. You'd be the, the prank guy. Yeah. I don't think a bench coach's ever been the prank guy. You never know. Yeah. I think he can't just invent into a job for himself. Yeah. Ben's coach is what he would envision his job to be. Yeah. Just like hang. Just good hang. Yeah. Just hang out. I think every dugout could use some of that. Yeah. A hang guy. I think every dugout could use a hang guy. Okay. What about it? Yeah. What about a first base coach? What does the first base coach do when they're not taking your gloves, giving you the sliding bit? There areses on the iPad looking at like set times and times the home plate, pick off moves. He does a lot of work like, you know, I don't really know what he's doing during the inning, but that guy is like on the computer all day all night. Like, what can we, what edge can we get on this guy when it comes to like, like I was saying about guys who have really fast times the plate, like all of the Kansas City Royals, it's like he's looking for one thing, like a lean or something like Kershaw. You remember how Kershaw always had like that funky slide step? Yeah. He always leaned into it and you could, you know, there's just shit like that that that the first base coach looks for, but my first base coach gives me that it sometimes because he wraps like all of my gear really tight and he makes my batting gloves all crouched up and crumbled. So I got an issue with that. You got to tell him. I think he's got to be honest with him, but he's done it all year. Oh, yeah. Now the superstitions. I don't need him to, I just have the bat boy, the me and the batboy are, he knows to unfrozen. Are you afraid that you're going to hurt his feelings? If you're like, hey, can you, can you fold my gloves differently? Yeah. Cause it's like, dude, why don't you tell me? I thought you liked him. Like, yeah, when dad does laundry and you're like, that's not how mom used to I should, I should just have an honest. Yeah. I should. Maybe now you are. Maybe this is how that might be worse though. He's like, I had to find out about this in a pod. Yeah. I know the first thing I'm doing when I get to the field. I'm going to be going to, you want to get out of this I got two, two questions that we're doing the dumb question portion. So I got a guy who's helps me with prep VP, a big cat corp shout out him. He's, he's been helping me for like a decade now. He's got, he's a Cubs fan and he's got two sons nine and 12 who are the biggest PCA fans. So he, he wrote me two questions. It's like, hey, this is your chance. So this is from is verbatim. It's from Hank the nine year old. How did you know that you could have power to hit home runs and have you always hit home runs like when you were younger? I didn't hit very many homers when I was younger at all. Like I, I was that little slappy. I'm going to shoot the five six hole. I can hit a nice little good looking line drive in the left center gap. But then like my senior high school, I kind of like tapped into some more power. I just didn't know how to swing prop. Like I didn't know how to pull the ball properly. And that's not really even something I figured out until last year. So I always knew that I was like baseball strong. Like I'm not really that strong otherwise. But I always knew that I could hit balls very flush and far. But I would say it was like 2022 or three. So like my first or second year of pro ball where I was like I got some juice. So that's a good answer because I I'm just inferring here. I don't know Hank the nine year old. But I'm guessing he probably doesn't hit a lot of home runs. He's wondering when he can start hitting home runs. So come later. You're nine years old. Yeah. Yeah. I hit my first home run around nine. Okay. So you're behind Hank. Not really the same age. He's turned 10, man. All right. And then Reed asked, he's 12. He said, what is better stealing a bass or hitting a triple? I'd say steel on a bass. Triples like triples are pretty rewarding. But I feel like usually like you don't hit triples like very hard. Like yeah, it's a weird bounce or something. Yeah. Absolutely. Especially at rigly like I've snuck so many balls like off the end of my bat down the line. I'd say stealing bags because I think it's more of like a I think it's more of a demoralizing thing for pitcher catcher combo like that they just gave that up. Like you're going to give up hits as a pitcher. So you know, if you give up a two out triple, it's still two outs and it's the same thing as a guy being on second base. Yeah. I'd say stealing bags. Stealing third base specifically is probably the most rewarding way to steal a bag. Yeah. I've got one dumb one and then one that I think isn't dumb, but maybe it is dumb. So you can tell me and then we'll get back to regular questions. Yeah. Actually, the entire interview is just cool. Yeah. I mean, you could get the vibe. You know, you know, you know us with dumb guys. Do you change the way that you play defense at rigly field given when the ivy grows in? That's a that's a that's not your dumb question. No, what were you about to say? You're about to say to what question? No, that was actually a pretty cool question. I've never heard of that. I don't think that was dumb at all. No. I don't. I don't. I'm still thinking about this though. That's maybe the best answer. That's a great answer for a cool question. No, because because like the the ball. I guess like specifically, I would play balls off the wall differently. Yeah. Like early in the year when the ivy is non-existent. But you still get some pretty like hard bounces off the off the brick, even when the ivy is in full full form. I definitely feel a little more comfortable going into the ivy when there's more of it than when there's none of it. That could also get you in trouble because it looks welcoming. And then you kind of forget, oh, shit, there's brick behind there. Yeah, it's it's not like so cushy as it looks. It's you find the brick pretty fast. And then but when there's no ivy and it's just the roots and the branches or whatever, that shit hurts. Yeah. I've been cut up and some comfort for sure. Yeah, cool answer. That was a good question. Cool. Cool question. The other question I had was after the Dodger series. I saw like some of the interviews that you did right afterwards where your answer was like, that was pretty cool. But you know, ultimately it doesn't mean much until we play them in the playoffs. But was there a part of you that after that? Like it did something to the belief that the team has where it's like, we can beat, you know, the best teams in baseball and we don't need to be scared of them when it is time to playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that series really did that for because excluding excluding Tokyo last year, like we we had the season series against them. I think four to two. So we've always loved like going and playing those guys the same way we love going and playing the Brewers because they got the best they got the best staff in baseball and Milwaukee does. So like they're honestly as much as it pains me to say like they're a really fun team to play against and just to kind of appreciate. And as are the Dodgers, like they have the best player of all time on their team and then you got I mean, you got at least three Hall of Famers on the field at one time with Shoei, Freddie, Mookie. So I don't I don't think we'd ever needed to like prove to ourselves that like we could hang with them or that we would want to see like we we we want to see whoever it is in October. Yeah. And you know, yeah, we love playing those teams. Those are some of the easiest these games get up for and really. Lock in for us. It's like a it's like a precursor to October baseball. Yeah. Yeah, like I mean the game on Monday night felt like a playoff atmosphere really did like I I was feeling it and like I had the same nerves as a playoff game Absolutely. Yeah, that's what you guys create. They're like that's what and it's not the same at every stadium But but that's what fans help us with and do for us is yeah You know, if there was nobody in the bleachers like that still be a crazy game to be a part of because we're all we're all competitors, but like You know, that's what you want to that's what you want to be playing in front of also I did see your quote about the fight the bleachers good catch at the end, right? Yeah, I mean I mean it is unfortunate shouldn't fight in games, but there