"Oscar Isaac"

(upbeat music) - Can I just be shameless and say what I'm actually really excited for? Can I just say it? - Yeah. - I'm really excited for our live show. - Oh. - I'm nervous. I'm nervous. - I always get nervous. - Are you guys nervous about it? - You're talking about the one that's coming up November 15th out there at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm very nervous about it. - That's the one where people can go to smartless.com/live to get tickets. That's the one I'm talking about. - Wait, what's, what's, wait, wait, wait. - It's smartless.com/live. - Yeah. - Is where I would go if I wanted to buy a ticket. - That's where you'd go if you would. But anyway, I'm nervous about it because it's, it's gonna be the Hollywood Bowl. And we got a couple more guests. - I had a bowl of honey and cheerios for-- - Okay, great. All right, let's get to an all-new smartless. (upbeat music) I can't, I've got, I've got, I'm doing a pod. I'm doing a record. - Record. - How do you refer to what we're doing right now when you talk to other people? - I just record. I say record. I say record. - Record or sometime or I'll say I have to record a smartless. - Yeah. - I'm gonna smartless. - What are you saying? - I've said, I've said pod a couple of times. And it feels terrible. - Yeah, of course it does. It sounds terrible. - Yeah. Hey, what about the three of us get to put our, our chest and faces on each other on Sunday. For the first time in forever. - What do you got? What do you mean we're all gonna have dinner on Sunday? - Yeah. - Yeah. All right, good. I don't think Amanda's going. - Amanda's not. So I actually have an out. But I was thinking since you guys are gonna be there. - Well, you better be there. - I'm gonna be so, I'm gonna be so low too this Sunday. So it's gonna be. - Really? - So we're gonna have, yeah. Jason, will you be? - Yeah. - Do you want me to wear something special? - Yeah. (laughing) - I want you to pick me up. - Yeah. - I want you to pick and open my door. - I'm not gonna wear that thing that you, but I was not wearing it. - No, I got it. - I got it. (laughing) - Hey, we missed you last night. I was over there, Willie last night with Jay. - You were? - Yeah, just for a quick fight. - Quick fight. - How was that? - Yeah. - It was good, it was good. - Good. - Okay, okay. - Okay, so you guys are doing, well get well. We're having dinner tonight. - Yeah, that's right. - Me and Willie aren't there. - So you guys gonna go to Char? - It doesn't matter. - Yes, how did you know? - The Trilly. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Do you want to go or no? - Well. - Now we're gonna see each other Sunday. - You can come, come. - Thank you. - It's gonna be fun. - Yeah, because I haven't hung out with Carolyn yet, really. So, oh, sorry, can I say that? - Oh boy. - Oh, well the internet's saying it, so I think we can. - We can. (laughing) - Wait, what are we talking about last night, Jay? - Oh yeah, we talked about, hey, well have you seen this alter ego thing? I was talking about the table where it's a new divide, it's like an AI device and you put it in the back of your ear. - Yeah, listen to this. This sounds like a nightmare. - And all whenever you think of it translates into text, audio, audio text. - You imagine that? Like basically having a microphone on in your brain? - That's a nightmare. - Yeah, but I mean, only if you turn it on, like you, you don't, it's not like- - I would venture to say people would pay thousands and thousands of dollars to have that eliminated if that was something that was stuck on. Most people, but most things were vocalized, the jails would be full. - And they'd empty their accounts to get rid of that. - Yeah, but I mean, it's volunteer, you don't, it's not like stuck to your head. - No, I understand that. I'm just saying they're gonna have a tough time- - Kill JB, kill JB, kill JB, kill JB, kill JB. Kill JB, kill JB. - Pay us money for this new device. That sounds like a problem. - I hope Jason misses this part. I hope Jason misses this part of that. (laughing) - Hey, did I leave to a abruptly last night? - No, you actually triggered a mass exodus, which was fantastic. We all left right after that. - Wait, what do we all, what are we talking about? - 15, 20, 25 people. - No, it was like eight, six people, eight people. - What? - Wait a second, pump the brakes. What was I left out of? - This was a specific little bite. - It's a bite and smile. It was a bite and smile. - And I mean, I don't know these people. - It's exactly, not very well at all. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, that's it. - But we also did. - Yeah. - You have a guest today. - I do, I know, we're gonna get right to it. I was gonna share one more thing, but that would-- - We'd love to hear it today. - Love to hear it today. - No, no, don't material, go ahead. - No, it's not, it's, okay, here we go. - No, no, no, no, wait, I wanna hear it. - No, no, it was just that, it was that topic, that whole thing about, you know, men and women and like sexual opportunities. So like, I asked all the women at the table. Like, if a guy came to the door and that was the best-looking guy in the world, would you, and keep propositions you whether, you know, politely or impolitely, whatever was, just based on looks, would you go for it? And of course, unanimously, every girl on the table was like, no, I would never do that. - I think you can be much more specific than that. You can say what the actual thing was. - Well, it was like, if a guy, if a, if a, like dropped at gorgeous, unbelievable guy, was that your door and he's like, exposed himself, but not really like, but like in a, or answered in a robe or something. And of course, every girl was like, no, that's disgusting, that's weird and bizarre and not. And then, but conversely, all the gay guys and the straight guys were like, yeah, I would totally go for that. (laughing) - Meaning if it was the opposite. If the door opened and a woman had her robe open, the guy would say, oh yeah, cool if I come in. - Yeah. - You know, as opposed to the, and I guess Sean was making a statement about the difference in sexist. - Reminds me of this old joke that my grandfather had. And this is almost a dad joke, but it's worse it's a grandfather joke, which is a guy's on a desert island. And he's there by himself for years and years and years and years off, so this beautiful woman comes out of the surface. She's got a, she's wearing a wetsuit and she says, when was the last time you had a nice cold beer and he's like, oh my God, it's been forever. And she reaches in her wetsuit, pulls out a beer. He chugs it down and she goes, when was the last time that you had a smoke? And he's like a few years and she pulls out a cigarette light and he's like, oh my God, it's incredible. And then she looks at him and she goes, when was the last time you played around? And he goes, you got golf clubs in there? (laughing) That's a good one. It's a great father joke. - Well, but Sean, he told me a great grandfather joke, granddad joke. There were really dad jokes on it. - Yeah, isn't it the cat? - Yeah. How do, maybe Sean should tell it? (laughing) - I kind of punched up the reading a little bit. - Okay, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. - Yeah, so what? (laughing) - It's what is it? - Well, how does a cat like it's steak? - Rare. (laughing) - Oh my God. - I can't even, it's not, it's so not even funny. - No. - All right. We gotta have the little tidy claws