Our First Steps on an Alien Planet - Journey to Planet Serpo | pt 3

So I saw this triangular mall UFO back in 2016 in November. I think it was in the town caught flat chair in North Carolina close to Asheville. And there's this the Blue Ridge Parkway is a big overpass that goes over I-26. And I was on the highway and the highway is a little bit loud but I had the windows rolled down. And I could see this craft that was around dusk and it was triangular and it was shining its light on the tree tops above me. And it wasn't there was no sound. There was no engine. It was perfectly quiet and it had a light on each of the triangle points. And I think it was a red light right in the center. And I was with a friend of mine in the truck and we were just hauling. We were like oh my god this is one of those things. I later reported it on the National, what is it called? The National UFO Reporting Center? Turn out that a lot of folks got stuff like that. Just a quick reminder that our episodes do not feature any AI-generated imagery and that the sketches featured in this episode are indeed done by a human artist. You can find their link below in the description. Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another episode of the Area 52 podcast. My name is Chris Ramsey and today we're going to be continuing our adventure to the planet Serpo. If you are not currently in the loop part one and two are available. And if you don't want to watch those the quick rundown is apparently we've had an exchange program with extraterrestrials after the Roswell crash. We've been in communication with these beings and then we then train 12 military personnel for several months. And this was approved by the president to exchange an alien and and twelve of our humans where we're going to send them off to a planet Serpo somewhere in the vicinity of the data-particular star system 39 light years away which takes ten months our protagonists have since been very ill during this travel especially in the time fields or the time warp sort of wormholes that they must pass through to get there. But now alas after this arduous journey our heroes have now arrived to planet Serpo and we for the first time will have a glimpse into another world another alien civilization do I believe this book not really do I not believe it not really I like the idea of acquiring knowledge in any way shape or form and I read a lot of science fiction books but the most stimulating ones are the ones that sort of brush up against my own reality and make me question whether or not these things actually happen to some extent perhaps maybe there's a seed of truth in here maybe we'll find it maybe something with the knowledge that we've acquired over the past few years of this channel that will stick out that will connect to another fact that we've uncovered and perhaps glean a little bit more on the existence of you know the potential existence of these extraterrestrials and our communication with them so folks if you are so inclined I would highly suggest leaving a like subscribing even and if I can 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the bills that I don't know all right don't know where I was going with that but just thought I'd mention it because I have attention deficit disorder okay very excited about this is is the first time that we get to have a glimpse at another planet well not not the first time we get to have a glimpse another planet but the first time I read anything about a planet in the Zeta reticulate star system so very interested in this now we read through the voyage the stoic commander otherwise known as skipper has shown himself to be quite the leader very worried about his crew one of the passengers has passed away due to a pulmonary embolism I believe and so as tragic as that is he was pilot number two you know he will be missed but really what are we doing here do we really need pilot number two we'll see the commander's diary describes the arrival on Serpo ebe one came in ebe one by the way quick little asterix I believe was the even that joined them the even that stayed on the planet during the exchange maybe or one or was it the one that was translating or was it the female ebe because there was a female ebe not sure how they could tell maybe just by the voice ebe one came in told us the journey was almost over let us to a hallway we got into a moving room and moved to another part of the ship wait wait we've established the voice of this character which I've completely forgotten pardon me ebe one came in told us the journey was almost over let us to the hallway we got into a moving room and moved to another part of the ship came out in a large room many items I can identify them they look like clothing chests or bedroom chests we were also led to a large table with food ebe one tells us to eat he said good food eat we all look at each other seven hundred and seven fifty four says let's eat okay we find plates seems like ceramic plates real heavy I chose something that looks like a stew and I got a biscuit same as we ate earlier the drinks were in metal containers same fluid we drank earlier we all ate very little tastiness to something like potatoes maybe cucumbers some type of stems not really bad the biscuits taste the same everyone sat and ate we found something like apples but didn't taste like apples sweet and soft I ate one leaves an aftertaste of my mouth team looks happy some are joking about not having any ice cream okay the MVC is in the room first time we saw him he speaks through ebe one the language really bothers my ears high-pitched sounds and the vocal tones sound very strange ebe one tells us the MVC wants us to prepare for landing see plate 13 okay how do we do that must go into the bowl room get into the bowl no one wants to do that but we have to we will do that we are led back to the moving room and travel back to the bowl room we climb into the bowl some use pot for relief of our bowels and bladders then climb into the bowl the lids close but we are awake just lie there fall asleep we see two sons the bull lids have opened my wristwatch says 1100 I guess it's still day one we climb out ebe one is at our side he tells us landing home okay I guess we're here we gather our gear 700 reminds us to wear our sunglasses once we exit. We pack up and walk down a long hallway, then in another moving room. We travel for one minute, then door open. We are in a large room. We see our stowed gear. Many smaller spaceships are stored here. A large door opens, bright light. See the planet for the first time. We walk down the ramp, large number of ebans waiting for us. We see a large ebant, largest one we've seen yet. He comes forward and starts speaking to us. eb1 translates a welcome message from the leader. I guess this guy's a leader. About one foot taller than the others. The leader tells us we were welcome to the planet. He called it something we do not understand. eb1 isn't doing a good job translating, but we are led to an open area. Looks like a parade field. The ground is dirt, looking up I see blue skies. The sky is very clear. We see two suns, one brighter than the other. The landscape looks like a desert. Arizona or New Mexico. No vegetation that we can see. There are rolling hills, but nothing but dirt. This must be the central village or town. We landed in an open area with large structures like electrical towers. Something is sitting on top of these towers. Start to sound more and more like John Marston. Well John Marston here. All right. Red dead reference. The mirrored tower, first of all, the fact that Skipper here hasn't mentioned the fact that they're not wearing helmets outside the plane to the ship is kind of wild. That's something that I would be very afraid of immediately. So I don't know if they were previously briefed on the fact that they will be breathing alien air and that the aliens, oxygen, nitrogen and everything else levels are exactly what humans require is kind of wild to me. That would be wild to me. On the center of the village is a large tower. Looks like a concrete structure, very large, maybe 300 feet. Looks like a mirrors place on top of this tower. All the buildings look like a doby or mudhuts. Some larger than others. Looking in one direction can't tell any actual compass ratings, but there's a very large structure. All the ebans are dressed