Obama’s AI Alarm Could Hand China the Advantage | Victor Davis Hanson

During the infancy of the El Sayed candidate, he had a hot mic, he said, "Be careful, I don't think my constituents and dearborn are going to like that we killed the supreme leader of Iran, a terrorist who had just been responsible for butchering 30 to 40,000 of his own people." What El Sayed was saying is, "I have a whole constituency that doesn't integrate or assimilate and feels more affinity with theocratic Iran than the country who welcomed them in." Well, hello ladies and hello gentlemen and welcome to Victor Davis Hansen in his own words on the daily signal network. I'm Jack Fowler, the host. You are here to listen to get wisdom from best-selling author yet again, best-selling author. Victor Davis Hansen, who is the Martin and Elie Anderson senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College, senior contributor at the daily signal where he also has another show called Victor Davis Hansen in a few words. 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On Amazon, well, that's people would kill for that number of Victor or they'd name maybe they kill also so well today, Victor, we are recording on Monday, September 14th. This episode will be up on Thursday, September 17th and we have a bunch of things to get your wisdom on. One is Obama and AI and we're a few weeks, excuse me, two months anyway. Not even two months anymore out from the midterm elections and Obama is becoming front and center of the Democrat party and pushing a position on AI. It's a new issue of strategic, the online journal at Hoover that you oversee and run of a great essay to 9/11 and an era. I'd like to get your take on that JD Vance has some proposal on federal's money for state home moms and Steve Forbes, who's just a terrific conservative and man of into economic heft has a problem with that. Let's go to about this and I'd like to get your take on that and then maybe when we have a little time at the end, Victor, we have some news that the New York high school test for graduation called the Regents, it's been eliminated. No need to take a test anymore as we continue in America to define DVNC downward intellectual DVNC to Victor so all that is so worth your getting Victor's take on it will do that when we return from these initial important messages. With this under attack in our culture, people are embracing lies about gender that rejecting the sanctity of every human life and the government is even punishing people for saying what's true and right. But the biblical principles on which our country was founded, they still matter and they must be defended. This defending freedom is on the front lines of this fight, they're standing in courtrooms across the country upholding truth and your right to speak it, but they rely on help from friends like you to do this work. 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The dangers of AI in this mid level executive come out let's say in January of this year why not February why not March why not April why do they do it in September on the eve of the midterm. Elections to create a false issue suddenly. AI is going to kill us all down Trump is promoting AI so we have to use this against him and we have to do it Democrats and left us always do there's always a global solution got pollution Paris climate Accords got problems with Israel go to the United Nations Commission on civil rights and deal with Iran and North Korea and etc got a problem with American soldiers that are too Connecticut go to the international criminal court got a problem with covid and the lab in China and the creation of a gain in function virus that was manufactured for some unknown. Go to the world health organization how's all that worked out not very well why because international organizations are as strong as their weakest link and there are 175 roughly I'm doing this by memory nations in the world and there's only about 70 to 80 democracies are consensual governments that ensures on all of these bodies you're going to have Russians you're going to have South Africans you're you're going to have Cubans you're going to have Iranians North Koreans and they're going to subvert they're either going to go after Israel or the United States are both so why would you why would you entrust it so the second question is do they have a history of working let's see and it's people got very worried about fascism in Europe they got together and they said we need an international naval treaty to circumvent an inevitable bloody return to world war one so here's what we're going to do in the international naval control chords we're going to say battleships cannot be over 35,000 tons cruisers cannot be over 10,000 tons destroyers etc etc and who abided by it United States yes UK yes fascist Germany no Japan no Italy no they said they did but they all cheated so then after world war two and we had a monopoly on the bomb and people said we need to give the expertise to everybody and how you in control it so they Russia said this was a great idea why don't we do it and then they stole all of the information they needed from New Mexico in four years almost to the day 1949 and August they did what they detonated an atomic bomb and we were off and our attitude from then on but basically even before is deterrence not the trust in the link the weakest link in an international body that has no accountability so we're going to say to the world we don't want you to have nuclear weapons but if you do get them and you try to use them you're going to be destroyed and after world war two we thought well navies are expensive but we're going to ensure that because we are the most responsible country we're going to have the biggest battleships carriers cruisers everything and that's been our attitude so how that applies to AI I think it goes something like this in the mind of Donald Trump and most of the people in Silicon we are going to be the most efficient the strongest and we because we operate in a transparent way parent country with a elected government and a free press. We will be the most scrutinized and we will make sure that it doesn't kill us all. But what we have to learn is that the Chinese and the Russians have no such prohibitions and they will not file follow in international treaties. So we have to tell them if they use this, try to use it against us, we will be much more effective in our counter-response called deterrence. I don't think that the Chinese listen much to the World Health Organization that said China, we've been really disturbed about this. Now we're not saying that this didn't come from a pangolin and a bat. It could, but we're a little bit worried that so-called bat lady hasn't shown up and some of the scientists that identified the virus, there are only rumors died and some are missing. And if it is true that the People's Liberation Army are running the lab, would you please have someone call us and tell us how it started for what reason, what happened to the people who invented it, what was your policy, it would just help us out. That's where we are within international groups. Or the Paris Climate Accord, the British, the French, the Germans, the Dutch, the Italians, they all beat their chest. I'm following a reduction and I'm better than you, I have less fossil fuels. And meanwhile somebody whispers to me, hey, China and India are responsible for 70% of the carbon