Packing & Unpacking Never Ends

- One day he wears his socks for like a week at a time. - No, no. - I'm being curious, I have to figure him out. - There's nothing wrong with wearing socks a couple of days in a row. - Hey! - There's nothing wrong with that. - No! - Why is that crazy? - It is socks. They're not like underwear or like it's socks are underwear. That's like equivalent. - They don't wear feet. It's not like, no one's even seeing that. I don't know. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Hello, Namaste. Welcome to the Zarna Guard Family Podcast where all five guards are in the house. We're gonna talk about a topic that affects every single one of us. You're gonna have opinions. I promise you, you're gonna have experiences to share. Let's get into it packing for while we are traveling. Carry on, check luggage, laptops, battery packs, water bottles, water bottles. So much goes on, we travel for a living and it has been an eye-opening experience. Anybody who has a strong point of view would they wanna throw out that? - I have mine. - Have you considered shipping in the head of time? - To whom? - To where you're gonna be traveling to? - Like shipping a suit. - Shipping a bag? - No, because that would cost a lot of money. And would cost me more anxiety to keep track of whether my bag, what do I do if it doesn't make it? - That makes sense. - What were you gonna say? You were gonna say something? - I have a heart attack. I always travel with check luggage. I don't care if it's a day or two days or five days. This idea of stuffing everything into carry on suitcases which has led to people carrying literally people carry on as if they're like mules traveling between nations. - Yeah, that's a charging 75 bucks a bag. - Yeah, but you're traveling. You're presumably going somewhere for some experience. - But what if it's just a two hour flight or an hour and a half flight? Like from here to the aisle? - So to you, the cost of the bags is the main factor for your pocket. - No, I mean, I try to check in too because my cosmetics don't make it. - What do you mean by cosmetics? - I mean, toiletries, right? My shaving cream, my face cream, my- - But if I do a two hour flight, why do you need so much? Why don't you just buy the travel versions? - Because my stuff is European, right? - It's very expensive. You can't get it in travel versions. - You can't buy the things that- - No. - Yeah, traveling by Santa Maria Novella in travel version doesn't come. - No, but why can't you for those two days just use whatever is available? - But then my skin will suffer. For two days I should mortgage my skin. (laughs) Forage your skin. For two days of travel. - I feel like bridges- - Like literally, seriously, my audience won't even agree. They can take a portion. Should I mortgage my skin? - Hold on, hold on. - But what do you keep in your carry on that wouldn't just fit in a backpack? - No, it's not. I'm not- - Wait, let me set that up real quick. - Yeah. - Veer and I carry backpacks that are very full everywhere travel. We both don't carry a single carry on. We have one checked in luggage and one backpack. That's how we travel. In difference, my sister and my mom all have, they have one backflack slash purse thing than one carry on and one checked in luggage. And what Veer is asking, especially since we've seen you guys with your carry-ons have one thing in your carry on before. - Yes. - So we're always wondering why not just putting your bag? - No, well, do you want to take that or should I? - You got it. - One, my shoulder bag, like the backpack or like the shoulder bag is heavy. So I prefer to have a small carry on that's on the wheels and my shoulder bag fits on it so I can wheel it around. Like I've injured my shoulder over the years carrying very heavy backpacks, carrying diaper bags, the whole thing. I've done it and I don't think the price I paid for that was smart. Two, it is true that my carry on is usually like going to a place, but I like having the little extra space that if I should decide to shop either at the airport or at the location, I have a little extra space instead of trying to jam it all in into my check bag or my carry on bag. I prefer to have things neatly spread out in my bags multiple because I don't mind even checking two bags in. I want the experience when I land there to be the experience that I want, to be the experience that my audience work. You know, a lot of male comics only travel with carry on because they don't care if their clothes haven't been washed in days. They just don't care. That's their more pre-occupied. I'm not having verified that by 10 minutes. How do you know that? I work with them. I travel with them. I know how they're traveling. There's no check back. How? I doused another Jerry Seinfeld who's going from point A to point A to the way he rolls. I'm not traveled with Jerry Seinfeld, but there are about 1,000 other comics that travel that don't have Jerry Seinfeld's private jet or chauffeuring services. And what they are preoccupied with is how can I get in and out easily? Whereas my entire preoccupation is, how can I deliver the best experience I can for my audience when I'm there? I meet the audience myself. I hug them constantly. I want to smell great. I want to look great. It's an experience for them. So this is a real difference. Women have to need a lot more stuff too. That's just a fact. I'm not going to show up to show where people have paid ticket money and clothes that have been crumpled tightly in my check-line. - So, so then I will press it. Would you travel differently if you were not performing? No. - I so-- You have a trip coming up in the next several days. Where you're not performing. You're going for business meetings, right? Yeah, business meetings. - But they're business meetings. If it was just a pure vacation. Yes, it was pure vacation. No, because no. The answer is no. I'll tell you why. Because wherever I go, if the place is worth it for me to fly, I want to be fully invested in that experience and not be worried about what's going to happen with my check-bag getting in and out. I want my clothes there. I want my shoes there. I want some options for outfitting. If I have a business meeting in particular, I want multiple options. I don't know what the day is. Why are you so concerned with it? Can I ask something? And I want you to-- I think I'm wrong. I just want you to help me understand why I'm wrong. Which is, if I was going to say a comedian, whether it was Nikki Glager or Jerry Sinball, like male or female, and they showed up in dirty sweatpants and dirty sweatshirts on stage, they smelled that. And they like barely did their hair. So they're barely presentable, but they are somewhat presentable. And they deliver a fantastic one-hour set. I personally wouldn't care about the way they look, smell, or act, as long as the set is hilarious. Am I taking money, please? I wouldn't care. I wouldn't, though. So I'm asking you, am I in the minority of people? Yes, you're in the minority of people. Not only are you in the minority of people, I think you're overestimating how little you would care. Because the women, I don't know any serious woman comic who would do that. So you've never seen it. So you've been the ticket yourself, bridge. It's not your earned money. Once you've earned it yourself and spending it $70, $80 times two people and then snacks and drinks and all that, you might care. But I have spent my own money on myself and somebody else before to go to shows. Oh. Might like my ex-girlfriend, for example, where I spend my own money to take us to shows. And I just personally care a lot more about the quality of the product, rather than the, like, the aesthetic around it. Wait, when did she buy one of the tickets or you bought both tickets? No, I would buy both tickets. When you traveled with her, did you carry her stuff? Yeah, of course. I find that really great. Men should carry women stuff. How did that go? Because I love when men, when you are trying to reach to put a carry-on bag in the top compartment, will all of a sudden offer their help? And when a guy doesn't offer their help to a five-foot tall girl who is trying and suffering at putting a bag at the top, I find that disrespectful. I think gender norms should dictate that if there is a masculine, strong men around to help you put your stuff up, that is not an act against feminism, that is just generous and makes sense. I mean, this is not to say we don't know how to put our own bad terms, but we do everything ourselves. But we take note of the guys who are showing this. Yes, I do. I do think. We appreciate it very much. And to come back to Veer's point, he only paid