in the same clothing, except for some of the ebans who are on the spaceship. Now I see others dressed in a dark blue outfit. Different from the others. Jeeben is wearing some type of box on their belts, all half belts. Can't see any children, but maybe they're the same size too. Our boots leave an imprint on the soil. The brightness is almost too much for our eyes without sunglasses. Looking around 360 degrees, I see buildings in bare and land. Can't see vegetation. I wonder where they grow their food. What a planet. Hard to believe. Hard to believe we'll have to live here for ten years. But a journey of a thousand miles begins with one footstep. I can't remember who said that, but that just came to mind. Ten years. Ten years on an alien planet. What the hell. Could you imagine being so calm? I'm surprised not one of these people have just absolutely lost their mind and begun like screaming and punching random ebans. Like there's nothing stopping anyone from doing that. I feel like when faced with this type of ontological shift, I mean one out of ten people is gonna start drop kicking some ebans. I would assume. Maybe the training is really good. I'm not saying I would. I'm not saying that under those circumstances, my mind wouldn't break and I wouldn't consider it. I'm not saying that. Interestingly, the ebans offload of the supplies and equipment onto 16 separate pallets. The commander was not able to view the offloading procedure, but apparently it was accomplished very quickly. So it seems likely that the ebans manually transferred everything to 16 pallets and then floated the pallets into the underground storage area. Sometimes they were able to make the heavy items waitless when they moved them onto the pallets. CERPO is a rather desolate looking planet and the commander is clearly not very happy about what he sees in his words. What a planet. Hard to believe we will have to live here for ten years. We later learned that this is not the ebans native planet, but was chosen as a refuge after the volcanic devastation of their home planet. Okay. So a volcano. Travel through wormholes, but they get wiped out by a volcano. Yeah. Sounds about right. Welcome to Planet CERPO. The large number of ebans are welcoming us. They seem friendly. Then almost shocking us, someone speaks English. We all look around and see an ebans. The ebans speaks very good English. This ebans we call EBE2. It's almost fluent English, with the exception of not really pronouncing the letter W. Well, how's he pronounced it? Like a V? Viva Vait, for you. But eb2 does a good job speaking English. eb2 says we are welcome to Planet CERPO, okay? That is the name of their planet. eb2 shows us a device and tells us one of us must wear it. Looks like a small transistor radio. We put it on our belts. The weather is extremely hot. Ask 633 to take temperature. Says 107 degrees, very warm. We take off the top jacket, and that leaves us with a one piece flight suit. They all look alike, all right? I wonder if that's actually the case, or if that's just, you know, 60s talk. You know what I mean? Yeah, you all look alike. I don't know. Might be racist. The ebans look at us, but seem very friendly. Remember wearing some type of shawls. I asked eb2 about that, eb2 says they are females. Okay, I see. They all look alike. Really hard to tell one apart except for uniform. Some have different colored uniforms. I asked eb2 about that, eb2 says military uniform. Okay, that makes sense. eb2 leads us to a series of huts, looking like a doby style houses. There are four. Behind them is an underground room, or storage area. It is built into the ground, underground. We have to walk down a ramp. The doors look like a military igloos that store our atomic bombs on earth. All our gear taken off the spaceship is stored there. We walk down in this area, very large room, very cool, a lot cooler. Might have to sleep here. All our gear is there, 16 pallets, gear. This igloos is made up of something like concrete, but not the same texture. Feels like soft rubber, but still hard. The floor is made of the same stuff. There are lights in the ceiling, looks like spotlights. They have electricity. We must inventory all our gear sometime. We go back to huts. The huts are cooler than outside, but still very warm. We must get organized. I tell eB2, we will need to be alone, and get organized. eB2 then, I realize eB2 is a female, says, okay, we will be left alone. I ask for the body of 308. eB2 seems to be confused and doesn't know about anybody. I explained eB2, held her hands across her body and bowed her head. It was really an emotional sight because she was almost crying. eB2 told us that the body would be brought to us. We must check with our trainer. The word trainer kind of shocked me. eB2 in training and someone is teaching her? Or is the word trainer an eB in something different in English? Maybe that means leader or commander. Don't know. But eB2 left. I told 203 to gather every one of the lower storage area. We will have a team meeting. 633 suggested we start the calendar as of today. It is 1300 hours on our day one. One plan is sirpo. Hot bang. I like how mid-conversation he was like, oh, she's a woman and the shawl being the only difference is kind of wild. They'd be very confused here on earth if they went to Italy. All right. The team was able to use all their electrical appliances. They plugged them all into the sealed black box and they all worked. It is believed that the team was also able to use eBn device that they developed to communicate with earth. There didn't seem to be anything to prevent this except for these slits. impossibility that it only worked with the Eben language. But even in that case, the Eben's would have translated messages into English. For some reason, anonymous never discusses the utilization of the communications device by the team. Okay, that's kind of strange that there's like a back and forth instant communication through space and time. That's quite wild. It is interesting to note that the Eben's have electricity, but no air conditioning. This is one of the many paradoxes of the Eben technology and civilization. They are advanced and civilized, and yet they are primitive and simple at the same time. Yeah, that is interesting. Maybe they know something about AC that we don't. The female alien that the team commander designated as EBE2, who speaks excellent English, is clearly the same EBE2 who translated the yellow book and who presented it to our greeting party at the first landing in April 1964. And who also translated the conversation at the time. It is coincidental that she was given the same name both times because none of the team members had been present during the greeting at the April landing. They were all waiting in a bus. Her emotional reaction in this bit of drama regarding the body of 308 reveals a sympathetic and compassionate nature, which the team learned was generally characteristic of this race. As we will see, this first incident about the recovery of 308's body was the opening round of what turned out to almost become a major diplomatic problem very early in the game. In this next diary entry, we see that EBE2 becomes a very important link between the team and the other Eben's. Maybe they have books about Earth. We had a serious problem. How do we explain to our science to an alien entity who doesn't know Einstein, Kepler, or any of the other scientists of our time? Simple mathematics seem so foreign to them. EBE2 is a smart one. She seems to understand our language more than one and two. She even seems to understand our basic math. We started with basic math, two plus two, and then progressed on. She understood and even caught on so quickly that she continued without her help. We realized that she has a great IQ when she repeated a thousand times a thousand and came up with an answer. We showed her our slide rule. Took her a couple of minutes to figure it out, although I don't think she fully understood all the symbols on the slide rule. She is really something. We found a personality in her. Maybe because we have more contact with her than the others. She is very warm-hearted. One can just sense that in her. She really cares about us. She even worries about us. During our first night, she seemed to make sure everything was just right for us. She warned us about the heat and the light