This episode of *Always Here* combines personal storytelling with meaningful discussions on women’s health, identity, and life transitions. The hosts reflect on the stigma surrounding periods, especially in adolescence, and how societal norms—particularly from high school boys—have historically led to shame and secrecy. They credit the internet and social media for creating more open, honest conversations about menstruation, menopause, and reproductive health, which has helped normalize these topics. The conversation includes personal anecdotes about first periods, the challenges of using tampons, and the benefits of menstrual cups and period underwear. A key theme is the shift in confidence and self-awareness as women age into their 30s, with the host emphasizing that personal growth comes from embracing experiences and saying “yes” to new opportunities. The episode also celebrates the joy of motherhood, friendship, and life milestones like a baby shower in Hawaii and a 30th birthday. It highlights how small daily choices—like using a menstrual cup or choosing a healthy snack—can reflect deeper values of self-care and well-being. Ultimately, the narrative encourages listeners to embrace their bodies, celebrate their journey, and foster open, honest conversations about women’s health, both in their personal lives and in broader society.
tampons can perfectly get lost inside your body falls there's an end please just cough it up one
day it's one thing for something to be like more private and personal another thing to feel like
embarrassment and shame about it maybe that does just come from like high school boys being immature
and not understanding do you think it comes from more from the boys or from the girls let's blame
the boys i pull that cup out spills all over the bathroom rug it was literally like one of those
moments where i was like i mean i wouldn't be honest if i wouldn't say some blood ended up on
my floor this last cycle welcome back to always keep that in please okay go one two three that's
it welcome back to always here we're your host abby howard and abby howard sorry i just wanted
to jump right in we really need to start because i feel like we are
you
going to talk a lot today this is gonna be a good one i've actually had messages from girls in my
dms asking for this episode oh cool talking about our periods our menstrual cycles and all the fun
things in between fun things between your legs shoot in between there's a lot there's a lot we
could cover and i feel like that is why i was a good day we're gonna talk a lot gotta go but um
we're also here to share the hope and the heart with heart and humor yes we are and
periods did you have a hope and a heart i did you did okay
i have a hope i didn't have a heart but i'll think of one okay now you just made me look
like a complainer over here no i don't this is from yes that is hard that is hard what's your
hard i put a hundred plus thumbtacks into a wood ceiling well your heart was my hope with my head
back okay it wasn't really a heart it was i was joyful to do it
well you were exhausted too i'm sure yeah but it was worth it you're sweet what we're talking about
is abby's baby shower yes so abby and val and a couple of our other friends well i'll shout them
out angel and caitlin everyone all our friends literally all listen to our podcast which for
some reason makes me just feel like i'm like oh my gosh like they are so they're such good friends
you don't have to do that they're like no we love it and i'm like you're so nice um but i don't know
why that just means
so much i'm like this is a lot of footage for you to listen to every week yeah with the when you
already have to hear me yap every day i know it's but you know what i'm an unplanned listener i
listen to unplanned almost weekly and sometimes you know why because you pick up on things that
are going on in your life that maybe we're just not talking about on the rig i guess that's true
you know what i mean it's like i'm getting to know more pieces of you that i could just talk
to about i do always feel ashamed when people are like i learned about this on your podcast why
because i'm like you can't tell everybody everything so i just go where you tell me
tell everybody five x times multiple times yeah i'm like i feel like it's like if you want to hear
the depths of like if you want to hear what's going on in matt and abby's relationship just
like hop on up right and like exactly i learn a lot we've got therapy we've got giggly squad
i know i'm in there at the desk i'm like what would you say in front of your sister-in-law
then we can put that out exactly okay exactly yeah it was a great shower it was a team effort
i feel like all of our friends
brought in like addy pitched in she did help with the balloons our friend amber picked up food
everyone angel caitlin val i mean val really did the heavy lifting she did most of it
ashley made the ranch yeah she brought the ranch she's our friend ashley has a famous ranch which
i was surprised to find out there's no dill in that ranch no dill no but it's unbelievable nothing
fresh at all actually oh weird uh it was one of those recipes that's like i'm gonna enjoy eating
this but i don't want to know i actually didn't got the recipe and i was like shoot
i know
msg a whole block of cream cheese a lot of whole thing of mayo a lot of mayo buttermilk i'm like
that's why it's delicious nothing fresh but it is i was like that is you can drink that
then ranch but it's so good i'm like i don't like ranch but i like that exactly um no the shower was
so beautiful it was just honestly every i couldn't stop just thinking how grateful i am like for all
my friends my mom kept telling because my mom my grandma came to she was telling my grandma
afterwards she's like something you should know about abby's friends is that they are all
so so good they're so nice they're the best people ever and i'm like i know i'm like what do i do like
they just yeah there's just like a i don't know there's just something about it is just so mind
blowing that people can like love you so much and just it just i have no words for how grateful i am
for that day and it was just so perfect and so special good one thing i liked that angel
when she reposted it she was like one thing you won't realize is how much abby you have impacted
that whole group of friends to be together and be friends like all of our us are friends because
you're the middle person that made us all friends and so thank you for that and giving us those
friendships yeah totally so nice yeah i'm glad you felt loved oh so loved i like can't even like
think about it without crying so i'm like no i can't no it's just so it's just oh you're like what
what did i do to deserve like to get this so it's so cool it's like you don't i don't deserve that
and so the fact that people everyone has such busy lives they all have multiple children or like
so many of them are pregnant when you're going through their own like journeys and challenges
and they still like set aside so much time and also money to just put this together for me it
just made me feel so loved so it was beautiful it was so cute yeah but the theme was fun it was um here
comes the sun yeah little boy and yeah the colors are beautiful we had the paper chains kind of 90s
nostalgic it was so cute that did all those chains i just hung them so you know it was it was really
she looked it looked really cool yeah i loved it um i my sister and i got in a debate about how
she's like you should only have one baby shower and we're like baby every we have baby showers
for every kid i know i was thinking about this i was like man it's kind of ridiculous that this
is the third time but it's not gifts it's just more like a party or like a meal to celebrate
you know and like bring a diaper you know i think it's just more so like pregnancy is so hard and
the journey to bring life to this world is so hard and so you should celebrate the mom and build her
up and and celebrate this life and this baby i think it's just i don't know i'm like i think it
should be for every it doesn't have to be a big thing every time but like it's just fun well i
especially love this type of one just like i think this is probably like a debate like some people do
it with their husbands and people don't yeah but for me i like love having a woman's shower because
it's really just a reminder it's like we are all in this together we're here for you through
pregnancy through birth through postpartum like it's just such a reminder that like you're not
alone and you have so many other women that have the same shared experience and are walking alongside
you or various stages of walking alongside you and that is the most important thing i think when
entering motherhood is that you are not alone and that is just like a great reminder with every baby
too yeah because every every it's a whole new thing every time you're relearning so many things
every kid's a new whole different person obviously and you're right you're like okay well i've never
experienced with my first two like what's this about or so it's just a really good network to
have like strengthened right before you're about to enter uh yeah a hard crazy season yeah hard
season yeah for sure but a happy season and i feel like that's also like everyone's just
reminding you so much of the joy too of like what's to come yeah agreed yeah it was great
it was a great day your thumbs are still hurting though there's an ant on me
the heck what the when the organ where did that come from they came yesterday when the organ what
is that literally where's that come from it's it's a brand that sprayed brands yesterday
when we bought our house organ reached out to me and was like hey we'd love to send you some
products for your home like and congratulate to your house and i was like that's so nice
yeah i was expecting bug spray do you know what i got the most beautifully curated package of
anthropology goods like gorgeous bugs on them but bugs yeah like butterfly towels i use every day
magnets for my i was like this is the most this is the best pr package yeah organ marketing team
is killing it i hope i brought them some business but i was like yeah wow thank you no bug spray in
there they probably wanted me to get their service come and do that yeah yeah we'll spray for that
but yeah
shout out organ that would be a conflict of interest probably because i don't think they
have their own oh like products yeah yeah well i learned about working and i'm great fan of their
service so yeah we had a really big ant problem and fly problem yes it makes me feel embarrassed
in a way um no i wouldn't be embarrassed i did notice the flies it was like 50 of them flying
around your trash can she's not even exaggerating you open that trash can and it's it was i mean i
got bombarded with flies
it's not even just it isolated the trash can well when you have dogs and kids your doors are just
always open and that's how our house is too but we haven't had as many issues with our backyard but
i think our yeah you just have a nest somewhere is like yeah some serious
flies i did notice i'm chatting too much yeah that's great hope well i loved i loved the
weekend it was amazing it was your shower my 30th birthday which i'm sure we'll talk about
a little bit but i think my hope when i'm hopeful for is new york this weekend i'm so excited did you
see in your card my card the ps i did my gifts i'm so excited we're all going
Do we have a show?
I was going to see what you were open to because I haven't bought them yet.
But I was thinking, I thought Aladdin would be fun.
Aladdin would be sick.
I love a whole new world.
It's going to be jam-packed.
Yeah.
Wow.
Abby and I were working out the schedule of the timings of things.
And we're like, we're going to take the subway to get there on time.
We have to take the subway.
Perfect.
I said, this is how my brain is thinking.
And she's like, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, one hour.
This is two minutes.
And I was like.
So when do we see our billboard?
On Sunday.
On Sunday.
OK.
We're not even going to see it at night.
We'll see it at the show.
We're going to be by the show, baby.
We have dinner reservations.
We have a show.
Oh, my gosh.
OK.
So we're going to New York because we are on a billboard in Times Square with Patreon,
which literally doesn't make any sense what our life is.
It is a mystery.
It is a mystery.
But we're so honored and so grateful.
So we're going to New York this weekend to see it.
Yeah.
Whenever things like this happen, you're kind of like, I get a feeling.
And I'm not trying to put us down at all because I think we're awesome.
Yeah.
But.
I think we're great and amazing.
But when you're like, wow, what did I do to like actually con my way to this point?
Literally, who did we fool?
I'm like, that's crazy.
We're in my house.
Seriously.
I know.
When you sent the email, like, we're going to be on a billboard, I almost threw up.
I was so excited.
When I got the email, I was like, I can't wait to send this to them.
I called every single person in my family and said, you're never going to believe.
Because I don't believe.
You recorded Caleb's reaction, right?
I recorded my whole entire family's reaction.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah, everyone's reaction.
I know.
Are you going to post that?
Yes.
Yes.
It's going to be so exciting.
I think she reminded me.
I should post that.
So that's my, I'm really excited.
So we'll recap that, I'm sure, next episode.
My heart is small.
I just, sleeping has been kind of hard recently.
Really?
Yeah.
Third trimester.
I don't know what's going on.
How many weeks are you now as of this recording date?
28.
Ooh, that's the turn.
It's turning.
The tide is turning.
The tide is turning, baby.
It's getting hot.
Third try, baby.
It's getting hot, but my heart also comes with a hope.
Yeah.
Just got our chili pad installed.
Did you set it up?
Yes, and I will say, I hope to goodness, Chili Pad, that you will sponsor this podcast as
well, because everyone in every corner of my life needs one of these things.
Wow.
That's high praise.
It's so, it's actually so, it's not something that you would think would make such a difference.
I know.
It's so nice.
The way Dave and Val talk about it, it sounds like it's literally changed their lives.
Well, and here's the thing.
