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Get free shippings on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK too. That's q-u-i-n-c-e.com/campia. Well, greetings and salutations everybody. Welcome to the best day. I move really to show on the planter at the John Campy Show, kind of from right here, from my dilapidated yet slightly renovated garage. I'm of course your host, John Campy, a great to have you guys here. And I'm joined on this Monday. Oh, well, actually he's making his return now. Well, one of the only Christian Harlow office here, ladies and gentlemen, Christian, how you doing, sir? I'm good, man. It's still getting over that jet lag, but it's it's getting better. Yeah, the flight is real. The jet lag is real. That's why I'm going to be driving it next week, but I'll talk about that in just a few minutes. Also joining us of course is our technical producer, Jonathan Voiko. How you doing, Jonathan? I'm all right, considering it's Monday. Hello, everybody. And of course, most importantly, you guys are here. Thank you so much for being here and making our little show a part of your day. And here's how today's show is going to go. We're going to start off by talking about a number of predetermined topics we got lined up for you guys. Then in the second part of the show is where we're going to take your live comments and questions. If you guys have a thought theory opinion or question you'd like to send in as long as I deem it appropriate to be addressed on the show. And I'm going to let you know they're just about full. So I'm only going to leave the super chats open for a few more minutes. Go ahead and use the super chat feature and firing them in there. And we'll get around to those in the second part of the show. Also going to let you guys know this. We're starting the next leg of the movie Meetup tour. We have just announced that starting in a couple of weeks, we're going to do five cities. We are going to do Nashville, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, North Carolina, Atlanta, Georgia, and St. Louis, Missouri. So we're going to be doing those five cities. And I believe the first one is going to be Nashville on I believe Thursday, the third of September. I'll put out the exact dates pretty soon here for that. But those five cities are going to be the next five stops we make on the movie Meetup tour. So keep your eyes open and start getting your schedules ready. All right. With that all down guys, let's get things going here. Shall we and we're going to start off with this. You know, Denis Villeneuve of course is known as one of the top one, maybe the top one, certainly in the top two or three best directors in the world right now. And a lot of people he put got put on their map with Sicario. Well, Josh Brolin just came out and said that Sicario three is actually going to be happening. This is what the folks over at Deadline had to say they said after nearly a decade CIA officer Matt Graver is still waging his war against Mexican drug cartels and Taylor Sheridan Sicario Cinematic Universe. Josh Brolin, who starred as Matt Graver in Sicario 2015 and Sicario Day of the Soldado 2018 recently revealed that a third installment in the Sheridan pen action thriller franchise is happening in the near future. All right. Couple of things that should be sort of mentioned here. Number one is that this is not an official green light announcement. I mean just because an actor says, yeah, we're putting this together. Don't forget at some point a studio actually the people paying for it to happen at some point have to say yes, go ahead and do it. And right now we don't have an official green light on that. But Josh Brolin has said they're rolling ahead and doing it. Now I have two different thoughts about it. Number one, while I did not love Day of the Soldado, I'm going to admit I didn't love that one. I do love Sicario. So I'll be down for them taking a third swing at it. I totally will be. But my second thought kind of is as surprise because regardless of how well and how fondly we remember the Sicario movies, the reality is they didn't do much at the box office. Like the first Sicario made 46 million domestically made 84 million worldwide. 84. And then Sicario Day of the Soldado, the follow-up made less, made 75 million dollars world. Remember guys, we're not talking about opening weekend. We're not talking about domestic. We're talking worldwide grand total, 84.9 million and 75 million respectively. So you know, guys, I am absolutely all for seeing another Sicario movie. But I do have to admit, I'm, I'd be kind of surprised if a studio actually says they're going to give it a green light because I don't know that I see the financial model for it. And I don't know how you can go into a boardroom and make the pitch that this will be profitable for the studio because the other ones, I believe the budget of the first one was 30 million. And I think the budget of the second one was only 35. But can you do that with the third one? Who do you get to direct it? I don't know. So Christian, let me, I guess a couple of questions for you would be, do you think this is a good idea to do another Sicario movie? And what do you think the chances are that it actually does happen? So many variables that go into that question. All right, because you got the first side of it is, Josh Bowling's been talking about Sicario three for quite a bit. My, I don't know if this is true or not, but my guess is he's probably a producer of it. So he's probably going to say after, you know, third movie is probably going to be a producer and get a producer credit. So he's like, we're making it happen. Now, the question is going to be, um, who are they going to get on board? Because the stock in Sheridan has risen dramatically since 2018. Yeah. So that's probably the selling point for what they're doing. Now, who's the studio that's doing it, John? Is it Paramount? I, I don't know, I don't know if anybody's picked it up. I don't know. I can't remember who originally, yeah, the original first two. I want to say universal, but you could be right, Jonathan. Maybe you could look Lionsgate. It's Lionsgate. It was Lionsgate. So we were both wrong. No, no, I didn't know. I wasn't sure because if it was Paramount, I said, there's the whole ending of problems because he's not getting along with Paramount right now, Sheridan, but, um, but if they're going to Lionsgate and they do that and they can find a way to do it. And my, my other, which by being Lionsgate kind of gets rid of my other point, my thing was that because you said, why would they make that if they didn't have, there was only $30 million budget and early making like 70 on this one, why would they do this? My answer would be, well, we're in a different age now. And if we're going off of Taylor Sheridan's and streaming stuff, that is probably going to perform pretty well on streaming as well. So if they can get that $70 million back in the bank and do it and get a little bit more and make it kind of like a TV streaming movie too, but I don't know where Lionsgate would take it ultimately. Let's say to sell it to Netflix or something, and it could be a different because Sony picked up the second one. Oh, maybe. Okay. So maybe, but it's still where the industry went. I don't know, but either way, you can see with some of the movies that get greenlit today and certain things that are getting put out there and like, why did they just go to streaming anyway? Like that romantic comedy that just came out recently and said, why did they put that in the theaters? This is where taking a shot on, I think is it's an alternate program. I wouldn't go past that $25, $30 million budget. If you go past that, that's pretty stupid. But the major factor is if they can get the need to come back and do it after what we think will be big success with Dune three, then there's a definite reason why you would do it. But he's doing bond. Yeah, he's got. Yeah, that's that's the point. The right like as soon as he's as soon as Dune has its red carpet premiere, he's rolling into the 007 offices. And then he's going to be working on bond for the next two plus. Sure, but John, but John, if you're, if you're whatever studio is and Denise has listened, I'll do it. But I won't be able to do it for two more years after bond or three more years. You go, okay, well, wait for you because it's like, we were, we were in weighted since 2018. What's another three years? The drug war isn't going anywhere. That's also a few more tax brackets. Yeah. Yeah. And because like Dene isn't the same guy like you mentioned Taylor Sheridan is a much bigger name now than he was then. Dene is clearly a, and he might have an Oscar on his mantle by the time this rolls around. So like, how can you convince a Deneville move? Hey, come back to this franchise that made 80 million bucks. You're going to be passionate for it. And his paycheck, his paycheck alone would probably make up half the budget at this point. So I, I mean, I'll say to him, Brolin, how tired of here? I'm rolling. That's the question. I, listen, I'd be down for it because you're right. I mean, Brolin is working with him right now and Dune. Maybe he'll be the new, maybe he'll be the new M, maybe Josh Brolin will put on the British accent and be the new M in James Bond. Yeah. But think about, but think about that, John, if you're, if he's shooting Dune three right now and he's having those conversations and he's talking to He's been talking about the car three long. You don't think he, if he really wants us to happen, he didn't bring it up to the knee and then it just happens to be like he starts talking and then I was like, yeah, look, it's happening. Like maybe he did have that conversation and maybe didn't he wants to do it. - Sure, but it's one thing for me to ask you, if you could buy me lunch. Hey, no, hey, hey, if you buy me lunch versus, hey, can I get your next two years locked up, please? - I heard that totally. - Roger Deacon's also shot that first one. - Oh sure did, and then I wonder would Danny be okay with going back to digital, 'cause there's no way they're gonna do that on film. That's a different budget. - Yeah, I don't think this is gonna get obsessed with it. - Yeah, I think the chances of getting him are something that I'm just saying, if you, just to answer your question earlier though, like why would they do it? If you get him, you make it. It would be for sure. - I agree for sure, yeah. - Yeah, I think you're right. If somehow in some parallel universe, if you can get Danny Villanuev to agree to come and direct it, then a studio will set up and go, okay, well, okay, yeah, let's do this then, because then you're also gonna attract a lot of talent. - Sure. - Well, it's also what you said before though, the difference between one and two, two is fine, one is special. - Yeah, it is. Yeah, one at that ending. Oh my God, that ending for best. Anyway guys, question is for you. What do you think about this? Josh Brolin is saying, we're gonna do, it's a Cario 3. I mean, he's not the one writing the checks for it, so we'll have to hear somebody who will step up and say that, under what circumstances do you see it actually happening? Would you be interested in it? Whatever you guys think, jump down into the comments section below and let us know your thoughts. All right guys, with that down, let's move on to this, shall we? You know, Spider-Man is at least brand new day, is racing now towards becoming the third highest-grossing film in history. Now whether it can get to number two or number one, that remains to be seen, but it is made all the money. We've been talking about it for weeks now, just about how impressive it's been. The official number right now, although it's actually higher than this, the numbers haven't updated yet, but officially as of this moment, the number sits at $2.2 billion. The actuals are a little bit higher than that, but again, those numbers will come in in a little bit. And yesterday, I did an open mic. And on the open mic, kind of a topic came up about, what are the things that went into Spider-Man making that much money? And one of the things that I talked about was that, well, you know, the fact that Marvel has kind of been turning things around the last two years, like that big consistency problem we've had for ever since Endgame, seems to have been course corrected with quality projects, right? And that has not the reason Spider-Man has been so successful. It would have been really successful anyway, but I said, that's one of the things. So somebody said, you know what you should do? Talk about the five reasons. Why Spider-Man has achieved this ridiculous amount of success? So that's what we're going to do. Now, let me say this before we start jumping into my five at any rate. This truly is a situation where it takes a village. You know, it's not just five reasons why Spider-Man brand new day has already passed 2.2 billion dollars. There's a lot of other ones as well. These are just the five that really stand out to me and while there's more. But before I get into the five, I have to at least mention one honorable mention that I didn't put on my five. And I'm kind of doing this in case Rob was here, Rob would have been saying this one too. Is that while again, none of these are the reason, these are all just contributing things. I think part of is that Zendaya and Tom Holland as a couple have become America's sweethearts. They've just become America's sweethearts. They are TMZ fodder, they are everything. Like everybody just loves them as a couple. And I think their popularity as a couple has kind of gone into helping the movie. Yeah, that's an honorable mention. That's an honorable mention. So let's go into my five things here. And I'm just going to list all of them very quickly and then we'll go into each one. So here are the five, what I think are the five primary reasons. That Spider-Man's done so well. Number one, the quality of the previous three Spider-Man films. Number two, Spider-Man may just be globally the most popular superhero. Number three, again, what I talked about yesterday on open mic, the MCU has been showing a return to consistent quality. Number four, the pure excitement about Doomsday has contributed to it. And number five, and maybe most importantly, it's just a damn excellent movie. The movie is just fantastic. And that has certainly helped with a lot. So let's let me just go through each one of these ones quickly. Number one, the quality of the previous three previous films. The John Watts films were wonderful. You know, they were, and that was a tall task, guys. It was a tall task they were facing because they were rebooting Spider-Man like for the third time in just a handful of years. We had gone from Toby to Andrew and now all of a sudden we're rebooting him again. And it was a tall order and what John Watts was able to do with far from home, no way home, homecoming. I just