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Occupy Wall Street + The OC

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Occupy Wall Street + The OC

The podcast concludes Season 2 with a nostalgic, playful, and deeply personal reflection on media, identity, and activism. Hosts Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Rohn celebrate the cultural impact of *The OC*, highlighting its complex characters, stylish visuals, and groundbreaking representation of LGBTQ+ and youth experiences. They connect this to their own memories of growing up and find resonance in the show’s themes of rebellion, authenticity, and self-discovery. The discussion expands to include the Occupy Wall Street movement, with personal anecdotes from attending protests in Portland, emphasizing its role as a grassroots resistance against economic inequality. The hosts link these experiences to their own journey of self-acceptance and overcompensation, using humor and self-awareness to explore how media shapes identity. They also promote various brands, blending advertising with genuine conversation about lifestyle, wellness, and community. The finale ends on a note of excitement for Season 3, promising a surprise release and deeper audience engagement, reinforcing the podcast’s mission to create a shared space for reflection, joy, and activism. Throughout, the tone is warm, irreverent, and emotionally grounded, reflecting both the highs of media fandom and the power of collective action.

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The following podcast is a dear media production. Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah, what's wrong? Nothing. Pretty sure. Yeah, no, I just need a ride. Ride. Oh, I don't know why I just want to have fun. I'm gonna start your engine. I'm Benito Skinner. I'm Mary Beth Rohn. And this is. Ride. California. California. Feeling so me go. Let me go now. I haven't done that all season, but I am feeling so me go to be here for the finale of season. So is what we do and we did it, girl. And I just did all of that again, because we were recording. I can always do two takes. Just don't ask me to do three, Chad. No, I would never do something such as that. I'm wearing loafers. I'm ready to talk. Okay, well, I guess we should just get into it. Are there any housekeeping items you have for me? I'm going to check my list. So you want to finale? We want this one to be 15 minutes. Quick and dirty. 15 minutes. Today was a crazy day because the teaser's out and I'm fine to date the pod. Wow, we're dating the pod for the very first time. For the very first time in podcast history, we are dating the pod. We do record this sometimes before it comes out. We record this sometimes before it comes out. It's not live, which just is, I think that's a bummer and I'm sorry. Hey, I wish we could do it live every week. Teaser's out to end on my girl with a headset. And I knew that Barone HQ would eat that up. And put me next to the teacher from Lizzie McGuire movie. Of course, she's in her head. She's in her head. She's in her head. She's in her head. On that topic of overcompensating, which I sometimes call the OC. The OC. But then I know I'm going to confuse people. Well, sometimes when I try to make the graphics of me, you Adam Wally, it's OC, but we are siblings. But we end up as Benjamin McKenzie and Misha Barone. But you know what? Let it rock, let it rock, let it start reference. It's a reference. It's just a reference visually. Wally is so summer and Adam is so sad. Do you remember youth of the nation from Blue Crush? That feels like post 9/11 media, even though I'm not sure if it was. My football highlight reels were post 9/11 media to be called. Oh my god. I wish I had it for you. You know what I heard the other day and I go, we didn't talk about that on the pod. I'm here without you, baby. But you're still on my lonely mind. I think about you. That was in our way going to Afghanistan. And I dream about you all the time. Oh, the time. So that's what makes me, uh, when September runs. So I didn't like Green Day for a while because they hated George Bush. Little did I know. Little did I know. Yeah. One day I would not only be standing the band. I would also be riding for Occupy Wall Street. Now that's it's a spoiler. But today for the finale, I'm riding for Occupy Wall Street. And you're riding for it. It's a car jack, which I love coming up with these. I told Terry we have a special episode coming after this one. You guys are going to love it. I said, oh, yeah, it's called the school bus. And he goes, I think you guys should stop. He's like, I don't think you need to always do that. He's like, I think we get it. Also, Terry, 2 minutes 10. 2 minutes 10. Yes, I'm doing a car jack today and I'm riding for something that Mary Beth was obsessed with it with the OC. I've been rewatching it at a pace that is making people worried. One can only describe it as it's clinical. Of course. It's a clinical level. If we're doing the A&TM photo shoot, it's gluttony. I'm gluttony. It's gluttony. It's my friend lit. I think I said this in the last episode. And if not, I'll edit, you know, of course. We can cut whatever we need to. I like feeling like fucking with you today. I don't know why. But yeah, he's been doing one a day and he's like, how many are you doing? And I'm like, look, 4 to 5. 4 to 5. It's only 5 hours. It's not even long. There was, I had a break, 5 minutes in between zooms. And I almost went to watch it. And I was like, oh, okay. I can't relax. It's that good. It's just that good. And can I say what else is just that good? The other, I see. Ever compensating. Over compensating. So, yeah. Baronees, please send your questions to this is [email protected]. Any questions you have about over compensating. Questions you have about the cast. We will answer them for you. But we're not going to say how or when. We're not going to say how or when. We would never. Amazon's at the door. They're big. Oh, my god. Wait, I'm sorry. I'm back in the bunker. I'm in the detention center. Well, yes, you posted the trailer two minutes before you were supposed to. They found me. Amazon found me. The government found me. I was in the group text with Pete Higgseth as well about Yemen. And I was like, guys, I want to be I want to divest from the narrative. Please let me leave this group chat. I would very much like to be excluded from the narrative. That was married back in every episode we would read. Pete Higgseth, Pete Higgseth sent that text. That's like, are you ready to see it? Receive information that could potentially hurt you? And I was like, I don't want it. Please, please don't tell me. But he sent it anyway. And now here I am. Catch me on a weird day. And I'm like, maybe. Maybe, but that day I didn't want to. I had already been going through a lot. And so have you seen adolescence? Sorry. I