We had friends in Hawaii.
That talked about it years ago.
They're like, this changed our life.
Really?
Yeah, that's, that's what a luxury.
Yeah.
Now I'm like, necessity.
Really?
No, it's like, I turned my bed to 65 degrees last night, and my room is, I have my warm
covers, cold bed.
That really helped.
It really, my sleep score was different.
Interesting.
I have data to show that this is like, helping.
Really good.
It was a great, comfortable experience.
But yeah, Matt's, Matt's side wasn't working for a little bit, and I could just feel his
disappointment.
It was being lazy.
Late.
And I was like, do you want me to look at it again?
Because he was so frustrated.
He was like, you need to get, you're pregnant, you need to get some sleep.
I was like, I can't look at it one more time.
And I like looked at it, I stood up a long time, I stood up really late.
Really?
To set it up.
But it works now.
We can turn our bed down to 54 degrees.
Wow.
That's insane.
Yeah.
I am a really hot sleeper, but I never wake up hot.
I just wake up in the morning after a full night's sleep, just soaked.
So I don't know what that says about me.
Well, what they, we don't need to talk about this forever, but what they recommend you
do is that you cool it, and then it gets coldest, like a little more than halfway through when
you're gonna, like your sleep period.
Oh.
And then it warms up, not to like hot, but like to room temperature almost, by the time
you wake up.
And they say your body will naturally start to wake up without an alarm going to that
and like kind of guide you through your sleep cycles.
Oh, that's really cool.
I'm thinking about postpartum, I'm like, this feels, I'm also thinking about menopause.
Right.
I was like, get all of our mom these.
Literally.
Literally.
Wow, that's interesting.
I want to become one of those women that wakes up at like 5 a.m. just naturally for fun.
No, I think that's a curse.
No, I can't do it.
No, I can't do that without, you know, my alarm doesn't wake me up.
So maybe a chili pad could wake me up.
My body wakes me up for fun at 6 a.m. every day.
It's not fun, it's a curse.
Yeah.
I want to sleep longer.
I need more.
I could probably sleep to like 8 a.m. naturally.
I'm waking up like 6.30 now.
Well, yeah, I think my hard, no, I don't have one.
Nope, don't have one.
And not because I. I was thinking about this.
I just, I feel like it's been a really sweet season.
My mom and dad left, which was really sad.
But I think I talked about that last episode.
Like, it's still hard every week not having them.
I think you did talk about. That's just sad.
They were about to leave.
Okay, yeah, so they officially moved out last week.
I was like, I miss seeing your mom at the gym.
I know, it was really sweet.
All of our friends were like, I miss your mom.
My mom is sad, yeah.
So that was, I mean, it's just, I feel like she is one of the burn girls.
She is.
She is, which is so fun.
And I know CJ misses her, but yeah, that was sad.
That's my heart, definitely.
Sad.
But there's one pro that I cling on to when they're not here to make myself feel better.
It's that I'm really forced to be more independent when she's not here.
And that's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
Yeah, I'm an optimist.
But that's the really only pro.
I think you're still independent.
You can still have your mom and be independent.
I know, exactly.
But listen, I'm just trying to make myself feel better.
Okay, that's good.
Do what you gotta do.
Yeah, so that's fun.
How was Hawaii?
So fun.
It was.
We did get sick, which. So sad.
I think I was sick before we left.
Remember when I said that I had a tummy hurt?
I believe I was on the pod.
That was when you were recording your podcast.
Yeah, I think I had flu B, guys.
You took Griffin to the doctor right after.
Good thing none of us got it.
We had a good off three.
That is actually true.
Yeah, it wasn't contagious.
Yeah, thanks for leaving, actually.
Yeah, it was good we left.
Good we left.
We took it.
We were just outside, so that was. I hope we didn't contaminate anyone, but that was a little bit of a rough patch.
But if you're going to be sick somewhere. Yeah, be sick on an island.
Be sick on an island, yeah.
And no, it was a great time.
It was really, really special just being the four of us.
And it was just. I have no. It was just the best time.
It sounded like you guys did a whole mix of different activities.
Like, you didn't just go to the beach.
You went to a bee farm.
You hung out with friends.
I feel like you guys did a lot of different things.
We went to a homestead.
Yeah.
We saw a lot of. There's a lot of gardening and agriculture on Maui, so we got to see that.
We went on a catamaran tour, which was so wild and crazy.
My kids still talk about it.
Every single day.
They call it the pirate ship.
That's cute.
They thought the guys that were, like, the crew members were pirates because they had
a lot of tattoos.
Oh, nice.
And they, like, Augie every day was just, like, thinking about that.
I'm like, is he going to get tatted up one day?
That would be really interesting.
Shout out to Jamie for helping set that up.
Oh, it was an amazing. See Maui.
If you go to Maui, go to see Maui.
S-E-A.
They were incredible.
Like, it was just the most generous, best experience ever.
Like, my kids actually got to snorkel.
At ages two and three.
That's cool.
That's so cool.
We saw reef sharks.
We saw sea turtles.
Wow.
We saw a ton of fish and the reef, too.
It was a younger reef, which was honestly encouraging to hear because I didn't actually
know that. I thought reefs were only being destroyed.
Same.
Yeah, I didn't know they were being built.
It was a 30-year-old reef.
But I guess that makes sense.
They're growing.
That's good.
We went to. The best snorkeling I've ever done was in Hawaii.
It was Hanama Bay.
Did you guys ever go there?
Hanama?
I think, yeah, that's right.
Hanama.
Did you ever go there when you lived there?
It's awesome.
On Oahu.
Yes.
Did you think it was spectacular or is it just my only experience?
Oh, that's like one of the. No, no, no.
That's like one of the best I feel like they talk about.
Yeah, I remember when we went there.
Sharks Cove is also really good.
Did we go there with you guys when we were visiting?
Probably.
Yeah, I feel like the Hawaii snorkeling is unbelievable.
It's so pretty.
Yeah, no, we had a great time.
It was really, really good to slow down like that and just. Which is so funny because I say slow down, but like obviously with kids, you're kind
of just like. I mean, you're having fun.
Yeah, you're doing fast things, but it felt like slow down because we're just like. Just rolling with the punches of every day.
We had no plans and we were just figuring things out.
So it was really special.
Yeah, that's the best.
The best.
I'm so happy for you.
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Baby shower Hawaii.
My 30th birthday.
I was trying to think what the other things were.
I'm officially 30.
30 days.
Yeah.
It feels good.
It honestly feels right.
30 feels great.
I feel like 29, I just didn't have any thoughts about it.
30, I feel like, okay, I'm supposed to be this age.
There's a confidence that came with 30.
I believe that.
I'm hoping that for myself.
Yeah.
I'm two days in.
I feel confident.
I just, there's something about entering a new decade that just makes you nostalgic.
And I'm not going to like list off my accomplishments or things that I went through, but I feel like
the 20s were really formative for me.
and Caleb, but I think we just
tried a lot of different things and we had a lot of successes a lot of failures and we learned so
much and grew so much together um that ultimately also shaped me as a person and I just feel like
the way that we viewed our 20s was hey we're okay to struggle in our 20s like we want these to be
our years where we try everything and see what sticks and yeah I just really glad that we did
it that way yeah there so there were a lot of hard things but overall I think now to this point
and I just feel so excited and confident about the 30s.
Yeah, I feel like your 20s, it's, like, chaotic.
You're seeing what's sticking.
You're, like, just, I don't know, just trying to, obviously,
I feel like there's, like, a lot of identity forming that comes your whole life,
but, like, especially in your 20s.
Yeah.
That by the time you're 30, you're, like, I hope that I feel this way at least.
Like, I know who I am.
I know what my purpose is here and, like, I have the confidence to, like,
I don't know, just pursue that fearlessly, you know?
Totally.
I feel like there's this shift.
I mean, you think, I was, like, man, 20 felt like yesterday,
but at the same time, it felt like 10 years, it felt like a long time ago.
You know what I mean?
I was a sophomore in college, and through those first few years of my 20s,
that was the first time I, like, went against my parents.
Yeah.
And that was the first time I put the stake in the ground
and, like, really made my own decisions.
So it was, like, this becoming an adult and trying to flex these muscles
that I didn't really have.
You know, of trusting my gut and my intuition
and making hard decisions about my life and the direction I wanted to go.
So there's that.
That's in the beginning of your 20s.
And then in the middle of it, it's, like, I'm getting married
and I'm forming my life with someone.
I found Christ.
Like, all these big, crazy, like, big milestone, monumental things
that really shaped my identity.
And then all these career, you know, ups and downs, and now the end.
So I feel like, yes, there's just so many identity things.
Just to, you know, I'm just echoing what you're saying.
No, no.
I think that's great.
Yeah, you guys asked me to think about a few thoughts on turning 30
and maybe some things that I learned.
I feel like the big thing, one big thing that I feel like,
when I look back at my 20s, putting yourself out there opens up opportunity.
And I think it's saying yes to everything, you know?
I mean, being wise about it, but I think sometimes you look at people's lives
and you're like, whoa, how are they getting these opportunities?
Or how did they end up there?
You know, I want to get to that point in their career where they're at.
Or look at their family, and I want things like,
and it's just like a lot of really small yeses
and a lot of really small steps to get to the big picture of things.
And if you're always in fear or like afraid of change
or you don't want to take the risk on things,
then you're just never going to get really to where you want to be.
And so I feel like when I look back,
I'm really grateful that I said yes to a lot of little things
because it opened up the doors to a lot of bigger things.
That's so good.
That's a little general maybe, but I just, I don't know.
Don't be afraid to say yes and take risks and try.
Mm-hmm.
Everything.
You know, I even just think about someone in like a corporate career,
like a very traditional route.
Like, hey, if your boss asks you to do something extra
or take the next step or lead a group,
if you start saying yes to some of these extra things,
like then you're going to be in the running for bigger promotions,
bigger things.
You know, so I feel like in every area, it's, you know,
even with your kids, if you're a stay-at-home mom,
it's like say yes to volunteering, say yes to these things,
and then you'll be, I don't know.
It's just, I feel like saying yes to things
and getting out of your comfort zone leads to such excitement later on.
Mm, that's so good.
So they're not going to give the opportunities to people that aren't there.
Yeah, we don't know who you are.
Yeah, you got to be involved.
You got to do things.
So I feel like that's something that I definitely learned in my 20s is to say yes.
I think also just, I feel like I have plans, but the Lord's plans are greater.
And even in the hard things,
I feel like there's so much purpose that comes out of the hard.
And I've talked about a lot, but like in the past, my business and Bolt,
like I just had such a different vision for my life,
but going through like the peeling of that back
and the stripping away of those things,
I've come to this place now where I feel so excited about what's next
and this podcast and being with you guys and being in Arizona,
like just things I never expected.
So I'm just really grateful to the Lord
that's like directed our path here.
And it's just not where I pictured it.
So even if, you know, your life isn't going where you thought,
there's purpose in it.
Yeah.
You know.
It's been so cool to like even just be on the outside of like
and watching every stage of, I think I've known you from you're 20 to 30.
Yeah, yeah.
Like just seeing all the change that you've been through,
all the growth and like also just like seeing you where you're at,
like for me to be able to like look up to you through everything
has been like so key in my own experience in my 20s.
Wow.
Gosh.
