No. 1 Cartel Expert on The 3 “Ground Zeroes” of the Mexican Cartel Occult | Ed Calderon • 465 | Ed Calderon • 465

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And if that's true, then that means we have an active presence of the new generation cartel right of the border. And they've, you know, they've been using that tunnel from the way I see the construction and the cement and how new all of it is. I mean, like five years old, four years old, maybe. But who knows? How much money you think you can make out of one of those tunnels? A lot. What could you put through? What can you bring back? Yeah. Anything. It, uh, it, this goes back to what you were talking about about the US selecting the janitor, the middle intending or the high up guy. Um, when 9/11 happened, and this is, these are stories that I heard before this is more, before my time when 9/11 happened, I was, I was in medical school trying to figure that out. Um, and then, uh, what, when I was, when I, when I went to the academy and I heard stories from the older guys that were around for that, they told me that the, the people's mugglers and everybody on the border were called by somebody high up and they were told to immediately report anything Arabic in their area. Anything that's smelled of Arabic or Islamic to be treated. They would, no, they would be grabbed and no, no, I'm not saying the Arab, the, the people they reported, but I'm saying in exchange for saying, Hey, you throw us a bone, cause this, you take some stuff. Maybe, maybe. I mean, it's, yeah. Yeah. So if you're the United States in 9/11, just happening, you're worried about your border. It's interesting that they decided to call not only the government to, but they called at least one of them. Remember the soprano's episode where the FBI agents go to Tony. Yeah. And they're like, I use Arabic guys is right after 9/11. Literally, the Arabic guys in your club. If you give us some information, you know, I'll be on the same kind of deal. Something like that happened probably with the Sino-Lakartel. Um, interesting. And if you look back at the history of the Sino-Lakartel, Michael Mayosambala, and Mayosambala had a very interesting connection to somebody who was around for the, the Bay of Pigg incident. Which guy was that? He was dating his sister, as I remember his name, but he was somebody involved in, he was, I think, a former Cuban police officer that was involved in some CIA type of shit, probably. And realistically, Omayosambala learned his tradecraft in Los Angeles. So the Sino-Lakartel is also an American cartel in Los Angeles. What's the story there? He was in Los Angeles trying to figure shit out for himself. And he learned some tradecraft there as far as how to move things around and where money could be made. How old was he? 30 maybe? Probably in the 30s. Okay. And you want to think about it. He was one of the most successful ones at it because he started young and he got arrested or abducted when he was pretty old. Yeah. Like he's, he has a lot of health issues. He was, he was, uh, he was pretty much on his way out, I think, physically. So this, this probably caught him at the right time as far as in right, needing some medical attention. Um, I posted an interview with the, uh, Luis Chapado posted this interview with one cartel guy where he was speaking about Omayo, having, built a, a truck trailer with a medical facility inside of it. So if he ever had any issues, he would just drive this moving hospital into a ranch somewhere and get an operation. If you straight out of like a fucking wow. Yeah. Uh, uh, Chapagoosman was operated in one of those, apparently almost fucking died. They were trying to kill the doctor that almost killed them, but he was a compartment of the Omayo. So he couldn't do that. That's a movie script scene right there. It's a whole real story. 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A lot of the stuff is hard to pull off now, though, because we're moving into a age where you have to have biometrics on your phone. Now, you have to give up your biometrics to have any sort of identification in Mexico. Now, everything's getting digitalized. I'm going to mention the six letters again, but Mexico has been a proving ground for a lot of these information and intelligence gathering products from Israel that have now been growing and growing exponentially into camera systems in different places, airports, people's movements being tracked. It's harder to hide now, specifically with the United States flying overhead. Yeah, we just came back from Europe, deep in, and when you go through security now, it's all just, you don't even hand your passport over. Yeah, I've custom. It's a robot. It's a robot. Yeah, that's, that's, that's everywhere. That's going to, that's going to become the whole thing going right to Peter Teal's hard drive. What do you think about Peter Teal? Like, I posted about, I thought, I thought you were posting a picture of you. You looked a little different. Yeah, as I saw that, like, it's somebody tagged me. They were like, man, I need to figure that out. But he is, like, did you see that guest list? They had? Yes, that's everybody at every level. It's the same thing he, it's, it's Bilderberg, which he's a part of, same kind of thing. And also the fact that a hacker just found all that information on his website is pretty great. God bless those people. But again, Banana Republic, shit. Yes. You see the, did you see the schedule? Yeah, I got a builder cult was one of them. Yeah. I mean, this was a four week schedule. There's like 45, deep has it. There's like 45 things on there. There was a dating one, build a cult, getting ready for World War III. Bunker building, I think, was not, like, yeah, here it is, right here. Can we just zoom in? Do you say I can read a couple of them? I'm not going to read all 45. I mean, and I, and I, and I just want to put this out there. Just like Americans are fascinated about cartel stuff and shit like that. Like, oh, look at these cartel guys being like, we're like, when we see this shit, like, holy shit, the illuminati is real. Yeah. It's like a Delac T party new world. We can in must-settle Mars. Case closed. ESP is real. How to steal an election. That's a three hour course. Apocalypse. Didn't he do like these anti-Christ things? He did, he did, he did a lecture quietly about the anti-Christ right in the shadows of the Vatican right there. And the, like, what are we doing? Yeah, what are you seeing, Dave? I'm seeing a few weird ones here. America's church, West Barrow. The West Barrow Baptist. Yeah. Look, Megan Phelps ropers talking. What the fuck? Baby factory, the future of fertility, and the case for nihilism. I mean, the bright side and nicotine, you might be able to get behind that one. Yeah. All the time that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the ice cream break. A safe space. Oh, Peter Teal called something a safe space. That's very not on brand for him. Very weird. UFO summoning. That's another question I have. Like again, I'm here to represent Mexico, I guess, in a lot of ways. How to pay for something. And I'm talking to the United States. Are you guys representing the United States? What the fuck is going on with all this alien shit? Dude, listen, I said this and I'm sticking to it based on what I've seen, because you know, I care about this. Like it's one of the interesting things ever. Yeah. But when they came out, I believe on somewhere around February 20th. So think seven, eight days before we invaded Iran. And, you know, 20 some days into the Epstein tranche 2 crisis and we're like we've been aliens, the Pentagon to release the alien shit. I was just like this is shiny object in your face. Everybody look here. And if you've seen these UFO vows, there is nothing of note in there that we haven't seen before. That doesn't look totally. My favorite thing is the star shaped one, which is obviously a flare with a parachute behind it. But for me, it's like, we're all we're all leading bananas right now. I just guess. Okay. Okay. You're a hundred percent right? I'm just I'm asking. I'm asking all of us in Mexico are like sitting like sitting on the fence looking over here. Like what the fuck are you doing? No, it's it is the fairest question ever. And it's like we were talking about in what's probably the last episode now, where, you know, it's just another sign of banana republic type shit. And then you see you talk about like people who might say, oh, the illuminati is real. Like what I mean, this is like kind of the gay illuminati. But like, you know, it's a it's part of the illuminati. It's it's something. So, so again, questions, when you see Epstein, you know, when you see this, when you see the owner of Microsoft saying that Epstein was like trying to pressure him to do some shit because he knew that he had a venereal disease and he gave it to us. Like, um, who do we or who do we put in prison? How do who would he go after? If it was a just obscene in the middle of his, just doing all this shit? Was he being utilized by somebody high enough? And again, we on my and I'm like, who, who, who, who do we turn to? Great question. Who do we turn to? Is my question? When I saw the election of Andrez Manuela, whistleblower and Mexico, I knew that he was a punishment by the people towards political class. He was like, fuck all these guys. This guy's going to drain the swamp. You know, heard that one before, brother. And and then you, you see this and yeah, there's something that are changing, you know, some things aren't moving. I don't know. I don't see it here. But then you see this. Yeah. So I don't, I don't, how would let Nick stand in next to Trump at the G7 a week before he's sitting court sided the next game, like nothing happened after he paid $5 million to the fucking Super PAC that supports the GOP Congress before he had to testify about the fact that he lied about everything about Epstein in the past and did it on camera last summer on a podcast with a concocted long beautifully told dramatic story. One, in fact, the whole time he's been his neighbor at fucking, just public information. I'm not also going to mark that deep. So I don't get in trouble. You know, it's like, yeah, it's, it makes me sick. And I, I've said this now a few times in the last week on some different podcasts. But I want to emphasize this. Don't give these people what they want by when they're out in public doing anything illegal, getting physical with them or anything like that. Do not do that. That is exactly what they want. So they can say, look at the fucking bread and circus masses who were just barbarians. But when people like that show their face in public, practice your first amendment, right? With your hands to yourself far enough away from them to heck with them and let them know we will not forget. Like the, the, the, this is the thing Ed, if Howard Lutnik, after he was caught lying, went into his testimony that week and then resigned and shame and went home. Don't give me wrong. I have no fucking respect for him. The guys just come back. But I have let it go. The hubris it takes to be a billionaire who not only does that, but then diminishes it pretends it's not really a big deal and continues on in his job as commerce secretary after paying off the people to help stay in the job right there. Who have to listen to your testimony? Fuck you. Yeah. I gave you a prediction of who's going to be the next president of Mexico. Yeah. Do you have a prediction of who's going to be the next president of the United States? I mean, so I have a, I think I have a 2032 prediction. Okay. I said this to Alessia Laman, who you know, he used to be on the board here and works with me on the content side now and does an amazing job running the second and third channels. I said to him three years ago, I said I have about a two to five percent confidence interval on this. But I said probably not 2028 but 2032. I don't say this is a political statement. I just say this is analytical. And I think my confidence levels closer to 10% now. 2032. I could see Candice Owens running as a Democrat. Yeah. Boomerang. Yeah, I could see that. But other than that, I got nothing for you. It's a wide open fucking everybody sucks, you know? Yeah. No. Yeah, I get it. I'll get a lot of shit for that prediction because people think that's crazy and that's fair. But yeah, it's a fucking throw it in the board. Look at the pieces on the board and say it's getting interesting out here. No talker. So I've said this to I just don't think Tucker will do it. But I've said if Tucker runs and if they don't kill him and those are two really big ifs. Yeah, I hope you present in 2028. I just don't I do not think he'll do it because of the two things I just said. But you know, he the thing about Tucker regardless of what you think about like his political stance is just on a broad 30,000 foot view in the air. When you look at that, he can run to the right of woke and to the left of the