thought was wonderful. I love all three of those movies. Now I do think this one is the best of the Tom Holland movies, but I think the very fact, it's not a coincidence that you saw the box office building as the movies progressed because every time they put one out, it was just really good. And that absolutely, because if all three of those movies were stinkers, we would not be sitting here talking about a Spider-Man brand new day being a $2.2 billion film. Like I don't think anybody on the planet would disagree with that. If those three films had all been bad, we would certainly not be sitting here talking about a $2.2 billion brand new day. Just would not be happening. And yet, here we are. It is what's happened. So let's go over to the second one. Spider-Man is probably globally the most popular superhero. I mean, there could be an argument here with Batman as well, which is fair enough that there could be an argument. But there is certainly no doubt that you can feel comfortable saying he is the most. And you're certainly not wrong if you at least say one of the most. And that obviously has gone into not only helping brand new day, but of course, it's also helped the other Spider-Man movies as well. All right. Then we move on to the MCU looking like a return to quality over the last couple of years. Look, we won't relitigate the whole thing we did on open Mike last night. But one of the point I made was that since endgame, up until endgame, Marvel was always up here. After endgame, it was hit and miss. Hit and miss. Every time you'd have like a great, I don't know, Shang-Chi, you'd then get a black widow. Every, for every Guardians of the Galaxy 3 you had, you had an Ant-Man on the Wasquandomania. For every one division you had, you had an Avenger or you had a Secret Invasion, right? It was just so blotched up and down, up and down, absolutely no consistency. And as I always say on the show, we went from whenever we would go to a Marvel project, we went from expecting it to be excellent, and that got downgraded to whenever we'd go to a Marvel project, we just hoped it would be good. We went from expecting it to be excellent, to hoping it would be good. But in the last little while, that has started to change, right? They have done a lot more right, and I'm not necessarily talking box office because certainly Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four didn't blow it out of the water with box office. But the fact of the matter is, Thunderbolts, I like it more than most people, it was a very good movie. Fantastic Four, I didn't like quite as much, but I thought it was a solid fun film in, and I went to go see it two, three times. Wonder Man was way better than had any business being. I think Daredevil born again has been a very, very solid show. He had Deadpool and Wolverine was like, "Yeah, we had Captain America." You know, oopsie, doopsie four, yeah, okay. So that was the one stumble, but overall, they have just really been getting themselves back on track, and I absolutely believe that over the past year and a half or two, the audience has slowly been starting to gain confidence in the MCU again, and I think that has contributed. Not the cause, but contributed to Spider-Man success. Number four, you're sticking your head in the sand if you don't think the overall excitement about Doomsday also contributed. As do I believe the excellence of Spider-Man is gonna contribute to the success of Doomsday as well, it's a symbiotic relationship, but I absolutely believe, there you go, absolutely, you see what I did there? It's absolutely the big hype of momentum behind Doomsday, absolutely played a part, it absolutely played a part. And again, at number five for me, it's just an excellent movie. 'Cause look, you could have broken the all-time opening weekend box office record, which it did with 360 million. That's great. If the movie wasn't really good, the momentum then dies, and you don't get to 2.2 billion. But the fact of the matter is, people have been going back repeatedly, people have been telling their other friends they need to go see it, people have been dragging their other friends to go see it, and it's just being an excellent movie is probably the biggest contributor to this. So again, there's more than just this, it's not any one of them, but I think five of the big contributing factors here is the quality of the three previous films. Spider-Man being globally the most popular character, MCU returning to form, the Doomsday excitement and Spider-Man 5, just Spider-Man brand new day, just being an excellent, excellent film. So anyway, Christian, you're sitting in your laboratory out there in New York and you're watching all this unfolding, Spider-Man's closing in on the number three spot of all time. What do you see being the main contributing factors to that? Well, those top five ones that you have in there, I would say, you know, you said, you know, it's not just those, it's just part of it, those, a lot of those top five were my top five. And even when you said at the end there with, that's a damn good movie, you mentioned my number six, which would be the repeat viewing aspect of it. And because it's just so good and people want to see it, they're going back and that's, that is going to always add into whether or not you keep crossing over are people going back to the theater to watch it, which is not an easy trick to do these days. It's hard enough to get people to go in the theater to see it once, much less twice, three times. And that's this kind of movie. The other thing that added to it was the early inclusion of the IMAX screenings because, you know, they took out Odyssey a little earlier and added, no, was it the major factor? No, but it's just another reason of adding a little more money because people then said, boy, I saw it once and I saw it in Dolby now, I want to see it in IMAX and so that happened. The other main reason, which kind of is what you were mentioning, but I think that it should be brought up is that this movie is an event film. And it's what a lot of things used to be, but ceased to be. And instead of just studios putting out big, huge movies just for the sake of it, this felt special as we were saying. And that's because of everything that you had mentioned with the cast chemistry, the fact that everything that they had been through before, that this was essentially a sequel to that big, huge brand, no way home. And leading off of that into that, I mean, that was, that's another crucial thing. Yes, the movies were all three of those were good, but brand new, I keep saying that, not brand new day, but no way home was such a big movie and because you brought all three of the Spider-Man's together and then there was this cliffhanger of an ending, you're like, where's it going to go? And then because you had so much time in between, it built up the anticipation. You're like, wait a minute, what's happening with this guy? Is it going to be a ground Spider-Man? Is this going to, ground little Spider-Man? Is this going to happen? And so that just made it feel more special. And the other thing, which is a smaller factor, but I think still a major thing, you look at all the hype right now out of D23 and the major thing that everybody, what we talked about it on your show during that panel was, who's going to be the X-Men? Who's going to be the X-Men? The X-Men? X-Men, X-Men. You get the first real introduction of those X-Men in this movie and that's going to be their future moving forward. So that bit, even though it was the worst kept secret ever, it still was a great marketing tool. And so it helped out who's she going to be, who's she going to be, who's she going to be, and that also plays into you mentioned before with Zendaya and Tom Holland bringing people in because they're the couple, let's not forget about Sadie Sink and her youthful audience from Stranger Things and everything like that. That's a good point. By bringing in, it's the reason certain movies, like we forget, we're at a generation where we want to see movies, we want to go and see stuff, but a lot of us are just streaming it from our couch. The goal is to get the young people in the theater. This movie did that. Yeah. Guys, question is for you. Spider-Man just continues to keep on rolling. It's heading towards being probably the number three all-time box office film. What do you attribute it to? Now, the real answer is that there's probably dozens of reasons that make up the whole thing, but what are some of the key ones to you? Whatever you guys think, jump down in the comments section below and let us know your thoughts. All right, guys, with that down, let's move on to this, shall we? Well, sticking on the topic of the MCU, one of the very interesting movies about to come out, I guess, re-come out, come out of the closet, whatever it is, is Avengers Endgame is coming back. Hopefully, now, this time, it's changed its name. Avengers Endgame is no longer Avengers Endgame, no, no, no, Steve is now Larry, Avengers is now Avengers Endgame Encore. And according to the reports, it comes out in September. According to the reports, the tickets are going to go on sale tomorrow. This comes us from the friends over at Coming Soon, who write this, Marvel Studios is bringing back its biggest blockbuster with a twist that fans won't want to miss. Reports have revealed that when tickets for Avengers Endgame Encore will go on sale ahead of the expected return. Marvel Studios will release Avengers Endgame Encore in theaters next month as an extended cut of the 2019 blockbuster. Additionally, the re-release adds new footage ahead of Avengers Doomsday this December. Tickets went on sale, Tuesday, August 25th, that'll be tomorrow, tickets will go on sale. They should say Tuesday, August 25th, based on updated theater listings from AMC and regal. Now, as of right now, I don't think this has been officially confirmed. But what everybody everywhere right now is saying is that these tickets are indeed going on sale tomorrow, which is interesting. Now, I'm not normally a fan of the cash grab re-releases, like it's one thing if it's Jurassic Parks 20th anniversary or close encounters of the third kind, like, that's fine. But Marvel has been guilty in the past of just throwing something back in the theater and saying, look, we got these 10 extra seconds. Come give us more money. That's never sat well with me, but they're taking a little bit of a different approach. They're going to have some previously unseen footage in it, not a ton, but some, but what most people are kind of buzzing about is a new post-credit scene that they say will tie directly into Doomsday, maybe even suggesting somehow that the events of endgame are kind of what sets up Doomsday to start with, which makes it an interesting viewing experience. And I have to admit, while I've seen endgame a lot of times on at home recently in the last couple of years, I have to admit, the idea of going back and watching the damn portal scene on a big movie screen, hopefully with a full theater of people, is pretty damn attractive to me. I kind of like that, but it does bring up the question. These re-releases don't often do tons of money, right? It's usually a pretty modest amount of money, money nonetheless, but usually a pretty modest number that it brings in, but can it bring in enough to leapfrog over Avatar as the number one all-time movie? As you see right now, Avatar sits as the highest grossing film in history at 2 billion, 2.9 billion, Avengers Endgame is currently sitting at 2.799 billion. The difference is $123 million, $123 million, that guys is not a given. That's a legit significant amount of money. It's more money than Sakario made at the box office as a brand new film. So can they get $123 million worth of people out to actually have it leapfrog over Avatar until Avatar's 20th anniversary, re-release, and it leapfrogs over Avengers End, but we'll deal with one leapfrog at a time. Listen, I would have said a couple of months ago that I think for a re-release, $123 million is too tall of an order. But if we're going to talk about hype and if we're going to talk about momentum, not only is all the excitement raging up right now for Doomsday and Doomsday, but we're coming now right off the heels of Spider-Man brand new day that everybody went to and practically everybody loved. And I'm going to take a question, I am not nearly as doubtful as I was a couple of months ago that this Avengers Endgame re-release can make $123 million. Look, I still think it's a tall order. It's not a given. I don't think it's going to be easy, but I actually think it has a shot at doing it, even as a re-release that everybody can watch at home on Disney Plus, all for those extra six or seven minutes. I don't know. Do you think this thing can make enough money as a re-release to take that number one spot away from Avatar? Yes, I do, because I think they're going to make it more so in the marketing as well, too, that not that you're going to be lost if you don't see it, but you're going to get rewarded if you do once you see Doomsday. And I think that's going to inspire a lot of people. I think, look, I literally, I just told the story, but I was on the plane on the way back from LA coming back to New York. And there's a lot of movies that I haven't seen. And I started watching one of them and I turned it off and I put on endgame. And I still plan on watching endgame. One of the reasons to be completely honest is I wanted a three hour movie to just kind of, you know, best time knew that I enjoyed it. And there you go. I didn't even finish it. time I got home. However, I still said to myself, when I started it, I was like, I'm going to go see this on the re-release. So I want to see it now. And my head, I said, well, yeah, because you're going to see things inside of this now when you watch it, then they're going to add some other things. Because, for example, and someone brought this up to me recently, but like, what, how did, how did old man cap have that shield when Thanos broke his shield? Are we going to, are we going to experience that? We may or may not. What is, what did he do when he went back with Peggy? Like, what, what caused that riff? That's going to be something that I think is maybe whatever they might add to it at the very end of this thing. Something is going to happen that is going to be that added scene. And if, and if Henry Cavill got a lot of people in the theater to see black Adam, this post credit scene and or this footage, whatever it might be, to get us into Doomsday, that's going to, that's going to get people into the theater. And I think it's going to be a pretty big number. I would say not even, not even just the shield with the fact that he was old man cap. And then when, when Falcon said, good, I'm Justin Wolfus, host of the platypus economics podcast. It is one thing I've learned from a career teaching economics. It's that your life is shaped