You're just such a role model to me and like also a friend and a peer,
but just like also that like level of like,
I just know that I can come to you and always receive wise, sound, honest,
kind and encouraging feedback.
And like you've taken like what you've learned.
And also just like, it's been such a blessing to me.
Oh, well, thank you.
It's been so cool.
I appreciate that.
That's really sweet.
You make me excited for 30, just in a couple of years.
Yeah.
That was my last piece of advice.
I think a lot of people will say like, oh, your best years are in your 20s.
Your best years are in college.
And I just want to say that's just such a lie.
That is a lie.
And your peak is not when you're 18.
What a sad life that would be.
That would be horrible.
It's just every phase of life is so exciting and so fun.
And so I just, yeah,
I don't believe the lie that like your 20s are your only time to go travel
and do fun things and be cool and like be hot.
You have your whole life to do.
We can be hot when we're 30.
We can be hot when we're 60.
What do you mean?
I'm shooting for 40 for that.
Yeah, 40 to be a rock star.
So that was my other advice.
Like just don't get,
don't live in like this fear mode of this is the only,
the only time of my life.
That has been one of my like silent goals.
Like that I just like under,
like I think about with every birthday is I just want to be proud of every
birthday I get.
Oh yeah.
Like I want to be grateful for it.
I want to be like,
don't ask how old I am.
Like I understand people are doing that jokingly,
but I do want to just be like proud.
Cause it's like,
I got this whole year like to do and live and meet and try and all these
things.
It's like,
I just want to view each year as a gift and not like something that's like,
I'm ashamed of.
Oh,
what an amazing,
what an amazing outlook.
I love that.
You do a really,
good job of that.
Thank you.
Well,
we're channeling that.
That's really good.
Um,
yeah,
that's all I got.
I think that was enough.
You don't really care too much.
Me to talk about that.
Probably.
That was great.
Thanks.
Well,
today we're talking about period.
You're 30 and you're still having a period.
20s were a period.
Now we're moving on to 30s.
How many years have you had a period?
That's a great segue.
There it is.
I think I got my period when I was in seventh grade.
Okay.
Yeah.
What age is that?
12.
Yeah.
I can't,
I don't remember if it was seventh or eighth grade,
but I remember that was when all the girls were like,
we were all panicked about getting it.
One by one,
the girl started dropping like flies,
you know,
it's like,
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
No,
people wouldn't say like,
it was like,
really?
Yeah.
I thought for,
I had like my best,
one of my best friends.
I was like,
I thought we told each other everything.
And when I got,
I told her,
she's like,
yeah,
I got mine a year ago or something like that.
And I was like,
how dare you?
That is shocking.
I know,
but I feel like people,
there was so much like embarrassment attached to periods.
Sure.
That I actually,
when I was like reflecting on this and like preparing for this episode,
I hope that,
and I actually think it's probably changing.
I'm not sure that the like preteens and teens nowadays feel that same way.
I would hope not.
I would hope not.
You know what?
I think this is like a really amazing blessing of the internet.
And we were kind of talking about this on our call with a girl,
a girl on a team's in her forties.
And so she's like entering,
I mean,
she's probably not entering,
menopause,
but it's approaching that.
And it's like 40,
you know,
she looked,
I thought she was 32 when I first met her.
Yeah.
I know goals,
literally goals.
But I feel like with the internet,
like I just,
how my mom talks about menopause,
no one spoke about it.
Like they were just left to fend for themselves.
But I feel like influencers on the internet and social media,
like talking about these things openly and like very publicly has shaped a lot
of conversation around menopause,
premenopause,
pregnancy,
birth,
and then,
obviously periods.
So I'm like,
that's a really great pro about people online being too honest about things
that happen in their body.
Right.
Like it's like,
it's one thing for something to be like more private and personal.
Another thing to feel like embarrassment and shame about it.
Right.
And I definitely think that like for me,
at least it was like,
I was very embarrassed about it.
Like at times,
like even just the conversation about it.
Now,
when I actually started my period,
I was 14.
So I feel like I was like the,
like everyone around me had already started going through it.
But like the,
the initial,
like,
I just remember,
you know,
when they do the period talk at school,
they take the boys away,
come back.
Yeah.
Like,
it was just like so embarrassing.
And when the boys would be like,
what did you guys talk about?
I'm like,
yeah,
nothing.
And they gave you like a maxi pad.
And like,
I had to like shove it to the back of my locker because I couldn't let a single
boy see it.
And like,
if I remember if I had to change like any period product during school,
like I was,
I,
this was the season of.
Yeah.
Victoria's secret leggings and Ugg boots.
Heck yeah,
baby.
Tampon in the boot,
tampon up the hoodie sleeve.
Don't,
don't let anyone see I'm carrying it.
Like hide it with all you can.
And like,
or heaven forbid,
you have to change your tampon.
You're at a boy's house.
Like,
what do we do with that trash can?
Or anywhere.
Like there's just this stress of all that.
I'm like,
I just hope that that's not necessarily there.
Like,
it's one thing,
like you can be private about it.
Like that's very understandable and normal and great and normal.
But the,
the shame and embarrassment is like.
Honestly,
maybe that does just come from like high school boys being immature and not
understanding.
Do you think it comes from more from the boys or from the girls?
Great question.
Let's blame the boys.
I've already,
CJ.
comes in the bathroom i've had my period twice now and he keeps coming he goes you bleeding mama
see i think you do a great job of that and i was actually going to give props to you and our
mother-in-law about that because i feel like women's health and like the discussion specifically
around like periods and stuff like that was very like it was an open dialogue with their sons yeah
it was and i think that that's why like they're not they're not phased by no one's phased by it
and i don't think that's the case in every family and so then some of these boys are like
what the world is going on and even though like matt was raised in an all-boy household right they
didn't have he doesn't have any sisters right so i'm like that is she did a great job of that i
also feel like that was kind of progressive yeah it was because i feel like a lot of the boys i was
growing up with were just like what in the world like shocked and i was also just like so embarrassed
but um yeah that's what i was saying i was like i think that there's been a lot of positive growth
in this area as far as like the dialogue i do think we have a ways to go
as far as research and i was kind of like learning and we can talk about that a little
yeah bring it up because um emma our producer i wish i had time to listen to it but i was listening
to her audiobook you'll for sure listen to it i'm going to listen to it yeah tomorrow yeah because
yeah i just it looked amazing she's referring to our producer sent us this uh very awesome
podcast by the diary of a ceo he had it with four different like female doctors i think there was an
ob gyn there is an ant on your mic what is happening i see it why is it me it's not you
how is it getting all the way over there i didn't know they were being forced to migrate because
they love this rug just hiding millions of ants oh no organ trail please no please
organ sponsored podcast spray the room please so no they got helmets
they had helmets
does that make you feel like you're unsafe if they have helmets no i honestly was just like
man i appreciate just the the commitment yeah the level of care here this is so serious and i
appreciate you handling it that way yes um they said infestation say less we're coming fully
suited seriously this is great they were they were honestly the sweetest guys ever it's awesome
um one of them was having a hard time
having a baby matt had matt emptied our pr closet of all baby products he was like please take all
that's really generous that's so sweet so sweet oh he's like i did it because i feel like it's
something you would have done oh my god you're so kind i got so sidetracked but we can link this
other podcast it's gonna be very informative it's ours is more you know chit chatty yeah yeah it's
fun but you had some things that you felt like were really like yeah i'll sprinkle in some tidbits
yeah it feels relevant and i i haven't finished it either
because it is nearly four hours but it is um for female doctors and like their experience and
um i was just amazed by the honest but respectful conversation about like basically just one of
their things they were like with between women and men's bodies every cell of a woman's body
is different than a man's body and i feel like he put steven bartlett the host of the show he
pointed out he's like at one point that felt taboo to say and she's like yeah but she's like it's it's
very important that we understand that like it's not just our reproductive organs that are different
and like making us separate separate from men like it's it's every single cell like our bones
our organs and how things function and anyway it was just a very very good conversation yeah i mean
that affects everything think about even the foods that we eat versus the foods that men eat like the
food is it drastically going to affect our lives and our lives and our lives and our lives and our
affect our bodies so differently than men and so if we don't understand how much protein we should
actually be having or minerals or vitamins or what medicine how the medicines of how does
advil affect us versus a man it's like yeah wow that's really that affects everything affects
everything it was it's a really great conversation these women are just like a wealth of knowledge
and experience and they've they're definitely very well established in their careers and um it was
just a really interesting conversation i learned so much because i was like wow this is something
that i were always like we need to talk more about this and i was like i need to talk more about this
but i'm like i don't even know what to talk about because i don't even i don't know what i don't know
right so i was like this was a great like start actually i shouldn't say starting point because
it was like high level dive yeah yeah but it was i mean i can't recommend it enough i i haven't
finished it but it was really good to know as a woman i'm also like matt listen to this
it's so interesting i feel like now after having babies and feeling the my hormone shift and like
feeling how my body is actually affected by that i'm more interested in learning about it
whereas when i was 16 i didn't really necessarily care like i knew there were a lot of hormone things
going on but i didn't know myself well enough to feel what those changes were but now as an adult
i'm like oh i actually feel that difference well i do kind of feel like the conversation on hormones
especially with teenagers is like oh it's making them moody and like yell at their mom it's so
sexy and like cry a lot where it's like our horror they describe in this this podcast that like it's
our body's messaging system like how we're sending signals to like fire certain ways and like how we're
not like turn on things turn off things and so um yeah it does because i do feel like hormones is
kind of just like oh there's just this dramatic girl like where it's like it's so much more than
that and it's actually not even that's not even really what it is at all right right it was really
cool yeah i'm excited to listen to it so we polled the audience you guys that follow us on the always
here podcast instagram which if you don't follow us there or engage there you should because uh it
really is fun to engage with you guys and i'm excited to listen to you guys and i'm excited to
in our episodes as are happening um we asked what period product do you swear by
and you know i'm actually surprised so many people use pads 36 percent of people use pads
i will put in here the something else we also had a box for people to say what that is a type of disc
of some sort like a menstrual cup or a disc that's what most of the people said under the something
