Nino Breeze Breaks Down "OMERTÁ" Mixtape, "Type A N***a", Rick Ross, MMG, St. Pete (Full Interview)
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The artist reflects on his journey in hip-hop, emphasizing the cultural and emotional significance of ad-libs like "y'all," which he uses to maintain authenticity and flow. He highlights the viral success of his song "Type of Nigga," attributing it to creative content on platforms like TikTok and Instagram, especially through fan-driven videos. Rosé’s active promotion played a crucial role in its global reach. He shares a personal connection to Young Scooter, mourning his passing and acknowledging their collaboration as a milestone. The artist is critical of AI in music, believing it undermines the emotional and human core of the art form. He discusses his new project, "Mirtha," named after the Code of Silence, which explores moral responsibility in street life and personal integrity. Inspired by a birthday party in St. Pete, the project features original production, deep lyricism, and strong features. The track list was carefully sequenced to maintain energy and showcase versatility, with "Tavernu" as his personal favorite. The project is a testament to his growth, authenticity, and commitment to staying true to his roots while evolving as an artist. He remains grounded in real-life experiences and community values, viewing music as a spiritual and personal expression.
Now at this point, what genre of music do you consider yourself?
Rap, rapper, you know what I'm saying, hip-hop music, trap music.
And when it comes to rap, what is your opinion on ad-libs in a song?
Ad-libs, everything. You know, different dudes got different flow to what, I mean,
like different styles of what, like the ad-libs mean a little more, you feel me? But like personally,
like I don't overdo the ad-libs, but I listen to them and I find cuts where I feel like they
belong and they really, you know what I'm saying, juice the song up. And even in the midst of that
description, do you have a signature ad-lib by any chance that you're known for at this point?
It seem like that y'all, y'all take it off, you know what I'm saying? I say it at the beginning
of the type of nigga, I say it at the beginning of 448 Flow, you know what I'm saying? I throw
it in there at 9am, that's probably my signature right now. And is there a meaning to this ad-lib
of yours whenever you implement it? I mean, I just be saying that shit, though. I say y'all a
lot, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, it just, it's like, it's, like the way the ad-libs work,
it's like syllables. So like sometimes you need one syllable, sometimes you need two syllables,
and it's like, y'all, y'all, it fit, it just fit in a lot of places and it sound like me,
so it work a lot. Now, when you do it twice, it's the double syllable there that you just
demonstrated. Were you the first recording artist to ever do this ad-lib in particular here?
I don't think so, though. It gotta be somebody else. I mean, probably, it's definitely people
that say it, yeah, yeah, but like, like, maybe not the way I said it, you know what I'm saying?
It's a certain enunciation, a certain affliction, you know what I'm saying, when I rip my eyes, so
you know what I'm saying? That's down. Now, when it comes to collaborating with other recording
artists, which you've done, have you ever added your ad-libs to another artist's verse on that
same song? No, I ain't never did that. What is your opinion of that? There are some
recording artists that do that, and not just. I like when Walker used to do that for Gucci.
I done heard it where it worked. I feel like I seen Travis put his ad-libs on people's shit,
you know what I'm saying? If it's somebody who's particularly charismatic with their ad-libs,
you know what I'm saying? Like a Walker, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I ain't never did it.
I had nobody do it for me. Now, would you be open to either of that, either of those scenarios in
the future, perhaps? I like to try new things, you know what I'm saying? I wouldn't want to make it a
thing, but it might be a song where it makes sense. Now, I asked you a variety of questions
here just on the subject of ad-libs. Anything else you want to mention before we move on to
another subject here? I would say, I mean, the only thing I would say, I feel like my favorite
rapper's ad-libs, like the rapper that had the best ad-libs to me, would be Young Scooter.
I really used to like that nigga's shit. And speaking of him as well, you two have
collaborated in the past. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did, we did. And recently, there was news of his
passing. Yeah. Did you publicly comment on his passing at all? Yeah, yeah, I made a post about
it, you feel me? I appreciate him extending his hand back in the day and blessing me with the
verse, you know what I'm saying? And like I said, I was a fan of his music, so it tripped me out
hearing about that, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate the school. And that post, I know
there's a plethora of social medias out there. Which post, or which social media, excuse me,
platform did you make that post on? For those in the audience that want to go back and maybe
look at that post and see your words. It was on Instagram, but it was on my story.
