The podcast features a compelling exploration of how individuals find purpose and build movements through unexpected paths, from book representation to skateboarding outreach. Host Ashley C. Ford highlights real-life stories emphasizing the importance of honesty in personal and relationship dynamics. She examines various lies—such as secret visits to exes, fabricated academic credentials, or hiding financial struggles—and argues that these deceptions erode trust and emotional intimacy. The central message is that authenticity creates stronger, more resilient relationships. Even small lies, like pretending to be gluten-free or concealing sexual habits, can have long-term consequences, especially when shared partners are unaware. The host urges listeners to confront their own hidden truths and embrace open dialogue, especially with spouses and children. She stresses that relationships thrive not on appearances or material success, but on vulnerability, truth, and mutual respect. Ultimately, the episode advocates for personal honesty as a path to deeper connection, emotional freedom, and healthier lives—offering listeners a reflective reminder that the truth often leads to growth, even when it’s uncomfortable.
Have you ever wondered how movements start?
I'm Ashley C. Ford, host of Into the Mix,
a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice.
This season, we're talking to unexpected progressive heroes
who found purpose in unexpected places.
People like Marley Diaz,
making sure every kid sees themselves in books.
Kyle Mesteth, a native skateboarder
building a movement for kids nationwide.
Joy Aladakun, whose music moves
from protests to daily commutes.
Find out how they started something bigger than themselves
and listen wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Today, we are gonna find out
some of the biggest lies that people live with.
I don't even know what that means.
It sounds very serious, but I heard some of them are funny.
Let's go.
My husband has no idea that I still visit my ex
for foot massages.
It's strictly platonic.
What?
I don't know that you can really say that.
I wouldn't say that secretly visiting your ex,
we could stop there.
And then you're adding in the dessert of this whole thing
with foot massages.
This isn't platonic, and you know it.
That's why you're doing it sneakily.
My ex respects my marriage,
and neither of us have ever made a move on each other.
He simply gives the best foot massages I have ever received,
and we sort of just made a sneaky agreement
to continue letting him give me them.
It only happens once a month or so.
Sometimes months go by.
We catch up on life, and he rubs my feet.
That's it.
That's cheating.
I feel like this is, come on, what are we doing here?
Like, if you're sneakily doing things
behind your husband's back
because you know subconsciously that it will upset him,
this is bad.
Maybe it's not cheating by the, you know,
but I, this would be a devastating piece of news to hear.
It's just a foot rub.
He just gives the best ones.
I mean, do you need it that bad?
Like, what are we doing here?
Greg is asking if it's breakup territory,
and I don't even, I don't know.
I would have to be in the situation,
but it wouldn't surprise me.
I think more than anything,
it's not necessarily about the situation.
It is the fact that you're willing to lie to me
to go to your ex to get your foot rubbed.
Like, that's an intimate thing no matter what.
He's rubbing a part of your body.
Like, let's be serious here.
And you're willing to share a secret
with someone who isn't me.
That would kind of be devastating to me
if you're going to do that.
So, yes, I think that we are definitely
entering breakup territory.
I don't think that you should continue doing this.
I also think that maybe you should come clean about it.
Honestly.
My son's biological mother passed away
when he was just two months old.
I ended up marrying my husband,
my son's biological dad,
when my son was just nine months old.
Quick turnaround for him.
I know, but it's a long story.
Please don't judge.
Anyway, we made the choice as parents
to hide all the baby photos
with his biological mom
and tell him I'm his real mom.
We don't really have a big family,
so everyone is on board with the lie.
He's four now,
and we just wanted him to be able to grow up
without having to learn his real mom died.
I'm starting to regret it the older he gets,
but I also fear telling him.
Oh, man.
I'm Ashley C. Joy Aladakun,
whose music moves from protests to daily commute.
So, uh,
I will throw you a bone here.
This child is very young.
The child is four.
I get not wanting to,
to tell a two-year-old your mom's dead.
I get that.
However,
erasing the memory of a woman
who gave birth to this child is evil.
We should not be doing that.
Like, I get it.
I mean, a one-year-old can't conceptualize death.
A two-year-old, not either.
