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- Okay, so I get in the Uber this morning,
leaving my hotel,
which by the way,
we are like six miles.
I'm like six miles.
- Did you just start the podcast?
- Yeah.
- Okay, hi.
- Hey, I mean, we've been sitting here.
- Yeah, but in silence.
So that was like very dark. - Well, I had to get this out
'cause I wouldn't forget. - Hi, choo-choo.
- Hi, boo-boo.
- Okay, go ahead.
- Okay.
So I get in my car and my on-demand car.
And now I sound rich.
And he was getting in this car,
driver's in the front.
Nothing.
I have my headphones in and he goes,
"I see you have headphones in."
- Thank you.
- Yup.
And he goes, "Ugh, yeah, it was raining yesterday."
I go, "Okay, I see what we're doing."
Talk the whole way.
It's actually awesome.
I just love the--
- You can press, I'm not interested in chatting right now.
- I have that selected.
- Nice.
- I told you the time,
and this is like the gnarliest story
and I don't wanna mess it up,
but essentially someone was like,
did you see who I was and you didn't wanna talk to me
based on my profile, based on my profile picture?
And I was like, oh, and then I recognized danger
'cause I was already in the car and we were moving.
So I said, oh, no, I must have selected it on accident.
I don't even know how to even do that or undo it.
I would have undone it as soon as I saw your picture,
actually, 'cause you look like my family.
But no, it's automatically selected
that I don't wanna talk,
but then if I see an opportunity for a great conversation,
I'm gonna speak with you.
- Interesting.
- Which is almost every time these days.
- It's just not an option to talk to me.
Yeah, you can be like, hi, and I'm just like, thank you.
I'm doing headphones.
- Yeah, I'm always like, yeah, sorry, I'm-
- You can't give people an option.
Your body language is too open.
- What do you mean?
- You just need to shut down.
- I need to-
- You need to power off.
- How can I, what body language can I do to-
- It's just like, you need to just go inward.
I'm so good at that.
- Like with my-
- You're just too available.
- That, that I know.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, that I know.
That's been, that's like an ongoing thing.
- Yeah, I agree.
- Well, you must have a little bit of that too,
because we both get in situations where it's like,
what led you to think that, to pull up a chair
in a metaphorical way, are you strangers?
- Yeah, maybe a little,
but I think like once someone starts with me,
and I'm not in the mood,
it's like, there's nothing they can do.
I give them nothing.
- You always act like you're the big, bad wolf.
- I don't think it's, I'm the big, bad wolf.
It's just like, I don't want to talk right now.
- But you do, you do stick it out.
And especially with people that don't take hints,
like they will keep going.
- You say that,
but I don't think you're really paying attention.
'Cause that's not the case.
- Is it not the case?
- No.
- I don't think so.
It's not my understanding.
- Maybe you're, maybe you're-
- Maybe you can't see it from outside your body.
Maybe you're not having an out of body like I am.
- 'Cause you're really the only one that says that.
Everyone else is like, you've got to try a little harder.
- Well, yeah.
There's situations where I'm like, yeah,
you gotta put a little bit more into it.
- Which is so fair.
- Because then I'm,
'cause like we'll be in situations
and I'll have to go double mode.
- Yeah, exactly.
- And my battery is running.
- Yeah, people don't like when they have to go double mode.
And that's usually when I get, you have to just try.
I'm like, that's so fair.
- I wish I could think of an,
can you think of an example where you went zero
and I went hero?
- I feel like it's all the time.
- Really?
- Yeah, I do.
I appreciate you thinking otherwise.
- Yeah, 'cause sometimes you're like, I can't fake it.
I'm like, you do fake it though.
Sometimes you don't.
- Yeah, we'll have to,
we'll clock in next time something like that happens.
- We'll have to clock in next time
something like that happens.
- I definitely feel like 'cause I had to be like,
so social these past two weekends,
'cause I was at two weddings.
I was noticing, I was giving zero in a lot of situations.
- Oh no.
- Yeah, and I'm trying to be a lot better about it.
Because I told you something that made me so sad,
was someone who's now my good friend was like,
when I first met you, I really thought you hated me
'cause you were doing zero.
And I was like, that's so heartbreaking to me.
And it's not that I just like,
I don't even know what to do.
It's not like I don't want to talk to you.
It's like, I am, it's just so hard for me
but I need to try harder.
- No one ever in my entire life has said,
when I first met you, I thought you hated me.
And I will walk away from someone and be like,
that's the worst person I've ever met in my life.
And they'll never know.
- Oh yeah.
- 'Cause I was like, you have to come hang out at my house.
You may be spending the night.
- No, that's something I don't like about myself.
And that's my 2026.
All right, we know what, let's start now.
I'm just gonna start trying to be really friendly.
- Yeah, the construct of a map of time, what is it?
The calendar.
- Yeah, that's true.
I might as well start now.
Yeah, starting now, I'm about to just change my personality.
- Yeah, and I'm gonna take a little bit of yours.
- Yeah.
- Because there's no reason I should be giving
my phone number to anyone who asks.
- Right, right.
Yeah, I wish there was a middle ground, I really do.
- I think that there is.
- I wish we could find it, I guess.
- I don't know where it is, yeah.
- I wish we could find it.
- I don't know where it is,
but there's surely a middle ground.
If there's this side of the road
and there's that side of the road.
- Yeah, there's gotta be the middle of the road
where we could lie down.
- Yeah.
- And just hope for the best.
- And maybe a car hits us.