releases. They're producing three new coal plants a month. India is doing a new one a month. They are the polluter. Yes, but we have a colonial legacy to live down and they have to catch up so they have to pollute the planet for 70% like we did in the industrial evolution 150 years ago. That's how that worked out. So no international body is viable. Until you change the nature of mankind, if mankind was kind and forgiving and transparent, we wouldn't need it. Would we? Well, if you hate America, or if America is not exceptional, or if it says just as exceptional as Greece is exceptional, not to pick on Greece. And not to pick on Barack Obama, you're quoting him. But to pick on him. So then we shouldn't be in charge of if our virtues are the same as communist China or Russia or anyone else. This is this is kind of an ad to with the internet itself, right? Yeah, Barack Obama is America run thing. But let's let any hooligan oversee it. That's not a sufficient policy. But there was I think disdain for America is part and parcel. I think everybody has to remember, I think you do know that all of our listeners, when you use the word globalist or global, it is a synonym for maybe a euphemism for anti-American ism. They're not compatible ideas. One of them says that the sovereignty of the United States should be subordinated to less democratic and more illiberal governments. That is globalism. It's inevitable. And the other nationalism is that well, we don't want to push our weight around, but we do have the best constitution in the world. And we are more likely to follow a humane law than the rest of them are. So one other thing if I may get your opinion on Victor, because so Obama may be on to a little something here is that well, is that disdain people have it. I we've talked about before here in my town, we're fighting these flock cameras and many people are and there's a general. I think it cuts across parties and ideologies that we are living in this surveillance state that everything we do is captured that all our information is being sold. So playing into a fear of AI, I think works into this. Those are two different issues though. One of the issue is privacy and the degree to which certain methodologies from cameras to AI to the internet impune or threaten privacy. The other is that the medium of AI is in a class all by itself because it's the only one that can create in theory spontaneous independent autonomous intelligence. And given the evil in the world, you can program a entity in theory to think and expand on evil ideas at record speed. Cameras can't do that. They won't I don't think yet unless they're AI completely dominated. They won't just sort of say, I'm camera A and I'm going to call up camera B and I want to see Sydney, Swini and the nude. So I'm going to tie Jack a camera across the street and enhance it. And then I'm going to put it on. They can't do that. I just I just think there's a high tech boogie man mood out there. That's true. That's that that feeds into it. That's your point that you're exactly right. Absolutely. Well, Victor, let's take a let's talk about a near beheading in a second. 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Again, attempt to saw off this guy's head would have just passed in our media. As do so many shootings in murderous in Chicago, for example, we don't hear about this. Anyway, thoughts on this badding attempt, Victor? Yeah, I mean, it was, it's, the left sees this as collateral damage. So they have a narrative that white supremacists and white rage hurt black people and the reality is that 49 to 50% of all rapes, assaults, murderers are committed by black males who make up two and a half percent of the population. That is a narrative that they do not want to discuss. They call this collateral damage to the narrative. The narrative is anti-impiracles deductive. It just says this, white people are racist. Therefore, they must kill black people inordinately, even though in rare, in racial crimes, depending on the violent act, it's six to 20 times more common for a black person to hurt a white person. I think in the case of female crime, and please listeners correct me, I'm doing this by a memory, but the data that I had looked at said that that is even more egregious that black, I don't think there was a case last year of a white woman killing a black woman, but the reverse is certainly true. So the second myth is that our immigrants both legal and illegal are more law body, and they always say that they're more law body than Americans are. And that's not true if you look at the data, especially on illegal immigrants, and especially on the recent generations of legal immigrants. And that makes sense, not because of racial differences, but because we are importing people, I say that because they look at it as their home countries, look at it as export for remittances. They're exporting people from some of the most violent places in the world, from the Sudan, from Somalia, from Venezuela, from Central America, some of the most violent places in the world, Mexico, Cartel, and that behavior continues. And we always get back to the same truism, Jack, that if you bring people into the United States, and you don't have confidence that you're going to assimilate, acculturate, and integrate them, and they have no desire to do that. They did not come here to be Americans. They came here to be Syrians or Egyptians or Qataris or Venezuelans or Ugandans or Nigerians with greater prosperity and greater security, security prosperity, and greater freedom. That's all they wanted. They did not want to integrate into the system. And if you do that, then why wouldn't they retain the same characteristics, values, behaviors that made their countries failed states? And they, if therefore, if they do not acculturate and integrate, then they will, and their numbers are large enough, they will make a failed state within the United States. And that's just, that's not racist. It's not culturally chauvinistic. If you look at one million Mexican nationals in Los Angeles County, and they're not integrating or intermarrying and assimilating, then that million people will follow the same patterns of behavior that they did in Mexico which collectively drove them out and they voted with their feet and they said, I don't want to live in Mexico 'cause I don't feel safe. I don't feel I have enough money. I don't think I have freedom. I want to go to the United States. But part of the bargain, what they used to call the brutal bargain was, if you come here, you're gonna be an American or not. It's your choice. If you're not, go back. And we haven't done that and they don't want to. And that's why, you remember right during the infancy of the El Sayyid candidate, he had a hot mic and he was with his handlers and he said, right after the first day of the war on February 28th, he said, well, be careful, I don't think my constituents and dearborn are going to like the news that we killed the supreme leader of Iran. A terrorist leader who had just been responsible for butchering 30 to 40,000 was own people. So what El Sayyid was saying is, I have a whole constituency that doesn't integrate or assimilate and took an American city and took it over and feels more affinity with theocratic Iran than the country who welcomed the man. That's the fact. Some of these documentaries that we've seen the last few days I have, I assume that you have and many