“Oh, Look! Spider-Man!” (w/ Kristen Wiig)

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Make money on Depop with no selling fees and find what you want for less. Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, yeah. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Now, where'd you just come from? I just came from my dressing room at SNL. Today was my actual last day. So I had to sneak in there. We're about to go to Japan. Everyone is back at work from hiatus. Everyone's going back today for Monday pitch. But I had to really sneak in there before everyone came back, clearing out my stuff. A lot of. A lot of wonderful detritus. But the biggest thing for me was this. What's this? Original wig mold from the hair department and a little note from Jody Mancuso, the Emmy-winning Jody Mancuso to my bow. And until next time, love, Jody! Oh, my God. This is my head. When you host one day, you have to bring this back. I guess so. But no, this is going in my. This is. Yeah, this is. This has a spot. You know, I. Because I have a little, like, like a hat stand in my apartment, right? Yes, of course. This is the new hat stand. This is perfect. This is perfect for a hat stand because it's your head already. It's absolutely. Oh, my gosh. And is this. Was this where Bowen. Is this where your face would go? That's where. Let's see. Face and eyes? I just want to say face and eyes. Well, I think this is more. The eyes are the eyes of the face. I should get this tattooed on, like, right here. That would be really good. It would be nice. Anyway. And then you start a music career. And then I start a music career. So. But this was all beautifully coincidental because. Isn't it? It is. And it's actually a lot of things about this are kismet-y because I went in and today was, like, the last day to do it. Mm-hmm. And then our guest was coming in today. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. And then as I walked to this building, coming out of her gorgeous motorcade. Many cars. Many cars. It was just one. But coming out of her car was our guest and it was. She was in a gorgeous faux fur. And. Faux! It felt. It felt truly vultures. It felt so. So perfect. You know? Kismet. And then so many things about the guest are perfect. I recently got to have some hijinks with the guest. I would describe our sort of cavorting as Scooby-Doo-esque on the new season of Palme Royale. Oh, my God. I've always wanted to do a stakeout. You got to do multiple stakeouts behind a hedge, in a car. It was wish fulfillment. You got. You were up to hijinks and your ass was up to high cheeks. Damn! Thank you so much. There were a lot of great. Palme Royale season two, episode seven? Yeah. You got to really. This director really loves. I believe the creator of the show. I will say, it's Abe Sylvia. It's Abe Sylvia, the legend. That's who was responsible for this. Frames the male asses in the show with an attention to detail that I would only describe as gay. Heated rivalry-esque. Yes. And I would say that there's clearly a gay guy in charge of the show and behind the camera and writing the scripts and thank God. And actually, I told him, I was like, from one gay guy to another, congratulations. Congratulations. Because this is a gay guy show and I am so happy. I mean, I was watching the episode and it just has the best cast of all time. It's perfect. By the way, you can stream all of it now on Apple TV Plus and get this. They dropped the plus. Oh, Apple TV? There's no plus? There's no plus anymore. That doesn't mean. It's anything less. Just because they've lost their plus doesn't mean they're not a plus. Yes. They're just Apple TV Plus. Still a. Anyways. Anyways. I'm bailing on this. We love you. We love you, Abe Sylvia. Abe Sylvia, a great, great two first names name. Oh, yes, Sylvia sneaking in there with the last name that's a woman's last name most of the time. Most of the time, not always. But I will say there's congratulations in order because we are sitting here with an actor award nominee. Newly meant, newly renamed actor award nominee. And that is a big fucking deal and I have to say I'm not surprised at all because I don't think there's a person in this biz who's more, who elicits a more emphatic, like excited, joyful response than the even idea of our guest showing up. And she has shown up here today a true pal, a true talent and more. Please do yourself, us and more a favor by clapping hands like this in the ways of the seal and exalting the presence of our one and only guest Kristen Wiig! Hi! Oh God, it's so hard to be quiet in the beginning. It's hard to be quiet at all. You did a great job. Oh, I have to turn away and do little side giggles? Yeah, listen, giggle forward from now on. Giggle forward, giggle forward. Oh, you guys, thank you for that intro. Hi, Joanne. Congrats. Thank you. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. And I know that feeling. Yeah. Of cleaning out that room. What was it like? Do you remember that, that moment for you? And I was going to ask, what was your dressing room? Which one was it? I think it's the one Sarah's in now. Oh, that's a good one. Good energy in that one. You go up the stairs, there's the bathroom. I think it's the first one on the left. Yes. Oh, my God. That was a little bit of a party dressing room, I find, because of the way it's located. It was when I was there as well. Well, I'm sure. Yes. And cleaning out my office was hard. Uh huh. Yeah, because you go when you don't do it when everyone's there. So it's haunted. Yeah. And you like come in with a box. Right. You fill it up. And then no one's there. And you're just like, goodbye, building. Well, I said bye to the security guards. And that was nice. Yes, yes. That was very sweet. Do it. Yeah. Come back soon, Bo. And I was like, yeah. Come back soon, Bo. It's all these it's all these seven foot tall. I love them all. Jersey guys. And they've been there forever. And oh, you just feel so safe. Protected. They're incredible. Also, the one icon is Monet X Change's brother. Sean, the best. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah. I. But it also felt like so beautiful and perfect. The perfect period on it was running into you. And I just have to say that, yeah, you were you were the first you were the first alum to impart something to me, which was enjoy the job while you can because you'll miss it every day afterwards. And it's the funnest job in the world. And I was like, yes, Kristen Wiig. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah. And I think it's so easy to like over, especially because of the nature of the show. It's like you don't know what you're doing ever. And like you could have a sketch that works a dress and it doesn't work at it. There's so much like letting go. So it's just like, oh, it's just, you know, not to say it can't be stressful at times, but it's so fun. Yeah. When you boil it down, you're. Yeah, you're just like being dumb. And I want to give a moment to and I told Matt this this morning, I think we need to dedicate some time to the great James Anderson. James Anderson. I could talk about James Anderson the whole time. This is the literal place to do that. And the great Ken Seblatt, like that duo. Yes. But like individually, they are perfect. But together they were they were perfect. I think they were your so these two writers at SNL, your your I think collaborators as well. Yeah, yeah. I got to overlap with them. Yeah. And James. Oh, boy. Names. Just just on a names level. Beginnings Chang. A name. Yeah. Were you beginnings Chang? No, no. That was Maya. That was Maya. Beginnings Chang. Beginnings Chang. Non-Asian. Wait. And what was Keenan's name in? And what up with that? Oh, um, um, um. No, Treece is the one who sings like. You get the idea. You get the idea. But, um, but. Leticia Stroh was Amy Poehler's name. Oh, my God. I was blessed with the James name once. Latoni Garage. And I was a songwriter for Keenan. And Scarlett Johansson's Christmas Elves, who sang like Christmas pop song. Latoni. Latoni Garage. And to back it up with Garage. Latoni Garage. And then he wrote me, I think, sorry to every other writer, including myself, my favorite line I've ever said on that show. I can say that now in posterity, which was as Latoni Garage coming up and saying, this song was an homage to my mother, the mother of the house, Miss Buffay Styles. Yeah. It was written at 5:00 a.m. when I was skiing with Miss. Connie. See what I'm saying? The snow that goes up, Thunderstand. The snorty snow. I'm talking about Krakrain. I have that in my bones. Of course you do. That should be done in schools for auditions. If you're not using that as your monologue to get into NYU Tisch, you're not getting into NYU Tisch. You're not getting into Yale Drama School. You don't have a future. And even now watching, you're just like, I know I had that James. That's James. Kent did that. Kent did that. How often do you watch right now? I will say, as much totally now with with the children well yes because there's like a contingent of alums to like like tina and amy seem to watch it like every week yes and they're like oh that must have moved down from air like or from dress like like they're they're like talking shop yes watching later but like actual saturday night i haven't done that in a in a long time no problem with my little children what are you watching with the kids what's their favorite show do they love miss rachel are they just a little old for miss rachel what's miss gabby's dollhouse oh miss rachel yes yes yes they've seen miss rachel yeah um gabby's dollhouse um they love some paw patrol yeah they love they love wild kratts they do what the hell is wild wild kratts where should i look well tell them tell them well it's these two guys the krat brothers and they talk about an animal i i don't brothers i don't you with them but you know enough to know it's not going to harm the children it's not gonna they take an animal start studying the animal and then they turn animated and oh my god i can't pitch the show then they're animated with the animated animal yeah you know what though what's important is it makes sense to them then they come out here's what it is here's what it is i turn on wild kratts yeah i make sure it's set up yeah and then oftentimes i don't stay no you're not staying so why would you say i'll come back in and be like oh so you learned about lemurs