she mentioned that Serpo does not get dark like Earth. I wonder how she knew that. Is she visited Earth? Maybe she's just educated on Earth properties. Anyway, on the first night, she told us about the winds. What winds? Gusty winds start just within the one sunsets. The other sun does not, but stays in the lower horizon. The winds blow dust, free dust into our huts. We had a very difficult first night. We call it night because it seemed that the ebans just call it a period of their day, e.b.e.3, e.b.2. New the word day, but didn't compare it to Earth's day. Maybe she hasn't been to Earth. We didn't sleep well during our night. The ebans don't sleep like we do. They seem to rest for periods of time and then wake and go about their business. Whatever that might be. When we awoke, e.b.e.2 was there outside our hut. I opened the door and she was waiting. Why? How did she know we were awake? Maybe the huts are being monitored by some sensor. e.b.e.2 told us to follow her to the eating place. She didn't use the word dining hall or chow hall or facility. She used the word place. All right, first off, keep it in your pants, skipper. I feel like this guy is getting a case of the serpogogles. He might be spending a little too much time away from home or other humans. He sounds a little too intrigued by this eb.e.2. Watch a love start blossoming. I mean, I wouldn't be against it. I think that that's exactly what this story might need. All right. The fact that the team use a slide rule for computations really dates this entry and authenticates the timeframe. The introduction of inexpensive scientific calculators in 1974 made the slide rule virtually obsolete. But in the 1960s, all engineers routinely carried slide rules on their belts. In fact, the fact that eb.e.2 was able to quickly understand the use of the slide rule with its cryptic symbols tells us a lot about the high eb and intelligence. The commander speculates that perhaps eb.2 had visited Earth. At this point, he did not know that eb.e.2 had indeed visited Earth in April 1964. And evidently, he knew nothing about the yellow book or he would have been informed that she had been the translator. The fact that mj12 kept this very important piece of knowledge from the team is astonishing. In this case, the paranoia and secrecy went too far. This team had given up a real deal to make this journey and they deserved to know everything possible about the planet that would be their home for the next 10 years. Someone should have briefed them about the yellow book. I agree. How much secrecy is too far? We are the aliens. Once I gathered the team, we walked across the village. I'll call it a village for the sake of wording. We entered a large building. It seemed to be large, based on the small stature of the ebens. It was food on tables. I guess we'd call this place a chow hall. Ebens looked at us, but carried on eating. Did they not cook inside their huts? Maybe everyone eats here. We walked to the food tables. Same food we saw on ate on the spaceship, except some items were different. They had large bowls, something like fruits, strange-looking things. They also had something like cottage cheese. It tasted like sour milk, but after the initial taste, all right. I encourage each team member to eat and drink. I as well get used to the food. But 700 tells us to eat just one of their meals a day and stick to our sea rations for the other meals. That way, our system will adjust to the ebens food. We sat at a table, small compared to our standards in eight. The ebens numbering probably about 100. Just eight didn't really bother us. Every now and then, we'd catch ebens staring at us, but we were the freaks, not them. We are the visitors. We are the aliens. We must look strange to them. We all look different. They all look the same. Again, I can't help but think that they do look different. It's just this guy, you know, he just, it's the 60s man, you know what I mean? All right, it makes me laugh. Okay, how can they compare us to them? They can't. We stare at them and they stare at us. We see a different looking ebens, very strange looking creature, large, long arm, almost floats along with long legs. Can't be an ebens. We all stare. This creature just floats by us and didn't even look at us. I find eb too. She's eating with three others. Once I approach her, she stands and almost bows her head towards me. Maybe just a greeting? Have to remember that. I ask her about the creature we saw. I ask if it was some other type of ebens. eb too seems confused. She asked me what creature? I used the word creature. Maybe that was an insult or maybe she didn't know the word. I pointed to the thing at the other end of the building. She then saw what I meant. eb too said no ebens. Just visitor like you pointing to me. Okay, I see. They have other alien visitors here. I guess we're not the only ones. I then ask eb to what planet did that visitor come from? eb too said something like Korta. Not sure of the exact word. Although I asked her to repeat it twice. Okay, where is Korta? She walks me to a television. At least it looks like one. It's positioned in the corner of the building and it's set up like some type of command station. She places her finger on the glass and something appears. Bit of an asterisk here. This technology is now commonly used by television anchors, commentators and meteorologists. They routinely manipulate images on the television monitors using their fingers and bring up statistical underpinnings. And it is used like the iPad and all the new tablets. Quite possibly the ebens helped us develop this capability. Okay, the universe star systems. I don't recognize any of them. She points to a spot and says, Korta. Okay, where's Earth? She points to another spot and says, Earth. Based on this. television glass space map, Corda and Earth are very close. But I don't know the scale of this map, maybe there are a trillion miles apart or maybe 10 light years, but they seem close. I'll have to have one of the scientists look at this, see. Okay, I thank EBE2, she seems pleased. She almost looks like an angel. She seems so very nice. She touched my hand and pointed to my table and said eat. Good eat? I laughed and said, yes, good chow hall food. She looked puzzled. I guess she doesn't know what a chow hall is. I pointed to the building and said chow hall, earth eating place. She repeated what I said, chow hall, earth eating place. I laughed and walked away. Now she will think all earth restaurants are called chow halls. The description of the creature from Corda sounds very much like an alien we now call the mantis because it resembles a praying mantis. Many contactees have reported seeing these aliens on spaceships when they were abducted. They are invariably described as kind and compassionate beings. Thank God, thank goodness, Jesus. (sighs) The fact that aliens from other star systems are permitted to freely mingle with the populace testifies to the galactic cosmopolitan nature of Serbo. In the chow hall incident, we see that a very affectionate trusting relationship is sprung up between Commander and EBE2, who has evidently been designated as their combination translator, guide and hostess. All right, so I definitely didn't read into something too much. It was there. A loves a brewing, loves a blossoming. Love to see it. I'm actually in favor of this. I love when the, just like in, you know, the Loserda files, you felt a little bit of a thing, right? Now what's different about the Loserda file so that she can, you know, obviously, she can be a reptilian-like entity, but she can more for, or in your mind at least, look like something entirely different. This guy's just into grades at this point. He said it himself, they all look the same. So either he's really into all of the grades or he's just a personality guy. Those are the options. 