Offseason Plans, Wildcard Preview & Matt Damon on Brady, Affleck Bromance & Career Odyssey | EP 174

How do you think the Patriots will do in the playoffs? Are you guys so spoiled that it's like, if they don't win the Super Bowl, you guys are gonna be upset? - No, no, no. - Or is this not at all? I mean, this is a new team, right? And I think, I think this is like, found money for us, right? Like, I feel like it's from the rip. You guys bustin' up in the wall and you've got a quarterback! (laughing) $20 million quarterback sittin' in the wall! (laughing) He broke in, it took a sledgehammer and there with Drake May. (laughing) (upbeat music) Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 92% of us from all over a wonder show brought to you by Intuit Turbo Tax. Oh, it's starting to get the tax season, baby. Don't forget to pay your taxes. Unfortunately, they will knock on the door and you do need to pay them. I'm Travis Kelsey, this is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, got a Cleveland Heights, so Ohio, shout out to the Tigers and shout out to those Bearcats, baby. To subscribe on YouTube, One Tree Plus, wherever you get your podcasts and for the other show on all social media at New Heights, shout out to One F for fun clips throughout the week. I am officially jobless, Jason. Actually, this is my only job. Well, no, you're still employed unless you stop playing. Have you announced you're stopped playing? This is the only company that appoints me right now. Not to be said, you got a great episode comin' up. We're gonna recap everything that happened in the final week of the regular season as well as dive into these upcoming Wild Card Weekend games. Hey, I'm excited for some playoffs, playoffs! You know what? I'm excited for this fucking game and that's right. He's comin' in the back, that's right. We got him, we got Will, we got Jason Bourd, we got, one of the most iconic actors of this generation. He's gonna come, we're gonna make you wait for it. He'll be after we talk a little bit of football, but you're gonna get through with us, all right? We can, just so you know, we can't wait for Matt either. All right, here we go. Let's start off with what we always started off with. Lubin then, new news. New news. New news has brought to you by American Express. Okay, update from the Amazon Holiday Giving Initiative. This holiday season, over 3,000 operation breakthrough families in KC were provided with gifts and essential needs. That's right, how about that? Well done, thank you to all the 92% and our friends, of course, at Amazon, well done Amazon. - It's awesome man. - Well done 92% because of everyone involved with this entire initiative, 3,000 operation breakthrough families have had something around the holidays, which I mean, if that's not the Christopher Spear, I don't know what is. And for the third time, Travis Kelsey has won the Nationwide Walter Payton Man of the Year charity challenge. - I bought it man. - Every year, each team nominates one player to be their Walter Payton Man of the Year. When you get nominated, there is a fan vote that happens on socials and on the internet. And if you win that, you win the charity challenge. You're the only player to win the charity challenge each time they've been nominated. - Yeah, it's Chiefs Kingdom, baby. - As the club's Walter Payton Man of the Year, shout out to Chiefs Kingdom, shout out to the 90%ers. Operation breakthrough also drops some throwback picks here 'cause you've been involved there for a while. - Oh, we've been doing this since-- - Look at these folks. - They've been getting in my career, yeah. - The young Travis Kelsey right here. - There you go, oh yeah, in the muffler shop. And then, ooh, the early days, man. Oh my gosh, it's so funny seeing some of these pictures. The original Robotics Lab that 87 and run in my foundations help support that robot right there, you see that young girl? - Yeah. - Holding up. And now she is one of the high school kids that are now have been using Operation Breakthrough and all its resources for a while. So it's cool to see some of these familiar faces grow into high school kids. - That's awesome. - Yeah, it's awesome, man. And one of my first foundation events, I used to do a walk-to-walk. I used to be a fashion show. They used to put onto some of the boutiques and the kids over at Operation Breakthrough got to walk in it, so shout out to everyone over at OB. I was know how much I love you and how much you guys mean to me. And it just means everything that 90%ers and she's came out there and helped support that. And it's all to make these kids right here happy and proud of where they come from, man. - Well, just so you guys know, everything for the nationwide Walter Payton Man of the Year charity challenge goes to support Operation Breakthrough. So you guys are awesome. Thank you so much. And thank you to everybody who voted for Travis and who has helped Operation Breakthrough out. It's a fantastic organization in Kansas City. They do so many things for these kids and families. So well done, everyone. And that wraps up new news, which has brought to you once again, by American Express. - Let's move on to some bold topics to wrap up week 18 in the NFL. Wow, week 18. I forgot we even had 18 weeks as a 17 game season. Bold topics are brought to you by KFC. We got some snackers from famous KFC bowls. Chiefs, 12 Raiders, 14. What are your thoughts on the season, Travis? What are your closing sentiments from this chief season? - You know, it was a tough season. Obviously ended even worse because my guy, one five went down and we finished the season with a lot of starters kind of being banged up. So we had to make sure our guys that were getting their first taste of what the NFL has to offer, which is fun, but it definitely has its challenges and, you know, it's a tough way to go out, especially with the amount of success and the standard that you hold, you know, yourself and the team to going into the season and throughout the season. And you try and look back on it, you know, right away and you try and learn from it and maybe even try and figure out where it all went wrong and how you could have been better on certain situations and it's just a shitty feeling and a shitty way to try and navigate one of the things you do, you love to do the most and that's play football. And, you know, I just, I appreciate everybody that was in that building and that was on the field to the past like three, four weeks when we knew we really didn't have much to play for other than the love of the game and the pride and the honor that comes with playing in the NFL. But I just, I appreciate everybody that was out there and giving it their all and putting their body on the line and made it as good as we could have gone and going into the last week and in the end of the season. - Yeah, there's nothing worse than, you know, not making the playoffs. It is very frustrating. You guys have done it, especially when you guys have done it so much, like it's absolutely crazy. And you guys obviously should be very proud of that but that doesn't make any, it actually probably hurts more how to assume. - Yeah, it's kind of an embarrassing feeling but, you know, you keep it moving, man. You keep it moving. And I'm still a fan of the game and I still love the game. So I'll be tuned in throughout the playoffs seeing how this thing shakes out over the next couple weeks. And yeah, get to be around some friends and family in January instead of trying to figure out how to win some playoffs games. - The season did not come without you guys winning some things especially you, Trevor, with some records being broken. Let's have a little reminder, since you'd love talking about records so much and stats are, hey, you became the third Titan ever with 13,000 receiving yards. The fastest to ever accomplish that feat. Guys in front of you, of course, another Kansas City legend, Tony Gonzalez, who, - EG. - I mean, absolutely insane how many yards Tony has. - No, it's absolutely insane as your eyes, fucking silly. - Yeah, and then obviously Jason Witten down in Dallas Travis the third one to get over the 13,000 yard marker which is a very fitting number I think. You also passed T.O. for eighth most receptions in NFL history. Do you know that? - Yes, I've known, they asked me about all this stuff after the game. So that's how I really know. - That's crazy. I didn't know you were eighth of receptions just period. That's awesome. - Yeah, coach Reed dials me up. I don't know what else to say. I don't think when he puts together game plan, he features me. And I'm very fortunate to that. And I'm fortunate that in my 13th year, he was still trusting me to try and win him some ball game. So shout out to coach for helping me accumulate some of these yards he catches. - Well, another record is you are now tied with Tim Brown for the longest streak of seasons with 75 plus receptions at 10. - That's a little brown step. - 100%. - Yeah, that's a little brown step. - Shout out to Tim Brown though. - Now that the season is over, what is next for the big Yeti? - Every season adds for me. I put my feet up and I just be a human because I've been putting my body through the ringer for the love of it. You know, I do enjoy playing football and the physical aspect of it. I think there's something about, you know, feeling the wear and tear of the football season to just fucking, you know, getting ready for a game knowing that your body's fucking beat down. I mean, I just, I think there's, there's something to it. It makes you just feel like a, like a main g-animal that just is fucking out here, just fine in a way to survive. And I just fucking love that shit. But yeah, I think, yeah, just being a regular human for a couple of weeks, maybe a month or so and trying to figure out what I'm gonna do next in terms of my future in football. And I think, you know, I've talked to a few people in the facility already, you