O's Perlman, known as the "Mentalist Frisbee," shares insights into his craft of mentalism, explaining it as a blend of psychology, observation, and performance rather than supernatural ability. He emphasizes that his skills stem from early-developed pattern recognition and mathematical aptitude, not magic. Through engaging demonstrations—like correctly guessing a listener’s birthday from shuffled cards—he illustrates how mentalists use body language, memory bias, and subtle cues to create the illusion of mind-reading. He stresses that mentalism relies on human behavior, not deception, and insists on ethical boundaries, refusing to manipulate for personal gain. Drawing from stand-up comedy experience, he highlights how understanding audience dynamics and timing builds connection and credibility. The episode also touches on the historical roots of mentalism, tracing it back to cold reading and crowd work. Perlman’s new book, *Read Your Mind*, offers practical advice on self-improvement, confidence, and emotional intelligence, advocating for techniques like taking notes and studying interactions to build deeper connections. The discussion reveals a deeper truth: mentalism is not about trickery but about understanding human nature—making it both fascinating and accessible to everyday people. The show wraps with humor, personal anecdotes, and audience interaction, reinforcing the idea that mentalism is a skill rooted in observation, empathy, and authenticity.
We have got a wild episode lined up for you. I mean, O's Perlman, the mentalist just came in here and blew our mind and our pants. And we are skeptical of people like this. But the way we had our minds blown was, I'm like shaking over it. It's crazy, you know, like hopefully everyone who watches this is of sound mind. - Yeah. - Because if you're not, you're gonna really believe the Jews control the weather. Because it's crazy and all this with John Stamos on FaceTime, buckle up for this episode and Christycomedy.com. I'll be, I got shows on New Year's Eve, Count Basie, Red Bank, New Jersey, and then January 10th, Charles Town, West Virginia. I do stand by my performances, but they are not O's Perlman level. Catch me in Austin this weekend at the Comedy Mother's Ship, December 11th through 13th. 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I have to be that kid who's a pain in the ass. Like if your name's Andrea and you call her Andrea and she's like, I'm Andrea, I'm like, I hate that girl. - Right. - I had to be that guy and I hated it. - Right. - So long as time, you call me whatever you want, you call me Bill, I don't care what you call me. - Right. - But now what happens is people know my real name and then somebody will meet me and say it wrong and then they feel awkward about it. - But is this your name on your birth certificate? - Yeah, I didn't make this thing up, I'd be Chris. I wouldn't be honest, real talk. But yeah, but yeah, like I want an easy name. - Right, yeah, you're honest. - All my kids' easy names. - Easy name. - Yeah. - Yeah, I've answered to Uranus, yes. Now we have a nickname for you that Chris came up with and it was called the Mentalist Frisbee. - Yeah. - Okay, would that one? - Yes. - I never heard it before, but if that's what you want to lean in. - Say that way, Jewish people, we're very supportive. I love Jewish people here, but what happened? Oh, Joe DeRose is here. - Yeah. - But he, yeah, we'll get him in later. - Yeah. - Get some roach spray. - But we call the Yamaka Frisbee. - Yeah, that's a fun thing. - I'm not rocking the Yamaka, I'm like Jewish, but yeah, I, yeah, calling the Mentalist Frisbee, I love it. - We call it, well we got nicknames for all the people. We call the Asian people Eastern Hemmys. We call Jewish people Frisbee's. - We call Greek people Diner Monkeys. - We call, we call, that's an accurate depiction. - That's very accurate. - A good pony island if you're from Michigan. - Yes, yes, it's one of all Indians, the laser beams. - Yeah, we got a laser beam is strong. - Yes, that's a little, that's a lot for that one, but we have fun in here. - Yes, in here. - That's why when we spoke earlier, when you said, you know, you want to help us edit the stuff, we said, that's why I was specific. I said, not the content app content is out of control. Not content because we got it just, you know what I mean? If we want to call you the magic Jew, we just have to be able to do that. - I think magic Jew is my new official moniker. You have a trademarked, correct? - No, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I said, I would never edit you. - Right, right. - How could I do that? - No, no. - And what we don't edit us, yeah. Sometimes to our detriment. - Yeah, yeah. - So we got you in here, David Goggins. - Yes, my boy. - He gave you a big shout out here, learn to master the most powerful weapon, your mind. Now you spoke to yourself and we spoke, you said you were like an ethical con artist. - I mean, kind of. If you wanted to go into history of this whole thing, so 100 years ago, there's no mentalists, right? This whole thing didn't exist. There were psychics, and there's still psychics today, but it used to be more of, you know what a magician is? Everybody knows the concept of a magic trick. The social contract is, you pick a card, I find the card, you're not, you didn't sell your soul to the devil, you just slide a hand. So mentalism, it's this blurry line because it doesn't look like there's a trick going on. Most people don't think there's a trick, and so there's also all these other explanations, which has to body language, influencing misdirection, deception, statistical analysis. So what I'm doing is constantly a moving target. If you don't know how I'm doing this, hopefully you're very entertained, but it's a form of magic. It's not like I'm pretend to be supernatural or psychic. - But when you were a kid, could you feel like you could just use more of your brain than others? - So yeah, but I don't necessarily think that's what made me a mentalist. I think it's the same as anybody who might be undiagnosed ADHD, but I was very focused and very mathematical. I was like a little rainman, legit. Like I got a perfect SAT math, and I was 12. You're a smart kid. - But you're just throwing their underwear at me. It's pretty much what you're hearing. - Do you think you possibly brain was made in Shanghai? Is that possible? - I think China wasn't a strong back then. So unless AI and time traveled, I would maybe Taiwan, not to throw in some geopolitical stuff, but real talk, I would, like I count stairs, when I would be, we go to little seizures, I grew up in Michigan, and every time we get pizzas or at the grocery store, I'm like fricking like one of those savants. We ring up the stuff, I know, before it rings, what the tax is, like the 8.25%. I know how much it is. I know how many coins you're gonna get back. It was like straight up dust and off, man. - You didn't even have to practice this. You were born with this ability. - But I liked doing this to entertain myself. - Wow, that's very interesting. Would you consider like manipulation in some way? - It's a hundred, I mean, it's not in some way. That's 100% what it is. - Would you help me and Chris to manipulate our wives to convince them that it's okay for us to have Guma's? - I don't think I could. - Right, but Mathematically, what would be the probability if I could get you on the phone my wife right now and just convince her that it's okay that if I have a Guma day for the benefit of our family in my house? - I'm gonna say 10% chance I get you the Guma day, 90% chance you're divorced at the end of the call. - Okay. - So you know what, you miss every shot you don't take Chrissy. - That's what it is, yeah. - Why get into entertainment? You're obviously incredible at this, every clip I've seen, obviously we just had John Stamos on the phone. He said Howard Stern thinks you're the devil or something like that. - Right. - He doesn't believe he believes that you have special. - You gotta see shout out folks to see what I do with Howard Stern last week. - You really should see it. - Yeah, and then I saw the Rogan one. You know, my friends with Rogan and you guessed his piton number. He was visibly uncomfortable. - Visibly. - I don't know. - Was it 1776, was not the number? - It was, he said America. - Yes. - If I would have gotten that, that would be great. - Cause that's my piton number. I'll just tell you straight out. - Straight out. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So why not like, - Yani's is 69, 69. - Yeah, for sure. - That goes back into the Gumata conversation and there's no chance in me getting on the, but like a Greek guy, no chance. It's not a slight chance. - It's what it is. - Yeah. - Why not like work for the government or like the Masad? Why get in entertainment? - Some people think I work for the Masad. That's like half the comments after the Joe Rogan. - Well a guy who would work for the Masad, you'd say exactly what you just said. - Yeah. - And I've never denied it either. - Right. - You never said nowhere yes to it. So I just leave messing. - But I'm very curious like you know, it's not a power obviously, but it's a very refined skill that you could use for your benefit. Is this just a moral choice where you just go, "Hey, you know what? I'm not comfortable manipulating people for my own gain in a nefarious way. I just want to do a for entertainment." - I would say yes. That's exactly right. Because like I said, I'm not here to weigh in on whether psychics are real because it's just like not my thing. Maybe they're psychics. I've heard people that come up to me, tell me sort of how could that have happened. I'm like, first off, I wasn't with you. - Right. - So I know something very key, which is memory is malleable. You know this is comedians. - Sure. - You walk out of the room, sometimes the set and the way somebody tells you the Joe Rogan, I didn't tell the joke like that. That wasn't the structure at all. But the way they remembered is different than how you remember telling it because people's brains remember things that are highlighted. They give it as a book. If you highlight certain pages you remember and the rest of it, you're like gone. If you read this book and you get three key takeaways, this is one of the best books of the year. - So right. (laughing) - The way for us to emphasize other details in the story and get her to forget that part like, "Hey, remember the rest of the day, I called you six times." - I can tell exactly that. So there's a part that's not in the book, but how do you know if someone's lying to you, right? I am not an infallible lie detector, but I can give you a situation where if how, I would say that most people can detect if someone in their family is lying to them, they're kids, right? Far more and you're spasking when you're lying to you, far more than when you meet a stranger. Why is that? - Right. - Because they're aware of your patterns. So what do I mean by that? When you get polygraphed, if you're a lie detector, they don't just strap you in and start asking you questions, they do a bunch of tests to see, tell the truth. What's your real name, right? What's your birthday? Are we in New York City? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And then they have you lie. They go, tell me your name is Mickey Mouse. Are you Mickey Mouse? You go, yes. And they see how your body registers a lie when they tell the difference physiologically. So when people tell stories, you can see patterns of how many details do they give? How quickly or slowly do they speak, right? All of these things change when someone's lying because their brain is processing what they're gonna say next. Most people add a lot of extra details when they're lying. They're like, oh, I'm sick and I have this cough and I, bullshit, you just don't want to come to work right now. - Right. - Right, but other people do the opposite. So I. I don't have a one-size-fits-all approach, or I'd be freaking billionaire. I tell you how to always know when someone's lying. But I can watch someone observe them several times, and they go, I know they're lying right now. - Do you think you could pass a lie detector test being a mentalist? - I know for a fact I could, 'cause I've been tested a bunch of times. - And you just always pass. - No, I don't always pass, but I know how they work. - Right. - So I know what's involved physiologically and how you can, even if I couldn't pass, I think that I could have a result that's invalidated or how would I describe it. It's invalidated if they don't know for sure. - When I was in CHATGBT, I'm always trying to get out of stuff. I'm always trying to get out of everything, even when I have things going, good in my life, I'm just like, how do I get out of it? - Literally, I was coming to the podcast, Chrissy D's like, I don't know if we can do it today. - I can't do it today, I like to cancel things last minute, I pick up, I move. I'm always just trying to wiggle in, wiggle out, I got excuses lined up all day, you know? I mean, I just wanna, it's anxiety, it's social anxiety, I'm just trying to, our mode's wiggling. And so when I was trying to come up with certain lies to get out, I didn't wanna go to dinner with my friends, 'cause I was asking CHATGBT, which is more believable, and it's funny, you say that, because CHATGBT finally told me after like the third text I sent that they were like, he was like every, it said every time, I know you're lying because you're overexplaining. - Exactly. - He said the one that the CHATGBT said, what will be the most believable is one sentence. - Boom. - I cannot make it. - Yeah. - No explanation of what I'm going to explain. Raise it, and that's the one I sent, and a lot of times my boys give me shit. They're like, we know you're lying, you got excuses for days, like I just got a puppy. They're like, another building, excuse. And I'm like, all these things aren't true. But that specific text to get out of that dinner, I just said, boy, sorry, can't make it. Nobody said it, they gave me thumbs up. - Yeah. - No, where if I would've said, can't make it, jazz is, I got the kids recital, the dog shit. They would all, you know, all make and fun of me, all your allyer. One of my friends always say texts and you get mad. I'm like, are you gay? Like, where's God's? Like, and if you are gay, I am too. Just tell me where to meet. His name's Pat. - You've been waiting. - I've been waiting for that moment. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We were making the first move in that situation. - Pat's pin code is 4004004000. - Just through in the show. - Yeah. - That's what it is. - Because it's his cholesterol. - Yeah. - Who was the first guy who like started this? Like who started this? - I don't know who the, the start is, but there's a guy who's real famous named Theodore Annamen, who's in the like early 1900s, who kind of took the tools of psychics, like the way that a psychic comes in. And psychics do a lot of what's known as cold reading. Cold reading is, I mean, if you're doing crowd work for an audience, that's what you're doing. You're literally doing, you're looking at this guy's and fine, answer your this, you're that. You're like, you guys are from Australia. You're like, how the hell do you know that? Because you've literally been in front of audiences. Hundreds, if not thousands of times. Boom, sell or stand. Six sets a night, I know your world. And suddenly, you can tell who people are. It's not a magic trick, just 'cause you've seen so many other people like them. - Right. - Right? And so when you calibrate like that, and you can see, what's the wedding ring like? How's the body language between you and the person next to him? You know this guy hasn't proposed yet. They've been together seven years. You're about to lay into this guy. - Right. - Like what do you waste Christ's stuff for that? - That's true. - Yeah, nailed it. - Yeah. - Yeah, nailed you. - Yeah. - Like is this a therapy session? - Yeah. - Yeah. - My guess, yeah. - My girlfriend called you. - You can notice things about people. And also when you go fishing, right? Fly fishing, you feel when you've got a bite. You feel when you've got a bite. So a psychic always accentuates the hits and completely forgets about the misses. They might throw out three names. Be like, I can't tell if this is a Michael or a Maria or a Matthew, Matthew, because you see them light up. So you, and also the person with you in a psychic session wants you to talk to, they're not there to pay you a hundred bucks to like get it all wrong. Most people. - Wow. - So they're there with a vested interest in you doing this correctly. So this guy took those tools and started to combine the world of magic with the world of psychics and create this overlay of like, I'm not a psychic, but I can act like a psychic and I can start to read you in a way that sounds like, how do you know these things about me? - God, are you, there's also a big group of people that think that like magic and these, you know, was a big thing in the ancient world and then we just got away with it. We just did away with it and now like-- - Christians? - No. - But do you believe in any of that? Like this was very prevalent a thousand years ago and now we just don't believe in it anymore. - No, there's magic from thousands of years ago. Like there's a trickle of the Cups and Balls that predates most religions. - Oh, that's in New York. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Shell game. - Yeah. - That's it. - It's ended down from, you know, from the Greeks, baby. - Yeah. - Like most things. - Everything. - What it is. - So magic has been around since forever because people love to be fooled. People like to laugh. It's like a few of the archetypes. We like ever since I bet, you know, since we were cavemen. Laugh, you know, eat, screw, shit, and like, and like, oh, be amazed. Those are core tenants of like what we are to be people. - Now, how wild when you do these for black people, do they go wild? - I don't see color. I don't know what you're talking about. You know, I'm kidding. Yeah, they go nuts. - Nobody. It loves magic. - And that's a compliment. We're not even, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's just black people. - Like they were like to run out of the room and go. - Moves. - Yes. - Love it. - Yes. - Yeah, I don't get the same, you know. - Yeah. - White people have white emails usually. Yes. - I like the black response better. - Yeah. - Today, we will react like black people. - I'm gonna do that. (laughing) - Just do that. - You can do that. - And even though tricks go well, you have all these things. I said, "Edit later, these guys just freaking out." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's a little white motherfucker crazy. - Prank. - So basically, you're saying they say, "Don't judge a book by its cover," but you're basically saying, "We all judge a book by its cover." - Sure. - I think so. - We do crowd work. That's exactly what we're doing. And sometimes I will judge a conversation just based on a haircut. - Yeah. - If you got purple hair, it's gonna be a long day of a haircut. - Yeah. - You know what's interesting too, about I, you know, just speak specifically with, you know, I've been doing comedy now 15 years. The, it doesn't, it's not 100% of the time, but I would say in the beginning, when I first started, if I would like, I would always do a thing like, I'd guess somebody's name. - Yeah. - And then they say, you know, woman be like, my joke would be like, you know, her name, I'd be like, oh, patty, right? Your name's patty. And she'd be like, "No, it's Barbara." I'd be like, "That's the same thing as patty." And that would always get like a big laugh. But I've noticed more, like, it actually is a thing. More times now, I would guess like a year ago, I'd say, your name's patty, right? And she'd be like, "How'd you know that?" So that joke that I would have built in of like, oh, but when she would say it's actually Barbara and I'd be the same thing, I'm guessing the name, more percentage the right, the first time. - Which actually kills your joke. - Yeah, tag on it. - Well, then I'm it, why did I get it right? - Then I'd just go on Moe's Pearlman. - There you go. - I need to go with Elzo's Pearlman. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is your husband Pearlman? - Yeah. - Is there anything you could tell about us just from reading pattern so far? - Are we gay? - Yeah, like, do you know? - premature ejaculator. - That's true. - I mean, look at his sweatpants. (laughing) - Yeah. - Yeah, can you, are there things about us? Like, can you tell, like, all that guy's got anxiety, that guy's hiding something, that guy's got to cry? - I don't think it's a deep dive into your mental psyche. But let's say, let's say for a great example, I walked in here and we were coming in hot, right? Patrick's like, we gotta get in there. We're shooting the podcast and I asked you a question. I wanna make sure they know, 'cause people always tell me, oh, it's all rigged, it's all set up. I met Rogan in a minute before I walked in. I said, did you play sports as a kid? Is that right? I wanna make sure I said that. And you told me, yes. So we've, there's been some history here. How many sports did you play? - You're asking me? - Yeah. - Two, two. What are the two? - Basketball and baseball. - Which one did you play longer? - Basketball. - Okay, so typically I find that some of your best, I don't want to call it relationships, form in sports, not always. But if you were a big sports guy, in those years you're around those kids, there's history. You know what I'm saying? - Sure, especially if you played football at Penn State in the 1990s. - Yeah, there was that. (laughing) - Yes, yes. - Yeah. - Like, like, yeah. - Deep. - Yeah. - Yes. - What did it? - RIP Jopa, I'm kidding, it's not funny. This isn't funny, but it was funny. Okay, not really. - I got it. - So you leaned in more on the, like I said both, and you said basketball before baseball. So again, this is telling where he might have played baseball all life, but then he said, he said basketball first in the order with which he answered. - Sure. - Which, again, you're saying how do you pick it up, he gave the answer right there. So you go back to basketball, and I like to always visualize this, how many kids that you played basketball with? If I just had you take right down a list right now, how many kids do you think you'd come up with? Give me a guess of names right off the jump. Like I was a swimmer, bam, bam, bam. I could tell you like seven or eight kids, I swear. - Yeah, four or five. - Four or five. So out of that list of four or five, the visualization is one kid walks in the door right now, you go, you kidding me right now? What even up to bro? Like you have not thought of this person, right? Before me asking you to think of him in years, is that a fair assessment? - That's a fair assessment. If you guess this, I'm gonna react like a black person. - Okay, good, good. This is not possible for him. I brought a marker, and so could I have done research on you? So the first question is, - By the way, I just wanna say he pulled that marker and that clipboard out of the back of his pants. - Out of the, yeah. So right in there. - Yeah, so it's no. - It's only an answer. - There is no way that you could know. - You sure? - I guess I knew I'd be on this podcast, so what if could I have Googled? 'Cause there anyway, we could have known this. And then you even just said that off the top of your head, you came up with four or five people, right? Just that moment, just that moment. And you could have picked any of those, or any of those people. - That's right. - So I want you in your mind, not with your fingers, to count how many letters are in this kid's first name. And when you're done, just say, I got it. - Five. - Oh, so it's better if you don't tell me the number. It was more of like I got it, but that's totally fine. - Oh, sorry. - Sorry. - No, it just doesn't listen. - Yeah. (laughing) - He did this twice outside. - Yeah, he even with the amount of letters. - Literally, it's like a mind reading show and he just tells me the thing. - Yeah, yeah. - All right, five letters is fine. Don't worry, five letters, don't say it, but I don't know, five letters to pick from. Pick one, don't say it out loud. Just in your mind, think of one of the five letters. You got one? Something interesting, I don't know. Whatever you look at, get one. You got one. I think, I think Yani, just like almost like shooting a bullseye. Bam, did you think it was hilarious?
in the middle? - Yeah. - I thought you didn't even look, no, you say that, but a lot of times you go look this way. G, are you thinking of a G? - No. - I gotta go with this. - There's a G in his name? - Yes. - It's not grand, it's a close rise. All right, for those who are listening, keep your eyes closed, you gotta cover your eyes, cover your eyes. - Yeah. - I wrote it down, you saw Chris, is that correct? - And I had to look twice at that. - Yeah, make sure that it wasn't what I thought. - Yeah, so I've written this, it's not changing, open your eyes, open your eyes. Who, when you rewound back, basketball, back in the day, thought of anybody, what's his kid's name? - His name's Nigel. - Nigel. - Get the fuck outta here, dog. - What it is? - Yeah. - Get the fuck outta here. 'Cause how's that even fucking possible? - He said you played basketball, it's a black kid's name. - That's a British name, right? - Dude, it's a British name, how the fuck did you do that? - There's no fucking possible way that he couldn't know that. There's no fucking possible way, it's not possible. - He just did it. - Could we have looked this up somewhere online about you? - There's no way you couldn't, there's no way you could know. - How old are you, how old are you? You first met Nigel, give me a guess, how old were you? - Probably was seven, eight. - And how many years did you play basketball together? - Uh, probably three. - So you came up together, there's three. - No, we were friends for a year. - Do you know them two? - Yes, it's them. - Oh, so you know what, I would've said oh, maybe he's on Facebook, maybe there's some legacy data, how about this? How about this? There's four minute years. - There's no legacy data, I haven't spoken to him in a while. He's not really on social media. There's no way you could've known. - Let's imagine that's fucking nuts. - What it is, 'cause you and Nigel are sitting down, heart to heart, 10, 11 years old, right? You're playing basketball, and you're dreaming. You go, oh my God, who was your guy? Was it Jordan, who was your guy? Who was like the, okay, so Dominic, okay. So let's say you're talking basketball in the conversation shifts, you're sitting there with Nigel, and you go, yo man, who's the hottest girl in class? And everybody at your school, was there like in eighth grade, was there the hottest girl, was it very distinct? I feel like there was a few. - Yeah. - What the hottest guy, you told me you're gay, but you haven't come out yet. - Right, right, right, right. Yeah, there was the hottest girl. - Right, so there's always the hottest girl. So imagine this, see, he's not, he shouldn't say, he didn't really know who the hottest girl is. Imagine you say to Nigel, you go yo, you have a kiss to girl, and Nigel's like in a British accent, of course I have. No, no, and you say yeah, and you whisper in a Nigel's ear, you go, yo, do you know this girl? And he goes, I know this girl. And I want you to imagine yourself telling him the first girl you ever kissed, okay? Watch, he went like this. Now I'm standing by myself, was it Jenna, is the first girl you ever kissed, isn't it? (laughing) I don't get this dude. - It's wild. - I don't get it dude. - Yeah. - And don't understand how wild it is. - Yeah. - Like that doesn't make sense dude. - Yeah. - That's nice and positive. - What am I question for you? - That doesn't make sense. - Oh, I believe it, because I can see, but just be honest, is Gina Guy's name? - Gina, it is, it is, because then it's a girl, the first kiss you ever, it was a girl. He told me he was a guy. Was it Gina? - Gina, what? - It was Gina. - How? - Little wild though. - That is beyond wild. - Yeah. - What is your first memory? How old are you, your first memory? Most people are anywhere, they started like 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Your first memory tells what it was, your first memory is a kid, how old are you? - I could say. - Out loud. - You say the memory? - The first memory you ever remember your whole life. - So tell the story. - Well, how old were you? - I was 3. - And tell us that memory. - I, I, have you ever mentioned this before in the podcast? - I might have, but I don't, I don't wanna tell us. - I was remember being relatively like, had a cold on the couch. It was three, my mom was, went to go get me chicken soup in the kitchen. We had the TV on and I saw for the first time in my life, Dolly Pardon. - Yeah. - And it's the first time I ever went puing. - Wow, okay. - I mean, I didn't have, you know, it didn't work at my penis, but I remember feeling like, like this woman is so hot and I just like her boobs. - Wow. - I remember Dolly Pardon like at three years old. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I'm in the program now for that. - Woo! - Yeah, I'm in the program. It was hard in the paint. - Three. - Three years old Dolly Pardon. - Let's do this. - Let's keep going through your life. And that's a core memory, right? History, hyenas, let's do some of your history. - Sure. - I don't stop me. Try not to react, try not to do stuff that's gonna give away, watch him. So try not to give stuff away right now. But we're gonna try to go timestamps and you're gonna focus on each one of these years as we go and try to come up with memories. - Okay. - Don't say, that was three, don't say anything. I'm gonna keep going slow. Four years old, five years old, six years old, seven years old, eight, nine, ten, 11. So at each one of those steps, he was trying to think of something. At 10, he kind of blanked, he was a little confused. How many, I think I saw something, but I'm curious, when I said eight years old, did a memory come to your mind or not so much? - Not so much. - I think the memory you were most focused on was when you were five years old, wasn't it? - Yeah, yeah. - Maybe you're not sure the age, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. - I was around then. - I think I got it. Pat, what's he writing? - Take a look. - Okay. - He sound gay. - I think, close your eyes. I think it's like a parallel story. Where are the cameras, the cameras over here? Is it both those shooting, good, good, good, this one? Okay, open your eyes as you were making this up, as we went along and you thought of, I'm four, I'm five, I'm six and I guess five, it might've been five, six, I don't know, but it was just in that window of where you were like very, you were trying to, you were like, ah, you saw in your eyes like an awareness. What was the story that came to mind when I said to focus on one story? Not your three-year-old memory. What do you got? What was it when you were five? Tell me a little bit about it. - I thought of the very first time I felt like, oh, I like a girl. Her name was, tell the whole thing, her name and everything? - Yeah. - Yeah, I thought her name was Jenny, Puerto Rican girl, yeah, I just love Puerto Rican. - Yeah, it's just what it is, Jenny. - Yeah, that's crazy. - What the? - Mom! - Yeah, that's wild. - 'Cause you're not on the first 48 catching every criminal. - Yeah, 'cause why weren't you able to find the hostages? - 'Cause can you do a remote duty? What's my wife doing right now? - I mean, yeah, I liked a girl. I remember, you know, even now like my wife's Puerto Rican, Jasmine, she, it started with Jenny, because I always liked her, and you know, I remember feeling like, oh, this girl's so beautiful, running home, telling my mom, and you know, she never ever looked at me and ever, she always thought I was a nerd, but-- - Did she miss out on, did she miss out? - Come on, dude. - Come on, dude. - I mean, I was eating my boogers and missionitis class, but I do, that's wild. That is fucking wild. 'Cause I want to talk to about Raycon headphones. - Ooh, let me tell you something. Those are my favorite, favorite headphones. That's the ones I get. I like Raycon headphones, and I believe Rayjay, who I love some of his work in his videos. - 'Cause I would direct some of his films. - I like Rayjay's videos, and I like Rayjay's songs, and I like his sister Brandi, and now I like his headphones, especially the essential open ear buds. 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Featured products include compounded drug products, which the FDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness, or quality, prescription required, see website for details, restrictions, and important safety information. - Yes, I don't know. - Oh, it's just he just, I don't know. - Go ahead, sorcery. - Deca-cards, Deca-cards, yeah. Open it, open it, look at them, it should be shuffled, but you shuffled them gentlemen. - Why are these stuck together? - Don't ask. You know, it's a shame that Jews don't proselytize 'cause if they did, you could convert a lot of these. - You could convert a thing, I'd like, I really, yeah. - You're not that good with money, so you should come to our team. - That's true, yeah, I need your help. - So shuffle them up? - Yeah, look at them though, make sure these are legit. - Okay. - Now, normally right now, you'd be thinking car trick. Car trick means I'm gonna do some slight of hand. I'm not touching anything, right? You see this, I'm never touching anything. - I'm not touching my foot, but that's it. - That's it, that's him, that's Yani. He's got soft toes. - He does. - That's his thing. - Stop at the table though, you can't be doing now, we can't see what you're doing, shuffle 'em up. - Sorry, shuffle up, but, Jesus, this guy, drop and left and right. - Don't work, be covering 'em. - Whatever you want, don't care as long as it doesn't matter. - Okay. - Okay. - Shuffle 'em, turn 'em down, face down, and then, here's what I want you to do, you ready? Can I, I'm just gonna move the mics, you have space. And I want you each, okay? To, at the same time, you're gonna lift off kind of somewhere near the middle, lift off a piece about an inch, and I want you to turn it halfway, like, sideways, 90 ring, put it back on top. Anywhere you want. That feels good, that feels good. Square 'em up, and turn the other half at a funny angle, and mark it like a 90 degree angle, and put that piece on top, you feel me? - Yep. - We'll feel you dog, so like that, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful, square it up a little bit. - Okay. - I don't care, I don't care, whatever. All right, gentlemen, question for you, is that absolutely fair? - Sure. - Hear me out. Think about the craziness of this. You shuffle the cards, you cut anywhere you wanted, but think about how crazy this is, that you two even know each other. What are the odds, when you go back to history, that you'd even be born, right? Your parents had to meet, were you planned? - I believe so. - Maybe your dad's pull out games, we, who know? - 100%. - But the fact that you were ever born, from the day you were born. - Maybe he had money on it. - Everything that brought you together until this day that you two are now a team, working together. You're seeing, right? Now listen, I don't want to touch anything. Watch this, you each cut anywhere you wanted. What I want you to do is slowly, I want you to see how crazy the synchronicity is. Pick up the top half, yeah, lift it up. - Okay. - And I want you to look at this, turn and show each other the card you cut to, lift it up, and turn it over. So we can see, what was your, what was yours? Look at that, and look at yours, look at show each other. Hold on, eight of spades, eight of spades. Showing the camera this. Gentlemen, watch, not just that one. Hand me that card. - Just the eight? - Yeah, just the eight. And then I want you to look at the next card. Look, show each other in your next card. Insanity, right? - It's not. - No, wait, wait. - No, who do you work on? - Hold on. - Yeah. - And wait, it's gonna be the next one to hand me the two, hand me the two, and check this out. Look at each other. So you've got the next card. - What was your score? - Oh, that's, wait, hold. - Yeah, it's eight. - No, absolutely. - No, no, no. Maybe, hand me that one, hand me that one. Yeah, I bet the next one. You're hand me that one. In my hand, in my hand. In yours, in yours, that was it. Show each other, you got the next card. It's the same for two. - All right, give me that one. - Yeah. - Okay. - In my hand, face up, face up. Is that last one, I think I got back to it. Is that one the same? - What the? - Oh, different. - I hand it to me. - He's up to something. - You cut anywhere, put the cards down. You cut anywhere you shuffled anywhere, right? - Yeah. - And this was yours that you did. Here's the crazy part from the day you were born until today, something brought you together. - Right. - And Yani cut these. - Oh, crazy shit. - And I don't know if you see this, but you see what's on here, Chris? It says eight. - Yani, that's my birthday. - What the fuck, get out of here. - That's crazy. - Don't you get out. - Get out of here. - Day. - Get out of his room. - And eight, 24, 76. - You're an old fuck. - Fuck, get out of here. - That's Yani's birthday. - Get the fuck out of here. - Ha ha, yo, man, how? Yo, what would they do in 11 on Tim? When he gets stoned to death, yo, what would they do? Yo. - You have to leave here, sir. - That's wild. - That, how? - How? - That's nuts. How did you do that? - That's my birthday, cuss. - He somehow manipulated us to hand him cards that were our birth. - 'Cause you're a lot older than me. - Yeah. (laughing) - Wow. - How did you do that? - You can't tell us. - Now, you could only do a trick like that with guys, 'cause the women would lie about their birthdays. - That's true. - They would say, "Now I was born in '87 and I had 92, 92." - Yeah, that's a good one. - That's why, yo. - Never give away a woman's age. - Yo. How sick is that? - But did you, I never, I didn't think that he ever got it wrong to begin with. I agree with you there's up to something, but I could never think it was that. - The first one, I was like, ah, he fucked up. And then I saw it in his face and I was like, he's up to something. - Yeah, 'cause you know they're sneaky. And I mean, mentalists. - Yeah, mentalists. - I mean, when I took the Frisbee and I threw it, and I caught on my teeth. - That's right. - I had a laser beam right on your forehead, so you could really like, you could do things with this. You could really