don't know what I've been actively avoiding it actually. Whoa, I, well, I feel like I got arrested last night. It's an incredible show. But it's just kind of OC or nothing for me right now. And I say that with love to everyone involved. Like I've tried to watch other things. And I know that Adolesce, me and Adolescence will have a moment. But I just, it made me so panicky that I had to, I had to exit. And for anyone else who's feeling that way. I would say if there's a complete polar opposite of a show, we made it. And I, and there's room for both, which is important. And I will watch it. What's so cool about media? I will watch it eventually. I just don't want to watch it right now. Let's watch it together at Coachella. Oh, perfect. Yeah, well, I'm not going to see any of the performers. Well, of course not. I'm bringing my laptop to stream. They're like, Hey, are you at the, what's it? I literally almost said the manjaro tent. Leaving LA, I should move. It's the Sahara tent, my love. The Sahara tent. And we're like, we kind of have our own Sahara tent. I didn't know you're so puny and I don't know. On that note, I did want to say that sweet greens are sanctuary cities for baronies. So if you ever feel unsafe or like, you know how there's like, sanctuary cities for like certain demographics, sweet green is our, is a sanctuary city. A quasi-motor's mom. What doors do you think she was banging down? That was a sweet green love. Oh my god. Sexuary, sexuary. You bring up this hunchback of Notre Dame literally every chance you get. Well, I was saying to Terry, I think there's something beautiful in the animated films that exist now, but they are so starkly different than the absolute batshit-ass insane things that we grew up with. I was in the car last night and I'm like, maybe this is the woke mob spot. No, I think it's the fact then, kids needed to be exposed to like trauma and heartbreak because their siblings were dying of polio and the measles. And then it became like, oh, childhood is actually something to be celebrated. People should stay kids as long as they can. And so they started making movies that like were heartfelt and hopeful, but I was thinking about all dogs go to heaven too and how I want to talk about that in season three or four. It's definitely not a season two topic because it's really like, that movie is about like, it's about the mob and it's about where dogs go and they die. And it's like not like, it's like fucking scary. Oliver and company also about the mob. And on that note, Bambi Dumbo, I mean, they're all just like so sad. Tarzan, let's say together one, two, three, chosen family. Oh, for sure. Tell me that's not about chosen family. The death count in Tarzan will send its shield down your spine. And there is a full scene in Hunchback. I think I've literally talked about it. I'll talk about it again. Where that nasty little priest, I think he's a priest. Don't know the official title. His song is about like being attracted to Esmeralda. It's very much like your haters are your biggest fans. That was a tough lesson for kids when she didn't end up with Quasi. I don't know what they were trying to teach us with that. In the book, she's, she dies. I found that out. I didn't realize. But in the movie that, you know, they don't end up like that. But in the book, I do believe she's burned at the stake. So Disney was kind of like, have you read this fucking crazy ass book? Someone I know that crime and punishment was, was pitched during that time. Oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, Han Zimmer. I just saw a clip of Han Zimmer talking about scoring the Lion King because his dad died when he was six years old. And he decided to work on that movie because his daughter was six years old. And he had not worked on a movie that his daughter could like, he could share with his daughter. So he watched the movie and I have chills literally. He was like, I watched the movie and it is about like, it is about a child losing his father. And he was like, admittedly with fart jokes. But he was like, when you hear the score, it's like, it is like four of my fault. Like, I wrote it four of my fault. Oh, I just got chills because I just pictured, oh my god, that moment. when fucking Simba starts to go out pride rock and he goes, and it's done. Simba. Remember I used to do that as a kid. I used to do that as a kid all the time. Perfect impression. Well, yeah, it's in my arsenal. James Earl Jones. I'm literally what an incredible man. I miss him. I think that that's the best vocal performance. He has the two best vocal performances of all time. Darth Vader and Mufasa. Yeah. Wow. That's impact. One of the greats. That's impact kitchen and we said we're not talking about James Earl Jones until the finale of season two. We had that conversation. It was in. We said they're not ready. It's in the contracts. Correct. It's in the contract. I want to redefine the word posthumous to mean like after you've been canceled. So it's like you can like put something up posthumously, but it's like like Shane Gillis has had a Netflix special. It was like his posthumous Netflix special. Do you get that? Yeah. I think that's great. To me, you're now I feel like you're just trying to get clipped by interior media. They're begging for it. I have a separate notes app for things. I think dear media will clip you want them to clip all of this. Let's see if I've got anything. Well, I have all my OC notes. This is the first time I've ever taken notes for the pod. Pod opening. Let's see if there's anything that we forgot. This is fly cleaners caused my break up. Yeah, but that feels season three or four. Can we keep the line though? Well, of course. Yeah. Yeah. So I was dating someone when I was like 24 and 25 and I said to him like I just think if I think fly cleaners will lose our stuff. And let's just say like two weeks later, we weren't dating anymore. We lived together, by the way. So we'll talk about that in season three. I do have a thing here about sometimes dog smell really bad in your hand smells bad after petting them. And if you have one of those dogs, give it a bath. I don't know why I'm like, do you know what to do, clip that to stuff. Here's my thing. It's like at least give me a warning. Now my hand smells like Zooty pie and I will say it as many podcasts as it takes. If the trash bin is full, you can put the dog shit in it. If it is empty, you're a bad person, I fear. You can't do that. I hate the idea of more surveillance, but I do think like sometimes these people need to be like talking about surveillance. Let me say, oh my God, adolescence, well, it's just like I just was not ready. Adolescence was put on the TV and I did not give my consent in the way I was not mentally ready for that. So not to give away. Well, here's the happy story. My dad got a call a few weeks, maybe a couple of