neocons. Yeah. That's an interesting sweet spot. It's he's he's he's writing a line that is a very interesting one. He just had can is on. Yeah. And that's an that for me, like viewing that separation, like he was like something happened with the Charlie Kirk thing. I think that's the beginning of this weird separation I saw within the right out here, which is the right. I don't know. I think that was the thought that was the like just looking at it analytically. That was the boom moment because then they just said, Oh, here's what happened. We're good. Everyone go to this fucking WWE funeral and that's the end of it. But there was a real fracture happening before that generationally. Yeah. And I think Tucker has picked the populace there on that fracture. And that fracture does have to do with these wars. That's why I like I think we're we're in for another punishment like another boat to punish. And I think like and also can we agree that there's no way that anybody can end up in the presidency now. If not being a celebrity somehow. I think that that's no more. I don't think we're going to see another Obama showing up like this unknown politician just being groomed and like put forth. I think there has to be somebody that's been cultivating themselves. So you could be in the running. Get the fuck out. I will. So I don't like saying never on things. I will never ever run for public office. Exactly why you should. No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's interesting. For me, it's like looking around the room. The influence that you have, that people that speak like you have. And the ability for you to make somebody say like, Hey, you know what? This guy's driving with me on a daily basis when I listen to him. So let me just vote for this person. I think that's what I'm looking at now is like, where are we going to pull these new candidates from? Can't be traditional people who are linked to all the shit in the past because there's a lot of sin in the past now. A lot of people who are involved with other countries and all this other shit. So who are the outsiders in this political class? Yeah, you know what? Tell me what you think of this. But you know, we've seen mom Donnie win on like a people's campaign in New York and he's got some fucking crazy politics that I think is nuts. But if you just look at like the strategy of him as like a brand, obviously he did a brilliant job. Yep. And he's turned himself into kind of a celebrity from the politician side. I do still think that's possible for like a someone who is not saying influencer or a commentator or a celebrity like from Hollywood or something like that who is coming from the political side, but makes them into that modern day Obama celebrity. I could see that happening. I just I agree with you. The chips are more stacked against that side. Yeah. For sure. Like Mark Cuban has a better shot at like, I don't know if that's a good example, but you get my point. Like has a better shot at like creating a political brand tomorrow and self-funding the beginning of it at least than you know, some politician that needs to go ask for grassroots donations. Do you think that any sort of support of Israel is going to be politically bad? It's a political death now. And that which means that you just cut out almost every single politician in the United States, I think. Not all of them because some of them are it's getting so unpopular that some are actually able to do some. Now people right away say, well, Thomas Massey just got voted out. Here's the thing about Thomas Massey's election. It was a primary. Just on the right side, it was a close primary. So you have to be a registered Republican. The lowest turnout votes in America, regardless of the attention on them or not, are always primary votes in Congress and stuff like that. That's not like the presidential race. And the people who vote in those elections statistically the most are the very old people. And those are the people who are watching like the Miriam Adelson ads on Fox News, so Ed Galrain was able to win. And like you could probably see that coming. But if you think that that's going to be like a long-term trend in main elections, I think you're nuts. I think that I think that the Epstein issue and right now the actions of the current Israeli government are two of the most bipartisan Kumbaya positions in the history of modern history, at least in this country. Yeah. You know, and it's not to, by the way, it's not to say like, I need to bear for a treat Israel as my number one enemy or something like that. No, but we need to unwind the influence. We need to be our own country. We need to stop listening to them to go fight their wars and do shit like that. And we need to have things like APAC register under FAR and not give FAR and aid to have their weapons so they can bomb other people. That's their business if they're going to do that. And I'll disagree with it. Okay. Another question is me being a representative of Mexico right now. Let's say that happens, that influence goes away. And you know, you don't have that influence anymore. You don't get drawn into any foreign wars that aren't your own. You don't get sent. You don't have to send your kids out there anymore. As a country now, what? You know, no wars. Like you have, you have the decision making here. No more, no more foreign wars. What would you do as an American, as an American country? And I like, let's see, like, what are we going to focus on now? So I think there's two answers there. Number one is I'm not a pure isolationist. And here's what I mean by that. I think war is hell. I think it is a the last scenario you ever want to go to. It is, it is hell on earth. But I recognize that the world is a really fucked up, complicated place. And there is a time and place where something like that may be necessary. I think that the actions that we've gotten into though in recent history have not been at that bar. Yeah. Okay. The second thing is, and this is a really dark part of human nature. But there's moments in the studio that sometimes it won't be a moment that like people out there pick up on as much. But like I'm in here with people. And it will like really, like when it's happening, I'm like, whoa, chills, like holy shit. Wait, what the fuck was that? And one of the biggest ones that ever happened for me was the second time I talked with Andy Boost-Monte, who's definitely still in the CIA back in summer 2022 for episode 107. We got drunk on whiskey that episode. We're just going back and forth for three and a half hours. And maybe like an hour or 45 hour, 50 minutes in, he does this thing where he like, we're going back and forth on some and he goes, we need an enemy that we can all coalesce around. Yeah. And this is a very politically divisive like crazy time. This is when we're coming out kind of of like the pandemic stuff and people are all pissed each other here. He's like, we need an enemy that we can all agree on. Yeah. And there is something really dark in human nature and large groups. And in these stories that we called countries around the world where unfortunately, that's always true. And the other unfortunate part is that nine times out of 10 where we decide to pick one, it's a totally unnecessary one. Yeah. And so I don't really know what to do with that because that is our nature. But that's not what I want. Like I don't want to look at other people. It's like, I want to find why you're an enemy. That's the most fucked up thing ever. I mean, look at the job I do. I make friends with people around the world. Yeah. That's why I wouldn't be a good leader. By the way, you know, that's just not my, it's not my role because those guys have to make some decisions sometimes where you have to look for the bad before you look for the good and people. Yeah. And I don't like that. On my end, I was programmed when I was young to look for enemies in that way and to view shit with suspicion and to view other people as threats. Was that program from in your house or was programming from my training, right? And also trauma and all the bunches that went out of my head. 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But they're pretty nice and they shared their bread with me. These people didn't really know me. I was there for some advisory shit I was doing with them and they were pretty nice and I was like, "There's no suspicion here. These people are letting me in their houses." Then I went around the country and I think I've seen most of the United States except Alaska and Hawaii. I think I'm missing. May I put a rego? 51st day. Cuba later. I don't worry about it. Then Mexico. Then Venezuela. Then Venezuela. Then Greenland. Maybe Canada. But what I realize is the United States is very segmented. You go to Kentucky and that's one thing which I live there for a bit. You go to Texas is another. California is another. They're all like think that they. It's the same thing that I found in Mexico. Mexico is three Mexico's. Northern Mexico where they're all the conservatives are. Central Mexico where all that's our California. Then Southern Mexico which is completely forgot. That's our South, I guess. I encountered, but I didn't encounter here in the U.S. It was like a lot of kindness. Openness, curiosity and safety in a lot of places. I know, well, except Baltimore. I don't like Baltimore. But other than that, walking down the street here with you and I looked around a lot. I don't know if you've noticed that. It's not because I'm suspicious about those places because I'm traumatized. I come from a country where there's a lot of shit that happened to me and I have that trauma that I carry it with me. This country has trauma itself. I don't think the U.S. and people from this country don't realize that they have that trauma. They have a trauma of being on top. We're at the top. We're at the cultural center. We are the winners. We have the World Series that only we plan. There's a lot of that going on. If I could advise anything of any American out there, listen into this. Travel. I want to go to Mexico, but I think it's unsafe. Baltimore is unsafe. I'll take you to my hometown in Tijuana. It'd be safe as shit there. It's not because I'm going to be with you. It's just because you're not going to be selling drugs in a street corner and you're not going to be wearing a cartel regalia on you. We can go about and meet some of the best tacos in the world. You won't want to leave a lot of Americans don't leave. That's why they're down there. Whatever you were sold about in Mexico is that being this scary ass fucking place. You have to tell that to all the Americans who are living down there and have their dreams down there. That's one thing I would ask them. Travel. Go see it for yourself. I'm afraid. I'll take the whole of these cartels. They're going to get me. Nobody wants you. They don't want you. They don't want you. They don't want you. Probably don't bring your truck if you're going to some of these spicy places because they're going to steal it. Better than that. Just go travel. Talk to people. Yes, just like I did when I came up here I don't think everybody up here is a cool class clan member or Blake or that everybody that is gonna be the school shootings everywhere here If you look at it from the outside, that's what you would think I actually did meet me to clan member California out of all places beside the point a grand dragon and fall brook fall brook, California. They have like Anyways, now you're like an enemy, too, right? Yeah, yeah, they look at me. They're like Like you can't pass you can't pay at least you sorry, at least you speak our language correctly, you know If if if the the I guess what I've seen is there's a trauma in As you say every generation we get a new enemy Yes, I had a surreal moment at one point when I was brought into advice for Military program where they were training people to go into a foreign countries, right? And they were part of the hundred program that the Marine Corps used to have and a lot of their training was based around Islamic terrorism which is Not in fashion anymore, not really, right? And they brought me in because they wanted to see a perspective of what the future enemy may bring and I was like Oh, it's cool. I know a little bit about you know cartels that you like that. Is that your future enemy? It dawned on me though when they when I was given the introduction This is at Calderon and he comes from Mexico. He did 12 years of counter cartels work down there This is a subject matter expert on this and this and this and he's a pretty good representation of our next enemy And he said as the guy was a Muslim he has a Muslim background. He says You're you guys are it now Yeah, as they slapped me on the back Wow, and when you hear a lot of the rhetoric that was politically Spouted during these last few administrations. And I'm not just saying out of the right You know, Bama deported. Oh shit. Oh, yeah So this isn't this isn't right or left thing. This is the United States thing where we're sold the enemy Immigration is the enemy. They're here to steal our jobs What jobs are we stealing the United States has another drug problem? Which is illegal immigration cheap labor. You're addicted to it. It's there's a reason why immigration is There's illegal immigration is kept illegal. It's because people At certain places in the government and certain places that pay for some of these political figures and donate to some of these political parties Do not want to have cheap labor Band or taken away They they don't want to regulate that ship because they've been living off it for years Covid epidemic hit there was no produce shortages in the aisles So are we saying that illegal immigration was his actual workers back then? There's a lot of people in Mexico. They don't want to work There's a lot of people up here that don't Very real. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I mean they've talked about that before and it gets like Stamped on things like a little bit too stereotypically sometimes, but there is something in like whether it's Mexicans or other Communities that are coming here illegally legally whatever like where there's some jobs that societally we Don't want to do and they will and that there's something real about that history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme yes I've heard the same stories from Italian-Americans and they're and the way they came up. I've heard the same stories from Irish Americans I've hear different stories from people from across the world that come to this country and they're trying to figure things out I'm I'm I've just got here, you know, I did my Due diligence and I did everything through my legal channels that I had to go through and My daughter's here. She's an American. She's a third-generation American now In my mind, I I like to think that there is something to the whole aspect of this experiment that was A bunch of weirdos throwing teen to the ocean and being the Taliban of that era the Taliban of that oh Fuck yeah, you're a revolutionary fuckers. You're doing throwing tea fucking scalping fuckers in the hills learning from the natives How to be scouts doing this warfare dude? I watched the Patriot that was probably a documentary, right? I don't know. There was something going on there For my favorite movies ever the the bill of rights the constitution Reading it as somebody it's not from here. It is It does something to me at least really I didn't have it that went out where I'm from it's like hey I can buy a gun keep it in my house and defend my property and my family and not have to depend on a corrupt institution That might be or not might be working with the government or the cartels which may be the same thing And I can you know they have that and also I can start a company. No, I came here with nothing. I have 12 employees now I can't fulfill a dream like that anywhere else in the world This is still here. This is still it's still here if you hungry if you want to work if you want to put in the effort There's opportunity here. That's the thing. It's like as bad as some things are and I'm not minimizing it We talk about it a lot here. There's some shit that is Rotten in the core. Yes, the fact that we still have something that like people from around the world want to be a part of Tells me that the rebuild could be amazing because the baseline is already very much still there and we cannot lose that yeah Like yeah, the what is still there is There's still an experiment or what is left of an experiment that started long ago that's right When a bunch of weirdo showed up to this place and said like hey, we just want to figure our own shit out We don't want to be bothered by a fucking monarch somewhere across the ocean Was it be where foreign influence? That's what Washington said we don't want to be fucking bothered with a good foreign influence We want to govern ourselves. We want to figure out how to have our civil liberties We want to appear out of fender cells well-regulated militia Bro AR 15s are for people as I as one of the ISIS said I don't know if the q or t but one of them said that that's a pretty it's a pretty yeah, it is I Think There's no other place in the world where you and me can have a conversation as openly as this and even Within this conversation we're being very careful about a few things That should be a red flag and an alarm for people out there that some of us are not as able to be speaking freely as we could or would 20 years ago 30 years ago and What are we? Are you about what are we fighting for what are we? What are most of my better-in-friends depressed about is that they were so the fact they were fighting for something that turned out to be What we're living through now sure Yeah, I will say this ed, you know, there's been some Catastrophic errors within the current administration and I think politically we've been in a really bad place on both sides of the aisle for a long time now I do always try to find like oh there's one bright spot or something like that I was doing that with Biden when he was in office and one bright spot with Trump To this point that is at least better off the baseline is that I Can tell you being haven't been in this job for six and a half years We're more able to talk about things now. Yes. Then we were three years ago. Yes. It was scary I could I could something I could tell you that my experience on social media and being banned and taken off All these platforms that's completely changed as well, so I will have to say that and again We're living through an event that is changing things in my home country and Whatever the motivations are for this. That's something that's happening, you know That people have lived with and thought was never going to change and in some way shame shape reform is changing I think for me the worry is this at some point As you say we're gonna pick the wrong enemy and if you decide as a country that is a good idea to invade Mexico You're going to awaken something You're going to awaken something that you have I don't think I don't think as a country we're ready for war on our borders Mass migration that is going to dwarf anything that you saw in Syrian Europe who and a cultural Moment as a country when a lot of the citizens in this country who have blood Who have family who self-identify themselves as Mexican in a white one-way shape or form who are part of our police forces are Vass me but the vast majority of our military Services or service members are some of them are a lot of them are Mexican or Mexican descent Border Patrol which is interesting enough Like what's gonna happen there like who who people talk about all these possible civil war or Civil strife events that might happen in the future. I watch that movie. That was perfect cool movie, but I don't see it. I don't see it. That's going to play out that way. I think if we make the mistake of making an enemy out of this neighbor that we have on the southern border, which I'm I'm from there and I know them well. I know them well because I'm one of them and I mean, I get paid right now to teach people up here how to fight in wars because they realize that I had a pretty good university. I got the best university in the past 20 in the 20 years in the world. Mexico is that and I can tell you by being there learning from these people, being one of them, fighting in these places, they're going to bring the fight to you. Yeah. So all of this to say ground invasion or interference of that level by the United States and Mexico is not the best course of action. It should be avoided at all costs. Completely agree. Also, it gives me a little bit of hope. I haven't whether it be on camera or with people I talk with off camera. I haven't talked to one special forces guy or one guy like from the bureaucracy or something like that or from the political world who's like Gung Ho on doing something like that. It's like I've talked to people who are like, yeah, declaring the cartels tires organization gives us some interesting freedoms to be able to do stuff but like the beef is not like you don't think about Claudia Scheinbaum the way you think about other world leaders that you don't like. It's like kind of like a neutral thing in America and there's a lot of Americans who don't even know who she is. Yeah. You know, I do take a more positive outlook on that as much problems as we seem to have with certain things like cartels and us on this side having problems with the border and consuming drugs and human trafficking and all these things which is on us. It's like those are issues that can be worked out. I truly believe this in other ways and I couldn't agree more. I think invasion of Mexico would be forget everything you even just laid out. The economic disaster of that immediately from a trade perspective. People don't kidding me. People don't even realize how connected we are and it's suicidal to say that and push that narrative out there and there's a purpose behind it. The division, you know, divide and conquer in all this. All I'm saying is this a lot of the rhetoric that is being spouted out there on both sides from Mexico and from the United States. I mean, I get called all sorts of shit from both sides. So like, I mean, you're doing something right? Probably. Yeah. Right. So, mind you, I'm not a supporter of the cartels. I don't want any of I don't want any of that to continue on. It's horrible. It is monstrous organizations out there. But also some government organizations are monstrous. Absolutely. So like, first off, separate the government from the people. That's one thing. Another another aspect of this is our yes, we're neighbors. We're dependent on each other. If I can actually tie to the hip on each other. And the world is becoming a little bit more and friendly by the day. We're going to need each other more and more as we go. I think we're heading away from globalism and we're heading into this continental euro union of some sort that we're going to try and probably experiment with. That means that in a lot of a lot of ways, shapes and forms like we're dependent on each other. Yes. And as a people and as a society, we have to stop the humanizing the other side. Mexico does that a lot with Americans because they, you know, one of the Mexico, you know, far from God but close to the United States is something that gets said a lot down there. And now with all the stuff that has come out and all the corruption, all the pedophilia, all this other things. That's another that's like all of you are this. Just like all Mexicans are curtailing corrupt. That has to stop. It's getting hard out here though with everything. If we, you fall into traps, you see it on social media, especially all the time where, you know, whatever the given situation is, there's always just a mass labeling of everything. And, you know, it's not to be like fucking woke and be like, "We just have to love every single person." I just don't know what I'm saying, but like. Not love, but like, "Hey, travel. Go there." That's what you just said is the most important thing. Separate people from their governments and judge people on an individual basis as well. And that's, I do my best to do that and your advice about traveling and talking with people, that is the greatest place to start. It is the best investment in the world to travel. Like, if you can, you know, just go. If you're curious about some place, go. Maybe not some parts of the police go, but like other parts, you know, other parts you can go and I can recommend some spots. I had one of the most mine blowing. I do want to get down to Mexico. I haven't done that. Let's go. Whenever you want. Whenever you want. Whenever you want. Let me know where you want to go. Mexico City, Monterey. Go to hell. Even though go to hell these go. They're fine. Dejuana for the tacos. For the tacos. One of my mind-blowing experiences is going to Europe. It's like, I never been there. Last year I went to Switzerland. How was that? Mind blown, right? For people need to get my perspective. You know, Dejuana, where you can't flush the toilet paper in the toilet because it'll get stuck because of the two wing is all bad there. So you have to throw it in the basket next to the toilet. There's a giant river of sewer water going right through the city. Again, it's my city. I love it, but I can say that there's some parts of it that we could get better. Infrastructure is all over the fucking place. If you get shot, you go to the private hospital. Go to the public hospital. You don't want to go there. The private hospital. Yeah, you have to pay for a private hospital. It's it's bad. It's just bad. It's Mexico. But then you go to Switzerland and the quality of everything there. The look they gave me when I walked into a convenience store and asked them where the energy drinks were, they were like, ew. Why would you put that poison in your body? Yeah, like grab some of this fucking organic yogurt that we