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198: Not A Kid Anymore (feat. Grayson Chrisley)

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198: Not A Kid Anymore (feat. Grayson Chrisley)

Grayson, nearing 20, reflects on the transition from adolescence to adulthood, noting that the milestone feels surreal and unremarkable compared to the significance of age 21. A passionate student at the University of Alabama, he majors in sports management and dreams of becoming a sports agent, ideally representing Alabama athletes. He critically examines the NIL system, calling it exploitative and advocating for salary caps and fair revenue sharing to protect young athletes. The episode also reveals a personal financial struggle involving credit card misuse and family money management, with Grayson admitting to being manipulated into covering expenses. He highlights the emotional evolution in sibling relationships, especially after his parents' return, emphasizing patience and understanding over control. Grayson openly shares his discomfort with public scrutiny, yet finds strength in loyalty and deep, long-standing friendships. He values authenticity over appearances, criticizing overly performative churches and questioning their relevance. Ultimately, he expresses uncertainty about his future, believing a surprise opportunity may arise, and envisions a life in Texas or Florida centered on golf, work, and connection. The conversation underscores themes of growth, responsibility, and the evolving nature of family beyond blood ties.

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Welcome back to Unlocked, and today is going to be a little bit of a different kind of episode, because today my baby brother Grayson is sitting across from me and he is about to turn 20 in five days. I know. I'm getting old. It's it's crazy. I mean, for everyone that's watched our show, Chris Lino's Best, you've been with us since the beginning. Grayson was, how old were you when we started? 66. That's insane. Grayson was six years old, and he is about to turn 20, which is absolutely insane. You're not a kid anymore. No, I'm not a teenager. No, you are at the University of Alabama, and you have done a really good job. You've made it on the Dean's List. You are semi-trying, semi-trying, and the reason I say that is because I know my brother, and I know what he's capable of. He's doing a fantastic job, but dad informed me that you were only taking two classes next semester? No, he's got it completely wrong. That's not what I told him. I told him I have class two days next semester, because they're loaded up. I have like three classes on each day. Okay. Well, he told me you were taking two classes, and I was like, why do you think that's okay? I was like, he wouldn't even be like a part-time student, I don't think. No, I'm in way more than two classes. I just have class two days a week. Okay. See, that's the brother I know. See, Todd doesn't know what he's talking about. I literally said that in the text, I said, I have class two days a week. Not I'm taking two classes. Okay, gotcha. So, where are you? What year will you be going into? I guess, junior. Your junior year? Or are you behind? I don't know. I really don't know. I guess I'm a junior. I don't know. I'll just keep going as long as dad pays. We're not turning this into a five-year plan. I don't know. I'm really not even, I'm really not even like on track for a five-year plan. I did come in like the second semester of the freshman year. No, you didn't. You went in in August. No, I didn't. I went in in January. Did you? Yeah, because we fought that whole time about you not wanting me to go in January. And I went in January and that was the second semester of that freshman year. You're right. So, you'll be graduating in like that middle time. Yeah. Oh, okay. Wow. But I kind of want to push it out just so I have like the regular graduation. Because those middle ones are weird. It's not the same thing. I mean, that's true. That's true. I mean, I could maybe hop on board with that. But I also feel like you're going to be excited to like go into the real world into your profession. No. No, I love it there. Okay. I would go as long as they have me. Oh, that's great. Well, University of Alabama, please don't have him pass for years. Maybe five. Four years. No. Possibly. No more, please. If I think we have a good shot at national championship, it'll be five. Oh, my gosh. Like policy won. Well, as we start this episode, full disclosure, I am going to expose Grayson a little bit. There's a credit card situation that we have to talk about. There's also some other questions about, you know, what kind of guardian I was actually for him during the prison years. And I feel like there is a side of him that y'all haven't heard on any of the other family podcasts because he hasn't, you know, he's just more open with me. He's funny on the others. So, Grayson, we are in the last days of you being 19. Last days of you being a teenager. What does it feel like knowing you're about to be 20 years old? It feels weird. Like, you don't really have the excuse of, I'm a teenager. Well, I know. It feels really weird. What's the weirdest part about it? It's just crazy. It's like, 19 wasn't like a big one. No. But 20, I'm like, damn. Well, yeah, because really after 21, no birthday really matters. Yeah. I mean, unless you're me, I love my birthday. Yes. I love like a trip or fun things. What would you say, first off, would you say that you are the same kid now? Then you were like the kid who started college. No. What would you say? I don't think so. What would you say are some differences? I don't know. I feel like you just change over time. Like, especially with like, I mean, I went to college with mom and dad still in there. And obviously when they came out, that changes you. Yeah. So, I would say them that way. What would, what would you say is something that you want to leave behind in your teenage years? I don't know. I don't feel like, like, I don't think there's anything I really want to leave behind. I think when I just did a podcast