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Nosh #2

In this episode of the NOSH series, the host interviews Alex, Adam's girlfriend. Alex discusses her work at an organic burger joint and elaborates on her vegan lifestyle, clarifying the distinction from vegetarianism by avoiding all animal-derived products. She shares her feminist leanings, arguing that societal structures treat men and women differently, particularly regarding appearance standards and safety. The conversation shifts to recent tragedies, such as the Elliot Rogers shooting, underscoring the dangers women can face when rejecting advances. Alex also recounts how she and Adam met in Ohio, their decision to move to San Diego, and potential future plans to relocate to Los Angeles. The host interjects with personal stories from his childhood in California, and Alex concludes with an anecdote about serving a group of Mormon customers at her job.

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[Music] You keep saying you got something for me Something you call love but confess You've been a messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin' And now someone else is gettin' all your best These boots are made for walking And that's just what they'll do One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you And welcome back to the Electric Spider-I got you This is not the Electric Spider Monkey Train Hour This is what I call a NOSH episode A NOSH episode is basically me time Sometimes I need a break from Adam and Bill Strapper They're very suffocating And I feel like my talents kind of override what they're doing So every so often I'll throw an episode up myself Just so you guys, I know you guys enjoy these episodes And so I do it for you guys, my fans And today I have a very special guest for my NOSH episode I have Alex who is Adam's girlfriend Alex say hello Hello guys How old are you? 27 And your name? Alex Nice So Alex, let's talk about your life And whatever you wanna talk about really All right So you work where? I work at an organic grass fed burger joint I'm going to choose to pass on the name right now Okay, that sounds fine And how do you like working at said burger joint? It's a good spot Yeah Spot decent food, a little pricing But I really respect the products House made sauces, grass fed beef, free range turkey, no hormones That whole sort of thing Oh okay, and that's kind of what the trend is right now And the ones trying to eat healthier and non-GMOs and whatever Exactly, yeah Okay, and you guys have vegan burgers I assume there as well? No, unfortunately it's a vegetarian burger Of course enough Yeah, they have cheese in the patty, but no vegan burger Actually speaking of vegan, I understand that you are vegan Yes I am And for our listeners who probably don't know What is the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian? A vegan does not consume more used animal products in any way So it's not just if an animal is killed It's anything that comes from animals So cheese is out, honey is actually even out for a lot For a lot of vegans Obviously leather Yeah, because that's cow skin That's cow skin, you're not going to get that from a cow without killing it Yeah Actually one of the things that I've heard too is sugar Because not too many people know that sugar is ground up with chicken bones Like they use it in the grinding process Exactly to keep it from caking And also a lot of black tattooings have bone in them as well for the black So even a lot of inks are non-vegan unless specifically I have advertised this such Alright, so that's a little bit about the vegan lifestyle and speaking of lifestyles From what Adam tells me, you have a different lifestyle I guess I would put it as a feminist lifestyle Do you want to dispel the rumors or agree with him? I'd say I have a feminist leanings I'm not entirely sure about the official feminist academic theory And whether or not I agree with a lot of that But I do think that men and women are not equal as such And there are a lot of us societal forces at play And some of those societal forces that do harm to women also do harm to men as well Okay, so you say that men and women are not equal So do you think that one is better and one is worse? Is that what we're saying? No, I'm saying that on a basic level we're all humans so we're all equal on that level Obviously we have a different different abilities such as childbirth or you know getting someone pregnant or things like that But I say as far as house society treats us in the judgment they place on us So they're different requirements I guess for females and males Regarding looks, regarding pay, regarding love stuff like that That's true, you know I do feel though I feel like women are the ones that put pressure on themselves to look a certain way Like the other women in magazines Because you are the ones that keep buying it and keep selling it to yourselves So I mean men aren't putting these magazines together and men aren't buying these magazines So I feel like it's really women attacking women What are your thoughts on that? I think there is a decent amount of a woman or woman attacks as well But a lot of the advertisements I would say are probably male photographers, male lead companies So while some women do try and emulate it I think it's kind of a societal problem as the reason that we do have to emulate it Yeah I agree it is a society problem I don't know I really feel like it's women against themselves And you know guys are allowed to be bigger and still sexy or whatever There isn't a prototypical good looking male The strong square chin or whatever it's supposed to be and ripped abs and whatever But the other guy can get some too Exactly, yeah the guys aren't buying Not every guys are buying fitness magazines so they can get said social to have said square chin Right and I think actually those fitness magazines are women's idea and what they've done is they've tried to influence men to live in their world Try to get back at ya Yeah so then