have like 50 options of, right? I'm not saying that we should all be for up or be Switzerland because you know, they probably hit some Nazi gold in those cases on them. We have to be honest about that. But you know what was funny to me is that I spoke Spanish mostly out there. And there's a lot of Spanish speakers there, or a lot of Europeans, it speaks Spanish because they have three or four languages. So I would speak English and I would speak English and they would be American. No, Mexico. Oh, Mexican. And they would should talk about Americans for like a salad. Well, it was like, whoa. But I, but I, but my daughter's American. Oh, I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, but like the anti-American is. We've done that to ourselves in some ways. For me, it was like wild to hear. Yeah. So like, I just put that Mexican flag patch on my back and I was treated differently. But as soon as they, they would come to conversation like, you're Mexico. Yeah. Oh, you have that, you have that, the casino, which is neighbor. Yeah, what neighbor? I got that a lot. It's an interesting perspective. How bad the reputation of this country is globally right now. And we're, how can you repair that? How can you repair that? You have to, it has to be long term actions on things, you know, not just starting a war that affects a bunch of other places with the reachableistic missiles versus us. You know, it has to be, you know, it's fine to negotiate and certainly make sure there's fairness and systems that maybe got out of whack, but like there's a, there's a way to do it. And there's a diplomatic way to do it. And then on the contrary, it's also like, I'm back to Biden's administration. And it's also like, have people in there where clearly they actually have some decision-making ability. And they're not just dead for four years. You know what I mean? Like, we've had a full gamut of just bad optics in leadership. Yeah. Obama wasn't a good president. No, he wasn't. Biden wasn't a good president. No. Trump, I'm waiting. He's not a good president right now. So, you know, I am, you know, again, like a parent. And then like I have a, like I have a stake in this now. And again, the whole aspect of this now evolving into both the vice president and the president openly talking about ground intervention. And whatever that means, you know, people should be being very close attention to us. And again, the democratization of warfare is in full swing. The democratization of warfare? Yeah. I could make a Shahid drone in my backyard that could be flown into a substation somewhere in California. And people are going to be very upset. That's right. And when the crew that chills up to fix it gets shot with another one. They're going to be very upset. That's right. And if you If you do that 20 times over, no golden dome is going to do anything and I'm not saying that Mexico was capable of doing that but it could put that together pretty quickly just like Ukrainians did because they already have people that know how to do that because guess who they're getting their drone technology and experience from the Ukrainians, right? That's why you're seeing a lot of this shit show up in Mexico, it's not an easy fight. It's not going to be an easy fight. The fights of the past or the US would show up with superior arrogance and just like level of place and no, this is the new world. You also have to be willing to take, it's fucked up to say this, but you have to be willing to take 15 to 20% wins where you use to try to go for 100% wins because also there's never been such thing as 100% win to be clear but that's what people would go for is what this country was built on going for forever and it's like an improvement is much better than no movement at all and it's not necessarily a loss. That mentality, you know, that requires some serious psychological shifts though in leadership. I mean, for me, a military victory for the United States is to continue its experiment. That would be the biggest military victory the United States could have and right now it's not doing that. Yeah, I just did three podcasts with Richard Bell, Jared Frederick and the great HW Brands is one of the greatest American historians to ever live all surrounding, you know, the Americas 250th and, you know, going through the history and where this experiment stands and all that and they all have different perspectives which is really cool but it just makes you appreciate. I'm Shannon Maldonado. I'm a professor at Artesan and I'm also a professor at Jaui Lakhjakaoban Perusta. I was also a shopkeeper at the beginning of my career and I was the first to help me with my career. 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For the longest time, I felt pretty horrible about it, all the shit that I had to do. I was stuck in it. I felt guilty about it, grew up Catholic. I went through some horrible shit and I did some horrible shit. I went through alcoholism. I was pretty horrible to the people around me around that time as well. Somehow, some way during that whole process, this beautiful girl showed up, you know, my kid. And she was loved, she's well-liked, she's class-bound, she's creative, you know. She's like snow white when she goes out of the house, all these birds form up because she keeps peeding and birdseed, so all these fucking birds show up when she goes out. There's no way in hell that that could have happened without all the bullshit, all that's part of it. So all the statue burnings and tearing down statues, trying to change history, trying to figure out, like, hey, we're not, we don't like this anymore, let's like get rid of this shit. I'd say, if I could figure something out, we'll be like, hey, let's all face the fact that we did a lot of horrible shit as a country, we did some fucking golf at Tonkin incident. - Not great. - And all this shit we did, you know, but let's, what comes next? - You can't change the past but you can move forward and learn from what you did wrong. - Yeah, that's why I say that the United States has a traumatized fucking country. We're all suffering from trauma. With where things are going, the dollar is still there. How long is that gonna be there? I don't know, people are talking about fucking cryptocurrencies and all this. You know, what to put your money in gold? It's a lot of it coming out from Venezuela now. So maybe that's gonna be, that's one of the issues why the United States was so interested in that to figure out how to stabilize itself with gold. - I get scared of these CBDCs, ideas. - Yeah, like, oh yeah, let's give the Fed and the fucking government control of digital currency and put in, you know, the road to hell with the social credit system, like, fuck that. - Yeah, well, that's, I think that specific thing you said is one afraid of Mexico's going that route. - They are. - I mean, biometrics. - Oh, the biometrics, if you don't do this, you can't get access to that and all that. That's horrible. Up here. I mean, again, you wanna see the positives that I see up here. That's, we're still far from that, I think, maybe. I mean, I could still get things and not have to worry about having to put my face and, and, and shit on stuff. Like, I could go to the grocery store and just pay in cash. That might be going away. It's scary. - It is, scary. - It is a scary time. And we've lived through multiple ones in a lifetime. - Yeah. - Aliens are real. - Maybe. I definitely think there are aliens out there to be clear. I just think that shit, they're telling us we're not supposed to shit. - That's not some weird shit. - Yeah, I'm proud. - He's also weird shit, where? - Yeah, in Mexico. - Where in Mexico? - Tijuana. - What'd you say? - Let's tell the story. This is a fucking weird story. I don't care. It's, it's fucking interesting. - Prefusing all this with, this time I was a raging alcoholic working double shifts. No, no breaks. I didn't go on vacation for about three years because I was essential. - Yeah. - We used to dress in civilian clothing and just like, you know, pretend to be drugs or deportees and hang out around sales points. Where people were selling drugs. And then try to grab 'em, you know, because they're pretty quick. In one of these cases, we got out of the car and we chased like four guys. Like in the office spread out. One of my friends ran after one dude and I just ran after him. Weird dude. Like a tall dude, leather jacket. Have you ever been on one of those, like at the airport where you walk on some of those belts? - Yes. - Where it goes faster. - And it's like, it does some weird shit to your mind. Where like people seem to be moving. So I had one of those feelings with this guy. He was like moving quicker than he should. And then he went up into this guy. - What, like just, like Superman? - He's levied here up into this guy. And I've seen a bunch of videos of these fucking flying people thing going on. Like with all this fucking revelation shit like, and like these almost like figures of people. And this guy, every seeing all this stuff in the. They might be fake. They might be weird. When I experienced that, I was in a fucking weird, fucking mental place. So I realistically did this day. I don't know if I was like fucking hallucinating or if it was like a fucking bad trip or something like that. The only thing that proves that this happened was that I turned around and my friend was looking up as well. - Oh shit. You ever talked to him about it after? - We couldn't say anything about it because if we got popped for anything psychological, we would get our guns taken away. Now, I couldn't have told that story in public in the past. But now that we are where we are, and there's like shit floating in the sky and we don't know what the fuck's going on. - That's all a flying person. - I saw somebody go straight up into this guy once. And again, I don't know if it was real or not. I don't know if it was maybe a wire. There's like Batman fucking, and I'll cock or pull them up into this guy. Or maybe I wasn't seeing something, right? I've doubted myself for years around that, but recently with it seeing all these fucking shit going on, I kind of went back to that event, I don't know. I am too of the opinion that there is something going on. It's pretty suspicious that it is being fucking being used and revealed that right now with all the noise going on in the background. - That is the noise, yeah. - I don't know. Also, it makes me think if it's a pretty good sideop, you know? - It's a great sideop. - How do you scare the Chinese? Hey, we have a UFO somewhere. - What? - We have a UFO somewhere that we-- - Integrity. - Something, maybe it's real. Some of those things display more drone-like capability. It's probably, some US government shit is going on out there. - Maybe they got from something extra direct. I could see that it's just like what they're giving us publicly like hey look at this That's where I know they're drawing us off the there's a lot of noise and again a lot of noise You know what was our version of that? There we go. Yeah, there was a giant devaluation of the peso and there's some shit going on like fucking con we was in the toilet And then we had the Chupa Cabras. The Chupa Cabra? Yeah, it's like Goat Sucker Like it was supposedly a green alien that was sucking goat's dry in the hills And there was a whole fear campaign around it. It was toys around it and chill like that. It'll Chupa Cabras I'll Chupa but well speaking of Cabra. I can't wait to see Tupa Cabras A little mini documentary of the story. You just told that's gonna hit hard on Twitter But shit a goat sucking alien Yeah, that's that's what they came up with down there for a while and it went away after the the political shit was went down So right so that makes me think about time Yeah, that makes me think about some of these things being science or not, but yeah, there's definitely some weird shit in the world Yeah, I like talking with the physicists about it the people that look at it based on whatever evidence scientifically they can find like My friend Dr. David Kipping who's over Columbia does an amazing job ahead of men for episode 358 and he you know He's looked at exoplanets this whole way, which is basically I'm oversimplifying this but finding planets They're extremely far away. I'm looking for intelligent life on them and when you consider just the tip of the iceberg of what we know about the Known galaxy and then consider that that is I don't have a mathematical number for you But know where near what the size of it actually is of course Out there and that's just how I put it as a layman of course there's intelligent life of course There's something else going on you know All the things that had to go right here from an environmental probabilistic evolutionary standpoint for us to be able to exist as we do on this planet or Make it a very small chance But when you then look at how big everything else is you know that had to happen in some form Somewhere else the question then