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Oliver Tree Explains It All! | Whiskey Ginger

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Oliver Tree Explains It All! | Whiskey Ginger

Oliver Tree, a self-proclaimed independent artist, discusses his rich family background rooted in French-Canadian heritage and historical contributions, including ties to the Statue of Liberty and world’s fairs. He highlights his commitment to artistic authenticity, having produced his entire debut album solo—writing every song, playing all instruments, and maintaining full creative control. Despite early exposure to substance use, including opioids and designer drugs, Tree credits a cold turkey recovery for overcoming addiction. He also reveals a deep personal connection to music, having written thousands of unreleased songs and choosing to remain low-key in the industry, refusing high-profile collaborations to preserve artistic integrity. His music, like the song "When I'm Down," reflects personal struggles and growth, while his lifestyle includes sustainable practices, such as using cat-feces fertilized coffee for olive tree farming. Tree emphasizes self-reliance and self-sufficiency, with family-owned ventures like wind turbines in the desert and olive vineyards in India. A recurring theme is his rejection of commercialization and fame, favoring authenticity and personal growth over fame or pop stardom. His story blends personal resilience, family legacy, and environmental sustainability into a unique narrative of self-made success.

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Welcome back to Whiskey Ginger O'Wave series presented by FanDuel. Hey, with GingerFans, I am going to be with my buddy Bobby Lee, my favorite little noodle, my cute little dumpling. This may eighth here in Los Angeles for Netflix as a joke fest at the YouTube theater down there by the SoFi stadium. May 8th. Bad friends is doing one show this year as far as we know at the YouTube theater. So please go grab those tickets. Then I'm going to be doing two shows. June 28th. There's an early show in a lake show at the sound in Del Mar San Diego, bro. Surf isn't up right now. Come see me. Do comedy. June 28th at the sound in San Diego, early show in a lake show. Then July 24th at the AmeriStar casino in St. Charles, Missouri, right next to St. Louis. Come out and see me. Go to Andrewsantino.com for those tickets. Andrewsantino.com In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. Oh, that creature in the GingerFans. Sturdy. Ginger. Like that has the ginger gene intricate. Ginger is a fugitive. You only five downers for the whiskey. 75 downers for the whole. Ginger's our hell now. This whiskey gives excellent. Ginger. I like ginger. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest is one of my favorite people on another. Say that for all my guests. But I mean, once again, today, it's Oliver Tree. He liked that intro. I love that. Was that good? You're getting close to one of those people. They, they're kind of the sports. The auctioneers. Yeah. Well, that's five to seven to nine. That's it. That's it. Oliver Tree. They got to go. How long you've been working on that? 42 years since I was a born, since I was a born. I do it. I've been talking fast my whole life. People think I'm on drugs, but I'm not. Am I on drugs? See, I'm not on drugs. Almost the last time he did drugs an hour and a half ago. Right. So it might be a little bit after. I think they go away. Don't they go away after like 30 or 40 minutes? I think it stays in your system for a good 32 days. No way, dude. Yeah. 32 depends the substance. He was doing poppers. I was doing poppers. Poppers again. Yeah. You're using them last time I was here. To the roof. You really like them. It's good for brain functionality from what I understand. That's what they say. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I heard. Do you hear that? What is that? That's a popper stocking, dude. Her back. You're a big whip. It's guy. Dude, I used to love whip. You look like a whip. It goes to whip. It's guy. I did. I definitely get that vibe from you. I love them. I loved them. Big whip. It's big whip. It's guy. I stopped though. Why? Oh, a few weeks ago. Oh, you did? Yeah. You're clean. You're clean. I mean, not clean entirely. I still do micro-dosing on the mushrooms, put sober besides that. Wait, you're micro-dosing mushrooms? Yeah, not right now. How many days a week do you do? I do about six or seven. Six or seven days a week. But not during business hours. This is business hours. No, I only do it once every two to three weeks. I'm doing a beautiful mind math. Well, it depends. If it's a business day, I skip holidays. And then I do. Which holidays though? Uh, uh, Jewish holidays? No, we do it on the Jewish holidays. You do? Yeah. You don't respect that. But mostly just the government mandated holidays. Anything where the post office is closed, you'll do it. Yeah. Ideally, those are the best days. But yeah, I used to love wippets, man. It's great when you take a lot of drugs and then you do the wippets and you lose kind of touch with reality and you start going in and out of different time zones. What time zone have you gone to that you like the most? I don't know. I never really remember. The wippets, they just make you black out at a certain point. Yeah, it's not good for you. First time I did wippets though, I broke my arm, um, mountain biking and whistler. And I broke this bone, the humorous, the biggest bone in the body. And I went over my handlebars, crashed last run of the last day of the last part of the trip, fall, break my humorous and then, um, in the same bro, they picked me up in this big truck. Like it was in the middle of, you know, the snow time, summer slopes, whistler, BC, British Canada. British Columbia. British Canada. British Canada. Sorry, you're right. I was in British Canada. Yeah, BC and bro, that guy, he's like, there's 42,000 pounds in this thing. Go to town. He gave me a whole tank. And I was like 16 at the time, 15. So I'm huffing on this and and eventually, you know, because any time you take it, the pain goes away. It's a pretty effective for broken bones. I don't know if you ever experimented with it. Wippets are good for broken bones. Very good. Wow. So I'm taking it because anytime the pain comes back, you just start huffing on this thing. Go to town. Next thing I know everything is pink and blue, slow motion. It was quite a trip. And what did you get out of it? Well, actually, this is crazy. So I got very ill afterwards. So for three days, and I'm sure they gave me some other drugs at the hospital, but for three days. So I, I had to take suppositories because I couldn't keep anything down. This is the only town my life I ever had to buy not choice. Take it by choice, but not this is for not choice. Yeah, there's forced force mandatory, dude. So I threw up on the airplane, got it on the train. Yep. And on the bus. This is your plane's trains and automobiles. It's just puking on every form of public transport. That's amazing. That was amazing. You were a yak. And that's why you're so skinny. You lost all that weight. No, I've been found 100 pounds when I met you. No, dude. I was like 35375. You're 75. Yeah. Wait, what do you mean? You're still skinny. You think you got bigger junky? I hit so I did in and out yesterday, Taco Bell the day before. I've been going bigger, going home. What's your Taco Bell order? Okay, so being cheese burrito. Got it. No onions. Okay. But sometimes I add the extra hot sauce or extra cheese in there, something so that they have to make a fresh one. Oh, I learned that recently. Smart. But it's been getting me even fatter because I do it with all my items. Yeah. So bean and cheese. Bean and cheese, no onions. Then I do the nachos supreme with it's a nacho taco. Oh, yeah. The Doritos. Yeah, the Doritos Los Tacos. Yeah, you better believe I get those. Yeah. And then I get a Chalupa. And then just for old time's sake, I get the little chips and cheese dip. That's for my childhood. Yeah. And then I get a Baja Blast. Yeah, what about you, what's your order? Strong order, dude. It's not fair. You said that to every guest. No, I dare make her guys that have a strong, that's a very strong order. What's your order? Three cheese are going to need to crunches. Wow. Two Doritos Los Tacos. No tomato. Wait, because you're gird. Yeah, acid reflux. Yeah, that's a reflux. I can't have it. No, raw tomatoes. Cooked tomato fine. Right. Raw tomato. Because you're Italian, right? Yeah, you're Irish Italian. Yeah, Irish and Italian. Are you Irish Italian? Yeah, I'm Irish and Italian. So what I can do is I can have stewed tomatoes, sundried tomatoes, but I can't have none of them raw tomatoes. I don't like this stuff. Yeah, because you don't like it or because of the acid reflux. acid reflux. Yeah, I'm really like it. Yeah, you get it bad. I'll get it so bad. I'll be in the middle of the night going. Wait, you're pretty gassy. Gassy boy, dude, that's what my wife says. Super gassy boy. Yeah, I'm part. All right. Gassy boy, take your butt down to the bathroom. Gassy boy. Wait, is she from Jamaica? Yeah. More and more. Gassy boy. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, you don't think I can get a Jamaica? No, I thought you could do whatever you put your mind to. Your guy was very powerful, heart and soul. I think whatever you put your mind to, no problem. Yeah, I mean, she fell in love with me. I was on the island and what island? Jamaica? Really? Yeah, have you been? No, you'd love it. I do want to go. It's crazy. It's another world out there, man. I'm going to go, I'm going to Dominican Republic soon. That's going to be fun. Going out of the DR. I don't know, dude. I genuinely don't know. You should go to Haiti. Haiti? Yeah. Good time to go. Stuff is cheap there, I know. What about Mexico? Should I go? Love it. Be a fucking fan of Mexico, bro. I've been over 20 times. A little dangerous right now. Don't care. Puerto Vallarta definitely more rough. I've been there to a beautiful place, but maybe not this moment. Wait for things to chill. Okay. Mexico City is top five cities. Mexico City is phenomenal. Phenomenal. Some of the best food you'll ever find. And some of the prettiest women. Pretty women. You're married now. I can still see pretty people. You can't say that. You're a beautiful man. Can I not say that you're a beautiful man? Stop. You said it to all your guests. I do actually. We have said that the last five guests in the row. Thank you. Name me a place that I need to go to that you went to that changed your life around the world. There's so many. I mean, easy ones to go to as far as top five. Yeah. Antarctica. You went. How long were you going? Twice. I'm about to go back from my third time. Whoa. You go there for about 10 days. What are you doing up there, dude? For down there. Okay, so the first time though, I stayed for an extended period of time. So I did a long, long stay. Yes. And you were doing research. Research. I play some concerts on the tour boat. Got you. So I do. I've done six sets so far. Wow. So some performance DJ and with some singing ambient sets as well. I do it for the yoga. Yeah, we did. There was a shaman there and we actually it was with my parents and we we call it hippie flipping. We did mushrooms and ecstasy hippie flipping. What's candy flipping? Is that acid acid and ecstasy? Yeah, that's fun too. You used to be a big fan of that. Yeah, I stopped. I've done acids as my burning man trip. When was that last year? That was 2016. Oh, 26. I was 17. So that was a long time ago, dude. Yeah, I'm 42 now. No, you're not. How old are you? 42. Shut the front door. Are you actually? I am. How old am I? 42. No fucking way. We're both 42. This is so crazy. But what's the big difference between you and I? We're both 42, but you, but you, but you get the three cheesy gritty to crunch it. That's right. You're like a big boy and you just get beaten and cheese. No, And then what I do is, are you French now? - Yeah, no, no. - Okay, wait, where are we gonna say that? - What I do when I'm done with Taco Bell? - Yeah. - When I'm done ordering, because I don't want my wife to get mad at me, because I got, 'cause she doesn't like that, I have junk food sometimes at night, when I come home from shows. So I eat it in the car. I pull over somewhere in a nice little park, and I eat it in the car like a little fat boy. - Yep. - My grandpa used to do that. - Eat it like a little fat sad boy in the car, and I listen to some tunes that I like. - What kind of tunes do you play? - Heavy metal. - No shit, when I have Taco Bell, metal dude, mega death. - Mega death, I didn't take you as a mega death. - Only when I'm eating Taco Bell. - Really? - I just went like, (imitates drumming) (imitates drumming) - Oh my gosh, shit. - And then, but then when I'm done with Taco Bell, I throw it away, and then it's only classical music on the way home. - I love that. So my whole experience of making music is based on a memory from my childhood, eating at Taco Bell with my father. And there was a song. I can't remember the name of the song or what it was, but my entire experience making music is trying to recreate that feeling, that song that I heard it and talk about, 'cause it's a very warm, happy place for me. - You know, in your comfort food, me and pops, go in there, mom doesn't know. Not allowed. - Oh, mom. - My mom's a hippie, right? - She doesn't like that kind of crap. - She does not allow it. I remember one time I went to a writer, and I thought I was cool, 'cause I wasn't in the organic health food store. - Because you lived in that when you were a kid. - That was my whole life. - That's all I knew. - And your dad did this. He would sneak you out. - He was a bad dad. - He was a bad boy. - Burger King, Taco Bell. - Yeah. - Name me an attic for a life. - That's a cool dad. - That's one cool dude. - Your dad is the man. - He's the fucking man. - Because he was like, you know what? I'm gonna have a moment with my son. We're gonna share something private and cool, and it's just for us. - Just for us. - And you're not doing anything wrong, you're just. - Well. - I mean, mom wouldn't like it, but you're not hurting anybody. - No, the only problem is now I'm hooked. - Yeah, we are wrong. - I can't stop. - You can't stop, dude. - Don't want to stop. - Yeah, but that influenced your music career. - And by the way, easy transition, but I do want to plug it. You got an album. - Stop. - April 24th. - Is that when it's coming out? - That's when it's coming out, man. - Bro, you know before me, where are you getting this information? - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Cause I didn't even know that. I don't know where you're getting this information. - I'm tuned in, dog. Up here, I'm tuned in. I thought it was the 21st. - So that's crazy. - Nope, better not be. - Better not be. - You're probably right. I have no idea. - Cause we're throwing a huge party. When is that party? - Well, you're gonna be there? - April 24th is what it says. Is it the 21st? - No, no, you're probably right. I have no idea what is that fall on a Friday. - Yeah. - Then you're right. (laughing) - Paul, yeah. - That's amazing, man. - I'd be really bummed out because we, yeah. What's the album's name? - Love you, Madly. Hate you deeply. - Hate you badly. - Hate you badly. - Love you, Madly. - You're so close. - I was right there. - Love you, Madly. Hate you badly. - Yeah. - And that's based on a moment in your life that happened. - That's based on something that someone said to you. - Well, not just someone. A certain someone by the name of Bobby Lee. - Do you wanna squash this beef or do you wanna keep it moving? - I don't know if now's the right time. - For people that don't know, you should go back and watch "Bad Friends" when OT came on "Bad Friends" and I gotta tell you, a war was started in a weird way. You didn't start it. - I didn't do shit. - I'll tell you what. - I never ever do anything. - Bobby Lee started it. He's always the instigator and he's been talking a lot of shit about you and I don't really like it. 'Cause he knows that we're cool and he's like, I don't like that dude. I don't want him around. - He's honestly just bad vibes. - He's bad bad vibes. - Like he's like, he's sober, right? - So they say, right? - He claims. - Yeah, he claims. - Sums off. - I can't put my finger on. I don't know, maybe he's just such a deep video game addict. - That it's destroyed part of his frontal cortex. - Well, this is all gone. A lot of it is gone. - Like a lot, right? - There's not much left going on there. - No, they tested, I think they did a test on half of his frontal cortex is kind of like, it's gray matter now, like nothing's there. - And he had a underdeveloped frontal lobe, right? - 100%. - Yeah. - Yeah, you can tell by the shape of his head, yeah. 