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Package With The Stars: Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026

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Package With The Stars: Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026

The hosts of The Toast reflect on a wide range of cultural and personal topics, beginning with a humorous critique of the high cost of a premium pedicure, which leads into a deeper discussion about how media content—especially viral clips—is often misinterpreted without context. They express concern that clips from their show, such as the one about Derek Huff, are being taken out of context and amplified by AI-generated content, fueling misunderstandings and online hostility. The conversation extends to personal milestones, including Jackson’s postpartum wedding ring resizing and reflections on body image. They then pivot to music news, analyzing Taylor Swift’s new album rollout, which fans find confusing and underwhelming despite its commercial success, and contrast it with Ella Langley’s record-breaking No. 1 hit. The episode also touches on celebrity sightings, such as Meghan Markle’s recent outing with Ellen DeGeneres, and a commentary on fashion, where Kim Kardashian’s new styling under Law Roach is seen as a refreshing shift from past high-profile, trend-driven appearances. The hosts emphasize that behind the viral headlines and flashy moments lies a deeper layer of context, humor, and personal truth that only those who engage with the full show can appreciate. Throughout, the tone remains lighthearted, critical, and reflective, balancing personal stories with cultural observations.

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♪ Good morning girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast, and happy Wednesday, it is hump day! Don't forget to hump someone you love, and speaking of somebody I love, I'm joined by my co-host, my business partner, and best friend, Jacqueline Vallée! Hey, how y'all doing? I am doing overwhelmed. Don't you feel like we have so much to talk about today? Like, obviously Dancing with the Stars, obviously Taylor's new album. We didn't get to do Dear Toasters yesterday because it was the first episode back after a long weekend, so we pushed it to today, so we also have Dear Toasters today. It's kind of giving we should push it to tomorrow, but we won't. No, no, no, no. I'm actually glad that we have Toasters today because. I'm glad we have Toasters every day. We have Dancing with the Stars, and we have Taylor's new album, and like, that's kind of all we have. And you know what? That's kind of all I need, you know? Yeah, yeah. No, but I think it's gonna be like a slow three stories today, maybe. Then let me drop some tea in the PFFB, okay? Please do. That's what I was gonna say. Now, I know everybody's sick of me being cardboard, and I'm gonna tell you guys something, and I'll preface by saying, like, I know I can afford it, yada yada, but I just, like, think conceptually what I paid for a pedicure yesterday is insane. And I guess I never noticed because I never get just a pedicure. Right. I always go manicure pedicure, but I didn't get a manicure. And then you get a little massage, and the bill racks up, but you're like, I got a lot of services, so it costs money. And I wanted to relax yesterday on my phone, so I said, you know, let's get a pedicure. And, you know, my toenails were starting to scratch my comforter. You know that feeling? Yeah. I got a dazzle dry pedicure. What do you think that should cost? $80. Oh, my God, you're fucking crazy. $80. I'm fucking crying. Well, you just sort of, like, took the wind from underneath my story because it was $49, and I was like, $50 for a pedicure? Okay, $50 for a pedicure and dazzle dry. So that's, like, between. You do get a little. That's closer to gel. You know, you're paying for more. It's not closer to gel. You're paying for a more premium polish. So $50 for a pedicure in New York City in 2026. Claudia, I really don't know how it gets better than that. I guess, like, and conceptually, I do feel that pedicures aren't undervalued service because, like, this person's touching your nasty ass foot. Like, and I have nice feet, like, relative to what I see at the salon. So I think that they've always been undercharging. But, you know, I grew up where, you know, a manicure costs. $10, sometimes $8. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was like, should we go to the place that's an $8 manicure or $11? And you know what? The times have changed. And I'm glad for the pedicures because that is a service that we should honestly all be paying $200 for. Like, you don't have to pay me $200 to touch your feet. Like. Yeah. So I was just shocked that I got, like, one service. I guess I never get one service. So I really saw it all itemized out. And now I'm feeling like I shouldn't have shared the story because you said $80. No, but I think that speaks to really, like, the cardboard nature because. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cardboarding too close to the sun. Well, one thing about me is I do not cardboard when it comes to tipping at the nail salon. I'm like, I'm literally a Rockefeller. Yeah. I'm going 50, 60%. She's not going to. She's not going to accept those cheap allegations. I won't. I won't. Because the thing about cardboard is that it's not cheapness because I don't. I'm not stingy. Like, I won't not pay for it. I'm just going to complain about it. You know, it's more. It's more of a conceptual cheapness than a practical cheapness. I understand. Sure. And then the second T in the PFFB. Was that the T? I wanted to drop. Yeah. Ooh. Oh, really? I felt like we had such a great time. We had, like, the whole $80 joke. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're welcome for contributing to the podcast in a meaningful way. The second piece of T is actually T, though. I feel that, like, something is sort of, like, you know, we talk on the show. We have a bubble, you know? People listen. I feel like something has sort of, like, transcended the bubble. Yes. And I'd like to discuss it. I would like to discuss it as well, and especially watching dance. Like, with the stars last night, like, my experience was kind of ruined. Just, like, knowing that the Huff siblings, like, think we don't like them. When you know historically, I'm a huge fan of Julianne Huff. Like, nobody's a bigger Footloose fan than me. And I fear that unless you listened to the episode entirely, like, you're sort of humorless about the whole thing, because this clip went viral. We didn't clip it. There's, like, this account clipping our content, which I love. But, like, without context, I'm, like, coming for Derek Huff. Apparently, Claudia said, and I want to see the account, because I just heard about it in passing yesterday. It's an account that clips our hottest takes, which even we won't do. Well, I don't think it clips our hottest takes. It clips, it's like AI. It's clipping, like, all this shit. So, all of the takes are in there, and there are a lot that are going viral. Interesting. From that, one of them being the Derek Huff piece. And so, unless you listened to the episode, like, I was obviously kidding. Like, Derek Huff is not my op. And I made him weenie, because, like, he made me feel uncomfortable. Like, it was a joke. But I guess this clip, like, went so viral. I'm getting tagged, like, in so many Derek Huff things. People being like, this is, like, the sweetest man. And then, Trisha Paytas talked about it on her podcast. Like, also lacking complete context. And she has, like, this, not co-host, but, like, this guy who sits in the corner for episodes. And he's, like, a journalist. And he's, like, supposed to tell her all the facts. And he just, like, watched a clip. It's like, those aren't the facts, sir. So, he's, like, gassing Trisha up. Being like, these girls are so annoying. I saw a small clip where it really seemed like she was, like, I really don't want to, like, I don't have any context here. Is this part of a joke? Is this part of a bit? Like, I don't have any. It's almost like there's someone on her show whose job it is to provide the context. And she said that she likes us and that, essentially, she's afraid of us and doesn't want to go there with us. And that works perfectly for me. I feel the same way about Trisha. I want literally zero beef with you. I respect you, actually, a lot. We see each other. And, like, we're good. But I feel that now it's getting blown up even more. Like, I fear I need to repeat myself. I was kidding. It's a joke. It's a bit. Derek Huff is actually not my op, like, in this world. Yeah, we have, like, kind of a long-storied history of being kind of, like, freaky fangirls of Julianne Huff. Remember when we, like, attacked her at that red carpet? I do. When she had red hair? I tried to find the picture yesterday, and it's not in my phone, which is devastating. So if that account could clip this to let, like, people outside of our show know, like, we're not a bunch of, like, weenies. Like, it was a joke. And you have to really watch all of the toast every day to understand our personalities and our segments. And if you're not doing that, you're not going to be able to do it. If you're not doing that, like, you can't adjudicate on a clip that you saw because you don't know what's in our hearts. It's so true. You don't know what's in our hearts. Oh, yeah. And so that, like, really, that guy, like, totally hates us, the one who, like, sits in the corner of Trisha's podcast. And he was bringing up another clip that went viral from that account was our take on Ashley Dupre. Actually, that might have been one of our own clips. That was our own clip. And so he was just, like, they are annoying and have the worst takes. It's, like, you don't get it. You don't get it. No, you don't get it. I'm very proud of that take and that clip. Are those of us in this generation feel that way? Yes. And you know what? It's a women's issue, so why don't you stay the hell out of it? Well, I did feel, like, in large part, like, not you coming into my female-dominated pop culture space and telling me I'm annoying. Of course, not you trying to pit us against Trisha Paytas. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't be me. I would never pit a woman against another woman. You guys know historically I don't believe in that. Yeah. There's a lot of history here today that we need to dig up. Oh, yeah. Time to whip out the history books. Yeah. McGraw-Hill. No, I agree. I agree. We're, like, reaching people who don't know us, and that's always very scary because they don't know what's in our hearts. And they only know, like, our kind of viral hot takes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But they don't know there's so much heart. There's so much heart behind them. Hot and heart. You know, they are obviously hot takes, but when they lack context and you kind of lack, like, us, knowing us, you're just missing out on the full experience of the shows, and I feel sorry for that, of course. Yeah. However, if you still don't know what's in our hearts, you're just missing out on the full experience of the shows, and I feel sorry for that, of course. So, all of it, and you're here today checking us out. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the Toast Podcast. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the Toast Podcast. Also, major update for me, I don't know if you'll be able to see from there, but anything look different about me? Oh, shit. Let me see. You're showing me your hands. You're wearing your wedding ring? I'm wearing my wedding ring. Major postpartum mama milestone. Asterisk. You got it right. I got it resized. I got it resized so that I can wear it at more sizes, not just my bottom weight, and I feel like right now is actually a good time to get it resized because I'm sort of like mid, so it'll fit me going up and going down. It'll fit you big, it'll fit you small. It'll fit me on the way up and on the way down. I'm cracking up. So, and I actually didn't wind up like resetting it like I thought I was going to do because I just, I missed her, so like let me live with her, and let's see if I want to still reset it in a few months or in a year or whatever, and then I also got a wedding band underneath because I didn't have one. So, and I actually didn't wind up like resetting it like I thought I was going to do because I just, I missed her, so let me live with her, and let's see if I want to still reset it in a few months or in a year or whatever, and then I also got a wedding band underneath because I didn't have one. wear on my middle I can wear on my ring or whatever um but this one invades me you got one finger and my ring was tiny before like yeah it was a three and a quarter that's insane because like even at my skinniest I was a five and a half I just have small like hands I guess and and what are they they're just hands and I just want to say now it's at four and a quarter okay biggie no I'm kidding and I I still take pride in that number of course having little dainty hands like they say God doesn't pick favorites but like people with skinny hands and people with fat hands no matter what your physical size is like you just there are some skinny people who have huge sausage fingers and then like little you know people people who have like little dainty skinny long nails that is a chosen person like I have little wrists I just want to say like no matter how big I've gotten I've always had like the tiniest little wrist yeah because you are a small person and like that doesn't help me in any life but like it feels good yeah it feels good to say I have small something it's a small win yeah kind a thousand percent I'm happy for you thank you I'm very excited like I missed I missed it I forgot what it's like I'm like driving I in all the time that I've been driving it's like when I've been a mom so I haven't been wearing my ring the Venn diagram is just two circles and so it's like it's distracting to drive with your ring on oh clear the streets the new drive the student driver just got engaged oh yeah if you're new here we also sing a lot and we sound really good oh I think we all sing and our fans love it oh they say more more and more this is like when you transfer to a new school and you like make up lies about yourself like Mitchie Torres from Camp Rock how her mom is the president of Hot Tunes China yeah we are also heiresses who do a lot of philanthropy yeah for sure and everyone just begs us to sing more put out an album it's exhausting but we do we do our best and we did put out like a body of work it was huge in Japan um you might not know it but we have like lots of fans in Japan we definitely do do you got plans tonight what happened to Shawn Mendes I know you're obsessed with him you should have him on the show we could have him on namesake who oh we have a cousin named Shawn we do have a cousin named Shawn I also realized last night we can have Harry Shum Jr. on namesake I'm okay if you want I didn't realize in week one that that's a Harry who else from did you realize that that's a Harry I didn't because he's Harry Shum Jr. I know but then last night I saw when they had that diner in the beginning it was like a uh they had the names like the Jenna apple pie or whatever and it was like a Harry something I'm like there's a Harry on the show Harry now who else from this season could be eligible for namesake Bruno totally only Bruno totally only I meant more like the contestants listen we've got to think big second third cousins but wait hold on through marriage we don't have a Jenna I think of your in-laws like of course I think of people related to bed no I'm we don't have a Jenna no so that's like half the cast we don't have a Tyler we don't have a Julia we don't have a Sharna we don't have a Julie hold on wait we don't have an Ezra I'm thinking Ben no we don't have a Savannah bananas we could have Jackson we could have Jackson because it's the male version of my name uh-huh we don't have a Giada wait Ben's great no I'm kidding um we don't have a Connor we don't have a Riley we oh there's two Ezra's there is Ezra Sosa and Ezra Fetch who's Ezra Sosa oh I'm sorry you're talking about pro okay sorry I got confused yeah we don't have an Amber we don't have a Guillermo I wish we did yeah Britt Taylor we have a Harry we have a Mark we have a cousin Mark so we could have Mark Ballas on I would love that I've been meaning to chat with Mark Ballas I've been meaning to get namesake off the ground it's such a fantastic concept we have like a lot of sort of secret projects in the work we can't really take on another project no no it's like goals for when I have more time in my life which like I will one day you know this is just a season of course and there will be a namesake season there will be a namesake season where I'm like I want to take on more I've got the time more journalistic no like I just more projects right now I'm sort of like at my limit in terms of like child rearing and work and but one day I think you know seasons change as they say when we're empty nesters it'll be the empty nest podcast that's cute okay hopefully people are still listening yeah yeah please we've got big plans for our 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Anyways, our first story, Taylor Swift announces new music. So I kind of want to go in the order that we experienced it. Is that okay? I would love that because I think the order speaks to some of my confusion. So yesterday, Taylor Swift, and we had been saying things were percolating over at Swift Nation. And yesterday, she posted the cover photo for her new single and announced Patient Zero, a new song that she has been, quote, impatiently waiting to tell us that her brand new single, Patient Zero, will be out on September 25th, exclamation points. It's available to pre-order now for 24 hours, she said. And the photo was strange. Yes. So let's talk about this in a vacuum outside of what we now know as of this morning. Yes, yes. That's what I'm saying. I was so confused. Like, obviously, I'm never going to be mad at Taylor Swift new music. And the thing is, while a lot of times I disagree with some of her style choices or her photo, she always releases good music. So like, I'm taken care of as a fan, fed, as the kids say. But I can't lie, I was extremely shocked to see this, what I consider to be like extremely low budget giving headshot for like new actress in town photo for like the biggest superstar in the world. Like not only is it a hack job on the Photoshop, like I don't know what's going on her armpit side boob area. The mausoleum behind her. I'm just, I'm really not understanding the direction here. Yes. But I also thought like, this is a new direction. Yes, of course. Much like Mr. Schuster. So we're entering a new era. And maybe it's like this like stripped down sad gray era. Just like something new because it's like T Lois was so big and bright and bold. And now we just get like stripped back, lured, patient