"Olivia Wilde"

Hi, I'm Olivia Wilde. I somehow got talked into being on SmartLess, so I don't know. This is a disaster. Welcome to SmartLess. SmartLess. So, Sean, are those new specs? Oh, yeah. Do you like them? Yeah. No, sorry. I do like them. I'm sorry. You said that so quickly. No, I do. Yeah, look. I do. They're nice. Wait, who made the clear horn-rimmed frames famous? I feel like it was like a Ted McGinley or one of those handsome fellows. You're welcome. I think I did. Andy Richter. Oh, Andy Richter wears them. Andy's always worn them. Yeah, for a long time. What did I just see? Andy Richter is in SmartLess. In SmartLess. In SmartLess. He's an obsession. Obsession, yes. Yeah. Yeah, he was great. I love Andy. Can I just say that just as a general rule? Well, we all do. I know. What's not to love? He's so fucking funny. Yeah, he is funny. Well, then you can take the surprise out of your voice. No. I'm not surprised, but you have those moments where you just think about somebody and you go, God, Andy. God, we used to have so much. Remember we used to play cards with Andy? He's still alive. Yeah. No, I know. I'm just saying, remember we used to play cards all the time back in the day. Yeah. I know. With Kyle Grass. Yeah, with Kyle. I remember Andy one time at my old place in Venice. Remember when he came down the stairs and he had somebody, Giles had brought like fudge or something, and Andy came down and he had, there was fudge all around his mouth. Yeah. Uh-oh. And he's like, hey, I couldn't find the fudge. I couldn't find the fudge. I couldn't find the fudge and it was all around his mouth. He was like, it wasn't anywhere. I couldn't find it anywhere. Yeah. Jay, what did you think about Obsession? Wasn't it a good movie? Yeah, I really liked it. Now, is that what you were watching with my wife the other day? I was watching it with your wife in your house and you weren't there. I was so jealous. It was just me and her. Oh. Let me just check my phone. Scotty was there too. And Scotty was there, yeah. Let me just see if I, I must have gotten it. You're going to pay for that. I know. You will pay for that one. I will pay for that one. No. You're going to text the guys after this session. You're going to say, hey guys, would you trim out the little spot where I totally forgot that Scott was sitting next to me? Wait, Jason, you just nodded to somebody. Is that somebody making you excited? sandwich or something. Ew. Very close. Oh, ew. Who's there? Thanks, Morgan. Who's Morgan? Morgan is my incredible partner here in. JP. Oh, you've got a partner now. Look at you. Yeah. Now, I have two partners here. I don't like to say assistants. Good for you. Because I like to stay relatable. Sure. But you know who is assisting my assistant here? Who's that? Franny. Francesca Nora Bateman. Is she there right now? She is. Ah, tell her we say hello. Want to see her? Yeah, let's see her. There she is out there in the production office. Can you see her? Look at that. Oh, yeah, look at that. Look at her. You're just in some lonely office. You know, by the way, you know who stays relatable? People who don't say I want to stay relatable. Because they don't have to curate it. My insincerity is bleeding through. Yeah, man. What is the sandwich that you got, though? Are you going to dig into it? I don't know. Should we just push forward? We don't talk about your NetJets or. Let's go past that. We'll go past that. Or your Long Island second home. God. Let's talk about NetJets. There's Scotty. Oh, look at Scotty. Don't try to make up for it now, Sean. Oh, Scotty, he's doing pray hands. By the way, it's easy travel. You know, you call and then they're there and then they get you from where you need to go. It's NetJets. You should try OneFlight. OneFlight's a better service. OneFlight. OneFlight. Guys, this is disgusting. It's so gross, guys. Let's not cut it, though. Um, so. So, Sean, now, Sean, what did Scotty bring you? Is that just a bowl of mixed Pop-Tarts? It's warm milk. It's tea. It's tea with sugar and cream. Sugar and cream. What kind of, um. Even with the tea, you can't take your foot off the gas, huh? Even the tea. I think it's artificial sweetener today. What kind of tea are we having? Just regular English breakfast tea. Okay. Okay. Oh, there's a cake lady coming, though. Remember the cake lady? Well, this is not a surprise. Yeah, but yes, I do remember. So, Jay. I don't remember. What do you mean, cake? He's got a woman who. I've used her. She's amazing. She's great. And she'll make any cake you want. What do you mean, you've used her? What are you talking about? For one of the kids' birthdays. Yeah, we call her. Her name is Cake Lady, but she has a real name. Well, let's pull the relatable bus over to the side for a second. No, she's like 10 bucks a cake. You don't go down to the fucking store and buy a cake? No, she's like 10 bucks and she delivers it. Yeah. She makes it, and she'll deliver it to your house, and it's the best cake you've ever had. Because it's such a drag to go to a store and put some time in to buy your child. By the way, if anybody gets a sighting of JB at a store, please take a pic. Please, snap a pic of JB at a store. And post it. Let me tell you, I went to Whole Foods down at. There are a few things that I like better than pushing a cart aisle by aisle by aisle and taking about three hours to do 10 minutes of shopping. An aisle under the heading of things that never fucking happen. I do love a good market session. When was the last time? I mean, the last time I was in. Actually, what, two days ago. I had to run down the street to get me and my assistant's assistant some dinner. Do you go to Whole Foods? No, I went to this. No, this place that is. Oh, I know that upscale marketplace. Yeah, Meadow Lane, right? Yeah, Meadow Lane. By the way, that place, you talk about relatable. That's like the most expensive market in Trinidad. But hang on, but it's so convenient. It's just down the way. And it's so nice. It's so aesthetically nice. What's it called? It's called Meadow Lane. It's sort of. Sean. It's the rich man's air wand. Which is redundant. It's very small, but it's incredible. It's nice. I don't mean to disparage the place. It's very nice. I know, but they've got to come down on prices. It's going to go out of business. You can't charge $25 for a prepackaged chicken, Chinese, whatever salad thing. Wait, do you know what air wand backwards is? Yeah, man. Nowhere? Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Okay, our next guest, guys. Today's guest. Hey, if you fold a dollar bill into three things, then you'll be able to see that there's a message. Hey, you know what Moorpark is backwards? Moorpark, you know the street in the valley? Sure. Yeah. Well, tell me. Crap room? It's crap room. Crap room, yeah. Wow. God, my 14-year-old's going to love that. That's. Right? Because she goes to school near there. Okay, thanks for bringing us down. Guys, sitting and chatting with us today is pure sunshine on feet. This actor-director is a woman I have had the deep pleasure of working with twice. Wow. As an actor, she has done fantastic work in both comedy and drama, in film, stage, and TV. As a director. She's one of the most exciting and sought-after new voices today. And having already done three films, which no doubt there will be more, as many more as she wants, as she wishes. She's a true friend. Olivia Wilde. A real. Reveal yourself, Olivia. Is it really? And today, your tasty ear meal here. I knew it. I knew it. is Olivia Wilde. How in the world did you get that, Will? Will! Will, how did you get that? Because she's one of the most sought-after directors ever. Oh, of course. Come on, of course. That's an easy. That's a layup. I think