months ago from someone who was like, I'm your cousin. So a pair of sisters married a pair of brothers. So like on both sides, they're cousins. Do you get what I mean? Yeah, totally. So they're double cousins. And then he came to my parents house for dinner and he's just like a lovely guy. He knows like a ton about our family history on my dad's side. So it's just crazy that one like that can happen at any age. You can have a new family member. Yeah. And also just the idea what a thrill to have a double cousin to sisters marrying two brothers. Wow. It's very, the kids are all right, but like a new spin on it. Exactly. Exactly. And I think Terry would like it. Oh, he would love. He asked to watch that movie every single night and I'm like, really, that's your heart's desire. So I'm going to say just surprise my man. I would love to shake Mark Buffalo's hand and just say like, thank you for everything. Do you get that? I agree. I know he gives good hugs. Oh, my God. You know what? And aftershave and pipe tobacco. What is that? What is that? What is that? Cinnamon and pipe tobacco. I scared the shit out of this woman recently because I hugged her and I went by the fireplace and she went, yeah. What woman? Who are you hugging? Here I go again. We were doing an edit for the trailer forever compensating and this woman who worked with the main editor. I hugged her and I was like, by the fireplace, it blew her mind. I think to have a man know anything, she didn't know I was gay yet. I think. Oh, and thank you. Okay. So men's spatial awareness is also in this, in this note, how many times have you seen? Okay. Picture this. Straight men. You know you're talking straight men. Of course. This happened to me and it really, it brought up a lot for me. Okay. Picture this. You're walking into the Soho House into Holloway House. And there are two women and one man in a semi circle having a conversation in front of the door. What's that? I smell. What's that brand? What's that? It's couch head. Yeah, keep going. You're approaching the door and as you get closer, you notice the man who is blocking the door the most is not moving over even slightly and in fact, hasn't moved at all. And then you have to watch one of the women he's with put her hand on his back and physically push him out of the way of my way so I can get in the door. I have seen that happen at social functions. I've seen it happen on mass transit. I've seen it happen at airports. What are men not seeing? Is their peripheral vision okay? Because they're not seeing that like there is a figure, a human shape person walking towards them and they need to move. This is same with that airports and stuff and they never know the size of their bag that they're carrying. Hey, just to just so you know your bag is in a ghost, hey, sir, I'm not sure if you know this, but your bag is in a ghost. It hit me. So it's it's a physical thing. It's a part of you and I would probably like watch where you move it. Yeah, that and then I have to say I've been in a few lunches with straight men recently where they were speaking so loudly and also their bodies were opened up to the whole restaurant and I was kind of like, if you want to just do a set, I'm sure you could find a standup shirt. Like I'm sure you could you could get a mic. Like if you really want one, I bet we could find that for you. If you want to put on a show, honey, there's menus all over the city. Totally. It's like, but I'm trying to eat a quinoa bowl and I want it to be private and intimate, but I'm over it. Yeah. Maybe this is a difficult conversation that like girlfriends of straight men need to have and mothers. I would say perhaps I would start with the compliment. I don't want to set these guys off. Let's start with the compliment. But let's say it's a roller coaster built them up for you to tear them down. Exactly. I do want to shout out all the bronies who are on the way, bronies on board, all the pregnant bronie moms. And then I read on the Reddit today that someone was referring to their unborn child as fucker Jones, whenever the baby would do something annoying, like kick her or whatever. And I just love the fact that I mean, it's just so beautiful and we can't wait to watch these children grow up with, with just love in the home. I'm picturing AirPods, AirPods Max's on the baby bump and they're listening to our for our O.S.A. episode, they're turning up. And their moms are whispering to them, "I'll never keep a secret." Wait, Jackson, what was your favorite episode, me begging for compliments because the world is so scary? No, honestly, I loved the bond episode. Oh. Fascinating. I love that. That feels very schoo-na, schoo-na. And thank you for bringing up our parent company, Amazon, who has just gotten the rights from the broccoli family for James Bond. You're looking at you. You're looking at you and a bond, girl. And Emma. They're going to have people, they're going to have me in old lady prosthetics. It's like Emma. Oh, very ex. I love that. Yeah. Very ex. Cool. Should we get into what we write for in this big finale date? What was your favorite of the season, actually, before we get into it? Because I'm curious. Me. This is so random, but I really, for some reason, when I was editing Kelly Roarbox Instagram, the sensory experience of hearing us describe pictures. You made me laugh. I was laughing. So hard. So hard. You were so cute. No, it was so funny. Let us know which ones you guys like. It's always your favorite. What was your favorite? My favorite. I think it was Kelly Roarbox. I was laughing. I was pissing myself at you during that. I don't know why. My gosh. There was something else that really made me laugh. Let me, if I just see them, I'll see it. I'm starting a doc of jokes we can't talk about until season six, and we'll bleep this, but you know what I thought of the other day. What? Best believe I'm still a jeweled, a turn your mouth into a shitter. Oh, we can do that now. So I ruin every song I sing with Terry. And I have to. It's the first thing I do. Like I just did. So debuting. Relationships. What's all this talk of relationships? I just have to. I don't know why my brain does that. so while you work, go out, go out, go out, go out. Also all my life, I would love parages. I don't think they're ready for parages. Have we talked about parages? I don't think so. I'm parages. I have no way. It doesn't make sense. I would do that. Do you get it? Parages. Do you get the joke, Jackson? No. Well, there's no one. No one does. So Jackson, do you get it now? I still don't get it. Am I dumb? I'm not getting either. It's just literally fucking up the lyrics or something. So do bejeweled. Do bejeweled. Best believe I'm still bejeweled when I walk in the room. I can turn your mouth into my own personal shit. It's so dumb. This is why I have to speak. Best believe I'm still becruel. Speaking