zero. So I'm like, okay, this is the lead up to the next album. And I was comfortable with that. I was comfortable with that. I was excited for that. Some of the other imagery that came out with like the record and this photo of her that looks to be like candid and she's in a black tank top. Like it's all giving like this new somber era. Right. So we did get a bunch of other imagery from this single moment. Different photos of her, but the same general vibe. LinkedIn, gray, corporate, and like a almost like a little AI, like the one of her like looking straight with the lace tank top, looking to the side, sorry, with like the little lace detail on her tank top and the low bun, like is giving AI generated. It was just like, it was shockingly low budget for someone who we know has unlimited budget. So I want to say in hindsight, now knowing what we know, I feel like these are like clips from a music video. So it's like it is one vibe and one aesthetic from that music video. Yeah, I think it was just like a weird way to announce and lead with it. But given that today, we found out says, actually, she has the new album called the life of a show girl, the encore. So I don't even know if it's an album. Like she's putting out the album again with four new songs. Oh, she's re-releasing the originals too. I thought it was like a separate album, like part two. No, it's like a deluxe album. And when you have a deluxe album, you still have regular on and then the deluxe has just all the songs plus more. So this is her words about, and a year ago, you guys did a truly unfathomable thing, something that completely blew my mind. You gave the life of a show girl, the biggest first week for an album in history. I took a trip to Sweden to celebrate with Max and Shellback, my two collaborators on this album. Max Martin can come on namesake. A thousand percent. Yeah. Unfortunately, Shellback cannot. Really? We just wanted to reflect and take in how grateful we were for the moment we were in. I, by the way, I don't buy that. They just took a trip to Sweden to celebrate something that happened a year ago. There was no trip. Okay. No, fucking way. Okay. Let me finish. So really, we just wanted to reflect and take in how grateful we were for the moment we were in, but there was a studio there and we did what we do when we feel anything at all. We wrote more songs. As Travis says, ah. I hope you love them because they were born out of pure gratitude for your exuberance for and celebration of the album. We made the life of a show girl, the encore, including four new songs. So that means album plus four new songs. Is out on Friday and available to pre-order and save now with a photo from that era of like that was taken, you know, it's like a new album cover, but it looks just like a sequel to the different still from that cover shoot day, how the original gray LinkedIn photos factor in not sure yet. Um, oh, and then I give my unfiltered thoughts. I do want to give like a bit of a wait, hold on. And then the four songs for the album are the new encore songs are called patience. Zero. Hold on. I have them here. Oh gosh. Cleveland. Cute. With an exclamation point, pink clouding and Babylon. Ooh, that feels like for me. Okay. Now, before I give my true unfiltered thoughts, I need to give just like a precursor. Like I love Taylor Swift. I've I'm her number one fan. I'm actually her number one fan. And I feel that I actually don't really criticize her ever. I'm like blindly loyal. Um, but I have a couple of critiques here that I think need to be said. Cause she gets a lot of criticism for being like a money hungry billionaire corporate greed. And it's like, I really can't defend this, you know, against those allegations. Cause this is giving so much countdown, like hoopla for four songs, like not really an album. And well, I love for her body of work the caption is just like not accurate like well yes it might have been the biggest album first week ever because everyone was excited for the Taylor Swift new album that is not a reflection on the contents of the album that's a reflection on where Taylor was at in her life with Travis with the new heights podcast with her being just the biggest artist coming off the era store the first like it was a big deal so it was the first album we were ever getting about Travis so the album succeeding in that way is wonderful but it's really not an implication on to what's inside the album and I feel that as somebody who has listened to every single album the day they came out like since she started this was definitely like one of her lesser performing ones melodically and sonically and and culturally and culturally I think we need to like let it be like if that's me I'm moving on to the next thing well I'm not doing my deluxe schmolux palux but I'm doing my deluxe schmolux palux palux but I'm doing my deluxe schmolux palux palux but I'm doing my deluxe schmolux palux but I'm doing my deluxe schmolux palux because I don't really want to open this back up it wasn't reflective of what I think her best work can be yeah I agree and I don't understand the motivation here like maybe it is to get more streams for T-Law you know she always is working some like backdoor angle to be the most celebrated something but like she has so much like more to say now and like the showgirl era was now almost two years ago so why are we still living there yeah because she ended her tour when I thought it was like in a December and it wasn't this past December oh no she said about a year ago you guys did something unfathomable so it hasn't even been a year I meant not the album when did she end the eras tour the showgirl era of her life is almost two years ago so she's lived so much since then you know she's obviously married and married this romance and like we want to be caught up with that and so I guess these songs though they were written more recently they're about how excited we feel about the success of T-Law us no and like if you want to release four deluxe songs off of T-Law us just like sort of to bridge you to your next album I don't know when her next album's coming out so like you know you don't want to not release music for Xperia I feel like that's totally fine like yeah give us music but under the guise of it being like a whole new album with the drops of the countdowns and she's going to the MTV Music Awards it's giving the same type of formula of things that she does when she does actually release an album it's like if you make everything a big deal then nothing's a big deal the same way she did the countdown for releasing a song for Toy Story like you know it's hard to get excited about every countdown who knows if it's going to be a whole new album or one song or a deluxe cover with a new vinyl or whatever it's always a new vinyl it's always a shiny bug I that's my limit was the shiny bug vinyl actually do you want to know what my limit was what was all too well which version all too well sad girl version like the remixes like I think she did four or five remixes of the all too well that is genuinely where she like where I stopped tuning in for every countdown because I was like oh the countdowns are just not serious yeah yeah so had that being said like i pre-ordered already i'm sat for the four new songs what does pre-ordering get you um just like for me i think it gets me like the ability to be a number one fan who can provide critiques it's like yeah i'm still supporting but i'm criticizing as well but like what does the experience of pre-ordering different than like me waking up on friday and streaming the song oh i own it i'm an owner like on an airplane i can listen to it but you could also buy it on friday oh i could buy it on friday yeah but like you know good fans like to pre-order because it creates lots of hype i mean for taylor like her songs are gonna get played on the radio but for like a new artist if they have a lot of like pre-saves and pre-orders it builds hype it gets them on radio no no but like i understand like pre-ordering a book because it will be there the day that you that it comes out instead of ordering it on that day you don't get you don't get special access and it's like i don't order books every day so like let me pre-order it when i see the book i want to read and then it'll show up one day i listen to music every day i'm not gonna miss it do you have currently have any book pre-orders like in the ether that you're just sophia franklin i have jaylen brunson's children's book oh that's i'll get it i'll get it next november every time i go to my amazon orders it's like sophia franklin pre-order for a long time it was babs's cookbook that was always cracking coming in so many months but i see it every time i check my order see look it's my only like outstanding order of something i've ordered that hasn't arrived that hasn't been delivered yet yeah arriving november 10th arriving today what's this i also want to say that i actually happen to really like this photo she chose for the deluxe album cover you do i do um are you sure yes especially because i really didn't like the one she really chose we got so much imagery from the life of a showgirl every time she released a song it had a new like photo and any one of them would have been a better cover than what she ended up with in the bathtub and if this was the cover of the life of a showgirl what she just did for encore i would have loved her legs look sickening um this is the vibe that she was going for like very showgirl-y so i would have preferred this um