by economic currents you'll never see. A single price tag can explain things a thousand experts can't. People who understand economics, they make better decisions in their careers, their finances, their relationships, and their communities. And I want that for you. Listen to and follow platypus economics available now wherever you get your podcasts. Does he want to tell me about it? He goes, no. That means he went through all of these Doomsday and everything has an old man. I mean, I assume I don't think so. No, that's a different version. Yeah, it's going to be a different version of that all together. I like the way you put that Christian about how, like, I'm paraphrasing you, but is this something you need to see? No. Is this something that you might get something out of it by seeing it? Yes. It reminds me a lot of the the vision apple pro. Remember, you remember the apple vision? Yeah. Yeah. The goggles you put on. I remember my favorite one of my favorite tech YouTubers MKBHD. He reviewed it. And this is what he said. And it's always stuck with me. He goes, this is the coolest piece of tech. Absolutely. Nobody needs. And that reminds me a little bit of Avengers and game encore. I think this is a really cool thing that nobody needs. Like we don't need to have this. But I think it's going to be pretty cool to experience and experience it anyway, even though I don't think anybody needs to go see it. But I will. And just to clarify too, I'm well aware that black Adam didn't make money, but it would have made less money if Henry Cavill wasn't it. 100% clear. I made one black Adam. Yeah. Black Adam made exactly one black Adam. But yes, it would have made even less. Had they not leaked out the hard cow will be marketed on him and got people in the theater because of him. That's the point. Yeah. I mean, it would have made less in terms of its box office. I'm just looking at its competition that week. There are a lot of movies coming out. But you know, it's like, okay, the stunt driver would have been foster. That's not really heavily. Heart of the beast with Brad Pitt does not look great to me at least. And then you, well, you got your mother, your mother, your mother with Mahershal Ali, Victorian psycho for the horror fans. Obviously of a primetime. Okay. That might be some competition. And then the biggest is probably forgotten island, which is the animated movie. Right, which is, which is the best animated film of the year, by the way. It's my mind. Having not seen, having not seen Wildwood yet. But so you saw that one? I've seen it twice. Oh, wow. It's so good. Wow. It's so good. It's so enjoyable. It's a lot of fun. So anyway, guys, question is for you. They're saying the tickets for Avengers endgame encore are going to go on sale tomorrow. Are you going to get them? Are you like, no, I'm good. I'll just wait for Doomsday. Do you think it can make that 123 million, which is not an insignificant number to actually become the number one film of all time taking over the spot from Avatar? All right, guys, with that down, since we've got Christian here, we thought we would take a little opportunity now to play a game of not overreaction. That's totally the wrong game. We're going to be playing ourselves a game of what's more likely? The way what's more likely works is really simple. We asked you guys to send in some scenarios for us to pick of which is more likely. Jonathan's got a few picked out in front of them there. So Jonathan, what do we got? All right, first up. We'll start with Christian on this one. Is this what's more likely in this scenario? This comes from a mean mashup and our rated film passing two billion dollars at the box office or horror film passing one billion. You got to shot with the first one, the first option soon, and that's Odyssey. I would say two billion on an R-rated film because Odyssey hasn't even opened in Japan yet. And if it does a big enough number, it's going to push it towards it. I thought Odyssey was going to tap out at like 1.3. It's already at like 1.5, 1.6. I think it's got a shot. Now, will it make it? I don't know, but I think you have a better chance of an R-rated movie. And especially after you see what kind of numbers that Deadpool Wolverine did to go that big with a budget and that big with the marketing, I can't see even a movie like a juggernaut like obsession. It didn't even come close to a billion. It was one of the most profitable movies of all time, but didn't come close to a billion. So I would say the R-rated film. I'm going to differ with you on this. I'm going to say I think a horror film. As of right now, Odyssey is still sitting at 1.4. It's closing in on 1.5 though. And it's going to get there. But that would still make it the highest grossing R-rated film of all time and still being 500 million away from 2 billion. It made over 700 million, putting it only 300 million away from the billion dollar mark. You just mentioned obsession. We just had a 750,000 dollar budgeted horror film, make half a billion dollars. So do I think we're about to have either one of these scenarios happen imminently? No. But I just think with the growing momentum with horror, the fact that horror has gotten a little bit closer to that mark, I think everything Christian said is absolutely true, but I actually think it is more likely that the first one to do it will be a horror film hitting the 1 billion dollar mark. Well, it could be, I mean, it could be a rated R horror film. Oh, yeah, then we're stuck. So I mean, because if you look at it, so, you know, because what obsession was was rated R. So, uh, uh, but if that happens, if that happens, before it gets to 2 billion, it has to hit 1 billion. And that would mean that a horror film hit 1 billion first. There we go. It has to be PG 13. All right, Jonathan. What do we got up next? All right. Uh, coming up from Tommy, uh, John, is this Tommy John? Tommy is it? Is this a, or what's more likely here? Disney makes Star Wars episode 10, 11, 12, or an old Republic trilogy in the next 10 years. This is one of those situations where I think both, like sometimes we get these scenarios and say, well, I don't think either one's going to happen, but this won't be more likely. This is one of those ones where I think both have a shot of happening. Look, do I think there is a mind about the offices of Lucasfilm right now to do a Star Wars 10, 11, and 12? Maybe or maybe not. But at some point, um, you know, the brand new CEO of Disney, uh, Mickey Fickdicky McAdoo, whatever his name is, Mick Loven Jr. At some point, he's going to go take a walk over to the Lucasfilm offices and say, you know, those Star Wars movies, the Star Wars proper movies, however well or badly executed, you know, they made us a lot of money. They made us a lot of money. Why aren't we doing Star Wars episode 10? And so I just think at some point, they're going to get back to that again, hopefully with a brand new set of characters and the next chapter in the future of where the galaxy's at and all that kind of stuff. But I think at some point, you have to do that. I really do want to see old Republic. They were going to do an old Republic at one point and that kind of fell off the rails, as was happening all the time under Kathleen Kennedy's reign. Um, but I'm going to say, Christian, and I think it's more likely that we get the episodic Star Wars movies back. Although I certainly do think that the older public stuff can happen too. What do you think? The only thing I'm against, uh, the only thing I disagree with you on is the fact that we're going to get an old Republic thing from, from, from birds that fly around that I listen to sometimes, they say that he, he would, flowing what's nothing to do with your Republic is from, from things that I hear. Um, now whether or not how true that is, who knows? But again, from what I hear, 10, 11 and 12, that's all right. That's what Kimberg's doing. So what he's working on is 10, 11 and 12. So I think it is more likely we're going to, and not only is it more likely we're going to get 10 and 11 and 12, but it's more likely we're going to get the announcement for 10, 11, 12 within the next year. Um, so I, I think that, do you think that could come at Star Wars celebration? I think it should. I thought it should have come at d23 so they had some kind of announcement if you're gonna I thought that they should have followed Marvel, but I thought they should have followed Marvel with an announcement to get excitement again, except they showed the Ahsoka trailer and they don't even, hey, let's release our big trailer for next year. We're gonna release it. No, let it leak. Oh, okay, that's smart. And then they don't release anything as far as big announcements go. So I think that Star Wars Celebration should announce that because that will be April, their big push will be for Starfighter, which hits them a month later from celebration. And then it's gonna be like, "Well, what's coming next after that?" They'll already have enough movement towards what Kinberg is doing. And I think that will be announced at 10, 11, 12. I would rather see a little republic stop because I think you could start so fresh there, have the lure and that worry about the rule of two and all that stuff. You could just have a big old, just think about a Game of Thrones type of battle with a bunch of Sith and a bunch of Jedi in a battlefield with lightsabers, like Gritty and Old School. It'd be great. It's just never gonna happen. If you remind me, remember that. I mean, it's your cinematic game trailer for Old Republic, just with the ship opening up and just, "Oh my God, it was so good, so good." All right, Jonathan, what we got next? - All right, going over to Christian on this one. This comes from Tyler. What's more likely, Matt Damon gets an Oscar nomination for the Odyssey or Ryan Gosling gets nominated for Project Hail Mary. - Well, they're both getting nominated. It's both gonna happen. But the more likely is Matt Damon. They both should say more likely. They're both likely. But I would say, if you're gonna go to Vegas, you're like, I only put $1,000 on one of them. Put it on Matt Damon. This is, Matt Damon has been doing a lot of great work in his career, but I think the last, you haven't heard about him in a word season in quite a while. And I think because he's beloved, it's a great performance. Probably one of the best performances in his career. So I think it is a given that he is, and he really does. He really, he's the majority of this movie. I mean, this is a strong performance. His Anne Hathway and John was on a tons of great performances. But he's the guy everyone was talking about. Gosling will get it and should get it. But he was also just nominated for Barbie in Best Supporting. So I think, I think Matt Damon's a given. - First of all, I agree with you that I think, I'm gonna be shocked if we get to the Academy Award nomination day and we don't hear both of their names. Like I think we're gonna hear both their names get nominated. However, if you told me, if a time traveler came to me and said, only one of them gets listed, I'll be shocked, but then I'll say, I'm gonna guess it'll be Ryan Gosling. Matt Damon, just like Christian said, he carries Odyssey. I mean, he is so good in it and surrounded by great performances. The thing about Gosling in Project Hill Mary was that there was a lot of scenes that he literally just had to make happen with his own performance 'cause he's got either nobody else in the scenes with him or he's got a rock puppet that he's got to play off of. Whereas Matt Damon, as brilliant as he wasn't, and I think he absolutely deserves a shot at it and deserves an nomination. He always had some really good performers around him also to play off of, again, that doesn't take anything away from his performance at all. I just think it makes the Gosling performance, it reminds me a little bit of Tom Hanks in Castaway, where he had to give this amazing, captivating performance with nobody else, right? Kind of just him and there's a lot of Project Hill Mary where Ryan Gosling does that, so I agree with Christian. I think it's both, but if I had to pick just one, I'm gonna guess it'll be Ryan Gosling. - Can't go wrong with either one. - Yeah, you can not go wrong with either one. All right, Jonathan, what we got up next? All right, sticking with you, John, this is coming from Colin. Let's more likely hear a Wicked 3 or a Barbie 2. - Oh God, you know, on its surface, the easy answer here is Barbie 2. I mean, Wicked is done. There has been word of the people who wrote the original Wicked stuff, they're writing another one, they're writing a follow-up, not necessarily for a movie, but the reality is, I love the first Wicked. I didn't think Wicked 2 was all that great. It was okay, it was all right, I didn't dislike it terribly, but I also didn't think it was all that. And it made less and all that kind of stuff, so I think it's unlikely. So I would have said easily, Barbie, but the thing is, Christian, you probably heard those reports and those stories that they're not coming to an agreement on budget and salaries and all that, like they want, like understandably, but Greta Gerwig and Ryan Gosling and not Samarro Weaving. Margot Robbie, her twin sister apparently, want exorbitant amounts of money to do it. Understandably, when you saw how big of a hit the first one was, but Warner Brothers seems pretty committed to being financially responsible, and it doesn't really look like either it's gonna happen, but I'll still stick with, I just can't see a Wicked 3 happening, so I will go Barbie 2. What about you? - Nancy's Barbie 2. I mean, if you would have had a caveat saying, well, what's more likely to happen in the next six months, I'd say, neither, but maybe Wicked, 'cause there's no way they're gonna figure this out in six months with Barbie cast, because I think it has a lot to do with the Paramount stuff, and I'll tell you right now, if Paramount does get it, they're gonna move everything that they can, they're gonna make Barbie 2 happen. Because it's gonna be another IP and it's gonna be part of those three movies that they're gonna do, and they're gonna want to have a big huge number movie like Barbie, and they're gonna overspend and they're gonna pay what everybody wants. But there's just no, they wanna make the movie. They just gotta figure out the money. We don't know what's gonna happen with Wicked, so it's Barbie 2. - Yeah, because one of the big things a lot of people, I understand, I understand, I see it in the comments all the time. I get it, but John, you know, Barbie made $1.3 billion. Yes, but Warner Bros. is still licking the wound of Joker 2, Falea 2. 