you could hear my. It's heavy breathing. I think that's. Was that your small dog? Screaming in the background? That was the last part of the intro, Jason. It says, known for her heavy breathing, right? Wild! Olivia, welcome to the show. Welcome, yes. This is great. I feel like it's long overdue. Can we have trouble making your deal or something? Oh, my God, is this overdue? What? Well, everyone. I finally did every other podcast, and this was it. No. No. You saved the best for last in this world, right? That's true. This is so exciting. Sitting here spying on you guys is a really weird, thrilling feeling. Yeah. I apologize for all the coffee chat. All our trash. It's so great. I want 45 minutes of that and three of me and then. Well, you're in. Guess what? Yeah, here it comes. It doesn't get any better. We're not going to let you talk at all. Yeah, our favorite is to ask you a question and then tell you what our answer is for that question, and then whatever time remains, you can talk. Oh, I know. I'm a long-time listener. Come on. Are you? Come on. Big fan. Who's your favorite? Yeah, of course. You're my favorite because you brought me on. Will didn't, even though Will and I just worked together. We did. Oh, you did? We did. That's right. Did you guys have scenes together? We did. Really? Yeah. Pivotal. Pivotal scene. That sounds like a lot. Pivotal scene. We don't want to say too much. We can't say so much. Let's go ahead. Let's start with that. Let's tell them about your film coming out, y'all. We're in a film called Behemoth. Sounds big. I'll say. It's Behemoth and directed by. Tony Gilroy, the great Tony Gilroy, the coolest is the coolest. guy of all time. Hey, Will, why don't you try to book him, huh? Yeah, why don't we get him on? I'd love to have him. I am going to get Tony. I am going to get him. Will you? You have to. Oh, my God. Dude, dude. I'll fan all of that guy. By the way, listener, please look Tony Gilroy up and you'll be amazed at just his credits alone. He's just incredible. Michael Clayton, his first film somehow, which is bananas. The first film that he directed. Yeah, that he directed. He's an incredible writer, but that's a perfect movie. You get to Robert Elswit to be the DP on that right out of the gate. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's like Citizen Kane. He's like, how about this? I'll try this job and it's perfect, but he's so cool and so chill and he makes it look so easy. I was just entirely obsessed with him and his wife. He's got a real cool thing, like you and Amanda, Jason. He's like that. They're like just cool and obsessed with each other. Amanda's cool. Yeah, Amanda's cool. She's got, she carries a cool for both of us. Yeah. Yeah, the great Tony Gilroy. God, we love him. We love him. I will say, can I tell you something funny, Olivia? It happened to me last week. I want to listen. Let me listen. No, this is for us. So I had dinner with Tony like two weeks ago here in LA. Did you talk about reshooting your stuff? That's weird. I was here, but anyway, keep going. We just got together and we split the bill, so we both put our cards down when we signed the thing or whatever, and we split. Surprised he got half out of you. A couple days later, a couple days later, no, I did go through and be like, I kept going, you had two drinks, right? You had, because I didn't touch Who had the French fries? If I'm looking at the dessert, like I never even touched it. And so then, and then a couple days later, I go shopping to buy a few new items to get some clothes and the bill was pretty hefty and I give him the card and the guy gets it back and he hands me the card back and I'm talking to my friend and I look down and it says Tony Gilroy on the card. Tony Gilroy, yeah. So I go, and then I text him, I go, hey man, so, oh listen, you're about to get a big charge. Thanks for the tops. And so he goes, oh shit. And he goes, I'm going back to New York. He goes, all right, I'll come over and grab it from you. I'm right around the corner. And he goes, he goes, I don't, I'm trying to think if I bought anything in the last couple of days and there's a pause in the text and he goes, the only thing I thought, I think I bought, embarrassingly enough, are mothballs. What? And I go, That's relatable. So anyway. He's got some, this guy's got a lot of cashmere. He's got to protect it. He does, he does. A lot of cashmere. He's stylish. I bet he creeps in cashmere. Yeah, he sure is. But this movie is starring Pedro Pascal and I have no idea when it comes out, but it's going to be so good because there are at least seven composers on that film. It's a film about music and Pedro plays a cellist and you also play a musician. Yes. Did you get to play music in the movie? No. You didn't. I'm kind of. I read it. I think I read it. I read my scenes. No, I read it. You thought it was about. What instrument did they say your character played, Will? They just said it's just a bunch. He's just kind of like an all-around kind of. Whatever's available? Yeah, and he's a dude who kind of, often like, I don't know if you're catching my 10,000 yard stare, he's kind of a guy who's got a lot going on inside, you know. I love when you wet the reed. Hopefully it's some sort of wind instrument. And let the spit out. Yeah, yeah. So, Shirley, it's about, it's about, it's about conductors? Composers? Sort of, right? Yeah, and like film composition, like music for a film. And it's kind of a love letter to that world and they show that process which is so cool. Yeah. That's cool. Wow, yeah, that is something that your average moviegoer does not get a chance to learn about that much. Yeah, exactly. It's fascinating. It's really, really fascinating kind of getting in and out of them, the people who inhabit that world and what they are and, you know, and some of them are just the most brilliant. And Will plays Pedro's brother. Yeah. Put that together in your head. Wow. Make that make sense. And it does because you're that good. It was the tan. It's the tan that you currently have. That is why he's still wearing all the makeup. Thank you. There is no way. You guys. All right, well, let's talk about me like I'm not here. No. He's good. All right, so we've got, we started at the end. Let's go back to the beginning. To the beginning. Hey, Libby. 1942. I don't think I've ever called you Libby. Now, this has gotten some press before and I apologize to ask you about it. But here we go. But maybe some of our listeners haven't discussed it. Right away. Buckle up. But it's cute. I like it. You had to change your name, didn't you, doll? I, you know, I didn't have to. I chose to. Well, you kind of had to. Let's walk the audience through the original name. Oh, yeah. I don't know this. What's the original name? Yeah, it's fun. It's real fun. But it's, it's fun. But it's, but it's, it's got some real lineage to it, too. So go ahead here, guest. You talk. Okay, thank you so much. I was born with a different name. Oh. My family name is actually Coburn, but it's pronounced Coburn, but it's spelled, and I'm going to, I weirdly have a visual for this. No, listener, you won't get it, but it's for these guys. But my last name is Oh, wow. Cockburn. Cockburn. Sean, you were just talking about Cockburn like two days ago. Yeah, that is, that's. Right? Because didn't, were you saying By the way, I'm still talking about it. When are you not talking about it? I forget, but particularly it was behind a dumpster. Anyway, whatever. You got a real case of the Cockburn. I mean, if anybody has any ointment or anything, let me know. Wait, it's really pronounced Coburn? It's, okay, but this is the thing. That's not unusual. In Scotland, it is pronounced Coburn. I've never expected anyone in my life to ever be able to get that, to predict that. C-O-C-K, by the way, so people can say. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. C-O-C-K-B-U-R-N. Cockburn. Very literally how you would imagine it being spelled. And it's a name to grow up with to build character. You know, it's a boy named Sue. And it, yeah, my family are all amazing writers and journalists and just badass people. And that book you just held up, is that somebody from your family? Yeah, my sweet assistant has built this little tower for the microphone and she happened to use all of these books that are written by my family just to intimidate me. That's amazing. To remind me I haven't done shit in my life and they're very impressive. That's not true. But they're all amazing, yeah. Well then, but so, A, how early did you change the name and B, you landed on Wild because of your affinity for? Oscar. Wow. Oh, wow. Yes. And so I changed it when I was 18. I, right when you legally can, if you can believe it. But hang on, but you went through the toughest teasing years with that name. Oh, yeah. How'd that go? I think it's, I truly think it's good for you. I think, I think that everyone should be given one really devastating part of their name. Just so you, I was just talking to Dax about this because he also, he, this was also where he wanted to start. He was like, I'm gonna start. Yeah, well, we are a child of that podcast. That's true. I've never spoken to Dax about his name. What do we know about, what do we know about Dax's first name? It's actually Cockburn. Yeah. But like, what is, what is Dax? Dax is actually his name. No, I think it's Dax. No, he's born Dax, right? I forget why his mom. Daxel. What was the deal with that? Daxel. Isn't that weird? I've never asked him about that. Daxel. Daxel. I have, and I forget. Daxel. So, wait a minute, Olivia, so, so did you, so, when you, so 18, why 18? Because, so you wanted to change it forever. Well, no, I'm, you know, I, I moved out here. I came right from boarding school. I came right to LA and I was a casting assistant and I was doing, I was going to auditions and I was like, I want to forge my own path and I had, I wanted to change my name and, I had, like, great affinity for other people who had done that. I thought it was really cool when other people had done that and I was like, I don't know, what would I do? And I, the first play I did that I really loved was The Importance of Being Earnest and then I read everything that Oscar Wilde wrote and I just became obsessed with him and he's Irish, my family's Irish, so that's how it happened. Yeah, it's such a great name. Yeah, I didn't think it would be interpreted so, like, pornographically. Like, the first 10 years of my career, every, headline, every magazine was just like, get wild, like, born to be wild, wet and wild. And I was like, oh, fuck, I didn't really, I didn't really think this through. Could use a little cock burn right now. She kept it as a middle name. I did, yeah. No. Wait, but what about being an assistant casting director? Was that, now, I would imagine that would have given you some comfort as you started auditioning that you'd kind of been on the other side of it and you kind of, was it, was it less intimidating? It, you know, I did it because Keener had done it. I was obsessed with Catherine Keener and she had done it. Catherine Keener. And it's not something most casting directors will let you do. Like, they don't usually hire wannabe actors because it's like dangerous. You have little spies in the office. Yeah. But I worked for Mally Finn. Do you guys remember Mally? Did you ever audition? Oh, yeah. She was a legend. And so, I worked for her first when I was 16 and then when I was 18. So, when I was 16, I did it for a summer and then she let me come back at 18 and have a real job. And I worked there for almost a year. It was wild. I really saw how the sausage was made. So were you outside like in the sort of reception area and watching everyone practice their faces and mop their brow? Oh my God. And it was so many people I later worked with and I was like, I've seen you in another light when you're mad at me because it's taking too long and parking is annoying and you're late and you want coffee. We'll be right back. All right, back to the show. Did it help you at all like understand the audition process? Like did you feel like it gave you a leg up? Yeah. Also, she had crazy high standards. So she would not accept anybody unprepared or not off book. Like she would stop people and say, why don't you come back when you've done the work? And I loved that it gave me this sense of like, you better be really prepared. Like I never have gone to an audition without being prepared. But she had crazy stories. And the thing that I love is that while I was working there, there was like this great legend. Hang on, let me drink my coffee because. Go ahead, we'll pause. This is what the editing is for. Just shim it right out. It's going to be smooth as silk. Oh yeah. So while I was working there, there was like the legend of the Sam Rockwell audition. And it was like, she would tell us like, the best audition I've ever seen was Sam Rockwell auditioning for the Green Mile. Jason's directing him right now. Let me tell you this. And please repeat this to him at work today. So she said, he came in and it was the last day of the director's sessions, the last possible day you could audition. And he came in and he had been given the wrong scenes. And this man, Sam Rockwell, he didn't even pause. He said, well, give me the correct scenes and I'll go learn them really quickly. And they said, that's impossible, Sam. It's 10 pages of dialogue. You can't possibly, no one could do it. And he was like, just give me a chance. I don't want to miss this opportunity. So they gave him the right scenes. He goes into the hallway. They only had like, five minutes to give him to learn the lines. He comes back in and he nails it. And they were floored and he got the role. And she said, that, that's an actor who can work that quickly. So years later, I'm working with Sam and I'm sitting next to him in the makeup chair. And I was like, Sam, it's so nice to meet you. What an honor. I have to tell you, I always heard this story when I was an assistant and it just really inspired me. And he goes, oh, oh yeah. That was like a thing I used to do. That worked every day. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Oh, that's great. I have been brilliant. So like he, he, I thought that this, he, I revered his ability to like flash memorize. He knew he had the correct size. It was a whole performance. So it's so genius because it lowers their expectations. Then if you even like say half the things, right. They're like, God damn, this man learned this in five minutes. He's a crafty bugger. He's a real operator of that rock and roll. Absolutely. And the way it's so standing, he's like, oh yeah. That was just like a thing I used to do. Oh yeah. And I was like, wow, he deserves an Oscar. I did. I don't know if I told this before, but we can cut this out if it's boring. Already too boring? No, no, we're good. Sean, cut, pre-cut, pre-cut. So I went to go audition for the bucket list with the brilliant Rob Reiner, rest his soul. He was amazing. And he, you know, he was like, and I walk in and I had the wrong sides, right? I'd worked on it for a long time. And I walked in and I had all, like it wasn't even slightly wrong. It was completely, they rewrote all these scenes. And I started auditioning with the scene. And he's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, these are, who gave you these sides? Like am I agent? He's like, no, there's a whole new script. And he's like, I'm like, I didn't know that. I go, great. Then let me come back a week later and I'll go work on them. So I work on them and I had this bit already. And I walk in and it's just me and Rob and like a producer. He's a couple of producers and a cast director. And I was like, you ready? He's like, yeah. And then I started going, why did you order so bad? Like the worst acting you've ever seen on purpose. I go, why did you order the code red? I didn't tell you to order the code red. You want the truth. You can't handle the truth. No, no. And I stopped and he's laughing and I go, did I get the wrong side? That's really great. I started doing the scene from A Few Good Men. That's so good. Did he give you the part? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, of course. Nice. Very nice. So now, Olivia, now that you're on the other side of the table in these auditions as you're directing these things, are you incredibly more compassionate? Yes. And I take like 12 hours per session because I'm like, you go. I want to hear it all. Even if I know from the first moment that it's not going to be them, I'm like, this is your time. And it's a disaster for everyone else because I will milk it. It's so good. It's so hard. Auditioning is a fucking nightmare. And these people, they come and it's so vulnerable. And yeah, being on that side definitely made me a little kinder. But there's so much more also self-taping now, right? It's all self-tape, isn't it? Oh, yeah. That part seems fantastic, right? Where you can just record your audition. Yeah, then the pressure's off. I like the room. I like the room. Yeah. What if you don't do well? What if you forget your lines? With the self-tapes, you don't send it until you're happy with it. But you overthink it. And I bet you don't. I mean, can you imagine how much, the overthinking? And also, what I find is when people send me tapes, they've overthought the framing, the lighting. People have full setups now. And I'm like, you don't need that. I'd rather have someone's like shitty iPhone selfie video in their car on the way to their real job than like a full setup. I'm like, you didn't have to do that for me. I don't need all this. But Olivia, what made you, how did you know that you wanted to just move to Los Angeles and work in a casting director's office? Well, truly, Keener. You moved from where? I read that Keener had done it. I moved, I was at boarding school in Massachusetts. Okay. Who went to boarding school here? You said somebody did. Oh, you did? Yeah. Where did you go? In Canada. We don't talk about it. We had a bad break. Boarding school and I had a bad break. Okay. Yeah. Well, mine was, it's tough. But I went to a fancy one. I can't complain. It was very, very bougie. But I graduated and left the suburbs of Massachusetts after growing up in New York and then D.C. And I had never spent much time in the West Coast. I thought L.A. sounded like this, like, incredible mecca of excitement. And I came out here and took, like, two city buses to work every day in the casting office and then started auditioning and, you know, kind of, like, scraped my way up slowly. But it was really the dream from the beginning. So, for me, it was very exciting even just to be here. And where'd you stay when you came out? Did you move into the Oakwoods? No. That would have been fun. That sounded so fun for those people. That's just for pilot season. I did a few pilot seasons. So, for Tracy, that's a place where the actors would go stay when they came. It was like a corporate housing and there would be that thing. I remember pilot season, you'd have, like, six auditions a day and you're not getting anything. And the back gate is on Barham over there on the way down the hill towards Warner Brothers. And on the back gate when you leave, there's a sign on the gate. And you had to wait for it to slowly open. And it said, smile, it's showtime. Oh, ew. So dark. And there'd be days and it's like February and it's raining all day. And you're, like, going back for a crappy pilot and you're just feeling like, my life is so worthless. I'm 31. Nothing is happening. Smile, it's showtime. Fuck me, man. Well, I had given myself a limit because I had taken a, I deferred from college and I was like, I'm giving myself a year or two. Or, like, nine months. And if I don't book anything in that time, I'll go. I think that's good. I think giving yourself a little bit of a deadline. What was the thing that you would have gone back and studied in college? I mean, acting. I mean, it would have, I think I would have studied, I really probably would have become a writer like everyone else in my family or I would have tried. Right. So, but now if I went back, which I like to fantasize about, I think it would be, like, I think I want to study neuroscience. I'd like to go and do, wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. I thought there'd be a bunch of math I'd have to catch up on, though, which is not. I've got a couple of friends that are doctors and I just, they walk on water to me. Yes, yes. I just, like, that's really, I know. Like, you certainly aren't born with any sort of natural talent to cut people's brains open and fix it. Right? Like, you could be born with talent to throw a football a hundred yards or whatever, but you don't come out with, so it's all learned. You have to learn so much and you don't learn it and you don't learn it until you read it or it's explained to you or you have to retain all that. Jason respects discipline. He respects discipline. Yes, yes. And self-education. Yeah, yeah. I just, I think it's incredible. I wonder if they are born, though, with something. Maybe you are born with greater intelligence. Well, you just have to, an affinity to want to learn that. Yeah, or learn that. That's why I'd get into neuroscience because I'd want to get in there and see if they are born with it. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Get in there. You cut them open and look for natural talent. Yeah, that's how we'd learn if they are born with it. Yeah, you fucking dummy. That's why I'm doing it. Yes. You think Dr. Gary walks on water, by the way? I do. He's an emergency room physician. He's got to do everything. No, you disrespect his golf game because he's so straight and he's always in the fairway. But what about, I have a friend that was like, he's like, I don't trust doctors. I don't believe in them. I think, you know, statins. Like, just, he goes on and on about like what's. You're talking about RFK Jr.? Yeah. Your top dog? Yeah, he's like, I'm having dinner with him tonight. No. No, but. - The top dog. No, but like, what do you think about these people who don't ever, who constantly put doctors down. I'm with you. I'm like, I've taken the two choices about someone who, you know, stuff you read online or like self-help, whatever, and somebody who studied it day in and day out. I'm going to go with the guy who studied it. Yeah, just assuming that those doctors must be wrong. Like, wait, what? Also that there's a bigger conspiracy at play here that they're looking to take the, what is it, take the world over? They've all organized and figured out how to trick us all. Sean, do you think, Sean trusts doctors too much. I mean, I would say that maybe. Yeah, he's got a punch card at Cedars. No, he's, they call him Paddles when he comes in. He's got AFib and he's always getting it fired up. I mean, I had to play a doctor to be anywhere near it. House, let's talk about House. That wasn't me trying to like segue into my career at all. No, no, no. Keeping the interview going, we appreciate the help. No. And for our Canadian listeners, it's the show known as House. Yes, created by Canadians. House, House. Wasn't that