also the photo in the bathtub has grown on me to the point that i prefer that over this this is just no i really don't like the bathtub her face is shadowed they're also seeing all the other showgirl imagery you know her and the get up and the feathers and everything um there were so many better if you scroll through her instagram there were so many and so many better pictures than this encore picture yes look i'm sending you that's like always taylor she released her this is so much good stuff and never chooses like her singles her singles are never the best songs from the album right she doesn't like put forth the best i'm sending you two that would have been so cute for i saw the first one oh the second one sick like that she did so many elaborate vegas sort of no and look swipe because then she put it on t swipe she made them into a cover so much better so much better the good news is that like the music will be good like we like her style is these work like but her music is always good even the life of a showgirl which is to me one of her not worse because it's not bad but no it's still better than the music that came out last year but when you compare it to taylor is so good like yeah like even her what i consider to be like lesser good music is better than the garbage slop that's on the radio yeah so we're still getting four new songs yeah fun yeah i just like didn't love the rollout i was confused we were gonna get something but we're i thought we were moving forward instead we're moving back yeah and so it's like it's great we're getting four new songs it's giving like from the vault but okay and i didn't need anything like it's only been a year less than a year since her last album like you're allowed to take a break yeah but they were and we're still getting and the studio was just right there was just there yeah i just feel like she's so busy like you don't take a trip to celebrate excuse me they would come to her they don't take a trip to celebrate the reception of an album that you knew was gonna crush a thousand percent are you ready for our next story speaking of music news yeah this is kind of big ella langley's song choosing texas has broken the all-time hot 100 record with a 23rd week at number one so people say this is also why taylor's releasing new music interesting but what is this even though nothing taylor's gonna release is gonna compete with this no but you know it's like you know ella langley's had enough fun time for taylor to take control even though i do not think that i think she also she definitely has a complicated relationship with other female artists i don't think she's like blanket support other women type of shit and nor should she be by the way um and i don't think that this has anything to do with that but that's a joke people are making that's funny but if she really wanted to unseat ella langley it's not going to be like with four new songs from an old album from a deluxe out from the from the cutting room floor it would be with a new country pop album even though the craziest thing is that new romantics was a taylor swift deluxe song that you could only get if you bought the physical cd at target and it's literally one of the best songs like of our generation you know so you never know what could be on a taylor swift deluxe album yeah no no and i'm sad yeah but no this is not going to be the thing that takes ella langley off the charts no so ella langley just hit her 23rd week at number one on the billboard hot 100 with her song choose in texas and she has just unseated mariah carey who was number one for 22 weeks in total for all i want for christmas is right because it comes back every year every year so that's between 2019 and 2026 it's been a long time since i've been on the six it's been 22 weeks oh my god mariah must be flipping because that's actually like something i think like a record that she holds near and dear to her well i guess when this holiday season rolls around she'll be back i don't know if she'll be back for 19 weeks straight or what was it 22 yeah i guess but she'll get more weeks like can she just add them on to her weeks well not if ella langley keeps keeping it's crazy you know what it is like there are a lot of songs that go like viral and they really do eventually become annoying no matter how good the song is i don't find that with ella langley yet like it's still a good song yeah drinking jack up by myself did you watch your music video no but i see it right here it was um casey from yellowstone oh cute yeah it was actually really good it was like very high production value they had a lot of stars in it i really liked it also the rest of this list is interesting number three for 19 consecutive weeks at number one is a bar song by shibuzi that's what i was going to say when i say songs that get like a little annoying after 19 weeks for me i love a bar song started to nag a little bit then old town road yeah remember that that got annoying quickly yeah it was good good times then that was just a crazy time yeah then last night by morgan wallen like not a song i love no but it is huge like people who don't even listen to morgan wallen knew that song yeah then despacito remember it's actually crazy how it's like all country i know of course i remember despacito that was a time despacito 2017 and then one sweet day by mariah carey and boys to men i don't even know that song isn't that crazy what year was that that was 1995 96 oh okay that's why so i was like we didn't like have control we didn't have control of the radio dials in the car i didn't have control of my thumbs like i was one um so congrats to ella langley yes i am curious what will happen with her at the grammys like will she sweep it doesn't happen a lot with country artists but like it's sort of undeniably been her year yeah i don't know she should she should but will they give it to her i don't know they don't like love to give country that's why it's such a big deal when casey musgraves won even though that album is like really and but like that i don't know something about casey like she was more for everyone and i feel like ella is very country and like i don't know casey it's like she's just i feel like she's very industry she's on board you know no now but like at the time even when she won people didn't really know who she was yeah i just like when bony bear randomly won ella's a little more of a renegade i don't know she is no she doesn't like she's very country and she's not like changing that yeah and she's like she's had this insane success and she has not changed one thing about how she dresses her career like literally anything what types of venues she plays um whereas like casey was like very ready for the spotlight and like became america's sweetheart very compliant yeah right no i yes she definitely has that's why she's like so friendly with miranda lambert like that's why she's like so friendly with miranda lambert like that bad gal country vibe bad gal and miranda lambert actually wrote on uh choosing texas so she'll also win a grammy if it wins amazing yeah fun fact are you ready for our next oh my god speaking of miranda lambert fun fact about me is that i follow court overstreet on instagram yeah he's an he's an old friend and he went to a texas longhorns game and he posted like a carousel of pictures when i tell you i could not stop staring at this picture because it was like the most random group of celebrities okay court overstreet we know he's best friends with glenn powell yes of course michelle randolph is in the picture as well who's next michelle randolph zach efron who's standing behind zach efron miranda lambert who's standing underneath miranda lambert madeline klein who's standing at the end court overstreet and then next to court overstreet who's that oh yeah miles teller like i was looking at this picture i'm like how in the fuck did this group of people get together well the men in that picture make a lot of sense like cord miles glenn and zach and miles are are kind of like very similar people they don't i know court and glenn are friends but i didn't know that they hung out with zach efron and miles teller has like a very specific group of celebrity friends i think zach efron and miles teller are friends from that movie they did that awkward project x yeah right such a good movie and then i imagine everyone else is just longhorns fans so like that's maybe that box of people but like madeline klein is a longhorns fan or is she dating zach efron well she's actually kneeling down next to zach efron in the photo And no two people have less chemistry than them, too. I'm going to send you this picture. Like, their shoulders are barely touching. They're definitely not dating. Oh, come on. Just let me believe. I know. I thought, too. I'm like, oh, maybe they're together. But, like, seriously, not. You could tell. And you know Glenn Powell loves college football so much. Like, that's literally, Chad Powers is like a love letter to college football. Yes. So, like, this is obviously, like, a big night for him and Michelle, who are still going so strong. And I love. The perfect couple. The perfect couple doesn't exist. As the kids say, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is it. Did you know what I was doing? It doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You stop yourself because it does. Exactly. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Meghan Markle was spotted in the U.K. for the first time since she moved as she mingled with a fellow A-list expat, Ellen DeGeneres. Oh, I saw. They sat down for a little lunch a la Francais. No. What are you. Outside. What do you say? Luncheon. Sanchere. Alfresco. An Alfresco luncheon. Yeah, I forgot that she fled the country, Miss Ellen. Wow. You think you've been canceled? She had to leave the country. The duo were spotted chatting at the Three Horses near Burford, Oxfordshire, along with Portia de Rossi in photos obtained by Page Six. Don't make me call Portia. And this is in the Cotswold. So it's still part of, like, the Cotswold takeover. Did you see Prince Harry was interviewed? Like, oh, how is it? Like, and he said, like, he was like, what did he say? He cracked me up. He was like, it's bittersweet. It's like, OK. That's what he said. I need to find the video. I was like, I thought I was watching AI. I'm like, first of all, how are you interviewing him? Where was he being interviewed? It was literally just like a microphone shit. I don't know how the fuck I'm going to find this video. I should have saved it because his answer was like hostage. Like Prince Harry interview. The plot thickens. Let me try. Let me find that. Oh, here. How has it been settling in to the UK life? What's been your highlight so far? My highlight so far. Would I have to share it with you? Look, the last two weeks has been, it's been, it's been eventful. Has it been settling back? I guess that's all he said. Maybe he didn't say. Maybe he didn't say bittersweet. It's been eventful. Moving is eventful. So that's factual. Also very stressful. Yeah. No, but I would say, I guess I'm like Harry Megan because I moved in the last few weeks and it's been eventful. Yeah. He really has a way with words, that Prince Harry. He sort of nailed it. But Megan's out in the Cotswolds with Ellen DeGeneres. And I think they were friends in Montecito. Yes. She was at her birthday party. Yep. And the, according to like they, yeah, they're friends. I guess this is like exactly what she should be doing. Yeah. It's just like hard to get excited about this, you know? No, no. I don't think we're expecting excitement. Just sort of like keeping tabs, monitoring the situation. Yeah. Waiting until we have an understanding. Understanding of what the hell happened. Yeah, right. You know, this doesn't lead us any closer, but it's good to have a friend. It's nice to have a friend. And I think she has other friends too, but I think, I imagine Ellen like is, they can relate on a lot of stuff. She's still friends with Priyanka Chopra. No. Right? Right. What about Serena? She had like a couple of high profile friends who were at the wedding. Serena Williams. I feel like the dissolution of Priyanka like seemed very clear. Yes. And like they were never split. Spotted again. I'm sure she's still friends with Serena Williams. And then that like Canadian girl who's like an heiress, Jessica something. But there was beef? They're not friends anymore. Yeah. But then she was like spotted with a friend in Oxford, in Cotswolds last week. Or like, I didn't click it, but they were either together or they were not together. You know, I imagine she's a difficult person to maintain a friendship with. Yeah. She's got a lot going on. Like she's like, Harry said, it's been an event for a couple of weeks. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Some fashion news. Law Roach is now styling Kim Kardashian. You know what? I love this. Even though I do feel like it's hard for other clients of Law Roach to like stand out. Because like he's just Zendaya's guy. Even though he does successfully like style a lot of other people, he's just so known for being Zendaya's guy. I'm surprised like Kim would want to sort of be second fiddle to Zendaya. Because no matter who comes into Law Roach's life, they're going to be second fiddle. Like even if it's, you know, the Queen. But I feel like they could both sort of be number one. Because I don't really think they'll be competing for looks. And I don't think they go to a lot of the same events. I don't think they should be competing for looks. Like I think he should see something and it should be very clear if it's one or the other. They're not like so similar. They're different ages, like in different categories. So like I think he could effectively do both. People are really excited because her style is just sort of questionable. So bad. Over the years. It's crazy because she really. I don't know someone in recent history. People are going to be like, Clutter, you're so dramatic. Who's actually had a bigger impact on like what people wear. What people actually wear. Yeah. She invented so many trends. Like she really did. And whether you want to say that was Kanye or her, whatever. She has not had a good look or an impact on fashion in almost a decade. Like she does not serve looks anymore. The last time she like made me feel something was probably like her Mecca look stink. The last good one was Heavenly Bodies. And I think that was Kanye. I'm so over like her sort of like performance art fashion. It's not influential. She doesn't really make an impact. And it's crazy because she's like this fashion girl, fashion girl, fashion girl. Like Met Gala is her sweet 16. And it's like, what have you done? Yeah. And I agree with what you're saying in the timeline. So it really does point to the fact that it was Kanye. I know. Because we're saying we have. She hasn't had those moments like since. And by the way, that's fine. Like not like you don't need to. Like you still did it. Like you were the influence. But I will also. I will also say before Kanye, I feel like she was influencing what people wore and how people styled themselves. Like when they had the beachy waves and like the, you know, skinny jeans and blazers. And the big pumps. Yeah. Yeah. And like people wanted to dress like them. And now it's just like all lost. And it's a freak show. I would never even think to try to practically apply her sense of fashion to my own life. No. Whereas, yes, like for so many years, like everything the Kardashians wore, we all tried to emulate. Like, yeah, they're they're Balmain era. Like all the blazers. Yeah. They haven't. Well, not they. She has not really served a look that stopped me in my tracks in a very long time. Yeah. So this is exciting. And there was one outing that she was wearing a look from St. Laurent and it was styled by Law Roach and she looked good. Yeah. No, it was like a good look. It wasn't show stopping, stopping me in my tracks, but it was good. Yeah. So this is just like a fun switch up, I would say. And we can look forward to the looks. I just feel like when, whenever you're in town, like bring in Law Roach, there are certain people like who just know what they're doing. Like when you're making a music video, bring in that Hannah Lux Davis. Like there are certain people who just are good at their craft and sort of guarantee a positive outcome. Yeah. Agreed. Like if I want my makeup done, I'm calling Mario. Yeah. If I want my hair done, I'm calling Chris. Like experts in their fields. Yeah. But some people like, you know, like to do it themselves and find themselves to be creative and which is also like good and fun. It's like, if I like to do it, I'm going to do it. But if I love doing makeup, like I would do it myself. Well, I love doing makeup and I like love getting it done. It's more so just like an exhausting type of thing. Yeah. I think this will be like fun change, change of scenery. Me too. Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is Dancing with the Stars recap? Before it, the Dancing with the Stars recap and dear toasters, let me let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Honest. Let's talk to the mamas for a second or really anyone who's ever had to shop for a baby. 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I was, like, halfway through, I was, like, wait, what's the theme? Yeah. I liked it, though. And then, like, is The Door by Teddy Swim a viral hit? I'm glad you asked. No. Well, I enjoyed that they were dancing. It is in your house, but otherwise, no. It is viral in my Tesla. So, as always, let's just go through the dances. You're famous at our club. Let's go through the. So good. What's that from? I don't know. Legally Blonde, Vivian Kensington to Elle Woods. Oh, yes. Such a bitch. Such a bitch. Let's go through the dances in the order in which we received them. Jenna, thank you to Deadline.com, the only publication that does this for me every week. First. Shout out. We have Jenna Dewan and Val Shmerkovski. So, it was a great dance. Technically, you know, I liked the outfits. Everything was great. I feel next to nothing when I watch them dance. And I didn't vote for them because, like. I felt nothing. I don't know. I feel that way about Harry Shum Jr. Amber, like, anyone. They're just good. And it's like, I'm happy for you, but you show me no struggle. Jenna Dewan could not be opening up less in her packaging. At least Amber Glenn was opening up about stuff. Like, Jenna's just, like, riding on the fact that she's a decent dancer. Like, she's giving us nothing. Yeah, she kind of was feeling like the Hilaria of the season, which is such an insult. But someone who's going to get by on her scores until she has a bad week. Because I don't know why she's just not coming off likable. And I actually think up until Dancing with the Stars, like, nobody has a problem with Jenna Dewan. No. She's, like, totally. Inoffensive. Yep. Actress. Neutral. Working actress. It's also crazy that she was, like, Mrs. Channing Tatum for so long. She's a mama. And