yeah because they're 16 years old who both of your children you go off and you watch something adult you were saying earlier your favorite shows are ncis every franchise every single one i fall asleep yeah just murder adult stuff adults now i can't watch those shows me neither i can't be stressed before bed unless it's women arguing as we know oh yeah we're all big in the house i can't do like murder i can't do scary movies i can't do anything dark it stays in my brain i'm too sensitive you two are kindreds for sure i'm an hsp for sure i can't even do something stressful you know what i'm dying to watch like a baking show like do you find those to be at the stress most stressful programming sometimes i'm like oh the ganache isn't dry or whatever i don't know i don't think i think vanessa hosts the show or she did yes she did host something yes and casey wilson yes uh yes the celebrity oh that's such a dream yeah yeah yeah yeah that's any of any competition because i feel bad for the people it's that i hosted a dog grooming competition show called hot dog like hot couture um so it's no longer on max you may not watch it okay it was it was it was removed it's erased from the internet yeah wow it's completely gone it was me robin feedy and jess rona zaslov said not for me he said this is not good wow these dogs should look like dogs not fashion models okay because one dog they turned into lady gaga another dog they turned into kate gosling 2009 kate gosling yeah yeah and this was recent this was pandemic this so this this literally shocked me shot it's shot in july 2020 it was the only thing shooting in los angeles along with rupaul's drag race it was hot dog and rupaul's drag race and it was it was truly i was like wow we shot like two weeks straight 12 episodes put it on it was like chopped with dog grooming heartbreaking well there's your show yeah chopped and in fact that was the show in fact it was the show cooking show oh with dog grooming you thought you were coming here to be challenged for your dog grooming but in fact make us a cordon bleu while blow drying this poodle this poodle and making them look like see yeah i have ideas but wait i have ideas you were saying this on on amy's podcast that like and i relate to this horror which is that i'm a horrible horrible storyteller like my worst nightmare is explaining oh no it's my worst walking someone through an idea or a narrative and having everyone listen to me while i do it bowen i'm so happy to hear this because do you find people are like that's not true i don't believe you because you can do other things embellished yeah i'm so bad it's my nightmare to be out to dinner and be like oh my god kristin tell the story and i'm like because i i couldn't even describe wild grass you did describe it i kind of described it it's an avant-garde children's show good it's yes it's an animated right and then somehow they come back and then they say thanks for watching yeah i'm happy to know can i say that i'm happy to know that children's programming is still like a little wacko and surreal because i remember when we were younger and you would so it was like disney channel which was a little bit more straightforward and of course this is more like pre-teen program i'm talking about but nickelodeon when we were kids like young young it was cracked i don't know i don't know i don't know the things that would happen in those animated shows like ren and stimpy and like rocko's modern life like this was he felt adult very much so very much so was that on it in the morning i think it was on it wasn't carju network i think it was nickelodeon it was nickelodeon it was nickelodeon in a bar you know what i mean like you'd go into a bar and just like ren and stimpy would be playing that's a cool bar i remember like rocko's modern life there was a scene one time where like rocko got shot out of a cannon and landed thousands of miles away and like the where he landed was with with full force into a huge like hippopotamus's breasts and the hippo said how dare you wow and that was the humor in the program i don't even know what to say there's nothing to say the only thing to do is is really react and take it in and then you process at home yes i can't i let bluey i think is really sweet and i'm watching bluey bluey i i love but i just kind of tv is a time for for mama to rest yeah mama's resting she's watching salt lake you were can you can you talk about this that you were the most starstruck at the culture awards which you were phenomenal and by the way i thank you for doing that thank you for having me and that was such a fun night robin the riddler's assistant i didn't quite realize like how many of them were going to be there oh you mean all all of them i mean how many how many of them are all of them touring in australia with theresa looking down at the seats yeah with the names yeah i didn't i because it's a connection i have with these people but it's broken the the barrier something i i didn't want to cross it yeah you know what i mean like i want to meet them but i don't want to meet you have to be in the tv like you say to those people it's like you but then what i loved was we got to see all the photos afterwards from the green room and you did get each and every one of them and what you know made their life yeah of course i did yeah yeah i wanted to i wanted to meet and greet every one of them yeah but i don't want to ask them questions i don't want to know about the show i don't want to know who knows what before the things like i i don't care what's talked about i don't i don't want to know because you're honoring them i just don't yes because i'm the same way like matt will tell you the this people i'm most stressed around are the housewives 80 brian is the same way she was the same way at that night she's like i can't believe all the salt lake city women are in there just being around sort of running running the whole show was really and by the way made a lot of sense have you started traders no it's the one i haven't started and i i will you're gonna love it where should i start i think i'm just gonna tell this to you because now this is gonna come out like shortly but the thing is like we now um have seen the first three episodes and so everyone out there this isn't a spoiler yeah lisa rinna is a traitor okay they've chosen her as a traitor and it was a euphoric moment for i think anyone watching that knows exactly how well they've done in making this decision but to know that she's going to be in charge of the gameplay see i don't even really know what it's kind of like they just tap your shoulder right and then you're the here let's talk about good look at that camera say what you think traders is no it's everyone lives in a castle yeah hundred percent and people get chosen to like kill people yes you're doing great nobody knows no one knows and even if you are a killer you pretend like you're not a killer yes that's crucial and then you kill them by by by you write them a letter oh you write them a letter no so if you're if you're a traitor you meet in what's called and this is real you meet in what's called the turret at night okay pronounced like turret the turret by alan coming by yes yes scottish icon alan coming and you watch them deliberate on who to kill okay and then the next morning at breakfast everyone shows up and then the person who doesn't show up at breakfast is dead everyone's like it was it was this person and then there's there's also a british and australian version of the show excellent and when people don't come into breakfast the next day and they realize who's murdered people will often say things like and then the the british host is a woman named uh claudia winkleman claudia winkleman who is a kristin wick character that you need to look up claudia winkleman you actually have to oh my god kristin you have to i will because she she walks into breakfast like this and goes the traitors have murdered again this is a tragic of titanic proportions. The traitors are laughing at you. The traitors are laughing. I can hear them laughing. And then Tom Daley from the UK Diver got eliminated. And she comes in and announces he's dead and she goes, he won gold for this country. Is that not enough? He won gold for this country. That wasn't enough? That wasn't enough? Oh no, I need to watch this. Kristen. Okay, can I ask you a question? When you went on as Harry Styles on the Tonight Show, you did not know who Harry Styles was. No, no, no. I knew who he was. I just didn't know anything about him. You didn't know his thing. I knew, same with when I did Michael Jordan. Khaleesi or Michael Jordan. I know who they are, but I don't know. Khaleesi. What are you coming out dressed as tonight? Are you coming out dressed as a. No, I'm myself. You're myself. But we're just doing like a little, you know, let's make fun of Kristen. So speaking of, let's make fun of Kristen. She got the after award nomination. Now take her down a path. Take her down a path. People are soaring too high. Off her pedestal. Get him. Get him. We've been dying to ask you this. Oh my God, what? Because this is a thing that we've quoted in reference for at least, I want to say like seven years in that night. Oh my goodness. You told a story on The Late Show with David Letterman. This is a really important moment. About one of your first jobs in LA being at Universal Studios. Yes. The park. You started, as I can recall, you started off at the, you just called it The Restaurant. You will have to be more specific. Okay. On which restaurant, but we'll get back to that. Yeah. And then you also told the audience, the world, me, that your other job was that you were playing a reporter. A reporter on the lower level trying to get people to come to the X-Men, Spider-Man show. The outdoor show. The outdoor, like stunt show basically. Yes, which did not have seats. It just had a stage. This is correct. So your job was to corral. Yes. Yes. But then you had a microphone that boomed your voice to the entire park. Yes. And so you would say things like, come here, come here. Or our favorite, the thing that we've been quoting for the past, for the past several years is, hey, did you hear that there are mutants on the loose? Yes. Quote. People would look at you sideways. Our favorite face is this. Okay. So to be clear, I'm not a fan of the X-Men. I'm not a fan of the X-Men. I worked