of sitting at a dinner, I met Melanie Oysters and Benny's pointing his mouth and saying, I can turn your mouth into a shitter. I'm just bored. Hey, babe, if you want to do a set, we'll find you a save. Really, you go fuck it. Melanie, you go, what's it, what's down the block? Virgil? The Virgil's right down the street, babe. Yeah, that's one, 16 parages, and then, uh, Qua, Marine, and then I changed it to, uh, Qua, Poutine. On, he died soon. I, some of these girls listening are gonna latch onto these and ruin their friends days. Ruin their relationships, I would say, relationships. I saw this chunk of these relations. Recently, though, Terry, he's working with a new musician and we were listening to the song, and I immediately did one, and he was like, just give me a week with it first. And I respected that. He was like, let me come up with the vision and then we'll get into that then we can get into you absolutely just demolishing bastardizing bastardization of fabulous pop music okay so we get to know oh you want to say something well no I'm just yeah I today for the last ride of season two I'll be writing for DOC and I will be writing for a little left wing populist movement called Occupy Wall Street. 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who cares ride so I have been taking notes while watching the OC I have a few things I want to talk about I'm just going to read these off and if anything sparks let me know Jackson you can stop me at any time though okay just let me give me one beat after each thing and I'll say if I want if I want to amplify or add to perfect we're just firm and we move on you do the SOS Ryan's arm band amplify so Ryan Howard for those who haven't seen the OC it's about this boy from chino who grew up on the wrong side of the tracks and his brother gets him in trouble at the beginning he's in trouble with the law and this lawyer comes who takes him into his house and they adopt him this lawyer and his very rich wife who live in Newport Beach in the OC they have a son Seth and he becomes fast friends with Ryan outwood next door is this family friend Marissa Cooper the hottest girl in town who's loose girlfriend and her best friend is summer who Seth is in love with and I think that's kind of it it's just like a life and times of these four hotties in high school in in the OC in Orange County so Ryan has an arm band that he wears throughout the entirety of the show it's leather I would say if I had to shout out a brand I think fossil comes to mind but it is you call it an arm band or a bracelet so this this is kind of a question it's kind of giving Helen of Troy he also is a choker I don't want to I don't want to breeze past that he is a jewelry guy so I know that best believe he's still the cruel so here's the thing he is a jewelry guy he also always has like quite possibly the biggest watch you've ever seen on his other arm so he's a man of balance certainly but this arm band it's leather it's it is a part of I think every episode that I've seen up to now I'm on his chain Ryan Howard's quote unquote arm band walked so conno's chain in normal people could run and his choker his choker yeah it's really tight I would say he also wears these tanks like he's always in a white tank and he's pumped with a short sleeve button down over it well of course and he also kind of like sometimes has like bangs in a bull cut and kind of like chic way but he meant the world to me as a kid and rewatching the show now I get why I just I love this absolute stud next or do you want to amplify more no I love that I love where we got with that one loose dad being gay can I say something to you yes Mustang dealership I think it's Mustangs it felt like Mustangs his dad being gay he calls Adam Brody's character Seth Aquair the whole time in a way that's just like it's this is all Luke says for the first like four episodes well he's a water polo player well of course Luke's dad being gauges I was just watching and it took my breath away I don't think I really registered that as a kid I definitely watched it too young very much giving youngest sibling and that I was watching this that like way too young an age to really like sit with Julie Cooper but even at like nine I could really see a lot of myself and Julie Cooper so she is just I mean Melinda Clark amazing performance she really plays it like it's hamlet but I don't okay one thing about Luke first so I made a take talk about this because I rewatch season one of the OC in the pandemic yeah he is such a fascinating character because the writers literally said we are going to make Luke whatever we need him to be in this episode character consistency be damned I had a whiplash he's a bad guy then he's a good guy then he's beating someone up then he's accepting his gay dad then he's fucking Marissa's mother you're leaving out the craziest thing he did of all he moved to Portland which we'll get into in a minute you want to talk about occupy let me tell you a little town called Portland or again yeah he moved to Portland Portland is very it's really present in the show it's kind of like it's on the menu for the west coast kids Portland is like the place you could go to like you know be who you really are and I think that's cool yeah would you want to keep going on Luke's dad being gay I think we nailed it I feel good no that's it it was it was boundary pushing and I think it was important for that to happen it immediately broke up the whole family well yeah but I I just thought it was cool. Two dudes in suits hooking up at an auto dealership and your son in the end's like, you know what, dad? Like, I'm gonna love you and let's move to Portland. Marissa putting her hair behind her ears. I don't know exactly what I meant by this, but you know what I mean by this. We can continue. - 100%. - Yeah. - Summer is Bimbo rights. - Oh, my God. Okay. - Summer. Summer very similar to Aaron Paul's character in Breaking Bad. Summer was not supposed to be in the show for the whole season, but on the whole show. It wasn't until midway through season. One that she's even in the iconic, if we're talking about iconic theme song, but she's not in the opening in the beginning. Tate Donovan has a card and she does it. It's kind of-- - She had to work her way up. - Same with the guy who plays Luke, he has one. - Oh, also, my friends and I did an OC parody. I think I talked about this on a (beep) but I'm not sure. We did an OC parody called the FC 'cause we're from Fairfield County. And we still have the tapes. It's two about 10 minute episodes and I obviously play Marissa Cooper. So we changed the theme song. We've been on the run looking for some bagels driving down I-95. Fairfield County here we come. So I just want to shout out to all my girls who were in that with me. I was able to costume an entire cast of people with just the clothes that I had at my house. Every