for the tickets. You also paid for the food and snacks, anyway. Yeah, of course, yeah. You paid for all of it? I mean, so what did she do? They usually, again, I'm not going to say, I was not going to make a crazy, or I'll say, I'm paying for the quality of the product, so I'm paying for the relationship as well, for the quality of my girlfriend being a great girl. So she didn't offer anything? She didn't offer anything. She offered a free energy, a presence. Her presence? Yeah, that's the offering. Yeah. OK, this is not to be the topic, but that feels wrong. That's all-- It doesn't really go wrong to me. I don't want it. Why is that wrong? Who does it feel wrong? I mean, you just have your daughter just saying that some shiburus acts, can we-- No, I agree. I think he should cover the tickets. I think he should cover the bulk of it. But I think when the woman doesn't offer anything, I think that that's a lot. Maybe she did offer and he said no. Yeah, usually they offer. It's just convention. Like, they'll be like, oh, I'll get the snack, or I'll get the dessert. But did your ex-girlfriend offer anything? Yeah, she always did. OK. But that doesn't mean I accepted. I feel like she didn't, because when I first asked, you said no, but that's fine. I said no, because I was the one who ended up paying for it. But that doesn't mean people don't offer. I mean, there's many relationships like this where a woman asks or offers many times, but the man just says no, because they would like to pay for more. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I always sell Zoya, I always offer, even not in a romantic situation. Like, if I'm out with a bunch of dudes for a business meeting or something, I always offer something. I'm not just like, oh, thank you. And like, you're so lucky, you got me. Is it rude to bring your luggage to a restaurant? Yes. I mean, it happens. But you're ruining the aesthetic of the restaurant. And I feel like there's no scenario where you need to bring luggage for a restaurant. It happens. No, I've done it. It's going to be out. And you're just losing someone. - On the way out, what are you gonna do? - Yeah. - Explain that? So on your way out, you're doing a last meeting with someone in a, on your way out from where? From the room and you've checked out. - Oh. - In a hotel. - Not in a hotel. - In a hotel. - I'm saying that they're generally. - She's so gentle, bring luggage to fine dining restaurants on their way to the airport. - Yeah. - Oh. - Do you find that, is that acceptable? - Oh, again, what are you supposed to do? - I mean, I do it and feel really bad about it too. - But what is the option? Where would you leave it? - I mean, what I've done in the past is I paid Uber drivers to store my luggage while I do whatever meeting or dinner I have. I've done that before. - At this point, restaurants and tipping culture has become so unbelievably expensive that I am owed the ability to store luggage right next to me in my seat that's not bothering anybody. That's just how I feel nowadays. - Why are you so, what's happening? - Because I just so explain this. - Because first of all, and I had this whole conversation with mom earlier, but I'll tell it to you guys, food quality, specifically in New York City, but also around America, has become at an all-time low. Like, it is at an all-time low. I go to a restaurant every single one, no matter what I get, whether it's a steak, whether it's like a vegetable, whether it's whatever, I feel so bad later than I, because of that restaurant. And I'm feeling that way and much higher it's than I've ever felt in my life before. I'm not saying it was amazing before, but I'm saying it wasn't this bad. - But maybe you're getting older. - No. - No. - No, I mean, I'm 20. Like, it shouldn't be affecting me this bad. - As a bill is astronaut. - Even the bill is astronaut, like, it's in, and then the 20% tip on top of the bill. - Minimum. - Minimum. - It's now 20% minimum. Like, now the options are 20, 25, 30. - Or at least 22 and 25, you know. - Okay. - But I have a question that I'd like to unpack. - What? - Oh, wow, that was, that was good. - What, no one else noticed? I know that. - What do you use the word back? - Unpack. - Unpack, oh yeah. - Like that, you've asked the question. - That was a question, yeah. - Are you just not that far? - No, I was just excited for people to be, to entertain by my pun, but only viewer was amused. Okay, if you could only have five items to pack in your suitcase, you only get five. And you, there's no pre-qualifications for what your trip is. You just have five items. - 20 trees would be one item. - toiletries, isn't it? Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask the same question. - Okay, you can have toiletries, toiletries are one item, but specify what would be in your toiletries bags. You only get a few items. You're packing light. What are the necessities? For me, it's clean socks. If my socks are nasty and they've been worn, I will not wear them again. I need clean socks. I need the makeup removal towel, the skin towel. That's my favorite. I need a hair brush. What? - No, they, he wears his socks for like a week at a time. - No. - That's all right. - No. - I'm being curious. I have to figure him out. - Here's nothing wrong with wearing socks a couple of days a year old. And there's nothing wrong with that. - No. - Why is that crazy? It is socks. That's a equivalent. I don't know. - So you wear the same pair of socks for seven days? - Not seven days, but where am I seeing? The same pair of socks for two or three days. If I work out, I'll change my socks. Maybe I'll wear, take off my socks when I work out. - Maybe. - Next day I'll change them. Yeah, I mean, that's not the beginning. - You've seen them, do they? - If I, it's a bring five things to travel. - No one socks, they made two days in a row. - If you wear, if you buy anything in that, for any sort of occasion, and you include socks, you're crazy. Like, out of all the five things you can take your socks to. - You're not bringing your socks. - I'm going to repair socks. I'm pretty sure. - What are your five? - My five would be toiletries, which is one, but with the toiletries, I'll have my Hermes deodorant out of his Santa Maria cream. I just want to feel fresh. Wherever I am, the next morning. - You would be just as fresh, buying the cheap deodorant from the airplane. I just don't go there because it's sort of like an uneducated person talking to an educated person. It's really hard. The conversation is still on these things, you know? So let's not go there. But. - Wait, are we all uneducated, or is it just mom specifically? - She's saying in the regard of deodorant. - No, I know, but do you feel that way about all of us, or is VR in your camp? Because I know you think VR is in it. - VR is my camp, especially after I use the perfume and try to steal it and took it back. But yes. - Oh, no, that's so funny. (laughing) - You know, I tried to steal this really cool clone that he has on his shelf where he has five clones, maybe six, in fact. And there's this green bottle. And I deliberately left it in my bathroom, thinking he may not notice, 'cause there's so many others. But by the evening, when I come back and see, it's gone. Because he actually came into it. So he figured out it was missing. He figured out that if it is missing, there's only one person in this entire apartment who's keeping it here. And if he is taken it, he will leave it in his bathroom. And if he doesn't take it, it may get completely unsposed into other toiletries, so he took it back and left it in his, so yeah, so VR is definitely in my camp. And I think that the more I've introduced him to, you know, cosmetics and so on, he takes it like, fish takes to water, you know, so it's very, very natural. - Wait, you introduced me? I mean, some of these clones I've introduced you to, right? - You haven't introduced me to a single one. - I thought there's one of them that we bought together. - We bought them together. - Okay, one of your five things. - Okay, cosmetics is an important one. Because the next morning, I would always take a pair of running shorts. 'Cause, yeah. - Yes. - I love the idea of being able to run, and this is also take a pair of socks. I like taking, you know, a shirt and a pants, because you just never know what my mind is. - But this is way more than five. - Yeah. - What is happening? - No shirt pants. - And nobody may see fresh bed of underwear. - That's what I was thinking. I was waiting to see that. - I was thinking, I was fresh bed of underwear. - I mean, you need, you're not gonna, you can't do it. - Yeah, but then that is also part of the five. - But if I have five things, I don't know if that would be my five. - I would have, no. - Are you Leonardo? - Are you counting iPhones as part of your five? - No, no. - Oh my God. - Basically, we can't travel light. - Yeah. - Basically, five. - And I had travel light. There was a time I would travel just with the toothbrush. - Oh, that's crazy. - From Europe to New York. - In his back pocket, expose. - It's true. - True. - Did you wait there? - Yeah. - Wait, no. - Wait, no, I would say. - I guess we are as age. - With his passport. 