it's just not coming through. There's nothing that I can connect to in her packages, in her dancing. And I'm watching, I'm like, yeah, that's a good dance. Like, they did really good. They did the best. Yeah. But I agree. I felt nothing. I'm searching desperately for, like, a fuck to give. Yeah. So they got 21 out of 30. Then Sierra Miller with Brandon Armstrong. They danced to No Broke Boys. No Broke Boys. Loved. This is exactly what I'm looking for from my Dancing with the Stars contestants. Improvement. Vast improvement every week. And, like, yeah, her explaining, like, I was so fucking nervous. Like, thank you. That's such a human element. Like I said, I'm always looking for things to connect with people. And I'm low-key watching the packages, like, with a very, you know, sort of. Because you dance could be whatever, but, like, do I like you? For me, it's Package with the Stars. Like, I am voting for you and judging you. Title. Based on your package. Yes. And so I felt like Sierra, like, really opened up. And she got a lot of shit. Everyone was like, you know, she has sort of. She was trying not to cry. If you watch Summer House, you know how her face is. But, like, I guess what last week when Carrie Ann was, like, giving her, like, a beautiful moment. Being like, I see your pain. She had this sort of, like, stank face on. But it was her, like, way of not crying. I didn't think anything of it. But people who are new to her were like, oh, she has a stank face. So this week she was, like, really putting it on with the smiles and stuff. I was like, all right, Sierra, you don't need to do that much. Yeah. But her dance was so much better. Like, she's just a regular person learning how to dance. Like, I felt that, like, if someone I know went on the show, they would have this similar arc to her so far. And it was refreshing to see, like, yeah, good job. You got better. No, and, like, last week was, like, a serious dance in the gown. It was all, like, sort of somber. And, like, this week it was fun and playful. And I felt like she could come out of her shell a little bit. I do feel like the personality did a 180 from last week. And she was, like, in her interview. People were too hard on her. So she was definitely, like, self-conscious being like, I don't want people to think I'm, like, stank face, resting bitch face. So she was, like, kind of, like, on crack. To the point that I didn't recognize her. And we've been watching her on TV for, like, six years. And I didn't know who that person was. But, yeah, she's obviously taking the criticism and, like, really, really trying. And you know what? I like when people take this seriously. And, like, I feel that her dance last night reflected vast improvement. Which is exactly what I'm looking for. And you really are being so vulnerable going on this show. Like, opening yourself up. Every part of it. Look, we're talking shit about everyone. And their dances and their packages. And you're not, like. It's true. And she said, like, being vulnerable is so hard. Hard for her. And so, like. And we know that from Summer House. Like, she does have a wall up. Even if you don't share anything in your package. Like, just going out onto that stage and doing something that you are not an expert at. So brave. And asking people to judge you is very hard. Yeah. 100%. So it was a good week for them. Then Tyler Cameron and Sharna Burgess danced to Girls by Kid LAROI, the viral hit from Off Campus. If anyone wanted to know if I was okay. Like, I wasn't. For so many reasons. You know. Like, I fucking. Love Off Campus. Like, I'm still crushing on Garrett Graham. Like, I'm still thinking about him. For Tyler. I don't know whose fucking idea it was. For, like, him to lean into the Garrett Graham. Because, yeah. For people. A younger generation who may not know Tyler. That's what he is. Like, he is Garrett Graham to millennials. And so, I just about died. I normally don't love, like, this shameless sort of, like, taking your shirt off. Ha ha. But I'm sorry. Tyler needed to let these bitches know. I. I actually was glad Ben wasn't there. Because I was like. I. My. Jaw hit the floor. I loved every second of it. The judges are just so fucking jealous. Like, they were just like. His scores were low. I don't care. It was crazy that his scores were low. I fucking loved it. Because also, like, in addition to the cultural moment. I thought he danced really well. And as far as taking his shirt off. Like, he is objectively and, like, clinically in insane shape. I don't give a fuck. Okay. And, like, Derek does it when he dances. All the time. You want to see those muscles, like, move. No. And it's important that, like, people know what Tyler is working with. Like, his body. His looks. Like, it's a part of who he is. And, like, why America really fell in love with him. It's part of the whole package. And then the best part is that, like, you get to know him as a person. And he's genuinely. So funny. Someone texted me. Someone texted me. Was like. Is Tyler actually, like, nice like that? I'm like. He is a mensch. Like, he is the nicest guy ever in the whole world. Like, so generous. And. He uses his looks to let people in. And then, like, they see his heart of gold. He had to do what he had to do. Because if you're not familiar with Tyler. They might have let him go home. Yeah. Now they know. And now we're going to start to get to know Tyler. Yeah. Yeah. I voted for him ten times. I had to pull up my votes. Also, the way that you feel about. I was being, like, a voting whore. I voted for everyone. The way you feel about Taylor Swift, like, abusing the capitalist system with all of her, like, different vinyl editions is the way I feel about Dancing with the Stars. Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. And their voting methods. Because, what, every time I send a text, they're collecting, like, 99 cents. So, like. Yeah. They're making you text so many times. Jackie, why don't you download. Why don't you do it on your computer, then? Oh, I guess I could do it on my computer. I think computer's free. I like being on my computer. I voted for Tyler ten times. Yeah. He blew me away. Yeah. And, like, he knew. Like, I'm. I was a target audience for that dance. You know? Yes, you were. And hot take. I liked it better when Tyler did it than when Belmont Camelli did it at the concert. I. Hot take. You guys know I thought that was weird. Hot take. The moment in the show was insignificant. Jackie, I didn't even remember it. But then I watched it. I watched the show a second time. And I was like, oh, that's the dance. He didn't even do anything. But I didn't even know what the reference was. Next. I loved it. Julia Stiles and Ezra Sosa. They danced the Door Bite 20 Swim. So automatic points for me. She had an off week, I would say. I would agree. I think she was so relieved to not go home because like she got a 16 and the package wasn't packaging and she could have gone home. The package wasn't packaging. Like I feel like last week, her package like made me laugh. The Andy Cohen thing, like and then the dance was so stellar to me. Yeah, I didn't really get anything from either, whether it was the package or the dance. But I think it's good when people have really strong first weeks and then they like fuck up because it's easy to get cozy and comfortable being like, yeah, I'm number one. Everybody loves me. I'm so good. You know, you need to sort of become hardened. Yeah, but also we want to see room for improvement. Yeah. So it's good to drop down as long as you don't get eliminated. And then work back up. I happen to like that they're grading everyone like based on a different, based on the person's individual needs. The only time it's like kind of silly is when you see the chart. You're like, well, that person wasn't better than that person. So it's like the overall chart. Like I kind of need them to stop showing it because it's not accurate. I mean, it's not a perfect system. No, it's not. But I think it's better than judging because Guillermo, what should have gotten a three total, you know, but based on his unique set of abilities. Yeah. Next, Jackson Olsen and Emma Slater, a fun couple. What did they dance to? They danced to That's So True by Gacy Abrams. Oh, that's a really good song. And he's so TikTok. Like they knew what they were doing with that. It was good. Um, I'm trying to remember, like his package was what? Not deep or anything. It was fine. The dance was fine. It was all very mid. Yeah, very mid. But I'm rooting for him, but not voting for him. Correct. Then we have Giada De Laurentiis and Alan Burstyn. They danced to Bella Ciao by Becky G, which I didn't know that was happening as a song that like she remixed Bella Ciao. I had no clue. Perfect song choice for them. The dance fell flat and they were sent home. Yeah. Cause it was going to be Giada last week, but her package saved her. And this week, um, not only was her dance worse, her package also like left little to be desired. And I felt like also like I could sense that she was over this. Like we've had our fun. Oh, I don't think so. I could see like her and Alan were like fighting in the back a lot. Oh, that was weird. But I actually feel like she was very sad to go home last night. Like she made a whole big deal about doing it. I think it's more so about like not wanting to be like going home so early, but I got the sense that she was like relieved to not have to show up to rehearsals. Tomorrow. Well, of course, which I would be too. Yeah. Then it was clearly her