of our listeners have on 9/11 shows these clips of taking from, not America from some Arab countries of, of joy in the streets with the news. And now more candies and Cairo. Yeah. And more recently, of course, after October 7th, the dancing and thrill in Gaza over the slaughter of Jews. You see that one is making its rounds. It's one of the sickest things that, I think her name was Shadi Luke and she was a German Israeli and she was one of the first hostages that they sexually abused. They stripped her, they crushed her limbs and she's in the back of that little truck, almost naked and they're pulling out her hair, the corpse and they're driving through Gaza and everybody's trying to get to there to harm her and a young kid comes up and spits on her. I think she was dead at the time that was taken, but her, the picture show her 80% naked, suffering sexual trauma and her limbs are obviously been broken and at angles that are sick. And they, and when you look at the crowd, there's not one, I mean, everybody is in a state of ecstasy. So when I hear that Israel committed genocide, Israel said that they picked out 30,000 Hamas people of maybe the 45 or 50,000 that were killed that were collateral damage, but unless these, and that's, I would just giving one example. It seems like all the people in Gaza after October 7th, if you took a poll, would say 99%, I liked the idea of butchering, dismembering, disfiguring, raping, beheading Jews. Well, you know, let me, let me throw another immigration-y thing quickly here, Victor, I just saw it before we came on. Maybe I said it before, mandami announced that he is now going to sue the Trump administration over the administration's new rule to deny green cards to foreigners who rely on welfare. That used to be a law in most countries. It was a law here you had to have proof of self-sustainability before you could get a visa. So I don't know what he's talking about, a green card. Yeah, well, fleecing the system, tapping into the system, not the opportunity of meritocracy, but the ability to draw a check on the on the taxpayers of the United States is truly, now, everywhere he goes, part of the parcel. Yeah, everybody should remember there's always a cycle with socialism. It, when it comes in on its body of lies, it is initially very successful for the first few months 'cause it promises everybody free stuff. When they threw batista out, people were in the streets praising Fidel. Praising, even Che Guevara, the psychopath they were praising. And it didn't take them more than a year than they started going after, especially the upper middle class, the bourgeoisie. And usually the very wealthy cut a deal with them. But they always go after the bourgeoisie first and then the honeymoon was over when they broke the country. And that's what's gonna happen in New York. Everybody's happy, they're gonna get free stuff, some of the aristocratic rich people said, I can deal with them, I can buy them this, they'll leave me alone. But you watch, month by month by month, he will start at the upper middle class and they will start leaving or they will start voicing their furor at him. And it's already started because that's who he is. It's the, you know, it's the same frog in the scorpion. He can't help it, he's a socialist, that's what socialists do. They have no choice. - You know, sometimes Victor or sometimes upbeat, despair is a sin. And we'll talk about this a little later, there's an article from National Review about are we entering a new age and we talked recently about David Mammott's peace essay on kind of despairing, but it's hard not to despair. We love our country, we love everything it stands for, but significant pockets of it, and those are our major cities like New York. They're just circling the drain. And again, the other day in Providence. So we thought Providence had a whack job mayor when those murders happened at Brown University. Well, he was defeated in a primary by a far greater whack job. So all of our major cities, one by one seems just to be turning into, and I think a lot of that is, that is where we have 53 million people who were not born in the United States, probably 20 million are exemplary legal immigrants, but 30 million of them are illegal, and maybe more. 16, 17% of the population, the majority of those people live in cities. That's why the British government wants to take illegal and legal immigrants from third world countries and take them out of Birmingham, Liverpool and London, 'cause they've already served the purpose. They have got majorities in there that get liberal politicians and labor politicians elected now. They want to take them out in the country and Disturbed what they call oh these quaint little old white people out in their little Shires we're going to screw that up. You would just watch and That's sort of what is the subtext. Why did the cities fall apart? Why did Los Angeles fall apart? One reason is we imported millions of people Who could not support themselves and they became wards of the Democratic Party who Basically has got 45% of the federal budget through you know Distributions to the states and local municipalities for welfare of all sorts education food shelter Legal health and that in ornate goes to people here especially here illegally and they live in cities and they want blue Representation so he say mayor Johnson couldn't possibly be reelected because he's He's a racist. He's he's broke. He has absolutely Bankrupt the finances of Chicago and he has increased the shootings By defunding and masculine the police. He couldn't be elected Well, he has a lot of people who feel that the welfare system is really great They feel that teachers unions and all these people who are not subject to any audit is great. They get a highly paid He's gonna run again. You know, he's gonna win. Yeah, it's gonna win. His work is not Completed he has maybe we can get Lori Lightfoot back Oh gosh, oh my gosh Karen. That's it. She failed. She said she said I didn't Say ask her about all the fires and all the disasters in the streets are not they're just I just remember driving Los Angeles They're put their huge pot everywhere and she said it's not my fault. It's not my fault. I'm only mayor and so Yeah, I mean the thing about another thing about D.I. is that if there's no accountability That's the little secret of D.I. There cannot be accountability because the person is always in a protected Species they're always a victim of a cosmic injustice Generations ago and therefore they're incapable of being culpable and a human Human nature being what it is they understand that and so if you're a D.I. person and you're driving down the road and the cop pulls you over You're gonna a bad mouth the cop and say, you know You basically want another George Floyd incident and the cop will treat you in a way different than he wouldn't somebody else and if you're an official in LA and You want to be water and power director you might get 150,000 and no one's gonna look what you did when you were working for PG&E No one's gonna look at the fact that half the while higher the fire hydrants in the Pacific palisades area don't work Nobody's gonna look at the fact that a reservoir has been dry for months Critical to the safety of that neighborhood because you're a D.I. person and the same thing with a mayor if you phone in the deputy mayor Phone in a death a bomb threat nobody's gonna put you in jail for very