Paige's emotional first interview since WWE return
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In this heartfelt conversation, a WWE superstar opens up about her journey to eight years of sobriety, contrasting her current healthy state with a past marked by drug test failures and personal turmoil. She recounts the emotional process of returning to WWE after a neck injury forced her retirement, missing iconic events like the Royal Rumble. Her comeback was sparked spontaneously at a friend’s podcast, where a chance conversation led to a call with WWE executive Nick, followed by medical tests that cleared her neck and a clean drug test. The wrestler emphasizes the importance of treating fans with respect, recalling a lesson from her father: people remember how you make them feel. She also discusses the challenges of social media, noting how one negative comment can overshadow hundreds of positive ones, and advises against engaging with trolls. The conversation touches on generational differences in language and technology, highlighting the constant evolution of communication. Ultimately, this segment celebrates resilience, personal growth, and the powerful connection between performers and their audience.
[MUSIC] >> Holy cow. >> Holy cow. >> Oh, it's good to see you. [MUSIC] >> Oh, what's your story? Don't you dare be sour. Cut for Stephanie and be over power. >> This is a WWE and fanatics original production. >> I've been working very hard on this. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Eight years sober. >> That's amazing. >> Yeah, amazing. >> That's amazing. >> Eight years. >> Well, you know, the last time I was here, I was a bit of a mess. I popped two drug tests here. I was a little bit of a loose cannon. I was younger though. >> You can share what you want to share. >> Yeah, I never knew that at that point in time. We were like, >> Yeah, well. >> We were on Twitter and stuff and I was like, >> There was a lot of, and myself included a lot of concern for you. >> Absolutely, I know. >> And just, you know, because we could just see you going down a not great path. But, you know, there's no telling somebody when they're, >> Yeah. >> When they want to do whatever they want to do. >> Yeah, exactly. >> But here you are. >> I know. >> Yes. >> I know. >> I remember the first time I came back to, it was 2017. I remember you just giving me the biggest hug. You know, and you're like, >> You actually sound glad that you're still alive. >> Yeah. >> I remember that so clearly. >> I was so glad. >> And I was like, yeah, me too. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's good to be here. >> And then having that big break in between as well, these eight years not being here. Coming back, and I was like, man, I just have to get as healthy as possible when I go back. >> Yeah. >> Congratulations. >> I'm sure I'm eating good. Yeah, thank you. >> Amen. >> Yes. And still, in the ring, I was still blown up. >> [LAUGH] >> I was like, oh my God, I'm blowing up my ass, dude. But yeah, like, you were just like, covered in-- >> Yeah, I mean it was. >> It was at another level. >> I just, well, you, all those lights at many, you forget how hot they are. >> Right. >> And make all the heat in the room and stuff like that. And so I'm like, I think you forgot that feeling. And then walking out, obviously, we were just talking about how it was shaking. >> Yeah. >> I was just so excited. And then once I got in the ring, I was just like, oh my God, I have to try and keep up with these girls. >> No, no, no. >> But you did. >> Yeah, you did. >> You did. >> But that short stint was in the ring. >> How much training did you do? >> I did do a lot of training. >> Yeah. >> The week leading up, though, I only went to the gym once, and I regret that so much. I had all these other signings to do. There's no excuse. [LAUGHTER] >> I went to last weekend, we went to the gym at like one in the morning just to make sure that we were going to the gym. >> Right, right. >> No, but this week, I don't have any excuses. >> Well, there's something to be said for giving your body a little rest right before. >> Sure. >> Yeah, definitely. And I was trying to eat as good as I possibly could. But I did eat pizza the day before many of you and I was like, oh no. >> Oh, you know what I could tell. >> You could tell. >> She said that yesterday, actually. >> Yeah. >> You know what? >> She's bloated. >> Yes. >> I was wearing shapewear and the ring. >> I was wearing shapewear. >> You're so tiny. >> I know. Now I feel like I do need to put on a little bit of weight. I saw a demon like, oh. And he was just like, you're in great shape. He was like, I feel like you can put a little bit of meat on your bones. >> Good. >> And I was like, good. >> Yeah, you're right. You're right. I went a little bit too serious with the way I was eating and the way I was moving. >> We just need to add some more protein. >> Yes, exactly. Yeah, I need to just do more. >> I mean, carbs and fat are good, too. >> Oh, I love it. >> I made it. >> I was like, now I saw myself and I was like, oh, my legs are a little skinnier than the usually are and I was like, no, I don't like that. >> But you look fantastic. >> So you're great and it'll be awesome in any phase of you is amazing. >> I'm a child. >> I'm a child. >> That's a great thing. >> You'll be told to it. >> Oh, it is. Oh, I love that. >> Yeah. >> You'll get you some carbs. Yeah, no problem. >> I remember the first time I -- this is another thing you said. I always keep things in my mind when it comes to you. She's very special to me. I always been a total sweet -- >> I feelings mutual. >> I adore you. And I remember sitting in the makeup chair and you were just like, how is your stomach still flat even when you're sitting in a makeup chair? I know I was just like, oh, it made me feel so good, you know? And so like 14 years later, I was like, hey, if I'm going back, I want Stephanie to see you sit down and have a flat stomach. >> Yeah, yeah. >> You know, maybe fill a million bucks. It's like, you should feel a lot more. >> You're very wise. And the things you say kind of like hit a lot of people. I think you -- we were talking about you before you came in here. You know, just -- >> About me being late. >> No, no, no. It's okay to be late. It's not okay. >> It's not okay. >> You were a team. >> You were a team. >> But I was working. >> You were still. >> You made a point to call her because she was like -- >> She felt so bad. >> I feel so nice. >> Yeah, you called me being like, I'm so sorry. >> Yeah. >> I felt like I was. >> You know, like that's unprofessional. >> Yeah. >> I appreciate it. >> For me, not for you on the host. >> I was in the middle of WrestleMania, you guys. And she's got a billion things to do. And she's 10 minutes late. And she's like, I am so sorry. I'm like, hey, you got a lot on your plate right now. >> Wow. >> You know, I do. >> Oh, dear. >> Yeah. >> This week's been a busy one. >> Yeah, tell us about it. >> Yeah. >> And tell us how you were feeling and how did it all come to be. >> You know, let me tell you the story of how it came to be. >> Okay. >> Because I am false, jelly and bunny. >> Really? >> Yeah. So I'm actually -- one of my best friends is bunny. I love that woman so much. Like, we are very, very close, right? >> Wow. >> And so, how's her book tour doing? >> Oh, she's crushing. >> Yeah. >> She's like six weeks in a row. She was like the New York Times bestseller. >> And she's amazing. >> And she's so amazing. >> And I was so proud of her. But she was doing her book tour and she was doing her live podcast. And she was in LA. So she texted me and like, can you come on? I was like, absolutely. >> Awesome. >> And so I get there. And then, you know, her manager comes and gets me. And she was like, hey, you got a friend in there. And I was like, who? And I go down there and it's Brad Slayer. >> Oh, great. >> That's true. >> Oh, great. >> Yeah. >> Right? And I've known him for over 10 years because I've fought with my family and stuff. You know, great guy. Always checks in on me every six months. >> That's great. >> Okay. >> I'll get a text from him. Yeah. And so he was in there and he was like, it's so great to see you. He gives me a big hug. And then, Jolly was just like, I'm going to end up cussing a little bit. But he was like, what the fuck? You know, when are you going to bring it back? Give her a call to your guy and stuff. And Brad looks to me. He's like, do you want to come back? And I was just like, yeah. >> Really? >> Yeah, I love it. And he was like, right, let me make a call. So he calls Nick. And within 30 minutes, you know, Nick had said, sure, let's get in with her. Awesome. >> A week later, he fights L.A. to the WWE offices out there. I went to Met him for about 10 minutes. You know, great guy. >> Right. >> Love him. >> Right. He is a really, really great guy. >> Yeah. Big fan of him. >> Super smart, right. >> Super smart. >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. And you know. >> We talk about psychology. >> Yeah. >> You know, and a people brain. >> Yes. >> He's got both. >> I thought I'd be intimidated by him. >> But going in there, he's-- >> He's easy going. >> He's easy going. >> Yeah. >> And so he's like, two things. >> Well, it's-- >> And certainly. >> Yeah, sure. >> He goes, two things. Your neck has to be okay. And we have to do a drug test, right? Because I was like, fair enough. I was like, okay, I can control the drug test. I'm clean as a whistle. You know? >> Yeah. >> And so I was like, I don't know how my neck's been. It's been a few years since I got a check. But last time I got a check, it was perfect. So I'm not really concerned about it. And so, you know, I fly to-- the next week I fly to Birmingham. Nikki was there getting her ankle. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Same time. >> Wow, that's weird. >> That's super weird. >> Yeah, that's definitely. >> Yeah, that's like perfect time. >> Yeah. >> And so I was at the doctor there from like 5.45 AM until like three or four in the afternoon, doing all these tests because, I mean, you guys have to be thorough, right? >> Yeah. >> Make sure my neck is perfect. And at one point I thought I was going to-- something was wrong because all the doctors around the screen just being like, you know, like great. >> Yeah, calling up a doctor and doing things and stuff. >> Oh, my God, those things are happening. I'm going to go back, you know. And then I'm exhausted just sitting there, you know, waiting for the answer. And then he comes in and he was like, you ready to go home, kid? And I was like, I bald my eyes out. We actually have clips of it. My friend was recording it. I cried my eyes out. It was-- it was a couple of things. The fact that my neck was good and I get-- last time I was in WWE, my neck wasn't. And I had to retire and I had to miss out on all these massive things like the raw rumble, elimination chamber, like all these things I didn't get to be a part of. Even though I was part of the group that helped kind of-- >> Right, yeah, yeah, right. >> For sure. >> Yeah, and then they made a whole movie about it. >> They're holding a whole show. >> I keep forgetting about that thing, you know. And it's just the fact that I'm going to be okay. And so I was like, wow, my neck is good. I'm happy, I'm healthy, like-- >> Right. >> Everything's going right. And then-- so I was bull on my eyes out, hugging the doctors. You know, actually, I sent Hunter a voice note, and he was like, oh, I'm glad, you know. I'm stupid, and can't get rid of me, you know. And then I get another text, you know, from Stacey and she was like, all right, let's do the blood test. So I do the blood, peed a little bit too, you know. And then got all that out the way. And then for some reason, I had in my head that, if I ate something, like a poppy seed, it was like-- >> Right, right. >> Or I started getting better at eating medicine or something. >> Yeah, I don't even take an ibuprofen. >> Oh, wow. >> I'm so worried about any kind of like medicinal stuff, I'm so cool stuff. Which is crazy for me considering 10 years ago, I didn't get at all, you know. But I really worry about that kind of stuff. So I was like, maybe I drank something that was weird. You know, I was just so worried. Anyway, I was fine. They were like, you're good, calm down kind of thing. And so, yeah, I was completely cleared. It kind of went into negotiations. The mania that was on Monday, we were getting all that done. And then this weekend was obviously mania. So it was a bit of like a-- >> Oh, wow, that was fast. >> Yeah. >> The number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, return.