at, in the restaurant, at the executive dining room. Oh, wow. So I did, yes. Let's celebrate that. Tray service? Well, they have, I would take the order and bring drinks. They had food runners. I would bring the dessert. Great. I had the tie, the apron. Very chic. That was a great job. Yes. And then I was like, I want to perform. Yeah. I got to move into the entertainment sector. So I got a job. I auditioned for, they were going to do an improv group. Great. At Universal? Yes. For the park. Yeah. Oh. Exactly. Was not thought out well. We did not have a stage. We were walking through the park. Doing improv. Just started doing improv. You realize doing improv is being somewhere, getting a suggestion. So literally we would be walking through the park and we'd be like, hey, can I have a location? And they would be like, home Depot. And then they would like walk away. And then we'd start to do a scene about home Depot, but then other people would walk up and be like, who are these people? I don't know where the, what's the game. We would stop in the middle of it. No one's watching. Who was originally there. We trained. We rehearsed for weeks. And we had auditioned for this. We were like, this is our big break. We did it for one day. Improv in the parks lasted one day. And they were like, thank you. We're like, what is this? Cause we'd be like, and then you'd see part of the people and they're like, rescuing someone from the boat. And people were just like, excuse me, walking through the scene. There was no stage, nothing. - So you do know how to tell a story. Look at that. - Okay, well that, okay, well. - I'm crying. Wait. - But then, - But then. - So they said, they said to me, we are doing this, - X-Men show. - X-Men show, on the lower lot, on the, - You gotta take 10 escalators down. - It's the down one. And when you think you're at the bottom of Universal, there's another level that's below. It's still outdoors. - There's yet more depth to Universal Studios Hollywood. - There's a stage. And it was a show with, where the X-Men would come out. But I, my name was like something Martinez. I think I did not, this was, they gave me the name. I had a microphone. I was dressed like a newscaster. - Doris Martinez. - Something like that. Something like that. And I came out and they were like, you gotta, you gotta bring the crowd into like the stage. - No, no. - But it's just people walking around. So I would have to say like, - Trying to get on the rides down there. - Yeah, it's like, oh, hey, excuse me. Hey, my name is, - Something Martinez. - Something Martinez. And like, did you hear there's a, there's a mutant on the loose? You guys come on. It's like, and then I would just like point to the stage and be like, just wait, wait, wait, right here. Hey, did you hear that? It was my job to get people to come to the stage and stand there and wait because it was minutes. I had to do this for like minutes. And then, then music would start. - Sure. - And Storm and Wolverine maybe? - Yeah. - I'm sure he was involved. - We're just like, - He tends to go where the X-Men go. - Walking through the park. - Yeah. - They're just like improv. And they're holding like a machine that's like supposed to detect - Mutants. - Crime. - Mutants. - Oh yeah, of course. - Yes. So then they do that. They'd find like, they'd go up to like a little kid and like, - You're a mutant. - Pretend to do whatever. And then, and then the show's over. - That's the show. - And then are you out there? - Okay. - Jurassic park. - If you're a mutant, like try to raise this glass. And then the obvious, it's on a pulley, which you could see. - That's cute. That's really cute. - And then people would be like, oh my God, you're a mutant. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then I had to go. - I'm a mutant. - Then the end of the show, I had to be like, thanks for coming. Oh my God. It's Spider-Man. And Spider-Man was standing on top of a building. And you know that song by, is it Paramore? That's like. - Oh, "Evanescence." - Oh, "Evanescence." - Yes, yes, yes, yes. ♪ Open doors ♪ - Spider-Man, Spider-Man. ♪ You turn into my core ♪ ♪ Look up and I'm so numb ♪ - And then it stops. Spider-Man falls off the building into a puffy mattress that you can see. So he's standing on the building like this. ♪ Here I'm already done with it ♪ And it's like. - And the music cuts out. - And the music cuts out as he lands? - Yes. - And then it's over? - And then it just walks away. - Yeah. - Everyone walks away. - Yeah. And where do you go? - Thank you for coming. I go into the guest room thing. And then I have to come out and do it the next hour. It was like every hour we had to do the show. - Oh my God. And then. - Now, did you ever find like, did you ever feel like. - Everyone just like walks away. No music. Just like. - And then everyone walks away. Is this okay that I'm saying this? - No, yes. - Yes. - Did you ever feel like it went well? Like did you ever feel like. - Yes, oh for sure. - Killed it, got 30 people to watch it. - Because by the end of the summer, and this was in the heat of summer. - I know. - Oh yes. - It was so hot. You know, you start to get like loose with it. And the kids who got, they were like so excited. You know, like, oh my God, I'm a mutant. That was fun. - How many people on average would you corral in one show? - I mean, in the tens. - In the tens is good. - People would start to come. Like people would, 'cause it was a show. It had lights and it had all the X-Men were up there. - Right. Oh look, Spider-Man is title of episode. - Oh look, Spider-Man is the title of episode. - Oh look, Spider-Man. - How big was the stage? Was it the size of this rug? - No, it was like two rugs. - It was like two rugs. - Oh, that's pretty big. - That's for all of you at home. - It was about two rugs big. - It was about two rugs. - Two rugs. - Yeah. But the thing is, I want to say, I loved working at Universal though. - I'm sure. - I can tell. It sounds like it was really fun. - To work in a movie studio was so fun. I also catered there. 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The first time I went on the Universal lot, it was to audition. They were going to reboot Blind Date. And I auditioned to be the host. And it was like this weird, like driving around on the cart, like there is like a glamour to it. It's what you always wish for. And I remember thinking the same thing when we were doing Palm Royale on the Warner Brothers lot. I remember we were all in costume. Burbank! And then it was across the street from Abbott Elementary. And they're a great vibe. That whole cast is like incredible. You guys are all incredible. It felt like really, really fun. And then I remember everyone's like in costume, whatever. And then the tram went by and I was like, oh, wow. Like that was a really a cool moment of being on a real lot. And like the fact that like, it's just Palm Royale is like such a realized, like the costumes are incredible. All the departments are doing like such incredible work. Amazing. We're so lucky with our departments. And to be able to do that on the lot coming from, you know, what you started your career doing, that's like a really full circle. Yeah. And being on the lot, like you said, there's so many other shows. I think the pit shooting there. So you see people walking around with like bandages on and like, it's like, oh my God. The pit, Palm Royale and Abbott Elementary, three different worlds. You can do anything on a lot. You really can. Let's shoot in LA, everybody. Come on. But that's beautiful. Thank you for giving us more color and detail because I love it. Because I've been thinking about that. Just you saying, did you hear there are mutants on the loose? There's mutants on the loose. Please just watch the show to figure it out. You got to figure, no, there's going to be mutants really soon. Did you hear? Have you heard? Speaking of your early improv. Live mic, have you heard? Like one of the things I've wanted to ask you about for a very long time. Okay. And I've never brought up to you. And I don't know if you even know this, but one of my favorite shows in the beginning, like when I was like, when I first got like a TV in my room and could like post that, post up and watch a show all day was something called the Joe Schmoe show. And it was on the man. It was, it was on Spike TV. So it was on Spike TV back when this was a thing. I remember I would like, because I was like, had a TV in my room. I was flashing back between like Spike TV and E. Like remember when Howard Stern was on E at night? Yeah. I felt like such like an adult in my room with a TV. I got obsessed with the Joe Schmoe show and you were on the Joe Schmoe show. Do you want to describe, describe what the Joe Schmoe show was and what your role on it was? Yes. It was a reality show, but it was all improvisers. Kind of like the jury, the jury duty. Jury duty. Yes. Perfect. Perfect. I think I haven't seen it, but there's one, one guy that thought it was real. Right. He thought he was on a show called lap of luxury. Yes. Yeah. And we were all improvisers. Oh, and we, we had to. Yes. And my character, her name was Dr. Dr. Pat. And she was a marriage counselor that was like married like six times. She was a marriage counselor that had been married many, many times. Yes. And I remember you were on the show and it was like, so basically their job is to like convince this person that they're in a real reality competition show. And he's the only one who's doing it for real. And they're all actors playing characters. So get a little of this. And I, I, I couldn't do it again. I, I, I love everyone involved, but I have my conscience. I felt, I felt bad. Well, basically you had, you felt bad. It's a version of traders by the way, very much so. Yes. But, but the thing was, there was a physical challenge where they were all in sumo wrestling outfits. And Kristen was in a sumo wrestling outfit as Dr. Pat. And she was up against the guy who was, you know, the Joe Schmo. And during the competition, he knocked the wind out of you. It was so hard during the sumo wrestling that you had to go to the hospital and leave the show. What? And I'll never forget. You stayed in character while you were knocked out. And you said over and over again, Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. Oh, my stars. I, because the, the costume, it was one of those Sumer things