Hey, so we went to Dancing with the Stars last night.
- Yeah, we had a family matter to attend to.
- We did.
Why don't you kick us out?
- I just want, like, it's like,
being an Efron has been the honor of a lifetime.
- Right.
- It's been the honor and privilege of a lifetime.
- Totally.
- And the fact that I made that choice
at nine years old, 10 years old, and said,
"I'm gonna be an Efron for life, a la Lady Efron."
And it's stuck with me
in the most amazingly transformative way.
- Yeah.
- I wish I could go back to my 10-year-old self
creating my AOL account and say, "Thank you."
Thank you and good job.
And you are making the best decision
that anyone's ever made.
- I'm not, like, pro this at all,
but maybe you do need to use that AI tool
that gives you you now with your little baby self
and say, "Hey, little girl, thanks."
- I want to, but I don't wanna get in trouble.
- Yeah, no.
- Or hurt the environment.
- Yeah, I don't, like, there's no reason.
- But I want to.
- There's no reason.
- But please know that I want to.
- There's no reason that, like.
- Please know I'm craving it.
- Just know one redwood can fall
so that I can have this. - Maybe an artist can do that.
- 100% a small, maybe someone on Etsy.
- Yeah.
Which, by the way, I did get an Etsy spell a few months ago
and she did say I would find the love of my life
pretty quickly and maybe,
it's coming, but it hasn't yet.
So, that's just something to think about with Etsy Witches.
It was a personalized, it was a human that I spoke to.
So, it's just something to think about.
Maybe it doesn't work for everyone.
- No, and, mm-mm, no, I wanna say, so.
- Say it.
- Maybe there's opportunities
that you're overlooking.
- You need to see it.
- You need to start reacting to things
in the way that I need you to and want you to.
- Well, no, we wouldn't have a podcast if I was just like--
- We would, okay, when we're off of the podcast.
- Okay, what specific, you have to give a specific.
- Okay, I have been on the receiving end
of some insane behavior from an individual.
- I'm so glad, okay.
- And I explained to Connor I'm receiving insane behavior
from this individual and he said, "You just need to go for it.
And I was like, "Connor, this individual is in psychosis."
And projecting that onto me and my person.
And he said, "You're just not taking the opportunities
"that are being thrown at you."
And I'm just like, "This person's gonna kill me."
And Connor's like, "Just go for it, man."
And it's like, why aren't you just seeing what I'm saying?
And telling me what I want and need to hear
that this person is insane.
and dog poop that's what i'm smelling okay um were those the shoes from last night yeah okay
yeah we so yeah you did um so yeah i don't know how to okay i just think that without getting
into the specifics of the situation yeah i think that um i don't think it's necessarily psychosis
i'm telling you it's confirmed psychosis by who who can find multiple people that know
this person including myself i'm telling you it's psychosis i'm telling you it's been activated
and i'm telling you that it's being projected onto me okay so you didn't ask the etsy which
can you send me someone that's sane that like maybe you do need to be specific about timing
and insanity it's implied oh you can't say that to an etsy which nothing's implied to an etsy
literally telling me to like go for it with someone who's gonna like whack me upside the
head with a shovel it's like why not why not have some fun i just want you to like commiserate with
me sometimes be like oh yeah this is insane meanwhile he's like pushing back like like this
is the hill he's dying on like no i'm not dying on the hill you were dying on it completely hiking
you were dying on it last night i'm completely hiking up and i was showing connor some messages
that i received
that i was like this isn't okay and he was like that's amazing i didn't read it well that then
like yeah well you'd flash it at me which means there i think that there might be some gold in
there maybe something anyways anyways you want to know and just like empathizing page yeah the
thing is like you did step in dog poop didn't you yeah i'll move i'll remove the shoe how's that and
i kept my socks on it's always the vans isn't it they absorb the poop yeah right to leave my vans
outside your house that one time oh yeah i remember that oh you stay there um yeah um these socks by
the way there is no more humbling human experience than going through tsa and they go remove your
shoes and i go please sir you i have no show i'm doing no shows i'm doing no shows i'm doing no
shows i look like a traveling nurse i cannot remove your shoes anymore now you say that but
then every airport is so different now it's like should i take my laptop out and the tsa person goes
no moron leave your laptop what the hell why would you even ask that that is airport by airport and
security station by security station but shoes i think is now like with the real id you keep your
shoes on also we needed we do need to talk about dancing with the stars yeah um instead of no show
okay what an amazing yeah wonderful experience it was dedication week which means that every
performer dedicated their dance to someone special right so our pal dylan dedicated it
to his little sister olivia which was so magical this is my family on the screen she's like the
most precious little girl i've ever seen in my entire life she was such a an angel like literally
this is who they model angels after yeah that young woman she was an angel um i cried at dylan's
i cried at um robert irwin who by the way i i understand he's australian but he is also america's
sweetheart there's no reason he should be 21 years old like that that was a sickening realization
that's unreasonable for for his level of maturity and just like he's almost like almost like saint
ask saint gandhi-esque eloquence and the way he speaks the way he understands and the way he
like i saw he hugged every single contestant can i say something that might be controversial oh
yeah like obviously like no kings except for like if if robert irwin wanted to be the king of the
united states of america yeah i'm not gonna stand in his way who am i to stand in his way that would
be literally
literally like i like there isn't like he is perfection personified in human form which is
what personified means no yeah no no yeah but it's ridiculous just like the way he carries himself
he's an elegant man absolutely he carries himself with such grace
and poise and humility class and class yes he it was it was fabulous and yeah everyone
was crying it was crazy yeah and what so like the way that he trans so he was dancing with his
partner and then so you'll be in my heart by phil collins like no one there's already tears beyond
but we like couldn't see the camera work so we couldn't really see the transition that took place
on the camera did you see how the dance ended up no it was like he was dancing with his partner and