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Because at the Royal Rumble, people five was coming back then. Yeah, we're going crazy. I know that I did actually hear that. Yeah, we'll go in crazy if I was giving number 30, and I was just like, oh man, well, the interest is still there. Yeah, which is a great feeling, right? Is it crazy? You just never know. You never know. Yeah, and it's like, my feel's pretty awful when they don't watch it. Yeah, and they don't care, and you're just like, oh man, and I went through that stage where people saw. Because that's what you thought? It was in my head. Yeah, it was in my head. Because I know people care about you. They do. Do you know why? What? Because you're very special. Thank you. Oh, you are. This is why people cry this part. This is exactly what I'm going to do. And everybody feels it, and even your energy having you sit there and be back and talk, I'm like, so excited for people to hear you and see you and see how great you look and feel. And you know, just hear about your journey. Thank you. You took come through everything you've come through. And to still be you. Like this super cool, like 100%, 100%, you know, I don't think it's possible for you to be anything, but you. Oh, my God, I would kick my ass. That's what I'm just saying. I tell you what, we were doing a UK tour with WWE. And I was just back then we had like live events. We were like, we're on a grind, right? We had to be here for like one day. We were just on a grind, which, grateful for it, right? But I was really tired. I was very tired. And we landed in the UK and there was a ton of fans outside. And like, I wasn't rude to him, but I was like, I'm going to bed. I'll be that back down later. And my dad didn't like the tone of the way I set that rule. So he's like, sorry for cussing again, but it is my dad. He was like, get your fucking ass over there. And you saw him on his old back. He was like, hey, pay your bills. I do this. I'm like, okay, in front of all the fans, I'm like, I'm sorry, dad, some looks like. So I was like, okay, I should never do that. But I also remember, he taught me people remember the way they make you feel. That's right. So they may not remember the things that you said, the things that you do, but they remember that feeling that you get. They sure do. 100%. So that moment for them, they'll remember for the rest of their life. But I hadn't experienced when I was a kid, this bitch. Oh, I never tell you. I'm a bun in from the spice girls. No, right. I'm giving a spade. Oh, what happened to that? So let me pay you a picture for you. Only 90s, right? I was a kid, only 90s. And my mum and dad were on the same show as her. This morning show in the UK. And she signed an autograph for everyone's kid, the staff's kid and stuff like that. My mum died, they're rough couple. I get it. But they go up and they're like, can you sign this for my door? And she was like, no. And it broke my heart. Why'd she do that? I don't know. She signed for everybody else. When I signed for them. Have you ever spoken to her? So yeah, I did. OK. I was just like, oh, you didn't see her. No, no, no, I tweeted. I was like, if you want to make up for not signing an autograph for me, like, you know, 30 years ago, I'd appreciate if you came to the Wimbley show. And she responded, and she was like, I am so sorry. That's not how I am and all that kind of stuff. I was like, wow. I'm trying to give you a hard time. But I was like, you did in a child right? Yeah. It's pretty sweet. But never do that. It's a boy's place. Never. Never. She would never do that. I love her. But yeah, it really did. And that's what she's going to do. I guess she's human too, right? Everyone's kind of at it. Everyone has a bad moment. Yeah. That's why I don't try and judge if someone's not being their self for a second. I'm just like, hey, that's just having a moment. No pause, you know? And I think sometimes it's like, you just don't know-- if you don't know someone, and they do that, you don't know they're just having a bad day, right? Exactly. Assume that's the way they are the whole time. Exactly. But I don't know why it's easy for human nature to assume the worst in others. Oh, you know? I like, what is that? I don't know. You always believe the bad stuff over the good stuff. And it's always-- I always say it's always easier to be a heal over a baby face because it's-- Agreed. It's easier for people to hate you. It's so much easier. And I never understand that with human nature, because I would never be the kind of person that would comment on someone's post and be like, you the ugly, right? You know, I'm like, what goes to you? I had when you do something that I just-- I don't understand why it's human to believe the negative stuff. Yeah, I know. It's hard. I've stopped reading my ex-feed. You should. You should. I mean, I'll still look at it for news and stuff like that, even though I don't love the super algorithm of everything. Yeah. And I mean, in general, across all social. And one hand, it's fun. But I used to miss getting a bunch of different types of thinking. You know, like, I like to see different perspectives, right? Because I feel like that's the best way for me to learn. So I don't like only being fed one perspective. It drives me crazy. So I have to go search it. Yeah. But-- I hate that. I understand completely with Twitter, especially. It's like, you ghost and post. Kind of thing. A post and ghost. It's just-- That's right. That way. It's with the Cavendor twins. Yeah. When we asked, because they're influencers on social. And that was their advice. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like-- Again, people could be so negative and like-- Right now. And me. And me. So. That was one thing I was shooting for Unreal. I was shooting for Unreal. And I said, the one thing that I'm most stressed about is how mean fans can be on social media. And I was like, I don't want them to detain me in any way, because they do. Yeah. They can attack you. But right now, I've been really, really positive. And I have been kind of doom scrolling a little bit. I know. I know. I was like, oh, I can't help it. Because everyone's in the reaction. I love to put that's the thing we all love, the feedback. Right? Everyone loves the feedback. But then you can't help how your soul gets crushed. When you start reading some of the means of the one negative. Yeah. 100 positive. That one negative. You're like, wow, I suck. I'm awful. And the worst. Yes, exactly. And meanwhile, what my husband always says-- And I think I've said on this podcast is he goes, would you ask that person for advice about anything? Like, no. No. So why do I care what they think? Exactly. And they're just trying to stir trouble anyway. Exactly. They want to react. So we only-- Yeah. They're what's it called rage beating? Rage beating. Yeah. Rage beating. They get me some. I'm learning. Yeah. I have three kids, three girls. Yeah. I'm learning too. I have the language or whatever the other-- I know there's a whole lot of things. It does constantly. Yeah. My knees are spilling. And spelling and actuality of words is not a thing. Oh, yeah. I have no idea. They make up words. Yeah. And we think it's OK. The sixth, seventh, I'm like, I get-- it drives me nuts. I don't know what this is. Oh, that's just being out of age. OK. OK, best call for them. Not call for me. It's very cool for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just like, what-- They get it. It drives me nuts. What Nick Connoy says is when you start-- you know you're starting to get older when music and technology-- Oh, yeah. You know, when you just-- You can't-- I don't like it. You get to what you love. What are these young kids listen to? Just noise. Yeah. Back in my day, we used to have real music. Yeah. That's right. Jackie and I learned this morning that instead of saying, what is this shit? You say, what is T.S.? What is T.S.? T.S. So you don't say this shit. Which is like, OK, you don't swear, but you have to say T.S. now. Is what is this shit a commonly said phrase? Or like, I'm sick of T.S. I'm over T.S. Third, I mean, that just gets lazy. Just be-- Yeah, that's what you just think it is. I know, just lazy. Yeah, well, there was this one time I was at this music festival. And this girl was like, can I take a point five with you? And I'm like, yes, it's a particular type of picture. Yeah. And it's like, you mean just a photo? Yeah. What is the point five do I forget? It like zooms out. Oh, and I go, yeah, I know this isn't flaring though. Yeah, actually, no, you can't. You're a good white ankle length. Not me, from the North Beach. Oh my gosh, no, we started that. But we were being explained this new phrase from Jackie. And I were like, but why don't I-- Oh, wait, who's explaining it, my girls? Perhaps. Maybe. So they're off to say-- They're in there, cool, I'm not. You know. I guess they say it. But I feel like we sounded so old. We're like, well, why can't you just say it? Why don't you just say it out? Right? We couldn't get it. I don't know. I hate someone say this food was gas. And I didn't know if that was a good or a bad thing. I haven't heard that one. Yeah, this food is gas. And I was like-- So it is a good thing? Yes, a good thing. I didn't know gas was a good thing though. Trying to think. Yeah. Gas, that we sound like a terrible thing. Trying to think of the word ever I used to describe one of the fellow members on your team when she's gonna cringe when she's serious. But it was super fun.