'Cause the first Joker made over $1 billion, right? No brainer, pay everybody all the money and look what happened. Not to say that's what would happen with Barbie, but I mean, Warner Bros. has to keep that in mind. You can't just assume that the next one's gonna make the same amount of money as the last one. So it's, it makes it tough, but it's completely understandable with the success that it had, that Gerwig and Gosling and crew that they would wanna get paid more. So let's see if they were able to come to something. All right, I think we got one more, don't we, John? - One more. - One more, this comes from Josh Miller, John. What's more likely here, Captain Marvel 3 or an Atman 4? - Well, technically speaking, it would be Captain Marvel 2 since the Marvels was the Marvels. It wasn't a Captain Marvel 2, and again, I don't think, I don't think the Marvels was as bad as a lot of people made it out to be. I also don't think it was a particularly good movie. I don't, but I don't think it was also the dumpster fire that say it was Craven or whatever. I'm gonna say it's more likely for Captain Marvel 3, and I'm gonna say that for two reasons. Well, three, really. One, I think they've moved comfortably into having Paul Rudd's Atman character be an ensemble member in other movies. I think that's where he's gonna live from now on. Even if we see him pass secret wars, I don't know that we will, but if we do, it's gonna be there. Number two, Kevin Feige just really loves the character. Like, he's been on record many times. He loves that character. And regardless of whatever stumble they had with the Marvels, he loves that character. And so I think that makes it more likely. The third one is this, well, I love Ant-Man one. I love it. I like it more than Captain Marvel, even the first one. I love Ant-Man, but the reality is, and not even counting about what a dumpster fire Ant-Man and the Lost Quantumania was, Captain Marvel has already proven itself to be a billion dollar film. Like, Captain Marvel was literally a billion dollar film. Ant-Man films have not come anywhere close to that. So look, to be clear, I don't think either of these scenarios are likely. Like, I don't think it's likely that we're gonna get a Captain Marvel 2 or 3, however you want to put it, or that we're gonna get an Ant-Man 4. But if you're asking me which would be more likely for those reasons, I guess the more likely scenario I think would probably be another Captain Marvel movie. I don't know, Christian, what do you think? - I'll push back a little bit on the Captain Marvel side of it, only because you used to mention it as a billion dollar film. Let's not forget that it was in between, it was right after Infinity War leading into Endgame. - Yes, but an Ant-Man movie also released between those two films. - It was? - It didn't come anywhere near $2 billion. - I don't disagree. - So I don't buy that thing I hear from people about. Captain Marvel only made a billion because of. If that logic was true, then that Ant-Man movie would have made a billion. - Oh, but to follow that up, but to follow up, the sequel to that billion dollar movie didn't even come close. - But it wasn't even there, that character's movie, right? - But she was still in it. It was still in it. - She was still in it? - It was still in it. - Still it was, it benefited. We can agree that it benefited. - Sure, 100%. - It benefited. - Well, that's the only benefit because you would have had to have seen Miss Marvel and also-- - Totally. - Totally. - Yeah, people looked at that and didn't even know who those characters were. - No, no. - So I actually, and here's, I don't think Bry Larson wants anything to do with it anymore. I think she's over it. I think she's over the, I mean, is she coming back for the two Avengers movies? - I don't know, definitely not. day, but whispers are whispers are she'll be back for secret words, but I don't know that for a fact. Right. So there's there's whispers, right? We know for a fact that Paul Rudd is coming back now, let me first of all, I don't think either one of these movies is going to happen, you know, and then a new ant man or a new guy. But the reason why I say ant man's probably is could be more likely is if you do something with ant man in these two movies to get the audience back on board to say, Hey, you know, maybe they'll go back into the heist movie instead of going off this crazy sci-fi whatever the hell that was in the third one and go back to love Paul Rudd. I know. And that's like doing like a fan, another like heist movie with him. Yeah. Maybe that could work. But the other side of the reason why I push back against myself is that it doesn't look like Evangelina lily is going to be coming back. So, uh, Evangelina lily. So I think, yeah, unlikely, but I'll give the slight edge to, uh, to Ant man. Better have Luis in it, yes, 100% yeah back for something anything. Yeah. All right, guys. And that wraps up today's session of what's more likely. Thank you to everybody who submitted your scenarios. Keep your eyes open on the YouTube community tab there for when we put out our next call for submissions. And maybe you'll see your scenario being debated on the next what's more likely. All right, guys. With that down, let's go on and talk about this, shall we? Well, you guys know, of course, uh, that there is the paramount, uh, lawsuit going on. But there have been some developments. And look, just to give a highlight to everybody again, just fall along, because I believe it's important every time we talk about this to just lay this groundwork. Okay. Number one, the number of states, 12 states in total are bringing a law. A lawsuit to stop the paramount Warner Brothers merger. The reason they're doing it is because the merger breaks the law. That is actually an adjudicated fact that it does. As we go over and look, the Clayton Act says that you're not allowed to have a merger if it will lessen competition and at the potential to create a monopoly. The Supreme Court said that the threshold for proving that is if a merger would make a company exceed 30% market share in a given industry. And judge Martinez of this paramount case ruled in one of the preliminary hearings that yup, it does indeed look like this merger will indeed exceed that, that Supreme Court instituted 30% threshold, which therefore puts it in violation of the Clayton Act. And that's, that looks like the way this is going to go. And that is the time when David Ellison changed his tune from going, running around saying, we're going to win this lawsuit. This is going to be great for the industry. We're going to be so good for California. We're going to create so many jobs. And then all of a sudden like that, it's switched to, fuck you, we're going to move out of California. If you don't get me what we want, we're going to move. Like it's, it's the reason that he suddenly changed tune was because he became apparent that yep, the courts are looking at this and saying, this is an illegal thing. Now, this is a very, very similar situation to when Disney was buying Fox because the Department of Justice brought a lawsuit against that merger as well and forced Disney into a settlement where Disney agreed to cut out a whole bunch of the stuff they were going to get in order to make it go through. Now that leads us to where we're at right now. Both Paramount and the States want to settle. They want to settle it. Both sides do. The question is, are they going to be able to come to an agreement of what would equal a settlement? Because here's the thing Paramount is, you might have heard these two phrases Paramount has been suggesting what's terminal, the terminology calls behavioral remedies. So things like we double pinky swear that we will put out 30 films a year. That's a behavioral remedy. We double pinky swear that we're going to treat the writers really nice. That's behavioral remedies. What the States have said they're looking for is what's called structural remedies. A structural remedy requires a permanent physical change to the business, typically forcing the companies to sell off or spin off asset studios or networks to an independent competitor. It serves as a one time fix that directly preserves the market competition without needing ongoing regulatory oversight. In other words, what the States are saying they want to settle is, hey, this deal breaks the law, sell off some actual structural things that brings you back under that 30% threshold and then puts you in good standing with the law and will settle and will give you the green light to go ahead with the merger, right? So that's been the whole thing. Both sides say they want a settlement, they're just looking to settle on different things. Paramount wants to be able to settle on behavioral remedies, making a lot of promises, even being willing to put it in writing, whereas the States are wanting structural remedies. Well, you may have heard that the two sides scheduled a meeting this week, they were supposed to meet today. One and the States were supposed to meet and have settlement negotiations today, but the meeting got canceled because one side leaked, there was supposed to be a confidential communications they had and one side leaked it out to the media. And so the States have said you're acting in bad faith. You're trying to turn this into circus. So we're not going to meet with you today. Now, at some point, they're going to get back together in a room and they're going to start to discuss some possible solutions. I talked to somebody and I'm not the only one. I'm not the, there are other people out in the space who have heard this same thing as me. So this is not exclusive to me. I'm not pretending like I have the secret inside sauce. I'm not. But I did talk to somebody who revealed, and some of this is in the media as well, what some of the options on the table are for structural remedies that could satisfy the States and the WGA's lawsuit and clear the way for the Paramount Warner Bros. deal to go through. And a couple of them shocked me. Let's take a look. Here's some of the ones and I'm just going to do this really quickly. One is divest a major film studio or distribution arm. What this one is basically saying is there's two different ways to approach it. The States are saying, tell you what, get rid of Warner Bros. animation and sell off new line and sell off this other studio and that will satisfy the Clayton Act. That will bring you below that 30% we believe and that will satisfy it. But another version of that is that Bonta for the States has told Paramount keep Warner Bros. as a completely separate operating studio. Because right now of course Paramount's plan, the strategy right now is to merge Warner Bros. into Paramount and make one studio. So what the States are bringing to the table and suggesting is, tell you what, you still own Warner Bros. but you make a commitment to let them operate with their own board, their own budgets, their own decisions. Let them completely continue to operate as their own independent studio like Netflix was going to let them do. Do that and we might have something to talk about. So that's one of the things on the table. One of the other things on the table is to spin off key cable networks and we're not just talking about CNN, we're talking about TBS, TNT, MTV, cartoon networks, CNN like all that cable stuff because they're also going to be violating the 30% in the cable market. So one of the things that I understand Paramount is considering is the idea of spinning off all the cable networks now. As a friend of mine often points out to me, that's going to be very, very difficult for Paramount to do because guys, you know that Paramount is going to be facing a 110 to 111 billion dollar debt once this is all done. And these cable networks as much as they're disappearing and they're going extinct and going out of style, right now that's the money generator, right? Right now that's what's generating the money. And so Paramount needs that revenue stream, but it might, it is one of the things that they are, they are apparently considering. A third thing that's been brought to the table is to sell off production facilities in lot space. We're talking about iconic lots of the Paramount lot, the Warner Brothers lot and a lot of auxiliary sort of things that they've got around there to say, Hey, tell you what, sell all those things off so that other competition can have them. It'll keep employment vibrant, all that kind of stuff. So that's one of the things that's on the table too. Now we'll get to number four in a second. For now, let's skip to number five, number five, keep broadcast and regional ops independent. I've even heard guys it's been put on the table of selling off CBS saying sell off CBS and actual network assets, not just and network operations, spin those off and then maybe that's something to talk about. That's certainly an intriguing thing again. It would be a big, big cut for Paramount, but apparently it's something that their legal team is looking at. But let's look at that number four one. This is the one that kind of surprised me a bit. Carve out franchise IP and libraries. Not just carve out a specific spin-off new line. Carve out franchise IPs. In other words, okay, fine, take Warner Brothers, but that puts you in violation of the law. But maybe if you sell off some big IPs that will mitigate your control of the industry and we might be satisfied with that that it brings you under 30% if not in actual numbers than in spirit. That would include, I've been told this is all in the table. Harry Potter. DC, like DC studios as a whole, straight up being sold off and a couple of other major properties as well. And it is labor-gasting to imagine Warner Brothers under whoever's ownership letting Harry Potter go or letting DC go, but it's something Paramount has to honestly and seriously look at if those become potential keys in green lighting the deal to go through. Because don't forget that October 31st is coming quickly. Or October 1st is coming. It's October. Yeah, and October, where that late fee is start tickets, starts tickets. It's October 1st. Yeah, what was the tune of it? Seven million a day? Something, I thought it was 11, but I think you're seven, I think it's right. It's a lot of money. It's more money than I'll ever see in my life per day. Per day starts ticking. So these, these all these things here represent what we were talking about here as being structural remedies rather than double pinky swear behavioral remedies. Actual things that they need to do to change the structure of their merger that would then satisfy the lawsuit and make it go away much like what happened with the Disney and Fox merger. And I'll tell you what, got the one that, I mean a lot of these make sense. Sell off one or two of the major studio components, spin off the cable networks, let Warner Brothers operate independently, sell production space, like all these things sound reasonable. These all sound like things that yeah, make sense that you would ask for that. All of them would hurt. Like if you're paramount, having to cut out any of these things would hurt, but it's what's gonna, it's what's gonna, it's gonna take to bring it within the good graces of the law, but the one that really fascinates me is the carving out franchises. 