Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s (FBF)

What is up daddy gang, it is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy daddy. Nicole Richie and Parasolton welcome to call her daddy. Thanks Ben. Yeah. I am so happy we're finally doing this like yeah, okay, how are you guys doing today? I'm doing fab. How are you? You have a heart out. Yeah. When are you leaving? At three. 12 minutes to go. Here we go. I'm just kidding. Everyone listening calm down, sit down. Okay. By the time this comes out, Thanksgiving will be over. What are you guys doing for the holidays, Christmas, New Year's, what are your plans? What are we doing? Thanksgiving. I host every year. Oh. I do the whole family and everyone's extended families, friends come over. It's a big thing in my house and I do it every year. Are you cooking? I don't cook on Thanksgiving. I cook every other day of the year. I cook 364 days a year. Not Thanksgiving. Why? Because I'm just being a gorge host and that is a job within itself. Love. What about you, Paris? I'm going to be hosting as well at my house this year. So all the family is coming and having a big family get together. And then we're going to go to Maui after Christmas. Oh, fun. For years. Are you cooking? No. No. I love to cook as well. But Thanksgiving is like hardcore. That's like a lot. I agree. It's too hardcore and I'm like entertaining people and I've got, like, it's too much. I cooked a turkey once on my cooking show, cooking a Paris and it was traumatizing. It's just like pulling all the things out of it, just like not for you. No. We are going to get to know you guys better today. So Paris, how would you describe Nicole's personality? Nicole is hilarious, fun, I was not going to say that, it was going to be crazy, but not in a bad way. I accept. The good way. She's just the most fun person in the world. Like when you're with her, you just laugh every second. She's so real, she's kind and she's beautiful. Okay. Now, how would you describe Paris? I would actually describe you as kind of the same. You're so fun. We always have the most wild time and are always laughing. You are also extremely tender, sentimental and just like always wanting everyone around you to be happy and stunning, bitch, thanks, bitch. Okay, let's go back to your childhood. You guys grew up in the same neighborhood. Is that cracked? Yes. And you guys went to the same school. Yep. What was your first impression of each other? Do you remember? Well, we were two. So I don't know. Two? Yes. We've been. I didn't know you guys knew each other since you were two. Yes. And so you guys were just inseparable since the moment you guys were like getting raised together? Yeah. So we went to the same school, but we also we had the same piano teacher outside of school. We had our tap recital together. Orchestra. Oh my god. And then we graduated on to Orchestra. And we love our Orchestra teacher, Mr. Hauser, who's in shout out to Mr. Hauser, who I'm sure watches this all the time. Obviously. He's obsessed with cars. And he's actually in the encore. Nicole, what do you think your reputation was in your town and at school growing up? Okay, well, I did get class clown in both of my schools. Okay. What do you think your reputation was? Just like sweet. Yeah. Darling. Nice. Angel. Never gets in trouble. What do you think the parents in your town thought of you of like all the kids in high school? Were you like when you were younger or even in middle school? What were people thinking? In middle school, like Nicole and I were only allowed to sleep with each other's houses. It wasn't like we were ever staying all the other sleepovers. We weren't allowed. Okay. So we didn't know the parents probably as well because we didn't know. Our parents were really strict. Yeah. And they just like didn't let us do all the things. And like we also used to get treated as one. So like if the leader of our group got mad at one of us, both of us were out. That's so nice to have a friend like that where you're like, it's both of us or none of us. Yeah. I mean, we didn't even choose it. It just happened. And all of a sudden like we were back in and we were like, okay, is it true that you guys had your first kiss at the same party? Yes. Tell me the story. It was at Samantha's. Fagus. Fagus House. Oh. That was the first one. That was the second. The biggest one. Okay. Cause I remember we were at some part. A few days. A few days. Second. Second. This was like six grade. Six grade spin. Spin the bottle. Yeah. And we both kissed like these two best friends. Yeah. Cute. We're in Jared. We, what age were you for your second kiss? Vegas? Fourteen. You guys are not real. Who the fuck is going to Vegas at 14? We were. We were. We, what were you doing in Vegas? We went, this is actually, we were not four two. We were, we were younger, but