else i cannot wait to talk about that i'm excited to talk about that 36 said pads i am curious about
because are people using pads more have they always used pads or is it more now because there's
a conversation around tampons being toxic probably it's probably shifted but i will say when i first
got my period i did pads because i was scared of inserting tampons interesting and then once i did
that i switched but i feel like there is a fear around putting a tampon in like if you've never
done it before a lot of people or it's uncomfortable for some people i remember my mom bought me a box
of tampons to practice with before and she bought me cardboard
so never practiced because how in the heck are you supposed to get my dad got me cardboard tampons
when we were on a trip to disney world when i was in high school oh and i was like that's a mistake
you make what am i doing this i was actually shocked there's no applicator uh-huh oh have
you ever seen a cardboard one no i'm gonna look it just it's all manual and you know what it hurts
because you know a plastic applicator it slides yes so cardboard tampons just the big oh i see
cardboard around it my dad got me that it was all they had at the like whatever art of animation
i will say with like tampons you it needs to you need to be bleeding for like you can't like it
can't yeah you have to already have some moisture down there needs to be moisture for sure yeah it
hurts because i didn't know i okay so i've always used tampons i did start with pads when i was like
first starting out but i didn't like how they i felt like you could i played volleyball so i feel
like you could see them in my spandex and stuff so i just immediately switched to tampons um i had
a lesson um from my mother on that one an invasive one because i could figure it out i love that you
have a relationship with your mom yeah well what are you gonna do i was like i think i just certainly
i had that book out that i had told you guys about about my body that i was looking over i was like
i certainly thought i was a boy certainly i was like things where does this go i don't think i'm
built like everyone else no i'm not kidding i was like you're not really that was a thought i had so
i'm glad i figured it out i'm in fact a woman but um so i did tampons pretty much all until the past
two periods i've ever had really yeah i switched to the disc our friend topanga brought it to the
favorite things party oh yeah yeah i grabbed it i like it and you started using it yeah you know
what it's invasive and it's messy but i'll continue using it do you feel like a woman
when you're no let me tell you my fingers have never been so
like wow
that's tmi but you know you're gonna put them up there and you gotta do it i doing it in the
shower because it's a lot of blood you know you think about it you put this disc in it holds six
super plus tampons six super plus tampons that's amazing it's so much more hygienic for your body
like i feel better like you know when you use a tampon towards the end of your period it's like
you get sore down there and like i don't know it just hurts so this never had any of that it was
way well let me smoother this was my journey i got my first period i immediately
had that day had dance and so i was like i'm not my mom this is the day of the day of wow and i like
had this maxi pad which first of all i actually also we're not bleeding that much i didn't need
that yeah um but i was like i do need something and so i just i remember this i sat on our bathroom
counter just move your legs open yeah i was like that was the first time i discovered
yeah the
academy down there yeah i didn't know that one i didn't know that one right yeah i mean what
opportunity as a young girl are we going to be
be i didn't know that one right and i was like i gotta i gotta see i have to know that this is here
because i didn't believe it yeah and then i just figured it out i just used a tampon my mom was
like you okay like if you want to she's she didn't use them so she was like i don't really
she didn't help you actually um but i it's okay i like had all my friends you know my friends like
kind of had prepped me for this and so i used a tampon then for that amount of time i always slept
with pads because i i was worried about keeping those in for a while but then before i got married
so this is one of those things about waiting for marriage you have you know there's a lot of talks
about preparing yourself and so some of one of my friends that had been married for like two
years two whole years she's like this is what really will help she's like if you use a menstrual
cup for your cycle before you like have intercourse oh so you don't have pain your first time i guess
it stretches things out oh interesting i don't remember sex or being painful like well a lot of
people do experience pain the first time they have sex i think and so um but she told me she's
like just like that you're like three cycles before you get married just like switch to that
interesting and so i switched to a cup and you guys this is such a vivid memory for me because
first of all you have to uh when you first get them it's recommended to boil it so my roommates
what is in you boiling out this dough i'm just like it needs four more minutes
just floating in this water in the coop the house that we lived in and then i was like everyone stop
i need this this is my preparation well like what and so but then i would hadn't started my period
but i was like ready it was like pre-boiled right of course my parents come to town for whatever
reason for some event at college and i always wanted to stay in their hotel with them when
they would visit you
your timing is impeccable oh my god i was like now's the time to try this
and i go in the bathroom and like lock the door and i was like i can't figure this thing out oh
my god i don't know if i can figure that out to this day i've never you have to fold it a certain
way and you really just have to get comfortable with yourself exactly and here's the thing about
it is that like i tried it and i was like not i was getting so frustrated and panicked
oh and then i was like i just need to go back to the house with the girls and i need them just like
help me and so i like texted my friend i was like i don't she's like you just need to relax
she's like take a bath breathe through and take a bath oh wow i take i get in the bath
whole thing and i'm like relaxing and then i'll go back i got it in couldn't sleep that night
because i could feel it i could feel it the whole time really now this should not just i'm not trying
to deter anyone from using it this is also before i was like sexually active at all and so i think
that probably played a role
hmm
but after i would say it took a good 24 hours for me to be like okay i don't feel this anymore i can
relax and then i and i had a great experience with the cup and that's what i used then
yeah and it was i did just feel better like in my body not having like all the chemicals like and
cotton and um also it lasts way longer there's no risk of toxic right i mean you've got to change
that thing yeah you gotta clean it right i would actually i boiled it like after each cycle oh i
haven't done that but that's interesting yeah
i don't know that that's necessary yeah they just i think for the desk it's just gentle
gently wash okay and so i the first time i did yeah just boiling yeah you see how do you get
past the fear of that it's gonna just be stuck in there because like with a tampon i feel good
that there's a strain it's not unlimited in there i don't it vibrated what do you mean like how do
you get it out there's it it doesn't just go up into your organ oh yeah yeah yeah you can't get
past that cervix it's stuck in there unless you've got a baby coming out there you just have to like
go up on the side of it well the disc you actually put up over your pubic bone so it goes up pretty
far yeah so it goes up but it's really comfortable because it's not just sitting in like your bladder
area like a cup is yeah not your bladder but you know what i'm talking about so the disc is really
comfortable because it goes up a little higher but yeah bear down to kind of push it out a little
bit and then there's like a little spin but you got to be careful taking it out because one of my
stories you're gonna see yeah there's some more variables with the cup that you don't necessarily
i feel like i should try this
just at some point to like understand the anatomy of it of doing it literally look at my face
your body will thank you i feel like because it's just it's also just the peace of mind you
can leave that thing in for 12 hours yes all day long so i would i would get in well i would empty
it in the disc you can self empty but it's still really messy so i would just do it in the shower
and i would do it in the morning and then at night before bed and it was awesome you you've
mastered it quickly yeah it took me one whole cycle to like master probably try it at some point in
my life i did feel really good about it i feel like you know really clean were you guys heavy
when you did tampons and stuff were you guys heavy bleeders or like i am now now now i am after having
babies yeah 42 said they use tampons what do you use that do you use pads are you tampons yeah
we're the majority here yeah a lot of the or not a lot but some of the something else where they
do both like they use a tampon and a pad because they're heavy i sometimes do a tampon and a like
panty liner i always just in case there's always it like in case it's always like a tampon and a
leakage it's leaking into the yeah it's not like it's gonna be a heavy flow yeah i always wear a
panty liner too on my period yeah eight percent said period underwear have you guys tried that
i have not i need education on that i don't know anything about them i'm really uh i feel like
would they not smell can you you can't wear them with like leggings which is like maybe you can't
no actually they look like you could but they're like boy short type yeah and i'm like i feel like
a lot of time i'm wearing leggings it kind of it just looks like a pair of underwear that just
hits you it's like a pair of underwear that just hits you it's like a pair of underwear that just
like has a thicker like a pad built in i was asking someone that used one of these how they
wash them because i think that was the thing that has deterred me always is like in your washing
machine but maybe you do a pre-rinse and then wash it i feel like i would just feel maybe i i
need to be educated but i feel like i would feel gross wearing my blood all day like that maybe it
stores it away under the huh yeah i don't know i love the freedom of not having it come out of me
oh yeah until i'm ready for it all at once
totally yeah um but i yeah i'm grateful there are more methods i feel like there were not as
many options also there's period um swim bottoms which i'm like that actually that's a good idea
kind of like a good idea that does like that will keep things in there because i don't know
sometimes i'm like that was a big insecurity as it like a pre-team like team like swimming was like
so scary so scary i was always checking to see if my tampon string was out like whatever you're
using but just to have that extra security yeah that would be really scary i don't know
being nervous like your tampon string was hanging out yeah um caitlin our friend i was with her
today and she's like do you remember asking your friend a million times like check me check me yeah
check me like lifting over at the dance studio when you're wearing a leotard and tights you're
like can you see it yes always and sometimes people would be yeah you could sometimes you
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the questions they're all true or false okay so we'll see how you do there's 30 questions
oh wow it shouldn't take too long we don't have to do them all either but a normal menstrual
cycle is always 28 days false i have no idea false gotta be a range false false do you know
what the range is 28 to 21 to 30 21 to 35 i was gonna say 32 but i was like there's not 32 days
in a month but that also my logic seems like a long one do you guys know like how long your guys
cycle about every three every every fourth week i get my period okay you don't know in days so i
like one it's like 26 days so here's the crazy thing in the past 10 years i have actually tried
to figure out how many cycles i've had it's been probably 12 because birth control and pregnancy
pregnancy pregnant right after before even getting a cycle then birth control and then pregnancy
mm-hmm and then one cycle pregnancy
I mean, it was like, I just, yeah, habit.