11, adjustment. The team commander's record of the first day on Serbo continues. We returned to our huts. We must get better organized. We have a meeting. Everyone seems okay. We wonder about latrines. Where do we relieve ourselves? EBE1 comes by almost as if he was reading our minds. Maybe they can even do that. He tells shows us pot in hut. We all wondered what that was. Okay, that is our latrine. Realize that won't work very well, but we'll do we can. Then we realize the pot has some sort of chemical inside. Our wastes are dissolved or something like that. Can't really tell. Each of the four huts has one. That'll work for the time being. I've got to take a dump. No, he didn't say that. I just had of that, sorry about that. Must be over 140 degrees. Wow. Okay, very hot on this planet, indeed. EBE1 tells us to walk on ground. Not sure what he means by that, but 420 says that it might be to just walk around. Okay, that we will do. I organize the teams 102 will remain with 225. I want 633 and 661 to look at the television glass map to see if they can tell which star system is quarter. I ask 518 the biologists to take a temperature readings in general weather observations. I know it's hot, very hot. 754 warns us to keep covered from sun radiation. 754 says radiation levels are high. It doesn't sound very good to me. It reminds me of Nevada, 1956 during the atomic bomb testing. We had hot weather. We had to worry about the radiation for the atomic blasts. Now we're on a strange planet, 40 light years from Earth and we have radiation and heat, but we have to explore. That is why we're sent. We start walking around 475 will take photographs with our military cameras. I hope the film is not affected by the radiation. How do we develop it? Maybe we didn't think of everything. I team up with 225. We walk to a large open door building. We walk in and it looks like a classroom, but no ebens are here. There's a large television tube. Takes up an entire wall. There are some lights flashing on this television tube. We examine the tube. It's very thin. But maybe there are more advanced in this area than us. They must be. We don't find or touch anything else in this building. We move on. Wow. It's so very hot. I hope I get used to it. So they got flat screens. There you have it. Flat screen technology in the 50s and the 60s. What is this? An alien planet? I forgot to ask you guys. What's your conviction level so far on this whole thing? I want this to be real so bad, by the way. Like I want nothing more than for this entire story to be 100% accurate. I'm not quite there, but I'd be curious to know, you know, is there something in this story? Obviously the whole thing sounds a little preposterous, but is there something in this story that rings more true or that was perhaps seeded or inseminated into this book? Is there something that rings more true than something else? What is that detail? For me, it might either be the time travel stuff, like the wormhole stuff. I love that concept. Or just the fact that there was some type of meeting. But let me know what your thoughts are. And as for the binary star system, is anyone out there like into geophysics or astrophysics that could corroborate, you know, whatever they said about the temperature, the time of day, and that type of thing, I wonder. I might not be smart enough to understand how that would actually work, or would it be some sort of three body problem where it would spin chaotically out of orbit or collide? The Commander's comparison of conditions on Serpo with the 1956 atomic bomb testing conditions in Nevada, especially with regard to radiation exposure tells us that he must have been involved in those tests. This is the second piece of information revealed about the Commander's past. We previously learned that he was from Colorado, the huge thin television tube without electronics showing sounds suspiciously like our modern flat screen televisions. Once again, was this technology given to us by the ebens? It's interesting that the Commander is surprised by that. They are more advanced in this area than us. Why would he be surprised that they are ahead of us in television technology when he knows that they have mastered time travel? It's a great question. How he's like, time travel, okay. TV's. What the hell? The Commander continues. We find a large tower. Looks like an antenna tower, but it has a large mirror. We saw this when we first arrived yesterday. We find an ebens stand near the door, but he moves aside. We ask him if he understands English. He just stares at us, but seems friendly. I guess he doesn't speak English. We move on into the building. Can't find any stairs, but we see some type of round glass room. Maybe it's an elevator. Then we hear English. We turn around and find eb to standing there. Where did she come from? I ask her if we may explore this building. She said yes, of course. She points to the glass room and says go up. Okay, we enter the glass room. The glass door closes and goes up real fast. No time we're at the top. The sun dial tower. But what is this? We ask eb to, what is this? She points to the sun and then points to the top of the room where the mirror is located. She then points to the ground. Okay, we see it. The tower is in the middle of the circle. The circle is situated on the ground. In each quadrant of the circle is a symbol. I see that the sun is directed through the mirror. Maybe this isn't a mirror as we know it since the sunlight travels through it. But once the sunlight travels through it, the light is directed on a symbol within the circle. eb to says that when the light contacts the symbol, then ebens make change. Not sure what that means. Maybe she means it tells the ebens what to do. do. 225 seems to think it's a sundial. When the sun strikes a symbol, the ebans change what they are doing and do something else. Maybe the ebonday is structured, or maybe this is their clock. Strange. But we are on an alien planet. I'm glad I still have my sense of humor. We have to start using ebonday. This is only our first day, first day of school. I have a lot to learn. I have to keep an open mind. I can't keep comparing things to earth. I have to open our minds, new ideas, new science. All these things are foreign to us, but we must learn. I pointed to my wristwatch and then pointed to the ground in a gesture to show eb2 that the two items are timepieces. Not sure if she understood. But I said time and she then understood, yes, she said, even time pointing to the ground. I pointed again to the wristwatch and said earth time. eb2 then almost smiled and said, no, no earth time on serpo. 225 said, she just told us that earth time doesn't work on serpo. Yes, I guess she did. What good is our watches or time devices here? They don't work. But we must also maintain our time because we must know when to leave. Ten years seems like a million. Maybe based on ebonday that it might just be a million years. Let's hope not. No time to think about home. We have a mission and duties to perform. We are a military team and we must maintain that idea. 225 of myself go back into glass bowl and go down to the ground. The sketch shown here was made by the team commander to attempt to capture his view of the base of the mere tower. He considered this important enough to draw because the sun's focus on these objects dictated the day's activities for everyone in the community. Each community had such a tower. C-Page 142 for what anonymous says about the commander's sketch. It should be noted that anonymous claims the sketch was made in 67. Since the team arrived on serpo in mid 66, obviously the sketch was not made on the first day of the planet, but a few months later. The words and brackets were added by email recipient and editor Victor Martinez. Anonymous mentions, drafting templates to explain that these templates were used to make the sketch. It is not a free hand drawing. Web site moderator Bill Ryan adds the following information about how it was drawn. It is since and shown conclusively that this drawing was made with a barrel, rapid design, R-22, architect drawing stencil. However, it is also known that this very common template was on the market a number of years before serpo mission departed in 1965 and may well have been included among the equipment taken by the serpo team. Cool, another corroborating piece of minor corroborating piece of evidence here to support this event at least being made up in the 60s. Comments by Anonymous about the sketch. A great deal of planning went into the 10-year mission to serpo. Several teams of officials planned what equipment to take. These officials try to imagine every conceivable situation where certain types of tools and other equipment might be needed. One area was capturing the view and makeup of objects, artifacts and landscapes on planet serpo. The mission team took cameras, 16 