then there was like it like zoomed in and then when it zoomed out it was him and his mom which
like we couldn't really see
that transition oh that's so it was so i see i see i see yeah it was just like oh my god
someone else made me cry oh meredith blake the power of female friendship yeah power of female
friendship really got me yeah that was cool meredith blake and dennis quaid just like watching
with a tear in his eye from the sidelines dennis quaid absolutely just sat right there on the
sidelines yeah i mean everything was everybody was really good um dylan
dylan's pure raw athleticism last night had me i made a noise that i wasn't supposed to make
probably at a dance competition like something you would probably say for like a football
game in a stadium um i made a loud noise but i like it was just it's what came out because of
how impressive he lifted her up and spun around it was just like so i don't understand dance i
was telling like i think i was telling you this or someone last night um
that was the first dance i was like okay yeah that's that was really good that was good dancing
besides like athleticism yeah i also don't understand dance and yet i was moved last night
the thing that i don't get about dance and dancing with the stars is like i don't get why every see i
think it should all be graded on the same scale across the board i think that would be kind of
hard based on like skill level i mean you think andy richter and like alex earl should be graded
in the same way i think that's a good thing i think that's a good thing i think that's a good thing
way well okay if they're going to be competing against each other then i think that it should
be all waltz one week and all cha-cha the next week and all um what's what's the one that a lot
of people did graded on a curve what's he is being great no i know i think that's fair what um
when they're doing this and they're like the way because it's about equity not equality
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should be for each dance and so last night i was kind of losing it because i was like
really into like like someone comes out and does like a let me see what you're saying a jig and
then someone comes out and does contemporary and then we're crying and then we're laughing
and that's nice to break it up but like i guess like if you really were into dancing you'd get
really bored if everyone was doing the same day you're right i just i said it out loud and then
i got there myself yeah yeah so i think that's that's that it's pure entertainment yeah i was
saying last night when you're in this room there's this production happening there is like
400 people working this facility people plugging things in people unplugging things people sweeping
the floor people holding an extension cord and then i was thinking about it it's like you were
really moved by this i was like wow everyone has a purpose in this room and they were moving with
such grease like i don't know how to say it was smooth the gears were the gears were greased
and it was like everyone knew where they're supposed to be and then i was like it's crazy that
everyone's doing this for a one-hour show so that someone is can get home from the office
put on their cozies sit on the couch and be entertained show like that's so fascinating to me
that this is all just for inner so that someone can unwind and watch a little bit of dance
that's really cool entertainment's important for people for the world yeah it is survival it is
anyways anyways that was awesome alex i'm so excited to be here with you today i'm so excited to
be here with you today i'm so excited to be here with you today i'm so excited to be here with you today
i was so impressed with i love that dance um did she dance like before this i don't think so or was
she in
like a cheerleader or something she danced she danced yeah that she totally don't understand
and also meredith from parent trap too like i don't understand how you can have like people
who danced on the same show with as like andy rector like charlie d'amelio last year right i
don't think i was like was she the dancer yeah and like i don't think you can have dance i don't get
that not that i don't think they should be on the show but i also don't get it i think we might be
looking into it further than anyone's ever looked into it i just don't get it like they have to grade
it on a curve if they're gonna have dancers on the show and then completely like people who have
two left feet i didn't know if she was the dancer or the star right and she was the dancer she was
the star she that's what i meant i understood what you meant yeah but she's both the dancer
and the star in this case yeah so i don't really understand i don't either i don't it's again it's
about they need to be grading on the curve i haven't been talking to the mic basically at all
am i picking up okay sorry i'm gonna be more mindful although my mic has gone limp i turned
to connor and asked last night who he would dedicate his dance to and she was like your dad
right and i was like yo yeah my dad and i was like what about you and you said my mom and then
and then i go hmm and we both sat in silence and she goes maybe my cats and i go probably my phone
and then i just had this vision of like connor's phone being like descending from the ceiling like
on these like wires angel wings and then him like doing this like beautiful scrolling movement with
it i receive it it comes down well now you're definitely not talking into the mic oh i receive
it like the mic's over here i receive it it comes down i guess yeah oh that's gonna that's gonna
break that's gonna break and then this is yeah they all ended on like the end of the show and
i'm like in like a fetal position on the floor i'd love to see that with you and your phone
also speaking of my cats i realized this weekend at weddings that they are
they are going to be participants are you going to attach the rings to them or something
um they'll be like at the altar on leashes or huh they'll be like
they're like step ups from the ring bearers
hmm new set i actually just opened new set new set um
the ring bearers so you will attach the rings to them no they're gonna be like the best men
so they'll be sitting there or they will be like a cage ministers
no they'll be in a stroller an enclosed stroller
rob doesn't need an enclosed stroller he'll he'll just be there but j marie will be in
an enclosure um that's that's actually fun i don't think i've
seen a cat in a wedding yeah there in this one this one there will be two
uh you know what i've been to two weddings that have had a lomba llama
could not remember the name of that animal
when in doubt add a b wait speaking of lomba yeah carianne okay what is not anaba anaba i
kept saying anada yeah it's when in doubt how to be yeah so carianne especially this week
save it they i don't think that they should be
it's just like this this week specifically it's like i'm thinking like the whole time i'm like