they're like oh we'll put out a magazine with all the ripped abs and the tries and the buys and the glutes and whatever And then it'll make the fat guy feel self conscious Well guess what it's not working We're not falling for it So we're gonna stay fat and happy And speaking of staying fat and happy and men versus women In the news we have a very sad story in Santa Barbara There was a kid, 22 year old kid, Elliot Rogers And he went on a killing spree So apparently he felt like he was a virgin and he felt like women were against him And so he sunk down to the loneliest point and took revenge against all women And he murdered six people and then killed himself So it's a very sad tragic story What are your thoughts on this? He did also go after, he did start off going after the females that had wronged him by choosing to not sleep with him and not participate with him But he did also at the end just go after everyone, men and women basically anyone that had the pleasure of sex and relationships that he did not Yeah and I don't know if you watched his YouTube video, it was like 15 minutes long I'm not watching it It was pretty sad, I mean he was like sitting in the car and it looked like he was like looking off into the beach or something And he's just sitting there just very sadly, ranting about how he's been passed up and he was the ultimate gentleman And all the women that didn't choose him as a lover, they made a mistake and how dare they It was really sad because I'm not going to say that I was a nerd but I feel for this guy because at the same time I was kind of in the same place but not mentally like that I didn't want to kill anybody but I just wish that somebody could have reached out and helped this poor kid It did not happen, family tried to family contacted the cops and let them know hey we think something's wrong There might be a danger here, cops shocked about it, they're like no, he seems like a nice, fine young man He is fine, we don't know what you're talking about and then within a few weeks this went down, it was a tragedy And actually another story that wasn't reported as heavily was a few hours after this Santa Barbara thing was a story out of Stockton California You want to give us the details on that? Sure there was a group of women that went to the home of a three-year-old woman three men, I was going to say a jumpsman, but we'll just call them men because we saw how the last gentleman worked out. They went to the home of these men on a Friday evening and after the men asked them for sex and they turned them down, the men kicked them out. Which is fine. Fair play, fair play. That's cool. As the women were leaving though, there were multiple shots fired from the house towards the women. Women escaped unharmed to the area near near by Buffalo Wildway to get help. But luckily no one was injured in that one. But still quite scary on the men, the men not being happy about women not giving them sex factor. Yeah, you know what? I could kind of see where you're femininity. I mean, that's pretty scary. Usually guys don't have to worry about that. You don't have to worry about going out and getting shot at by a woman for not giving her sex. Or even being raped. You know, guys don't have to worry about that. Yeah, or just anger from turning someone down even if it's not sex. The amount that you have on the street if you don't want to give someone a conversation. You know, if they're like, "A baby girl, you know, and try and talk you up." And you know, like, "Thank you." You know, whether they're just trying to talk to you or ask you out on a date or what it is. If you just give them a hard no, I'm not interested. You'd be shocked at the anger that comes from some people. So that's why some girls are lying. Just be like, "Oh, I've got a boyfriend because like it's a polite way to let them down." Yeah. It's not an outright rejection. It's like, "Well, my hands are tied." Sorry. In the early 90s, it was that song, you know, where the guy was like, the girl's like, "I got a man." And then the guy's like, "What's your man got to do with me?" That is true. That is true. So guys still don't care. So guys, that still does not work. Yeah. Well, you know, I think that they figure, "Hey, your man's not next to you right now." So what are you doing right now? Exactly. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I guess guys are kind of creepy in that way. Some guys. Some guys. Yeah. Some guys. So let's learn a little bit more about Alex and whatever else you might want to talk about your life, some of your experiences, maybe how you met Adam. I don't know. Some plans that you guys feel like in the future or what's going on in your guys' world. Oh my goodness. So what's going on in our world? Well, I guess from the beginning, Adam and I met in a "Heliodo Hio." Okay. Never heard of it. But shout out to our fans from "Heliodo Hio." Shout out to "Heliodo Hio." It's a suburb, suburb northwest of Columbus, which is the capital in the middle of the state. I might have a vague idea of where that is. Yeah. But we're both regulars at the same bar. So we got to chat in there. Okay. I decided I was going to move to San Diego, California to get out of Ohio because it's "Hio" and who wants to be there. Sorry, guys. I'm Helya. I'm tired. Sorry, guys. Sorry, nobody wants to be there. Move to San Diego. Adam decided he wanted to try and make this work as did I. So he worked two jobs like a crazy person, saved up, moved out here, got a place a few months later and still growing strong. We've known each other for over two years now. Okay. Can't believe it's been two years. It's been one week. No. Two years. It's been two years. Two years. So yeah. Things are still going good though. Okay. I guess that's about how long have I known Adam then? When did he get out here? You got it out here. You're about a year and a half ago because we moved into the place back in a beginning of April. So it's been a year and a month in this place and then four months before