was competitive like there were being competitive out there Yeah, dude the whole I were you in the field for that? Yeah, yeah, the whole stadium stopped and like looked out there telling me I was right there with them. It was crazy. I could I could hear skin on skin. Yeah That was the upsetting part to me. I was like man like You know, I again, I'm all for like the the trash talking between fan bases and all that stuff But I'm like no you're a loser if you fight in a and approach especially there's nothing to do like what are you doing man? Especially into bleachers. Yeah, like no fighting in the bleachers. I saw a fight last year I feel like Philly was here, but it was just this it was this one dude He looked like a former lineman. He was massive. He was taking on everyone, but There was like a solid eight rows of people that all fell. Yeah, right during kids out there Yeah, it's we're getting picked up and carried out. Yeah, it's like that's that's where I'm Slightly upset by that. Yeah, I think it's not so exciting. I Like watching a good scrap sometimes. Yeah, we UFC. Absolutely. We got that saying shit. Let's not get the saying Yeah, we need like the like a message on the jumbo charm like I'm peak girl. I'm sure I'm no fighting in the bleachers Yeah, that'd actually be funny. That would that be good. I loved left field after that too because they they'd started the the right field So yeah, oh yeah, that's that's how you handle that and it was going back and forth All right, I got so last time I think you did a podcast was a couple weeks ago with Chris and Cavalry. I have a I I think you got your your stories mixed up probably did okay, so the Dinosaurs don't exist. Yeah, Babe Ruth was maybe Dominican What that's the that's it. I haven't heard that one. Yes. Wait you said you said babe who doesn't exist All right, all right, so I'm sure y'all will find the the whole clip but and again if I'm just completely blown smoke here forgive me I did I don't buy into the conspiracy so I feel like I did my due diligence and I I At least started it off with I don't really believe in conspiracies But if I had to find one funny, it would be this. Yeah, so if I'm gonna save my own ass here. Yeah is that like that's fair That would be funny. I would really if paper didn't exist I'll be hilarious. I think that would be like the craziest folklore of all I'd agree of all time hundred percent of grace So for the dude that did say it on a podcast to come out and say that I was like that's Pretty fucking funny. Yeah, that's ballsy. Yes, and funny. So I was like well shit I'm not in front of a baseball crowd like yeah, and then of course everybody. Yeah, everyone took it But yeah, I the it's dinosaurs don't exist Carl Everett had a belief that if you didn't see it with his own eyes, it didn't exist I'm like Helen Keller might not have been totally blind. Yeah, there's that one or Stevie Wonder's not blind But yet Babe Ruth being Dominican is like a real theory online. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I will I will get some yeah some literature for you. Yeah, to Perus Yeah, yeah, yeah, the PMT book god of this gets me so wait for the record. Oh listen We say the best part about this show is we say the dumb stuff. Gun just have to sit there Did Babe Ruth exist? Did he walk this earth? Yeah, I would I would assume that he did like Okay, we're not we're not all the way there yet, but like Carl Everett All right, gun to your head if you had it uh Let's say a T-Rex 400 at bats in a season. How many home runs is he hitting zero? Oh, yeah, it's correct Okay, zero. She doesn't have the wingspan. Yeah, you don't find a bat that works for that. Yeah, the strikes on that Okay, okay, yeah, the strike. Yeah, the strike zone would be massive Yeah, the arms would not be conducive to a good baseball swing Yeah, it would be the best you get by a lot of pictures though What's he proud of the plate what dinosaur would be the best at baseball? I think the one the anglia source the one that's got the tail that's the club just use that as a bat Oh that dad. Oh, yeah, that's the anglia source. Yeah, that got rock that really come on Yeah, I did it with its low-heavy body for a solid batting stance in a massive club tail They can swing so they would use they would even use a bat. Yep uses tail tie strikes own damn I don't know I've been go I've been going to a lot of museum That might not have existed that's the only problem tear dactyl is number two What do they say about a velociraptor? I feel like pinch runner. All right. I got I got the it's the tear dactyl chew I think raptors got a lot of good PR from Jurassic Park movies I've read some more that they might not have they weren't even that big like they were the size of like a dog Yeah, but yeah, but in the movies they're kind of getting make these things are awesome We got to get this updated because it says tear dactyl would be Defensively gifted because it can fly it would have Kevin Kiermeier S. Grange and centerfield that should be p-crossed armstrong We can we can still give that to KK okay, he's he was he was the he was the shit All right, and the apatosaurus It was tipping skills as at as many as 33 tons the apatosaurus is one of the largest dinosaurs of all time Use this huge tail as a whip to deter predators making it the rough equivalent of Prince Fielder, but with better bat speed Wow, yeah, no shit. They're kind of taking a shot on that. Yeah, damn. How much did that thing wait? 33 tons. That's yeah, that's kind of means What was it like on on on measurement day? We're like hey, we got to measure you for the strike zone You I mean, we literally did it like during during camp Just went to the weight room. They had the MLB people come in. He had to like lock your legs out You'd actually you'd you'd rather them Mark you shorter than I think you are so like a lot of egos were hurt, but at the same time like it's better It helps you out. Yeah, I don't want to point any fingers I think I think Breggman might have heard the most did you see that? I think he was listed as like six one or six feet And he's five nine. Listen, I'm five nine. We can't be we can't be out there telling people that were six feet tall I don't know how you do it. I mean He didn't he didn't need the extra two inches. The guy 30 playoff homers like right But yeah, he's not he's not six feet You should just say yeah, you know, I tricked a system. Yeah, I stood in a way that made me look shorter Yeah, so he's playing like 3d chess. Absolutely. Yeah, well, I mean Yeah, I know you got to run in a minute. There's been so much fun. I got a couple last questions So your dad grew up with Cubs fan. How is he just like text you every now and then just being like I love you even more now Because like that what a what a crazy story to have Your dad is a Cubs fan and now you're the best player on the Cubs like that's crazy. Yeah he's I appreciate him because he's he keeps his emotions to himself like He was geeking when I got traded. He was I was rehabbing in Florida and he was in town him and my mom just to visit and So like I found out in the car on the way to lunch and they had already been there so I think my dad like He excused himself from the table Right before I got there and like had a little moment for himself, and I think that's if I That's how I'll put the last few years, right? It's just that like he I don't think I think he knows I don't I don't want it to be anything bigger than like I'm just if I was a national I'd hope you'd feel the same way right, but you know deep down, but I think I think deep down He's he's having a really good time. Yeah, like you have siblings, right? No, oh you don't have a son It's gonna say you're you're the favorite child. You're the favorite. I mean that would have been easy one Yeah, yeah only and favorite and it also is crazy like the seren like I want to say serendipity But hobby bias you get traded for hobby bias. Hobby bias was maybe the most electric cub in the like you know that stretch Absolutely, and then you're the most electric cub and it's like it's just so cool And it's like have you had those moments where like I watched the world series of my dad I watch hobby bias and then I got traded for To the cops. Yeah, I yeah Yeah, that I Yeah, I don't know how to talk about it really cuz it's crazy cuz it is crazy. That was my favorite player. Yeah That was my favorite player by far. I I remember trying to hit like him