where there's space on the, on the back. And so you're like, I got, yes. And I got like fully. Whipped. Fully whipped. Yeah. And I had to go. Fuck. And you stayed in character as Dr. You would've been, I would've been in character. Well, no, cause she, Oh, she was very, very docile person. Yes. I see. She was like, hi, I'm Dr. Pat. You know what? It was very, Kristen was doing like, like early Kristen, like hello. Yes. Please like, let me know if you have any problems. I've been married six times, but I have a lot of experience. That is so funny that you watch that. It was the first thing I, in fact, that was the show that I got. That that's when I left universal. When I was waiting tables, I was like, I booked. I've made, I've made it. No, but those, those jobs are really fucking huge. Cause it was like, it was a big break. Improvise it. You know, it was like, it was a paying comedy job. It was a paying job for the first time in my life. Yeah. You wouldn't count the walking around doing improv at Universal Studios. Like the first week. I would count it. You did one day. Well, it was the first time, like it was filmed. Yeah. You know, yes. Yes. This was your TV breakthrough. Yes. That was live. That was live. Yeah. That performance. Because I, I agree with you. Like, I totally understand you not wanting to do that today because I watched jury duty. And it was like the, first of all, because of all my stars, you staying in character, just give this woman the actor award now. Truly. Already. And I watched jury duty. And I was like, I don't know how, especially James Marsden. Like, I don't know how any of these people are like pulling this off. They are incredible. Edie Modica. Oh, a legend. Like it's, I just, for me, couldn't handle it. I am, I'm too sensitive. My nervous system couldn't handle it. I can't, my nervous system. Yeah. Yep. Couldn't handle it. And also a little bit like once you start, I felt this way when I was doing the prank calls for Elle magazine, I was like really nervous. I was like, Oh God, I don't want to do this. I'm a very empathetic person. I don't want people to be stressed out. And then like you start and you're like, Oh no, I'm too good at it. That's the thing. Yeah. You were good at it. You were Dr. Pat. Oh my stars. Oh my stars. I'll never forget. Oh, that's so funny. And then you got on SNL. What was it like a few years after that? Like, yeah, It can't have been super long after that. Years. My time is really bad. I may have been one of the only people that was like, oh my God, that's Dr. Pat. You were the only person. Dr. Pat is the new star of Saturday Night Live. Oh my stars, oh my stars. Was you being something Martinez helping to pay for Groundlings classes or was that not, was that before? Yeah, I did not have a job that was- Beautiful. To get that job felt like I was, yeah, it was like a working, I was making money and that was, you know, when you're starting out, it was like a big deal. Of course. Anything, anything you can get paid doing that is not a survival job at that point feels like an I made it moment. Yes, yeah, yeah. Because I remember our first paycheck. I mean, I have like romantic thoughts of those days. Yes, me too. Because it's like when Matt and I got our first paycheck from Story Pirates, we were like, this is technically our first paying like comedy. And it was 30 bucks. Yes, and you're grateful. It was $30. And you're like, oh, I did it. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I had a tour guide job in New York that was like on a bus. And it was like, it wasn't good money, but I felt like it was all worth it just to even be able to do anything in a way where they were like paying me to do that. While we're reminiscing, let's ask Kristen the question. It's time. Kristen Wiig. Oh. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Okay. I think, is it okay if I pick a movie? Yes. It's so more than okay. Well, I have two. A combination of Annie and Grease. Yeah. Because I think Annie for me was like, oh, I want to do that. Yes. Why didn't I get to audition for this? Yeah. Even though I've never acted in my life. It's too late. It's too late. I'll never be Annie. Adult Annie? Can I pitch that? I think, yes. I was just going to say. And then Grease for me, I have a love for Olivia Newton-John that will never leave me. There was something about the high school aspect of it. What high school could be John Travolta? So handsome. And then her, obviously, don't just change your identity for a man. Totally. That's not really the lesson. But there was something about her becoming this like sexual thing and not giving a shit. Yeah. That I was like, I just love that that was the ending of that movie, if that makes sense. And I love musicals. I love when everyone's getting up and singing together and dancing. And like, it just makes me so happy. And I imagine what it's like on the set with everyone like rehearsing. Even SNL, when we would do like dance stuff. Those rehearsals, like that is, I live for that stuff. I love that stuff. I don't know if this is a good answer or not, but I just remember that Annie and Grease, both musicals, both stories about, you know, people wanting something more and singing about it. There was just something about that, that I was like, I don't know. I just, I realized how much entertainment could like affect me. And I think, I think that's for sure, even though I didn't want to look at it, that was the seed that was planted. I was like, I want to do this. - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Because there's stories about these women and girls who want to be part of something that they didn't realize was available to them. - Yeah, and they want love. - And they want love. - I don't know, I just, and don't we all? - And don't we all? - And don't we all? - I'm going to bring him into this. Isn't Lorneo kind of like a Daddy Warbucks? - A hundred percent, yes. - And we're all little orphans. - Yes. - Have you not said that before? - No, but I- - Because that's very, that's a very- - Let's put that out there. - No. - Have you said that to him? Because I'm sure he would really like to hear it. Lorneo, you're kind of like a Daddy Warbucks. - You're like Daddy Warbucks. Well, I don't know about that. - Well, I don't know about Daddy Warbucks. - I mean, you do feel like a bunch of kids that live together when you're on that show, for sure. - Totally, totally. And it is like a, let's go to the movies. - Yeah, let's put on a show. - Let's put on a show. - Yeah, I just, oh. - Was "Let's Go to the Movies" not in the stage version of "Annie"? That was just in the, in like the '80s adaptation. - Oh God, I don't know. - I think so. - Okay. - I know there were songs that weren't- - In the original show. - Yeah. - It's been a long time since I've seen it. When was the last time you saw "Annie"? - Ooh, I've seen like clips of it recently. - It's been a minute for me. - But I haven't watched it from the very, very beginning. - You must truly trip being around Carol Burnett so much. - By the way, her performance in that. - Oh, Oscar worthy. - When I think about what she read and then what she did. - Yeah. - And knowing her now, like I, I mean, you got to- - I got exactly probably two minutes with her and we took a picture because I was in drag as her. And Abe was like, I just, Abe was like, who's the creator of the show, was like, "She is going to get a kick out of this." She was like, and I remember he was like, "Can you stay in costume for like a couple hours while she gets here?" And I was just like, I would do anything for her. And so it was like, it was like the mustache and all the stuff I had, the prosthetic-y stuff underneath her whole costume. But I was like, I will sit here for three days waiting for her to come because she is beyond a queen. - And lovely and looks right in your eyes and says, "Hold your hand." - Just so great. And so I was thinking like, what you're saying is so true. She's an inventor. - Yes. - Like it goes beyond contributions. It is, it is why we are able to contribute because of, you know, people like her. - Yeah, I agree. - She was like the first woman, the first show. - It's like her, it's Cher who just- - Well, I'm just saying, you know what I mean? - Inventors like the- - Stand and deliver look amazing in a fucking Bob Mackie dress. - Yeah. - And do it your way. - Do it your way. - Yeah, yeah. - Ugh, Carol. - Carol. - I can't believe it. - I know, I just love her. I love her so much. - She's, and you know, just like the whole, the whole like idea that, you know, she's become like obviously the antagonist of the show and like gets to do this whole- - Yeah, that was just so hilarious. She's like the nicest person in the world. - She plays someone so awful. - You can tell. Do you believe in that though? It's like, I think it was Tina actually who said like, when she was trying to cast Regina George, she was like, we need to find the nicest person in the world to come in and do this because it is truly kind people that understand and are able to walk away from and go in and out and see evil and cruelty from different interesting dimensions because it's not something they're embodying. It's something they're exploring. - Oh. - Wise woman. - Wise woman. - Always. - Miss T Faye. - Too wise. - Too wise. And then on the Grease thing, it's like, Sandra Dee turning into Sandy is like, that is the fantasy for every, not just like girls, but like everybody, like, especially for like gay guys. It's like, you watch Grease and I, yeah, Dani, great. But I'm like, it's, it's Sandra and, and it's Rizzo. But it's like, it's like, it's just- - I was going to say, let's put some respect on Stalker's name. - We gotta, we gotta, we love Stalker. - Every time. - But just that, that's such a fucking good ensemble. And so is Annie. Obviously. But like, I totally get it, man. Like I'm just watching Grease for the first time. I, yeah, I felt something. - Yeah. I think it's one of those things, like when it's on, do you find, you know, every line of dialogue. - A hundred percent. - It's crazy. - And it's also like, kind of like sexy. - It's sexy. - You know, when Rizzo and, and Kaniki are doing their thing. - Kaniki. - Hickey from Kaniki. - Yeah. - Hot and hev. - Hot and hev. - Summer 11, it's like, wait a minute. Like they're talking about. - Yes. - Wella, wella, wella, huh? - I mean, Grease Lightning. - Oh, that's a whole. - Come on now. - That's a whole text. Grease Wag, Grease, Grease Wagon. - Grease Lightning. - Grease Wagon. - Grease Wagon. - Grease Wagon. - And they're like, hey, you said Grease Wagon again? - That was the original version when they were going to have a station wagon and just. - Well, it's Grease Wagon. - Dang. - My high school wouldn't do Grease. - Because it was so sexual. - We had a conservative superintendent. - Yeah. - We had a very conservative superintendent. - Oh, so you did West Side Story? - No, so what we did was, we did all these like very racially problematic shows. We did The King and I, we did The Wiz. - Okay. - Like all these things that everyone, even then in like 2005 was like, hey, I don't know if Tina, like this girl I knew, can be doing this thing she's doing in like this part of The King and I. Like, I just don't know. But absolutely, those were totally above board without question. - Yeah. - And what we could not do was Grease Wagon. - Wonder what they're doing now. - And you know what? 