So it ain't up there no more. Now, speaking of Instagram as well, just in case there's some
scammy profiles out there, some fraudulent profiles, some spammy profiles, are you able to
share with the audience, especially those watching this, hearing you for the very first time, your
handle on that platform, Instagram.com slash. At Real Nino Breeze. And that's on everything. Shit, I'm on TikTok, I'm on Facebook, I'm on IG,
I'm on Twitter. You feel me? Everything is at Real Nino Breeze.
Now, when it came to this collaboration back then, how did that even come about?
You talking about with Scooter?
Yes.
You know what I mean? Like me and my dawgs, we was getting money in the streets and we wanted
to like find a legit hustle. So we was putting money into the club promoting, you know what I'm
saying, booking them, you know what I'm saying, and bringing the city out. So we booked Scooter
for a show and then, you know what I'm saying, double back on the verse. So like that's how I
went about putting him on the show. He ripped the feature real quick.
And I know when it comes to club promotions, sometimes you can profit from that, you can
break even, sometimes lose. With that instance, were you able to make a profit off of that
concert there?
No, we lost on that.
And, you know, just sidestepping here with club promotion.
How did you do overall speaking when you did them? Did you make a profit overall speaking,
break even, or end up losing?
Nah, nah, we all, we made music, we lost, we made money and lost money. I would say like we
probably like, you know, kind of took an L, like kind of would be in a deficit. But we never got
to really catch stride with that, you feel me? Like if you're going to step into a new arena,
you got to be prepared to take losses in the beginning because you got to learn what to do
and what not to do. You know what I'm saying? I feel like if we would have stuck with it,
it would have been different. But, you know, shit kind of got a little spooky after that.
How many shows do you think you've done over time?
It was like five or six. If I could do it again, bro, like we was already like hanging
out. Like we would, we already had it to the point where if it was like a Friday night,
Saturday night, a million motherfuckers, they hit my phone, hit my dog phone. What, what's
the mood tonight? Where y'all boys finna be? I don't think we needed to book nobody. We,
cause we already like had a good,
good reputation for hanging out, you feel me? And teeing up and shit like that. I think
we would have just got us a little venue. We could have packed
that bitch out and it would have been less overhead. And, uh, we could have like, kind
of like learned the game that way before we went all out.
And who else did you end up booking for shows throughout that time?
We booked Kodak. I know we booked Dolph. Um, and I know, I know we did a couple events
where, um, we didn't book anybody, but, um, I know for a fact we booked those three.
And did you get a chance to profit on either of these other artists?
Kodak was a profitable one cause they were before he was on. I think he did the show
for like $2,500. And he, he brought them out more than anybody.
So like that, like what I learned from that, like that's the temperature. If you're gonna
book somebody, but you're looking for a nigga that's on the cover, like at least in my city
cause you can't tax like that. So you gotta catch somebody on their way up that the streets
is fucking weak, but ain't all the way took off. It's, it's
a timing thing. If you want to bring them out of St. Pete, other than that, bro, you
might want to give away a car. You might want to give out a roll in. You might want to have
you a twerk contest, find another angle. Cause once you get these
artists that want 20, 40, 50,000, it ain't no venue in St. Pete to bring them to.
Now, when it comes to Young Scooter, was this the only time you had an interaction with
him? Was the show and the verse?
Nah, I seen him in the mall at Miami. He gave me his number too. They tell him like, boy,
we got spots all through this bitch. You feel me?
Like, fuck women. And, um, that was the last time I saw him.
And, uh, that last time, how far apart was that from his passing?
Like, that was, that was sometime in 2023. Maybe the beginning of the 24th. So it was probably like a year, year and a half, a 45th.
And how did you hear of his passing?
Um, I got a homegirl that write for Baller Alert. So she kind of be informed on,
um, you know, what's going on in the industry. She hit my line with it first. And then, um, it turned out to be true.