next door to us over there on the Fox lot for Arrested Development? I thought you meant Canada. Oh, man. I wish I was on your show. I wish we were all back on the 20th lot. Wasn't that great? Just going to Apple Pan every day for lunch. Apple Pan is in my life. Is that still there? Oh, yeah. I think it is there. I think Irving Azoff bought it. Yeah, I go there after therapy. Didn't Irving Azoff buy Apple Pan? That's right. Or am I thinking of Nate Niles? No, you're correct. Or both? Sean, you go there after therapy? So like once all the feelings come up, you go to stuff them back down? Yeah. Yes, with the tuna melt and the milkshake. Yes, that's so good. And the fries. All right, all right. So now, so we're back. We're going to go back in the time machine. What is Olivia Coburn watching when she's a wee lass that's inspiring her to become an actor? Okay, this is the thing. I think about this a lot now. My family, we watched a lot of comedy together. And it is my greatest memory from childhood is the sound of my parents laughing. And all of us laughing. And my mom has a really funny thing. She still like cries when she laughs. And it's just adorable. I love that. She would always be like wiping away tears. And my dad laughing so hard. All of us. And when I think about it, it was a lot of comedy that I wouldn't have been absorbing the real meaning of. I mean, a lot of- Like Taxi, All in the Family. Yeah. And like we watched like a lot of comedy that was probably a little too adult. And then a lot of, you know, we watched like Wayne's World, a thousand times. Like for some reason, Wayne's World was like a huge movie in our family. But a lot of SNL. And it was a real joy to just sit and watch, you know, all the Monty Python together a lot. Like we just, it was the best. And I think for me, watching comedy, even watching like, for me, I love Lucy. I watched a lot of old comedy television. Yeah, we do too. I do too. I watch Cheers a lot. Cheers, the best. I love Cheers. God, I love Cheers. And so- And so I think about like, oh, of course, that's where I find myself now wanting to make comedies because it's just, I think it is probably the happiest memories from childhood. I think I'm trying to recreate that feeling. But did you go like, oh, I'm going to go and do this and I want to be in comedy? Like, was that like a thing? Yes, yes. Yeah, I think probably because it was, I probably at the earliest stage saw how happy it was making my parents. Like I think, and then I would, I was the ham of the family. And so I would make them laugh. And then I would, I was the ham of the family. And I would go and like just entertain everyone. And they always had parties. My family, my parents are very social and very good hosts. And so they had these amazing parties all the time. And it was my joy in life to go and like perform as the little kid. So, but I really think it was from watching all these great movies together. And I think about it because I'm like, am I showing my kids enough like great films? I hope so. Jason, you're good about it. With Franny, you've been so good about it. I put them in front of the TV before they could even speak because that was my upbringing. I mean, because you were playing golf. Well, there was that. You're busy. But, you know, they got to learn somehow, you know, colors and numbers and things. No, but you've talked to the last couple of years, like you and Franny talk about film and you sort of put a lot of good stuff in front of her. Like that's been important to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really important to me. Because that's what I had with my dad. It was great subject matter and shared references and yeah, I just, I love it. Yeah. You don't want to expose your four-year-old to the wire, but, you know, it's just like common sense. I'm not afraid of screens. It's the best. And when they get it, it's so great. But sometimes they'll be like, they'll come back from their dad's house and be like, we had to watch 12 Angry Men. And I'm like, jeez. I don't know if that's. Well, Suds, you know. Suds loves the 12 Angry Men. Oh, this is like, oh my God. What are your kids, what are your go-to whether they're repeats, like they will watch the same one movie over and over? Oh, well, I miss when they were really into like musical theater. They, I mean, Otis used to be obsessed with Singing in the Rain and it was so sweet. He would watch it over and over and over again. And, you know, Mary Poppins and all that. And now, now it's more, actually the thing that I love that he's into is Godzilla. The original, the old Godzilla. Oh no, with like the claymation. Yeah. Like Mothra. Have you seen that? The 1960s Godzillas are so cool and beautiful. And he and I went to Japan a couple of weeks ago on like a little mom-son trip. We went for a week. Oh, I'm so jealous. And it was the best. It was like, it was just the greatest trip I've ever taken with another person alone. Like it was, we laughed constantly. And it was, it came from our shared Godzilla obsession. Can I, can I just say as an aside, have you guys been to Japan before, Sean and Judy? No, I want to go. I've been a couple of times as a kid and I have actually promised that, that exact trip Olivia just took to both girls individually, just father-daughter time. And I have not, I have not done it yet. You gotta go. I was talking about with Abel, the same thing. Japan is the greatest place. I couldn't love Japan anymore. It's amazing. It's amazing. And it's great for kids. It's clean. It's so clean. Like Otis couldn't get over the fact that there's no trash on the street and there's no trash cans. So it's not because like, oh, they have so many trash cans. It's that, they just respect the city enough to not litter. It's the, everything about it is interesting and beautiful. And we had the best time. We got on the bullet train. And every, you, I bet you love it Bateman because it's very efficient. Everything about it. Like the train leaves like, literally like to the second at the time that it says. It's like the opposite of Italy. Even, and I love Italy too. But it's like, there is. We went on a train. Yeah. It is. And Otis is like that. It's good. The train will leave eventually. We'll make a big deal. Have a nice coffee. One cigarette. It's predictable. And I think kids really like that too. They like the idea that like, it's going to happen when they say it's going to happen. And there's just so, they're just the coolest. Well, I saw this thing about Japan where if a kid, I may have gotten this wrong. If a kid is wearing yellow, then that kid is by himself and everybody watches out for that kid. Come on. You know, like the kid, like the kid isn't, doesn't have a, a. On chaperone. On chaperone. Yeah. On chaperone. Yeah. Wow. Or an orphan. Maybe that's a, it's an orphan uniform. Right. Just walking around looking for a home. This one's free. Just grab this one if you want. No. I don't think so. Yeah. Come on, Sean. No, but I think, I think I saw that. I don't know if that's true, but yeah. I don't know about that one. It's probably not. Oh, hang on. This is, Olivia, this is a segment we like to call I think I saw that. It's just, it's really a lot of conjecture. And it's next to the other. It's the other segment called I think I saw that. Scrub My Search History by Sean Hayes. Wait, we have to introduce that. I may have dreamt this. All right, so here we go. What was the, what was the thing? What was the thing? What was the job? What was the thing that turned it all? Because you're auditioning, you're doing stuff. What was the thing? What was the first boom? I guess probably the OC. The OC. Oh, that's right. I was a bisexual bartender, Alex Kelly. And it was, it