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Oregon HC Dan Lanning, Nebraska HC Matt Rhule, Tarik Skubal is a Dodger, Mt Rushmore of Worst Places Your Wife/Girlfriend Takes You

The podcast episode covers a range of sports topics, centering on the Dodgers' blockbuster trade for Tarik Skubal, which the hosts argue epitomizes baseball’s competitive imbalance. They contend that the Dodgers' financial power, deferred money, and prospect depth allow them to dominate, potentially pushing the sport toward a lockout and a salary cap debate. The hosts discuss how other teams, like the Brewers, can’t compete due to their reliance on cost-controlled prospects, and they criticize small-market owners for not spending. They also touch on other trade deadline moves, including Kevin Gausman to the Cubs and Freddie Peralta to the Rays, while lamenting the Phillies’ inaction. Transitioning to football, they recap NFL training camp stories, such as Deebo Samuel’s return, Kyle Shanahan’s concussion, and Tony Romo’s CBS departure, with JJ Watt stepping in. They preview upcoming events like the Hall of Fame game and Hard Knocks, and engage in lighter segments like "Who's Back the Week," highlighting Wembanyama’s new logo and Carl Ravage’s continued work. The show also features an interview with Oregon coach Dan Lanning, who discusses his coaching philosophy, early career struggles, and motivational methods, including smashing a Washington helmet. Overall, the episode blends analysis of baseball’s systemic issues with football season excitement and personal anecdotes.

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On today's part of my take presented by Draft Kings, we have organ head coach Dan Lanning and Nebraska head coach Matt Rule, the last of our big 10 media week interviews. We are going to talk some national sports podcasts topics as like Terrick Schooble is now a Los Angeles Dodger and Major League Baseball might be ruined. That's what people are saying. We'll address that. The trade deadline is coming Monday, three o'clock, NFL training camps, who's back the week and we have the Mount Rush more of worst places your wife or girlfriend takes you to. So it's a great Monday show. We're getting closer and closer to football. We're officially in a football month and it's all brought to you by our friends at Chevy summers in full swing. That means no schedules, no plans, just more of the good stuff. Chevy Silverado makes that possible. There's a reason Chevy's called the heartbeat of America and the Silverado keeps the heartbeat strong. 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The Dodgers ruin baseball. Everyone's upset with the Dodgers granted any other team could have put together an offer to trade for Scoobal. Correct. Not a free agent signing. It's a trade. It's a trade. So any other team could have done it. Any other team could have afforded to pay Scoobal if they want to even if they want to take on his entire salary this season. That was something that I think I believe just about every team in baseball. Well, yeah, it should be should be equipped to do. Now that's in theory. Yes, no, yeah. Now in practice, the team that would be most likely to actually trade form would be a team that felt like they had an inside track on negotiating extension with them. Correct. At the end of this season, if we do have another season of baseball, this might be the last year of baseball of all time. So yes, the Dodgers did have a leg up. They do have a lot of deferred money that they can offer in the future. One billion dollars. They do have a sweetheart TV deal, which I've tried to understand. Can't do it. So many times can't figure it out. Can't do it. It's just easier for me to say that they're cheating. Yeah. It's all right. So I we've made this point before. We talked about this ad nauseam. I do think that it's yes, the initial reaction is fuck the Dodgers. I thought that right away on Saturday night. Max, actually, like you know, it's it's bad when Max side texted me. We were just both lamenting. The Cubs have since made a move in Kevin Gosman. So that I'm excited about that. But the Dodgers are able to operate from position of strength that no other team really can right now. And that's because they have not only the money, but they have prospects and they're okay with getting rid of the prospects because they don't need to rely on the prospects for their future success, like a brewers or a raise or a small market team that basically like the brewers have a ton of really good prospects. They could have made a better offer to the tigers to get Tarek scoobal. But the brewers in order to be successful going forward have to have cost controlled prospects get good and become major league baseball players and have those guys be really good on a cheaper deal so that they can continue to win and be a competitive team. So it's like the Dodgers, they can trade their prospects. And if the if whatever doesn't work out, guess what? They can just go get a free agent. Whereas other teams can't do that. They can they they have a room for error that other teams don't have. I still maintain and you see you see it kind of shifting a little bit. The Dodgers doing this. And if the Dodgers do win another World Series, a third in a row, which that's not guaranteed, by the way. Like I know that everyone's like, oh, there's just no reason to play the right. They almost lost last year. Crazy things happen. They went to game seven last year. They didn't need to like. They got swept the weekend. They got swept this weekend. Yeah. So who they play Red Sox. Okay, there you go. It's this game. I don't know. Just just heads up top the eighth. No, but crazy shit happens. Like, especially like the the everyone everyone tweeting out and posting the Dodgers rotation. Guess what? In a five game series. Like that's when you could get them because you can't start, you know, like I think Terrick's Google and young motor are very scary when you could hypothetically see both those guys total of four times, maybe five times, depending on like short rest. That's when it gets fucking crazy. But in a five game series, short and series, you still, one of them, you never know what happens. But yeah, Otoni hasn't really pitched since when, since like, no, yeah, it's these July. I don't think I think that's part of the reason why they went out and got so aggressive because they don't think Otoni's gonna play. But if you look at their lineup, though, is what I'm saying. Like, yes, they've got two studs, right? And then they've got some other guys that you could look at and be like, these guys could be absolute stud. Well, yeah, they have sions everywhere. And they could be a crazy line up to face. But nothing's guaranteed. Even if it's a seven game series, like the thing is it was, it was so close last year, we're so close to having the blue J's beat them. It does feel like we can try to fight it as much as we want. And the Dodgers somehow, some way, are just going to figure out a way to outspend everybody. And this was just, I know they want it scuba, and I know they want to extend scuba. But also, this is them saying, like, yeah, we know that the brewers were trying to get them. This is as much about keeping them away from the brewers as it is getting him to Los Angeles. So so back to what I was saying about the Dodgers and everyone getting upset. I kind of made this point last week when I was like, you know what, let's go. We'll go to the Dodgers. So everyone's just get like, it's just going to ruin baseball and we'll go to a lockout. You do kind of see that the court of public opinion is starting is shifting towards actually maybe backing the owner saying we need a salary cap, which is a rare thing for I feel like, you know, in this day and age, people are savvy enough to be like, you know, fuck these billionaires. They, they make money every single year and then they cry poor and it's bullshit. But you're getting to a point where the competitive advantage is so severe in baseball. And I still maintain the biggest problem is the, the a lot of these owners just don't spend money. It's not as much the Dodgers. It's the pirates and the and the royals and some of these small market teams that just won't put out a competitive team. But either way, I think that a lockout is going to happen. I think actually the quarter public opinion is like, yeah, we do need a salary cap now, which makes me think maybe this is, I don't know if you've seen Frank the tank and I think KFC have been on this that this is just all collusion and the owners are just letting the Dodgers get these guys because everyone is going to get to the new CBA and be like, how can we not have a lockout? The Dodgers are going to win every single year under the under the current circumstances. And there were two times that they went to discovery. Back in the MLBPA filed a lawsuit to get access to some of the documents and the communications from the owners to try to prove collusion. It happened in 1980s. It happened. I believe in 2008. I think it's probably going to happen again with this because it does feel like this is pushing, like the narrative is swinging now in favor of the owners. Yeah, they want a salary cap. And the salary cap is probably going to happen. But actually, well, the owners are saying here's the real like crossroads right? The owners are saying we need a salary cap 100% non-negotiable. Players are saying non-negotiable. No salary cap. That's non-negotiable. So you can see that there's a we're going to have to to agree to disagree a little bit on that one. the salary floor is what the owners are putting out there. - That's where you got a negotiator. - That's where the negotiator happens. We'll see just how high that floor could be. - That's where the pirates and the owners that are not serious owners, that's where they fuck everyone. - But I think if you're the MLBPA and where they're coming from is they have the understanding that baseball right now has had the best union of, I guess you could say the NBA's had a pretty good players union as well. But they've been pushing back against the idea of a salary cap for forever. They will have to live going forward 20, 30 years from now. If they are the one, if they're the union that finally agrees to give the owners a salary cap, they will have to live going forward knowing that they're the ones that did that. That every future player has a salary cap because of this negotiation and I don't think that's what the union heads want to be known for as their legacy. So that's going to be a tricky thing to negotiate. Now the floor will see how high the floor offer is going to be because that's going to have everything to do with whether or not they can find some common ground. But it does feel like there's just no way, the only way I could see it happening to get the cap is if the union convinced the owners, you need to open up the books, have them audited, give us the real numbers of how much you're making, how much your expenses are, show me where the money is. And then only then can we have a real conversation about maybe having a salary cap. - Either way, right now it kind of sucks. I mean, Max, you were, like I said, we were texting us tonight, it sucks. I mean, I'm happy the Cubs are actually doing something. Phillies have not done anything as far as I know. - Yeah, not yet. - Well, the one random guy on Twitter said that Mike Trout has done deal to the Phillies. - Oh, okay, nice. Congratulations on that. - Yeah, yep, that guy. - Rain chasing Mike Trout. - Yep. (laughing) - So, but it sucks. It sucks, if you're an NL team, it sucks. I don't know how you beat the Dodgers in the seven game series. - I don't, it doesn't make any sense. They're, you know what it doesn't make sense? It doesn't make sense why this trade happened on Saturday. That's what doesn't make sense to me. If we're doing the, if we're doing the, the Bryan Winhorse, this is a good point. - If we're doing Bryan Winhorse, when's the trade deadline? - Tomorrow. - It's, it's Monday. - It does make a little sense. - Why, that offer would have been there on Monday? - No, I know, but the Tigers are most like, you're gonna also trade Casey Mice. And you had to do Tarek's School before you do Casey Mice. So that was probably the thought process of Scott Harris and the Tigers organizations. Like, let's get this one out of the way. Then, 'cause they're gonna, they're basically reloading everything. They're, they went forward a couple of years ago and last year and it's like, they've been teetering on that line of, are we gonna make a run or not? They played well for a little bit. But I think that's the reasoning is that they had to get down. They had to do Tarek's School so that they could then go down the road of, hey, now we're gonna get, we're to Casey Mice. Well, who should, who also will get a good price? - But I feel like if you're, if you're shopping your ace, you can wait a little bit longer and get other off competing offers. Like, as the weekend goes on, and as Monday goes on, I don't think you're gonna get any worse offers. - But you see what I'm saying, they had to, they're gonna trade another, they're gonna trade their other great pitcher. - Yeah. - So they, I think they had to do this so that, 'cause otherwise it's like, you're talking, you don't know what your, your future's gonna look like until you get rid of Tarek's School, see what you have. Then you get, then, all right, we got these prospects. Now we're gonna figure out what we're gonna do with Casey Mice. - That's, that's, that's the reason as far as I see it. I think you could probably walk into gum at the same time and, I mean, we're not that far away from the trade deadline. It was 36 hours before the trade deadline. - Yeah, but I mean, the, the offers are only gonna get better. - Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how many teams we're actually gonna be offering, 'cause again, you're, it's a two month rental for Tarek's School. - Right. - And the Dodgers are the only team, they're the most likely team to sign Tarek's School to his future deal. So it's like, how many, the Brewers, again, like the Brewers could have offered more, but the Brewers have to say, are we gonna offer guys that could be cost-controlled for the next six years for two months of Tarek's School, they're not gonna. So that's probably why it was probably a limited amount of teams that were, were in on Tarek's School. As far as I can tell, they've-- - It sucks. - Maybe the Dodgers just know that we're not gonna ever have baseball again, so they might as well give them the whole farm system. - It sucks, it sucks. - It's obviously good for the, it's obviously good for the Tiger's owner. Like, I know that it is little conspiracy theory, blah, blah, blah. But they're all in this together because the bigger picture right now is what is going to happen next year. - I agree, I agree. - So I refuse to believe that that didn't have something to do. - No, I said it last week when I was like, if Tarek's School goes to the Dodgers, you'll see the flooding of people say, like, hey, this is fucking bullshit and it's all broken. And yeah, it does see, I mean, we all know it's broken. We're about to have a lock, we're about to have no baseball. We got to get it just sucks. I mean, you can't compete with this rotation. - Although it is injured. - Like Blake's now has been injured, Glast now has been injured. - But they're gonna be dead. - I know, yeah, no, they'll probably have, that's the thing. The Dodgers are so good, they have Siong, they have Siong pictures that are gonna most likely be like the eighth in a guy in the World Series. - There's six highest paid pictures would be the 18th highest payroll. - Yeah. - That's fucking crazy. It's $1.1 million deferred. It's their rotation. You don't need that many pictures. That's the craziest part. Everyone's throwing out, did you see Max? Everyone's throwing out their like the Dodgers. - There's second, there's second rotation. - Yeah, but they were saying like they're five starters and they just didn't put in Reblesky, who's like one of their best pictures. - I was seeing stuff that they have their top five starters and then they have another five starters that would still be one of the better rotations in baseball. - Yeah. - It's so fucked. - It's fucked. - Yeah, the top five would be, according to this graphic, Scoobalo, Otoni, Glasnow, Snell, Yamamoto. - Yeah. - And Glasnow and Snell have done, I mean, Snell, I think is about to come back and Glasnow is gonna come back in like a month. - And Otoni's probably gonna, - Yeah, he'll pitch in the playoffs. - He's not gonna, hopefully he doesn't pitch in the regular season. - Yeah. - PCA. - Yeah, PCA. - Yeah, see, look at this. They just have another rotation. - I am excited that the Cubs got all, just like top 50 guy prospects better. - All right. - Look at there, Sterex, Scoobalo, he's just shaking everyone's hands. - The Dodgers just do things better. I learned today, I was telling you guys before, I learned today that Dodgers have a plane just for the players, where they all, like usually when a team leaves, they have to wait an extra hour, hour and a half to get all their gear on the plane. The game ends, if they have a road trip, the game ends, the Dodgers players just get on the plane and they go, and then all the gear comes later, and it saves them an hour and a half, which I know that's not a lot, but you stack that over 162, they're just better. - It's a good organization. I have to hate the Dodgers because that's what you do when a team becomes like the big bad evil empire like the Yankees did back around the turn of the century. And like late 90s, early 2000s, when it seemed like they were just buying everybody. - Is it is so funny that they're running based on how to route against those. - How Steinbrenner, like the Yankees owner, he can't even afford the Yankees. It's gotten so out of hand. Like he can't be, the Yankees can't be the Yankees. There are only two teams that can do this. It's the Mets of the Dodgers. And that wasn't a compliment memes because you guys, memes are so checked out. He thought the trade deadline was Tuesday. Oh no. He is not even-- - Tuesday Monday. - Yeah, the Knicks have ruined me. - They really have. He said he was like, oh, we got trade deadline on Tuesday. It's like, we're talking about, dude. It's like 12 hours to go. Whatever. - The Dodgers Roons. No, no, the Dodgers Roons baseball. But again, I think that's okay, because we need it to be fixed. We need it to be fixed. - If you're the Tigers right now, are you still maybe holding on to some hope that like, maybe school will just, maybe it's just a rental and then he's gonna, he's gonna-- - Zero. - Nose and come back. - He's gonna test the market. - Zero point zero percent. - And the Dodgers, I mean, the Tigers, like the only thing you could say the Tigers might have done incorrectly is, like should they have traded school will before the season in getting a little bit more. But you also have a team that was, you know, won the center, or I don't think they won the center last year 'cause I remember the Guardians caught them and then the Guardians lost. But like, they've been competitive and in the playoffs, so you can't just like pull the plug on that. I, yeah, it sucks. I feel bad for Tigers fans. Starrick's school will, that's a guy that should be a tiger for life. Like you should be rooting for him for life. He's an unbelievable pitcher, he's a hawk, he's a fucking killer. That's a guy that you should be able to, your team should be able to afford to keep him and it should be like, that's a guy who's