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Hit that subscribe button. - Now that's in the episode. - I was gonna do a toothbrush company at Brentworth. This is true. What led me to that? Do you know what led me to wanting to do a disposable toothbrush company? I was doing a little bit of research of how people keep their mouth clean on the go 'cause you guys were doing a lot of travel sports. So I was like, oh, I wonder how the guys do it in like Wall Street offices. You know, because they are working like 12, 15 hour days. I'm sure they're brushing their teeth in between meetings and whatever. So I went to meet some of the colleagues that your dad was working with. And they all had a work toothbrush and a toothpaste. So how do you store it? How often do you change it? They're like, oh, we just throw it in the drawer. Wet. And I was like. - And why is that a problem? - How? - And how? - Where would you keep it otherwise? - Ew. - And how often do you change it? I kid you not. I had a guy say, I bought it when I started the job. It was nine years ago. That's when I knew that the. - And see, he's still confused why this is a problem. - I mean, I will say one thing that is a hack, [BLANK_AUDIO] is having lots of Ziploc bags in your luggage. - Ziploc bags do nothing. - What? - Literally. - Wait, you don't need Ziploc bags. They're useless. - Okay, what? - In the regard of packing. - Let's Ziploc bags are the holy grail of bags. - Yeah, you tell me what you're using for. - So I'm gonna talk about my Ziploc bags. I am not great at folding my clothes. I'm really not. But what I have found that has helped me on the road is having multiple big Ziploc bags. So any clothes that are dirty go in that Ziploc bag and also keeping your clean underwear and socks and everything compartmentalized, your outfit for this, your outfit for that, your belts in here, your makeup towels in here, it just gives me mental clarity 'cause I feel like luggage and unpacking. First of all, packing is nothing. Unpacking is the worst experience ever. - Both are easy. - No, I can't stand unpacking. I find it. - What is your favorite luggage? - Pawn, let me also say they make luggage with eight different compartments exactly for that reason. You have the top, you have the second top, what are you looking for? - No, no, no, no, no. - What are you looking for? Why would you ever unpack? - Wait, what? - He doesn't unpack. - Why would you unpack? Why don't you just keep it in your suitcase? - Why do you want your clothes? - Because otherwise, the crease gets creased. - You, you, you, you, like, let's say, okay, so I traveled to location. My suitcase is there, right? It has all my clothes in it. It's day one. I take out my pants, my shirt, for the day, my underwear, for the day, my socks, today. Okay, great. After that day's over, I put them aside, and then the next day starts, and I take out the new set, so I'm not unpacking. - My shirt's like my shirts and pants and jacket. If I leave them on a hanger, they won't get creased. By the time it comes to read, the next day, it'll be nicely, so you have to take it out so it doesn't get creased. - Okay, yeah. - But going back to my question, what's your favorite luggage company? - What? - Oh. - What's a luggage company? - I used to me, I bought it myself. It's not sponsored. I like it, it's easy to roll. I forget the company, what I look for is eight wheels. - Yeah. - Not for it. - You have to have eight wheels, double wheels on every bag, because I have had a bag fall apart on me. Why I was smiling? - I'm not. - I have had a bag. - I just want to raise my hand, and give a shout out to a German company called Remova. - Everyone knows that brand. - Remova? - I don't even count as European. - I love it, Dad. - You will be like, let me put you on or as, let me put you on. - By the way, my carry-on and my handbag is Remova too. Again, that's what I paid for it, but it is very smooth. It is smooth. - It's a German company. - So it's worth it. - They're doing, they're a huge design company. They think of themselves as a design company. And very sturdy, so you can keep banging it all year round. - I don't think you're supposed to keep banging it, but okay, they do bang it around. - It's the only European company I know that has done exceptionally well in luggage. He asked you the question, what's your favorite luggage brand? Just so he could say his favorite luggage brand. - Yeah, that's pretty obvious. You didn't sort of, you didn't sort of throw in a stibeson knowledge there. - I found out that's why I did it. Seriously, wait, come up with this little more intelligent, this thing. Push back. - Okay. I found out recently in my travel that in your carry-on bag, you know, you have your laptop in your carry-on bag, and IVFTSA pre-check. So we usually don't take the laptops out. But now, due to our business growing, I have to travel with multiple laptops, iPads, different things, do different functions. So I had three laptops and an iPad in my recent travels, and it flagged all kinds of security things, and they're like, you can only carry one, and you've got to take the other two out. I didn't know that was the thing. Did you know that was the thing? And battery packs? - I didn't know there was a limit to the number of laptops you can carry. - No, there's not. - Yes, there is. - There actually is. - No, you have to take them out. - You're thinking about it, yeah, yeah. - For TSA pre-check, you don't have one in some, okay? What, what? - I don't want you to be carrying something. - I don't want you to get through them together to create something out of it, right? - What am I going to create with TSA? - No, it's just that it interferes the signal to be able to see all the other stuff. - Yeah. - And why would a normal human, like, - My thing is that you always talk about your iPad. I've never seen you use it. - I've never seen you use it. - It's my emotional support iPad. - No, I have it as a backup of the backup, but it has all my private secret accounts on it. I rarely use it, it is true. - Ever. - What is your most commonly used electronic outside of your phone, of course? - Laptop. - Wired. - Wired. - Yeah, wired. - Oh, there it goes. - No, no, it puts on. - I might use my laptop. It's not crazy to say you might use your laptop when you're working and a day more than you use your iPhone. Because laptops are like the most powerful thing I've ever experienced in my life. And I'm just going to say, iPods, every time we travel, one of you loses something. Either one of the iPods or the case, or one of you, three. - Or what of you? - No, I don't use it. - Oh, you scream every day. - I don't. - Who's so my thing? Who's so my glasses? - No. - Who's so my computer? - Oh, it's right here. - No, no, no, no, hold on. Because you guys lose your iPods and then everybody goes running to my bag for the wired headphones. - That's what he never wants to happen. - Wait, I don't ask you guys a question. - That's the way I do that. - And any of you guys named the last time you remember me losing something permanently? - Now permanently is defined, defined permanently. - That I haven't found. - What do you mean by defined permanently? - By finding it's something that's always like saying that it's somewhere in the sun looking planning of the apartment, it's still losing it. - Okay, fine, yeah. Something that I cannot physically show you today. - iPods, it's a great example. - I have never lost a pair of iPods. - There's the last pair where you said that it's somewhere in the apartment. - I can show you there in my room right now. - Okay, Vir, you do care about your stuff. There's no question about that. - He's gone more on me when it comes to these kind of things, it's true. Especially his intellect and his organization and all of that. But still, I'm sure he's lost things. - I've lost one thing in my life. - What? - It was, it was this, remember? - Oh, but it fell. - I was like, I was like basketball. - The class of your dreams. - They do with me. David Germans, evil brand. But we will still take a sponsor. - You know what stresses me out? - I just lost the most things. - All right, I knew that was