with mom and dad and they were kind of talking, mom was saying how things are a little different with you. Because, you know, whenever they left Chase and I are obviously adults doing our thing, you were 16 and then they come back and you're in college and mom did everything for you. Versus when they left, it really reached a point where I was like, you got to figure it out. Yeah. Like, you going to the bank by yourself, do it just even things as simple as that. So, it is very different. Do you think, do you think it's been harder for you and your relationship with them that it has been for like me and my relationship with them since I've come home? I think it has been harder just like in a way like with me going back and forth to Tuscaloosa like. I get it like people want me to be home, but also like I have relationships that I've got to like maintain and like I'm not going to go three months without seeing certain people and like stuff like that and mom and dad are like, why are you going back? And I'm like, well, I'm not, I'm not like going to go three months without seeing these people like I've got, I've got to go back. And I feel like sometimes they don't really understand it, but. Yeah. Well, I also think to it's hard, right? Because in our mind, we miss you, especially for them, I think, you know, go into it a half years. They want you to be home as much as possible, but in a way, you're kind of navigating your own life, building your own life, your own people. Well, in a way, Tuscaloosa right now is home. Yeah. Like when you spend every day in a routine, doing your own thing down there and then you come home and you're like, what am I supposed to do? Yeah. I don't know what to do. Yeah. And that's why I like it because I have my own routine. I can do what I want. I hang out with people. I'm always doing something. I come home and I'm not doing anything. And I'm like, yeah, bored. Well, hey, when you come home this summer, we'll be doing a lot of fun things and we'll go fun places. I really want to go on some golf trips. I just think we'll go on some golf trips. It'll be fun. So we've touched on your birthday, obviously. You're about to be 20. And now I kind of want to touch on, you know, some things what I got right versus what I got wrong. So when mom and dad went away, you were 16. I was 25. I had to step in. I mean, that just was the situation. But when I look back now, I question, you know, but like what did I do right? What did I do wrong? So when did you stop seeing me as your sister and start seeing me as the person that was in charge? I think it took a little bit. It definitely took a little bit, except first I was like, obviously like not in a mean way, but like you're not my mom. Yeah, you and Chloe both. That was a hard thing. I looked at it as more of like, you're advising me instead of telling me what to do. Yeah. And then when I had to get used to like, no, she's telling me what to do. That was harder. Yeah. What would you say I got right during that time? I think you got most of it right. But I feel like there was some things. I feel like a little bit you expected me to adapt faster than I was going to. And I think that caused us to fight more. Yeah. So I think that goes into the, you know, what I got wrong. I think I definitely looked at it from the perspective. Now I can say looking back like, hey, I'm in this way to you. We're all going through this. You have to it, you know, I'm going through this. And I'm adapting. You need to as well. But it's the same time you were 16. I think it all happens differently. Yeah. It does. It all happens differently. And that's where. That's where I kind of dropped the ball and thinking everyone was supposed to be on my time frame of like, well, I'm doing this. So you should be doing this. Was there a moment in that time period that you really just didn't like me? You pissed me off a few times. Is there anything that sticks out? No, I don't. There's nothing that sticks out. There are certain things that you'd say. Like what? I'm trying to think. Well, it was where we argued a lot was the times when we would go see mom and dad. Yeah. Because sometimes like don't get me wrong. I wanted to see him, but also I was tired of spending every weekend. Like I didn't want to spend every weekend. I wanted to do stuff. And I feel like that's where we would get into it a lot. It's like I don't want to go this weekend and you're like you have to. Yeah, that is very true. I think because in my mind I was like hey, they've sacrificed their entire lives for us. The least we can do a show up for them. But that's not realistic. I mean, y'all are in school all week. And on the weekend, you're visiting a prison. I had baseball. So the free weekends I had, we were going to visit. Yeah. And I was like I just won't one weekend of not doing anything. Yeah. But it was, we don't have a tournament this weekend. All right, we're going to see mom or dad. Yeah. Visit GoodGirlRx.com and use code Unlocked15 to get 15% off at checkout. Medical care is provided by licensed physicians. Not all patients qualify. 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Everyone's journey is different, results vary, and not everyone qualifies. But access to real medical guidance can be life changing. What advice would, or what's one thing you would tell older siblings who do have to step in and be the guardians? What's something you would tell them not to do? I would just say give people time. Don't rush them. Nobody's going to move at the same pace as someone else. You just got to give them time. That is very true. That's hard for me. I'm doing it, so you should be able to do it too. That's where I get a little tough and that's something I need to work on. Obviously, I can say things I need to work on. But what would you say? I want to talk about what people get wrong about me. You can defend me, you can roast me, it doesn't matter. You see me obviously when the cameras are off. The internet sees the versions that I post. What do people get the most wrong about me that you think? It pisses me off when I see comments. They're