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But it just felt like a really good, like, musical, time, because it felt like it was all of your genuine interest. Like, I would imagine, obviously, those things don't happen. And you as well. Like, you're always bringing music to the show, like, and you're so capable of doing it. But I, as a fan of the show and a fan of musical comedy, was always so happy that people that loved music and really wanted to perform in that way were on the show, because it gives it a whole other dimension, I think. Totally. You know who oftentimes, like, bringing those pieces together were these straight boy kings, Colin Jost and John Mulaney. Like, they were just like, like, because they like musicals, too, luckily. And then they just, like, they, like, they're like, okay, and, you know, Kristen can do this. And, like, for me, they'd be like, can you sing, like, Suddenly Seymour? And I was like, sure. And, like, it's just, they just know how to, like, position everybody in that way. Yeah, I agree. But I agree about that. And it's fun to have that in the show, like, to have that one little special thing. Even watching now, it's like, oh, I bet they, like, rehearsed this and, like, did their little dancing. Taryn, too. Yes. And Vanessa. Yes. Like, everyone was always committing to- Totally. Whatever it is they were being. Yeah. That was just, like, when Seth was on, we said this, but, like, that was such a peak cast. Like, I tell everyone that I, I believe I told you this, but I was at the episode, which was Anne Hathaway and the Killers. Yes. This was the very first, I was there in the audience. Yes, yes. And it was the very first time you ever did the Lawrence Welk show. Yes. And I remember at the end, the Killers did, like, a, an encore. Oh, yeah. And Seth said it was the only time that the studio audience stood up and gave a standing ovation. And I was in the audience. And I remember that felt like such a- I don't think I've ever felt the way that I felt watching you do Lawrence Welk. Oh, my gosh. No, truly. Thank you. I mean, I think it altered the course of my life. And so many people watching. That didn't have to be in the room in the vicinity, but, like, that was a very special cast. And that was a very special sketch and series of sketches and a moment in culture, because it was 2008 at the time as well. Oh, my gosh. And other fun details that you were sitting next to. Emma Stone. Emma Stone, you told me this. Yes. That is crazy. It was wild. But, like, what do you remember about that time? Honestly, like, career-wise, like, best years of my life. Yeah. Hands down. Hands down. Because, you know, you're, it's like you, you move in with these people. And then seven years later, you, you pack up your room and then you have to move somewhere else. But you do feel like you are living with them. The time in between sketches, like. There'd be a day you'd have to rehearse at 9:00 a.m. and you'd look at the rundown and you don't have to rehearse again until, like, 4:00 and you're secretly, like, and then you look and see who else is off and you all go hang out. Yeah. And you just, like, oh, it was just, it was the best time because I think, too, feeling okay to fail was something that I had to, that's hard to do. I feel that way now in my life, to be totally honest. Yeah. But having that read-through, writing something, and you're like, this, no one's going to laugh at this. Yeah. This is going to be totally silent. But it's okay because you're looking around the room at hater and, like, all of these people and everyone's got things that work. Everyone's got things that don't. And you realize, like, oh, that's just part of, like, figuring out what, what will get on or what is funny and to be able to have. A space where you can go and not do a good job and feel okay is so rare. Oh, my God. Do you know what I mean? Of course. Yeah. And I kind of, I kind of embrace the times. It's funnier to sort of, it's more of a bonding experience to fail and bomb at that show. A hundred percent, yes. Because Celeste and I will, and Sudie and I will just, like, laugh, oh, my God, remember that fucking sketch and how it was silent. Yeah. Like, there's something. There's, like, a, there's, like, a crucible you walk through in that moment, but, like, I, I, how often would you feel like you were reading something before we read through and, like, no one's going to laugh at this because I, because I, because. Oh, every time. Really? Oh, my God, I would never read something and be like, this is going to kill. Sure, sure. Because you never know. You never know. Because I think that's the other thing you learn. You can write something and be like, I think this has a shot and it's silent. And then there's the one where you try to pull it and they're like, sorry, it's already in the pack. And it's on the show. And it's the one that you're doing. You have, I have no gauge. Yep. I have no, yeah. It's completely unpredictable because it can go through whatever, it can hit any station and land and be the, be at the terminus of any path where it's, like, it does great at read-through, it does terrible at blocking, it does great at dress, it does poorly at air. That is head of all that. It has, there's every permutation of that thing. Everything happens at various stages. Like, my therapist and I talk about this, it's like, you have so many occasions for, like, validation or rejection and failure. And it teaches you a lot about, like, how the world works, I want to say. Yeah. But I'm so surprised at this because I feel like you and Amy were talking about this on her pod where it's like, and what is true, and I think you know this and I hope you own this, it's like you were, I think you were the, you were the cast member to come in fully formed, fully realized with the point of view already. I mean, I don't feel that way. That's interesting. Well, only because I learned so much and I remember, because I auditioned twice. twice yeah and I remember when they had me come back for the second one I was like what do you mean I'm like I did everything exactly yeah everything yeah I literally did every character that I have yep and three seasons in having a like breakdown being like I've done I've done every voice I have nothing have you talked about this the three season in thing like this no did you have a breakdown well I've certainly had that thing I think my second season I was like I did everything for my audition yeah that's it that's how you feel and then you and then that's that that hump you get over with also the help of other people being like can you play uh blah blah blah and you're like well I will see and then you end up trying or doing it it doesn't always work but and then you just like find new things and then you find other ways to to find characters like it it became not just vocal right it became like physical like I remember I think it was I was in Paula Pell's office or James I can't remember but the like the the don't make me sing that came from like just standing like let's just do something that someone stands like this because I was like I'm out of like I'm out of things you're out of things to do or you know what I'm saying but you know what blows my mind and I don't think I've talked about this I don't even think I've brought this up to you but I was just so curious about the Rebecca LaRue I was gonna say thing the flirting expert which was your last season I think one of your last update features I was like how did this play a dress and I will say I watched back because we have the dress footage from every single episode of SNL on the database I will miss that's the thing I will miss the most oh yeah it's just the server because it just it's comedy history it's like the scripts of like Mark Howbell like like yeah wow Farrell writing that on his own like you see I'm like oh my god like you just there's just so much to it's like a library it's like Belle in the library in Beauty and the Beast but Rebecca LaRue I would say a dress I was shocked and I'm just saying this I don't think it really played oh and then on air you just I don't know what you guys did it didn't play but you figured it out within what like 45 minutes to an hour that's incredible oh yeah I don't I don't I don't remember that okay it's my top three characters that you've done the entire show yeah flirting extra Rebecca LaRue because of because this is I think one of the keys to a great update piece for me as a viewer is how it's an element of it is how you guys interact with whoever the weekend update anchor is and the way that Rebecca LaRue and Seth even said this on on his episode of our show was like an indictment of the girls he was dating at the time it was so funny because you could tell there was like a friendly yeah like energy there that felt personal that was weirdly parasocial then for us as an audience that watches you guys week in and week out because you could tell that was a little bit true yes in the in the way he was flustered oh my gosh but it's just I was just like noting the difference and I and I hope you don't mind me saying like I the feeling watching dress was like oh why why are they laughing at this I have no I have no memory right oh and I also I also love what you tried to impart on me and I did not take to heart which was like don't read like the