different types of cameras and drawing drafting equipment. Although no team member was trained in drafting, three team members had drawing experience from their college days. Several different types of drafting templates were taken on the trip. The planning officials tried to envision every type of situation where a template might be needed. The drawing made by the team commander depicts the base of the sundial. Each object meant a certain time of day to the ebans. When the sun was directed through the sundial, onto the object at the base of the sundial, that meant a specific task or change of to the ebans. For example, it might signal a change in work schedules, a time to rest, a time to eat, a time to celebrate, etc. After a few years, the team learned each symbol and learned the meaning of each symbol. This drawing is a copy of the actual drawing made by the team commander in 1967. The team also took many photographs of the sundial symbols. The regimentation of the ebans society is surprising. Our team was able to determine the average IQ of the ebans was about 165 on our scale. It wouldn't be expected that aliens with such high intelligence would subject themselves to such rigid control over their daily activity. On Earth, we associate creativity with complete freedom of expression, and we understand that creative people must be permitted to live, perhaps, eccentric lives. We actually expect writers and artists not to conform to conventional patterns of life. Perhaps this is the key. The ebans did not display the sort of individuality that we have, and consequently, there was little or no creativity in the ebans race. They are not very innovative. They simply accept the precedents and follow the rules handed down to them from earlier generations. Intelligence alone does not guarantee creativity. From this, we can begin to appreciate the unique qualities of the human soul and the importance of diversity. Couldn't agree more. Eben food. Let's talk about this paper mache, this tasteless stuff. Actually, there's stuff that has tastes like apples, and they got fruits there too, which is cool. Eben food. We walk into another building, large again. Inside, we find rolls and rolls of plants. There must be some sort of greenhouse. They're growing food. Many ebans are inside. They look at us with some glares. We just walk in and around. One eben comes up to us and speaks, but an eben. He seems to be telling us something. He points to the ceiling and then to our heads. Maybe he's telling us to cover our heads. We must find ebe2. We go back outside and then find ebe2. She always seems to be near. Now we understand why. She's monitoring us by the devices we are wearing on our belts. Ebe2, what is that building? She says, "Food making place." Okay. Maybe we can terminate the place. We told her that another eben spoke to us and then pointed to our heads. Ebe2 seemed confused and walked back into the building with us. The same eben exchanged words with ebe2. Ebe2 then told us that we must wear cover on our heads in order to enter. Why? What we didn't argue is other eben produces some sort of cloth hat and we wear it. We walk about. The eben seemed happy. We look at their plants. They're growing food and soil. They have a watering system. They also have some sort of transparent cloth over each plant. I point to the watering system and ask ebe2 if that is water, drinking water. Ebe2 said yes and then senses we are thirsty. Two leads us to a place near another entrance and offers us water. At least we think it's water. Tastes like chemicals, but it is water. Actually tastes good. This is another example of eben technology that seemed novel to our people at the time in the mid-1960s, but hydroponics now commonly use here to grow vegetables. It permits complete inexpensive control over plant growth and requires no soil. It is beginning to appear that we learned a great deal from our Serpo experience. In his sixth information release anonymous gives the following details about the eben food, taken from the 3000 page debriefing document that he had in his possession. My god, 3000. Also, interesting, at first I was like, okay, flat screens. I guess we got that from the aliens, but more and more, how cool would it be if the stuff that we have around us is at least partially influenced by the journals of this guy? That was a real thing. It's probably where ping pong came from. Alright. Food was a problem for our team members. Our team consumed most military-style sea rations, but eventually had to switch to eben food. The eben's had a variety of food items. They grew vegetables. Our team found items similar to potatoes, but they tasted different. They had some type of lettuce, turnips, and tomatoes. They were the only items similar to ours. The eben's had other vegetables grown. These were strange looking round items with long vines. The eben's cooked the vines and ate the large portion of the plant raw. The eben's had some type of white liquid, which we first thought was a form of milk, but after tasting in our team realized it was different, both in taste and content. The liquid came from a small tree, located in the northern portion of the planet. The eben's literally milked the tree for the liquid. And appeared to be some sort of pleasure to drink the stuff. Our team members never got a real taste for the liquid. The eben's cooked food. They make pots of stew, which was extremely tasteless to our team. We used a lot of salt and pepper. They also baked a form of bread. It was a non yeast bread that tasted fairly good, but caused extreme constipation to our team members. We had to drink large quantities of water in order to digest the bread. The one common food that the ebens in our team members liked was the fruit. The ebens ate a great quantity of fruit. The fruit, although different, from anything we saw, was sweet. Some of the fruit tasted something like melons while others tasted like apples. Another problem was the water. The water on Serpo contained a number of unknown chemicals found by our team. Our team eventually had to boil the water before drinking it, seeing this, the ebens built a large plant that processed water for our team. How kind of them? I like these ebens. Eben elimination. Okay. Anonymous continues. The ebens did not have a physiological need to release body waste as we did. The ebens had small collection locations in the residence for their body waste, but the ebens body was extremely efficient in processing all food taken in. Their body waste consisted of a small amount of fecal matter, similar to a small cat robbing. Our team members never saw any urine excretion from an eben. On the other hand, our team members' wastes consisted of bulk quantity of both fecal matter and urine. The eben had to dig large waste reception sites for our 12 team members' wastes. The ebens accommodated our team. How kind of them? They seem very kind and friendly, but this goes against a lot of the modern lore that states that the eben just pooped through their skin. Some poopers is the scientific technical term, I believe, um, instead they poop like cats, apparently, and they don't pee. Hmm. Disappointing. 