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Omarion Comes Ready to Cut Up

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Omarion Comes Ready to Cut Up

Omarion reflects on his journey from being part of the group B2K to establishing a successful solo career, emphasizing personal growth, maturity, and the importance of mutual support in both music and relationships. He shares how early experiences—such as meeting Michael Jackson—deepened his professional identity and sense of purpose. Omarion champions individual autonomy in romantic relationships, arguing that monogamy or open relationships should be personal choices grounded in honesty and respect, not rigid societal norms. He acknowledges the emotional complexity of navigating fame, money, and relationships, particularly during formative years, and stresses the importance of self-awareness, integrity, and emotional boundaries. Drawing from his own experiences, he highlights how personal values, such as veganism and self-care, reflect his broader commitment to authenticity. He also touches on the emotional and cultural impact of music, noting how nostalgia and shared experiences shape his creative work and connection with fans. Ultimately, Omarion emphasizes the need for balance—honoring past successes while remaining grounded in personal truth, self-respect, and emotional maturity. His reflections on relationships, music, and identity underscore a philosophy of growth, choice, and authenticity that defines both his career and personal life.

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He was the first person that bowed to me. I'm like, Michael Jackson? Straight up. Monogamy versus open relationship. That's for me to answer, right? Yeah, both of us. Oh, OK. Go ahead. You go. Oh, I see what you did there. Yeah. I figured it out. Not you with the light-skinned squint on me. You going to do one called GPS? Might have to locate that Gucci. I feel like we need to put that in. You must make that happen. Hey, we got you. We got you, bro. Hey! We don't have to scream it. Just spend some time with your damn self. Yeah! Stop going from relationship to relationship. Or go! What is up, neighbors? We've got Omarion pulling up to the house today with that main stage kind of energy. He is a multi-platinum singer, songwriter, actor, and one of R&B's most magnetic performers. Y'all know he had our whole generation on lock when he was the frontman for B2K. And y'all remember, you guys served. Solo career has kept him on stage for more than two decades. Fresh off of a Versus battle that had everybody talking. And new music of his own, O2, the album we got to dig into. And new music from B2K on the way. Y'all, I bet he's the kind of house guest that energy just doesn't stop. You better buckle up. Let's get it. Come on in. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Brother, I'm so excited to have you, man. Yeah, have a seat. Come have a seat. Thanks for having me. Man! Oh, OK. We got some fruit situation. A little Avocado. You know what I'm saying? We call it Guap. We call it Guax in this house. Yeah, a little Guax-ish. Hospitality, I appreciate that. Exactly. Let me get some of that in there. Now, listen, everything here is vegan for you today. I am. With you in mind. Thank you, bro. You for real vegan? Yeah, for like nine years. I'm sorry. It's been tough? No. No. Not even a little bit? No, man. It's not in L.A., probably not. But when you get on the road, it's probably a little bit. It is a little tough. Because you're ordering sides. Basically. They have no consideration for us. Yeah, they like, yeah, give them some corn. Root. Beet root. Right, right. They have a beet, you know, heat it up, a little salt. We can't get nothing else? I'm like, we can't get nothing else? What made you decide to go vegan? So what happened was. Oh, shit. So what happened was I stopped eating chicken and meat and then I was pescatarian. And then I was pescatarian for like three years. Okay. And then I did this parasite cleanse. And after I did the 30 days, I just didn't crave fish no more. I didn't crave meat. Really? Yeah, after the parasite cleanse, I can't get myself to. Desire a taste for it. Yeah, like lobster or crab or dungeness crab, like the things that I used to eat that I'm like, okay, tonight I'm going to go eat, you know, cracked open dungeness crab with the garlic. Like, I don't crave it anymore. That's wild. Because I'm going to tell you right now, you was talking about it and I was like, I could go get some. You know what I mean? A little seafood gumbo right now. I'm telling you. Might set the day off right. I mean. The fact that you are still making music. On stage, performing, people are still losing their minds. Like, it's crazy. It's truly a blessing. I'm so grateful to still, you know, inspire, you know, because that's essentially, you know, what I'm here for. Now, did your mama name you Omarion? Well, actually, my real name is Omari. So how did the Ayan come up? Yeah, the Ayan. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, forever. So I'm going to break that down to you. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew it was a story. I was always around music. My mom did hair for a lot of musical artists. You know, one being Kirk Franklin. She used to do God's Property hair. Did Usher's hair before. Did Jermaine Dupri hair when he had hair. Right. So I was always around entertainers. I used to be in this rap group called the Wild Kingdom. Shout out to Ruckus because he is who dubbed me Omarion. Yeah, he dubbed me Omarion. Because my name, my original name. And that's why he. Swahili means God's gift. Yep. King forever. Yep. So he put the O-N on there. Omarion. I love that. Matthew is my first name. Yeah, break it down. And it's a gift of God. Let's go. So hello. Right. It's a lot of gifts. It's a lot of gifts in the building. Especially in your name. Yeah. Om is the first part of my name. O-M. Om. Which is where you are right now, I feel like. Yes, that's the frequency of the universe. You are really in this space. When I see you in public. You know, we've been at a few events and stuff together. You have this calm that's on you. You have this, what feels like this self-assuredness maybe even. That's so strong. Yeah. I mean, you know, being in the industry as long as I've been in the industry. The ups and downs. The peaks and valleys. You really have to figure out what grounds you. In order to really truly have not just, you know, the big success parts of it. But, you know, also those transitional parts. Because it's a part of the journey. It's a part of the journey as well. Yeah. And like, be thankful for all of it. Yeah, for real. But get back to the true. Of course. The real thing. Always. Okay. So, speaking of getting back to the real thing. Okay. I know you don't drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not my problem. Okay. What I mean by that is, that's not my life. I didn't mean to say that's not my problem. I think. You knew what I was going to say. I get what you were going to say. That ain't my problem. Okay. So, I made us Agra Frescas. Okay. Because, you know, I'm big into like the skin. Okay. You know. Right. Antioxidant. Like, feed your body. You feed your skin from the inside, not just the products we put on it. Yeah, yeah. So, we've got maracuya. Maracuya. Maracuya. Maracuya. Yeah, that's passion fruit. Oh, swag. Yeah, passion fruit and cucumber. Oh. With a little bit of coconut water. Swag. I've never done this before. Oh, okay, okay. You said, oh, shit. So, shoot me today? Yeah, let's check it out. And then I have got, do you like tajin? Are you a fan of it? No, not really. Okay, I'm going to do tajin. Okay. I'm going to do tajin on mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I got tequila in mine. Oh, okay. So, I'm going to pour you up real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appreciate you. People love tajin. I tried to get into it. It's a little spicy. Yeah, it's a little spicy. A little spicy. There ain't nothing wrong with a little spice in your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the people in the world. All the boys and all the girls. Hey. Ah. I'm just playing. Hey. So, I found, better than water, lime is the better sticking agent for tajin. Oh, okay. So, you put the lime on the glass and then you just. Oh, swag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Swag. Damn, look at that. That's a vibe. Now, I'm going to tell you, when I'm at a restaurant, don't rim my glass. Oh, God. Because I'm not about to be in your restaurant licking a cup. Right, right, right, right, right, right. But at home. But at the crib, though. Yeah, I know how to clean these. I cleaned them. Mine is now a cocktail. Oh. Okay. Boom. Salud. Salud. Salud. Yes, sir. Oh. See? Banger. You said passion fruit? Passion fruit, cucumber. Okay. A little salt. Oh, yeah. A little coconut water. Oh, yeah. That's fresh. Right? Fresh. It's very fresh. Very fresh. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you like it, brother. Yeah, no, it's great, man. Thank you. I'm going to be honest with you. If you want to try with tequila, you're not going to say no. No, no, no, man. I'm cool. Okay, so, bruh, the versus battle. Yeah. I know y'all was on that stage like. So, in the spirit of the versus battle. The versus situation. I figured we'd play a little get to know you game. Okay. It's called versus round two. Let's go. It's a little this or that. Okay. But while we're on the subject, brother versus. Yeah. In your mind. Yeah. When you saw Pretty Ricky come out the first time, you was like, ah. I was thinking. You're right. You're right. I mean, what a great experience, man. Yeah. It had to be so fun. Yeah, it was. And, you know, we just got off a tour together. So, you know, that banter, that vibe, that energy was just picked up from tour, man. So, it was a great experience, man. I had fun. What did you think of the rules? No solo music. Well, see, he made that rule up. Pleasure P made that rule up. You feel me? You can't be on the platform and making up the rules, fam. That's cheating. That's cheating. And he still did some of his solo songs at the end. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, P, we caught you. We caught you, bro. We caught you. We caught you, man. You ain't in charge of this, man. I'm just saying. You on the board. Right. Come on. You like no solo record. I mean, the conversation online, it was like one of the most talked about things that was happening. And I feel like it had to be reassuring to you, especially as B2K's got new music about to come out and that kind of thing. Like, it's got to be reassuring that there's still this interest, this curiosity, and this want for music from y'all. When you really dive into the journey. Of B2K and our time together was really short, you know, and how impactful it was for it to be coming around. You know, it's just, it's what I feel like all artists really want at the end of the day. Of course. Like, people that have been with them on their journey and through the ups and downs, the differences of opinions, it's like we're up next in line when it comes to, you know, those people that I looked up to, you know, like Michael Jackson and, I mean, even. I mean, like, some of our immediate, you know, Beyonce. You know, she's still gigging. She's still performing. She's still finding her. You see what she did on the Jay-Z concert? Come on. What was this? How was the family convo in the kitchen like, all right, so look, boo, I need you to come and do this, learn this part right here, and then B, you're going to sing that part? And she's like, yeah, I want to sing this part because, you know, they got some ideas. At the family recital? Come on. I mean, incredible. I bought a pinstripe suit. I was like, I can't wait to wear this. Yeah. - It's tight. ♪ Who do you think you are ♪ Come on. - Straight up, incredible. - And so also, to think about that album, that time, an anniversary tour, we're talking about three decades plus. Your music, you have that. - Yo, I will never not be grateful for that connection to have stayed open all of this time. And also, just to piggyback off of the verses, that's one thing that me and my group spoke about earlier on when we came back together for the tour, was how to support each other. And that has never happened for me inside of my group because we broke up and got back together. - Y'all were way too young. I shouldn't say way too young. Y'all were so young. You were becoming men, you know what I mean? You were still young guys becoming men. You didn't have the, weren't equipped with the things that you would need to be running businesses. - Exactly. In essence, you are when you're a group. - Exactly. And adults, you know, and I think that that's why it's came back around for the higher level of experience, like support, like, oh, we want you to do your record. This is the transformation of us, you know what I'm saying? So when people are seeing us together and I'm doing my solo, it's because they support me. Just like everybody should support each other. - Well, they say when the ships rise with the tides. - Ooh, okay. - So. - I thought I had it. I really thought I had it. - But it's this ride. - With the tides. - Shit. - I read, I lit with the wrong part. - That was good though, I was following you. - But I really thought I had it. I was like, you saw me pause. I was like, no nigga, not when the ride. I was like, don't say that. - I got you. - 'Cause that's how you always start it. And that's not-- - With the ship. I panicked. - I was like, we going up. - I panicked. - With the tides. - That's what I should have said. - We going up. - Neighbors, I spent half my life sitting in this vehicle. Driving the studio, sitting in traffic. Getting the car washed, sitting in traffic. Driving to events or dinner, sitting in traffic. But thank God I can listen to audio books on Amazon Music Unlimited to get me through it. And right now I'm listening to Becoming by Michelle Obama. And let me tell you, her voice is so soothing too. 'Cause like, imagine me getting ready to go off on the car that just cut off. Cut me off. And then suddenly you hear, in surround sound, mind you, when they go low, we go high. Michelle, we are becoming who we're meant to be, but I'm not there yet. But it just lifts you up. And that's what I love about audio books. You can be driving, working out, even cleaning your house, and suddenly all that time that's passing feels like it's giving you something back. And with an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription, now you get access to audio books too. So that's music, podcasts, audio books, all in the one app. Amazon Music. Get into it. Guess first. All right, all right. Help me, help me, help me. Swag, swag, swag. Again? You good, you good. Swag. Yes, sir. You know, 'cause you be looking and then you don't say nothing. Yeah, thank you. Come on, man. Thank you. Because people will just let you look crazy. They will. And there's two kind of people in the world. One that will look at your ass like this, right on your lip, like you need to get this shit, but won't say nothing to you. Don't say nothing. And a person who will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause we all appreciate it. Come on. Could you imagine if I just did this whole episode? Tahini episode. I'd have been so mad at your ass if you said that. I'd be like, this nigga didn't say nothing. He didn't say nothing. OK, guess first. You go first. All right, cool. Cool. Ranch versus hot sauce. Which wins? Man, this is difficult. You only get one. These is two different palettes, you know what I'm saying, for two different purposes. But I feel like it's two different people. Because a person who says ranch over hot sauce, that's a personality type. That's true. Man, I'm leaning on the hot sauce. Exactly. Right. I think it's-- I don't know if there's many vegan ranches. That's true. They got eggs in them. Yeah, and milk and cream and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. You end up with a chimichurri trying to make them vegan. That's true. That's true. So I'm going to go hot sauce. Hot sauce. Yeah. I'm going to say the same thing. OK. Have you been around people who put ranch on everything? I used to be that person. I'm sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to put the ranch with the hot sauce and the ketchup. Potato situation. All together? Bomb. Bomb. I'm telling you. The ranch with the hot sauce? OK. And the ketchup. Think about that mix. Oh, wow. Yes, wow. We got to win somewhere with the ketchup. You got to try that out. Ketchup on the other side. Yeah, yeah, I need that mix. You put it all together. I needed that mix. I don't do it no more. Yeah, I know, because-- Who makes-- They got some. They do. They do got some. But it ain't good. No, it ain't that good. It ain't that good. They just started being able to get vegan cheese to melt. Right, that's true. So I'm not sold on that. Don't get me wrong, vegans, I support you. Look at us here today. Some of that shit, you got to just give it up. Are you the kind of person that, in your vegan food practice, do you search for meat recipe replacements? Are you eating barbecue, tofu? Oh, this is a vegan chicken nugget. I'm not a big tofu person. I have tasted it where they have made it really, really good. But I think it really boils down to texture and flavor. Yeah, of course, sometimes, because they have meat substance out there, I don't know how good it is for you, but I know that it kind of achieves that-- That bite. Yes, and also, too, I'm going to tell you a vegan secret. Some people eat ice cream, you know what I'm saying? Some people put a little bit of milk into their diet just because they can't give it up. So that's like cheating. That's the vegan cheat. But you're not eating animals. You a megan. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. If you got milk in there, you mean it. That's true, that's true, that's true. But I get it, because that would be hard to give up. Sorbet don't do the same thing. I love sorbet. I love it. - It is. It's delicious. - Right, right. Oh my god, it's delicious. But anybody like, hey, you want to go grab some sorbet? It's too much to even say on your tongue. Here we go. Funny versus fine. Oh, damn. If you funny enough, you're going to become fine. That's true, that's true. But funny can get weird, too. I guess they can both get weird. Yeah, fine get real. That's too weird. Yeah, that's true, that's true, that's true. I probably would go with funny, too. You would? Yeah, because I think funny is more lasting. Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? I want to laugh together. - Yeah, straight up, straight up. Not just be waiting for you to get ready. Yeah, yeah. And fine shit without the funny is like-- or without nothing else is just like you're just looking at something. - Yeah. Which, don't get me wrong. - Yeah, yeah. Great. - Let me look at-- yeah. Great. - Most definitely. But-- - Come on, we need-- In the long run? - Yeah, yeah. We need a little funny. - Give me some funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Funny wins. Straight up. OK, solo act versus group act. When you went solo out originally from B2K, was that like a desire you had all your life? Or was that-- I kind of presented to you like, hey, is this time for-- this is what you got to do now. It was a desire that I had, but it was before I met the group. I always felt like, you know, the group was something interesting and expansive, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not just about me. Like, it's cool that it's about me, you know what I mean? Like, I do my thing, you know what I mean? Right. Like, I always, especially as a man, take whatever accountability, you know, for what I want to put out in the world and what I should receive back in return, you know what I mean? So I think as a man, we all have that. So we're all solo acts. Bringing our expertise, perspective, skills to the group. - To the group. So it's like, you can't really be good in the group if you don't have any assets, you know what I'm saying? I know, that's right. Yeah. So I think it's hard to say, you know what I mean? Because I think that in the right group, wonderful things can happen, you know what I'm saying? In the wrong group, horrible shit can happen, you know what I'm saying? It goes down all the time. But if you're by yourself, you know what I'm saying? If it happens bad to you, you can't blame nobody else but yourself. - It's all on you. It's all on you, you feel me? So I think that they kind of serve different purposes. Yeah, I think I would want to be in a group. Yeah, yeah. Straight up. Because, like, I just want to play my part. Right, right, right. Second row. Right, but always with a crazy face. Straight up. Like, I would have been Scary Spice. Always with a crazy face. Not that she would-- she was in the front, though. Right, right, right. But, like, I would have been-- Right, right, right, right. Because I'm not-- I'm funny. I'm not fine, you know what I'm saying? But I'm fun-- I'm so funny, I become fine. Right. Look at you right now, you're like, what? See? But I would need to be in a group. I need, like, a-- this is my role. Right. Listen, I'd play this part. No, groups are so much fun, man. Yeah. Especially when you walk into a place, you know what I mean, because everybody has different flavors and different tastes. So it's just like a group of, you know what I mean, sauce. Sauce coming through. Yeah. It's like, oh, you like this sauce, that's for you. Oh, you like my sauce, I'm for you. Saucy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a saucy time. Saucy time. Yeah. I mean, even the Jonas Brothers, Kevin, somebody want him. I'm just saying. He been married the longest. And see, the thing about the group is there's someone for everyone. For everybody. For everyone. You don't even got to want what that person want. It's somebody for you. Were you ever confronted with the idea, with the notion that you were, like, that people, like, we were literally choosing people in the group? Like, that's mine. That's mine. You know, like, girls are like, he's mine. Were y'all aware that that was happening? Of course. And I think that it worked for us even more because we were proud of that, you know what I'm saying? Because we was like, wait a minute, this type of vibe? Oh, she your type of vibe. I ain't tripping off of that. Oh, she saying no, but why she entertaining me? Oh, OK. Oh, shit. You feel me? So it's like, you kind of got to let the ladies do they thing. Interesting. So you got to fall back, and you got to let it come to you. Yeah. How you-- nah, it's all good. How you doing? Oh, you're-- oh, OK, yeah. It doesn't hurt that your name is Amaria. Because you could just be like, oh, oh, hey, yeah, what's your name? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, it wouldn't work if your name was Robert. I don't have the same. My name is Tom. Oh, T? Oh, T actually could work right now. That's T. Right. Ah, this is interesting. Okay. Who has it harder when dating, especially initially? I'm going to add that caveat. Who has it harder when dating right now, men versus women? I would say that it's equal. Love is a battlefield. Period. And also, I think that, you know, the general consensus of how a man should present himself is like kind of up for conversation right now. Yes. What is masculinity? Yes. And how to present or the concept of courting a woman, you know what I mean? But that woman has changed. You know, if you're a powerful woman and you have a job, then, you know, the approach is a little bit different. So I wouldn't put it on the man or the woman. I would say it's both. In a lot of ways, I agree with you. Yeah. But in a lot of ways, I think. I think it's women have a harder time. Okay. Because I was having a conversation with a friend of mine. We left a place at the same time. Uh-huh. Right? I was unaware that when she gets home, she walks on the side of a park to get into her place in New York. I never had to consider her being afraid for her life. Yeah. Or the fear of being assaulted. Yeah. Just getting home. Yeah. Like blind dates. Women are like, I'm not. Yeah. She's over here blind. That's facts. That's facts. Blind? That's facts. I got eyes. They be nervous. Yeah. They be like, wait a minute. Hold up. Hold up. Wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute. Where we going? What we doing? What we doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whose drink is this? I'm not drinking that. It's true. And I have a daughter. See? Wait, how old is she? She's young. She's just 10. 10 is where you start. Don't you start having conversations about what is appropriate for somebody to be talking to you. Exactly. You know, how someone can talk to you and that kind of thing. What are those conversations like? It's really about awareness because kids are innately and keenly sensible. So they can feel when something doesn't feel right or wrong. Even if the conversation isn't going the right way. So I always have the real adult conversation with them about awareness. Like, listen to that feeling. Yes. Understand that. And look at people. Right. Look at people. See what, feel their energy. See what they're going through. If you feel like you need to protect yourself, you need to do that. Right. And don't feel no kind of way about it. I know that's right. Don't feel no kind of way about it. You could even ask that question, which is harder to raise. Yeah. A young boy or a young girl. Yeah, it's tough these days. My mama's going through it with my little sisters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit. Yeah, no, straight up. And it also helps to be like on one accord with your partner. Yes. Who you've, you know, had the chat with because essentially they're both of you guys. So they're going to be inquisitive. They're going to be curious. Mm-hmm. You know, so I think as a dad, it's dad's job to make sure those real conversations are happening. Yeah. Even if it's a little uncomfortable. Uncomfortable. You know you ain't supposed to be doing that. Why? Why are you not supposed to be doing that? So are you the authoritarian? Are you the discipline in the household, in the family? I guess you could say that I do. You said, no, why are you? Because you went into dad mode. Now, why are you doing that? Because, you know, I want the kids to think. Right. And to use their brain. And to be like, wait a minute, hold up. Why did I do that? Was I persuaded by something? Was I