Four, we're getting warm here.
And, uh,
yet personally,
I don't think this is the right move.
I think that although,
this is a very difficult thing for a child to go through,
I just,
I just don't think that the mother should be erased from the memory at all.
And I definitely don't think that this is something that should last forever.
Like, if this was like,
hey, we're not going to tell a fucking two-year-old that his mom died,
but eventually when, you know,
they're at the age where they can kind of like understand a little bit better,
we're going to explain this
and we're going to make sure that the mother who passed away
is part of this child's life
and they know the truth about,
but trying to like the erasure of a,
of my actual mother is kind of fucked up here.
Not even kind of fucked up.
It's fucked up.
All right.
We should definitely not be doing this,
but the fact that the child is four, I guess,
I don't know.
I can't remember what my nephew was like at four years old.
I think they're pretty cognizant of things.
Iris is four.
Iris is definitely,
Greg's daughter is four years old
and she wants to fucking start a podcast with me.
So she's definitely able to conceptualize.
So yeah, I think that the child may be this, this,
should be something that you definitely,
you got to come clean about this.
You can't just, you can't just do that.
That's messed up.
The husband willing to do this, by the way,
outrageous, outrageous.
I have to subscribe to the fake it till you make it mentality,
but I can now admit it's gotten me into some trouble.
I thought by now I would have earned a lot more.
I drive a G wagon,
have multiple luxury watches and pay $8,000 in rent.
I'm known as a rich guy in my friend group
and I treat people to dinners and cover vacations.
There was a point where I was doing really well,
but in the past two years,
I have far outspent my earnings
and I'm currently in $162,000 of debt from credit card loans.
None of my friends know my girlfriend and family don't know,
but I can't bring myself to change my lifestyle
and let them know I'm actually failing.
Oh man, this is sad.
This is so sad.
I feel bad for people like that.
I mean, listen, this is a,
I think this is something that maybe a lot of people
who find success in their younger years struggle with,
that they think that it's all going to last forever.
So they live a certain lifestyle and then it becomes,
this is the reason why people
like me is because this is my lifestyle,
which maybe that's right,
but also maybe that's incorrect.
This just tells me that this person sees their value
in materialistic items.
Like if I don't have the G-Wagon,
if I don't, you know, buy people dinner,
then people won't like me, you know?
That's what I'm getting from this.
So this is something you need to work on yourself, my guy.
Okay?
People have to like you for reasons that aren't money
and aren't cars and vacations.
And things like that.
And if that, I just saw a B.
I think I saw a B in here.
What's going on?
I think that if you are truthful
and you're a hundred percent yourself with people,
then people will understand like,
hey, I'm actually going through a tough time right now.
I have to sell this watch.
I have to get rid of this car.
I have to downgrade a little bit
because things aren't really going my way anymore.
Ultimately, you're going to find yourself
in a situation like this if you don't do that earlier.
You have $162,000 of debt.
That's going to be very difficult to clear
with all the interest payments that you have to make now.
And you could have just been more truthful.
About your situation in the beginning to avoid this.
And listen, you would hope that people would still would,
would be like, hey, like, how can I help?
And still hang out with you
and still be friends with you or whatever.
And if they don't, you don't want these people.
You don't want people that are just your friends
because of your status or because you buy them dinner
or because you have a nice fucking watch.
Who gives a shit about any of that at the end of the day?
Is that worth $162,000 of debt that could potentially hurt
you for the rest of your life?
It's not, it's not worth that.
So I think, unfortunately,
what happened is you started finding success
and you believed that that was more interesting
than who you are as a person.
And you put so much stock into that,
that now that you don't have it anymore,
you're like, I have nothing to offer people,
which is not true.
You have other stuff to offer people.
You just got to find out what those things are.
And you got to ignore some of this shit now.
Good luck with that fucking debt though.
Good Lord.
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My wife doesn't know I watch porn.
She's very religious and thinks it's a sin to masturbate.
We have sex, of course,
but masturbation is a sin to masturbate.
Masturbation isn't allowed.
The truth is, I obviously watch porn.
I said that already.
Damn.
I obviously do and I do also.