12. Confrontation. Okay. Some drama. And fourth, this would be a long-term project which it would take generations of totalitarian control to bring to a successful conclusion, a foolproof system of eugenics designed to standardize the human product, and so to facilitate the task of managers, forward by Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, okay? Ominous. Following the death of 308 on the trip to Serpo, the ebens took control of the body without explanation. Upon arrival, a team commander requested the body of 308 and was told that was not possible. In the following diary entry, the commander relates how his attempt to retrieve the body escalated into a tense confrontation and how EBE2 tried desperately to defuse the situation. It took all 308's blood. Leader of the ebens is a larger creature than the others and he seems to be more aggressive than the other ebens. When I write aggressive, I don't mean in a hostile way. He seems to be the boss similar to me as a team commander. Its voice, although after all this time I still can't understand any words, is harsh with the tone that is different from the rest. Two or three claims the leader has an attitude. I agree. He's extremely friendly to us and has accommodated all of our requests. The leader has requested many things from us, most of which we have provided. One strange thing is our blood. You wanted all of us to supply a blood sample. To explain that the blood, or health fluid, is to explain it, was necessary for them to supply any medicine to us if we should ever need it. 754 feels that a blood sample might just be used for other purposes. We have allowed the ebens to utilize 308's body for experiments. They took all 308's blood. That was without my approval. It's a little hypocritical. Didn't we also exume and atop see the bodies that crash at Roswell? I feel like there's a bit of a double standard here with what we're allowed to do with their bodies and what they're allowed to do with ours. I wrote about that in log 3888. We had a very tense situation with the ebens about that. We traveled to the building, housing 308's body, we were confronted by several ebens, ebe1. This ebe1 is the ebe leader referred to above. He's not the same as ebe1 who crashed at Roswell. Showed up and I explained that we wanted the body of 308. One told us that we will take it. The 11 of us walked by the ebens numbering 6 and walked into the building. They did not attempt to stop us. While inside, we could not open any of the containers. There was some type of system, maybe crypto style. That was being used to lock the containers. We did find the container housing 308's body. We decided to send 899 out to storage area and get some explosives to open the container. eb2 showed up with the leader. Two was extremely polite and asked us to wait. She used the word "please" several times. In fact, she actually used the English word "begg". We backed off and I told eb2 that I wanted our friend's body, and we wanted to examine it. Two translated that to the leader. There was a long exchange of words between the two, finally two seemed very frustrated, told us the leader would like us to go to another location and speak with another ebent, a doctor, about the body of 308. To explain that everything we wanted to know about 308's body would be explained to us by the ebend doctor, who two said spoke English. I told two that I would leave 899 and 754 here to guard the body, and I would take the others to the location containing the doctor. Two translated that to the leader, again there was a long drawn out exchange of words between the two. It lasted for several minutes, finally, two stated that the leader would like all of us to leave this building and go visit with the doctor. I told two no. I would not leave the body of 308 alone. I felt that this was going to be a confrontation. I told 518 and 420 to go back, obtain our handguns and come back ASAP. I was not going to allow the ebend to counterman my decisions. When ebent to heard this, she told me to wait, placed her hand against my chest. I told her to translate that to the leader, again, there were several minutes of word exchanges between the two. Two then stated that the leader would bring us the doctor here to discuss the situation with us, to ask me to please stop, don't send your men for guns. Guns are not needed. We can settle this without guns, please don't. I told two that we would not get the guns, but we would not leave until we saw 308's body. The leader did something with the communication device on his belt. About 20 minutes later, three ebends showed up inside the building. One of the ebends identified himself as a doctor and spoke very good English. The doctor had a strange sounding voice, almost like a human's voice. The doctor did not have a high pitched accent, like 1 and 2. I was very impressed with this doctor. I just wonder where he's been for the past 18 months. Never saw him before. This doctor told us the 308's body was not inside the container. The ebends have done experiments with 308's body because they considered it an honor to have such a specimen to work with. The doctor told us that they used 308's body to create a type of cloned human being. I stopped the doctor at this point. I told the doctor that the body of the teammate was the property of the United States of America. Planet Earth. The body did not belong to the ebends. I did not authorize any experiments on the body of 308. I explained that humans consider a body to be religious. Only I could have authorized the use of 308's body for experiments. I demanded to see the body. The doctor explained the body was gone. This doctor said all the blood body organs were taken out and used to clone other beings. The use of the word beings really scared me and the others. 899 became extremely angry. He called the doctor's curse names. I ordered 899 to be quiet. I then told 203 to take 899 out of the building. I realized this matter could really blossom into a major incident. I could not allow that to happen. There were just 11 of us and we realized that if the ebends wanted to imprison us or kill us, they could do it very easily. But I didn't think the ebends would resort to such behavior. I was not going to allow the incident to advance into something worse. I realized there wasn't much we could do about what the ebends have done with 308's body. Again, I reiterate. Who who? How many of these bodies have we torn apart, right? But this guy probably doesn't know that by now and this is the 60's and he is perhaps, you know, somewhat of a religious fellow. eb2 looked very upset. 2 told me that everyone should be nice. She repeated the word nice many times. 2 did not want this matter to escalate. I kind of felt sorry for 2. She was trying to mediate the matter. 203 suggested we return to our living quarters and have a meeting. I told the leader that I did not want any further interference between whatever is left with 308's body and experiments. I pointed my finger towards a leader's face. Two translated along with the doctor. The doctor who is extremely straightforward told me that nothing further would happen with the body, but advised me very little was left of the body. To then told me the leader was concerned that we were upset, that we were their guests, that the leader was upset that we were offended. The leader did not wish to upset us and promised that nothing further would happen to the body. I thanked to and had her relay that to the leader. Everyone was upset, especially 8.99. I told each member to calm down. I explained our situation as if each team member didn't already realize it. That we were only 11 military personnel, we had no way of fighting the ebans. We did not come 40 light years to start a war with the ebans, a war we could not win. We could not even win a simple fist fight with these ebans. Yes, maybe we could beat them up, but what then? We have to realize that our situation enact accordingly. I ordered each member to reconsider the situation and to accept the facts about 308's body. I told 633 and 700 to investigate the cloning procedure with the English speaking ebans doctor. Let's get all the facts about what they did with the body and what we can find out about the body and the ebans experiments with the body. Alright, bit of a dramatic turn here. I liked how they were like, "What do you mean? We just took the body apart and cloned it. I hope that's fine." Again, we probably ended up doing the same thing. It is funny how primitive our hip-check sort of reactions are in comparison to their culture. Immediately, he's like, "Get my gun. Go get my gun." The ebans are like, "Whoa, hold on. We didn't want to upset you or make you angry." Immediately, we don't even resort to anything other than get my gun. That body's American. You're in violation. Sounds about right. Alright, a brave new world. The trip to Serpo was our traumatic introduction to the world that Aldous Huxley had prophetically anticipated 33 years earlier in 1932 in his classic novel, Brave New World. Even 20 years before James Watson, Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins have solved the riddle of how human traits are passed from generation to generation with a discovery of DNA molecule, Huxley could see where it was all leading. A synopsis of the book in Master Plots, edited by Frank N. McGill, says, "Human beings were turned out by mass production." The entire process, from the fertilization of the egg to the birth of the baby, was carried out by trained workers and machines. Each fertilized egg was