inspired by something? Right. Or am I being manipulated? Yeah. You got that choice. And I think that as a parent, it's our job to make them aware. That it's up to you. It's okay. You don't make mistakes. I'm with that. Come on, parent. Come on now. Come on, be a dad. You feel me? Come on, father. You'll raise these kids. Guess what? When I'm gone, the community got to deal with it. Right. And that's what other people who don't have kids don't understand. Because it truly takes a village. You're going to go to some school, and it's going to be a community there. Right. Now, guess what? If one of these kids got some issues, your kid is going to be confronted with it. Right. And they need to know how to. Okay. Hey, you know what, dad? I'm just letting you know. Okay? The kid said he da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, why he say that? He said, next time he mess with my sister, I'm going to go push him. I'm like. I'm going to go push him. All right. Well, son, just know, if I get that phone call. You got to have those. Life's about choices. We got to have those conversations. Yeah. So, I love being a dad, man, for that reason. Yeah, my mom was a get your lick back kind of mom. Okay. She was like, yeah, if they hit you, you get that ass. Right. Then you come let me know. Right. When did you get that hit back? Straight up. You let nobody just whoop on you. Exactly. Yeah. She was also 20. Okay. Yeah, no, my mom. She was a very young mom. My mom was a very young mom. My mom was young when she had me, too. She was actually 16. Yeah. Come on, young mom. Come on, young mom. Come on. Don't let her go run around. I mean, no, not now. Like, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, if you happen to be a young mom, thank you for your service. Yeah, yeah. But also, like, well, listen. Yeah. I just want to fill your life. The best thing for you. Right. I would have a 20-year-old right now. Mm. That's crazy. No, that's crazy. No, that took my breath away. Whoo. The 20-year-old today. Today? Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, stressful. Gen Z? Big love. Oh, Gen Z. You know, they turnt up to the max. Gen Z turnt up. They don't give a fuck. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Apple Card puts the power of titanium in the palm of your hand. Now, what does that mean? 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But I think monogamy, the assumption that everyone should be monogamous. Yeah. Is tough. Straight up. What about you? Yeah, I would, I would agree. I would say that in my experience, monogamy felt like, you know, it was something that I had to do. Mm-hmm. And as I continue to grow and experience, you know, throughout the difference of connections and relationships that I have with women, I'm not sure that that concept without it feeling natural and free to me, because I think a man can be with one woman, but it has to be his choice. Yeah. It has to be his choice and it can't just be in the confines in concept of a relationship, which sometimes are titles. A performance. Yes. Yes. So for me, I would agree with you. I think that if you are in the business of, of love, because love, love is a business as well. I think that you should be open enough to allow someone to be honest, to express themselves. Yeah. Not everybody can handle that. What you mean? Love is a business. You mean like OnlyFans? No. What you mean love is a business? No, no. I mean, love is a business. Like in reference to how you're connecting with someone. Let's just say, if I get with a girl, you know, and nobody knows her tomorrow, that's a business for her. Oh, yeah. That's a business. Woo. Don't be famous. It is tough. It is. Whoa. I never thought about that like that because they're everybody looking at you and they like, well, what does she do? What does she do? You know, outside of loving you, you know what I'm saying? Who is she? Right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I meant. Wow. Okay. Love being a business. Okay. Here's my question about open relationships for you. Yeah. Are you the kind of guy that's like, I am in an open relationship. You are in a relationship with me. I think that I have came across girls that are like that. I would say that I am not completely interested. I have, have not been interested in the past of completely connecting with someone like that just because there is, is I think the man and the woman whole energy different. Yeah. And I think that for a woman that is open to a lot of different energies, I don't know how attracted I am to that element. So while I will want a woman to still choose where she will want to be, I could also accept that like maybe she wants to go elsewhere, but there's levels, there's levels. We're not just outside. Yeah. Well, this is, there's levels to it because you know what I'm saying? The energy. Got it. And we say, okay, but you got to come home to this baby. Okay. So what are you doing? Oh, okay. So what do you need? Right. I mean like, cause I got all of that. Okay. I got all of that. I'm right. Learning something about a money on a day. Okay. Let's see. No, cause I get it. Cause I think, I think, I think a lot of men who are in heterosexual relationships have a hard time with a woman having the same freedom or space in an openness of their relationship. Yeah. Yeah. that they might have, meeting someone who's like, yeah, I'm out here just like you out here, is a condition most men cannot accept in an open relationship. And I think it's sometimes hard for women who would or wouldn't. It's like, but it's got to be good for the goose and good for the gander. Yeah, and then also, as a man, you got to be realistic. Like, you don't think she ain't got nobody on her line? You don't think ain't nobody talking? So to me, that is the kind of entryway that I like to at least have a conversation about what's realistic. Because if you're a queen that decides to keep her energy and she doesn't only experience with multiple energies at a time, I respect that, too. I actually like that. I probably prefer that a little bit more because it means that you have, you know, personal energetic integrity. Right. Don't get me wrong. I know you done been with some folks now. Let's not play this game now. Strict parent or best friend parent? You got to be strict or you got to be best friend. Which one are you going to be? I had strict. Damn. My mama was not. She was like, this ain't the Kool-Aid house. Right. You ain't spending the night nowhere. Both of them is love, though. Well, I don't know if best friend parent is love. I think some of that's fear. Okay. Well, best friend win because your kids do grow up. You can approach it like, well, what would I do for my friend? You know, they're not your friend. No. They're not your friend. That's your kid. Yeah, that's your kid. So you got to do what's best. But if you would give your best friend. Advice. It would be, it would be the best advice. It would be the best advice. I hear what you're saying. I'm just saying. You're trying to get around it, but I hear what you're saying. I do believe in like boundaries and guidelines and rules. And when you have a strict parent, I just don't know how much love you actually get from like a strict parent versus one that is going to like befriend you. Well, I'm going to tell you when I was getting whooped, she told me it was because she loved me. Okay. But that's true though. It's true. I won't do this because I love you. She was a drill sergeant. Because she was mom and dad. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right, brother. Yes, sir. Whoop your kids. That's the normal story. But tell them you love them while you're doing it. Tell them you love them. Man, I appreciate the vegan curry. Right? It's delicious, man. I mean, I would eat that. I could eat Jamaican food, Caribbean food, Latin food, Colombian, Puerto Rican. Yeah, anytime I go to Europe, I make sure I stick to those flavors. Yeah, I'm going to tell you, London. Ooh, talk to me. Great, great food. English food. No. Hard pass. Yeah, I'm looking for the first and nearest Jamaican restaurant. Yeah, no. Or Indian. Yeah. Because the spices be right. Also. But, like, Lebanese. Right. Holla at me. Right. You know, you get your little Middle Eastern situation. Straight up. I'm with it. Eating fish and chips at a pub. Oh, come on, fam. Hard pass. Cultural experience. Had it. Did it. For sure, for sure. Next. I have a question for you. Yeah. I mean, like, when you were a kid, I know you talked about your mom, artists always being around you, musicians always being around. But, like, did you know that you would be famous for making music? Did you know that you would be, this would be your life? Yeah. I mean, I felt. I felt like my life was preparing me for my purpose, you know? Yeah. My first dance recital was at five. So, I've always, in essence, been preparing