like, "Fantants be in a bitch." And I'm like, "Do you understand that she had to deal with? You'd be a bitch too." People don't understand that. People think that you're so put together and primm and proper and you're just not at all. People also think too, right? I think one of the biggest misconceptions about all of us when mom and dad left was like, "Oh, I don't want to hear you complain. You've got all this money to do whatever you want to do." There's not all this money though. That's what people don't realize. They think there was a bunch of money left behind whenever mom and dad left and there wasn't. No. During that time, you even said to dad the other day. When were you told no though? And you're like, "Well, I really wasn't." There were some times. My life changed for sure. But if I wanted to do something, you found a way that I did it. Yeah. What are some things that people get right about me? Whether it's funny or. I don't know. Not a lot of people get stuff right about us. That's the truth. Not a lot of people that is very. Well, we talked about it on the podcast with Dad and Chase. People think that we're this put together. It's not be family and like, "No, we are trashy." We are. I don't know about it saying we are trashy. No, we are, Samantha. I mean, we're like a tornado. Some of the stuff I've seen you do. Like what? You really want me to tell you? Yeah. What have I done? That you pissed on the golf course in the middle of the fairway. Not in the middle of the fairway. On the kart path? No, it was to the right of the kart path, to the right of the kart path. I mean, hey, let's face it. We've all peed in places that. You know, maybe what you have to say. Samantha has a habit of this. Well, when I have to. Samantha will pee in a bush. She will pee anywhere. See? Not so prevent proper. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Preman proper. I'm good. And, you know, when I did. First off, I'm not the only one that's not preman proper, because. No, I said, well, our whole family's trash. When I started off this podcast, I said, you know, the credit card situation, right? Preman proper would be using your own credit/sash debit card to door-dash food when you live walking distance to the publics and, you know, talk about and every other fast food chain. My whole thing is that if I use my card, I'm going to have to ask for more money anyway. So either way. But that's the difference. No, you're just trying to manipulate your way around it. I'm not. I'm just saying, like, either way, I'm going to. Whether it's you, mom or dad, or your own card for door-dash, that means I have to ask for more money after that. Yeah. So either way. No, either way, because if you were put on an actual budget and said, hey, I'm going to give you X amount of money this month, then your door-dash orders would come for that and you're not getting money until the first of the next month. You know exactly what you're doing. First off, I told you to stop using my card and you still use my card. I just don't really catch it. Yeah, exactly. I used it this morning. What you use it this morning for? My place is right here by three coffee shops where you can. I wanted to break this. You can get food there. What did you order, 51st Ellie? No, crepes. I ordered, like, a Nutella crepe than a coffee. I figured it was your fault because you didn't have food in your place. Y'all have food in my place. You literally said to me last night, I said, I'm looking for food and you go, good luck. Okay. Well, I've been traveling so much so it's stupid. I'm leaving town again. So it's stupid for me to stock my fridge when I'm leaving town. But I really want. Okay, so you walked way through your process on the card using. And you know what? He's actually started doing now. And I haven't called him out on it nor if I said anything to mom and dad. But you'll eat us. He gets money from mom and dad. And then he says to me, well, you know, like, yeah, they bitch at me about this and that. And well, I really want this. And so then he gets me to give him money. So he's double different. Okay, I did that that I know I know. I did that. Yeah, look, double different. I did that the other day because my birthday is coming up. And I was like, do you want to buy me this driver for my birthday? Did you get the driver? Yeah, I did. Well, you know what, guys, suckers get licked and I'm going to continue to be a sucker when it comes to Grayson. And that's the saying? Yeah, yeah, that's the saying. Between their months. No, what? Let's hear it. You probably have to cut this out. Between you, dad, mom, and I'm in good shape. And that's the person I don't ask him. No, he just does. Yes, the person that I'm with and I don't even know. Grayson just dropped a bomb because he doesn't even tell me if he sends Grayson money or anything of that nature. Apparently it just happens. So Grayson can say anything. Grayson's getting employed basically by four different people right now. - Interesting. Good little tidbit of info that I now have. No, it's fine, you know what I do, sometimes. - 'Cause I don't make a big deal out of it. - I'm not saying anything. I don't care if it'd be different if you were out here getting in trouble, but you're not, so I'm like, whatever. But if we're all out and the person I'm with pays for everything and I have friends, we're like, "Oh, I'll Venmo you." I always make out really good 'cause I get Venmo and I didn't even pay for it. So it's a pretty good deal that we got now. - And I'm the bad one. - Whatever, I'd say that. I'm working smarter, okay. But now that we've dealt with a credit card, Fiasco, I do want to talk about like your life after college, what you're aspiring to do. You obviously have this dream of being a sports agent, potentially maybe even having your own company and tell me about that. - I mean, I just think it'd be a lot of fun. And I'd be arguing with billionaires about paying millionaires more money. - See, and so your major right now, is it a business major with a sports management minor? - You can't minor in sports management. - Okay. - So it has to be