that. Yeah. About a year and a half that I've known, Adam Lee Robinson. And ever since day one, I want this recorded and sent down. I told him, you and I should get together and we should make a podcast. Hello, my name is Jesse. What's your name? Exactly what I told him. And you know, here we are a year, about a year later, a year and three months later and we started up our own podcast, the Electric Spider Monkey Trayn Hour. But that's not this show. This show is Nosh. Okay. I don't want to confuse people. So what are some, what are you envision in the future? In the future. Let's look all the way into the year 2000 is Conan O'Brien would say. 2000. Would that be 2015 or 2020 now? Just into the year 2000. Into the year 2000. Well 2000 past. Yeah. But we're looking into the future. I'm confused. Yeah, it's okay. Don't worry. Just look into the future. Okay. Looking into the future. That's tough. I have a real hard time looking forward. I feel like we'll probably be leaving San Diego within the next few years, not to kill the Electric Spider Monkey Trayn Hour. Maybe we're taking the show on the road. We're taking the show on the road. And where do you plan to move? It's a good question. I tend to make these sorts of decisions last minute on the on off the cuff. But LA is looking pretty nice. I thought LA was out of the question from the past times I've been there, but we went up to Hollywood a few weeks ago. And we talked about that. And there was, you guys went to a gentleman's club apparently. Yes, we did. And that was on the show. And we talked about, was it a entertainer? Yes. That was entertaining you. And this is Moralda. As Moralda, yes. That's that was the name. Yes. So we talked about that. So your plans are to move up there and visit a live next door to Es Moralda. This is Miss El's Moralda again. Yeah. I don't know where I'd want to live up there. There's places up there. I used to live up there for my whole childhood. That's right. Where did you live up there? I lived in Paramount, California. Okay. And not the studios. Not far from the studios, but it's probably like half an hour away. But it's very different from the studios. They're at Paramount Studios. They make movies. They're in Paramount, the city. It's kind of there's there's some rough patches. But overall, I lived in the nice part. So I feel like that's how I feel like that's how it is for most places in California. It's so densely populated that even when you have a quote-unquote nice area, there's still some pretty rough elements right by it aside from maybe like Beverly Hills or you know something like that. But I mean, most places have that rough area even if it's a nice spot. Did you know I was born in California, Jesse? I did not know you were born in California. We're learning fast. We're learning fast. We're in California where you were born. I was born in Thousand Oaks. I lived there for a little bit. I lived there lived in Agora Hills is also for a little bit. No, it's a very nice place. Just as a little toddler, I don't remember these two areas. And then when I was under five, as they probably like three or something, we moved out to the mother f***ing desert. Why? I just got bleeped my bad out of my bad bill. I'll have Bill Straper just. He'll bleep it and not just scratch your voice out. Won't you bill? You'll bleep it. You better bleep it bill. I don't want to be scratched out. Yeah, scratching. So they moved me out to the desert to Palmdale, California. Oh okay. And how is that? I kind of liked it. I have a soft spot in my heart for the desert and I think it's from living there. We were so far out in the desert, we'd have tumbleweeds below down the street. Oh, like in the movies. Like in the movies. That's cool. It was really awesome. Did you guys have cars or like horses? We did have cars. We had paved roads and we had cars. All right. And yeah, it was good. And we actually got snow because it's like northeast of LA. I don't know if it's actually in the mountains per say, but yeah, we actually not often, but we did actually get snowstorms too often. Oh, okay. That's nice. And then then how did you get to Ohio? Then when I was nine, we moved to West Virginia because that's the birth of my parents. They're from. Oh, okay. And their slogan is the state slogan is wild and wonderful, I think. Oh, I thought it was West Virginia's for lovers. Where's that Virginia? No, Ohio is for lovers is the is the the first one. Oh, really? And that was from a this band called Hawthorne Heights. Put out some songs and then they had some shirts that said, Ohio is for lovers. Then all the other states jumped on the bandwagon. Because I remember the food fighters had a shirt like that because Dave Grohl is from Virginia. Yes. And or West Virginia had one of those. And he had a shirt that said, Virginia is for lovers. So, hmm, maybe that's just like the new trend. Like, you know what the new trend now is keep calm those keep calm. Yes, exactly. Keep calm. You're in California or something. Keep calm and carry on. Keep calm and dot, dot, dot. Or maybe we could do a keep calm electric spider monkey train hour. Oh, I like it. I don't know if you can keep Adam calm though. That's true. He does get a little riled up. He does get very riled. Yeah. Why does he get so riled up? What's wrong with him? What happened to him in his childhood? I don't know. They moved him around a lot. Oh, so what's some of Adam's background story that you know about him? He hasn't. So, yeah. He was born in Florida. He was born in Ohio. But he spent a lot of his youth in Florida up until he was an early And then he moved to all. which is why he's not a big fan of Ohio because he didn't really grow up there. I moved to Ohio when I was 10. I only spent like nine months in West Virginia. And then I moved to Ohio and then I just grew up and healed. But Adam grew up like in Florida, moving around Florida, but down there, and then he came to Ohio. If I have the story correct, I may have this incorrect. That's okay, sure, he'll