just a legend of your organization. - And then skeens is the other bandmates out there. - And then someday, you know, the Savannah bananas come to Detroit in school will pitches. - Yeah. - For the bananas. Your skeens-- - skeens is the other name that's out there. If he goes to the Dodgers, we should just, other teams should just be like, fuck you. - I mean, skeens hasn't been great, skeens hasn't been skeens this year. He's been not the same skeen. - His velocity is way down. - Yeah. - I, he'll just go to the Dodgers and then just be skeens again. - Yeah, he would. - I think, I think he'll be fine. I did see the graph that showed like, over the course of every start that he's had in his career, how many pitches that he's throwing like 98 plus, which seems kind of like an arbitrary number to draw the line at, but it's, it has dipped down quite a bit. - Yeah, no, he hasn't been good. He's, I mean, for Paul Schienz. He's, he's still a good pitcher overall, but he's not Paul Schienz. All right, what else? Freddie Peralta got traded to the race. Rays were going all in. Mm-hmm. I liked it. I mean, the MLB trade deadline, it's, it's fun. I mean, I'm happy that, like I said, the Cubs did something. They still got to do more. The Philly's got to do something. You got, I mean, I think the Yankees have to do something. Are the Red Sox going to do something? They should. Yeah. How do they make a trade? Oh, no, they made that trade last week. I think the White Sox, the White Sox made a trade on Saturday, which is good, like the White Sox are competitive. They're going for it. The Nats are now selling. They officially selling. Yeah, officially selling. We got swept by the braves this weekend. So we need pitchers. So we traded Luis Garcia, who's leading the NL in slugging. Really good against right-handed pitchers. Doesn't really hit against lefties, but trade him the Yankees. And the Yankees sent back, like, basically they're like, hey, we're just going to give you every arm. Do you want arms? OK, we've got young arms. Take the arms. Some old arms. The hope is that one of those arms will turn into a rotation guide at some point. Someone's going to get Mason Miller maybe? Mason Miller will be awesome. Mason Miller is like-- Hodges are still in the-- I think they're in the playoffs right now. So I don't really understand that one, but-- I feel like Mason Miller-- we should be talking about Mason Miller more. Yeah, he's just in general for how good he is. He's absolutely insane. Do you see, by the way, so-- Terrick School is going to-- I think his first start is scheduled for Wrigley on Tuesday night. And then in a weird-- this would be a fun quirk, only baseball. Kevin Gossman, his first start for the Cubs, could be Thursday against the Blue Jace, because we have one game makeup. Wouldn't that be funny? Yeah. So the one game makeup would be against his former team. Yeah, that'd be crazy. Yeah, wild. Are you going to get your check in front of the school ball again? I don't think the Cubs couldn't turn around fast enough. I was going to maybe get it on Monday. I was-- it would have been funny if it was just another replay of me getting a check, and just school ball was in a different jersey two weeks later. Maybe still-- maybe they could do it on Tuesday. That'd be cool. I'd do that. I'd go. I'll get my check. I'll get my check on Tuesday. All right, what else-- trade deadline? Max, do you have any wishes? I don't know. I mean, try would be awesome, just because he's-- He's an eagle, so he's an eagle. He's basically all the eagles. But again, I just have it on the eagles on the fill. I don't think he wants to play for a team that's going to be in the playoffs. As he does. No, I think he likes not playing. He might not-- so he can watch Eagles games. He might not like-- yeah, that's good. OK, that's what he does. But if he was in Philly, he could just go to the gate. I need that on the table. I might miss. I need that on a quote card, though, that might try to be awesome, because you basically have an eagle's player on the fill. Yeah, that's true. But I am conflicted, because if they go and are buyers, I'm going to get excited about it. But I don't know who we can add to compete with Dodgers. Like, they were better-- They were way better than us going into this weekend. They were way better than us going into this year. And like, they're-- they just got the best pitcher in baseball. Anything can happen, though. But with a staff like that, it's so hard. It's so hard. I'm looking up who has the best average against Scooble. Joshua Carota Grower, the guy that got his nut blown up last week. He bats 1,000 against him. You should trade for that guy. Crack would love him. A guy like that. Crack would-- yeah. Crack's the best. I don't know. If they don't make any moves, it'll suck. But I'll be like, you know what, whatever. The Dodgers are going to win anyway. If they do make moves, I'll convince myself. I'm not ready to get-- I'm not ready to get the title to the Dodgers. I'm not. I'm not. I think baseball is fluke. I mean, remember the Dodgers, remember the Dodgers would complain, like, before they started winning all these World Series, they would complain that the five game while DS was unfair, because they just kept losing it. They lost it in a couple of times. They had, like, over 100 win seasons. Yeah. I'm remembering that correctly. Remember they lost-- who did they lose to the Padres? They lost some series where it's like, oh, it's bullshit. They're so good. And they lost it. Yeah, the best team in baseball, but weird shit happens. Yeah. Look at-- yeah, look it up. Come on, Max. So they won the last two World Series. Yeah. Yeah, they lost the Diamondbacks and the DS. Two years, three years ago. And what happened-- But it's kind of bad. Like, the Roasters is just so much better now. But we say that a lot. This is a super team. I'll give you that. This is maybe the most egregious Dodgers Dodger team of all time. But weird things can happen, Max. And you guys are so close. Remember that last year? He wasn't even on this team. Max, remember that Thursday night? I'd stop it. Eagles are planning against the Giants. What was that game for, game five? No, game four. OK. So you weren't that close. Max is taking off his headphones. Well, he's-- that was like the worst night of my life. 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I feel like this might be it for Tony Romo with CBS. And it does feel like they might use this as an excuse. Here's what Tony Romo has in his back pocket that could potentially save him. Jerry Jones. Did you hear Jerry Jones talking about Tony Romo and how much he loves him? And he's just like he's he's gotten hit and he'll get back up. Jerry Jones, he's going to put some screws to CBS if he if they try to can his boy. Yeah. That might be the power play that you have because you know, Jerry Jones loves that all the Cowboys have jobs in media. So CBS, they I can see what they're doing right now because the writing was somewhat on the wall where maybe they weren't super out. You don't let those reports leak out last year about Tony Romo about how like he needs to prep more for games. Those don't those don't get leaked out unintentionally. And the fact that maybe there might be some sort of an excuse, I don't know. What kind of leave like what are they hoping to see from Tony? Are they negotiating a buyout right now? Is that why he's on leave? I don't know. Is he seeking treatment? Is he a grandma grandpa's house? He might be. Where is Tony? I do feel I feel bad that JJ what his like JJ what is really good at announcing and he's going to be really good with Jim Nance and it's kind of sucks that like he's he's been put in this predicament where it's like, oh, you're getting this job. We don't know if it's your job. Just give JJ the job. He's good. He'll do great. He'll fucking he will do his homework. He'll be really good. He's great. You've got like Greg Olson is great Tom Brady has gotten better. We might be entering the golden age of announcers. Yeah. So Tony Roman ice for now. I cannot believe we had him on the show a month ago and this is all transpires. It's insane. Like we were we were begging CBS to get rid of him. I know. And then we spent an hour with him. We're like, that guy was cool. I mean, he was a cool guy. He's cool about us, but I mean, I this this was in motion well before we ever sat down with Tony Romo that they might not have been super happy with how how much they're paying. You know what this goes to show is like every time I see what the salary of like an in-game analyst is for either Fox or CBS, it blows my mind. Yeah. It's crazy to me how much these guys get paid. Yeah. All right. I'm training camp stories, you tell stop if we want to talk at length about any of them. Debo Samuel back on the 49ers. I'm glad he's back. Also the 49ers, substation has taken all of them again, Ricky Pearson, PCL, didn't heal correctly. He's probably out for the year. Yeah. And the substation gets bigger. Have you seen the like the highlight clips from the practices? Yeah. You can't tell me that the substation was that big last year. I think it just gets stronger. It adds. It just keeps growing. also um let's see. - Look at that thing. Kyle Shanahan is like, this concussion is a serious deal. - Did you hear, like he did an interview last week where I think he had to keep his eyes closed 'cause like the noise of practice is fucking with him. He said that his decision making is delayed. So I hope he gets better, but like that seems like it should be a bigger deal that one of the best head coach of the NFL is having delayed decision making. - Yeah, it's not good. I hope he's okay. - Who do you think, like if there has to be like an in-game interim coach? I know Chris Forester is running the show right now on kind of interim basis. You think he's gonna be the one that's like calling timeouts, doing everything on game day? - I think it has to be Jim Tom Soule. They gotta bring him back. - I would love that. - Bring Jim Tom Soule back, let him just fucking go. - Let's see who else we got here. We got Raheem Morse. - That's okay. - Clay Kubiak. - Okay. - Chris Forester. - Okay. Matt Eberfluss. - Oh. - We might have to see what Matt Eberfluss has in store. - How did you get a job? Holy shit. - Yeah. - It really is incredible. If you raise, if you rise to the ranks of head coach or coordinator in the NFL, you just have a job. - Yeah. - Forever. - Yeah. - Someone will hire you. - Let's see who else. Anybody anyone else want this gig? - Did you see Matt Niggie's offense has been characterized as disjointed for the Giants so far. I love early training camp stories 'cause they're just like, okay, there's been disjointed, like just, it's just basically cliches and, you know, the offense looks good, but the defense looks better, so maybe that's good. All right, other stories. Saints sign Chris Olabe to four-year extension. Great for a guy's shock. Jadavian Clowney is still playing football. - Oh yeah. - On the Texans. Isn't that crazy? - Yeah, he's just done a series of one-year deals. He's been bouncing around the league a little bit. This feels like full circle, maybe his last season. - I don't know. We've said that probably a thousand times. - Yeah. - But that defense, good for them. - Yeah. Jadavian Daniels gave his mom a piggyback ride. - That's not true, that was a complete, that was AI. - Was it actually? - Yeah, it was fake. - Yeah, I know it was fake. - Well, you guys were on top of-- - Actually, yeah, you were on top of-- - That was real. - Yeah, that one was real. - It was me if he was getting a way back, right? - After practice in Ashburn, I hopped on Jaden's back. It's a little fun thing that we do after practice. And we do the Wii. And I say Wii, and he runs across the field. It's a fun little game that we have. And then somebody took that picture and put Jaden's mom on my face. - Are you saying football crave is not a trustworthy Twitter account? - I don't know. Football crave is the one that did the Photoshop. Or-- - Yeah, it was awesome. - There's football crave was all over it. - There's new law. - Against that sort of thing now. - Oh, really? - So just, you know, I would be careful. Just make sure that you-- - Get on the light face, don't put Jaden's mom on my face ever again. You'll get sued. Travis Kelsey's got a belly. He's having a good time. - Yeah. - He just got married, lay off the guy. - Yeah, he's got some, never mind, not gonna say what I was about to say right there. Good job, PFT, biting your tongue. At the last second before you said something awful. - But yeah, he does look a little bit larger. - Yeah, he looks happy. He looks happy. - There was also-- - He's gonna lose that. - Yeah. - Play his way in his shape. These guys, especially veterans, they show up, they look fat and then they just take one big shit and do a couple crunches and they're good. That's it. - They get in the cold tub for five minutes and they fucking have abs again. - I'm convinced my home is just gonna be back to the bad man again this year. - Oh, dude, I-- - I saw so many clips of him in practice that people are just, they're trying to dunk on my home. - Oh, like day one, day two training camp. He threw a pass into his center's head. - I saw that clip. - Yeah, very funny clip. He's just, he's gonna be good. He's gonna be really good again this year. - Yeah, no bad man's back. - The chiefs are, I mean, remember, the chiefs last year, they were like the snake bitten team like where they were just losing games that they should have won and all this shit. They're gonna be good and people are gonna say, "Well, what the fuck, how'd this happen?" They're gonna be good. I completely agree with you. If Travis Kalsey can take that big shit. - Yeah, he'll be okay. - He'll get to take that big shit. - He'll be okay. - "Tasem Hill" is a free agent and might play for the Broncos or should rock. - Yeah, no duh. - That would be so sick. - When he did his goodbye to the Saints immediately, he was like, "Yeah, I know one coach that's probably gonna give him a call." Sean Payton is absolutely in love with "Tasem Hill." So yeah, I'm sure he'll be a Bronco before the week's over. - And then we also had an incredible fan fight at Steelers Camp, which I loved so much because it was, we say it all the time, but this time of summer, if your team is fighting each other, it means it's time for football. You got to maybe do a, maybe the Steelers needed to do a practice with the Eagles, so we can get some, Eagles fans fighting Steelers fans. I used to live in Pickensburg kind of thing, but the best part of the Steelers fight is we had a grown man in a Steelers helmet, be the voice of reason and be like, "Be meant." He just show up and be like, "Be meant." And I think Pat Fryermuth might have stolen a child too during this fight. He got a, in a good way, he took a child out of harm's way. So shout out Pat Fryermuth, good guy award. - They need to do joint practices for the fans too. - Yeah, so I'm saying. - The fans are sick of hitting each other. - Right. - They need to have some actual opposition. - You're gonna say it. - And then there was some news about Miles Garrett. He's dealing with a little soreness in his lower half. - Okay. - That's the hockey injury, right there. - Yeah, lower body injury for Miles Garrett. So McVeigh is not having a practice. That's three days in a row that Miles Garrett has not practiced. It doesn't matter. He'll be fine. - Aaron Donnell will probably be a Rams soon. I saw, I think Shrager said that the Aeros pointing up towards him becoming, oh, Albert Brewer said it. - Okay. - So he's gonna be on the Rams. - If I was him, I would just-- - Go over to Australia right now. - What's happening with Los Angeles? They're just getting all the good teams. - Yeah. - Rams are gonna win it all? - Yep. - What? - Memes just said they need an earthquake. - Memes. - Memes, they don't need an earthquake. - Memes. Like, what size memes? You gotta clarify. - Big one. - Big one. (laughing) Memes. Memes. They don't need an earthquake. - You need a joke. - Okay, any other news from training camps? You go on? Me, Max. You're looking at me. - Yeah, well. - Next year on how you rose into the press conference and shades, that looked kind of cool. - Yeah, it's fine. - Yeah. - I was just told to not worry about the quarterback competition in Minnesota, even though it looks like Kyler. - Kyler's playing better? - Well, he had one good day and everyone said, just saying that, this is Kyler's job, it's Kyler's job, but JJ's played better in every other game, in every other practice. - Yeah. - But there was one day. - Saturday, Kyler played a lot better and was getting all the first team reps. But that's only because it's a new quarterback trying to learn a new offense. And it's not that I was giving a script of what to say here. - God, but also like this is the time of year that you want your quarterback to make mistakes. - Yeah, right? You want to take some shots. You want them to really be pushing it, then you can always dial it back. - Correct, yeah. - I think nine's gonna be the start of this year. My depth chart is, no, number one, nine. - The official, yeah, the official. - Number two is three irrelevant. - Yeah, agreed. - Mm-hmm. - Nine? - Nine, one. - Jalen Hertz said that he wrote a 100% alignment, zero entitlement in his notebook during Nick Sireani's address the team at the start of training camp. - Sounds like he wasn't listening. - He's got a notebook that he writes in when coach is talking. - He was just writing shit while coach is talking? - Yeah. - That's what I'll take notes. - I don't say, it sounds like alignment with Sireani entitlement. - Sireani said, it would make more sense if the article said that that was the message that Nick Sireani was giving in that Jalen Hertz was taking notes. It sounds like he was just doodling. - He was writing shit like Jalen Sireani. - Yeah. - Well, he was staring at coach. - Yeah. - Jalen Hertz is gonna have great year. - Yeah? - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. - Great year. - Okay. - The advantage Smith might have 1800 yards. Birds are gonna be good. - Okay. - You're buying it 'cause it's an off year where you have a real offensive coordinator. - Right. Everyone keeps saying he's an evil genius. - Sean Manian? - Yeah. - Love here in the evil genius. - Evil genius. - Where is that the evil? - I don't know. That's just what people are saying. - Evil genius. - Yeah. - You want your football coach to be a little bit evil? - I'm excited for hard knocks on Tuesday night. We're gonna watch the first episode in record after. That is really the official start of football season. Not the Hall of Fame game, it's hard knock. - It's just kinda weird that they decided that they were gonna just forget the rule about if a team made the playoffs. - Yeah. - And so it's just the Super Bowl champion's gonna be a hard knock. - Well, I think they had to forget the rule because there's 17 hard knocks now. - Yeah. - Like there's in season, there's OTA, there's hard knocks. It feels like every two seconds you turn around, there's a hard knock. - Right, in preparation for the Hall of Fame game, our friend Warren Sharp tweeted out, you ever go on like pro football reference and it always has like all the players nicknames and you get to learn nicknames that you've never knew existed. Bryce Young, his nickname is the Carolina Reaper. - Ooh. - Have you ever heard that? - No, but I like it. - It's a pretty good nickname. - I like it a lot. - The Pepper, yeah. - So it's gonna be, well, Bryce Young is not gonna play. We're gonna get some fun quarterbacks of Panthers vs Cardinals. - Yep. That's gonna be all. a lot of fun. Wait, let's see. Who's gonna see the depth chart? Yeah, yeah. Well, it's Carson Beck going to play probably not. They don't even played like the ones and twos anymore in this game, right? Oh, Gardner Minshue. Kedon Slovis. Yeah. USC Pitt fame. He came on the show. Did he? Yeah. I think he was a guest on the show. Kedon Slovis. So we could have Kedon Slovis and Gardner Minshue versus. Can he pick it? Wow. And Haynes King. Haynes King. This is gonna be fun. A Georgia Tech Pitt match. We're gonna watch ACC football on Thursday night. I can't wait. I'm so excited. It's gonna be the uniforms. We're gonna get to see the uniforms. The Cardinals, by the way, yeah. I think you mentioned it. The Cardinals having an over-under win total of two and a half is very. I got it. It's crazy. They're gonna win. It's three and a half. Oh, three and a half. Okay. The old-time little half will be. No, it's three and a half. I mean, they are tanking. All-time lowest was three wins. And that was the expansion Panthers and Jaguars. Okay, so it's three and a half. I might have to take this over. They have the hardest schedule in the NFL. But it would also be so fun to like have them stuck at three wins. We, we 18 just being like, come on. They're just trying to win a game. They don't have any tape on on the floor. That's the thing. Yeah. And they have Jeremiah Love. We should've won highs. They got Jeremiah Love, yeah. That's you. I have seen a couple clips of him in training camp where like they hand the ball to him. And there's instantly four guys in the backfield. Yeah. But maybe that's just that nasty. Arizona Cardinals defense. It is also funny. They have Tyler Alger. He feels like he just follows a really good running backs. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Let's throw this guy out there too. Smart strategy. You don't want to burn Jeremiah Love for a team that has an over under three and a half wins. Let's see. And so a class of 2026 in the pro football Hall of Fame for the Hall of Fame game. We got Drew Brees. Okay. Getting inducted. Who do you think's going to give? Oh, that's kind of a slap that they didn't get the Saints to play in this game. Yeah. He's, he's the headliners. He not Larry Fitz as well. He's not retired. But he is going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Larry Fitz. Yeah. Luke Keakley. That would mean the Panthers, Adam Venetari. Okay. Colts legend. And then Roger Craig. Okay. What a good class. Drew Brees. It does not feel like Drew Brees has been retired for five years. No. No. It doesn't. That kind of fox me out. Where's that? Where's the picture? Oh, this certificate? I keep it in the passing yard. I keep it in a very nice space right behind my, my spot, my desk on the floor. And I think I got a stain on it now. But look at that. Isn't that nice? Beautiful. It's beautiful. NFL record most passing yards. I actually saw in Metaho. He's like, that's bullshit. They gave that to you and not me. I was like, sorry, Drew. Sell it to him. I should. Yeah, hold it hostage. We should hold it hostage. Do you think Drew Brees. It would be nice to go next to Larry Fitzgerald's official retirement. It will. Yeah. This will have our own personal class of 2026 Hall of Fame enshrinement here. You think Drew Brees will, will acknowledge his daughter at the, I think he's got to do it first. Yeah. I think he's going to maybe make a joke of it or not because he doesn't know she exists. Yeah. No, he, he definitely will. That would be very funny if he, if he, uh, if he holds out till the very end, maybe gives her some extra shine. I've got a news. It's good to talk football with the points. I feel good talking ball. I've got a new slogan. Maybe we can think about doing for like maybe the part of my take 2026 NFL season slogan. Okay. We need one. Chop wood, carry water. Is that from Nick Sireani? Oh, is it? Yeah. I like that. What are we building? I don't know. Oh, he's not, he's ADD kicked it. Yeah. Hey, what do you like about chop wood, carry water? Rocky's real to me, which is more important. Chopping wood or carrying water? Chopping wood. Why? What do you, you, you got to live without water? But chopping wood is greater. Sorry. Wooder. Chopping wood is greater. Did he say it like that? It might have been chop, chop water, water. And they might have mistranscribed it. Chop water, carry water. I say water, except for what I say, I'm waterized something. Waterized and if I'm like, watering down a drink. What are you putting in the drink? If I put water, I'm watering it down. How often are you watering down drinks? Sometimes iced teas, I don't like iced tea. That's too sweet. So I see water down a lot with you. I don't think I've ever heard you say I'm going to water this down. I also don't think I've ever heard you say something's too sweet. I think that sometimes I see it's too sweet. I like it. I like it a little bit. Wooded down. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Chop wood. Okay. Yeah, chop wood. Yeah. Give us something about the box. I saw Baker kind of walk back his comments. He walked back a little bit. That's refreshing. He's still standing on the the whole we're getting a football now. Don't want to hear about it. They'll pay for it. He did walk it back, which feels good. Going into the season because he said there wouldn't be. It wouldn't lead into the locker room, but you don't want any animosity. Yeah. So I feel that did feel fantastic. Another thing I saw train campsite. You guys all could be the Shadoor Show and Cleveland. Oh, I've seen a little bit of both. I also saw a tweet that the best quarterback on the Browns roster is not Shadoor or Deshaw Blossom. It's Shadoor time. You think so? I think so. Yeah. He said that he said that he he found himself in a routine now and then he learned a lot from the last season. Now wait, is it, are they saying that, that what's his name? Dylan Gabriel, the guy from Arkansas. No, I think Dylan Gabriel, but maybe it's Dylan Green because we saw, I, I think I speak for America when I said we. We had our fill of Dylan Gabriel last year. I don't want to say that. I'd be okay with no more Dylan Gabriel. I don't want to say that because I would love for the Browns to start Dylan Gabriel so we can bet against them. Yep. That good point. Yeah. Remember what was the quarterback that would, what was the quarterback that the Browns started that was just an auto? Like I made, I didn't want to do it like once or twice. Fuck. DTR. DTR. DTR was my favorite. Holy shit, DTR. Thank you. There was just nothing about him that was a quarter back. He shouldn't have been out there and they're just like, we're starting DTR. It's like, all right. I'm betting against. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Yeah. We need those guys to be in the ecosystem. I would have confidence to be like, yeah, you know what? We're starting Dylan Gabriel. I'm like, thank you. I needed one free win this week. I would like to see Taylor Green. That would be fun. Oh, no, again, I go back to the funniest. I would like to see Deshand Watson play good for a couple of weeks and then the Browns give him an extension. That would be very funny. All right, it's good talk ball. That's great. Great. AJ Brown Christians consoles going out at every day. Iron sharp sharpened iron. AJ Brown confirmed eight summer and Michael is cookies. Okay. So that relationship going great. Oh, that's great. It's really good. That's great. You love to see that. You'd love to see that. Yeah. As a variable going to the podium with like orphans or I mean, that was just the Patriots. They were doing a thing to help, you know, shine a light on a charity for dogs and variable participated. He also brought his kid. Oh, good. The next day. Oh, coach brought a kid to train a kid. Wow. I mean, yeah, Sirion is kind of stealing his whole thing. Vrables initial was like, yeah, chop wood. If we went super bowl. I like you get it. No. Cut his dick off. Yeah. That sounds like good training camp going on. I also may got duped. No, no, I'm thinking about that. But what? No, you're saying it wasn't what? I'm about him bringing his kid. Oh, I'm just like adults. Yes, because they're very much. That's why I think that I could. I thought that was a little weird. And in real time, I did realize it. Guys, I got, I got a bad feeling that AI is just going to wreck our shit as a pie. Well, no, how do you specifically? I am a big, big fat idiot. Dummy. Yeah. Dummy. I did see it. When I saw the initial Jaden piggyback ride with his mom, I, I did have to examine that to, to double check. Yeah. They know exactly what we want. The AI smarter than all of us already. The, uh, I, the, the one thing that has come out of, well, two things came out of Bears camp. Kill Williams lost some weight. Looks great. And then Ben Johnson, like, attacked the regression narrative head on. He was like, yeah, we're the number one regression candidate. Also, because Liam Cohn and the McVeigh Mafia are still in their fields because Ben Johnson doesn't want to shake a hand. They're, they're making mistakes still. Oh, dude, they're all still, they're all, they all hate Ben Johnson, which I fucking love. But the McVeigh Mafia, because it all started Liam Cohn was like, no one talks about us, you know, you'll turn, you go to NFL.com to be 10 highlights of kill Williams, known when we had a better season than them or something like that. And, uh, Ben Johnson, like, yeah, we are the number one regression team. So people are going to talk about us and they're going to try to say that we're going to regress. But it is McVeigh Mafia being upset. They all are upset. They would, they would want to fight Ben Johnson if they could, like, they don't want one of like, gang up and beat him. Ben Johnson would beat all their asses. I do love, I do love how much they hate the guy. Oh, uh, hey, I also saw that our good friend Will Levis gave a, uh, a little quote to the newspapers the other day. So I don't think that there's 32 quarterbacks better than me. He's not done yet. Yeah. I'd like to see Will Levis out there again. If Dylan Gabriel is one of the 32, then I agree with that. I would 100% agree with it. - Without a doubt. - Okay. - What other quarterback? this will have us better than Jacobi right now starting Jacobi percent yep nine yeah no I don't know yeah I agree no okay no no not even close no who serve at the dolphins yeah who's been he did he did well last year I keep having to remind myself genome Smith's back on the jets that's right yeah what why do you have to keep it running I don't know because I keep asking myself who's gonna be the jet then like oh yeah Geno's back because we remember we we said we're not talking about last year when it comes to Geno and Pete Carroll so I don't it's like a gap year I didn't even know that I thought he retired last year because we're doing we're we're following through on our our promise fair but you should know you should know that okay you got to be better I know now I'm finding myself more and more day and day out it landed curious going in this year we've got I mean I don't know with Penex and Tuo what's going to happen that might be another one that he's better I mean but Penex to a combo is quite something I thinks the fan skis are left that is left this of me I'll agree a hundred percent but guess what my son's a lefty so I'm allowed to say it yeah I feel like I suffance gives a good coach yeah no he's a really good coach I don't know if he's I don't know if those are the quarterbacks you might need to get his quarterback might not be on the roster right now I don't know cousins are gonna be great for the thing is with with the raiders I don't know when they're going to start Mendoza because if you look at their schedule their schedule is actually Las Vegas has a crazy schedule there's no great place to put well I mean this is their bad yeah but they're look at the schedule pulled up I know but bad teams always if you look at any bad team schedule you're like that's a really hard schedule because you're playing the win-loss game you're like that teams bad sure but if you look at the raider schedule in particular I mean it's tough to figure out where you would put Mendoza makes the first week one the Dolphins yeah that's what I'm saying but they've already said they don't want to start week one week one the Dolphins week three the Saints isn't like a terrible spot chargers it's not that hard for a schedule jets but the jets in week seven that could be a place to start them they'll he's gonna play they have some easy games but what I'm saying is if you look at their schedule it's not like it's not like they're set up in a good spot for a rookie to come in I think there's gonna have to do week one dolphins they're gonna go back on their words that's probably the smart way to do it yeah okay let's do who's back the week and then we will get to our interviews with Dan landing in Matt rule awesome interviews I do like I actually enjoy the fact that we are now being accused of being Big 10 bias because we did a bunch of interviews when they were in our backyard it just reminds you that college football fan bases are the most insane and I love that about them like people are mad that we interviewed a bunch of head coaches because they're not the head coaches of their respective conference I like that I want to also the Big 10 has I think the more entertaining coaches of any conference well it's not even that they literally were doing media week 10 minutes from our office we're gonna go interview yeah like that's it that's a layup no travel get seven what do we do six six seven six seven really good interviews there he goes back the cursing that he by the way I'm still can't get over the handshake we went watch some tape and he he did it to kill into board before the Rose Bowl yeah that's his thing so I contacted I don't want to throw anybody's name one of the best some friends of the show people who are also big J's in college football media they've confirmed the same thing they also said yeah Tom for Nelly yeah and Andy Staples but they they also said that this is a Sabin thing too yeah apparently Sabin's known for having a really bad handshake but I think it's a warfare it might be I'll stay with that I think courtesy that he's doing it to fuck you up and he fucked us up but I also think that there's a reason it's it's a small part but it is part of the reason I think that he didn't get a head coaching job to lose 50 yeah because if you go on interviews and you've got two guys that the athletic director really likes looking at and they don't have a big body of work behind them if one of them has the worst handshake that you've ever felt in your life that might be enough to push that guy off to the side but Kurt's igniting now has the answer that works where he just can say I'm not here to shake hands I'm here to coach ball yeah just a handshakes and he wins he wins handshakes candy ass all right who's back the week has brought to you by Twisted T summers here and so is the twisted T summer party pack Twisted T is a refreshing 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where we're gonna make the joke so many times that we're actually gonna forget the next one title no you're not yeah you will always remember no I'm telling you Zach maybe you got to start stepping it is a historic run you'll never forget I understand over 100 years you understand what this show does we we joke ourselves into reality in your heart of hearts you know he's got it done way Hank said that he's was the star of the NBA finals I was like shit was he I mean I think if you looked at who got the most mentions on social media is probably wimpy that's that's his new logo not for me didn't the VW and see that's for me didn't he haven't that that looks like a guy with a beard I thought there was a logo that came out like six months ago when they did that big commercial it was like a cornfield I think that was like a teaser that was like a teaser for me where's the alien if you made a circle around it like the I was looking at as a beard a guy with a beard in a soul patch at first so it looks kind of like the guy Fox like smile or it actually kind of looks like a front and back chick with a big-ass booty see that's a booty in the front and then the or pussy's up top I'm seeing maybe some spread legs oh yeah and then the thing up top is like the bikini bottom yeah Rorschach back was that Rorschach test yeah so you guys are doing yeah yeah we're doing it right now also cinemas back why biggest domestic box office weekend of all time this weekend Odyssey Spider-Man you get another one new Spider-Man yeah brand new day brand new Spider-Man brand new day three hundred fifty five mill Odyssey made fifty one mill toy story five six point three three mill who's in I saw the invite it was really good who's a spider-man Tom Holland also Tom Holland is like all you can't escape on this week and Sunday also in Spider-Man she is and she's in Odyssey yeah I got to see these well I'm not gonna see Spider-Man but I gotta see the Odyssey oh she's good is it I'm going tomorrow yeah are you yeah what time 70 mill whoa you have 70 mill 70 millimeter oh film well you're a filmmaker and now I used to be yeah so I'm saying I used to be why don't they make more of those theaters this didn't help by the way whoever's making this I mean yeah I made that circle doesn't look like an alien with the circle I made it well you didn't I still can't see the alien really what do you mean I didn't what what didn't I do you're supposed to circle like the bottom is supposed to be the circle it looks like an alien wearing a sick pair of Oakley's I got it okay I just don't understand what he's saying it's all right hey you like Odyssey I like to see a lot okay too long no I saw last Sunday night after recorded didn't fall asleep darn it top five Nolan movie I mean that's a there's a lot of good Nolan yeah I thought it's pretty good it's long it I it felt I have been thinking about it a lot since I've seen it like I saw didn't really think about it and I haven't had that much interest in watching it again you didn't understand the Odyssey I saw and the more you know the farther away I got from it the more I've been thinking about it and I will definitely watch again maybe even try and go study moment did you say after all whenever you didn't understand why there's black and white half the movies and black and white no that's pretty sure you said that I thought that it was it's a long movie but it never felt long to me yeah which is that's a mark if I think a really good long movie yeah Tom Tom on not the best performance I agree like he was he was he's Spider-Man in Odyssey got it I agree was inspired by him no net also didn't really feel the sparks between it and half the way in Matt Damon so you think maybe he was a little too focused on Spider-Man Yeah, could have been I think he might have forgotten which role he was playing is is is are the movies back Is this one of those like Genzi don't they don't drink but they go to movies? Well, you know streaming covid cinemas dead like all these all these movies are going to Netflix and HBO No, we had Nicole Kim it in that ad. She was just like come back to the movies and we all did and they are yeah Yeah, we're listening sometimes heartache feels good into place like this. Mm-hmm Send them back What's lived? Don't What do you mean what is that we had this quote? They have an event next week. Okay. Oh, oh What event in New York bankruptcy filing is it a It's a head Trump's course. It's a Trump Trump won the senior