up. What do you do it to? - Oh, that'll help it. - Yeah, that'll help it. (laughing) - Guys, we're so silly. - We're over, we're over time already. All right, look, look, we got a guy. We got a guy going. - Just think of us now and we'll apologize first. - He's a big deal, guys. - Okay, shit. - I might geek out a little bit. I'm a huge fan. He was born in Guatemala, and then he kind of ping ponged around the United States as a kid while his dad finished his medical residencies. He almost joined the Marines before making a sharp pivot to Juliard. He spent most of his teens in Florida playing bass and singing in a Scott punk band, including one that opened for Green Day. But now he's went to Hollywood to most versatile actors, playing everything from a folk singer, a mad genius tech guy, a rebel pilot, a superhero, a Shakespearean royalty. He's ridiculously talented. Absolute joy to watch. One of my favorite actors of all time, Oscar Isaac. - Oscar. - Oscar. - He had an absolute fear. - No. (laughing) - Oscar. - I see the closet. - I'm so telling my six-year-old this joke when I told him he's killed that. - You know what? Okay, rolling speed and action. Let's see your reading on Ray. - Ray. (laughing) - He's like a man. - He's like a beat man. - I think the closet definitely needs a little kit and claws. - Yeah, Sean's got great dad jokes. You got any dad jokes, Oscar? - No, my heart's pounding. You guys are so fast. - Oh, no. - So funny. - Oh my God. - And soaring. - Intimidating with your speed of wit, lace. - Oh, no, no, no. You should read what people say about me on this thing. They're so sick of me at some point. - No, no. - I'm sick of me. - Yeah. - Where I've got me, I'm really happy. You know, 'cause there was a moment there, I remember during the pandemic, where I think there was a moment where it's like, "Oh, can I come and do the show way back then?" - Oh really? - And I was stuck down there, yeah. - You've been on my list to be on the show since day one. - Yeah, you've been on my list. - And then you had not stopped working on the greatest things that this business has to offer since then and before. Well done. I was so, so happy every time I see you and something, I get more of you. - And I just watched Frankenstein last night. It's-- - You did? - You did. - Yeah, you were saying you got home from the dinner and watched Frankenstein? - No, I'm sorry, during the day yesterday, not last night. - Oh, thanks for the phone call. - Sorry. (laughing) - But wait, and we're gonna get to that, but Oscar-- - So killer. - Holy moly man, that your performance was-- - I'm so excited to see that. - I'm so excited. - I'm so excited. - I mean, just incredible. I don't know how you do it, but anyway, next time. Listen, thanks for being here. I'm guessing when we met it. a couple of years ago, you could probably feel what a big fan I was. Oh, no, no, Oscar, you described it for your side, what happened? No, it was at the awards dinner. Yeah, or no, no, it was, I think before that, it was the Lin-Man Well Miranda kind of things that he does in the street. Right. Right? And then we all had to go out, if you're in a show. You always erase that. It turns out he's erased that from his memory. I have a notoriously terrible memory, so with all the things I've done. There's kind of like an over-extimulated moment like that, which was in the scene. Yeah, I know me too. I'm like, it's so insane. But Erwin, you were so sweet at the, what was the award? I don't even remember what the- The Tony Awards? No, no, no. It was before that where everybody kind of has a dinner on a stage. Oh, yeah. How awkward was that? Yeah, yeah. There's like a crowd, and then we're all on stage eating. Like we're on display. Yeah. And then you came over and said, I was- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry, I just want to put it. So you're all on stage eating, and there's a crowd in the theater watching you- Watching you. Well, they're eating, too. Right? Okay. Yeah. Right? I think so. I don't think you remember. Meals on that. I couldn't see them. I couldn't see them. We can't really see them, because there's lots of lights on. I mean, this is a new kind of dinner theater where everybody's eating, including the cast. And then let's get to Sean coming over and doing the offensive, whatever it was. Yeah. Well, it was- He was not- Was it about- What was it about? Maybe it was a Star Wars thing, but we were on, you know, we were across the street from each other. Yeah. You know, you were doing Oscar. Right. You'd be triumphant. The much celebrated play. Oh, sure. I was doing the marginally tolerated play across- (laughs) across the way. Sydney Bruce Dean. Yeah. And- No, no. And it was cool to be up there. That was my first time doing Broadway. It was kind of, by habitually- Really? Yeah, yeah, because we were- What about Hamlet? That was at the public. Oh. I didn't know that. Oh, technically off-Broadway? Yeah. That's off-Broadway. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, I just, you know, huge fan. But I want to talk about- I had no idea you played instruments and like- Inside- Oh, my God. Loot, loot. Loot. Yeah, loot into- Incredible. Is that you really playing in the movie, too? Yeah. And was that a requirement that common brothers wanted? They did. They actually were mostly- At first, they were just auditioning musicians. I had no idea you were a musician. That's so crazy. Yeah. So I played, you know, I mean, I didn't play folk music necessarily. Or like that kind of style. And so when I knew- When I heard that they were going to be auditioning for it, I just really went in hardcore on learning like Travis Picking and- Uh-huh. And doing all that. And it was- Yeah, it was- What's Travis Picking? Travis Picking is kind of like- It's almost like a rag- Like rag time on piano where, you know, the left hand is doing the bass line and the right hand is doing the melody- Shiny, can you do that? Boom. Yeah, it's called stride piano. Yeah, stride piano. Yeah. So it's- You're kind of doing that with a guitar where the thumb is doing the bass line. Oh, really? These guys are just playing the melody. Oh my god. Difficult? Man. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like a- Yeah, it's like almost like the drumming where you have to kind of get some separation between- Jason, I saw you drumming in a music video yesterday. Is that- Do you want to hear comments on that? Why? What is that? Wait, was it the- It must have been a Black Rabbit or adjacent music video. Oh, right. Oh, that. Yes. Yeah. It just popped up yesterday and I just saw you hammering away in the skin. On your Instagram? On my Instagram. I don't see that. Yeah, it's a crazy thing. I saw that for the first episode of that. You're so green. I don't think so, man. So you're so kind of- So effortless. Can I tell you last night- I haven't started yet because I want to have a- I want to binge it all in a row. I think I'm going to watch it this weekend. And I had- But Bradley texted me last night. He watched- The final text was at 3.30 this morning. He used to send me this to nice stuff. I just finished Black Rabbit. It's incredible. It's unbelievable. And then he called me this morning. He's like, "Bateman, literally, I'm not- This is not exactly- Bateman is an incredible actor. I can read. I know. He did. He did. He seemed in the car with the coins and the reaction to the gun. Get it out of my face. It was so funny and real. It was so great. I love that. He's so good. He's so good. Oscar, back