was a big show. Bigger than I knew it was when I agreed to do it. And it was wild. You know, it's being rewatched. Oh, I know. Because these young folks, now they come up to me and I'm like, what do you mean? It's such a deep cut, but they will say like, I love you on the show. And I'm like, what show? And it's the OC and I can't believe it. I mean, for them, it's like Nick at Night now, right? It's like old. Right, right, right. I wonder why they landed on that as opposed to, let's say, 90210 or Melrose Place or something like that. It's close enough. And also, they're obsessed with early aughts, everything fashion now too. So like, it is from that era that is now weirdly coming back. And so they're into that look and the music. It's relevant. Sean, you're about to be in style again. Oh, jeez. I mean, this is the good news. I've been waiting. It's going to pay off. Yeah. You're like low rise jeans and your little crop tops. Yeah. It's coming back. The thing in the mirror behind you coming up is it's closer than it looks. Yeah. So we'll be right back. And back to the show. All right. And then there was, then there was Girl Next Door. There was Alpha Dog. That's so funny. And then we got to Cowboys and Aliens. I love that movie. And then the change up. When are we getting to the change up? I mean, were there more people that saw Cowboys and Aliens or change up? Oh, that's hard. It might've been the same five people. I was talking about the change up. - Let's talk about the change-up, let's talk about the change-up. - Let's talk about it, let's talk about it. The memory of the change-up. My favorite memory is obviously sitting on your lap, topless. With pasties. No, I mean from shooting. I mean from the movie. Oh, okay. That was also fun. Yeah. That was a good time as well. We really had the best time. I loved making that movie. Right? It was a blast. Ryan's the coolest. He was so fun. David Dobkin was so freaking awesome. Oh, Dobkin. It was so great. It was really fun. Down there in Atlanta. I loved it. That's right. Remember when I stopped by on the set? At the same time. Yeah, Sean, you were making Three Stooges at the same time, right? Yes, you were. And I walked to the mall to go see Green Lantern. And there's Jason and Ryan filming change-up in the middle of the mall. Oh, wow. And I walked right into the middle of the scene. I was like, hey, guys. Oh! They should have kept that. The movie would have been better. With the curly wig on? Yeah, totally. At the fountain. I think it was the fountain right in the middle of the mall. Oh, right. The fountain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys were so cute. You guys were so good. You were so funny together. You got a bogey over by the fountain. Totally. I was shuffled along very quickly. And then we do Drinking Buddies, Joe Swanberg. Yes. That was completely improvised? Completely improvised. Yeah, that's like the true Swanbergian way, which is kind of that mumblecore, which I think they hate that word, mumblecore. It seems very, I don't know. I feel like it's more than it is. It was, you get, there's no script. There's a sort of outline. And then you just improvise. What is this for? Oh, this was a movie called Drinking Buddies. Oh, Drinking Buddies. Isn't that similar to what they do on Curb Your Enthusiasm? Sean, you've done that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just get the outline and you go. So there's no written script? No, zero. You just got to hit the beats and then you start improvising. It's super fun. It's so great. And it was the first time I kind of took myself seriously as potentially being able to write something or maybe direct something one day because we were really in control of the story. And it was a collective effort. And that workshopping was so fun. It makes it very real. And it was, we kept learning from what happened and then letting that affect the next scene. So it was like, oh, now this is what happened to these people. But you shot it in order. We shot it mostly in order. And that led to, then the movie that I just directed, this movie, The Invite, that I did completely in order. And it was all really started in Drinking Buddies days when I was like, this is so fun. And it was a dream. In Chicago, drinking beer. I love that. So that was my next question is, so did Drinking Buddies inspire you to want to direct? Yeah. Is that the experience? I kind of, I wanted to before, but that was the first time that I was like, wait, I think I might, I might know how to put a scene together because I was given the chance to sort of be a part of that process. And it was, I was like, this is the most fun. I want that. And now having done both, obviously scripted, and this version where it's improv through an outline, do you prefer one or the other or? I think there's a, what I prefer is what I ended up getting to do on this movie, which was we workshopped the script together as cast and writers. Yeah. And then we were able to shoot in order, shoot it, yeah, it was like a play. And it was a very well thought out script ultimately, but we had kind of worked it together and in not in a full like Mike Lee way where we spend like a year improvising on a cliff side or something, it's not that, but it was very, it was very organic because we had come, we had really massaged it together. And then once we got on set, we knew exactly what we were doing. I like that. Well, so tell the audience a little bit more about that one. This was called The Invite and it's inspired by or based on. It's based on a Spanish film. Okay. So yeah, so tell me, how did it kind of get started? Who watched the film first? Who called each, who called the other person and say, you know, let's, let's do it this way. Okay, so Rashida Jones and Will McCormick wrote, we love, wrote the English language adaptation of a Spanish film that was called The People Upstairs. And it was a small Spanish film that was based on a play that you, you can sort of see the origins of it as a play because it's four people in one apartment. And that's the whole, the whole thing takes place with four people in one apartment over one night. And the idea is that it's a kind of a dinner party gone wrong. It's about a husband and wife in our version. It's myself and Seth Rogen who have been kind of plagued by the sounds of our neighbors upstairs having very loud sex. And it's been driving Seth's character, kind of insane. And unbeknownst to him, I've invited these people over for dinner and he's furious because he doesn't want to have dinner with anyone. He's tired from work, but he says, fine, if there, if you've ambushed me with this, I'm going to bring up the noise from upstairs. And I'm like, over my dead body, you'll bring up that noise. You will not, please just try to be normal and have a normal night so we can have friends. And so the whole night he's kind of threatening to bring up this thing and they are endlessly kind of sexy and enigmatic and they end up really blowing our minds and changing our marriage in one night. And the other couple is? Penelope Cruz and Edward Norton. What a cast. Yeah, what a cast. I mean, it's insane. Unbelievable cast. It's insane. And so, so, so Rashida and Will wrote the English version and I got that script and I was like, this is hilarious. And it was clearly an opportunity to make something in this way that I had been obsessing over since Drinking Buddy. So I was like, okay, we can shoot this in order and we can really, we can do this. We can really personalize this script together and workshop it and make it really specific to these actors. And we can shoot it on 35 millimeter and we can make it really fun. And I was, I'm obsessed with Mike Nichols. So I was