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One Head to Pat, One Ass to Kick: Reset Your Accountability

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One Head to Pat, One Ass to Kick: Reset Your Accountability

This podcast episode, part of a leadership reset workshop, focuses on the essential role of accountability in leadership. It argues that while setting clear standards is important, true leadership begins when those standards are tested—such as when a team member misses a deadline or delivers subpar work. At that moment, a leader must choose to enforce accountability or let standards slide. The hosts emphasize that accountability must be built on a foundation of empowerment, where team members are given clear expectations, proper resources, and support. Leaders are advised to reset standards by first acknowledging their own past shortcomings in a team meeting, then reinforcing the message in individual follow-ups tailored to each person's performance. The discussion contrasts weak accountability cultures, characterized by slow, committee-based decisions and a lack of ownership, with strong cultures that enforce single-point accountability. Ultimately, leaders are encouraged to build "islands of excellence" within their teams by persistently focusing on performance, even if the broader organizational culture is weak, as this is key to sustainable leadership success.

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You reset the standard, you had the conversation, you walked away feeling like a different leader and Then someone missed the mark and you let it slide now if that's you this episode is gonna hit hard This is a little bonus episode day two of our leadership reset workshop and the reason it's here is because so many of you reached out after yesterday's episode asking for more so here it is day three is dropping tomorrow as well But only for a limited time so make sure you are subscribed to the podcast or following us now This episode is all about the moment that actually separates leaders who stall from leaders who progress Accountability how do you turn clarity into execution? How do you stop letting standard slide the second they get tested? If this resonates with you I also really want you to think about joining the next cohort of leadership beyond the theory We've already got over a hundred people signed up and it's gonna be an incredible cohort Head to leadership be on the theory.com to check it out. But for now enjoy day two Welcome to the no bullshit leadership podcast in a world where knowledge has become a commodity This podcast is designed to give you something more Access to the experience of a success for CEO who has already walked the path So join your host Martin Moore who will unlock and bring to life your own leadership experiences and accelerate your journey to leadership excellence Welcome back to day two of the leadership reset So this is our three day workshop designed to help you deliberately raise your leadership standard and lead at the level that your role actually demands Now yesterday was about standards so seeing the leadership drift and owning where you've let things slide that is where the real work begins and Marty next slide it was so exciting to see so many people in the hub Recognizing that they were in drift too and I just think like anything awareness is always the first step So we focused on resetting your tone pace and standard and Marty shared a bunch of really practical reset activities to help you get there But here is the reality You can reset the standard you can communicate it clearly You can even feel really good walking out of that conversation and then someone misses the mark They might miss a deadline. They deliver something below standard. They push back They test whether you really mean it and that is where leadership actually starts Because standards without accountability are just words So today is all about closing that loop This is all about how high performing leaders turn clarity into execution and why accountability is the difference between leaders who Stolen and leaders who progress now. We are so certain about accountability being the key to true leadership performance That we have an entire module of leadership beyond the theory our nine week online program Dedicated to the practical reality of driving real accountability So Marty let's start with why accountability is so important when we're resetting our leadership Yeah, and the reason the reason accountability is so important is because that's the point at which you either Enforce and uphold the tone the pace and the standard that you're trying to set or you choose to let it slide Because of the thousand rationalizations you're going to make in your head So mostly just don't felt because they don't understand what they're trying to achieve because they do It's those hard moments where you get that split second decision Am I going to enforce this standard? Am I going to talk to the person about the gap between what I'm expecting what they're doing or am I just going to let it slide? And this is what you have to master So you're not going to find this in any leadership textbook. This is just about How do I approach these practical situations and Train myself to do the hard thing to make that decision at the time when it matters the most And look Just to go back a bit and tell you a bit of a story right one of the things that drove me to become a CEO Was not the title or the money although that was cool It was about getting above the noise. It was a gap about getting above all of that bullshit that went on above me It was about getting into a place where I could set the tone the pace and the standard for a whole company And I wasn't going to have someone Above me who was acting out of fear or self-interest Telling me to do things a different way because that's just constrains me in how I want to lead So I found it really really important to get to a point where I could have as much impact as I could cope with To be held to account for my performance for better or for worse and to really have a crack at changing a whole business And you know when I had that experience I found it incredibly rewarding Stressful at times. Yes frustrating times for sure, but still absolutely worth it And so a lot of you are going to have bosses who want to follow the path of least resistance and they're going to say to you Hang on a minute Everyone here has to be included. We are all about collaboration And when we make decisions we want everyone to agree on those decisions So you've got to bring everyone along for the journey. Excuse me. Just one minute Sorry, just while I do the bring everyone along for the journey. It's one of the Marty you're okay. No, it's really It's just one of those cliches that really gets up my goat because Not that you shouldn't engage people Not that you shouldn't bring them along and have them understanding why you're trying to get where you're trying to get But it's often used as a platitude that excuses weak leadership And that's a problem So when you're in an environment where they're sending a low bar for performance one of the symptoms of that is the extraordinary focus on collaboration and