becomes if they've been here, which I'm open to or whether or not There's some form of simulation with all of it which unfortunately I'm really open to you know We're just someone someone else's video game or something like I could see that. It's too easy. That's too easy It would be that's what I hope is the case It's it's too easy of an explanation But like I personally believe that had to be a creator that built all this because it's just fucking amazing But you know, I just try to separate I don't know I had some moments in here with certain guests where I was like wait a minute That's bullshit where you just try to separate like okay Who's coming out and saying things and what are they saying and when are they saying them and why Does that feel really weird and why is my gut doing a five or alarm fire so let's stay away from that And then let's talk to people like I said like the physicists who are like all right. They're looking at evidence here Yeah, you know zeros and ones yes, isn't knows maybe whatever and I don't know It's more fun for me to talk with those guys. Yeah, but the personal experiences are always I mean mind's mind's weird and Whenever I talk about it, which I don't regularly talk about is like I think it's the first time I spoke about it publicly I always preface it with like hey my my head injuries Fucking probably kind of drunk maybe because I was drinking before that night your buddy looking up though is interesting It keep these chills because you when you see something like that You're like nah, I didn't see that and it's a good way for your brain to like hey calm down Probably didn't see that but when you turn around your friends look up at this guy the same thing and he's like oh shit So again in the the only reason I brought it up is because we see these things like these people Up there like floating around and again, they might be a whole sigh up. I don't know Might be a whole sigh up and maybe maybe we're alone in the universe. We're special. God just made us Was that a fake picture of Trump the other day? I did zero homework on this. It was a fake Yeah, with the two blonde people that's not real right they had him like in the on the in the Rose Garden talking with two fucking Nordics Oh, yeah, there's a there's a Nordic this the Nordics the insectoids. Yeah, the grays There's some more the the real ones apparently like clouds. Uh-huh There's a lot of weed. Yeah, my my friend Max and who I see in in my gym every day is always asking me Come on man, you think this is real and I'm like max I feel like I'm telling Santa Claus. This is real with some of this but like at the same time So it's how the shit you're like you know they wouldn't tell us about this if they knew I mean maybe maybe men in black is based on Truth. Yeah, that whole on County Valley thing we have going on Like hey, you're not really human. I don't dude. I don't I don't know. That's another that's another thing like This this this there's a lot of noise around that Everywhere they they they brought in some of those mummies into Congress and in Mexico. Oh, yeah I just had a guy on about that. They looked like these The Nazca mummies. Yeah, but the one but the ones that the specific ones they brought in were like the worst version of those like they looked like Like Pianos. Yeah, Will Brown did an amazing job. He's been on that case like in person at the at the press conferences and stuff for years and you know Debunk the entire thing. Yeah, so I just on my end. I'm like there's a shit in a noise and whenever there is that much at noise Mexico Chupacabra's here The classification of the can't banana repellent Welcome to the donkey show Welcome to the donkey show, but you see a lot of that you're like, okay, so what are they trying to Get that UFO to what's behind that UFO? I don't know We went from Epstein to announcing aliens to a Ron to missing scientists To more aliens To more Ron problems to try to bury Epstein But what are they burying that way like yeah, it never ends. Yeah, it never ends It never ends well it it will in a few years and somebody else is gonna get elected And let's see what it's got to help us all It covered but it by the way, what was this you put this you just slid this right in here before we got on camera We were hanging out all morning and then right literally right before we press roll on the first episode you put up The La Santa Muerte yeah, and some Mexican a cult looking stuff. What's going on here? It's a death card. It's a death. It's a death card Yeah, you trying to make sure I'm dead. No, um, okay The you know what one of the one of the cultural differences between the US and Mexico are Mexican culture before the Spanish came with cyclical cyclical Yeah, it wasn't about good versus evil or the devil triumphant against God. There's no there's no fight against good versus evil It's a cycle People get really good. Everything gets really amazing people get complacent. The devil shows up things get fucked up We get destroyed strong people show up then we go back So We have a very strong Relationship to death We don't want to be immortal. We're not obsessed with youth not all of us, but most of us aren't there's a whole preparation for death This isn't about viewing it as a saint or thinking there's a fucking scout in the sky fucking doing enemy favors This is about having death present in your life. It's a philosophy. Mm-hmm actually comes from Catholicism in Mexico Even though they it turned into something else later The way I learned about it was through my mother She would say that death was an essential part of the miracle of the crucifixion. There is no You know ascension from the underworld for Jesus on the third day without death So you have to keep it present Um We have this tendency to view ourselves as special individuals and we don't realize that all of us have to die that things have to change That things have to go away that sacrifice is needed to be made and now this country has an obsession with youth Mm-hmm Epstein But realistically well when you see that when you see that at an exaggerate level. Yeah, that's what you get, you know Uh For me this is just a reminder that we're here for a while That we're here for that we're here for a for a short while that we don't have a lot of that we don't really have a lot of time To uh We don't really have a lot of time to stay here And that if you're not doing work or working towards leaving a better place than we got You're not really doing a lot That's what that means to me. So I'm always thinking about the message I'm always thinking about the end because I need to get things settled for what comes next You were telling me earlier and I remember we we had a nice talk last time you were here Where you know, we went through a lot of your personal story and and a lot of the hardships you went through and things like that and and your brother Die when you were 13 But you and I were talking off camera today when we were when we were eating lunch about a moment you had With your mom Yeah shortly after your brother died Where you walked up to the house and your mom was on the porch and smiled and then The smile went away because for a minute she had thought you were your brother. Yep, and you felt like that That that wanted to have that feeling you wanted your mom to have that feeling about you and correct me from wrong here But you were saying that put you on like a I forget the phrase you used, but something like-- That was my lightning strike. Yeah. Like all of us have one of those, I think. Well, at least the cool ones that I've met over the years have had a moment like that. But the way you were explaining it almost felt like you were saying it gave you a kind of death wish so that you could have that feeling about you. My middle brother, Eric, was amazing. It was a promise, one, you know? His funeral was like a concert. Shit ton of people showed up. I ran away a little bit after that whole event because my mom went kind of psychiatric. And at one point, I decided to go back home. And as I made my way into the street light in front of my house, she looked at me with excitement. And I thought, oh, she's excited that I came back. And then disappointment. And I realized that she thought it was an operation of my brother. Yeah, that led me into like, oh, let me figure out how to die in the most epic way possible. They finally paid attention to me, I guess. Was my twisted lightning strike that I got that moment. And I went, I ended up in such a place and such experiences that I'm not here talking to, you know? It put me on a path. For me, and again, part of the meaning behind that and the cyclical nature of that, I wanted to die epically somewhere or die somewhere. I didn't have the balls to do it myself or I didn't see that as powerful enough. So I chose to go into a weird career path that would put me on a pretty clear way of doing that. The bullets missed, you know? I was never the guy, a few times I was pretty close. - You wanted to be? - Yeah, I was looking for it for years. I had this whole concept of dying at 33, you know? Before 33, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna kick it somehow. - Jesus here or Freemason here? - Jesus here. - Okay, that's good. - I had a plan and everything. I was gonna tie myself with a chain to my truck and drive it into a reservoir if I didn't manage to do it anyway. Didn't happen that way. I shit done a stuff happen that was contrary to that and specifically my daughter being born. Was the main thing that happened? - That's awesome. - Yeah, once your heart is out of your chest and walking around, you need to stay, I think. So I had to do, and I'm still doing a lot of work on myself to try and, you don't realize how many self-destructive ways you have, you know? One is your job is one way of being self-destructive. The food you eat, the alcohol you consume, the drugs you take, the women you frequent. All of these are ways of killing ourselves. And usually at the bottom of all that is a self-hatred, which I've had for years after that event that I had with my mom. - Do you think you've gotten rid of that? - No. - It's still very much there. Or is it diminished at least? - It is being sown together, I think, by two things. My daughter's helping me heal that because she's about to go through the 13s and the teens. So my whole mindset is, I don't want her to repeat when I had to go through. So I'm being present, I'm doing everything I can for whatever generational curses I had with me to be chained to me and to be drowned with me when I leave and not be passed on to her. So that's one aspect of it. - Like mentalities on life? - Yeah, like being present, you know, being positive about shit, not being paranoid all the time, I'm changing some of that aspects, focusing on her education, putting her into like sports and like figuring her life out in a better way and cutting out alcohol, which has been a ginormous weight on my family for generations. - Congrats on that. What are you five, six years old? - Five years, that's awesome. Shout out to my sponsor, Randy, Leadsinger of Lamb of God is my sponsor. - Shout out, Randy. - Randy is the best fucking sponsor in the world. He's talked me down so many times. But I know it's sobriety, he's not for everybody. Like I get it, like drinking, fuck, I remember it, man. I wasn't a drinker, that would drink like, "Hey, let's have some whiskey," and I was like, "Hey, it was a good talk to you. "Go to my house and drink like a 12-pack "or maybe half a bottle of mezcal and taste. "Go into the dreamless sleep stage "was my favorite thing to go into." - Dreamless sleep stage. - Drunk sleep is no dreams. That's what I was always running after. And basically I put a pause button on all my dreams for years, which is not good for your mental health, apparently. - No, no. - So when I finally let that go, I had all of them show up at once. That's pretty fucking wild, right? The whole aspect of death in my life is you can have many deaths in one life. People think it's like a destination. It's not. What's the only eternal thing you can experience in this simulation that we're in? Now, it's always gonna be now, presence. So that's one. How many times can you die in one lifetime? Shit done. Dude, I haven't really invented myself like four times already. And it's not easy. Death shouldn't be something you fear. It shouldn't be. You wanna meet it on your own terms. You don't want it to show up suddenly. You don't wanna walk in traffic or anything like that. But death shouldn't be viewed as a pursuing predator behind you. Death shouldn't be viewed as a destination you're dreading. It should be something next to you. - Next to you. - Yeah, reminding you, you're gonna die, enjoy, enjoy it. - And how do you enjoy it right now? Being present, you know? And that's the philosophy behind that. People have taken that and turned it into a whole myriad of shit. And I gave a statue that had a drug load inside of it way back when that