I also specifically love the little people porn.
Didn't think we were, didn't know that was a complete left turn.
For some reason, this is the genre that really has stuck with me.
It's not that I wish my wife was a little person.
It's just the best porn for me.
Sometimes I'm in the next room doing it or in the bathroom when she's right in bed.
It would kill her to know, but I guess it's not worth shaking up the marriage.
Oh, and I told her I was a virgin before marriage, but I definitely wasn't.
There is so much going on here that is not good for your mental health.
I actually think that everything that is in here is bad.
Not that little people are bad,
but I think that lying to your wife about being a virgin when you weren't,
false pretense is not good.
Don't do that.
The fact that you're in the next room watching porn to satisfy something in you
that your wife who's in the next room,
who is a human woman that you married,
we need to shift this energy.
You understand?
Clearly, there is a coping mechanism or something.
You're leaning on dopamine addiction or something.
Your wife is right there.
You can connect with your wife.
It seems like from the beginning,
that is not how you go about relationships
because you could actually have a closer connection with your wife
if you wouldn't do things like lying before you got married.
If you were able to have an open dialogue with your wife
and be like, listen, I'm actually not a virgin.
You're very religious, but I really love you
and I want to be with you, but I'm not a virgin.
I'm not going to lie about that.
Then you guys can possibly move on from that.
That would create a system in your relationship
that allows you to have an open dialogue
so that when you discover, you know what?
I'm actually into little people porn.
Maybe there's a possibility that you could bring that up to your wife.
I don't know really what you can do about that,
but also she's able to talk to you
and maybe let you know, hey, I love you.
I'm your wife.
I don't really enjoy the fact that you're in the next room.
I'm watching little people porn
and it's not about the little people.
It's just about the porn and Jen.
You understand?
But if you're going to continue to create these systems
where you have to lie to quote unquote,
protect your marriage and protect your wife
and it's not worth shaking up,
there's just going to be more examples of this.
It is absolutely worse worth shaking up your marriage.
If you're going to be truthful,
because then you can be yourself in the marriage.
If you are creating systems that only allow you
to do what you want,
while they think you're somebody else,
this is bad.
It's better to create systems where you can be honest
and have difficult conversations
because then you can be yourself
and then you won't have to do this stuff.
You won't have to sneak around.
Maybe she's like, oh shit, I'm kind of into that.
I don't know.
You know what I mean?
People make sacrifices in great relationships.
This is what you want to do.
You need to be truthful in your relationships,
as truthful as you possibly can,
because then you're as comfortable as you could possibly be.
You can even find parts of yourself that are new
and you're not. I'm afraid of those because, you know,
I have an open dialogue with my wife.
I can talk to her
and then we can kind of figure this thing out together.
That's what you want.
But if you don't have that,
you end up in the next room,
you're sitting on the toilet watching little people porn
while your wife is in bed.
Like, this is not good.
This isn't good.
My husband thinks I have a degree
from a pretty prestigious university.
I mean, I do have one framed,
but it's a complete fake.
I was very insecure about not finishing college
when I was younger and created a lie for myself.
I'm not from the US,
so my family isn't here
and the job I have now didn't require any real,
in fact, checking on my degree.
I always wanted to tell him the truth about my life,
but it feels like the time has passed
and now it would just be weird to bring it up.
He brings it up a lot to people,
but I have my lie down to every detail
and luckily haven't run into anyone
who's actually went to that school yet.
I guess it's not hurting anyone.
Is this that wrong?
Listen, I am sympathetic to the fact
that you were so insecure about a part of your life
that you created a lie
so that you can defend or protect yourself
and protect yourself.
I'm Ashley C. Find out how they started something bigger than themselves
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At a certain point.
However, I do think this has gone on
for a significant amount of time.
This kind of goes back to the other ones,
but if you want to have the type of relationship
where you and your husband are on the same team,
which you absolutely do want that, by the way,
you should tell them.
And listen, it's okay, I think, to be like,
look, there was a time in my life
where I was so insecure about this thing
and I made it up.
That's a fake thing on the wall.
I printed that at Macy's.
So like, I printed that at Office Max.
It's completely fake.