well obviously they have imagine the shit storm that would brew if someone gave the dance a true
score who i can't even i'm not thinking of a specific person someone goes four after they
just said this is dedicated to some my family member that passed away it's like you would get
that'd be a pr nightmare for a judge
to give that and then i realized this week was kind of like purely a pr week and that like it
was just a sweet moment and it was kind of like a bye week like everyone passed no one eliminated
right what we're saying is that every time one of the judges would like critique the dancers i was
just like that's so mean brooke was like that wasn't necessary it wasn't i just i didn't feel
like it was necessary this but then i'm like maybe i they should get a written summary
i just don't feel like she i mean she got i don't want to hear it when did she get booed by the whole
she got really booed by she got she got booed for topanga i feel like i'm watching the same dance
yeah yeah i booed i booed too we i think he booed she booed we all i understand that yeah i guess
the critique is necessary for improvement but does it have to be done i guess it does i don't
like it though i think the two things can be true i don't like it and maybe it's necessary
but i don't i want to share something that was just like the most unbelievable thing to me there's
a man in the room that tells everybody when to clap oh yeah you didn't care for the guy
did not care for him um i'm gonna pull it up just one clip of him
telling us when to clap it's it's like the most
um
um
um
i've just never seen anything like that's a hype man but he was like
i mean it was just like almost like animatronic i guess that's something that i didn't like but
is necessary yeah they do that at all the like uh late night show tapings and stuff there's always
a hype man what happened to the he was less laugh um personable than some of the other hype men that
i know and love yeah but jimmy kimmel hype man's a really fun fun time is he i think
you like him
i wouldn't know i would not know um oh my gosh i had something else about the wts
yeah i don't know anyways that was really fun that was like a good experience it was
and i loved our seats me too i'm being like genuinely once we figured out how there was a
pretty fairly massive obstruction um pretty much a wall there were
yeah but once you we figured out how to navigate it it was fine well there was no like it was i
thought like see i thought it was going to be a little bit more strict about re standing sitting
leaning i was just leaning over the balcony like it was and that was fine and that honestly that
it was a great seat once we did that totally fine if nothing else someone was like this kind of
thing only happens to you guys but so that you have something to talk about on the podcast and
i'm grateful for that because we literally were
laughing and on site it was on site with that wall it was on site yeah i did there was like a
solid 45 minutes when we like found out we were going where i was like well zach is going to be
there oh yeah because it's they're dancing to rewrite the stars which do you know that song
by the way yeah okay it's so freaking incredible um and i was like oh he's going to be there like
his little sisters in it whatever and i was talking out loud to myself like practicing what i was going
to say for
45 and um he wasn't there which was for the best this that's not what last night was about at all
but i will say it's about big d it was about d um uh mr effron senior was there
which is just like what i can't believe the lineage he's created
and wow i couldn't i couldn't really tear my eyes away
just like what a what an accomplishment what an accomplished man to be able to create something
like that like the effron family legacy thanks well said thank you i agree
it's just an amazing amazing family you're part of it oh that was so sweet and we got to
obviously like hug our
hug our brother last night yeah i i just freaking love that family almost brings me to tears
i see them kind of starting to to form to form we can move on okay i just love them me too like
truly filled with nothing but like just pure unadulterated love for my family and i can't
wait to meet my other brother one day and you will i'm sure it's like right around the corner
um he might even sit here one day with us no but you know who like could sit here
that i was thinking of robert yeah i think robert would i think he would love to come
robert please i if you're watching
sit on her lap connor sit on my lap connor he can sit on the kelly clarkson
he might not want to come if you ask him to sit on your lap okay you don't have to sit on i just
think that like he'll think it's funny you know talking about laps i don't we don't know him yet
i know him well okay i went to royal otis this week royal otis this weekend that was the most
fun concert i've ever been to that's my second time seeing them wow i haven't had like a community
experience in a crowd like that like i i could have kissed everyone in my vicinity on the mouth
that's really sweet it was just like so awesome knew every song was singing
I we were kind of the section that was like jumping around singing knowing every song and
otherwise the crowd was kind of like it was one of those concerts where like you have your arm over
someone's shoulder and you're kind of like swaying and I'm embarrassed thinking back that I did do
that I participated in like the arm over you know like kind of swaying and singing oh there it's
it's okay it's not it's over with it happened but it was like I'm actually like I listened to the
have you ever gone to a concert and then you listen to the music after the concert you're like
genuinely physically depressed of course I'm like I I was post-concert depression needs to be in the
dsm5 I don't know if that's the most updated version but it needs to be in one of in the
most updated version of the dsm it's just I think it's just typical like you go on a vacation and
then you think about if you go to like post no post-concert depression is like a very different
like very acute feeling because it's like you can go on another vacation
but you can't go back to the 1975 at the hollywood bowl in 2023 you're that's right I bought merch
too now I got the merch I put it on the bathroom crop top stomachs out I got an extra large two
stomachs out I wore it belly button out um but it was it was so good oh my gosh and it was also
it was like a fantastic night like weather-wise and it was up on the
river wow on a rooftop open air wow and the next night they played again
rained and they all had to go moved yeah so sad yeah there was big talks of like a big storm on
the east coast and I had a travel alert for my flight yeah and like I was beside myself like
thinking of like not being able to get home but everything was completely fine and untouched
um by the veronicas what's that that song
I feel so untouched and I need you so much yeah that's a great one yeah um yeah the nor'easter
