The speaker shares a rich, personal narrative blending conspiracies, nostalgia, and self-reflection. Central to the story is the experience of purchasing Jackie Kennedy’s watch and the eerie "curse" narrative that emerged from a chain of deaths among those who received it, illustrating her deep fascination with historical artifacts and cultural legacies. She recounts a pivotal moment in her youth when Wesley Snipes saved her life in New York, an event that profoundly shaped her values around responsibility and self-discipline. The conversation also touches on her enduring love for auctions, where she describes high-stakes, emotionally charged bidding battles, particularly over valuable items like a Bible and vintage fashion. She reflects on her personal life, noting that she has not dated recently and feels content being single, valuing family and stability over romance. Amid humor and honesty, she critiques how minor events—like a photo shared during a remembrance event—were exaggerated into scandals, showing awareness of internet culture’s tendency to fabricate drama. The speaker also shares her manifestation list, emphasizing core values such as accountability and calmness, and reflects on everyday routines like vacuuming and cooking as signs of personal growth. Ultimately, the narrative reveals a woman deeply connected to history, memory, and the small, meaningful moments that shape identity—balancing humor, vulnerability, and insight into the complexities of life, love, and legacy.
Let's talk about some of the crazy conspiracies, the Kardashian curse. I love it conspiracy. Should we talk about. Well, you didn't hear that conversation? No way. Can you give me such juicy stuff we have to keep going? Why don't you set the record straight? It was just made into something that was so crazy and ridiculous. You have a manifestation list. I can manifest like a motherfucker. There is. 52 things on the list. I think I could take off one or two. Okay, let's pivot a little bit. Where are they now? Talk to me. I purchased Jackie Kennedy's watch. Someone called me and is like, "You cannot accept that watch. The watch is cursed." We're gonna play a game. One was the last time you went to a grocery store. It's probably been like 15 years. Can't really? No, well. Wesley Snipes saved my life. And I've never seen him again. Shout out to Wesley Snipes. I hope this message gets to you. [Music] Let's talk about some of the crazy conspiracies that they love. It can talk about when it comes to us. And you can give your thoughts. Okay. How do you feel that they say, "Christ Jenner" is like the mastermind of the world. Like, the devil works hard, but "Christ Jenner" works harder. I think that one's kind of funny. You know? I set the same thing. I like that one. And I also feel like she's so not. No, but that's why I love that. She's, but it's like, if anything, I'm like, "Okay, Chloe, this is what you're gonna do." Where we should do-- Like, no. You know, mom's just not. This one, I know bothers. I think all of the siblings, the Kardashian curse. Yeah. That one does. I was talking about this actually today. Not so much that, but a crazy story. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with like, Jackie O, JFK, and Marilyn. That love triangle is crazy. I just respect them as a family and like the positions that they took in our history and shaped our world. So I purchased a watch that was Jackie Kennedy's. I bought the watch on auction of all of them. And afterwards, it was like known, 'cause auctions are kind of private. It like became known that it was me. And someone called me and is like, "You cannot accept that watch." And I was like, "Why?" And they were like, "The watch is cursed." Oh, come on. And I was like, "Really?" Okay, and I was like, "Well, what happens?" And they were like, "Here's the spouse or the husband of whoever, women, or like male closest to the person that gets that watch, has passed away soon after." Shot up. I mentioned a TA. He was like, "Oh, we can't take the watch." And I was like, "Okay." Oh, that's so crazy that he believed it. Unless it's-- I thought we would too. Well, it went down the line of Jackie getting the watch. JFK had passed. Gave it to her, I think Lee. I think her husband passed. Gave it to her son. Her son got the watch. He passed. Kim. Loved it to his wife. His wife gave it to her best friend to keep in her safe. The best friend's husband passed. Shot up. I never received it. I said, "Please don't send it to my home." And so I said, "A watch like this, that is that culturally important, actually deserves to be with the House of Cartier, who