consensus Over the focus on performance It changes the way you think from thinking about the best solution to a problem Or the best answer to a challenge And a put your focus instead on how to satisfy the people Which should not be your primary objective as a leader So when you're in the low bar environment you've got to recognize that and say I am going to create an island of excellence That's it. It doesn't matter what happens above you or beside you You have control over your own domain So you've got to turn that into an island of excellence And look it's it's hard It's challenging but it's absolutely worth And it can be done As long as you're not too countercultural and we'll talk about this a little bit later As long as you're not too countercultural and going completely off-piece If you can get your boss behind you to at least be neutral then you can do it And when we think about performance and collaboration like collaborations essential don't get me wrong And in our decision making framework in module 6 of LBT We talk about why it's so important to collaborate and to have Consult a consultation and ideas and you know pressure testing of problems So that you get the best outcome But you don't wait around for everyone to get on board It's a fast recipe for disaster You'll find though that the rhetoric sometimes outstrips the reality So if you're CEO saying where are high performing organization We have high performing teams Then you've got to ask yourself do we really Like if we look at a comparator of the company's we're competing against Are we really in that top you know 10% of performers because if we're not We've got an opportunity and we've got some work to do But quite often a company might be performing pretty well just because it's lucky It's got the right product in the market at the right time in the right business cycle and things are just working But that's not going to last forever The only thing that's sustainable is having a strong accountability culture where people perform at their peak So you know the island of excellence principle says That you don't lose your obligation to build a high performing team just because you're in a lower accountability culture It's just harder and you've got to be a shitload more tenacious To get it done properly Marty I want to talk about where leaders get accountability wrong Because the bosses that you don't like I can guarantee that they are doing this to you I am forever hearing about leaders who try to hold their people accountable Before they've empowered them and I just think that's not leadership. That's a stitch-job So a lot of people think that empowerment is just like hiring great people and getting out of their way But it's actually a much more active and deliberate process Accountability and empowerment are two sides of the same coin and I just want to run through like how you actually empower people So you set clear objectives We got to agree on realistic deadlines. You got to resource your people properly No trampling all over their decision rights and you got to support them when they're challenged Then and only then could you hold them to account and if someone isn't empowered and you still demand outcomes That's not accountability. That is cruelty Yeah, absolutely. There's a big difference between supportive stretching to reach a goal and scapegoating And the people who work for you are going to feel that difference straight away So the few things that M's just said about empowerment are critical If you just try and put accountability on people It's not going to work. They're going to duck and weave and try and get out from underneath it If you empower them and make them feel like they have some autonomy and control Which we'll talk about in a little while Then you've got much more likelihood of being able to impose a strong accountability culture over the top of that But the foundations are the same right and we spoke about about this yesterday, people want to know three things. And if you want to hold them accountable, you better be really good at the first two. Extreme clarity over what you're expecting from them. In terms of the shape of the deliverable, the timing of the deliverable, the cost, the resources, you've got to be absolutely crystal clear about what's expected. And this doesn't happen in one conversation. It happens in many conversations over the duration of a task where you're checking in with people, not micro-managing, checking in, verifying that they're on track and inspecting progress. So if you can actually let people know exactly what they need to do, and then you can follow that up with an exact communication about where you are in relation to that. So here's where I think you should be. Here's where you are. Here's what the gap is. Let's talk about that gap and let's work out how to bridge that gap for you. If you're doing that constantly, that is an incredibly supportive process, incredibly supportive. And it makes them feel as though you're on their side. You're not just waiting there to smack them over the back of the head with the wet news paper where they get something wrong. But you know, you're going to get pushback. And if you've gone into a team or an organization as a new leader and you're fresh and you go with the fresh set of eyes, you won't get as much pushback because people are expecting you to want to do something different. So they're more likely to go underground with their resistance. And you'll get all this passive aggressive stuff going on where people are just nodding and smiling. And you know, it's a yes, Marty, yes, Marty, yes, Marty. And the minute you turn around, they go, right? And this happens. Right? And some of you have seen that happen. And so you've got to be a little bit careful about the passive aggressive resistance. But if you're a leader who's been in a role for a while and you've let leadership drift take over and you're in a position now where your team who you know pretty well are coming back to you with responses to the change, you're going to get pushback. Well, hang on, Marty, why is this a problem? It's never been a problem before. Like what's the deal? Like why do we have to change? Or why don't you say this earlier? Like I've been working for you for two years. You've never told me I haven't been hitting the mark. Or the classic is, you know, what don't you trust me anymore? Like what have I done? I thought you trusted me. Now you don't trust me anymore. So you're going to get all flamed. And by the way, there's another hundred questions you'll get like this. It's just the flavor of pushback, right? So you want to change something to lift the bar and raise the standard. And when you try and reset tone, pace and standard, you'll find that a lot of people have to come out of their comfort zone. People don't want to come out of their comfort zone. Like we know this about humans, like we're all the same. So you don't want to leave your comfort zone when you're challenged by something new. And this is why as a leader, you've got to work out how to get your people through it. So the obvious answer to any question about why we're changing and why we're changing now is you take it back onto yourself. Look, I