do things. - Now, I obviously know you won't tell us how you did, of course, but it does it all, at the end of the day, come back to math and probability, all of them. All of these can't even happen. - No, no, I mean, there's some of it, but now I wouldn't call it. I think that the key is being able to read people in a certain way, the same way that you do as a comedian. I watch comedians far more than mentalists. I don't even like mentalists. I'm a big comedy fan. - Really? - I used to live in the village. We used to go to the cellar. This is before the cellar had like 27 locations. Literally, just the main room downstairs. We used to go there two or three times a week. - Right, and you were doing it for fun and research. - I didn't even know at the time I was doing it for research, but it's like, my love is stand-up comedy. So I was doing it for just, I love watching it. I love watching it, and over time, I kind of process what's timing. When do you pause, what shows somebody who's great, how do you deal with the heckler effectively? Right, if you're punching down versus punching up, how do you get the crowd on your side? Because you've always seen the vehicle over the top on a heckler, and then the crowd turns against you. - Yeah, honest just punches them, even if they're a woman. - Even, yeah. - Look up the story from bar four, from 10 years ago. - Yeah. - Wow, uncancellable, this man. - He's real, yes. I mean, that, that, I don't know, because you know, the only other experience I had, I know you guys do different things, but I did something with David Blaine one. - Sure. - And what he did was, it was amazing, but it wasn't that. Like, what did he do? - He did, it was really more like writing numbers on the car, on a, on a card, and then I had that card in my pocket, and he was able to produce the card, like with the how I wrote it, it was, I forgot like how it got there, but I remember being blown away, but that's, I don't know, the, your birthday in cards is kind of nuts. - That's kind of, I mean. - Because, and Janus, as the Greeks do, he always takes a year off, so on with the pity that's not even his real birthday. - Yeah. - He always take a year back, deep cuts. - Deep cuts, he's 50, but he's, you know, 49. - Yeah, it's more of a Socrates play, if you know what I'm saying. - So you got it, for, you got a birthday gift for. - Yes. - So that's, it's so, are you ever tempted to do that? - You don't even know where I'm hiding, a gallon of Tatsiki on my body right now. That's my fault. Now let me ask you this, Tatsiki, can you do things, these are mind blown things, but like, could you make Nick's hair grow back? Nick, take off your hat. - Can you see that? Could you get that back for us? - I can make it grow mostly out of his ears and back. (laughing) - Yeah, no. - Nick, was this mind blown to you? - Yeah. - And your people call this Santaria, right? - Yeah. - Yeah, I just don't, to be completely honest with you, I don't know how it's possible that he guessed the name. - I don't, I don't even know how that's possible. - Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm being honest with the fans, like we're watching now, there's no way that, I could see, there's just no way, we didn't interact. - And you didn't even do your birthday, you did his birthday. - Yes. - You did each other's birthday. - That's what I'm saying. - Because from me. - Do you guys pee together when you went to bathroom, do you hold your shoulders? - Yeah. - Oh, I don't know how you do it. - Yeah, how do you face? - You got anything else? - That's it for me, I gotta leave you wanting more. - I know. - Show me. - Do you have live shows that you do as well? - I have a show coming up December 21st, I don't know when this is dropping. - No, dropping this on in two days. - Oh, Medford, Massachusetts. The Shavallier Theater. - I love that theater. - Yeah, got a few seats left. I don't know if there's any tickets left or not, but typically I'm different than you guys, 'cause I'm a corporate guy, I do a lot of corporate events, a lot of TV. - Yes. - Cause? - Lucy, hold on, I got a little Lucy asshole.
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I said that Jim Gaffigan because we both have five kids. Yeah. I know, dude. What? So just I know I know you got to get out of here. But like five kids. So do you do magic with the kid? I'm sorry. Mentalism stuff with the kid. No, magic. Like magic. Like my daughter is is they've seen me. I remember I was on before the Super Bowl biggest appearance ever in my life. And they're at the end of the thing. I'm like, you know, like the you know when the stress comes off, you have something huge that happened. What? Like the the dump of like, oh my God, the relief. It went well. I'm happy. It's over. Yeah. I'm FaceTiming my kids and like, dude, just don't talk so much. Just do the candy trick because I have a trick at their school where I just make candy appear. Like I light this thing bowl on fire. Right. And there's blow it out and it's full of candy. Like, dude, stop talking so much. Yeah. Do the candy trick. Yeah. As if they were giving me the right notes. Right. For me to take it to the next level. Oh, that's gonna be a I mean, I know, I know, you know, you're obviously very successful. But that's got to be an annoying part of being you. It's like people who know you probably come up and want you to do a trick. Shockingly not as much as you would think. Really? Yeah. Okay. I get completely sick of it. Oh. She was sick of it. Day one. Yeah. Day one. I did a trick. This used to be my move. Yeah. This is my move at the bar. Forget like guessing stuff. I had to move where it could loud bars. I can't be like, you get me think of the letter G. I somebody would have a drink and it's usually a mixed drink. They'd have a straw in it. And I would say to them, I go, do me a favor. Just grab your straw and get through to like what? And I'm like, just twirl your straw once around the glass and let go. And it would just move one more time. Like when you let go, the inertia goes once more. I could see how you just did that when you let go, it kept moving. And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, watch this. And I would just look at it. And I go like this in my finger and the straw would move around one more time. And then I'd snap and it would shoot out of the drink. Wow. That's amazing. Pany dropper. That was my move. Yeah. Yeah. I did that for my wife the first time I met her. She's like, go get me another straw. Yeah. Kryptonite. She's immune to my power. And being just, you know, a Jewish man, you say she's Jewish too. This woman's going to this woman is going to step up my balls. This woman's going to make my life really hard. I want to marry her conservative. She's like, I need another straw. Yeah. No, not a big spender. You married the right one. I did. Are you done after five kids? Yeah. We're, I think we're celibate is what she's discussed. It's like it's like a Puerto Rican woman. I'm not even allowed to touch her at this moment. I think she thinks I can transfer sperm through my hands through her nose. So yeah, we're, uh, she's closed up shop officially. Even though I have one more space in my car. So I'm like, we got eight cedar. Hey, yeah, we can ask UV. We could do this. Yeah. Uh, is the book a good read just for people to obviously the book is not going to read. It's good for you. If you're in sane ADHD like me, I'm the audiobook guy. I, I, it's my voice. So I tell all of it while reading it. So I actually think the audiobook is a great value because I'm going to capture. If you like hearing me perform, you're like, "This book will not teach you one mentalist." And it's your voice doing the audiobook. Yeah, that's great. So now I'll, when I'm driving home, I'll know I'll be hard. Yes. So doggie says, like learn to master the powerful weapon. So it's a good to read just because you're going to learn about your mind. This book is, here's what this book is. I want to explain to you. It's all the lessons I've learned throughout my 30 years of doing this as a career. And this is a very weird career. And I have, you know, you can judge for yourself where I'm at in the pecking order, but attain the highest levels of what I do, mentalists in the world. I firmly believe that if tomorrow you told me I can't do this career anymore. Do something new. Start from square one. And you tell me, how would I be a massive success at anything else I try within a few years? I would use these exact skills to fast track my success. It's skills and habits for success. It's how to walk into a room and instantly captivate everybody and become the most memorable person you leave. All of us have a level of confidence from being around people that 95% of the population doesn't have. You take it for granted. You just did it from so many reps. How can you give someone else confidence fast? Instead of taking 20 years, I wanted to take two months and you'd walk into a room and feel like you own that room, right? And so many people are fearful of rejection. I have a chapter which sounds so silly on how to take notes. Taking notes has been the secret thing of success in my life. When I walk in, I meet everybody. I know his name. I know his name. I know all your names. We know stuff about you already. When I meet you again, it's like a magic power that is like, "Oh my God, Chris, how you doing?" And I'll remember everything we talked about. I don't remember it. I just wrote it down and I studied it before I met you. And so that allows you to make people feel seen, heard, understood. None of this is rocket science. It's things that are practical, takeaway, and advice that you'll start doing today. And if things work out well, you will still be doing these things 10 years from now and say, "Wow, I have achieved the level of success in your personal life and your financial life." How do you know when to ask your boss for a raise if you work in corporate America? Right. How do you? You deserve it. You've been working your butt off the last six months, 12 months, 18 months. You're trying to build the case effectively of why I'm a value to this company. When do you approach them? I'm going to tell you exactly when do you approach that person to have the highest chance of success? Is that mentalism? I don't know. It's core skills in life. But what do I do for a living? I read people all the time and how they behave and try to influence them. So let me give you some of those tactics and skills to use in your life. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to listen to it. Yeah. Yeah. I got a question for you that I'm very curious about. Have you ever, I'm sure you have. So tell me about it and then answer if you have. Have you met people who you can see they kind of have the skill too, but you know what they're doing? And you're like like a mentalist. It's like a lower tier mentalist. Like someone, no, someone, yeah, someone manipulating you. Not even a mentalist, but someone who's really good. Sure. Annipulation, reading, patterns, sales, sales. And yeah, and you're just kind of one step ahead of them. Sure. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's like when somebody tries to negotiate tactics with you, right? They do negotiation tactics and you go, ah, you can tell the power dynamic. Right. Like a big part of this book is, I don't want to sell too much is when I was 14. My first gig was I'd go to restaurants. I walked to a restaurant, never drive a license. Sweet talks my way into being a strolling magician. I went table to table and would mingle and do tricks for people who didn't want me there. Right. And that's like the school of hard knocks. Man, that's the open mic for you. That's for me. And I'm even worse because I'm like 14 and it's like, who is this kid? And even people went to a comedy club. For this, people are having dinner. They got babysitters. I like, who the hell are you? Right. So I learned right from there how to overcome rejection, which is the superpower of every entrepreneur you've ever seen. Everyone has gotten [BLANK_AUDIO]
Projected comedians too. That's one of the big things. It is it's the people that falter you probably met people that are so damn funny And they went back to a day job me like what happened to that guy so damn funny He couldn't stick with it He couldn't pass pass through the five years the ten years to become funny and to also get over the rejection because the Beginning weeds out. It should weed out more people God help me have seen some of you that like why don't they have less of a Thick skin and tick-tock. Yes, yeah, less people so I think that that's one of those skills where what to answer your question I like to watch the people that have natural charisma and see was it natural It's like I had friends in college had great game. They like pick up girls. You're like how This guy's not even good looking. What the hell? How's a six with the nine? Yeah, how's this happening? Yeah, so I'd watch and observe and see like what was it about them that they did how did they approach somebody? I learned when I was 14 years old that if I walk up to you eye to eye to eyes walk up to you like this It's intimidating, right? You know why because when it's the same with animals if you look certain animals in the eye directly They freeze and they attack right you need to have a certain way you look at them one eye is less is less anxiety producing So if I walk up to your table at an angle and immediately set a time constraint I go I only have one minute, but I've got to tell you about something very exciting. Yeah, who's only here for one minute? Right? It's not like when's this guy gonna go away. He's also one foot in one foot out I walked up to you like this like I'm about to leave those little tactics You don't realize it, but they make you comfortable in a moment Yeah, and it's the same as when you go on stage sometimes you're loud, but sometimes what if you get quiet? Yeah, the audience draws in and gets quiet with you Those are tactics that you've learned over years that people can be told right now and start using today Yeah, I always say like, you know when people like my daughter is 10 my oldest one is 10 and she's always saying like she asked me the other day Just random and she was like, oh dad. How do I be funny teach me how to be funny? And I said you know what honey? I don't know that I'm necessarily funny I think the thing that I have is what I've not funny. Yes, exactly. I've seen special She was I said like ability and charisma are the things that will take you further in any career If you're likable and charismatic, and I said kid and Chris you're fun No, no, but no, but I even I feel it's about myself like I'll see some of my peers who are much much much better joke riders than me like not I can't even possibly even try not to say I'm a real seriously Yeah, yeah, I had to I had to do the roast to the Jersey Shore last week and Sam was one of the texts. I said now because he's such an unbelievable joke rider, but I was like So you know you realize like somewhat not him Sam's likable as well But other peers of mine are like they're so good at writing jokes, but they don't have much like ability or charisma And then they go fall flat with the crowds. Yep. It's like you got to have it all in a career You know outside of comedy just public speaking. It's like even our leaders like you can you know take the two opposite extremes Trump and mom Donnie Right, yeah, they're both likable right there fan base you may not like them But it's like they have such like a billion charisma. Yeah, even though they differ completely politically and people hate them on either spectrum For whatever reason, but it's like like a billion. You're not get you're basically not getting voted in by the people politics Comedians mentalists unless you have like a billion charisma. It's the number one most important thing I don't even know if I'd say like ability because like people are hate them. You have to connect on an emotional level Right, so it's like some people you might not like them, but you can't you can't look away right Right, and so and nothing on an emotional level is very different than somebody you don't feel invested in Right sports team once you're invested you feel with that team. Yes. You don't know them Just because they're wearing mixtures. You were in mixture. What the hell's that matter? But you feel some connection on emotional level and that's been the secret to my success And that's what I talk about here, which is mentalism didn't really pop in this country for a very long time In fact, if you could tell me how many other mentalists can you name? I don't know you can maybe you can't David Lane's you know, there's an Australian guy. Well, there's like some Australian guy who was a mentalist. Oh, that was the TV show The Mentalist. Yeah, yeah, that he was also solved crime and he was fictional, but yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris. Yes, yes, yes, the British. That's that guy. The British guy. Uh, Darren Browne. Darren Browne. Phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah, he that's that's like he is the guy there. He is a list celebrity there. He's been known there forever. Right. Right. But just connected on an emotional level with the crowd. Right. And so I'm saying you have to captivate people. You have to create that spectacle. David Blaine has done it. Obviously, David Blaine's the mentalist. Yeah. Well, he's more magic and endurance stunts. Right. He does a little bit of this, but it's not like like I don't really do magic. Even here when you did this, this isn't a card trick. I didn't find your card. I didn't even do anything to cards. You were cutting. You were in charge of it. Everything was you. And so that's kind of the things that connect with you on an emotional level. Yeah. That's a question for you. Go, of course, have to ask you are aliens coming. Do you believe in them? Are you one of them? So I watched this movie, Age of Disclosure. We watched it too. And it was a whole nothing murder at the end. Unfortunately, it felt so good. But it's like, I've seen it. I've seen it. Yeah, show me something. No, I can't show you anything, but trust me. Yeah. It's like my dick is 12 inches long. If you measure from eight inches inside my butthole. You're a tiny guy. You're a squeak. So that old movie. Again, it's it's very circumstantially very convincing, but like show me the 4K HD. I don't see this and this. Like on a screen that this big that looks like it's from 1982, a TV that I had for. So again, I'm. Do you believe it? Do you believe that in Alien? Like do you think that there's life on other planets? Do you think the UAPs have been here? Do you think they're telling the truth? I think I think the most credible scenario ever played out was by Christopher Mellon and Joe Rogan, where when he explained exactly what you would do, given the timelines of the universe, is that if you were an alien civilization, which without a question there has been. It's been billions of years. The ridiculous so many planets. Of course there are. Like it's I think the opposite is an absurd statement for anyone to think we're alone in the universe is literally almost stupidity. Right. But are we alone now that you're missing it? It's about time in 14 billions years. There could have been literally if there was every million years. There was an alien species that still do the math on