came through yeah almost knocked me clear out blew my legs off did it yeah and it was not even on
sunday it was monday I thought they were just like talk like it was all talk no it was out of nowhere
just like like gust of wind comes by hat gone I'm like you know that that kid in that video that old
video he's like
no I don't know him do you know what I'm talking about
no not even him not even him but yeah no there's one where like the wind's blowing
during this kid's like
yep that's him that's me that was wow during the nor'easter trying to cross the street
that is one of my favorites is it called a nor'easter because it takes place
usually in the northeast I would say so yeah I don't think you have a nor'easter in
in uh
louisiana me trying to think of one state for for a dollar name one state louisiana
for me that's new orleans like in the same way that illinois chicago like those are the two
states that I'm like you're you're just I will call you what your city what your biggest city
is because the storm brings powerful winds that blow from the northeast along the east coast of
north america nice that's awesome oh it's actually northeaster
happy easter he is risen um so do you hear something funny that happened sure
so on sunday I was we were watching football heard of it and yes not footy footy um and I
was leaving because I was gonna go to dinner and I was like all right I'm gonna go to dinner
and hunter was like oh is it
for like a brand thing and I go no it's for survival to eat it's because I'm hungry
that scared me that put the fear of god into me that someone was asking if I was going to go eat
to so that I wouldn't die and if it was a brand thing well where are we going you know how did
we get here where someone's asking you if like my next meal is a brand thing well you said like
when you say I'm going to dinner I think that going out to a restaurant is that what you were
doing I was going out to a restaurant by yourself no with others yes okay yeah I think I would think
the same thing I'm going to dinner what if you tell me I'm going to dinner I would think it was
a brand thing not me nope yeah it's for this brand called living it's for this brand called
life yeah it's something to think about yeah anyways that's that's where my head was at
do you see trisha paytas is going to be in euphoria
I saw trisha paytas is going to be in beetlejuice which is going to be in euphoria um season three
I'll tell you what because I auditioned for it did you actually send in that audition
oh was she going to do that what that yeah are you sure is that role no but like for sure oh
can you I don't think you can say I don't think I can say either but but there was all it also said
for god like it was for a guy part so maybe not no because I got that too
oh I didn't submit it but I got the opportunity to do well there was definitely a male counterpart
if there was also right because it was male specific so I don't know but um I'm
as someone that works in this industry
I do fear when you start putting people in like it it like pulls me out of
when I'm watching a movie or something and then some someone I watch from
tiktok comes in season three might be a wash anyway everyone's 40 yeah this is this is 40
leslie man wow we've never had a better risk what more well-received take than our leslie man take
that she's meryl streep yeah just like she deserves this treatment
this treatment yeah did you just make that up no someone else did oh I should have lied
that's brilliant
yeah yeah I'm back on hinge I saw that how's it going oh well how is it going she had an
perfect resume come across her desk yesterday and she goes I'll look at it later what did you do with
it it was not a perfect resume you could not see his face in four out of the five images because
he was one jumping doing a backflip off a cliff do you two hiking with a beautiful sunset does
that seem like someone for me be honest with yourself I want you to be honest with no I want
you to head towards the middle of the road
that's very mean no no no we got to keep each other accountable this isn't what I mean by just
like commiserate and I'm trying to okay it's it was a perfect resume it was not a perfect six one
good looking dude guess what his name was what connor
he was maybe he was perfect for you but he wasn't perfect for me I'm going this time on hinge I'm
being like intentional like I'm not just like like last time I was just like maybe maybe
maybe and now I'm going to be like more intentional okay thanks because I'm not yeah I'm only going to
go on a date with someone if I'm like actually excited about it instead of just like yeah I'll
try it and then I want to kill myself like in a major severe way that makes sense yeah can we
talk about the person that we just I just your crush that no thank you though for asking let's
just say I am in it's been an ongoing investigation
I've this is the same person I've been speaking about since the first hinge incident and I don't
I can't get more into it just due to needing space but it's so bad thank you and obviously now Connor
is completely involved himself in the investigation he's inserted himself I was there first he yeah he
he was there first Connor's a complete suspect well I didn't connect any dots I did say remember
him and I was like oh he looks so much like your brother yeah that's just because I recognized him
yeah exactly but I didn't connect the dots like I didn't I did not ever say oh wait that's
we're not doing names I didn't say a word the Illuminati has spent decades keeping lemon on top
and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song
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wait for therapy on Thursday thank you I didn't say yes so yesterday I was on my way to Dancing with
the Stars and I obviously didn't read the dress code I was gonna go to Brooks house first then
we're gonna go to the thing together and then I read the dress code it said suit and tie please
wearing a t-shirt so i rerouted to nordstrom i go to nordstrom i'm in i'm in hysterics because i was
like we're gonna i'm gonna be late i'm gonna be late i walk in i i tell this young man at nordstrom
his name is mark he's not he's like my dad's age i go hi sir i have to i need this i need a dress
shirt and i need a tie stat and also i don't know how to tell a tie a tie and he goes guess what i
know someone that does and i go who mark he goes me and like i'm gonna post about him for father's
day yeah i said mark i'll come back i'm gonna come back and see you and he goes you don't have
to i have a list on my phone of people like mark really of just like hometown heroes that i've
just like come across that just means so much to me not the father not the stepfather he's the
father that stepped up at nordstrom and we're not blood related at all and that like that was our
first time meeting but i do feel like
you
drawn to him not in a sexual way in a way of like in another life we were
picking apples in an orchard you know alongside each other um