realize I haven't been clear enough about what we should be doing. Or I realize I haven't been leading us well enough to get the performance we need to out of this team. Or I realize that I haven't done a good job in X, Y or Z, right? So so if you start with yourself and you talk about why you've failed the team, but now that you know more than you did three weeks, four months, 10 years ago, you've been able to change the way you approach things for the better. And it's going to be better for the team. It's going to be better for the individuals and it's going to be better for the organization. So that messaging is super important. So there's a two-stage reset approach here in modulator VLBT. We've got a lesson that deals specifically with how to structure a communication like this. So when you want to change something, you start with the team. And when I say the team, I mean your direct reports. You don't have a town hall with a thousand people. You start with your direct reports and you just get them in a room and you say, Hey, look, I realize that we've been leaving a lot of value on the table here for these reasons. It's my fault. You know, I haven't led you as well as I should have, but here are the things that we really need to change if we're going to lift our performance. And so that that process of just talking about, here's what I've realized. Here's what we need to do differently. Here's why we need to do it differently now. And here's the prize at the end of that. Here's what the world looks like when we get through that and we get to the end of this process. Here's why it's going to be better for me, for you, and for the people that you lead. So you start at the team and you sell the team on the change that needs to happen because they need to be on board with you. Yes, you do need to bring your direct report leaders along for the journey. There's no doubt about it. But stage two, which happens almost immediately after this, is that you talk to people about their individual contributions. So I would have a one on one with every one of my direct reports in the few days following a team meeting like that. And I'd say to them, okay, you know, that team meeting we had the other day, yeah, Marty, well, what did you hear? I just asked him, what did you hear? And I get them to play that back to me to make sure that we're on the same page with that messaging. I want to know that they've heard it the same way I've tried to give it to them. And that gives me an opportunity to see how they've interpreted the message, which will have both their listening skills and their filtering brought to the front there. And then it'll give me another opportunity to reinforce and say, well, yep, you're spot on with that. But don't forget this piece here because it's important. And then it's a case of, well, you know, when I said this to the team that applies obviously, but for you, here's what it means for you. And you're really going to need to lift in this area because this I've observed is quite a weakness in how you do things, but it's essential in the way we're going to run this team. Or you might have another individual conversation that says, okay, well, you know, you're hitting the ball out of the park on this already, like you're the exemplar for this process in the team. So I want you to help me to change this team culture because even though you're peer to these other guys, you are first amongst equals when it comes to this particular function we're trying to improve. So I want you to be a leader of change and I want to be able to rely on you and lean on you to help me through with it. So those individual conversations are going to be vastly different depending on the observed performance of the individuals in your direct report slide. And you know, when people need to be held accountable, it's not always pressing the big red button, right? You've got to have graduated consequences that don't involve sacking someone or putting on a performance improvement plan or something else because otherwise you'd have no one working for you. So, you know, what are the things that you can do that show people there are consequences for their choices about performance? Well, you know, losing the right to lead that work or not getting the prime projects or reducing their autonomy and maybe sometimes even putting someone in over the top of them or not getting the development opportunities that will go to other people who are more likely to deliver. Or, you know, ultimately it's going to come down to the performance rating at the end of the year. But performance has to matter in practice. It can't just be a theoretical thing where you talk about it and wax lyrical about what a high performing team you've got and then don't back it up with individual issues. What do you reckon, Em? Yeah, I think I wanted to put this slide in because, you know, some people go, well, am I in a low accountability culture? And if you're not sure if you're in a stronger or weaker accountability culture, this is what it actually looks like. So, in weaker accountability cultures, decisions are made by committee. So, everyone has a say, no one owns the outcome and the power of veto is very much accepted. There's a culture of all care, no responsibilities. So, lots of opinions, but no one is willing to take accountability for the outcome. And you will have glacial decision making pays. So, this looks like endless meetings about what needs to be done with no execution. And if you'd like to do a quick little test here, down the bottom, this is it. When an issue comes up, ask who's accountable for this. And if you don't get a single name immediately, Sarah, Greg, Jack, you know that you have a weak accountability culture. And Marty, this is why one of your most popular muddysons is. One had to pat, one asked to kick. They both belong to the same person. It's so important. That you have this single point accountability. And when people talk to me about the things they learn in LBT and the early modules, it's also valuable. And I say, just wait until you get to module seven. And then wait until you get to module eight. Because in module seven, we talk about accountability. Even if you did nothing else in the first six modules, if you just did this one thing, which was to instill strong single point accountability, every individual knows what they're accountable for. And they go after it and they're held to account for it. It would change the way your team performs by night and day difference. And the feedback I get from leaders who've actually focused on this and done it, they come back to me later in the same way. I would not have believed how much of an impact that had. As soon as you've got this lack of ownership, you know, this all kind of responsibility attitude that I'm spoke about, you're going to have gaps and you're going to have overlaps. And you know, I've seen this so many times in business where I'll say, well, who's accountable for this? And the answer will be, well, you know, Marty, well, I'm accountable for this bit. And Jenny's doing that bit and Greg's doing this piece over here. And I'm not really sure who's bringing it all together, but you know, I'm pretty comfortable about my