me everywhere. I was like, sitting here in one room. - I didn't bring it up, just so you remember. - I'm not, 'cause you also were out there on a role defending your dad especially. - I didn't bring that. - That was Vir. - No, but you also said you were. - You were defending your mom. - You were defending your son. - That's a quiet defense. - So Vir was essentially saying that he believes that you don't sleep a lot time during the day and you actually do spend a lot of your day working comparably to mom. - Well, that's comparably to mom. I said generally. And mom obviously crashed out on him and I was like, let's wonder if he's a wake right now. Let's see if he's awake right now. - No. - And then I was silent. And my silence was complicit in his firmong with Vir's day. - Your silence was definitely to me because I was eating. - Try sending me an email at any given hour of the 24 hours, not counting Saturday and Sunday, so Monday to Friday. And within, within tea plus, within tea plus 16 minutes of sending that email, he will get a response. - I didn't say anything. - You can pick that time. - Why did I be in the target for the end? - At 3 a.m., you can pick that time to be 2 p.m. - Second to me. - Or 4 a.m. - Just pick any time of the 25. - I'll do that. I don't believe you. I'm willing to call your bluff. I'm not bluffing. - I'm not bluffing. - That was money on it. - Just not Saturday and Sunday. - Oh. - Sunday and Sunday is his off. - Because markets are off. I'm not really looking at the market. - Oh, okay. Can I have the thing? - Wait. - It must also be off. - Okay. - The thing that really hurts me, we're going to take a brief pause to tell you about a sponsor for today's episode, quince.com. So luxury essentials made affordable, no one does it better than quince. And this summer, I spent my entire summer living in their lightweight cashmere cardigans. 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No, but like a construction worker will use his mind to do the construction but will also use his hands. But what do you mean then? I just told him I have a computer job. I don't require physical exertion. So what does it mean to have a, like do you understand what I'm saying? No. Explain it. Explain it. Like a doctor doesn't require physical exertion in his job. He's sitting on a desk, listen to a patient talk advising against it. Okay. So he's out of mind for that's a job. That's a mind job as far as I'm concerned. He's just using his mind and experience of having seen 10,000 years ago. I guess he's just wanting to call her versus blue collar. I think what he's saying is about the blue, just calling the job, say well, but don't require. Can I take a stab at it? I think a good analogy is like chess versus basketball versus chess there. That's a good example too. Yeah, there's no physical. It's a little bit old in mind. Oh, that's a good analogy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the way you say I have a mind job, it kind of feels like you have a smart people job and everybody else is kind of dumb. I'm not saying that. But that's what she's picking up on. - The job I do is gonna be the first one to be automated by a professional intelligence. So it's clearly not smart people job. It's just, it's like any other job that's professional in nature and only requires a human being to use their mind and experience of the mind to be able to commit to the job. - Well, I have a question. How often do you have the travel for your job? I'm just curious. - For about 20 years I used to travel five times a year. - Hmm. - Five times a year? - Okay. - So it's not that much, that's like, yeah, yeah. - It never requires, I certainly don't have to travel to do my job. - Okay. - Would it be a prolonged trip or you just go for a day for like a meeting? - For two nights at most, two nights at night. - What's new to me? Okay, that actually satisfied me completely. So, I'm now, I feel resolved about this. Do you see how direct communication can resolve things? That would make sense. - What kind of communication is that? - Direct. - Directly. - You know, not like passive. The way that you and mom passively seemed it. But why did you elude to it right now to instigate it? - No, I'm just pointing out a good example, a model of good behavior. - Maybe I should call it my job. I'm just saying professional, like white collar jobs. - Yeah. - I mean white collar jobs too. - It's what Elon Musk calls the laptop class. - Yeah, there you go. - Why do you have white collar jobs? - By the way, those laptop class jobs are the first to go away whenever a new innovation occurs. - Yes. - Okay. - I'm gonna connect it back in my bag. It's so many in my collection. - Can I say something that I was just about to bring it back to the topic and it's-- - Go ahead, yeah, yeah. - What I didn't realize when I graduated college is that many people choose their job and their professional work based on how much travel there is and there is not. A lot of people choose their job based on there's a lot of travel in this job and that's something I want in my way of life. And I didn't know that actually. Like I didn't think-- - On vice versa too. - Yeah. - Yeah, I didn't know that was something that people eagerly saw. Like a consulting job if he was working in McKinsey. - Yeah. - Starting out out of Stanford of college, there is going to be tons and tons of travel I imagine. - Yeah. - Right? But if you start a Google sex, there's going to be zero travel just longer hours. - I actually hate traveling just to the audience knows. I'm very, very much against traveling. I don't like it. I'm not somebody who goes to a nice location like Rome or other places to go view the monuments or anything. It's just not what I'm just not interested in seeing museums or beaches or like, I'm one of those people 'cause everyone in their mom when they get to college says, my favorite thing in the world to do is travel. I love seeing all these different things. It fulfills me. I'm so against that's one of my biggest hot takes is that I don't like traveling. But I have to do it because for work and specifically the entrepreneurship endeavor, traveling is probably like one of the most important things you could ever do in any entrepreneurial endeavor because you're constantly meeting new people. You have different work events in different cities. And at this age, because travel has become so easy for people, if you're not traveling, you're just so far behind. So it's kind of like that's one of the weaknesses I spend my most time doing. And as a result, when it comes to packing, I hate packing 'cause I hate traveling. But I find ways to make it easier for myself. - What are the ways that you make it easier? - There's a one more point on your mind versus the thing. I do believe that and people are gonna kill me when I'm about to say this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Compensation is the most fair and judicator of the importance of a job. - Oh. So you think that-- - Yeah, a surgeon who for doing literally one and a half minutes of an aesthetic shot, like to a pregnant woman, right? Your mom got it once, I think, with one of the kids, for sure. But Anastasia that comes in and gives the epidurial and goes out, it's literally one minute. And for that one shot, he gets paid $11,000, right? And you could say that's so much money for that one shot, right? Examples of that kind of, like, all over the place. A typical hedge fund manager for one successful trade is taking home 20% of fees, right? And that is the, so I'm in, and your mother is a great example. The amount of money she's making per unit of joke is probably 10 times more than the top quarter of comedians in America today, right? - 100 times, but yeah. - So I'm saying that compensation is the only true, accurate and judicator. - So like the ratio of time to money-- - No, honestly, what is compensation? - So even if it takes longer time, the what you're getting paid to do what you're doing is the final and the most appropriate-- - The market decides. - The market decision. - The market is telling you how-- - There's literally nobody who will write to your check unless they really have to. - So I guess the one first of all, I think it's a fascinating point. I guess the one question is then do you believe the markets are blind? Like they will just say this deserves the money, this doesn't deserve the money, and it's an extent. - They're fairly blind to everyone. - Yeah, they are blind, but they're fairly blind to everyone. So it's not the case that this person has it more fair than you have it or I have it over a course of time. And in America, in particular, which is why your mother and I