let us know. He can do a reduction next time he's on the show and correct the info that's wrong. Florida just sounds awful. I've been to Florida. Have you been to Florida? I have just for like spring break. Oh, okay. I went for like a class trip in eighth grade and I almost got killed by lightning that kept Canaveral. Oh, wow. That's a tense. Yeah, it's struck like five feet away from me. And that's pretty crazy. That's good times. No, it wasn't. That was bad times. That was bad times. The place is so hot and muggy. My mother's talking about moving there. Yeah, it's the worst. I think probably the hottest and mugiest place that I remember is because not many people know, but I do have family in Ohio. And I don't remember what part of Ohio. Say what? It might have been Columbus. My mom is half white. Oh, okay. So we have the white family. It's a pillow, Ohio. And we went to visit them one summer. I believe it was like the summer of '89. And we went in a car trip. And St. Louis was the hottest, mugiest, nastiest place that I remember. Oh, okay. Yeah, we stayed there one night and it was awful. But yeah, we went to Ohio. We visited the family. Oh, the Porter family. That's great grandma's side. So they were all the Porter's. Porter's. That's funny because Mrs. Sturers' husband's last name is Portier. And I was like, "Jesse may be pronounced and it wrong." No, Portier. No, actually, that's a kind of interesting story why they're named Porter. Apparently my great grandfather was Polish and he moved to this country. And he had a Polish last name and he wanted to blend in. So when they got off the train, you know, they told him to pick an English last name. And trains have what they call Porter's. And they give you your luggage and whatnot. So they're like, "Oh, that's my last name, Porter." Yeah. So that's how they became the Porter bunch. Go Marica. Marica. Marica. Marica changing things. Whether you want it or not. Exactly. Something exciting that happened to me earlier this week was at the burger joint that I work for. We had a group of elders from the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints coming for a meal. Yes, the Mormons. Oh, they came in for a meal. So it was a lot of some Spanish ones. Oh, okay. Mexican or a Spanish-speaking. I don't know if they were from Mexico, somewhere in South America. I knew a couple of Mormons that were Latino descent. Yes, exactly. That's the word I was looking for. And so, did they be, I don't know, with-- They-- yeah, they had full on like meat meals, you know, everything like that. And they asked to them how their meal was, how everything was, and my way to the back office to do some of my ordering. Okay. And they started talking to me. I made the mistake of mentioning that I like-- they had brought up, you know, how cheerful I was, you know, like what a good demeanor I have. Because that's kind of my thing. I put it on a face of work and I'm just the happiest person to be there ever. And that's what you should do. That's what you should do. It goes over very well. Management likes that a lot. There you go. And then I mentioned that I like working so much because when I have my days off, I almost kind of have to fill them. I'm like, what do I do? I have, you know, some purpose when I'm at work. Yeah. Which is something you work on anyway. You said the word purpose. I said the word purpose. Oh, that's open Pandora's box there for the-- It's like when you kind of notice the dog's eye to walk up the very last second. And they really step into it. And as you're stepping into it, that's what happened there. I realized what had happened is as soon as it came out of my mouth. So they started talking to me about, you know, how salvations, you know, attainable and not just for you, for your family, for your, you know, your friends, all this, you know, they tried to ask me if I would have-- would like to have someone come by, you know, my house to talk to me about this. And I-- I politely stepped out of that one. But they gave me a card anyway. It's a Mormon.org or something along this line. They gave me a card to, you know, check out-- check out some stuff. Yeah. But I-- I had some Mormon friends in high school. When I was 18, me and my best friend-- my best friend Amanda, who probably will never listen to this. Hey, Amanda. I'll say your name anyway, because I miss you. She doesn't talk to me ever. Oh. I call her. She's a-- Is that the best friend? It is. She's bad with phone. She's sent to every friend that's moved away. Oh. But when we see each other, we pick back up like it's nothing. Right. And she, like, on Facebook-- She is on Facebook, but she barely uses it. And I have no social media presence whatsoever. Oh, you have none. I'm off the grid. Oh, man. Everyone-- that's also why you didn't get a last name today. You just get Alex, no last name. Alex, no last name. But she's from Hellierd and-- She's also from Hellierd and-- She's the best friend named Amanda. Yes. But I was going somewhere. Oh, yes. So me and Amanda went on a road trip. And we drove through Salt Lake City on the road. It was a game out to California. Yes. The state of the Mormons. The Mormon capital of the United States. Right. And we actually went to the temple. The temple has a name, but I'm completely blanking on it. But the big white-- The Joseph Smith Temple. The big main one. Yeah. It was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful. And when we were in San Antonio on the way before we hit the church, we ran into the Mormons on the street there. And they actually gave us a Mormon Bible, which was a-- It was pretty neat. Yeah. There were pictures in the front of it, like those paintings that they have in some Bibles. There were pictures of Jesus coming to the Americas and Jesus in the Americas. It was amazing. Were they with the Indians? I think there was one with the Indians. Yeah, it was like a smoking and peace pipe with the chief Wama Pope. Yeah, it was absolutely. Oh, OK. Absolutely crazy. So the-- Yeah, the