character. - Well, that's very overcompensating. - Including Dr. Roberts, by the way. - Stop. - Jake played Dr. Roberts, he played Johnny, he played. He played a bunch of people. - Airfield County. - Here we go. - Here we go. - It's pretty good. - Summer is Bimbo writes though. I just think she's an incredible character and that's called being a star. You show up and they're like, damn, we tried to make you one note. Sorry, you're complex. You can see multiple. - Not possible. - We'll see you in season two. I can't stress enough how many fucking episodes they have per season. It's like 25. - It's unbelievable. It's very gossip girl. - Very gossip girl. - Us Schwartz did both of these is insane to me. - Also, I know Summer would have fucked with Ride the Pod. - Oh, she would have fucking loved it. And Marissa would have been like, what are you listening to? - What even is that? - What is this? Misha Barton, if you're listening, sweetheart, I love you so much. - Deer. - Generational talent. - Deer God. And she has, I watch her storylines and I'm like, this is really hard. Like these are, her acting, I'm like, this is a really complicated character. They don't give Marissa one good fucking day on earth. And I'm not gonna talk about it because you know when I get to season three, I'm not even watching the episode to be clear. - Out of respect for all those involved. - For everyone involved. The show ends at graduation. Goodbye. Thank you. - I don't know if this is on your list but I don't want to talk about all of your trust. - He's not and I think I knew that you wouldn't. But can I just say what an unbelievable storyline? - I was watching that on a Delta flight just buried in my phone and the fact that I looked up at the end and I met a Barroni flight attendant, my darling loves. - Oh my God. - It was such a doll. And it was just really disorienting to go from living with Oliver Trask for the past three hours on the flight to having to say like, thank you, you know, I'm so glad we landed. - The nearest eve where Marissa's wearing a cut out black dress with a poof and a ponytail. And when Ryan comes in, right at the stroke of midnight, nothing can compare to when they're rolled with the dress and say, get up the phone, we knew nothing. Get back to when you fuck me, nice, it's wet. - See, I can take anything and do that. - And just make it filth. - Wait, what were you gonna say? - No, that was it. - You're so Marissa. Her La Caspolo's, I didn't write that in your butt. - Oh, the La Caspolo's, the juicy zip-ups, the skirts. I mean, it's all, it's all there. - Can I say something to you? Chanel tote. - Oh, and when she became the face of kids, how many pairs of kids do you think I had? - Oh, I can't even imagine. I know you had the slip on ones too. - I sure did, babe. - Backless, Julie Cooper's streaks, Kirsten Cohen, and Julie Cooper, their hair streaks is very Kelly Clarkson, right away, I think, is that what I'm thinking of? But the streakage in the hair, and there is a five episode stretch in season one where Kirsten, she has a different hairstyle and a different cut in every single scene and every take. And I just think it's like fucking sick. And I think she was trying to find it and she does find it. Also, Kelly Rowland, fabulous actress. - And Kelly Rowland? - No, it's just Kelly Rowland, is her name, I believe, that's just what Kirsten Cohen-- - I was singing of Kelly Rowland from Destiny's Files. - What's the name of Peter Gallagher? - He is fucking fabulous. - He's so good. - That's Andy Cohen. He's just like one of those guys. Seth being a loser is so 2003. This man couldn't be cuter. It's so Hillary Duff and the guy from Smallville going to that high school and she would buy the design. - Oh my God, and being-- - And they can't find a fucking friend. I'm like, I'll be your friend. You can both come all my ass. - Well, he likes graphic novels. He likes graphic novels. - I mean, he's just adorable. Seth is a very ribbit girl in this show. He ribbits for about the first 10 episodes, I'd say. - Oh, and you know what? When Summer dresses up as Wonder Woman, she should have been that. - She should have been DC's Wonder Woman. - She does look like Wonder Woman. I forgot that she did that. There's a lot of choose between us vibes. - Yeah. - There's a lot of love triangles. Yeah, especially in high school, I'm like. - So I actually have a separate note that says Kiki streaks. Her hair changes in every episode. It's a continuity nightmare. That really is my love letter to editors. And I'm sorry you had to deal with that. - This goes out to all my heads of the hair department. Bye and bye. - Bye, Summer's with the runway! Kiki Ross, back! - Here's the thing. So Julie Cooper-Nickel, this woman bodies that role, like Melinda Clark, you are a hero to us all. She has so many fabulous fucking line reads in this. Her and Marissa fight in every single scene. - She would do anything for her family. - No, I know, that's my thing. I think she's like, she is a true feminist first off, but I think she is fighter. She is so type. - She is sleepier way to the top. She is the mother to Willah Holland and Shaline Woodley, who both play the role of Caitlin. And for Willah Holland to then enter the Gossip Girl Cinematic Universe as Agnes, it's just like-- - Josh Warts. - You don't know what that meant to me. A lot of the decisions that were made in these shows, like they don't know what it meant to me. - I think they do now. I would say-- - I hope they do. I hope they're listening. Wait, didn't make G work on the OC or no? Am I thinking of speed? - So funny, you say this. Executive produced by Mick G. - And I said, you go and jump if Mick G made it. I think it's one of my favorite pilots of all time, whoever you want me to be. As the first line Ryan says to Marissa, it's very when you and I met. - Yeah. - And it's just one of those shows. It gets soapy, it's drama, it's quirky, it's funny, it's candy. - It's so funny, the scripts are so funny. - It's so hardcore though, at times, in a way that you're just like, like guns are certainly in the show. If you've seen Gossip Girl, if you're ready to just hunker down for a long spring, do it with the OC. And do I love the ending? No, but I think these shows, my heart goes out to writers who are writing a thousand episodes. I mean, 25 a season, it's like, oh, people being like, oh, it kind of has a low in the middle. I'm like, what else could they do? An alien abduction would be all I could pitch at that table. I'd be like-- - They did everything. - I literally don't even know. But I will say someone in that room hated Marissa. They hated me, Shabarton. They were like, she's gonna have the worst experience of her life again today, I guess. And then Olivia Wilde and her pencil thin eyebrows popped up on my screen and I went holy fuck. And I forgot about her in Marissa, which I feel like is handled in a very like, it's sexualized, like lesbians. I would say there's fuck a tree involved, but I feel like there's a part of it that I hadn't seen that kind of weirdness on screen and it certainly really wasn't-- - It was ability. - Yeah, it wasn't in gossip girl at all. I just remember like Serena's brother being gay and suicidal. That was all we got out of that. - Well, that's the only way. - Well, of course. And thank you, seeing myself reflected in media. - The vibe is ability. I mean, what was the, what was the music venue called? - Oh, the beach shop. - The beach shop was just huge. - The beach shop, whoever is the booker for the beach shop. Let's give them a raise. - They need a raise immediately. - Deathcap for booty. - Also, I mean, spoon, the soundtrack in and of itself. - The killers perform at the beach shop. And my thing is that like, there's all this drama going on. Like, I know that they had to build the beach shop on a sound stage, but it was so funny. 