like, this could be our Virginia Wolf. And it was the best experience of my life. Sorry, Jason. And Will, I love working with you guys. This one was great. Well, yeah. But then, so you take this great script from Rashida and Will and, but you, but then the four of you get together, the cast. And do you guys start to take an even plus the script because of the specificity of each actor? Yes. And we really, the six of us sat for two weeks. This was the thing. I was like, can we stop giving away rehearsal time immediately when we make movies? Like it's the first thing we give up. And it is impossible to convince people. Really agents. Agents are the ones who are like, no, he's not available until the minute you start rolling the camera. And it's like, why? Why can't we consider it part of the job? Can you imagine doing that for theater? If it was like, no, I'll be there for previews. And then what they do is then they prorate their, then they prorate their, their salary. They say, well, so an extra two weeks of work at this number. Sorry, Jason's also an agent. I don't know if you knew that. Yeah, be my agent, please. But it, it really was so fun because, because the six of us sat at this table and we tore through the script and Rashida and Will were so game to, to kind of let it evolve to what these actors were, were thinking. God, that's fun. And it was so fun. And it was like, imagine, I mean, Seth and Edward and Penelope are all real filmmakers on their own. I mean, they're directors, they're writers. And so the opportunity to kind of get all of their good ideas and put them in there. And Edward, Edward is on another, first of all, Edward's maybe one of my favorite Smart List guests. He's, maybe that episode is really, really great. He's so smart. And he's so funny. Yeah, and he's so funny. And people don't even. So funny. People do know it. And, but I am obsessed with him and he ended up improvising like an entire monologue in the third act of this movie that is so beautiful. And it really just, it was his gift to us to just kind of like, he said to me, I'm going to, I have a story I want to tell on the scene. I kind of don't want to tell you what it is. And I was like, okay, yeah. How long, like roughly? Just because we're like rolling film and I was paying for the film and I was like, just like how, how? Was it longer than a full mag? I put a thousand foot mag on the camera and I was like, go! And he used it. That's 10 minutes, right? And it was really great. But it was, Penelope Cruz came up with the funniest set piece in the movie. And it was all with the, you know, workshopping with Rashida and Will who would, man, just like run with the punches of roll or run? Do you roll or you roll with them? You roll with the punch, yeah. They rolled and ran. They ran with the ball. It was the best. And then I wasn't supposed to be in the movie, but the actors bullied me into playing that part, which was very, which was very sweet of them. Well, now how do you find that? Do you find it, do you find it efficient to direct yourself or do you find it distracting? I think in this case it was efficient because it was so intimate. It was almost like having one less body on set was actually really helpful. And I think that it allowed me to, to see things they were all doing. These, these geniuses were doing so many little things that I could see things the camera couldn't see. And so I'd be like, oh, okay, now we need to come around because Seth is doing something that I actually need us to get. And so in that way, it was good. I, I feel like it could be very difficult in a different situation. I also was playing someone who was like riddled with anxiety and which helped because I could just kind of be me. Were they comfortable with you directing them inside a take or did you have to wait? to wait until you yelled cut before you gave them notes. - I wasn't. do a like okay give me a little more give me like in this it's still rolling i want more go deeper i didn't do that at all character directed in character yeah yeah no i i really believe in letting people kind of play and try things and then knowing that what i really can do as a director is later on prune and and adjust things in the edit so i just think it was like encouraging them to keep experimenting and and and some with seth i would have to tell him he could be meaner to me because our characters it's a very contentious relationship and there's a lot of arguing and he's a very non-confrontational person so the most direction i gave seth was like you can fucking scream at me like i can take it and and angry seth is a it's a thing to behold because it's he's got it in him it turns out how many days how many days was it then it must have 23 amazing yeah so fast wow you like just the best i mean we were we were on this little sound stage sunset las palmas it's the pink one if you remember the opening of the player when he drives in it's that and it's iconic it's great and tiny and we were all we built the set on stage and we just you know banged it out and then and then a year later went to sundance it was so fast we get in the weeds for one second did you did you have multiple cameras oh we had one camera no and then and then towards the the last week we brought in a second camera because we wanted to just be able to there were there were some scenes that it would they benefited from two cameras but i didn't want to i felt like i had been inspired by like tarantino saying like don't be a hack have one camera pick your perspective anytime you have two cameras one shot is suffering and i was like oh that's cool well but you've got these four people talking all the time and so you've got to do it four times at least yes everyone gets a camera pointed at them yes you know and we did a lot of like shared frame that's why it is very theatrical in that way that like there's a lot of times we're sharing the frame which is why we had the best focus puller in the world who could somehow predict when someone was going to improvise a joke and it's also better i think for comedy because there's nothing worse than cutting back between you know from singles in comedy you know love seeing people inhabiting the same frame in a comedy oh it's so thrilling because they really did that yeah yeah yeah it's so much better so if you take a left on las palmas like how like street parking obviously again jason i know that you want it where'd the trucks go also editing editing comedy too i just find we i always think you know i gave you or whoever it is they gave you the comedy timing while you were filming it and the editor cuts plays with it it's like no we gave you the timing when we were filming it yes that's what it is exactly to maintain yeah yeah god that's why wonders are so good because they're just fully intact yeah but you had you had so much technique and know-how and execution right out of the gate with book smart was like just like a stunning accomplishment that must have felt so good that was your first movie you directed yeah it's insane it's insane i i think that it it really was because my proxy film school because i i didn't go to college didn't go to film school and i was always insecure about that lack of education and i think that being on so many sets as an actor i just paid attention to everything and i i just tried to absorb it but yeah i i think book smart i think often your first movie is the one you've been building up for your entire life and you put all of your ideas into it and and you have so much to give and and you're lucky if it if if it resonates with people and and i got so lucky because it happened to hit you know a place and a lot of people's kind of shared um trauma of adolescence like you