- She's positive. She's disgusting. - No. - She's disgusting at her position. - Oh. - And I was like, you're sad. - And I asked, I was like, that's a good thing, right? And she's like, oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - Just disgusting. I'm like, oh yeah, she is. - She is. She is very good. - My new legacy title is an original. "Fully Custom Design" from the ground up to commemorate my career inside and out of the WWE ring. The belt features 907 crystals, golden metallic prints, a black velvet strap, and the center and side plates contain artwork and referenced the McMahon family crest. You can get my legacy belt now at WWE Shop and Fanatics. - Dude, I will say, I have always, this is like a complete conversation change for a second. - Okay, okay. - Since you started this podcast, I have been dying to come onto it. - You're kidding. - No, I'm being dead serious. - So you should just text me. - I know, but I don't want to want to find myself, you know, hey, can you do me this favor and let me come on then? - Come on, you're doing us a favor. - You're doing us a favor. - I just really thankful to be on hit 'cause I've been up and dying to get on this suck up for all of it. (laughing) - Well, we may hope we don't. - I hope we don't disappoint this bad boy. - Yeah. (laughing) - So, dude, make debuts, I do debuts, win championships. - They're A-A-M-A. - A-M-A. - That's a t-shirt. - Make debuts win championships. - Yeah, it's right. - It can't help myself, gosh. - That's right. - Yeah, everyone's really positive about it. That was really good, we're good. - And no one actually thought it was gonna happen. I mean, some did. - Yeah. - But because me and Breon actually, - That's the idea. - I didn't know what was gonna happen. - Yeah, it was a surprise. - Yeah, they thought maybe Bailey and Lyra or, you know. - Yeah. - Which. - Okay, sorry, I'm 80 on the D-Bring right now. I'm going all over the place. - It's good. - But Lyra actually predicted me winning the deepest championship all those years. - Yeah, I think I know. - She was a big fan of AJ and I. And she had tweeted a long time ago, it was 2014, the day before us was debut. She was like, I predict that Paige is gonna debut tomorrow and she's gonna take the championship away from AJ. - I was like, how did you know that? And then like, all these years later, we're in a match together and I thought that was really cool. - So many full circle moments. - Yeah, right. - Yeah, super cool. Like crazy. - Crazy. - So yeah, sorry, I have ADHD, so I do go all over. - No, I'm waiting for this is your podcast. - I'm dead. - No, no, I love it. I love it. We're here to talk about you anyway. - Me. - Yes. - So I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me. - No, thank you, thank you so much. So tell us a little bit if you, you know, whatever you want to share, whatever you feel comfortable sharing, whatever you want to talk about, not to steal that line from you, Cody, but, you know, it is about your story and your journey. And yes, there was a movie about it, right? And then there's this long period of time where people don't know, you know, sort of what was going on with you. - Yeah. - I think, you know, you hit a low, really low. - The bottom, yeah. - Yeah, never put an intended like. - And what was that, whatever you feel comfortable describing what that was like for you, but most importantly, what was the climb out? - Oh my gosh, yes. So, you know, I got into a bit of trouble when I was younger, like I started drinking a party with the wrong people, you know, and then I ended up having like a certain relationship that wasn't the healthiest, you know, and like I kind of relied on the drugs when it comes to that too. And then on top of that, these tapes get released, you know, from when I'm 19 years old, which is I never wish that on anybody. I was so humiliated. - I'm so sorry. - I was devastated and it is very hard to talk about, but also like, it's weird. It's hard in these settings to talk about, but I can joke about it behind the scenes. - Well, 'cause you're joking about that. - Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, I'm very quick to joke about it. But yeah, and so. - It's a defense mechanism. - It is, yeah. - And a survival tactic. - Yeah, exactly. And I just remember when they got released, I was on drugs in a certain relationship, and then there was, my neck as well. It was my neck, so as you might, and so I wasn't at work. But I remember you guys were constantly reaching out to me, and they were like, we can't help you, and they should tell us what's going on. We cannot help you in this, you want the help, but we want to help you, you know, so they kept reaching out, and I was like, I'm fine, I'm fine. And you guys even flew me out to Connecticut and sat down with me and was just like, you have to talk to us, you have to let us help you. And I'm like, I'm fine. And then I remember you bringing me to a Tampa Raw, and you did this whole medical checkup on me, 'cause I got really skinny. I'm mad to my hair, I was very skinny. And I remember I had to put my arms on the wall, so they could see the bones in my back and stuff, just to see, and they were like, we want to help you. But we can't, and then she won us too, and I'm just like, I'm fine, you know, eventually. And so I went through that really awful stage, and I was actually talking to Amy Lea today, and she was just talking about that time in my life, and she would be like, Heron Renee would talk about, even in like, this is a joky way, but it's like a harmless joky way, but she was like, which one of us is gonna have to go rescue her from the trunk of a car? You know, like that kind of thing, and I remember Renee coming to see me in the middle of that time too. - Ripping on the square. - Huh? - Yeah, exactly. And so Renee came and saw me, and she said, after the fact she was like, I've never felt such an intense, weird feeling being around you, 'cause usually it's like very comfortable and stuff, she was like, I was just so worried, and I caught all my family. I caught all my friends. I caught all you guys, you know, 'cause I was convinced you guys hate me. You know, I was convinced no one wanted me around. I was convinced, you know, I was alone. And then when these tapes came out, you know, I ran out of the house door, took off. Cap, run, run, run, run, run. And like, I see the first thing come up, the second thing I'm up, and I'm like, oh, and again, I wasn't in the best situation. And so I was like, I ran. So I ran and I ran outside this grocery store, and I hid in this bush, and I'm like, if, where are you, what country are you in? - In Texas. - Oh. - I'm in Texas. - Yeah, which is it's all country. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm in San Antonio, Texas, and I hid in this bush, and I said, if my dad is not okay with this, 'cause I'm being like, people are humiliating me online. It is bad. It was bad. - And you're reading it. - I'm reading it, and I'm just like, I'm sick, and I'm like, oh my gosh, people can see me. - I can see you. - And I made mistakes in these videos, and stuff that I would never do. You know what I mean? It's just, it's your private life. - It's my private life. - Yes, and you're allowed to have a private life. - Yeah, I was young. - At least you're 19 years old. - Thank you, arm. - Yeah. - And so I was like, I, it's gonna be really hard. - You fucking got me. (laughing) - You fucking got me. God damn. - You were just talking about this. I was like, oh no. - Mm. - Ha. - That's fine. - No, you don't. - You don't need time. - Take your time. - Damn it. I'm not going to cry in front of people. So I see, I hide in this bush, and I say, I call my dad, and I was like, if my dad doesn't accept me for this, I'm gonna kill myself. That was it, you know? I was like, I can't be here anymore. So, again, I was at a stage. - Thank you. - Thanks. - Thank you. And so I went through that stage, and I felt like I was completely alone. And I felt like my dad is my life, you know? And if he can't accept the fact that these tapes are out, I don't know. I was ready to do it. I was done. And so, I called him, and he was fucking fantastic. (laughing) He was fucking fantastic. He goes to me, it's alright, Princess. He was like, everyone has a sex life. You know, yours just happened to be on the internet. And he goes, you know what? (laughing) He goes, you know, you could be famous like Kim Kardashian. And it's true, it could work in your favor. I was like, I was fucking Kim Kardashian. I was like so confused. And he saved my life that day. He saved my life. He absolutely saved my life. 'Cause I was ready, like, I was doing everything I can just to not be in this year anymore. And I was just, that was the lowest I've ever been in my life. Lowest, and I never thought I'd reach that point of like wanting to do harm to myself. I'd reached it. And my dad saved my life, yeah. - What would you say to people who are feeling the same way you did? - Yeah, they can all learn. Absolutely not. You convince yourself that you're alone. You are not alone. And the best thing you can have, and you learn this in therapy, thanks to you guys, getting me therapy, is community is the most important thing around you. - Yeah. - So the people that you have, like, oh man, I'm so lucky and I'm so blessed to have the most positive influences around me, the most happy people around me. And my two best friends, when I got, when I made the call to you guys, I was like, I wanna come home, the first time I came back, you guys bought my flight, you got me home back to Orlando, I moved in with two of my best friends, Joey and Rick Almich, and then it's too amazing. But I moved in with them, so they can make sure that I was safe and that I wasn't doing anything stupid, and they got so cool with me. - Wow. - Like, so, it was really great. I had that community and then you guys got me this. - Yeah, think about the influence you had on that. - Oh man, yeah, they're still so over to this day. - Yeah. - It's really great. And they moved to LA with me, like, they've just always been my life support, you know, my people, 100%. And then you guys got me a drugs and alcohol counselor, Bob Keeler, who I love, I mean.
- Oh man, I love that guy. And I would call him a great guy. - Relationship problems. - Yeah. - I don't be like, "Oh, I know this is your job, bro, but I need to speak to you." - I was so glad. - Oh man. - He was the best and I could call him at any point of the day. And then he arranged a psychiatrist and a different therapist where they don't even touch you. They're just doing this energy thing around you. - Really? - He got me, I was speaking to three therapists a week, including him. And I had extreme PT. - And this is what you needed. - That's why you needed. - Yeah. - Yeah, again, communities the most important you guys, like that is like, like people love you. They, you don't push anyone away. Do not, do not. And the people that see anyone in that position, don't walk away from them. Keep trying hard. I know that you need a wait for their switch to flip in their hand, but eventually they will wake up and it's important that you be there for them. It's really, really important. And luckily I had that community. But I remember I had really bad PTSD coming out of all that. And again, the person that I was with or whatever and my whole body would start shaking. And it was really bad. And I still get the shakes now, but it's less than it was. And I remember the first day I was coming back after everything, after that year and a half, I just pure held. I was finally gonna come back and it was the back. Did you miss me? And that's when Stephanie, I was, before I went out, I was crouched down on the floor and she'd picked me up. She came over, she was like busy, but she came, she picked me up. She gave me this big hug. She whispers in my ear, this will always be your house. And she goes and you start at this whole thing, now go out there and enjoy the moment. And she said and then just stand there and let it breathe. She's like, don't talk. If they're allowed, don't talk, just let it breathe. And I was like, okay, okay, yeah, I got this, right? And I go out there and the crowd just erupts and it was freaking fantastic. By remember, an hour before, one hour, a couple of hours before that, I couldn't even walk in the building. I had to text TR at the time that we had, Mark. And I was like, I can't come in there. I can't come in there. And he comes and gets me and he puts his arm around me and my whole body's just like, like I was so scared. I was so scared of what everyone thought of me. And I still had even with the therapy in the back of my head that I was disgusting, not in the good way you guys are. - No man, not in the new way. - No, not the new way, but I thought I was like, I was disgusting. I thought people didn't like me. I thought you guys hated me, but man, you made me feel so great. Like you gave me the warmest hug. I mean, you did it again today. You gave me the warmest hug. It gave me the warmest hug. Then it gave me the warmest hug. Like you guys were just like, I'm just glad you're alive. You know, and we're happy that you're home. - You know, unfortunately we've seen it go the other way. - I know. - And you're so special. - Thank you. - And it's like, we can see it from afar 'cause it's, you know, it is a pattern. It's a vicious cycle that happens to some people. - Yeah. - And some people also, it's because of the fame. It's everything that goes with that much attention. Right, the negative comments now probably make that even worse. Right, on 100%. But it's like, it's a lot to handle that kind of attention and energy all the time. And everybody knows who you are. And like if you misstep, and especially, and most of them are very young. - Yeah. - Right, so it's like, of course you're gonna say stupid shit sometimes. - Yeah, first you're gonna have a bad day or whatever. - Exactly. - And then you're judged as evil. - On the most evil person of all time. And you deserve to die. - Yes, and exactly, it is that dramatic. - It is that. - Yes, it is. Like you just feel, oh my God, you can make a silly comment about something and then all of a sudden, like you're, yeah. - Yeah. - That's so unpeakable. - You can miss something. - Yeah. - Oh, sorry. - And we're talking about these young kids, they don't care about their spell, but it's like, it is anything. - 100%. Yeah, people are really