your major. - Okay, so your major is in sports management. Do you have a minor? - No. - No. - I mean, that would add more time. You don't want me to add more time. - I mean, you could do a sports management minor. - I could do a real estate minor. - I mean, I guess it would maybe help you right in helping them. - I mean, in the worst case. - Yeah. - I can. - But also do a business minor. - I don't know if you can. - Okay. - Because of how big the business school is. - Makes sense. - So when it comes to sports and sports management, I mean, you didn't grow up around the sports business. So what led to that dream of wanting to be involved in that? - I just love sports. And I've always loved the whole contract aspect of it. I'm talking about was this guy worth this money or should he have gotten more, should he have gotten less? - Who would you say now, right? So you're going to be coming out of college. What would be your dream first client to represent? - I don't know. - Probably any Bama guy. - Any Bama guy. - Yeah, that would be cool. - That would be really cool to graduate from there and then to rep a guy from there. - If any Bama guy would be cool. - That would be really fun. So again, you're at Alabama. It's like the football capital, I believe. NIL has clearly changed everything and you've been very passionate about that. - I love it. - From inside the system as a student, what does the NIL world actually look like that we don't see from the outside? - I mean, I love it. I love NIL. - But you love it slash hate it, right? - I mean, I don't know, I love it more than I hate it. I don't think these kids should be going out there and making hundreds of millions of dollars for these schools and what you say, well, they're getting a free education. What does that education equate to a hundred and something thousand dollars out of the hundreds of millions of dollars that they have made for your school? - Yeah. But what do you say, you know, is? - Only one side's making money on that. - Yeah, but are, and for people that don't know, NIL is name, image likeness. Is it good for, would you say that it's actually good for athletes or does it create new problems? - Both. When you're obviously gonna have problems when you give an 18 year old kid a million bucks. - Yeah. - But also, if a kid goes out and gets hurt and can't play again, and he can't go to the NFL, at least he's got some money to start his life with. - Yeah. Now, what is it? Nick Saban is actually working within the-- - He's not a big fan. - Nick Saban's working within the administration right now on NIL and kind of putting parameters around it. - I think there needs to be like a salary cap. - Like there is in the pros. - To stop schools like Ohio State from spending $24 million on one lineup. - Yeah. - That's what they did last year. - But why, I guess too, right, why what are-- - So no one's gonna watch college football. It's gonna be the same people winning every year. - Yeah, for instance, like a prime example, right? Ty Simpson was a quarterback for Alabama. He got drafted to-- - 13th to the Rams. - He got drafted 13th, first round 13th pick to the Los Angeles Rams. But he was, I know there was speculation about him being offered what, like, $7 million from Miami, maybe? - Yeah, I mean, we don't know who it was from, but they said, this is all stuff I've read. - Yeah. - They said he was offered $7 million. - And so he was offered $7 million, he could have-- - But he's always been a loyal guy. - Yeah. - I mean, he stayed at Bama for three years on the bench during the NIL era. He could have left and made money somewhere else. - Yeah. - But what, now he's playing for the Rams, and he's in California, those income tax are steep. He could have made more money staying in college than going to the NFL. So what, I mean, what are your thoughts on that? - He also could have stayed one more year and gotten hurt and never played the NFL. - Hmm. Yeah, so you do have to look through that. One bad play and he tears an ACL or something and he's done. - So you actually wrote a paper on this for one of your classes on NIL deals. And what was the premise of that and what was your professor's thoughts on what you wrote? - He liked it. I said that you should have a salary cap and distribute the money out from the revenue share of the conferences. - Interesting. And what did your professor say about it? - He said, he said, you should share this to somebody. I think it's a great idea. - That's awesome. - I don't wanna give it to the NCAA. I'd find a way to screw it up. (laughing) - And there's that. - He's like, I'll do with everything else. - Then there's that. So when speaking about college, you found your friend group, you found who's real, who's not, how would you explain the friend vetting process at college as being a kid who is in the public eye? 'Cause it is harder. - I don't try to be friends with very many people. - So how have you landed into the friend groups that you're in? - It's just over time where you see how people act and what they do and stuff like that. - What have been, have you been burned since being there? - Kind of, but I mean, it wasn't by people that were, I was super close with. - Yeah, I mean, without obviously naming names, what does it feel like to be in a situation like that? You're trying to be a kid, trying to go get an education, but everyone knows who you are before you even walk in the door. - Yeah, I think it's gotten better. My first semester is bad. 