'Cause like, none of them are listening to the concert. They're all like, backstabbing each other and like, there's fraud and arson and like, all kinds of things going on. And it's like, the killers are performing. - Look, you can criticize some of the storylines. You can criticize some of the seasons. Whatever you wanna do, that's between you and God. But for me, it's just like, it was a golden age of television experience and to be watching it week to week. I mean, I hated when they would take breaks for holidays or-- - But you remember being at school and you knew a new episode was coming? And you're like, "Ah, I know the Oliver Trask storyline is gonna find its way." Oh, I will say one thing about him. He revolutionized a blazer at high school. And Seth, that's good style. - Also, this was when DVR was sort of new on the scene. And I wasn't allowed to watch TV on weekdays. So DVR was huge for me because I needed to still be up to speed on everything, but I couldn't always watch that day. But it was good to just know that a new episode was coming out and it was gonna be an hour and it was just gonna be like my little escape for the week. - God, it's just, it's making me feel so good. I finished over compensating. I do this every time I finish something, I need something like this. Like after the ride tour, we did all of gossip girl. - Yeah. - And then after this, I'm like-- - It's just good to decompress. - I just, yeah, and I just like, I don't have to think about what I'm watching. Every night, it's just like boom, we're watching the OC and I have never once skipped the intro song. Every time it pops up, I'm like, oh, have to be cold open. I'm like, fuck, like run that shit back. I love it. I just want to say Chanel prom dress, but oh, my God. Yeah. She wears a lot of Chanel. She has a ton of Chanel. I would say also Chanel hulketer. It's very nice and peri-ultimate. That would have been her drink of choice. Also, Misha Barton is always in flats because she's so much taller than the cast, which I love. Not a lot of behavior, but a lot of behavior girl. It is so you counted if you know what I'm talking about. Oh, please. Misha Barton, she walks so grace could run in a lot of ways and I definitely felt- Misha, you mean the world to me? I felt my influence of that show in the cliffhangers we do because like that, I love writing cliffhangers and I think the OC taught me that that's like that's how you end an episode. You can't- no, I can't- You have to. You gotta give him a little spicy. They gotta- they gotta click next. So yeah, OC, I love you and can I say something else to you, the OC mix volume one. You're going to Barnes and Noble, you're getting the CD and you're playing it. You're playing it starts to finish. Couple songs are a little too alt for you, but you make it through 'em and it's just fabulous. This video podcast is sponsored and brought to you by Squarespace. 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Holy shit you guys. I am so excited to tell you about Dylan Mulvaney's book. When paper doll notes from a late bloomer, Dylan pulls back the curtain of her It Girl Lifestyle with the witty and intimate reflection of her life, pre and post-transition. So I have been a follower of Dylan's for many, many years now and I absolutely love her content and I have to say her style and her tone and the way she writes and communicates translated so well to a book. I literally cracked the book open on Friday night and I cleared my plans because I needed to finish it. It's such a page turner. It's laugh out loud, funny and powerfully honest. Like I have to say, I truly laughed so many times while reading this book but it is incredibly moving and it's about Dylan's journey through girlhood and it is a love letter to everyone who stands up for queer joy. Wow, I can't shut up about this book. It's an instant New York Times bestseller and this springs must read memoir. This woman has lived a thousand lives. I mean, she writes about doing ayahuasca in the book just to give you a little preview. No spoilers though. And I just have to say I'm so proud of her for writing this book and I just truly enjoyed it so much. So if you're looking for a gift for someone who is a total bookworm, I would say pick up a copy of Paper Doll and get one for yourself too because you're going to love it. By your copy of this brings us read memoir, Paper Doll, available wherever books are sold. We're at a restaurant right now, Dylan, we ordered the chicken and I got a salad and fries. I got the chicken salad. It's one of those poor nights. To segue here because I do think that Marissa's dad taught me about embezzling, which would then be huge for us in the early 2000s when the Great Recession happened that was in bubble burst. Yeah, as Marissa said to her mom and dad, my dad's a thief and my mom's a whore. Well, exactly. And for a lot of people, that was the case when the big short happened. Oh, my God. To me right now on the screen, you're Margarabi in the bathtub with the shampoo and the big short. In the big short. And I'm explaining the Occupy Wall Street. Yeah, describing Occupy. It's just Occupy to me. Okay. It's just Occupy. It's Occupy movement. So I was Republican when the Occupy movement happened. So to me, these are just like a bunch of hippies who didn't want to go to work. And to me, it's like you do it on-per-fest. I know. Get your notes out. Tell me about Occupy. Okay. So first of all, it only happened for 59 days. I literally remember it being seven years. Well, wait. You're lying. It was longer than the Iraq War. It was 59 days from September 17th to November 15th, 2011. I just don't think that's true. Look, I'm seeing it in my research. In my head, it was three years. Exactly. And maybe that's just a testament to the impact of it. But basically, it was the left-wing populist movement against economic