Mormons, I don't know, because-- From what I understand is that there's a set amount of people that will be led into their heaven. I believe it's 144,000. I thought that was the Jehovah's Witnesses. Oh, is that Jehovah's Witnesses? I think that one's the Jehovah's. No. Well then, let's talk about them. Why are they proselytizing if there's only 144,000 of them that are going to get in? Because you don't know which ones are the chosen ones. And if you miss out on your chance to be the chosen one, you still have to live correctly. So if you're one of those chosen ones and you don't live correctly, then you're out of the running. Well-- It's kind of like the lottery. You have to play it to win it. Yeah. And then so, like, you talking to people? Is that like you buying lottery tickets? Like, if I come and talk to you, and that's like me, and get you to convert and believe, is that a lottery ticket? And then I just scratch you out and see if you were the one of one of the 144,000. I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe that they have like set, you know, set amount of like-- they have to spend some time, like, up their week doing that and talking to people. I had a friend in high school who was also Jehovah's Witness. She didn't really agree with it when she was a teen. So we'd have like birthday party for, like, in the cafeteria after school, since she wasn't allowed to actually have birthday parties. So we go to the gas station and get candy. I like that part. No party. You guys in the celebrate it? Yeah, I mean, it's celebrating it. You're not like a presence, Jesse? No, I don't mind presence, but just the whole-- it's just all forced and contrived. Oh, it's my birthday party. Come and give me gifts and, you know, I'll throw this party or somebody I'll throw it. I don't know. Anniversaries and Christmas. Christmas is for kids, and I don't mind that. But it's not for adults. Yes, it is. No, it's for kids. No, it's not. You just give gifts to kids and you watch them light up, and, you know, they do all the crazy celebrating and whatever. It's not for adults. You know, Valentine's Day is just hallmark holiday. You should-- or even like Mother's Day and Father's Day. You should appreciate those people every day in your life. You should, you should. And there shouldn't be a special day where you're reminded to and you're forced to, and you have to buy them cards and you have to buy them flowers and chocolates and, you know, or else poke them on. I don't know. You know, I just-- I don't celebrate anything. That's fair. So that's why I like that religion, but I'm not going to join them. Adam's really similar. He does not really do the whole celebrating gift, whatever he-- he does give me gifts because I love gifts. And then I run into a problem because I love giving gifts as well, and he cannot stand receiving gifts. I guess because he feels like he expect him to act a certain way. No, I'm like, I know you're going to love whatever I get you. So that's really cocky. I don't know if that word cocky. Yeah, you could say cocky. Cocky. Cocky. Cocky. Cocky. I don't know. It's-- But I figured out the trick. I just buy them stuff that he needs. So like for his birthday this fall, I just got him like, he needed a razor and blades and like, he needed new just like playing t-shirts. And stuff like that. I just loaded up a big box of those things. Okay, see that's cool. And you know, like me and my wife have talked about it before, and we're adults. If we want something, we'll get it. You know, like if she wants to get a necklace or whatever she likes, she's going to go and store and buy it. Because that's what we do. We're adults. And I'm going to wait for me to buy it and then hold onto it to Christmas or whatever. Maybe she doesn't even like it by Christmas. She's giving it to the goodwill at that point already. So that's why I don't know. I don't agree with celebrating any of those days. And I know I-- When I started not celebrating a lot of those days, I'd get a lot of guff from coworkers and stuff. They'd be like, "Hey, would you buy your mom for Mother's Day?" Like, nothing. (laughing) Nothing. I told her Happy Mother's Day, but just 'cause I had to. And I love my mother, but I just didn't buy her anything. That's just me. How about this? We do one more little segment. Okay. Usually there's a segment that I do. It's called teaching Adam sports. And then this is where Bill Strapper puts in some music, so we have to be quiet. All right. And so let's teach you some sports. What sports do you want to learn? What do you, what sports do you like? And, or what sports do you not like? And I will bash you over the head with knowledge of it. I feel like I'm gonna be a jerk and throw you a thing, or do you know anything about rugby? 'Cause I know nothing about rugby. I do know a little bit about rugby. Well, you tell me a little bit about rugby. Rugby is played with like an oversized football. Okay. They do not wear pads. I think there's like 50 people on each team. (laughing) They just kind of get in a circle and kind of hug each other. All at once, they kick a ball around. And I think they throw it, perhaps. And that's all I know about rugby. So that's what we got for this week in teaching Adams Girl Friends Sports. All right. So let's go ahead and wrap up the show. And I wanna thank our guest, Alex. Thank you guys. If you wanna hear more of me, email Justin Adams and tell him you want me back. That's right. We've been toying around with the idea of bringing in a third person. And Alex is definitely one of the people that we've been thinking about. I don't know. If you guys wanna give us some feedback, let's see how this episode went. Okay, so the email address is the [email protected]. spelled out [email protected]. Give us some feedback on what you thought the show was like. So signing off for this NOSH episode. I have been Jesse Ebers and I've been Alex. Goodbye. Goodbye. ♪ I don't know walk all over you ♪ Are you ready, Boots? Done walking. (upbeat music)