we were. We were. Her parents. Her parents. We're going to Vegas. Okay. Her parents. We're getting divorced. And so I, as any, you know, up and coming teenager would do, I told my mom I was going to my dad's, I told my dad, I was staying with my mom, and I went to Vegas. And we would, like, her parents would go to parties and we loved this musical called Starlight Express. And we would sneak into the show and we would just like watch it at night. And then during the day we would take taxis and leave the strip and go to the Boulevard Mall to the exotic pet stores. And we would get, like, ferrets and chinchillas. And then we would sneak them back into California because they're illegal here. We, and when did you kiss these? I'm assuming men, boys, they were, they were like, yeah, like 10th grade. How did you meet them in Vegas from our school at the chinchilla farm? No, I don't think they came with us to go get the chinchillas. Yes. And our second kiss in Vegas. Yeah. Kind of romantic. Very romantic. And was that Burton? Was it Amy? They did not make the trip. No. Okay. Who had the stricter parents growing up? I know you're saying they're both strict, but like, who was like really hard to go to who's house? So like, you know, you're not sneaking out if you go to ex's house. Well, I had security at the house, so I've never, I was never, it was sneaking out was not even an option. It was impossible for your house. My house was easier, even though my mom was strict. Yeah. Or, no, it was your dad's was the easiest. My dad's was the easiest. He was like on tour. Yeah, he was gone. So that was fun. The way this is like so casually, you realize that childhood is like you guys have like the craziest coolest childhoods, right? We lived a normal childhood. Yeah. Yeah. As you were saying, second kiss in Vegas, I'm secure. That's fine. I'm struggling, Ferrets. Okay. I'm going to play a game with you guys, because I think this is going to like really, we're going to get to know you a lot here. Ready? Okay. Who would the better 2000s wardrobe? Me. Ah! No. 2000 and what? Like, I don't know. I don't think wardrobe too. Mine was just like so, so 2000, like just the so extra of it all. Yeah. You are very 2000s. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. 2000s trend to wear for the rest of your lives. What would it be? I would never do such a thing. Okay. I would wear all my 21st birthday dress. Love. Yeah. I think you said that to me last time. You loved that fucking dress. I loved it. I loved it. Where is that dress? In my closet. Love. How honest were you guys when you were younger with each other when like they had a horrible outfit on? I feel like we always looked so hot. And we would dress like twins a lot because her mom would buy us like two of the same outfit always. And we were like obsessed with doing that back in the day. Yeah. We had to wear uniforms in school. And then the summer program was called summer games. And my mom would buy like six of the shirts that we would have to wear. And she would put shoulder pads in them. This is ladies shoulder pads in them and be dazzled them. And so we would like we would always dress as twins. And then when we were a little bit older, like once we were 11, we would go to Contempo Casuals and Judy's. And our parents would like treat us like twins. They would buy us like remember the burgundy bell bottom dress. That was so cute. Yes. We have to rewind why shoulder pads? Because it was the 80s. And like that's just cool. It was cool. It was very cool. Yes. Who was the bigger shopaholic? I would say you're very like you're like a little more like manic and you're like you're like I want it all right. It's like ADHD as well. I just I love it all. But I do love to shop. Okay. Who has the worst dating history? Me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Feel right? Yeah. Who was more delusional over guys when you guys were younger? I would say me because my first real boyfriend's AOL name was playa for the number four life. and I was devastated and shocked. to my core when he cheated on me. I couldn't believe it. I was like, where were the signs? - We, how did you find out he cheated? - So he cheated on me three times. Once was on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland, and I know this because every time I ride, I go to myself. - Play a two, two, four, five. What was his handle? - Play a, play a for life. - Play a for life. - PLA, Y-A, at A-O-L dot com. - You know him, you know him, I'm sure he's still around. Peter Pan ride. - Peter Pan ride, and then one of the girls, so I had heard about it. I asked him, he obviously said no. And then one of the girls was really nice and got on the phone with me and told me. And she was like, he said that you guys were broken up. I'm so sorry. And then this is one conference. Conference had just