unpeakable. - Some people, some people. - Yeah. - Like the majority right now, you guys are being amazing. Thank you so much for the rest of your eyes. But we'll see how you are next week, all right? (laughing) It takes like one week for you guys to flip. - We know all about that honeymoon period. - Yeah. - Mine's quick. Mine's always super fast. - Yeah. - I'm not reading it next week. (laughing) - Yeah, going out, but going out in public as well, after all of that, was like. - I can't imagine. - I was so surprised. - So how did you handle that? - Oh man. - I mean, how did you get to the other side of, I mean, 'cause there's nothing you can do. - Nothing. - Right? - It's out-counter. - Can't change you. - Yeah. - And really, who gives a shit? - Right. - Right, at the end of the day, right? But that's not easy. - Yes. - And you're at rock bottom. So your dad saves your life. Now, how do you get over this? - Free build from there. - Yeah. - There was a quote that I really like, and it says, like, if you can change it, why are you stressed? Why are you stressing? And if you can't change it, why are you stressing? And so, like, I kept that in the back of my mind, even though it was very hard to live by. (laughing) But I kept that in the back of my mind. But just walking the street, I was very embarrassed. And then I remember this one time, I was like, in this bar with my friends, not drinking, but I was in this bar eating and stuff like that. And someone was drunk, came up to me and he was like, "Oh, you're the fucking porn star." And I was like, I like froze, ran into the bathroom, cried my eyes out. Sobbed, 'cause I was like, that's what I'm gonna be remembered for. Nothing that I've done, all these good things that I've done in wrestling or whatever, the reality show, like, doing all these things, that's what I'm gonna be remembered for. So, like, I had that in the back of my mind too. But all I kept thinking is it's like, I've reached rock bottom and I never wanna see it again. - Yeah. - So I was like, and you guys actually helped me big time. So, yes, I came back. Yes, within six weeks I had to retire from wrestling completely. And everyone was scared at that point within six weeks that you were y'all gonna-- - I was gonna head back. - Yeah. - I was like, no. But you guys took me aside and you were like, so I had to do the retirement speech, which I'm so thankful Vince gave me that opportunity because not many women back then got to do a retirement speech. You know, so I was like, wow, I can't believe I'm doing this. And then I got pulled to the side and they were like, okay, we need you for SmackDown. And I'm like, why, I don't wrestle anymore, you know? And so I was trying to keep that positive mentality. I'm like, well, they're not gonna need me anymore. And I was in my head and stuff, but I wasn't thinking about drinking or doing drugs. I was like, I'd reached-- - You know, the other side. - Yeah, so the other side for that one. But I was still, everyone was still very worried about me. So everyone was kind of baby and me. Like, you can't be like, you can't even-- And I feel like you guys definitely help me big time. When I came back the next day, it was like, road dog and the right is never one that kind of cornered me in the corner. Like, okay, you're gonna be GM. And I was like, oh my god, this is great. And then they were like, they can't tell anyone. And I'm like, fuck, you know? So it was like, and your brother was the one that introduced me. It was just like, the crowd erupted and that kind of gave me a new fire. - Yeah. - And it got me really excited to come to work because it was something completely new. I wasn't in the division anymore. So I didn't have to worry about-- - It's my time, great, great. - I'm gonna do all that kind of stuff. The matches, I just had to worry about the five or six promos I had to do live that day, which was in Timiday and it's like, you remember those days Jackie? - Yeah, though I must say, I don't feel like the gift of gab is a problem for you. - Oh man. (laughing) Oh, I can talk. I can yeah, that's right, I can do it. But trying to remember everything, like we were going to-- - No, I know, yeah, it's very nerve-wracking. - It was tough, it was tough. I mean, you do it perfectly. I already say you're one of the best promos ever. You employ him and-- - Bless you. - Oh, say that. Oh my god. - Chef's kids. Because you're so good at it. And so like, you know, I get on the mic and I'm not as good as you. But I can, yeah, I can do it. - That's why you need to be able to do it. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm like, I can cover it, don't worry about it. - That was the thing, I mean, it got to the point, well, go ahead. - No, no, no, no, you can do it. - No, no, but like for promos, it was, I mean, there was one day I remember specifically where, and I don't mean to, I'm not saying this in a negative way, but it was like just a time period where maybe scripts changed or whatever. And I had this whole promo that I hadn't seen all day. And the person who was responsible for it would share it with me until it was approved by Vince. He approved it in the commercial break before the money entrance. - No! - And then that person runs off to go print it. I'm like, I turned it and I looked at him and I'm like, so I'm going out there in about a minute and a half. It's the commercial break before my entrance. This person just ran to print the promo. Can you please tell me what you want me to say? - Oh my gosh, what's that? - Did you nail it? - I did, I got the points. I got the points. Yeah, but that's the thing you got to just-- - You have to learn. - But stick the points in your head and then you can figure out the rest. - Well, those are other times, thanks to your dad. He had given me a promo for AJ and the fans loved this promo. If some reason, thank you, gosh, I remember that. But it was like a Valentine's card. And he was like, I want you to go out there and read a Valentine's card to AJ. And there was this whole poem in it. And the writer gave it to me like, look at it like an hour before and I was like, great. And I was like, you know what I should do? I should practice this on my head, just in case. - Just in case. - Just take it away from me, you know? - Right. - Because you know what he was like. - Yeah, yeah. - I was like, things would change on a dime. - Yes. - And so, as I'm about to walk through the curtain, he stands up and goes, right, get out of here. And I was like, okay. And he goes, she don't need last minute. - Oh, fuck. He goes, give me that. And he was like, you don't need that. And I was like, oh my God, and lovely. - Give it to me, I need a last minute. (laughing) - Luckily, I went out of there and I remembered it because I just, I got so used to him so the things. - The change in smart. - Yeah. - So quickly. - Yeah. - You got to be prepared. - Right? - That's it. - You just got to try to imagine every possible scenario and prepare for it. The thing is, he would always still find the one thing I didn't prepare for. Like, I would have a business plan. I'd have everything all mapped out. And I tried to poke holes in my mouth. - I am laughing. - No, no.
But it's amazing, the knock, right? I thought of every scenario I could, and it's just experience is the best teacher, right? Because I don't know all of the situations. I only knew what I had lived through at that time. So I had to come make the presentation, think I'd know. And he would always, and he was great. Like he would always listen, and we'd get to the end, and he'd go, and it would always be a pause, like a good 30 seconds. Oh, God. And he'd be kind of just very thoughtful, right? And then he'd go, what about this? And it's like, why are you doing this to me? Why did you have to ask about that? Like I didn't think about that. Well, sir, I'll get back to you on that one. Yeah. It's the worst feeling in the world. It's the worst. It's the worst. And you know what, really unprepared. Yeah, even though you went in with 20 possible backup plans, yeah, they just, you'd always find the one. You always find it. Yeah. And you know what, we had FCW before NXT. And so the thing that really helped was Rest and Peace to this King right here, but Dusty Rhodes. Yes. Love that guy so much. Absolutely. He, I remember my first promo ever, FCW. Matt, can I ask you a question before you tell the story? Did you know of Dusty when you were growing up as a part of a wrestling family in England? Were you? Oh, yes, son of a plumber. Yeah, all right. I'm sure. I wasn't sure. Love that guy. Media was different. He was very hard on me, but because he loved me so much. Yeah, and he saw something. Yeah, he would always say, you're not like, you know, the rest of the girls, like you're something special. And he was so great, but he would freaking give me a hard time. I tell you, I've got a couple Dusty stories. So the first one is, I just get there. I'm like 18 or 19 years old, you know, baby. And it's intimidating to do a promo from your peers. So the first day I'm there, I'm doing a most intimidating. That's the most intimidating. And so I go up there and I do, you know, the generic promo. Like you see in the movie and stuff. And he was like, no, okay. And then he goes, Roman, we used to be called Leake back then. He was like, Leake, baby, get up there. (laughing) I just met this guy, you know, and he was like, okay, like he didn't have to do anything. He just had to sit in a chair. And then I had to pretend that he dumped me and stole my toaster. (laughing) And I had to like do this whole promo while he's just sitting there like, you know, I was like, oh, God, this is terrible. But it was intimidating. And he would do that all the time. And then he'd be like, okay, baby, you've got an invisible letter. And you have to go through all the stages of emotion. Like you'll read, it was always a breakup. Wow. He will. He just probably thought that was relatable. Yeah. (laughing) So I had to do all these different like happy sad mad, like all these kind of things. And then there was just one day where he was like, I need you to be the mysterious Raven head lady, right? And then he was like, I need you to say a lot without saying anything. And I'm like, (laughing) I was like, okay, how do I do? Okay. And then at one point I got, and this we had moved to the PC at this point and I was just really frustrated. I didn't have any creative in my head. I was like mad as hell. And I delivered this terrible promo. I admit it was bad because I was being lazy with it. I was like, I can't think of this promo that you keep on wanting me to do. And none of it is good enough. So he was like, I asked you for chicken dinner and you give me chicken shit. And I was like, fuck you motherfucker. And I stand up and I run off and I run upstairs in the PC, you know, into the room, I'll talk to him. And then also about like a minute later, I heard knock at the door and he was like, is my porcelain princess in there? (laughing) I love that. I opened the door and I'm like, I'm really sorry, Dusty, he's like, sit down. So he's sat in the step and he goes, first of all, nobody calls me a motherfucker. (laughing) And I was like, I am so sorry, Dusty, I just got beaten. And then he went into his big spill. He's like, the reasons why I'm hot on you is because I know you're gonna be special. You are gonna be a big thing, you know? And you should treat these promo classes like you're in front of 10,000 people or at 8,000 at WrestleMania or whatever, and he's giving me this big spilt. Yeah. And then he gives me a big hug, you know, and he tells me, you know, don't call him a motherfucker anymore. But I was like, you've heard, I've read it there. You're like, yeah, I respect him, but I was like, yeah, I'm really sorry, Dusty, and I promise I'll deliver the next time. And so the next promo I did, I went completely out of my comfort zone and I sang. Really? Yeah, I sang. I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna do something completely opposite to what he's asking me. Wow. Just so I can get more comfortable again. Sure, sure. So I did this promo with sugar rarro and we did this promo at the end, we just sang together. And it went really well. It was like, this is great. This is what I want to see, you know, and I was like, okay, but you asked you for mysterious and all that kind of stuff. I was like, what have Dusty? This is what you want. That's good. So then I started just doing promos where I would take scene that movies. Oh, yeah. And I'm just reenact him or do something a little different. I did some stuff with Bailey. I remember a bunch of these promos got leaked onto the internet. Oh, yeah. And there was one where like, I did a promo with Bailey when she was still doing the hugger gimmick with this one. Right. And it turned me into like, the scream queen, you know, where I was just like, I'm a big fan of you, Bailey. I love you. And I was like, you know, I give her a hug and she rejects me. And I'm just like, oh, I can take care of it. It's green. And like, I just had so much more fun with it because I kind of just had more fun with it. That was the whole point. It's what he was trying to get you to do. Exactly. And we'd have like Christmas where we do karaoke and stuff like that. I miss him so much, miss him so much. He was so great and he was so knowledgeable and so talented. And he's stuck up for us a lot. Yes. I'll go back every single time he was so great. He was a great leader. Oh man, so great leader. So great. I miss him. I miss him a lot. And funny. So funny. Such a character. I mean, only inner business. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Oh, what are you up to? Yes. Oh my god, no. Oh, yes. You got it. Yeah. Oh my god. Can you turn it up? Why? Because I like burgers, jokes. I like to wear my hands last week. And I like bars. I can see that. But I know one more thing that you'd like. This guy is ready to give it to you. What? A hug. Is that-- No. Look at me. I'm sorry. You guys are so young. I know. You look like you're a kid. Freak? Oh my god, little scurvy girl. My head's really bad. [LAUGHTER] But hey, is that wound up being your screen? It didn't end up being my screen. And everything. You know the first time I came there, like the reason why I got signed was because I was different. Right. And I remember Hunter being like, I always remember, he shook my hands and welcomed my board. And I was like, oh my god, huh? Like, Trump and Hick shook my hands. You were different and special. You just still understand. Thank you. But at the time, I was just like, ask because I'm a little golf-like-a-loan about. You're just yourself. Yeah. And the trainer at the time down there, he's not there anymore. But he was convinced I had to be like a diva. He was convinced he was like, you need a wear color. And like-- And I was like, OK, I'm trying. But the reason why I got signed was because of the way I look, you know? And so I kind of pushed back a little bit. And then he was telling me that I couldn't do my screen on my entrance and stuff. And I was just like, well, it's kind of-- My gimmick. My gimmick. Yeah. And then, Dusty was just like, no, no, no, no. She needs to do this. So they would bicker over it all the time. But he was like, no, I'm the head coach. I know she's not supposed to scream or dress like that. And so you guys had-- we would be brought up on the rain road so every time we come to Florida, just to visit a raw smack down, right? And so there was a raw there. And I wore a blue dress because I thought I had to wear some color. So I wore this blue dress and super pale with this blue dress. I used to wear way more pale than this. Like, I was sickly pale all the time. The poor Slymprons. The poor Slymprons. I love that. I love that. And so I thought I was really proud. And I'm like, oh, look, like a diva. I look like a diva, right? And I was so proud of myself. And I thought my trainer at this time was going to be proud of me. And then afterwards, we all get back to the training facility and he talks to all of us saying, everyone did a great job and stuff. And he goes, I just want to give one person their flowers. They went above and beyond, did exactly what I asked them for. And I'm really freaking proud of them. So some array. And he tells us some array. I know she's got beautiful, you guys. She had blonde tashes. I remember her. Yeah. And I was like, you know, just your typical stunning diva woman. And I was crushed. And I was like, I will never-- You'll never fucking be able to do. Yeah. I'm never going to make you happy. I'm never going to please you. I'm going to be completely myself. I'm going to stick to it. And at the time, there wasn't anybody like me. Now. So why was I trying to change for a trainer that-- There's still nobody like you. There's no one like me now. Yeah. 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Well, after all that, no. - I didn't even know where I've been at job. - So I guess-- - It was community. - Yeah, yeah, community was the biggest. - Coming back to Wagon. - Yes. - You guys kind of just taken care of me, but community's the number one. - And what about positive thoughts? - Oh, that's so important. That's so important. And I find it still hard to the state to think positively all the time. And I feel like maybe not everyone believes that what you put out in the world you receive, but I do believe that. So I was like, when I was putting out negative stuff, - Right. - Only negative stuff in my way. - Right. 'Cause like, it's the law of attraction. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - Exactly, so eventually I'm like, "Okay, I need to be more positive." And it's easier to send the done. Trust me, I still get in my head sometimes. But yeah, thinking positive thoughts consistently will help you big time. 100% going outside. I know it's like everyone says, go outside and touch grass weather. No, go outside and touch grass. - Yeah, no, it does. - Like it's grounding. - Yeah, it is. - It's very grounding. So you can just being out there, like being active. Like when I get homes, like I do get in the rut, 'cause I travel all the time. I do these signs, and now I'm back on the road with you guys. Like I don't know how long, like the schedule's gonna be, right? - Right. - Right, busy all the time, right? - I'm just like this, pause you having busy. I just want to home, I just kind of like to rot in my couch. - Yeah, me too. - I just want to kind of be alone. - You too, you too, you don't want to see anybody, you want to rot in the couch, you want to do him scoring one. - I want to cuddle with my dogs. - My dogs, sorry. - Cut it. - And we started messing up. - And this is not the order and cuddle with my kids. - Yeah. (laughing) - Oh, it might be. - I am missing my dogs right now. - My kids are here. - Oh, yeah. - You have the big dogs, I have the dogs. - I have the dogs, yeah. - You do. - But the dogs. - Yeah, they are. - They're big, they're big, - I think that they're swarming. - Gross messes on my walls. - I would guess everywhere. - So, you don't see. - Yeah. - People don't understand, 'cause the jowls. - Yes. - Yes. - The jowls are so long that they flip up when they shake their head. - I can't wear black all the time, 'cause I'll just get little snail trails over there. - Yeah, it's good, it's lovely. - Yeah, yes. - I'm at her house in black. - Yes, yes. - He comes with Gus. - Well, and Gus, he hasn't been neutered yet and he kind of has a thing for a lease. - Oh, he's a little. (laughing) - You getting humped? - He starts like looking her arm and then he's like, - Oh, okay. - And then I can stare, sitting very close. - Massive. - He does. - I'm like, - You're like, I can't fight you. - Next step, buddy, you get up. - What do you want me to do? - I just laugh. - She's best, she's better than me. - She's better than me. - She got to smile, finish. - But like, he just puts his big, sweet face on my arm. - Oh, and he's sweet, and like, big, sweet face. - Big, one walks away and my arm is just like, it's fine. - Yeah. - Yeah, and then like, he wants you to hold his bone for him. - Oh. - So he can chew it. - And by the end, like his whole lip is hanging over your wrist. - Totally. - It's just dripping down. It's so gross, your hands in his mouth, like-- - Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I am a dog like that, too. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, it's disgusting. - Disgusting. - Disgusting. - This wall was my first. - I actually go one Z's for anyone that comes in my house. - Oh really? - Yeah. I'm protecting you. - Oh, I mean, at least we should get in here soon. - Yeah, no. (laughing) - One Z's, one Z's. - I do. - So I have like a five, like, I got thanks given when I had friends giving. - Yeah. - My house. - Yeah. - Yeah, I was like, hey, you're safe. I'm my biggest dog. - What do the onesies look like? - So the onesies, oh, that's like-- - Picture and shrubs. - That's what they put. - Right? - Right? - Then we find these ones. - So do they even bother getting dressed up because they know they're gonna put on-- - There's no point. - There's no point. Then we find this one Z. I put it in here somewhere. - Oh here's blue. - Oh here's blue. - These are, this is the ones I got off Amazon. - Oh. - Oh, sorry. - Big pre. - Like PJ would used to get-- - Yeah, I must say they're very hot. - Yeah, we get. - They're hot. - They're very hot. - They're hot. - Like my house is very cold. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, I like a cold. I feel like you sleep very cold. - Is it too hot in the suit? - No. - No, it's fine, right? - Like, is it worth it? - Well, I'm not in those fur-- - I'm sorry about that. - No, I just said, I would be tripping sweat in the fleece. - Oh yeah, and like, this worth it. - Well, we did it for our family, for Christmas. Like I always get, you know, the Christmas PJs. - Yeah, of course. - And, this one year I had done those. - And everybody, like, my poor and lost were like, taking it off and sweating. - Oh, it's bad. - And just, it was bad. Like, everybody was so hot. - Well, that's why, Zach actually my makeup was. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, but he did this thing where he put all the ones he's in the dryer. - Uh-oh. - And he mulled the mall. - Uh-oh. - So I had to give them to everybody, and they're like, it shouldn't stuff like that. - It was a nightmare. - That was like that. - You were, you were, you were just trying to fluff them. You were trying to do something sweet. - Yeah. - It was just ones, you know. - Yeah. - You were just trying to fluff them, make them warm, make them do you wrinkle all those, like, the ones they do. - Oh, that was awesome. - Yeah. - It was very sweet. - Yeah, you got to draw him on low. - Yeah. - Hang dry. - And everyone got the last 50. - Oh. - You took it for the team, maybe. - Yeah, he did. - He did. - What a guy. - You know, my makeup artist has been nine years. I stole them, I told Divas. - Wow. - Yeah, I saw them from tall Divas. - Wow. - Take them everywhere with me. My original support human. (laughs) - Yeah, I'm sick of it. - I bet. - Yeah, exactly. He keeps me positive. - But I bet you're there for him too. - Yeah, I try to be. - Am I? - That's a friendship. - Yeah, definitely. - Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't wanna answer him. - You can't be together nine years in a long time. - Yeah, not have a relationship. - Yeah, he's a good guy. He takes care of me. - That's great. - I love you. - Oh. - Come on, baby. - He's doing heart hands. - I always forget what we're talking about because we go all over the place. Well, I do. - Well, no, it's good. - Yeah, we're clever enough. - We're clever enough. - So, back to the first question. - How do we get out of this? - So, here's where we are. Here's where we are. Community and positive thoughts. - Community and positive thoughts. - And now, is there a third? - Um. - So, let me ask you a question. Is faith a part of your healing? It is for some, not for others. - You know, it never was. I'm very open-minded to it though. - Okay. - I went for a stage. I got raised in a house. My dad's a religious man. And he never forced that on me. But any time I had religious studies or whatever, I'd go to my dad and get like, little cheat sheet from him. - Right. - Yeah. - And he'd love doing that. And so, he is a religious man. But yeah, he always let me think for myself and all that kind of, there's a lot of things that I see when it comes to the Bible. I'm like, "Oh, like, but someone told me recently, it's just the message behind it." - Right. - You know, maybe something in the Bible, it doesn't seem logical to you, but it's like the message behind it. So, I'm definitely open-minded to it. - Right. - And like, I did have, I've told this story before, where I had this moment where I was in a bad situation, and I just wanted to get out of it. And there was nothing I could do to get out of it. And I was just terrified and scared and crying. And I was inside this closet. And I had this moment of like, I get where I prayed. - Yeah. - And I'm like, "This is my last resort kind of thing." And I did that, and literally, the next day, something switched to my head, and I was like, "I need to get out of this situation. I need to leave." And it took me so long to think like that, but maybe that was something that happened. - Right. - You know, maybe it meant to have, like, as a higher power or whatever. But I did have a moment where I was just like, "Wow, that was weird." You know, like, something happened. But yeah, I wouldn't say that I'm not a religious person, but I definitely over-minded to it. - But you have some degree of faith. - Yes. - Otherwise, you wouldn't have tried it in the first place. - Yeah, 100%. I wanted 100% so you know, having that moment, I was just like, "Okay, like, it really helped me, and it gave me comfort in that moment too." - Yeah. - You know? - That's the amazing part. - Yeah, it's really good. It's really, really special. So, and there's always like the stigma behind religion, stuff like that. - I know. - There's a stigma behind everything in there. - That's true. - You know, that's true. - That's true. - The only thing I like I say is just like, if someone doesn't force religion on me like that, then I'm very comfortable talking about it and doing it. But I just want to be able to think for myself when it comes to anything. When it comes to politics, religion, like everything. I want to be able to think for myself. I don't want someone to say that. - That's why I want the multiple perspectives. - Yeah, exactly. Like you don't want to be influenced by one way. You're like, "I want to hear it." Like you were saying, you know, - And then I choose different sides. Exactly. - They need truth for me. - Exactly what I choose to believe. - Exactly. And that's how I am. I don't like anyone to influence me. I like that way in brain. And it's like when someone says, they don't like somebody. I'm just like, okay, well, I will decide if I like them and I'll after I move them. - After you're on the chair. - Exactly, exactly. And this they did sound terrible. And I'm like, okay, maybe. - Yeah, maybe, maybe. - Yeah, but sometimes I tend to, and I'm like, let me think from myself. You mean I like them, but they've always been nice to me. - That's right. - And that's what you go by. - Yeah, exactly. As someone, dad raised me. I'm like, "Mom, sorry, I'm like, leave my mom, you're great, mom." (laughing) I love you too, she's got you're crazy. (laughing) - She still looks the same though. I just get my dad over the whole time. I'm just a daddy's girl. - Yeah. - I grew up, like my dad was a tough guy. You know, I got hit by a car, I had to wrestle the same day. - Yeah. - And like. - Well then your mom wrestled pregnant with you. - She didn't realize. So, well, it works, I'm like, he's done it and she's a trainer. Gorilla pressed her from the outside, from the inside to the outside of the ring. And she started getting these cramps and stuff. She started bleeding a little bit. - Oh shit. - She goes to, and she just had my brother. We're 14 months apart. - Oh, I wish to have a brother. - I wish to win. - Yeah. And so, she rushed to the hospital and she did not have a belly at all. For some reason, like, it's like a mind thing. - Wow. - And she didn't have a belly. And like, I see pictures from back then and she really didn't have a belly. It was crazy. And she was seven months pregnant. - Oh my God. - Seven months. - Yeah. - Wow. - She was like, damn. - But when did she show with your brother? - Yeah, she was huge with my brother. - Wow. - Huge. And so, she, uh, she went to the doctor and they were just like, I don't know if this is good news about news, but you're pregnant. And she was like, what? And you're like, that's seven months. - Seven months. - Seven months. I mean, you're pretty close.