'Cause I had never been around it. But it's just like, it's not as bad now in the classrooms and stuff. - Yeah. - But still, when you go to places, it's pretty bad. You see people, and I think because we're so used to it that we catch when people look and you can hear when people whisper like, when people walk past you, you hear them whisper, oh my God, it's the same thing there. You walk past people going on the street, look at their friend, oh my God, that's crazy. - Yeah. - Do you, is there any part of you that kind of loves it because for the first time in your life, you are somewhere that none of the rest of the family is? So it is more focused around you. - Kind of. I mean, I knew it was gonna be crazy. If you look at my Instagram breakdown, - Yeah. - Mine's like 90% female and 18 to 24. - Yeah. - I feel like that's the people that follow me. So it's like when I'm down there, everybody's like, oh my God, I just keep walking. - But you've never really been one in the family to love the public eye. - I don't, sometimes I don't like it. - Yeah. - Like I was at two times one time and somebody took their boot off and handed it to me to sign it. And I was like, all right. - And your signature is, woof. - Yeah. - Yeah. - One of the best ones in the world. - Signature though. - I love that. And so obviously you're out in the world on your own and you have gone from, you know, my baby brother. This is how I've always viewed you. But now you're like six foot something, 165 pounds. And it's like, you know, the roles are flipping. And away. Do you feel more protective? - Yeah, when we talked about this on the podcast, I'll be out places and no people say stuff. But if they say something about dad, I usually just let it go. because I know dad can take it. - Yeah. - But if they say something about you or mom, like, I'm ready to go to jail. - Okay, well we don't need that. We've had plenty, of course. - Of course, I've caused a few scenes over some stuff. - Like what? - No, they'll just say something about you and think I'm not gonna say anything and I'll turn around and walk up to them and be like, you gonna say it again? And it's a whole scene. - But also, I feel like that's how it should be. Like, I feel like more men should be that way. Protecting the people that they love versus allowing people to run all over them. - Yeah, it's, they say something about you or mom, they're gonna get a reaction. - And it may not be one that you like, people. - It's not. I mean, I've turned around a few times to look at somebody and I'm like, I have to you. - Yeah, right. - I have no problem turning around and saying that. - Good for you. - And, too, I just think our relationship has definitely changed so much, but we will always be like best friends. And it's like, you know, going to football games and doing fun stuff. And especially like your 21st birthday. We're gonna start planning for that. - No, I wanna get a Vegas. - Grey, you really don't. Vegas is not what it used to be. - I do, I don't care. I want to, I wanna go. - What do you wanna do? - If I wanted to go ever since I watched the hangover. - Okay, well your birthday is not going to be the hangover, I'll kill you. - I know, but I wanna go so bad. - Oh, no. - Go into the casino and all that, be fun. - You're so much fun. - You're more for the casino aspect. - Yeah. - Oh, God help me. Well, do I have to come on your 21st birthday? - No. - You do. Do you need a bunch of my friends? - Yeah, Grayson's already like planning. Hey, we're gonna do this, do that. Can I use this, can I use that? - 'Cause all my friends are gonna be 21. - Oh, yeah. - That's my last one. - Really? - The last one in my entire friend group to turn 21. - Holy cow. But you do have friends who are older. And why do you think- - All of my friends are older. - Why do you think that is? - 'Cause everybody I've been around my whole life is older. - Yeah, you just do better with people who are older. - Well, even like, I mean a good example of that is Graylin's husband, Josh. Who's on the phone with him and one of my friends is like, how old's that guy? And I'm like, oh, he's like late 30s. And they're like, what? And I'm like, yeah, talk to him every day. - Yeah. Well, it's because people who have shown up for you in your life, you're a very loyal person. So people who have shown up for you, you never forget it. And I think too, people like Josh, right? Who have been a great influence and who have been there for you and have helped you. - Well, I mean, we've known them since I was like 10. - That's crazy. - And when he told me he was going into the military, I started crying, I thought he was gonna die. - Yeah. - And then they had to lie to me and say, he was going into secret service. - That's crazy. - Dad had to make up a whole thing that he was going into secret service. He's not actually going into war. - I didn't know that. - Yeah, I'm gonna find out. He was like a green beret and I was like, oh, okay. - That's different than what I was told. - That's way different. - But okay, so that's crazy. I had no idea. - I had like a whole breakdown over it. - Oh, like cow. - Yeah. - But see, it's so amazing to have those people in your life who are loyal, who you love. And it just goes to show that, like I've always said, family doesn't always have to be blood. It can be how people treat you and show up for you. - Well, we even still talked when he was on a military base. - No way. - He'd get his phone back and text me. - That's crazy. - And I remember there was one year we were trying to figure out our fantasy draft. And we had to plan it around when he had his phone on the military base so that he could draft his teeth. - Stop. - Yeah. - All right, so we've kind of touched on all things. So when you think of your life five years from now, what do you envision? Like where are you living? Who are you with? - Probably either Texas or Florida. - Okay. - That's where I want to live. - See, I have told you, when I go to build in Florida, I will have a guest house and it can be yours. And we will golf, you will work, it will be fun. - I've had a weird feeling recently that I'm gonna end up doing something that has nothing to do with what I want to do right now. - Why? - I don't know. - What does that even mean? - It's just like, I feel like something's gonna come out of nowhere and it's gonna be like better than what I was wanting to do. - I mean, that's kind of how God works, right? Like when you make plans, he laughs, type deal. I mean, obviously you're passionate about sports and that's what you wanna do, but you also are very much an entrepreneur. You have an entrepreneurial mindset. - Yeah. I was talking about the other day if I could become a general manager of a team. - Would you want to do that? - I don't know, I think I could do a lot better than some of these people out here. - Do they get paid a lot of money? - Yeah, I was watching the draft and there's some out picks. I was like, what are you doing? - Really. - Like this is awful. - So we've talked about life after college, college campuses, all that. This past year on college campuses, you've seen a lot of things change. What would you say about the faith on college campuses? - I would say it's become very hostile. - Really? - Yeah. - And what way? 