club champion. Is it tournament or is an event? It's a it's a live event. Trump play. They should I agree are they the federal court? I was I was thinking about this because we're trying to figure out who the mystery bid might be For live. I think Trump might just buy live And do the Trump golf tour and just win it. Yeah, just yeah, I would watch too. I would want hell. Yeah Like everybody's televised except for him and then so he gets to say whatever number he thinks that he shot at the end of every round And so if you beat like he might beat Michael Kim. Yeah, no, it should be televised Okay, Anthony Kim. So none of it is live. It's only you only see his good shots. Yeah, that's what I'm saying like his shot Yeah, okay. You're right. So they follow it. They follow it But you don't see all of his shots. There's no Trump tracker. You in fact, that's a national security threat If there's a Trump tracker that account gets shut down immediately and then whatever he says he shot That's what we go with and then we see like three highlights from his round. Mm-hmm. I would watch that Okay, uh, you're who's back PFT. I'm I who's back of the week is Carl ravage. Yeah, Carl ravage is back He got let go unceremoniously from ESPN last week, and then he's just back on the air, and he's just still calling games Mm-hmm. I guess they gave him an option if he wanted to do more games for ESPN. He was like, yeah, sure So I guess he's not fired after all So that's kind of cool. That's kind of been fired. I agree. That's kind of the the bar still sports way Which is if you just if you get fired just keep showing up and then eventually you can you can just continue to work for the company By the part of my take book. Yeah, we hate you talk about it. Yeah, yeah Hey, it's just kept showing up. My other was thanks original resume in the part of my book out on august 18. Yep, my other who's back in the week is Kendrick Perkins big perk Back on TV doing his analyst thing. He's a really sharp guy. Oh, yeah. Very sharp guy. What I've always liked Kendrick Perkins Celtic legend actually definitely perks. So he's a champ the one champion the one thing that you might say about perk is he might have You know some bias where he will openly root for the Celtic sometime He's like shows him a little too much favor. So he dropped his top five What no one says that I say okay, you said it. We said people people may say I'm a person. I'll say it too That was people. Yeah, people are saying But forget what are we saying he dropped that he's a little by oh he's by sure the Celtics Yeah, most people most people so we dropped his top five list in the east. They didn't they whatever what what Who's who's back in this hang it's pft you had cinema yeah, you talked about spider-man on this national sports podcast. We're talking about spider-man last week Say what you're gonna say hang Kendrick Perkins used to talk shit about like Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and then they like didn't invite him to any of the like he's not He's not welcome in the building. Oh, was he wrong? So then he talked shit or he was he was just he wasn't wrong. He was just early He was talking shit. Oh, okay. Was he talking shit memes? Memes what's wrong? It's anything. No sleeping. Okay. Uh he was analyzing. He's analyzing. He's an analyzing. He's a good. He's a good analyst. He's names I very good. Well, did you see the sound that he made last week such Kendrick Perkins sound? I think he almost died on TV. Yeah, I believe I keep going pft We'll play the sound after okay number one in the east 76ers. I think that's probably a fair. Okay, fair team to put it number one There you know, I can't think of any other team in the east that would have a claim to that. Mm-hmm. Number two in the east the nicks Okay, I guess they did play in the finals last year. Yeah. Uh number three in the east The hawks Number four in the east the heat Number five in the east Washington, wizard wow top five top five team in the east and I'm just gonna completely gloss over the fact that he also had the hawks Number three is top five because it's detrimental to my case, um, but yeah, Perkins ball. What can I say? So the cell that's running on there I guess not I'm getting to get Steph Curry people are saying who John Corales although I don't know like I it's it's it's aggregators and in people online like they're all quoting John Corales There's like a real legit journalist that what This is the sound. Sorry. He made this sound. I didn't know that. I didn't know that my bike was the one that's the base that he makes too. This is the sound Austin last year is Jason Tatum was recovering And so all I'm saying is when you're looking at the way that they want to play in seventh year is Jason Tatum was recovering Last year is Jason Tatum was recovering That's that's the the sound that Blake makes when he drinks his water too fast Oh Video game sound You bumped on the head and smash brothers and he had a sneeze and he was probably trying to like eat the sneeze All right, what would you say people the the Online aggregators were quoting like all the the Celtics are trying to get Steph Curry here's what they're offering per John Corales Who's like a legit reporter? So when I see that I'm like oh this might be real His report was basically like the Celtics could Have pieces and here's what they could offer it wasn't like a report like this was a negotiation that's actively happening They're just like he's they're probably calling the warriors And if they are calling the warriors here's what they might offer But it's not as legit as the report as I hoped when I saw like got it the crap it's more like a Wishing yeah, yeah in theory this could happen, right? Okay, right Okay, my whose back is weird baseball injuries because Harrison Bader is out for the year Uh, I think this was finally reported on Friday. He got drunk on his scooter in San Francisco Hit a fire truck and then the fire truck ran over his foot Which had already been injured Yeah, he's out for the year now and I read that he had like he's got a long history of having scooter accidents Like going back to college. This was one of the red flags on that's very funny on his prospecting is like You might not want to let him ride scooters. Yeah sucks at it. Hey, it's good to come out He had to admit he was drunk like how do you how do you get that information? People saw him people saw him out like doing a bar crawl basically on a scooter The fact that he hit the fire truck and then the fire truck ran over him is just I got happy he just stopped that he hit a fire truck and heard his foot. I'd be like oh all right, you know That happened the fire truck then ran over Did the fire truck go in like reverse? I don't know. I don't get how Because if you hit the back of it Maybe it was already going in reverse, but then I was thinking don't The don't those big trucks when they go in reverse don't think make like a big like the loud like yeah They've got side big so beeping. Yeah, maybe hit the side of it that that but it says he hit the back I don't know, but it's very funny. I need to see footage the report is he he went into the back of a fire truck And that fire truck then ran over his injured Which is incredible. Yeah, it's saying that he was drinking at various points during the night before it's good or actually And then also Kevin Durant's back because Did you guys see how he phrased his Quote about the the sixers. It was perfect. It was perfect So LeBron goes to the sixers ring chasing allegations super team allegations You would think that Kevin Durant has every right to be like hey, it's bullshit Because they said this about me and now they're not saying about LeBron But then the reaction would be all Kevin Durant your pussy like you know you You went to the team to beat you everything. So he phrased this perfectly He said when asked about LeBron James go to the 76ers. He says the last time they put three 20 point scores on a team They said it was unfair Which was the Warriors team I was on They've got four 25 point scores on this team. So hell yeah, I think they're going to be a contender It's a perfect way to end it to give you like it wasn't a diss it was a compliment But yeah, he probably has a right to be a little upset I think it's different now Wow Because the Warriors are just the sixers haven't won in 40 years. I mean you guys have a super two the Warriors just beat him You guys have a super two see you just did the thing that I would said the people would do But the Warriors had just won. Yeah super team the Warriors had just won super team. They had won without them and then they added him So that the sixers have one shit Not the awesome log in super team. Yeah, you're you're saying that between June Brown Well, Prawn you guys are gonna be so sick when they win. Oh Yeah warrior He's going to be the best face they're not going to win. There's a lot there's a long way to go before that happens Yeah, it's true I mean birthday having number one Super team It's crazy max that you wouldn't say you're saying that Dodgers have won the world series But you won't say the six years like they're the same team so true that's baseball is completely the same team baseball You won't even do change ever once the past two years it's six years. I haven't won anything yeah LeBron and jill brough. All right, Zach finish shot out Hank My who's back the week this week's gonna be JJ watt because JJ watt made his kid development debut He went burning up see drops new kids. Oh, yeah, took them two years, which that's a commendable feat But two years and somehow lines don't exactly line up boys Yeah, yeah, you got to think though like they he designed them for soccer players that aren't don't have the shoulders Look, look, there's a guy right there looks like a pretty standard one. I'll start helping out. Yeah, I'll say this I think it's a fashion choice. It's a nice cream terrible choice About the jersey is nice. Yeah, the cream. It's a good cream. It's got a connect You know what I bet if they wanted to they could go back and fix that yeah, probably probably wouldn't cost a lot Just a full remake Yeah, they got a connect them They got a connect them. I thought you got a connect week one. They're very attractive jerseys except you got a connect They're great jerseys other than that. Got good jerseys or he just hot dude Both fair fair both got said what'd you do for the other seven hundred twenty nine days twenty three hours and forty minutes? Oh, that's not nice. Oh designer the kit Did you guys see by the way the one last who's back the cow woulding him I I've been nervous if I were a Michigan Fed You see his quote he said I just think a rivalry can be intense and emotional without the hatred factor I don't think there's any place for that personally Dude, yeah, good luck. You got a fucking hate Ohio State. You don't look Ryan Day hates Michigan. He hates them That's a crazy quote you can't you got to have the hatred. Yeah, that's too nice. That's too nice for the rivalry You got to have the hatred Okay, um, let's get to our interviews We've got Dan landing Matt rule and then we're gonna do our Mount Rushmore on the other side of both coaches Dan Landings brought to by our good friends of her Jose Cuervo devil's reserve Cuervo it's the best Cuervo devil's reserved it's pineapple hell opinion fused a kilo like a spicy Morgan a bottle smooth Delicious devil's reserve. It's the perfect drink for when mischief is on the menu and it's time to listen to the little devil on your shoulder Pour around his shots get ready to raise a little hell. It's available in multiple sizes. You got 50 milliliters shooters Perfect to bring to your party or your tailgate good your local liquor store or go to Cuervo dot com Purchase your own bottle of devil's reserve and raise a little hell. Please drink responsibly and now here's Dan landing Okay, we now welcome on a very very special guest. It is Oregon head coach Dan landing Coach good to finally have you on. I know we only have you for a few minutes because it's big 10 media day And you're getting pulled in a million directions But we've wanted to have you on for a long time. So it's good to finally see you. I'll start with an easy one Championship or bus this year Yeah, just easy question. Yeah, no easy. Uh One take care of business, right? What's in front of us? We'll see what it's no I wouldn't say that I would say be the best version of us. Okay, do you feel like that's where I'm sitting right now? I think yes, I listen, you're fantastic head coach. It's not it's different than a hot seat We've had coaches sitting here and we've blatantly said hey, you're on the hot seat. You're not on the hot seat You're far from the hot seat, but it feels like this year. You guys have a roster. You got a good team I'm ready to say championship or bust. That's really cool with that. I'm comfortable. Please. Yeah, yeah You're comfortable. I'm comfortable with you saying that. Yeah, you want to be the best the best version of you Is that what you said? That's a little I want to be the best team we can possibly being so there's things we well There's things you can't predict right there's things they're going to happen within a season I think every year you know the ball bounces a certain way a player gets injured things might happen But I do think we have a team that's really capable for sure I actually I so I was listening to an interview that you were doing and and I had a question about it because you you wrote on a Was it a mirror like your goals? Yeah, I always put my goals Okay, and one of your goals was to be the best father on the team best husband on the team Is that an analytical thing you guys break down like yes guys all sit around is like who was a good dad this year? 100% okay. No, that was back when I was a GA at Arizona State it was more of like it is competitive goal for myself because I could feel that that wasn't necessarily the internal focus You know you're competing to get a job at that point right? I'm making 1200 bucks a month Money BT. I'm riding a bike to work. It's like hey. Yeah, don't forget to be a dad Right, right and you also took off you had NFL coach on there and you took it off. Yeah, it's not that's off Not on there anymore. I'm gonna get back on there. No, I don't think so. You know, I'm in a different place in my life I like that. I like I'm a different place in my life. Yeah, I do think that Oregon It could be one of those jobs where you always look for the next thing I think that's something it's larger than football coaches. It's it's everywhere in life But I feel like Oregon could be one of those jobs that if you decide if you commit to Oregon that would be a great place to spend your entire career It's unbelievable. I look back later be like that's I was just an Oregon guy You know, I don't know how much time you guys have got to spend if you spend any time in Eugene I haven't been I really wait some of my fucking room. I love that Yeah, but there's things you don't really I think outside looking in you're like oh the jerseys the helmets the cool the cool the cool The topography of the the land. I mean how the coast I just got got off the coast in Oregon the mountains It's just it's a really special place and then it's a fan base that absolutely loves their team So getting to spend time there see the investment they have it makes it special Do you ever get in the zone when you're giving a pregame speech because I don't know if you know this But your pregame speeches go viral pretty much every year. I don't know how someone keeps you know taping those I you got to you got to find the leak in your locker room because they just go out there every year But you you do motivate better than I think a lot of guys out there and I watch him I'm like fuck this guy's awesome So do you get in a zone where you're like oh, I feel it now. I'm in a zone Specifically for this speech. Yeah, I think you're just trying to do your job in the moment and I think motivation's overrated You've probably heard me say it like these guys got to go out and play the game But ultimately as a coach you're sitting there saying okay, what can I say in this moment? It's gonna allow these guys to perform there's been a couple games that I thought I gave really good pregame speeches It didn't work. So it that's not what it's about. Yeah, but it's it's certainly fun to say okay I'm gonna do the best I can to get these guys ready to go play do you ever watch back your own Tape and get motivated by yourself. No, I would do that all the time really. Yeah, I'd be like look You awesome. I looked do you go back and watch your podcast? No, actually don't Yeah, fuck also you're you got me there. Yeah, I hate this out of my own But if I were you I mean you're also very creative with some of the ways that you choose to motivate your player It's like I remember I don't know how you came up with this one But you decide to just smash a Washington helmet with a baseball bat. Mm-hmm. That's really creative Great in the second half of games we'd struggle and I called coach Balotti who was you know, Hall of Fame coach at It'll work in and I was like hey, you got any ideas to come out of the second half and I feel like we're making the corrections We didn't make you so Dan sometimes I would just you know smash it That's where it started, you know, you just dig a little deeper and try to find something and we've been I didn't actually hit the helmet You know, I our strength coach Wilson love did it with a big sledgehammer. Yeah, but now that helmet's sitting at the house turned out to be good Yeah, you smash work. You smash it when it works pretty good. What was it like at Georgia? Well like who was the one that was Good cop and who was the one that was bad cop like between between you and Kirby. Oh, man Ever because he's a pretty game speech guy too. Oh, yeah, but he's always he's always bad cop Everybody else is good cop around coach smart. No, he's honestly he has an unbelievable temper man I always felt like whenever things were rough and it wasn't going smooth You know, you felt you know the calm in the storm a lot of time especially in front of the players right? Not necessarily always and when you thought you might be doing really well It was you know, it was chaos. It was it was bad cop. So I think he does he understands people he can really ride high and low And does a good job playing off of it Yeah, we can do like real quick because we don't have that much time But I am fascinated to hear about the the first job that you got and and how you did that drive across the country Yeah, how long is it was it you were going around 13 hours with Todd Graham right at pit. Yeah, yeah, so I was a high school coach at Parkhill South Was kind of waiting for an opportunity. I ended up meeting with Keith Patterson when I first got the pit Nobody was there. I was waiting in a lobby and Eric Thatcher's the first guy met He's actually a scout now for the 49ers and he's a day the coaches are gone. So I stayed the night Met within the next day. They said hey, we got a job for you for 800 bucks a month My wife was pregnant at the time. We had a one-year-old didn't tell him I had a house had a job So it you know, it didn't make a lot of sense But it made a lot it's made a lot of sense So when you when you decide again the car and drive you didn't know if coach was gonna be it was unannounced Yeah, so I'd gotten a call around Christmas saying hey, we might have a job for you We'll call you after signing day and they I didn't get a phone call and this is the closest I'd ever been to get in a division one job Yeah, so I