- Yeah, you're popping out so I'm making a freaking entrance. - Yeah, yeah. - The page music, it's not like, exactly what I'm talking about. - Exactly, very bad. - And like, you know what I mean? - And so like, I was about to say, I'm like, I'm at the top first. - Yeah. - Ten in the land. - So then, she said that it is a mind theme because also, and she started to, then it was, she was like, "Oh, thank you for having me growing." And I was still a small baby. - Well, end up being a 7-pound 10. - That's like, yeah, yeah, it's a pretty good baby. - Someone has, and I, kids, that seems like a pretty good baby. - Yeah, yeah. - Like the size, especially, you were, I'm not, I was just, I was like, "I tell us to reach my absculeosis." - We always blame our mothers. - Oh, that's the reason. - And let me tell you, it's happening to me now. - Oh, is it? - Yes, it's all my fault. - Oh, is it? - Oh no. - Yes, always everything. - Why do we do that? - I don't know. - But it's okay. - Yes, I don't mind. - You'll let it take it. - Yeah, 'cause I've been, you know, I know what it's like from their perspective, at least in some way. And now I know what it's like from my moms. - Yeah. - Yeah. - My mom always said that mothers are to be flawed. - Well, yeah. - I'm in the stage where I wanna have babies to be. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm like, I see, like you talk about kids and stuff like that, you know, I'd be, I'd be 34, and I'm just like, I wanna freeze my eggs. - Yeah, you should. - I haven't told her in that, but I really do want to freeze my eggs. Yeah, and I just-- - You absolutely should. - I should, yes. - No, I clock start ticking. - Because there's nothing wrong with it, it's get them now. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, because our eggs do mature. - Yeah, they do. - Yeah. - And it gets harder to see, you know, and we wouldn't lessen less of them too. So I was like, oh, I really wanna freeze my eggs, and I see these kids come to my side and they, or like people bring their babies and just like, they'll be all that child. - It's so great. - Yeah. - And see the young kid just, his pregnant egg. - Yes. - You know, Naomi, I have like, - The ab, the pregnant baby. - That was wild. - Yeah, I saw the drug. - I saw the drug. - I was happy before I've never seen it. - She dropped the robe and we were like, she's pregnant. She has abs. - Yeah, in the same. - Everybody has his abs. - Oh, there's no problem, you know? - Right. - Yeah. - I'm like, well, that seems like Jade would have abs when she had a plane too. - Yeah, I think she had a plane too. - She had just show in shape. It's crazy. - Yeah, but the great thing about WWE, you know, is like, you know, people bring their kids on road. You know, everyone's walking out, babies bring them out, and then they, like the women are starting to have a little late, so I'm like inspired by it, you know, the bellies, the bellies twins had, like Renee had a kid, like, you know, like everyone's more mature when they're having kids. - That's right. - And that's true. - Although I will tell you, it's a harder recovery if you have them yourself. - Yeah. - As you get older and chasing them around is not as easy as you get older. - My body already hurts. (laughing) - Okay, but don't let that deter you. - No, no, I'm not. I really like, I went through one stage, I was like, no, no, no, kids, no kids. I mean, I still want to give it a couple of years. I should have freeze my eggs. - Yeah. - No, you're not saying you're leaving. - No, no, no, I'm not. - I'm just going to throw some eggs in. - You're back. - No, at least I'm. - That's why you're freezing eggs. - I swam freezing eggs. - Yeah, so like, you know, keep them in the freezer, save them for later. So, but yeah. - Get the best ones. I'm like, do you know, do you get the best down there? (laughing) - I wish I were the biggest freesties I could get it. - Yeah. - So I just, I really, yeah, I really do. I never thought I would get to that stage. I was like, I don't know if I want kids. - Right, well, and some people don't, yeah, unless they're-- - You know what, and if you don't want kids, then don't have them. - Exactly. - Because then they're, they're going to know. - Exactly. - You know what? - Oh, they're going to feel so great. - Yeah. - But I was like, yeah, I want them. I want babies. - No, that's great. - I have a little raya running around. - It's the best. - Oh, I was worried. - There's nothing like it in the world. - Oh, yeah, but if there's like a little mini, me running around, I'm like, I'm-- - I know what I was like. - I hope you have one exactly like you one day. - Oh, my-- - Well, do you-- - I don't know what I did. Oh, yeah. (laughing) - She's like, oh, yeah, I guess I did. - Oh, yeah, and all three in different ways. - Oh, my God. - It's a powerful curse. - They all look so gross. - I was just telling you, they all look so grown up. It's crazy. - Especially Aurora. - I had like a little connection with them. - I know. - It was just crazy just seeing them like, for the whole of fame, which you'll-- - Yeah. - We took about your video package too. - It was like, goodness. - It never even seen some of that footage. - It was beautiful. - Of me like, so young. - Yes. - And giving interviews about what I want my impact on the business to be. And I'm like, what night do you? I'm so young. Like, it's crazy. - It's so cool that they did that. - And call the impoture reli. - Sorry, I just want to call her out. - Yeah, no, it was-- - You go ahead. - It's good, but me over. - Yeah. - Go on. (laughing) - You want to pick up the title. (laughing) - That on your shoulder? - No, I just like, you were young, but you, what you were saying, and like, the way you were saying it in this younger, sweet voice, and then to see you today. And like, everything that's happened in between, it's been a little bit. But, that footage got me. I don't know, it was like, whoever knew. Whoever was filming it knew, like, somehow that it was gonna matter sometimes. - Oh man. It was beautiful. I mean, you've done so much in your career. Like, you're very inspiring for women, and anyone that's worked, any woman, or a man, but just speaking from a women's perspective here, any woman that's worked with you, have only ever set positive things. Like, you're very inspirational for a boss. You were so caring, you're empathetic. Like, you're understanding, and you, you stick up for us as women too. Like, you're an advocate for us, and you've always been like that, and I always appreciated that about you. And just seeing that package, I was like, man, she deserves it. And I was like, why has this you've been put in that way before though? I never understood it. It's, I was like, what's going on here? Why the delay? - You know what I mean? - It was the right time. - We were gonna talk to you. (laughing) - Well, the McMahon's were never supposed to be in the Hall of Fame, as I was always brought up. You know, we were characters that were intentionally designed to get other talent over. - Yeah. - So it was never about us. - You know, and that's just sort of like ingrained in my brain. - You look actually so powerful though. I mean, you got a reaction every single time. That never dulled. - The slap package was layered. - Oh my God. - The things I would hear about the show. - I feel so bad. Like, you look at them, I was taught to lay it in. - Oh yeah. - That's how you do it. - You have the right hook on you. - You need me to pull. - It's helped air drums of people go on. - Oh my God, I feel so bad. - That too. - I never thought I got people, and then all of a sudden I started to hear a lead. - Yeah. - That I got people, I was like, oh. - Well, they don't want to, I thought you were like, yes, definitely, that was great. (laughing) - What? - Stephanie McMahon, come on. - Yeah, I was like, I wish I could just get one slap, maybe down the road from you. - Oh my God. - No way, no way. - But that's like you, that's you. And that's like, that made me laugh though, just seeing you so funny. - It was so funny, it was so good. But people, I know. - And I love the activation of the world. - Oh yeah. - At fanatics, they have the dummy. - Oh, they do? - Yeah. - I didn't see that. - And you know I had it rigged, so I'm always at the top. - I should be clean. (laughing) - Tell 'em. - I should be clean. - I could tell 'em now. - Yeah, I'm gonna have to be normal. - That's great. - I was like, that's my one thing. - Yeah, I can't be beat. - It always looks so good, because it was real. - Yeah. - But it was so good. - Yeah, it was. - You had to, like slaps you can't think. - Yeah, it's true. - You cannot, you have to lay it in. - You have to lay it in. - 'Cause it's not me. - And the guys were like, if I'm gonna sell for you, you gotta lay it in. - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm a small woman, right? - Yeah. - You pack a powerful slap. (laughing) - I did one slap. No, I did a couple of slaps. - Yeah, it's a dude. - Slaps Laurence. - Yeah, yeah. - They're fun to do. - Spare Plarrows, all the shit out of it. - Yeah, I'm gonna fall over the place for you. - TJ did not sell mine, whatsoever. (laughing) - TJ, there was like, we were doing this for a while. - I knew when they don't sell. - Yeah. - It's the worst. - I was like, Brian won't sell my slap. - Yeah, that was a good one. - That was on the internet too. It was when Natty and TJ had that storyline where he was kind of like, pushing Natty's confidence down and would like take his celebrations and stuff. - Oh, right. - Like, you know, just being a narcissistic asshole. - I forgot about that. - Yeah. - And I was randomly with them at times, you know. And so he kept distracting me from the match, I ended up losing or whatever. I rolled out and I gave him this big wall. I slapped a shit out of him and he didn't move a muscle. Not even a thing. He just went and didn't do it. - Yeah, and he then and I was like, damn, that was really good. And I swung to the point I turned all the way around. - Right, yeah, you get a whip on it. - Oh my gosh, I spun it 360, dude. I was crazy, but yeah, he never sold it. - Yeah, Danny Brown wouldn't sell my slabs either. And I was slapping him with the right knife or it slapped him with the knife. - Oh yeah. - I was trying to do everything I could. - I didn't do shit. - I didn't buy. - I was just like, Mara. - Ricks' life would sell out of slabs. - Oh yeah. - He sold yours. - He was like, bump. - He'd bump on. (laughing) - He fell on the ropes, you know what I heard? (laughing) - Feeding for other ones. - Yeah. (laughing) - He was so funny, I was like, yeah, he goes slap, you go to slap all the good ones. - I did. - What was your favorite slap that you go to do? - So you know, I've been asked this now. - I bet, yeah. - And it's not my favorite slap. I don't know that I have a favorite, but one of the ones that was particularly good was when I slapped the Rocket League by Steve. - Oh yeah. - It just landed like perfectly. - I had a lot of velocity. - Yeah, yeah. - And I didn't even mean to, I think I was just like, geeks, 'cause I knew Ronda was about to come in the ring and I was like, really excited. - Oh yes. - Yeah. - Oh, that was so special. - Oh, so I mean, it had a lot in it. - Yeah. - A lot of emotion and that slap. - Yeah. - And man, it was a good one. - That was so exciting to watch. Like just to see the whole thing come together. It was great. And you and Bri, your storyline, I was like, you bitch. - I used to slap her. - You slapped her. - Yeah, was she gonna be like,
