Parenthood Struggles | "Four Fathers" (603)

- This is a head gum podcast. (upbeat music) - Now, did you ever watch Widow's Bay? Did you finish it? - No, 'cause I'm supposed to watch it with my wife, and this is what happens. We watch the pilot, we had a great time, and then like schedules get what have you da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and so we're both waiting. Although I will say this, in that time, Ryan Michelle has watched heated rivalry. - Again. - Three times. - Again? (laughs) - She's watched it. Three times, she's ordered all the books, right? I will catch her. - And she can take her time. - She looks up fanfiction at night to read herself to sleep. And I'm gonna tell you this at other part too, and I'll say this on camera. We've been knocking mad boots. - Ah! - Mad boots. - You're like, keep reading it. - Keep reading it, girl. - What's the next season? - Like if you just, you know what I'm saying? Like if this is all it took, so watching these young men commit themselves to each other with that is like, keep it up. - All right, I guess we should save some of this stuff. - We're rolling. - Oh, we're rolling. - We're rolling. - Oh, good. - Keep it in. - Ah! (upbeat music) - On today's episode of That Was Us, we are diving into season six, episode three, four fathers. As Kevin adjusts to co-parenting, Randall faces the reality that Deja is growing up and Kate and Toby struggle to stay connected amidst long distance. This episode explores parenthood, changing family dynamics, and the memories that stay with us long after the moment has passed. - Hello. - Hello. - Hello, hello, hello. - What's going on? - Hello. - Hello. - We're also Jack too. Had his own sort of thing going on 'cause he's the fourth father in this episode. - Right. - Sort of dealing with the idea of being the work of Hallock Dad, having to wake up and go to work before his kids are awake and then coming home after they've gone down to sleep. It's just sort of like, "Where'd I fit in?" I'm missing everything. - Yeah. - That feels like the overall theme is like I'm missing Toby and Kevin. - Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. This is a good episode. But before we get into the episode, you guys good? - We're good. How do you? - I'm good. I'm happy. I'm coming towards the end of Paradise. - How does that feel? - It is, so I don't get too bittersweet until the end ends. - Sure. - I can feel my castmates sort of feeling it now. We shot an episode the other day where most of the main cast will probably not see each other again on set. - Got it. - And so there was a little mistyness there because I think it's, I think it's special. I think it's not unlike this show that we're talking about right now. I think it's something that people will remember for a long time, for different reasons. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I think it leaves a pretty long lasting impact. And it emphasizes like all dance shows do. And I'm sure the land probably doesn't its own way that even in this sort of post-apocalyptic world, the emphasis on the beauty of humanity and the way in which people come together in the midst of hardships, right? I feel like the world of football is very cutthroat, but I feel like Dan will find his way into, you know what I'm saying? - It's hard just as the top line always. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's exciting though. - It's very, very good. - Congratulations. - Yeah. - Thank God another Emmy nomination. - Thank you. - Oh gosh, yeah, we haven't seen each other. - That's great. - I was like, it's my annual text to Sterling. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Say congratulations. - Just put it in the calendar. - I know, exactly. Oh, it's Sterling's Emmy nomination today. - For God-Dot Blank. - Yeah, exactly. Fill in the blank. - This is very, very sweet. Thank you. - Very, it is kind of surreal. I'm gonna tell you guys, this is because I'm a producer on the show now, and it's been two years in a row that the show has been nominated myself. It's 14 nominations. - Yeah. - That's so cool. - It's crazy, yeah. - It blows my mind. It blows my mind because I remember acutely what was like to have never been to it and to watch the show year after year and be like, I wonder what it must be like to go to the Emmys, and that must be cool, right? And to have been able to go like 10 or 11 years, yeah. It's not so bad. - Yeah. - It's not so bad. - 'Cause it's been 10 years since we started this as us. - Yeah. - And you went before with OJ. - Went before with OJ. - Yeah, man, anyway. So that's cool. That's really cool. And it's also cool because the show got, we got seven nominations. - Amazing. - Right, which is up from four the year before. My girl, Julian Nicholson, nominate. - Gully. - Beast. - It's like absolute beast. Shaline. - Yep. - Oh. - Incredible. - Shaline's gonna win. I'm gonna call this. - Yeah. - I'm calling it right here. Guys, Shaline's gonna win, right? Like what she did in her three episodes of television, 'cause she's in the guest category, right? - It was so beautiful. Such a beautiful performance. - So beautiful. - So memorable. - Yeah. - That first episode. - Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so I'm just putting that out into the world, right? But we got for a fix, we got, what else do we get? Me, Shaline, that in the shop. We got seven. I can't remember them all right now. But that's cool. - Casting. - Casting. - Sweet trash. - Stephanie, Josh. Congratulations on the casting board. Yeah, man, it's cool. - Yeah, I was like, I texted him. I was like, Josh. (laughing) That's so rad. Yeah. - So yeah, no, that's going well. Kids, Ryan and I just came back from Chicago. She's actually still there. A friend of mine turned 50, celebrated his birthday. It's very fun to take Ryan Michelle to a hotel. Now, this is what I mean by that. - Yes, specific, come on. - If the hotel is not what she considers of a particular echelon, her ability to feel comfortable in that hotel is zero. - Okay. - Okay, I did not meet the echelon. - Wait, okay, did you plan or did she plan? - The buddy who plan was it? - Listen, not that bad. It was actually nice. - Okay. - I liked it. - But it was nice. - How many stars? - Four. - Is it four out of five? How many we tell you? - There's five stars. - Yeah, then there's four stars. - I would say three stars, then most stars. - Three five. - Three five. - Oh, three five. - Starling Cape Brown. - What? Listen, I didn't plan it. - I'm not a side with Ryan here. - Listen, I didn't plan it though. My buddy had all these activities-- - It was a real act. - Yeah, and he's like, yeah, I got rooms at this one hotel that'll make it easy for everybody so we can go to the bar. And I was like, I just want to be where all the people are. - Sure, okay, I understand that. - Sure, I understand that. - But go ahead and speak on her behalf. - I will speak on her behalf of there are things that I work hard to spend money on. - I understand. - And I would say travel is one. - You guys are one knowing, here's another one. Here's another one. - Can you imagine though, the scuttlebutt should you two have been two blocks down at the five-star hotel? - Five-star hotel. - You know what I was saying? - Totally. - While everybody's hanging out. - Did you move hotels? - No, we stayed in hotel. - What were the consequences? Is this staying at hotel? - Not a lot of boot knocking. Like, he was here, he got diminished. There was dampened, right? - Yeah. - But we still had a good time. Here's a even funnier part. Like I was like, listen, I'd already gotten my ticket before she decided if she wanted to come or not because she had something that could have conflicted. So she got a ticket. And she's like, she got a first-class ticket. Brown did not buy a first-class ticket. - We know that's about you, yeah. - Right. - We're on the same flight though. - All the same. - All the same flight. - You're in the back of the bus. - On the same flight. - I walked right by her. - Right, I had to use the bathroom a couple of times. - Boarding zone four. - She was delightfully just like eating her food and I was like, I didn't get served any food. - Well, oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. I am. - It's so good. - Dying. - What I would, the- - You didn't just do the upgrade. - The shot I wanna see is the shot of her and then just the camera moves over just a little bit and you're sitting in the bulkhead right behind her. - I was right behind her. - Oh, you were. - Oh my gosh. - So you had, you had economy. Comfort. - You were comfort plus. - Comfort plus. - Okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. - That's okay. - You weren't fed a bathroom. - On the way home. - You were fed a bathroom. - No. On the way home I had the middle seat. I watched the World Cup finale on the plane. - In the middle seat. And I was so happy. - This is what I found out about myself. The Chicago flight is about four hours. - Yeah. - Four hours and no stress. - I will agree with you. That's fine. - If it was longer I might make a shift. - Sure. - But yeah, that was- - When I travel all I need is for wherever we're going to be as comfortable or more comfortable than my home. - Okay. - Okay, yes. You're talking about a vacation. - Yes. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. - Like that's my baseline. Like this bed better be as comfortable. - Sure. - Or more than my bed. - Is that normally the case? - Yes, I mean, it doesn't take my, I mean, it's not like, it's not like. - You sleep on the futon. - Yeah. (laughing) - I just mean, I just mean like as far as the level of- - This is, but yes, my husband would probably side more with you sterling where he's just like, it's fine. - I'm just trying to bring mine up. - And I'm like, no, no, no, I'm like, I, I'm not, bougie, but I do like to travel well. - I feel you. - I get that. - I like to become, I like to be comfortable, especially when you factor in the children aspect. I'm like, I need this to be as easy and streamlined as possible, because otherwise it's gonna be a- - Brown is still, I still use the lounges. Like you don't have to have a first-class ticket if you have the AMEX. - Uh-huh. - You can get into the delta lounges. - Sure, sure, sure. - I go into the lounges and this lounging ORD, you could board from the lounges. right? Wow. Which is very, very cool. So, like, it wasn't like super, you know, I wasn't slum, slum, slum. Because brown is also learned too. Like, guys, I don't know, tell me if there's a different experience, it's going to, and then we'll get into the episode. But like, it's getting a little bit tougher to be out amongst the people. Yeah, that's, that was my thing. Yeah, you've been feeling this. No, no, no, no, I, I, for you, I'm like, you are sterling K brown. Oh, stop. You're man. No, no, no, no, we were out in the world. And, you know, there is just a level of like self-preservation. Sure. That, you know, you just