oh and also when i was breastfeeding i went a long time without getting my period too man i never
took a birth control that suppressed my period so i just never i've never gone except during
pregnancy super heavy so i think that that's why it would just knock it out took it out
mine wasn't my i had a when i was on the pill i had a period when i got the an iud i didn't have
a period that's how mine was okay you can still get pregnant while on your period i think they
say yes i think that's true i think they say yes but i don't believe it i think it's very unlikely
it says true especially if you ovulate early or have a short cycle okay brown period blood
usually means something is seriously wrong false that's like at the end yep i feel like that's
called the exclamation point did you guys get this where you get your period and then there
was a day where nothing would happen and then one day later i would it would just come back
for one yeah it's like light and then it kind of gets you get a heavy my mom and i call out
the exclamation point that's
so funny the brown would always be at the beginning i like tell myself that it was like
from the last yeah beginning and end it's like the oxidation of um the blood like that's good
severe period pain that makes you vomit or miss work is normal no no that sounds horrible no i
miss school sometimes because my period because i the cramps are so bad and they put me on birth
control um stress can affect your menstrual cycle yeah true and it can affect your ovulation and the
ovulation usually happens about 14 days before your next period that's what they say but
i can't say that's true have you taken ovulation tests never never in my life i didn't even know
everything until you took a maddie and i was like what is that you're so strict based not on
anything my friend the other day she was like there is a chance that i got pregnant like she
was like there's a chance i got pregnant last night she like just had a baby too and she was
like she's like i'm
worried i said go take an ovulation test to see if you're even ovulating right now because she
like kind of had her period or anything and she's like not ovulating i'm like okay i know when i'm
ovulating i just don't know the amount of days in between um it is 14 about 14 before your next
period it just gets really heavy like whoa things are happening pms only causes emotional symptoms
no the gravy the hunger the hunger is unbelievable i'm oh i always know i'm like i'm starving yeah
bloating fatigue headaches acne and more oh my gosh the pimples every blood clots during a period
are usually dangerous no i feel like that's normal no yeah i get those a lot especially on day two
especially on heavier days yep the uterus sheds its lining during menstruation true true the
lining is what exists or what exits the body during a period exercise can sometimes help
reduce cramps true oh yeah for sure true hormonal acne can worsen a
around your period true gotta be true hey we're so educated you're doing good it's like we've done
this you lose about a cup of blood during an average period do you really true i really i
don't know okay i'm guessing that's false it's gotta be less than that um this this says you
lose around one to two tablespoons i also saw one that said it was like three to four no i'm sorry
one to four than that when i'm looking at this disc that is kind of crazy one to two tablespoons
every 12 hours no way certainly it's possible to have symptoms from ovulation
oh yeah i learned that after having babies yes same with me i didn't have any before
symptoms as in what you feel your ovulation i do oh i was thinking about like being horny
oh shoot i don't get that one i think that's like biological that would make because that's
the time they went your body wants you to make a baby it makes sense this says people notice
changes or bloating my discharge does not even one of them but you want to know what's by a lot
like an interesting thing about that is i do notice the the discharge changes you're like
very yes very lubricated during your ovulation yes yeah yeah yeah yeah which makes sense yes
okay yeah yeah your period blood is dirty blood your body is getting rid of
yes no it's not
periods can change over time as you age yeah yeah i think so i agree that's true hormone stress
health conditions and aging all affect your cycle pms symptoms can begin before bleeding starts
i was actually surprised with that this last time i was like i feel i'm so crampy my back was aching
i was moody um really hungry and then my period didn't come moody abby thank you for saying that
she's never moody i don't notice it's so kindness of you the whole week i was like
when is it happening and it started the week after oh wow i know i never cramped before
my period normally i would cramp on like the day that i would get my period this
was the whole week before i was crazy but it's my second period post baby so things are still
yeah you know they're getting back to normal it does say pms often begins in the luteal phase
before the period arrives which i believe luteal is right before of course so that would make sense
cervical mucus changes throughout the menstrual cycle yeah yeah it does cervical mucus what is
that discharge discharge oh you've been saying in this whole podcast scientific term
you're discharging no that's like abby abby says
why do you say that in what context are you saying
it's so middle school in front of people i'm surprised she says yes i think it's funny
okay i'm sorry i really derailed this conversation i just what do you say i just like saying things
like how middle schoolers it comes up i don't know why it comes up it comes up
the first time i said that to you you're like whoa don't say that
she's taking it back and now i just whenever i hear that word it's usually from your mouth
but if it's not i think about you i'm honored it's just so
crass and funny and childish and i like saying it i love it
sorry period poops are a real thing yes oh yeah the i always know it's a good day that first day
the period cleaned out then i'm contemplating for about six days really that first day that was
amazing it's all i mean if we're talking about it you know like you have a tampon in
poop that's just like oh such a waste of your tampon literally just take it out can't do it
you can ovulate even if your cycles are irregular i don't know oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
it just doesn't always mean that you're it's like the 14 days before okay so you can ovulate but
not bleed later sleeping poorly can sometimes affect your cycle i don't i'm sure i'm sure
weird ovulation also can be a i shouldn't say weird irregular ovulation can also
cause twins oh i didn't know that you're weird ovulation i had weird ovulation happen
all right what are we talking about um sleeping poorly can affect your cycle
certainly it can i feel like it affects everything just like stress can yes it is true
tampon say it addy what tampons can perfectly get lost inside your body
falls there's an end that's like i just saw the
disc in the door it's just coughing up one day
i lost that once ago no i've heard terrible stories of people like leaving them in for
really long time so i forget about it things happen the cervix prevents tampons from traveling
beyond the vagina yes and whatever else praise the lord for that
oh period cramings can be influenced by hormones yeah oh boy i want that chocolate last one having
a regular period means all hormones are balanced i don't think balanced no yeah that's true it is
false you guys are correct yeah someone can still have hormone related issues despite regular cycles
hmm that's it i'm actually surprised that i knew i was honestly we suggested a quiz i was like
probably not gonna know much about this yeah wait till we do that there is a question that i read
on a different quiz that i was reading how many periods do you think you have in your lifetime
average oh two quizzes have the same number so i'm going based on the
well we have different ages i get my calendar i get my calendar as well my calculator is the
calendar every month wow i have everything tracked from the age 12 no just kidding i just
started tracking in the last three years um how are we doing this math there's 12 months in a year
how many years have i lived i'm gonna say
336 no
no certainly not
because if i did
18 years of having my period, you know, 30 minus 12.
You get your period for more than 18 years.
But are you talking about your total lifetime or just my current lifetime?
And your total lifetime.
Got you.
Not how old you are now.
Oh, oh.
Maybe 28, maybe 336 is aggressive.
But I would say almost 300.
I'm going to say 400.
Whoa.
Are those your answers?
Well, I'm thinking now 30 and I'm going to go to 45.
That's 15 more years.
I'm saying 336.
And that was 216.
336 and you're saying?
400.
It's 450.
Wow.
Well, not me.
Late bloomer.
I've obliterated that with my birth control usage.
That is interesting because I wonder if it's accounting for pregnancies.
I don't know.
That's why I was thinking, yeah.
That's like at least a year gone.
Yeah.
Actually, some people get their period while they're pregnant.
I'm so sorry for you.
I mean, that's just unlucky for you because.
Well, that's how some people don't know that they're pregnant.
I know.
Or people just have irregular periods and then they just don't realize they're pregnant.
That's really wild.
I don't understand that.
It's truly the best science.
Besides your baby, it's a great gift.
To not have a period.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Okay, let's read their audience story.
Okay, we asked you guys.
Yeah, we asked you guys what your audience horror stories are.
I feel like every girl has experienced mishap.
We're going to share our horror stories.
And we asked you guys on Instagram what some of your experiences were with periods.
And you guys had some good ones.
This first one?
This first one, Heather West says,
While on vacation, the suction from my menstrual cup pulled my IUD out of my uterus.
Do you think that hurt?
Yes.
Never had an IUD.
Really?
Well, getting it removed.
Surely you think that happened gradually though?
Or did it just like as soon as she suctioned it, it ripped out?
Well, first of all.
Why was it suctioning so hard?
It sounds like a suction to anything.
So something, maybe something was just like.
It was inserted incorrectly maybe.
Like it was closed and then opened up there.
Yeah, whoa.
All the way at your cervix.
Whoa.
The IUD surely had to be slipping out.
Yeah, hopefully.
Because if you're having intercourse also, and then, but that, does it?
It seems a little odd to me.
That would be crazy.
That's traumatic.
Heather, we're sorry.
Paula said, PCOS girly.
So once I had my period for one and a half months straight.
No, that's horrible.
That is.
That's horrible.
Were you taking supplements?
That sounds scary.
That sounds scary.
Yeah, all the iron loss.
Seriously.
She surely lost a cup.
A cup, yeah.
Seriously.
I once had my period on a fabric chair in school.
They had me carry the chair through the halls to the nurse.
That's mean.
That's mean.
That's a.
That deserves a phone call from your mom.
Bring that to the school board.
That deserves a phone call.
That's really mean.
Kayla said, my first cup got stuck and I had to ask my boyfriend.
Okay.
Okay.
It took me a couple of weeks and a half, a month to help me get it out.
Oh, surely there's another call.
Yeah, surely there's another option for that.
Oh my gosh, that's funny.
Dang it.
Candice said, having used a cardboard tampon after bleeding through my uniform skirt at
school.
Truly.
The cardboard tampon is the biggest trauma of them all.
It's a medieval contraption.
It really is.
Lisa said, I passed out my first period seeing the blood.
Shoes.
Oh, wow.
Shoes.
I actually know people that pass out at the sight of blood.
And then my question, follow up question was, how do you deal with your own cycle?
That's interesting.
I've actually never thought about that.
They probably just pass out and then move on with their day.
That's wild.
Yeah.
And the blood loss doesn't help.
They should use the disc.
It's only twice a day instead of like six.
But it's a crime scene when it is.
Shoot it down and don't look.
Alyssa says, first period on 4th of July at my friend's grandparents' house right before
going to the water park.
No, that's sad.
That was always the fear for me.
It's the fear.
It's not really a big deal once you figure it out, but that first time.
It's not going to gush the first time.
It's not going to gush.
And no one's going to know that you're on it.
But that would just be a tough pill to swallow.
It's the forefront of your brain.
Exactly.
That's all you can think about when you're in a tiny little swimsuit.
GoGreen said, nonstop bleeding for a month straight.
Doctor didn't want to put me on birth control.
Ultrasound normal.
That's so frustrating.
Like, why would we just bleed?
You know?
That's a bummer.
So weird.
There's so many things.
Yeah.
I hope you figure out why that happened because that sounds miserable.
It really does.
Alicia says, got it the day before my wedding.
And my second day is always the heaviest.
I was so worried about that happening.
And you know what I did specifically for this purpose?
I went on birth control like the month before, two or a couple months before so that I could
time when I would get my period.
Me too.
And I took my pills accordingly to like time out when I would get it.
Why am I having no memory of, I guess I just wasn't on my period.
I definitely got birth control before we got married and I got it in like April.
We got married in July.
I was on birth control.
Yeah.
So then, then I didn't, I knew I'd probably stop having a period.
So then I was glad I didn't have to worry about that.
I know.
I was just like, that would suck.
Yeah.
That would be a big bummer.
That would suck.
Lizzie said, the first time, the first ever time I got my period, I thought I pooped myself
and I was like.
Oh, wow.
Well, it's brown.
Oh.
When it first comes out, you know.
Did I poop on my vagina?
That would be concerning.
Tally Joy says, I pulled my tampon out in the morning.
I was like, oh my God.
And there was still another stream.
Oh, that's every girl's worst nightmare.
I've never done that.
I haven't either by no people to have.
I've had, I've had friends had to get surgery because they've left it in so long.
Oh.
Yeah.
I mean, it's rare.
It's happened to like two people, but.
Did they get toxic shock?
No.
I've never known anyone to get that.
I can feel it.
Like I just, I could never put them both in.
Not that that doesn't happen.
I mean, if you have a light tampon up there, I mean, those are really comfortable.
You know, I could see it.
Oof.
I know.
From Hannah Carter.
First time using a tampon was in the condo bathroom at church camp before heading to
the beach.
My mom was trying to explain how to use it over the phone while I panic cried in the
bathroom.
Thought I finally got it right until I got in the ocean and watched it float past me
because I didn't put it in far enough.
Needless to say, I stayed out of the water the rest of the trip.
Not everyone.
Not everyone.
This sounds like one of those situations.
I just picture you're standing there, just like your eyes just following you.
I feel like that type of thing would happen to me.
And I would just be like, get it out of here.
Who's that?
I always just, whenever things like that happen, I just flee.
So I feel like that would just be my. You start blaming it on everyone else.
I'm like, oh, that's crazy.
Whoa, you see that?
That's fish.
That's like everyone's worst nightmare.
It's a jellyfish.
These loser.
Loser's out here littering.
Well, now you have a good story.
That's an amazing, amazing story.
I'm not kidding, Hannah.
That would really happen to me.
That also would be a great movie.
Somebody writing a movie should put that in there.
They're going to steal it.
It's really good.
They're going to steal it for sure.
And also, hey, good news.
You don't get your period when you're in the water.
It's true.
So you don't even need it.
I would have said she should have just stayed in the water, actually.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't bleed as much in the water.
That's great.
Sarah Jo Taylor said,
First period came while on a camping trip.
Thought I had the stomach flu.
Mucho cramping and nausea.
I thought I was going to die.
No supplies.
I now always have tampons with me.
I've been scarred.
Oh, don't you have to dig a hole when you're camping
or you're going to attract the bears?
The bears come and get you.
I smell some blood.
I don't know.
I've never camped.
Piranhas.
I don't know what it's attracted.
Lions.
Piranhas.
She's camping in Africa.
You never know.
You never know.
Those are in water.
No, that's what she had to worry about in the ocean.
In the ocean.
Wait, where are piranhas?
Can you please look that up?
It's Africa, right?
Amazon.
What are you talking about?
Piranhas.
Yeah, where do piranhas live?
Oh, I thought you were. You don't have any time to ask Siri animal questions
because of my kids.