I found to Sean Ryan. It was empty by then. But it just gave it's cool souvenir. And I think he shot it with a rifle because of a Christian guy he had on. He said it was demonic. All the alcohol bottles behind it weren't demonic, but that statue specifically was kind of, he said it was demonic. He shot it, which is fine. This is the fucking statue. Like it doesn't mean anything. But all those alcohol bottles behind the statue were way more costly for people. So I found that interesting that was kind of separate. There's in my life, I think. Yeah, death has been very present in my life. And the more I ran from it, or the more I kind of like, try to skirt it or fear it or like look away, the worse it got for me. So once I accepted it, it's funny. The samurai talk about it. You know, most warrior cultures talk about it. It's something that's been with us forever. You know, there's always this momentum of what he, or just being realizing that death is essential. Would you say you fear or don't fear death at this point? I fear a purposeless life. A purposeless life? Well, you haven't lived a purposeless life, so I think you're in good shape. And through that, that's how I venerate life. Interesting. And there is no life without death though. That's right. So that's the yin and the yang, right? Yeah, the secret is, the secret of the yin and the yang is that they are both the same. I think that's my personal at least philosophy with these. You know, I look at a full picture of all the things you've done though, and the mentality that at one point you had, like I gotta go out in a ball, lightning, and all that. And yet all the situations you were in, where you could have just taken one step to the left and said, "I'll let that one hit me." That's bad ass. There's something in the way you tried, but the way you think about it is you're trying, but something in you was a survivor too. Yeah. Isn't that fascinating that you could think one thing, and while actively thinking that, act the other way, and now here you are, and you have a daughter, your father, like your life is as an importance that is even beyond the stuff you were doing in so many ways. Yeah. The biggest thing, like I talked to people that went through shit all the time. I had a pretty amazing conversation with Eddie Gallagher for example. Shout out Eddie. Eddie is an amazing man. An amazing, you know how I know he's amazing? His family. His family's awesome. Yeah. There's no way to fake that. That's how you, that's, and whenever I ask people, like, "Hey, you wanna judge me?" Meet my kid and ask her what she thinks about me, right? With everybody that I met that gone through some shit, how did he shit? I always, I always compare notes. was like, Hey, how do you deal with it? Um, um, um, there's always this, um, sadness and a lot of us. This feeling that we've missed out or that we are not going to get to have something that we see around us all, all, all the time, which is people taking everything for granted. You know, it's fucking walking through life, fucking eating whatever they want, fucking doing horrible shit to other people, just being self-centered, fucking just being these narcissistic monsters. Uh, and they win in life sometimes, you know, and people like us that actually did something with our lives that went and fought in battles and wars that were not our own, but that's what we went after. We sacrificed a lot and we didn't come back complete. There is an amputation and violence that happens and there's a chemical change in violence that happens and a lot of us don't come back the same. A lot of us do not come back the same. And we expect the worst of the world because we've seen it. So like, um, one thing I used to have a lot still every now and then I get it. I'm in a good place. I'm at peace. I'm in a birthday celebration with these people that I, I, I love. And then I'm smelling burnt flesh because I walking into a room where somebody just got fucking burned alive, um, in some horrible place on in in my past. So it is like a time tunnel. You go back and forth and it is difficult to kind of move through. Um, and somewhere in that is the self-hatred that you get from it. Self-hatred because you were there or because my issues are affecting people around me and I'm bear, I'm, I'm unbearable. There's something wrong with me. Uh, you isolate, you use drugs, you drink, you, there's a bunch of ways we figure out how to self-sabotage. And yeah, you're suicidal one day and you're like, okay, I'm done with that. I don't want to kill myself. Why are you eating like shit, though? Oh, oh, that's, oh, let me get rid of that. Why are you going after all these horrible women? Why are you living that way? Um, you know, you asked me like, you think I've got ridden of it, like a rid of this self-destructive thing. I think I'm, I think I'm in a room right now where I've seen how it could be, uh, in my life. I met an amazing woman that's always usually women that kind of pull you out of that. She ain't that funny. Uh, completely opposite of me. Mm-hmm. She's horrified about all this. She's horrified. She's like, all of this, um, she, uh, she has put a mirror up to my face, a kind mirror. Mm-hmm. It's hard to see the realities of who you are and like, like, what, what I'm known for and all the things that I do, do it. I'm a nerd, you know, I like going to my house and just reading a book or watching the Lord of the Rings expanded, expanded version, you know, uh, I'm not into any of this war fighting shit. I don't, I don't, I'm not into that. Every now and then I get asked to go to a gun range, you know, like shooting, I'm not into it, man. I'd rather, I don't know, I'd rather go to the beach and walk, walk, walk my girlfriend's dog there or something, you know, that's, I don't, that's not, I'm not after any of that. Um, there's, there's a, there's a painting behind me, which reminds me of where I'm at, you know, I don't want to go to heaven, wherever, wherever Maximus wanted to go to, but I've always had this vision. And this vision is of me drowning in a pool of water holding onto all the chains that I've brought myself in throughout my life. And instead of handing them to my daughter, I just hug them with me and I just go into the water. And I think that would be a good ending. Um, a lot of this shit that we think is special or individual to us, like, I had no, nobody's ever gone through this. Like, look at how fucked I am. Like a, if you go back one, two members of your family, it's the same thing. We're just repeating it over and over again. Oh, yeah. I came from that, and I just don't want to repeat it anymore. And dude, fresh starts. Um, you can get them, you can get second chances, you can get a new life. And again, death is always present, but you can die a lot of times in life. And I think that's where I'm at. I'm, uh, I'm going through uh, another resurrection. Um, it's a good way to put it. You know what, though, you've made, you've clearly made some amazing decisions in your life at multiple points to make a turn in the road. Yeah. And I think you deserve a ton of credit for that because that's a lot of times that's the hardest part because that you got to get right on the other side of that. It could be something like, you know, you went through alcoholism and came off the other side of that. I'm sure the beginning of that sucked as horrible. It's your body is just like fighting back against itself. You want to die. Yeah. But like, I think the, I'm always so amazed by the ability of people withers alcohol or a drug or something like that to then be finally have a moment where they're like, no more. And then they get through that hard part and then it gets slightly easier and slow, but it's slightly easier because they earn it. And that's, that's the mental fortitude to do that is never lost on me. I think that's awesome. And like, you know, you've gone through so much and so much personal trauma and seen so much shit. Like, you can never delete that hard drive. But to see you in a place where like you survived all of it, you did a lot of things where you made sure you pulled yourself up to survive on it, which is a great example for everyone, not the least of which is your daughter. And like, you have multiple purposes in your life, like being a father and, you know, someone that that, like you said, is taking the chains of the things that you've brought up and trying to bury them with you so that it's not passed on. I think that's like, what's a better legacy than that? And well is the best legacy you can have, which is like where the holy debt come from. Yeah. What does this say on the back, by the way? This is like, it's all in Spanish. It says, "Rasión a la Santa Morte del Trebajo." Yeah. The holy death of work. So people think that the holy death is like its independent thing. The holy death comes from people praying for a good death. And actually, one of the places where that actually originated was a mining town in Sacatecas, where people would go into mine shafts and they didn't know if they were going to come out. And they prayed for a holy death. Somewhere in the mixture of that, it turned into praying to the holy death. So that's where it comes from. Again, it's Catholic. It was venerated inside of a Catholic church in Sacatecas for 200, 300 years. Somewhere in the 2006 era, a bishop came to the town, saw the statue and said, "This doesn't need to be in here." And kicked it out and it led to it being a forbidden saint. And if you want to make something popular in Mexico, you make it forbidden. That's nature. And currently, it is one of the most popular faith practices, not only in Mexico, but here in the United States. Now, there is also, I don't think I talked with you about this last time, but I've talked with Sheriff Matt Thomas about it. I think I talked with Dave Frank about it as well, because they've seen it. But there's also this very weird culture within the cartels, where they bastardize religion, basically the Catholicism into the occult. Yeah. So a few things there, which I'm like the implied you brought this up, because I am way into all of that. Oh, yeah. For no other reason than, again, I'll repeat this. I don't believe that there's a skeleton in this guy doing me favors, like a genie, right? Which is the belief that a lot of people in this, in that realm have. I know personally that the lady that keeps the giant, holy death altar in Mexico city, Duñaceta, amazing lady, Catholic, very Catholic. But she has this death statue that a lot of people show up there and give candles to. She is a community leader. She pays for a lot of operations and people just lives getting better in the area. She's a community leader. She's an amazing woman. She gets vilified by people because she represents a faith practice that a lot of marginalized people go to and a lot of the people in the cartels are marginalized people. So that's not justifying what they do. That's just realizing why they why they gravitate towards a forbidden scene. Sure. Most of the people that I've met and most of the high-level cartel members that I've seen, El Mancio, Catholic, los chapitos, Catholic. Most of the other high-level cartel guys out there, very Christian. So the marginalized occult stuff like that you see are on the bottom side of that of that scale. But most of the leadership that I've seen are not praying to to weird death deities or demonic entities. - The Christian. One of the things that'll mention left behind was a whole book of prayers that he would write. He was very Catholic. So he doesn't fit that-- - How can he really be Catholic though? - I mean-- - Cognitive dissonance to an extent that I can't even comprehend in a human mind. - But he had a small altar to Malverde, not Malverde, to St. Jude in his little space. - St. Jude, like the scene of-- - Son Hula kids? - Son Hula's, yeah, "San Jude." In Mexico, San Jude is the last state you pray to because you might get Hula's in there. That's why they, that's the last, that basically a patron saint of lost causes. - Yeah, now that's interesting, the symbolism there. So he had a saint who's, as you said, patron saint of lost causes but is known very much with pediatric serious sicknesses. - He was sick, I love it. - He was sick, but hold on a minute. I'm just playing with this live. I've never heard this before. - Yeah. - His life went the wrong way. He became a violent man, was responsible for killing a lot of people, moving a lot of drugs, doing a lot of things that affects all populations, including kids. But for the sake argument, let's say it's an adult's game. - Yep, okay. - But in his Catholicism, in his private life, and in an alter that he would make for himself, or he would go try to, I guess, make right for whatever sins he then would continue to do in his life, the symbolism he chose was a saint that represented kids who are supposed to be pure and young and, you know, have hope for a better life. - Yeah. - There's a lot going, I need to, I