'Cause it protrudes, right? He has a protrusion. - Well, he kind of looks like a neanderthal. - You ever seen that? - A little bit of a neanderthal. - Just kind of like the way that his forehead's shaped. - It's lumped, a lot of forward weight. And his jawline too, 'cause it's folded in and up. So it talks, it's weird. - There's something like a physician where you're gonna weigh. Are you like a. - Well, I went to med school, man. - Right. - I never graduate. - What's his facial rating? - His face rating is 12, 16, 4. So a perfect rating, of course, is 10, 12, 8. So he's off, the eight, the four differentials, because of his, this is called your colaxial. Your colaxial nerve that runs down through here. His colaxial protrusion is significantly less than what would be considered good looking. Whatever people say. I don't, as in medical terms, we call it, it's called V, it's, well, the tech, it's called VA, meaning visually applicable, visually applicable. Visually appealing is kind of the street tool. - Right, right, right. - But he's not visually appealing. So people see him, they get scared. - It's crazy, 'cause I knew something was off, but I didn't know how to put it into medical terms. - Well, it's science, a lot of it's science, but you're rating, 'cause we rated you, we actually pulled it up. You're one, you're one off from being a perfect visual face. Do you know that? - You're making this up. - No, we rated you. - Is it the nose? - It is, unfortunately, yeah. But everything else was perfect, dude. Everything else was perfect. We ran it through the system. Well, 'cause look, dude, men love you, women love you. And so you kind of are able to dance in any sort of beautiful world. - When I was 18, I made the decision. My parents wanted to go against this, but I was old enough to make the decision, and I went and I got a nose augmentation. - You got your nose done, wow. - No, bigger. - You wanted it bigger? - Whoa, that's cool. - Dude, I'm getting fucking calls. I gotta turn this shit off. - No, take the call right now, take it. - Who is it? - Who is it? - My doctor. - What does he gotta say? - I got an appointment. - What are we talking? - 830, dude, I think I got an ulcer. - Where? - It's not fucking funny, dude. I was shooting out for it this weekend. - You poop blood? - I don't know. - I think so. - What? - Could be a hemorrhoid. - No, I've been taking other medicine. - Or have you been eating blood? 'Cause if you've been eating blood, you will poop it out. That's something that we did learn. - Where did you learn that? - We had to do, we did an experiment where we started eating blood for a week and a half 'cause we wanted to see what it would do. - Well, you know what? - Where do we get the blood? - It turns black. - It turns black. - Wait, what? - Yeah, sometimes. Now it's red. - So it's fresh. - You gotta go see the dog. - I've set it up. It's, dude, the closest they could get me in is in a week. And that's a week just to get an appointment to go to and get another appointment. - To go get another appointment to go get another appointment to go get another appointment. - It's fucking insane, man. The system is insane. - See, we just do our own experiments. That's why we went and got blood and started eating blood. - Where did you get the blood again? - Del Taco. - No fucking way. - Yeah, they have it on the back. - No, they have it on their disc. On their, what did that dollar make? - Are you sure it wasn't hot sauce? - No wonder you were shit in blood. - Wait, was that hot sauce? Were you lying? - It was the red spicy stuff. - Yeah, I said it was blood. Is blood not spicy? - Blood, no, it's more of a metallic. It tastes like a penny. - How do you know? - Dude, I used to take, I had an ulcer before. I had to take, is it iodine pills? What's the? - Iron, iodine pills. - Iron, iron pills. - Iron, bro, I'm off. I slept like four hours, so my brain's not functioning. - What's wrong with you? Why aren't you getting any sleep? - Bro, I was playing chess. (laughs) 30, I just started playing last week. Dude, now I'm addicted. I was watching North Korean documentaries. - Wow, playing chess, bro. - That sounds good. - I went up like 100 points. - Am I rating? - Wait a minute, could you beat someone that's good now? Are you that good? - Oh, no. - I just started last week, man. - So what? - I'm addicted. - I think I might be. - I watched that documentary about that girl who was the Russian chess player. What was that girl's name? There was just a documentary about her and she beat like everybody in the world. And it made me want to play chess. - Did you play? - No, I don't like it. - Bro, it's so addicted. - It's hard. - Don't start. - But you got to be smart to do it, dude. - I can't. - No, no. - Yeah, dude. - You think so? - Yeah, to make moves, what is it called? - Queen of chess. - Queen of chess. - Dude, you got to watch it. - Wait, I saw Queen's Gambit. - No, that's the TV show, dude. But that was good. - Queen of chess? - Yeah, Queen of chess. - It's a documentary. - Yeah, what was her name? - By it. - It's about Hungarian Prodigy Judith Polgar. - Yeah, Judith Polgar. - I don't know. - Judith Polgar. - I haven't heard of it, but I need to check it out. - She's the shit. She's probably one of the greatest chess players that ever walked there. - Better than Magnus. I'm a big Magnus guy. - You're a Magnus guy? - Yeah. - Look, he's one of the best. What about Bobby Fisher? Are you a fish dog? - Ah. - You don't like fish? - Well, what's his name? - Bobby Fisher. - First name. - Robert. - Bobby. - Bobby. - And you don't like anybody named Bobby. - No. - It brings me back to a very dark place. - So no one named Robert Bobby can get by you. - No, 'cause I had a falling out too with Logic, whose name is Bobby as well. - Yeah, Bobby, that's his name too. - Yeah, we had a big falling out. - What, you did his move? - He was supposed to be in a two, no? - No, we were on the road. I couldn't do it. I was on tour. - He big time, didn't. - Nah, dude. - Bobby came and he sat in a hotel room. He claimed I gave him fucking monkey pox. It was fucking bullshit. I only had one, there was only one, I think it was just, it was one notch. I saw, he sent me a photo. But he got really sick, dude. - Yeah, he, like, his lips got all like swollen and sealed up. I thought, maybe I was a mosquito, but I don't think so, dude. It didn't look like it. Did you get it? Is it still there? - I don't want to show it. - No, that's fine, long sleeve only. I didn't do Bobby's movie 'cause I was out of town. I was on tour, man, we couldn't do it. - Wait, Bobby, which, Bobby Lee? - Logical, logic. - Logical. - Logical, sorry, logic. - See, you're thinking in chess terms now? - No, I want to be logical when I'm talking about moving upon. No, I wanted to do logic's movie and I couldn't. I was on tour, but you had a beef with him because of what happened on set. - Yeah, we got a falling out. - It was bad, right? It was really bad and then he came after me and basically we had actual falling out because we were both playing Red Rocks And we were both slated to play the same day So remember last time when I came to bad friends I tried to get Bobby. Yep, Bobby Lee. Yep. To open up for me at Red Rocks He wouldn't do it big time me Yeah, I don't like that kind of behavior man that dude and I was giving him the opportunity of a lifetime But he plays for what 10 and 20 guys playing the same material 30 people 30 people and he's getting naked every night Every night. He still does that every night. How is that legal? For short statured Asian men it is still legal in the United States. It's a size thing It is 100% and he's allowed to smoke cigarettes while he does it Yeah, oh yeah indoors indoors because it's part of the act part of his act. Yeah. Is that actually legal? Yeah, it is what about when there's kids in the audience birthday party's King's and he's 18 over Got to be 18 and over and he doesn't do King's and he errors anymore He stopped after the accident because after the accident got bad at the park It's bad. He fell and it was bad for people that don't know Bobby got hurt He did of Keen's in Yara Five to seven years ago something about that. Yeah, and they had It was all in the news. Well, yeah, it made KTLA. Yeah, they had blindfolded a couple of kids They were swinging at a pin yada and one of them Took off the blindfold and he said look they got a human pin yada and they started swinging at Bobby And this kid beat him within an inch of his life. To a pulp really I mean he was his fault and to the thing is the crazy part is it actually helped the protrusion And for oh, yeah from his galactical. Yeah, yeah, it did definitely help But um and god bless that young man that did that it wasn't his fault, you know, he didn't know he didn't know what he was doing Yeah, cuz yeah the kid had glasses. He was he was legally blind. Yeah, his right eye was legally blind But I'm getting text and I need to call your doctor dude in here We pull with who the NBA playoffs are here You can predict the playoff action all the way to the finals with Fan-dual predicts all you have to do is sign up to get your $25 bonus. 