'Cause I think. - And I had a teacher yell at me 'cause I told her it takes a man and a woman to make a child. - Okay. - And then she told me that I was a man, I'm not allowed to have an opinion on it. - Well, that's kind of insane. - So last time I checked, it took two people to make a child. And I asked her, that I was respectful. I asked her, I said, just a quick question. How many people does it take to make a child? She was well, it depends, I said, no, no. It's not how many people does it take? I said, you need one thing from one person, another thing from another person. - Yeah. - So it's two people? She got pissed off. - Yeah, I do think, but again, that's, you know, this debate has been. - I can't be worried about debating about this, like. - Yeah, but this debate has been had for a while now, but especially over the past few years about the indoctrination of institutions. And you see it firsthand, you've seen it firsthand. And one of your classes, one of your professors? - I will admit, it's not all of them. - No. It's a few bad apples, 'cause what it is. - Do you think though, when it comes to faith on college campuses, have you seen like a resurgence? - Seeing a lot of people be more vocal. A lot of people. - Do you feel like the younger demographics, especially men are having a hard time connecting with God or faith, especially on college campuses, or have you seen kind of, 'cause there have been studies to where it has shown there's been a resurgence and faith and God on college. - The churches in Tuscaloosa are packed out. - Really? - Yeah. - Would you say it's more packed out after the assassination of Charlie Kirk? - I don't know if it's more packed out, but I think more people are being vocal about it than they were before. - And what about you? What, where would you say you're at in that journey as a college kid? - Say I'm not a good place. I just don't want it going to these huge mega churches that try to turn it into a concert. Like I went to wine, I think it was around Easter. It was a huge mega church, but the pastor was, you watched him on a screen. - Yeah. - And I was like, you got all this money to build all these big buildings. But you ain't got enough money to bring somebody here in person. - Yeah, to me that defeats the purpose. - That's a big difference. - I could watch the same thing at home in my living room. - Yeah, that's a big- - That's what I can do. - That's one thing I really didn't like. - Okay. The, that's really interesting. And I'm glad that you pick up on that 'cause that's something I have struggled with for a while is churches. - I can't stand doing that. - You walk into these churches. It's huge, beautiful buildings. - Yeah. - High-tech, all this nice stuff. But you can't bring somebody here to do it in person. - Yeah. - Everybody's got to sit in a room and watch it like we're all watching a movie at the movie theater. - Yeah. - Like. - Okay, so on a lighter note before we wrap up, I want to play a game. Now, I don't know how you're gonna feel about it, but we're gonna do it in lifetime. So, let me see your phone. - Oh God. - Okay, unlock it. - Oh my God. - All right. So, I have a list and we're gonna go through it. Last text you sent and to whom? If they my car guy Let's see think so many who has this many people pinned I think my car guy was last eggs Okay, why's it not I don't know no it was Josh Because they said they're You said you would have to get your poncho out because I would bust Okay, you gotta put some me you gotta put some context out because they announced that the braves are Top five landing spot for Mike Trout and I told him I said if we got Mike Trout you would have to put your poncho on because I would bus Wow, okay Last text last text you received and from who that would be from My car. Yeah, Purcell Farms. Oh, no, yeah, which is where it's amazing. We love to go there and golf Hey, buddy, did you get a count on how many so I can see if we can get you in? That's really sweet of them. Yeah, shout out to Purcell Farms. You guys are great Last three photos in your camera. I know what that is last three photos. Let me see Exactly whoever this guy is Mike Trout to brace Jersey, okay? Oh, this is very ironic His crapes and coffee that he ordered on my card this morning and Then someone's dog Someone's dog Yeah, okay Last song you played on Spotify. I don't listen to Spotify. I got app music. Oh wow Okay, last how do you see what the last Oh, nothing left by Morgan Wolland Morgan Wolland definitely has a we'd love Morgan Wolland in our household last thing he googled oh Probably myself. Yes, literally it's his self. Why did you google yourself? Because I like to see if any new things pop up That's funny. He did he googled himself guys look at little Grayson Okay, most you're most used emoji You're most used emoji Probably the laughing it's a laughing one for sure the laughing one for sure and the others I can't show I didn't even know these existed What are these? Oh, that's your creative person His creative person's really created and that's for sure Okay, anything you want to delete for a scroll any further. I don't like people having my phone Love you. Well guys, that was a prime example of the relationship between Grayson and Savannah me Thank you for listening to this week's episode and I'm so excited to see what's in store for Grayson Where his life goes and you always know I want you to look close to me. So My dream is Florida Around the Jupiter area great for you. I'll be there tons of sports. You'll be there. Mm-hmm Love you love you