'Cause you're devaluing what every one of these things. But the core of what you're purchasing, which is the studio. I look at the aim of these things devalues it though, like every one of these things devalues it to a degree. Yeah, but the core of the studio, not the cable companies and all that, you know what I mean? So the question is what happens? What are you willing to do? Yeah, well the question is also when it comes to the money side of it is, okay, and talking about the ones you're selling off IP. When you look at it, 'cause the first things that I think the three of us, when you bring that up is you think of like you said, John D.C., and Harry Potter, right? Now Harry Potter is gonna definitely be giving a little bit more juice now because of the TV series. Right, and maybe if they do another movie down the line, but D.C. is the one you've still got Batman. You still have these plans for D.C. You still have an opportunity to put a lot of money in your bank if you do it the right way. And how long does Harry Potter have? Who knows, a couple of seasons, five seasons and other movie. D.C., you can make 87,000 Batman's for the next, however many years, if you keep rebooting it and doing the things with all the characters that you have, you can continue to try to do it. So I think out of the two of them, you probably try to sell Harry Potter off to maybe Universal or something, considering that they have it at the theme park. But those are, to me, what Jonathan was saying, he just kind of devalues the, why am I buying this? If Alison is being truthful, we really want to get into movies, we want to make movies, we want to do this. The one that, to me, I get what you're saying, John, with the cable and how that's making its money. But, and I guess, would HBO Max be part of that too? You selling that off too? - To the best of my, that's being looked at as a completely separate thing. - Okay. - So I mean, that's part of it. - Listen, I think that is, look, let's put this way. If Alison went to the table and said to the people suing them, we're willing to carve out HBO Max. I think the other side will look at that and say, well, that's a serious move. Like, that is a serious concession. But I just don't, I don't see that. - Then you're selling off Harry Potter. Then you're selling off Game of Thrones. And you're selling off of it. - Yeah, I mean, I just don't see them being willing. I honestly think they would sooner consider buying a whole ton of Warner Brothers assets without buying Warner Brothers stuff. - Oh yeah, the universe. - Before not taking HBO Max. Like, I honestly think to them, HBO Max is the crown jewel for them. - Of course. - And this whole thing. - Yeah, and the other thing, I think that, that the interesting is letting them operate the way that they were beforehand and just kind of managing it. That would, would the Alison still have, even though they'd be managing them independently and they're running on a separate thing. It's almost like WCW and WWF back in the day, right? And it's like what I always thought that WWF did wrong was take WCW, put it in and just make a one big WWF and it's like, no, they built all this history with WCW and everything you did. Let it run on its own and just run it from the outskirts and do this thing and that could be interesting if they're running it and still having, you know, the overall say, but I don't know if that would be out of the question if they did that. Could the Alison still have say on what's made if they're running the studio from the outside? - I don't think so. I think they would have to put, I mean, again, I think they would own it. I think they would, they would probably have like budgetary kind of stuff, but they would have to put in safeguards. And we've seen this happen in other merger cases where they would have to put in safeguards that would have to actually demonstrably show that studio Warner Brothers in this case was operating independently. - That's hard to do for anybody to let people just play with your money though and you don't have to say in it. So to me, it's like, I think that what they're gonna wind up doing is they're gonna wind up selling off, even though it was one of the major reasons I think that politically they were allowed to get the deal done. I think they're gonna sell off CNN. I think they're gonna sell, I think they're gonna have to bend the knee and I think they're gonna have to sell off the news organizations and do it. I think because you mentioned Disney and Fox beforehand and everyone always says, "Ah, that went through and nobody cared. Everybody cared." We got the company just to suit them. Everybody cared. It just doesn't seem like it because it went through and the reason why it went through is because they did what they did and it became, it was jobs, it was other things and it sucks that so many people lost their jobs. It sucks, but when it comes down to it, when the DOJner was looking at it, they're looking at the political aspect of it first and then the jobs and everything comes second and it's unfortunate, but that's how it's gonna happen. They're gonna go, okay, you know what, you guys decided, you're gonna sell off, you're gonna sell off the CNN and all that other stuff and it's not gonna be a political thing. All right, the job said that sucks working there. Oh, okay, fun. So sucks if people are losing their jobs, but go ahead and do it. It's unfortunately what's gonna happen. See, I think, because when you look at the Disney Fox deal, they cut out three major pieces. They cut out the Fox Network, which was huge. They cut out Fox News, which was huge, and they cut out all of Fox Sports, FS1, FS2, like they cut all these huge pieces out and that's why Fox still exists today as its own completely separate company. Now, Bonta has already said CNN isn't gonna do it. CNN's not gonna do it. But if they include CNN with TNT, TBS, MTV, Cartoon Network, if here's what I think it'll ultimately come down to. I think it'll be a little bit of a mix of all of these things. I think what we'll see is paramount might come up with the thing where it's okay, how about this? We'll give up New Line Cinema, the New Line brand. We'll sell it off. We will cut out CNN, TBS, and TNT. We'll sell these areas of a couple of lots. We'll give up a couple of not potter, not DC, but a couple of smaller franchises. And we'll even carve out a couple of local ops and stuff like that, like small pieces of all five instead of entireities of all of these. And I think if they did that, I think the States and the WGA would look at it and go, though that's a big enough concession, go ahead and go ahead with the merger. And the question would be, if paramount will do it. Yeah, I mean, they keep talking about how we want to make movies, we want to make movies, we want to be a big story, we want to make movies, movies, movies. We'll then make movies and sell off the rest of the stuff and take your shot and make your movies. That's how it's gonna get done. So it's the question will be how much does this do the states want them to give up and how much this paramount willing to give up. And again, I'm going to be fascinated if we find out that in two weeks a meeting happens and they come out and say DC studios has been sold to Sony pictures. Like that, that'll do it. That'll get the deal done, I think, but I mean, I don't know. All I know is that it's something that is on the table and they're talking about. I just don't know if that's a realistic scenario though. That just seems like too big of a piece of the pie, but we'll see. What's been made clear is that these little behavioral remedies ain't going to cut it. The states and the WGA want real concessions that will bring the paramount Warner Brothers deal within good standing of the law. Partial changes will do that. Which structural changes do you think paramount is going to be willing to do? Which ones do you think they're not going to be willing to do? Do you see them settling this? I still look, paramount has to get this done. So at the end of the day, I think they'll give up what they have to give up, but which ones are going to think are too holy of cows and which one are they going to see as being flexible. We're going to get things kicked off here. Who are we starting off with? I think we're starting off with Draco. Yes. Draco, right. Spider-Man is the hero of the box office for weeks in a row. Well, it hasn't had anything significant come out. I mean, don't give me your eye. It's obviously doing great, but let's not pretend it's had any competition. Anyway, and a hero of Minionapolis's past weekend, if you know, you know, yeah, I saw that. Also, I really hope that the paramount and WB merger fails. Well, again, I, I mean, there's a settlement to be made. There is a way to make this happen. There are several ways to make this happen, but all of them are going to require the states to determine what would be acceptable to them and paramount to determine what are they willing to, to part with in the deal because they're not going to get everything they wanted in it. They're going to have to give up some stuff that are significant. It's not just going to be like little Pitali CNN, that ain't going to cut it. It's going to have to be something significant. And so is it going to be something really, really big? Is it going to be a large number of smaller things that add up? Who knows? We'll have to see how that all kind of turns out. All right. I mean, right. Can you please do an open spoiler after show for lanterns on Monday nights? Well, I already announced yesterday that we are doing that. Would love to hear your theories. See what other people have to say and just overall talk about how great the show is. And the show is great. The reason we didn't talk about lanterns episode two today is because we're going to do an open spoiler discussion on lanterns tonight. Me and Rob are going to talk about lanterns episode two. That'll be tonight at 5 p.m. So a little under four hours from now at 5 p.m. local time. And we're going to talk about lanterns and we hope you guys will come and join us for that. All right. Eric writes, I rewatched X-Men 2 and man that movie rules. I love X-Men 2. I think it's still deserves to be in the conversation of the top 10 best comic book movies ever. Like I love X-Men 2. Anyway, Logan Berserker scene in the mansion, Nightcrawler opening scene. And Striker was pure evil. You know, I still think the best opening scene to any comic book movie ever was the original X-Men with young Magneto. I think the second best one is probably Batman versus Superman with Bruce Wayne going through and watching all the destruction happen as a result of Zod and Superman fighting. But I think that nightcrawler scene is still number three. I think that nightcrawler opening is one of the wildest coolest openings ever to a comic movie. And I still think it ranks way up there. All right. Next up. Uh, let's see where we at here. Sin Vendetta. Sin's in a $20 super chat. Thank you, Sin Vendetta who writes, oh no, John, I think the AMC app screwed you with getting those coyote versus Acme early screening tickets. Well, I, I, I didn't try to get them because I didn't know I couldn't find where they were. Anyway, several times the app wouldn't display the times for the showings on Saturday, even though they were there, very unfortunate. Yeah, I've heard that they're having problems with that. But one of the things I said on open Mike yesterday was that I was challenged by a friend of mine saying, John, you keep saying coyote versus Acme will flop, which it will. Totally flop, but you keep saying you think it looks awesome and you hope it does well. I really do. And I can't wait to see it and he said, well, you should break your rule about never going to any press stuff and go see an early screening of it as a way to support the film. So that if you really like it, you can start promoting it early before it comes out. So I said on my show yesterday, I was thinking about doing that because I've had a rule for three or four years now that I do not go to any press stuff at all. I do not accept any press invitations to anything. But I have accepted an invite to go to an early event for coyote versus Acme. I'm going to go see it Tuesday at a press event, which is not something I've done or gone to in years, but I'm going to do it for coyote versus Acme because I really do think it's going to completely flop. But I also think it looks absolutely awesome and a lot of people are telling me they think it's great. So I'm going to go check it out at one time only. I'm not going to do this again, but I so don't expect that I'm going to start going to press stuff. I'm not, but I will do this one time for coyote versus Acme and will hopefully it's as good as I hear it is and hopefully it's as good as I think it looks. So we'll find out. All right. Next up, Alan S. writes, oh my God, if they do go through with all this, John, what big franchises will Warner Brothers have besides the Matrix? If you even can call that big, but I mean, it's not just about franchises. Yeah, franchises are major and significant for sure, but how many Harry Potter movies have they made in the last five years? None. None Harry Potter movies in the last five years, right? So is it that is it really that big of a deal? I mean, it's not not a big deal, but is it really that big of a big deal? I don't know. Do they look at Lord of the Rings? Do they look? I mean, look, you're going to have to kill something off, right? There's no scenario in this where Paramount gets the merger to go through without having to cut off one limb, they're going to have to cut off something and all of it is significant. You may not think that the TV networks is a big deal. That's their financial pipeline. That's the money thing. That's going to feed and help to address this amazing debt they're going to have. The production lots are huge. The independent studios are huge. Independence for Warner Brothers would be huge. I mean, there's no scenario that exists that Warner Brothers is going to get taken over by Paramount, and this is going to go through for them without having to sacrifice something big. There's no piece of this puzzle that isn't going to hurt, right? But it's what it's going to take to get it under that threshold to make it legal. So we'll see what that's going to be. All right. Next up, we got Sinvand out of her rights. But Coyote versus Acme was a delightful watch, very funny and heartwarming with a couple of low moments in the middle. Overall, definitely worth a watch. Hope word gets out and it performs well. Like, yeah, ever since it has to be over a year ago, I remember Lord and Miller went to go see it and they came out raving about it. And again, all the talk I've heard coming out of Comic Con was that it was amazing and you