know, having the exit meetings and everything and they know where I stand, at least right now. And I think there's a lot of love for the game that's still there. And I don't think I'll ever lose that. And I don't know, it's a tough thing to navigate, but at the same time, you know, I think if I think, My if my body can can heal up and rest up and I can I Can feel confident that I can go out there and give it another 18 20 21 week Run, I think I would do it in a heartbeat. So I Think right now. It's just finding that answer and and seeing how the the body Feels after this game and kind of when it all settles down Confused you say you're not already coming back What Chris Jones has said that you're coming back. I thought this was already nice That's why we love Chris. He's very optimistic This is very optimistic Chris Jones is code is I'm not buying it. He'll be back next year He also followed that up though. He said I can't promise you anything nice. There you go Yeah, let's keep this thing moving a little Eagles 17 commanders 24 Jason You want some thoughts on the game? I mean obviously the Eagles didn't play all their starters But yeah, I mean that's the big storyline is obviously The way it worked this past week for the Eagles was if You know Detroit beat Chicago which did end up happening and if the Eagles when the Eagles could have jumped up to the two seed Eagles obviously elected to rest their starters because They prioritize the rest going into the playoffs which I think is right I mean It's if the Eagles could have guaranteed getting the two seed by playing their starters I think they probably would have played But because there was this other game that also had to take place You have the risk of injury It's kind of outside of your control the one thing you can control in that situation is making sure your team is Rearing and ready to go for week one and I also to be honest with you I felt pretty confident the Eagles back up to beat the commanders and I think that they should have they Didn't finish the game well. They started off pretty good tank Bigsby was running crazy Now it's excited to see Tanner McKee. He's played well and most of his outings with the Eagles So there's a portion of you just want to see what some of these backups and young guys could do But yeah, it looks bad in hindsight. That's one of those things where you know because Chicago lost You know we got the egg on our face because we didn't play our starters And we could have the two seed most likely if we would have played everybody But I just think of it like this too is like Monday morning quarterback if they start the starters and one of the premier guys gets hurt and The Lions don't win then everybody's gonna be on Nick Cerey on about what fucking idiot is playing his game guys and a game that's Meaningless then if you do damage, you don't yeah, and we were in the same similar situation in 2023 my last year And the offense was struggling. We really actually had less the game like we weren't really playing for anything in that week If I recall it correctly and we go out there and we play and what happens a J Brown gets hurt and he couldn't play in the first Playoff game Jalen Hertz also got banged up in that game and I do think that that was also in the back of Nick Cereyani and the Eagles head of like listen the last time we played our guys in a game like this in a And up costing us some meaningful people and we weren't At our best against Tampa Bay I think at this point in the season when you get the rest and you have the opportunity to avoid Somebody getting hurt and you don't know for certain that playing guys is going to help you I don't know that it benefits you that much and at the end of the day, you still got to go Through good teams to win this rule like yeah, if we play if we're the two seeding we can guarantee two home games That is a big thing that is a big deal. But at the same time like we're going to have to play great teams regardless And now we get a week arrest all of our starters land in our whole offense line has been so banged up a lot of those guys got the ability to get healthier And then we're going to get to place what and now we get sand fran who just Fought their tails off with a juggernaut a Seattle and they're going to be coming to the east coast You know, I think if this team is good enough, they're still going to find a way to get it done I don't think that decision a week 18 is going to determine The outcome in this team. I just think that when we play up to our potential with the defense we have and with the offensive firepower We have I think we can beat anybody. Well, you guys got the 49ers next week and uh, I mean they've been rolling man They've been rolling. They had a tough one last week, but did how good is Seattle? That was a crazy game Dude Seattle is Seattle is so long and fast and those windows just they're smaller and they close They're active man active. I came away from that game more impressed with Seattle than I was like Oh, Sam fran ain't very good. Sam fran's still legit. I just think the Seattle defense is freaking Man, do they got some dudes over there? Yeah, we're in with everything that's happened with the 49ers man Kyle Shanahan man for one of the best seasons tip of the cap You just keep finding ways to fucking win and shout out to the guys that you know Haven't gotten injured that are fighting through and finding ways shout out to John Lynch for building a deep roster And I mean like to be able to weather all this stuff, you know, if they don't go out and get Mac Jones this off season They probably they don't what happens in those eight games that brought pretty misses who knows man All right, let's get it to the rest of week 18 good luck to those birds playing the Niners next week man I'm be fucking glued to the TV on Sunday when they when they play but the rest of the week 18 games Seahawks got the number one seed by beating the Niners We just talked about that the NFC South had three teams finished eight and nine panthers move on due to the tie breakers With the eight nine panthers hosting the twelve and five Rams is a crazy Insane thing to think about I think I remember some some coaches Coming out and saying hey if the records better we deserve the home game But I kind of think that that would be on the divisions. I win the division. You get you get the home game I think I'm with that too. We don't want you to get home game I don't care what the record is now the Rams have to go all the way to Carolina take that Sorry, we're five out yeah four and a half hour five hour trip. It's a play football game Carolina kind of like smalls their way into the playoffs like Like Rodriguez just kind of like Rodriguez bending the jet just sent him out to center field and they just held up their glove like this And then all of a sudden Come on, smalls. We're in the playoffs. Holy shit. Okay, we're doing this. All right That's hilarious. Steelers pulled it off against the Ravens another Fucking just dude. It was actually not hot dude. It was an awesome end of the game Lamar versus Rogers was was a hell of a fucking battle Lamar and Rogers especially in the fourth quarter were freaking on fire Like every time you thought one of them out did the other one the other one answered and It came down to the wire Lamar got them in position Yeah, you missed the kick. I mean, it's unfortunate, right? Yeah, it's it's very unfortunate and actually Mike Tomlin had another Mike Tomlin quote about how unfortunate it is and just how you know Sometimes the ball just doesn't go your way, you know he says I can quote you You know how it is missing a field goal. If my on had male parts she'd be my uncle I wish you would have just say the whole thing Mike. I don't need you to sugar code it or censor it Yeah, if my on had a dick she'd be my uncle. That's what that's what the saying is It doesn't hit the same with the male parts, but it is a great one It's a banger and we got the playoff picture We were just talking about the Eagles playing in San Fran hosting San Fran that is Being the number three seat Rams going to Carolina green Bay at Chicago The pairs hosting a Playoff game as soldier field that's epic Steelers hosting the Texans with the four and five match up Buffalo. It's got to go down to Duval How about it, man? Those guys are fucking rocking, but you can never count out Josh Allen And then you got a fun one man to awesome quarterbacks. Love watching both these guys play with Justin Herbert versus Drake May And they'll be up there in New England playing man Which ones your favorite game? Well the game. I'm most excited about his Philly versus San Fran I do think that's that's one of the more exciting games in the first round There's a little bit of an NFC playoff like rivalry between you guys for sure No doubt we've had a lot of meaningful games Really over the last five six years. Hell yeah, because we've both been really good I'm looking forward to all. No, that's why the playoffs are so good. I'll be honest. I still wish it was six teams I don't like that there's seven teams. I don't like that. There's only one buy. I think it should be the old structure But it's still the NFL playoffs is still the best thing around. I still love it I'm looking forward to most of these games. I think the ones that I'm probably San Fran Philadelphia It probably Jacksonville Buffalo the two six three games are probably the most exciting ones What do you think? What are the games you're most excited about track? I mean the one I just talked about up in New England I think that's going to be fun as hell to watch Buffalo Jacksonville game. I'm pretty fucking jack for yeah I'm I'm interested to see who comes out on top on that one. Do we have a most likely upset? Who do you think's gonna lose? That's favorite. I mean either the four seeds, which that's not an upset though Are we going upset by seed or upset by seed seed? Well then the obvious answer is like LA is going