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Grayson is approaching his 20th birthday and reflects on the transition from adolescence to adulthood, noting that 20 feels like a significant but not deeply personal milestone.
  2. He is currently a junior at the University of Alabama, with a major in sports management, and has a dream of becoming a sports agent, ideally representing Alabama athletes.
  3. Grayson expresses concerns about the NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) system, believing it creates financial inequality and harms athlete welfare, while advocating for salary caps and fair revenue distribution.
  4. He shares a personal story of financial mismanagement, revealing that he and others in the family use credit cards without transparency, leading to manipulation and financial strain.
  5. Grayson emphasizes the importance of patience and emotional maturity in sibling relationships, especially when stepping into a guardian role, and highlights how family bonds evolve through shared experiences.
  6. He acknowledges the public scrutiny he faces as a well-known family member, noting both discomfort and moments of empowerment in being seen and heard.
  7. Grayson values loyalty and deep, long-standing friendships, often formed through early life connections, and believes family can be defined by loyalty, not just biology.
  8. He expresses uncertainty about his future path, believing something unexpected may emerge, and envisions living in Texas or Florida with a focus on golf, work, and personal growth.

Summary:

Grayson, nearing 20, reflects on the transition from adolescence to adulthood, noting that the milestone feels surreal and unremarkable compared to the significance of age 21. A passionate student at the University of Alabama, he majors in sports management and dreams of becoming a sports agent, ideally representing Alabama athletes. He critically examines the NIL system, calling it exploitative and advocating for salary caps and fair revenue sharing to protect young athletes.