gotten where you could, if you had like the elevated conference, you could still get call waiting while you were on a conference with somebody else. So we called him on conference. He obviously was like, I'm not gonna admit anything. And then we had someone call her, so she got a call waiting, flipped to the other call, came back, and then he admitted it. - Horrible. - Yes. - You moved on. - Yeah, I mean, I moved on, but I was like, I was really shook. I was like, I cannot believe I got cheated. Getting cheated on sex. - No, it's horrible. - It's horrible. - Have you gotten cheated on? - Every girl has. - I know. - With like really terrible eyes are asking. - It's horrible. It's horrible. - What is the bad way that you found out? So you found out from a girl coming to you. Have you found out a different way? - TMZ. (laughing) - Paris. No. - Yeah. - What do you do when you see that online? - Just so pissed. Just like, it's obviously hurts, but also just like mad. Just like, how could you humiliate me like this? - Are you a confrontational person where you would be like calling them or you're over? - No, you're just so like done. And then I hate confrontations, so I just would rather never speak to the person. If I would like break up with someone, I wouldn't even tell them. I just like never just leave. Just like ghosts. - I feel like Nicole, you're confrontational, no? - Yeah, no, I wanted it to be like a major motion picture, like a punishment. - What did you do? - A real thing. (laughing) - Tell me, I don't mean it. - But it's like, yeah, I was like, I know, but I waited until like, I was, that was fun kind of. - It is fun. When you look back and you're not like in the moment, it's fun to look back at the heartbreak, but when you're in it, you're like, - No, when you're in it, it's so devastating. - You can't survive. - And it affects you for life. - Completely. - I actually saw one of the girls at a party, and I was like, you know, you like rile yourself up, and your friends are like, what are you gonna do? She's coming, she's coming. And I was like, I'm gonna beat her up. - Okay, I've never hit anyone in my life. (laughing) And then like finally, like, you know, you're saying it for so long, and then she got there. So the whole party was like, Nicole, she's here. She's here. And I was like, and I like walked up to her. I don't even know what I thought I was gonna do. And her friend literally just went like this. Bing, and I flew across the party. - I had to have a chance. And anyway, we ended up going to college together, so she's my friend kind of. - You're like, bye, never mind. Wait, now you're friend. - Yeah. - I mean, I haven't seen her in like, loose. - Yeah. - But if I saw her, I'd be like, oh my God. Yeah. - Play up for life. - Play up for life. - Play up for life. - Who was the bigger flirt back then? - You. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Love. - I would flirt, but it was more to like humiliate them. Like more and like, and aggressive. - Not in like a, like, sweet. - Yeah, I wasn't. - You're like, I'm gonna ruin your life. - And then some. When the two of you guys would be out, like would you be the person that would go up to the guys? Like if you're at a club, you guys wanna like, infiltrate a table. Are you going up? - No, everyone was trying to infiltrate our table. - Oh, okay. - We didn't have to go up to anyone. They just wanted to come up to us. - I have to say our focus wasn't really like guys. - Oh, guys. - We didn't have to, that was not like, we always just wanted to have fun. And then the guys would come and you're like, oh, this is nice. Like this is a fun little thing. - Yeah. - Did you guys ever fall for the same person or like the same person? - No. - Ever. - Who's that opposite taste? - Okay, tell me what was your type back then? - People who cheat. - I guess. (laughing) - Stassholes? - Yes. - Playsholes like us, play us. - What was your type? - Just people who are cute. (laughing) - Paris. - Or hot. - No, no, no. - I think you were dating nice guys. - No, not like cute, like looks wise. - Oh yeah. - Like just people who are hot and some people were good, but there was, it's LA, so. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You get both types. - Weat. - Didn't you say once in the simple life that you liked men to look like they were dying? (laughing) - Yes, yes, I did say that. - If I saw a bunch of like people that you talked to when you were younger, like did they, there was a theme of them actually looking like skinny and frail and ill. - No, I mean, I sadly, I think I just said that to like gross Janet out. - I don't think I really meant it. - I'm obsessed with you. - So you weren't, you weren't going for like a specific looks wise type. - No. - Whose husband is more likely to crash a girl's night out? Do you guys ever go out together? - Crash a girl's night out. Joel, I think, would get annoyed at like so many girls all at one time. - Yeah. (laughing) - It's harder than ever goes out. - So neither of them are coming. - I don't think they're coming. - Wait, how did you meet Joel? - A friend set us up. - Yeah. - Wait, had you ever like dabbled with musicians at that point? (laughing) - No. - I had not dabbled with musicians. But our friend set us up not in a serious way at all. She was like, your single and he's single. So this is probably not going to be serious, but you guys should hang out. And we did. And I don't know if you've met Joel before. - I think you did because-- - I've met him quickly. - Yes, yes, yes. But Joel is very shy, very shy. So the first night I met him, he actually didn't speak to me. And I was like, this is my husband. - Joel. (laughing) - Yeah. (laughing) - You're like, this is how I know it's gonna be good. - I was like, this is the man for me. - Stop. - And do you think he was in two at first? - Yes, he ended up texting, yeah, or email. - I don't know. - Whatever, yeah, whatever was happening back then, AOL, play it for life. - What was your AIM? - Okay. - My first name was Princess NR because I had a dog named Princess. Then I got a second name, Ballerina Girl NR because Ballerina Girl is a song that my dad wrote and the song is after me. So I just made that my name, okay? So anyway, one day I was like, we were exchanging screen names or whatever like to like a group of friends. And this is like when it was new. So we were like calling each other by their names, and I was like, and so we sat there for an hour and everyone was like, okay, later, whatever, whatever, later, da-da-da, and I was like, and then they looked at me and they go, see you later, Ballerina Girl. And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Ballerina Girl, I said, I cannot believe for a straight hour you thought that my name was Ballerina Girl. So now some of my friends still call me that. - Ballerina Girl. - Ballerina Girl. - That anyone would think that that would be - Imagine I sing yourself a Baller. - Yeah, and honestly, I have ever since. - Yes. - So. - What was yours? - Beautiful blonde baby girl. - Are you fucking lying? - No. - Yeah. I am obsessed with my email name. - Yes. - Yeah, that's one of them. (laughing) - Other one's Princess, P.H. Another one's Barbie for 20. - So we do. (laughing) - Wait, so your emailing people is like, from beautiful blonde baby girl. That is like, you have to have some confidence. - Paris. - Yes. - Love. - Yeah, love. - Ballerina Girl and beautiful blondes. - Jesus Christ. (upbeat music) - Back to Joel. So you meet him, when did you meet Joel? Like when did Paris get introduced? - Was it the same night? I don't know. I feel like it was like, it was around Thanksgiving weekend. And it was like pretty fast, I feel like, when you met him. - It was. - What did you think of them together? - I loved it. - You did. - Yeah, just out there so cute. - It was on.com from the day we hung out. - Joel is so sweet. He's so loyal. He's just one of those types of guys. It's completely different than an LA guy. - Yeah, love. Were you a fan of Good Charlotte? - I was a fan of Good Charlotte. And he also, when he asked me to go to his house, he hates when I tell this story. He asked me, he was like, do you want to come over and watch TV? And I was like, yeah, I do. And he goes, do you watch The Wire? Never seen The Wire in my life. I go, The Wire is my favorite show. He goes, great, why don't you come over? And why? watch it. Now, listen, obviously the wire is an amazing show. Okay, I'm not dissing the wire. But, okay, I'm a girl. He just like threw me into like season three. There's no music. And I, for a very long time, pretended like I watched and loved the wire. When did you break it to him? I think like a few years after years. Yeah, we had kids. Nicole, but we have since rewatched the wire. It's one of, and Joel's from Baltimore. He, Joel's from Maryland. So it's like, it's one of our go-to shows. But it always reminds me of when we first met because I really threw myself into that show. It is crazy. Like, I have done the same thing where I've like lied about liking something for a guy. And I'm like, then you get yourself into it and you're like, I didn't like so deep in, right? You're like, I didn't think it would go this far. And then you're like, they're going to think I'm a full liar. If I admit to this, because like, I've been watching like, I'm on the seventh episode. And I'm like, Oh, my God, he's so funny. Yeah, I didn't know he was going to say, do you want to watch it tomorrow? I was like, Oh, God, okay, great. See you there. Paris. Well, have you ever lied to like, like, something for a guy and then been like, why the fuck did I do that? Like sports sometimes. Are you a big