to be the piss out of Fucking Carolina, right until that that ball just finds the man It's sometimes we got that angels in the outfield uh luck to you Yeah, you got the juice you got the juice man. I don't know what to tell you I think the other one is obviously Houston versus Pittsburgh Houston's defense is insane. Yeah, that's that that's the one I was gonna say Buffalo is Buffalo out. I can see him winning Jacksonville is really good, right? They got a lot of fun. They're a lot of fun right now. The one I feel the most confident about is definitely LA What team is the most hot going into place? It's got to be Jacksonville They fucking won their last like seven games or something Jacksonville has finished the regular season hot That's why that game right now. I'm very much looking forward watching which quarterback will get their first playoff win. Um, I think Maywell. I mean, it's between him and Herbert. I can see. I think Darnell. I mean, dude, it's hard to bet against Seattle right now. They looked unbelievable against San Fran. That D in that, I mean, Darnell looks great too. But that defense is really the one thing that's like, whoa, Seattle's defense is kind of built like a modern day NBA team. Yeah, please. Their nickel is like six three. Bro, he is active too. They were plays kind of open for San Fran. But by the time the ball got there, that distance was just closed. They moved so fast. They have range. That's right. They remind me of an NBA modern NBA team because they're all long. They can cover ground. And I feel like right now everybody's playing this like kind of conservative zone, like get back into your hooks. And the way teams are trying to combat that is the short stuff. But then they just break, they break on that stuff so quickly that even when you throw it short, they're on you right now and you don't get much out of it. So they tackle well. It's a very impressive defense. So I don't if I'm rolling with one, I'm going with the man. Do you have a super bowl dark horse? I mean, it's got to be kind of Jacksonville, right? I just feel like that's the one that's got the energy and has the has the momentum right now. And I mean, even though there are three seed, which their record shows that they're one of the top teams in the league, it's kind of like they it's unproven yet. You know, you got to see Trevor go out there and really run the table, man. And I think that's probably my dark horse if there is a dark horse. It does feel like the Rams are getting a lot of attention. The Eagles are obviously the defending champions Seattle. Everyone is talking about now. But on the AFC side, everyone's talking about Josh Allen. It's his time like Drake May MVP almost nobody really is talking that much about. Like they're the darkest one, but they've actually been playing the most consistent probably. I'm kind of with you on this. I don't think they're going to win, but they are the dark horse. Yeah, we've got a great slate of games this weekend. And you can't forget that that that prime video game. That's right. Green Bay Packers are playing the Chicago Bears over a soldier stadium. Yeah, I don't remember a playoff game over at soldier stadium. And did it double doing. It's always electric. And there's going to be a electric game this Saturday, January 10th at 7 30 p.m. Only on prime video. Heel. All right. Well, that wraps up bold topics brought to you by KFC. Hey, yo, let's wrap up some football talk with the stamps of the week. Stamps of the week is brought to you by HBO Max. Check out the pit season two premiering tomorrow at nine Eastern. All right. Does the easiest pick for me? I'm going milescare. It broke the sack record. I mean, anytime somebody breaks a freaking all-time season record of sacks, rushing hearts, anything like that. They're going to get the stamp of the week. I don't know how you don't give them the stamp of the week. And he did it. Second, Joe burrow. Did Joe take a dive? Are we? Do we have another? Do we have another guest to know? Let's take a look at this. Did Joe take it out? Joe doesn't strike me as a diving kind of guy. No, he's a competitor. That's a sack. That's a sack. Record. Yeah, he didn't fight it, but that's a sack. That's a sack. We'll count it. We'll count it. We'll count it. Shout out to Miles Garrett, man. Absolute fucking legend. It deserves all the praises, getting and congrats on fucking getting 23 sacks. It's crazy, man. Straight hand was commenting on it says, you know, he's got the record in 17 games. I got the record at 16 games. He was doing, he kind of was joking around a bit about it. Yeah, you already know he's have a fun with it. He shows these shows Miles all the respect as well, man, but for sure. I'm going to go I'm going to go hit home with it, baby. Cleveland Heights own Layla Edwards is heading to the Olympics. That's right. It becomes the first black woman to play for the US women's national team. Hell yeah. At the Olympic Games, she's going to be out there. Milan, supporting or representing the US of A and even cooler, our hometown Cleveland Heights Ohio. Congratulations, the Layla Edwards. That wraps up State of the Week brought to you by HBO Max and the pit season two premiering tomorrow night on HBO Max. Now let's get to some Matt Damon. Jason, can you do the honors please? 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I've been I actually like for some reason that my Instagram thinks that you're the only thing I ever want to watch. I've seen so much of your stuff just recommended to me. So this is cool. Our guest today is an actor, writer and producer from Cambridge, Massachusetts. He is a two-time gold and gold winner, three times critic choice winner and an Academy Award winner. He is also the 2007 people's sexiest man alive. You know, I'm good. Well, hunting the Martian. The Oceans franchise is the talent. Mr. Ripley, the board franchises saving Private Ryan, the deported forwarded for free air up and harbor. Gosh dang. I was running out of movies. Here we go. In this movie, the rip is on Netflix starting January 16th. 92% is please welcome. Well, how about this? How about them apples? Thank you guys. That was awesome, Jason. Thank you. I feel like I should run out of the locker room and go hit somebody. That's all we're good at. Either doing that ourselves are motivating people to do it. It's all we know. Dude, you're absolute iconic, brother. And we can't thank you enough for spending some time. The rip is unbelievable, man. It is. Thank you guys. I'm fired up. You guys are the first people to see it. So this is that's great news. That's great for me to hear. Yeah, we haven't shown many people at all. It hasn't come out yet. And this is the first interview I'm doing for it. So this is very, very cool. I live a fucking dumb life, man. Dude, this movie is ridiculous, man. It had to be on the edge of my seat the entire time. And it's based off of the lot of the facts of based off the true story. Yeah, yeah, it starts with a true story. And then we take dramatic license from there. But there are these, this program in Miami where they take tips to go get money that's kind of, they seize money that's got front by like ill-gotten gains, like drug money and stuff like that. And so they'll hit these houses. They have dogs that don't smell for drugs. They just smell for money. And they have these teams that go seize this stuff. And one of the rules down there is you got to count it on site, just to make sure that none of it ends up in anybody's pocket and that everybody's on the up and up. And so they count it. And they're very, very serious about it. And there was one of these ones that they went on where they were expecting to find a couple hundred grand and there There was over $20 million in the wall to this house. So that's kind of where our movies about that, like it's about this team of people, but you already know there are rumblings that there might be some corruption or there might be some bad apples who are working with people outside. And then they go in and they find this $20 million and they know it's cartel money. So they're like, oh my god, they're going to come back for it. And so it turns into that kind of, you know, like a thriller where they're, where they're, they know they got to, they got to stay on site, but they know that the site is kind of compromised. Yeah. Absolutely. When do you first get pissed about this or is this, are you at the point now that this is your baby? Like, how did you get involved with this? So Ben and I have a studio like a, now, artist equity and, and, and so we're small, but we, but we're kind of a full-service studio. And so people are starting to become aware of that and coming to us with projects. And this came to us through Joe Conahan, who, um, he directed NARC a long time ago, uh, movie The Grey, he directed, he directed a bunch of movies. Yeah. And he took an Aces with him, actually, about 15 or 20 years ago. So we've known Joe for a really long time. And he just sent this over to us and we read it and we were like, this is great. Well, we'd love to make it. And then as we kind of, we're working on it with Joe, we were kind of like, well, why don't we just all do it together? There we go. There we go. We're all old friends. And we were like, this would be really fun. And, and, um, and so that, that's kind of how, how this one came to pass. Yeah. It's fantastic. And the way it all comes together at the end and the armored vehicle and like you guys, that is like cinema, dude. It's so fucking cool, man. And you got to say you, in the movie, you convince, uh, then to go after a large sum of money. Well, you guys think it's a smaller sum of money and it ends up being larger. What's the dumbest thing as lifelong friends you've convinced, then, you know, you're pretty good. Oh, my God. That's a great question. Man, I got our whole life is a stupid, we were like 14 and 16 years old and we were going to New York auditioning, taking the