whoa i just found i was looking in my notes to look for people i love
but there's this really like four paragraph note from 2022 also known as 2022 i know i've
been kind of distant recently in our friendship and i want to give some context around
why that is the reason i decided to take a step back blah blah blah like who could this have gone
to in your notes yeah it's like three it's like four paragraphs well don't read the rest of it
i'm reading it to myself in a strange headspace well that was not to you no no i'm saying don't
don't read don't read it right now who did i take a step back from
okay i want to find the list of people that i care about i know one of them was this
guy that worked at the glasses place oh people i love lou from the glasses place
um the doctor that did my nose the waiter from uh mama pop-up thing in place in florida
um kevin from toyota and ted from the country club i only remember lou but that's so and and
nose but that's so amazing that i i will have this forever last update in 2018 that's special
you can add mark from nordstrom on my behalf please just because i know you would like him
okay and i'll introduce you one day i would love to meet the guy yeah and you should have gotten
his hours that he works um speaking of nose this is what i was going to tell you earlier and you
were like save it for the pod yes and i was like no because it's visual and not interesting yes
but i just saw it on my phone yes um in high school i hated my nose so much that if anyone
was on either side of me ever i would push my nose up so that they didn't see the bump
in it which like it was worse that i was just like touching my nose literally like
pretending i was like a pig like i would like lift my nose up yeah it had to be exhausting
and i found a picture of myself i did not take any pictures in high school because i didn't i hated
being in camera but i found one and i forgot i had a dent
across my nose from how much i would do that that it left like a physical
dent and i cannot believe how bad it was and this is what my nose just looked like
is that not the most insane thing you've ever seen that's physical dent is that not insane
and i just lived i lived with a massive line across my my big fat nose all because of that
isn't that kind of sad it is sad but beautiful gorgeous yeah because i look back at her and i'm
like you will be so fine you'll be on the sidelines cheering on dylan he just a few
more years until dylan leave your keep holding on who know let go of that nose and let god
dylan is on his way
but in another way it will get harder
but in the most amazing way there's a shit storm coming but also some amazing things
don't download hinge
unless
guess who i found on inch the other day who uh my cousin that i was telling you
oh wait that was bonus
your cousin geez like every week you invent a new cousin no it's the same one that we were
talking about in bonus that is so distant that it's fine oh yeah salmon hinge wow um
now we're back to that conversation i don't need to i will know i just it's it's so crazy because
like i don't think i could even if i even if i knew that it was my cousin in any way i don't
think i could sit
i don't think i could sit and i didn't say i sent him a like
no i know i'm just i'm trying to see if i can wrap my head around
sending your cousin a like on hinge yeah i didn't send him a like okay what'd you do with him
send said left oh see you cuz see you thanksgiving what um okay what could have been
keep it in the family i let i i'm trying to remember if i matched my cousin's name
with noah or not your brother got him yeah
i don't know what we did that's that's so weird that hinge doesn't have like a this is obviously
your family feature right damn it's crazy that my most compatible is engaged
oh because your most compatible was your brother exactly yeah wow that takes that's like that
the doctor comes in and it's like oh this is my son how is that possible
because her most compatible is her brother yeah oh that's a thinker i got one of my second cousins on
hinged once too and that was that's where i draw the line yeah that was like oh i don't want it
like i don't that's like embarrassing i don't even want him to know i'm on here
everyone's on there don't be embarrassed to be who you are
i i just keep i like keep coming back to the fact that it's just like so mortifying to like
it feels so embarrassing to be out there in that way and then to send a like is like so horrible
and then to not receive one back it feels like the worst thing in the world even though i know
it's not and i can save this for therapy on thursday if you want this looks like one of
those characters from the summer i turn pretty now the more i look at it what's who's the one
which one conrad conrad this yeah he does look like he's wearing a toupee
back to your thing about how your life it was is going to be okay but it is also going to be worse
in many ways um i had this thought the other day because i was having a day where i was like hmm
this is a bad day can't put my finger on it and then i was just thinking i was having that yesterday
too today because nothing happened right and it's a thinker and days can be thinkers but are they
stinkers
profound no that was amazing yeah
is it now i ask everyone to make this distinction and maybe maybe sit
marinate with it is today a thinker
yes but is it a stinker can it also be yes
totally yeah it can so i don't know you can just we can we can
so was it a thinker yeah it was it was a bad day yeah yeah okay but it turned around before it
ended up being a stinker but it turned around sometimes if you're like okay i've had real
stinkers before like is this one of the and it's like no it's not that bad which actually
helps you because then it's like oh it's simply just a thinker and there's nothing wrong with a
thinker also because if you're if you're having a bad day sometimes you can be like i'm actually
thankful because this is so horrible that like like there's good there's good to come because
anything compared to this is is just going to be better that's true that's the good thing about
rock bottom yeah until something worse happens and then it's like oh wait that was like totally
fine earlier but like sometimes it's a relief when like horrible things happen because it's
like okay another horrible thing probably won't happen for a minute yeah or when stuff's going
really well and you go oh something yeah i'm about to i'm about to get a devastating email yeah yeah
yeah yup um you got posted on like ocd page of like ocd pages like a like a clinical
professional page they posted you i saw that yeah and it i that was the 9-11 my 9-11 story from
like the first episode of the
pod well because for the first time ever no cd well it's ocd awareness month or week or something
and it's like
So who are you making aware of OCD?
Because people with OCD are very aware that they have OCD.
No, I think a lot of people don't know what OCD is still.