to you. Yeah. I want to talk about your memory. Because I'm wondering if I have Alzheimer's or if it's- Is it just us actors that- Well, although Will is an anomaly. Yeah. You can remember everything. He's Mary Lou Henner's brother. But- Do you think that our brains have morphed into a one trick pony where we can just remember lines? And everything else, it decides- I can't- I can't have this. And it itself edits things that are- Not- Going to our bottom line. I still- I still know all these Shakespeare monologues. But I can't- I think it's a- I think it's like- Maybe it's like this anxiety. The moment there's even a slight doubt about a memory, it just erases. Or a person's name. Or anything. Like the second there's a hesitation, it goes- Do you have face blindness and all? I have a little bit of that. Where you just like- Usually? I do. Where I'm just like- Scotty- My husband's Scotty's like- Really? And it's horrible. It's a horrible thing. I think it is that thing. It's like the- It's like a hiccup that happens and then you're like- It's like a paralysis. Yeah. Yeah, I have this- I have a good memory, but I do have that too, Sean. It's not face blindness, but I can't remember- Meet people and say we met or we know each other or we did the thing like that part of my brain is completely cut off. But I can remember- But like, you know, like- February of 2003, you can remember- Yeah. February of 2003, February of 2003, I auditioned for- For a rest of development. And that was in February of- How would you- Jesus, like- But like, November 2018, you probably know what was going on? Yeah, I do. November 2018, I went to England for six days. Okay, that's fucking crazy. That's- That is crazy. I don't- I don't think that- That's the brain is amazing. But then there are certain parts of it that I can't remember. And I can also remember dialogue as well, Oscar. And I can remember also through, I guess from like voiceover stuff over the years, I can remember copy- From voiceover campaigns that I did 30 years ago. Here comes the GMC tie-in guys. Well, no, no, no, no, no. GMC is the one that's going to be the first- I did it this morning. I did it this morning. Was it anything professional grade this morning? No, but you can get 0% in all 2025 GMC terrain 18 for a lot. That river doesn't damn it. Okay, Oscar, I want to talk about your- Not only did I not know that you played in a band and sang, in a band called The Worms, right? One of the names of the band. The Worms? What kind of music was it? Skah. Yeah, like Skah Punk, right? Oh, boy. Skah. You smell the weed from here. Yeah, we know. This was before I wasn't drinking or like I didn't drink alcohol till like 24 years old. So I was like- I was straight edge. Oh, wow. I was- Yeah, like I didn't- So I was always the odd one out. How did you go? How did you do that thing where you- Sean said it in the intro in eloquently- that you were in a band and you were in Skah bands. And then you all of a sudden go to Juilliard. Was that one day like you were like, "Hey guys, I'm out of the band. I'm going to Juilliard." I'm out. Yeah. Really, really. For real? Well, a little bit. But you guys did straight from Marines to Juilliard. Which was- It was- I was- Yeah, yeah. I mean, a little bit. Were you driving a mulped with a raccoon tail on it when you didn't play on the band? And suspenders? Yeah. Yeah. Really? I'll bet you were. I love- I remember those things. How many times have you seen Quadrifina? No, sorry. Keep going. Yeah, no, I- I had graduated high school. I was in this different band called the Blinking Underdogs. Uh-huh. And- And we- Surprise that cleared. No one had that, huh? Nobody had it. They had the blinkers. They had the underdogs. But not the other. And just so you know, Oscar, I was in a band called Sounds from the Stairs. So it's all- Ooh. All the names are- So keep going. Yeah. Blinking Underdogs. It's so many different band names. But- But yeah, and so I came up to New York to do this off, off, off, off Broadway play. While you were- While you were in the band? Yeah. Yeah. And we were touring the Florida. We didn't really get out of Florida. Uh-huh. And this was kind of as the third wave was cresting and kind of coming down in the sky. Right? Uh-huh. And uh- And when- When did you start closet heterosexuals? That was the third band. That was- That was before Scott. That was hardcore. That was hardcore. That was hardcore band. Okay. That was hardcore. Okay. Got it. C-H. Is that what you call it? Yeah. And now you cut- Do you still collect guitars? Because I know you collect- Well wait, Sean, Sean. He's telling a story about how he went to New York to do the play. What do we do? I went to do a play and then I was up there and I passed by Julia. And I was like, "Oh, Julia, let me go in there and see what's up." Come on. Yeah, yeah. And I asked for an application. And they said that the deadline was due already. This was like a Tuesday and it had been due Friday. And I kind of like smoothed the lady. And I was like, "Can I just take it back?" And she's like, "Well, take it. Maybe you could turn it next year." And I went home that night and I filled it all out. And I came back the next day. And she took it and like put- What else did you have to do to get it? Was there an audition process? Yeah, then there was a whole audition process. Well, I had to come back and- Do you look a monologue? Do a couple monologues. And do like a movement class and a dance belt. And wear a dance belt. While you haven't wear a dance belt. Did you ever cut that- Did you- Did you- Did you- Did you- And our guitars have a great dance belt. Sure. Were you able to confirm that the other applicants had to wear the dance belt? Did- No, the dance bill thing actually was not about the audition, but the first day of when you got in, they're like, this is what you have to do. And I remember I went in with my dance belt, and nobody else had put on a dance belt. (laughing) We got another one. (laughing) Why would you put a dance belt on just for a monologue? (laughing) Because that's my craft. Okay, I got it. Okay, I got it. Don't question. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. All right, so what, so Will's point. Okay, so, but how did you, where did you, so you were in this band, but you always had this kind of inkling too? Yeah, I was doing plays. I was doing plays in Miami as well. So I was doing both at the same time. And where did the Marines come in? That was the guy, the sax player of the Worms. He and I just really got, his dad was a Navy SEAL, and so we started talking about going in, being, you know, getting, like, buff and, you know, and just, like, going in on the buddy system, because you could do the buddy system at that time. Which is what? What's a buddy system? The buddy system is that you go in with the buddy, and then you get to do all of basic training with your pal. With your buddy, you get to do the whole thing. So, like, that sounds great. I think it just sounds rad. I mean, it sounds so fun, right? You got to do pull-ups and push-ups, and all this, like, it's going to be great. And the thought that you even thought that you could, like, I would never occur to me. I wouldn't even look it up, because I'm like, I'm not getting anywhere close to that. Right, you're going to get kicked out when you enter the barracks. But then they're like, and then I said, you know, and I'll go in for combat photography. I had watched, you know, a full-metal jacket, and I'm like, yeah, like, be