long You'll just be back home. You'll have a suspended sentence. Maybe you sent I don't know if you're mayor Yeah, you can go in a junk it to a wedding in Africa right during fire season, but because you're a victim and so Add the number of victims and the victimhood scenarios and you're gonna get an utter disaster in a complex society It can't work on anything other than meritocracy. You can it can withstand or it can accommodate some In competencies you can have the old white and boy network where Seven generations of policemen We're heroic and then finally in our age they they hire their son and their son's a total blank blank Maybe they the society can hire them or you can have a Whole family of billionaires that get their kids into Harvard and one kid is a complete moron and he gets in But those are incidental. They're not essential to the system But when you have blanket thousands of people who are being promoted on without Demonsible skills that are necessary for the job and your society is not a hunter-gatherer society But it's a complex post-industrial you're asking for disaster Yeah, and that's what we have now I'd like to touch on that a little more Victor But first if you're like me you have problems sleeping by the way. I know you do. I do. Yes. I do Your head's at the wrong angle. Yes, you get too hot your mattress. Yes, it feels like it's made of concrete You're sinking into it like it's made of quick sand And that's why I am excited to try out my brand new Ghost bed, which was just delivered I'm gonna set it up and try it out. 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I just wanted you know Carry on a little bit from what you were just talking about Victor and The lack of culpability in government and I know the thought just came to mind It's not very original and it's probably won't be articulate either but the main Ball work against the concept of victims what were our churches because you were you were a sinner and you know Let's just take the Christian churches repent. You know, it means you would you were the sinner. You did something wrong. You're You're culpable and today's official church is my church Roman Catholic church and many of the Mainline Protestant churches their view is that the congregants are our victims That this is why they sin. I don't think they would use the word sin So we have churches that have gone weak and at this time what they're what they're one of their Positive benefits to society, especially American society. I think is to in its own way back up that concept of meritocracy and not create people that think they're victims, but they're part of the problem. We also until a modern age most societies are as based on shame Yeah, not guilt not private guilt shame was a much better correct or or deterrent to bad to bad behavior. I can remember we had in our local little Salma paper There was something equivalent of the crime beat, you know what I mean the look and it was every Thursday This is in the late 50s and early 60s and it had things like Buddy Smith 15 notices a juvenile jack buddy Smith 15 son of mr. John and at least Smith at 4321 pine street Salma was caught in a liquor store in Fresno When the burglar alarm went off and he was summarily arrested and judge Joe Jones have just sentenced him to six months in Fresno County, juvenile hall And then when you saw the Smiths, people, and this is what progressiveism and modernism said was antiquated and medieval. And therefore, we had to get rid of shame culture. They said something like, well, Mrs. Smith, I was very shocked to see that your son was caught in a liquor store trying to steal things when he was only 15. Or if they weren't that explicit, they would say to you, I don't want you going in a car with a Smith boy. I just don't want you to be there, Victor. So don't think if you're going to go to a party and that boy is in that car, I don't want you. And now modern society said, oh, that's real by association. That's like medieval England and everything. It's just a puritanical shame. I'm not going to have that psychothorne scarlet letter. It's horrible, but it would serve as a deterrent, you know what I mean? So I embarrassed the family. It I did. And the same thing is, and that's what the sexual liberation feminist movement was. I can tell you in high school, there was a girl. I won't mention anything about her 'cause she's probably still alive. I haven't kept, but let's just call her honey, honey bungee. She was a good name for the story. Yeah, she was very beautiful. She was the year ahead of me in high school. And she disappeared. And I don't know where she went. And then all of a sudden said, Victor, have you heard about honey bungee? No, I haven't actually. She went to Florida. Oh, why is her family moving? No, she went to have the A word. What is the A word? Abortion. Oh my gosh. Is it legal there? No, but they do it there. Can you imagine that? She got pregnant. Well, that was a fear of everybody. Not just because it was, there wasn't abortion allowed. I know that our feminist listeners are going to say, well, do you want a back alley abortion? I said, I do not want a back alley abortion. But Bill Clinton wasn't sincere when he said that he wanted abortion to be legal. Rare, legal and rare, safe, legal and rare. So when you don't have that deterrent of shame, then I came back from my first semester. Every student comes home from college and terrifies their parents at Thanksgiving. But I don't think I did. But I remember I had an uncle at Thanksgiving and said, well, what's going on there at UC Santa Cruz? I said, it's pretty wild. He goes, what do you mean? I said, I don't even know what's happening. They're fornicating in the shower and everybody. And then my dad looks at me. Will you better be careful, young man? Because that's a good way to get a girl pregnant and get in big trouble. So just you better be careful. Just watch yourself. You don't have to participate in that type of stuff. And my dad was no puritan. But the point was, it was a shame, you know what I mean? To do that. Sure. And I know that was a restrictive judgmental puritanical. We heard all of that in the '60s. But you have to look at the results and ask yourself were the streets cleaner, were people nicer, were there fewer people aborted, et cetera, in 1960 or '19, I don't know, 2015. What was the trajectory of the leftist? Let it all hang out, tune in, drop out culture, and the destruction of shame. Have you ever certainly-- I'll just finish. Have you ever heard this phrase anymore? Have you no shame? No. I don't hear it anymore. Yeah. What was that in? How-- I got to go, but-- It was that famous in the-- Mr. Welch was a legal counsel on Joe McCarthy. Oh, yeah, right. I had the name-- Have you-- about the army? He was the army legal counsel, and he became famous. But have you heard shame on you? I haven't. No, no, shame has disappeared. Let's pray for its return. Well, Victor, we're going to return after these messages. And when we do two things I'd like to bring up. One is the new issue of strategic and then the second and final piece we have time will be this very interesting article on September 11th, did it? And an era of American optimism and confidence. We'll do all that when we return from these messages. 