bit. There's no sense of urgency. There's no ownership. There's no, there's no desperation when things are going wrong. When you a single point accountability in place. What happens is you've got a person who says, "I own this, no one else is going to solve this problem. And if I find a problem, I'm in Marty's office, pronto. Because I need to talk through this and how we're going to solve it." And it just forces people to be adult in the workplace, not to rely on other people or to shirk their responsibilities, but it helps them to perform well. And the interesting serendipity here is that once people accept the accountability and empowerment of their role, they are so much happier. Because they are having impact, and they are achieving difficult things which create self-esteem. And just remember, as a leader, you've got a choice. And the only person that really knows about you making this choice is yourself. But weak leaders lower the standard to meet the performance. Strong leaders raise the performance to meet the standard. Just let that sink in. Are you lowering the standard for individuals so that they can meet the performance? Or are you raising the performance of those people so that they get to the standard you're setting as the minimum? Very, very powerful. And then you've got to think about how you do motivate people. And, you know, does money motivate, probably, to an extent? But Daniel Pink did a bunch of work and reference some academic research, which was widely known as the MIT Incentive Study, to try and work out what drives people and what gives them the motivation to do their job better. And it came down to three things, autonomy, mastery, and purpose. So giving people that ownership, this is what we're talking about with empowerment, autonomy and control. Mastery, when you stretch them, it gives them the ability to get really good at something that they weren't that good at. Now, as they get better and better and better, they get more confidence. People love mastering difficult challenges. And then, of course, there's purpose. And that is really the connection between, you know, what am I doing? Am I just moving a widget from the left hand side and my desk to the right hand side? Or am I making a difference to someone and something? And particularly in larger organisations, you can get this sense of, you know, well, you know, I'm just a very small cog in a really big wheel. And I don't really make that much difference. And that's not a good place to have your people. So what you're constantly trying to do through your line of leadership is to connect the organisation's purpose and strategy to what each individual is doing on a day-to-day basis to make that happen and to show them how they're contributing. So autonomy, mastery, and purpose are the things that drive people to be better. So when we talk about, you know, how to bring all this together, the career link the most leaders mess is that leadership drives culture, culture drives performance. And this is pretty much everything we do at your CA mentor is based on this. The principle that if you can lead better, if you can get more out of people, if you can set the tone, the pace, and the standard to get them to perform in a way that they haven't done before, it becomes part of the culture, the robust challenge and respectful dealing with others, the willingness to take on accountability for the decisions they have to make, the collaboration that's required to get the best outcome, all of these things come from a culture where you've set a really good tone, pace, and standard. You know, that sense of urgency is bred into everyone. The continuous improvement mindset of, you know, better, faster, cheaper. All of that stuff when it's built into people lifts the way they do their work and massively improves team outcomes. And that leads to performance. They're the results that you didn't necessarily expect because you've got the team running so well that it's exceeded your expectations. That's when you get promoted because they can't ignore performance, whether they like you or not, no one can ignore performance. Now, if you can't get this done, you're going to find yourself snookered. You can't get promoted until you can demonstrate that you're ready to move onto something else and your team is not going to collapse behind you. So this concept of making yourself redundant rather than making yourself into spend, into spend is super important. The ceiling that you're going to hit is an arbitrary. It'll be a judgment made by the people above you as to whether or not you've scaled your leadership to the point where you are leading through other people in a way that makes them productive without you having to be there. So much good stuff in there and I definitely recommend people go back and listen to the replay. But before you wrap day two, I want to set up what tomorrow is really about. Today was about accountability, how you turn clarity into execution, how you stop letting standard slide once they're tested, and how you lead performance through your people. But here's what happens next for a lot of leaders. You reset the expectations, you hold people accountable, and then suddenly everything comes back to you. You're making the calls, you're clearing the roadblocks, you're rescuing, you're in every decision, does this sound familiar guys? And while your team might be performing better, you are still stuck. And that's because accountability without the right systems just creates more efficient versions of the same problem. So tomorrow is about lifting your leadership altitude. It's about moving from activity to value, from being busy to being effective. And we're going to show you how strong, successful leaders design their work so that they're not the bottleneck and their teams are forced to step up. Now this is the shift that accelerates careers because the leaders who progress, they aren't the ones who do the most. They're the ones who do the right work at the right level. So tomorrow we'll show you how to reset your systems. So the leadership at the next level actually becomes possible. And a quick reminder, tomorrow's session is an hour because we have a lot to get through. So Marty, a big thank you again for today. We will see you all for the final day of the leadership reset workshop tomorrow. [MUSIC]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Accountability is the critical factor that separates leaders who progress from those who stall, turning clarity into execution.
  2. Leaders must first empower their teams with clear objectives, resources, and support before holding them accountable; accountability without empowerment is ineffective.
  3. To reset standards, leaders should communicate changes by first taking personal responsibility for past leadership drift, then aligning the team and having individual follow-up conversations.
  4. In weak accountability cultures, decisions are slow, made by committee, and lack clear ownership; strong cultures enforce single-point accountability.
  5. Leaders should create "islands of excellence" within their own domains, even in low-accountability environments, by being tenacious and focusing on performance over consensus.