need to get through the world and do your thing that like people are lovely by all means. But like, yeah, I think sometimes it's, I would imagine it's a little harder for you to be out and about in the world. That's interesting. Chicago is so lovely, which is really cool because it, what would happen is, and this is what I do now. I just, I'm a moving target. It's hard to hit a moving target. I walk with purpose. I'm going from this place to that place. I smile. I do that. And I walk by and people go, and I just go, hey, and then I just keep going. Yeah, keep going. Yeah. Yeah. Do it that way. And, and, and I've gotten even more comfortable. And people are been generous. They'll be like, you know, man, let me grab this picture. I said, you know what, man, not right now. I'm in the middle of something. But God bless you. And I appreciate you. And they'd be like, right on, brother. And I just kind of keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm now reserving. Most of the time pictures are for events where like I know I'm doing publicity or something like that. And there are people there who are gathered for that specific purpose. And I'm like, yeah, let me take this time. Because usually I'm life is life. And I'm going to meet with somebody or coming back home to be with my kids, et cetera, et cetera. And the time, it's hard to get back. And it, what will happen is, if I start to resent that, yeah, I don't want to isolate myself from people. Like I like being around people, right? Like acknowledging their presence. And I think I can do it without the picture all the time. Yeah. So, I, I love that idea. Let's catch up with Saul. You're about to start a new gig. I mean, yeah, I feel, I feel I've been floating lately. Like I'm the, the, the summer is good. Yeah, yeah. I'm with you. I just feel like I, like, kind of disconnected. Yeah, it's the same day over and over again. The kids are doing their thing. It is very ground. The summer is not my season. Yeah. It just, like, I missed it. You're kids are too young for camps right now. No, they're doing, they're doing it. Okay. But there's something about like, they're not being the, like, the routine of the school year. I love both of you guys and yellow, like, talking to the kids. Everything just goes a little while. Where were you in yellow? It feels like lazy and hot and sticky and, and the trips, the trips we've taken, we've gone to, we've gone on trips, what we've gone to see friends and family. Yeah. Because the summer time is our time to do that. And they're still at an age where traveling with them every time is a new kind of nightmare. Yeah. Yeah. In the best way. Absolutely. Don't get me wrong. Have a kid. It's great. But, like, travel, like, they're like, they just get out, they're out of their minds. And they're like, she's, she's three and she is an agent of Kate, like a literal agent of chaos. She, she seems like the calm one. Oh, she would, wouldn't she? She would. I'm living the same life right now. Yeah. I was watching this episode and I was like, there's a, I, yeah. She can't be controlled. She cannot be quarantined. She cannot be, she cannot be boundaries. Really? Because she cares about nothing about ski. She is a nihilist. There's nothing like, hey, if you don't, okay, I've asked you three times nicely to stop that. Now, if you don't stop that, I'm going to take away. You don't care about anything. You care about nothing, nothing, nothing. I'm like, I'm taking your monster trucks away. There's like no reaction. And, and I'll be like, then you're not going to, then there's no treats. And she goes, yes, there are. Then, no, I'm saying, I'm saying, bears going to have ice cream and you're not going to have ice cream. I'm going to have ice cream. Like, she does not care. And she's the sweetest and the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And I'm looking around, just like, you're an insane person. You are a psychopath. And she knows that she's got it all under control. And she has the scream of a banshee that she knows. Like, if we're in an airport. And, and on all of a sudden, she wants to, I don't know, don't, don't, don't, don't. She'll just like, let it rip. And I'm like, okay, here we go. Here we go. Yeah, we have the same thing. Taylor's been, Taylor will be on for five weeks. Okay. He's been gone for almost two. And I have an incredible mother-in-law. Yes. We have a wonderful nanny. Okay. Okay. But it's just me on the weekend. I feel you. And regardless, it's still like, mom is mom is mom is mom. And so I feel very overstimulated right now. I just have been pulled on in all the way. Rachel's the same. Three different angles. Mom, mom, mom. It's only mom. Even when dad's home, by the way. Yeah. But we have the same thing with because if an Aussie or the same age, it is like, I watch a storm roll in very quickly. And he goes from being the tender, squishy guy to like, it's full on crazy person. You try everything. You can't get it headed off. Yeah. You're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. And it is like, there's nothing that can be done. And I try, we tricked ourselves into thinking, like, oh, it's, he's, it's not going to happen to him. Like, it happened to Gus. But it was pretty short-lived, but it's Aussie. It's so sweet. And he's just the cutest guy. It's not going to happen. And it is happening. And it, it makes me want to throw myself against the wall. Like, I don't, I am so untethered by it by his being untethered. It is. Oh my god. We're going to have a chat with us on parenting. But I'm sure he's watching this episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh my god. Same, same. So, so wait, real quick, the repercussions for you guys right now is the removal of privileges or toys, et cetera, et cetera. Is there like a naughty place sort of thing or anything like that? Just like, I've, I've even pulled out, uh, I'm calling Santa. Yeah. In July, by the way, in July. He's like, what? I was like Santa. Santa. And he's like, Mapa Claus. Yeah. He's like, and I was like, no presence. I was like, maybe no birthday presence. Yeah. His birthday is in October. Yeah. Nothing. He doesn't care. But here's the thing though. Are you willing to follow through? Yeah. You are. Yeah. Are you willing to just be like the birthday will have nothing because I feel like if they get that experience, yeah, what it may be the thing that's just like, oh, she won't have an around. Yeah. I mean, we have had that experience with like sweets. It's like, okay. Oh, you don't get a popsicle after dinner. Right. Gus is having one. Lou is even having one. You don't get one because you didn't eat dinner, dude. And I asked you five times just to try a bite of the salmon. Yeah. And you're, you're not doing it. So I'm sorry. So yeah. And so we followed through with that. But the presence feels harder because their concept of time is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you have more than three and a half months ago. It has. Number three and a month ago when I told you that if you don't have candy, Halloween candy, well, guess what? It's Halloween month. Yeah. I feel like that. I mean, is immediacy is important for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was telling a family friend. I'm like, I, I will never. I've, have you seen Seth Meyers recent stand up about about just his recent stand up? Yeah. He go, he has a joke that's perfect. He goes, I will never hit my kids. I will take off a sweater at light speed. And it's just like the perfect like representation of like a frustrated dad. Just like the sweater like pulling their nose up. And I said to a family friend, I'm like, I will never hit my kids, but I understand. Yes. Yes. I now look back at like corporal punishment. Like, oh, okay. I told you, I told you we're at run. I said, we don't get to hit them at all. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said right. I'm like, I swear, if you hit, if you hit, if you hit him once, there's a lot of the over give him a little shake. It's just never going to happen. It's like it is a practice in patients that I always considered myself to be a fairly patient person until I became a parent. Yeah. Yeah. Truly. I was like, Oh, I have zero patients. Kids will test it in a way that nobody else can. Like they push all the buttons, all at once. And I have to remember sometimes to breathe. It is important to just when I do get frustrated. I'm like, Oh, it's just the taking of accountability. Yeah. Of like recognizing like, Hey, it's okay to get frustrated. It wasn't okay for mom to lose her patients and like get and yell. Right. Right. That happens sometimes. I'm not proud of it. But I'm like, if I can own it and apologize and tell them that that's not okay, because I don't want to model that. Absolutely. Well done. Well done. Well done. I'm trying but it's hard. It's hard. More that was us after these words from our sponsors. Let's let's dive in. Let's dive in. Let's start with the jack one because I feel like [BLANK_AUDIO] - I feel like the Toby and the Kav one, those sort of like dovetails. - Can we also say that our dear friend, John Huerta, has directed this episode. - Yes, he did. - And I very much remember working with him on this episode. - What do you remember in particular? - I just like, I remember John's sweet notes. I remember like the filming of the me coming to pick up Kevin at the mall after he got lost or whatever. And we were like shooting at some, in some little office or something. And he's just like, he and Justin are sort of similar in the way that they direct in terms of like, it's pretty, like they're super organized. It's very streamlined. And they just like come in with like a great little, like just like quip or something, like a question that they ask. And you're like, oh wow, oh yeah. That's a new way of looking at things. Like he's just, yeah, lovely. It's always a lovely set. Every, the crew all loved working with John. He just brings good vibes from him. - Oh, we do? - What's up, Chris, Mandy, Sterling, John here, director, or father's episode. I'm gonna ask you guys something. Do you guys think the Dan Vogelman took a look at the schedule so an episode called "For Fathers" and said, hey, let's give this one to John. He didn't grow up with a dad. Never met his father, in fact. So this could be either deeply cathartic for him or cost him a fortune in therapy. It did. But real talk. As a guy directing an episode, that soaked in dad guilt and fatherhood, I will say that it kind of hit a nerve and I really wasn't fully ready for. Guiding iconic TV dads through moments that you never got to live yourself. I don't know about you guys, but there was actually quite a few moments for me over the seasons working on that show. Anyways, I'm not crying, you're crying. But as Chris famous, she said once, show often balanced all that weight with some pure comedy gold. Like teaching days, I had a drive while a sex tech from Malik gets read out loud over