a combat photographer. Yeah. And so, we started doing the training, like, you would meet up every weekend, and start, like, doing the training with some of the Marines, like, an early training. So, you did that? Yeah, yeah, and I even went, and I did the, y'all, you go to, like, a hotel, and they do all, like, your examinations and health stuff, and you take your first oath, and there's, like, a second oath, you have to do. Wow. And then I, and when I first signed up, I remember they gave me a pamphlet that had all, like, the famous Marines, like, the Art Sea Marines, like, Brian Dennehy, and, uh, I think it was. And I was, like, uh, I was, like, great. And, uh, and then I went to sign up, like, when I actually really had to sign up, and I was going to go in as a reservist, and I was like, I'm here for combat photography. They're like, oh, no, that's just full time. And I said, well, what, what can I do instead? And they said, anti-tank. And I was like, whoa. So, against the tank? Yeah. [laughter] I'm like, uh, how do I get in the tank? All right, I'm going to think about that, and I wrote, let me just think about it. And then the exact spot quit the band, and say, he and I weren't really close anymore, so I lost my buddy. And then we got enough money, and then we got enough money to, like, record an album that summer, like, to record our own, like, CD. Right. And so I was like, I think I'm not going to do it. Right. She did not go through the basic training. No, no, she didn't go through any of that. Wait, so, but then you, so, I'm going to go back to the thing, because I didn't know you collected guitars. So, how many guitars do you have? I don't really collect guitars. I mean, I have some guitars, you know, but you told the Colin Brothers you did all that. Seven. Seven's pretty good. Seven guitars, that's a lot of guitar. Seven lots of collection. Yeah. Was that the last audition you were on? The last audition I ever did was for Hutsucker Proxy. Whoa. Yeah. So it was for the Colin Brothers. I mean, I'd read today for the Colin Brothers. Yeah. Was that the last audition you've ever done? No. My last, my last audition was for Mike Nichols. Really? Wow. For the trail on Broadway. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow. When was that? Terribly. It was a 2014. I remember I came in and I had, like, listened to a lot of Harold Pinter to kind of do his accent. And I was going through a divorce at the time. So I was like, man, I'm feeling this thing. Yeah. I'm really wondering where the play but it's very much about that and fidelity and all that. Yeah. And so I got there and Juliet Rylance was the, um, the reader. She's a great, great actress. More Colin says daughter. Yeah. And, uh, and I did the, I did the first, the first scene. And Mike Nichols was quiet and he goes, um, where'd you get that accent? I was like, yeah, man. Where'd I get it? What'd you get it? And I was like, oh, I was listening to, uh, I was listening to Pinter, uh, I was listening to some recordings and kind of trying to do that. He's like, oh, yeah. Well, I guess different English people sound differently. And then when we do the next scene, so I did the next scene and then he goes, what did it make you sad to do this play every night? What does that mean? I was like, trick question. How do you answer? And I was like, I'm just going to be honest. Like, you know what? I was reading it on the subway right over here. And yeah, you know, I'm kind of going through something right now and I feel really connected to like the grief of that and the pain of that. And I feel like, yeah, it would definitely be, you know, delving into that by night. And Julia at Ryland's God bless her. She's like, but also fun too, right? I was like, oh, yeah, no, but also so fun. I mean, it's so fun. Doing this are probably with you. It'd be so fun. Yeah. And then they're like, like, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. And then I, yeah. And then I walked out. Who got it? Do you remember who got it? Rave, rave, rave, spall. Okay. Yeah, rave, spall. And they did the play. They did the play as a comedy. Oh, as well. So the right answer would have been the opposite of. Yeah, the right answer was, yeah, was the opposite. Yeah. So, but the trick question is just tell me like what, you know, I want to do this at a comedy. So yeah, okay, it's gonna be fun. Yeah, I know. You know, okay, so born in Guatemala, which I did not know either. And then Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami. Is this question going to make you sad? Yes. But also fun. I'm going to block it. Okay, I'm not up the last task yet. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Wait, all that moving around before you were six years old. And why? Because your dad is, that's what I read. That he was doing his medical something. Is that all because of your dad? Yeah, I mean, also just like that. Yeah, the immigrant story of like, you know, coming to America for a better life. And so he grew up in DC. He's Cuban. He was born in Cuba, but grew up in DC. And then went to medical school in Guatemala. Him and his two brothers. And that's where he met my mom. And then they had my sister. And then, yeah, then I was born in like, as I was six months old. And then we moved to DC first. Like Virginia, Baltimore area. The kindergarten there. Then Louisiana, because he went to LSU for his residency. And then Florida, where we had family and his mom was there. And we lived with my grandma for a bit. And then-- And he eventually became a doctor, yeah? Yeah. Was there any pressure on you to follow in his footsteps? Or do you fully embrace the actor thing? No, he kind of, he was also a bit of a frustrated artist. No, well, like he would make movies with his brothers on, you know, eight millimeter camera. And that's what the initial spark was for you, too. Yeah, yeah, he would like bring home every Friday. It was like a movie night. And he would bring home these like mystery movies that we watch. And then he bought a camcorder. And we make like home movies. So he must have been kind of thrilled when you kind of got into this a little bit. Yeah, he was into it. He was into it until he became competition. Is he still with us? He's still with us. And so he must be so proud. I brought him to the Frankenstein premiere. Oh, no, what? Oh, that's so cool. Which was good. Do you remember who the first actor was that he showed you that you kind of latched onto and was like, oh, I'd like to have those chops when I'm older? Tim Curry. Yeah, oh, really? That's the remember I saw. He showed, we watched Clu and then we watched Legend. And when I realized it was the same fucking guy. What about Rocky Horror? Yeah, well, then Rocky Horror after that. No, though dad didn't bring that one home for movie. But man, I just couldn't believe that that was the same guy. And I noticed it because the way that his lip curled at one point is like the devil. And you were like, oh, my God. Yeah, oh, you can. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about Dr. Jumparoun? Sorry, but what about Cuba? I've always been fascinated with Cuba. Have you been able to go there? I haven't been, you know, like I grew up in Miami, Cuba world, which is like everyone's so traumatized and afraid and so complicated. But I've, I've wanted to go. We almost went when Lewin Davis came out. Actually, we were going to go to the film festival and then at the last minute it didn't happen. But it's definitely a place. What is the current? I feel so dumb because you still, you can't, you can't go there freely. You don't end up for a moment. Yeah. And then closed up and now close to go. Close up. Well, like as an American, you know, like Canadians go. I know that a lot of Canadians go there on holiday all the time or lots of flights. I know that. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. To Cuba? Yeah. I mean, why would you want to go? Like because it's beautiful or? Oh, there's our quote for the day. There's our-- I mean, fuck you. You're, uh, you're vacation. I mean, it's an incredible plate. How many demographics are you trying to get rid of it, man? You know, I just, I just didn't know what the draw was. Like, I know what the draw was. It's beautiful to shovel down. Yeah. It's got incredible culture. It's got, okay, okay, okay. I just didn't know what the draw is. Hey, hey, I can't wait to go to Cuba. Are you so-- They feel the same way about you and your mom. What's Andrew? What is he telling you all the time? Yeah. [LAUGHTER] It's okay. So anyway, Oscar, um, so I grew up super, super Catholic. You grew up very, is it safe to say evangelical or Christian? You enjoy, yeah. Evangelical. Now listen to religion. - No, I think it's fascinating because, you know, because you were devout, right? - It's like spiritual abuse. - It's like, yeah, totally. - Totally, I love talking about it. We don't have to talk about it, but I love talking about it. - Do, do, do, 'cause I know zero about religion. - Please. - I mean, you know, there's some wonderful Catholics, there's some wonderful Christians, and then there's the ones that are beyond hypocritical. - But do you guys know, like what is the difference between Catholic, Christian, Evangelical, Episcopalian, Protestant, Methodist, Lutheran? - They're all Christian. They're all under this big umbrella of Christianity, right? - But how, what is the, is there a singular difference that separates each one of them, like as far as interpretation of the Bible goes? Or yes? - Yes. - Yes. - Okay, yeah, I guess. - It's a short answer. (laughs) - But is it like an identify? Like, could it be a jeopardy question? What is the single difference between Lutheran and Episcopalian? Is it one? - Put it this way. - Episcopal church came from, is Church of England, right? And it was established as a sort of an offshoot of Catholicism because Henry VIII wanted to be able to divorce his wife. - Jesus Christ. - So he established the Church of England. - And Martin Luther comes down. - And then, and so of course, it's a little bit different. It's kind of like a, a lot of people describe Church of England as sort of Catholic light without all the pageantry. That's a sort of a simplistic view. - And then there are all these different, yeah. - Yeah, and Catholicism, there's a lot more intercessors, I guess, as a word. You know, like the saints and people that you pray to and like you said, the pageantry, which to go to Frankenstein is a very Catholic Mexican. - Look at this problem. - In version of it. But he talks about it very much in that way, you know? Like the Christ figure, like the forensic nature of the crucifixion, how about in the movie, when the democracy's up on that thing? It was just shy of being a cross. - Definitely, no, we called it the crucifixion. There's even a thorn, you know, the metal thorns on the head. - No, totally. I thought it was cool. But was that a conscious choice of Guillermo or whoever to not make it a specific cross, but just at an angle? - Have it a little bit in. - Yeah, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - I thought it was an accident. - Now, is working with Guillermo del Toro everything that you would hope and think that it is? He just strikes me as just such an infectiously enthusiastic and kind leader not to mention his creative abilities are just unmatched. - Yeah, yeah, it was, I was like a kid. There was just so much joy. It was so much, so much fun. It was this particular approach to it too. Well, he was writing it. He's like, "I'm going on, I'm making you a banquet." And he really did. It was just like a feast of stuff to do every day. We only spoke in Spanish to each other. - Oh, that's cool. - He would direct in jokes mostly, like dirty Mexican jokes. But also, like, and he was just an ambulance really funny. There was no whispering behind monitors, you know? It was like, if there was a problem, everybody knew it. If something was great, everybody knew it. - That's nice. - It was just really, really fun. He would, and it's like zero pretension whatsoever, you know? He'd be like, "Gavron, I need a lot of Hamon on this one." - Hamon, Hamon, Hamon with mustard and mayonnaise to make it go down easier. I just need you to look up and look right past the camera and hold it, or there you already be like, I need you to do the Maria Cristina, which is like a telenovela thing. You know, he's like, "I need you to be in profile and then walk across a counter to him and then stop and turn around and look." - Right, super-trastic. - It was like, "Just give it to me. Give this, make this one Mexican happy." - Wow, that's true. - I love that. The scope of the movie is so massive. Like, how long was the shoot? - I mean, it spanned nearly eight months. - Wow. - Where was it? There was a two-month break where he shot miniatures. - Okay. - In London. - What? - We shot it in Toronto and in the UK, Scotland. - Do you, when you do something like that with a director like that who has such a vision, right? And he has such a, but from what I understand from you also a very collaborative spirit. Do you, and not to get serious too, but do you, when you are in that, your ability, what are the parameters or are there any of sort of bringing stuff in your thoughts and feeling like you can just go out on a limb? - Yeah. - With a guy like him. Is it just pretty wide open in that way? - It is. That was the one thought when I was going into it. I know he's an animator. I know like the visual language is so precise. And so I went in expecting like, all right, the constraints are gonna be tight, but that's the job. But he actually was in a very different, he talks about making the movie with Bradley, really shifted him. Like it really opened him up in like an amazing way. - Good night, Maralli. - Yeah, night Maralli credits him a lot with like, just him learning how to listen to the movie. He would talk a lot about that while we were shooting it, just like the movie kind of tells you what it needs. In fact, at one point I was saying like, I don't, you know, I find myself like, am I not shaking it up enough? Am I not like being kind of dangerous enough and going out on a limb enough? And he's like, no, that's, that's an idea. It's like the movie kind of tells you what it needs and however you're responding is what it's needing. If it's needing you to be this way, then don't second guess that so much. He gave a lot of feeling to all of us of like, you can't fail, I wrote this stuff for you. It's, there's nothing to like reach for. - Right, yeah. - Which was great. And it also bit, you know, but also there, it was a very, it's a very specific kind of performance. He said, you know, it's not naturalistic. It's heightened, I want the speed of language, speed of thought. There's not a lot of pausing for you guys. It's kind of high camp and high melodrama and just all heart. Like that's what he wants to do, a lot of heart for sure. - So he was really specific about the tone before you guys got started. - Yeah, that's helpful, that's