said, well, I guess I guess I got to just drive there. I'm gonna show up So I went and did I taught elementary P so I did elementary P that day I did after school weights Then I drove through the night and drank a lot of Mountain Dew and listen some crazy music and that's all changed into a suit and the gas station Before I got there. Do you remember what you were listening to on the way? That's a big fact a little bit Yeah, a little bit of anything and everything I don't you know I it feels like in 2011 where you still listening to burnt CDs is that still then or that might have been probably right at the tail On it depends how well the car was yeah Because I feel I feel like I didn't have maybe I did have it up my first iPhone. Yeah, it's hard to say. Yeah, it's all kind of a blur Yeah, I remember the mountain I remember you know when you're really tired driving in the you roll the window down. Yeah, like it's stuff a little bit because I drove through the night. It was one of those moments, but yeah, I don't really remember the music. I remember some of the phone conversations on the way. Yeah, people telling you like what are you doing around? Yeah, like it's an awesome story and it's a incredible rise that you've had. Was there another moment after Pitt? Because I think you went what Pitt then ASU and Sam Hute like all over the place. Was there another moment where you're like is this gonna work out like am I especially with kids like I start to wonder after a while? Yeah, because we went we went Pitt Arizona State Sam Houston State and then I have one more year at the GA and this is probably one of the best decisions I ever made, but I had to go interview I interviewed it at Alabama to be a GA there is the last year this time there was a time frame of like how long you get to be a graduate assistant. And I got the opportunity to GA with Nick Saban on that staff yet Kirby smart Mario crystal ball Mel Tucker Billy may peer Lane Kiff and we went in national championship is probably the most I ever learned in football. You know that year specifically of like okay here's where I got to go and get to and then luckily enough after that was able to join Mike Norvell at Memphis was there two years and then Georgia for four before before coming here. That's awesome. So this off season has got to be pretty interesting for you because you got two new coordinators. Yeah, and then I don't know what the conversations were like behind the scene you had a quarterback that somewhere saying could go top five in the NFL draft this year. And within IEL it's a little bit different now because there's an option they can go back to school still make some money that way you as a as a coach do you have a conversation with him do you say hey here's what we can do for your next year or because I know in the back of your head it's also probably you know pretty important for your guys to go on to the next level. Get paid have success that's good for the program to so what were those conversations like this officer yeah you try to be a sounding board and you try not to be selfish right. But you become so close to these players that you wanted to make the best position for them. There's guys that come into my office and you know can see this past year I'm like can you got to go to the NFL you're going to be a first round pick. It's a little different a quarterback so that conversation was a little different for Dante just because of experience of quarterbacks that leave early and what that looks like but it was really just a great conversation is like whatever you decide. I want to be a part of it and be there for you and then yeah of course deep down you're like I hope this I get a chance to coach this guy one more time because it could be special. Yeah and you're your coordinators how do you so you promote it from within right. We're real Stein guys but we are well he just he basically was like where you will Stein UTSA guy. No so it's literally like a month ago we started yeah we hosted the Kentucky sports radio once a year for a friend Matt Jones and we haven't called in he's like hey I've been a listener since like day one and we're like well if you like us we like you so that's it. That's all so yeah we'll stop. He could suck as a coach and we'll be like no that guy's awesome. We love that then you'll hack it for 14 weeks. Yeah right because he's still likes to show. No the thing you have to just came on the show there's a different like in the show is Lifetime. Okay coming on the show you get like a year. You get like a comedy of errors on the football field before we start to call you out. So yeah you've got at least a year. I've heard you guys say some nice things. Yeah I've heard you say some other things but you guys have been pretty good. I love having you guys straight yeah right yeah be a fun seat to sit in. All right so shooting is straight what what were you on after the Penn State game. Great question. I like sin. I really don't talk about it though so so here we are you broke me down invulnerable. Okay but no I stick in my pocket and I ran out and so our guy got me some more and I have more but honestly it's just juice man. It was awesome yeah it was just juice but it's you know it's funny when your son has to be like that everybody at school says. You're on drugs yeah no I just had to use man. I was finding a part of that environment was wild. Yeah like we we joked about it but like at the end of the day I would much rather have that. Then like a coach have a massive massive win and then come off and be like yeah we didn't play well like we're just trying to get to next week. It's like that those you got to celebrate those moments. There was a moment in that game and I know that Penn State season didn't turn out the way that they held him. You killed James Frank well we didn't you know you didn't work out after that but in that game there was a moment that game where I said hey if we if we win this game or lose this game. I'm really proud of our play like they put everything they had and I felt like coaches did to like I was exhausted after that game. Yeah and I didn't play a snap yeah so it was just one of those games where you felt like you gave it all and it was exciting to be a part of it. Yeah so I like I like the human emotion life man. Yeah I like that you had that type of enthusiasm it was fun to watch. There was a I don't know if you can take all the credit for winning that game because I think our guys might have had a little hand of that too. Our guy Max give a pump up speech to the crowd. I heard he recorded a video. He did he let that we are chant that day and it was so bad that Penn State football was like. Yeah so I can't work here anymore. It's over. Yeah it was that bad. Thanks Max I appreciate it. It's pretty terrible stuff. Is there a couple of other games this year? Yeah you'll get them we'll get them to any game you want. Is there a part of you that now this is a loser question and I apologize in advance. But is there any part of you that's like hey last two years didn't go well but we did lose the national champion. So like we know we're like we're we're getting to these games where it's like we're on this stage. We just got to finish these games. You lost in the air you lost the Michigan it's like you're there. Erna or Ohio State Ohio State. I forgot I was Michigan Ohio State didn't you know big tent just wins so many titles now it's like. I you lose track you know I mean as a as a conference we just keep winning. But are you is there any part of you that is like we're we're there we're we just got to fucking get one over. Well I think a part of you recognize is what we've been able to accomplish last few years is certainly special. We've had a really good team the last few years but the competitor in you wants to go take care of business. And there's only one team that gets to be happy at the end of the year it hasn't been us yet so. Yeah that motivates you 100%. I guess thinking now to the Indiana game that game was over so fucking fast. Yeah turnovers start off rough you know big six it was not. That wasn't a phone one to be a part of but I know a lot of people would probably switch places with us and love to be at that game. Yeah all right we know we know you got to run a second on me. I went to Jamie on glad that we lost you. I don't want to be part of that game. Good second half great second half great thank you. I appreciate that incredible second half. Yeah. Second half of the year I've been telling people after that game was over everyone was like oh that's garbage time shit. And I was like actually no you did not want Jamie to score on that final. Actually both of our teams kind of piece up organ because yeah the badger scored a touchdown against you and that was that we didn't score touchdowns last year. No so yeah. What are you going to do this year? What have you decided? We're going to try to score touchdowns. Yeah we're we're trying to slowly you got to you know as a coach you can't just do it overload the guys right away. So maybe like there will do an install of the touchdown place at some point. All right Zach. Robat question. RHOP ack.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q's just pull those hoodies jogger shorts. Robac.com. Go ahead Zach. We're doing a coach. I did a quick question for you. Whether it's the kind of freshman dinners at the house or taking the entire team to the beach. I was curious if you can maybe speak to the importance of like building that relationship with the team. Not just on the field but also off the field that it seems that you do so well. Yeah I think everybody in right now in college football is trying to act like the only thing that matters is transaction. I think still it's transformation you know when it comes to relationships with your players. We've been really lucky. The last few years that we have a lot of starters in the transfer portal. You know I think we're going into year five now and we've been able to keep the good players on our team. And I think a lot of it goes to the relationship that exists outside of that. And then just you know football is huge right but you know the things that I've experienced in my for my family. You know moments in life make you recognize that football is a piece of the puzzle. It's not the only piece of the puzzle. So for me I want our players to always recognize that and get to enjoy it. Maybe we don't smell the rose as much right. That's not we're not sitting there and joining the journey. But you got to enjoy get the who you get to do the journey with and we want to create those moments form. Oh by the way forgot to mention your tattoos are awesome. Yeah. Yeah think about getting some more. Yes. What do you think about that? Got some that I'll show you guys once for a while. You kind of like you you're a shocking tattoo guy where it's like well no it's like you see a coach they always have you know long sleeves on. Yeah so like when I saw it I was like holy shit. Those are some tasks like KD Kevin direct. Yeah he's got like he takes a jersey off just. Tatted up. You said barbed wire. Barbed wire to get that go long way. I think we're putting back travel. Travel. Yeah that would be cool. All right that would be cool. So this is how you guys beat Penn State. Okay. This was. Oh I think I saw this. Yeah he saw it. It's an axe. You have to listen. I want to warn you. You give some pretty inspiring speeches. Not this good. We're going to want to run directly to that wall afterwards. All right here we go. Max. Max shut up. Shut up Max. Max shut up. We're doing an interview. Oh so it didn't go live. No it did. For the locker room. What's up Pappy Valley. It's Hank and Max here from part of my take. Today's the day. Today's the day that we once again remind America who has the best stadium atmosphere in college football. So we're going to need everyone to get loud. We're going to need everyone to get wild. We're going to need everyone to get on rule. All right now let me hear it from all 106,000 of you in the seats. We are. We are. We are. Oh no. We are. So good man. It's something that I want to give you all the time. How was it? How was it? How was it? How was it? How was it? How was it? They never played it. environment. That's part of what makes the big. It was awesome. It was great. Yeah. I was getting to play in that in that game. It was a lot of fun. Last last question. Is there one Jersey combo that you're like we can't lose in these like we know? I haven't thought no. You got to think about that. Yeah, yeah, you have to wear it because you guys have no no, but like the big game if I knew that and thought about that. Yeah, the big game like these are the special like only - Almost like Batman or like a commemorative one to fill in Bill Bauerman's relationship last year against Oregon State that that one certainly meant a lot. We've done some cancer awareness ones that I'm a big fan of. - Yeah. - Obviously I'm rocking Ollie's shoes right now. Ollie made these shoes at Dorn Becker Hospital so that the money made off of these shoes go back to the children's hospitals. - That's awesome. - Scott wants to be a cook, so you see it's got like the spatula. - Oh that's sick, it's got like recipe food on the side. So how many pairs of shoes do you have? - More than I ever in my life. - What size are you? - 13. - Shit. - What are you? - The 12. - I would have been hitting you up for some shoes. - Yeah, what a work. - I got the ZO New Balance. - Yeah, I got the Grateful Dead ones. That was actually awesome for those. - I'm a big dead head. It was actually unfair. You guys played that game against my alma mater in Wisconsin, so that was fun. - Yeah, that's one of my favorite gear. And I honestly, I mean, I like the dead, but not I think you're a bigger dead head. - Well, I mean, you are a drug guy. We saw you have to pass that. - No, no, no. - Is that what that means? - No, no. - So are you, oh. - No, just, we don't do drugs. - Is there one, is there one uniform combo where you guys can't run the football? 'Cause I do see some organ football uniforms. I'm like, a little candy ass. - Yeah, I don't like it. - But they're not going to be able to run the football. - If you see that come out. - I'll let you know. - Let me know. - Yeah, no, there are some candy ass. - Let me know. - When you see it, I need a message. - You're all fast, but there's a fine line. - Well, what if some fast guys hold in the football? - Yeah, but there's a, there's a, there's one where you get pushed around. - Yeah. - So you're thinking maybe alternate uniform, big guys wear one uni. - Love it. - Fast guys wear a fast one. - Now we're talking. - Love it. - Now we're talking. - All right, you do actually have to go. We've gone as long as possible. Thank you so much, coach. (upbeat music) - Dan landing was brought to you by SimplySafe. In the US, there's a break in every 26 seconds. That means somewhere right now, an intruder is getting closer. The problem is most security systems only alert you after break-ins already started. And that's too late. 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The tides turning, are we feeling like this is the year that everything kind of takes that big step forward, you've been looking for? - I think so. You know, we spent three years, you know, we won, I think we won five games our first year in the conference. The six games, the second year won the ball game, seven games last year. And, you know, this is the first group of guys I've had for four years. You know, college football has changed. They're not all those guys. But I brought two guys here to meet me today who've been there since before I got there. And so I think they kind of know what to expect. Like they know what to be tensed about. They know the teams we're playing. We have a great schedule, a tough schedule, but a chance for us to show what we could do. So I'll be honest with you, I'm excited about this group. - So, 'cause you are incredible at the turnaround. Like the temple was one of the best jobs that anyone's ever done in terms of turning a team around. Baylor, same thing. Do you see some of the things that you started to see a temple in Baylor with Nebraska, where you're like, okay, these are the signs that I know things are going in the right direction? - Yeah, you know, I probably get, sometimes I get a little too much credit for what happened there, like, you know, you went in football with good players and good coaches, right? And so, it took us a couple of years at each of those two places. Like my first year at Baylor, we were one in 11. And there was no portal back then. Like those kids, those are the same kids that went 11 and one in the regular season, two years later. But it was just, you know, all pro players, like Jalen Petri and Torrell Bernard, those guys just growing up. And so I feel that way. I think we went into last year and everyone was like, you're three, you're three. Coach Rule does it in year three. And we were off to a pretty, six and two. We were kind of still relevant and down the stretch, we just, you know, we didn't play well enough. But I see the guys, you know, bigger, faster, stronger, but more importantly, like, you know, you got to expect a win. Like you can't walk into a fist fight, hoping to win. You better expect a win. And so I've seen some grown men now that are like, all right. We know what we have to do. And, you know, I'd be, I'd be really disappointed if we weren't that type of team that, in the middle of the year, the coach is like, damn, we got to play them this week. - Yeah, yeah. Coach, I'm only going to ask you questions that were asked to you by Will Compton for the linebacker. - What's your philosophy on being a man? - Yeah. - Yeah, manliness. - What is it? - Well, I think the true definition of man, like we try to, throughout the course of our football program, we try to teach guys how to be a man, right? Like, I think it's like sometimes it's simple things, like just being on time and being respectful. - Yeah. - I really think a true man though, when he walks into a place, like the place is better, because he's there, right? Like, you make every place better. You make every person there that's maybe weaker than you or needs help, you make them feel a little safer. Like, you know, you just leave places better than you found them. And so I think to be a man, you have to be a tough, you have to be an alpha, but you also have to be willing to sacrifice for those who need it. So being tough enough to do what's needed and being a savage when you have to, but being caring and loving and taking care of the people that depend on you, I think that's the ultimate. I'm proud of Will for the dad's podcast. You know, I've enjoyed watching that and falling. And I think that's what being a man is, man. Being funny, being tough, having a great time with your friends and then turning around and also being a good dad. - And making sure you podcast about it and tell everyone that you're a good dad. That's a very important piece. - You know, I never thought about it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We should start a podcast called Being a Man, and we just do terrible things and then also just post the one good thing we did. - I think you're talking about the Tate Brothers. That's exactly what they've been up to. I'm done with the Will Compton questions. Those are over now. - Do you think taking notes when, yeah. - We all know how to be a man, but why don't you pretend that we don't? - We can rank burgers, we can do that next, too, if you want. No, I did have a serious question about the jobs that you've had because you go to these different