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They're not supposed to be texting me. Why did your doctor text you? That's what I'm saying. I just said I'm gonna point me in the ride you did riding over here I'm making calls bro like a mogul how cool was red rocks by the way. I hate it. What? Wow, I played it like three four times now. Why do you hate it bad memories? Bad memories of what? No one came. It was empty. Damn dude. No, there was like 15 people there. But it's like it's like I think you can have like eight and a half nine thousand. How many people is red rocks but I want to say it's gotta be ten thousand shy and it was like 9555 and that's what I'm saying bro and how many people came 525. There was like 25 people there. It felt so weird bro. It's eerie when it's empty like that. But you did it again anyway. Just to see just to see man. Will you do it again? Yeah dude you got it. But next time you're opening up. We could do with mastercar we could get some kind of dude brand partnership. We have a deal. I think we have a deal with we have a deal with diners club diners club. Yeah. Is that like the big bear diner? Yeah big bear diner. They have their own credit card system. Really? Yeah. Wait are you actually tied to the credit card companies? We're very tight. We're tied very deep. Well because McCone is in 175,000 dollars in debt we said we would work it off by doing ads. Right. For diners club. That's very kind here. We did MX. We did Visa. We did discover. Mastercard. Mastercard. And now we're doing the diners club. The Bears Club diners club. That's so dope. But we paid off half of it. Which is kind of great. How long did that take? Six years, six years, five and a half years. So we have if we do this for five more years we'll be able to pay off McCone's debt. And most of his debt went to well what he spent all the money on was buying flights for himself to go overseas to help victims of tragedies. So we thought they would wash it. Dude you're a stand up guy. Thank you. Yeah. Anytime there was anything bad around the world he'd get on a plane and go over there and help anytime. Name a time that was bad around the world. Go ahead. World tour too. Guess who was there McCone. You were alive. Yep. Yep. That's fucking crazy. See you look younger than you are. Moisturized dog. He moisturizes. If you're good, the good person you don't age. You don't age if you're a good person. That's why you look super super young. Stop. You're a good dude. Well that's why Bobby looks old and haggard. And how old is he? Isn't he like 17 or 18? How old is Bobby? And no one knows. Nobody knows. He's got to be at least 70 or 80 years old. He's got to be in his 60s. I think he is. I mean we don't really talk about it. We don't really know. Right. It's kind of a sensitive topic for him too. Yeah tremendously. Yeah it is very nice. He's aging horribly. Some people don't get old well. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's one of them. He's the one I guess if you looked it up. Who's the most famous blind guy on earth? Stevie Wonder. Right. Stevie Ray Vaughan. Stevie Wonder. What's the guy? Ray Charles. Stevie Ray Charles. Wonder. Ray Charles is buying too right? Yeah but he is he dead? Yeah. But isn't it they say the whole thing was Stevie Wonder? It was fake. I don't know. They found out. Well let me tell you something. I was at a restaurant not too long ago and someone at our table was not from America. Sweet girl. She didn't really speak English. She was with a friend of ours and someone on the table goes oh my god is Stevie Wonder and she turned around and she waived right out of it. No fucking way. I swear to God that's a true story. She waived right out of it. Yeah. He was there. Yeah at this restaurant we went to and guess what? Who was the spot right here in Hollywood? Jesus but he waived back. He waived back. Are you fucking kidding me? I think he's a liar. Bro that's what I'm saying. There was a lot of old things because I knew someone who played a concert with them and he was walking up on the stage and then he said keep walking. So he said just pass. So he's a liar. No I don't know if he's a liar. Okay so how about this? So he's a seer. Well here's a thing. He's a seer. To be considered legally blind. You can still sometimes see shapes. It's not like you're just seeing pitch black. Some people do see pitch black. Yeah. Do they? Yes some people are completely blind. Can we look that up? Yeah what are the populations here that's completely blind? I don't know if that's true. Do you have trouble with your vision? I have really bad vision actually. I recently because I'm getting older. I think I don't I haven't done a test but I need glasses like I'm having trouble reading what even that says on the wall. Wow. What does that say in the yellow? Can you see can you read that? Is that a kill bill poster? Yeah kind of. What is it? It's a it's a poster from Kid Super the designer. Do you know that kind of Kid Super? He's the man. Well I see what you're rocking. Who shirt is that? Teddy fresh. TF dude. You're a big Teddy fresh guy. Always I've been. You live in Teddy fresh. No I only so I stopped buying clothes a long time ago and I stopped choosing what to wear. I have about four shirts two of them are Teddy fresh. What are the other two? One I shouldn't say but I got a communist shirt. It's so hard but I was in Vietnam. Oh yeah. And everywhere you go full communist symbols everywhere. I just got it because I thought it looked really incredibly aesthetically speaking. I don't consider myself a communist in any capacity. I'm a capitalist. You're a capitalist for sure. You love. Through and through I love cash but I don't actually care anymore. I've been very much uninterested. I'm semi retired. Do you think it's because you've made too much money? I made too much and it was too much at one time. Right. And then it kept coming. What was your most successful months financially? Because I had heard rumors on the internet and I don't know if this is crazy. What did you hear? 17 million in one month. Are you laughing is it more than that? Oh shit. Bro that's literally that what we do in a week off the merch. Whoa. Whoa 17 million a week is what you're making. No that was not my peak bro. Oh oh oh that was not my peak. But where did all the cash go? I don't really want to talk about it. That's fine man. We did a thing. Are you familiar with Bernie Madoff? No. So he's a financial advisor. What's his name? Bernie? Yeah. Madoff. Bernie Madoff. Okay. It's a pretty famous story. Bring him a picture for the audience Joe if you can so we can see who it is. Bernie Madoff. So I started working with this through my aunt. She lives in Florida. Okay. And she connected me to Madoff. Right. And so he was doing all my financial advising. - And there was a brief stint where-- - Oh no, I don't like where this is going. - Basically, I just, during my pinnacle, we were making close, you know, 72 million. - 72 million, what month? - A month, wow. $72 million a month you were making. No, what is the math then? How much is that? - It's 864 million a year. 864 million a year, you're making 72 million a month. 