in the cage. I remember God, I remember just I'd like him. Yeah guy. I remember his first homer and cures like He just he was the most exciting thing to ever happen to my childhood probably because I was just I was all about sports and I did not believe it when when I found out really But yeah, I got to meet him last year. I got to say thank you for Just existing cuz that's that's why I'm here now. Yeah That guy was the shit like he was he was the coolest. I don't love like baseball tattoos But if anybody but he's gonna have the MLB logo on their neck. - Yeah. - It's that motherfucker. - His love for the game, right there. - Yeah, yeah. - It didn't get it before he got to Major League Baseball. - I think so. - Yeah, that's awesome. - Yeah. - He did. - All right, last couple of questions. First one, can you put on the headphones real quick? So, I have a question for Pete that is related to Max R. Producer. Max is a really good baseball player. He was the Matt Stairs of the CAA, played at Hofstra, nobody deal. We went and did batting practice at Riggly. He was like, maybe like eight feet from going out. He's 11. - The wind was blowing in. Do you have any tips for him? - I think it was 20 miles an hour in from right feet. - Yeah, it was the day that I ate the sunflower seed. You said, what did you think, by the way, when you saw that clip, but you're like, that's kind of weird? - No, I kind of thought that that was some shit that I would do too. - Yeah, it's respect. And by the way, you said at least it wasn't my dip. I would take your dip, so. - I wouldn't let you do that. I just want it on the breakfast. - I've been eating grass at every cool stadium that we go to. Just one piece of grass, so I need to tie your stadium like in Death Valley and LSU. Ain't that grass? Riggly grass is, I think it's the tastiest. - This is the first time hearing of this. You've been doing this? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I've noticed it. - I've noticed it. - That's pretty good. - It's really fucked up when we go to synthetic fields. - Yeah, I try. - You just eat the rum or pellets. - Yeah, but I eat it and then I go to the bathroom. - Have you done any soccer fields yet? - I don't know that I've done a soccer field grass. - That is good grass. - That's good grass. - You've done golf courses? He does every golf course he plays that? - Yeah, I think Riggly field has the tastiest grass of any stadium that I've been in. - Shout out Dan Kiermeier, actually Kevin. - Yes. - Kevin, brother. - Shout out Dan. - Ground screw. - All right, Max. Max, yeah. Help Max out. - All right, when the wind's blowing in, you got two choices and it's to go at either scoreboard 'cause it just blocks the wind. Wind could be blown in 40 and if you hit it low enough at the left field of scoreboard, it's gonna go out if you hit it low enough at the right field of scoreboard. It's gonna go out. - That's good tip. - I was just trying to go down the line. That's a good tip. - Yeah. - Yeah, you just got a yank, bro. It's when the wind's blowing in, you just went in doubt. - You got a yank. - You got a yank. - Yeah, yank it. - You were yanking. - I liked that. All right, and then last question. Rowback question, R-H-O-B-E-C-K dot com. - Yeah. - promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers shorts, rowback dot com, Zach, you ready? - How are you doing today? - Quick question, that's cool to you. When we're sitting in the stand as fans, we see you go absolutely yard it wriggly. We know that's gotta be an insane feeling for you, but population percentage wise, none of us are gonna experience that. Very minimal. Some guys get close, like eight to 10 feet. But is there a common man's feeling you can closely compare it to? - Yeah. - I would say like making an eagle in three perfect shots. - Okay. - I think I related to that 'cause like I'm grindin' my ass off trying to play golf, you know? Like that's some rewarding, that's some rewarding shit. So like that or like when like a dog really likes you and the owner said that they weren't, they don't like anybody. - Yeah, I like that. - You know? - Yeah, that's a good one. - Good feeling. - I was gonna say like the hitting like the last shot and beer pong twice, we're in the game. That feels good. - Sure. - Yeah, no rebuttal. - Yeah, no rebuttal feels good. You feel like a man in that moment. - Yeah, maybe like a real life 2K green bean. Like you hit that perfect three on 2K. - Yeah, yeah. - Okay. - I like my dog one though, I think. - The dog one is relatable. Yeah, whereas like oh this dog's not friendly. It's like just likin', just like loving you and just nuzzlein' up. - Yeah, my buddy's uncle had like a rotwiler puppy and he was frickin' huge and he kind of had him just like a guard dog so he'd always be leached up out in the backyard and he was like you can go like look at him if you want and I was like nah, I got this and next thing you know, like you can't get rid of me, I can't get rid of him and I would say it's like that. - It's a great feeling. - That's a great feeling. - Can you bat flip after that? - Like after, walk it off, yeah. - Maybe a bone for the dog? - Yeah, flip a bone. - Yeah, treats into the moon. - Yeah, or you just walk off and play your, me and my boys always talked about, if we had like one song to have like a walking montage in a movie or something like what would it be? I would just start playing that song and just walk off, all cool. - Wait, what song? - I don't know what mine would be, but if you could have like one song in like a movie montage of like the shit's blowing up behind you and you're walking off in slow-mo, like what would that song be? That's a conversation me and my friends have a lot. - That's a good Mount Rushmore. - Yeah, we should do it, we'll do it. - Free Bird. - That's good. - Free Bird is, is probably a pretty popular choice. I like that one, it's a good one. Well, Pete, thank you so much for coming in, man. Mass out, man. I'm on the front lines, I hope you know. I hope you see me on the front lines. - I do. - It sucks, 'cause I do have to get like, we do it every now and then, but I have to get a little dirty and I have to slander, but that's fine. Sometimes you gotta slander when you're in an MVP race. You know, you gotta just, you just gotta go out and just start bad. We gotta do some negative publicity stuff. - I'll tell you that I appreciate that behind the scene. - Yeah. (laughing) - You cannot condone it. - No, I actually feel like so. I love getting in like a season long debate and just like, I'll just win 'em board. I'll just fire it up and be like, here's some PCA stats, here's some Show Hey stats. Like, debate me. Like, come on, let's go internet. - That gets you off, man. - Yeah, yeah, and hopefully we win the debate. But yeah, you're the man. Thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. - Thank you guys. - PCA was brought to you by TickPick. Brought to you by TickPick, the good guys of Ticketing. TickPick is the no nonsense ticket app. It's always been, always will be fan first. Let's talk about the ticket fees for a second. Every other ticket site charges them. Service fees, processing fees, whatever the label. It's an extra 20, 30 bucks of ticket. TickPick doesn't do that. They've never charged fans of service fee. 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It's actually, I got a little teary eyed reading through the table of contents and being like, why the fuck did any of these people like agree to do this? It's pretty damn cool. So thank you. Would you say this is the dumbest book you will be part of? Oh, no, no. I don't think that. I, well, there's a few things I have to say of what you just said right there. First of all, it was publicly shamed into writing the forward to your book because it was about a year ago. Yeah. I think we had the Bears Week 1 against the Vikings and I came to your studio and you basically on the air or whatever the internet asked me if I would write the forward. Now, I'm, what I'm going to say, no, it takes an hour, maybe, maybe not that long. And so I did it. I'm glad I did it. No, it's not the dumbest book that, that I could be associated with. I'm excited to do it. And the answer to your question is why would any of these people agree to do any of this because we don't want you to pricks to turn on us. True. What's your point? What's your point? Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm keeping you close, so I can do a little bit of work to keep you guys on my side if you're there. And, you know, we just go forward in life. That's actually, I mean, it's totally fair. Like one hour of your time to get us to not turn on you and attack you. That's a good trait. I think it is. I mean, I think you make trades in life. You're constantly bartering. And the one thing that I have to barter with with you guys is my time. And I gave you an hour or so. And tell me the name of your ghost writer, or are we allowed to say that? Matthew, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Matthew is really talented. And so I, I actually dictated all of this into my notes. I wrote a page and then I said, you know what, this is too slow. I don't want to give this much time. And I dictated it into my voice notes, sent it to him. He crafted it. I re-crafted it. That's what came out in the wash. He's fantastic. I'm actually because it's him. I'm very excited to read this book. And get kind of a peek behind the curtain even more with the two. Yeah, yeah, well, we appreciate it Joe. Thank you very much for your time and for doing that It means a lot also because we can put your name on the cover and that's our that's our trick like to everybody out there That's thinking about writing a book You should just network until you have people that are in your circle that you can ask to write your own book for you Under threat of turning on them and turning their lives into an online hell afterwards. That's the best way to write a book Mm-hmm if you roll the tape backward the last person I wrote a forward for in their book is already lying Okay, okay. All right. Yes, so I went from the debacle on HBO With the Jill Buck slash Arty Langshoe it was canceled after nine minutes to Then getting to have a friendship and relationship with Arty who's fantastic. I knew he would be I we he's got his demons and they're well documented but I he asked me that that's how far we got in our relationship to where he said well I'm coming out with my second book would you write the forward and the answer was obviously yes, so It goes Arty Lang then you guys and then I I don't know who could possibly be next Well, I mean when we do it a sequel to our book you'll have to do that as well Yeah, pardon my book again and we're right to forward to your book if you want us to yeah That's an open invite to you you right like one everyone yeah, yeah every two years you write one I actually have a question about the and we asked we we did an episode way back Where we talked about the Joe the famous Joe Buck episode we had Arty laying on we had Paul right on So in this book in our book we talk about our pursuit for TV and we were on ESPN for one day one episode When you were getting pitched the Joe Buck show was it was it in your head? You're like yeah, you know what I do need a TV show because we going through the process of writing this book We kind of revisit it and then like man were we stupid to think Yeah, you know what we do need a TV show like that's what we do like that's that's what yeah We need a part in my take show like that's how it works with did you have something similar where you're like Yeah, I need a Joe Buck show of course. I so Ross Greenberg forever had been talking to me about wanting to do a show and Bob Costas had stepped away and so it was an obvious You know, I was filling in for his show. I wanted to take it in a very different Direction and so when I was you know in talks with Ross It's got to be edgy. It's got to be fun. It's got to be funny I mean, I know how you guys do stuff at HBO and it's very high brow and it's very well done And you know, you kind of set the standard for a lot of these magazines show certainly with sports Would would you be open to doing that and the answer was yes and and in fact I was the one that that was adamant about getting already On the show Because it was a big stern fan And I knew he was a big sports fan Rud Was a long-time friend and then he kind of Wrangled Sudakis onto that David Keckner was a part of this kind of last comedy piece It was a great lineup Sudakis wasn't really Sudakis yet And you know, Rud was Rud and then I said we got to have already on to have some edge and and the stories old by now But I went into him before I met him before we walked out on stage and I said hey, man I want you to let me have it. I want you to come at me. I want you to have fun I want this to be just kind of nuts here at the end Little did I know as he admitted in that book that I wrote the forward to that he snorted I could in and drank Jack Daniels before he came out there. I wasn't aware of that minor detail Yes, and then it kind of went off the rails, but I'm glad I did it and when when that whole thing came down I remember being on that we probably have done this probably this is the exact interview we've done before but I remember walking off the stage and it was just kind of like it was just Like a pregnant pause kind of it was hanging in the air Now what because that was like the end of it's like all right. Good. I'd see you in a month or whatever we're doing the next one and And then I went right out and talked to the writers who were going to review it And the guy from the New York Times said to me, uh, Joe, do you feel like you just got cornhold on national TV? At the time times yeah cornholds are made of times use the word cornhold I swear to god I can roll that back in my mind and then the New York, uh, the New York Post guy the stringer for the New York Post said something like Uh Is TMZ really your favorite website. I was like we're done We're not like this. This is not going anywhere good But but at the time I thought you know, if this were on Fox and it was David Hill in charge He would have kind of charged out there like pt. Barnum like this is what you're gonna get on The show you're never to like embrace it and and to me it was like everybody ran and hid which I hated yeah And that's why I I basically Tom Cruise jumped on the couch saying already laying is coming on the second show or I'm not I'm not doing it if already doesn't come on and he did our cold open I had to talk to the head of HBO Richard Plepler. This is a long boring story, but I had to basically say look I've already got a day job I'm already I'm being hit by already lang jokes every time I walk into stadium Let let let him come back on yeah, let's have fun with it. Yeah, and and let's And and and and if you don't let me do it then I'm just gonna quit and they let me do it. I'm glad they did And uh, I struck up a friendship with already who apologize and I said no need I told you to do that and and we all go forward in life But I I'm glad I did all that and I feel like you learned There's no way you guys don't look back at that time on on that show and go there's something you learned again And beyond just the you know, we shouldn't have done the show on ESPN or whatever it was There's something that you took from that that made you better today and and there's no doubt that applies to to HBO and me for sure Yeah, yeah 100% and at that New York Times reporter had done their job They would know that TMZ is not your favorite website already said what your favorite website was Yes, I don't know if it was C or the D word but idea I it was it was one of the two but it was like okay This is what we're doing got it. Yeah, I think I'm good. I got to go to the bathroom up and out here for an hour Yeah, it was great But you said in and we talked about it in the book like the D I have I have a great job outside of this I don't need the you know like it this doesn't make or break me that was the big lesson we learned when we did the TV show It's like oh shit like what people are gonna listen to us whether we have a TV show or not. Why do we why do we care about this anymore? Yeah, and yeah, and I think you know for me had had all that transfer if you go I think that was like 2009 somewhere in there If it's 2026 and that trend I might be in a different place With already lying but I sat there in my mind every time the director great director mark Peyton shot me I can just I wasn't when I watch it. I can watch my mind turning like do I jump down in here with him because I'm gonna lose Yeah, but I'm gonna try to stand up for myself or Am I just gonna sit here and grin and and fake smile and just hope it ends soon and you know and and You just I think I would maybe do it differently today. Maybe I would I don't