Hey, Siri.
Where do piranhas live?
Piranhas live in the water bodies and rivers of South America.
In particular, Amazon, La Plata, and Oronovo.
Every answer is the Amazon.
Tropical freshwater rivers.
And lakes of South America.
Oh, South America.
See, I thought Africa.
That's one of those fears that's like quicksand, piranhas.
Yes.
Like you think it's going to be a bigger issue
than it ends up being.
The Amazon.
Just don't go to the Amazon.
Gosh.
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Period stories.
Okay.
None of these I need to really elaborate on.
Don't worry.
I'm not going to talk too much.
My first story was my first period story, which honestly was, I hope this can, I mean,
probably people listening to this have already had their periods for many years.
Pass this on to your daughter.
Most periods, first periods are not majorly eventful.
No.
And I think in my head I had heard all these like crazy stories.
I was like so like on pins and needles for so long.
Like when is it going to happen?
Actually, I thought it was going to happen a long time before because I started getting discharged.
Yeah.
In fifth grade.
Yeah.
So that day I went to the bathroom like eight times.
My teacher surely thought I got my period because I surely did.
And I was like, what in the world?
Little did I know years later.
Yeah.
Years down the line.
But I got it and I was just at school and I just went to the bathroom and I was like,
oh, that's what it is.
Crazy.
Went to my locker because I had the stuff already ready from my mom.
I do remember the underwear I was wearing.
You do?
Because I was like, this has to be the last day I ever wear this underwear, obviously.
But then any other underwear like this, I need more mature underwear.
It was purple underwear with frogs on it.
And I was.
From Limited Too?
Probably.
Yeah.
And I was like, it's got to end.
Or Aeropostale.
It's got to end today.
I'm now a woman.
No.
No more purple and mace and frogs.
I don't think it was cool.
I think if it was from Limited Too, I would have thought it was still cool.
Yeah.
It was certainly probably just Fruit of the Loom, bikini.
I was like, this has to be.
I mean, you were 14.
It was tough.
It was so tough.
And then I got cheetah print underwear.
Perfect.
From Victoria's Secret.
Wow.
You skipped from child to second.
Jumped a lot.
And then I had dance that day, like I said.
I plopped myself.
Right in front of the bathroom counter.
I shared a bathroom with a boy, my brother.
And I was like, he just had to get used to it, I guess.
I didn't hide anything from my brother.
Like your products, you mean.
Yeah.
I didn't hide it.
I put it in the trash.
Right.
You closed the door when you were sharing the bathroom.
When you were on the couch.
Yeah.
You were trying to put the tampon in.
He wasn't in there.
He was not in there.
You framed the story like he was in there.
I'm sorry.
You said, I shared the bathroom.
He was nowhere to be found.
But I never hid where I stored the tampons or even in the trash.
I didn't feel like I needed to hide it.
Yeah.
No, that's great.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Well, he was set up for six.
But yeah, it was very uneventful.
Yeah.
But you know, it was one of those things.
I had dance that day and I just remember telling my friend, I was like, hey, I got my period.
She's like, oh yeah, I've been doing that for a year.
How dare you?
My first period was really chill too, actually.
I remember being that anxious feeling all the time at school.
Like, oh, that feels kind of weird.
And then running to the bathroom and thinking that I got my period.
And all my friends like trading tampons when they needed them.
And it's like, oh, I got my period.
And it's like, oh, you got yours.
You got yours.
And actually, now I think it was eighth grade when I got mine.
And I was in math class.
I remember exactly the class that I was in.
And I went to the bathroom.
I was like, I got to go pee.
Pulled my pants down.
A little brown discharge.
And I texted my friend and she brought me a tampon.
Or maybe just a pad.
I don't remember.
And I went home that day, told my mom, and she took me to Cheesecake Factory for a little
girl's date.
Aw.
Yeah.
That's sweet.
She was like, welcome to the club.
The club.
Yeah.
I actually really liked that.
Like our little ritual of celebrating it.
It was cute.
Yeah, it was cute.
I liked that.
But it was pretty, it was like low-key and uneventful.
I don't remember a ton about it.
I also don't remember it being regular for a long time.
Oh, really?
Like I would get it and then I would go a couple months without getting it.
And then I would get it again.
Like I never was able to track it.
So.
My second was my first incident, which also happened in eighth grade.
And I was sitting in history class with the teacher that everyone thought was like the
hottest teacher.
Like everyone had a crush on this teacher in his class.
I get up from the door.
I get up from the chair.
Not only have I bled through my underwear.
Oh, my, my jeans.
It's all in the chair.
No, that's horrible.
You guys, can you predict what I did?
You sat there all day.
Ran away.
I just ran away.
To where?
I left class.
Cause that was the bell rang and I was like, well.
Get me out of here.
You left the blood on the seat.
Someone else is going to sit in there.
Oh, shoot, shoot.
Yes.
Shoot.
That is so.
Like.
I, I literally just froze and I was like, panic run.
Dude.
That's crazy.
And you know what I was wearing?
Everyone.
Everyone's got a guess.
White jeans.
Just as cami, white cami underneath my shirt.
Just pulled it all the way down.
You know, the cami.
The cami.
Yes.
Pulled that real far down.
Went to the bathroom.
I don't even, like, I just think I had very little coping skills with this type of thing.
I just was like, this is emergency.
Emergency.
Emergency.
I'm lagging out.
What's happening?
I just, I feel like I probably just did not do the sanitary thing.
I just don't know what I did.
Certainly not.
You left the blood on the chair for the next thing.
That certainly was not.
But even, like, where was I going after that?
Like, what did I do?
I, I would like to think that I went to my PE locker and changed into my gym shorts.
But then in my, my, thinking about my, like, middle school brain, I probably was like,
that will be so obvious that that's what happened.
So, I have no idea what happened.
But I just know that I, I'd fled the scene.
Did your mom bring you any clothes?
Did you text her?
I guess she was working, so she couldn't.
My mom did not stay home.
Yeah.
If you guys, like, start to bleed through or something like that, did you just, like,
wad up toilet paper?
Yeah, yeah.
Wad it.
Wad the toilet paper.
Set it in your underwear and hope for the best.
Make a little hamburger.
Literally.
I said so true.
I forgot about that.
The wad.
The wad.
The wad.
Okay.
So, yeah.
Just fled that scene.
Yeah.
Not proud of that.
My dad's, hopefully it was a boy, and he just wouldn't expect a period.
I don't know.
That's foul.
I mean.
I don't know.
It's natural, but that's.
I know.
But then if he got blood on his pants next, no one would say anything.
The next girl gets blood on her pants.
She's like, I swear.
Oh, man.
That's great.
Yeah.
That's a hard one.
That's, like, that's scary.
I think I was shocked because I had never really had a heavy cycle, but sometimes, like.
Yeah, you randomly do.
The first year, you're like, things are kind of crazy.
Mm-hmm.
They totally are.
I, my first, well, this wasn't my first incident.
This was an incident that, like, burned in my head, and it happened a couple times.
I was very scared of getting toxic shock syndrome, so I would refuse to sleep in tampons, which
was just silly.
You're not going to get it from sleeping in a tampon, right?
So, after a couple of these incidents, my friend was like, girl, just sleep in your
freaking tampon.
I.
I didn't like doing that.
I woke up multiple times at night, well, in the morning, and I would get out of bed, and
it would be massive blood spots on my sheets and my mattress.
Like, it bled through my bed multiple times.
That's a heavy.
So, here's what I would do.
Let me slow.
Here's what I would do for my solution.
I would put one maxi pad in the correct spot, and then I would put two maxi pads across
my butt.
So, I'd wear, like, a diaper almost.
Wait, on your bed?
No, like, I'd wear full.
I'd wear big underwear, and I'd put one maxi pad, you know, in the crotch, and then two
across my butt, because I didn't, I was so upset that it would, like, bleed through.
Because, you know, I lay on my back.
So, the blood.
The blood would travel down my crack.
I don't even need the details.
Did you get a puppy pad at this point?
No, honestly, I didn't know they made them.
Never had a dog.
Did you have, like, crampy, like?
I did have some cramps, but not, like, bad, bad.
You were pretty crampy.
Did you have, was it heavy?
It was not that heavy, no.
Wow.
But really, really crampy.
Yeah.
It only happened at night when I was laying down.
I was, I never had a painful.
Oh, period.
Mine, I would call my mom, and I would, like, leave school.
And so, I would, like, hope to, like, when I would start feeling cramps, like, I'd take
a Midol, like, right away and hope I could catch it before it got bad.
But if not, I have, like, so many memories of me laying on the bathroom floor, like,
crying to my mom in pain.
I said so many times, I was like, I don't know how I'm ever going to have a baby if
I can't get through my period.
Like, they were so, I'm like, if contractions or anything, like, period cramps, they were
so bad.
And so, yeah.
And then that's why I got put on.
I got put on birth control.
Did you ever grow out of that, like, now?
Yeah, they're not as painful anymore.
As soon as I got off birth control, they weren't as painful.
Yeah.
So, I'm like, was I a wimp?
Or did I do a drop a little bit?
Or, you know.
Because I was on it, too.
I went on birth control in high school.
I had cramps.
I don't think they were that bad.
But then, like, later in the years, like, I don't do birth control now.
And I feel like my cycle is so much more regular and way less.
I mean, it wasn't bad when I was on birth control.
But I just feel like maybe I was just young and, like, needed to give my body more time
to figure it out.
Probably the same.
Probably.
You know?
So.
I feel like mine was the worst in high school.
Like.
Yeah.
Freshman, sophomore year.
And then I got on birth control in junior year.
I also think about, like, what I ate in high school.
Ooh.
Certainly.
Certainly didn't help my cycle, my hormones.
That could be my problem.
That could have been my problem.
Oh, my gosh.
I certainly remember, like, hamming it up, though.
Especially, like, when I started dating Matt.
I would be like, I just want to be taken care of.
Of course.
So, I was like, oh, I'm on my period so bad.
And I was like, it's really over.
But, yeah, I never really had a.
Well, they don't know what I heard of.
I did feel like less of.
I wanted to feel that, like, sometimes.
I wanted to feel like a part of a club.
Oh, it's not a fun club.
It's not a fun club.
That was really naive of me.
That was, like, the same side of me that wished I had glasses and braces.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
Right.
Like, I just wanted to be a part of.
Sure.
I just wanted to be one of them.
Totally.
Totally.
This one, when I talk about the Diva Club having a learning curve.
Mm-hmm.
This, I was in college, obviously, when this all.
I was.
I was, like, not in high school.