The episode also reveals a personal financial struggle involving credit card misuse and family money management, with Grayson admitting to being manipulated into covering expenses. He highlights the emotional evolution in sibling relationships, especially after his parents' return, emphasizing patience and understanding over control. Grayson openly shares his discomfort with public scrutiny, yet finds strength in loyalty and deep, long-standing friendships.

He values authenticity over appearances, criticizing overly performative churches and questioning their relevance. Ultimately, he expresses uncertainty about his future, believing a surprise opportunity may arise, and envisions a life in Texas or Florida centered on golf, work, and connection. The conversation underscores themes of growth, responsibility, and the evolving nature of family beyond blood ties.

FAQs

It feels weird and sudden, like the excuse of being a teenager is gone. He finds it surprising that 20 is a big milestone, especially since after 21, birthdays don’t matter much.

He feels the shift was hard, especially when he had to take on more responsibility. He now sees their absence as a turning point where he had to learn to make decisions on his own.

People think they are put-together and polished, but in reality, they’re messy and unrefined. He often jokes that they’re a 'tornado' and that people don’t understand the struggles they’ve faced.

Give people time to adapt. Everyone moves at their own pace, and rushing them leads to conflict. He emphasizes patience and understanding.

He dreams of becoming a sports agent and possibly starting his own agency. He’s especially interested in representing athletes from the University of Alabama.

He believes NIL has both positive and negative effects. While it helps athletes earn money, he worries about schools spending too much and creating inequality, and suggests a salary cap.

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