time. I was afraid that it might've been fibula because just performance wise, he, I would say like flubbed the most. Um, but he has a lot of fans. Like people don't really care. And it's funny, like, sorry, I'm just jumping ahead to fibula. If I can, he's next anyway. So Connor would in Riley Arnold, like my heart broke watching him fumble across that dance floor. Like he just missed a step and couldn't catch his feet for like 10 minutes. But I think he really, um, like, won people over when he got up. This judges were so sad. And then Julian was like, how do you feel? And he was like, I feel good. Like he really had such a positive attitude. He's like, okay, well, we'll get better next week. It's like, oh yeah. Like this is just a show. Like we're going to be okay. Yeah. And you know what? I felt like he really saved his spot because I was like, you know what? That's an attitude. And of course I voted for him because like, honestly, I felt so bad. Like it's something that could happen to anyone. You know, you trip up a little bit and messes the whole thing up. He got it back together at the end. But he needs to improve like next week. I think that it was either him or Giada. Um, and to get him out of that, like sort of danger zone, he needs to really like kill it next week. Yeah. Agreed. Then we have Ezra Frech and Daniela Karagash. They, the winners. Yeah. They dance to, um, go low, sure to get low by Flo Rida. It was incredible. It was incredible. Every part of it. Like, obviously I watched, let him through the lens of like how amazing it is that he's able to do this with his disability, but like forgetting all that it was the best dance period. Yeah. No ability or not limbs. No matter how many you have, you have extras or you have none. Like it was the best dance of the night. It was the best dance of the night. It was so well choreographed. It was fun. It was fresh. He really, his hips can really move. And it's so actually, you know what? I appreciated Derek Hough explaining it about himself. When he started to make it about himself, I'm like, is this guy fucking for real? But you know what? He provided interesting context. It's relevant. And it was very interesting because he was like, when I danced, I forget the name of the person he danced with, who also had a prosthetic leg. He was like, people who have prosthetics are so comfortable shifting their weight. They're so aware of it more so than people who don't wear. And it makes them like so intentional about the way they move. And I could see it when he was doing that. So I actually appreciated Derek sharing that fun fact. Yeah. No, he's like a great dancer. He's got rhythm. And it's been, package wise, it's been so interesting to see how they learn about him, how to see how they tweak the moves to accommodate his needs. And it's actually like even more fun and fresh. It's like better. That's why, first of all, she's an amazing pro. Like I think he would do, he would do well regardless. She's insane. She's insane. Yeah. They're going to win 100%. Like it's over. And also, I don't know if you know, Ezra French, a Jew. I didn't know. A Persian Jew. Yeah. I didn't know. And I was already rooting for him. Me too. I was reading him before I knew that. But now obviously he is my number one. I text Ezra to 21523. Of course. I texted 10 times for Ezra. Then we had Tatiana Ali and Jan Ravnik. They danced to what I was made for. It was like very emotional talking about her upbringing as a child star. Like I just, I thought maybe last week was a fluke that like I wouldn't love her again. Like, cause she is so random to me. Like I didn't watch Fresh Prince. The way I love this woman. And I feel that she really represents, like a demographic that watches this show. I think a lot of people see themselves in her. And a lot of people watch her growing up. So they feel connected to her. She will go far, farther than I thought she would. She's getting a lot better. Yeah. But what's interesting actually is I would say she's pretty comparable to Julia Stiles in terms of like age and legacy. Age and ability. Legacy too. And the way like, you know, oh, nostalgic favorite actress. But I don't feel that tied to Julia Stiles like via package. Yeah. That I do to Tatiana. Julia did say, she has like a very complicated relationship with fame and she's always run from it. And this show was like so opposite of that. You have to make a thousand TikToks a day and share every part of yourself. Do so many interviews before, during, after. And so I feel that she does need to open up a little bit more to let people in. Cause she's giving us kind of the bare minimum. I don't know her. Yeah. Right. Whereas like Tatiana, I didn't know, really know her before. And I know her better than I know Julia Stiles. That's a good comparison. Yeah. Amber Glenn and Pasha Pashkov dancing to all the things she said. Um, it was really good. I felt the same way about Jenna Dewan. It was so good. And I don't know. I just like, I wasn't moved to pick up my phone or vote. Like it's just, it's like these people who are good dancers, I, they come in with an advantage. And for me, they come in with a disadvantage because I just like, I'm not impressed. But, but then there are people who are good dancers who come in with that advantage. And I love it. Like, like Whitney or, and even like Maura Morris actually happens to be a great dancer. And Maura are not by trade. Dancers are dancing adjacent. Jenna Dewan is. Harry Shum is. Amber Glenn is a figure skater. It's the same thing. So it's like, it's impressive because Whitney is still a regular person. Those three are not regular people. Okay. But I just want to say like, and there's a lot of bad dance that we're watching. So like I'm here, I would love to watch some good dance, but I'm also need to like feel something. And that's why not to jump ahead, but Maura and Mark are amazing. Yeah. She was really good. Not as good as the first week, but the thing is like she, okay. So I heard like a rumor about Maura. Have you heard? Have you guys heard this? No. This is totally unfounded from my TikTok comment section, but I've seen it a couple of times that Maura, because she was cast really early. And I think she knew even before they announced it, that she was going to be cast. That she was like in classes, like getting like trained, even though like a couple of weeks extra is not. Oh, that's interesting. That doesn't make a huge deal. But so was Sierra. She was cast really early. Yeah. So was Jackson Olsen. True. We've like, we were doing casts even before we went to the Hamptons. We were talking about who was going to be on the show. So I actually don't think that that's like a huge leg up. Maura just happens to be like a really elegant dancer. And I feel like she like has this unique, she reminds me of like Audrey Hepburn. She's just so like, like a fairy. Like, and she has her own way of moving that I really enjoy. I thought last night was a delight. I felt like I was watching Holly go lightly. She did like have a little bit of a stumble, but who cares? Like she, she will go very far. And I think it's really hard to go last because if you get bad scores, you're probably going home because there's no time. She went last, last week too. No, she didn't, but it was also at the very end, but it was broken up based on. So last week when they broke it up, it was like, Oh my God, so much content between dances, commercials and interviews and the troop. And, and then this week it was like the dances were so short. The packages were so short. You can only say one word for the judges. And now we're going to commercial break. It's like, well, they'll have to eliminate some people and then we can sort of slow it down. We kind of need like a double. Double elimination. I agree. There's too many people. It's too many. Um, but it really sucks when you go last because there's one minute for people to vote for you. Yeah. And that's why if you are on your phone at all during the show, like people who haven't danced yet and people have, they are posting like stories, tick tocks, reels, text to, even if you haven't danced yet, I'm like, why would I vote for you yet? You haven't danced. Yeah. I haven't seen the package. Um, then going back to where we are, Guillermo and Whitney Carson. I know she's so tired and she didn't know she was going to make it this far. And don't worry. I do think like probably in three, three more weeks, you will be home with your- I'm sorry we're not ready to say goodbye he's such a delight I think the cast just loves having him around his package he he what he brings his package is humor he cracks me up in those but he's also like you know opens up about his wife he really wants it he wants to be there too yeah and he wants to improve I do feel I don't know if Whitney actually wants to go home because you also have to remember that every week that you're on is another paycheck yeah um and it's just like great for your cachet as a pro like I think last season was amazing for Emma Slater with what she was able to do for do with Andy yeah so this is just like good for her but I also feel like in the dances she is working too hard and she needs to do less agreed like I she's flying across the floor like with her leg up on Guillermo's shoulder please do less but they know what they're doing with Guillermo like it's Andy 2.0 the camera angles the the knee slides with the better than Andy agreed because we all loved Guillermo even before he took one step we actually we didn't know Andy and we were all