- Oh, yeah, she got me back. - I think you could stop her. - And I told her too, I'm like, you gotta lay it in. - Yeah. - It's same conversation. - Yeah, yeah. - And the girls are always tough. - Oh, girls are tough. - Yeah, we can handle. We can handle a right hook. - Well, and we'll go to the children. - And give an impact, right? - Oh, 100%. - Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I think she enjoyed it. - You give each other a seat. - Yeah. - There was a couple of steps I was told. You slapped her in the crowd, and then you slapped her off the side of the apron. - Yeah. - Where she never tried. - She'd be like, "Gee, heck, I'm gonna tip it down." I was like, "I'm dead." - I was like, "I want one of those." - I forgot what I said. It was such a great moment. It was just a fun, you know, sometimes they land like so well, and it did. And it was like, I was pretending to be upset and like that I agreed to the match, and then all of a sudden I just turned, and I slapped her off the side of the apron, and I called her a bitch. - Yes. - And people were like, "Wow, so fun." Are you ready to hold WWE history in the palm of your hand? Topps is bringing you closer to the action than ever before with WWE Topps Now, highlighting the biggest matches and milestones from WWE shows and PLEs throughout the year. Topps now is enhancing the fan experience by connecting collectors to the superstars and spectacles that ignite their passion. Featuring stunning event exclusive photography, each card is made for the moment. And for some lucky collectors, that moment could become the pull of a lifetime. Along with serial numbered parallels, some tops now releases offer a chance at rare short prints, superstar autographs, and even pieces of the matte, gear, or other items used during the featured match. So which moments will you collect? 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Like you're so good with your emotions. - I love that. - I love that. - Yeah, like I would watch yourself, 'cause we would have to watch tape, you know, and NXT and FCW. - Well that's how I learned too. - Yeah, you would just watch. - But the difference is while we're watching tape, maybe critiquing you or whoever, I'm hearing Kevin Dunn and Vince give their feedback. - At the same time as? - Well, I just mean like sort of the same situation. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like the conversation. So that's how I've always, and I didn't realize like the seat I had, right? The learning tree that I was under. But everything I learned, I learned while they're talking it through. You know, and it's like, I don't know, I think that was a great way to learn. - Yeah. - Because it causes you to think. - Mm-hmm. - You are hearing the multiple perspectives, right? So they're like sort of hashing it out. And I learned so much just. - Just like it consists of somebody doing it in the same way. - Yeah, and watching. - Yeah, and then seeing for other people and then knowing what they're looking for. - Right, 'cause now, okay, I know what you're looking for. - Sure, I'm gonna give you what you want. - Exactly, but you're so good. You're so good, the mean mug faces you do. - You know, like I love the mean face. - Oh, dude, you look, oh, she's like, I've been there a couple of times. - Yeah. - She's a picture of me, but I have one of you too. - Oh yeah, what is the picture? - Oh, it's your face. - Go on, it's in my face. - Prove it. - It's terrible. - I said I was gonna set it as the background of my phone. - But like you do this evil smile, dear. It's just like, oh my God. - 'Cause it feels good. - Yeah. - I was like, it's just so good at it. You're just so good. - I just enjoyed it. - Yeah. - And the people loved it. - Yeah, they do. - They loved to hate me. - Man, they loved to hate me. - But when I get them, you know, or surprise them, or whatever, they love to be had too. - It's really, you know. - Yeah, but you're so good to it. You can go out there and be a baby face very easily if you wanted to. But you can also turn people on down. No, you go out there, you have, and people get so excited when you first walk out, but then you go on the mic and you switch them like this. - Yeah, that's what I mean. - So good. - My honeymoon doesn't last. - It's like particularly fast. - Yeah, no, I feel, I feel it. It just makes me. - Oh no, it's been texted. I think it's gonna pop up here. - Oh, wonderful. - Let's see. - It's trying to air drop. - Oh, it hasn't gone through yet. - Oh good. - It'll get there. - Oh, maybe I've put my dead housing on it. It's not gonna go through. - I love that. - I love that. - I love that guy. - He's so great. - I love that guy. - Oh my God. - You such a mean person. - It was like the original. - Yes. - I'm glad that the fans came around really quickly. - Yeah. - Because I think they just didn't know at first. - What it was. - Or why we were doing it. - Doing it, you know? And now it's like, what 'cause he's really good. - Yeah, he's great. - Yeah, and he's got like this crazy charisma. - Yeah. - I'm trying to understand. - And only he can hold that kind of character off to. - Yeah, it's like very, and then to see him work, it was pretty good. - He's great work too. - Yeah. - So they'll see eventually when he starts like wrestling some more, but yeah. I love that the fans came around and they love him. - Yeah. - And I was like, he's such a good dude. - Yeah. - I love that guy. - 'Cause you know him how long? - Yeah, I was about four or five years now. - Yeah. - I would say. - That's great. - And then he saw him in Manchester. I was just signing out there. But like the weekend that he was taping away. And he didn't say anything to me. - Wow. - That was a very nice, though, it was a secret. - Sure. - But I was like, man, I was so happy for him. - That's awesome. - Yeah. - Did he get to meet his wife too? - No, I haven't met her yet. - She's like this pin up, beautiful. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, they're perfect for each other. - Oh, that's so great. - Yeah, I know. - I'm happy he's like, I'm happy about you. - I have fun about you. - I'm happy about the on time. - That's right. - Yeah. - Wait, man. - Where's his picture? - I don't know, I don't know. - I told you, I've put my electric voodoo on it. No, didn't work. - Oh, there you go. - Great, here we go. - This is the face she makes at me when I've disappointed her. - When you've disappointed me in particular. - Well, that was a photo shoot. And in the moment, something. - Well, there was a lot of things happening. - There was some things going on right. - How long have you guys been friends for a long time? - A long time. - Well, we're going on 10 years of working together. - Yes. - And I would say we were friends right away, for sure. - But it was a working relationship. - That's how you make a group. - Oh, I love that so much. That was the same thing with me and Zaka over there. - Yeah, that's right. - Work relationship, blossoms and the sun special. - Yeah, 'cause you're together, you get to know what the person likes. - Oh my God, it was so funny. - So, like, just one example of that. Sorry to cut you off. - Yeah, no, it's back. - We went out to dinner. And I don't really, I think that I, you know, don't wear my emotions on my sleeve, but she could read me like a book, I'm sure other people got to. But so this waiter comes over and it's just the two of us. One of the first dinners we had had just you and me. - Yeah. - And the waiter comes over and he's just irritating. The shit out of me, I don't know what he was doing. He was reading the wine list. - But it was something. There was something bothering me. - It was, but I didn't think I sold. Like I didn't think you could tell. - So that I was like irritated for no reason, right? Like I guess it was ridiculous. And then at least looks at me and she's like, "Oh, that guy, he didn't know when to stop." (laughing) - You're like, "I like you." You got it. - I was like, "No, wait a minute. How'd you know?" - You were like, (laughing) - It was just a moment. But he clearly wasn't paying attention. - No, and he continued for the rest of the evening. - He did. - We've never returned. - Yeah, I was kidding. - I feel like you would have pretty good poker face though. I don't think in all these years that I-- - Well, but she raised me like a book. - But she can read, yeah. - She's like a book. (laughing) - And I guess I was just saying what I'm thinking a lot. - 'Cause. (laughing) - Or yeah, just when you're like with someone all the time and in like good and bad situations and like meetings, like you were prepping for the Vince meeting with the 20 things and then you came back and I was like, "Fuck, what was it?" Like what do we need to know for next time? - Yeah. - Just the work, turn friendship, turn whatever this is. - What do they say about relationships formed in what crisis situations? - Oh, yeah. - Oh, that's, yeah. - And that's in the movie speed. - Where's the call out? - Or yeah, right. - But I don't know what the exact quote was. And then I said it some day, like recently. - Some random guy knew what it was, but I didn't retain it. - Anyway. - I didn't even know what you're saying. (laughing) - It's okay. I'm influenced by Paige right now. (laughing) - Sorry. - I'm under her spell. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, that makes sense. (laughing) - But are you gonna up or no? Am I? Okay, I didn't know if I was waiting for some. - I'm sorry. - No, no, no. - Who do you know? - Oh, Joe's like, I was like, "Am I waiting to be searching for something?" - Yeah, I know. I was like, "Are we waiting for something?" - Yeah, I'm scared. - Uh-oh. - Is it a photo of us fighting? - Oh God, what are you looking? He looks like he's up to something. It does, I agree.