sports person or not at all? No, like, I like playing sports. Like, I like playing ice hockey. I like going ice hockey games. I just some games are boring. And I just don't like it. Okay, sorry, back to my game. Who is throwing the best party? I don't really, I don't throw parties. I don't like people in my not like wild parties. Like, you would throw parties. I throw crazy parties. I love you do the time I interview you were setting up for Christmas party. Oh, my God, that was almost a year ago. How insane is that? Times went to that. You throw great parties. You don't like people. I throw parties now. But when I was younger, I did not throw like wild parties at my house. Because you just didn't want people around you in your house. Yeah, I didn't want anyone like stealing my things or anything. You don't care. People are like watering in your house. No, I don't want people stealing my things either, but sometimes people do. There's like people have literally taken like framed photos and put them in their purses. My security has been like, went up to them, been like, excuse me. Can I have that photo? Dude, that's fucking insane. People like feel, and especially if people like get a drink in them, they feel like I love this place. And they start like doing weird shit in your house. Yeah. And like lighting cigarettes like ashing all over the floor. I'm like, are you? I have children that live here. No, no, that's not the vibe. Okay. Which one of you is more likely when you were younger to like pull through with plans for the night? You're like, I've got the spot. I know where we're going. It was like a schedule. It was a schedule. Did you do the schedule? Like Mondays was Joseph's, right? What is Joe's days was like guys? Wednesdays was last promise. Yep. Thursdays was like concord or LAX. Yeah. There was just all these clubs. We would just go like where all your friends went. And that's what we would do. Would you guys go out every single night? Not Saturdays and Sundays. Those days are for losers. We saturday and I feel like Saturdays. Like the night. No, that's loser bill. What was the best night to go out Thursdays was really. Yeah. Learning so much. Nicole, what is your wildest interaction with paparazzi? Once I was hospitalized, I've got crashed into. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh my God. You were driving and someone crashed into you. Yes. I'm so sorry. Yeah. My son was like six weeks old. He was not in the car. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah. When you look back at that, like, how do you feel about that time in your life? I feel like at the time you, it was very hard to implement any sort of like boundaries, because the world was not really acting like you deserve that at all. And I was so young and just like didn't know how to stand up for myself like that. So I was just like, I was just, I like, I accepted a lot more, which I think is very common for your 20s of just like accepting that things that that I would never accept now. That's traumatizing. I know, obviously, like, you've talked about it occasionally of like, well, not occasionally a lot. Like, you've been very outspoken in a good way of like, this is really dangerous of like what those people were doing back in the day. And then it's kind of fucked up when people like, yeah, but you guys were asking for it. Like, you loved it. Like, what do you say to that? I don't say I'm like, if that's what you want to believe, yeah, do it. I don't think I care. What is one of the crazier experiences you've had with pop rotsie? Well, just when I used to live on King's Road, like right above Sons of Plaza, they would just wait outside my house from morning till night and just follow me from the second I woke up till I went home at night. And there would be some times where I would wanting to go to a friend's house. And I didn't want them knowing their address. So I would literally be driving like a hundred miles per hour, just trying to get away from them. There'd be 20 cars all chasing me. And I just remember just like sometimes turning around just like guys like leave me the fuck alone. And they would just not stop. So that would just drive me crazy. Because it would just get so dangerous was like all these like strange men just like following me all the time were like going through my trash or people like jumping over the gate. And just like it was just so invasive all the time. No, that like creates like an intense form of paranoia. I'm sure like you can't you have to worry about what you put in your trash. Everything just like I'm shooting through the windows just like. It was just creepy. I'm so happy I live in a gated community now, because it's just like and your gated community when I tried to find your house Paris. There's no service there. And I was like, hello. And then I'm like this freak