Right.
established woman yeah a young woman and um i just remember this day i remember this whole day
just going south like it was like i had i worked i would work out in the morning and i had classes
like this i would like bulk my classes because it would help with my work schedule because i was
also trying to get married so i was like i gotta work and i gotta do school and i like so i would
do all my classes and then i had a uh like a really long shift at the pizza restaurant actually
no no this was at the cocktail lounge so i was working till really late like maybe like
10 or 11 i just had the longest day ever and it was going so bad like everything was going so bad
and then i had so much homework and i was just like so stressed out hadn't eaten much that whole
day and i gotta change my cup and i was at the house that we like addy lived at the house that
i lived in in college after i moved out anyway i pulled that cup out
spilled all over the bathroom rug the amount of things that have been on that bathroom floor
the rug oh and had been in all day yeah that rug and i it was literally like one of those moments
where i was like i like audibly made that sound because i was just like i cannot because i also
just knew i had so much homework i'm like i'm gonna be up all night i'm already so tired and
i'm on my period like there was just so many you do the taller thing you just throw the rest of it
down i just might as well dump it out we did and i just hear a knock at the door is matt and he's
like is everything okay i was like yes it's fine and then he's like what's wrong we're about to get
married like because this is around the time i started using the cup right oh yes three months
before he's like do you need do you need help and i was like no i'm just gonna throw this away
yeah honestly and then he's like i can clean it for you
and i'm like they're probably like this maybe was inappropriate in some fashion but
he cleaned that entire sweet that's not inappropriate it was covered in like it
was so covered it was so gross i never be like thank you so much in my head i was like it's not
even my rug that's really sweet yeah and matt cleaned that entire rug bless his heart and i'm
like doing my schoolwork and i'm also just like still kind of embarrassed because we're like oh
you're just like we're really close but we weren't married like we didn't like i don't know
and he was so nice and so gracious about it it wasn't didn't act gross out at all
yeah but i was like this was one of those things where i was like wow that's one to two tablespoons
you saying i was like wow i saw what it looks like on a bathroom rug it looks like a lot more
yeah yeah so yeah that was you gotta go slow with those right gotta go slow and be in the shower
maybe over the toilet yes i don't know if you've seen it but it's like it's like it's like it's like
i don't know how that even happened just like flung i know it's it's understandable but there's
a learning curve learning curve yeah that's a good one ab it happens to the best of us it was
i mean that graphic is in my head forever yeah i mean i wouldn't be honest if i wouldn't say
some blood ended up on my floor this last cycle like it's i just thought about the fact that our
editor is a guy our editor is a guy sweet sorry randy randy's sweet
he's like you'll never guess what i listened to for four hours today
he's gonna clip it up he's gonna ask her what do i cut out of this
ready make sure it's okay with your wife here
last story sorry okay my next story um okay when i was in fifth grade this isn't period blood but
this is related to like menstrual cycle stuff
i was at a track meet very hot day i'll never forget the setting of it and i started to feel
kind of sick like crampy painful i'm like man that's weird i'm best i think i'm really nervous
for my race i'm like i'm so nervous i'm having like stomach problems it was fifth grade it was
yeah it was just a low-key track team and i was so nervous my race i just must be really sick
and i remember the bathroom was really far from the track like the track was down below and it
was at a high school so you know you think about like football field in the school
way so i kept going back and forth to the bathroom thinking that i had to go to the bathroom
having the worst cramps and so then i'm i'm in the bathroom and i don't even realize it but i am
i'm actually screaming in the bathroom and my dad kicks the door in of the bathroom and i feel like
i'm gonna throw up and like i have to go to poop at the same time like i feel so sick and i'm like
moaning in pain and i'm screaming and my dad opens the door grabs me and runs me into the car
i was like screaming in pain they
thought i was having appendicitis what was happening was i was having an ovarian cyst burst
in the fifth grade and so i remember that my dad threw me in the car luckily we were really close
to a hospital and he rushed me to the er and he carried me i couldn't walk i know he ran me into
the er i was screaming in pain and i just remember they gave me some loopy gas and it was like i
turned my mood around so fast but they didn't know it was wrong so i do like the cat scan
and all that stuff and i just remember them saying this could happen potentially every time
he has a period because i mean we didn't know anything about ovarian cysts i've never had one
since but yeah i had an ovarian cyst burst when i was in the fifth grade wow yeah spend the night
in the er for that very crazy yeah but they gave me pain meds and you'd already had a period i had
never had my period no this is fifth grade i didn't get my period till eighth grade oh okay
isn't that so random and weird yeah but it felt like my appendix was bursting i know weird i had
a friend growing up that always gets cysts in her breasts really and they were painful really
sometimes they would rupture okay we have a couple more stories since this is going long
um just a friendly reminder that i just want to throw in there like patreon is just an entirely
added value additional thing yeah um for those of you that are able to opt in or are interested in
any way our episodes are actually longer now than they've ever been not including the patreon
this is really just an overflow because we can't shut our mouths um but it doesn't fit into a
normal podcast length so this is just a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a
entirely extra i'll say at this point before we're even going over to patreon we've already
recorded for an hour and a half and we're not even done there's gonna be more in the regular episode
too so that is it's really out of necessity of like wow this is just so much extra we're gonna
hop over there and just a couple more yeah funny extra bits yeah we're gonna do our stories and
then we started doing this i think it's fun taking a patreon exclusive question so someone who's a
part of the patreon community asked a question and we answer it on our bonus so it's like an extra
q a little part two yes yeah so we'll go do that and we'll come back thank you to shopify for
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shopify.com slash abby ask ask ask abby okay it's time for voicemails favorites hello chica lindas hi
my name is danielle i am also from one of the four corner states repping from new mexico and i love
your podcast so my question to you is what was like one of your most socially awkward moments
that you think you've had one of mine was i was watching a podcast and i was like oh my god i'm
in the grocery store and i thought this lady was talking to me turned out she had her airpod in
and um it was very awkward so i would love to know one of y'all's most awkward moments
um love y'all bye wait i want to know what she said it did you say chica chica that was really
cute it was so cute hello chica linda she's so cute i have so many but the problem about me is i
don't get embarrassed so it doesn't get seared in my mind
what was it like i want to remember them because i'm like please i want to have that story i love
telling a good story same especially where it's at my own expense i have one and this
oh is it the plane no not the plane that you already shared that one shared that one
okay i was at um our friend our friend did a collaboration with a big company
and i was sat next to her agent at this dinner
and um he was telling us about some of the people that he represented and two of them
were olympic athletes
out and they were pretty famous like they had gone viral a couple times and i was like caleb
telling him like oh my gosh this is amazing the guy what is in the special
i said the guy like he's a runner he's a truckster he has one leg he was in the special olympics
and the agent was like no no no he was in yes what's it called the paralympic he was in the
paralympics and i'm like i look at him i was like that is a mistake those things are very different
that is a mistake i felt so embarrassed i was like because then it was like not it's not
appropriate to laugh at that you know i don't know i just felt like you can't laugh at that
because it's not funny i'm just like but i just got that mixed up when i said it and i was so
embarrassed and i felt really i'm still thinking about it today i'm like telling these people that
yeah he i mean he didn't have a leg so it wasn't
like you know he's in the paralympics different disability different disability yeah yeah that
was a bad one that was really awkward that is really that's a good one also isn't like the
special olympics like your church can put on a special olympics yeah yeah yeah it's like a
charity more so yeah i really want to think of an embarrassing story guys i mean your your worst
most socially awkward moment was trying to have sex on the airplane yeah oh that is true that's
you haven't told us
story on this podcast that is the worst story i'll tell it i will tell you don't clip this
because then my mom will see it and she got mad the first time
the second hand panic i feel for you it hurts my stomach it hurts my stomach just think about it
it's like not a funny i don't know how you make if it hurts your stomach now i don't know how you
thought i think that i dissociated like i think my brain just left the building sorry it's so
do i have to tell the whole story okay i'll just give the clip notes so i don't know how long i've
been married almost seven years oh at the time now that's a newly married move two years you know
what he brings it up every time we get on an airplane you want to try again never freaking
learned his lesson i literally look at him with like daggers you have children children with you
i think it's like he just wants to remind me of how horrible that was
okay okay well let's just just do it really quick i'm pretty sure it was southwest
nor american economy flight nothing first class nothing private nothing surely not private what
the world nothing special not even not even premium economy and we just are driving it's
a long flight where are you flying to hawaii certainly okay such a long flight i think it
was from chicago to hawaii which is about nine hours too long apparently and
matt matt is like he's here's the thing he's been planting seeds for so long at this point
and i'm like fine give it a shot it's not like i was like yeah right now i was terrified but i was
also just like you know we're young we're in love great i love a good story
and it just it just gets so bad you guys i think the plan if i can remember through the blackout
that has happened in my brain i'm like i'm not gonna do it again i'm not gonna do it again i'm not
gonna do it again i think that one of us went to the bathroom first the other one went in after
this flight attendant you guys is knocking so hard and then i'm like panicking and matt's like
one minute like talking negotiating with her meanwhile nothing special is happening i don't
need to paint the picture for you but you know nothing special is happening right inside i'm
freaking out essentially and it's very close quarter
i can barely change a diaper in there just so everyone knows so i don't even know what
logistically we're gonna have i don't know how it works so then um then she starts hollering at us
through the door something along the lines of this is illegal
this is a full flight of people shoot full flight of people shoot every seat is filled
and she's like yelling and then like everyone's attention is now drawn
to the
restroom in the back oh daytime flight everyone's awake the sun's up windows open
the walk back to our seats afterwards i literally was like it's going to take
just something stronger than me to get my feet to move down yeah we were not in the back row
right all the way walking they talk about the walk of shame couldn't get worse than that i'm
sweating possibly get worse than that and that's one of those things where i'm like did they come
have a talk with you
after or something no she came back yeah you're right came back and was like that is illegal or
something like that oh man and what did i who knows what i said yeah that's what i did i doubt
i looked at her put my headphones on i doubt i looked i doubt i made eye contact with anyone
else on that flight and i doubt i slept that night and i doubt i ate a bite of food the rest of it
that's so real like not being able to eat about i'm like i oh my gosh so bad
it's so bad it's not funny like i can't laugh about it surely that flight attendant now has
like seen you guys somewhere for something and she's like she's like that i remember
i revoke that she never did they skip you for card service you don't deserve it i don't i have
no memory of the rest of the flight how long much longer did you have a good amount the beginning of
the edition of this story yeah honestly i need him to fact check me because i feel like i'm just so
curious how he was processing in my head there was like hours left
and i don't even think that we were seated alone like i think we were next to somebody else that
is such like a my brain is not fully formed yet move don't you thank god for prefrontal cortex
because you guys were like what 21 yeah 21 i think that's 21 yeah just reckless behavior
i'm ill it's hilarious i'm ill hey we've
grown you i'm ill they sing about it in all the rap songs and you just think let's do it
i was thinking i was literally i had never heard a rap song talking about the mile high club no oh
yeah no i knew what that was and i think we were just so dumb it's okay that's definitely your
awkward that will forever be my most embarrassing story that i'm like it can't get worse than that
right sure i really hope not i don't think so you're like that's as bad as it gets
i think that's the worst my mom will have words with me and i'm still scared of her even though
i love it oh i actually need to clear my mom's name that was my grandma that got mad at me oh
okay hi abby's my name is sarah and i'm from winnipeg manitoba and you guys are the first
podcast that i've actually ever fully listened to and i love that you got me started on that
anyways i am a new mom to my well i guess new age my baby's just turned six months um and we're