like, it wouldn't belong to a person. It wouldn't belong to the museum or something?" To their catalog. And so I just thought. And they were the ones bidding. Like, we were bidding each other. Yeah, so it's a crazy story. I never received that watch. What is it? Your love of auctions. I'm obsessed. Obsessed. Literally when we're on vacation. First of all, Kim has no downtime. Kim does not know how to turn her mind off. If we have downtime, she wants to go look at every house in the neighborhood that could be for sale. I just love to see she finishes. Even if I'm not like looking, I just love to see where she is. And I'm like, don't you just kind of keep chill and relax? She's like, no. Or she's scouring auctions. I love an auction. Like when I were bidding against each other for mom, when Christmas, my God, we did not know. Yes. And then I think you won. I was like, I give them. I don't even remember. It was so expensive. I'm like, you know what? You're lucky. I love you, mom. And Kim and I were bidding against each other without us knowing. Yeah. And we found out Christmas morning. It's very sex in the city. Yeah, but yes, what is your obsession with auctions? I thought that when, so when I got Dad's Bible, that he gave to OJ, I thought that you were outbidding me. I thought someone was outbidding me. Who was? I don't know, but it was like we were going for 12 hours straight in Hawaii. And once you bid, then it pushes it 30 minutes. Once you do the last bid, it pushes the auction 30 more minutes on certain auction houses. And so 12 hours we were fighting and fighting and fighting. And they wouldn't let up. And I'm like, who wants it this badly? I need to know who that is. I need to know. I wish they would tell us. Because I was like, oh my gosh, is this so amazing? Is someone trying to get us this Bible? Like I thought? No. Who else would want this Bible? Right. Why? Why would someone want that? And to spend not much money if it wasn't sentimental to them. Yeah. Maybe they'll let us know after this Bible comes. Please, person reveal yourselves. I just, I love an auction. I love the energy. I love, I think it's like a piece of history. So you love being like, where is this? Why? I have an entire Bob Mackie collection of shares close from the Sunny and Share Show. Of course you do. The ones where she did this video and flipping her hair. I won every single piece at the last big auction. Oh, my gosh. You know what I have? I have the Britney Spears. Oh yes, Bob Mackie. Crystal like bikinis top for you. With the Dolceangabona jeans. And she wore the jeans with the crystal over. Yeah, I forgot. I have that. I need to-- Have you told her? No. That's crazy. No, I, you should tell her. I also wonder how people feel about-- We went to a Janet Jackson concert. Kim is wearing the 1990s Janet Jackson. A little ridiculous. No, I think it's amazing. But I wonder if they are like, I want that shit back. Like, I know. It looks so good. I did tell TJ when I bought his uncle Michael's jacket and gave it to North. And I was like, hey, I have this piece of like a jacket. You know what I bought it in auction? That I haven't even like-- The glove. No. Remember you bought the glove, though? Which one? The white glove. You bought it at your old house when North was little. No, I bought the jacket, his jacket, and I bought his hat. Oh, the hat. But I have a necklace of his. Like an all-beated necklace he used to wear. That I haven't really taken out. I thought it was like a really cool-- And what did he say? Gift, I have Elizabeth Taylor's dresses. What did TJ say about that? I mean, he said like, that's really cool. Like, I'm so happy that you have it. You know, like, I think certain people-- I don't know, like, I don't know how the stuff gets in the hands of the auctions. Speaking of the Jackson. So TJ is the son of Tito Jackson, three brothers, three T. Shout out to three T. Yes. Kim used to date TJ when she was like 14. Yeah, four years. Years. And Kim, and because I was a plus one, we've all had the luxury of going to Neverland. It's just a magical place. It's such a magical place. Some of my best memories. Best memories. I had my 14th birthday party. TJ threw me one, and we took a party bus. I pictures from the whole thing. You weren't allowed cameras in Neverland. So there was a photo booth. So we take so many photo booth pics. But I mean, just having a crazy shaving cream fight. All of the golf carts were Disney. Or like bumping, like Michael Jackson music. While we were driving, like, will you drive in? And there was elephants and monkeys and clothing. And giraffes just roaming the property. It's