left Europe, right? We did, I mean, I say so many good things about Europe, maybe I should say one negative thing about Europe as well. (laughing) In Europe, and this may have changed, I'm drawing upon-- - Just as we are about to go to Europe, right in time, go for it. - But in Europe, these are very homogeneous societies, right? So in a very homogeneous, and I'm taking the UK, London out of it, 'cause that's more like New York, but mainland Europe, which includes Germany and Sweden, and so is in all these countries, it's a very homogeneous society. So that fairness of compensation will not be there. Here in America though, it truly is the ultimate arbiter. And money will follow a successful person, and a person who claims he's successful and has no money to show for it, is just missing the point. - I think what you're saying is, it's not about the amount of hours you put in, it's about the importance of the hours that you are putting in. - Or what the product was. So you know how the Steve Jobs used to say about the 10,000 hours? That it takes 10,000 hours of doing the same thing again, and again, and again, to be honest. - Do that what you would do, sir. - She now gets things done at us, and she's only done it for a couple of years, right? Three years, four years maybe. And she gets these things done with a speed that is uncanny. So she will obviously command, I mean, she has a horrible boss, but she had a nice boss. She would command a higher compensation for what she does. But you would get my point. - That's interesting. - No, I think it's a really interesting point. - Okay, wait, I wanna go back to your point. You said that you have hacks that help you travel, even though you find it miserable to travel. What are your thoughts? - There's more after him. - Yeah, I wanna know you. - Firstly, I'm a very speed packer. I'm not somebody who folds my clothes every single time before putting in the luggage. I don't find like all the little different, like things to isolate different bags and everything to make sure everything is perfect. Because I don't like to do it, I have to cut corners and able to get myself to push through and go to these places. And that includes just throwing my clothes in the bag and then try to get it out when I can and then make it look nice or whatever I can. Often I'll show this to clothes by clothes will be slightly, because mom just let me show it to clothes with like anything too wrinkly. It's not really wrinkled to be honest with you, but I have almost went to because I wore a button down shirt that was very wrinkled and she didn't let me go on with it. So I had to change it because she doesn't believe in that, which is fair, I also don't believe in it. But because of these things that happen, because I just do not like going to locations, like I have no interest in going to Miami Rome, like any of these places. - Why do you keep bringing up Rome? It is upsetting to me because everybody knows I loved my trip to Rome. - Well, it's not about you, it's about Rome is like the pinnacle of human, like anybody where to say, what's the most beautiful human location? - That's not true, that's not true. - What else would be there? - Angelina, you pick Paris. - Be Paris. - Paris, Rome. - No, Rome is not. Rome is an academic trip. Okay, regardless. - So besides for just throwing things, hopefully clean things in your bag, at least as everything clean. - Yeah, everything's clean, yeah. - And then you pick it out and you iron it when you get there. - Yeah, of course. - Bridge? - That's a logic on that. - Don't put your shoes in your bag loosely. - Yes. - Oh, then what's a zip lock bag? What are you? - It doesn't have to be a zip lock. You can really put any bag, just a recycled, reusable bag. - That's right. - What's the problem with putting it loosely? 'Cause then the dirt from the bottom of your shoe gets all of your clothes and you're the dust and whatnot. - And so, what's the big deal? - No, but you are like, my clothes can't be crazed, but you're fine with your shoes. - Yeah, how are you fine with that? - You're, I mean, it's pretty good on the side. - Then put the shirt and the jacket on the other side. - That's three to do space between them and that's about it. - Yeah, what I wanted to say is that travel and, this is a little bit different from packing, I guess, but travel in general has made it so that literally 90% of society is the exact same person that just looks different when it comes to traveling. Everybody wants to go to the same locations. Everybody wants the same aesthetic photo. Literally, you look at people's Instagrams nowadays. They look at all the exact same. It's all an aesthetic photo at some blackout party and then something of just food. I just, it's unbearable. And I think that. - How can it be unbearable at 14,000? You haven't even, like, I don't, I don't know. (laughing) I hate, like, just, whatever. - No, I loved that. That was great. - Yeah. But what I'm just trying to say is that if you think you're so cool for traveling and taking aesthetic photos, try and switch it up, you know, invest yourself in what you really do believe is fun and think is cool rather than trying to fit in with society. But my actual point on packing is that I think that you should pack with no variety. - I want to go to a national park for travel. I just want to go. - Then you will not last one minute. - I want to go to a national park. - I'm the best coast. - Okay. Are you just gonna, I don't, are you gonna ignore my point? - Okay. - The point was exactly supportive of you that that will not be shiny and glossy pictures. It'll be pictures of a mountain with me sitting in front of the mountain. - No. - You didn't hear the second part of it. - Yeah. - You just come, you decided to stop listening. - What if you decided you had a problem? - What doesn't mean to not, to pack with no variety. - What I mean is that if you're not listening, If you're there for three days, you pack three outfits and no more, no less. Oh, so you prepare your outfits ahead of time? Prepare, you look at the weather, you look at how hot and how warm it's going to be. If it's going to be raining, you chronicle what you're going to be doing that day, and then you pack an outfit based on that and that's it. You don't pack an extra shirt and extra pants for just in case you literally just pack that and that's it so that you have only what you need and that your suitcase isn't overly heavy or overly stuffed. I actually agree with that, my life when I pack according to the outfits that I'm going to wear and maybe one extra outfit is so much easier. I find it so liberating, the one or two times I get to go to the airport with just a carry-on bag. When that has happened, I feel like an explorer. I feel so-- So would you back like that for your upcoming non-business? Yes. It is business, but non-performance-related trip? Well, do you have any other tips that you wanted to share? No, that was the main one. I also wanted to say that traveling alone is infinitely times easier than traveling with a family. You traveled a lot. You're 14. What was it like traveling alone at such a young age? It's so-- well, first of all, mom had to make sure that there was obviously like an adult with me. But it does make sense, like at this point, we're too far into our business to risk that, but like I felt for most part what it is to be traveling alone and it's just so much easier. Were you nervous? No, not at all. I was nervous the first time I went alone. For good reasons. I'm not hating on it. I'm saying for good reasons, it is very stressful to travel with mom. It is very stressful to travel with mom. For good reasons. It's for good reasons. I've already promised and I said that. It's just stressful because I'm very stressed out about-- Is that what's troubling with dad? Well, I don't even know if I'm ever traveling alone. Yeah. We didn't do anything. No one tripped like eight years ago, but it is very stressful traveling with mom because she, again, for really good reasons is very particular about every little thing, which you have to be. But it can be very stressful because every time she says something, I'm very scared that it's going to be some sort of thing that either I forgot or I need to go run and do it or something happened. So it's very stressful. And when you're alone, that stress is free because it's just you and your thoughts. So it is a little bit easier. Just one public service message. Airport shopping should be avoided. It's four or five times the price of the same thing. That's not you. There's duty free at the airport. Duty free is only for alcohol, that word. No. There was no duty, there was no tax, it was great. I mean, I had space in my car. What is no duty? Is that no tax? Yeah, there's no tax. Oh. Because it's in natural zones. I am very excited because mom and I are going on vacation, which is the first time we've gone on vacation in one, two, three, four, maybe my whole life. And we are going for seven days. We're going to London for six. We're going to Spain for one. We're going to Spain to be a very exciting friend. Our vacation is centered around meeting really cool people doing really cool things. So that's why we decided to go because in New York and LA when we're traveling for work, there's no time to explore new ideas. So this week we're committing to exploring new ideas with new, possible collaborators and just take it out. I wanted to go back to bridge saying he hates to travel. I used to be a person. You didn't say that. No, you didn't say that. He didn't say that. I hate to travel with you. No, no, no. You just hate it as a concept. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, can I finish my vacation? Why is so an edge? Because I knew you were going to say something and I was like scared now. See, this is how I feel in the airports are there. I'm scared. I said nothing. Why is he on edge? This is an image. Wait, I want to finish my point. I think when you label something a vacation, it's instantly more exciting because ever since we've been calling it a vacation, which it is a vacation. Nice to touch a vacation. Really? Doesn't make it exciting. You just said you can label something a vacation and make it exciting. No, I just, I think the whole premise of a vacation is that it's a thing to look forward to that is in some way an escape of your current day-to-day life, right? It's a uniquely different thing than whatever you're experiencing today, and so I'm looking forward to it. I don't like to go ahead. I totally agree with that. I agree with what you're saying. And then technically according to that, what we do when we do shows like yesterday we were in Baltimore, that would also technically be a vacation. No, that was not a vacation. But that is a switch up from our day-to-day life. No. It's actually part of it. That's part of, to me and our, to me, okay, to me the distinction is our live shows. We are getting paid to complete a job, even though our job is extremely unique, and that it's a very, it's a job to entertain people and make them feel welcome. And to put on an amazing live show. And since we've been doing that every weekend and are so lucky to do that every weekend, this, which is me and mom traveling for a different purpose is actually distinctly different. Anyways, mom, you can go ahead. You're sitting here, you're going to be in London, right? London and Spain. I wanted to talk about Bridge when he mentioned I hate to travel, not with mom, but just hate to travel. I was a person who notoriously hated to travel when you guys were little. Really? It was, first of all, traveling with kids is just different. You guys think it's hard traveling with me. Do you know how many years I traveled with you guys? A car seat. A shoulder. A diaper bag. I mean, I just gave up. At one point, I was like, I'm going nowhere. I don't care what the world has to offer and what. But now, as an entrepreneur, I, the thing that has liberated me from all the anxiety and angst that comes with travel that is inevitable. The flight will get delayed and canceled. There will be rain. The hotel will mess up. It happens all the time. But what has liberated me is that I know how to work through all of it. So I don't lose any productive hours, minutes or seconds even. I just keep working. I keep a cool head. I know what's going to happen. And that has changed how I travel because part of the reason we get frustrated when things go wrong when you're traveling is that you're like, but now I'm wasting my time sitting there but do not waste that time just keep working, we're all working on our laptops anyway. Most of it. It's actually such a good point. Just keep working through it. And now you're like, you're a lot more relaxed, wherever you are. It's only fun. And I truly believe now as an entrepreneur that luck needs to find you moving. I sure agree. luck is not going to come looking for you in your house or in your office. You need to hurl yourself out there into the universe. Take people everywhere you go, meet, talk to everybody you can, even if just for two minutes, you never know who's out there. So many opportunities in our life have come about because we were sitting next to somebody who was doing something cool. And even if it was not that person, that person then connected you. The more you put into your destiny, the more you're going to get out of it. I truly believe it. And that's part of why I'm teaching you guys to travel on the go. You're being attached to your home and your health, maxing lifestyle where you get up at a certain time and you have a class that you're addicted to because it's so all that is good and fine. It's now going to make you successful. It's just not. Success is in the discomfort. Success is in plowing through the discomfort. It's in learning how to navigate it. It's learning how to keep your head cool through it because every other successful person is out there in that arena fighting that fight. One of my favorite stories from your book was when you were early into building your company and you had written this screenplay. You booked a flight to L.A. Which at the time was a very expensive thing to do. There was supposedly a screenwriting festival of some kind where there was going to be an Indian producer who was a good friend of ours. No, no, no. Hold on. I didn't know that was going to be an Indian, but I didn't know anybody. I had just written a screenplay by myself in my own bedroom and bought a subscription to Variety magazine because it appeared to be a film trade magazine. So I was like, maybe in this magazine, there are some clues on who buys these screenplays and how to do. I didn't know anything. I used to read it thinking, okay, is somebody going to advertise that looking for screenwriter like, how do you break into this? I didn't find any of those ads, but what I did find was an ad for a variety magazine, inclusion, diversity, something event that looked like they were looking for new voices. Even though I had no idea what it was. I got a ticket to buy that event. The event was expensive. It was like at the four seasons hotel in L.A. which was crazy. It was so expensive, but I remember sitting in New York and thinking, if I want to be in the movie business and I want to sell the script, I've got to go there and try to meet somebody. So, I bought this ticket not knowing anybody, not knowing what any of these events are. I was one of the handful, if not the only single person there by myself. Because when I went there, I found that all the tables were like, this studio, that studio, this movie company, that streaming company, I was by myself, I didn't know anybody. But that event had released a list of attendees the night before. And I went through the entire list and I emailed every single person on that list. It was like 200, 300 people. And there was one Indian sounding name. I didn't know who this guy was. There was one Indian sounding name and that was my first email, obviously. And then he emailed me back. He was one of the two or three people who emailed me back. Nobody else emailed me back. And he was like, sure, I'll meet you. So the whole event I find, I was hunting for this guy, like where is this guy? And that became the first friend I made in the movie business. But it would not have ever happened if I was sitting in New York thinking, well, they'll come find me. Lot of smart people make this list. state, they think they're so smart, their product or service is so good that the world will come and find them. That is not going to happen. I don't care if you're Einstein and inventing the new light bulb. Did he invent the light bulb? No, it's gravity. No gravity. No, it's oh my goodness. I thought, instead of inventing the light bulb. Nobody inventing the light bulb. He didn't invent the light bulb. Okay, whoever invented the light bulb. If you're inventing the new light bulb, it's Newton. No, Thomas Edison. Well, it's disputed, but yeah. Whatever it is that you're inventing, if you cannot sell it, if you are, no, I'm not going to do it. The world will find me. The world will find my amazing chicken sandwich or my organizing skills or what it's not. Throw yourself out the people and just embrace the chaos. Travel. Now I'm like, the flight is late. No worries. I've got my laptop, I've got my iPad, I've got my backup iPad that I had to take out