bus and going down there, literally the journey would take us seven hours to get there. We'd walk in and we called it getting okay, thanks because you doing audition, you do the best you could and the person would just go, okay, thanks. And five minutes, you're out the door and you're back on the bus going like, I don't think that went too well, you know, like, so our whole life is bit. I mean, if you, the odds of it working out were, were so long against them working out for both of us. Like, I don't, I mean, God, we've done so much stupid shit in our lives, but the whole idea was kind of dumb to begin with, I think. That's, yeah, I mean, it's amazing, really, at what point did you guys realize that, like, what was your first big break that you knew we were going to be able to do this? Well, it's tough to say big break because I think we thought every break, like the first, like, we got a TJ Max commercial and we were like, this is it, man, let's go. And then, you know, and then we started to get little parts and we started to get bigger parts, but we were getting told by casting directors and stuff. We'd go in and read and they'd go, you're not right for this, but you should keep going. So we were getting kind of signals that that that we were in the right, you know, area code, but then like, when we saw good real hunting, when we saw the screenplay, that we, we thought that was absolutely it and we were like broke a year later, you know, really? Yeah. After that. Yeah. We, I mean, not broke broke, I mean, but like, here, I'll put, I mean, I guess, so we sold the screenplay for 600 grand, right, which was just so much more money than either of us had ever considered, it was like, which we split, right? And then, but after taxes and agent lawyer and all that stuff, you know, I get it. Yeah. So now we're down under 150 each and the first thing we did was buy brand new Jeep grand Cherokee. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now we had, and we were renting this place in LA, you know, like, we, you know, it didn't take long for us to be like, dude, we got to give another job, like, you know, we can't just survive on that. Let me ask you just for reference, do you know what good real hunting has grossed? And it's like time. And it came out, I think it was like 220 something in the theater, but I have no idea what it did after that. Like, because they re-licensed it and they, you know, that's one of them that's just continued because it's just such an amazing film actually with our, with our studio, you know, that's one of the things where we really fight for is reversion rights. Like Ben called me a couple years ago and he goes, you know, the town just got re-licensed for 35 million bucks, because it, which just means that he made a great movie and people are still watching it. And he, you know, he, at the time, like, that movie made a fortune. It made it, it did all the stuff, but he, he was on a flat salary and he didn't, you know, I don't even think he made a million bucks for that movie and he wrote it, directed it start, you know, starting it. And it's crazy. Yeah. It's one of those things. So, but it's like, you know, our view was like, look, if, if you do something like that as, as one of the real contributors to it, then like, if there's money kind of in perpetuity, then you should, you should be a part of that. So. Yeah. I mean, it sounds right, man. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds fair. Seriously. Speaking of movies you guys have, have been in, when was the first movie you guys worked on together? Was it, was it field of dreams? We, there were, yeah, we were extras in field of dreams. That was, that was one. But I think even before that, there was a movie that Diane Keaton and Liam Neeson start in, that, a little movie called The Good Mother and that shot in Boston and Ben and I and Casey as little brother. We were all extras in that. And I think there's still a shot in that movie of Liam Neeson walking past us. Ben and I, I don't think have hit puberty yet. We're like five and one and Liam's big dude. He's like six, five, six, six. And we walk past him on, on, on a street at one point. So that might have been the first moment we were, we were actually on screen together. We got to find that one. I don't know. I don't know where it is. I just remember going to the movie and Ben and I were like, we're on it, we're on it, we're on it. We made it. That's so cool. Well, while we're talking movies, you're in something else that's coming up too. We got the rip coming up. But we also have the Odyssey. Yeah. Is that, is that correct? Yeah. Yeah, July. Are you Odysseus? Who are you in the Odyssey? Yeah. I'm Odysseus. Yeah. There we go. All right. All right. I had a beard like yours for like, I think I've seen the pictures. Pretty yoked up in some of the pictures I saw too, circulating the internet. Yeah. I was in really good shape. I lost a lot of weight like he said he wanted me like lean but strong. Lean but strong. Yeah. Lean but strong. And so I like, it's a weird thing. I don't want to bore the shit out of you. But like, I literally like stopped eating just because this other thing I did with my doctor stopped eating gluten. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, I used to walk around it between 185 and 200. Yeah. And, and I did that whole movie at 167. A whole cast. All right. And I haven't been that licensed high school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a lot of training and really strict diet. I was going to say, so when you get, you get asked by the director or whoever asked, you know, to be at that size and, and strengthen that lean belt, do you then like go out and source a trainer that gets you to that point or do you already have somebody in mind? Well, I have somebody, but it's just, you know, you know, trainers are like, what are we doing? And they can kind of do anything, you know, and it's just knowing, it's just having kind of a clear goal and setting it. It felt actually more, it's like, when I do that or when I did, do you like the Jason Born movies or whatever, it feels almost like, like a season in a, in a, I would imagine what that feels like for you guys where you're preparing, you know, it's like just part of your day. It's part of your job, right? And it's like, yeah, and you get really routinized about it and really, and kind of build your day around all that stuff and, um, yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's kind of the physical side of, of getting ready. Have you had gluten sense? I haven't. I'm, I'm, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm gluten free. Everything. I sound a gluten free beer. Hi. How about it? All right. It's been so long since I've had gluten, I can't tell if it's good or not. So that's, that's, that's a good sign. It's working. It's working. Well, the trailer for, uh, the Odyssey got over 121.4 million views in the first 24 hours. More than double Oppenheimer got, which was pretty successful. What, what do you think has so many people psyched up about this film? Well, I think it for, I mean, obviously Chris, you know, you know, Chris Nolan, um, you know, I think everybody feels, I mean, I, I'm a fan too. I, I just love the movies that he makes and, and, um, and also, you know, the, just a way, you know, the, the way he insists on shooting them, you know, on this one was 100% on IMAX. It was the first movie that was ever done all on IMAX. Okay. Like IMAX cameras are really loud. Like, it sounds like a blender, like a quieson art in your face when this camera is closed really. Yeah. And that's why. So there's never been these dialogues. We have this conversation with a normal IMAX camera because you wouldn't be able to hear us. Yeah. But they built this giant thing around the IMAX for those dialogue scenes and, and like a system of mirrors so you could look at, you know, so your eye line would be close to the camera and you could talk to the other actor and like, like the amount went into figuring out how to do, because he wanted to do it 100% IMAX, um, and he did it. It was like really ambitious kind of. ideas that he has and like on the technical side and then just There were locations that we went that we shot and where I would we'd get there and I'd just start laughing I'd be like nobody has any business shooting here like but like of course he wants to shoot here Yeah, that makes that tracks, you know But we do he has such a great crew like his crew is so badass and and everybody Just maxed out on that movie and and you know and we made all of our days We actually finished a head of schedule like we it was just a it was an awesome experience. That's awesome Helium I haven't seen it yet, you know I mean, I've seen the trailer like you have but that's about it Is that the way so how far before the theatrical or at least you guys get to watch it like is there or do you try and Like wait until that moment. No, it depends there. There are some a lot of directors You know if I'm doing a movie with Ben. I'm in the editing room within the whole time and and there's some directors who you know Who like to work that way? Chris has a process that's very, you know, he's he's he's screening the movie all the time to people outside the business He's trying he's very and he's grinding away at it. It's all see it probably in in a couple of months You know before it's done. I mean Clint Eastwood like I remember Clint Eastwood showed me I did two movies with Clint and that was just He's screened it for me like a week before the premiere, but like it wasn't like he was gonna take notes It's like I hope you like it, you know And so people have all different ways of working and and it's a director's medium really right like they really are the boss and and You know, but it can feel it or I look at it like a partnership, but you're the junior I'm the junior partner, right? So I want to give every good idea that I want to I