like in the movie Jurassic Park. But like with animal. It was so. That's right. There was a movie theater. It was just a magical place. I discovered Snickers ice cream bars there. And I've never looked back. I've never been the same since. It was just magical times. We had like the greatest childhood, the wildest. Yeah. Child believable. I mean, going from 14 years old, I mean, horrific. But going from his mother's murder trial. And like as a kid, having to go into court and be a part of the trial. And then like back to back right after. You know, the OG trial, like all in the same year. And then just like bonding together to like have. And then, you know, my boyfriend at the time going through trials with his uncle. It was like back to back to back in court and trials. And like as a 14 year old going and like testifying in a court and a murder trial and being there while, you know, supporting my boyfriend at the time. Just how emotional and how grown up those experiences were at such a young age, what we were kind of thrown into. So it's interesting that like, you know, there was like three cases, the world's largest cases, two of them, being thrown into before I'm 15 years old. You know, like that's crazy. And not like, I think is what. really sparked my love of law. I was going to say, do you think subconsciously any of that has shaped you into doing what you passionately are doing now? Yeah, I mean, I think at 14, I'm sitting there watching, you know, my boyfriend and his brothers going through something and seeing all the testimony and figuring out what that is and wanting to be so supportive. So like figuring out what does this mean? Okay, we have to hear like this person on the stand and this person in state, three of trial and day, ten of trial and coming for like this, just knowing what the process was and then, you know, seeing dad go through that trial and then going ourselves like Courtney and I went and being a part of that and seeing all of the witnesses and what that was and, you know, being on both sides and seeing how that tears apart families and that was so emotional for our family. And then again, supporting my boyfriend at the time, going through a big trial of his uncles on like such a serious matter and just a lot really deep things. I think that like fully sparked my, I don't know if I've ever thought about it that way, but like I was always super interested in what happens in a courtroom because of those experiences. Every January, there's always something new. A new rule, a new cleanse, a new miracle habit that everyone swears is going to change their life. And then by February, it's gone. 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Do you know I've never seen a housewives? I love housewives shows. That's like crazy. I know. I don't know if it's your vibe, but I love all that stuff. Yeah. Carla Debello. I actually talked to her like two days ago. So she moved to Dubai. She was working with me and then she moved to Dubai. I love Carla. Brittany Gastonone. Love Brittany. Yeah. I had kids. Same with Carla. They don't have kids, so it's hard to like maintain a friendship, but like for the last like three years, I've been hanging out with Brittany and I talk to her every so often and I really love her. She's like a really good person. There was someone that I can't remember. I wrote Pussycat dolls. Do you not remember that melody? How did you remember her name like that? Yes, melody. Yeah. Who was she again? She was a Pussycat doll, right? Yeah. From the Pussycat dolls, I was friends with like her and Aubrey O'Day. Remember? Yes. And we'd always hang out and like, again, nothing happened. They were such nice girls. Yeah. They were so. We had like a lot of fun and we were like going out, but I think it's one of those things is like, I was making new friends as I was like starting to be in the business. And then when you start working more and traveling, it's like hard to keep up, especially if you don't have like a crazy history, like our whole lives, like my lifers, you know? And so it was like a quick friendship, but like such a fun time. Yeah, I just remember having so much fun with them. Yeah. Oh my gosh, remember Chedney? Yeah. Ross? Yeah. I love Chedney. I love Chedney. Yeah. Chedney was and we had so that was like, we had so much fun with them. My Emmy trip with Chedney. Yeah. Chedney was the best. Where is Chedney now? So I see Tracy sometimes. Yeah. And so I'm always like, how's Chedney? And she shows me pictures of her kids and her husband and like, yeah, I saw Evan last weekend. I love Evan. I see Evan all the time. Yeah. I saw last weekend