need to ask someone who's actually a psychologist to look at that, but there's a lot going on there. And Mexico, San Cudas is the last saint you pray to because you might get Judas in your prayers. So like, that's why they avoid him. And in some of the more underground cultural things, there's actually a belief that depending on what side hand he's holding his staff, it could be Cudas, like Judas, Esquadiot, or it could be Saint Judas. So it's just a whole thing. He's one of the most popular saints in Mexico. And one of the most popular saints amongst cartel members. So I understand how sensational and attention-raving it is when you see holy death pray to by the cartels. The leadership are usually Catholic. - Right. - But it's interesting, the under guys. - The marginalized people who are poor, desperate, who probably got some issues with the church. - They pray the devil of cold, if you will. - They will look for intermediaries. One of the biggest growing faith practices in Mexico, holy death is one of them. And when I say holy death, the people praying to death, like a genie that will grant them protection when they go into dangerous shit is one side of it. But the vast majority of it are just like Catholic ladies and women and people who just view it as like, oh, culturally, I learned this through my parents. And I have death present. And it is something that I find comfort. And then I have to worry about anything. But hey, I have a relationship with death. What am I worried about dying? It's fine, right? So you see an aspect of that, but also you see the dark aspect. There is a fucking dark aspect to some of these practices. There's three places where some of these come from. And number one, one of the first signs of this narco occultism that we saw in Mexico was through a guy they called el narco satanico, the narco satanic guy. Constantio was his last name. Can't remember his whole name right now. But he was basically somebody that brought Afro-Caribbean faith practices with him. Nah, that guy. Cool hair, by the way. Great hair. Yeah, figure that cut out, I guess. With the more. It's like that 80s thing going on. 80s, 90s thing. He got cut up because he ordered his cult to abduct a kid from Texas who was on spring break or something like that. And he needed his brain to feed his Brenda. His brain? His brain. So a Brenda is something within the Apollo faith practices that come from Afro-Caribbean faith practice in Africa, basically. They believe that you can house a spirit or a dead, a spirit of the dead within these cold runs that they have. And if you feed it, it will grant you things. This is a faith practice that was brought into Mexico, probably somewhere in the 50s and 60s. And it has been growing like underground for years. You hear a lot about Santa Marta. It's very in the public. It's out there. People venerate with statues and they do these processions. It's not a cult thing. It's not a cult itself in the open. This Apollo stuff and this some Afro-Caribbean blood and sacrifice thing is underground. A lot of celebrities in Mexico have ties to it. It does believe-- and again, I'm just speaking about what's been going on out there. There have been a lot of people in the celebrity world in Mexico who have been revealed to be practitioners of this and have been tied to blood sacrifices and human sacrifice, shit. A lot of these cauldrons that you find out there have bones inside of them and human bones. And you might get them from a cemetery or from a grave robber, but some people get them from their enemies. When you talk about some of the occult or darker stuff out there, I think that's what most Americans are talking about. You see the Santa Marta stuff. It's iconography. It is out there. Yeah, there's some dark stuff around there. But some of the Afro-Caribbean stuff, the Santería, the Apollo stuff, that's what the cartel guys are believing in. Not that that's a low level. Right, right, right. That's like old mothers. Yeah, dark, dark stuff. Things that you feed with blood. Things that you feed with violence. Things that are there to give you money. And again, when you talk about these things, you start seeing a lot of the word demonic comes up right now. Absolutely. And they're in their cosmolition. They see every entity as something essential. So they don't have that belief system, but they do view it as dark and white magic. So there's magic magic that is not going to hurt anybody. It's just going to benefit me. Like I need help with my health. Oh, that's white magic. I need to need help with my health. So I'm going to sacrifice this young animal. Or I'm going to do this horrible shit here as a sacrifice. So you give me health and that's dark magic. So there's that distinction out there. And again, these are conversations that I have with these. I go and visit all of these places. I visited an altar in De Pito where they have a giant bafflement outside of it. Oh, Jesus. It's like a giant golden bafflement statue out there. And again, you can fear that shit and just been not go there. Or you can say like anything you fear gets power over you. It's my philosophy. I think you're right about that. So I went there and I was like, what is this about? I talk to the guy that runs it. And he's exactly who you would imagine would be running that one. That's it right there. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's in De Pito. And there's loads of people to go and visit and put candles up there. If you try to do any Westboro Baptist shirt shit there or try to fucking do something there. They'll kill you. Yeah. But it is faith practice. It is. There's that's demonic. And that is demonic in the sense that that's what they pray to you with devil. Now are they doing human sacrifices or doing any occult shit? It's in the open. So what? It's in the open. It's not occult. It goes against the word occult because it's in the open. So, but the people that are trying to hide some of this shit or some of the older blood sacrifice, the youth veneration, live forever, drawing wealth. And that goes across the political spectrum, across the social spectrum. You get politicians in there, you get you get cartel members in there, you get celebrities in there. There's that. I think there is a dark occult scene in Mexico, but people looking at it through the public death alter or this funny statue in a corner in a kid that walks out with sigils on his face, tattooed. He's in the open, that's not it. Is it demonic? Is it bad? Perspective, I guess, people have their own belief systems. I just view it as if you fear it, it has power over you. It's like a curse. The thing that I've heard from most of these people that practice these type of stuff is they say, if the person you're cursing doesn't know their curse, the curse doesn't work. So, what you give power to. Yes. There's a big, big lesson in that, a lot of things. Yeah. So, in my life, you know, I try not to burn like effigies or like fucking, get freaked out or don't touch it or because as soon as you start doing that, it owns you. Yeah. I am curious and I need to have educated opinions about things and that means that I have to talk. too many type of people from all walks of life. When I give you an opinion about Mexico, I have some of that opinion is formed by speaking to people that might share different faith practices than I do. Sure. And they're not going to think I'm cool or not trustworthy unless I go to them with some of these weird ass places. Yeah, it's just fascinating whenever you're talking about someone in like an extremely dangerous violent organization with a lot of death drugs and everything, like the cartels, and you talk about any form of religion, whether it's like a, I don't know, bastardization of it with like a cult type shit or the guy's like El Mencho who actually think they're like a real Catholic. I don't know, the psychology, like I was saying earlier, the psychology there is what really is just like, I feel like you could do a lot of good studies on that if you talk with those guys, you know. And again, it's sensationalistic and it looks evil with like, I mean, a skull, the cats, it's scary, but you know, go to Italy and see some of the fucking churches they have out there covered in them. Go to the church of San Pancreasian where they have them like standing like a skeleton standing with armor and it's witchery. It's like some of these things are wild. There's a lot of bones and dead saints in fucking rooms that they pray to in Catholicism. So like it's it's weird for them to be kind of critical about some of that. But for me, it's like the intention behind shit. Yes. A lot of these cartel members, your intention is salvation and desperation. Salvation and desperation. Yeah. They're doing things that they know are going to put them into the rec line to hell and they're looking for salvation before they go. So a lot of them build churches, a lot of them, you know, pay for schools and roads and a lot of them are turning to Robinhood characters for the same reason. So the desperation is that they know it could end at any moment because of the world. They're in the life that they've chosen. So they feel like in this moment, if I can do something good, I will. And the salvation is that they feel like it's a tit-for-tat trade kind of game. So all right, I killed those five fucking guys, but I just built a road in a school. So that cancels that Jesus. And I know a lot of people out there want to have them like, nah, man, they're going to go into back room and there's going to be a big devil statue. I've seen that up here. I haven't seen that up down there realistically. There's a lot more like closeted satanic shit. I think up here than there was other. We've got three million emails and counting that certainly shows some of that for sure. And I don't think we can talk here. Yeah. Well, that's what we're saying. All of all, all I say is that it's not a cult if it's in the open and all of this shit is in the open. Yeah. The truly occult stuff is what happens. You behind closed doors amongst the powerful, the rich, the elite. And that's not like, it's not the more than all that shit. That's poor people shit. It's marginalized people shit. When you talk about some of what they believe, you know, we want to talk about a demonic institution. There's like a big church in Mexico who was behind a lot of people smuggling and rapes that are doing a lot of shit down there. That's that's one of them. What church is that? Luz del Mundo, I think the light of the world and I'm not. Oh, the light of the world. Yeah. I think that's one of them. The organization's out there. And again, I might be wrong about it, but they have a shit done of investigations. I think their leader was in prison here in the US or is in prison. All right. So we'll say pure spec, but certainly not looking good. Here it is. United States Attorney's Office Southern District of New York. Miss So can I just read the headline. Perfect. Miss Sohn, Joaquin Garcia charged with bracketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking and child exploitation of members of La Luz del Mundo Church, United States Attorney for Southern District of New York, Jay Clayton, Special Agent Charges in New York Field Office of Homeland Security investigation, Richard Patel, and Special Agent Charges in New York Field Office of Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation. Harry T. Chavez announced the unceiling of indictment against Nassin Joaquin Garcia and a bunch of other fucking people with all those charges. I just read as alleged in the indictment and defendants engaged in a racketeering enterprise and exploited the LL DM church have persisted for decades to facilitate the systemic abuse of children and women, including creation of photos and videos of sadistic CSAM for decades. The Joaquin LL DM enterprise operated for sexual gratification of Nasson and his father, the former leader of the Joaquin Enterprise got generational fuck upery. So that is your occult in Mexico. Yeah. That is your occult in Mexico. For me, at least, like I get it, demon statues, but they're in public. And this is what's going on in the back. And also they had a public event in Mexico recently and they're churches still there and they support more in that. So they got to live with themselves. It's just you see all the victims that get quite up and shit like this. That's the stuff that is horrible. For me, it's like again, Mexico is a weird country. Our spirituality in Mexico comes from a cyclical nature. We don't believe in good and evil at a base level. It is cyclical. Right. Right. And again, Catholicism changed that we had the Spanish come in. The difference between the US and Mexico was that the Spanish intermingled. Interming. Yeah. The Spanish married into society in Mexico. All right. Whereas in the US, they didn't necessarily marry the Native Americans. They exterminated a lot of the Native. That's interesting. So when you, it goes into the, you know