know But I I think you you learned from all that stuff and I'm not saying this is true for every TV show But I have noticed over the years that a lot of even the most successful TV shows They end up hating doing television Towards the end of the run if not like as they're actively putting out great TV So like sign felt walked away when it was the biggest show on earth shapel walked away Bigger show on earth the game of throwing people hated doing that show by the end of it by that last season and it kind of showed at the end Um, I just think that what we learned from is that we have a great thing going right here do the podcast and so why we don't have to do a TV Show just because that might be on you know and in airports or in gyms across the country Um, we've got a great thing here. Let's not strive for what we have the grass is not It's usually not greener than it is in front of you. So yeah, I know And it's a different world now too. I mean that that when you do that when when you did that when I did the HBO thing It that's a long time ago now and the media has evolved and this is you're doing a TV show you're you're already doing it Yeah, you know, it's if you want to go mainstream I was excited to be on HBO I would still be excited to be on HBO. I love a lot of those guys are still really good friends of mine And and the frustrating thing for me was after all that thing came out or that that kind of that debacle happened I asked them about the ratings and like oh no, the ratings were really good and actually the rating went up during the hour And I said well, can you put that out? Yeah, right They said no, we don't really talk ratings at HBO. I was like well, can you make an exception? Then we can we have one thing in our column That's good and the answer was no, so I I would do it again It would be different, but I would kind of want to do the same show weirdly enough and uh and I kind of like that stuff Even though it probably didn't work out in my favor. Uh speaking of ratings wait who has the super this year We do oh really oh, yes. Oh, I haven't heard you guys hadn't told us uh, yeah, I I assume that's why you were Do are you are you NFL merchant when it comes to ratings, do you, you know, you, you basically just get to ride the NFL for all your ratings, you, do you open up the ratings, you see the ratings the next day and you're like, did it again, Joe Buck, Monday, football, another hit. Yeah. Cause I know they're all tuning in to go, what's he going to say, honey, gather, get the kids. It's Joe and Troy. No. I mean, do I look? Yeah. I want, I want my bosses to be happy. I want the people who pay a lot of money to the NFL to be thrilled that we got a great rating. But I'm also not of the mind of like, you know, I, I affect that. I think the only time maybe if the game is a blowout and we're having fun, a few people may stick around, but maybe not. So I don't, I am not delusion. Are you, are you, you've called NFL for a very long time, actually saw, I think it's the longest, my 33rd year, I saw the longest punt return. I think it was, uh, was a saints game from like late 90s. And it was you on the call and I was like, Oh my God. That's Joe Buck. Cause you, you're voice a little higher and it's just like holy shit. He's been calling us for a long time, 30 to 25, but yeah, I was just out of the wool. Yeah. Is it, uh, are you shocked at all like that, the NFL, do you ever think it was going to get to this level where it's like, it's just when they, when they do the top 100 shows of the year, it's like, maybe there's a one Olympic event and, and the Oscars. And then the 28, it's, yeah, it's between like 88, the only gap is like, there's 12 shows right literally that aren't football related. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Well, no, I'm, I'm glad it's gotten to this point. I think if it was at this point back then, the growth has been exponential, been incredible. I think if it was at this point back then, I probably wouldn't have gotten a chance at 25 to do, uh, major network football. Um, when that call went out and David Hill and Goren, you know, they paid all that money for some role in Madden, they had a great number two team Stockton and Mad Millen. And then it was like, Hey, we're going to give a bunch of people who we haven't seen on network TV forever a shot. Are there any famous announcers who have kids? And, uh, it was like me and Kenny Albert and bread him in and brought, and Kevin Harlan. And I mean, it was, it was kind of crazy that all of us had a dad who was involved somehow already in either broadcasting or football media in the case of Kevin Harlan. But we all showed up there like, what in the hell are we doing here? Let's figure this out together. Uh, I was with Tim Green, who was just off the field and had never done any TV. I had never done football, uh, but we fumbled our way through it. So to speak, the first couple of years and, and then you learn and grow just like we were taught, that's what this business is all about is just kind of trial and error and fake it till you make it. I don't know if you've seen any of the like uploaded footage from the 1999 2000 NFL seasons online, but I, there's a conspiracy out there. They make the broadcast look way worse than it was at the time. Like if you, if you look up a 1999 NFL game, it looks like it's straight out of the 70s, the way that you see it on YouTube. I watched those games are massive, uh, it looks grainy. Yeah. Yeah. But I watched those games. They, they look good at the time. It did not look like that. They're trying to make us feel old by having like, I think you may be miserable. Just remembering as a famous person once said, I, I, yeah, I think, you know, with high definition TV, I remember being in telecom classes. If you go back to my college days, like back in 89 and 90 and they're like, man, when this high definition TV comes and they had the, they had the technology, they were just worried about rolling it out because it would force everybody at the time who would force everybody to buy new hardware, new TVs. And it was like, it's going to, with this is going to be the way of the future. But it is. I, I assume that in the late 90s, we were not in high definition, Vill, it, it, that's what it looked like. That's how different our brains and eyes are now watching games with this crystal clear picture. Like you're there. Uh, I, I, I do think that's kind of how it looked. I'm sorry to say. So, um, I was, look at the ratings from the World Cup this summer. Were you rooting against the World Cup ratings? So you could say like one day football is still king. Uh, even boy, I never thought of it in those terms. I would be. Yeah. I would be right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were, yeah. You were, yeah. You were, yeah. You were, yeah. You were waiting on the wire. You put the words on for Neil. Soccer. Am I supposed to say soccer and football against football? I, no, I don't. I got swept up in the, uh, in the US mania until it came crashing down with a thud in that final, uh, in that final effort. But yeah, I was sitting in front of my TV night after night with my eight-year-old boys watching soccer, which is something that I had never done prior. So I was, I was a new fan, definitely. And now we're back to real football, thankfully, Monday night, preseason football. Yes. That's, that's what we're back for. Can't wait to see it. It's a death truck that you had there. It may be wonder, is it harder to call preseason games than it is to call regular season game because you have to know the third, fourth stringers? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to act like, you know, as I go through this list, if you get down to the third string offensive lineman, that's somebody that I know, uh, every twist and turn of their career to this point. And I think the fun of it is being able to kind of pull back and look at the league at times, look at the division that they're in. We've got an AFC South team playing an AFC West team. I'm sure at some point we're going to look at Kansas City in Denver, who we have week one in the regular season schedule. I think it affords you, it's almost like doing a baseball all-star game. There's not a ton of strategy involved in this game. We're going to be doing on Thursday night. So you start looking for individual performances and everybody, somebody will stand out. And then you kind of ride that for a little bit, but then you go back to, okay, we're going to see my homes and next week one, how good Kansas City going to be, how good Denver going to be. And you can kind of take your focus off the game a little bit. And if somebody jumps up, you cover them and then you go back to what you're doing. So it's, there's a lot of names, a lot of numbers. I hope to get most of them right. And then you just try to have fun for three hours and point your way toward week one. Can I ask you a sports jeopardy question? Yeah, I'll get it wrong. No, no, no, I meant about sports jeopardy that you hosted. Oh, yeah, yeah, go, yeah, sure. Why did some of those people sign up? You have to ask them, I have no idea. That was some, I watched a couple episodes and there were, there were some people didn't know anything about sports. Well, I think I do think this in their defense and I would probably have been in the same category. I think the hard thing about jeopardy, it's like doing a crossword puzzle. You have to get into what they're really asking, you have to, you have to know kind of, you know, the rhythm of the clue, not a question that I give. If you sat down in a library with a number two lead pencil, you could probably come up with the answer, but when you're on the, on the stage and you have to hit the buzzer, if they hit the buzzer before I stop reading the clue, it, it freezes them out and they have to reset. So they're doing all that, they're listening to me as I hack my way through the clue. They're reading it on the board and I think it's, it's easy to get lost in what the clues actually asking for. I don't, if you could do it without the pressure, you could probably come up with the right answer. Yeah. I'm not a trivia, I'm not a trivia master by any stretch, terrible, terrible. But there was a couple like, it made me feel smart. Like I think there was one moment where it was just a picture of Mark Davis and it was like, who is this? And I was like, yeah, I know Mark Davis. You can spot that haircut from a mile away. So I felt like a genius. I was like, yeah, this is awesome. I'm so smart. Yes, I agree. And by the way, when I was reading the clue, I didn't realize what was on the screen because the board is kind of around. So there were some pictures to kind of help you along. Yeah. That I wasn't even aware we're up when I was doing it. But I, I think the fun of it, I hope, is that the people who didn't do really well had fun and laughed at themselves and laughed at each other. And I thought there was fun to be had between the contestants. Definitely. So, I mean, if you can't get the right answer, have fun given the wrong answer. And I felt like most people did that. Yeah, it's just like when we do a trivia leak here, like I hated doing it because I was like, would get things wrong and just be like, how did I get that wrong? Like, how did I not know that? And then you think of it later and you're like, God damn it, I'm so stupid. Can you do it? Uh, uh, uh, requesting from me since I did this and I broke the forward to your boss. Sure. Hi, it wasn't that hard of you to write that. Let's just. No, it's where you dictate. Yeah, you dictate. You call up our ghost writer, you said have that dictate. Yeah. Yeah. I, I mean, took 15 minutes for you to do. - You don't bother with dictate, I can't believe it. But on your Instagram. - Yeah. - When whoever that is is going around asking, like, "Hey, what logo does he has one coat?" - Can you put the friggin' answer further up and the thing so I don't have to watch the whole God didn't even come to the internet. - Oh, that's a trick, Joe. - Yeah. - That's a trick and then you gotta go in the comments to find the answer. - Oh my God. - I just wanna know, Joe, Joe knows I'm gonna set you off. - Joe, I'll send you on this case. - Every one of them, there's not one that doesn't send me, there's only a couple that I've never gotten right. - I'll send you on this gonna trigger you, Joe. There was, I think it was last week. He went around, chaps went around and was like, "What state is it?" It was Missouri and like half the office didn't get it. - Yeah. - It was just the idea of Missouri. Like, we're just getting so bad. - Oh, outline of the state. - Out of the state of Missouri and they're like, I don't know. (laughing) I mean, come on. - We're not the smartest group. - Aren't you in Illinois? - Yeah, no, no, listen, it doesn't make sense, but there is a, it's very funny because I think there's a divide. It's about the 25 year old and lower mark in this office. I don't think they ever took a geography class. Like, straight up did not take a geography class. - Well, straight up, I didn't either. And I went to a little prep school in St. Louis. And I remember when my daughter, my 27 year old was going through and she did geography at geography class. Like, I didn't know any of this. And it's not just the map, the United States, it's around the world. I was blown away by what's taught in geography class. We never had it. In the roaring 80s, I never had a geography class. And if you gave me all the states in the Northeast and the states in the Northwest, I would struggle. Middle of the country, I think I could do. - Yeah. - I was thinking about that the other day, 'cause I don't think I took a geography class either. I think if you know geography, it's mostly people that just like are interested in maps and spend their own time looking at a map, yeah. - Now, Michael's, that's that. So when the earthquake, World Series happened, part of the thing was he's brilliant at knowing he's a map guy. And maybe that's good for the brain. I hope that half is good as now, Michael's when I'm at that stage of my career, which I will not be, my career will be over by then. But I, he's a map guy. I've never heard of a map guy other than maybe Magellan. - Oh my goodness. - But, Michael's in Magellan. - The map guy. - The map guy. - Yeah. - I was like, sit around study and maps. I just know, that's, I know. That's when Netflix was created. - I mean, the map people in the office that guess Africa as a country in those things. That's always concerned for me. - Yeah. - It's every time. - Yeah. - I don't know, that kind of bleeds over from geography to like an understanding of the world. - Yes, correct. - Yes. There's that line of like, I'm bad at geography. It's like, no, no, do you even know like the seven continents? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think that's fair. - Yeah. - Uh-huh. - Truby is hard. - Truby is hard. - It's hard. - It's hard. - It's hard to be learned. - Yeah. - Truby is hard. - Truby is hard. - I got some of Antarctica. - Yeah, so I can't wait to see what awful announcing calls out of this. It's going to be, I can't wait to click on that website and see a recap of my HBO show. - I know, I think it's like PFT said, it's when you told our ghost writer, how's my dictate? That's it. That's my big take away from you. And he was like, he was really good, Joe. And you're like, you're damn right it was. You're goddamn right it was. You want to talk NFL? Just like a little bit of NFL this season? - Talk. - Because you do have the tour. - The touch. - Yeah. - What do you have? - Yeah, is it, Joe, is this, like, have you thought, 'cause you mentioned like you're not gonna be doing this when you're as old as Al. Have you thought about retired? Like when, what's the goal age for you to walk away? - No. - Stop talking. - I have so many financial obligations to family and friends. I'm not stopping any time. - Yeah. - That's good, that's good. - We're stuck with you. - That's a really good, 'cause like I have a kind of assembly, only motivating thing in my life is to satisfy the needs of family and friends. - Yeah. - Therefore, they will shove me out of the door and on to an airplane to go somewhere. - Listen, I'm not, in the book I did my 10 gambling rules, but like when people like, hey, when are you gonna slow down? It's like, when I have enough money that I can lose it all and then die. So like, I don't wanna lose it all. Like, you know, like, you're sure I'm dying. - Why are you gonna lose it? - Well, 'cause I'm a losing gambler. Like, what do you mean? I'm a losing gambler. - So gambling. - Yeah, I wanna have enough money so that I can, I can basically like, my last bet will be like, on my deathbed. It's like, there we go. Did it perfectly? - That would be an amazing example. - Yeah. - Preparation. - Is life-warming? - Yeah, it's a life-lived correctly, where it's like, all right, there it is. - We just go out the counters on zero. - Zero's all around. - The Texans didn't cover in that pre-season game. - Yeah. - That would be perfect. - How much a gambler debt do you have right now? How long is that gonna take for you to work your own? - Zero. - Thank God. - All right, good to know. - That's not my problem. My problem is. - Hair plugs. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Those are expensive. - I know. - We know, we read your book. - That's not a cheap endeavour. - Yeah. - So in my next life, I'm gonna come back 'cause I have a transplant surgeon. - Yeah, you should go to Turkey with our guys. We send a bunch of guys from our office to Turkey every single year. - Actually, like your Christmas present to your staff? - Yeah, I got a hack for it 'cause I got 'em too. You should get the people that do 'em to pay you to do 'em. If you say where you got 'em from. - Yeah, I've kind of, I've got dabbled on that. My guy's Parsemo happy in California. He's fantastic. - Joey, isn't that so funny that we've known each other long enough now that PFT has, we started this whole relationship making fun of your hair plugs and now he has hair plugs? - Well, we started this whole relationship with you making fun of the size of my forehead. So then I then took measures to try and shrink my forehead as long as you're addiction on big cats. - Yeah, that's not fair. - And also, sometimes I think you're winking at me. Confirm that. - I can't. - You know, I'm not telling you the truth. - I'm not telling you the truth. - That brief second when you welcome everyone in and you kind of give a little smirk. I think you know, we've all, we've come at the same time before. We've been, you smiled while I've been taking a picture of you. - Okay. - We're synced up. We're synced up. - We are synced up. We were sympathical with your roll-up picture taking and my, what was it? Snark with my wink, but what? - Yeah, you wink at me. You wink at me every now and then. - So castic, what was the word? - My off-putting wink. - Yeah, no, you have a nice little, you have a nice little like, hey, I know, I know, yeah. - Selling. - Yeah, welcome man. - Selling, welcome man. - Joe, can we make one quick wager with you on this year's football season because you will be calling the Super Bowl on ESPN? - What? - Yep, it's a fact. If the Bears or the commanders make the Super Bowl, can we, can we give you a line to sneak in? - Yes. - Oh. - Okay, okay, I love that. - It's gotta be, but okay. But it can't be absurd. - 'Cause I was good. It's gotta be absurd. - You're knee-jerk bear was so hot. - You were in here, you were like, yeah, sure. - And then you're like, hold on, wait a second. - Wait a second. - These guys might say something blue. - No, exactly. - Blue. There's a word here. Kids are here. - No, let me, I'm gonna, it's all within the same interview. It's gotta be something that's normal. That I typically say. - Like, let's say the Bears are playing the Chargers and the Bears are winning. You gotta be like, the Bears are effing the Chargers and the Beecheeks. - Or co-holing. - Yeah, oh, that's a word that's there and there. - What about, okay, so the command is on the Super Bowl and-- - You Joe, I love these. - And you said yes right away and then you're like, hold on a second, wait a second. - And you court cross-comers. - Yeah, no. - And you say-- - And then I was talking about-- - You're talking too. - Oh my God, they're gonna make me calm. But it's commanded, calm, C-O-M-M. - No. Okay. - All right, we'll workshop it. Hey, listen, if that day comes-- - And it goes right or come up with some possibility. - All right, Joe, last question, rollback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, Polo's, hoodies, jogger shorts, rollback dot com promo code take. Go by part of my book. I honestly like, Joe Buck might be the-- - You have to do that so that people don't jump through ads. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, no, it's always a rollback question. - So Joe, I got a great question. - And the final question, really most important question. - Rollback, is it? - Yeah. - No, I would say-- - Don't act like the NFL doesn't do that. - Yeah. - You guys are gonna have a label like Etna on the side of the blue injuries at this year, probably. - Hey, go see this movie real quick. All right, and back to first down. Yeah, come on, man. But no, it's just a Minions game. - It's just a Minions game. - It's a Minions game, Rob. I love the Minions game. - Did it, was it good? - Our relationship with Joe, though, I think it's like, the pit of me if I was like, hey, how would you describe how this stupid show has kind of come together? It's like, Joe Buck is like up there with the stories of guy who had no, you had no reason to come on this show. Came on the show, let us be idiots with you. You got, you know, a little bump from it. We got a huge bump from it, and then we became friends. And it's like, like that's why the show works 'cause we all kind of play together, yeah. - I agree. And it was eye opening to me. And as I've told you, every time I come on, everywhere I go in this country, people come up to me and mention you guys. And hey, I love you coming on the show. And it's awesome. So it was actually my honor. I am going to Barnes & Noble when we disconnect from this. - To sign what? - I'm just going to sit outside all day and I'm going to welcome everybody to Barnes & Noble. I'm going to buy a whole case of these things and hand them out. - You should sign a couple. That would be funny. - I go to Barnes & Noble and actually be like, hey, anyone who wants a part in my book in Colorado, signed by me, Joe Buck. That would be sick. - Yeah, that would be not my style, but I just to force my autograph on people. - Yeah, I know, Joe, I appreciate it. In fact, I give you or anybody else that's on the cover of this book. You can anytime you see the book, if it's an airport, sign your name. - Yep. - That's fine. - Yep. - I've done that. When my book was out, I'd go in and sign up. - That's a baller move. - Got arrested, wrestled to the ground one time. - I love it. - All right, Zach, real quick. Last question, give it to Joe. - How you doing, Joe? Did have a quick question. If you were to get back in your own personal book game, what are your thoughts on Big Hat and PFT right in the forward? - Oh, God, yeah. - You don't want that. - No, I know I do. That would be more my audience. I think that's a great question. So if I do, which I won't, would you commit right now to writing the forward to my second book called Lucky Bastard Part II, still lucky and still a bastard? - Oh, yeah. All right, four words. - I'm gonna say yes, but in Spanish. - No Spanish. - Just say Ola. - Yeah. - The four words in Spanish. - Hey, back, I get. - Ola de Libra. - All right, put into it. - Don't they stop. - That's you. - El Bonio. - Don't they stop. - Don't they stop. - Don't they stop. - Libra. - Libra, as Boeno, poor supoista. - Where do we are, El Bonio? - Don't they stop. Train station. - Well, we'll write the forward. - Train station is Ferracadilla. - Okay, good to know, good to know. - We'll write the forward though for your next book, how I kicked my addiction to hair plugs and then relapsed. The Joe Bucks story. - Okay. - Yeah. I haven't had me since I-- - Wink kicked my-- - He's winking out of us right now if you're listening. He's winking. He's doing the wink. - I know the wink. - Here does look good, Joe. - Yeah, look at that. - It's supple. - It's fucking great hands through it. - Yeah, you could lose some. You could actually afford to lose some. - No, that's how it starts. That's how it starts. - Then you're back. It's just a big hamster wheel of hair. Joe, you're the best. Thank you for everything, seriously, truly. - We love you. - We love you. - We love you guys. - We love you guys back. Congrats on the book. That's a big deal. - Thank you. - Now, here's the thing. I was a New York Times best seller because of the weird algorithm that they do. - Yeah. - I don't really know that that translates to actual financial success. - But it's cool to say, yeah. - Yeah, like you guys were, you know, hitting me with the watch for the ratings. Are you guys going to be having bad? - We'll guarantee it. - Yeah, I hope the Dr. Jill Biden's book doesn't sell a single copy of this book. - No, no, we'll guarantee it. We're going to be New York Times. - I'm boycotting it, as a matter of fact. - Yeah. 