and always talk about Chedney. Oh my god. I like never have seen Chedney since like 2004. I don't even know. That's great. I love her. Yeah. I wonder why we like didn't. I think the same thing. I think it just fizzled. There was definitely no beef. I don't know. I don't ever remember even a fight. She was so great. What about Todd Crane's? Todd Crane's. I mean, he'll always be family. Yeah. You know, but like he's having babies. I think he's having twins. Well, so one of my lifeers, Ashley Crane's is Todd's cousin, first cousin. So like, I catch up with Todd all the time, like, here what he's up to through Ashley. The Todd Crane's is really for the fans. Yeah. That they were Todd Crane's dad was best friends with my dad. So if my dad's no longer here, it's obviously like he was the one making all of the plans and taking us there every weekend and all the play dates and all of that. So like, you know, it's just like harder to stay in touch. Sushi and saki. Sushi and saki, they are here. They're still here if you want proof of life. I mean, you know this. Yeah. I know where they are. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't post them this much just because I mean, we've had sushi. You're not really like an animal post. I can't never imagine you to be an animal posting person. I know. I just did a campaign with them like a year ago. You did? Yes. I had them in a skin beauty campaign. Yeah. So random. So I have
six dogs. That's wild. Yeah, but you know what? What would make someone get four dogs at one time? When mom gave me those three labs, remember? Yeah, that was. And I said, I have a baby that's less than six months old. I'm moving tomorrow into a rental, some doing construction. You don't just remember that ambush someone with three dogs and big dogs are insane. But you don't do that without these homerunians are so tiny that they're like a handful. It's a handful, but like it's taught my kids in the last few weeks, so much responsibility. North has traveled with Uzi. She named her Uzi, of course. Um, he's always with her in her room. I do love that shy cleans up after her dog. I do, she's not great at it, but she does it. She does it. Yes. I mean, she's little. Okay, let's get to the tea. What tea? I want it you to spill. There's a few iconic stories that I think the world needs to hear about. One of them I'm going to prompt you is your Wesley Snipes story. Oh my god. Okay, so I am kind of known for having like the craziest stories. I feel like I've lived like a bazillion lives. You have. So when I was a teenager, I went to New York with my friends like 17, 17. And they were all like 19 like Sarah Howard, all my friends from like back in the day. They all went to Boston. So they drove up to New York. And I went to New York once before with my dad, but never like on the party scene or anything. So we all are at this club called life. I remember it like it was like the club, the place to be. So we go to, I just want to say, to start it off with Wesley Snipes saved my life. You know, I don't and he doesn't know this story. He has no clue who I was. No, I was. I don't know. He knows. Chloe, I don't know. I never thought of it like I was a teenager. We didn't have no one knew who we were. That's crazy. I have been dying to run into him to be like, I have to remind you of this story. You literally saved me. That's your right. He probably doesn't know. We were at a club and then everyone's like, oh my gosh, let's go back to like our friend's house for a party. And so my friend Sarah Howard, she wrote on my hand her dad's address and was like, if we lose each other, this is the address. Because at this time, there's no cell phones. No cell phones. Hey, phone. I don't think I've gotten a cab by myself. I didn't know. I'd never been in New York like by myself once with dad when I was 16, but like, that's it. So then she hands me a $20 bill because we were sharing a purse and was like, here's for a cab in case you like in case we can't find each other. So I put it like either like right here in like the my dress strap or something. I don't know. And we like carried on with our night. So we go to this house party. And it's like, I don't really know where anyone went at one point and everyone's like, I think it fallen asleep. It was so late because the clubs there like at the time it started at like one a.m. And so we went to dinner at 11 p.m. It was like such a different like felt like the east coast. Yeah. I had no idea. I've never stayed out late. Yeah. You know, and I wasn't drinking. So it's like, I definitely knew what was going on. So at the end of the night, it's like