reviews and the comments and the feedback because that is the thing that I think like took me a long time to get over and was like you just have to remember it as your own experience and the ones that are bad go through a certain synapse they print out and they stay in a file and you can access it at any point and you can see every word yeah and the good ones go go away and I was I mean I'm aging myself did we have the internet when I went but like did we we kind of did but like there wasn't there'll be like two reviews yeah but wait did we yes yes definitely certainly I was on in 1964 I mean I know we had the internet but it wasn't so much like blogging and uh social media we didn't I guess maybe that's what I'm saying I mean of course we had like computers but um did we have the internet and I never watched the show when I was on that's incredible because I didn't want to like see what I looked at there most of the things I've done I've never seen really bridesmaids I've seen bridesmaids yeah because I I just mean like on SNL yeah yeah that's the yeah yeah so I couldn't watch it the next day or or watch it in between for I couldn't I couldn't do that that's holding something very sacred in terms of like the theater yeah yeah that's that's cool you're doing a live show in front of an audience they're the ones you know but then I guess millions of people are watching yes yes yes the energy when you're there when you're on stage your first thought isn't this is on tv yeah you're like oh I can see Jenna I can see the crowd I can see the people in their costumes waiting to come in it feels very it is it's like theater it's like theater and the good thing that got me and I've talked about this with Matt last week in like my exit interview it's like the thing that destroyed me was just looking out on my last sketch during my last sketch and seeing basically the whole staff show up and I was like oh this yeah and it had nothing to do with what was gonna maybe be said about it online or what the reviews would be it was it was just spatially in the room that's what it totally healed all of these wounds from the past seven years where I would like really care about what people thought and when I realized what I would tell what I would tell the new cast on my way out what I told them was like because because they would approach me they were like how do you this is really weird like how do you deal with this and I was like there's three audiences who are watching it's the people in the room and kind of the people at home it's the internet which is this like voice that just wants to is incentivized to say something like that takes it down or devalues it and then there's the people who make decisions uh have the power to make decisions for you who can like help you materially find interesting things or whatever and only two of those audiences matter like the internet one doesn't really matter because if you don't look in some ways it doesn't it just doesn't exist right exactly I agree yeah which is yeah I remember when when we were talking on set at palm royale you were like you said to me like I knew I would love Bowen because I feel like the same stuff what and I what did you mean by that like and what what do you guys think you have in common because I think it meant beyond comedy well I it was sense of humor for sure but also just you and I interacting in between sketches yes I feel like we didn't even have to like say much and we were just laughing and I just felt uh it's kind of even hard to describe it's like when you probably when you guys met right it's like you just feel like oh hey hey there's non-verbal stuff and also being on that show you do feel like you're already in a little like army together yeah you know so this this this is my thing this is maybe what you meant this is what it means to me which was the first time you came back was COVID Christmas December 2020 oh god and it was and Dua Lipa was the musical yes Marjorie this was a classic people people don't talk about this one as much as they should I'm not even talking about the sketch I'm watching Dua Lipa sing on stage and us going oh my god that's Dua Lipa yeah yeah and we were full-on and my other thought was like we're like the only people in the world watching live music right yeah yeah yeah that was levitating right that was levitating oh that hat don't start now it was amazing I loved both those performances I danced my face off watching her every time I loved it I went to go see her radical optimism tour and it was really great and I watched this like this there's this YouTuber who's like oh like doing long form videos about like you know like pop music and he was like Dua Lipa is a category five pop star this means that she will things move around her you know what I mean like it was a not nice no no it was very nice it was basically saying like it's like there's certain levels of artists where they don't necessarily have to worry about proving themselves ever it's just like they can come and sort of like you know it's going to be the tone based on moves they make and I fully agree with that the argument was that she has gotten to this place where she's always going to be reliably Dua Lipa yes because she's Dua Lipa yeah yeah and she's really good and we have the same birthday same birthday what sign is that it's a Leo Virgo cusp Leo Virgo cusp yeah yum yum yum that's really really good is it what is it August 22nd 22nd yeah 822 why do I feel like that's an auspicious day just feels nice because it's a double a double didge oh I don't know 22 is my favorite number and I have it stop what about it well it's my birthday well yes but also I see it I see it when I need to see it like wow right now I needed to see that today maybe I needed to see it too yeah I think I like the um well it was my baseball jersey growing up oh I didn't know that yep this is beautiful see we're all connected we're all connected and people are like is that a Taylor Swift tattoo and I'm like no it's not but when I went to the artist tour and she sang 22 I definitely went like this you for sure did I kind of thought when you said you liked all this, like, cool, all the same stuff. I was like, well, they both like cool music. I feel like you guys are both, like, cool when it comes to music. I've fallen off. I've kind of fallen off, too. Yeah, but I bet even that is cool. I feel like you guys like, like, cool bands and stuff. No, I'm just listening to, like, 80s Japanese city pop. That's all I listen to now. I'm still streaming Espresso. It's okay. Think about me, Renato. Doesn't get old. I feel like they famously did an Espresso sketch, but I feel like if Espresso is on when you're on SNL, you do something with Espresso. What do you mean? I feel like you do a character that dances to Espresso or whatever. Okay. I'm inspired by you, and that's why I literally came up with the Robin, the Riddler's Assistant thing. That was so fun. We are inspired by you, and we'd like to be your writers. Oh, my God. That's the next thing you want? That's what you're saying. Because when we pitched Robin, because we had to get on Zoom with you and, like, pitch this idea, and we were, like. Pitching a character to Kristen Wiig. We're, like, we're pitching a character to Kristen Wiig, and there's a chance she is, like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Which would have been really hard. That would have been really hard. But you immediately, like, snapped in, and you were, like, oh, my God, Robin. You're, like, I get it. It's funny. I think this is what it is. Yes. Okay. Great. Yes. We were, like, yes! And then it was, like, we were, like, working on this with you. Oh, my God. And then another thing that I will never forget is, remember the four versions of the presenter copy we had for the Emmys that one year? Oh, man. Because we weren't sure if Maya was going to make it because she was sick. Seth was maybe not going to be able to do it because he, like, wasn't flying in. Wait, was you, Seth, Maya, and Keith? It was me. No, it was just me. I can't believe this. It was me, you, Seth, and Maya presenting. Okay. Like, walking up, doing, like, a bit about Lauren. Yes. I'm, like, winning too many Emmys or something. Yes, yes, yes. But you and I. Kristen and I. We're in that dressing room. With our pencils. With our pencils. While Matt Bomer was sitting on the other corner, like, wanting to say hi to us. And we're, like, we're in the middle of something. Matt, just one second. Well, I'm sure we said hello. We said hello. We weren't rude. He's the nicest guy. He's the nicest. No, we all said hi. But you and I were, like, locked in. We got to get to it. Because guess what? We got to rewrite this. We had to rewrite it. Shows in 10. Not that we were given, like, bad copy. But the show. No, it was just, like, we. There was four different versions where. It was if Lauren didn't win the Emmy because it was on the category before. Oh, that's right. Because it was after. If he didn't win, if he did win. If Maya couldn't be there. If she wasn't there. She couldn't be there. We had four different versions of that copy ready to go. Yep. And you and I had to, like, sit there and, like, rewrite all. I was, like, I can't believe I'm doing four versions of presenter copy with Kristen. I was, like, this is surreal. It was so fun, though. But it was so fun. You're the best. You're our hero. I just. And I feel like on Pomeroyale, too, you're so, like. It was just. Thanks for bringing it back. Pomeroyale finale that we've just done. I was just, like, what I was, like, the coolest part of it was just, like, being on set and seeing you, like, try to figure out or finesse certain things. It's just. It's just really cool to be a part of that. Well, you were incredible. And I got so many texts about how funny you were and great. And Abe obviously just loves you. I had so much fun working with you. And even in that scene with Kai in the bedroom and you and I just kind of, like, running around and doing our own thing. I think that was my favorite. My favorite day was. Us behind the ledge talking. And I don't know. There were several favorite days. Doing the, like, come to the tub. That was all you. Oh, that was great. That was all Matt. He just started doing it. He just started going, come to the tub. And everyone else was like. It's a great. It's a great atmosphere. And also, it's, like, it