I don't think it's extremely clear what OCD is.
Is it a spectrum also?
I mean, it just presents itself in different ways.
But I think like the way that it's been presented in the media and I think the way that like even like mental health professionals understood it in like the early 2000s was just like being crazily organized and clean.
And even like germaphobic.
Is germaphobic a word or is it just germaphobe?
But like now we understand that it's a lot about like thought patterns and obsessive thoughts, which like I was not diagnosed with OCD until much later in life, even though it was very clear.
Like looking back when I was five and thought I did 9-11 and had like severe emetophobia.
Like, oh, that's like a no brainer OCD.
But like no one knew.
So I think that's why they're posting it.
Because it's like.
This OCD looks like this, too.
Yeah.
There was one that I thought was funny.
It was like happy OCD awareness month to the guy I'm convinced lives in the trunk of my car.
Yeah.
And happy.
Because there's like stuff like that where you just like think this.
This thought all the time and then you're just used to this thought and it like lives with you.
And it's like when like something's on like when there's a rubber band on the floor in your kitchen and it's just like, yeah, that's my rubber band that's on the floor in my kitchen.
It's been there for so long.
It's just like a staple part of your life.
Someone was like happy OCD.
Happy OCD awareness month to the invisible string that trails behind me.
Like every time I walk anywhere.
I was like, whoa.
When I was probably like eight or something, I kept convincing myself that I saw the number 11 everywhere, even though I think it showed up as much as any other number would.
But I thought that that meant I would die at 11.
And so I spent eight, the next three years thinking that my death year was coming.
And then all of 11, I would just wake up and wait.
For death.
Beautiful way to live.
Live like you're dying.
I hope you get a chance.
Because you could go skydiving.
You could go Rocky Mountain climbing.
You could go 3.7 seconds on a bull named Fu Manchu even.
If that's something you want.
Yeah.
Because if you I hope you get a chance to live like you're dying at 11.
Live like you're dying at 11.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then when I didn't die at 11, that was actually really healing.
No.
Yeah.
When I made it to 12, that was like, holy shit.
Like, maybe just maybe not every thought I have has to become a reality.
Oh, healing for your OCD.
Yeah.
I think you meant just in general, just to relax.
Oh, no.
That's like it taught me that I didn't have to believe every single thought I had.
And that's what OCD really is, is believing every single thought that enters your brain.
That's exhausting.
It's so tiring.
But you can get better.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
It's good to know.
Some people.
The only thoughts 100% I have or that I believe 100% are me convincing myself that someone
really just despises me.
That's the one I believe across the board.
Like I might I can have a great, great interaction with somebody and I will go through like every
single word I said.
I'm like, did I like emphasize this in a weird way?
Or was I like?
Eager or was I uninterested or whatever?
Like even last night, like I go through every interaction I had with each person I talked to.
I think that's normal.
That's not good, though.
I want to know.
It's not like awesome, but I think that's a very common thing that people.
That I would like if there was a pill for me to just like leave an interaction and that like once I'm done with the interaction, like I know that it's over.
Yeah.
Why are there not more pills?
There should be a pill for everything.
There should be.
I mean, how many?
This this whole podcast could be called.
There should be more pills.
More pills, please.
Bill me, baby.
I mean, it's like we have a podcast, you know, like every now and then.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, we do have a podcast.
And here we are.
I wanted to say something about that.
We may.
We're on another list.
That's not what I wanted to say.
Well, I want to.
Well, while you think we're on another list.
Can I say it?
Yeah.
So we're on the Hollywood Reporter list.
I don't know.
For something.
I want to see it because I don't know if we're on it as a unit.
No, I think we are.
But I but I could have read it wrong.
It's like a good list.
Yeah, definitely.
There's people posting about it.
I think we might have been on a different.
I was I was wondering if it was the same or a different list.
Might be a different list.
It came out today.
It came out today.
How come I.
But I don't know.
We're on that list yet.
Yeah.
So are we on this?
Yeah.
Oh, hello.
We're a unit.
We're a unit.
We're a complete and total unit.
What did they say about Brooke Avrick and Connor Wood?
OK.
How about you read it?
The podcast may be called Brooke and Connor Make a Podcast.
But what they've really made is Gen Z cult hit.
Holy cow.
Oh, my gosh.
I like that.
Gen Z cult hit.
Avrick and Wood bounce.
That's a good band name.
I don't mind it.
We could come out with some.
I don't mind that.
Music.
Avrick and Wood bounce between pop culture breakdowns, deadpan tangents, and existential
spirals.
We did all of those today.
Oh, my God.
Oh, look.
Look at the next sentence.
Often within the same five minutes.
I love that.
And their eclipsed chaotic rapport has struck a chord with chronically online 20-somethings.
Avrick also made waves on BookTok and as a debut novel.
Nice.
If you've ever meant it's going to lose it.
Nice.
Coming in 2026.
Wood's solo TikToks are equal parts sincere and absurd, sometimes in the same sentence.
I love that.
My screen time.
No.
Less than 11 hours.
The prompt was the one thing I miss about my life before I was a creator.
You said my screen time being less than 11 hours a day.
Connor, I kind of miss my nine to fives.
I was ultimately fired from every one of them as they weren't a part of my journey.
That's good.
Yeah, that is good.
Oh, that's all.
Oh, and Caleb Heeran is next.
Oh, I answered so many more prompts.
I don't know.
Oh.
I forgot.
Why did you do that?
I thought that they'd come back and say we can't use that photo.
Wait, what's happening?