want to be as helpful as possible But at the end of the day, it's it's their name on the movie and it really is there You know, they're the ones who were really kind of loosely judged. I mean, I know actors are two but but in in our world It's really about the director. That's awesome. Yeah, man. All right Well, do you want to get us some boss of sports maybe do it, baby? Yeah, I'm a little nervous about the chargers. I mean there, you know, you know, I love players over there man They got all players. They really do. They got some really great players, but so do we and and I love I love Vrable man. Oh my god. I love that guy. You got a good one. You guys got a good one. I believe I can't believe the battle of the mines between him and a Harball man. Yeah, it really will, man. Both of those guys I got so much respect for both of those guys and obviously did you have you you you brand-in to brace before? No, I've never met him. I've never met him. I've I'm legend I've blown my voice out cheering for him like over the years but I've never met him and you know, he just seems awesome like all the other and the way he deals It's like he took all of the best of Balochek and he's putting it through the filter of himself and he and it's like you don't Everybody love everybody loves the guy and and Drake May is unbelievable, you know, he's just he seems he seems to have that Tom thing where he just doesn't get rattled He's got this ability to kind of feel comfortable and almost Tom Tom was unbelievable and dictating the tempo of a game Like it every game that I felt like I played against him It just felt like he always had like we were going at his pace, right and and Drake kind of has that that field to him Especially when he's clicking, you know, yeah, yeah, and he's what 23 You know, so he's just just gonna get better. So I mean, I can't believe we got this lucky in New England to have Three-year playoff drought and all of a sudden you got another franchise quarterback, it's not it's I feel terrible It's like people in Green Bay where they go from Brett Farve there in Rogers and you're like, I mean when does that happen? But no, it's it's it's it's it's unbelievable and given it my whole childhood we sucked so bad like the patriots were I mean, that was our childhood we grew up in Cleveland, so oh right They still they're still not doing very good, but They do just about miles Garrett man unbelievable heck of a year heck of a year. That's the last guy. I'm trying to block I'll tell you what he's the physically physically probably the most gifted football player ever play football again He's really oh my gosh Matt when you line up against him He feels like you're going up against a power ranger like some like some are Unearthly like yeah mighty morphing like dude I'm just like I get in front of just like man. This guy knows that the coach is not about to put me in a position to block Please coach. That's amazing. How about Aaron Donald? He was the other one right that that's the one Jason got a got a good Aaron Aaron was the hardest guy I had to block I didn't really ever have to block miles like that and even Aaron luckily we were double-team to most of the time So I didn't have to block him one-on-one, but Aaron just didn't have He had his own physical traits, which were very good. Like he was incredibly strong and explosive miles has all that But then he also has the length just the heaviness bigger size person. Yeah, it's you're right It's kind of crazy when you think about both of those guys playing at the same time. They were The two most gifted defensive players. I played against for sure Wow, I think another thing that it feels like miles has done better with this year Aaron also had this mentality where he just was relentless He no matter what you did. He would not stop. He kept going ever got tired He was like mad at you the entire time like what do you mad at me about anything? I'm just trying to do my job He was like pissed if you and it feels like miles feels like he was more of that this year like there was a relentless This to miles that I think you felt all season long from him and with those traits and that mentality He saw an incredible season from him for sure But I do want to ask you this. Is it like in New England? Is it are you guys so spoiled that it's like if they don't win the show bowl You guys are going to be upset. No, no, no, no. Okay. All right. I got not at all. I mean this is a new this is a new team, right? And I think I think this is like found money for us, right? Like I feel like it's it's like You got 20 million dollar quarterbacks in the wall You broke in the sledgehammer and they would drink me No, and I I feel I don't know purse. I can't speak for everybody in New England But look if we get bounced in the first round I still think this is a massive year for us, right? It's like okay, so Like the future is really bright for us with the coach that we have with that with the with the organization and like with With Bob Crapplin with the way that whole thing is set up and with that quarterback and look I mean, I feel like we're in a really good spot Obviously, we want to see him go as far as they can but it nobody's going to be like, you know This is bullshit if they don't if they don't you know, I mean, it's like nobody was expecting him to be there I mean, we were expecting to kind of run into this buffalo wall for years, right? And that wall is still there by the way that team will be that team still very He's unbelievable and so it's fun. It'll be competitive. I was talking to a buddy minor was like This year has been so much fun because they're like 10 teams who could win the Super Bowl and you'd be like I'm not surprised, you know, yeah really is man. It's so fun for sure You know so wide open when you had those like new England dynasties or Kansas City dynasties It's not fun for anybody else. It's only fun for Well done. Well done. I do every time I I thought the whole year like the Patriots it feels like they're a few pieces away Like I'm like, oh, they don't really have this the kind of Level of talent. You think they need but they just every week they find a way to win and I'm with you This the more I watch Drake May the more I'm just like so impressed With his tempo. He makes everything look easier like when he's back there and he simple as the ball The simplest decision he had to make right. It's like it's like why is this game so easy to do? Yeah, that's right It feels it's like inevitable. It's like oh, obviously that was gonna happen. You know, yeah, it's it's It shouldn't be that it shouldn't look that easy. No, well speaking of a Patriot quarterbacks Then obviously the friend of the show he was on here talking about the greatest moment of his life other than the birth of his children was running routes I can't do that And the way he told the story I got mad. I was like you're gonna fuck up his timing you're so slow Like don't play catch with Brady unless you're just standing still like don't do that But yeah, no, I can't I'm jealous. He got to do that. I was gonna say what's your what's your best Your favorite Boston sports moment. Well, mine's super personal because I because I the my best Boston sports moment actually was was In 1999 of the celebrity at the All-Star game. I did the hitting challenge thing But then that night they let us on to the field to take batting practice at midnight And I and my dad was a pitcher. He was a left-handed pitcher and and he uh and We were taking batting practice. He was trying to get he wanted me to hit the ball He wasn't trying to strike me out But I hit one off the green monster off my dad Literally happened and we both looked at each other and I was like, I'll never need therapy in my life In terms of the great teams like I like there's so many You know so many unbelievable moments and yeah and Brady gave us oh my god him alone that guy just gave us 20 years of him So we were you know we don't deserve Drake may we'll take him I've met him a bunch over the years and like yeah, he's he he he just I don't know to me I for you guys because you you guys excel at that Championship level and to me it always strikes me across anything that you do it's always the people who do the extra work the extra thing like I remember the year after we went New England went 18 and one and we lost to the giants in the Super Bowl and I had dinner with Tom and a bunch of guys and you know they they brought a bottle of red wine around and everyone's game and glass of red wine and Tom's like no and I looked at him and I was like really I'm like it's May like your camp starts in like two months and he was like no like he was just like he was in that like I'm I'm my life I'm going to live my commitment to this thing you know what I mean and he just had that insane discipline and and I took my nephew to a game once down in Miami we were living down there and my nephew played football it was played you know in the in the Little Pembroke Pines League down Miami and I was like Tom I'm bringing my nephew and he was nine at the time and and we get to the you know we're we're down on the field everybody's warming up and he's like am I going to get to meet Tom and I'm like probably not now maybe after the game they're like look he's he's about to go to work you know Troy this is a real you know he's working right now this is a serious sure enough Tom comes running over he's like already sweating he's just warmed up my nephew's sitting on the on the bench and he's he's sitting at the end of the band and Tom runs up to him and gets in his face and he's like you're gonna root for me today Troy looking up at him and he just can't talk he's just nods just nods and Tom goes Tom goes gets in his face look they're both nine years old and goes we're gonna kill these guys he couldn't have meant it more either I was and then he runs off the locker I was like that was the greatest thing I've ever seen but it was like two