You look like the cat that ate the canary right now. [LAUGHTER] It's pretty great. It looks like he's up to some-- Oh, OK. Oh, OK. You do have like this chuckle on your face. Chow. Chow. Chow. Chicky. Chicky. Chicky. Yeah, you look like your job to something, really. Look at that. [LAUGHTER] You're like, boy, just your voice is a high-pitched. We're taping, working hard this week, too. I'm not saying that. This team does all of the pods. Yeah. There's like a variation, but there's one big pod team. And they do. Look, Cody isn't in the room. Right? Correct me were among, but they do takers, codis, after raw logins when you're here. Right? Mine. Wow. Hours. Yours. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] Yeah. Yeah, me guys must be exhausted, huh? Damn. Yeah. Listen to people yapping. I should know this as takers, you know? Sorry. Sorry if I'm yapping a lot. No, no, no. You guys, takers, seen it happen? Yes. Was it? I can't even believe I just totally missed it. You were a little busy. No, but-- It's good. But how was it? Yeah? Oh, they did a podcast together. A live live. Yeah. Oh, good. When you said live, it made me think of it. Oh, that's awesome. Awesome. I was really looking forward to that when I got to catch it. Yeah. Oh, I love it. Good. I'm glad they got to mark. Yeah. I see John Alopso yesterday too, dude. Yes. Still the same guy. I know he is. He's like exactly the same. Yeah. I don't like this. He was so funny when he turned to the camera. And he was like, I'm not running. He's down the ground. Yeah. He used to do it a bit. He was doing it a while. That's right. Yeah, he doesn't have to do any of those. Yeah, that's right. He's tired. Now he's the host. I always get it. I wasn't going to be able to see him because you were talking about-- No, he's the host. The host. Yeah. What a guy. Right? Yeah. I love his Mrs. too. Yeah, she's sweet. She's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's very sweet. Yeah, I've heard nothing but positive things. And she seems very, very sweet to me. And she's gorgeous. Yeah, she's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lucky John, you know? Yeah, that's right. How do you get that one? I'm Jack and Johnny. [LAUGHTER] As they say. Yeah, yeah, exactly. God. So what are you-- Like, what are you feeling? What are you thinking in terms of your goals, right? Like in a couple of years, maybe we're going to have a baby, but we're going to free some eggs in the meantime. Yeah, we're going to free some eggs in the meantime. And what do you want to bring your champ already? I know. Right. That's great. That's great. And one half of Tag Team Champions. Are you so in-champ, baby? Like, how would you-- I'm going to ask a question from my video. How would you define your success in four to five years? Oh, my gosh. I just-- I came in this time with a mindset where I just want to be happy and have fun, because I don't think I'm going to be wrestling after this run. Right. Like, I want to just enjoy my time that I have here, embrace absolutely everything, just enjoy the journey. Like, that's all I care about. But I do want to finally be able to be in the Royal Rumble that I got to not be a part of. And do the elimination chambers and do all these stipulation matches that were not around when I was-- Yeah, we weren't allowed. Yeah. Oh, I had to be backstage in Gorilla when the Royal Rumble just started. And no one knew I was tired by that point. And so I just sat there. And I was just really sad. I was bit sweet. I was happy that the girls finally got this big match that we didn't have before. But I was sad because I wasn't a part of it. And I didn't know if I was ever going to be a part of it. And so to have this moment where I'm back in WWE, my neck is good. I'm resting again. And there is opportunity for me to be a part of these stipulation matches. I mean, man, I'm really excited. Good. I'm really excited for the next couple of years. That's awesome. I don't want to get myself into, but not trouble. Well, maybe the right kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, good car trouble. I'm afraid myself-- I think it's impossible for you to not get in trouble. I know, I know. I'm paying in the ask for mine. You cause that trouble. Yeah, you are trouble. I remember-- I remember when the Jackass production crew was backstage, and we got to prank a bunch of people. Oh, I didn't see that. And I didn't realize there was a no prank list, right? So I had this cowl prod. Do you remember Jackie? I had this cowl prod, which doesn't feel good at all. Yeah, and I was running around and zapping everybody with this sucker, dude. I like-- And you had to exempt yourself first? No, no, no. No, no. There he goes. I was like, no, I'm good. And in the end, I didn't realize Titus was on the no zap list. Oh, no, prank list. No zap. Uh-oh. We lost his lid, dude. I-- Wait, was this at Hall of Fame sometime? Was it that weekend? I didn't ask for it, and it was finding something. Yeah. It was like-- it was a busy week. It was definitely-- it might have been media. It might have been made. For some reason, I feel like it's one of those things that should hit the fan on. Because I think I remember hearing about it. Oh, it was bad. And it was like, wait, what? On top of all the things that happened, and then you have all the unexpected things that happened. And then she had a cattle prod. Yeah, for some reason, they gave me the cattle prod. And I like-- I like giving the lids a lot. Not even a gimmick cattle prod. No, it was a real cattle prod backstage. Damn. In my hands. We're thinking. Yeah, it was stupid. Yeah, you're given this 24-year-old this thing. And so I zapped Titus, and he lost his lid. He screamed. And he kicked the cameras. And it was like mad. It was like-- It was like two months. He goes into Vince. And he was like, page, electrocuted me. Dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad. Told me off. She stuck a cattle prod at my ass. Exactly. Exactly. It was on his cheek, I think. It was on his cheek. And so I go into the office because Vince calls me. He goes, can you stop electrocute people? [LAUGHTER] So is Luke. Yeah. I can do that. I can have a little funny. Yeah. And then she follows a little funny. He had like a sort of a human. Yeah. He was like, come on, please stop. He's like, come on. Yeah, he's doing it again. He's still lighting up. Exactly. Exactly. But stay away from Titus. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Titus, he's one of the nicest guys on the planet. No, he's the sweetest. I love him. Oh, man. He does so much for so many. The community. Yeah. And just-- Chari, he's like, he's great. He is. And an amazing human being. It really is. So I really zapped a really good person. So he did. You got a good one. Yeah. And he ignored me for two months drinking. No. Yeah, he did. Wow. And so eventually he came up-- Yes. --to hold my-- --to hold my-- --he's like, I'm on that no prank list. I had no idea. What he did, he makes you a target. Yeah. No one I could be so-- --but I also like prank list. Oh, I'm going to give you the cattle prod without the list. That's on them. They didn't tell me. But I mean, no prank list. I mean, no, not the giver. They should have liked-- You want to be on a no prank list. So you're well. Come on. But right, but I think it makes you a target. It does make you a target. So these five people I can't. Right. They're like, public enemy number one. 100%. Anytime I see that group, I'm going to be like, come with you. Yeah. Exactly. They couldn't get me-- --the one who doesn't want to get pranked. Yeah. They couldn't get me for the longest time with these prank. Every time I was like, this is a prank. This is a prank. Like, no. Right. Eventually they gave me like this-- Jeff Tremaine, he was the guy who gave Jack us. He eventually got me. So he was just like, he was like, page, come back here. I need to do some voiceovers really quick. And I was like, OK, so he went into like this little pipe and drape area. And he gets me to sit on this store. And as I sit on the store, it electrocuted me. And it went-- He pressed the button. And it went from my legs all the way up into my neck. Oh my god. Really? Bad. And he was dying. It was so painful. Oh my god. What happened now, Pron? What happens? Do your-- My whole body was like real stiff. Yeah. And I went like fully stiff and I fell to the ground and stuff. And I was like, oh my god. I didn't get mad. I was like, hey, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. Like, you got me. Yeah. I was ungetable. But like the whole time they were there. Did they ever tell you that Titus actually set that up? No. Oh my god. I was like, hang on a second. Imagine I was like, 10 years later. I was like, oh, sorry. Yeah. I was like, 10 years later. You finally guys, look back. Well, this has been amazing. I would love to keep the conversation going. WrestleMania just started. Yes. Yes. And Paige, I love you. We leave this open now for part two. Yes. I just am so proud of you. Thank you. And so happy for you. Welcome home. Thank you. Welcome home. Thank you so much. You are such a gift. And there is just something so special that shines in you. And people love you for it. And nobody ever wants to see that light then. Thank you so much. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] I just see the book box. For the first time. Yeah. For the more to come.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
A wrestler celebrates eight years of sobriety and reflects on a past period of personal struggles, including failed drug tests and a "loose cannon" reputation.
She describes her emotional return to WWE after a serious neck injury forced her retirement, missing major events like the Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber.
Her comeback was initiated unexpectedly during a friend’s podcast, where a conversation led to a call with WWE executive Nick, followed by medical clearances and a drug test.
She shares the importance of making fans feel valued, recalling a lesson from her father about how people remember the way you make them feel.
The discussion touches on social media negativity, the challenge of focusing on positive feedback over one negative comment, and adapting to younger generations' language and technology.
Summary:
In this heartfelt conversation, a WWE superstar opens up about her journey to eight years of sobriety, contrasting her current healthy state with a past marked by drug test failures and personal turmoil. She recounts the emotional process of returning to WWE after a neck injury forced her retirement, missing iconic events like the Royal Rumble. Her comeback was sparked spontaneously at a friend’s podcast, where a chance conversation led to a call with WWE executive Nick, followed by medical tests that cleared her neck and a clean drug test.
The wrestler emphasizes the importance of treating fans with respect, recalling a lesson from her father: people remember how you make them feel. She also discusses the challenges of social media, noting how one negative comment can overshadow hundreds of positive ones, and advises against engaging with trolls. The conversation touches on generational differences in language and technology, highlighting the constant evolution of communication.
Ultimately, this segment celebrates resilience, personal growth, and the powerful connection between performers and their audience.
FAQs
She was invited to a friend's podcast, met Brad Slayer there, and he asked if she wanted to come back. Within 30 minutes, Nick Khan agreed, and she had medical and drug tests cleared.
She had to pass a drug test and ensure her neck was healthy. After extensive medical checks, her neck was cleared, and she passed the drug test.
She was emotional and cried when her neck was cleared, as she had to retire earlier due to neck issues and missed major events. She was relieved and happy to be healthy.
He taught her that people remember how you make them feel, not just what you say or do. This lesson stuck with her from a UK tour experience.
Because one negative comment can crush her despite many positive ones. She learned to not care about opinions from people she wouldn't ask for advice.
As a child, a Spice Girl refused to sign an autograph for her, which hurt. Years later, she tweeted about it, and the Spice Girl apologized, acknowledging it was a bad moment.
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