five o'clock. We're at this house party. No, where no one to be found cannot find anyone. Don't have my money. Realize my $20 is gone. All I have is this address and I'm like, am I going to go downstairs and just walk out this building or wherever we were and just find a cab and beg them and hopefully get to Sarah's and like see if she's awake to get more money. Like, how am I going to do this? So I'm walking out and I don't know if Wesley Snipes lived in the building or what, but he was there. Like, we were passing each other and I was like, hi, sir, like, I'm so sorry. But like, do you think I was like, I don't know where you're going? Like, are you going home? Whatever. I'm so sorry to like interrupt your night. But like, do you think you can give me a ride home? It's like early in the morning. So I'm like, do you think you can give me a ride home to this address? And he was like, sure, you know, he's like, but we're going to have to stop like for breakfast. I think he was leaving an honest way to breakfast. I'm sure he must have been like an early workout kind of guy and going for I don't know. So I'm just like, go to breakfast. Oh my god, like, I just need to get home. But sure, you're not scared. I was probably terrified. Right. So we go to breakfast, but he wasn't giving off like any creepy vibes. He wasn't giving off anything. I ran into him and asked him for probably thought you were some drunk crazy kid. No, because I wasn't no. I know you, but like, probably he was like, let me feed this person and let's soap up before she goes home. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? I don't even know when you're young. I mean, think you look so much older. You probably thought you were like passing for 25 and totally. He could tell you're a young kid. Let me totally. So then we go to breakfast. And it's just like me and him. And like, I remember we ordered like eggs and pancakes. And I was just like sitting there like, all right, you know, and he just starts like schooling me like he's my father. And it's like, hey, you know, I don't know how old you are, but you're too young to be out this late. You're too young to be at parties if there was a house party there or whatever. And I was like, oh, we went to this club and he's like, no, no, you're just you shouldn't be out at the clubs. You shouldn't be at these things. I'm going to take you home. And like, I never want to see you out of these things until you're old enough. He saved my life. He schooled the shit out of me, scared me to death and to being at clubs. I'm like, oh, I'll never be at a club again, you know, like he told you all these crazy things that could potentially happen. He really thought it was. It was fully, fully fathered me. And I have never forgot that. And it was so great. I've been like hoping that like maybe we'd have our past would cross and we'd do a talk show or something on the same circuit. And I could just be like, hey, you probably don't remember this. But I was that teenage girl like in New York that you took to a cafe to like tell me that like my life better be on track. And I'm like, this is my first time at a nightclub. And that's what happens. Yeah. He probably wouldn't even believed me, you know. Of course. I love that story. I hope this message gets to you that you are a lifesaver. Oh, I hope it does too. Right? I hope he hears it. I don't know. Now it's like, it's hard. People are so judgmentally with this concert. In the early Y2K days, it was part of the culture to talk down about women. I knew somewhere deep down that if I listened to all those hateful comments out there in the world, that I would never recover. So I decided to find the light within the darkness. Music saved my life. Do you want to tell the story about how Brittany ended up in bed with us? She is just a doll. She's like this sweetest, sweetest girl. And so yeah, her manager, Kate, shout out to Kate, has connected us. And she wanted to come over and we hung. And I've, you know, I've met her a few times before. And she's just really sweet and wanted some girl time. It's crazy how that like went out of control. That story. I was like, it was like the most medicine. No, just like it was everywhere that we were having this crazy sleepover. I'm like, it's just girls being girls. Yeah. Megan, Markle. Oh, the photo. Photo gate. Photo gate from mom's center. It was really innocent, which is so crazy. Mom and Megan have been friends for some years now. And they have a really sweet relationship. We took a photo. And then I think we were all going through them. We're all, you know, communicating about like what we're