inequality, corporate greed, big finance, and the influence of money in politics. And it began in Zucati Park in New York City's financial district. So what I didn't realize, because I did know that they were like protesting the bailouts, the Bush past, where they helped banks get back on their feet, even though they wouldn't help Americans who had their life saving stone from them by Bernie Madoff. So there was a big ruling in 2010, which was the Citizens United versus the FEC. And the US Supreme Court ruled that corporations can give as much money as they want to political candidates. I'm picturing all the people listening to this fight, drinking like refresher is hearing. You talk about Occupy Wall Street. We are the revolution. We just need to. Well, it's because it's called balance. Yeah. Of course. One day, I'm going to bring you Kelly Warbox Instagram, and one day, I'm going to bring you Occupy Wall Street. And one day, you will see that those are connected. These protests gave rise to the wider Occupy movement in the United States and other Western countries. So I do believe that their slogan was, "We are the 99 percent." And I just think that this was so tight, it was so fight to, they brought tens. They camped out there for weeks, and I mean, I guess like 57 days or whatever. But I just think it's so cool that they were taking it to the streets, and that's. I don't know what they actually accomplished, and I refuse to look it up. But I just think it's the only way to cause change, is to cause a ruckus. And even though some media outlets might paint you as a whatever, hippie, and you're lazy, just imagine being at those protests. You can just look back and be like, "Fuck yeah, I did that." That's the first time America was giving French. Do you know what I mean? I literally do. It's the first time we acted French, and we've never done it since. But boy did I love it. I have like such a. I think what's a perfect experience with Occupy Wall Street, personally, my cousin lived in Portland. I can only guess on the same street as Luke's dad. Luke's dad. Luke's dad. And Jackson laughed at that. He let us skew now. And we were there for a wedding, and it was during the, I guess the week of Occupy Wall Street, but it was during Occupy Portland. I can't stress enough that were there any other Occupy in some Portland? Everywhere was closed. Like hotels were running. There's a park for us with shut down. We couldn't go anywhere. My parents were like, "Obviously, we agree with this, of course, but we are just kind of like, the whole city is not running. There's this park in the middle. There wasn't one frickin' belated grass. That wasn't all the time." That wasn't being sad upon it. It was. It was so iconic to me, and I just think about it, and I'm like, "I had the perfect front or seat of Occupy Wall Street." I was like, I think I was 16, where we were in high school, I think, when. No, we were 10. Really? During Occupy Wall Street? Yeah. It was 2011. Wow. Oh, holy fuck. No, I'm sorry. I was 20. What am I saying? Yo. Hey. I was born in 2001. You don't have to lie by your age. They know our ages. I sat as it is. And they know I'm 51 and I'm DB. I never said I was smart. I was like, "Don't bring that person in front of me." I remember having a football game and then seeing Occupy Wall Street in Portland. And if that doesn't show you the range, I think Portland was excited about it because they were certainly keeping Portland weird, but then I was happy to be part of it as well. I love this. I think it feels like community. It feels like really sticking it to the man in a huge way. And yeah, I wish we had some of that fight right now. You know? Can I tell you what it is to me? I want to make art and I want to make trouble. We are the 99%. originated like that variation originated from a Tumblr page. I'm seeing you at the Met Gala with that bedazzled on your chest. We are the 99% but you're at the Met Gala and I'm at the Met Gala and it's odd it's odd to cheer of course. Basically we are the 99% was quote-unquote arguably the most successful slogan since hell no we won't go of the Vietnam War era. Now I will be doing a Taylor's version of Ken Burns's Vietnam War documentary but that's down the line. This is very you coded. Don't even get my girl started on Vietnam War. You say Ken Burns around my girl she's ready to go. I will light it up. Yeah they had amazing branding I remember the signs also like everyone on the left is an artist so you know we had murals galore like my girls were turning it out so yeah I mean it was definitely art it was make trouble Corella coded it was very spray paint your face and it says the future in stencils on it and you know what it's kind of giving to me is Gotham City. Well let me tell you Portland felt like it as it so often does yeah we need more fire we need more energy and I do of course want to say before people come for me there was a crime issue in the encampment I'm not going to get into it too much I don't know if it was perpetuated by the protesters or by people who would come and like sort of antagonize the protesters but I do want to say that I I saw that in my research so I don't want that to go you know unsaid and people get mad at me it's not a perfect movement I don't think there's ever been a perfect movement maybe except for ride season two I'd say so and it isn't not a podcast if you hadn't brought up this is how we do would have been a perfect season I brought that up yeah that was you you made me you made me do that I didn't do that this is our land you were definitely the one percent that one day on set I was occupied in that moment but when you watch the live photo I am the 90 90 exactly and that's important to note so I just think it's been wow such a fabulous season of ride I can't wait to come back May 28th and there's a surprise email your questions about overcompensating to this is ride one at Gmail who knows what we'll do with them I mean we have no idea you know what you are Vinnie hmm your words not mine babe you're my rider die ride or die of course I ride for the OC I couldn't ride harder for this and I feel like it was formative for me and just to have female characters who were complex and written well and just wearing couture and killed and ultimately die it's just like like makes you give it and make you take it the way do not don't make me laugh and love you and your media clip that here's my thing occupy I'm gonna ride till I die for occupy it was Viva La Revolucion it was it was Viva Vita it was Portland it was Luke's dad it was everything and you know what if my family had to eat continent no breakfast at the hotel and it wasn't that good like that's fine because we were fighting for something bigger and I think that's the first time I really saw that so that was really good for a young little football player to see and I definitely