nine-year-olds talking to you earlier we're gonna fucking smoke yeah literally that I mean there might have been an F-bomb in there for sure yeah gotta make sure he feels it you gotta make sure yeah he's gotta know um how do you rake your Boston sports fandoms by the sport socks hats Celtics Bruins that's tough I would definitely say red socks kind of for for me growing that was the thing like that was the definitely the top and the sport I played the most and then basketball I played a lot too so I so if you you know if you would ask me when I was growing up I would have said baseball basketball football hockey but when I look at I just because I guess great everybody we just bought into that like everybody got so caught up and like oh you get wrapped in it yeah we got said if I actually think of what I spent more time watching like the last 20 years probably football yeah yeah not including football who is your favorite uh Boston sports athlete like who who's your guy from growing up that you're like that's my like Travis is his Carlos Bayerga yeah I got Carlton Fisk yeah he was uh he was uh let's go yeah yeah yeah it was a big part it like we wrote the whole scene and good will hunting about him and and uh there's a whole kind of reference to him in that movie and well there was a whole team you know in 77 78 those guys like I you know I used to go through you know we have batting practice and I go through all their stances from each side of the play like I just knew you know that though those those would like all the men go to the game get the get the program start to keep score in the back man yeah it's just the best well let me ask you this where's you mentioned the green monster I was fortunate to like go get a tour at that ballpark when I was uh visiting Boston in high school for some reason what where's the best place to sit in that stadium like it's such and I it's like that and regularly feel like the two baseball stadiums are the most iconic what's the best seat in the stadium you think there are a lot of them actually depending on I mean now like the what the what they've done now by putting seats up on the green monster like yeah that that's insane up there I went to I sat in the kind of the last box next to those seats a couple years ago uh when I when I went up and and that was that was absolutely crazy I was fortunate enough I went to uh when they were doing the the one game wildcard uh playoff scenarios Boston actually played the Yankees in at at Fenway I was there they they won one nothing I was actually sitting up on the green monster no way with uh with the bunch of the green monster is that on the green monster and literally saw a line drive come probably 10 feet from or 10 yards from me it's and when they hit that monster dude you feel like dude yeah yeah boom and everybody's going nuts dude it was that it's Boston's a unbelievable sports town man did they leave you alone up there on the monster uh yeah it wasn't too bad what some of the air force has some fun with me but um yeah it was it was all on that dude I'm here for it man I'm sure what do you want me bro yeah exactly there you go you know it was epic dude I'm here for the chatter anyway all day baby how much do you hate Jason and the Eagles for beating the pads and super bowl 52 come on well I well congratulations Jay I still don't understand why he didn't put Malcolm Butler in the game I will never understand that like I because I think because you can't that game I don't know if we we might have pointed it was a high scoring game Tom Tommy through for like 500 and something yards nobody ever done that like it was just unreal and like we just needed to stop you guy like we never stopped you Jason one of the best super balls ever man I think we punted once and I think that was the only punt if I remember correct I wonder actually I'll bet you I'll tell you what man and we might have punted if we punted at all we punted once probably that there's but that's probably got to be the record for the least punts in a Super Bowl it was there was the highest scoring game and then I think we broke the game that record again when we played Travis in the Super Bowl I think that was the only other one that got higher scoring or something like that but Tom's day that was his best Super Bowl of his career the Patriots didn't the punters were both punters were having a having a cook in some popcorn on the sideline that yeah it's a fair question he never he never answered it though like I so I always wondered about that like what there was some personal there was something weird because it's like why does it got to 99% of the snaps and then you tell them while the national anthem something is not like caliber man and then you got to switch everybody around to different positions like that they haven't played it's like there's suddenly a preseason for the past two weeks yeah I just something it's something weird about it man I could never figure that out didn't he I think he got in trouble for like missing a meeting or something like that didn't he yeah something leading up to it but there was a meeting I know it's kind of like tell me tell me what I miss it's also the thing is like for me your way though you can't be missing me yeah but but then maybe after the first quarter when when you can't stop their offense maybe you're like okay you learn your lesson get in there well maybe after the first half okay now I've really you know I've proved my point but like well you never put the dude in it really is actually I think more selfish not to play the best guy because like everybody else wants to win by the way the Patriots way is do your job right the Patriots way is you got 53 guys who gave up absolutely everything they gave a they sacrificed everything and you're and that's your whole thing and so like what does it say if like you have an axe to grind with somebody that you're not gonna play him like it's just exactly it's yeah to your point it's kind of self it feels weird yeah it definitely feels like it goes the enemy of everything that's my that's my it really is like it's certainly in my line of work like if if you can't just like your allegiance has to be to the best idea like you're all you're all a lesser part of the thing you're making and and you gotta put that first and if if you do that if everyone does that it's gonna be everything's gonna work out have you felt like you've been able to do that your whole career or do you get to a point where you've been through that enough where it's like all right selflessy I want to go in yeah I feel like this is the best thing but in order to for this to work out the best we really need to operate together in a different uh no I never feel like those things are like mutually exclusive I never feel I always feel like my best interest is aligned with making the thing that we're making as as good as we can make it and yeah and and that it requires everybody to have that attitude and so like when I when I hear stories I've never I don't think I've ever been on a set where somebody was really misbehaving or anything like that was happening I hear those start like mystified by those stories I'm like man the fuck was that person doing like like like yeah sure it's all about like just trying to make the thing as good as you can make it and it's a collaborative project oh yeah be a good teammate man yeah exactly exactly with a director who is the director it's like a benevolent dictatorship like the director basically 51% yeah yeah exactly 51% coach Andy Andy reads the direct he's getting 51% this is bullshit Travis shut up got it yeah exactly but if you really like that guy right you know or woman if you really like that you have right then that's that's a perfect deal because you're because you're never going to be misaligned with them, because you kind of see things the same way. Yeah, absolutely. That's cool to hear it kind of translates into your lot of work in your world too, man. I think like the older I get, the more crossover there is kind of in all this stuff about like how you approach stuff. And it makes me think about how to talk to my kids about that and like whatever they want to do, you know, these things will kind of bearing across all, you know, all of these different kind of disciplines because they kind of work for everything. Yeah, yeah. Hey, is it, too? Are you, have you announced Travis, you're going to keep playing? Is there a still, are you, is that a big secret at this point? Do you take time at this point like the, yeah, I think I'm just going to take some time, let it, let it kind of fizzle out, let everything happen, get away from the game. I've, first time I've not had a job in January in a long time. So I'm going to go ahead and enjoy, you know, hanging out with some family and putting my feet up, watching some football, seeing how this crazy, anybody can win it type of season plays out. But yeah, I'm just trying to figure it all out myself and I'll do that with the family and friends and, you know, no, yeah, no, it's a big decision. I remember Michael Stray, and years ago came, came over to watch the Super Bowl. He was thinking about retiring and, and, and we're the same age and I was like, come on, man, we're in our prime, you're, you know, and, yeah. Just like, look, it takes, it takes a lot to get right, you know, there's a lot of work that goes into it. And then, you know, he was telling me on that, kept pushing him, kept pushing him, finally, he turned to me, goes, Matt, I get in 35 car accidents a week, and he's the one doing that. Well, yeah, so yeah, he's, he's initiating him, yeah, but that, that's a real consideration, like, you know, and, and it's easy to sit at home and joy watching you guys play and be like, why don't they put another season? Yes. I mean, when, when you get the call, when you're 45, like Philip Rivers, baby, God, how good was that? You never out of it. For him. Everyone loved it, dude. We all