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Recording on Monday the 14th of September, this episode will be up on Thursday the 17th. And then will be followed, boom, boom, with two Victor shows with a great Sammy Wink. Victor, the new strategic issue number 107, published by the Hoover Institution and the Israeli essay by Admiral James O. Ellis a ships a fool to fight a fort. Choke points, coastal firepower, and the new contest for the maritime commons, which is all very important as we look at the choke point of the Straits of Hormuz. So what is maritime power in this day where these choke points can really be choking? Yeah, well, we had two really distinguished admirals. Gary Ruff had Chief of Naval Operations. And James O. Ellis, who was the Admiral of the Sixth Fleet. So they have dealt their entire lives with choke points and water choke points. The entry into the Mediterranean. The entry into the Black Sea at the Bosphorus. The entry into the Indian Ocean through the Suez Canal. They're very rare in the West, as Gary Ruff had, I think, as I remember the article said. But we did have one key one at the Panama Canal. And maybe just maybe if the Northwest Passage might open up again. I think there's 10 or 15 ships that can make it through already under the Arctic ice cap, above Canada. And by the way, Canada claims complete sovereignty over the entire passage. But it has only 30 ships to enforce that grandiose claim. And there is the South China Sea straight. There's a straight there, et cetera, et cetera. So somebody has to control them. Or they become the property of countries that may not be cosmopolitan or ecumenical or whatever term, as we see with the Straits of Hormuz. And now the danger is, as General Ellis and Wolf had met, note that the traditional navy apparatus that would intercept a ship or fire a shell across their bow or launch a plane that's still effective. But it's very expensive. And there's only one country that can do that. And that's us with 11 carrier groups. But in the ages of cheap missiles and cheap drones, it's going to be a lot more problematic how to control those Straits. I think Gordon Chang had the third essays I remember. And he suggested that choke points may can be changed by changing patterns and geo-trade, et cetera. And we're already seeing that where the pre-war 20 million barrels that went out of the Straits of Hormuz-- I think we're getting 9 million barrels out of the Gulf. But I think until this recent attack on Saudi Arabia, 4 million or 5 million, we're going out to the Red Sea or the Gulf of Oman outside the Straits through pipelines. And so there are ways to pipeline your way out or find other methods of oil. Trump's theory is I can make the choke points, which really are talking about a couple of things. Basically, it is oil, a choke point, and food. Because those are vitals, computer iPhones, importer export-- you can get by for a while. But you can shut down a country quickly without food or oil. And we're very fortunate in the Western hemisphere, because, really, You can't shut down the United States. It has one ocean on one side, one on the other. And even if you were to temporarily stop the Panama Canal, the economies of the West Coast and the East Coast are autonomous. They produce enough energy and food in both areas that they could sustain that type of attack. But China is, you know, when you look at its control, when it's Belt and Road Initiative, and it offers the Greeks that they'll rebuild the Pyreas, or they're going to rebuild the harbor at Naples, or the harbor at Haifa, they feel that those are dual use. So they have created cargo ships that look like container ships, and the containers will have missiles or military weaponry in them. So in times of a war, theoretically, according to their doctrine, they may have five or six hundred quote-unquote container ships docked at Suez, docked at the Panama Canal, docked at the Gate to the Mediterranean, the Gate to the Black Sea, docked at the Pyreas, docked at the big port on the English Channel, or the entrance into the Baltic seas. And they could blow them up or use them to control those entry and exits in a time of conflict. So it's pretty, it was about, it's mostly maritime, but they're good essays by people who've actually commanded fleets and ships at these choke points. Again, mostly in Europe or Asia more than here. You know, Victor, I mean to ask, and you've, of course, you're not going to tell me if it's secret, but the military working group that you oversee at Hoover, is it having, do you have something coming up in the fall? We do, and yeah, on October 9th, we're having our annual military history working group colloquium. And we invite the membership, which are about 35 people. And then they have to write a paper to participate that we use during, when these issues come out, I pick the issue every time, and I pick what they're going to write about so we can use those essays as many commentary. So almost every one of these articles will have, I think we've used them up from last year, but for the upcoming year, we'll have three or four auxiliary essays, short as commentaries on the large essay and lieu of comments from the group. And then we have about 30 observers and donors. So we have, I should say, we have more like 90 told people. And we would love to say what the topic will be. There is a one major topic, yes. If you can't, you can't. Yeah, I don't like to talk about it so much. Oh, then don't. Only because we have these rules. Right. How do I say this diplomatically? But we have a number of people in government, in the military, a number of people at university programs with contracts, with a Pentagon, a number of people who are very controversial, that don't want to be quoted. So the rules are that we don't broadcast what we're doing until everybody will know what it was about because the essays will come out in strategic, but I don't like to do it beforehand because what happens is I did it one year. And the next thing I knew, I had like 400 people contact me. Oh, you're having an open meeting. And this is a topic. And my cousin was in the army. He's, and I got swamped. Yeah. And so we don't let, we, in order for people to talk candidly and say things like, well, when I was under Secretary of State, during the Suez, my grandfather told me that the Suez, he was under Secretary of State. And this is what the scoop was on the Suez. And another person says, well, you know, I was there during the Farclins War and everybody got it wrong. This is what really happened. Well, you don't want to, they don't want to be quoted. And they don't, they don't even want to, a lot of people don't even want to know they were there. Not that it's secretive at all. But and then when I set up the program, I said to myself, I, and I'll be, I have no problem telling who's people who's there. But I wanted the best military historians in the world. So Andrew Roberts or Neil Ferguson. And then I wanted top line generals or admirals. So we have these two here that were the top in the Navy and their time. HR McMaster or Jim Mattis. And then I want the top analyst, military analyst. So Michael Doran or Ed Lutewack or we had the late Angela Codavillo. So we try our Ralph Peters, people like that. And then we try to get some public intellectual that are, you know, like Roger Kimball or somebody. And it's a very, and I don't have a ideological litmus test. So they're all, they're all across the political spectrum. So we have very lively, I can tell you one anecdote. I've been doing it for almost 