placed in solution in a large bottle for scientific development into whatever class in society the human was intended. As early as 1943 Nazi horror doctor Joseph Mengele, the so-called Angel of Death, was already studying identical twins at Auschwitz to learn how to clone human beings. By the time the team left Earth in 1965, DNA was well understood by science and the team scientists should have been aware of it, especially since Watson, Crick, and Wilkins had won the Nobel Prize in Physiology of Medicine in 1962. Also, by that time, there were reports leaking from top secret circles that some of the gray aliens who had been abducting humans were creating a hybrid human alien race using sophisticated genetic procedures, although the books on this subject by butt hopkins and John Mack were yet to be written, furthermore, it was believed that the grays themselves were clones. So the concept of human or alien cloning should not have been totally foreign to the doctors of scientists on that team, and yet, they were shocked by the fact that the ebens considered the body of 308 a great prize for their crossbreeding experiments. This was their rude introduction to a brave new world of genetic engineering, but bigger shocks were yet to come. The ebens genetic laboratory, here we go, the team commander continues his story in his diary. 2 came to the hut, I told 2 and 633 and 700 were going to examine what was left to 308's body. They would also conduct research into the ebens experiments done on 308's body. 2 looked very concerned, it is sometimes difficult for us even after the time that we have been on this planet to determine the meaning of facial expressions on an ebens face. 2 replied that she must first obtain approval, approval was a new word for 2, she was reading or learning our language. Maybe she's just picking up our words, I told 2 that she can go get permission, but that we were told when we arrived that we did not have any restrictions on where we went. 2 said she would speak with the leader. 633 and 700 gathered test equipment and prepared themselves for the examination of the ebens laboratory. According to our time devices, 2 came back in about 80 minutes later. 2 said it was all right for my men to visit their laboratory, I decided that I would also visit it, I self 633, 700 were escorted by ebe2 to the laboratory facility. We had to be taken by helicopter transport service. As we call their helicopters, it took us some time before arriving at this location. According to our compass readings, which are not really a compass reading, but we made points of references and according to them, we traveled north. The facility was large by ebens standards. The buildings looked like a large single story windowless school. We landed on the roof or maybe just the landing zone on the roof. We were escorted down a walkway or ramp. They don't have ladders on this planet, I think I wrote about this in one of my past entries, they have ramps. We arrived in a room, white walls. We then walked through a hallway into another larger room, we met our English speaking doctor. We saw many other ebens all dressed in a bluish-colored, one-piece suit, different from their ordinary suits I spoke of in past entries. The doctor told us all the experiments are done inside this building. He didn't call it a laboratory, just a building, it's done to create clone beings. We were led into another room where there were rolls of containers looking like glass bathtubs. Inside each bathtub were bodies. I was shocked as we're 754. This is kind of crazy because now this is something that comes up over and over and over and over in abduction cases. I'm reminded of Eric Nantsteel, someone that I interviewed, that he was also shown these vats with these floating babies. If you think back to Abedian dressins accounts, she was also shown these vats with these fetuses and aliens and human bodies inside these glass containers filled with liquid, not unlike the scene in the matrix when people wake up from the matrix in the real world where they're sort of in grown in these vats. It's interesting to get a peek behind the curtain here at a lot of times we get to see it on board or we get to hear about it on board, but literally they've got this going on to their home planets as well. Hidious looking creatures, bodies, strange looking bodies, not human bodies, at least not all of them. We started walking down the space between the tubs. We looked into the tubs. These were hideous looking creatures. I asked the doctor what type of creatures were inside these tubs. The doctor told us that these creatures came from other planets. 700 asked the doctor where these creatures dead when they arrived or did the eubens bring them here dead. The doctor said all the creatures were brought to the planet alive. 700 asked that the creatures were kidnapped or brought here against their wills or their wishes. The doctor was not sure of the word kidnapped. The doctor seemed puzzled. The doctor asked about the question. 700 said that these creatures were taken from another planet and brought to Serpo without permission from them or their leaders of their planet. The doctor said that these beings were brought here for experiments. These creatures are not intelligent beings. Two then used the word animals. Okay, now I understand. All these creatures are animals from other planets. The doctor didn't seem to understand the word animal. Two in the doctor exchanged words and eubin and the doctor said yes, they are animals. I then asked if there are any intelligent creatures in this building. The doctor said yes, but all of them were dead when they arrived on Serpo. 700 asked to see these creatures. The doctor corrected 700s by saying, "Beings." Okay, I guess creatures are animals and beings are like humans. Let me first write down the description of these creatures inside these tubs. They were not all alike. The first creature I see inside the tub looks like a porcupine. It appears to have a tube placed inside of it. The tube leads to a box underneath the tub. Second creature, I see looks like a sea monster. As a large head, big, deep-set eyes, no ears, mouth, but no teeth. It's about five feet long, it has two lower legs, but no feet. It has two arms, but it doesn't appear to have any elbows. It has hands, but no fingers. The creature also has a tube going through it. The next creature looks like nothing I can compare to. It has blood-red skin, two spots in the middle, maybe eyes. No arms or legs, very strange odor. The skin appear to be blotchy with scales, maybe like a fish. Maybe it is a fish. The next creature was human-like, but the skin was white, not skin white, the color white. The skin was wrinkled, the head was large, two eyes, two ears, and a mouth. The neck was very small, the head almost looked as if it sat on the lower torso. The chest is thin, the large bone-like protrusions, and the arms were curled with the hands, but no thumbs. The legs are also curled with a feet, but only three toes. I couldn't look at any more creatures. I like a tridactyl. Interesting. Interestinger and interestinger. Here we go. I saw the dark side of this civilization. We walked down another hallway through a room, down a ramp, into another room. We came into a room that looked like a hospital room. There were many beds, or at least, some type of bed, even style bed. I described them before, and each bed was a living being, as the doctor called it. The doctor told us that each being was alive and well cared for. 700 asked the doctor if these beings were all ill or sick. E.B.2 had to translate that, but the doctor said no. They are being lived. Three of us, 102, 754, and 700, seemed really stunned by that word, lived. I asked two what the doctor meant. Two exchanged words with the doctor. Two then used the word "grown." 700 asked the doctor if these were the clone beings that he'd mentioned before. The doctor said yes, that each being was being grown, using the same word as two just use. 754 asked the doctor if these beings were being grown like a plant. The doctor said yes, that is a good comparison. 700 asked the doctor how they are grown. The doctor said that certain parts of their beings were used to grow these beings. The doctor said that he could not explain the process in English because he didn't know the words. 