for TSA, but it's there and it's fully charged. But this since being a packing episode, I will say let's round up this episode with the top three packing tips. Each person, top three packing tips. I'm ready to go if you want. Go ahead. My top three is one always have a checklist, but try your best to fly direct. Try your best. I always have check luggage. I absolutely will do anything. I will pay any money to not do a stopover because once you have a stop involved, the probability that your bag doesn't make it becomes very high and that makes me nervous too. To pack all your expensive essentials in your carry on. So if I'm carrying a nice bag or if I'm carrying a very expensive sweater or whatever, that's in my carry on. So even if my check bag gets lost, it happens and like you'll live with it. And three and most important have one bag of toiletries that will make you feel comfortable no matter where you are. In my toiletries, I have a toothbrush, I have a toothpaste, a deodorant, a little perfume, a little thing of perfume, and I even care a spare change of underwear in my handbag always. Because if anything happens, I want to just feel refreshed so I can like deal with it with comfort. Mine are make sure to download the latest Netflix and the Prime video. Because you know the flight will get long and they never work, the Wi-Fi never works, properly the whole flight. So if you haven't downloaded it, you can watch it. What have you recently been watching? I'm really into Asian romcoms, Asian romcoms. I've watched first love, which is a Japanese drama and I've watched. I thought you were in Korea. We've moved to Japan. You know, some of the Japanese ones are very good. I mean, I don't differentiate so much between Korea, Japan and China. So Asian, Asian Romantic. Then I watched the three-body problem, which is a Chinese alien versus human fight show, which is very awesome as well. But yeah, so make sure to download those things. The second, don't under pack. If you don't, you end up using some of the things who cares. But it's important to have enough so that, you know, and unexpected something shows up. You have enough clothes for it. I used to under pack and it's not a great idea. It's always better to pack a little extra. And third, just make sure to carry your charger in your prop pocket as opposed to your handbag if you have one. I don't like carrying handbags. You just put it loose in your pocket. I just put it loose in my pocket. So make sure to carry it because, you know, you will need that the most. I have my third. My third first one, keep a portable charger on you. The one that, if you have a newer phone, you just stick it on the back or you can have the one that hangs from the bottom inside of the plug. My second one is digital boarding passes. A lot of people are still using the receipt papery boarding pass. If you like it, you can keep using it. But a lot of airports have scanners that make it a lot easier because you just bring your phone with you and you pull it out and do the Apple Pay, whatever, and you scan it. And then my third one is bring noise canceling headphones so that you can first listen to music whenever you want to and second of all when you're about to sleep on the flight. You should always try to sleep on your flights because you should always try to max what time you do have to sleep. You could just use the headphones. You don't even need music but you keep both in just and noise cancel. You don't have to bring an extra pair of ear plugs to worry about and then have a sleep mask on the flight as well. Aside from the zip locks, I think you should bring one amazing toiletry that you're excited about. I find sometimes on the road a luxury body cream really does it for me because it makes me feel really refreshed and clean and taken care of and almost like I have home on the way. A beanie? I find a beanie, a really soft beanie to be much easier to fall asleep in than a sleep mask. So I often steal mom's really nice beanie. I'm attributing this skill to you but I find it really helpful and protective measure cash. I keep a lot of cash on me. Again, this is another skill I've learned from mom, especially if you're a woman on the road. I think cash to be able to tip people like if you need help carrying your bags and carrying your stuff. If you tip somebody who's working at the airport, they will help you. So I always carry a lot of cash on me for somebody who needs to unload my stuff. No, you don't need to rely on people to do it for you for free. Just pay somebody to help you do a good job and they will do it. So lots of cash to now. Honestly, I don't really have great packing advice. I'm not good at it myself. But I would say one thing that can be really helpful is travel people you like to have a lot of fun with because when you're really cranky and it's really early mornings or really late nights and you can have fun, you can play games or do things you like. It makes it a lot more of an enjoyable experience. Who is the most fun? The most fun? Because you have three people that travel with you every weekend. I would always say beer because you play the most games together. What's your favorite game? Imposter. It's this game where you get a word and a one person gets a word this is imposter and you have to try to figure out who the person got the fake word. Bridge, but we do so much work on the go. That's true. I work a lot on air. You don't enjoy traveling with me to do the work. No, I do. Why did I say I don't enjoy you? Because I'm just saying that. Are you sad and cheesy? No, I just think that you have the most fun when we are working. That's true. You can't tell him how he has fun. He answered the way he answered. I see it, but we're like, I know. I know. I do great with bugs at times. Wait, we have one more segment before I give you these cards. What? We have a new segment that we're adding to podcasts where we're going over some audience questions that were submitted to us last podcast episode. If you want to submit questions for the next episode to get covered about today's topic or whatever else, text your question and your name to the number 855-608-1717. It works fully internationally and wherever you are. If you text your name and a question you have, we will, you have a chance to be getting your question read over the next podcast episode. I message and WhatsApp. Yeah, and it works internationally now. Yeah, works everywhere. On leash asked, one piece of advice your parents gave you that you used to roll your eyes at, but realize what's completely correct or any advice that they still give you and you cannot get yourself to follow. Hmm, ask a good question. This was for you guys too. No, but I mean, you want to answer it more easily because like, you know, I don't want to influence people. What do you want us to say? To say what a what advice have I given you? I mean, one thing I always say is go early to the airport that you guys always roll your eyes. I'm kind of like no loser. I'll understand that one. You do? Yeah. Who doesn't understand that? You don't want your flight to get delayed and you know what? Dad calls me out often because we're going to attribute most to your advice, but dad calls me out often when I swear and that it is unbecoming and it's something that I can't follow because I have so many reasons to swear, but I really am trying to adopt and every single time I swear, I think of you saying that in my head. You know, partly to be honest, it's just because you're way sophisticated with your language. And I appreciate that. I'm just saying that it's something that's more than what you're the most sophisticated with the language, right? Well, no, now that vocab with fear is. Yeah, but still, I mean, you're like, you're a Latin guy. He's also going to be a Latin kid, so. I would say one thing my mom always told me growing up that I never understood until literally like two weeks ago was to eat a lot of asparagus with your meals. I never understood why she always tried to get me to eat asparagus. I hated asparagus. It's like annoying green like stem. Why would anyone eat it? But recently as I was like focusing on my diet and learning for foods that work well to pair with other foods to keep you full, but also not hurt your digestive system or help too much, asparagus turns out to be like one of the best options you could ever pair with a food and a match is really well. So now as an adult, I realize eating asparagus is a really good idea. I love that. That's so specific. It's great. Yeah, I guess mine would be like when you always need to look presentable, so like don't be stingy when you're buying clothes. I always, I still do roll my eyes