864 million for the year. Damn. - Yeah, can you just talk, I don't really want to talk about what happened with Matt off, but I'm getting-- - That's fine. - I'm getting a little worked up here, but if you want to just share a little bit about what happened, that's the tradition. - I think you went to prison. - He went to jail. - Yeah. - For what? - For-- - Don't tell me some weirdo shit. - What did he do? - Just embezzlement or something. - Financial embezzlement? Oh, so you-- - Oh no, a big Ponzi scheme, I guess. - Oh my God, dude. So would you think-- - It was all gone. - You lost all your fortune to him? - Everything, yeah. - How much you think? - He was using my money to pay off other people. You know what they say, say Robin Peter to pay Paul. That's the old phrase. - That was the whole fucking scheme. - Robin, take money from one person and pay the next and get everyone to make it look like that they're making their money back, but there was some of the bigger fishers such as myself and some of my associates. (laughing) - And so because of Mr. Maddoth, you lost $800 million. - It says here, his Ponzi scheme involved the total fraud of nearly 65 billion. - Yeah. - And the largest from a single anonymous person around $864 million. - You're this anonymous person, dude? I'm, this is a trip. I never knew that. - I don't know, can we just talk about that? - Yeah, we know, we can move on. I'm sorry about that. - Well, I don't wanna put your business out there. We can cut that kind of stuff. - You can't be. - You can put it in, I don't give a fuck. - It's already, it's water under the bridge. People already know about this. - Damn. I'm sorry, dude. - Yeah. - Not good. It's good. - What's been going on otherwise, man? Is everything good, life wise? Like, ladies? What's going on with the ladies? - I'm good, man. - He's disturbed, dude. It's just been a long fucking week, bro. - I know, you haven't been sleeping or nothing. - Yeah. - What are you excited about right now? Is there anything? - Just chess. - Just chess? - Yeah. - Nothing else is entertaining right now. - Not really. - I hate to see you like this, dude. You seem super upset. - No, it's just, I've been kind of going through. I don't really want to get into it. It's kind of just personal. You don't really like to talk about your personal life, right? - Yes, I do. If you wanna share, let's share. What's your wife's mother's maiden name? - Her, wait, you mean my wife's maiden name or my wife's mom's maiden name? - My wife's mom's maiden name is it Skalango. Skalango is, it's, I mean, I don't know do I have to explain this. - Yeah. - You don't know what Skalango is? - No. - Skalango is, you're making that up. - Skalango? - Yeah. - What? - It's not even a real word. - It's a last name. - Okay. - Skalango, it means little shoe. - Okay. - Skalango, in Patoa, it means little shoe. - Wait, so she had a small foot? Well, one of her foot was clubbed. - Really? - Was that intentional? - Yeah. (laughing) - Well, you know how they do that? Certain places, they put the, they clubbed her foot. Certain places, they take the kids foot, they put it into a super small shoe. - Yeah, they did that and they bronzed it. - Bronzed the shoe. - Yeah, they bronzed the shoes and they keep 'em. They played 'em bronze. - You know how they do it with watermelons? They put 'em in a shape. - In a square box. - And a girl's yellow. - And a square. - But you know why someone like you has never been put in a box? - Why? - 'Cause you're not a square dude. - Stop. - You say that to all the guests. - Do I? No, you're a free flowing guy. You're one of these people. The reason your name is Oliver Tree is because your brain works like a tree. - Well, it digs deep down into the earth, receives the nutrients it needs from society and the earth and gifts everyone air to breathe. And that air that you make is music. - Well, actually it was gonna be all of your twist, but that was taken. - Well, yeah, that's a very famous-- - That was kind of the origin. - You know how I got my name? - Oliver? - No. - Tree. - Tree? - Yeah. - So my father. - Great dude Taco Bell dog. - Yeah. What's my father's name? - Huh? - You know my father's name? - Yeah. - Joshua. - Joshua. - Whoa. - Joshua Tree? - Shit. - Yeah, he was the guy who initially found, well technically he's the fourth. So Joshua Tree was his father's father. - So Joshua Tree the area was named after your great grandfather? - Yeah. - What? - Technically my great-great-but-my-fathers-great-grandfather. - Wow. - Yeah. - So like we have ties that go back to the desert. So Oliver Tree? - Yeah. - I was the only other kid in the family who every year would be given a gift of a tree. - How many trees, so you have a lot of trees? - Oh yeah, I have a vineyard. - Wow. - Yeah. I have olive trees, so if you go to Joshua Tree and you go near the side and your India. - Yeah. - That's where, so have you seen the part when you're driving through, have you been? - A bunch. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Beautiful place. - It's gorgeous. - So you know how there's all of the wind turbines? - Oh yeah? - Yeah, that's my uncle's. - Your uncle owns all the wind turbines in the desert? - Holy crap. - Yeah. - And then, I guess I didn't know you were, I mean, you're kind of like a nepo baby, right, isn't he? - A little bit, is that offensive? I mean, I didn't know you had the game like that. - It's not, I don't, it's not offensive. It's just part of my lineage, it's old money. - It is very old money. - So my uncle, he has all of the turbines, right? - So all the wind turbines out in the desert are your own. - No, just the ones near India. - Okay. - Yeah, that's where they actually like, they all are. - Well a lot. - There's still a lot. We actually have my family has some in England off the coast, they're actually in the water too, and we have some in Sweden as well, they're in the water. - So we have different ones, but these ones are probably our biggest group of turbines. So if you actually go about six miles down to the northern side of India. - Yeah. - That's where my olive tree vineyard is. - Can anybody go? - Yeah. - We sell olive oil by the pound. - You do? - Yeah. - And we do coffee as well. Actually, are you familiar with the Indonesian style of coffee, where the cats eat it, and then they poop out the coffee beans? - No. - Yeah, we started doing that last April. - No, I have heard of that where animals will eat the bean, eat the raw bean, and then they'll poop out the coffee bean. - Right. - Because their body can't digest the beans. - Yeah, but it decels it. So it gets rid of everything else. - It decels it gets rid of all the toxins, covers it. - And there's obviously. - Okay, so but yeah, but when it comes out as poop on it, what do you do with the poop? You have to use it for something. - Yeah. - We use it for the fertilization of the olive trees. So it's all full circle. - Right. - Basically, the entire piece is very sustainable from the environment. That's why we do the wind turbines. We actually are doing everything in house. So we're self-reliant, self-sustainable. - Right. - We're self-reliant, we're self-sustainable. We have everything we need. Basically, if the end of the world is coming, the apocalypse, whatever, bro, we have got you covered. - Well, this is a dumb question, but I'm not a smart guy. - There's no dumb questions. - Well, this is gonna. If you use the poop to fertilize the olive tree, does the olive oil taste like. - It has a bit. - No, it's a spice. - Oh, okay. - It's a spicy kind of taste. It doesn't. - Yeah, but the most smell really bad. - Well, and that's the reason why my uncle built the turbines in the first place. It actually blows all of the smell, all the scent, down south to India. So if you look at it, it's actually pointing towards the southern direction, which actually blows it down through the canyon, over the mountainways. - So it's just riding that way. - It was designed. The actual setup there was not a valley. We carved that out ourselves. You've seen how they did it in the Panama Canal? - I've seen some of the videos, yeah. - Yeah. - Same setup. - Same kind of setup. - Same team. So the French actually tried to do that initially. - Yeah. - Didn't work out. Americans came in, and we actually finished the Panama Canal. Have you been? - I've been one time, but I didn't know we finished that. - Yeah, we did that. - Wow. - And it was the same team that actually helped build out. 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There are no dumb questions. Well, when your uncle passes, will you get all that land? >> Presumably, I'm first in lineage to be able to accept that, but I have to ask my grandfather. >> Uh-huh. >> Joshua? >> Is he still alive? >> Yeah. >> Oh. >> Yeah, he's still ticking. >> I've heard a lot of rumors about family lineages being connected to like, you know, I don't want to say it, but like the Kennedys, and also, you know-- >> Rockefellers? >> Some of the Rockefellers are like, I didn't want to say anything. What the Rothschilds like, your family does have a direct connection to all these people. >> We do. >> Yeah. >> So, there was a rumor. >> Yeah. >> Could be true. Could be a lie. >> Mm-hmm. >> Come on, remember. People always have said that the statute of liberty was a gift from France, but apparently-- >> Right. >> Technically, that's where people have it mixed up. So, my family, if you look at the actual lineage of the Joshua trees, okay, we're French, but technically we're French-Canadian. >> Oh. >> So, what a lot of you will have it mixed up is they think that the French gifted the statute of liberty, but it was actually the French-Canadians who gifted it, and it was my grandfather, and it was a team of individuals. >> Wow. >> A Frenchman? >> But, do