700 then asked two if she could explain the growing process, and two said she did not know the English words. Two said that parts of the blood and other organs are used to mix a substance that is placed inside the bodies of these beings. That was all two could explain in English. I told 700 to go back and get 420 and bring them back, while we waited for 420, we looked at these beings. They were breathing. They looked like humans, most of them. Two of the beings on the end looked like humans with dog heads. These beings were not awake. They were either sleeping or drugged. 420 returned. 420 then spoke with two. 420 is really good. However long we have been here, some guess about 18 months' earth time, 420 learned the language well. 420 then said that the growing process involved cells taken from other beings, grown and mixed with chemicals, and then inserted into the bodies of other beings. That was about all he could explain. 420 did not know the words "EBE2" used. But the word "cells" were used to then tell me that some things were taken from inside the cells. 754 then asked if the items taken from inside the cells were cell membranes or identification markers for the cells. "EBE2" translated that to the doctor, both seemed confused and they said they could not explain the process because they did not know the English words for it. 700 used the word "advanced biological extraction" of the cell membranes, but neither 2 or the doctor knew anything about that process. I asked 754 if he might understand what they were doing. He said the human cell contains smaller substances that can identify the structure with the membrane to the cell. This isn't something that earth technology has advanced, but 754 has read about it in prior to leaving. But 754 doesn't think that earth technology can be used to grow living cells into what the ebons have done, to even the must have found a way to grow cells and to make them into living beings. 754 said nothing like this is known on earth. I then asked the doctor if 308's body was used to create a beam. The doctor said yes and showed us the beam. I was shocked. This was 754. This being with our teammates' blood and cells looked like a large ebony, but the hands and legs were similar to humans. Could they have grown this being so quick? Obviously, this is well above our intelligence. I saw all I wanted to see. I told the doctor that we would like to leave. 2 saw that I was upset and touched my hand. Instantly, I felt concerned. 2 was really concerned about what I saw. 2 said we leave. We traveled outside this building, a building that I did not wish to see again. The ebons are not a humane civilization we thought they were. But I must say, they didn't hide anything. The doctors spoke straight to us, just like the ebons. They don't know how to lie. Seeing what we saw will change our impression of the ebons as long as we stay on this planet. The two doctors, 754, were beginning to understand what was going on when they asked if the items taken from inside the cells were cell membranes or identification markers for the cells. And then, when 754 said that human cells contain smaller substances that can identify the structure with the membrane of the cell, he was describing DNA without being aware of it. The commander goes on to say, "This isn't something that Earth technology has advanced to, but 754 has read about it in prior to leaving." The doctor basically understood what was happening. But DNA biotechnology on Earth was not yet being used to duplicate living beings or grow organs. It must have obtained quick education about this when they saw the hybrid creature that had been created using 308's DNA. Evidently, the ebons have the same capabilities as the grays. Their ongoing alien genetic engineering program has been proceeding since the 1950s in underground laboratories such as Dulce, in New Mexico, various whistleblowers have reported seeing the genetically engineered "freaks" in these locations. We have no doubt. Learned a lot from these alien experiments, and now, with our well-developed DNA knowledge, we basically understand, at least theoretically, what the ebons and grays are doing. Here or not, we have attempted to duplicate any of their monstrous experiments is of course unknown. That may be one reason for the continuing secrecy. This is true. This is true. You know, you think about Dolly, right, the clone sheep. Not too long afterwards, you had the relians, this cult, actually not too far from here in the province of Quebec, that, you know, was apparently in front of a congressional hearing as well, testified that they can clone a human. But you got to think, if we, like we currently today, are cloning animals. That is a fact you can buy, you can have your dog or cat cloned. Say you really love your cat or you really love your dog. There are services today that you can pay for, cost about 30 grand, and they will clone your animal multiple times, because sometimes the clones don't take, and you'll get to take one home. And it'll be physiologically identical. Will it be your pet? Of course not. We know this. But it will be the shell of your pet, exactly. And so we have that technology to think that somewhere in some privatized lab, all humans across the world have agreed collectively not to clone humans is preposterous. Like we've all been like, no, we'll build nukes. And you know, we'll think of the worst possible virus that we can, you know, sort of conjean in a laboratory. You will also make the most potent poisons and mustard gases, and we will experiment with all sorts of the most horrendous, horrific weaponry that money and AI can put together. But cloning another person, that's just too far for us. I don't believe it. I don't believe that we would stop at simply cloning an animal and never consider, you know, if you're doing these black budget programs, trillions of dollars, of course they clone people. Of course they've tried. And if we haven't, our adversaries have, it's kind of wild to think about, isn't it? Like why haven't we seen a human clone yet? Oh, because we all agree to follow the rules for cloning. What? And follow the rules for anything else. We're continuously lying about everything but yet like that's the one line we're not going to cross I don't think so but interesting. I you know what I kind of appreciate. I'll be honest This is it. This is the off the sticks. This is an off the sticks moment. I kind of really appreciate the the earnestness of these ebans and how They don't lie They're just and they do have a motion. It seems like eb2 at least has emotion They just have this insanely high level of sort of logical Proceduring like they they all they all they know how to do is just like be logical and They don't understand anything that is illogical and That is kind of neat But they do seem and although they do have like individual personalities There is a sense of hive-mindedness that they adhere to you know when you talk about the clock that tells them what to do every day or Just like yeah They're and maybe that's what they need to make a cohesive society. Maybe they figure that out It's just really interesting to see how humans have developed a relationship with things like cloning or things like disposing of a body and How they have you know evolved to feel about the same things? Rather differently and maybe maybe that's because of religion You know, we have so many different religions on this planet Doesn't seem like they've even addressed the religious thing yet which You'd think that that would be one of the first things they talk about you know being in the 60s like hey, who's your god? You guys worship Jesus here, you know what I mean? I don't know Interesting nonetheless, this is a very interesting and compelling story. I am in I do want to see what happens with the further development of the e-bun relationship vis-a-vis our skipper our commander Yeah, what are your thoughts anything in here stand out to you as particularly interesting and intriguing or you know somewhat revelatory please let me know in the comments below. I'd be very curious to read is something that I've missed And I'll be sure to mention it on the next video folks. I appreciate your time I appreciate you being here with me on this very silly Extremely out there adventure, but I look forward to the next installment of the secret journey to planet Serpo Peace and love you