the car's Bluetooth. I could not wait to shoot that scene and see how Sterling reacted. And Sterling's face in that moment, those best faces in the series. Chew away from me. Well, Sterling's face has always perjured. Oh, from the rear door. But in that moment, it was just extra. On the other side of it, this episode actually set heavy on me for a different reason. Beginning of the end for Toby and Kate, that slow-motion heartbreak coming straight at you, especially with that green smoker sitting there like a ticking clock. But for disclosure though, our break was gone once I found that I could keep that motherfucking relay. Silver linings folks, silver linings. I smoked a shit out of some wings now. But I think my favorite part of the episode was that dream sequence between Justin and Milo when they actually got the shares seen, which was very rare for the show. Jack creeping his way into Kevin's mind to help him through that multiple baby chaos he was going through. I loved how we shot it. And that thing lives on my reel for show. And look, I wanna say this just straight, no jokes. Getting to step behind the camera and direct three of you, the rest of the cast, people I love on a show that changed how I think about family was one of the great honors of my career. Dan Ken, Isaac and Elizabeth, trusting me with an episode like this, with these characters, with you guys, meant the world to me, and it still does. Anyway, I loved every second and directing four fathers. I miss you guys, I love the podcast. And if anyone ever needs brisket advice or a survival guide to Fogham and psychological storytelling traps, you know what to find me. Talk soon, peace. - This dude. - I love John Werdt. - This dude. - We had lunch last week. John and I are producing a narrative podcast together. - Okay. - No, so yeah, something called the McGuire incident. - Yeah. - Stay tuned. - Have more news about that. But he was telling me that he smokes on that thing all the time, the green egg. - He brought that home. - That was his souvenir from the show. - Dude, he's not eloquent at all. - Yeah, it's a shame. - Yeah, it's a shame that he just, like, he's so uninteresting. - Yeah. - As a human being. - He's terrible. - Probably the best that he gets off screen. - Totally. - Yeah, yeah. - Just behind the camera. - That makes sense. Well, I guess, like, you could either start with the smoker and Jack Damon, or you could start, 'cause that book, I always start with Jack and Rebecca. - Jack and Rebecca, I mean, it's really Jack, you're right. - Jack and Rebecca, but Jack and Rebecca too, because this will dovetail into an interesting story. Maybe I've shared this on the podcast already, but Jack is just sort of feeling like he's being left out, missing things. He's been working all the time. He's missing the mornings, as he's already gone. - Yeah, like, he leaves before breakfast. His home after the kids are down. - He's been on after the kids are back. - Comes up with an idea, you know, to spend the weekend with him and Rebecca sort of says, like, maybe you could take a Saturday or something. He's like, he's already there. He's gonna take him to the movies. They're gonna have popcorn. It's gonna be a great time. And she's like, I'm not interested in the least bit. Have fun. - Yeah. - He's gonna go to the Flixies, get in the popcorn. He's getting what's he put, is he raising that? Or is it, what's he putting into the popcorn? Which I've never, do you guys have a go to popcorn formula? - No, not like this. I've heard of people pouring candy in there, but it's. - Yeah, I think people do like an M&M. - They do. I've never done it either. - Reese's PCs. - I like, I do love a good gourmet mix between, like, cheese, caramel, and butter. - Yeah, some carrots. - Really? - Sister? - Let's be good Chicago. - I was just saying. - Well, let's have some carrots. - Dude, yeah. - I will, I will, I will, I will deal with that. - No, I will deal with that. - It's so good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's at the airport. - Yeah. - It's everywhere. - It's everywhere. Give it to me. - So that's, that's it, go to, they're getting together. And I was, as I was listening to the movie, I was like, is this an American tale? And it wasn't an American tale. 'Cause I saw it in the credits at the end of the movie. I still love an American. - Me too. Oh my God. - That was last. - Yeah, it's one of the first ones that I can remember going to see in the theater. So, you know, we have that in common. After a certain period of time, does dad get up to go to the bathroom? Oh, no, he falls asleep. - He falls asleep and Kevin sneaks out. - Kevin cares about this movie. - This is lame. Right? And so dad wakes up. He's like, well, he's like, with Kevin. Right? Kevin's not there. He's like, this is like, where's Kevin? He's like, he left. - Yeah. - He's like, no, we gotta go. - Yeah, we gotta get out of here. And he'll find your brother. - So they run around to the thing, before we get to this last part, I've lost my child one time. - I hope you guys already had it. - Yeah, already, already have lost him once. - Hope you never have this thing. - No, no, no, no. - Yeah, Amanda Lee, we were in Australia. We were on the beach. I was shooting Voltron. We went to go buy a soccer ball. And so, Amari was playing with the soccer ball and he was kicking the ball up ahead of me. He said, okay, when you stop when you get to this point on the beach, right, because that's where the hotel is. He's like, got it. And I walked, Ryan and Andrew walk very slow. So they're in there on the thing, I'm walking, I'm keeping up with Amari, but he's kicking the ball and running, kicking the ball, so I'm like, all right, I walk briskly, I'll catch up to him in a second. He's probably a few minutes ahead of me. On the beach, there's a police barricade saying, you cannot go beyond this point. Everything had happened where they were locking the beach off, so you have to go off the beach onto the walkway that's parallel with the beach, you know what I'm saying? So I get off the walkway, come up there and I wait there and I'm thinking like Amari will be there. He's not there, right? So then I go wait outside of our hotel. And then I'm like, eventually he'll wait there and I'll be here so he has a familiar face he can see. I sit there for about 45 minutes. At what point in the 45 minutes did you start to turn? Well, I just like, if I believe that maybe he won't find me, so I was like, let me be in a fixed point. Sure. So I get a text from Ryan a little bit later on saying like, we're in the hotel room where you get, where are you? I was like, I was waiting downstairs, she was like, well, come on up, I was like, Ryan must have found him. I get there. So I go upstairs and it's just Ryan and Andrew. Oh my God. And I said, is Amari here? And she goes, I thought he was with you and I said, all right, yeah, I said I'm going to go down. Yeah. And she's like, he's not with you. So like, there's the argument that's about two and soon, I was like, I don't have time for the argument. I'm going to go down and I'll find him, right? So it's dark now. I'm running up and down the beach. Running. Amari. Amari. Amari, I would run about a mile in either direction, North, South, right? I said, have you seen how I'm in Australia? I was like, excuse me, you seen a little black boy around this? It's not many of them, you know what I'm saying? And I like, no, sorry, about an hour later, we found him. He like, somebody escorted him back to the hotel, turns out that this young boy, instead of doing what the police said and go and leaving the beach, he went up around the police and back down onto the beach, and wound up walking past where the hotel was, not realizing where he was, right? Was he okay? Was he scared? He was totally fine. But like, he said, I'm going to stay close to the beach, like his pants were wet. Like, like, like, the tide had shift. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was all sort of this thing and right, and right was mad at me. And I was like, I get it, you got to be mad at somebody. But I didn't really do. Like, it was just like this weird thing that happened, but you want to talk about it. And I don't know, you want to share your story in a second. Yeah, yeah. Nothing, nothing worse than thinking like, I'm in another country. - Yeah, this is a long ways away. So anyway, when Jack woke up from the head nap in the movie theater, I was like, he was got a laugh. - Yeah. - First of all, if Bear ever tried to walk out, Eiffel wouldn't let him get six feet without sounding the alarm that Bear was doing something he wasn't supposed to do. - Yeah. - The fact that two siblings were just like, "All right, all right." - "All right." (laughing) - You want to watch our movie? - No, Bear, it was at Legoland, a year ago, for it's fifth birthday. And he and Rachel went to the merry-go-round or whatever and his aunt and his cousin went to this other ride and halfway as they were going, Bear changed his mind. And said, "No, I want to go to the other ride." So okay, go ahead and I'm sitting over here and eventually the two come back without Bear. - Oh, jeez. - And he had gotten distracted and he was gone. He was gone for about 45 minutes and we alerted the park, whatever, and they of course have all their eyes and ears. And this five-year-old couldn't see anybody, I was sitting right, I was sitting 20 feet away, but he just didn't see me. Retrace his steps from the entire day. It was three o'clock, we'd been through the whole park, we were about to be done. He walked back through the whole park by himself, passed all, retraced his steps back to the front gate. - Did he really? - Yeah, and it was just like just looking around and when we found him, he was like thrilled with for the adventure he had been on. Which is the worst reaction. - Yeah, yeah, you're like, "No, I need you be a little scared. "I need you be a little scared like me." But he was like, and for the entire year when people asked me to do for his birthday. - I got lost. He was like, "Oh yeah, it's a favorite part. I got lost." (laughs) And he loved it. And he's like, and he's like, "Dad, nobody even noticed me." - And I'm like, "Yeah, that's the terrifying part, bud." There's this little boy walking around and he goes, "I did get a little thirsty." It was hot. And he was like, "I didn't have any water or anything." I'm like, "Yeah." - Yeah, that's what we're there for, bud. - If he had just asked any, you know, worker or-- And he knows what to do. We're either find someone in uniform or find a mom. - Right, there you go. - Yeah. - I was like, "Do not ask a man to be like, 'What do I do?' - A mom will always know. - Yeah, a mom. - A mom will get you back to your mom. - A lot of dads will help, but like, of course. - Of course, trust the mom. - Just find a mom. - Trust the mom. - Yeah, if you're in Legoland, everyone's a mom. - Dude, this sounds amazing though that he wasn't scared. - You know, that he could find his way back to the front. Like, his sense of direction. - Yeah, it was nuts. - It's kind of amazing. And his sense of adventure. - Yeah. - Like, you're not gonna have to worry about him. - No, and this is the interesting part. A friend of mine has said, like, especially when we go on these trips and these kids are, you know, causing a ruckus or a freaking, like all of these things that are a problem now are gonna serve them. - Totally. - Very well. - So well. - Totally. - A decade from now. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Absolutely. - That's a good thing to give you. - Good story. - What, you may? I hope you don't ever. - I hope I don't, I hope I don't, oh my gosh, no, I know, I know, I know, I know. - There's three of them. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So closing that one up, right? He works around, turns out, like, the mall security found him. - In the food court. - In the food court. - Called his mom because Rebecca wrote their phone number. - Yeah. - On the tongue of his shoe. - Like, moms do. - As moms do. I mean, I guess that's the thing. - I mean, listen, I try to mark all my kids material with like, you know, A-brown, 'cause that's all, I try to make it simple. It's A-brown, Andrew, all right? Whatever it is, and then give you a phone number, something like that. - Now, after the Lego land thing, they make them, it's a popular thing. We get temporary tattoos. Whenever we go anywhere with big crowds, it's just-- - Really? - You know the kind of kids use with a little water and the city? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - With a phone number. - Right on their forum with mom, dad, phone numbers. - Oh! - Like, yeah. - Because it's like, if he's gonna be adventurous. - Yeah. - At least he'll be safe. - And he'll be precocious. (laughing) - Wow. - So they go home. Jack's feeling terrible. - Yeah. - They're supposed to have this memory of like, they're going to the movies for the first time. And all the cabs gonna remember is getting lost and being like abandoned by his dad. And mom comes through, mom, what'd you say? - Well, she basically says, he's fine. You have to forgive yourself. You know, I was having this crazy moment with the kids the other day. Like, Kate had a pee. It was just like, everybody was in full chaos mode. And then a ladybug landed on the dashboard. And, you know, Randall talked about how ladybugs have two sets of wings and Kate named it Linda, the ladybug. And anyway, all of the chaos of the park day was pushed aside. And now the kids were just gonna remember this day for this adorable ladybug that landed on the dashboard or whatever. And that was all to say, like, until a day is done, you're always gonna have an opportunity to make it something else. - Yeah. - You're gonna have a chance to, what does she say? There's always a chance that you will remember it for something else. - There you go. - So Jack decides to take this idea and do an ice cream sundae bar with the kids. - Yeah, yeah. - So they all make an ice cream sundae together in the kitchen and it's like a sweet montage moment. - I feel like something got cut 'cause I felt like they were gonna sit on the cushions on the floor and find the TV and watch something. But it does, Amari was watching with me. He was like, how come we never squirt whipped cream into each other's mouths? I was like, I think that's an 80's thing. I don't know, but maybe. - We start when I was a kid, for sure. - Did you? - I actually had no. - You didn't know? - Yeah. - Man, it's okay. I think I have to go get some. - I think I gotta go get some, 'cause he's hard. And he was like, that seems like fun. - It was fun. - It was fun. - Yeah, yeah. And if you tilt it the other way, take a little bit. It's called, I whip it. Yeah, we can talk about that when you're older. - There you go. So she gives him, he's like, look, man, you were able to turn it around. Now the kids are gonna remember it for this beautiful thing. He's feeling pretty good about himself. The day was saved, what had he, he gets a phone call. And Jack's sitting there listening on the phone. He's like, okay. - Good listening phone acting for my love and Amelia. - Great, great. And it turns out, he's like, my mom, my mom's gone. - Yeah, my mom died in the episode kind of. - In the episode ends. And he talk about remembering a day for something, right? - Yeah. - Gemini, Gemini. - Well, great. - We'll get into that episode later, because that one touches Brown in a very particular way, given where we are right now. - Yeah, same. - But let's go. I feel like I'm gonna knock this one out real quick, 'cause I like the two brothers, the brother-in-law, et cetera. About to go take my daughter driving. - Yeah. - Yeah, Randall's gonna teach Deja how to drive. - Teach her how to drive. - He's excited because it's sort of like an opportunity for one-on-one sort of connection. We haven't had an opportunity to do that lately. He's being very silly with his wife. He's got his driving sunglasses, et cetera. But I'm being by the boom. They go out to the car, he starts off driving, they get ready to switch. Do a little fist bump, bam. Exciting. She doesn't wanna listen to old man music. So she's like, I wanna pair my phone to the things. I can do what you gotta do. I'm hurt a little bit. I don't feel like I'm that old, especially 'cause I wasn't even 50. I don't know what you talking about, but now you could say that and I'd be like, I gotta get it. We're driving, seems like she's doing pretty well. She seems fairly comfortable, like, and I gotta say, I've let my 15 year old drive a couple of times, harrowing. - Does he have a permit? What's the new, what's the new, what's the new, is there a, he will be able to apply for the permit at 15 and a half? - Got it, that's right. - Well, he's to be 15 and a half. - Think so. - Oh wow. - I think technically he's supposed to be 15 and a half. - Which means you can drive with an adult in the car. - With an adult in the car. - Got it. - Harrowing. Oh, he's terrible. Like, they have to watch. Like, they're awareness of the size of the vehicle. They wanna lean more to the left 'cause they can see that. But like, or they don't wanna lean away from the left because they don't want it oncoming cars. So they're like, this close to just scraping every freaking car on the side. And I'm like, bro, you're too close. He's like, what are you talking about? I'm fine, I'm fine. And like, I have to like, take the wheel sometimes and be like, this. And he's like, what are you doing? You hate it when mom does that. I was like, mom has never touched the wheel. Like, mom will side see, drive a little bit. But mom's not good 'cause she knows we're gonna make it home. - Yeah. - I don't have that same level of car. - Yeah, it's fine. - Did you guys go to driving school? - I did not. - My dad taught me. - I did. - I'm just driving the school. - Oh, you did? - Yeah. - Ryan went to driving school. - Yeah. - It's not required. - It wasn't required in the state of Missouri and I'm sure it's not in Florida. - Why did I go? 'Cause it must have been required. - You're a California. - I was with an insane person. - Wait. - Yeah, oh yeah. What was insane about that? - First of all, the car is special. The car has a brake pedal and a steering wheel on both sides. - On the airside, yeah. - In case they need to take control of the vehicle. - Gotcha. Gotcha. Second, this man, it was me and him alone in the car for like four hours, okay? - And we were running errands. (laughing) - Stop it. - We went to the goddamn home depot. He bought a, he bought a rake. (cheering) - I don't think that's legal. - This is, what do I know though? You're like, he's like, but I did learn how to park in a parking lot. - Okay. - And then, back out. And then, and then we drove to Folsom Prison. (snoring) Come on. - Why? - 'Cause you got to drive somewhere. - To see Johnny Cash, you got to drive somewhere. - I lived near, I lived near Folsom, it wasn't too far. But I was like, he's like, you got to drive around somewhere for four hours, might as well. See the side. - It's an open lot, is that the idea? - We drove there, there it was, we left. But we drove through, we drove on like a two lane country road. - Like a country road. - So it was a different road or whatever. - And then no joke, the coup d'arras, is we're driving through this neighborhood and this guy goes, oh wait, hold on, hold on, stop, stop. He rolls down his window. And we're in front of a front yard with like a chain link fence and there's a dog barking at us. And this man starts barking back at the dog out the window. - Barking. - That's a good bark. - I'm 15, what, I'm alone with this man. My parents are just like-- - You didn't know the dog. - Off you go, no, you didn't know the dog. He just thought it was funny. - You know what, you got to find a way to make it. - Running errands at home, people, like what the, I got this kid driving me around, might as well get some shit done. - Fill the time, man. I can see myself doing like the exact same thing. - And now, if I was in his division, 100%. Like you want to get a coffee, let's get a coffee. All right, first coffee, you know. - Yeah man. - Then I have to make these Amazon returns. - Oh my God. - Come to the P.S. and make this. - That's really funny. - Wow. - I kind of wish that didn't work. - Yeah, no, John Moore and our Red Arrow Star van. - Nice. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We have friends of ours who moved from Louisiana. You could drive at 14 in Louisiana. So they were, they got to be fresh when they were already driving to school or whatnot. And like this is the coolest thing was to like ride with your buddies who could drive at 14 or whatnot. - That's really good. - I recently just drove through the Midwest for our vacation to see Rachel's family. Very conscientious drivers. Everyone driving five miles below the speed limit. - Yes, drove me crazy. - Nuts. - Get out of the way. - Yes. - Recently working in Louisiana. - Slow. - Mad Max. - A faster. - End of the world. These highways are a nightmare. - Really? - I've never in my life. I've been like, what the hell is happening. People like, and I'm an, I like to drive fast. I like to get in, get going. I could not believe the highway situation. And do you want to hear, this is the most boring, but strange fact about Louisiana drivers, at least in Baton Rouge, 90% of the drivers in Baton Rouge back into a parking spot. - I love to back into a parking spot. - Why? - That's fine. But 90%, the population backs into parking spots. - Why? I'm so curious. - So they can need to know. - So they can believe. - Friends of the pod, if you're listening from Baton Rouge, please. I started noticing it, I started noticing it. And then I'm like, oh, this is a thing here. Why is this a thing here? - So yeah, I need to know if anyone knows. - I guess it's just like a matter of convenience. - Don't you like, but at work, if you're on location and you're parking at base camp, don't you normally back in to like where the trailer is? - Sure. - Or you the transport will sometimes even turn your car around. - I will also say, it takes a certain level of driver to back in correctly to a parking spot. It's hard, it's not easy, right? Even with all the cameras and the things and the boba boba. It was immaculate. It was like they're all professional backers in. - That's really impressive. - No, no, no, no, no. - Yeah, it's not that. - A dumb fact. - Interesting, interesting observation. - Very interesting observation. - More that was us after the short break. (gentle music) - They're driving along and she's connected her phone to the car. - And she gets a voice, or like text to whatever. - Yeah, and now it starts announcing texts. - From Malik. - From Malik. - It's pretty funny. And it's like, you know, I miss you. - The bed is empty without you. - I keep imagining you or something. - He might as well be saying, like, man, the boots were so nice that we knocked last week. - Yeah, and the face that you pull is one of the best faces in the series. - Less you, like, 'cause it, listen, here's a thing. - It's full of, sub-shock, total, and all. - Yeah. - And anger, and discomfort. - And confusion, and like trying to deduce, when did this happen? What happened exactly? - I get so connected to these girls. I've had nothing but girls on this show, on this is us. And then I have a daughter and a son on Paradise. I get connected to all these children, but these girls in particular, because I have, like, boys at home. And then I'm like, there's no separation for me. - Yeah. - Like, it's like, sure. - Have you actually gone and done this? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, how dare you. - It is, like, I'm clutching my pearls and stuff. And it makes me think, like, what kind of dad would I be for a girl? 'Cause I have a sense of what I'd do, like, so Andrews 15 hasn't started, like, all of the things. But I think there's been a couple of things, if I may, be so random. (laughing) And if I may talk about it on the phone, there's a couple of things. - You know, 15-year-old boy, I'm sure there's some handholdings, maybe a smooch. - Couple of things, right? And like, I try to create an environment where he feels comfortable sharing. It's important to me, not just for that sake, but because it's something I missed out work for what John was saying, something that I missed out with my dad, right? - Yeah. - I can remember my father when I was five years old. And I think this is not a curse word, but it's gonna sound sort of risqué. My aunt Billy had a plant called a pussy below. Like, the little-- - Yes, very similar, yeah. - Don't do that with your hands, sorry. - And I remember I said, Aunt Billy. I said, what's the name of this plant? She said, oh, kelp, that's a pussy below. - I'm five. - Yeah. - I said, ah, like that. And my dad leans over, and he goes, one day you won't think it's so bad. - I go, dad! - And he was right. - And he was sorry. - I say, Sterling Brown, you were, you hit the nail on the head. - Yeah, yeah. - You're not mad at it at all. - What, just those opportunities to converse and share of what not like I would have been like, oh, dad could have given me this point. At that point, da, da, da, da, da. But I don't know if that exist between father and daughter, right? Like it's probably-- - Yeah, I don't know. - My question is, did you guys talk to your parents about sex at all? - Definitely not my dad. - Not definitely not your dad. But you were able to talk to your mom. - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, I would still say that I got more information from friends than specifics from my mother, but yes, I was able to talk to her about it. - Wait, does don't do it. Count is talking about it. - Yeah, I think that counts. It's parental. - That was, so Arlene Brown had this real interesting take because she was, fornication is the same, right? But when you do do it, make sure you're not just like pumping and whatnot, you got to, you got to caress a woman, you got to touch other parts on her body and not just be shoving people. And I'd be like, all right, do you want me to do it or not? - Yeah, I'm getting mixed message here. - What are you telling me here, Arlene? - Don't do it right. - Do you want me to practice? - Do you not want me to do it? - Either if you do it. - Because I'm confused, but you just got to straight up. Yeah, stop. - Yeah, yeah, just don't do it. Don't engage. - Not helpful at all. - Yeah, so we get the information. She's probably modified, she's absolutely modified. This wasn't supposed to come out like this. Next thing you know, Beth and Randall are both taking turns getting upset. - Equal parts like livid. - This comedy. - So funny. - Yeah. - It's so good. - I love that Beth is like, okay, we got to figure out like who's gonna lose it and who's gonna keep their cool. - Yeah, like Beth. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - She's like, you guys were both hotter than her. - I loved it. We should look her away forever. - Yeah. - It's like, yeah, at the back and forth of the summer. - Yeah, your thing where you're like, phone obviously gone. Food maybe. Like it was just the laundry list of like, she's never seen Malik again. You guys were awful. - We're so good. - We had fun. That's my girl. - That's why it was boiling. - I love her to the moon and back. Susan Coletti Watson. - So funny. - We have another scene later on after Sue goes to see Dacia and she's laid up in her bed or whatnot. And I don't know if the scene was truncated or whatnot, but it seems as if later on there was information that was passed along that she's now sharing with her husband being like, we were treating this like a little girl. She's out here playing a game of life. - Yeah. - And we have to sort of catch up. - Yeah, addressed. - Allowing, I think that that is something that I feel when I go home, this idea that like, there's almost this sort of arrest that you're forever 18. When sometimes when I go home, I don't know how it is for you guys or whatnot, but like, do people allow you to grow up or do they continue to see you as like, or I remember when you did da da da da da. - Oh yeah. - You know what I'm saying? And it's like, okay, I tell myself that now, I'm like, all right, Andrew's 15 now. You can remember when he used to slobber on your nose and crawl over your belly, he has no idea. You got to deal with what's in front of you. - Yeah, right. - Right, right, right, right. So that's what the message the best thing is, gives to Randall. He goes up to his daughter's bedroom and he's like, "Look, I'm used to this little girl who came into my house four years ago who had everything that she had in a little bag underneath her arm and I already missed like the first 12 years and so I've been trying to make up for lost time so please forgive me if it takes me a little time to catch up because you're a young lady." And even even Lyric would be like, "Hey little girl, she's like I'm not a little girl." And I'd be like, "Hi young lady," and she said, "Thank you." But he was sort of imitating itself off-camera and on-camera and he goes, "Listen, you got to grow up, you got to do these things, but you're not going to go see your boyfriend for a very long time." And she said, and it sound like a grown-ass Eiffel just was like, "Well, that's going to be a problem." And when she said it, bro, as an actor, I was like, "Who? What?" Yeah. "Can you do that?" She was just like, "No." Yeah, no? How was that? Listen, because being raised in the 80s with black friends, I was like, "I don't have a belt to take off. I'm supposed to take off a belt and do something." And I was like, "Oh, I didn't wrote this show. I can't do it." Yeah, but she's, yeah. And it was ice cold. Like, it was like it, no pretence or anything, but she's like, "Yeah, that's going to be a problem." Yeah. That's without what ends, right? Yeah. It was just like, "Okay." Crazy. Yeah. There's a lot of like, ellipses? Yeah. This episode, it's like with Jack now with Deja, Randall and Beth, like, you're like, "Oh, okay, to be continued, I guess." Yeah. Well, let's talk about Katobe, because this is, I feel like both of these storylines, I want to say, like, before, personal nightmare, personal nightmare is not growing up in the house with my children. Sure. And I'm saying this with love to people, because there's lots of people that have to go through it all the time. But I think one of the most difficult things for adults to navigate is co-parenting. Yeah. My friends who I see who go through it and do it well or not so well, it is not easy. Yeah. And so, like, both of these different ways will be going through similar things, but like, that's why I think they pair well together. You want to start with yours? Yeah. I mean, we see what they're trying to accomplish with Toby traveling back and forth to the Bay Area for his job. And it's getting progressive. I mean, very quickly gets progressively more and more difficult for them to stay connected. Yeah. Very quickly. First episode. New baby Jack? I think so. No, he was there before. Wasn't he? That cute boy who repeat? No, I clocked him last week. Okay, you might be right. I clocked him last week, because I wrote my notes. I was like, this kid's incredible. And I wrote the same thing last week too. That's right. Okay, I remember now. And I still don't know how you guys do. But the way that you repeat stuff, I want to. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was awesome. That's all him. He was so good. He's so sweet and adorable. We just start talking. You want to do that? No. Okay. Well, you want to, what do you want to do? Yeah, I don't care. Okay. Yeah. He's great. He's wonderful. I feel like the difficult thing is like, you know, best laid plans, right? Toby's like, I got a schedule. Like, I'll come back at this time whatnot. And then like, some dinner comes up that I have to stay for. Like life gets in the way. And it precludes you from being where you want to be when you say you want to be there. So then as a result, like to make up for your absence, there's gifts. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Every time. Yeah. Every time. Every time you come home. Yeah. Got it. Got to start providing some kind of sign that I was thinking about you when we weren't together. Right. Which is a love language. For young Jack. I don't even know if what your daughter's name again. Oh, good. Haley. Haley. Duh. Haley. My niece. Your daughter, your friend. Haley. Haley. Again, these last few seasons. Haley, it's really good. For four years is a long time. So they, they, Toby comes home, right? He's got the gifts. He got all these things. But they're also planning kind of a night out, right? And, and so he's got, he's got other gifts for, he's arranged some time alone for Kate to go get her hair blown in or blown. Yeah, something blown up. Which is a funny joke. But also, I feel like Toby would have no one to blow out. Probably. Come on. Probably. Okay, writers. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's the heightened the discussion. Yes. Yes. Yes. And she reminds Toby, of course, of the, the, the new schedule on that the kids are on, because that schedule is constantly in flux and, and in need of, of revamping. Right. And he says, well, they're my kids, too, Kate. The guy was a stay-at-home dad for a little bit. Yeah. I know. Pretty good at it. He's also came up because the gift for young Jack was a football that beeps. Yes. And you were wanted to play with him. And she's like, well, this will wrap up, yeah, right before nap time. Do it after now. Right. We'll do it. And Kate comes back to find that both children are unnapped. Unnapped. Which is one of the worst things that can happen to a parent of, of young children. Yeah. When they are unnapped. Missing a missing nap time. You, you got a 17 year old babysitter who's delightful and wonderful, but you sort of question. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. She's like, I'm usually here when the kids are already asleep. Yeah. I'm just watching a monitor essentially. I don't have to put these kids down. And so they're going to be late to this recital. And Toby's like, you know, Kate, you go ahead. I'll stay behind. It's like my bad. I'll put the kids down. I'll make sure everything's okay. You go. And I will, I'll see the next recital. Listen, the look on Chrissy Matthews face. Yeah, she was. I like it. Really? Yeah. She was disappointed. Yeah, to say the least. Yeah. She was okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, see? Look, you're giving her a little bit. You want chicken? Yeah. And it is. Gosh, it's one of those things because we know where it's going now. The audience knows where it's going. Yeah. And so seeing the bread crumbs that lead to it. It's a particular kind of heartbreak. Yeah. Right? Because you're like, oh, they're not going to make it. Yeah. And it's not one big thing that you see all of a sudden. Although I will say that episode that many more directs that have come up, I'll be like, all right, Tobias. Yeah. You thought this was the move. But that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. Yeah. The giant straw that broke the camel's back quicker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Quick turning around and just thinking about like for some for for a being like Johnny King Cade to be sitting in this high chair and to have maybe a memory of this. Yeah. What a weird thing. What definitely? That there are children actors. Yeah. What a bizarre thing. Yeah. That that they're putting little costumes into two strangers neck. This your mommy and daddy. No. Yeah. Want to watch him have a fight? Like it is just sitting there like, you know what? What? What is happening? The other thing that I thought about was because there's moments when you leave and you try to give kisses or whatnot and they're not really like because he's a sweet boy like. Yeah. What you have to do to get him not to want to like kill your kid like. Yeah. Like how's that work? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like sometimes we stick ice in the kids feet. Yeah. To get him right. Like I hope they don't remember that crap. Yeah. That's weird. It's an odd. It's an odd when you really think about it. Yeah. It's an odd thing. It is indeed. It isn't. Um, but hey, maybe I can solve that problem. Uh, she goes sister goes sister goes to her performance of the kids. Yeah. enjoys it. And as she's walking out, uh, Phillip steps in. Yeah. Right. And he's like, I thought I was going to meet the famous soapy tonight. That's right. Yeah. This is like, no, uh, something happened with the nap time. Here's when you know things is bad too. When you start talking about problems with spouse. Yeah. To anyone else. To like another dude or what or not, you know, before you had an opportunity to have some sort of resolution between you and said person. Not good. It's not. It's not great. And then he tells a story about how he and his ex used to get into the same argument about towel. Yeah. Yeah. Being on the floor. Yeah. There's something she'd always leave on the floor and get upset about it. Yeah. And then she was a messy bitch. And I did not approve. Right. And nobody said, what did he say? I guess there was something about this though that just like hurt me because I'm like, would you? Yes. It's one thing talking about it with another person. But like talking about it at work. Yeah. No, it was. It feels just like. Yeah. It felt like, well, I think for her, it was just like, it was outside on the sidewalk after the thing was over. And he asked the question about where's your husband. I thought I was going to get changed to meet him. And then it's like, she's like, well, not a big ass problem. And he was like, this is why I despise children. Or whatever. Good job. So. Yeah. I do say. Kids. Especially the blind ones. He did say that. He's like, well, parents, parents aren't going to like, you know, chastise their blind children. I'm like, would you really say that? That's also. I think it's highlighting like how far apart these two people are. But I was just like, "Oh yeah, well, "Mission accomplished. She is." And so he tells the story about the tiles and how he used to come in and argue and talk about this thing that was going on. And then at a certain point, he was like, "Ah, I'm tired of sharing this story "because it's actually not about the tiles." It's about something bigger than that, right? And she just sort of takes that in. But they do, we do have a moment of repair at the end of the episode. - Well, I love that Toby and Kevin, that's the next time we see this story line or connecting over just being dad. - Yeah. - How, Kevin's just like, you know, I, this is not what I saw my life being. - 'Cause he Kevin's in the guest room. - Yeah, that's right, he's living in the house. - Like, at least you get to see your kids. I don't, I don't even get to like, I'm missing like these gigantic milestones and this is not what I saw for my life. And Toby basically says, you know, I think I lived with two parents who like despised each other. And I think at the end of the day, kids would rather see their parents being happy than together. - Yeah. - Which is a great message to me. - Yeah, this is another hard scene for me and Justin to get through. - With the magnetite? - Yeah, yeah, 'cause as soon as I would like, pick up a magnetile, like, click it together. He'd be like, he just is like, this is what is, what is this magnetile thing we're doing? It was like a little bit of a reach for like the metaphor, right? And the other funny thing was the first time I did the like thing with the triangle. This is actually, it just fully fell apart 'cause it's like, all right, 'cause these are magnetisers. And so. - This isn't a structure. - Yes. - See, so mean, so mean, so mean, so mean. (laughing) - See, what I would do. - It's days. - What I would do every time we did it was like, I'd make direct eye contact with Justin and like, give my body like a little shake. Like I was trying to push it. And it wouldn't go, and it's so strong. But it was just me. That's acting. You guys, that's acting. - That's an end of the minute, end of the minute. - That's right, that's right. That was the scene I submitted for my Emmy nomination. You think, you think there's acting going on in the leading categories. (laughing) Wait until you see my magnetile work. (laughing) - So there's that, but don't Kate and Toby have a scene at the end or do they not? Do they not have a scene with each other? - Well, after the magnetiles, I still have to add that like, when Kevin walks in, he's like, I just wanna make sure there wasn't like adult time going on. He's like, oh no, no, I thought there was gonna be some adult time too, but not happening. Kate went to have that, whatever. So then he leaves and-- - Yes. - Yeah, anyway, I just thought that was funny too. - It is funny. - He's like, I thought I'd be having sex with your sister too. - I thought I'd be having sex with you, isn't it? - Oh, that's right. - But Kate does come home-- - Yeah. - With menchies until-- - That's the yoga, right? - Yeah, the yogurt. - Yeah, and 'cause they were planning on going to get the non-fat frozen yogurt after to celebrate whatever it was. And so she brings home frozen yogurt and as a gesture, a symbol of a peace offering. And Toby essentially starts a conversation about wanting to make memories. And hot take, this was, I had forgotten about this move. - Here we go. - I mean, do you know what I'm talking about? - You both had the same feeling where Toby was like, "So let's make some memories." - You know, grilling stuff. - You both had the same feeling where it was like, "So, well, I just want to bring our family together. It's just some barbecue, you know?" And it was like, I love this show. I love this show. But this moment was a reach, and you both know it. - You both agree with me. - You both will audibly agree with me on this podcast. - Well, here's what I found weird. I was like, this feels like just a thing Toby wants to buy. - Yes, that's right. Yes! It's a $700 barbecue. - He wants for himself. And he's like, "How do I couch this and making it a big gesture?" I want this for our family. - Baby, this is the finest grill that the market has to offer. And it is going to give us so many memories. - What? - Maybe that is, but maybe that's in keeping with like what's been happening with Toby and Kate. - I think partially too. - It's sort of couching things that are convenient for him and packaging them as if they're for everyone. - No, for sure, for sure. - I guess everybody does that to a certain extent. - Yeah. - Absolutely. - Absolutely. - It was just like, you know, like, I'm going to buy us a new car. - Do you want them to have verbally agreed with me on this podcast yet? - Well, I, yes, I'll just hang out here by myself. - My brother. - No, no, no, no, no, no, Mandy. - I just, I can, I can see where Sterling's coming from. I mean, I think this is a part of like, it is to show, I am trying to make an effort, but in theory, like this is something that I want. And I think it would be fun to have or whatever, but let me, let me sell it at. - There is something very commune to it. - What do you say about it? - To buy some defense, to buy some defense. A Corvette state. - Yeah, totally. It's like buying a new car for yourself. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - It's not a Corvette, and I said that because I think food and meals are naturally a communal experience, and preparing something for your family. Like food from your hands that you made. - Sure, I think you're looking to be intentional of like working on something for like a copy. It's like an hour, hours long sort of experience of smoking things. - It turns out to be something that gets passed on because now your son does this thing that he saw his dad do. - Yes, right? So this. - But it has also been identified. - Yes. - As the thing that was the beginning of the end of your parents' relationship. - Yeah, the biggest rupture. - Which is also like, quite a swing for our show to be like dot, dot, dot on. - Yes. - For this lady to be like, all right, but doesn't it remind you of how your parents marriage ended? Cut to black. - Yeah, totally. - ♪ The dougles ♪ ♪ Squiddle, dot, tweedle, do ♪ - Yeah. ♪ Bo-tweedie, squiddle ♪ (laughs) ♪ Squiddle, do, do ♪ ♪ Squiddle, tweedie ♪ - Yeah. - Yeah. - Totally. All of that. All of that. It is. It's a real like, whoa, shit. What the fuck? - Yeah, totally. - What did he make? - Yeah. - What did he barbecue? (laughs) - What is this all about? - It's the combo of like, my mom died. I don't think so. I'm still gonna see my boyfriend in Boston. - Yeah. - Your parents' marriage ended over this fucking smoker. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And quick side note, they've also just without mentioning it, have shown us that Jack Damon is one of the world's greatest musicians. - Yeah, also. - Because he's living on a mountain top. - Oh, he's chilling. - In a $30 million house. - He's good. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He's good. - Like, and nobody mentions it. It's just like, oh, where are we grilling? - By, and it's the two of them. I was like, oh, you don't even have like a party? - No. - Or kids. - Or kids. - No. - Or a dog. - I got a little sort of concern watching him put meat on the thing. But he's, he's totally cool. - Both hands on. I was like, oh, I was like, I don't put, both my hands. I ain't there. Oh, yeah. They're God bless. - And he has a, we see that there's a scar. There's a scar on his head. - Yeah, he did say the scar on his forehead, right? - He's like, is he a Harry Potter? What, what is the? - What is the mark? - What's the mark? - Yeah. - What did the grill? - Wait. I thought the, what happened on this day? - Yeah. - Let's make memory. So that's okay. That's the end of Tobias. Okay. Then as far as Kevin's going, he has, he's taking the manny. - Yeah. - He's taking the manny reboot. - Yeah. - He is like coming over every day, getting the chance to see the kids, like at the top of the morning, or at the end of the day, sort of. - Yeah, yeah. There's a montage of hitting up their new normal, just like, yeah, starting the day, ending the day. - Yeah. - There is, what happens before he goes to like his manny rehearsal? There's a scene between him and Madison. - Yeah, where he's dropping off the, her, her special montage. - Yeah, it's really just the montage. - Yeah. - And she's trying to get the house cleaned up before Elijah comes over. - That's right. - So we've reestablished that that's still a thing. - That's still a thing. Dan's not going to write himself out of the show. - And it's finally my self in there. I get to be with my wife, as another man. - Yeah. - You gotta get him on. We gotta get him on. - He goes to practice. - He goes to, I call him practice. My wife will get mad. He goes to rehearsal. - Yeah. - And it's sort of the evolution of the character who is once the manny who is now the father, and he's talking about, you know, how important it is to be with his family and connect it to these people and to be with these children. And as he's having this moment, he's sort of having the simultaneous realization in life. Like, I'm not with my family. - Yeah, I'm here. - Yeah. And they're there. - And they're, yes, I am totally missing their life. And I'm here for them. I'm here in order to spend more time with my family. And yet I'm still missing these gigantic milestones. - Yeah. - So, the cast invites him to come out for drinks after rehearsal. - Right. He winds up like, you know, foot in the bill. Everybody's like, I didn't even invite you for all this, but since we're doing shots for everybody, it's cool. Right. He's talking to the young lady who plays the stepdaughter. And she's like, oh, we should go to this music place. And she's like, yeah, I'm gonna give you a phone. I'll tell you where it is. And she winds up like writing. her phone number and be like, we should hang out afterwards, right? She 25, right? It's all good. Like in the hood, if he wanted to pursue, he was in, within his rights. Although it might feel a little pathetic. I feel like people see this differently. Like there's a lot of dudes who would be like, go for it and a lot of people would be like, come on man. Yeah. Right. Man, he's raising her hand. Come on man. I mean, come on, sir. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. She plays your daughter. Yeah. We've already gone down this road. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In law. Yeah. Still. You're about to get married. You have two young children. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're, they're at the place, what not. As she sort of in the midst of the flirtation, Madison sends him a text and he's watching his daughter's first steps. Yeah. Franny. Franny's the daughter. Johnny plays, young Jack. Haley is my niece. Yes. Got him. Um, he's super excited. He's like, I, I gotta go home. I gotta see this. He leaves the card open because my man's ballin' like that. I'm definitely closing my tab. Yeah. I feel like I do okay for myself. I'm getting my car back. Yeah. I'm leaving my car. Yeah. Drink up my shit. Yeah. Goes home and she's like, what are you doing here? He's like, I can't see the steps. And she's like, no, they're asleep. They're asleep, bro. What are you talking about? And he's like, well, you know, we can wake her up. Like this is the store car. I gotta see it. And she's like, look, things are going to happen. You're going to miss some stuff. Like new things are going to happen every day. Like this is a part of our relationship. And he's, you can, like, there's legitimate frustration, but also she's right. We're not together, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you see him just sort of like, the resignation. Yeah. Resignation also because I think in his mind, he was like, I was willing to do that. Hey, boss, I want, I wanted to be a family unit. I wanted to be a family unit, even though I not in love with him. Yeah. And I think you can't have your Kate need. Of course. Of course. Of course. In her, like, good for her for, you know, saying that, like, I could have been here in love with you. Right. And you knowing that you don't love me in the same way. Yeah. And just sort of like, I don't know. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, you know, in that conversation, again, just referencing it between the two of them, I think it's something like, at least you have an excuse. Like, you have to go away for work. I live in the same damn city. And I don't even get the same. And I can say that there are times in, in my marriage and difficult times, right? Where Ryan, I have been beefing. And you feel so alone under the same roof. Whereas if you're like on location, you have a reason to sort of justify like space or whatnot. So I'm thinking like that proximity for care and not having like all of it is like for sure. Oh. Yeah. So frustrating. He talks about like, you know, here I am living like in my sister's guest room or what? Not and I can buy a freaking house. Like, I got to move on with my life. And I think that sort of like, he calls Cassidy. He calls Cassidy, right? And she's like, what's going on? He's calling me. He's like, I could have called this 25-year-old jump off. And I figured you are all the way across the country. And even if I wanted to knock boots, it's near impossible to do. And she's like, well, that's sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. You make it real good. Okay. Yeah. But it does now sort of like reintroduce like we know that Kev has kids. Oh no, the way I would have those kids. No, sorry. Never mind. The kids are born. But who's he wind up with? Yeah. It's Cassidy is the first person that we sort of read. You're like, oh, okay. That's a possibility, right? Yeah. And that's that's essentially that. Do you know what I do on Hulu when I watch the show? Because I watch it on Hulu. And hopefully you watch this podcast. Hopefully you watch the podcast as well. That's right. On Hulu. If you know what I'm talking about. I don't let them go on to the next episode until I finish hearing the themes. Yeah. I freaking love the themes. It sort of just makes me like warm and fuzzy and most beautiful. It's a good show. It's a good show. Shout out to Isaac. Yeah. He does this. We have a fan segment that we're going to get into. We'll be right back with more. That was us. Recently, we put out a call for responses on Instagram to the question, when did you first realize your child wasn't a little kid anymore? And you guys really showed up. You did so many of you wrote in. In fact, we haven't even read these yet. So we're about to experience them for the first time in real time. Oh my gosh. Here we go. So let's see what moments made you stop and think, wow, my kid is growing up. Here we go. So Joy H says, when my daughter dropped the f-bomb with zero apology and no joke, my husband breathed a sigh of relief and said, can we stop sintering ourselves now? I love that. Your kids aren't cursing with regularity. Not with regularity, but but bear has certainly certainly been at school long enough and at these camps long enough to come home with some wild new information. Yeah. Yeah. One of which being a dad, I know you're in stranger things and I know you get shot in the head. Great. Good. Good. Cool. And and him him turning to to IFA and being and saying, IFA fuck is a bad word. Yeah. We're in the like definitely wucky, fucky, chucky. I'm like, we don't say that. Yeah, but do you see when they when they start getting into the rhyming stuff, do you think they're doing it so they can say the bad word? Or do you think they're just happening upon a rhyme? No, I don't know whether he knows where he's like, which sits bitch. And I'm like, should I jump on it and draw attention to it? Yeah. Probably not, but I do. You know, we don't say that. What don't we say, mom, duck? Yeah, duck. Ducky. We don't say lucky. What don't we say? This is the tangent to this is any time I'm on set and I have a line where I have to curse. And every once in a while, I just call for a line from Kathleen, who is our script supervisor. Yeah, you do it on purpose and I do it on purpose. Yeah, so she has to go. So she yeah, yeah, she has to repeat the whole thing. Yeah. Okay. Who we have next? Mary Beth. Go for it. Probably when I asked my daughter with a song, Watermelon Sugar was really about and she knew and said the explicit answer. What is Watermelon Sugar? What is it? Is it a song? Is it a song? It's a hairstyle song. Yeah. Look, there he is. He's eating the watermelon. Oh, it's about a vagina. Sure. It's about eating vagina. I believe so. Kind of lingers. Yeah, kind of lingers. Sweet, sweet watermelon. Look, look at what