you know Jean-Rocke? He was one of the--he was a king of France? >> No. >> He was a mentor of mine. >> He was my mentor. I worked with him in Antarctica for a long stint. >> Oh, wow. >> You're not familiar? >> Unfortunately, no. >> Oh, you should know. >> You should know him. >> Really? Jean-Rocke. >> Jean-Rocke. >> Yeah. >> But anyways, he's French, but he technically is from Canada, so he's a French-Canadian, but in the opposite way. >> But he's the one that helps your grandfather bring the statute of liberty over. >> No. >> He's just a man that you worked with. >> Yeah. >> Oh. Well, of some of the other big modern marvels, I would say, you know, they say the world's fair. >> Right. >> And we're all familiar with the world's fair. >> Well, and there's been many. >> I know. But your family has had a hand. >> Wow. >> I'm not trying to blow your spot up. Your family, we've looked it up, has had ties with the world's fairs. >> Every world's fair. >> We missed the 1914 because my uncle was training for the Olympics. And then also there was the 1962, which that one was just because the fees were so outrageous and there was actually a boycaughting what my family called it. We were boycaughting the world's fair that year. >> Wow. >> Yeah. I mean, I hate to pry, but I feel like I've known you for a while, but I never knew the depth of your family. >> And that's the thing. I'm so much more than that. >> You are. I'm not saying you're- >> I don't like to be kind of like just talking about my family because I'm not like trying to be a nepo baby. I'm not trying to be a cloud chaser. I'm not trying to be like, you know, oh yeah, like my family did this, like I already did enough on my own, standing on my own. >> Well, you did everything on your own. >> And I did it all myself. >> Well, like because you know there's a bunch of enemies that you have in the music business and they're all nepo babies. >> Dude, and that's the thing, bro. And these guys, bro, they're so, so full of themselves, they don't even write their own music. They don't produce their own beats. My album that I made, Lovey Madly, Hey, Badly, I produced entirely by myself. Got one person help. >> No, one fucking person. My engineer, he helped mix it with me and I recorded all the vocals, but he helped record some of the guitars, but I produced it, engineered most of it myself, mixed it with it. >> Wrote every song. >> Wrote every lyric, every melody, every instrument, I wrote every single thing, played every instrument. >> What's the name of the song? >> The name of the song. >> The album you like the most. >> It kind of comes down between two songs, but right now I'm leaning towards one. It's called Sweet Child of Mine. >> Sweet Child of Mine. >> Okay. >> What's this, are you a father? I actually don't know that. >> I don't really like to talk about my personal life. I'm okay with talking about lineage, but I don't like to bring in the family, but I have two sons and a daughter. >> Okay. >> So Sweet Child of Mine, about your son or daughter, I don't want to pry, but that's beautiful, it's a great title. >> You think so? >> Yeah. It's a good song title. I mean, how many songs have you written that never made it out? >> It's really close to, I would say at least 3, 4,000, probably 3,500. >> 4,000 songs, I've never -- >> For sure. >> For sure. >> Wow. And all by you, no other -- >> Just me. I mean, I used to write music with my friends, but I would write every lyric, every melody. That's one thing I always stayed true to. >> Sure. >> But I would let my other friends, like I can play guitar, I played guitar on my platinum songs. I've played piano on my platinum songs, but someone's better at playing it. Let the motherfucker play. >> Let them play. >> Yeah. And all those songs that you've written and not put out, will they ever have a chance to see the light of the day? >> I highly doubt it. >> Right. I highly doubt it. And I actually, you know, I've written something into my will and testament, which basically explains that when I die, everything comes out. >> Wow. >> So, yeah. >> Why is it a will and testament? >> Well, that's the thing. So I don't know if you know this. >> I don't. >> My grandfather. He was a lawyer. So, him and another team of lawyers, I'm not going to take all the credit for him, but, and this is not on the tree side, by the way. This isn't Joshua Tree. This is on my mom's side. >> Oh, your mother's side. Yeah. >> Team of lawyers, he worked closely with. He was leading. It was just a name that they used to say amongst each other. It was just a name they would use amongst each other, and it just stuck. >> You're involved in so many aspects of the business. The one thing that I think I'm most impressed by is all the things you've turned down, like all of the movies, TV shows, features on other people's albums. I mean, the internet is really aware of this of how much stuff you've turned down. >> I mean, a lot of it is public knowledge. >> Well, because people get upset that they can't work with you, they'll offer you massive stuff on the stars born on the Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. >> You were originally commissioned to write the song, "Four Lady Gaga." >> Well, not originally commissioned, I actually was paid to do it. >> Oh, they paid you to do it. >> Yeah, I got paid in full. >> That was original commissioned then. >> Four Lady Gaga. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> I actually, I know I wrote some of her earlier stuff. >> You know poker face? >> Poker face, that's one of her like- >> Rum, bum, rum, bum. >> That's you wrote that, and you're, wow. But how come you're not credited, did you not want credit or result- >> No, I mean, I'm credit on the back end. >> It's called ghost writing. >> Talked artists about that. >> With the same team, we used to do stuff for Drake. We did a bunch of stuff for the Migos. Yeah, I wrote a lot of songs in the early 2000s that were pretty big as well. >> And you choose to not attach yourself to them because of what- >> It's a vanity thing. I don't really want to be associated with the pop, stardom type of thing. I keep it low key. >> But you don't think you're a pop star or you're a pop star? >> No, no, definitely not. I'm low key. >> But what do you consider yourself? You're not a pop star? You know, I don't like to put labels on things. I'm fluid, you know, I'm very open-minded and I like all styles. So if you look at my catalog, especially my gold platinum stuff for the Oliver Tree Project, which is, you know, in comparison, pales in comparison. But, you know, the teams I worked with to write those songs. And I was writing primarily as a songwriter, lyricism, with the Lady Gaga stuff, with the Drake stuff, all of that stuff that I did with them, it just doesn't feel the same. Because it's not truly raw authentic shit, it's a team of 20 people. But if you look at the splits, I have the lion's share. >> You do more than any of those guys. >> Oh yeah. >> Because, I mean, you've got, I have upwards 65, 70% some of these. But some of them, it's 52, 53, I always make sure if I'm going to be brought on as a songwriter, I always take the lion's share. That's one of my only rules. >> Well, that makes sense. I mean, look at some of this stuff. Like, this is, you know, miss you has 800 million streams. >> That's it really? >> I thought it was at a billion by now. >> It's not. >> Well, I think combined it has like four billion or something, if you look at YouTube and everything. >> Apple music, desert, Spotify. >> Do you use Wigger? >> No, I had to stop using it after what came out. >> Yeah. >> But it was a good streaming service for a while. >> It was, it was pretty good, yeah. >> But we had to stop using once we found out about the founder. >> Not cool, as the way I'll phrase it. There's one question I have about, and the oldest album that you have that's available up online right now. There is a song on here, and I'm just curious about this because I feel like you should, where is it? Here we go, 2000, there it is, 2016. On when I'm down, there's a B side to this single, which is really strange that you put that on the internet. >> What was it? >> Because a lot of people don't do that. >> What? >> So when I'm down, one of his most famous songs people know. >> Well, that was the first song I recorded as all of your tree and released, and I made it in a walking closet, and now it's platinum. Indie release, no major label, no support, just me and my homie. My friend was 14 at the time when he produced. >> Well, see how old were you then? >> I was probably, this