know, Warner Brothers never said the movie wasn't amazing. They just shelved it because they thought it was going to flop and it is going to flop. But every word I hear is that it's great. I think the last trailer they put out was fantastic. I'm very excited about it. And here's Hope and I like it as much as most other people do. All right. Next up, we've got Romell who writes, "Hey, John, hope you day is going well. It is with the Descendant Daniel Cretten connection over under 30% Wonder Man and Trevor Slattery appear in Shang Chi too." Well, Trevor Slattery, a high probability because he was in the first Shang Chi, right? So there's no reason not to have him. Wonder Man, I doubt it because that just makes that film way more, way more expensive, makes it way more expensive. And then it's not a Shang Chi movie anymore, right? So I think Trevor, absolutely because he was in Shang Chi one. I don't think we'll see Wonder Man in in Shang Chi too though. I mean, I could be wrong. I don't know that for a fact, but my guess is probably won't seem in there. All right. Eric writes. "I know that they're going to recast Wolverine for future X-Men films, but man, it's going to be weird at first not seeing Hugh as Wolverine." Yeah. No, it will. But you know what? People underestimate how quickly we as an audience adapt. I remember when Richard Harris passed away, Dumbledore. And I remember there was a lot of talk and chat about the fact that this is going to throw the audience off so bad, like this audience who had gotten so used to Richard Harris's Dumbledore and it's going to be so distracting and it's going to be such. But you know what happened? I think it was Gambon. Yeah. Gambon who took over the role. Yeah. At first, for the first second or two was, oh, this is different. And then we didn't even think about it again. This was now Dumbledore. So Ian Theory, is it going to be a radical, a radical kind of shock of the system to have anybody other than Hugh Jackman playing Wolverine? Sure. But our brains will quickly adjust. This is a new Wolverine. This is a different scenario. And this is all our Wolverine now. And it will be fine. Somebody's saying, ladies, saying, saying, it's not the same. Oh, no, it's the same. You can say it's not the same all you want, but it is the same. I mean, the one difference is, whereas we had Richard Harris's Dumbledore for a certain number of years, we've had Hugh Jackman for like 20 years, longer period of time, but the principle is still the same. I mean, it really is still the same. So everybody will adjust. Now, whether or not the new Wolverine is good or not, well, that's a totally different subject, right? Well, then that is what it is, but just somebody changing the role will find a jarring for a second and it'll be weird for a moment. And then we will adjust and move on with the movie. And I think people really underestimate the audience's ability to do that. I think it's been proven time and time again, you can do that. And I think it'll be fine if they write a good Wolverine next. All right, Esma Collier writes, finally saw Spider-Man. I love the tone down Frank, but didn't at the same time. He didn't have to drop F-bombs to still be badass. Again, I, that was one of my biggest, like, look, I knew Spider-Man was going to be great because it's Spider-Man and it's Dustin Daniel Cretten who did Shang Chi and did Wonder Man. And so I knew it was going to be good, but one of the big, I didn't know how good. But one of the big questions I had going into is, how on earth are you going to do Frank Castle? You're going to do Punisher in a PG-13 movie. Much like a lot of people have questions, Marks, how do you do Deadpool in a PG-13 movie? And sorry, I'm distracted by something dumb somebody said in the live chat. And here's the, here's the thing about that. They found a way to still make him Frank without going to the extreme edges of Frank, right? And they found a way to make him fit. They even did a joke about it with, it's in one of the trailers, so it's not a spoiler, where, you know, he was about to drop an F-bombs Spider-Man webbed his mouth up. So that was kind of an interesting way to do it. By the way, here's something dumb of somebody who doesn't under, isn't, is missing the lead here. Disagreed, people are still fractured on Caval and Reeve as better Superman compared to Corn Sweat. It's not, but that's about the projects and the writing, right? It's about the projects and the writing. And you can still think one person was better than the other and all that kind of stuff. But when it comes to just somebody taking over a role and moving on because you're talking about three completely different franchises, like you're missing the boat on this legacy. We're talking about the Caval Superman was a completely different franchise. The Reeve Superman was a completely different franchise. You're, we're not talking about a scenario where it's a totally new franchise and whether you like one franchise more than the other. We're talking about somebody taking over a role within the same franchise and now just taking over. David Corn Sweat did not take over Henry Caval's role and become Amy Adams's new boyfriend. They're divided over and for stupid reasons, but people are divided over the complete different franchises. Dumbledore being switched out was within the same franchise. The new Wolverine is going to be in the MCU. And of course, some people are always going to prefer one actor over another. That's not a problem. The issue is, are we going to be, is it going to be completely distracting to everybody? Oh my gosh. This is a huge act, man. My mind can't wrap around this. That won't be a problem. So yes. Anyway. All right. Next up, we go on to Ramell, who writes, "Do you think an MCU blade documentary would ever be made about its misfortunes? No, because Marvel will never okay it. Would, would love a death of blade, what happened type of doc, RIP to snap. Yeah. That would be great to see at some point. That would be absolutely amazing to see at some point, but you'd have to get people who own rights to things to give permission for that to happen. And they will never give permission to that to happen ever." Will they give the permission for that to happen? So I, I don't see it happen, but man, I would be first in line to go see that, dude. I would be absolutely first in line to go see that. All right. Next up, Jesus writes, "What do you think of the rumor that according to Andy Muscietti, the DCU Batman is on hold because they are waiting for the merger to be solved?" It's, I saw that rumor, I don't know that I buy it partially because Warner Brothers is still moving ahead on a lot of projects. DC is still moving ahead on projects. So I don't think I buy it. The only thing to me that would give it any semblance of authenticity is James Gunn, who you know what I believe about the James Gun thing. I believe James Gunn has no desire to work for the Ellison's. So if Paramount does take over the deal, does take over Warner Brothers, I believe James Gunn is going to exercise his contractual right in 2027, somewhere in the middle of 2027, he will exercise his contractual right to get out and leave. So James Gunn, I guess, we're talking theoretical here, guys. I guess theoretically speaking, James Gunn may feel, "Well, you know, Batman is such an important piece to DC. I might be splitened. So instead of me making the decisions about what's going to happen with Batman, if I split I should leave those decisions to whoever comes in after me, maybe." But again, Warner Brothers continues to move ahead with business as usual. DC is continuing to develop and make projects, so I don't think I buy it. But there are realms that it could be real if James Gunn just may not want to make those decisions that somebody else will have to live with. So maybe that's the case. I don't know. All theoretical though, Hazus, all right. Good question though. Sam Fisher writes, Paramount considers selling off DC, oh God, get ready for the endless talking heads, instantly discussing Disney should buy DC and that to never end. Here's the thing though, I don't think Disney would ever be allowed to buy DC because it would absolutely create a comic monopoly, right? So I think even if Disney and I'm sure Disney would love to own DC, I don't think it would ever be allowed. I don't think any legal department anywhere would ever allow that to happen. That would be an app. So if in some world, Paramount and all these options they're considering, remember, I'm saying like these, these options here, these are all on the table for Paramount, like that's not to say any of them are likely or that any of them have like a serious chance of happening. But every single one of these things are things that Paramount is considering, including one of the things on the table is DC, do I really see that happening? I don't personally, but if they ever did, if they did decide to offer up DC as one of the compromises, there's a lot of people who could potentially buy it and a none of them are called Disney, because again, that would 100% create an absolute monopoly. And yeah, there's no way I don't think any justice department would ever let that happen. All right, let's get back over to it here. Thanks, Sam. Next up, Sin Vendetta writes, "I still find it incredible that obsession is now crossed 500 million dollars at the worldwide box office. It was only supposed to be in theaters for just two weeks and now it's had a full 90 day run. It's an excellent movie. It's just an excellent, excellent movie that struck several chords, several chords. And it's a rewatchable movie. Now I still don't think the ending is great. I still don't think the ending is great. But that was just two minutes of the movie. It is a fabulous movie. And I think it deserves all the success that it's had and it's going to launch a couple of big careers, including in Indian Everettie and the guy, I forget the name, the guy who played Bear, but he's going to go on to, he was amazing in that movie too. He gets overlooked, but it's just incredible the success this movie's had, man. All right. Next up, where are we at here? We're at the Refugee, let's love that name. Since it a $20 super chat, thank you, Refugee, who writes, "As a follow up of yesterday's about iMacs.com. contract it seems like the odyssey is going to be forced out of iMacs and iMacs 70 millimeter theaters which is a shame i wish we could see its full potential if gone unlimited i i think it's nearing the end of its run anyway like let's let's not create the mistaken impression that it's just all i had such a limited it had a very robust iMacs run and let's also not look past the fact as i as i bring this up here let's not look past the fact that it slowed down right it has slowed down now it's still made 19 million this weekend which is great but it is slowing down it is coming to the end it's end of life cycle as a matter of fact insidious past it so it odyssey actually got pushed out of the number three spot it's or got pushed down to the number three spot so yeah would it make even more if it was able to have a little bit of a longer runway yes but it's made the majority of its money so again it would have been interesting see how far it could have gone but iMacs needs to make money there are other movies to put on iMacs that will at some point start selling more tickets so they have to do it which is i mean hey contract is why they were able to keep it as long as they did contract is why they're going to have to eventually move out all right uh fergus writes hottake but people should stop calling pieces of media slop slowly because they don't like them that's ridiculous uh anyway uh regardless of your intentions calling something slop automatically insults anyone who likes it oh fuck that that's not true at all that's that's ridiculous that's okay i as as a film lover loving brethren i i gonna have to i'm gonna have to take you to cast on that one that's ridiculous if you don't like something you're allowed to say i think that was garbage like hopefully like you're saying it for the right reasons say there's a gay person it but no if you if you watch a movie you think it's badly made and badly put together you say that is garbage that's slop that's terrible of course and saying that is not insulting to anybody look if you feel this is one of the big problems with the film community right now and has been for for a number of years if you get personally insulted if you are personally insulted because of what somebody else doesn't like a movie you like then that's a problem with you that is a problem with you and that has been a problem in film community for a long time like because when you wrap your identity up in a movie that an insult against a movie i like is an insult against me person that's an attack on me personally then dude get outside and touch grass that that's that's that's not just wrong thinking that's dangerous thinking that's dangerous thinking now of course there are insults you can level against a movie that would clearly also be insults against other people at the same time and i'm not gonna justify by going into what those are absolutely but if somebody watches a movie in as much that they have a right to say i think it was great i think it was awesome i think it was epic they have the right to say i think it was slop i think it was garbage i think it was terrible and if you get personally insulted by that there is something wrong with you uh and and you need to get past that film is art and art is subjective and it's gonna hit us all in different ways and we have to be able to be allowed to say what we thought about a certain piece of art and you that i like look if you have a movie you love and i say it's slop i am not thinking about you one bit when i call that movie slop you are the furthest thing from my mind if i think a particular movie is garbage if you're a fan of craving the hunter god bless you that's awesome i'm glad you like it but i think it was a crime against humanity and i did not give you one bit of thought when considering my opinion about that movie so why on earth when you take that as any kind of a personal offense on yourself anyway so no i i i have to disagree with you on that uh furthest i absolutely have to disagree with you on that all right next up uh casey crow writes any plans to work on more films or documentaries yes um i i'm not willing to i'm not in a place to talk about any of them right now uh by the way it's it's it's it's it's piddly squat nothing stuff it's nothing that's like i'm working with does you know i'd say yeah there are a few projects i'm looking at at working on nothing that would shake anybody's world but that are very good to me very special to me but i'll i'll talk about those whenever we get a whenever it they've come to a point where it's ready to be talked about anyway thank you for asking though casey uh monkey tongue writes