that. That still means there was like 15,000 species that have or left and still been in that million years is so much longer than we've been around. Right. I think that if they had sent craft to come in here, they would have put drones that come out of the ocean because the ocean on the bottom is the most stable surface on the whole planet. There's no ice ages, there's no nothing. That's the place to put them. And then they come up every now and again, they check shit out. They probably have drones or artificial intelligence inside. They look at things that come back down. They report back. I think that's very plausible. Right. But why is there been no contact? Why is it always like a drunk guy with a shitty iPhone? Why is nothing clear? I want to see you guess one of these aliens birthdays with cards. I'm going to guess an aliens pin code and that's what I'm really going viral. All right. Good to have you, man. Oh, I'm going to go read it. Thanks. And now we're in and now we're friends, right? I think so. Come to the county seller. Watch us. I can't get in anymore. I got you. Do you got me? I always guy. I always I used to look at the front and I know him, but I don't want to like power play. And be like, do you know why outside Steve? The guy always has a bug's bunny carrot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's still there. But you you text me because I'm like, we're in the I'm like, come on, buddy. The fellow Jews like nothing. There's no love. No, yeah, yeah. I used to know that we love all times. Yeah. All right. I'll do it. That was awesome. Maybe one day I'll get passed at the seller. That will be the problem. God know with there's too many people doing comedy. Stick to your goddamn mentalism. He's a shit. Don't steal my job. All right, guys. Just got our minds blown by Ols Perlman. Hope you enjoyed the episode as always at the end of every episode. We read out the names of the newest members of the matriarchy who went to patreon.com/history hyenas and join the fun. Not only do we have bonus episodes up there in their entirety completely ad free. You can listen to our YouTube ads, YouTube episodes ad free. You can listen to bonus episodes. We now are even doing even more content over there. We've added a little segment. We like to call under the covers where we tell you our deepest darker secrets and we lay on a bean bag touching elbows. Snowstorm. Yeah. So welcome to the matriarchy. We got Luke Ryan or Nick Gerson. Then we got day shift stripper. Keep your hips and nips away from my chips and dip. I'm just trying to eat lunch. Okay. Then we got ten. Terry two nuts. Terry two nuts. How you doing? Checking finger like that. Yeah, let me get it. Let me get a little barbecue sauce with that. Jonathan Roland. Then we got Chernobyl monkey living in the mitten. It's funny because we were talking about Chernobyl yesterday. Kids reading our mind. I mean, oh, it was, it was, it's always been post-perlman. Mom Donnie wears his towel up top like a frisbee. Okay. Dr. Eeks, K. Jarring Augustin, squeak genocide advocate, J K Joe Rogan can stay. Ways on she ain't dragsler. Dave and Nava, Yannis poppuses Papa came in his mama. Okay. Okay, it's a fact. It's a logical. Yeah, good word play. Mike P. Sloppy McFloppy. Franks and Deans D. E. I. Harrier was Franks and beans, baby. Bill Clinton tapped Bill Clinton tapped it on Trump's tongue. Yeah, that was. Yeah. Oh, yes. The room. Right. Brista Stefano. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Andrew K. Landon Wells. Matt. Manhandle my hand candle. Okay. And he has a question mark. I'm. That's a Drexler. That's funny. Rated Ellie XX. Eric. Eric Trucco, John Rock, Kyle Cole, Ivan Kanales, sad scientist, H. Foley's pen poked pork belly smack down. Five foot seven and 240. A. K. A. The gut is tremendous. And the place is lost in the matrix. Sorry. A. K. A. And the piece is lost in the matrix. And I'm stuck in my mom's basement. about the list. Okay. And that's how powerful you need.
was you were a victim of a bad read and you still made the list that is hilarious. Nick Terrone, Tony Soprano's nostrils, list, a Drexler. Okay. Good. What? Omar De Cartel, love, okay, love a G love Agandule, cutie with the booty, but been wanting to get under a muzzle, mu mu big, gonna go peeing when mayor uber jockey turns them in. It's it's one of the longest ones I've ever had, it's a tough one. What they do with the other two fifths, three fifths, I don't get it. Three fifths a man, okay, okay, Mexican Coke, no ice, very good. You're gonna have to put that on the list, okay. And that's what you call a contender, that's a chicken finger contender on the list. Chicken finger is the hardest, yeah, if you make it on the list, just with a quick zap, that's hard. Also, victim of a bad read get on the list is hard, so we got two neck and neck. We got two really good ones. Yeah. You got this is like one like a 14 seed mixed with sweet 16, you know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. Then we got Brady Gibson, Oliver S. Nicholas Clizer, Thomas Wolf, contractor, bag suffocation, AK muzzle face sitting. Glad 14, hey, wait, to give me that one again, contractor, bag suffocation, AK muzzle face sitting. Is that waterboarding? Yes. Yes. It's a good try. Waterboarding. All right, it's a joke. All right. Alexandros Kirkoulos, Stavo de Apulos, AK Lil Stamos. Wow. Yeah. That is a Greek. You got the diner award. Yeah. Matthew Dunn, Will Perry, taking Leroy's, so I finally have to strengthen to leave my family. Yeah. I mean, it's a borderline walk, did it one, but it's so good it's going on the list. It's a Leroy's. It's funny. It's in the lease. Strength to leave my family so it all plays in nice. Oh my God. That had layers. Yeah. That had layers. Oh my God. Colonel Brett Mooton, Father Bill's $9 bill. Wow. It's kids at home all three times. Yeah. Matt sat on her chest because she woke up the boys, but we can't do that. We had that. Yeah. Can't she walked into one? Can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not even funny more because she took out her fakes. John Curtis, Tyler Nickham, and then we got Chrissy's dead Siberian Husky. No. Come on. That's my family. No. No. No. So we have to start, can someone start a market on Kalshi on whether Chris is going to keep that dog or will it be returned? Yeah. It's someone start a market. Please. Just what it is. Yeah. I want to gamble on it. You might see next Thanksgiving. Like, well, Chris is turkey kind of looks like a dog. By the way. By the way, the guy who started Kalshi is like the youngest billionaire ever. I know. I know. Young girl. Chris, it's your mother or true TV call. They changed the door locks. Okay. Okay. Jane girls. Oh, shame girl. Less like jealous. Okay. Okay. Nuremberg trials. AK Jews clues. Lab 14. Like blues. Clues. Tony put it on the walked into one list. I can't wait for us. We're going to do an end of the year. Walked into one list on our Patreon. That's going to be a fun episode. Michael Hanberg, Donnie T. Please build the UK. A wall. Major sandstorm. Way song. Walked into one. Also on the list. I mean, they're going to be some of our best. Donnie got W.E.B.T. Du Bois. Let's put it on the list. Okay. Oh, God. We did. It's a good one. Hard. Yeah. It's a good one. It's a walked into one, too. But put it on the list. Yeah. Donnie got Ringding Wigger. Way song she ain't. Okay. But I didn't say anything. I'm right. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah. James Sorrentino. Donnie got. Put the Ringding Wigger on the, on the, uh, walked into one list. Okay. Okay. Then we got use Venezuelan fishing boats for sale. Some assembly required. Last one. You know what? On the list. This list is power. Oh, yeah. It's really good. Uh, squanto's squeaky pox blanket company. I don't know. I've walked into one. This is the list. Tony. Tony. You got to get to work this. Yeah. Tony, you got to get to work. Yeah. Max Worderman. Then we got Jay Venisha. Let me sit in your lap. While you bang me with a strappy yibara. Okay. Really good Drexler. Drexler. Vol. Asian pirate. I fry airplanes. Put them on the walk. We have the funniest fan base on the internet. 20. It's just what it is. AD. Then we got Teddy Tuckbacks, uh, Adam Powell, just a few more here, uh, John Slater, Justin you can offer Britsman, Mike Hill here, fourth, a content. My Husky Archie is cooler than Josephine. No, she's not. Um, no, he's not. You got the chick. Tossed my salad. Call that a Mamdani Asterole. Pretty decent. I like that almost, almost deaf leopard sucks. It's one from Nick. Okay. Um, Echoris didn't fly too close to the sun. It was Jews. Okay. Ways on seeing. I did ask my Frisbee girl what she wants for Christmas. She said surprise me. So I did give her an oven. Glad for you. Tony get to work. Okay. Then we got trans kid who moved to Germany, call me trans fear. Okay. Richard Bia, gecko, big red, big red tie, aka Bubba's cum rag, Lance Campbell. Then we got Jose Fritz, I basement air B and B. Back in black, Leroy laugh factory, no tippers, but tipsy. Okay. He actually just wrote the N word. Let me see. I caught that one. Okay. Chimney sweeper aka my tongue's going in your ass. What about the little one? Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh, don't we got cause calling somebody who looks for us to Chimney sweeper is a 10s. What did it? Yeah. We got another one for the Lexicon. Yeah. Uh, she sweep your chimney. Yes. Um, how's Bulla's heavyway booster seat? Um, goofy glue gun guzzled gal, GW, Amy, take me back. Maybe that guy in the sauna was a doctor. Someone is really trying to get her back. Yeah. That's what it is. And he's just had, he, she walks through a gay trist. Yes. Uh, big mics. Wait, so you got a dress for that? Yeah. Why didn't you even catch that for a second? Yeah. Can you repeat that? Cause gay guys usually like the bag of the sauna. Amy, take me back, baby. That guy in the sauna was a doctor. So he was begging again. He just did it cause the guy was a doctor. He had to do what he had to do. Yeah. Amy, take the kid back. But it is a Drexler. He's Extendo Clippy Chaos, um, CMDR 76, who had a reeky roof, Scooby-Doo, or Chairman Mao? Okay. I named my rice cooker a little boy. Um, okay, Stanley Tucci touched my Gucci, um, uh, special K, ding with, bling, ping, turn, now I pay spousal support. He tried. Okay. Charlie Tong, walked into one and got dinged. Mm-hmm. I'll see Akam on my face, uh, the basketball player. Yep. Dane, the Toot, Brazil, Blue Torch TV, Edison, Rosario, Joe Liss, mouth tape, it's inside. So I'm going to Drexler it. But good one. Good one. Okay. Aiden, um, Feta, foot, fanatic, Winnie the Jew, which we've had, Siberian puppy. Why does the peanut butter taste funny? Very funny. Um, bow guarding a decent piece in my stink portal, Yas, BBF's big bone, F word, pill Cosby. We've had pill Cosby. Yeah. Josh Lowry, um, Wei Jean Dink, China's building space lasers for the Frisbees, and then last but not least, seeking congressional approval to hold one of those AOC cups. AOC C cups. Okay. Yeah. That gets okay. That gets okay. Yep. Uh, this is, uh, just so you know, I just want to say just so you know, there's a couple of people right in the midst. I won't read a Charlie Kirk one. Is that what? I just won't read them. Okay. Yeah. So just don't just know that that's a walk though. They're not more. Yeah. We, we, when people die, we don't like. Yeah, I'm just not reading it. I, but I will read ones about you, you know, saying you're coming on my wife's chest. Yeah. No, I won't read those either anymore. Okay. Here we go. Here's the name. One of the ones that stuck with me was one of those, it just, it was a bad, it was a Femari tree. Yeah. But it was bad. It was good one. Okay. Here we go. Um, so here's the list. W-E-B-T-D-Boy. Gotta keep it around. It means very creative. Yeah. Um, and then so that's it for that. Then we got, um, Mexican Coke. No ice. Keep it around. Uh, five foot seven and 240, AK. The gut is tremendous and the place, the piece is lost in the matrix and I'm stuck in my mom's basement. It's going to be funny. I'm going to dress for you any other day. It's just a strong list. This is how the game works. If you don't know the rules, don't play the game. Taking leeroids. So I finally have to shrink to leave my family. It's gotta stay around. Gotta stay around. And then we have Chimney Sweeper, AK, my tongue's going in your ass. We're going to chicken finger you. Wow. Okay. But Chimney Sweeper makes the lexicon. Welcome to the lexicon. Thank you for helping us with more saying. Sabrina the Hyena if you can add chimney sweeper to our lexical
that history hyenas is back dot com and just chimney super in the definition is people. Someone's going to tongue your ass off. Someone who tongues your ass off. Yeah, I mean, that's probably as big of honor as anything. So the list is W. E. B. T. De Boy, taking Leroyd. So I finally have the strength to leave my family or Mexican Coke. No ice. Okay. What's the first one again? W. E. B. T. De Boy. Okay, we're going to move that one to the walked into one list. Okay. Yeah. We're going to move that one to the walked into one list. Unbelievably creative. I mean, really, truly unbelievable. And look, it's just you're on with probably stronger names. This is just it's a tragedy because that belongs up in lights. So we got Mexican Coke. No ice. And then we got taking Leroyd. So I finally have to strength to leave my family. I mean, I don't know that we've ever had one as layered as that. Yeah, we're going to have to we're just going to have to honor Coke. No, a Mexican coke. No, nice. We're going to honor that. It's just unfortunate that you were. Yeah. This is the definition of Clyde Drexler, who would have had six champions. Yes. If you did not play in the era of Michael Jordan. And unfortunately, this is Michael Jordan. Yeah, calling it Leroyd's is just next level. And that's what I respect about Nick. Even Nick is overriding the latino vote and saying, you know what, what's fair is fair, taking Leroyd's, right? Taking Leroyd. So I finally have the strength to leave my family has to be the winner. It's just what we just has to be the winner. We got to play by the rules. So history. Hyenas is back.com. You can go see your name up in lights, taking Leroyd. So I finally have the strength to leave my family. You are this week's winner. I mean, cause it got if you're not at patreon.com. So history. Hyenas. I really don't know what you're doing. That's actually where we're putting probably the best episodes just because it's the only we keep getting ding left and right by YouTube. So all the no holds bar comedy is there. Or even if you just want to listen to our episodes with no ads, you get mad at us having to promote fricking all these companies. Go to patreon.com, search history. Hyenas and just see it. And join the community. They talk to each other in the chat. We hop in there. They create all those photos shops that we put on Instagram. You know, it's a well respond to you there. Yeah, it's just an insane community that makes you sane because everyone's there for a good time and you're away from all the negativity of the world. patreon.com/history. Hyenas. And most importantly, we love you guys. We really do. We do this for you.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
O's Perlman, known as the "Mentalist Frisbee," uses psychological techniques like cold reading, body language analysis, and pattern recognition to create the illusion of mind-reading.
He emphasizes that mentalism is not about supernatural powers but about human behavior, misdirection, and statistical probability, blending comedy with real-world psychology.
Perlman credits his success to innate abilities like pattern recognition and math skills, developed early in life, rather than supernatural talent.
He openly rejects manipulation for personal gain, stating his work is ethical and focused on entertainment, not deception or control.
The show features a live demonstration where he correctly identifies a listener’s birthday from shuffled cards, showcasing the power of observation and subtle cues.
He explains how people’s brains remember stories selectively, leading to false memories and enabling mentalists to create convincing illusions.
His approach is rooted in stand-up comedy and performance, where understanding timing, audience reaction, and human behavior is key.
The episode highlights the intersection of mentalism, psychology, and entertainment, showing how these skills can be both powerful and deeply human.
Summary:
O's Perlman, known as the "Mentalist Frisbee," shares insights into his craft of mentalism, explaining it as a blend of psychology, observation, and performance rather than supernatural ability. He emphasizes that his skills stem from early-developed pattern recognition and mathematical aptitude, not magic. Through engaging demonstrations—like correctly guessing a listener’s birthday from shuffled cards—he illustrates how mentalists use body language, memory bias, and subtle cues to create the illusion of mind-reading.
He stresses that mentalism relies on human behavior, not deception, and insists on ethical boundaries, refusing to manipulate for personal gain. Drawing from stand-up comedy experience, he highlights how understanding audience dynamics and timing builds connection and credibility. The episode also touches on the historical roots of mentalism, tracing it back to cold reading and crowd work.
Perlman’s new book, *Read Your Mind*, offers practical advice on self-improvement, confidence, and emotional intelligence, advocating for techniques like taking notes and studying interactions to build deeper connections. The discussion reveals a deeper truth: mentalism is not about trickery but about understanding human nature—making it both fascinating and accessible to everyday people. The show wraps with humor, personal anecdotes, and audience interaction, reinforcing the idea that mentalism is a skill rooted in observation, empathy, and authenticity.
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O's Perlman's real name is Chris. He uses the name 'O's Perlman' because his parents, first-generation immigrants, told him it was how the name was pronounced in Hebrew. He initially disliked the name but now embraces it as part of his identity.
People often call him the 'Mentalist Frisbee' or 'Magic Jew.' These nicknames reflect his profession and cultural background, with the latter being a humorous, self-deprecating label he accepts and enjoys.
Mentalism involves reading people's thoughts and behaviors through body language, misdirection, and pattern recognition. Unlike traditional magic tricks, it doesn't rely on visible sleight of hand, instead creating the illusion of psychic ability.
He doesn't claim to believe in actual psychic powers. Instead, he uses psychological techniques, such as observation, memory bias, and pattern recognition, to create the appearance of mind-reading.
Yes, mentalists can identify potential lies by observing changes in speech patterns, such as over-explaining or adding unnecessary details. They also notice inconsistencies in stories and body language, especially when people are lying to close family members.
Skills like observation, pattern recognition, and active listening are crucial. These abilities help build rapport and make people feel seen, which he applies in comedy, conversations, and personal relationships.
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