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There's a lot of people on the show that don't have a dog. - Mike Vick had the office. - Mike Vick had lots of dogs Max. - I, my dog does not fight. - Check it. - My dog is very safe. - Office dog would be a terrible idea. - Yeah. - That dog would be. - It would be good to pet like day one. The office dog would be great. And then you'd have to figure out like who's actually taking care of it. - Yeah. Maybe we could barely, we had to give away our office turtle. - Yeah, memes. - That's not true. That was well taken care of. - Should we get a goldfish? - Should we get this year? - I mean, I think you just read, you wrote the chapter on layer and you were like what if we have another one? - Exactly. - There's never gonna be another layer. - Zach, could you keep a goldfish alive? - A goldfish? - How about a dog instead? - Dog, dog, I'm not sure. I'll say it. I don't know about that. - I would love to keep it. I'd love to just see how a goldfish does for a couple weeks. Let's talk about it later, okay? There would be nice, would be nice. - Hey Danielle, Erica, Henrietta, Maxine, Zee, and Mimi. - Mimi, that's my grandma the same. - Okay. - Who's your favorite recurring guest who is not featured in the book? - Oh, like that didn't write a chapter? - Julian Edel. - Yeah, Julian Edel, Greg Olson maybe. - Stanford Steve. - Yeah, he should have. - Got a sorber, P. Cromshaw. - Tramazzula. - Yeah, Miss Zula chapter would have been good. Yeah, I mean, we couldn't do a million because it would have just made the book like 7,000 pages long, but yeah, there's definitely some people, I was like, shit. We should have had them write a chapter. - Rick Petino. - Just a sentence. - Booker, we should have had Booker write a chapter. - Yeah. Next book, Stavvy. - Stavvy would have, yeah. It would have been good. - Eye parentheses, we need the full 24 hour rundown of the LSU Championship title game, how the coach Owen Burrow interviews somehow still happened, all-time rally from everyone involved, 10-time AWL Andreate from Nashville. - Okay, 2000, what? 2019. - 20. - Technically, yeah. - Right before COVID. - Yeah. - We LSU won. I think we all bit a lot on LSU to win. We went out. We started, we went and saw our friend Derek, who was Coach O's right hand man, and he, at that point, was like, I think he said to me, he's like, "Hey, I'll text you if this can actually happen." And I was like, "There's just no way." And then we went out all night. At one point, we were at a bar, and it was like us, Jay Cutler and Anthony Rizzo, all hanging out, and Stanford Steve. - And Stanford Steve? - Yeah. - And Chris Long, I tried to wrestle Stanford Steve. - Yeah. - I think go well. And then I wanna say we got home around two or three in the morning, and I think I set an alarm for super early, and I woke up and then Derek texted, was like, "It's a go, you gotta be here at this time, and we can do it." And it was just like mad dash. We carried this stuff there. - Right? And it was just a, we were so drunk. We were still so drunk. - I think eating the morning. - I think I, at some point hung out with maybe Steve Levy that night. - Yeah, he was in one of the bars? - He was there. - Then I remember I was at that bar with Chris Long, and Stanford Steve, and Rizzo and Tommy Alter was there. - Yeah. - And I think being Tommy, it's time to go. I recall that being about four a.m. - Yeah. - And I looked at my phone, and I think that's when you texted, interview. Oh, so it was happened. Yeah, it might have happened at the end of the night, where I before I went to sleep, but it was it I want to say it was like maybe three hours of sleep. Yeah, fully drunk. And then carrying our stuff to the hotel and dirt, who's the man. Absolute legend. Uh, was basically like, here's the room set up. Our bus leaves at nine. You guys get, you know, Joe will come in at eight. Coach, Joe will come in at eight 20. That's what I got for you and we're like, we can make it work. And yeah, it was, I mean, to get that was a big pinch B moment, too, where it's like, these guys just won a national title and we're getting to interview them and we're fucked up. Yeah, very cool. And then I remember when when coach O got done with the interview, he walked out of the hole and started screaming at everybody, like, you're going to miss the bus. Get on the bus. He was angry at his team, like, hey, like coach, I don't think they care. Yeah, right now. They just won. And then later on, we were doing the podcast and one of the hotel rooms. I remember puking during that. I was so hung over, yeah, throwing up during the podcast that we did afterwards. Yeah, it was good time. It was a great time. I don't think that we'd be able to pull that off right now, not in terms of, like, getting the interviews the day after, but being able to rally from four a.m. to like, no, to functioning at seven a.m. Yeah. That's a young man's game. All right, last one. Uh, what's up, boys? Have you ever seriously considered lowering the number of shows every week? I know it's something AWOs like me always look forward to knowing. I'll always have Monday, Wednesday, Friday, but you can't deny that when most people get your amount of success, they would want to ease off the gas a little bit. Thanks, boys. Love you guys. I mean, we kind of, it's not the same, but during football season, we, we do no guests on Mondays. So it's like, that's less guests that we have to do and is a little bit of a lighter load for us. Yeah. We've, we've toyed with maybe doing and maybe AWOs can, uh, tell us what they think, but like, we had no guests on Friday. I think people really liked that episode. We've toyed with maybe doing no guests Mondays in the off season. Well, obviously there's certain what like masters SVP, you know, selection Sunday, John, like, there's certain Mondays that's like, we're still going to have a guest, but maybe being like, hey, let's have some, some more looser episodes on Monday. But I don't, I've never felt like it's like, oh my god, this is too much. Yeah. I've never felt like, oh, fuck, we ran out of shit to talk about. Um, if we did two episodes a week, each episode would be like four hours. Yeah, they'd be long and I'll be so long if we did two episodes a week. That, like, that does add up. Yeah. One fewer episode a week, four fewer a month, was four times 12, 48 fewer a year. Like that is it. That would be a difference in terms of like total downloads. No, we love doing it. And it's like, it doesn't, it's not to the point where it feels like it's an effort to do three episodes a week. It feels like the natural, the right amount. I also, I'll, I'll say it, it's probably a sick mindset, but I take incredible pride in the fact that like, there's a lot of other shows that take like a week or two weeks or like a full month off in the summer. And we don't I, I take pride in that because I think that we're a show that people, we become part of their lives Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And if we broke it for two weeks, they'd go find something else. And then it'd be harder to get them back. So yeah, I take pride in that. And like we obviously do a good job of like, you know, the Tim Woods episodes, which we love doing. Dinger's only stuff like that around holidays and stuff, but yeah, I fucking love it. I love doing it. I think you guys do too, right? Yeah. All right. Good show, boys. Go buy a book. Let's do numbers. Five. No, 55. No, no, double. No. Seven. I think I learned football. See, I might do my top five quarterbacks. 63. And James always 69. Oh, 10. I'm going to go with 70, 70, just 70, 70, just 70. That's not it. There are 77. 70. There. You know, 99. Huge lot for a pug or JJ what set up pug and all the pug clip. Missed 15 for 15 for jg. 15 for jg. We got 69. Teaching what's coming for Thorne. 90. Not even close. Not even close. Close. , 59. Oh, 59. Oh, it's our goal. Happy birthday to Bucky Irving. Happy birthday to Kirk Cousins, Patrick Chung, Morton Anderson, the goat. Kirk Herb Street, Bill Clinton. Happy birthday to John Stamos. Oh, also happy birthday to Ethan. To collect me on this. That was still not how to pronounce your name, bro, but you were awesome. Happy birthday to Mitch Trebisky. Kiss and titties. Kiss and titties. Happy birthday to Fred Durst. Come on. Love you guys. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]