driving down there's like a man like walking like I'm trying to go to Paris Hilton Salty's like we've got a freak on the loose. He probably breaking it. No, your house is you are you're good to go. You're safe. Okay, sorry to bring that down for a second, but it is interesting to hear about like what you guys had to go through. Okay, I know this is like big, but if you can try to give the daddy gang a story, what do you think is one of the most iconic nights out that you guys had together when you look back and you're like, fuck that was insane. Like the two of us went all out. It was so fun or something horrible happened or something disastrous or fun or funny like anything. We did go through a stage where we would wear shoes with wheels on them. And we would roller skate all night. And I this was at the same time I had my ball python Cleopatra and she would come with me as well. What? So I had a ball python. Her name was Cleopatra. She was gorge. And I would wear her around my neck like a necklace. And we'd put on our shoes with wheels and we would like roller skate all night. Would you go out with this with Cleopatra? Of course. You would go in public with a snake around you as a chocolate. Yes, like a little collar, like a collar necklace. We and no one stopped you. Stop me from what being gorge. Oh my god. You never were like, oh my god. My python is about to fucking rip the necks of everyone around me. No, no, she, no, she loved being with me. She was so I miss her. Okay, so are you you're talking about healies, right? Or no, these are different. No, this is like pre healies. Yeah, you were whipping. Would you ever wear them to the club? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're in the club with he Lee. Yes, yes, because you could press the button and they would go in and out. They would just like, yeah, so we would come and like swoop do. I'm obsessed. They were great for like getting away from creepy guys. Yeah, you'd be like, oh, I'll be right back and then you're like one thing. Dude, that's insane. I can't imagine wearing those to a club. You were a professional. Yeah, we were just really good at it. Did you ever get in trouble by your parents together in Vegas when we were in Vegas when you were 11? Well, no, we were like 12 and we were like 13 and we are with these guys and they're like, do you want to go to the strip and it was near as Eve and we were like, okay, so we were on the Las Vegas strip. Then these cops came up to us and they're like, how old are you? And we're like 21 and they're like, let's see your IDs. How old are you really? And we're like 18 and they's like, how old are you really? What's your names? And I was like, my name is Jennifer Pearlstein. Her name is Leslie. And they were just like, where are you staying? And they kept asking us a million questions. And then the colds like, actually, you told us. Well, if you don't, I actually don't think we said 21. I think we said we're 15 because we in our minds thought that was like old. Yes, then we didn't have to use. Yeah. And so they were like, they were like, what's your name? I think you said Jenny Stone because we went to school with her. Stop poor Jenny. And they were like, we're going to arrest you if you don't tell us your parents names. So then they came, your parents came, they got us your dad, who's the kindest, sweetest, most soft spoken man turned to us. I'll never forget it. And he goes, I knew this was a bad idea, like screaming at us. He's like, I knew this was a bad idea. You lied to us. And you were never hanging out again. Cut to the simple life. We got separated a lot. Remember when I had a piano, my piano lesson at my house, and I like didn't want, they were like, okay, it's time for, because we were always at each other's houses. So it was like, okay, it's time for the piano lesson. You guys have to stop Paris has to go home and we were like no, we don't want to and so we were holding hands And they were like come on guys come on and my nanny like was pulling me and like my housekeeper was pulling her and then we grabbed This hand and this hand and someone who was holding our legs up So we were just like flying Yeah, that was so fun. Yeah, I can't the fact that you guys like know we're 15 Meanwhile, that's like old in your mind, you're 11 Like no, I think we're like 11, but we didn't do anything. We were doing anything. We were just out past curfew classic Just like except you're on the Vegas trip Yeah, but we were just like being cute and we wanted to go to the mirage and see the tigers. Yeah, yeah classic classic Okay, I have to ask though because you just mentioned your dad being like we're never doing that again cut to the simple life Why we're here obviously aside from like I love you guys Let's talk about the simple life. We're getting an encore. We're getting a three-part