going to post. We're never ones to post without permission. We are like, it's not who we are. We're very respectful. Yeah. Like we have, we have the craziest, funnest photos from that night, you know, but we were posting just like fun photos. And so we were, we were totally, you know, we were told that it was totally cool to post. And then after it was posted, I think they realized it was remembrance day. And they didn't want to be seen at a party, even though it's already up, you know, and then taken down. And then I think they realized like, oh, this was so silly. And they did baby to baby right before. Well, it's like a charity event. So like, that was fine. But maybe not partying and dancing on the dance floor and whatever. So we took them down to respect remembrance day. Yes. And then you, like you just got a laugh at like the situation sometimes and just like lighten it up and be, if everyone's taking it the wrong way, like lean in, I was like, we should do a full skim's campaign. Take the photo, even just us, like I'll shoot you at mom, you know, post it and then delete it like 30 minutes later. And then I say, oh, sorry, I didn't have permission to post those photos for the campaign. Do that. That's what I was like, that would have hit so funny. You should do. Yes. If we, if we just made it light and made it right, you know, I think it would have been like received differently. But I hated how that was received for everyone. That's it was made into something. It was just made into something that was so crazy and ridiculous that just didn't have to be. Let's get
down in dirty and let's talk about dating. - Okay. - So you are known, I think, for your manifestations. And you have a manifestation list. - I can manifest like a motherfucker. I say that all the time. - You can manifest, you can. - I have a manifest list. I wonder if it would hold read up today. Like hold up. - You don't have that today? - No. - What was the last time you have? - I mean, we read it over New Year's, right? - Stop. - Yeah, just for fun. How many bullet points roughly would we say? - I mean, that's like 65. So I think I can. - That was a solid number. - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, let me see, actually. Like, I just want to, is it like specific like brunette? Or are you like, I know, good heart, or I know you like like white teeth or whatever. - Manifest list, August, 2024. This is when it was written. - Just give me three. So I know what we're working with. - Good morals and values. - Love. - A calm person. Dependable. - I know if you, a calm person. - Should I take that off? - No, I like having that out there, but I also know you like someone. - Okay, that has a little flavor. - Yes, I do. - Like you can have a calm demeanor, but you still have to have like. - Yeah. - Do you know what I mean? I think too calm, you're gonna be like snooze. - Totally. - Okay, well here's a few. Takes accountability. - Love. - I think that's my number one thing. I teach Tatum this every day. - Yeah, I literally work really hard teaching my kids that. - It's my biggest thing with Tatum. He like, he's such a Leo, he won't say sorry. And I'm like, it's okay. - Oh, I need to have a talk with him. He won't say sorry. - Like I have to, it's like, I have to literally drag him say to true your sorry. And he's like, never. So yes, can you gain accountability is a big thing. - There's so many other things, but I think they're all, oh wait, let me tell you, there is 52 things on the list. And maybe add five. Like I feel like we can really fine tune this. - Okay. - I feel like that should be a task of ours. - Okay. - In the last year, have you dated anyone privately? We don't need to say names, just a yes or a no. - Honestly, no. Isn't that crazy? - You haven't, even though you look down the whole time you answered me. - No, I haven't. - Okay. - You know I haven't. - I haven't. - For the people, that's for the people. - I would say if I did. - I know you would. This is, and I think I'm right, the longest you've ever been single for. - It is. - Yeah. How do you feel being in this space? - I feel good, honestly. Like I just feel like, you know, my kids need me. It's really hard when, you know, I have to put them to bed every night. I get them up, I take them to school. I get them ready, they sleep in my bed. - I know. - I have a time, and I'm okay with that. I thought, you know what, I'm gonna be studying. I won't have time when I'm done. I'll open myself up. And so I open myself up, but it's just haven't done anyone. And that's okay. - That's okay. - I'm fine. - But we're gonna tweak your manifestation