Overtime – Episode #727: Gov. Wes Moore, Chris Cuomo, Sarah Isgur
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Governor Wes Moore of Maryland addresses several pressing issues during an HBO podcast episode of *Real Time with Bill Maul*. He announces a ban on state government employees participating in prediction markets, arguing that such markets are irrational and prone to manipulation or unethical betting—highlighting a discrepancy between public polling and market predictions. Moore emphasizes the dangers of unchecked financial speculation, citing a soldier who won $400,000 on a bet related to Venezuela’s political transition and criticizing political figures like Donald Trump for framing the world as a "casino." He then shifts focus to public safety, noting that Maryland’s violent crime rate has dropped nearly 50% due to strengthened enforcement and accountability, not increased penalties. He also discusses screen time limits in schools, promoting education over digital distraction, and introduces a program to retrain fired federal workers into teachers to address a critical teacher shortage. Moore stresses that while the death penalty is not effective as a deterrent, the social message it sends is harmful. He concludes by urging parents to prioritize in-person learning and personal values over screen time, calling for a return to grounded, community-based education. Throughout, he positions himself as a pragmatic, values-driven leader committed to public safety, equity, and accountability.
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I know why they asked this because you just made a move on that, right? I sure did. Yeah, we just signed an executive order banning anyone in Maryland's state government from doing any type of predictions market data. And it's really for two reasons. One, specifically on the predictions market, prediction markets, it actually is ridiculous. So, for example, if you look at the most recent polls that we have seen, we're at around 57% to proven rating, one of the higher numbers for any governor. If you look at the prediction markets on the probability that I'll win re-election, it's coming in around 97%. Right? So, what was keeping me or my family from saying, you know what, we have an idea. Let's put a $250,000 bet that I won't win re-election. And then I just basically tank it in. I stop going to work. I go to my debate and I start stripping naked. That's my back smile. I don't know, it's just good. And then I quit. And then someone else wins. And now I would walk away with about $4 million. So, you made this executive move. Was there any pushback in the state from anybody? I don't care. I know, but it was there. I mean, who can defend? I mean, who can you defend? I don't know. I was thinking someone in the government is like, "But I want to do it." But I have an idea. I mean, it's just great. And it's just like, it's ridiculous when you think about the type of grifting that goes on. Well, it's on the heels of a whole bunch of others. And yes, today, this was in the news. A soldier who was involved in the operation to get Madero out of Venezuela, which was a success, by the way. Yep. OK, we got to give success, success. OK, he bet on it. Yeah. He won $400,000. And they asked Trump about it. And Trump said, "The whole world, unfortunately, has become somewhat of a casino." No, wait, no irony. No irony when he said it. Because he used to have casino, I know. But he's not wrong. The whole world has become a casino. Yeah, because he's making it. Yeah, well, he certainly has contributed, yes. Contribute it. Well, well, you think if Polly Market wouldn't exist, if it wasn't for Donald Trump, I think it would anyway. I'll tell you what, this is absolutely exist. OK. And I want to know if there's any chance that you're not going to run, by the way, because I will put in a bet right now. Because that's the way the corruption works these days. It's right in your face. I don't want to see this soldier be the face of this problem. Of course, what he did is wrong. That's easy. You're making billion dollar oil bets. Oh. Minutes before the president makes an announcement. And no one on the right says anything except Anna Polina, Luna, and two or three others who should all be paralyzed for this, in my opinion. The corruption is so in your face, yes, what this cat did was wrong, OK? And he's going to suffer. But he should not be the face of the problem. And people in Congress who are yapping about him, when they said nothing about these other things, are the worst. And when their trading stops, and they won't even have a vote on the bill, they won't be worst. They won't be worst. We have a passable tomorrow. Tomorrow. Congress could pass a lot tomorrow doing what you did. Right. They could pass a lot tomorrow, preventing themselves from trading stocks. They're not doing it. They're not even bound by the employment discrimination laws that they've passed for everyone else. And we don't hold them accountable. We're just like, oh, I guess Congress just puts out press releases and holds hearings. And we fight over Jerry Mandering. Like, put the pressure where it belongs. Not on the courts of whether they're going to uphold or strike this down. That is a statutory question, which means it's up to Congress. How many people, if you did a survey, would even know who the Congress person is. One guy applied. I didn't even know what I didn't