wanted him to go and fucking get him into the playoffs or at least put up some dubs and, um, yeah, man, that shit was epic. He did a good job. He did. I thought he did do a really good job, and as a granddad, man, I was like, unbelievable like saying. Yeah, with his high school team watching. Yeah, playing the game was awesome to watch, but then even his comments after the game about just like not being afraid and like facing, like, I just think it was having that courage. Yeah. Man, he's such a, just a, the pinnacle of what a quarterback and like a football player is. So it was awesome to see him back out there. It is also cool to see you guys, like, you guys get so much better at your job. It's such a weird thing because you guys get better at your job, but your skills, you know, decline as you age. And so mentally, mentally, you keep going this way, yeah, fortunately, the physical aspects start going down. But he got out there. He looked like he hadn't missed a beat. Like he, the game was slow for him. He was like, no, I know with this app, I've seen that before. I know what they're going to do. He's in control, yeah. Yeah, totally. So that was really, that was really cool. I've always thought that's a tough part of, of, you know, the, the athlete's life is, is, um, I talked to a baseball player once who was kind of a journeyman second baseman. And he was retired, he was like 37 and he was, he was retiring and, and I said, what happened? And he was like, well, he's like, look, my bread and butter was a 95 mile an hour fastball. And, and he goes, someone threw me a 95 mile an hour fastball, my eyes got big and I swung and I was late. Yeah. And I looked at the catcher and the catcher looked at me and then I looked at the pitcher and he goes and he gave me another one and I was late again. He struck me out on three pitches. He goes and then, you know, they're, with all the analytics, they're all looking at, he goes, within two weeks, I was out of the league. Like everybody was strong. Wow. This fastball and he goes, the sad thing for me is that I, I, he goes, I know more about hitting now. He goes, if you, if you put my 37 year old brain in my 21 year old body, I'd be in the hall of fame. Yeah. It's crazy. Imagine like that. Yeah. That's a crazy thing because I was, I was about his age and I was like, I'm just getting into the meat of my career now, like this is, this is getting more and more fun and that's, that's, it's a tough decision, man. It's a tough decision. So I feel for you. Whatever you make is going to be the right decision though. Like we said earlier, man, this is a silly life I get to live, brother. So whether, whether I'm coming back on the field or not, man, I'm, I'm, I'm still living it to the fullest, man. Well, and you guys, this is great too. This whole forum and everything that you guys made here is like, it's like, see, there's a lot, you know, it was like, well, like Strayanne said to me years ago, you know, like he, he had, he, there was another life after that he, that he was excited about too. So, yeah. And Strayanne, man, he's been an awesome dude to me since I've been the league and helped me, numerous off seasons, trying to figure things out. So shout out to Stray, always looking out. Thank you to our partner, HBO Max. The pit is back with a brand new season tomorrow January 8th at 9 p.m. Eastern. All right. Here's the deal. It's starring Emmy Award winner Noah Wiley. All right. 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Let's go ahead and get into this last segment. It's called we got to ask, but you don't have to answer, you can tell us the fuck off. You were talking about your kids earlier as a fellow father of four girls. What is your piece? What is your best piece of a girl dad advice for Jason over here? Man, I got nothing. I got nothing for you. You're in it. You're in it. I heard before we started, I heard the kids in the back. I was like, oh my God, you know, I do have to say that, you know, there was a, you guys went to eat or at least your wife did at a restaurant in Montana, Ming's, Ming's side is the chef there and Ming's a friend of mine and he told me this was the greatest thing. He goes, Jason Kelsey's wife is a rock star, he goes, yeah, he's got, yeah, he just, like, she came in, he goes, she's got like an eighth month old on one arm, she's got a toddler here, she's got, she had four kids hanging off her, he was like, she has a boss. It was like, it was very, very cool. So I don't think I need to give you any advice because it sounds like you married the right woman in the state. She's a boss, you know, she is a boss and she's got to deal with me to a fifth kid. Unfortunately, I missed that because I do Monday night football, but I heard, she's phenomenal. She's incredible with the kids. The only bit of advice whenever I get, I get asked that question too. And my first thing I tell people with advice with kids is, don't listen to any advice anybody else. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta figure it out. They're also different. I don't know how you feel about yours, but the moment one comes out there, like, more sensitive, this one's a little bit more like rambunctious, like every single one of them is like their own person and it's like right away, like the moment they start talking, it feels like they're different. Man, I used to have the, I used to be a real, you know, in that nature, nurture argument. I, but I'm now on this like nature, like, that's a thing, you know, like, your kids show up, like, that spirit, that soul is there and it's going to do what it's going to do. And, and, and the nurture part is very important, you're going to be a part of helping with that. But they really are who they are like right away and and and the it's that's like a been a profound and they and as they grow Older you still see in their infant face you still see them as they're You know it's the only thing I'd say an old friend of mine said when my when my 19-year-old was probably 18 months said don't blink Don't blink and and that and that is that shit is real my daughter broker collarbone and this morning she was getting ready for school she's 17 and She asked me to brush her hair and So I I brushed her hair and I meant it was a like I hadn't brushed her hair I don't know eight nine year. You know what I mean, but but you're at that stage now where it's like you get them ready It's like you're brushing your hair lined up and you've got exactly right and those and it's the grit And I don't remember the last time that I don't remember when I brushed your hair for the last time It just kind of happened and then life kind of kept going and the changes are so incremental that like you Don't realize until I by ran the hairbrush to her hair and it's the same Like all of it. It's you know what I mean? Yeah, and it it buckled me man. It's like so, so don't blink Okay, I like that. I like that a lot You mentioned just a second ago about how you know an athlete learns more and Actually, no more they wish they knew more when they were younger as an actor writer producer is there something you know now that you really wish You knew when you were oh my god. Yeah, I mean It's like it's too long for me how would I would love to go back and remake all the movies again You know what I mean and and like I remember you know working with Steven Spielberg early on in my career and going like I Don't know enough about filmmaking to be next to this man right now Like I have so many questions and I don't know what the right questions are yet and so I remember just following him around and just I remember everything that guy ever said to me because I was trying to bank it because I knew it was going to come in handy And then as you know in the intervening 30 years or whatever I've Things that he said have come back as I've kind of learned them. Oh, man. That's what he was talking about You know so those kind of things I really got lucky and that I got to work with some amazing people and I'd love to be able to go Back through that process and work with even if I could just work with the people that I've already worked with again There's so much I didn't know and and and that's kind of the fun thing about making movies It's like it's it's it's always a different job the challenges of a day are always different and and it's always fun I don't know well, you're talking about some of your previous movies. Friend of the show George Clooney told us that Anything that guy's In talks with another oceans movie. Oh, okay. I thought he was going to play some fucking practical joke on I love that that's immediately where it goes. He's just he and he and he'll do the long ones that just go for you know It's he set it up nine years ago No, yeah, well, they're yeah, they're talking about it. Um, you know, I don't know. We'll see You know, these things. There's always they're always talking about it's a it's a it's a weird business You never know how things will coalesce and um, I mean, I'd love I'd love that group of guys and obviously we're we're down a few now You know We've lost a couple over the years, but like the there's a lot of love in that group for sure So yeah, if we can get our shit together, that'd be a lot of fun I know yeah, we have a clip here from school ties where you play a football player. Oh, yeah Would you mind breaking this play down? Sure Let's go No bar, baby. Let's go when you're asked off for me is said a block your ass off Watch watch what Brendan Fraser does to me Dude, I get Brendan Fraser. I really want to I really wanted to score the touchdown He's the good player, so guess what? This is like this is legendary dude. Yeah, not only could I not do the cut block He actually had to throw me in That was the first first feature film that I had a big role in and Ben's in that movie too That was a good game. It was Ben Ben Ben Affleck's in that Cole Hauser's in that Brandon Chris O'Donnell's in there like there's