places and I know that like Baylor has a history and what their offenses looked like there. Nebraska, kind of the same way. How much do you have to lean into the DNA of a place and what it has been in the past and the past success that they've had? How much do you try to kind of absorb that and make it your own versus going and saying, like, I know what I do well and what works for me and this is what we're gonna do. - I think that's one of the best questions I'll get asked today. - Best question. - And if not the, this is my first interview of the day. - That's also my thing question. - I wish this ended now because as a coach, you evolve. This would be my 14th year as a head coach. And I remember my first year at Temple I went in and we were terrible on defense. We were pretty good on offense. We had a dynamic in quarterback, PJ Walker. So next year I was like, hey, we're gonna be a spread team. We're gonna score 40. And we were six and six. And I got to end of the year and I worked with Al Golden and we were temple tough. We lined up in the eye formation and we tried to kick your ass. And I was like, well, if it worked for Al and it worked for Steve and I worked for Steve Adaz, you're like, well, how am I doing something different? And so we went back to that and we beat everybody up. And then I got to Baylor and that was probably, hey, this is what I wanna do and I showed up there and I had two second round receivers, Denzel Mims, Taikwan Thornton and I was like, all right. I learned then that each place, you have to win differently at each place with a simple, overall strategy. So our strategy's always been like, play great defense, you have to be able to run the football, make plays in the passing game. And so it might look different. A temple was the eye formation, the Bayloro was a spread offense, but we were going to maintain that strategy with different tactics at each place. I get to Nebraska and Coach Osborne since me down he goes, now listen. There's gonna be 40 to 50 mile an hour wins here when you play here. You don't really believe that or know what that feels like until you get out there and it's 90 degrees my first year against Rutgers. And there are 50 mile an hour wins in your face. You're like, oh, now I know why they ran the option. And honestly, they've outlawed cut blocks. I would run the option right now. I mean, it's the perfect place to do that. - I'm so sick. - If they were, we ran a couple of options plays our first year and you'd come out and the full back would have to block the guy high 'cause he can't block him low. And back of the day, they cut that guy into ball, we'll go for 80 and we'll go for like eight. So, but we have to lean into like, hey, the DNA of Nebraska is to be the most physical team on the field and we haven't always been in. So, you say like, why do I feel good about this year? It's like, you can say it, but it takes work and time to get those guys that are 280 to be 310. To get those guys that are 310 to be 315. And so, but I agree completely with what you're saying. Like, you need to look at that place. How have they been successful? Like Nebraska's won multiple national championships under both coach demanding and coach Osborne. So, I'd be a full, you know, coach Osborne came in and talked to us in June and talked about how they practiced. Like, I'd be a full not to always lean into what they did and how they did it. - Yeah, he's great answer, yeah. - All right, you want to go best question to worst question? - Please. - Remember the time you spit on yourself? What happened there? - Guys, I spit on myself. - No, but it was when you're a bailer, you like really spit on yourself. - So, I get, I probably would be diagnosed with like, severe ADHD and like, probably somewhat severe anxiety. - Okay. - And so, which I think makes a good football coach, right? - Yeah. - 'Cause you're always like, thinking about everything and you're always like, I'm worried about what could go, so, like during the game is man, I get dehydrated, like, I mean, like crazy. And so, I remember I was at 10 point, I would complete do this when I let people were like, tweeting about me like, is he on crack, is he on meth? Like, what's wrong with him? And then, you know, a bailer, I spit on, but I've done a lot of, I mean, you guys can play golf with me. I'll spit on myself every other hole, like, you know, like, but I think it should be celebrated, honestly. Like, I'm just a regular guy, like, these coaches are gonna come in here. They're gonna have $2,000 suits. They knew CrossFit in the mornings, like I'm just an average Joe that gets the coach football. - Well, that's a follow up is I do a blog every year about the NFL coaches picture on media day, or sorry, the the owners meeting. - Yeah, I remember. - I was expecting to come in and get after you. - Those pants, man. I mean, listen, I actually said it this year when I brought up the whole picture. It's like, I think we've gotten too pretty in the NFL. Like, there's a lot of, you know, and we like these guys, but like, Sean McVay and like, you know, Matt LaFort, like, little too pretty. We go back to the days where, you know, coach rule is rolling out. And it's like, that guy's never seen an iron in his life. And he might have slept in a Toyota Corolla last night. - Yeah, but like, that kind of stuff. - But like, don't you want that? - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You and they had like, they had this. - The owners party, it was, so my first two years were COVID, so there's no owners meeting. So my going into my last year, they had the owners meetings. And so, I just started playing music and all the head coaches and GMs and owners are there. Me and my wife, Julie, now Julie's a beautiful woman. She dresses really nicely, but me, regular guy, Matt and Julie, we got on the dance floor start dance. We're the only people out there dancing. People were like, mesmerized, like, tweeting about it. I'm like, yeah, like, it's a party. Like, yeah. And then if the bar stays open 'til two, like, you should stay there 'til two. And so, yeah, like, the picture didn't come off great the next day, but I believe that secretly, there were a lot of guys out there that look like me, that like, they're like, you know what? I kind of respect it. I love that. Did you look in the mirror though before when you saw the pants? You're like, ah, this wouldn't look in the big deal. I didn't look in the mirror this morning. Okay, okay. Yeah. As you go down there, like, hey, we have meetings. So, I'm like, all right, I'm walking down to the meetings. I was, you know, these guys, one super, whatever you just sit in the room with like, you know, Mike Tomlin, I'm like, I'll just let Mike talk and I'll listen to all of a sudden, like, hey, we're about to take a picture. Yeah. And because I'm one of the younger guys, they put me in the front, like, I was just hoping to, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, hey, we're about to take a picture. I'm in the front row since like, elementary school, I gotta get you on that. I thought I'd be in the back next to variable or somebody. Yeah. So when you go outside, there's somebody that arranges you. I was just like, you stand in the front? Just like, you know, like, those guys have a lot more seniority. And they all sit and they're kind of like, I just, they probably knew to like, call dibs on where to stand. Because they've done it before. Yeah. Yeah. They're to use someone had worse, worse attire on than I did. They were in the back. Like, and so I, you know, you, things happen in life you learn. wedge myself in the back or some coaches didn't even go to the picture. Yeah. Um, but then we wouldn't have anything to talk about now, right? So it's like it's just kind of, it's one of my favorite. I mean, yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It's just you look so good. You look comfortable. You look the most comfortable out of anyone. And that is being a regular guy. Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong. That might be my new podcast regular. Regular guy. Yeah. Dude on the bus. And you know, I told Adidas like Adidas has like the best clothing. It's like fits great for our players. And I'm like, you guys need like a dad bod collection. Like, like, yeah, I said, want to go get a quick walk in a little workout in, but, you know, extra material. I don't want to go keto whatever. Just give me like a nice loose fit and drink. You know what they make? Now they make sweatpants that look exactly like blue jeans. So if you look at them from across the room, you think that somebody's wearing denim. And then you put them on. And they're literally just like the same material as as the Heather Gray sweatpants with elastic waist. I love it. We got to start investing in those. I love this. I feel like that's the next iteration of ATHLEASER. Yeah. It's like full suits that are just sweatpants. Yes. Just as much stuff as you can make out of a track suit material. I can tell you this. I'm wearing a suit today. And unless someone dies, I won't have a suit on again until I have to. Yeah. This day next year. This day next year. Yes. Yeah. I was talking to somebody when I was on my way in here. And they work in Nebraska. And they know a little bit about you as a head coach. I was like, what does he not like to talk about? And they told me to ask you about, I guess you're an incrementalist. Maybe the way that you would put it like day to day type stuff. They told me to ask you about big goals. Yeah. Do you have big goals? Oh, absolutely. But I read a quote in a book one time that said goals are easy. Execution is everything. So it's like, I came to Nebraska to win a national championship to win a big 10 title to put. I walk by every day. And there's five national championship trophies as I walked to my office. And so that's my goal. That's why I worked the way I worked. That's where our coaches worked the way they work. But I'm also like, okay, but every team is going to 18 teams in the big 10 are going to walk out the first day and talk about winning the big 10 championship. So like, all right, well, just tell me what we did today. Like it's so I just very much believe in like, hey, that's our goal. And that I state that with our players. Like we're here to get to the CFP and with a national championship. But to do that, we got to do this. We got to do this. And so, you know, I have a young daughter who's 11 and she's like, she's the youngest. She's wild. She's fun. And she mocks my opening press conference still to this day. You know, I said something like it won't it will take it will take time. It will be hard, but it will get done. And it's like, I have to remind myself that sometimes, right? Like you're sitting there and you're like, gosh, you're three and hasn't happened yet. Like, and we've done some good things, right? We had been 10 years since we went to back to back bowl games. And we did that this year. But I want to hoist trophy. Yeah. And so I just try to approach it like this every single day. But like, like you get to a game. You want to win the game. So what do you have to do? You got to win the first play. Like I went to the next game for when they came back from 29 down. I'm a diehard, Nick fan, like coach Brunson's a temple guy. Like I follow those guys. And like we're down by 29 and half. So what do you do? You want to come back and win a game? Well, I guess what? Win the first possession. Yeah. And so just getting our player. So I speak that way for our players, right? Because they have these goals. All right. Well, just just win the first play. And after the first play, whether we want to loss, just win the second play. And it's it's boring. But like it's it's how to play golf. It's how to play football. It's how to kind of be a great dad for will. It's how to be a good man for us. Like it's just kind of is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's well said because you're right. Like I mean, you can make these lofty goals, but the follow through is, you know, it's just doing it every day every day. Yeah. Um, when was last time you did the bowl in the ring? That I was in it. Yeah. Um, was it temple? No, I did it a Baylor. I did it a Baylor. Can you tell me the story about the first time you did it at a temple because it feels like I've read about it. And it was like that was part of the turnaround was like coach rule being like, hey, look, I'm in this. Yeah. And I'm going up against guys twice my size, getting knocked around. This is what we got to do to become physical. So, so previous to that, like when our goal was to head coach, we were trying to turn it around like across the street from us. We had a vacant lot. I mean, this thing had like, you know, needles in it and like hyperdermin needles. It was like a crack that it was awful, right? No, that's, it's pretty now. But, um, and we had great players, but they were young. Mahamba Wilkerson was a first round draft day. Junior Gillette was at all pro. But at the time, they didn't know how to play. And so one day I was like, I forget who we were playing. I put on a jersey and I put on a helmet. And we took the starting defense out there. And I put the 11 guys and I was just the, I was the D line coach at the time. And I hit every single guy, like, you know, just one to all of them in that lot. Like I don't, how I didn't get whatever is amazing. Yeah. And so that story kind of was in the program. And guys would hear about that. And I came back as the head coach. And as we were trying to make that turn, you like, we, we were, it wasn't that we weren't tough. We just didn't know how to be tough yet. They were just young, right? I had great players. I had Hassan Renek with a first round draft day. Deon Dawkins is one of the best left tackles and pro football. But they were growing. And one day I just put the pads on. I was like, let's go. And I think to your point, like, you know, like, what can I? I'm 51 years old. I'm a white dude with great white hair. Like, well, how can I relate to someone who's 18, 19, 20? Well, they probably love their family. And I love my family. They probably love football. I love football. So we do have two things we can always connect on. So putting the pads on was like, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to do this with you guys. I tell our seniors every year, like, hey, achieve this goal. And I'll put the pads on and give you all one last hit on me. But they got to earn it. So I hope Justin Evans, he's out here. He's 315 pounds. I hope he earns that goal. And my wife begs me not to do it. Yeah, I would say that it's probably a point where you're like, hey, I probably should stop doing this. But I just think they have to feel like, hey, you know, what, you know, I'm tough. Yeah. I know you see me like, you know, kind of whatever. But guys, I'm in this with you. Yeah. I think you might miss it too. I think you might miss the contact. Yeah, just don't miss the next day. Yeah. Like when you do it, it's the most exhilarating thing in the world. And then the next day you wake up, you're like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, can we go back to the entire just real quick? How did you decide to become a vest guy? And also the vest that you've worn, are they like standard issue vest? Because they look, I guess, for lack of a better word like smockish, like they look like they're wider than a normal vest might be. I'm just curious, like, do you have somebody that's made those for you? Or how, and how did you go? I just go get, I just tell them to get like a baseball cage jacket for me, right? So like, I wore that at, I wore that at temple all the time. And so my thing is always like, whatever I wear to practice, it's all worth the same thing to practice every day. I try to wear something similar in the game, right? Like, so I wear, I'll go out there and camp, but I'll have either a T-shirt and shorts on or I'll have shorts and a cage jacket every day. So it's hot, you know, you're kind of miserable in it, but it feels like can't. And then I just always worn that through. Now a Baylor kind of went viral my last year there. It didn't have sleeves on it. They gave me a smock and I was like, yeah, what I wear this. And then we started winning and we started winning and winning and then we run defeated. And then I was like, I better keep this on. And then I found out I got to Carolina, they're like, do you want to wear a smock? I was like, I never want to wear a smock again. That was not my, and the last year I wore a college shirt and, but I'll go back to the cage jacket this year. Like, I might be down with a smock, though. Yeah, just just the one with the sleeves off it, like it, I just, you know, it's not, maybe five years ago, but now it's like, I just put a cage jacket on, go rock out. Yeah, okay. How is the Anthony Kalendria who coming from UNLV? He's an electric player. How has it been having him work into the program? And like pretty big shoes to fill, patch from the homes is a really good quarterback. So how's that been? Yeah, I think Anthony's been awesome. You know, the day it's funny, the day that he committed to us, we thought we had a quarterback, it didn't work out and we were kind of scrambling and we were like, who's out there? And we brought three really talented quarterbacks in. And I, it's, you know, I still believe I worked for Guy Steve Adazio, he was with Tim Tibo and he's like, "I don't care how the quarterback is mechanics, I don't care about anything." You just have to find a guy who has it and you can't describe what it is until you see it. But when you see it, you can't. I told our guys, I'm like, "Listen, we'll know within the first five minutes of each guy who the guy is." And I remember Anthony, the way we do it, they pull out, they pull out to the 50-year line of stadium, they get out and there's a highly film playing and then they walk in and all the whole staff's there and he got out and I watched it like his juice when he shook everyone's hands. I watched his juice like when he tapped everyone up and I was like, "That's our guy." And he's played it Virginia's from Florida, he played it Virginia like throwing in Nebraska is going to be way different, right? We're going to play in snow probably, we're going to play in cold weather. And so the spring then, we moved to spring well up to February where it was still cold and he was awesome, like he didn't affect him, didn't bother him. So, you know, if I'm going to be an incrementalist and I'm going to be like, "Hey, every day, process, all that boring stuff that is needed, but like, if I'm going to be that guy, I need another guy on the other side who's like, all right, guys, I got this, like, hey, listen to coach, but like, let's have some swag or about ourselves and like, and let's back it up. And the thing I've seen about Anthony is he's got juice, he's got belief in himself, he's got elite confidence, but he's also going to back it up and he'll be a great, I believe, in to my aim. Yeah. Have you ever had a quarterback that from time of time slipped up and wanted to call you coach Reed? I've never had that. I've never had that. I've never had that. You mentioned Coach Adazio a couple of times. Was he always just on the be a dude? Because that was one of my, I mean, be a dude is a great mantra. I still have that, probably have that on my phone somewhere, like, I'll just dudes be a dude. Yeah. I mean, Coach Adazio, like, he really turned around my career. I worked with Al Gold and I was the OC and Al went to Miami and didn't take me. And Steve came in and Steve was like, listen, my mentor, guy named George Illion had been with his mentor. He's like, I'll give you a job through the end of recruiting and then, you know, you'll have to move on. And so I stayed through the end of recruiting, got to the day after recruiting and was like literally like packing up my stuff. He walked in and he's like, hey, you no longer the OC, but I'll make you the tight ends coach if you want to do it. And I stayed with him. And I had the best year of my life coaching, like his energy, his passion, it's been misinterpreted maybe some other times, but like, this is a guy you would want to go to war with. And you know, two years of the day, I was cleaning out my office, two years later, I was being named as the head coach at Temple. And if Steve doesn't give me that chance, if he doesn't keep me around, and he also kind of reignited a passion in me, like, these guys don't need a CEO. Like, from the outside of my look, they need a guy who's in the trenches with him. That's who Steve was. He was an online coach as the head coach and I think that really shaped me as an early head coach. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of great. So when Al Golden didn't take you, were you like, what the hell's going on? Just business man, like, you know, he needed a, he needed a, he, he, he, he, he went to hire, like an NFL OC, actually, our jetfish, who's now the head coach of watching a great fun of mine. And then I think he had someone else after him, but you know, I was proud. You know, I was the OC at Temple. We turned that place around. We won nine games, we won eight games, but it was kind of, we were a ground and pound physical offense. It wasn't something that was going to excite the fans and he, he went to Miami and took other people. But you know, everything happens for a reason, right? You know, look back at your life and these things you think are the worst they'd ever happen to you. You look back, you're like, thank God for that. Yeah. And so had I gone to Miami, I don't know where I'd be right now had I had Steve not kept me. I don't know where I'd be right now. But that's why I, I attack every day, we're like, I'm pretty grateful to be sitting here today. Yeah. You mentioned Dianne Dawkins earlier. Awesome guy. I'm one of the funniest guys in the NFL. I think like, what was he like in college trying to coach him? Like, was it hard to get him focused and, and to make him be serious for a little bit? Cause he like bouncing all over the place. Yeah. First of all, he's the same exact guy. Yeah. Um, he's probably one of my favorite players I've ever coached. Like, I'll, I'll be sitting there, I'll get a FaceTime at like, one o'clock in the morning, it's the snow on it. I keep changing his contact, but I can't look up snow like, um, but you know, he, so I, so I get the job at Temple and I'm still coaching at the Giants. And he's a nurturer. And someone calls me and says, listen, there's a kid that was going to go to Cincinnati. He just got dropped. And like, this was like a movie like I go over to his house. I'm sitting there with him and his tape wasn't very good, but he's a big physical kid. And I'm sitting there, I'm like, well, you know, trying to make a decision. I don't really know how to be a head coach yet. And I'm like, can you dunk a basketball? He's like, I can dunk a basketball on his, his uncle's there and his uncle's a great dude. And now he's like, he's like, let's go to the park right now. Let's go to the park. He'll dunk a basketball because I'm like, is this guy explosive enough, right? So kind of walk outside. And I'm like, I think that's against NCAA rules of dunk up. I'm like, you know, I get fired before I get started. I was like, you know, don't worry about it. Let me go think about it. And I'll call you. And guys like romantic comedy. I'm walking to my car with Alan Mogridge, who's my online coach at the time. I'm walking to my car and I stop. I'm like, what are you doing? I turned back around, I walked back to him like, almost like we're going to embrace and like, you know, some, you know, some movie. And I'm like, if you're there on Sunday, you have a scholarship. And he came there on Sunday, he ends up being a second round draft pick. And he was so good for me because, you know, I'd be losing my mind, snapping out at someone he go coach, coach, people, skills, man, people, skills, like, he just calmed me down. And, you know, I think, I think if you want to be the coach, you want to be. You have to have a guy like dad that like, aren't intimidated by you and I'm so proud of what he's done. Yeah. He is an overcomer. He's an amazing thing. That's a great story. It is. I love that. The fact that he was, he was willing to dunk. He got far enough. Yeah. Right. He was about to, you knew that he wasn't lying to you. That's right. That's right. You want to drag my ass all the way out here. You were just going to bring his the rim. Yeah. So you know all you needed to know. All right. Well, coach, thank you so much. We have one last question. Zach's going to ask you the rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20% of your first purchase, Q-Zips, Polo's, Hoodie's, Jagger, shorts, rowback dot com promo code take. Ready, Zach? Sir, how are you doing, they coach? Good. That's great to hear. I had a quick question for you. I was wondering how does doing show like a house rules when it comes time to recruit players. You know, it does seem like a unique window into the program. Do you think it's like this come up with the families and with the players and if so, what was the impact? Yeah. So that's really the reason we decided to do it. I was recruiting a kid a year ago and his mom was like, you know, all these coaches keep telling me like, I'm going to help your son become a man, I'm going to help your son do this. She's like, I don't want them to worry about that. That's my job. She's like, but then I started watching at the time some of our behind the scenes videos that we do. We have some of the best content guys in the world, Steven and Trey are like, they just blow my mind with what they can do and they would show like me talking to the team or me, whatever. And she's like, and then I kept hearing the way you were talking, how you were like talking about being a man, about being a good person and how it relates to football and she's like, I get it. I would want my son to play for you. And I realized like, I spend all my time, like I get on YouTube, I watch like Mike McCarthy's opening talk to his team, like, I want that access so I could be a better coach than I should give it. And so this year, I mean, right now our recruiting class, we'll probably have a top 10, top five class. I think part of it is like the parents, the friends, the recruit themselves, like they get a chance to be around us. You know, we did house rules to really, you know, highlight our players, our players every week. You know, we had a different segment with them because I want them to build their own brand and start to do this stuff. So I think it's really, really helped. Yeah. Good questions. Good questions, Zach. And I love the shirt. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, we got a couple of die hardnicks. They were actually memes in Zach. We're both a game five one. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. And it's crazy. Like I got back and everyone's like, what was New York like? I saw there was a fight. I'm like, I grew up in New York City. I took the subway to school my whole life. I'm walking down the street in New York City. I got police officers are hugging like random guys. Like it was the best day ever in that city when we came back and went in that game. So they almost got jumped by some spurs fans though in San Antonio. Yeah. Tough day. A couple of guys were throwing bottles, but you know you better. Yeah. You just want a title. Who cares? Yeah. I like my chances with you two. You guys are like, I love several of them. I feel pretty good about you. They saw memes and they turned their ass. Yeah. There could be potential in this three man. Yeah. There you go. Team up. Well coach, thank you so much. Best of luck this year. And really appreciate it. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Thanks coach. To Mount Rushmore, it's brought to you by our good friends over at Crackin. This episode is brought to you by Crackin, the official crypto trading platform of barstable sports. Real quick, everyone acts like they called Bitcoin early. Sure you did, buddy. Same way you called the Eagles after they won. When markets dip, everyone disappears. Markets go up and suddenly it's a full stat pack. Everybody is Susie Colbert. We're not doing that. If you're going to invest, just use a platform that works no matter what's happening. That's Crackin. Over 13 million people use Crackin globally. 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Going shopping. There's just nothing worse. Close shopping, furnish shopping, any type of shopping. You know, you're just going to be stuck on your phone, sitting in a chair, walking around. Even if you go shopping, and it's for you, that's even bad. That might be worse. It might be worse. It's just shopping because then you get, you have to, you look good in this. You got to try on 7,000 things, you're just going the worst is when you're sitting outside of the Dressing room and it's just oh and it's just back and forth back What do you think of this? What do you think of this? And then it's like oh you should try this on You should try this try this on try this. I know what size I wear. Yeah, it all sucks. Yeah sucks Okay, you guys like that pic? It's a good pic. We had it. Yeah We are going to go with R11, which is court. Mm-hmm. Oh, okay Okay, if your wife or girlfriend's taking a new court, it's it's it's a bad day. Okay. It's not it's not a fun drive Yeah, I'm in a good spot. It's related to crossed up. Yeah Okay Court could pick that seems like was that a Zac everyone hates that I Would hate going to court. That was your you pick sack Yeah, just something like listen is if if if there's ever a worse place for your girl For her wife to take you she takes you to courts. Mm-hmm. You're in a bad spot. Yeah, I'll just come back from that You know, I mean, yeah, yeah, I think she takes you to court There's not even you don't even get like the reconciliation intimacy. Yeah, facts. No, there's no fucking. No, nope Court contract your court can make you horny. Hey folks one thing court fuck. I don't know Okay, okay, um you have two pecs. Well, I was gonna take court first So my number two. I'm gonna go I Do too Get no after him dude. No, who buy us out the window. No, we're mr. Nice. No, listen I'm not worried about what you guys think. I'm worried about the people. Okay, okay, you second guest yourself so hard always Yeah, we're in last place All right, it's it's so there's like I mean every I think we're I think our number two picks out the window Marshmores after the first round Hank looks and he he looks like like he's like I did a different assignment than everyone else But I Whatever that was your one one though Yeah, okay, we're not we're not we're here. We are not we are doing all come on Zach you have to do your one - come on It's so that's a rule Okay, all right I'm gonna go to a work party where you don't know anyone. Yeah, it's a good pick. Yeah, I'm a work party I don't know anyone had it on there, and then Next I'm gonna go to their high school reunion. Mm-hmm. Okay kind of a similar vibe, but I just keep thinking back to that video with a beaven Kate. Mm-hmm. She's getting out of the car. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah Okay, all right the one - one - we can't we're in last We could probably get on the way back. Yeah, do you think about a six hospital? We're gonna go with the doctor Oh, okay, we had it. Yeah, I get tricked and go I'm like a dog in my house I get tricked and go to the doctor my wife would just be like hey You got to go to this address today I'm like what and then I show up in there next thing, you know I'm getting my entire body scanned by someone who I've never met before are you are you saying like going to meet Her like going with her to a doctor eat either or yeah The doctor Hey, we're like or if you're going to the doctor and you're unhealthy and she's sitting there You're like oh shit like I feel even worse now like you can't leave the doctor and be like oh, it's good Like I'm in I'm I'm in great shape. I'm healthy like if they're like yeah, you're overweight and you got to fix some things And she hears that you have no choice but to like do it. I Want to know what your number two was So bad. What are you doing boys? We got a year. Yeah, we are our entire board. I Like I Like 15 or 11 both of those I think are good. What about six? Oh four six three Stop 16 shut up three is good to eleven. No, oh, all right So you want you want to do? 15 what about five? Oh Shut up like five as well shut up. What about do you sell your one one or 17 17? I love what about 18? We can get five twenty 17 we get on the on the on the bottom five twenty 17. What's your one? 13 We five twelve eleven the two five. Okay. Oh, no, you do yours first then I'll do my 17 really good. Which one 17? Yeah, yeah No, no 15 we said 15 or 11. What do you think? Yank you realize you're prolonging this by yelling numbers because now I have all these numbers in my head are we doing 15? Let us just console. No, you can sold the beforehand. We get so many picks. There's three man team with too many pigs Workout class. Yeah, work out any any any work out They bring you to a yoga. Yeah, a Pilates. It's the word a hit Men need to go to the gym to like do it go on the treadmill for like 15 minutes and then sit at a bench and work out every Every you do a set and then you scroll on your phone and then you do another that that's what that's how men go to the gym Yeah, the workout class is is that that's that's for that's for the chicks. You know bar class. Yeah Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not none of it none of it. No none of that and you know you it's good It's gonna be harder than an actual way harder always. Yeah, they'll be like you're gonna like you're gonna get a great work at it I have no doubt that I'll get a great work at it. It's just max is right. There's a difference between like Guy working out at the gym and then a girl going in doing like the little yeah the little calf raises and it's easy for them And then we look like a bunch of stinky it and they make it seem like it's easy because they're like okay We're just gonna do these five exercises like for one minute intervals But then they forget to tell you that there's like 25 one-minute intervals and you don't get a break and you're out of shape And they're all better looking the than you you feel like an asshole. Yeah, you're the only one that smells in the room somehow. Yeah Memes 5 or 17 for an X pick. I like 517 and 20 Did you see that video that Dana posted last week? No, he did went to a workout class and he was sweating on on another girl's treadmill and And the girl went and made a complaint made a complaint to the to the instructor And then Dana went up to her and was like, yo, if you have a problem with me, you can just tell me and I'll move It's so funny. He was sweating on another treadmill. He was on one treadmill That was that was running on the treadmill next to him and she like got up and wiped off his sweat from her treadmill and then went to the instructor and said get this guy away from me. That's hard to do. That's hard to do. All right, Memes. What are you doing here? I like 17 all right Double date with her best friend whose husband you hate the worst Compact just like you just you just gotta make kind of fucking you just know and you're like, hey, this is her best friend So you're gonna have the it's you're always gonna have to do it and it's yeah, you can pick I Love all My wife's friends husband's just for the record. Yes, except that one I actually have a money to water. I actually don't think that I There's one that shut up. There's one. Yeah Everyone has one I'm gonna get so I'm gonna get somebody All right, do the one two no, why what do you what number are you thinking? Two the one to seven. I like seven or eleven. Yeah, Zach, which one was your second pick Which one was the second we now we have to know is that is it one to tell you will get to it honorable mentions I'm so seven this all right. We're gonna go with her parents house. Okay Get lost. Yeah, that's good. It's good pick. Okay. I'm gonna say for my next pick When she asked you to get into a fight for her with somebody What's the name of the virus more? How is it? What's the official title of it? Where's places where's places where's places to go is it is that wrong? Getting into a fight For her for yeah, yeah, like somebody somebody cuts in line. Hey, this guy just cut me in line That's not really a place though the line Where's places to be taken by your wife or girlfriend? Yeah into a fight you brought into a fight with a string has to say into a fight In yeah, yeah, the stranger. Yeah into a fight into a fight with a stranger. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I I'll let that stay there. What do you think I think that's a good pick? I mean, it's up to yeah, you hang it's not a place But you're the one battling. It's not a place You want to throw the flag there. I mean, I don't know how into a word it in a How was it how word it into a way that's the way understanding what's what's the problem? When she in a out into a fight is a line into a fight is a place a fight is an action - It's also a place. - It's not a place. - You got to pick a place. - Like a boxing ring. - In a line. - Takes you to the octagon so you have to fight. - In a line for a movie, in a fight, with a schedule. - I don't understand what's so complicated about that. I think working in a way that defines a place. - I think into a fight is not a place. - Blinds up the perfectly with the Mount Rushmore. - That's not a fight, that's not a place. - It works with a graphic. - That's the state of mind. - It works. No, it doesn't. - It does work. - No, a new fight is not a place. - Fighting in line, maybe. - I think that works perfectly. - Fighting in line. - No, it works perfectly with the graphic. - Into a fight. - And my pick is not. - My pick is not. - My pick is not in a line. My pick is into a fight. - And so into a fight, where is the place? - The fight. - That's not a place. - A fight, is it? - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - Big Cat texted, because we went back and forth with suggestions, Big Cat says let's do worst places to be taken by your wife/girlfriend. - Worst places. - Worst places to be taken into a fight. That works. I don't understand why you guys are pretending to, you guys do this all the time. You pretend to not understand, making discourse impossible. - This is great discourse. - This is excellent discourse. - Physical fight. - Yeah, it's good point. - Physical fight boots on ground, but boots on ground where. - So what's the actual phrasing on the mouth? - Into a fight. - I don't know how much more fight. - I don't know how much more clear I could get. - But into a fight with a stranger. - Into, no, I've said it six times. Into a fight is the pick. - But that's totally different, because that could be into a, people will assume it's into a fight with your wife or your girlfriend. - And that's not what it is. - Into a fight is my pick. - That's, I don't, I disagree. - Why can't I tell you the words that I would like for my pick? - That's not a big place. - Because that's not, and it's also not really what you're saying. 