entering wedding season here and i'm exclusively breastfeeding and i'm trying to find outfits and
dresses and lots of them if they have bra straps showing they're not pretty so do you guys have any
tips or tricks or um ideas for wearing bras while nursing um stick on bras kind of scary a little
bit while nursing what have you guys done in the past you can't do sticky boobs no sticky boobs
that nipple free girl
any any moisture will oh boy i was literally just thinking about this like there's embarrassing
period stories and then there's a whole category of embarrassing sticky boob stories honestly
they end up everywhere embarrassing sticky boob stories also wait thank you so much for
listening to our podcast yeah thank you so much yeah i agree i would say here's my here's my
advice wear the bra that makes you feel the best about your boobs and weddings aren't over
stimulating experience anyway take that as a gift that you get to go in private and disrobe and feed
your baby and quiet totally like it's just just take that one yeah like honestly like even for me
as someone that i'm like i love i hate missing out on things anytime i would like leave an event to
nurse i was like oh it was a good wreck it was a good recollecting moment um but do wear one that
you can do wear a bra and not a sticky boob yeah i would say wear
the bra that you feel the most comfortable with and buy your dress to fit your bra
yeah i i haven't had to go to too many formal events but i mean just anything with a thick
strap and i know it's not always the most flattering but sometimes i'll wear like the
puff sleeve dresses you know yeah that was part of her question right like yeah what like what
kind of bra would you wear yeah you just got to wear your bra that you're the most comfortable
with and that fit your boobs and you just got to wear an outfit around and also in this stage like
six months out i feel like you could almost get away with wearing a tighter a dress with a tighter
bra and it can if you're worried much more comfortable yeah i i like that too if i think
there's just it's tighter on the top but you don't want to wear like a strapless bra i always like
take the pads out of like a sports bar so i'm gonna just shove them in there and then you don't
have to worry about the nips if you don't want them to show that is that great tip yeah good
reminder i always take the sports bra pads and i put the milk pad on it and i just move it from
bra to bra so actually i need to throw mine away now they're pretty nasty they've seen some days
they're like peeling at this point like the
um but yeah if you have a tight dress as a tight bodice like you're saying addy and you can stick
the bra pad in there with the
leakage it's great and then when you're nursing you just pull down i'll say this about bra straps
too i don't follow this because i'm like i don't like them showing but blake my husband always
tells me we know you're wearing a bra it doesn't matter if you see the straps i'm like thanks blake
but no i can't wear that bro i don't listen to him but at least he has that like he's like you're
wearing one it doesn't matter yeah like so true that over the shoulder what kind of bra are you
wearing right now none i'm wearing that uh i'm wearing the what's it called cakes oh you're
wearing a sticky it's not sticky that's what's great about it it's uh it it sticks but i wouldn't
have believed this if you would have told me this before i tried it it's suctions on oh but there's
nothing sticky because with sticky boobs when you take them off it's like does it give you support
or is it just it's just like coverage basically just so your my nipples aren't that's cool right
exactly
you
NEED TO WEAR A STICKY BABY
hi abby abby and addie congrats on your first guest that came on the podcast for the mother's
day episode um i know abby and matt have had great guests on unplanned um so my question for you is
what would be your dream guest on this podcast thanks have a great day bye that's cute congrats
on your guest
we had a different type of guest we got to figure out the seating arrangement i love that yeah we
have like non-family members yeah i have to treat them a little better probably
yeah i mean we're not really a guest podcast as of right now that's not necessarily like
we're a direction we want to move this show but i feel like in general who we just it's just
whoever we'd love to have a talk like i feel like devon would be so fun i was thinking of her too
i love devon yeah
we were saying she's just she definitely fits the vibe totally she would be so fun so fun we are
moving like our long discussion on to the patreon this is way too long and so we'll give you like a
little brief review you feel like we're cutting it out we've recorded for two hours and 14 minutes
please i'm getting my legs falling asleep he's like i can't keep looking at these guys
um what were we saying oh we're gonna rate the book we'll announce the next book and we'll give
like a little tiny maybe just why we gave it our stars
go for it okay we'll go deep into the whole discussion on patreon so i gave the book
two and a half stars listen i enjoyed listening to it i would have never liked reading this book
that's it okay okay it's five stars yeah i gave it four stars and i honestly think that i could
even bump into 4.5 okay i really like this book okay of course addy doesn't like it you guys
honestly
you
I will say i read 25 of it on the kindle and the other 75 i listened to over the course of
like yesterday and today yeah i did so it didn't i was kind of rushing through it i guess but
but i don't think my yeah my my one star is because i didn't care about anyone yeah no i
grew into liking the characters but i just felt like
let's be honest you guys only like romance books i think it took to like 85 to care
i enjoyed hearing about her life and i enjoyed that but i just overall was like
i don't think i'd recommend it it's not my style of book i'm not gonna think about it after i finish
it okay okay we could do more into on patreon that's my like review and my star dive into it
all right okay let's dive into the book club i knew you guys weren't gonna like it and as soon
as i started i was like i didn't dislike it i just wouldn't recommend it let me just actually
start off by saying this is a widely loved book i think it's a widely hit or miss book i think
that's probably my mom loves to read my mom didn't like it oh my god i think it's a it's a good audio
one survey i don't think i could have read it like and like understood the characters as well as i did
on audiobook so i will say audio gave it a higher yes audiobook is the way to go there's the different
characters the different like she said it gave it a bigger boosting she gave it a one star
he said he bumped it up
you would have not finished it yeah yeah i didn't pick it up once after i like
was at the spot reading it i never picked it up yeah what book are we reading next
yesteryear by who's the author caro caro claire burke mm-hmm caro book i've heard lots of things
about this book i have only heard that anne hathaway is doing a movie about it i'm i'm
very curious about this book is there an agenda yeah that's kind of the vibe i'm i'm curious to
see but i mean i'm sure it's gonna trigger me i hate reading about influencers isn't it funny
that that's like what books are about now yeah yeah that's what makes me i'm like wait this was
supposed to be fiction yeah i know i'm so curious this is supposed to be my release
um but yeah i'm excited to read it i mean there's obviously gonna be a movie about it
and i think we'll probably have a lot of thoughts on it yeah so how will an author
write depicting you know okay for those of you that don't know just to get you interested
it's supposed to be about a creator that creates like quote-unquote content and how like i think
there's some irony between her real life and like the content she puts online online i thought she
gets like transported back she actually has to live to like what she's depicting yeah which i
don't even actually necessarily follow trad wife content i mean i do some of it i love like some
of the inspiration how they cook and growing their gardens and stuff she wakes up to find
herself in 1855 forced to live the harsh reality of the 19th century
farm life contrasting sharply with her curated online persona okay i just don't want this to be a
a slam piece on ballerina farms i don't like her i don't see how this book doesn't have an engine
so then is this a bad idea no i think it'll be interesting okay we'll read it no and i'm sure
it's gonna be a good i mean i've been wanting to read it so yeah we should read it i think
it'd be a great book okay let's quickly do always hungry yes wrap this thing up this is a restaurant
or a recipe restaurant a recipe i've made for a couple years it is a one pan sheet pan dinner
which makes it a really good book i think it's a really good book i think it's a really good book
it's so easy um it's broccoli chicken sausage and potatoes the only beef is that this cooks for
an hour but it's very simple you mix things in the bowl you season it you put the potatoes on
first then after 20 minutes you shift the potatoes over put the broccoli on shift them put the and
then you drizzle everything at the end with maple syrup and it's unbelievably good maple syrup
unbelievably good i've made something like that before yeah but it didn't take an hour because i
didn't use potatoes okay that's probably what it is yeah and you put them all in one pan so it
but it's so simple three ingredients healthy filling so good yum yeah mine i actually just
tried for the first time last night but it was a winner uh my kids actually ate it which i was
really surprised by because whenever i try something new it's always like i don't know
see it was a shepherd's pie take on it but with gnocchi which makes a lot of sense when you think
about it because gnocchi is potato and so and it makes it a lot quicker and easier to make but it's
like the basically the filling of a shepherd's pie but mixed with gnocchi it's one pan
it's the pot you use to boil your gnocchi but that's just blood and water that takes two minutes
to boil and so i feel like it there is kind of a lot of ingredients but um it's stuff that you
probably already have yeah a lot of it and it was very cozy and warm i would say it's also a great
portion size for a family of four if you have a bigger family double it good good tip i would say
the same thing for the sheet pan it's great for three people also i didn't use lamb i used beef
because who's buying lamb i don't know who's buying oh i like lamb but i've never cooked it
but i'll eat it if it's served i feel sad to me yeah i'll eat if it's served i'll order it at a
minute it's probably more traditional in a shepherd's pie yeah shepherd shepherd lamb
well you guys got that thank you so much you got it you got it
well thank you guys so much for listening on this episode that was a fun one
this was so long i'm sorry this was really fun and i feel like we could talk a lot more about
women health women's health categories and i'm sure
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i recently found this podcast and i'm so happy i did abby abby and addie are kind curious and all
being a different but equally important perspectives as a working mom with a somewhat stressful job
this podcast encourages you to be a better person and to be a better person and to be a better person
encourages me and brings laughter to my day thank you for sharing your lives stories and
conversations that's really sweet that's so nice yeah thanks for saying that you guys
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Periods have historically carried shame and embarrassment, especially in adolescence, often due to societal taboos and lack of open dialogue.
The internet and social media have helped normalize discussions around menstruation, menopause, and women’s health, reducing stigma.
Many women report feeling more empowered and informed about their bodies as they grow older, especially after experiences with childbirth and hormonal changes.
Period products like pads, tampons, and menstrual cups are widely used, with shifts in preference driven by comfort, hygiene, and personal experience.
Menstrual cups and period underwear are gaining popularity as more women seek discreet, sustainable, and hygienic options.
The host reflects on personal milestones, including turning 30, and emphasizes the importance of embracing each stage of life with confidence and joy.
A key insight from the episode is that saying “yes” to small risks and experiences in one’s 20s can lead to greater opportunities and personal growth.
The conversation highlights how open conversations about women’s health—especially with men—are crucial for breaking down barriers and fostering understanding.
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This episode of *Always Here* combines personal storytelling with meaningful discussions on women’s health, identity, and life transitions. The hosts reflect on the stigma surrounding periods, especially in adolescence, and how societal norms—particularly from high school boys—have historically led to shame and secrecy. They credit the internet and social media for creating more open, honest conversations about menstruation, menopause, and reproductive health, which has helped normalize these topics.
The conversation includes personal anecdotes about first periods, the challenges of using tampons, and the benefits of menstrual cups and period underwear. A key theme is the shift in confidence and self-awareness as women age into their 30s, with the host emphasizing that personal growth comes from embracing experiences and saying “yes” to new opportunities. The episode also celebrates the joy of motherhood, friendship, and life milestones like a baby shower in Hawaii and a 30th birthday.
It highlights how small daily choices—like using a menstrual cup or choosing a healthy snack—can reflect deeper values of self-care and well-being. Ultimately, the narrative encourages listeners to embrace their bodies, celebrate their journey, and foster open, honest conversations about women’s health, both in their personal lives and in broader society.
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No, a normal menstrual cycle ranges from 21 to 35 days, not always 28 days. This variation is normal and common among women.
It's possible, though less likely, especially if ovulation occurs early or if a cycle is short. Pregnancy during menstruation is not impossible.
Women commonly use pads, tampons, menstrual cups, and period underwear. Pads are used by about 36% of people, while others prefer cups or discs for their comfort and hygiene.
Online discussions and social media have led to more open conversations about periods, menopause, and reproductive health, reducing shame and increasing education among women.
Menstrual cups are long-lasting, reduce waste, and are more hygienic than tampons. They can be worn for up to 12 hours and offer peace of mind by not requiring frequent changes.
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