It was $1.29 and I put it in the frame.
The frame was very expensive.
Framing shit is so expensive.
What the fuck is with that?
What is the deal with framing?
Oh, who's running this fucking, whatever.
But I think it's okay to be like,
I didn't know how to tell you or when to tell you,
but I want to tell you now.
Also, I would like to keep it going.
Like, at least be on the same team with your husband
so that he doesn't feel like,
okay, we're going to lie to everyone else,
but you're also lying to me.
That's kind of crazy.
Like, I'm your husband.
So I think bringing it up in a way of being like,
you know, I'm embarrassed.
I'm sorry that I lied to you.
This is just a lie.
This is just something that was like,
I was very insecure about and I regret it,
but here we are.
And I don't want to have to explain this to everyone else
because at this point,
maybe it's not everyone else's business,
but I felt like I owed it to you because you're my husband.
So we can be on the same team
and we can continue to lie about this thing at parties.
Pretty fun.
But I do think ultimately,
you got to relieve yourself of this.
It's too much stress on your shoulders to be like,
I have this secret that I'm keeping from this person
that I see every single day that I sleep next to
and I'm lying.
And I, and I don't have anything.
Like, I'm just like keeping this one.
Like it's better to let it go.
And also at this point, what's going to happen?
Is he going to be like, whoa, I'm going to leave you.
I would never be in a marriage with someone
who didn't graduate college cares at this point.
I'm not fucking gluten free.
I eat bread and shit whenever my wife isn't around.
Um, all right.
Why did that start?
Like why even say that you're gluten free?
Is it something that your wife is gluten free?
And you're like, oh, me too.
Maybe on a first date to make it a little less,
like uncomfortable.
If they felt like they were insecure about like,
oh, I'm gluten free.
It's like, oh, don't worry about it.
Me too.
Eventually though, like you go on like your third,
fourth date, you're gonna be like, yo, by the way,
I just said that because I thought you were embarrassed by it.
So I wanted to be on the same team,
try to make you as comfortable as possible,
but I'm not going to let this keep going.
You guys are married.
How long has this been going on that you're gluten free?
Brother, I don't know that I could give up bread for that long.
Maybe two dates and be like, well,
I won't touch the bread basket and I may fail honestly.
Because the bread basket is one of the best parts
of going to dinner, but doing it when your wife is around,
this is kind of crazy.
If you're the type of guy who's like,
oh, I can only do the things I want when my wife is around.
Doesn't that make you feel weird?
Like, are you afraid of your wife?
You shouldn't be afraid of your wife
and she shouldn't be afraid of you.
You guys should ideally be yourselves
when each other are alone.
You're a gluten free guy for no real.
What does she care?
What matter?
Why does that even matter?
I don't understand.
You think your wife's going to leave you because
you ate a piece of toast?
What are we talking about here?
How long can you eat lentil pasta
before you miss the real thing?
Before you want a big fat rigatoni?
The OG way.
Are you going to wait until your wife leaves the house
and then you're eating bread like a little rat?
Come on.
Figure it out.
My wife doesn't realize I put in a butt plug sometimes.
She is very vanilla and wouldn't go for it,
but she doesn't notice.
Yo, we got to stop this, bro.
We got to stop this shit.
If you want to fucking sneak it in the back,
sometimes and she doesn't notice,
bro, give her a shot.
She's very vanilla.
She would never go for it.
How do you know?
Also, bro, the vanilla,
not, I don't want to speak like I,
you know, I'm not, this is a theory,
but, but I feel like if you're honest with your wife,
you could be surprised.
Also, what does she need to be into?
You're the one fucking with the shit in there.
If I'm putting the plug in, I'm plugged up.
She's not plugged up.
What do I need her to be plugged up for?
She can still be vanilla, but I'm plugged.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm hooked up.
I'm hooked up to the wall right now.
Also, she doesn't realize that I put a butt plug in sometimes.
Yeah.
What is she checking your asshole all the time?
You're walking around the house and she's like, wait, hold on.
Pull your pants down.
Show me your asshole.
Is there anything in there?