So obviously Connor's headshot is toothless.
But how did you do that?
What are your tooth?
It's fudge.
Oh, it's fudge?
Oh, that's hysterical.
They said we need a headshot right now.
And I said, I'm heading out the door.
They said, we just need a headshot right now.
Okay.
So.
Awesome.
Do you like my picture?
Yeah, it's gorge.
Thanks.
Why?
What?
Because you didn't say it.
You didn't say if you liked it or not.
I'm a little like focused on them using this in the print piece.
Oh, look at those two.
They've been through so much.
Oh my gosh.
Do you think one day we're going to cry?
On the podcast?
Yeah.
I cried saying something to someone recently.
Yeah.
About my journey.
Yeah.
Do you want to hear what I said?
No.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, it's like kind of realistic.
It might be too sincere for like the last minutes of the time.
It's very sincere.
So it's, I'll save it, but I did cry in a way that I'm not used to and it made me extremely
uncomfortable.
So I won't, I won't put that on everyone else.
Cool.
That's amazing.
Thank you.
Hollywood reporter.
Seriously.
Thank you.
Is Alex and Sonny first on the list?
Nice.
Congratulations to her.
She's so funny.
Alex, we're in such good company and Amelia.
Is it alphabetical?
And Bowman.
Wow.
Oh, it is.
It is.
It is.
It is.
Brittany.
Did anyone else go as a two for?
I bet not.
This reminds me of when I auditioned.
Hannah.
Yeah.
Oh, Miss Rachel.
Wow.
Who's Aaron?
I don't know.
And Rhett and Link.
And Rhett and Link.
But it's similar to when I auditioned for a solo in the eighth grade chorus concert.
Yeah.
And was the only one that got a joint solo that also happened to be a speaking part.
And some nights by fun.
So this is it?
I don't know.
I sold my soul for this.
Yeah.
That part.
But it's shared with someone else.
I completely ruined the whole thing.
Wait, what did you ruin?
What part did you ruin?
So what had happened was I said, so this is, it was with my best friend, Jen, was the speaking
part.
I said, so this is it.
And you know, it's so this is it.
So I said.
Wash my hands of that.
Yeah.
So I said, so this is it.
And then Jen said, I traded my soul for that.
For this.
Which were not the words.
You know what?
If it hits the word count and works, it does not matter for that for this.
So obviously I start laughing like very, very, very hard.
And I thought what the best thing to do, because Jen had clearly messed up beyond belief.
I took the mic from her, stepped forward and belted the last line.
That's like, so come on, you know, like the worst note that's ever been uttered by anyone.
One that's ever opened their mouths.
And then the whole chorus devolved pretty badly.
No one could finish the song because they were laughing.
Yes.
So I had to then approach the chorus teacher as we were walking off the risers.
And I said, I'm sorry about that.
And then she said, it's okay.
I'm sure you didn't mean to sabotage the whole concert.
Which is right.
I didn't.
That is a Carrie and the boobla type comment.
Yeah.
So I, now I can't listen to some nights by fun.
Like if it's on, I'll say, please skip this.
I can't.
I get that.
I get that.
Wasn't a good one to begin with, but.
No, there's some.
i can't listen to either now there's associated traded myself for that for this i had a
we had some kind of concert where we all had to wear primary colors
and i had a line and i was really stoked on it and each person you know like walked up to the
mic and said it and mine was long too i get up i i was i'm good at like i was good at memorizing
lines and it was like this is why i got this i memorized this whole line it was probably a minute
long i walk up to the mic i can't remember the first word i stood there for a full minute
walk away my parents were like pissing their pants laughing
oh it was so funny my dad's like still if he came into the room you ask him about like
me being in plays and like growing up he will heal he's like it was pure
brilliance i was like i didn't say my line even wow
yeah
you know you've seen that picture of me about to throw up during the christmas concert yeah
during we need a little christmas now hot out the holly yeah yeah yeah so i had some amazing
moments on stage it sounds like we both did i missed the stage man i missed the stage what
i mean back on it what i would give for one more day with my one more day on those risers on those
risers did you have anyone that locked their knees and passed out no but like for whatever
reason we had so many people just threw up on the rise
i think it's the heat no it's no no it's a thing it's a thing about lack of blood flow and locking
your knees there if there's one thing that's risers those risers smelled like vomit because
everyone would vomit on them and then they would lock their knees and pass out yeah and there is a
fear of passing out that's in me where every now and then if i'm standing for a long time i will
bend my knees and squat and get the blood flowing because the choir i wasn't even in choir it stuck
with me and such a like a it built into my body weight like things you remember for survival don't
lock your knees you'll pass out you'll throw up on the risers was the worst of it though did you
have a recorder concert on the risers did i have a recorder that's when people started to pass out
because you're blowing out so much air you're not getting and you're not getting enough in you're
putting all of your oxygen into the recorder the fact that these teachers put our physical
health on the line so for us to play patty cake what is this hot cross buns there's no reason
kids should be passing out literally hot cross buns and it sounded it was it was complete it
was a bloodbath up there it wasn't like and everyone's playing a different note kids are
falling like dropping hitting the risers and it wasn't the show fainting it wasn't the show goes
on because it was like
like someone falls on the risers it was like one dean dead at hot cross buns show
so rest in peace anyways i'm gonna let you go because i gotta hop on an interview
it's time you actually do yeah and so i'll i'll think i'll start to think about seeing you in
bonus okay try to wrap your head around it and we'll see you guys in bonus uh this is my quince
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