really helpful, I bet. - For sure. And did he, did he attempt to sort of give you a taste for that collectively by doing any sort of like table reads ahead of time or rehearsals in a group around a table? - No, he didn't want to do that so much. We did have one big table read with like the execs and all that. And that was it. I mean, he, you know, 'cause he was quite protective of the script as he was writing it, you know, I think partly out of just like a little insecurity as well. Like I'm not sure it's quite there yet. And so he kept adjusting. I mean, every day he was working. Like even behind the monitor, he was drawing his storyboards. He would be quilting the movie as we went along. Like sometimes you would do a take and he would like put it right into the flow of the edit so he would just show you. Like we did the last scene of the movie and the next day he came in with, you know, Johan Johansson music on it and showed the edited scene to me. - How did you like that or how did it affect what you were doing? - Well, I mean, that example in particular was interesting 'cause, you know, it was the last scene of the movie. And so I want to try to talk about it without giving too much away of it. It's like a highly emotional crescendo of the whole thing. And, you know, I spent the day, like in the zone, like listening to all my sad sack music and, you know, like looking at pictures of sad times, you know, doing like the full anti-mic Nichols moment. And this isn't the Arctic. - Yeah, in the ship. - Yeah. - And, you know, and like, you know, and I went in and like didn't talk to anybody in the lay down. We did this scene and there was tears and everybody was really happy and Guillermo was, you know, high five and all right, we got it. And then the next day he showed it to me and I was like, I don't, I don't really buy it. I'm like, me, me, I was like, I don't, was that take five? But that take five was a good take. He's like, that's take five, come on. I was like, I don't think that's take five. And then we looked and it wasn't take five, but then take five wasn't that much better either. - Was it because you think that you came in with too much of that, too much of this and not listening to this? - Check out what happened. So then, then I was sitting there and then Guillermo comes over and he's like, what's wrong? I was just, we'll just do like a little insert of my hand, grabbing his hand. And he's like, what's wrong? And I was like, I don't know, man, I feel like a little insecure. And he's like, well, you are an actor. I was like, I know, I know, but, but I just feel like, should I have looked up maybe when I said sorry, should I have done, yeah, I just thought. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, those are all ideas. You know, you were honest and you thought about your mom and you thought about all these things and that was there. And I was like, all right, okay. And then I went away for like 30 minutes and I was like, well, I just have to be a dead body for the rest of the day. And I came back and he had set up a whole different thing. And I was like, what are we doing? He's like, we're gonna do it again. We're gonna do your close-up again. And he's like, you know what? From yesterday. And he's like, you know what, it's okay. Like, we're gonna see if, you know, we definitely have something. If you don't have anything, that's okay. I'll just make fun of you for the rest of your life. You know, win, win. And so like, really quickly, I'm like throwing on my ear pods to try to like find a song to get me sad again. Like I'm trying to do all this shit. And I just, I didn't have any time. I like lay down and we did it and we did like four takes. And it was way better. Just like, I wasn't, I didn't have time to try to like evoke anything or like it was like, more sober, it was more severe. It just was like. it was just was you didn't have to bring a preconceived idea of what it should be as opposed to just letting it be. Yeah, and that's what's in what's what's in the film, you know, I love that. We'll be right back and now back to the show. So, but that that adjustment in your performance came as a result of you watching what you were doing and are you are you good about that because I know as many actors as we have but but like some actors they just they don't watch themselves. They can't watch themselves. I learned so much from seeing how bad I am sometimes it's like oh don't do that anymore or you think it's coming across this way, but it actually comes across. That's what I asked Christoph Waltz who's on it, right? So, yeah, thank legend. I asked him specifically about that and he's like he doesn't watch he's like because it's okay if you watch and you think it's not good. But the bad thing is when you watch and you think it's good, you know, and like that can be way worse. Yeah, because then it's cut together and you're like oh maybe it wasn't that great. Or there's just like a self-consciousness or you think you know it's just for him but this was it but there's many times when I've watched something and I'm like I can do it better and I just and I can't you know it's it's in I so I don't know man I don't know but but that was that there was a moment there after I that happened or I was like well this might have to watch every fucking tank or every I think yeah it's for me it's not like a definitive thought of like one or the other. I've also asked a bunch of people this this question as well but with all you single yeah and one is you sign and you're rising with the incredible directors that you've worked with. Do you ever fantasize about cherry picking from each one of them becoming a smoke and director yourself? Yeah sometimes yeah I mean I thought originally that's what I kind of was more into like I came into like acting from like making movies with friends and doing that and yeah yeah yeah I think about this sometimes. Oh yeah you being kind of all these two. When you say think about sometimes I wanted to you have an idea in your mind of something that's kind of back there. I don't that's why that's why I'm like until that thing happens where it's like I you know I think until that happens what scares me a little bit is just I'm incredibly indecisive as just a human being like even the menu or with anything I can't just cripple with like I don't I don't know so like someone being like Richard a blue shirt I'd be like I don't know but I guess it's also a conversation it's like I don't know what's the difference you know so looking at it maybe it's more of a conversation than a decision is right right right how do you do that Jason I mean you if you when somebody told me once it's okay to say you don't know it freed me up a lot like that that's actually a great a great answer when they come to you with all the styles and so questions you say I'm going to come back to you on that give me a second to think about that yeah it's okay to do that yeah it's a lot of the you mean in election you're saying yeah I know I mean it I'm being serious yeah yeah I think it's a really important life I do it to also when people go either they want an answer I'm like well I so many told me like I don't have to answer them on their timeline that's right yeah I only learned it in like last 10 years where I've said I don't know I don't know a year ago I don't know what that word means I don't know what you're talking about yeah what can you repeat what you just said like yeah I don't care anymore um but the I want to get back