less. - And yeah. - And what about you? - It's a tough world out there for me. It is, it's, you know what? Now I feel like I've gone so long. Now it's like so scary to get back in there. - I know. - Like now I'm like, I feel so safe where I am. - Yeah. - And I hated how I felt before. - Yeah. - That I'm like, I don't want to go back there. - Yeah. - But I can't live like this forever. - Yeah. - Like I'm afraid that I'm so afraid. - Yeah. - Does that make sense? - It does make sense. - So maybe you'd love to therapy for things, you know? - It is, like how do I even start? And. - Well, I think it's just like our group dinners and stuff like that. - Yes. - Maybe have fun. - Well, even just, I was saying I'm so proud of myself. It's so stupid. Just for going last night, and like being there, I was there for like six hours. - I grew a little dinner in Malibu. - You threw a dinner in Malibu. It was so nice. Just like 12 people. It was really small. We had so much fun. - Yeah. - And I was like, but I wasn't there. Like how mom was there for like 10 minutes and left, which is fine. She was tired. We had a long day. But I was so proud of myself that like I stayed. 'Cause normally I'm like the first one to dip. - Yeah. I was there. - I was really kind of Kylie came. - I was so, Kylie had the best time. 130 in the morning. - Yeah. - She stayed after me. - She was the first one there. - I know you. - She was shocked at all. - She was like the first one there and the last to leave. - Yeah. - That was insane. - I was so proud of her and her. - Timmy, they had the best time. - The best time. - I had so much fun. - I had so much fun. - I'm exhausted right now. - Beat. - Beat. - Okay. Last thing we're gonna play a game. - Okay. - When was the last time you? - Okay. When was the last time you went to a grocery store? - I feel like we went to Air One on our show a couple, like, six years ago or something. But before that, like maybe 12 years. - Kimberly? - No, well. - Yeah. - It's probably been like 15 years. - Yeah. - I've been begging Ralph's to, like, just to, I want to roam through. I'll go. I'll go. - Can't we just go after this? - Yeah. - There's your Ralph's right there. - Yeah. - Like you went to a mall. - I go to the mall. - I know. - You do. - With North. - Yeah. - We go and get Asayee at Berries. - Oh my gosh. That day you go. - You're a mall girl. - I'm a mall girlly. - When was the last time you vacuumed? - I actually enjoy vacuuming. - But seeing the lines make me so hard. - But I haven't done it in a really long time. - When was the last time you went to the nail salon? - For me in decades. - Probably on, like, Bedford and Beverly Hills nail design. - I've probably done it 15 years ago. - Oh, 15. - Yeah, I was not kidding. I haven't been to a nail salon in ages. Pumped your own gas. - I do that. - Oh, I don't like gas stations. That's the one thing I'm like really weird about. - I do, my kids love 'em, you know? - Like, I like the convenience store. I just don't love a gas station. - Yeah. - Wash your dishes. - Oh, all the time. - Yeah. People don't realize that, like, I don't know why. People don't think, like, I wash dishes. We do laundry, like, we're not incompetent human beings. - Yeah. - But I think they think we have, like, butlers or something waiting at our feet. - Yeah. - Did you're on laundry? - I loved doing my own laundry. I did it this weekend. - Cooked for the kids. Anything, breakfast. You do breakfast? - Oh, I do breakfast. - Yeah. - We're home. Oh, I love this one. - Like last week for the kids. - When was the last time you were home for an entire day with no plans? - I think one day, this, like, a couple weeks ago. - This Christmas break. - And I didn't know what to do with myself. - Like, that's the thing. - And cleaned, and cleaned, and cleaned. - Like, did you call me? - Can't call me, she's like, I have not purged. You know, like, kids collect things. Like, one, her son had, like, a bunch of toothpaste or something, and she's like, I go there is seven toothbrushes in the drawers. I haven't cleaned out the drawers in so long. - But on your one day off, this is what you're choosing to do. It's sick. - I think I got, like, 12 full trash bags of stuff we donated. - I love a purged day. - Kimberly. - Are we done? - What was it? - Nice. - You were in Wonderland for a little bit. - Thank you. - And you were on.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker shares a vivid story about purchasing Jackie Kennedy’s watch, which was allegedly cursed due to a pattern of deaths among those who received it, leading to a deep reflection on cultural artifacts and legacy.