why the Moderna party is name Moderna? Yeah. It's probably has something to do with the fact that the Virgin of Guadalupe, the most venerated saint in Mexico and a lot of Latin America is brown. At some point when the conquest happened, you know, people want to say like, I'm Aztec. Aztec was a tribe of nomads from Utah that made their way into the Central Valley of Mexico. The original Mormons. Yes. Yes. Exactly. And, you know, they weren't like a lot of people want to make them out as being these peace-loving people. The Aztecs. Yeah. Aztecs. That sacrifices are that the human sacrifices weren't real that something the Spanish invented. No, like there's evidence. There's no kids in the cages. There's evidence of human sacrifices all over the place. But again, own it. Like I own it. Culturally, I realize that's in my culture and I realize that's part of who I am. There's no that I don't have any issues with it. I think at some point when that conquest happened, somebody decided to say like, Hey, we need to put up an image of the Virgin. So these these natives will pray to it. But if we make it look too white, they're going to be like, who is this? Right. Right. So when you see the you pull up an image of the Virgin of Guadalupe, you'll see a brown native woman wearing a black sash around her waist, which is which is something that the Aztec women would wear to it to signify that they were pregnant. So instead of having a baby in her arms, her baby's inside. She's promising life. Interesting. She's standing on top of a crescent moon because the spanishes came from the conquest of the Muslim conquest there. So they were, she's standing on the Muslim crescent moon. She's standing. She's a victorious over the Muslim. What does that have to do with Mexico? Nothing. The Spanish influence and coming coming in. She's being held up by a cherub that has eagle wings. If you go back into yeah, there she is. That cherub on the bottom is an interesting add on because those fiery wings are of an eagle, not of a dove that you would normally see on a cherub. There's a there's an origin story within Aztec religion where they say there was a mother goddess, what liquid, who found a feather on the ground while she was cleaning the holy temple, stuffed it in her sash and she became pregnant. The moon, her daughter and the stars, her sons were like, Hey, you can't have another kid. We're the most important ones. They show up for a war. The war god, which he leposly gets born fully formed. That's what's liquid. That's who is probably behind the image of lebedican culturally. That's actually like pretty wild. Yeah. So that's in our culture. So if people want to understand Mexico, they first have to understand that we come from thousands of years of cultures and there was a lot of things going on spiritually in that area, but we come from a cyclical culture. That's in our DNA. So that's at the behind everything. The Morena party called themselves Morena in a very smart way because they took an image or a symbol that is at the center of our culture, which is the beacon of what a loop is, which we sometimes call La Morenaita, the brown one, as a term of endearment. And think about it, we have a female at the center of a spiritual practice in Mexico. It's not Jesus. It's lebedican. That's how they sold it to us. Sacred feminine. That's a difference. That's a cultural difference. And what's the shadow of the sacred feminine death? So when you go into the holy death altar, you see people dragging themselves with a big statue, proving their devotion through physical exertion. And when you go to the celebrations of La Bica and the Guadalupe, you see people dragging themselves with a big statue, going through physical exertions. They are mirrored each other. So it's a duality, I think, realistically. A cultural duality. That's so fascinating. But again, when you talk about the occult shit, the stuff that people should be worried about, "Luz del Bundo." Oh, yeah. That's why-- And then, obviously, like we were saying here, there's something-- It's offensive in all its forms when Satanism occurs and awful victims are brutalized. It's awful in all its forms. There is something extra sick about it when it's the most elite people in society who make all the rules that we don't get the phone on, by the way. For everyone, that just offends me to my core. Yeah. And again, there's practitioners of all faith practices are evil and good. That's right. That's absolutely right. There's a lot of people who are paledos. And I know a lot of them. My friend, Gonejo, the rapper, Gonejo Shadot Gonejo, former enemy of mine, and now we're friends. He's a palero. Great guy. I have no issues with him. His practice is pretty cool to look at. And again, culturally, that's my thing. I'm not from that area, but to cool. I have a lot of Christian friends who call me demonic and tell me that I am into devil craft and all this type of shit. And I'm like, OK. But also, I like the Bible. I like Jesus. I'm all about it. I have the seal of Saint Benedict on my arm to keep the devil away. I have-- That's cool. I have the first actorcism on my arm. I mean, look, maybe I'm too simple. Maybe I'm just a people person. But my whole thing is, I don't like for a stone from class houses or judge people on things that I don't know, and they don't know either. For my own personal beliefs, I do believe, like I said earlier, there's a God that created all this. And I think I'm going to have to humbly face that someday when I'm not here. So when I'm here, I try to do the most good. I can and treat people well. And so I judge people on how do they treat other people. And what do they do? And how do they leave the world a better place than it was? Like, I think that's-- I don't-- maybe I'm oversimplifying it. And I'm certainly not the judgeor of how things should go. But I feel like that's a pretty calm way to live your life. I'm pretty anti-state. I move around a lot. I like making people smile and laugh and help people out. I give away a lot of shit. I think you're right. I live a pretty Christ-like life. Yes. And I've taken communion recently. I took communion while my business was open. My friend Proud showed up. It's my pastor. And I don't consider myself a traditional Christian. And I'm like, I've been through some shit. I'm more of a Peter type guy, you know? Can I read? I can read that, sure. But any faith practice or any spiritual practice that makes you feel superior to other people or special or supremacist of any kind to me is wrong. Any faith practice that makes you feel justified enough to criticize or go and demand shit from another faith practice, that that's bad. All that is horrible and bad and completely un-Christ-like. Yes. I agree completely, man. So that's what I look at. I always look at the witnesses around the people that I'm meeting to see who they are if I can. And I don't judge. And everybody's a product of their environment. I have no idea where everybody comes from and what their fucking experiences are. All I can tell is how good they treat other people. And where they put themselves in a room. If they put themselves with it back into the room, they are king. And they don't want to get stabbed in the back. If they put themselves in the middle, they want attention. But if they move around, that's what I want to talk to you. Well, I would stay on that normally, but we've been talking for so long. And there is one thing I got to hit before you and I both got to get out of here. And that is coming back to the El Mencho thing. So we talked about this a little bit in the first episode. This is the second episode now. But we talked about the context of like shine bomb. And when she was informed of the operation, that whole thing was weird. And the context of like we never got to see his body or anything like that. That's a little weird too. How we died is still up for debate as to what it was. But the other weird thing is I had Katarina Schultz in here right after it happened. She was there at the video of it. The saw video is of her like holding bullets and shit like that in here. Oh, she's it. So can't we'll go get it. But it looked ed. It looked the scene looked weird. So what do you think? I'll ask you this. Does it make sense to leave behind the biggest treasure trove of information you could ever find in like dude, the meant the head of the new generation cartel left his leisure there. All this document does it make sense for the special forces to show up there? Okay, we're done. Side exploitation. What is that? I don't know what that is. Side exploitation is a military term. It means going to a site that has intelligence and you exploit it, you bring phones, putting in a bag, fairer, we used to do that at our level. Like anything that had writing on it, receipts, the garbage with the toilet paper, fuck it, take that to them. There might be a receipt in there that couldn't tell something about whatever the fuck is happening here. Everything was left. Everything. And then some of the like the windows were in place. They were random shells that were in the wrong spot. Like it was so so from what I get, from it is they just want to be done with it. They just want to bury this shit. They just want to be done with it. There is no way in shape or form that any of that documentation can be utilized in any sort of legal case against anybody. Even within with members of the military that might have been on to some of those measures, there's nothing you can utilize in that space because it was violated by all the people that went into that room, including your friend that went in there and picked up all those bullets. She basically nullified any sort of effort that you could have to say like, hey, I found this notebook here and then has this name of this politician in here. We want to build a case against. Well, was it there? Did somebody put it there? Right. And they let it like that. That was the thing was a few days later and they just left it. Yeah, well, for her to go, it like is very strange to me. I think what I perceive of it is that there was official support and protection of him and it just became too expensive to maintain. And they went in there and they probably shot some of their own while that were protecting El Menchu. And then they got a pretend that they didn't. And maybe because it was a fight. There was a bird that burnt fucking. Yeah, that much was clear. There was something. And it is very weird to leave all that shit just behind unless you're just one of fucking be done with it. Which I think this is where we are. There might have, there were definitely people on the ledger that were being paid for protection. Very little money. Some of them. It was just pretty weird to kind of see. And also you could see how much he was paying his guy to whatever. But it was a very hard operation. It was very hurried. They were in a rush. They just wanted to be done with it and extract the body and not have it being rescued. And I understand why they do shit like that. The last time you saw the photography of a cartel member's body. The family members of one of the unit guys that was killed in that operation got murked during a funeral. So the military probably learned their lesson as far as showcasing bodies. So I can see why they might have not shown the body. I don't see why they would leave so much action on the intelligence behind. I don't see why the president of Mexico would be out and about in a social setting while this was happening. Those are the things that stick out in my mind as like question marks. Well, you keep looking on those. The next time you're in here, we'll have more answers. I'm sure. But hopefully. Dude, it's been great to spend the day with you. And as always, amazing stuff. I love bringing you in here. I'd love to bring in next year when some more shit's going down. But the work you do is amazing. Your life story is amazing. And I'm really glad you're here and in a great mental space as well. And I hope that continues. I'm about to go walk on the shores. It's a beautiful place here. And I think it's a beautiful day. So this is where I'm at now. Thank you so much for the invitation. Of course, of course. And thank you so much for coming. So everyone go follow Ed. We'll have the links down below. You also got some of the coolest cameras in the whole podcast industry as well. I'm jealous of that. But yeah, we'll definitely do this again. Viva Mexico and Viva Estados Unidos. Somos hermanos. Bravo. Gracias. Well, that's a tie, but we'll go with that. Anyway, been a long day. Everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought. Get back to me, peace. Hey, guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you. [MUSIC PLAYING] All new drinks are now at McDonald's, with refreshers like the Strawberry Watermelon refresher and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba to crafted sodas, like the Sprite Berry Blast, with berry flavors and cold foam. Refreshers contain caffeine.