at that. But I mean, you were kind of born with, I don't even know if she needed advice for that. No, mom is definitely. No, but like when we're at malls and she'll always make sure that like if I'm hesitating, she'll pull the trigger on like an article of clothing, because you always do need to look presentable and every time it's worked, I still will roll my, I still do and will roll my eyes in the future. So I'm just letting you know, but it is, it definitely has worked out. Like it just, it makes sense, especially in the, in the line of business that we're in. So if you guys want your question, possibly read next episode, feel free to text or what's out the number 8556081717, the question that you want to get answered. In your name. And as we end every episode with a round of good grades with Garg Soto, we are going to end this episode. with a round of good grades with guards, where each guard gives another guard an A grade for the winning moment of the episode who wants to go first. - I'm gonna give my A grade split between mom and dad. I thought dad had a fantastic point about how money is like, that is what points towards the value of whatever product you're creating, or whatever value you're creating. I was really, I didn't think of it that way, but I think it's a really good way of viewing like the importance of some task. And then mom, you had a great point. I can't remember the exact one, but it's near the end about how I can't remember honestly. - I think you're just giving it to me 'cause you know you were mean to me earlier. - No, no, no, I remember, I said, there'll be a moment in the episode, go back if you didn't hear where I said, that's a good point. And that was in front of the mom's point. I just can't remember it, I'll stop by it. - I'm gonna give mine to Zoya for acknowledging her swearing, and the effort she's making to control her health is pretty funny. - I'm gonna give my A grade to dad. I thought that he had that one really good monologue that I think it's the one that you gave your A grade for as well. And then my second reason is that mom was saying, something that I could see how you could take offense to, and you kept your cool really well. And I noticed that. - What? - You were saying how, like you have to be moving. And dad's job is obviously one where he's not traveling that much. And it was, it's like. - But he doesn't have to travel to trade. He just needs to be. - It's interesting, but I did feel offended. I just kept them out. - Yeah, I'm saying, good job keeping yourself up. - It's unbelievable how perceptive you are, but it's unbelievable. - But I didn't mean to offend him. - I did feel it, but you did. - Even if you didn't, it just, I think I can understand why he could feel offended. Okay, anyways. - Wait, that was amazing. - That was really amazing, really. - Like I did, I considered in fact, and then decided against it to voice what I felt about that comment. - Yeah, I think you could be resolved here. - Okay, but yeah, yeah. Let's keep the moving. I'm sorry, I said he was about to get offended. I'm just gonna defend myself for a second. Has it or has it not been more useful for you when you're out and about meeting people? - Be honest, be honest right now with the podcast episode people and tell them, is it or is it not inspiring for you to see me how much I throw myself out there? As an entrepreneur yourself, - So they're two parts to your question, right? - Yeah. - One part has to do with me and one part the pride and feel in your effort. - Forget the pride in my effort. - Because the second part of course is true. - Now forget that. Is it inspiring for you when you are building your business to see how hard I've worked to build my business and actually put myself in uncomfortable situation? - No. - You'd seek no inspiration from it. - They're too completely entirely different. - So the meetings that you are doing with people and all you do-- - They're designed very differently, they're done very differently, they're very extremely, just very different businesses. I just don't know how I'll succeed. - So none of those feelings have come from this idea that you don't see me meeting people and thinking, oh, maybe meeting people in my business will help me build, as you build business is not only building, but it's growing. You're saying I have nothing to do with any of them. - That is hard. - I just want to say also that I didn't-- - That has nothing to do with the second point you made, the pride in your accomplishments. - No, that's fine, I got it. - I want to say I didn't mean to downplay anything you do and I'm grateful for the learning experiences. I just wanted to-- - I mean, it's just ironic that the woman who's out there inspiring the entire world, there's literally thousands and thousands of people getting out of their homes, getting out of their offices and working because they see my life and they see me here. - They're just two different businesses, they just know-- - It's not a business building, it's the same. You recently went for a meeting at 9 p.m. with somebody for drinks or something, you would never have done in the past. You're telling me that it had nothing to do with the fact that you see us all out there fighting to get business every day. - You're telling me-- - How do I answer that in a way that will be satisfying to me? - No, it's okay, I get, no, I accepted your answer. - Well, you'll be so happy to know, and this was a predetermined A grade prior to this little moment. My A grade is going to mom because traveling is notoriously inconsistent, but she has created so many systems to make it as consistent as humanly possible in each state and country that we're in. For example, we have the same team members that show up every single time and is making sure that they're satisfied and ready to go on the road. She has different people picking us up and has that priorly arranged before we arrive. Anything that she could do to make the little things easier on the road, she does. And I definitely take a lot of lessons in the way that you, I'm even gonna mention this, but we just got back from shows in a city where we were at a club, where things were very out of control, we couldn't control a lot of things that were happening. We made sure the show was amazing, but ticketing and things like that that aren't usually in our control were not handled to the best they could be. There were long lines and instead of just letting people wait and instead of not really paying attention to what was happening, she decided to cover 20% of every single bill in the audience of 350 people. And when she announced that on stage, people didn't really know what that really meant, but that was a direct pay cut from her shows compensation. And I learned a lot from that. - Why didn't the people understand that? - Because they assumed that the venue was giving it. - It's just hard to understand or appreciate actually what that meant, but it was really actually a 10% pay cut. - Yeah. - It also- - 20% pay cut, she came up all week. - To a single person, she was paying for 350 people's bills. And to you, it's only, obviously, only like 15 bucks or 20, 30 dollars. - You just don't understand it. It's just hard to understand. I understand the magnitude of that because I'm going through the piano every weekend of what is happening and what's happening with our business. But I just, I so admire that you did that. And I'll never forget that you did. - You have to be dried by your audience. They're spending a lot of money. And we respect that and I've taught you guys all to respect. And but that includes packing enough proper clothes, showing up on stage, presentable, being extremely groomed and hygiene and all of that. And anyway, coming back to A grade, I will give my A grade on this one to Veer because he's only 14, but he takes full control of packing his jokes. Everything is neatly organized. He has thought it through from beginning to end. Does not require any, really, any shepherding at all on this topic and I appreciate it. Because I'm constantly looking out and making sure everybody's everything is done. So I appreciate it. - He is the best packer. - But this has been our episode on packing, unpacking, traveling and so many other things as we veer into other topics. Please, if you like our podcast, if you enjoy it, like, share, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. We are desperately trying to grow our account. If you like what we're doing, please subscribe to our channels. That doesn't cost you anything, but supports us in a very big way. It actually is a very real support. We are learning. 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