was, I was probably 30. >> Right. >> 30 zoo. >> 32, 33. >> 33 maybe. >> There's a B side to this, and it says, give me perks. >> Right. >> Well, I was going through a pretty dark time. >> So you were addicted to perks out of that? >> I was addicted to perks, oxys, oxycodone. >> Hey. >> Yeah, we did a lot of that, I was a tweaker. >> You were a big tweaker then. >> Oh yeah, a big time. >> How did you kick it, the tweaking? >> Just cold turkey. You ate cold turkey. Yeah, well it started two days before things giving so we did cold turkey diet So that it's a trip to mean trip to fiend is it trip to mean or trip to fiend trip to fiend Yeah, I was fucking on that shit bad bro. So they use trip to fiend. Yeah, in other types of How do we say this? I'm not sure if this will get censored, but other types of Replacement drugs. Oh, oh synthetics and stuff like that. Synthetics designer drugs, you know I'm not sure if you're familiar with designer drugs. Yo, yeah, like Louis Vuitton and stuff like that. Yeah, Gucci drugs Yeah, do you know about the designer stuff the stuff that's made in laboratory Made by designer companies like Gucci for sure. They put it on press pills. They put their logos. They sell this shit out and Gucci makes those pills. Yes If you look it's the same factories. They produce not only the original Gucci bags They produce the counter fizz and then they're on the side Some of these places are doing press pills Gosh, yeah, yeah, I haven't heard some wild stuff like that like Apple the phone. We all have Apple phones It's actually an Apple company Apple company. It's an orchard tree company. Yeah, which is I'm sure he was friends with my My father. Oh, you know them. Well, I don't know them personally, but my friends are very close Yes, yeah, that's the thing that people don't know is Apple made was a tree farm company for years They had Apple or Steve Jobs in Wozniak that actually both grew up on a orchard. They grew up on a valley Well, got us just down the street from where I grew up My grandfather is Santa Cruz, right Santa Cruz, which is just over the side of the mountain highway 17 And so my father he grew up in Las Vegas. He went to Lehigh and he actually went to high school with Steve Jobs in Wozniak Shut up. Yeah, so this is kind of how this whole thing started? Well, no because my grandfather actually had his foot and his finger on the pulse of the early onset of Silicon Valley It's so funny people don't really know you the way they think they know you like this is this stuff I feel like you haven't really revealed a lot. I just I prefer not to because you have to understand like there's a time in a place for everything Yeah, and like I'm just trying to be me, you know, and I want to be authentically me and I want to be all of your I don't want to be Joshua tree. Well, you're not you're your own man. I mean what like if you want to be you What do you scream from the rooftops at night? Who who is that? What do you say? What do you say? Right right. Oh, right. I'm right. I'm right That's what I say and that's the thing my grandfather he was very instrumental with telling the guys telling who was Niax specifically he said to them look guys there is an entire future that's gonna take place he was the precursor This is precursing the Internet you he actually had some ideas that turned and manifested into the early onset of the bubble of The the Silicon Valley bubble. Yes, the Silicon Valley bubble that bursted in 1986 My grandfather had precursor ideas of all this shit, bro He had literally written out he was literally like a Michelangelo of this shit. So you think he had some knowledge that other people No, I mean he not think I know he actually worked closely with Satoshi How do they know him? I? Can't speak all right. I don't want to but yeah, he was involved with the early onset of Bitcoin Holy crap. Yeah, and the reason why Bitcoin crash Lot of my family sold three months ago you don't have any coin left No, I don't have any coin left Because you got rid of it all it's not insider trading because technically we manipulate the market as the we see fit We need to purge some of the market to get it cleanse get some of the people who are just fair-weather fans coming in there Well, that's just like cleaning out your fridge if something's expired you got to throw it out You're not gonna eat it. It's not a why why leave it in there you don't do you do not leave that? That's spoiled right you throw it away. It's old milk. So you do I do get that Cleansing and then one the market crashes we buy big you have to buy huge Every time we buy more we buy double technically. I mean it was at what one twenty one one thirty Yeah, maybe one thirty. Yeah, now it's what sixty there was a rumor that for a long time you were paying People in your circle because you've got Four assistance two drivers a chef like you have a huge entourage You were paying people in Bitcoin. Well, no That's lie. That's not true. That's not entirely not true. Okay. We were using each so aetherium Yeah, those of you at home ETH. Yep, and so we would paint we would actually technically use a cleanser So we would take it decrypt it. Oh put it in an unencrypted wallet turn it into eath sell it to eat buy it back and then flip it and then we would send to the guys There was this money was so untraceable No one had any idea where the show's coming from or how much it's worth well precisely Wow, so we could pay a dollar dime a dollar effectively you were like underpaying your whole staff Well, look, it's on them, you know bro look it up use a fucking index Not that complicated. No, it's not fucking rocket science. It's out which by the way all my mom's side My grandfather worked for Lockheed Martin And he took a lot of the stuff he worked on to the grave and this is actually factual information so no one can speak all right He wasn't allowed to talk about the shit he was doing because It was working with alien technologies and when I say alien I don't mean UFO mumbo jumbo I mean he was working without of this world stuff bro like alien stuff precisely I mean, I don't know why you haven't made an album about that. Well, I did bro I made an entire album it got shelf by the label. Oh, and by the way The label forgot to release my song before Valentine's day They just forgot to ingest it into the system and my fans are saying to me all over your album campaign is so dog shit The label doesn't even care to ingest my music into the system. We know who's responsible for that man The higher ups How many people are out of this label? I don't know, but they fired everyone hired new people I don't know the level of incompetence is out of this fucking insane. That sounds foolish You put out a you made us you made a valentines day song made a valentines day song about breaking up on valentines day and they forgot to release it And bro and that reminds me like the stuff the system dude. Yeah, that's the broken system That's a broken system and it's the same systems that both my grandfather's face during world war one and world war two through the Korean war right And this is where you've come out though. You've come out the other side being the artist your sick of getting screwed over You have to have a voice. I'm still getting bent over by these big pharma. Right big pharma. It's for specifically because it's the labels It's big pharma and then of course big banks big banks. That's why I moved all my money into crypto So now we sold you sold high. So where do you keep your funds now? I can't disclose that why the fuck would I say that? I don't mean to pry. I just think it's interesting people want to know you You don't mean to pry but you're asking me the fucking shit so the world can hear Well, I mean bro you're a smart dude people want to follow in your footstep I know but you have to understand you have to pay for my courses to do that I don't just give this shit out willy nilly for anyone like yourself Andrew If you want to pay for my 16 week course, you can go on and follow my website for my seminars and weekly Information that gets disclosed, but I'm not just giving that out on your shitty little podcast for free Well, then people should click on the link and they can go to your seminar Well, they can also go on my tours. They can go get the album. They can do whatever But none of that matters because what it comes down to is intention. What's your intention? I don't have one. I mean, that's oddly very powerful. It's almost like, you know, not believing is believing you know I do have one phrase that I always say what is it? What is it? This is