he's doing in the picture. I wouldn't do it like that, though. No, no, he's doing. That feels like too much teeth. Yeah, yeah. Well, he's eating the watermelon. Why are we so you call it eating vagina, but you don't do it with teeth. That's true. Wow. This is going to have it. First of all, you don't call it that. You don't list. No, I never call it that. I'm about to eat that vagina. Okay. All right. Anyways, thank you for coming to Hulu. Thanks for watching. We work on that. We did. We did. We did. vagina. Sterling. Can't do anything with stuff with many. It's all good. These are mouth. What do you got? It's not the guy. Did it? Julie D. Yeah. Said when our son was around 12, I noticed the blonde hair on his leg was no longer silky and fine, but was sticking curly. My little boy was becoming a man. That's the sweetest way of saying that. Yeah. That's very, very sweet because that coincides with something else. Yeah. And when that happens, like, listen, Andrew Brown walks around the house and he's very proud of what he's representing and whatnot. Yeah. And I'm like, hey, man, can you put this thing away? Yeah. We got it. We got it. You feeling good. You don't get about. Yeah. A couple more years is going to be a crime. What's the next one? Well, well, well. I got this one. Of course. Andrew, see, the moment I realized my youngest daughter wasn't a little girl anymore was when she came to me one day and quietly asked, mom, would you hate me if I liked girls too? That question broke my heart, not because of what she was asking, but because somewhere along the way she had become old enough to worry that she might lose her mom's love. I'm a Christian and my faith is deeply important to me. But in that moment, there wasn't even a pause. I told her, no, never. There's nothing you could tell me that would make me stop loving you. Looking back, I think that's the day I realized she wasn't a child anymore. She wasn't asking for permission. She was asking if she was still safe with me. I'm so grateful she trusted me enough to ask. And I'm thankful that she knew my answer without hesitation. Wow. Thanks, Andrea. What an incredible parent. Well done, man. Yeah. I mean, that's that's an episode of the show right there that we did and she modeled it beautifully. And I want to speak just from that from that Christian standpoint, like sometimes people feel like they have to draw this hard line and say something is against their faith. She didn't draw a hard line. She was able to recognize the nuance of the moment and her daughter was going to be her daughter. Tintos down to the day that she dies. Yeah. And I'm a love you. God bless you for modeling love. Yes. Right. Above all. Appreciate that. Right on. What's next? Blair M. When my oldest said it was time to start calling me mom instead of mom. Have your kids gotten there yet? Not yet. A little bit. Like sometimes in the middle of the night, it's like mom, mom, mom, mom. I'm like, yes. What? at 130 in the morning. - Yeah, Taylor, they're calling for you. - Yeah, totally. Taylor knows that when he's home, he's close to good work. - I hope you enjoyed your five weeks. - Yeah, exactly five weeks away. - My kids have made that transition, but everyone's, when Andrew was younger, a little bit younger, like maybe 10, nine. If you wanted something, - Mm-hmm. - Daddy? Daddy. But before she said, "Hey, dad, what's up, dad?" - Yeah. - I'd be like, "Daddy," and I'm like, "What is it, boy?" - Yeah, how about you one? - Yeah, bear has a character, he gets into it. He's like, "Bro, dude." He puts on this character, "Bro, dude." And he calls, and it's fine by me. - Yeah. - What are we doing, dude? - I don't know where he gets it, but if that flies around the grandparents? - No, no more. - It's like, "It's Grammy." - I'm not, dude. - Yeah. - What's next? - Linda T, I think it was the switch to wanting to watch more grown-up TV shows with me. It was suddenly, "Can I watch Lost With You Tonight?" - I look forward to that day. I have it with-- - Like to watch TV with you. - I have it with the oldest, 'cause he's like, "Can we go see the Odyssey?" And I was like, "Oh, yeah, we can." - Oh, boy. I was like, "Let's go, bro." And Amar is still like, "That looks kind of scary." I'm like, "All right, we got a couple more years." - Right, right. - You know what I mean? - I like it, what else we got? Is this me again? - Whoa, that mercy, Airbnb. This spring, we had an incident at my oldest son's little league where a coach on our team heard one of the other team's white players call one of our black players the inward. Okay, this is me. The age group is six, seven, and eight. And so we had to talk to our eight-year-old about it, even though I knew, and I still know that something like this would happen to my kids, and that my kids will experience racism throughout their lives, the reality of it happening and delivering this harsh and unjust truth to my child that makes them lose some of their innocence and burdened them with this knowledge. That was a really hard one. Airbnb, sister, I've lived this. Oh gosh, I've had, like, I've told you guys about this a couple of times where Andrew's been called the inward in the middle of the soccer game. And I'm like, "What? What?" These are kids that are playing. We went to this one game, young Mexican kid, who I love, his name is Alex. We were playing against the team, and I believe they were Armenian, 'cause we were in this particular enclave of Los Angeles where it's a large Armenian population. And one of the kids told the Mexican kid to go back to where he came from. I'm like, "What?" I'm like, "What?" I'm like, "How the bizarre-o thing of a jiggy is going on." Like, unless you are indigenous homie, we can all go back to where we came from. Yeah. Or like, it's nobody who was here except for them. And it's like, that has to be a part of this game for them. Like, this game that is supposed to be about kicking ball, having fun, teamwork, collaboration, et cetera. And now, like, and this kid said to a referee in the middle of the game, that kid was being racist to me, and the ref goes, "I didn't hear it, keep playing." And I got up at halftime, 'cause it happened in the first half. I was like, "That's not something that this kid says, man." Can we investigate what happened? He's like, "Will you come with me?" I was like, "Absolutely." We went to go talk to both coaches, and the other coach, the coach of the opposing team heard it, he benched his kid for the rest of the game. I walked over to the bench afterwards, and I told the mom and dad of the kid what had happened. And they knew, and they said, "Thank you, what not." And then a mom from the other team says, "Well, your boys were being rude, too." And without Brown having to do anything. One of the dads from the other team says, "Not like that. We don't do that, and you need to be quiet." He told her, "You need to be quiet." And he apologized to us and our team for that. And I was like, "I'm so thankful that he did it." And that Brown didn't have to be like, "Are you kidding me?" - Yeah. - Yeah. - We're not talking about rudeness. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like that. It's not applesauce. - No, it's not applesauce. - You're also being impolite. - Yeah, Airbnb, I'm sorry. And it is one of those things. Like when you sort of like, I mean, there's moments that I remember acutely, like being black for the first time. And I knew I was black. I knew the color of my skin. I wasn't sort of deluding anything. But like when I realized that it was a problem for someone else, and I still looked at that moment of like, "Oh, okay, I have to navigate St. Louis, Missouri, in 1988 differently than people who don't look like me." And it does. It's sort of just like, "Okay, now I know. Now I know, no one's half the bad. I'm sorry, Aaron. That's tough. - Sorry, Aaron. - What's next? - When both of our boys answered back in deep voices, I swear the day before they were a little and squeaky. Have you experiences it? - No, the young one's still kind of squeaky, right? He's still got the squeak, and I know when it goes away, Ryan will be like, "What just happened?" Right? Like it happened for Andrew a while ago, as I said, he walks around swinging, and it's like he's so happy about it. I'm like, "Oh, man, I'm happy for you." You know what I'm saying? - Happy that you're happy. - He feels good about himself. And I feel like Ryan will have that too, but like, it's the last one. And we kind of know it's the last one. So there will be Elizabeth, I understand what you're saying. He's still come, Amari's still, when he's sick or tired, even with me, like I haven't had the last moment of picking him up, because he's cuddly, and he enjoys that, right? Where Andrew's like, "Yeah, you'll pick me up." You know what I'm saying? I was like, "No, I guess, watch me." I probably have to do it one time, just to know that it wasn't last time, and I get to choose when he's gonna be the last time. - That's right. - I remember, but here's the good thing about this, what the deep voice is, for my mom, she loved this. I don't know if I told you guys this before, everyone told me how we would go shopping late night in the grocery store at some discount market or whatnot, and we'd do shopping. I'd say, "Mom, can I ride in the cart?" And she goes, "Yeah, you can ride in the cart." And I would sit in the cart, 16, 17, in the cart, and she'd push me around, and she'd just put all the groceries on top of me, and it was fucking awesome. - I love it. - I love it. - Yeah. - So Elizabeth, I'm saying, like, hold up. Maybe you still get a chance to push me in there. - Still something. - Still something. - Still a grocery thought. (laughs) - For a good episode. - How's it going? - Great episode, and thank you for everyone for submitting their stories and their vulnerability. - Tell them where they can submit 'em, Mandy. - Speak pipe. Why am I always confused by it? - Speakpipe.com/thatwasass. - Yeah. - And yeah, do it. - It's pearls. - Or else, you know what I'm saying? "If you follow us on IG or whatnot, drop something in the comments or whatnot." But this was fun, and this is to our producers. Very nice balance of the super sincere and a little bit more light. Yeah, I like this. We went out to support our sponsors. Tell a friend about the show. Watch us as they're early on Hulu. - Yes. - Yeah, do all the things. - Do all the things. - We're getting to the end of the road, my friends. ♪ We hold on with come ♪ - We need rights if you sing anymore. - This, yeah, this was 603, so. - 603. - You know where we're headed. We got fitting more. Man, you want to look in the camera? You want to tell me the name of this show? - That was us. - That was us, his film, that rabbit-grinned studios and produced by rabbit-grinned productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ♪ Da-da-da-da-da-da ♪ ♪ Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da ♪ ♪ That was us ♪ - That was a hit-gun podcast. [BLANK_AUDIO]