know if it was that I do, or it was like, yeah, you're right, Bill. I don't know. Well, their new approval rating is at 10%. And I would love to meet someone in the 10%. Who's like, yeah, they're crushing it out there. It's them. It's them. It's them. It's who it is. It's them and the donors. You know, maybe not that's who it is. All right. What does the panel think of the DOJ bringing back firing squads for execution? That's why we love overtime. It's just questions I would never ask. But this is what people want to know. People want to know. We're bringing back firing squads. I think there is a great argument. First of all, it doesn't violate the Eighth Amendment because we had versions of this at the founding. It's better. It's better. I actually think that what we have done, and we've done this in all parts of our society, we have sanitized our language. We have sanitized everything so that we don't actually understand that we are putting people to death by the government. Right? I actually think that's okay, but we shouldn't sanitize it. We should do a firing squad so that people know what we're doing. Well, okay. If you're going to do it, do it efficiently. A firing squad, they're dead in a second. That's right. What they do now is this chemical thing where they first, they kind of just put you out. You know, you're just the Nora Jones music is playing. It can take close to it. It's like a spot. Right. It does really. And then half the time, the shit they put in, you doesn't work. It takes a really long time to put someone to death. We have people watching it. It's not. Yeah. What? Can you offer a different perspective? Yes. Please. While we're all lining up to shoot people in the head, I'm just saying if you're going to do it, that's the way. I think that there's an aspect of the death penalty that should matter, which is what is the social instruction? And I think that the reason they're doing this is that this administration is very embracing a brutality. He has a very misplaced sense of macho, this president. And yeah, we're just going to shoot you in the head. Is some kind of attempt to be tough. And it's not tough. It's weak. And I think these kinds of instructions, you know, look, this is the same story for all of our families. My family came to this country because they thought it was a place that was going to be better. That was beautiful for opportunity, where they would have a chance, where they have to worry about the oppression they had at home. That's not what we are with these kinds of things. If you want the death penalty fine, it doesn't work. Okay, it doesn't deter crime. It does, but it gives an instruction that death is okay. That murder is okay. Killing is okay. It's not murder, technically. Killing is okay. I think the social instruction matters. I think when you're saying, yeah, we'll just shoot you in the head. I think it's cheap and something that should be the highest value. Where are you on the death penalty? Where is it in Maryland and where are you personally? In Maryland, it's banned, inside of Maryland. But I do think it is an important point, because when people are talking about the death penalty as an idea of a deterrence, the reality is it's not. There's no data that shows that this is a deterrence for how people are going to behave or how people are going to act. But it does create a bigger thing about how are we thinking about this value? How are we thinking about what it is that we hope for and what it is that we're aspiring to? And I think about it in context of this, right? When I first became the governor, we had an absolute violence crisis within our state. I mean Baltimore City was averaging almost a homicide a day when I first became the governor. And I said I was very clear that we were going to have a different type of approach that we made historic investments in local law enforcement. We made historic investments and we made Maryland one of the only states that actually helps the fund the U.S. Attorney out of balance sheet. So if a person commits a violent crime, particularly with a firearm, I'm going to have them handcuffs on 24 hours. And we're going to make sure that crime, especially if it has is a firearm crime, we're going to help to make sure that goes federal. And if you look at the results, we've now seen how the violent crime rate in Maryland is down nearly 50 percent. It's the fastest drop in the entire country. The last time, the last time the homicide rate was this low in Baltimore City, I wasn't born yet. The reason I bring that up is this, we did not increase the severity of the punishment. We increased the probability. We made sure that you know you wanted to get there and be violent in our communities. You want to make communities and families like mindless safe. Or we're going to get you and you're not going to get out. We did not have to increase and say like we're adding a death penalty to it. But we said you will be held to account and it has worked better and faster than anywhere else in the entire country. Well. Speed and certainty are the two things that we know work against violent crime. That's right. And that's what I mean about being a Democrat who's able to talk about subject like that. You know what I'm talking about? Okay. And he's a guy who's signed up. Okay. It's 17 to have to make that kind of life a death decision. Right. Because he wasn't a war correspondent. You know what I mean?