series We're getting what do we want to call it? I call it a reunion special love. Yeah, okay Can we go back to the first original before we get to the reunion because obviously the original was so iconic Paris can you talk to me about like how was the show originally pitched to you of like the simple life because it is so iconic and will be forever iconic They didn't tell me where we were gonna go. They basically just said we want you to go somewhere and we're gonna take away your phones and your money and credit cards. Okay And you're just going to go somewhere and they didn't say anything like they didn't say like you're gonna be working jobs like I don't how do they it was just like you're gonna go somewhere and take away everything Yeah, they told us nothing nothing. We didn't know we were flying like even on the jet flying over there They didn't tell us we're just we didn't know until we landed We so hold on producers pitch you this idea and you two do it together and you're both like Sounds good and you get on a private plane. Yeah, and you fly to what was the first place you went Arkansas Arkansas altas love and you then just start filming we start filming the moment we got on the plane I think oh interesting. Yeah, okay, or I think the night before because we had a good buy party They're yeah, the good buy party and they're filming like packing and all that and now obviously the premise is you guys like doing like Jobs each episode and you're like doing a job had you guys ever had a real job prior to that No, no you were I was a I was a skating school instructor and I was very good you were yeah love that for you Okay, you guys have a little song that you liked to sing throughout filming can you guys remind us of how it goes? Okay, well, let me just tell you this song is beautiful and I did talk to you about all of our musical talents But what I didn't say is that we wrote this song ourselves When we were seven if you can believe it. I mean the talent in this rule. It's really I have chills just from talking about it. Okay. I'm gonna close my eyes come on. Give me a little tune ready. Okay the ending can go pretty loud sometime. Yeah, so you wrote this when you're seven. Can you die? I mean it's kind of like beautiful a work of art. It is. What did your dad say when he heard it for the first time? He was like jealous and wanted to put it on his album, and I was like no pay me bitch Let me before I want to actually talk about this you guys stop talking at one point I don't know this is a sort of topic, but I have to ask about it You guys were like not filming together in season four for the simple life, right? What the fuck happened? Be real with me. Don't give me a PR answer you little shit. It's not gonna be good enough for you Because it really isn't like it's never good enough for people. Okay. What happened it's not even like there's nothing nothing really Happen I mean go ahead back then the media was just so toxic, and I they loved starting feuds between people because obviously that sold tabloids So it was mostly just the media just spinning things and Creating drama that didn't even exist which was normal during the 2000s. I did it with everyone It's that combined with like and we are in our 20s and we had no time like it wouldn't happen now because You know, I think like we were just so young that we didn't even know like how to communicate with with each other So like you know if we were hearing something we just Would assume is that true? Is that not true and we didn't have the communication skills that we have now to like have check-ins which is so important Yeah, no, I can see that like You guys seeing things in tabloids and it like obviously I feel like whenever there's a duo People want to break a duo up, and it's like pitting each other against each other like who's better at this and who's better at this And it's like does it make you sad when you look back that it like the media fucked with your guys relationship that heavily? It makes me yes, I mean it makes me sad like whatever. I don't care about the media It makes me like sad to think about a time without my friend I think that it has really helped me in my communicating at this stage in my life. Yeah And you know, I think just with all relationships like it's so important to have check-ins and To be honest and real and you know tender with the people that you love the most. Yeah I mean, I think that's even applicable to like social media like I bet people see in college or high school or whatever You're like, oh my god, this friend went to this party and I didn't get invited and everything can be misconstrued Because we're posting like half versions of what's going on and you can feel so upset and frustrated if you're not included in something or you hear a rumor from someone and it's like half of it is Usually never