dazzled by him but like we are already dazzled by Guillermo like I I can't imagine a week where I stopped voting for Guillermo I'm sorry I can't imagine either that's how I felt about Andy and did you see uh Whitney's gender reveal she's having a third boy she's so cute her kids are so cute they're so cute there's such a cute family the video was so cute I just I love her I love her too Mazel Tov to the cars I am to the Carson McAllister's yeah next we have Taylor Hanson and Britt Stewart you know I actually forget what they did they danced a cake by the ocean they wore teal oh yeah yeah yeah it was fine people love him like okay good I'm glad someone I like Britt I want her to go far I feel like she gets the worst partners she does she does she have last season Baron Davis like yeah come on I want her to go far not bad I just like I can't muster up a fuck honestly no and I feel like the position that like he would hold in my rankings is like taken by Savannah bananas you think so yeah yeah no another one like Savannah where I'm rooting for you I'm not voting for you I'm not necessarily even rooting for you but I'm not rooting against you there are people I'm rooting against one thousand percent would never say it of course then Harry Shum Jr. and Jenna Johnson they danced to Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls it was a V&A oh he screamed at us did you see him scream I don't I don't know what was happening I didn't watch he did this like cathartic like ah when I tell you my butt cheeks clenched like apparently his dance last week and like this week is going viral like for cringe like oh did you see last week I mean he is from Glee like you see last week when they ended their dance and it had that heartbeat like and he was like yeah yeah yeah that the thing about Harry Shum Jr. it's Jenna Dewan Amber Glenn 2.0 like good for you you did amazing I don't care and the package has not brought me in no although I did see somebody you know they have all the reporters come to the dance floor after the show wraps like interviewing people and he they were like which of the Glee people like are going to come because you always have your celebrity friends come and he said a bunch of them have texted they want to come he said Matt that's Matthew Morrison right like if he brought me in I would have been like oh my god I'm going to if he brings Matthew Morrison to the ballroom I will vote for him every week 10 times oh really I thought you were going to like vote for everyone else 10 times to get him off no I'm sorry oh have I not updated you guys that I've done like a complete 180 on Matthew Morrison I love him no you didn't update us obviously like I sort of led the charge in uncovering the cringe that is Mr. Shu do you know what happened to him on 9-11 yes um that's not what did it for me I've just been seeing like a lot of it's just sort of like he didn't do anything it's a crazy story he didn't do something heroic he just had to do something heroic he just had to do something heroic he just happened he got stuck in the subway so he was like literally underground for most of the day by the time he got out he went to his house his girlfriend was there in bed with another man yeah who had sex on 9-11 like that's insane yeah um but no I've been seeing like so much content of him like from his concerts that he does and he does a lot of cameos and like you know what like he's kind of sweet and I I'm I'm switching my tune and I want him in the ballroom him on Dancing with the Stars when he definitely has been he definitely has been so Giotto went home and we're all okay yeah and next week is Yacht Rock Night okay like I said extremely weird themes like extremely weird themes they were also teasing some of the future themes I forget what it was but it was weird today is also Wednesday which we're doing it's nothing we're gonna do it oh what you want to push it to tomorrow I don't know it just like got sort of crazy and what if tomorrow there's like a I know and it's like kind of a long episode it's a long episode I'm scared there's not gonna be stories tomorrow because no Dancing with the Stars no Taylor Swift okay I mean I'm open but like just know if the GTQ is coming for anyone come for Jackie come for me but like you guys I tried I feel like you guys are going to I feel like tomorrow is going to be thin because today was so thick no and I don't want this episode to be so long that we can't get it up in a timely fashion like yesterday I agree we have to cap it I'm sorry yellow Jackie not me thank you guys pencil down to the toast millennium morning show blue books closed we're ready to love the fast time stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so if you're watching us on YouTube please don't forget to subscribe and give us a thumbs up we're also 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Jackson and Jacqueline discuss the absurd cost of a $50 "dazzle dry" pedicure in NYC, highlighting how luxury services are undervalued and overpriced.
  2. The hosts express concern about viral clips being misinterpreted without context, especially concerning Derek Huff and Ashley Dupre, emphasizing the need for full show context to understand their humor and intent.
  3. They lament how entertainment content is being distorted by AI-generated clips and misrepresentation, leading to misinformation and unfounded online hostility.
  4. A personal milestone is shared—Jackson’s postpartum wedding ring resizing and the addition of a new band, reflecting on body changes and identity.
  5. Taylor Swift’s new music rollout is criticized for low-budget visuals and a confusing strategy, with fans questioning the authenticity and artistic direction of the "Life of a Showgirl: The Encore" album.
  6. Ella Langley’s record-breaking 23rd week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 is celebrated, though the hosts note it has no direct connection to Taylor Swift’s strategy.
  7. A surprise photo of Meghan Markle with Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi in the Cotswolds is shared, sparking discussion on her reintegration into UK social circles.
  8. Fashion commentary highlights the shift in Kim Kardashian’s style under Law Roach, with praise for a more grounded, professional aesthetic and a cultural shift in fashion influence.

Summary:

The hosts of The Toast reflect on a wide range of cultural and personal topics, beginning with a humorous critique of the high cost of a premium pedicure, which leads into a deeper discussion about how media content—especially viral clips—is often misinterpreted without context. They express concern that clips from their show, such as the one about Derek Huff, are being taken out of context and amplified by AI-generated content, fueling misunderstandings and online hostility. The conversation extends to personal milestones, including Jackson’s postpartum wedding ring resizing and reflections on body image.

They then pivot to music news, analyzing Taylor Swift’s new album rollout, which fans find confusing and underwhelming despite its commercial success, and contrast it with Ella Langley’s record-breaking No. 1 hit. The episode also touches on celebrity sightings, such as Meghan Markle’s recent outing with Ellen DeGeneres, and a commentary on fashion, where Kim Kardashian’s new styling under Law Roach is seen as a refreshing shift from past high-profile, trend-driven appearances.

The hosts emphasize that behind the viral headlines and flashy moments lies a deeper layer of context, humor, and personal truth that only those who engage with the full show can appreciate. Throughout, the tone remains lighthearted, critical, and reflective, balancing personal stories with cultural observations.

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Taylor Swift announced 'Patient Zero' with a low-budget, AI-generated cover photo that sparked confusion among fans. The image, featuring a gray, corporate aesthetic, was seen as a stark departure from her previous bold style and led to speculation about a new, stripped-down musical era.

The Life of a Showgirl: The Encore is a deluxe re-release of the original album, featuring four new songs. While marketed as a new album, it was revealed to be a re-release of existing content with additional tracks, leading to fan criticism over its lack of originality and perceived marketing strategy.

Fans were shocked by the low-budget, AI-generated photo used for the 'Patient Zero' announcement, criticizing its quality and lack of professionalism. Despite the aesthetic being described as 'showgirl-y,' many felt it was out of alignment with Swift's brand and creative vision.

The hosts questioned whether the release was a genuine artistic step forward or a strategic move to generate hype and streams. They noted the lack of new music content, suggesting it was more about maintaining momentum than delivering original material.

Ella Langley’s 'Choose Texas' has achieved 23 weeks at No. 1, breaking the all-time record and unseating Mariah Carey. This victory highlights a major shift in the country music scene and has sparked discussion about the competitive dynamics between female artists like Taylor Swift and Ella Langley.

A photo from a Texas Longhorns game shows Miranda Lambert, Zach Efron, Miles Teller, Glenn Powell, and Michelle Randolph together. The hosts note this as a rare and unexpected gathering, highlighting the personal connections among these celebrities and their shared ties to Texas culture.

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