a really there's a there's a hell of a group of guys But we were all 20 years old That's crazy. That was awesome when you made the movie air. Yeah, did you did you get a chance to meet Mike? No, Ben Ben went down and talked to Mike and I was supposed to go but my kids had something that day so I stayed here and and Ben went down to meet Mike and Because this was before we made the deal to do it because we knew that if if Mike didn't wasn't down with it and you know You guys wanted to respect that a respected and V like there there would be no like we'd put all this work into a movie And then if if Jordan came out and was like that's bullshit like the movies just dead Yeah, but we want we we wanted his blessing even though you know He wasn't gonna be a part of it. It wasn't hit you know But Ben went down to talk to him and and and a lot came out of that meeting in fact he gave us kind of People who were more instrumental than we understood from the original script we read So we rewrote it the biggest thing he said was um because Ben asked him about his his uh His parents and he was like you know what you know what what role did your dad play? What do you need and and and Mike said he got he was like My dad was a great guy and he goes my mom runs shit Yeah, and Ben was like really he was like yeah, my mom runs shit and He's like you want to try to call my mother. He's like no no like And and that was like okay Well, who should play your mother and before he got mother out Mike was like viola Davis Wow, so just do it right away. Ben called me up from Florida where he was meeting with him And he was like dude good news bad news. I'm like what he's like but he's got Mike's blessing He's like he's like we got to rewrite the entire script because it's all about it's it's all about his mother And I go okay, you know great and he and he goes oh I go what's the bad news and he goes There's only one actor who will and I was like who and he's like viola Davis and I'm like all right You want me to call we we got to call American treasure viola Davis Listen, we can't make this movie unless you make it with us So that was There was a great young writer on that on that project and and he we Kind of rebuilt the whole thing around her character Wow and try to make a role that was worthy of you know, viola That's awesome very cool very cool. Is there anybody that you've Worked with you worked with a lot of acting legends, but is there anyone that you were starstruck with on set? Yeah, I mean, I think that's happened a lot of times to me, but I went on on saving private Ryan Tom Hanks said something to all of us. I actually I asked him about a he did this movie a long time ago called nothing in common And Jackie Gleason played his father and Jackie Gleason was like this, you know, bigger than life You know star of the honeymooners and all this and and I asked him a Tom about it and and Tom said I asked him if he was nervous And Tom goes you know what he stopped and he goes I made the decision not to be nervous I made the decision not to be intimidated by and it was that it was really good advice. I was like 25 or 26 and it was and it was like you know You got to just approach the work, you know, and you got to approach people kind of as they are You know, I mean it was just like a very There's very helpful in the sense that you know, I think I I could have been intimidated by a lot of the people that I am um because I because I'm a fan of theirs, you know, I'm a fan and I and I still feel that way about a lot of people I work with I did but it's more more like it's it's better to appreciate them for the work that they do But leave the rest of the shit out at the door so that you can actually get some work done That's awesome advice man shout out the Tom Hanks man. I'm gonna start using my advice the man with one red shoe, baby Let's go The money pit We always end the segment by asking everyone. What was there? Welcome to Hollywood moment the story you just told us was pretty Fucking iconic early in your career, but was there ever a moment that was just like holy shit. I'm doing this or Could it be good could be bad could be just uh, you know Yeah, I think that The biggest like the one I think about all the time was when good will hunting when we you know It was such a like a rollercoaster from from writing it to selling it to you know developing it to going the turnaround to getting picked up at another studio There's all this stuff that the first day we were shooting Um, and then we were actually rolling film and the movie was getting made and and it was a scene Between Stella and Skarsgard and Robin Williams Ben and I weren't even in the scene, but we went To watch and when they called action and those two like heavyweight actors amazing actors started talking started saying the shit that we wrote Like we just just tears coming down and I think that was like that was that was definitely a kind of an amazing moment Because it was like this is real like even if nothing happens with this movie, like, we got it made. - We're doing it. - We were like, we were like rocky in the first one, where it's like, we didn't even want the belt. (laughing) We just wanted to go 15 rounds and still be there. And so that was kind of the moment where we were like, this movie's actually gonna happen. - That's awesome. - Fucking iconic. - If you had any advice for somebody that was looking into getting into writing or acting, or what would your advice be? Like, what's the best way to get started or learn? Or, yeah, I don't know. Well, it's like a trade. So it's to do it, you know? And so find really good people to study under and try to apprentice yourself too. And, you know, if you want to write screenplays, I'd go probably online now. You can probably get every screenplay. Just read, just read, you know, read 10 of them a week. And just start by Osmosis. You'll start to understand kind of the form. Read the movies that you like and see what they look like in script form. And then read movies, even that you don't like very much and see what they look like. And that's kind of how we did it. We kind of backed into writing because we were unemployed. Nobody wanted us. And so we were like, we better write our own thing. And we were kind of able to do that 'cause we'd read so many hundreds of scripts. And then seeing those movies get made and seeing what became of them. And we'd seen what got cut out and what survived and what worked on the page and what worked on the screen and all that stuff. So yeah, the more you can expose yourself to it and be around other people who are interested in it and, you know, make it a focus for your time and energy than, you know, the better shot you have. It's a brutal business, though. You know, my old answer to that was always like, I would just tell people, don't do it, don't do it. No, honestly, because every single person told us not to do it. Like everybody, there was nobody in my life who said, yeah, this is good. You should do this. Like it was a suicide mission, basically. You know, like you're not gonna make any money. You're not gonna, you know, you're just gonna go out and get beaten down by the world. It's like a, you know, in the first hundred times you go audition, you usually just get rejected and it's humiliating and it's like, you know, you gotta have, you gotta really, really, really want. - Do you think the landscape has changed it all from when you were trying to come up? - Totally, totally, totally different business. Like I don't know what to, I have trouble 'cause I don't know where the business is going. And so I don't know what to tell. But the things that matter, still matter. Like if you love acting, if you love writing, then it doesn't matter where the business is going. You're gonna find your place in the business. But yeah, just doing it as much as you can. Like it really is, it's a trade. Like people try to put all this focus, focus around it. But it's like, you know, being a carpenter, like, you know, can you build a house, right? So just start working on that and eventually you'll be able to. - Get out, I'll just put in, man. - Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. - Brother, thank you for the wisdom. Thank you for the stories. - Here we go. - Appreciate the time, man. - Thank you guys, man. - And thank you, thank you for the writ, man. On Netflix, January 16th, everybody go check it out. Matt David. - Thank you guys. - I really appreciate it. You guys are awesome. - Brother. - Thank you for coming all over. - Thank you for having me, man. This is awesome. I really do watch you guys a lot. Like for a dude who's supposed to have a job. - Well, we appreciate it, man. - It's all right for taking up your real space. - No, no. (laughing) - I am gonna get recommended this on my fucking phone. We're gonna be good. - Alrighty, everybody that wraps up this episode of New Hyde. Thank you so much to Matt Damon. - You. - This is absurd to begin to talk to an individual of his. - It's so crazy. - And we will take full advantage of it. Make sure you subscribe to the New Hyde channel. YouTube and follow New Hyde's on the Wundery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to the new episodes of The New Hyde's ad free right now by joining Wundery plus on the Wundery app or on Apple Podcasts. - Once again, New Hyde's a Wundery show brought to you by Intuit, TurboTax. Don't forget to do your taxes, ladies and gentlemen. Make it a whole lot easier, bud. Doing it with Intuit, TurboTax. Follow the show on all social media @newhydeshow with one S for fun clips throughout the week. We got a bunch of them for you, man. Matt Damon, thank you so much. Thank you to the New Hyde's production team for making this thing a fun ride for all of us. And thank you to the 92% of us for tuning in. I hope you guys enjoyed it. We'll see you next week. 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I got steam coming on my ass right now. Yeah.