myself to be a performer. What did you dance to? It was a Michael Jackson song. Of course it was. For sure. Of course it was. Of course it was. Of course it was. Did you have the experience as a kid watching Michael Jackson, like, oh, that's what I want Most definitely. As a singer and a dancer, who doesn't? Yeah, that's true. Man, I got to meet him. Me too. What? Yeah, I got the chance to meet him. Why are we just now talking about this right now? Yeah. We done been in the house for a long time. Wait, what was that like? Man, that was different. That was different. He was the first person who bowed as a show of reverence. Like, I hadn't been to Japan as a young man, so I didn't know people there, they bow as a, you know, show of respect. Yeah. I'm like. Michael Jackson? Straight up. He was like. I'm like, why is he bowing? Right. It's like, oh, that's respect. What did he say? So, I forget what B2K was doing. I think we was either preparing for a show or in rehearsal or something, but we was all together. I forgot who woke us up, but somebody woke us up and was like, yo, y'all want to go see Michael? And the boys, they didn't wake up. It was two of the boys that didn't wake up. They dread that to this day. Yeah. To this day. Yeah. To this day, they be like, yo, y'all didn't wake us up. And we're like, no, we tried to wake y'all up. But, yeah, Rodney Jerkins is the reason why we were able to go up to the video set, which was, I think, on the back lot of Paramount. So, we went up there, and then, you know, he just came walking up with his hands behind his back, and he smiled, put his hands together, he bowed. What? He was like, yo, this is B2K. It's the boys. And I was just like, didn't know what to say. I was like, exactly, like that. I was like. That's what it is. And I'm like. And then he laughed at Rodney. He was like, Rodney. He's talking to Rodney. I'm like, oh, okay. What's up, Mike? Love you, man. Yeah. You the best. That's crazy. Yep. My cousin has a story about meeting Michael Jackson in a Sam Goody in Indianapolis. What? She was in the music store, like the CDs and tapes and all that stuff. She's in the store. I tell her, like, it happened to me sometimes. I'm not going to do that today, because she might see this. And she'd be like, hey, how you just going to take my story? But every other time I've told this story, I was in Sam Goody. Right. She was in Sam Goody. They shut the store down. She hid so that they couldn't get her out. Oh, wow. She hid, and in walks Michael Jackson. I think she handed him, like, an Erykah Badu CD or something. The first thing she could grab. And I was like, will you sign this? And he takes it, and he's like, oh, I'm not going to sign Erykah's. I'll sign this. Oh. It was his own. That's crazy. I said, what did you say? She was like, I think I just screamed. She was like, I totally understand why people just, now I get why people pass out and stuff, because you just cannot help it. Yeah, his energy was just on another frequency. You just lose your mind. So when you think about the trajectory of your life, when did you feel like you knew it was happening? I think it was after our first award show performance. You know, we were always, you know, putting ourselves out there. We were always in positions to display our talent and skills. You know, we were always performers. So after that, that first award show, when we flew in at the BET Awards, I mean, it was just, it was epic. It was like, okay, now the world know who we are. Right. But also, like, now that's how we started this. Exactly. Exactly. Now we got to do another one. They got some elephants or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight up. You know? That pressure, I would imagine, too, it's a lot. How old were y'all? 16, 17. Whoa. Yeah, we were kids. We were kids for sure. I mean, we was having a ball, too, though. Yeah. Yeah, we was having so much fun. I'm having so much fun. Maybe too much fun. Sometimes, probably. Maybe too much fun. Sometimes. Buying all kind of shit. Buying cribs, buying cars, multiple cars. What was the first splurge you bought? Do you remember what it was? Mm-hmm. It was a $5,000 that I didn't have. Okay. Listen, I'm famous and I'm rich. Yeah. I deserve it. I bought a Lachman. It used to be this watch back in the day. It was a Lachman and it was like all ice pavé and it was a red band and I could change out the bands. So, that was the first splurge. And when I got my first check, I think it was like for $10,000, five of it was gone. Five was gone, y'all. You're walking around like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at me. In the music video, like. Yeah, straight up. Look at me. Straight up. We were not taught how to make music. How to manage that kind of money. I'm not going to speak for you, but I didn't have a lot of family members that operated on this kind of level of income. You know, don't get me wrong. There's some that can be taught the basics of money management can be taught, you know, by any parent, that kind of thing. Yeah. But my mama wasn't even the best with her money. Like, for real. Like, she can't teach me. I mean, she taught me, I need to have a savings account. Right. I need to put some of your check in the savings account. Exactly. But like, how to deal with a credit card. That's facts. Who was there for you? Who was there for you learning some of those lessons? Or did you have to figure it out your own, too? I figured it out. I figured it out, you know. Not you went to light-skinned squint on me. Yo. You said, I figured it out. I figured it out. Because you're right. And especially being that young, I believed I moved out of my house and started paying rent by 16. Yep. Even though I thought I knew the math, the math still wasn't math-y. Yeah. You know, it taught me one valuable lesson that that is, is that it is important to find other strategies to stretch your money, you know? And that doesn't just mean saving your money. Like, it means investing in things. It means, like, you know, putting your money with things of value. Yep. Because I wasn't, and still am. Like, I love clothes, you know? I love to spend money on clothes. But it's like, am I really going to wear, am I going to really wear a $10,000? Nah. Yes. I'm going to wear it one time. I'm going to wear it a lot. No. $10,000? You see? I'm gonna wear that to the grocery store. - Yeah, no, I definitely, done that, too. I've always wondered, especially with groups that have had major success early in the group's existence and then explode into what feels like a whole bunch of money. I don't know if it actually was. How do you then navigate some of those scenarios? It definitely was a bunch of money. The way that it's managed, though, it really makes the difference of appreciation, respect, and consistency in your life. I think that those were the lessons that I paid for more than anything. It's just really doing my due diligence and making sure that I'm represented in a proper way because at the end of the day, I always got to go on the stage and I have to fulfill a type of duty. When the pie comes, I can't just be leaving with half of the pie. We all got to get our cut. Exactly. Everybody got to eat. Good. Yeah. Sometimes the boss eats last. Vegan food ain't cheap. You know it's expensive. I ain't never seen, if they say vegan on it, it's at least two, three dollars more. I'm just saying. Yeah. And you'd be like, it's vegetables. Right. Ain't even no meat in it. I said, no, it's that sauteed living good. That's living good. Yeah, I get it. That sauteed living good. Living good. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. How are you doing is a question we take more seriously these days. We even talk more openly about our mental health and mental wellness, but it can still feel hard to answer. Ask for and get the help that you need. 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Because when we separated, it wasn't of our own will. It was kind of separated through the business of us. And it was like, okay, well, y'all stay over there. We're taking O. Oh, snap. Yeah. So it was not a lot of preparation and consideration and intention in going into my solo act. It was kind of like we were upset with each other. And it was like, this is my response. Now I'm going to do an album. Now I'm going to work with this person and this person. And that's kind of how it came to be. That's why I was telling you earlier when I said having my group support. Because of course, if you just flipped on the other side, then how would you feel if you're like, wait a minute, hold up. It was tough that first go out. But I will forever be grateful for the success, having a number one album, having a number one song, a song that represents the audience, that represents my name, O. Do people shout at you when they see you? All the time. There you go. Oh, I mean, like, because I've done it. Oh, yeah. What was it? The B-team win? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the Grammys. I did the Grammys. That sounds so science. Oh, you can't not. You can't not. Bro, when Icebox came out, you know, you fucked a whole bunch of people up. Come on. And you gave some dudes who had zero game too much game. Girl, I got an Icebox with me. Yeah, I'm just saying, bro. What can I say? You got to get cold, man. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. Where were you creating that? Where was that coming from? So shout out to Carey Hilson. It was my man, Zeke, who actually is the head over at Sony. And my boy, Jay. Jay was playing with some melodies and I was like, yo, I want to talk about something about an Icebox. That's what you said? Yeah. I want to talk about something like an Icebox. Something about an Icebox. My heart used to beat. Oh, and then he was like, I got this Icebox. And then Carey and Zeke, they came in on a second verse and it was history, man. You have new music now. Yup. And new music coming with B2K. Yup. But there is this like deep library of like- Straight up. Of sounds even. That's facts. Do you reference that in new music? Do you reference that feeling or are you like on a whole different- Yeah, nah. The specialness of my era, which truly represents nostalgia. What is nostalgia? Like if we just break down the compound of nostalgia, that's like feeling a feeling that you felt before in a new time. So I bring all of the nostalgia energy, all of my experiences, you know, those feels, those sounds. Like that's basically what O2 is. And I'm really proud. Part one is out. It's about seven records on there. And I mean completely. Complete vibes. I definitely bring all of that experience from back then until now. Yeah. It's got to feel, you got to feel something. When you put it on, you got to be like, "Hold up. What am I doing? Am I getting dressed? Am I chilling? Am I cleaning up?" Like, you know what I'm saying? Are you thinking about that stuff when you're creating? Of course. Of course. Like where are they in the day? When you're playing this? Yeah. Like, "Ooh, when they play this? Oh, okay. This is before they. As soon as they open the door, press play on this." And it's like, "Ooh, fantasy." You know what I'm saying? And it's like, "Ooh, ooh, ooh." I'm like, "Okay, yeah." I got another record called "Mood." You know what I mean? When you want to set the mood, you just put that on and you just start talking. It's a mood, baby. When I want to get motivated, then I put this song called "I Could Do It." I could do it, I could do it, I could do it, I could do it. So when I'm like, "Oh, okay. Hold up. What do I got to do?" "Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly." Little Afro beat vibe, you know what I'm saying? Right there. "A, A, E." So it's definitely songs on there for every mood. With that in mind, is there a world where there's like a you and Tyla situation? I would love that. I would love that. Right? I'm just saying. I feel like- We need to put that in there and make that happen. We need to make that happen because I know as far as performance, we would look really, really great together. And she's a dancer and it would be a dope video. I'm kind of into that. You back with the fellas. What was the first conversation like? Well, I will say there has been a lot of maturing. There's been a lot of maturity that has happened within the scope of our relationship. And I would really acknowledge that the most because we were kids when we were started. So it was really, truly up to us to honor that, to have those difficult conversations, had those man conversations like, "Yo, what's up bro?" You know what I'm saying? And I think in our own creative way, we understood the importance of us coming together. And I think it chose to truly honor that. I think we should honor that at this point in time in our lives and careers, because to be quite frank, we all could be doing different things. Right. But we understand as a collective, the importance of us coming back together and honoring what we built. Not the business, not, you know what I'm saying? Not all of the things that has came along with our relationship, like our relationship. So I think that we're all matured enough to be able to appreciate that. And I don't know that everybody was in a position to appreciate that journey together. Was there ever a time where it didn't look, where it looked like not all the fellas would return? Um, yeah. I mean the last, the 2019 tour, you know, Razzby didn't even make it through the whole tour. This last tour earlier this year, Razzby made it all the way through. So we definitely had a celebration for that. Like it's not easy. No. You know, we speak positively about our experience because it's something that we choose to do because we're those type of individuals, but it ain't easy to sit in a space with someone who, you know, you've been through, you know, ups and downs with, you're choosing to show respect and love and have that reverence. And that's what actually has made the music even better. Is that right? Yes. Our song "Mileage" is about to drop July the 17th. We got a video to it. Come on. Are we dancing in the music video? Of course. I just want to know. We got to. I'm just saying, cause some people's knees may not be what they used to be. You know, they got hips, you know, you gotta get a fish oil. Yeah. No, no, no. We got to get a fish oil. No, no, we, we youthful. We maintain our youth. We youthful. We maintain our youthfulness, you know what I'm saying? So we're able to perform and create those vibes. And the song "Mileage" just to speak about the song "Mileage", this is one of the things that B2K, we always had mature records, but we were in essence mature. Looking back, we were like, how were we singing this? Yeah. I want to manage you. Maybe this is the reason why I love you. So, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. I know that you want this. You hear me? Yeah. I'm just saying. You going to be my girlfriend? Okay. It's too good. So now we've caught up to that experience and now we have experience. And that's why the first song called "Mileage" is basically just letting the ladies know like, hey, you know what I'm saying? We actually prefer a car that got some miles on it. We, we, we appreciate experience now. Right. We don't care about your mileage. Right. We know you got some bodies on that coochie now. Don't be trying to lie. Okay? We'd have heard about you. But as long as you know I love you. He said, I like you, and I want you. Baby, don't be acting like if I ask you, you're going to tell me, yeah, this nigga, she ain't get it. We don't care about the mileage. Just be honest. Just be honest. That's it. That's it. Also, I think that's grown up. I'm just saying. We got to grow up. Come on. Let this be your message. I'm just saying. Go read a book. OK? It's time to get off TikTok. Spend some time with your damn self. Yeah. OK? Or go. But be honest. Shit. Damn. I appreciate that you are enjoying the meal. I'm going to say that. Cucumber, passion fruit. You hear me? Don't play with it. Maracuya. Maracuya. Aye. I was thinking about the time that y'all came out, right? And even the collaborators that early on in the process of the group, where they are now in their lives. Yeah. And how that must affect, or has it affected, how you look back at that time. Most definitely. Like, we're talking like some of the biggest names in the industry. Yeah. Their reality totally different than what we thought it was or what we were aware of back then. How do you as an artist, as a young man, who created sometimes alongside them look back at what you created together? Yeah. Does it affect how you value it, how you experience it now? Yeah, most definitely. I mean. There's a lot of people that we've worked with over, you know, the years that are in different positions nowadays. And it really does, it makes me hyper focus on the intention of, you know, putting positive things out there. But also realizing that there is another part to it. And because we live in a place where there is polarity, I think as an artist, I'm understanding more and more that it's really, truly important to represent yourself in a positive way. Yeah. Because if you don't, you know, and even if you do, you know what I mean, there's going to be adverse energy to, you know, come to you. You know, you could be the most peaceful person, but somebody going to say, you ain't peaceful. Right. You weren't peaceful when? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Oh, that's bullshit. Yeah. Like there's always going to be, you know, a group of people that just disagree with the way that you live. Yeah. I would say, again, to reiterate that the importance of just being intentional and being kind and respectful to people. Yeah. I think that that really, truly matters. But you got to protect yourself and you really got to, you know, more than ever. Do you have the kind of awareness where you are? You know, maybe thankful that you were, that was not your experience. Yeah. Right. That you, or that you weren't thrust into those kinds of scenarios. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. And it also made me think about how certain people in certain positions nowadays have blessed people. Yeah. And how, you know, sometimes, like you just said, your experience is not that experience that other people have had with that person. But then how do you, because I would have, for me, it's like. Like, you know, one of the things I learned in therapy is that two things can be true. Yes. At once. And whether it is your experience or someone else's experience, they both can be true. And we have to hold space. We have to respect both. Yeah. Because they're both realities. That's fact. And it's like, I would imagine it's, that's hard to do. It's tough. And then also most people don't take account for some of the other things that are happening, like in the background, you know, the fine details that. You know, really separate the situation, you know, as far as accountability and the justice system. Right. And how that functions, you know, when it comes to our people, you know what I mean? Yeah. And you have to take into account all of that stuff and you have to protect yourself. I've always wondered that because, like, you know, I was thinking about this, even with actors and stuff like that through, you know, the things that happen in Hollywood. Yeah. How do you look at a movie you created. Right. And like, fuck, that's now. Now that has that flavor on it, now it has that kind of that, that vibration on it. Yeah. Yeah. You can't pretend it isn't, it isn't. That's facts. Yeah. I just wondered if you do. Yeah, man, I do all the time. Yeah. And I've, I've, you know, wrestled with, you know, two schools of thoughts, you know, and that is, is that, you know, certain things that were done for me really, truly catapult me into, so I honor that. But then on the flip side, I also honor that other part where it's just like, well, I wouldn't accept that from anybody. And that's not okay. And that's not cool. Right. Like, what the fuck? I, I try to be balanced in my perspective and also in my understanding, you know, within that because still at the end of the day, you know, that's somebody's mother or, or cousin or, or family member or, you know what I mean? Support system, you know what I mean? Yeah, yes, yes. So, so I try to do my best job at just being real honest and a, a, a straight cut when it comes to understanding when people go through things and how they're being held accountable. Yeah. And that accountability is key. Big time. Key. You know, if you do some shit, consequences. This is what it is. Life is about them. Life is about choices. I had a white friend who asked me if they could say nigga. That's funny. And I said, yeah, oh my God, say it, say it all the time. But when you get your ass beat, know that it's because you said that. Right. We live in America. You could say, well, you could do what you want to do. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But consequences. That's fact. Just be prepared for that. That's it. And it might be me. Right, right, right. So say it. Say it. But it did, it did happen. So I think it was a, I'm just testing the waters here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, yeah, no, those waters are hot. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. You know, live your life. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But you gonna get your ass beat. Yeah, and see, it's little stuff like that. Like the, I guess the gripe that people have with taking accountability. Yeah. For their actions. For their actions. And at the end of the day, when you are a grown person, you understand, when you putting that energy out there, whatever come with that, you have to accept it. You gotta accept it. So as long as you can accept it, play on, play on. But. But, right, right. He's not said it. Yeah. Speaking of play. Yeah. You ready to play a game? Yeah, come on, let's get it. Should we do it? Let's get it, let's get it, let's get it. But hold on, this food, I want to, I want to finish it. Yes, yes. Come on, brother. Normally, we'd have like a whole bunch of, it'd be hot as hell right now. Right, right, right. So thankfully, I think, you know, the little cloud cover, you know, we can keep it cool. We on the cool tip. The cool tip. We cool it, we cool it. Okay, so this game is one we're calling Big Words Only. Okay. We're gonna get 60 seconds on the clock and then we're gonna get a first letter and a last letter. We gotta come up with words that. Fit. Okay. The biggest word wins. All right, let's get it. So big word energy, you know, is what you're gonna need right now. Facts, facts. Okay, here we go. First one. Believe. Believe. It's hard when you gotta fill in all of the words. Bethel. Brave. Okay. Bizarre. Ooh. Ah, shit. Brr. Brr. Brr. Banana. Breathe. Breathe. Breathe is good. Baritone. Ooh. Swag. Hey. Hey. Okay. I'm gonna go with the first one. Um. Damn. Bah. To the situation then. I panicked. Damn. Okay. Looks like I got the one. You got that one. All right. You got that one. You got that one. Baritone. Baritone came in. Okay. Yeah. Baritone was good. I got a color. Right. All right. All right. Here we go. Cunty. Cynical. E. I mean, Cayman. Because of the Y in the end, that's telling me off. City girl. That should be admitted to Kayla. Sick. Koi. Care-a-way. Cray- No. Cry. Cry. Cry. Cries. Cries. Carry. Okay. C-Y. Camry. Oh, that's a good one. How many letters, though? Coyote. No, no. That's the E at the end. Karate. Omarion got that one. Yeah, let's go. Woo-hoo. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Care-a-way wasn't enough letters. Oh, God. Next one, let's go. Frog. Fog. F-f-f-f-f-f-frog. - 'Cause. - Frugal. - No. - I only have one. Fang, fang. - Ah, damn. - Fang. Set, set, set up. - Ah, an English cigarette, also known as a fag. - Oh, I see what you did there. - Yeah. - Fig. - Fringe. - Fringe. - Fringe. - That's a G. - E. - Oh, damn. - Fucking. - Fuckin'. - Fuckin'. - I don't ever say fuckin' with a G. I didn't even think of that. I'd be like, fuckin'. - Fuckin'. - Yeah. - So I guess nobody won that. I'm gonna take that. Yeah, thanks, you. - What? - Thank you. I'm gonna take that one. Fuckin' around. - Fuckin' around. - Okay, here we go. Militant. - Ooh. - Meteorite. - Um. - Minu. - Damn. - Mint. - Min. - Minty. - A-tent. - Mint. - Mint. - Mint. - Um. - Me. - Mo. - Mo. - Mo. - Mo. - Mo. - Mutant. - Mutant. - Mutant. - Brr. - Brr. - Brr. - Me. - Men. - Menis. - Maleficent. - Maleficent. - Maleficent. - Oh, yeah. Top that shit. - Damn. - Mm. - Mm. - Mortarted. - Tid. - Mort. - Mort. - Mort. - Damn. He said. - Do y'all remember that video? - Damn. - Sausage. - Sausage. - Yeah. - Butter crisis. - Nevermind. - Menistrate. - I think I got that. What do you say? - Monistat. - No. - It's too late. - But it would've been a good one. - Yeah, yeah, he got that one. - It would've been a good one. - I think I got that one. - Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and take that. - Hold on, hold on, wait, wait. That's the one I took. - Yeah, yeah, nah, it's cool. - Oh, it's cool, it's cool. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause it's gonna be the last color wins. - Okay, okay. - Right. - Presser. - Pourer. - Purveyor. - Pointer. - Pointlesser. - Pin. - Fine. - Panorama. That's gotta be a word. Panorama? - I don't think so. Panoramic. - Ah. How about-- - Particular. - Practitioner. - Ah. Party-goer. - I don't know. I panicked. - I panicked. I panicked. I panicked. That was the name of my character on Power. - Oh, what? - I was party-goer. - Oh. - I was party-goer. - It's one word. Party-goer. Just sayin'. - So who won that one? - Okay. - Hey! - Okay, we don't have to scream it. - Another one for the O. - Okay, all right. - Words are hard. - Thank you. - Okay. - Hoitent. - Hot. - Hottest. - Oh, that's E. - Hot. - Hort. - Hot. - Hortificest. - Hortificest. - Hortificest. - Ho. - Ho. - Ho. - Hr. - Hr. - Hr. - Oh. - Heart. - - Haven't. - Haven't. - Have. - Have. - Uh. - Haven't. - Don't. - Him. - Hesitate. - Hesitate. - Hem it. - Hesitate it. - Hesitate it. - Oh. - He. - Hematite. - Oh. - Hender. - Ha. - Ha. - Hoss. - Herm. - Hermediate. - Herm. - Herm. - It's like when you have a, the act of having a hemorrhoid. - It's a hermitiate. - Oh. - Hr. - Hr. - H. - Hes. - Hesitate. - Hack attack. - Hack attack. - Do we say hesitate? - Oh, it's the, it's the E. - Damn. - Let's go. - What was the word? - One more to go. - I said one longer than heart. Hottest was seven. - You said it's hottest? - Hottest is my second word. - I missed that. - Yeah, I