15 years, I think. And I've only had one controversial meeting in which one, the person, one person gave a paper and said that the US Army should be ashamed of itself because it doesn't teach to sit at ease and military history and all this. And then three other people, all who had been in the military and in a combat role said, I resent you attacking the military that way. And then the other person said, you don't understand. I was tacking the way that it teaches. The other person says, why don't you get, why don't you join the military for a change and go out and feel? And then, and it got really acrimonious. And at that moment, John Raisin, the then director of the institute, walked in for the first and only time for a live session. And so during the break, he said, Victor? You know, I was just thinking, what did you just drop by my office in 60 seconds? I said, okay. And he said, what the blank is going on there? Come on. What are you doing? This isn't free for all. Come on. There's no, I said, we're always sober, judicious, but it's, I got a lot of lively people. He said, you got some wild men there. Why are you doing this? And then about the next couple of years, he really liked it. And I think it was kind of, he really wasn't that angry, but it got really wild. And you don't want, you don't want Hoover being thought of as a Luka Libre intellectual. No, and I said to him, said, what was that all about? I said, subject A had reviewed negatively subject B, C and D's books. Subject B, C, B, C and D had replied to subject A in a very cruel manner in print. So it goes way back. So that's sort of, I like it. And so what I do is I, I, I, I have a wonderful assistant Megan ring that you know. Oh, she's the best. And from A to Z, she comes up with things like Victor, we need a cappuccino baller. We can, we can afford it. So everybody can get out during a break and get something good to drink. And they can't, they can't get ubers from the hotel to Stanford. We have to get, we have to have our own shuttle service. Yes. And we have to have on Fridays so they can go to Napa for the weekend or the wine country. So, and we have to give them good this and that. And then David Burkey, my other assistant, it's very good. And he helps with the outlining the biographies, the invitations, the who's invited, etc. So I've got a very excellent team. And we have a new member Morgan, as well. She's wonderful. Yeah. More, more than 100. Well, let's wrap up today, Victor, but with this final topic and it's from an essay in recently published by National Review by Joshua Trevino. And I must say, I've never, I don't know who Joshua Trevino is, but I found it very engaging. Do you know? I know of him. Yes. Oh, okay. Well, it's titled September 11th ended in era of American optimism and confidence. And if you just bear with me a sec, let me just read this passage from it. He wrote, given how these things work, the last Civil War veteran died in the 1950s and the last First War war veteran in the 2010s, the remembered agony of 9/11 should exit our national consciousness sometime in the 2090s. That is a long time for us to live with it. Yet lives were not the only thing lost that day. The morning of September 11th was the final bright hours of the American bell epic. The golden era that began with our victory over the Soviet Union and ended with our defeat at the hands of Al-Qaeda. Those 12 bright years went too swiftly. And we're too prosperous and too successful for Americans, afflicting us with the victory disease that has crippled our strategic thought and self-assessment since. of a certain age, don't remember what it was like to be optimistic by default, to be confident that their nation was the strongest on earth, to feel essentially invulnerable to history, to assume an upward trajectory for themselves and their country, and to live in a comparatively high-trust society. We had all this, and it ended on that bright blue day of death. Victor, does he have a point there? No, he doesn't. The point of the reaction to 9/11 was to ensure that they never ever had a terrorist attack at that magnitude. For all the misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan, they never did. And as we speak today, Al-Qaeda is still scattered as his ISIS, and the biggest threat actually are on a simulated immigrants from the Middle East in Europe and the United States. In my view, not actual terrorist codrays, and as I look at the Middle East, I see no Russian or Chinese presence in the Middle East. They've lost Syria, they've lost Iran. I think Iran is on the ropes. It's about ready to implode. Nobody could imagine that on 9/11. Israel's the more dom- has never had a more dominant position. The entities at Hezbollah, of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis, which are three big terrorist groups, are in disarray. I think that the Abraham Accords, if Iran falls, will have a renewed second start. If you look at GDP on 9/11, Europe and the United States were about equal jack. And now we have 30%, 35%, greater economy than Europe does, and we also have 35% greater economy than China does. On 9/11, the United States was importing about half of its oil, and it got up to, remember, $50 or $60, or in today's dollars, about $1.30, a barrel, $130. Nobody then thought we would be self-sufficient. We were at 9/11, people were very worried we were in decline before 9/11, and yet when you look at companies, as I've said before, one to 10 rankings of world companies and corporations on market capitalization or UCG or supply sales, whatever term you use for software, digital media, AI, satellite launching, space exploration, biotech. The United States is ahead with eight to nine companies in every category. What changed, I think Josh Tribino was right when he got into we're less spirited, we're less united, and if I would add something very quickly, if you look at labor participation rate and home ownership, which I think are way too low, but they're almost the same of 62 to 65%, either one of them, as they were then, as now. What has changed, and I'll be partisan here, is the Obama administration. Up until Obama, you could argue that we were dealing historically with a black, white dichotomy because of the evil nature of slavery and Jim Crow and the South, and we were dealing with it. We had spent already, then, my about $15 trillion on the great society. We knew what affirmative action was. Obama came in and he tipped off his agenda. We are going to fundamentally translate. We are five days away from fundamentally transforming this country. All of a sudden, we heard a President of the United States say that we're not exceptional, any more than Greece or Britain. All of a sudden, we were told that diversity, equity and inclusion meant that if you're not white, you're a victim. So the old 1288 binary black white became 3670, or 3367, and that meant no class. Before Obama, I had a neighbor who came and said to me, "I don't think it's fair as an Indian American. I don't qualify for affirmative action." And I said, "You're a multi-millionaire." And he said, "Yes, but I'm darker than most Hispanics and most blacks." Maybe not most blacks, but he had a point. After 9/11, after the Obama administration, he came over and we discussed college admissions and he was very happy that he was diverse now, even though he was a multi-millionaire. So class disappeared and your superficial appearance