I mean, like, this is a real warrior that you got sitting next to you. And I think that that matters. And I think it gives you a different perspective on how precious life is when you lose it. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip. Try new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Maybe it's Mabelie. This week, Governor Los Angeles became the first major school district to require screen time limits. We are the first? OK, they did another-- Australia did it, but I guess they're not here. What's your approach in Maryland? Yeah, where were you on screen time? Well, I know we actually have legislation. It just works his way through Maryland that I will be signing. That's actually going to do a bell-to-bell ban on devices for our kids. [APPLAUSE] There's a school in Houston, by the way, that got a metal grinder. And if your kid is caught with any screen their phone out during the school day at all, they put it ceremonially into the metal grinder. And it just goes in. And that's the end of your phone. That's in your phone. Yeah. Well, it's just in here today. That's a deterrence. It is, it's a deterrence. But I don't-- our families and our teachers are going through enough right now, right? We've had-- we've had, especially post-COVID, we now have a teacher shortage that is vast. And we've been really focusing on getting more educators in classroom, getting more men and more men of color inside of the classroom. We have cut the teacher vacancy rate in half in the state of Maryland. And a lot of them actually been that a lot of those federal workers have been fired. We started something called our Feds and Eds, which is actually saying, if you're a federal worker who's been fired, if you're working for the NIH, and you have a degree in physics. And you want to be a physics teacher? We're going to get you certified. We're going to get you qualified. We're going to get you in a classroom as quickly as possible. We've cut the teacher vacancy rate in half inside of the state of Maryland. I do not want our teachers fighting with Mark Zuckerberg for our kids' attention. And so I want to make sure that we're focusing our kids a lot on class. Thank you. Is there any parent? Any parent, OK? So I had kids in a great public school out where we live. Nothing has made a bigger difference than them pulling the phone. And if there was one fight that I could redo, that I totally blew. I mean, the list is long. But this one, if I could get this one back, I would have never given them the phone. I would have never given them the smart phone. Never. Not until they were 55 years of it. [LAUGHTER] That was good. What was it about? Thank you, everybody. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Marr every Friday night at 10. Or watch them anytime on HBO on demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com. Then for getting it's even theirs. Meet new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Try new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Maybe it's Maybelline.
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Key Points:
Governor Wes Moore of Maryland signed an executive order banning state government employees from participating in prediction markets, citing absurdity and potential for insider trading or grifting.
Moore highlights the disconnect between public polling and prediction markets, using an example where his re-election odds are over 97% despite actual support being around 57%, to argue for government intervention.
He criticizes the lack of accountability in Congress and financial markets, noting that lawmakers are not bound by employment discrimination laws and often avoid transparency, while also advocating for stronger social policies to reduce violence through certainty and accountability rather than harsher punishments.
Summary:
Governor Wes Moore of Maryland addresses several pressing issues during an HBO podcast episode of *Real Time with Bill Maul*. He announces a ban on state government employees participating in prediction markets, arguing that such markets are irrational and prone to manipulation or unethical betting—highlighting a discrepancy between public polling and market predictions. " He then shifts focus to public safety, noting that Maryland’s violent crime rate has dropped nearly 50% due to strengthened enforcement and accountability, not increased penalties.
He also discusses screen time limits in schools, promoting education over digital distraction, and introduces a program to retrain fired federal workers into teachers to address a critical teacher shortage. Moore stresses that while the death penalty is not effective as a deterrent, the social message it sends is harmful. He concludes by urging parents to prioritize in-person learning and personal values over screen time, calling for a return to grounded, community-based education.
Throughout, he positions himself as a pragmatic, values-driven leader committed to public safety, equity, and accountability.
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