know. That's why I won. - Oh, okay, okay. Damn. - All right. - Thank you. Woo! I'm awake now. - Um. - Aviation. - Anticipation. - All in unison. - Uh, iton, uh, uh. - Automaton. - Anatomy. Nym. - Animation. - Oh. - Yeah. - Uh, affirmation. - Uh. - Alliteration. - Uh. - Annihilation. - Uh. - Uh. - Obliteration. - Uh, uh. - Oh. - Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. - Orontogadation. - Antihistamine. - Oh! - Get the fuck out of here. - Antihistamine? Antihistamine? - Arachnosaurus. - Nym. - Nym. - Nah. - Uh, uh, uh, er, er. - Aerodynamin. - Uh, uh, aerodynamin. - Aerodinamicism. - Nym. - Right. - All right, who I know. - It's clearly aerodynamicism. - Nym. - Damn, antihistamine is crazy. That's is with a E. Does, is histamine with a E? - It might, it might. - It does have an E. - But, but, but I said annihilation. - Anticipation and alliteration have the same amount of letters. - We still in a tie? So histamine, histamine got a, histamine got a E? - Yes, E, yes, E. - Whoo, Jesus was looking out for me. Sirenia gets you every time. - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, um. - Vinyl, veal, verital. - Veal. - Vaginal. - Vowel. - Um. - Variable, is a E. - Vertical. - Velocital. - That's not a word, sorry, that sounds crazy. - Veal. - Va-ton-louis. - Um. - Not your ass, it's gonna try to make it. - Yeah, um, valule. - Virgil. - Veal. - Oh, we probably shouldn't do names, 'cause then we can just make shit up. - Vigil. Damn, who in that one? - Rude. - Damn, man. - So Vaginal takes it? - Oh, man. - Damn, that's. - Which is kind of fitting for much of our conversation today. - I know, why didn't I pick that one? Oh, my shit. - You said veal. - Man. - You don't even eat meat. - So don't. - Okay, so that's me. - Damn. - Yeah, go ahead and take that one. - Okay. - Okay. - Next one. Joy. - Jolly. - Ger-er. - Juicy. - Joana, man. - Sorry. - Jambalaya. Oh, no, that's with an A. Joloff. No. Jolly. You said jolly, right? - You said jolly. - Okay, jolly. - Jo. - Um. - Jo. - Jo. - Jon. - Um. - I can't. Jingerly. Oh, that's a J. - Um. - Janky. - Oh, that's a J. - Oh, that's a J. - Oh, that's a J. - Oh. - Janky is right. - Janky. - Janky. Um. - - How about. - Gingerly. Oh, I said that wrong. - Justicy. Uh. - Juxtaposy. Justifiably. Woo! Woo! - No, that was crazy. - Justifiably. Yes! - Damn. Yeah, I ain't gonna win that one. - Hoo, hoo, hoo. That's it? - Justifiably. - Yeah, justifiably. Yeah. - A blee. - Yeah. - I wasn't thinking of a bleeze. - Yeah. You gotta get in the bleeze, man. - Yeah, that was damn. - You gotta get in the bleeze, man. - This is crazy. - I'm about to lose. - Woo! Oh! - No, I got to come on back. I got to come on back. - Okay, here we go. - Back. - B2K. - Oh! That is good. - Um. - Um. - Buh. - Buh. - Book. - Breaking. - Bunk. - Bulk. - BK Fish. - What? - Brian McKnight. - Yeah. Brick. - Brick. - British. Knights. It got a K in it. - Is it? Is it got a K in it? - Silent. - Breaking. - Break? - No. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Break. - Bunk. - Yeah. That's it. Why can't I think of another? Why can't you think of? - Bacon. it's been a long time since you had it yeah yeah i know i think you got that one i don't remember it's a time okay next one all right galactic oh galactic that wore me out okay galactic like that's all my body is like that's all you got damn genetic genomic genomic okay generic ah geographic wait a minute that was a good one that one what was that oh that was a win for oh that's what that was you take your little funky cut you know what i'm saying let me get mine let me get hold up i'm coming back okay here we go damn it i mean uh damn damn them the mean oh um damn der demolish dictate them um scrabble drum um dramatic um drama drama no drama dram you passed it's a drum when you when you used to drum i'm not a percussionist but i'm pretty sure if you used to drum you dram drillistic i couldn't even think of one durham um Who said dictatum? It's a word? Yeah. That's a word? Shut up. I ain't know that. Dictatum? Oh! No, that's crazy. That's a technicality. Dictatum is crazy. All right, all right, all right. I'll be honest with you. Yeah, yeah. That surprised me. Yeah, that felt like a stretch, but it was a good stretch. You got a stretch. Odell Beckham. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes it's a Bellingham. Right, right. You know, World Cup. You got to. Wow. Okay. Would you look at that? Only blues. I guess it really only means one thing. Damn, I lost, man. That was a good game. Oh, it was a good game! That was so much fun. Appreciate you, man. Thank you so much for coming out, bro. Yes, sir. This was incredible. Is there anything we didn't talk about that you wanted to get to? No, I definitely want to encourage people to check out O2. Yeah. My new album, Part One, is out for all of the ear candy lovers. I know that's right. Let me see the ear candy going on. I got a TV show called. It's called The Wild Rose. I'm definitely back in my acting bag. Yes. You guys can check that out on Amazon Prime, or you can check it out on All Black. Let's go. New B2K song coming out July 17th. It's called Mileage. Ladies, tap in. Yes, indeed. What about GPS? You might as well. GPS coming real soon, okay? Siri, what's the direction to the Gucci? How do you get there the fastest? You turn. You turn. Bro. Thank you, man. It's so good, man. Thank you, man. I had so much fun. Yes, sir. Let me get this Agua Fresca on. Come on. Let's get it. What are the GPS directions to the Gucci? Hey, neighbor. Our house guest is on the way, the way, the way, the way. A little bit of laughter, a lot of smiles. Won't you come in and stay a while? Hey, neighbor. Hey, neighbor. Yeah.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Omarion shares his journey from B2K to a successful solo career, emphasizing growth, maturity, and the importance of group support in his artistic evolution.
  2. He advocates for personal autonomy in relationships, believing monogamy or open relationships should be individual choices rooted in mutual respect and honesty, not societal expectations.
  3. Omarion reflects on pivotal experiences, such as meeting Michael Jackson, which deeply influenced his sense of reverence and professional identity, and highlights how early exposure to music shaped his career path.

Summary:

Omarion reflects on his journey from being part of the group B2K to establishing a successful solo career, emphasizing personal growth, maturity, and the importance of mutual support in both music and relationships. He shares how early experiences—such as meeting Michael Jackson—deepened his professional identity and sense of purpose. Omarion champions individual autonomy in romantic relationships, arguing that monogamy or open relationships should be personal choices grounded in honesty and respect, not rigid societal norms.

He acknowledges the emotional complexity of navigating fame, money, and relationships, particularly during formative years, and stresses the importance of self-awareness, integrity, and emotional boundaries. Drawing from his own experiences, he highlights how personal values, such as veganism and self-care, reflect his broader commitment to authenticity. He also touches on the emotional and cultural impact of music, noting how nostalgia and shared experiences shape his creative work and connection with fans.

Ultimately, Omarion emphasizes the need for balance—honoring past successes while remaining grounded in personal truth, self-respect, and emotional maturity. His reflections on relationships, music, and identity underscore a philosophy of growth, choice, and authenticity that defines both his career and personal life.

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Omarion transitioned from a pescatarian diet to veganism after completing a 30-day parasite cleanse, which eliminated his cravings for meat and seafood like lobster or crab.

Omarion means 'God's gift' in Swahili. He was dubbed the name by Ruckus from the group the Wild Kingdom, combining 'O' for 'om' (a universal frequency) and 'marion' for 'gift'.

Omarion believes both open and monogamous relationships can be positive, but emphasizes that love should be a personal choice, not a confined concept, and that honesty and mutual respect are essential.

Omarion enjoys a passion fruit and cucumber drink with a touch of coconut water and a little salt, which he calls 'swag' because of its refreshing taste.

Michael Jackson bowed as a sign of respect, which deeply moved Omarion. This moment was a significant and memorable experience for Omarion, especially since he was young and unfamiliar with such gestures in Japan.

Omarion believes love is a personal journey and a business of trust, requiring honesty, awareness, and mutual respect—especially in how partners express themselves and maintain boundaries.

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