that's the thing i love about high school movies but even but but just the but just the making of it olivia like you know and the stuff that that you wouldn't have been around to observe and and to sort of cherry pick from these great directors all this post-incredibleness in that film the the editing style the choice the use of music and stuff like that's all shit that you people usually need like a handful of movies under their belt before they really kind of i don't know i just was so happy again the science of it is you're born with it you're born with it we're gonna cut you open and take a look you're born get in there yeah i i love it it's i'm a much better director than actor but i love acting too but directing are you i guys tell me am i wrong no you're right i know you paused after you said that just i did i was like so olivia what what what what's going on when you're not working pickleball or what oh no i should i learn it fuck no i was in central park the other day and they were playing it and someone was playing like jimmy hendrix um the stereo and like everybody was playing pickleball and i was like what a beautiful hobby that i don't do but i like to watch yeah um what is what is what is the hobby someone would be uh surprised to learn that you've got it's just us no one's listening between us gals yeah or the pastime or like the guilty tv or the thing do you have a thing that you do you're like oh my god i can't believe i'm wasting my time doing this i don't really i don't i i mean hobbies yeah i mean i feel like i'm i really recently it's like i'm working or i'm mothering yeah and the dumbest thing that you do because like the you know the directing is like you can't stop thinking because you there's never right you've never have it all figured out so like yeah what do you do that that requires zero thinking do you ever just stare at the television and oh my god yeah talk to you yeah yeah yeah i love you get wrapped up in crap yeah oh yeah i just watched love is blind oh gosh love is blind so i did four hours of below deck yesterday you did i did four full hours of below deck yesterday i did a 90 day fiance before the 90 days oh i've done a bunch of episodes wow olivia what what any reality and i i mean i love love on the spectrum but i don't know what to do with it i don't know what to do with it that is that makes me cry and i love it so much incredible and um no i mean i love a housewife but i i think that for me it's like oh any city on housewives i like beverly hills but i i think that any city will do it for me yeah but i think that like i just watched all of love story and i got really into it's not that's the ryan murphy that's the carolyn right right right right got really into that and it's not quite reality it's not quite reality it's not quite reality it's not reality tv but you still feel like a little there's something a little guilty pleasure about i haven't watched that but the only bummer about that love story to me is that it's me they die in the end no it's made odeon really busy again in tribeca oh my god that's oh yeah all these people are coming what the fuck oh that's the restaurant we ate at yeah yeah yeah uh before we let you go because we're coming up on the end here it's so fast i know i know i know um talk to us about um a new another new thing coming up called i i want your sex i do i want your sex right all right it's just a clip that is i want it that is gregor rocky who is a a real like yeah very cool filmmaker who is a real la filmmaker he is um or an auteur and wild i mean very very much an individual and i think that's a really cool thing to do and i think that's a really cool thing to do i play a dominatrix and um of course and i and you're dominating you're dominating the sweet you know he doesn't deserve to get whipped he loved it and it is a very very campy fun movie and it was really cool because when we were at sundance with the invite i want your sex premiered on friday and the invite was saturday and i just felt so lucky to be able to that's amazing like part of this fun business where we get to tell all these crazy stories and and they both got bought magically and so and they're coming out my god right after each other and no way it's so fun yeah it's like invite so yeah so i want your sex comes out july 23rd uh which is in about 10 days from this air date here and the invite is out invites already out yeah it came out june 26 so june 26 new york that's my birthday you're not on my birthday guys now you have plans that no we have i mean you did we saw it yeah on my birthday and you had the best time and everyone laughed so hard yes i loved it oh i'm glad you loved it your favorite film come on of all times you liked the beginning and you loved the middle but you really it was the end the guy yeah yeah really shed a tear yeah i walked out not dry and then we're gonna all look forward to the to the behemoth with sweet sweet willie arnett coming out uh sometime next year right at some point meanwhile you're probably hard at work um getting ready to direct your next incredible movie we're all waiting for it keep jamming please be in it you're the best can you can you just give us a hint of what you're working on or area or no it's a comedy it's a it's a christmas comedy i'm in i'm already in i love a christmas comedy you should see sean play an elf he did it with kenny rogers he was on the road yeah please come i'll send myself tape over with real good lighting yes actually put myself in a winter wonderland just so you really get it please yeah yeah great what was your line santa i don't know when to hold him or when to fold him that's what it was That's what it was. We love you, Olivia. I love you, guys. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for having me. What a dream. And congrats on everything. Yeah, super, super congrats. Thank you. Keep going, girl. Thanks. Bye. Talk to you soon. See you soon. Bye. Bye. Bye. Wow. That's incredibly charming. Olivia Wilde. I love her. Talent to match. You can tell she's funny. She's super funny. Super funny, so smart, so, so smart, and so cool. I'm just so excited that she's directing and that it's like she could just do it forever. You know? Yeah. She's incredible at it. She's got every gear. Writer, director, actor. And they're all working. I know. They're all working, yeah. I know. All the gears. I'd love to have A gear. It would be nice. A gear. She's got it all. You know? What are you doing with your life, Will? I don't know. I'll tell you what I am doing on October 17th. What's that, huh? Well, if you go to smartlist.com slash live, you'll find out what I'm doing, and it has to do with the Hollywood Bowl. Just give us a hint. I'll just say that. I'll just say that. It's got to do with the Hollywood Bowl. What's happening about the Hollywood Bowl? What's happening? I'll just say that. Smartlist.com slash live has to do with the Hollywood Bowl. What do you mean? And you know what? I'm going to invite you guys. What? To join me. I'm available. Yeah. At the Hollywood Bowl. What are we going to be doing? We're going to do a live Smartlist show at the Hollywood Bowl. Holy shit. Smartlist.com slash live on October 17th. It's going to be on there. So it's going to be on there. Fwap, fwap, fwap. Hollywood Bowl. Oh, wow. Listen, what we're going to do is we're going to, you know, New York's got the- Okay, here we go. Finally. Jason's got one. Jason's got one. New York's got the apple. LA's got the orange. And so what we're going to do is since- You know, the Hollywood Bowl is such a big part of LA, we're going to go ahead and take a- Out of the orange, we're going to take a big bite. Bite! 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