influenced the fight to and ask my love occupy we see you and we stand with you and I'm sorry for my feelings towards you in the past well of course little did I know there was a Republican girl out there who's gonna see me more than I'd even seen myself and she was she was nearly ready to leave it all behind of course she just needed it's the Joker the push push I just needed to take one more philosophy class at Boston College and then I was out the door so speaking of the Joker I as we end season two who is the a movable force what is it again when and when a movable hold on when and when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object what is it okay it's when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force so what's the question which one is which of us oh you are a movable object I think I'm an immovable object and the unstoppable force and what happens when they meet they they start a podcast they start a podcast my love we we have a revolutionized television well of course we are so excited for you to see overcompensating we are so excited to be back we're going to be back sooner than we were after season one trust and we're just so freaking excited this season thank you for bearing with us and Mary best detainment in us shooting a television series where they're letting me out to hit the campaign trail they're letting me out for press because they told them as I as I said last week we're going to the swing states and so they they're perfectly happy to do that but they did say I will be coming back so of course it's not I'm not free carte blanche whatever it's like it's temporary but I'm excited to a between now and when we come back for season three and of course we have a little surprise the show will be out you can get and watch it and like tell us how how you feel about it and how we feel all eight episodes and over 227 territories globally it's the only number I've ever memorized prime video watch it stream it watch it with your best friends and let's just say if you're having a watch party in LA you should maybe like DM me to address who knows what we'll do with that we D.P. all these houses we throw beer bottles that grow and we send drones we send a pack of drones to them to see what they're up to on everybody we bring the lesbian cop from ride live oh my god she should drive us around wait if we really do go to people's places we that will cut this we believe that we will they just say dear media one two three flip that best believe I'm still cruel oh my exit any babe eyes on the road there you go ride ride please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast finale marks a celebratory close to Season 2 with a humorous and heartfelt reflection on overcompensating, especially through rewatching *The OC* and its cultural impact.
  2. A major theme is the nostalgic and formative influence of *The OC*, particularly its complex characters, stylish aesthetics, and groundbreaking portrayal of queer identity and youth culture.
  3. The hosts discuss the significance of the Occupy Wall Street movement, sharing personal memories of attending protests in Portland and reflecting on its legacy as a symbol of resistance against economic inequality.
  4. The podcast highlights a deep connection between *The OC* and modern activism, framing both as expressions of youth rebellion, authenticity, and challenging societal norms.
  5. The hosts celebrate their own creative process, using humor and self-deprecating jokes to explore topics like overcompensation, media influence, and personal growth.
  6. They promote various brands and products, including Article, Zok Doc, Quince, and Squarespace, integrating advertising with a casual, conversational tone.
  7. A key emotional thread is the personal journey of self-acceptance, especially through media that reflects real-life experiences and identities.
  8. The finale promises a return for Season 3, with a surprise release and audience engagement, emphasizing community, shared experiences, and continued exploration of identity and activism.

Summary:

The podcast concludes Season 2 with a nostalgic, playful, and deeply personal reflection on media, identity, and activism. Hosts Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Rohn celebrate the cultural impact of *The OC*, highlighting its complex characters, stylish visuals, and groundbreaking representation of LGBTQ+ and youth experiences. They connect this to their own memories of growing up and find resonance in the show’s themes of rebellion, authenticity, and self-discovery.

The discussion expands to include the Occupy Wall Street movement, with personal anecdotes from attending protests in Portland, emphasizing its role as a grassroots resistance against economic inequality. The hosts link these experiences to their own journey of self-acceptance and overcompensation, using humor and self-awareness to explore how media shapes identity. They also promote various brands, blending advertising with genuine conversation about lifestyle, wellness, and community.

The finale ends on a note of excitement for Season 3, promising a surprise release and deeper audience engagement, reinforcing the podcast’s mission to create a shared space for reflection, joy, and activism. Throughout, the tone is warm, irreverent, and emotionally grounded, reflecting both the highs of media fandom and the power of collective action.

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The finale centers on the Occupy Wall Street movement as a symbol of resistance against economic inequality and corporate greed. The hosts connect it to personal and political awakening, highlighting its impact on youth and the power of grassroots activism.

They rewatched 'The OC' because it deeply resonated with them as a formative media experience, especially in terms of complex, well-written female characters and dramatic storytelling that influenced their own creative work.

It refers to the hosts’ tendency to over-explain, over-engage, or over-identify with certain topics, such as media, relationships, or political movements, often as a way of connecting deeply with the audience or expressing passion.

The hosts suggest that both are expressions of youth rebellion and cultural identity—'The OC' through teen drama and rebellion, and 'Occupy Wall Street' through political protest—showing how media and activism shape personal and societal values.

The hosts credit 'The OC' with teaching them how to craft compelling cliffhangers, develop complex characters, and create narrative tension—skills they now apply to their podcast storytelling and structure.

Their experience attending events in Portland during the movement helped them understand the power of community, protest, and youth-driven change, which they now see as a model for cultural and social activism.

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