Summary:

This podcast episode, part of a leadership reset workshop, focuses on the essential role of accountability in leadership. It argues that while setting clear standards is important, true leadership begins when those standards are tested—such as when a team member misses a deadline or delivers subpar work. At that moment, a leader must choose to enforce accountability or let standards slide.

The hosts emphasize that accountability must be built on a foundation of empowerment, where team members are given clear expectations, proper resources, and support. Leaders are advised to reset standards by first acknowledging their own past shortcomings in a team meeting, then reinforcing the message in individual follow-ups tailored to each person's performance. The discussion contrasts weak accountability cultures, characterized by slow, committee-based decisions and a lack of ownership, with strong cultures that enforce single-point accountability.

Ultimately, leaders are encouraged to build "islands of excellence" within their teams by persistently focusing on performance, even if the broader organizational culture is weak, as this is key to sustainable leadership success.

FAQs

The key difference is accountability. Leaders who progress enforce standards and turn clarity into execution, while those who stall let standards slide when tested.

Leaders can turn clarity into execution by setting clear expectations, providing ongoing support and check-ins, and consistently holding people accountable for meeting those standards.

Empowerment and accountability are two sides of the same coin. Leaders must first empower people with clear objectives, resources, and support before holding them accountable for outcomes.

Leaders should handle pushback by taking responsibility themselves, explaining why the change is necessary, and framing it as beneficial for the team, individuals, and organization.

Signs include decisions made by committee with no single owner, a culture of 'all care, no responsibility,' and glacial decision-making pace without execution.

The 'island of excellence' principle means creating a high-performing team within your own domain, regardless of a broader low-accountability culture, by being tenacious and focusing on performance.

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