do you think dune three will make a billion uh the first two didn't just curious on your take on i've been i've talked about this a million times the dune franchise is not a billion dollar franchise i said that before the first one came out it's higher thinking sci-fi which is absolutely not for everybody it's higher level sci-fi which is absolutely not for everybody the dune franchise is not a four quadrant franchise the fact that dune two made over i believe over seven hundred million dollars is remarkable actually now i got to look that up how much did dune two make uh dune two yeah dune part two made seven hundred and fourteen million dollars which i think is remarkable for a franchise like that but it is not particularly kids can't watch it and get anything out of it i don't believe there's a big segment of adults at this type of sci-fi is not for um it's just it's just not a film franchise for everybody and i've been saying that since before the first movie came out so the fact that the second one made so much more money and made seven hundred million generally speaking i still stand that the dune franchise is not a billion dollar franchise it's the greatest franchise but it's it's not a billion dollar franchise looking at ticket sales seeing how much excitement the dune's day phenomenon is creating i'll say there's a shot dune three could make a billion an unlikely shot but a shot nonetheless when you look at all the momentum right now but that's the thing that the measurement for dune three is is not the billion dollar mark that that's not the measurement for a film like this because unlike spider man brand new day which is a total four quarter movie dune is not that and it's never going to be and it's not meant to be so yeah i i don't know it may have a shot because of all the positive momentum but i don't think that's its target and i don't think that's what it needs to make all right next up uh we've got Thomas who writes with films like secret wars man of tomorrow golem shrek five frozen three and others how big is the chance starfighter won't crap the top 10 box office in 2027 well i honestly i would say it doesn't matter it really doesn't matter look if starfighter shits the bed and makes two hundred and fifteen million dollars all right but a whole bunch of other movies do two and it just so happens that two hundred and fifteen million dollars made at the number nine film of the year do you think that's gonna make Lucas film feel any better does that make disney feel any better it's like okay there are two billion dollar films and then one the made eight hundred then one that made five hundred and then one that made four hundred and then a couple of made two hundred and one what made one ninety five yay starfighter made the top 10 whoo it does that won't help that will not make anybody at disney or lucas film feel any better about it and it doesn't reduce one dollar that they lost it's completely irrelevant nobody at lucas film or disney cares if starfighter gets into the top 10 they care about how much money it makes well it's two things they care how much money it makes and they care that it's really good so people will be interested in future star wars movies because mandalorian and grogu certainly hurt and star fighters gonna have to fight against the negative feelings coming out of mandalorian and grogu anyway so it's the question isn't about whether whether it because look if star if starfighter can make eight hundred million dollars it won't matter to disney if ten other movies made over that it won't matter to them all they'll just be popping bottles that starfighter made eight hundred million dollars so I don't know I don't know if they get into the top 10 but what I would say is ultimately at the end of the day it won't matter it really doesn't matter to lucas film or to to disney what they care about is does it start to win the audience back get some positive feelings towards star wars again which they've been losing a lot of and or you know not being you know and or being the exception of course which is the greatest thing star wars has ever made since the original trilogy but they won't really care. All that matters to him is how much money doesn't make. And whether that puts it in the top 10, Thomas or not, I don't really think they're going to lose any sleep over one way or the other. All right. Next up, Cameron Cox writes, "Demon Slayer made 800 million at the worldwide box office last year. One piece will be the first anime to hit a billion love the show. I doubt it, but I mean, hey, for the people who are fans of it, I hope it does. I mean, that would be great if it did. I don't think it will, but it'll be really, really cool if it did. By the way, that Demon Slayer success is quite a story. I mean, I don't give a crap about it, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's an amazing thing what it accomplished and what it accomplished was huge, but I don't give a crap about it either way. All right. The oncoming storm writes, "One of two, I'm really struggling to see how this is a good move for Paramount, still with all the bad PR from how they've conducted themselves, and then all the debt they will take on. I'm also struggling to see how it's a good deal for them. And you're going to sell two of your biggest franchises. So would they have to start paying a license fee to keep making the Harry Potter show? Because if so, that won't be cheap." I mean, look, we're dealing with theoreticals. We're dealing with a sea of theoreticals on a planet of theoreticals, right? You're now you're dealing in theoreticals on top of theoreticals. And at this point, instead of going theoreticals based on other theoreticals, based on other theoreticals, let's just deal with the top line servicing here. There is a number of potential compromises on the table. All of them for Paramount would hurt, sure, but that's what compromises are. And if they find a combination of one, they're going to have to ask, okay, this would suck if we have to give this up. But if it gets the deal done, that takes priority over how much it will suck. Now, I don't really think it'll end up being the selling off DC option or selling off Potter option, but those are pieces on the table. And if the Paramount people believe, hey, keeping the studios is a higher priority, keeping the physical lots is a higher priority, keeping our cable networks because that's what's giving us revenue right now is a higher priority. Fine, it would suck to lose DC or Lord of the Rings or Potter or whatever else. Sure, but if that gets the deal done, let's do the deal. Again, I think it'll be something else. But now what happens then if that theoretical happens, what could theoretically happen then after that, we could get into an entire swamp if we go down that sinkhole. So let's not do that right now and just deal with the top level theoreticals, which are which compromises will Paramount be willing to make and we'll find out on coming. I mean, you're asking the right questions, but again, we're just in a place where it's kind of pointless to try to deal with theoreticals that are built on other theoreticals right now. Let's let's go one step at a time and see where we end up, but your your thinking's in the right place. Alright, X-Men's super fan rights. Hello, when you said to me, the Xiaomi would join Merrill and Daniel as one of the greats, I must say I agree, but someone also mentioned Emma Stone. What do you think about her joining them up there? Well, I mean, look, let me be clear about something. What I've always said about Timothy Shalamay has been that out of all the actors in the world right now, I only see one who hat right now, who has the potential to be the next Daniel Day Lewis, not that he will be the next Daniel Day Lewis, who is the best there is best there was best there ever will be Daniel Day Lewis is the Bret Hart of acting. And if you know that reference, you know that reference. But I have certainly not seen anything that has changed my mind about that. Timothy Shalamay's performance is just keep getting better and better and better and better. He is maybe the best actor in the world right now, maybe, but I also know this. I don't think there's any actor on the planet right now like if you want to take some really, really phenomenal actors like like Leonardo DiCaprio, maybe one or two others. Timothy Shalamay, I don't even believe is that 70% yet of how good he is. Like he just keeps getting better and better and better. And I still think he's got a ton of headroom. I think we've seen Leonardo DiCaprio peak and his peak is way up here. But I think we've seen him peak. And he'll continue to give great amazing performances. But Shalamay, I don't think he's peaked yet. I still think he's got even more improving that he's going to be like he just keeps getting better and better and better every time we see him. Now Emma Stone. Emma Stone's interesting. Let me, let me pull this up because I just want to make sure I get the numbers right here on it. Emma Stone is already a multi time Academy Award winner, right? And she's been nominated numerous times. Let me see if I can win it here. If I can find it here. All right. So for in the Academy, just for the Academy Awards, she has won already. Let's see here. She was nominated once twice, three times. Wait, say maybe even more four times five times. She's been nominated for five Oscars already. Emma Stone has been nominated for five Oscars already. And she's one two of them. She's one best actress twice at the Oscars. That puts her in very, very rare company. And those, neither those are flukes because she got nominated three other times on top of that. And she's still like super young. How old is she right now? Let me see if I can bring this up. She was born in 1988. So she's not even 40 yet. Dear God, she's been nominated for five Oscars. One two and she's not even 40 yet. I don't think she still has the exceeding upside that Timothy Shalamet has. But yeah, she's one of them. I mean, you can't, I'm sorry, you can't deny it. She's one of them. She's at the top right up there too. Anyway, is what it is. But yeah, Timothy Shalamet is, he's the guy. He's the guy. And you know, it's so funny, but watching that that one on one that Robert Downey Jr. and Timothy Shalamet did and Robert Downey Jr. basically saying it too, like Robert Downey Jr. is like, I think one of the great actors of his generation saying to Timothy out, you're it like you're the one. You're the next one. And I just think that's the thing. But can you, can he continue to keep getting better and better and better like I think you will? We'll find out. I mean, we don't know. He's not at Daniel Day, who is level yet. But I think if anybody has a potential to get there, I think it's him. But Emma Stone, I mean, you can't, dear God, like her resume already, four, even hitting 40 is so crazy. Good. All right, on coming. Oh, we already did that one. Next up, Elliott Morris writes, Hey, John, in your opinion, what do you, or in your opinion, do you think there's more of a market for producing skills over direct or producing skills over directing skills in terms of career progression to totally different things? They're two totally different things. And when you say that the problem with producing is you go to any movie, you could see up to like 15 different people listed as a producer, whether it's a producer, senior producer, executive producer, associate producer, whatever. There's like Steven Spielberg has made a career out of making one phone call and then them adding his name as a producer on a movie when he doesn't do anything on a movie. Like it just means so many different things and it's two wildly totally different things. Right? A director, you get hired to do the job. If you're a the producer or something, you're the one doing the hiring. I mean, so it's not something that you can really compare. I mean, we could get into it if I wanted to dedicate 10 more minutes here to it, but I don't have the time for that. All I'm going to say is that those are radically different things, not just in job function, but in like who reports to who are you the bar, like, and then what does even producer mean? Director, we all know what director means. Director means the same thing every time, but not for a producer. So it's really a it's a it's a good question. It's just one we don't have time to go into for 25 minutes here. All right. Mitch writes, just curious. If you've ever saw back rooms, yes, not impressed. I'll be honest, not impressed. And I hate saying that because I love to tell edgy of four. I love to tell edgy of four. He is the man. I love that guy. I mean, I remember I took notice of him when he played the operative in serenity as one of the greatest, I think sci fi villains, villains ever. And I've just totally paid attention to him ever since he's one of my favorite actors. I'm going to be honest with you. I I loved obsession. I did not think back rooms was my I don't get the appeal of back rooms. I get the appeal of making the movie and the appeal of like the mythology and the the lore of it and that the YouTube shorts. Absolutely. And I thought the movie looked really good. But then I watch it. I'm like, I don't get why anybody likes this. And it absolutely has its fans. So I'm just being straight here. I I by the time I got into it, I was like, got to the end of back rooms, I'm like, what was the point of the whole movie? Like what? Yeah. I mean, there are elements of it. I thought we're pretty good. And I don't think the movie was hot trash. Don't get me wrong. But yeah, I, I wanted to, I certainly wanted to like it more than I wanted to like obsession, but I ended up loving obsession. I, yeah, I, I, I just, I thought, honestly, I thought back rooms was a swing and a miss, but that's just me. All right. Eric writes, John, another football season is upon us and another year my cowboys make me crash out and hate everything. Last time they won the Super Bowl, I was 95 and I was born in '86. Just my luck. Yeah, I look. I'm, I'm gonna see if I can find this. I bet I can't, but just in case I can. Let me, let me, let me take a peek. Let me take a peekaboo here and, and see if I can find it. I'm going to share with you something I shared on my social media, which pissed off some of my friends. Here we go. Here we go. Let me see if I can get this on screen here. One second. All right. I love this. I, I put this on my Facebook, but said this breaking news. Dallas Cowboys practice was delayed two hours today after a player found an unknown white powdery substance on the field. Jerry Jones immediately suspended practice and called for the police. After an, an, analysts, after analysis, experts confirmed it was the goal line. Practice resumed once the officials decided the cowboys were unlikely to see it again this season. Ban, how about them cowboys? Yeah. I absolutely detest the cowboys. I, I celebrate