feels like a really fun, playful atmosphere where you could come up with something like that. And you would be, like, entrusted as a member of the group to, like, pitch something like that. But it's also kind of. I had never experienced that energy with something that had that, like. That much budget. I was like, wow. Like, this is, like. Because we were talking earlier about being on set. Like, that's a big old show. Yeah, it is. And to still have that playful energy, I think, is a testament to you and to Abe and to all the cast and all the departments that provide the malleability for something like that. Because that wasn't in the script at all. Yeah, yeah. And then it became the whole entry point into our meet-cute, which was a blast. It's a period comedy with. Just a sense of fun and kitschiness and just. It's so delicious. It's, like, we don't. It's a unicorn. It's a rare thing. And, like, I'm so happy it exists. I can't believe you guys are both in it doing a two-hander episode all the way through. Like, I'm telling you. I was watching and I was like, this is heaven. Like, I'm. These two people that I love. Anyway. Paul Morial, it's out. Let's move on to I Don't Think So, Honey. Paul Morial is out. Is out! No! I'm saying, Paul Morial, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just being curious. It's, it's. By the time this airs, the whole season. No, it's officially all out now, right? I don't know what day it is. Doesn't matter. It's out. Yes. It's out. Thumbs up. You got thumbs up. I told you I don't know what's going on. Yeah. Oh, my God. Time for some prep wisdom. 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It always looks like a haiku when I text. Am I wrong or am I wrong? It'll be on like four different lines. Am I wrong? So I don't think so, honey. 30 seconds. Thumbs. Because sometimes you need to use your thumbs to, you know, engage, comment, address. And I got my chunkers in the way and I'm trying to get things done here. And then I think, you know what? Maybe your thumbs are trying to tell you something. 15 seconds. Put the phone down. Oh. Don't even pick up the phone. Your thumbs. It's evolution. It's actually saying you were evolving out. Five seconds. Of the discourse. Put the phone down. My thumbs are getting bigger and bigger. I think all of our brains are getting smaller and smaller. That's true. And I think that is a correlation. I don't think so, honey, that we need that. We ignore this. If your thumbs are too fat to type, maybe it's because your body is doing you a favor by evolving out of engagement. That's one minute. If your thumbs are too fat, natural selection will be good to you. If you can see. If you can see them from the front, wait till you see them from the back. That is a line about thumbs. I don't want you to talk badly about your thumbs. I think that has beautiful demands. By the way, your thumbs are on the thinner side. You think so? But here's the thing. If you. The same exact way. I believe if you make your text bigger, you know how you can make your text bigger? I think, doesn't the keyboard get bigger? No, it can't possibly. You're right. It can't possibly. There's only so much room. It's angle. I'm looking at our thumbs and we have the same size thumb. Guys, I think my thumb is bigger than yours. And I'm just thinking when I was 13, I thought that I was gay. Match up to. No, you have a beautiful, beautiful thumb. No, we're, we're way bigger. Three beautiful thumbs. But do you find, do you find that this is a problem you face as well? Do you want to know something? What? Sometimes I text with these fingers. Stop it now. That's chic. It's. I saw a woman do it and I said, I'm going to stop. I start doing that. I want to be like Mike. And that woman was. My friend, Jessica. Oh. She holds her phone like this and she goes like this. That's nice. Like an instrument. Is she sending, is she sending like important texts though? Oh yeah. She's a boss. Oh yeah, she's a boss. Yeah. I mean, she's not using her thumbs. It's very 2020. 2024. It's very 2000 and late. Jessica, Jessica Simpson? No, not Jessica Simpson. You guys haven't hung out in a while. I don't know how Jessica Simpson texts. I bet she texts like this. Hey Siri. Send a text to Ashley Simpson. Hey sister. Was just wondering how you were doing today. Send. I love the Simpson sisters. And then Ashley Simpson responds like this. Hey fucker. I'm a rebel. Just kidding. This is like more of their 2004 personas that I'm, I'm sure they've both grown, changed, evolved or not. And that would be fine because they were perfect already. You would have written a killer fanfic about the Simpsons. Who says I didn't? Oh, who says I did it under a pseudonym? I didn't. I have something and I'm, I, I hope, I hope, I hope this, this enacts change. I don't think that you should judge it. Just, just let it do what it's going to do. Yeah, mine's not going to change. Cause this is going out into the, this is going out into the wild west. If it's going to enact change, that's what it's supposed to do. I think it will. Just don't be disappointed in yourself. I think it should. Okay. Thank you. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. The word squeegee. Cause the thing that it is should not be called that. It should be called a glass scraper, a water shovel, a wipe, a wipe downer. Wipe downer. Not a, who came up with squeegee? Who pointed at that? Because the linguistic thing is the concept should match the name, right? Where there's a disconnect there. 30 seconds left. Squeegee should be a dog toy, a children's game, my name, stress ball, Matt's name. Yeah. A little pet name for something. Your, your loved one. Oh, squeegee squeegee. Instead, it's the most un-cute thing in the world, which is a wide rubbery thing to like wipe down your windshields or your showers. I don't understand. I think we really should decouple squeegee, the word from squeegee, the thing, and just take a new pass at, at, at those names. That's one minute. Maybe we name everything. I love the word squeegee, but I do wonder if it should be something else. Like it feels like it should be what a sponge is called. Yeah. A sponge should be a squeegee. Yes. This is a squeegee motion. That's a squeegee motion. Or a verb. Like that's what you do to a sponge. You squeegee. Yeah, you squeegee it. You squeegee it. That sounds cool. Well, did you squeegee it out? Because it's still. Is that sponge wet? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give it a squeegee. Give it a squeegee. Oh, you want me to do it? See, this is very James Anderson. Hey, could you give a little squeegee? Instead of squeegee. Hi, my name's Janelle Squeegee. Janelle Squeegee. No, one of his, one of his final names that never saw the light of day during his final season was Yolanda Releasings. Yolanda Releasings. That's like beginning. That's like Miss Beginnings Chang. Yolanda Releasings. Yolanda Releasings. I'm in the room with the F. Releasings. Yeah. The I, the gerund. Releasings. Like the noun. Like it's a noun. Releasing is a noun. Like, that's so weird. Anyway. I do think like also in the James Anderson canon is something like squeegee St. Regis. Squeegee St. Regis. Like that's like something that he would float around. Of course. Squeegee Adams. What a talent. With like three Ds. Are you ready? Yes. Okay. So I just start by saying, I don't think so, honey. Are you going to say? Okay. We're going to say. Time starts now. Okay. Hold on. I don't think. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, okay. This is Kristen Wiggs. And her time starts now. I need snack companies, preferably chips and popcorn to stop creating flavors. Yeah. I, back in the day, you wanted to get a popcorn. You get a plain, you get a cheese, you get a caramel. Now you've got, you've got the truffles, you've got the herbs. It's too much confusion. I get groceries. I get groceries. I get groceries. I get groceries. I get grocery store confusion. It's aisles and aisles. There's chips. There's, there's salsa syrup. There's too many. But here's what I'm saying is where, where are they going? If people don't buy them, where are they going? Are they going into a landfill? Oh. And there's too much. There's too many cans of drinks. Keep naming them. There's too many can drinks. Too many sparkling things with flavors and probiotics. There's protein everywhere. Oh, forget it. There's protein in your popcorn. There's, there's too many flavors. The, the, don't stop me. The aisles are too long. It's a whole, it's an aisle on one side, an aisle on the other with cracker flavors, chip flavors, pretzel flavors. There's too many flavors, sweets and salties and savories. Stop. Because. Because I don't think so, honey. And that's what I'm saying. Okay. I'll tell you where they go. Tell me. Because there's too. I agree with you. Too many. 1,000%. It's because you're not a part of the community. That engages in this. And I'm telling you, there is one. My, our friend Greta hosts a party every year, the night before Thanksgiving, which is called Chipsgiving. It is a time when. New flavors? Everyone at the party that is invited brings like a artisanal, some sort of bespoke flavor of chip. And everyone comes and they present the chip that they brought. And they said, the reason I've chosen this chip is this reason. Everyone tries the chip. Now, there are sometimes as many as like 35 people at this party, which means you're eating a lot of potato chips. And I have heard the next day that people are more hungover than after any New Year's Eve, after any Christmas Eve, after any 4th of July, because of the amount of salt. The oil and salt. So make, make that a holiday. Make the chip companies. Unofficially it is. Wait, wait till Thanksgiving. Wait till you see our new flavors and then make it like a thing at Chipsgiving so we don't have to, you know. And then you like a flavor and then you go to, it's like, oh, they don't make that anymore. Then there's a purpose to it is what, is what you need. It's gone. Oh, because now they've introduced like hot, hot, hot sriracha macaroni chip. It's like cookie dough fiery hot. I'm telling you, you would not believe the kinds of chips. And it's like, it gives me anxiety now to know I have not been to the party. That's why I needed to stop. Well, you could just lean in. We'll get you invited to the party. I'm just nervous we're snacking too much as a country. And I'm going to bring, I'm going to bring something else to the table. Yeah. Too many beverage flavors. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You would include, you would include beverages in that. Well, no, in the can when I was saying the can. Oh, the can. I see. But beverage flavors. Correct. What is salsa syrup? Oh, I just made that up. Oh, okay. I made that up as a flavor of chip. Yeah. So maple, maple, maple, maple salsa. That sounds great. Maple salsa jalapeno. That's the problem. That sounds good to you. People sit in rooms like this and make jokes and then they go, wait. Wait a minute. and they make jokes. - Waffle, dill, pickle, chip? - No, you're not. - You're not off. - On the market tomorrow. - Yeah, it's guaranteed there's already every brand of chip has that. But this being said, what is your favorite chip? Like what- - I like a Cool Ranch. - Cool Ranch. - Cool Ranch Dorito. - Sometimes they taste a bit. There's no other way to say this. - Tell me. - Cummy. - There was no other way to say it? - There isn't another way to say it. - Cum smells like fish. - Every camera in the house. - Say that. Doesn't cum smell like fish? - What does cum smell like? - I don't know what cum. It smells like Cool Ranch. - I don't know who you're. - I don't know who you're talking to, she said. I don't know who you're asking about what cum smells like. - Never made that connection. - Well, you're not both. - But you might have come up with a new chip. - You're not Bowen yet. That's why they call him Bowen Yang. - Cum Salsa Syrup. - Cum Salsa Syrup. - Cum Salsa Syrup. - I just don't enjoy it anymore. - That's fine. - The Cool Ranch, you mean? - Well, now we can't. - The Cool Ranch. - Yeah, thanks. - I like a Ridgie's. I like a traditional Ridgie's. I like a. - What's Ridgie's? Ruffles. - Ruffles, Ridgie's, Ridgie's. You know, Ridgie's. - I'm not a Ridger. - Oh, I love Ridge. - And I will also say like, I like. I'll tell you what I really don't like is all the flavors of Oreo. To me, I think Oreo is Oreo. - They have flavors? - That's what I'm talking about. - Even Lady Gaga. She came out with the Chromatica Oreo and I was like, I don't know. 'Cause now I feel the need to support the legend, but I don't like this Oreo. - I like a mint Oreo. - I love a mint Oreo. Wait till you try matcha Oreo. Ooh, you're gonna like. - That sounds good. - It's really good, right? - Have you been to Japan? - No, but it's my dream. - I feel that you and me, but don't you think as someone who's been there, like I feel like. - Yes, you would love it. - People tell me that all the time. - The kids would love it. - I would love to take them at some point. Maybe when they're a little older. - Yeah. They're already 16. As we said. - 36. - That's the proper age to take your kids. - 36. - You really. This is a huge conversation starter though, this chips thing. I'm not just. Thank you for bringing that. - No, it's just. It overwhelms me. - People are thinking that they're not talking about it. - It overwhelms me when I go and I'm like, I just wanna get like a chip. - Yeah. - And then I'm like. - Yeah, and you can't. - Even the thick. There's lentil chips. - There's lentil chips. - There sure are. - Chicken lentil chips. - That's nice. - Chips out of beans. - Protein in the popcorn. - People want a healthy option. - I know. - And I know you're saying kind of as a joke, but maybe not that the aisles are too long, but this is my experience when I go to the grocery store now. I look at the chip aisle. I get so overwhelmed. - Me too. - I don't even. My eye doesn't know where to land. I just move on. I don't even buy a chip and that's robbing me of a chip. - It is. - You know what you should do? - It is robbing you. - In the names, in the words of your character from "Barb and Star". - Yeah. - You could just get one of every chip and make a suicide. - That's true. - Suicide. - When you have too many options, you buy less. That is true. I remember hearing this on some sort of NPR something. - Well, then you know it's good. - The more they did a study. You're gonna cut this. This is boring. It was like a farmer's market of like jams. And when she had three types of jams, like sold out. When she had like 10 types of jams, people were like- - I don't know. - And then they walked away. - Yeah, also because when I think- - It might not have been NPR, don't quote me. - When there's a lot of options, when there's a lot of options, I do think you in your head question, well, can these all be good? - Right. - And therefore, can this brand be good? - Or am I getting the right one? What if I don't get the right one? - It's like when you go to a restaurant and there's only the six entree options. You're like, well, I know these are all curated. Lovely girls. Whereas when you go to the Cheesecake Factory and there's nothing against the Cheesecake Factory here. - You're just a big menu. - It takes you much, well, clearly, not just much, much longer to decide because of all the options, but you're like, now what's the area of expertise here? You know what I'm saying? It's like, and that is overwhelming. - And then you think, I've ordered wrong. And then comes the negative self-talk. - Yeah. - I can't even go out to dinner. - The negative self-talk. - What's wrong with me? - I can't even- - I should've got what they had. - Yeah. - I'm gonna go to the grocery store and get some chips. - I'm going home. Nope, just kidding. I get to the grocery store. I look at the aisle, I'm out. I'm going home, empty handed. - Hungry, I'm going to bed hungry. There was too much to eat, I'm going to bed hungry, okay? - This is a nightmare. - Wait, I wanna say, because I feel like we only breezingly mentioned Bridesmaids and Barb and Star. And I also wanted to say, well, you mentioned Hayter earlier, the duet that is the Skeleton Twins should not be forgotten. - Oh. - Oh. - But it was fantastic in that. - Thank you. - And I feel like it was such an amazing little hint for people that saw that movie and know that movie of what was to come for both of you guys, which is you're both phenomenal actors. Like he's so brilliant and I feel like you guys were obviously like MVPs at that show you were on it, which is saying something, 'cause everyone was an MVP, but you guys together are amazing. And I feel like he's obviously done what he's done and you have just continued to grow and show your versatility as an actress. I will never stop reminding people of that last episode of the first season of "Palm Royale" when you're on stage and everything's happening and you're just, your instrument as an actor is so varied and you're in such control of it. And I feel like that shouldn't get lost. And I'm not surprised at all that every actor got a list of everyone that they possibly could vote for in a leading or supporting capacity. I don't even know what to say. You were in the leading capacity at the Actor Awards and your name came out as one of the five because you are that good. Oh my God. I don't know what to say. You are really that good. That's really, that means a lot coming from you. Thank you. I believe with my full heart and I know you feel the same. I feel the exact same. Thank you. I was like, I- Well, I think there's actually flaws. I've got issues with your work. I would describe it as cummy. Yeah, I'd describe it as very cool ranch. Very cool ranch, if you gather my meaning. It's incredible. No, and I will just say like, and Melissa coming to the show this season, McCarthy, I was just like, "Oh God, Groundlings people." Actors. Actors. And let's talk about Rose Byrne. Rose Byrne. Oh! Congratulations. Let's see her get some hardware. Let's do that because she is such a brilliant, obviously comedic actress, but dramatic actress. Oh yeah. Can do anything. And has been. Can do anything. I mean, Melissa too, my God. Yes. Like, oh, I'm just, I'm so happy that she won. Yeah. Oh my God. I cheered up a little bit. You must be feeling like- I did. I cheered up. Yeah. Oh man. She's so good. So good. And she does such great stuff. And she's such a good person. And I don't know. I'm just, I root for her in a way because her talent I think is just- Boundless. Boundless. She's exemplary of what it means to be versatile, hardworking, like always getting better. Always interesting. I remember her from "Wicker Park." Yeah. Ah! "Wicker Park." The Josh Hartnett. Josh Hartnett vehicle. Josh Hartnett, yeah. "Wicker Park." Oof. And I'm just saying she's been around and doing it and kicking ass. I'm not surprised at all to see it pay off. I was so, so happy. Yeah. Yeah. But also, some of my biggest laughs in that movie are your guys' passive aggression at each other. Like, I think people change. It's very hard to act like you don't like me. I don't think people do. Right? To act like we didn't like each other is really hard. I mean, it's perfect. But again, it's like you did it so well because you had, you had a, you had a lens on it because you could probably talk about the ways in which you wouldn't like each other because you like each other. Right, right, right, right. And was this cut, was this from the trailer? I mean, was it cut from the final film where the first time you guys meet, she goes, "Oh, did you just come from work?" Did that make it to the final film? I don't remember. Someone literally said that to me in like an earnest way. 'Cause we went to Sarah Sherman's special premiere and we literally did all, I mean, maybe that's why they said it, but we all did come from, we did not look like glammed up. Yeah, but that is basically saying, "Oh, did you just-" You look like shit. Yeah. "Did you come from work?" She was like, she was like, she said to me the line from like Rose Byrne's line from "Bridesmaids." I was like, "Oh, hi. Did you come from, oh, wow. Did you come from work?" And I was like, "Oh, yeah, but don't worry about it." She knows the owner. I know the owner. You do! The, the, the impact of that line in the theater, I will never experience. It's the funniest thing. Fuck, like we're going there, like, yeah. That, that, that, that's when the movie turns. Yes. You know, anyway. Oh my God, you guys. We've kept you here for so long. We're so sorry. We love you so. Why are you sorry? This is so fun. We're there, you finally hit the clock. It's like, oh. How long have we talked? Like five hours. 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