was all that mattered. And we got under Obama things that were aberrant, aberrant beyond the pale, like the old black panthers in Antifa, BLM. All of that was mainstream suddenly. Suddenly you had rappers in the White House like Lamar, what's his name? And he had, you know, Pimpa Butterfly and talk about, one of the lyrics was "Killing the Police," one of the rapper's ankle bracelet went off. All of a sudden you were, you didn't think that the President of the United States's first interest was American preeminence. We weren't going to be superior. And race became everywhere. It started with Michelle, downright, me, and country. Never been proud until Obama was, never been proud of my country too much. They always raised the bar, or Obama. My grandmother was a typical white person. Trevon looked like the boy I never had. It was constant. And he racialized the country and reopened a lot of wounds that were healed. And then in addition to that, he tried with his national health care, he tried to have a, and then he did not, we would have recovered from 2008 naturally. If he hadn't injected all this money and taken a neo-socialist approach to the economy. And then more importantly, he, more importantly, he was the one that really weaponized the government. So all of a sudden Eric Kolder said, I'm my, and they set the press. And Eric Kolder was the first attorney general to defy a congressional subpoena. Eric Kolder said, I'm the president's wingman. The AP journalists were surveilled. James Rosen's grandmothers and phone records were subpoenaed. That started that whole stuff. And it was race, race, race, and ideology, ideology. And we, he moved the country fundamentally to the left. And that, that earned him the Trump first term and the Trump. And Biden tried to go even further. But I see what Josh Trevino is talking about, but I don't, I don't attribute those symptoms to 9/11. I attribute them to the Obama. Now you can make the argument that Obama may have been elected after 9/11 and the chaos of the Iraq war. And we were guilty. And we wanted, we didn't like George Bush because of the Iraq war. But I see him changing the nature of this country. And we've never quite been the same. I totally, totally agree with that. I don't think he gets proper credit for the damage that he did to this country. Maybe still still trying. Yes. And you can, you could see him the arrogance of, he also Clinton started it, Hillary and everything. The idea that a Democrat would be the wealthiest people in the United States and the most inquisitive. But Obama, he was worse because he said he was a community organizer and he always attacked wealthy white people and called people selfish. And then he would say, you didn't build that, took that from Elizabeth Warren, spread the well. And then as soon as he got out of office, he bought a Martha's Vineyard estate, a big estate in Washington, DC, Colorado State. He kept his big house in Chicago. Then he built a fourth mansion on the beach in Hawaii. And, and then he flew private and he would jet in from his jet and start lecturing people about their moral inadequacies or their political naivete. He was not a humble person. He all summed it up when he said, I'd like to stay in my basement and have a third term by phoning it in without having to wear a tie. And that's exactly what happened with Biden. The Obama, the Obamac people were their surrogates and they had the socialist third term they always wanted without culpability or responsibly for the damage they did. Sorry for the rant, but I think there's B-O-N-A-O before Obama and after Obama. I'm going to suggest a book to the great Rob Bluey, the rants of Victor Davis Hanson and it will be, but that will be a best seller, right? If you need to transcribe them. Well, Victor, we've come almost to the end of the show today. Have a couple of comments to read as ever. You know, we have, by the way, something's gone on. We have a tremendous influx of new viewers. So we do. So welcome all of you who do that. If you want to get more Victor, I mentioned his website, the blade of purchase, Victor Hanson.com. If you're on X at VD Hanson, VDH's Morning Cup on Facebook, Victor Avis Hanson Fan Club, which is not affiliated in any official way, but good people. That's also on Facebook. We've got a lot of comments on various platforms. And I'm going to read three comments here. One is from Laura S7307 who writes, "I cannot put into words at times what a voice of a generation you are. When we no longer have you or Thomas Seoul as strong American value speakers, things will not be the same." I guess that means Victor, you better stay alive for a long time. Then we have one from-- I'll know. I have another blood biopsy in 30, 40 days. Well, keep the prayers coming. Flying Tigers, 37, 37, 47 writes since we talked to today, but you talked to Sammy at length the other day about 9/11. I was at the World Trade Center, South Tower in 9/11, and had a good friend die. Afterwards, they identified him by his pants and ATM card. Nothing else was left, RIP. I believe there's still over a thousand people who have yet to be accounted for. Yeah, so they've been saying they were incinerated. And finally, Smokey Dawn, 94/32 writes, "Sounds like the professor took the gloves off and went bare knuckles on the foolishness today." That's related to Canada. The Best Friday news show he's ever done. A good dose of the truth today. The people of this country, the real ones who are self-aware can see how things are going. The ones who don't pay attention will be surprised when they look up and see that they live in the CCP. The ones who watch this show may not be able to stop it, but we won't be surprised. I think we'll go down fighting Smokey Dawn. That's a funny thing. I had a very strange thing happen. I didn't think I said anything unique or original or inflammatory about our Canada America, but we did our show, and then I did three little of my, not little, but eight to ten minutes on aspects. I was told they got 900,000, one million. They were the largest I'd ever done. I wrote an article that comes out tomorrow on it, but I, maybe it's because I think a lot of Canadians didn't get the true story, and they are worried because they like Americans, and this globalist who had three passports prior to be Prime Minister won't release the transcript and won't allow his age to explain what they were told at the eleventh hour to cancel the talks with the Americans, and why they haven't asked to re-inert them, and why they've entered into a travel, educational, trade, and military relationship with the biggest violator of trade in history, China, and also the descendant of the greatest mass murderer, Mao, as almost a quasi ally or a foil to the United States, and why they have been told lies that because the United States imports 15%, maybe 10% to 15% of its goods from Canada, that it's vulnerable, and it's going to really hurt when they have 75% of their exports to the United States, and they have, it's very sad, they only have one-ninth of our population, and one-twelfth to one-thirteenth of our economy, and their GDP by per capita indices is 1.1, it's the lowest in the Western world, and they haven't really, maybe one year doing the creative bookkeeping, have kept their promises to spend 2%, and just the other day, just today, Jack, we've talked twice now about euthanasia, 5.2% of all deaths in Canada, it's a world high, they