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host introduces a solo "NOSH" episode featuring guest Alex, Adam's girlfriend, discussing her vegan lifestyle and feminist perspectives.
  2. Alex explains veganism as avoiding all animal products, and shares her views on gender inequality and societal pressures on appearance.
  3. The conversation touches on recent violent incidents linked to rejection, highlighting safety concerns for women.
  4. Alex recounts meeting Adam in Ohio, their move to San Diego, and future plans possibly involving relocation to Los Angeles.
  5. Personal anecdotes include the host's California upbringing and Alex's encounter with Mormon customers at her workplace.

Summary:

In this episode of the NOSH series, the host interviews Alex, Adam's girlfriend. Alex discusses her work at an organic burger joint and elaborates on her vegan lifestyle, clarifying the distinction from vegetarianism by avoiding all animal-derived products. She shares her feminist leanings, arguing that societal structures treat men and women differently, particularly regarding appearance standards and safety.

The conversation shifts to recent tragedies, such as the Elliot Rogers shooting, underscoring the dangers women can face when rejecting advances. Alex also recounts how she and Adam met in Ohio, their decision to move to San Diego, and potential future plans to relocate to Los Angeles. The host interjects with personal stories from his childhood in California, and Alex concludes with an anecdote about serving a group of Mormon customers at her job.

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A NOSH episode is a solo show where the host takes a break from co-hosts Adam and Bill, focusing on personal content for the fans.

Vegans avoid all animal products, including dairy, honey, and leather, while vegetarians typically avoid meat but may consume animal by-products like cheese.

Some sugars are processed with bone char, and many black tattoo inks contain bone, making them non-vegan unless specifically labeled otherwise.

Feminist leanings involve recognizing societal inequalities affecting both men and women, with different expectations placed on each gender regarding looks, pay, and relationships.

Women may face anger or violence when rejecting advances, leading some to use excuses like having a boyfriend to avoid direct confrontation and potential harm.

They met as regulars at a bar in a suburb northwest of Columbus, Ohio, and later moved to San Diego together to continue their relationship.

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