to um why don't care about being perceived as like this yeah no I understand what you know it's actually helped me with like the not remembering people like I just go out on a limb and I'll try I'll think I think your name is this oh no yeah I'm wrong it's okay they say they say no it's not Kathy it's Melissa and I'm like sorry I go I go step further Oscar I go I think your name should be this wait so a little more of your of your personal stuff uh Oscar if you don't mind like your wife is this Elvira Lynn she's beautiful talented incredible documentary filmmaker um yeah she's incredible incredible and she I just saw the trailer and I did not know this until I was researching you for King Hamlet which I can't wait to watch it's you playing it's it what is it is it the making of the play Hamlet and it's following you around from about the process from rehearsal to know why is that what it is yeah so in 2017 it was this crazy confluence of things that happened where um my mother passed away in February my we got married in March in April our first child was born and in April I started rehearsals for Hamlet like this four hour version of wow Hamlet's think that I'm you know it was working out for like 12 years and so her being a documentary filmmaker and having a new baby and like just kind of not knowing how to process this you know she's from Denmark too and she's kind of thrust into this whole other world of stuff she just started picking up a camera I started filming you know around that time before before that we were also filming like I would play music and she would like film little music videos and we would put them under the me own stuff and um and so it was kind of a natural extension of that and so she just sort of filming because the idea was she was going to film some of the making of of this project and when all this stuff started happening she just kept filming so like when I went down to my mom for hospice she was kind of there and I told her you know this the only way we can do this is if it's okay if this never sees the light of day as well and she said yeah of course of course I don't even know what I'm doing I'm just filming because I don't know what up the fuck else to do and so that's what we did it and she filmed this whole process and then um put it away and then about a year ago took out the hard drives and sort of looking through it and sort of piecing it together with her great editor that just worked really cool and then she kind of came up with this kind of beautiful movie about what kind of what we do right which is like how you deal with your life and how those things intertwine and yeah did she did she did she say to you hey remember that thing we said we'd never show the light of day I'm working on it did she tell you or did she show you something first she showed me some first like hey I've been putting this thing together what do you think of this and yeah and I watched and I was like I don't know what I think of that but keep going you know keep keep going oh that's really cool and with a newborn on her hip the entire time yeah she sounds incredible yeah she's incredible yeah and she shot it as well and it's very it's very funny too because it's just it's the absurdity of everything that's happening and it must have been very vulnerable to watch that yeah yeah to watch it again I hadn't seen any of that footage yes and with mom and our family and you know it was yeah it was really really intense but really proud of her for doing it how did you guys how did you guys meet was it a julyard no no no she she happened to be in New York working on something right and she it was like a movie she had finished and it was like some after party for it and my manager at the time was like you got to come to this party and I was like I'm not I am preparing for my co-in brothers movie I'm not going to this thing he's like you do there's this chick you got it you just got to come and I was like all right and but I'm going to go dressed as lune cat and my guitar yeah well this is before I had started right but I dressed in the outfit and I was like and I'm gonna go and I'm gonna like I'm gonna try to do this thing where I can project warmth without smiling or see if I can do it you know or like tell a joke but not laugh to let anybody know it's a joke and let's see what happens you know and and so I went in and I was like sitting there with my fingerless gloves and eating and nobody else was eating and oh my and her being like a you know a documentary and was like who's this little brown weirdo you know in the corner and uh and like comes over and starts talking to me and and and then I told her I was a musician no way no way yeah perhaps you've heard of the closet had our sexuals that won't point she's like I can't tell are you flirting with me oh yeah yeah I am that's good you're not are you are are you a cat guy I'm sure you are you I bet they at but that was the question at the junk it wasn't that was the question do you play guitar and are you a cat guy it's so funny like a lot of these things I'm saying to like I do realize I do their anecdotes that I have said before and so but they're new to us I don't know if you guys get this but like saying anecdotes after a while you feel like I think I'm lying right yeah for really not so much I don't think this is true yeah yeah yeah sure yeah we're on hand with Star Wars we'll get to it I know but and I can't do it I know I can't wait I I I I used to think that I could speak to cats so I would like go to the backyard and like meow a lot and cats would come yeah and then let's just pause in here for a second I'll elaborate that was it it was just like rare and they were like that's why you liked the joke joke so I don't have a lot of time I don't have a lot of time I gotta get through this stuff because I want to know about ex machina ex machina incredible listen listen me I've seen it like 10 times I know I know every line Scotty and I quoted all the time you know we still go kiko go go right that made me laugh sorry wait so it came out in 2014 yeah how crazy do you believe the relevance it has today yeah I mean Alex Garland he's just wild isn't it yeah yeah he keyed into this thing and even the way that we gather information You know, he talked, you know, Nathan, the character I play, talks about like, well, yeah, you know, I'm going to gather all the signals from all the cell phones and I get it all in. That's how I get it. I mean, everything you talked about in the movie is happening right now. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I just. Yeah, I wonder, does that occur to you when you see stuff or you're reading stuff that's going on in the world and you go, yeah, yeah. I was there. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it felt like that when I read the script and then Alex Garland and I kept like talking about it and working on it. Look at it from every angle and look at like the current, you know, literature and everything that was going on at the time and it just, it felt like completely locked in and, you know, it's amazing how old that is. Alex Garland is. I mean, this guy, I mean, right. Yeah. Well, let's hope not all your films are harbinger, so let's do and it's a pretty bleak look into it. Yeah. I know. Yeah. But now a bit. But a bit. It's amazing in it and I, Cindy Villanue, like you get all the great ones that you get to work with. I read this. I want you to tell the guys, if you want to, I can tell it, which is one of the best pranks I've ever heard of on any film shoot, on Doom, when you, after the nude scene. Speaking of dance belts. Go ahead and tell it, Sean. Well, it's called. What is it really called? You call it a cock sock, right? Well, um. Or a modesty sock? Modesty sock. Modesty sock. Modesty sock. Modesty sock. Modesty sock. Modesty sock. Not everybody calls it that, but yeah. I'm going to get it wrong, but you left your. so you did the scene and you had a quote, "modesty sock sock on." And you put it in Denise jacket pocket, right? And it says "Jazz pocket." And he later pulled it out. Yeah. Well, I left and then I got a picture of him holding it like what the fuck? At the dinner table. And then he said, he says this is true that MoMA asked for it. Oh, my God. Oh, really? Really? Well, they beat Smirk to get it. Hopefully they got a wall big enough. Hey, all right. Yeah, for you. Go for you. Yeah. Go for you. Uh, Sean, do you have anything on Star Wars? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Just the dumb, the obvious question. It's like, were you a fan? Right. You start to win a real place. Look at this. That's the way. What's Darth Vader like in the morning? No, the basic question is, were you a fan? Were you freaked out that you got the part? Like, was it? Were you a huge fan as a kid? No, but my family were huge, huge fans, like collectors. Yeah. My uncle in particular was massive. Oh, wow. He loved making that phone call. Oh, man, that phone call was, uh, it was great. He came. He was an extra a couple of times. You got to when you were there. I remember I brought him, you know, he, he died a couple of years ago, which was, you know, but it's so rest and peace, but it was the most amazing thing. Like, I brought him. Uh, I couldn't find him. And he was like, in Carrie Fisher's trailer, just like, hanging out. Yeah, that's crazy to me. That's crazy. I mean, Scott, I mean, I just visited the set of the new Star Wars movie with Sean Levy directing when I was in London. And we got to go to the creature shop. I mean, we, that's like everything we're for. I don't know if you're into that. But I was just like, it's so, it's so cool that you were part of the reboot of this franchise. You were the, the first part of the reboot. I mean, after three years. And look at where it's at now. It's like last night at the dinner table. Jason and we're all sitting around and out of nowhere. I go, is anybody seen the trailer for Mandalorian and Grogu? Just silence. Except I said I seen it. And it's fantastic. Yes. I can't wait to see that movie. And didn't you say, yeah, that you, you have not seen the trailer or you refuse to see the trailer? Me? No, God. I saw like the sound on or something like that. Oh, no, no, no. I saw it. I love it. Oh, no, no, no, no. The guy I was with yesterday said that he, he will not see it yet because it'll get his, he won't see it until it's closer to release because he's just going to get too excited. You can't sustain the excitement. Yeah. All right. Rapid fire before we let you go. Ready? Yeah. The one to ask her, Isaac Cork, that would drive me insane and what's the one that I would love? You cook? Sean. Sean, look at you. I don't, I don't really cook, I mean, I can cook, but I don't cook a lot. So, so Sean's not happy with that. What would he love? Oh, God. What would drive you crazy? What would you love that I don't cook very much? What would you love? I, I, um, theater stories. Theater stories, hugs. I'm very affectionate. Oh, he loves that. He got appropriate unnecessary, impromptu, hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs. Who's, who's most likely to win in a board game, you Jessica Chastain or Ethan Hawke? Oh, I guess it depends on the board game, but, you know, it's gravel. Oh, it's gravel. Sure. Sure. I'm going to go with Ethan because, you know, he's like a poet and a writer and he's just a, you know, that's. I know. I can't wait to see his show. He's, yes. I don't mean to. He's so incredible. Yeah. Love him. Yeah. And I love that you, I read that you improvised lullabies for your two sons. No, what? You just sit there with, you sit there with the guitar and you just make up songs for them? I, I did. Well, now it's funny because I, I did that for a while and then they were like, please stop. And so they got old enough to say stop. Yeah. And they just didn't like whenever I would like play guitar or sing and that went away for a bit. But recently in the last year, it's, I just bought this looper pedal. And you're like, we've got this, you know, I'm just kind of showing a little bit like we got like, oh, drums here. Oh, look at this. Wow. Why is there's the looper pedal down there? I am. It's over there. Yeah. And so we've just been making a lot of music together. How old are they? Uh, he's going to turn six, Mads is going to turn six on Sunday and Eugene is eight. Oh, my God. Wow. Yeah. Try and time. So good to get them into that, young. And how old are you? Are you playing piano? Five. Oh, really? There you go. Yeah. Um, um, what do they, do they have, have you seen dad's movies or anything? Yeah. Yeah, they've seen some of them. They've seen Star Wars. Eugene's actually asked me about Star Wars yesterday. How are they with the notes? Are they kind with the notes or anything? They're, they're the little tough with the notes I've got to say. Kids are tough. Um, I can't, I can't say enough about you in Frankenstein. I just think it's an incredible performance. It's just blew me away. I can't say enough about you and everything. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're, you're fantastic and you're very nice to join us. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really cool. Thanks guys. And I will, I can't wait to see what you did in that movie, man. Yeah. Oh, and that's good. What do you see that he and Brad be just rocked it. Thanks, man. Uh, no, you're one of the, you're one of the great, you're one of our greats, man, for real. Yeah, you are. You are. And you're a great dude. We've hung out a couple of times. You're such a great dude. It's so. Appreciate that. Yeah. Enjoy the rest of your day. Good luck. Thank you all. We're all going to go see it. Awesome. Thank you, Oscar. Thanks, buddy. Thanks guys. Thanks Oscar. Bye, pal. Bye. Well, that was touching. Good night to Oscar there. Hello. Hey, I could talk to him for Reva. Oh, my God. He's in so many of my favorite movies. I mean, that X-Making is just incredible. Everything. But you know, wait, do you see Frankstein? I can't wait. Incredible. Everything that guy does is so incredible. I know how somebody's so good. I know he's so good. Um, it's all I have to say. I'm like blown away. I'm literally. We're all thinking here about all this different performances. You're like, oh, yeah, he's so good. Oh, he's so good in that. Yeah. Oh, he's something in the water at Juilliard. Or do you think they come in? They come in already. I think they do a pretty good job of vetting and, and, you know, there aren't. But what we should do is we should do an episode where we have the people from Juilliard who never did shit. We are bright. Right. Right to have them alive. We were right. Or the people that didn't make it in, you know. Or the people that didn't. It was us. It's us. There's a first three. Doesn't get shitier than us. Do you think they do, like, do you think they teach people musicals and, and, uh, Juilliard? Like what? Like, do you think of any other top of your head? 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