kill, they help people kill themselves, or they aid in the killing, more than any other country on a percentage basis of their annual debt. There's an article today, did you see it? About a woman's 62 that had mental health problems, and her daughter wasn't in contact as much, and they talked, and she felt she couldn't go on. She had no physical liabilities, or no physical, but she was acting erratically because she'd been in a car accident and had a concussion, and this had been going on for years, but it was sustainable, but they talked her into assisted suicide, and what was creepy about it, once they do that, it's streamlined, it's hard, and the daughter couldn't stop it, so she killed herself, and so something's going wrong with Canada, that's what I was trying, it's not the Canada that we all love, and it's not the Canada that Canadians all love, because there's 45% of the people were not born there, or their parents weren't born there, and they come from failed states for the most part, and they need money to feed and house and give them education, and all the accoutrements of a compassionate middle-class society, and they don't have the money, because they're a socialist economy, and they've only got one proto-capitalist province that's naturally rich, and that's Alberta, and they make it very hard for the people of Alberta to prosper, because they're socialist. And one of the ways they've solved that they square that circle, they look at Big Brother over on the south, and they said they can afford it, those rowdy crafts, I'm not saying they, I mean their government, those illiberal cowboy uncouth people, I don't know what they do, but they sure make a lot of money, and we're going to run up a $50 billion surplus, and we're not going to meet our defense needs, and we'll see, and then we'll have enough money to pay for our enormous social welfare liabilities, and then it worked, and then a guy called Donald Trump came in town, and said, "known hit porkers, not this pig, we're not doing it anymore, I'm sorry, it's not good for you, and it's not good for us, this is called tough love. If you don't have those big subsidies, and you have to defend yourself, and you have equitable trade, then you will make good use of your treasure house of natural resources." And they hate him, they hate him, because of his trolling, I don't know if this is going to make sense, but this is our essentially sense of it's our brother, right, a friendly brother, a little brother, we love them, we love Starrick, Strange Brew, we love John Candy, all this, so we can cross the border, they can cross our border, Niagara Falls, it's all this kind of stuff that's generally positive, and now I think some of us, why are the big numbers, maybe not a whole Canadian coming to victory, I think it would be a lot of Americans, so they are. We have been, this treachery, our brother has, they don't know they're afraid of, they don't know the American character, the American character is very magnanimous, but then when you're done with it, so for six weeks, this globalist carny has whipped up the people for the elections in Alberta and Quebec, and our midterms, he's interfering in, and he wants them to dislike America, and they've really taken the hook and they've swallowed the bait, and they are booing us at athletic events when that star-spangled banner, they have little cute little signs of the border insulting us, you name it, they're boycotting some of our products and being very loud about it, and they don't understand what this guy has done to them. One million of you Canadians live in the United States, you're the only people in the world that get six months of visa without any visa-free. You come in, we don't even track you for six months, no other people, maybe a permuta, but no, that not Mexico, not British, not the French, nobody, and you can work for six months. We go down there and it's very hard to get a work permit if you're on a visa in Canada, and there's only 250,000 of us in Canada, you've got a million here, and the guy who's whipping this all up, this anti-Americanism, went to college in America, his two kids went to college, his two kids live in America right now, 90 over 90 percent of his money is invested in America, and he's putting your job at risk to whip up this anti-Americanism where he just put a news blackout, he won't tell you why he walked out, he won't tell you the exact reason why we said no when he wanted to import cheap aluminum and steel below the cost of production from Communist China to get around our tariffs and help the Chinese, he won't tell you that that 5% surcharge to supposedly preserve Canada's culture and its French language is the only one in the world. We don't charge you 5% because you're not nice to people from Fresno. Hey, I'm from Fresno. And there's no San Joaquin Valley representation in the National Post or BBC and CBC and I read that. You Canadians, if you're gonna have any of your media in this country, I want you to pay 5% to protect Victor's unique culture and Salmon Fresno. You like that or is that absurd? So we're done and I don't think they understand that. I feel so bad, I've been watching these Canadians, have you seen these professors and they're the nicest people in the world and they get on there and they say, well, I don't wanna say this, but I've looked at all the data of our economic performance and we don't invest money in our workers and we're only, they're per capita GDP is $40,000 more per person in the United States and we can't win this and will everybody be sad if I tell you the truth that I kinda see what the Americans, I kinda see their point, we walked out and we won't tell us anybody why we walked out. So why doesn't you just let us see what the Americans offered in the full context and they're apologetic but they're saying that hey everybody, you're in a car and you're going 90 miles an hour over a cliff and you think you're gonna hurt the Americans by crashing and burning your car at the bottom of the mountain. Well, I'm gonna suggest a special episode with you and Conrad Black. So we could have a fuller of. I've always admired Conrad Black. He's a beautiful writer and he's got a beautiful history of the world that he's releasing, I've read a lot of it and he's as pro-Canadian as anybody and he is pointing out to the Canadians. There's a good chance that Mr. Carney will not disclose the full negotiations if he doesn't disclose it and if this continues and if it wrecks the Canadian economy which it will, he will go down infamously in Canadian history. So please Mr. Carney, it's a very. He writes this often and I agree with him. Yeah, well, all right Victor, that was a rant about a rant. So we love him, the more the merrier. Okay, thanks for all the wisdom you share. Thanks folks for watching and listening. Thanks folks to go to civilthoughts.com and sign up for the free weekly or weekly email. There's a right right for the Center for Civil Society. We're gonna like it, 14 recommended readings. That's enough, Jack, shut up. We'll be back soon with another episode of Victor Davis Hanson in his own words, bye-bye. Thank you for viewing and listening, and everybody see you next time. Thank you for tuning in to the Daily Signal. Please like, share and subscribe to be notified for more content like this. You can also check out my own website at victorhanson.com and subscribe for exclusive features in addition.