true who reached out first to clear the air. How did you guys like come back together? We were friends for a long time before anyone even knew Because our our families are friends, you know, and so like like we've been we've been friends our entire life So you know when you're like and I don't mean to belittle it at all But when you're like talking about some fight like I watched you know I watch it with like other 20-year-olds that I know and they're they're like Going through a little thing and then they're back going through a little thing and then they're back But because our ours was a part of a TV show it just blew up To be something that was so big that it became impossible to like connect to or have any sort of like real Like feeling around it, you know, because like it just became so and and and is like, you know We're sitting here talking about it now, you know, and I'm like, yeah Like I there's nothing that like lives in the surface on the surface in me like I you know I have to really like I don't know it's just it became something that was like otherworldly Yeah, it was like bigger than you guys like wait we're back as friends and people like me still asking you about it to this day Because again, I think the media makes it like they had the biggest falling out and you're like, yeah We got like in a fight and then as friends we got back together like me my best friend will fight and be like Okay, what time are we getting dinner? Yes, it's totally yeah, okay, that makes sense. Um, okay, so you guys are back Tell me everything. How did you guys decide to do this three-part series? Like tell me everything? It was during Christmas last year I think so, yeah last year and we are texting and I was like can you believe it's about to be the 20th anniversary at the simple life like it's so crazy and I had gotten a DM from Braxton who's the little boy He was like the little three-year-old on the show and he was telling me that he had just passed the bar exam and he's now a lawyer So I was sending Nicole the message from him and just reminiscing with her Oh my god, and then and We we were you know, I mean this is this is all over text. So I said Should we do something and Paris wrote back should we and And I said okay, let's let's talk about it. Let's talk about it over over the new year I mean it was the first time that I think we both really like considered because we both have had people come to us and be like Do you want to do it again? And we're like no, what you can't do that again. It's not realistic, you know, and no that time was so special and it just was and it was really nice like because there wasn't anyone else on the call It was just the two of us and for that I would say two weeks where it was like just us Carter and Joel knew he came over we had tacos and We just like talked about if we were to celebrate You know the 20-year anniversary what would that look like and you know if that that that part was very nice I mean the whole thing's been nice, but it like that part was very special because no one even knew Well, I think like that's why we're also excited It's like to see you guys back on camera together and even though it's just like a three-part series That's like more than we could have ever asked for because I think people never thought we were gonna get that again So thank you guys for doing that for all of us We and you for the first episode you fly back to Arkansas. Yes Can I say on sliving air? Is that a thing? Slive air. Slive air. I Ask everyone is it pink or no? You're playing it. It's going to be soon. We're getting the whole thing redone I'm pink. I'm obsessed. What do you think the simple life legacy? it's going to be the most iconic show to ever exist. - Wrapping up, 'cause I know you have to fucking go. You're like, "I'm 12 minutes or up." Can you talk to me a little bit about how your guy's friendship has evolved over time? 'Cause obviously you guys saying you met at two years old. You were friends all through basically your whole life on and off in moments, obviously, as friends do. Now doing this again together. You're both moms, how has your relationship evolved? - It's been amazing. I mean, it's just been so we were talking about even before we started and you were like, how has it been doing press with like your friend and just the whole thing? And it's just been so amazing. It really has like spending time with my friend but also working together, going out into the world and doing press together, which is a very nerve-wracking thing. And it's been so nice. I was talking to you about it last weekend. I was saying, "I wish we could just do everything together because it's just so fun." And like, you know, it just like makes it like, we laugh the whole time. - No, I'm so happy that I got to sit down with you guys. - Love you. - Love you. (upbeat music)