'Cause it's, people are gonna just assume it's, it's just like girlfriend. - That's fine. - Yeah, that you're just fighting with them. - Right. - That's also a great example. - That's also a great, exam, not a place. It's just not a place. - It's just not a place. - You guys are stuck in play. - It's not a place. - Place, place is definitely up for debate. You guys had it in your mind that place had to be, had to be, no, I'm saying the definition of place is absolutely up for debate. You had it in your mind that it meant one thing. I had it in my mind, it could mean some other things. - I, you have to add stranger if you're gonna put this in. I'm fine with having it, but you can't have it just be into a fight because that assumes that's a fight with your wife or girlfriend. - I legitimately can, don't even understand what he's saying. Like you're just choosing, you're just choosing, you're just like, how do you not understand? How dumb are you? - It doesn't make sense to you, but it makes sense to me. So therefore I'm right. - What? - That's your argument. - That into a fight makes sense. I think it makes sense, yes. - It's not a place, though. - The pick is fight club, you have to pick, is it has to be a place? - Oh, I'll take that as the words fight club. - Does it have to be a place? - 'Cause that's a place, fight club is a real place. - That's a fair pick, fight club with a stranger. - But if you pick, if you pick on a double date, a double date isn't a place. The place would be a restaurant. - No, the place would be a movie. The place would be a physical place. - No, but a double date, you're going somewhere, and that's a place that you're going. You know what a double date is. - That's a good point. - You know what a fight is. - But you don't know where it is. What are you talking about? - You don't know where the double date is. That's what I'm saying, it's not every pick has been a specific physical location. - Okay, fine, we'll take a double date in a restaurant. - Great. - Okay. - Now you gotta find another way to phrase this. 'Cause that's not-- - Yeah. (laughing) - I think it do a fight's a good pick. - You have to put in the location of the fight and you're good. - Yeah. - Or who the fight is with, 'cause if it's just into a fight, people are gonna just see that and be like, oh, that's a fight with your wife or your girlfriend. That's not what the pick is. - It's also just not the prompt. You just get into a fight with the significant other is not, she's not bringing you anywhere. You leave, for these picks, you're leaving your home to go somewhere else that your wife or girlfriend is bringing you. Where are you going to this fight? - Fight club. You're in a fight. - But you can do that anywhere. That could literally be at home. That could be like-- - Yeah, a text message. - What does that mean? What does that fucking mean? Yes, you don't even need to be in the same room. It could be a text. - All right, so what's the exact, 'cause I'll, I'll accept if it's in, into a fight-- - You haven't had one of these in a while. - Into a fight on her behalf with a stranger. If you want that to be the pick, that describes your pick. - Yes, that was exactly what I was trying to say from the jump. - Well, no, then you change it to just into a fight. - Into a fight, but yeah, the initial explanation that I gave was-- - I'm fine with it. I don't think it's anything of, I don't think it's close to what we're doing, but I think it's not a good pick that I'm fine with having it. If Hank and-- - Hank, Hank, this is up to you. - What's up to you? - Yeah. - So what are we doing? - Into a fight with a stranger. - On her behalf. - Inline. - Inline. - No, no, no, no, no. - Possibly aligned. So we're-- - In your fight with a stranger. - On her behalf. - That's, that is completely fine because that is the initial explanation that I gave. - Fuck it. - Physical or verbal? - Don't think it matters. - Really, I don't think that that's in the eye of the ball. - That's a really good question. - You're distracting the fact that we've all been in the situation where it's like, oh, you're being asked to take on a fight that's not your fights begin with. Like, gosh shit, now this confrontation has to begin. - Again, that-- - Yeah, that is something that a wife and a girlfriend does that would be like the worst things they do, not worst places they take you. - Okay. - Whatever. - That's a different out rush more. - Whatever. - Hank, are you okay with it? - Yep. - All right, now we can-- - Okay, everyone else. - Everything that my last one is gonna be to get a pedicure. - I was hoping you were gonna say something like a pedicure. - That was gonna what? - No, I was hoping you were gonna say something like a pedicure. - Like-- - No, get a pedicure. Not a foot guy. Don't want people to go all day in a lobsky on you. - I thought you would've been great if you followed up with like, make sure to take out the trash. - Man, that's a bad play, the alley. - Bad play. - All right, pedicure. - Yeah, to get a pedicure. - Okay. You guys ever pick? - Yeah, fuck it. - Yeah. - Our second pick, the abortion clinic. - Oh, no. - Yes, I mean-- - Yeah. - That's a bad trip. - That's a bad trip. - No matter how you look at it, that's a bad place to go. - Yeah, you're not happy, it's not happy times. - No, and it's, yeah, it's just bad. - It's not bad, yeah. - Is this, is this after court? - Who knows? - What's up with things? - Yeah. - Can I mandate that? - What about if she makes you get into a fight with the doctor giving the abortion? - That would be worse. - Yeah. - You don't wanna do that before, that's-- - No, after a procedure. - Definitely not. - Okay, what do we have for our last five? - You wanna do five? - Yeah. - Okay. - Or two? - Two, there's, there's, you get the opposite. - I was like 20. - 20, yeah. It's very similar to that one. - All right, you guys were kind of like dancing around it, but marriage counseling, that's a bad place to have to go to. So, it's a really bad place. Things aren't going well. - Yeah. - You could just be working. You could be working on yourself. - Yeah. - Like preventative, yeah. - Yeah, could be preventative, true. All right, honorable mentions. I feel like there's some hostility still in this room. - Yeah, it's been a pattern this Mount Rush more season. - How so? - Yeah, and it's because I'm on my own. So, I got to fight all the battles at once. Don't have anybody on my team. It's just, you know, it's easy to latch on. - I feel like the problem with what I know is-- - And you started it with Wenshi. - Yeah, into a fight, we don't have to re-litigate it. Into a fight I still think counts as a place. - But I think we, I don't think the lack of imagination to not understand that. - I don't think you're there with Wenshi. I don't think there's any latching on there. I think we all just universally were like, that is not what we're talking about. And also, this Mount Rush for a season, you won Lava Lamp, you got gelato right after ice cream. - Just a bad pick. - But you, but like, I don't think that anyone's been gay. Do you want you? - Well, we gang up, but then you just keep the pick. - Yeah. - Right. - Exactly. - But that wasn't what happened. That wasn't a latching on, we all were like, I think we all were like, what is that pick? I think that was a universal. - It wasn't more, it was less of a, what was that pick in that picture count? - Which has happened before, but yes, Max is right, it usually ends up with me keeping the pick anyways. - Yeah, I mean, what's Mount Rush for a season? - Yes, if we're not gonna yell at each other a little bit. - Okay, honorable mentions. Taylor Swift concert. - Max didn't want to do that 'cause he's just swifty. - Well, there's people that are huge fans. - Yeah. - Friends baby shower. - Yup. - Male strip club. - Do those exist? - Yeah, I think so. - Yeah. Chip and Dale's? There's male strippers, but is there male stripline? - Well, pretty sure. - Yeah. Oh, he just are ballet, but I feel like no one actually does ballet. Yeah, I mean, I would be horrendous. Yeah, Hike we said we're a hike B. If you're the sober driver for her girls night, that's tough. That's a tough place to be. We said brunch with her friends. Yeah, brunch with her friends Farmer's market, but we realize that it's the act of going to the farmer's market because then once you get to the farmer's market It's actually just you're eating food. Yeah, you get like good food, but it is I Had I had on here anything vegan Just anything vegan not a place doesn't really play count is not a place But anything vegan because I just remember one time my wife took me to a farm to table restaurant and it was vegan and I was I've never been so More mad. Yeah, carrot steak. I got I had a carrot steak for dinner, and I remind her of it like once a month She's like, when are you gonna stop reminding me I'm like I can't you I can't take back that trauma I went to one too, and I remember I just ate a bunch of dumplings Didn't have dumplings. I just ate like a fucking rabbit for two hours and was so hungry when I left I had to her adult cheerleading competition Not art not for our queen. No, no, no, that's waiting to pick it. Yeah School fundraisers aren't fun Kids, no, no, but like the school fund raiser when the kids aren't there But the but the point yeah, yeah, I get it, but you could fundraise from home too Yeah, you could do that from home to the mechanics Mechanic yeah, I actually like that pick cars in the shop. You look like an idiot. Yeah, it's just basically your wife or girlfriend's putting you in a Mono-mono situation that you will 100% lose. I feel uncomfortable talking to the mechanic your man Can you talk to him and then you feel like way less of a man? Yeah talking to him. Yeah, that's good one. That's a good one Let's see do we have any others her friends house to help move Yeah, any time you get signed up to move stuff just cuz you're the the male that sucks. Yeah Do you think the Swifties would have voted against Taylor Swift concert? Max is just I feel like Taylor Swift concert you figure out a way to have a good time. Yeah, I guess there would be I do have a chair. They're bangers Definitely bangers do have a chair Also, I just want on the record memes is very little help in this. He just was like dude He's just looking at me and max all time. Yeah, like you guys are fucking losers basically you get tossed around He's such an alpha memes All right, good. Not rush for god little contentious. It's fine. It's August No more come by you guys scoffed at court and didn't marriage counseling Yeah, there's our fourth pick Wait, what's your second pick the dog? I mean marriage counseling is probably happens more than court divorce Honestly, I don't know. Yeah, but I mean rates don't really get to court all the time divorce court would be it. I think a good pick That's what it is, but wife or girlfriend. Yeah, yeah These girlfriends don't take you to the worst court. It's true She's just a court. Yeah, that's true. Yes, we should said we should well, we're fine. Yeah, we said we Yeah, we're we're marriage counseling. Yeah. Okay, uh good show boys Contentious would that be couples counseling. Yeah, it sounds like a fight Courts just a fight in front of a judge. Yeah, sure think about it. Sure. Yeah, at a physical location. Yeah, yeah Fight show up it. Yeah, I really wanted in a line to be on the crap Actually just in line in general any line might have been a good pick Yeah, would have been a good pick to stay to wait in line You're asked to go somewhere that has a long way to wait in line with her Yes, I waited in line to get into a bar this weekend for the first time and I think and like five years. Oh, yeah, that's it. Listen, Diva Max. You have waiting line for nobody Max loves cars that have a lot. He loves line Vegas. Yeah, that's where the Going to bars line sucks. Yeah, it's brutal You should have skipped the line. She said, you know who I am a Max the Lente they're out for fall fit They're actually where there were Fans and there are AWLs inside and when I was in the line he was like skip the line skip the line I'm like I'm not skip skipping this line. You can't be a line and then I went inside and he was like I asked the balancer If you could skip he said no, I was like I wasn't trying not on my behalf Not on my behalf all right out that guy all right Oh shout out by the way the the two AWLs who I went to the national sports card convention on Thursday First of all, what has seen like insane Kyle and Nick put it perfectly It's the only place in the world where the urinals There's no line for the urinals because the stalls are always full Just everyone's got massive diarrhea in place. It's just Exploders is what they called them just it's a convention of exploders. We went to the other one. Which one? What's it called not summer slam? WrestleMania. Oh, yeah. Yeah, also, but I'm but that one was at least people using the urinals I'm saying I went to the bathroom Every urinal was that was was open. All the stalls were full Just dudes just shitting all day because they just stay in the convention center and trade cards and eat tacos That's a bar that's a barsel office. That's true But it was crazy and it was it was very cool and I appreciate everyone who like it was a cool scene But it was chaotic, but there's two I bought a huge stone cold Steve Austin piece and I had like a few things and I was I was doing that thing walking in my car where I'd walk like 10 feet and have to reset it and Then two eight of those like dude, you need some help and I was like yes, please. Thank you So they maybe a cuck move, but one of them helped me carry some stuff So shout out those guys very nice of them. Yes, okay. All right numbers 23 for 76 7 86 16 91 69 eight 76 Uh, two Someone's going to get it today. Yeah, I'm feeling I've seen me have to hear the ones who have not gotten somebody's going to get it today. We're going to get into a fight in law So I'm working oh Would you do meaves? I Pick number four. What'd you do? Oh, 30 30 anyone What's going twice? Oh, what would you get? Oh Memes you need help with this because I've done it again. How many times have I gone this three? The numbers two by the way I do know your burger count buddy. Uh, I already came out in the trust tree buddy We were in the trust tree earlier when I say I'm worried about my first thoughts on that you're not going to do it number two I got it. Uh, is that my third time? I will happily teach Cold. Would you like me to teach for you? I can help you. I got you How many have I got? Oh, it's only my second. Okay, and this machine. Hey, listen So maybe I got to get a third time, but I got it It's it doesn't even matter to get it at this point from the guys like us who've gotten it before Do you guys agree? I agree. I'm getting sweet. I have no problem. Thank you agree. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Zach you agree It was right. I was right that said somebody was going to get it to the Yeah, Zach you agree right? I think anytime you can head feels good. I Forgot when you got it. You almost died That just doesn't talk that We shouldn't talk about that. He almost died. That was that was rough that was rough time in this booth Means, so yeah, number two is the second poll. Yeah, I think it would be much more accomplishing Setting a goal, let's say in the beginning of summer and then completing it by which I will Are you doubting? Should I put you on the list? Yeah, I'm doubting proper saw receipts. You're not good. Yeah. All right. Okay. You're on the you're on the list You just made the list, but you're not doing it Happy birthday to uh, Jay Cutler the bodybuilder Happy birthday to Con Kinepple happy birthday young wiku happy birthday to Todd Gurley Martha Stewart and Tom Brady Also happy birthday to Ryan Lockty and Jake Bobo Jerry Garcia Bobo Bobo and happy birthday to John Riggins and Roger Clemens A lot of birthdays today. I fucking love Bobo happy birthday to Lori lifefoot And Bobo and Bobo mostly both Bobo also happy early birthday Wednesday just getting ahead of it Uh, Bloodman and Rusillo the big two. Oh, yeah, I'm better at this birthday. I think I love you guys 1/2 tbc sdmdc. 1/2 tbc sdmdc. 1/2 tbc sdmdc. 1/2 tbc sdmdc. 1/2 tbc sdmdc. 1/2 tbc sdmdc. 1/2 tbc sdmdc.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The Dodgers acquired pitcher Tarik Skubal via trade, sparking criticism that they are ruining baseball due to their financial and competitive advantages, potentially leading to a lockout and salary cap debate.
  2. The MLB trade deadline is imminent, with other moves like Kevin Gausman to the Cubs and Freddie Peralta to the Rays, while teams like the Phillies and Yankees still need to act.
  3. NFL training camps are underway, with notable stories including Deebo Samuel returning to the 49ers, Kyle Shanahan’s concussion issues, and Tony Romo stepping away from CBS broadcasting, replaced by JJ Watt.
  4. The hosts discuss various topics, including the Dodgers' dominant rotation, potential MLB lockout, and the competitive imbalance favoring big-market teams.
  5. They preview upcoming football events, including the Hall of Fame game and Hard Knocks, and share lighter segments like "Who's Back the Week" with Wembanyama and Carl Ravage.
  6. Interviews with Oregon coach Dan Lanning and Nebraska coach Matt Rule are teased, focusing on Lanning’s coaching journey and motivational tactics.

Summary:

The podcast episode covers a range of sports topics, centering on the Dodgers' blockbuster trade for Tarik Skubal, which the hosts argue epitomizes baseball’s competitive imbalance. They contend that the Dodgers' financial power, deferred money, and prospect depth allow them to dominate, potentially pushing the sport toward a lockout and a salary cap debate. The hosts discuss how other teams, like the Brewers, can’t compete due to their reliance on cost-controlled prospects, and they criticize small-market owners for not spending.

They also touch on other trade deadline moves, including Kevin Gausman to the Cubs and Freddie Peralta to the Rays, while lamenting the Phillies’ inaction. Transitioning to football, they recap NFL training camp stories, such as Deebo Samuel’s return, Kyle Shanahan’s concussion, and Tony Romo’s CBS departure, with JJ Watt stepping in. They preview upcoming events like the Hall of Fame game and Hard Knocks, and engage in lighter segments like "Who's Back the Week," highlighting Wembanyama’s new logo and Carl Ravage’s continued work.

The show also features an interview with Oregon coach Dan Lanning, who discusses his coaching philosophy, early career struggles, and motivational methods, including smashing a Washington helmet. Overall, the episode blends analysis of baseball’s systemic issues with football season excitement and personal anecdotes.

FAQs

It's a nationwide campaign by Stellar Blue Coffee that uses proceeds from their ready-to-drink cans to help fund 1,000 pet adoptions this year.

They come in espresso, cafe mocha, and espresso sweet cream.

Fans are frustrated because the Dodgers can outspend and out-trade other teams, making it seem like they ruin baseball's competitive balance, especially with their deep pockets and strong prospect pool.

It's a major point of contention; owners want a salary cap, while players refuse, though a salary floor might be a negotiating point.

JJ Watt has taken Tony Romo's place for week one, and Romo is currently not calling games.

He is out for the year after getting drunk on a scooter, hitting a fire truck, and having the truck run over his already injured foot.

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