Obviously she's not going to notice that, but dude, listen,
you want to have, you want to, if you're into that fucking ass,
if you're into that, let your wife know, even if she's vanilla,
she loves you.
She's your wife.
You never know.
Maybe one day she's like, fuck it.
And she fucking goes to the store and she gets some crazy shit.
And now you're, you're both hooked up.
Maybe.
Or maybe you're getting hooked up like crazy.
Like she starts plugging you like you can make.
your life a lot better here you know what i'm saying be honest just be honest with your wives
i'm telling you it makes for a better relationship especially sexually you got to be sexually honest
with people okay because that is the the the truth will set you free the truth will make you jizz
here okay just be honest about what you enjoy and like little thing oh what up because in the event
you're hiding it because you're like she's not gonna like this but then what if she's like yo
that's fire your life is changed after that you know what i'm saying now you're the butt plug guy
now she's plugging you all the time and you're in heaven you're in butt plug heaven not the heaven
that i'm accustomed to to be honest with you but for you my guy you could be living in nirvana right
now but you're hiding it from your wife because she's vanilla how do you know she's not plugging
behind your back she maybe she thinks you're vanilla and you think you're this freak because
you got a you know a sparkly uh dildo in your ass or butt plug in your ass
like maybe she's got one too you never know i don't know i guess that's where we're ending the
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast explores how people build meaningful movements and find purpose through unexpected actions, such as Marley Diaz promoting diverse representation in books and Kyle Mesteth building a skateboarding youth movement.
Joy Aladakun shares how her music crosses from protest spaces to daily life, highlighting the power of art in activism and personal expression.
A recurring theme is the danger of lying in relationships—such as secretly visiting an ex for foot massages, lying about one’s education, or hiding a fake degree—because it creates emotional distance and undermines trust.
The host emphasizes that hiding personal truths, like financial struggles or sexual habits, damages relationships and prevents genuine connection with partners.
Honesty is presented as a foundation for healthier relationships, urging individuals to confront falsehoods and instead foster open, vulnerable dialogue.
Materialism and external validation are critiqued as unsustainable; true value comes from authenticity and emotional transparency, not possessions or status.
Children should not be told to erase their biological parents, as doing so is ethically flawed and harms their understanding of family and identity.
The episode concludes with a call to action
Summary:
The podcast features a compelling exploration of how individuals find purpose and build movements through unexpected paths, from book representation to skateboarding outreach. Host Ashley C. Ford highlights real-life stories emphasizing the importance of honesty in personal and relationship dynamics.
She examines various lies—such as secret visits to exes, fabricated academic credentials, or hiding financial struggles—and argues that these deceptions erode trust and emotional intimacy. The central message is that authenticity creates stronger, more resilient relationships. Even small lies, like pretending to be gluten-free or concealing sexual habits, can have long-term consequences, especially when shared partners are unaware.
The host urges listeners to confront their own hidden truths and embrace open dialogue, especially with spouses and children. She stresses that relationships thrive not on appearances or material success, but on vulnerability, truth, and mutual respect. Ultimately, the episode advocates for personal honesty as a path to deeper connection, emotional freedom, and healthier lives—offering listeners a reflective reminder that the truth often leads to growth, even when it’s uncomfortable.
FAQs
People often lie about their education, sexual history, or personal habits—like claiming to have a prestigious degree or being a virgin. These lies can stem from insecurity but may harm trust and openness in relationships.
No, it's not healthy. Lying about being a virgin undermines trust and can create emotional distance. Honest communication fosters deeper connection and mutual respect in a relationship.
Yes, honesty is crucial. Watching porn while your spouse is sleeping creates secrecy and emotional distance. Open dialogue allows both partners to understand each other’s needs and build trust.
No, it’s not ethical. While the lie may have started from insecurity, long-term deception adds stress and can damage trust. It's better to be honest and acknowledge the lie with your partner.
Hiding it can lead to misunderstandings and prevent intimacy. Being honest allows your spouse to know your preferences and may even lead to new, shared experiences that strengthen the relationship.
When it's no longer causing emotional stress or hiding truth from someone you trust daily. Bringing up the lie with care and apology can strengthen trust and create a more transparent relationship.
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