something I will give every this is on the course is covered in the 16 week course But there is a famous quote That actually a lot of people don't know the origins, but if you trace back and you look back You can actually find this in one of my grandfather's sermons your mom's side of your dad's side mom's side Not Joshua tree so There's a famous quote and it goes it's better to have love he who he who He who mucks He who smelt it He who smelt it delta he who smelt the delta That's from the Lockheed Martin guy Back came from the higher ups of Lockheed Martin And that's the kind of shit they're taking all of your ideas are scrambling your little heads Messing with you and then meanwhile you're a little ponding this game and they're doing such crazy You can't even begin to imagine Andrew You can't even begin to imagine the shit these guys at Lockheed Martin are doing I mean are we in danger? Oh, yeah Are you in danger very much so Do you have an exit plan? I have two Okay, can you share them? Okay, here's the thing. Are you familiar with AI a little bit. Okay. You know about ASI KSI the switch. Oh dude ASI Artificial super intelligence. No There's a GI artificial general intelligence. So what you need to understand is the people who are the most concerned are guys like me billionaires Okay, we're fucking scared for our fucking lives bro because the second the ASI Artificial super intelligence is created People's jobs are obsolete. Yeah people are fucking no idea what they're gonna do with their time And guys like me We're the fucking targets. So we're building bunkers underneath our ground. Okay, Zuck just built one. Are you buddies? Of course We actually went to UFC. We were Danny giving just tickets we had front row. - So me and Zuck, we both build bunkers. He did his and Kauai. - Why do you think Musk is building a fucking rocket ship? It's not for fucking interest of keeping humanity alive other than him and his little grubby buddies. - So will you not be a part of that? - Hell no. - Exodus. - The fucking level of the toxicities in the environment being expelled by these ships, bro. And this is the same shit that the folks at Amazon did. The same shit, you know when they sent those astronauts up into the sky for about 30 minutes. - Yeah. - Do you know how much waste was created, Andrew? - I mean, a couple of. - Bro, millions of gallons of water gone down the drain for just one AI prompt, millions, bro, millions. And I'm not over exaggerating. I take this very serious. - I can tell, no, I know. - I looked into the quantum engineering. I actually run a spa in New York where we heat the water up with Bitcoin mining. The computers are so warm, we heat the water up that way. Just because we want to be good for the environment to use the electricity for something positive so people can use. And this is a public space, Andrew. - Right, a spa. - Precisely. - So I'm trying to give back, you know. I'm not trying to get worked up here. I'm getting a little bit angry. - Yeah, you're getting a little heated. - But I'm just trying to give back because I don't want you to put me in the same breath of a conversation with Musk, with Elon. - But you are a billionaire. I mean, you're up there with the-- - That's, yeah, but that's not here or no there because I use my power for good. I know, but how much money have you been giving away money or are you just keeping it? - I'm keeping it. - But wait, when I die, I've created my foundation and this is factual. If you look up the public records, I have started my foundation, Dr. Oliver Trees Foundation for Baby Geniuses. When I die, every penny I have every money that gets made from not just the music that I wrote for Oliver Trees, but the stuff I did for Gaga or for Drake, for the entire industry. For, for, let's not forget when I made goosebumps by Travis Scott, okay? That's you. Yeah, I made humble by Kendrick. Why I produce some of the drums on it. But when my residuals come in month after month, when I am continuously making this, when my dead body is still just in the earth and obviously be a cryogenically frozen, but when I am sitting there in that cryogenic chamber, what will happen with the cash? All of it is gonna go to Dr. Every penny I make, and I have a whole board of 16 people, my closest collaborators while I'm alive, all of them will be deciding and when they don't want to work on the committee anymore, they have the chance to give their role and their seat up to someone else to be a part of the chair. But I have this all fully documented in your will and testament. Precisely, Andrew. Man, I gotta, I gotta tell you, every time I see you, I learn more about you, I learn more about the universe, I learn more about America. I learn more about where we're going. You gotta see the other thing I'm very patriotic. So I do intend to give some money back to the big war industry, which I didn't, I covered the big three, the big banks, Big Pharma, and also what was the third? You do, it's Big Banks, Big Pharma. - Big labels. - Big Pharma, big labels. - But big war, that was my, that's where I really got started. - You really got started, big war. - So where I got started, Andrew. It's not just where I found myself as a business fan, but also as a politician, as an internet personality. It was funding the wars in the early 2000s. - You didn't have anything to do with September 11th, though. - Can we wrap this up? - Look into that camera. - Let's say one word or one phrase. One word or a phrase to end the episode. - In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. - Oh, that creature in the ginger field. - Sturdy, ginger. - Like that has, the ginger gene is good. - Ginger's a fugitive. - You only five dollars for the whiskey. - 75 dollars for the whole. - Ginger's our hell now. - Swisk and yours, X and Y. - Ginger, I like ginger.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Oliver Tree shares his personal journey, including a deep connection to his family lineage, with ties to French-Canadian heritage and historical events like the Statue of Liberty and world's fairs.
  2. He produced his debut album *Love You, Madly. Hate You Deeply* entirely by himself, writing all lyrics, melodies, and instruments, and emphasizing authenticity over commercial pop stardom.
  3. Tree has a history of substance use, including opioids and designer drugs, and recounts quitting through cold turkey, while also expressing ongoing interest in psychedelics and micro-dosing mushrooms.

Summary:

Oliver Tree, a self-proclaimed independent artist, discusses his rich family background rooted in French-Canadian heritage and historical contributions, including ties to the Statue of Liberty and world’s fairs. He highlights his commitment to artistic authenticity, having produced his entire debut album solo—writing every song, playing all instruments, and maintaining full creative control. Despite early exposure to substance use, including opioids and designer drugs, Tree credits a cold turkey recovery for overcoming addiction.

He also reveals a deep personal connection to music, having written thousands of unreleased songs and choosing to remain low-key in the industry, refusing high-profile collaborations to preserve artistic integrity. His music, like the song "When I'm Down," reflects personal struggles and growth, while his lifestyle includes sustainable practices, such as using cat-feces fertilized coffee for olive tree farming. Tree emphasizes self-reliance and self-sufficiency, with family-owned ventures like wind turbines in the desert and olive vineyards in India.

A recurring theme is his rejection of commercialization and fame, favoring authenticity and personal growth over fame or pop stardom. His story blends personal resilience, family legacy, and environmental sustainability into a unique narrative of self-made success.

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Oliver Tree is performing on June 28th at the Sound in San Diego, with an early show and a lake show.

Oliver Tree will perform on July 24th at the AmeriStar Casino in St. Charles, Missouri, near St. Louis.

Tickets for Oliver Tree's shows are available at Andrewsantino.com.

The name of Oliver Tree's upcoming album is 'Love You, Madly. Hate You Badly.'

Oliver Tree's name comes from his family's connection to the Joshua Tree, and his father's name was Joshua, making it a symbolic link to the desert region.

Oliver Tree produced his entire album 'Love You, Madly. Hate You Badly' by himself, writing all the lyrics, melodies, and playing all the instruments.

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