and revel in their misery every year, which is funny because there's actually a bunch of cowboys I really do like. Like, I like Dak Prescott. I do. I like Dak Prescott. There's a lot of guys on Dallas that I really quite like, but as an organization, there is no organization that I love watching fail as much as the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know is what it is, but listen, I feel, listen, I was a Patriot fan for 20 years, man. 30 years. It went coach Parcels went to, um, when coach Parcels went to the New England Patriots, I followed him over there and became a fan of the Patriots and then came the Tom Brady years and all the Super Bulls and all that kind of stuff. And I've fallen off them because they're just a totally different team now than before. There's, there's nothing left there about the team that I used to love. And so now I'm just a fan. I don't have one team. I, I just love football. I just love watching a bunch, but I do have to admit that I love cheering against the Cowboys. How about them Cowboys? Anyway, good luck to you, though, Eric. Oh, listen, listen, say you want, they may win a bunch of games, they may lose a bunch of games. They have a fiercely entertaining offense. They have a very entertaining offense to watch. And I think they're going to be a fun team to watch. I really do. I'm just going to be cheering for them to lose. All right, Eric writes, but I'm hopeful for my Dallas stars. The Dallas stars, I feel differently about the former Minnesota North, North stars. I feel differently about them. I go all the way back since they were the Minnesota North stars, and they had Dino Cicerelli. Lot of you guys don't know that name, but he was one of my favorite hockey players at the time when he was on the Minnesota North stars. All right, Thanos writes, you know, who'd be the ultimate troll movie casting for Caval? Dacken Wolverine son. Yeah, but that's the thing about the X 23 and Dacken, all that kind of stuff. By the way, he's very, very powerful in the comics. Like irrationally powerful. Like he's way opied any any that aside. I don't think you can start a brand new X-Men era and just already be past Wolverine who is by far the most popular character in X-Men lore. Like that's not even a question. Wolverine is the most popular character in X-Men lore. You can't just start brand new X-Men and saying and say X-Men are Wolverines in the past. We're done with Wolverine. That's like doing a new DCU and saying, yeah, Superman Batman. No, they're old news. They're old news. Like I don't think you can do that. Anyway, next up X-Men superfan Emma Frost writes and half the ways having a great year. She certainly is. The Odyssey marks the third time she collaborated with Nolan. The others being interstellar and dark night rises. What do you think Anne brings as an actresses to a Nolan film? Well, it's not what she brings to a Nolan film. It's just she is one of the great actresses today. She's an Academy Award winner. She's a multi-time nominee. I think she's one of the best in the business. And you know, it's like anything else. Christopher Nolan's a lot of other directors. When he finds actors, he really likes working with. He goes back to them and works with him a lot. And that can be said of a lot of actresses too. And she just happens to be a great one. All right, sister writes. I saw the Mad King Game of Thrones play and it's superb. Seeing Roberts Rebellion, Young Ned, Regar and Leanna and events we heard about in the books. Slash show come to life was thrilling. Renewed my love of Westeros. You know, it's funny. I recently saw somebody do a full Roberts Rebellion documentary, but like with sketches that they did. And it was like a half hour long thing on YouTube. I should look it up again. And they just narratively went through the entire Roberts Rebellion. And like the role Ned Stark played in it and all that kind of stuff. And it was awesome. It was really, really awesome. If you if you guys can find it online, I highly recommend you check it out. All right. Thanos again writes, Hey, what's more likely? Kid Harrington returns to the MCU as Black Knight or Marvel makes an Avengers versus squadron supreme movie. Why would they do nobody would watch that nobody would care about that? So I think it would be more likely that kid Harrington would return because that's always a possibility. All right. Rick 302 writes, my tinerary for Doomsday, Dune part three and I max 70 millimeter on Monday and Tuesday, December 14th and 15th. Then Doomsday on Thursday and Friday and Dolby. Dune three again on Sunday and Doomsday on Sunday. Three Dooms and three Dooms days. Yeah. Oh, I don't have my phone in here. For my agenda. I will have seen Dune three twice before I watch Doomsday and that's before opening day. So I will have seen Dune three twice before opening day and then on opening day, which is Thursday the 17th. I'm seeing Dune or Avengers Doomsday at one 13th the afternoon and then I'm going to do my third screening of Dune three at 5 30 PM that night. That is my current screening of it. Doomsday is coming, baby. And I can't wait. It's going to be so much fun, Rick. All right. X men superfan writes as person that prefers Superman 25 and the DCU more than the last universe. Diane Lane as Martha Kent was. Oh, she was. She was a great Diane. Diane Lane was a great Martha Kent. I can't forget her performance. So good. Yeah. And and Kevin Koster was a great pocket. I still think one of my favorite movies, a moments in all of comic book movies. One of my favorite moments is is when young Clark says to Kevin Kosterner's pocket says, can't we just keep percent pretending you I'm your son? And he pulls him in. I'm the performance of Koster in this moment was so good. He pulls the kid and says, you are my son. I think that is bar none top five top 10 in their somewhere greatest single moments in comic book movie history. I think that moment is so good. But yes, Lane as Diane Lane as Martha Kent was absolutely perfection. She was great in it. All right. Georgie writes. John got my AMC a list accidentally canceled. Oh no. Trying to reverse it before cut off in September. AMC support is very slow to answer. Yeah. Any experience dealing with AMC support or tips. I'm a bad guy to ask because I actually know the I actually know the people who are AMC support. So when I have a problem, I literally just directly email the vice president of PR at AMC. I just email him personally and say, yo, this is going on. What's up? So I'm not the right guy to ask. I have been told though that a good way to interact with AMC customer service is direct messaging them on Twitter. I think I think what I've heard before is that they are quickest to respond to stuff sent into them via direct messages on Twitter. So you might want to try that. I get I haven't had the same issue you're having. So I can't speak to a one-to-one scenario, but I would give Twitter a chance to see if that happens. All right. Next up, Joshua sends a $20 super chat. Thank you. Joshua for supporting us on that level, man. And Joshua writes, hey, John, loving lantern so far. Me too, man, assuming lanterns gets a season two, and depending on how season one ends, would you like to see John Stewart mentor a young Kyle Rainer? No, loose adapting the four Corpsemen arc alongside Halen guy. Nah, I honestly think you're getting to, by the way, I don't know if there will be a lantern season two. They keep saying there will be, we'll talk about that later. I look, we already have for a planet that the Guardians never even wanted to have a Green Lantern, according to the show. As of right now they have three, well, depending on what's going on with how, but we have three. We got guy, we got John, we got how, and now we're going to bring like earth and now we're going to have a fourth Green Lantern. And like, so listen, I like Kyle Rainer. I like the character, but I don't think you should bring in another Green Lantern. I think one Green Lantern's enough. I think two Green Lanterns is pushing it. Three is what are you thinking, and four is just way over the top. So no, I don't, while I like the character very much, I don't think bringing in Kyle Rainer would be a good idea to be honest with you, but let's see what happens, man. All right, Santiago writes. Hey, John, what did you think of Dan Murls video on your inflation take? Both of you have great points. Love seeing healthy, rational debate online. I still think, look, I'm not going to go in a back and forth with Dan because people think I'm going to have Dan's amazing and Dan is super brilliant. Again, I will just lay down this thing. The reason inflation is, the reason trying to count a just box office for inflation is the same reason why science, whenever there are science experiments, right? What do you have to have? You have to have a controlled environment. What that means is, let's say you want to run an x, I'm going to make up something completely, completely out of my ass, okay? But what the scientific method dictates is if you say want to run a science experiment on how well or how does Mentos? How does Mentos interact with boiling water? Great. You can do that experiment. Let's say you want boiling water at like water at 90 degrees Celsius, which isn't quite boiling, and you want to do it at 100 degrees Celsius, okay? You want to do a comparison of how does Mentos interact with water that is 90 degrees versus water that is 100 degrees and you want to compare those results. Okay, fine. But if you're going to do that, the scientific method says everything has to be the same then. The room temperature has to be the same. The environmental conditions have to be exactly the same. Did you put a little bit of salt in one and not the other? Can't do that. They have to be exactly the same. Did you use the same or completely identical burner to bring the water up to temperature as you did with the other one? It's called a controlled environment. And what the scientific method says is, it makes, no, you want to try to drop a Mentos into 90 degree water and want to do 100 degree water to see the differences. Your results mean nothing. Your results mean absolutely nothing. If it wasn't in a controlled environment, where all the other aspects were completely identical. Because if they're not and you're introducing other variables, it makes your results useless. That is the exact same thing with trying to adjust for inflation. You can't just adjust for inflation because too many things were different at one year than they were in another year. A thousand things, a thousand environmental things were completely different. So trying to say, well, that just adjusted for inflation. According to the scientific method, that renders it completely pointless. Because you're adjusting dollar values from an era that didn't have streaming that is competing against versus results of an era that does have streaming that is competing against. You're trying to adjust dollar values in an era that had two year long theatrical windows versus an era that has two month long theatrical windows. You're trying to compare dollar values and inflated dollar values in an era that didn't have home TV versus one that did. You're trying to compare against one that didn't have the internet for displaying its trailers and advertisers to people versus one that did. You're comparing one dollar value during an era that had an economic crash during another movie that came out an era that didn't have an economic crash. It's pointless. It renders whatever results you come up with completely useless. So look, that's not to say there isn't some interesting things to do. That there isn't some interesting information to glean out of comparing for comparing for adjustment for inflation. But unless you're adjusting for inflation from two different eras that had the exact same environmental conditions, then it renders your findings completely meaningless. So I stand on that and I stick by that and I'm with it 100%. Dan and I will disagree in a lot and that's fine. There are very, very few guys on the inner that I respect as much as Dan Merl. The guy is brilliant. I love his analytical thinking. I love the way he dissect issues. He's one of my favorite guys on YouTube. But we're going to disagree on some things and this is this is one of those things that we disagree on and it's perfectly okay. I still hope to have Dan on the show here sometime soon to be honest with you. Anyway, Georgie writes thoughts on buddy movie looks scary cool vibes. Well, I mean, I haven't seen this one. I have a lot of thoughts, but it looks creepy as hell. It looks creepy as hell. I've been then again, I've seen other movies that look creepy as hell don't end up being that but buddy looks creepy as hell. I hope it hope it delivers. Keaton writes, who has the most compelling no killing rule Batman Superman or Spider-Man? Well, it's interesting because all of them have killed all of them have killed. So I think it's kind of I don't really care because all of them do things in the comics that would absolutely kill the person they're doing it to. The writers just say it didn't kill them. Of course, my great example of this and Batman is killed many times in the comics make no mistake. But the biggest I was to remember this my throw to this one. There's this one issue of Batman where Batman is like hunting down these two thugs, right? And he's waiting for them in this dilapidated kind of abandoned house. And the guys are up on the second floor. And Batman is hiding in the rafters. And in the comics, Batman drops his 240 pounds down on the guy knees in his chest that breaks through the floor down to a concrete floor on another level below that with Batman at 240 pounds landing knees first on the guy's ribs. In the comic, now that would kill the guy. Sorry, just straight up, that's game over. The guy has canceled his subscription to life. It's done. He's over. But in the comics, they just write Batman thinking a ruptured spleen for broken ribs. He'll be in traction for a month, but he'll live. So to me, it's just it's a cop out. They say Batman has this no killing rule, but they have him constantly doing things that would absolutely kill the people he's doing it to all the time. And he kills all the time and things. So I don't really, I think the no kill rule for a lot of the stuff is dumb because they just handle it so badly. All right, Alex, wife's rights. Hey guys, love the show. Today is my birthday. Happy birthday, Alex celebrating a bit today by seeing Spider-Man again and screen X thanks and bring on the filthy. You know what? The last time I saw Spider-Man was on a screen X. It was my first time ever going to screen X, and I had a really good time with it. I'm going to go to screen X a little bit more. I had a really a lot of fun with it. Anyway, Alex, happy birthday, my friend. I hope you have a great one. 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