She recounts a personal experience where Wesley Snipes saved her life as a teenager in New York by offering a ride after she lost her money and became lost, emphasizing how that moment shaped her values and fear of risky behavior.
The conversation explores the influence of past relationships and friendships—including with Kim Kardashian, Brittany Gastonone, and Chedney—highlighting both nostalgia and the difficulty of maintaining long-term connections over time.
The speaker expresses fascination with auctions, describing intense, emotionally charged bidding experiences, such as a 12-hour battle for a Bible and winning a full Bob Mackie collection, which fuels her appreciation for history and tangible heritage.
She reflects on personal growth, acknowledging that she has not dated recently and is content with being single, prioritizing family responsibilities and self-awareness over romantic pursuits.
The narrative includes a humorous yet insightful critique of internet culture and how minor incidents—like a photo shared during a charity event—were overblown and misinterpreted, reflecting on the dangers of conspiracy and sensationalism.
The speaker shares a personal manifestation list with values like accountability, love, and calmness, noting that it’s still evolving and that emotional maturity has influenced how she defines success and relationships.
She reflects on mundane but meaningful daily habits—like vacuuming, going to the nail salon, or cooking—highlighting how small routines reflect deeper patterns of self-care and presence in everyday life.
Summary:
The speaker shares a rich, personal narrative blending conspiracies, nostalgia, and self-reflection. Central to the story is the experience of purchasing Jackie Kennedy’s watch and the eerie "curse" narrative that emerged from a chain of deaths among those who received it, illustrating her deep fascination with historical artifacts and cultural legacies. She recounts a pivotal moment in her youth when Wesley Snipes saved her life in New York, an event that profoundly shaped her values around responsibility and self-discipline.
The conversation also touches on her enduring love for auctions, where she describes high-stakes, emotionally charged bidding battles, particularly over valuable items like a Bible and vintage fashion. She reflects on her personal life, noting that she has not dated recently and feels content being single, valuing family and stability over romance. Amid humor and honesty, she critiques how minor events—like a photo shared during a remembrance event—were exaggerated into scandals, showing awareness of internet culture’s tendency to fabricate drama.
The speaker also shares her manifestation list, emphasizing core values such as accountability and calmness, and reflects on everyday routines like vacuuming and cooking as signs of personal growth. Ultimately, the narrative reveals a woman deeply connected to history, memory, and the small, meaningful moments that shape identity—balancing humor, vulnerability, and insight into the complexities of life, love, and legacy.
FAQs
The speaker purchased a Jackie Kennedy watch from an auction, and after that, someone claimed it was cursed because several close family members who received it passed away shortly after. The speaker believes this is a coincidence and feels the watch belongs in a museum or with the House of Cartier, not in private hands.
The speaker hasn't gone to a grocery store in about 15 years, recalling their last visit being during a childhood or early adult years, and noting they’ve been meaning to go back but haven’t.
The speaker includes values like good morals, love, being a calm and dependable person, and taking accountability. They mention that accountability is especially important for their child, Tatum, who rarely apologizes.
No, the speaker has not dated anyone privately in the past year, stating it's something they haven’t done despite being open to the possibility.
The speaker finds the 'Kardashian curse' concept humorous and overblown, noting it's often exaggerated and not supported by evidence, and emphasizes that it's more about cultural storytelling than reality.
The speaker appreciates Weight Watchers for its education, structure, and support, especially its GLP-1 program that helps with weight loss and medication side effects, and notes it offers real, science-based tools.
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