And for those in the audience that, uh, have not a chance, have not had a chance to hear this
collaboration between you two, uh, share the name of that title as well for those that want to look
it up and dig in.
Me and Young Scooter's song called "Bus Die." You know what I'm saying? We drive that bitch in
2015. They been talking they shit since then.
Now, speaking of songs and your catalog of music,
your discography, what do you think's been your biggest song so far at this point?
Type of nigga. Definitely my biggest song. That bitch, yeah, well.
Now, when it comes to this song in particular, as much press and media coverage that you've done thus
far, are there any unknown facts or stories in regards to it that's never been publicly mentioned
before?
Hmm.
Could be in regards to
creating the song, recording the song, or releasing the song?
I mean, um, I just know that when I made the song, like, the only goal that I really had with it was
to catch that algorithm of Florida rappers, you feel me? Like, 'cause I seen how me and my dawgs
used to be in the spot where we'll play like Boss Man JD or Boss Man D-Lo, we'll play, you feel me,
like a nigga like Pooley from Orlando or Hot Boy from, or we'll play like a Florida rapper, and
then once that song went off, it just kept playing niggas from all over the place. from Florida. I wanted to catch that wave
with like Golden Boy and all them niggas. So like
I had kind of like got out of the chain
gang and my flow was outdated.
When I got on that beat, that was like my
first attempt kind of like getting
on the new wave of production.
So like my only goal
was really to catch that YouTube
algorithm so that niggas in the traps
all over the state would
be hanging me in between like
them other rappers that already kind of like had
their thing going. So like
to see it turn into what it is today
You know what I'm saying?
It's crazy.
I didn't really anticipate that at first.
Any other unknown facts or stories in regards to this song
never publicly mentioned before that you can remember?
Not really.
Now, got to ask you this, because it is 2026.
Was there any AI technology used in the creation of that song at the time?
Yeah, I thought no.
Now, what is your opinion of that?
Artificial intelligence in the music industry now?
I ain't really jacking it, you feel me?
But, I mean, if you think about what niggas do on footloose,
it's kind of like AI already, because you're using a drum,
you ain't actually playing the drums.
You're using a horn, you ain't actually blowing a horn.
So long as niggas is harnessing it in a way to where they're still being creative,
but I don't think that's what's going to happen, though.
I think they're going to use that shit to take flavor out of the game
and copy niggas' voices and not have to write their own lyrics
and all that old games and shit.
Now, do you think this is a trend moving forward,
or do you think this is a permanent fixture, if you could predict?
AI?
Yes, AI in the music industry.
I mean, it's hard to say, because it's like, you know, it's a powerful tool,
and I feel like people are going to utilize it,
but I feel like people are rejecting it, you know what I'm saying?
And at the end of the day, music is, you know what I'm saying?
It's a spiritual thing.
It's a chemical thing.
It's not scientific.
It's an art form, so it's like a little bit of emotion and feel
that I'm not really sure a robot can convey, you know what I'm saying?
Do you feel like you're competing against AI at all at this point?
I don't be considering it.
I think, I don't know, I guess at some point, like, if the wave get there,
then I'd actually notice it, but that ain't even on my radar right now.
And, you know, I was going to ask you this,
but I can probably assume your answer based on what your last response was,
and I'll still ask you formally anyways.
Do you feel a pressure to adapt to AI at all to keep up with the industry?
No.
Has anyone in the music industry in any facet asked you to try AI
or tap in with AI or maybe against it,
tell you, hey, don't mess with this stuff?
No, I ain't really, not personally.
I done seen, like, a little bit of stuff online about AI,
but kind of, like, more with photographers
and people that's in, like, the, maybe, like, movies
and people, people, like, that do camera work, you know what I'm saying?
And music industry, I mean, I'm sure there's conversations about it,
but I ain't personally had that.
Just curious there, of course.
Now, in regards to this song,
did you know when you were creating this, recording it, or releasing it,
that it was going to be one of your biggest, if not the biggest in your music catalog?
Not really, you know what I'm saying?
Like, me, I'm going for the Gus story all the time,
so in a way, I thought it was going to be the biggest
because it was my most recent at the time.
Every time I drop something, I'm trying to go further than the one before.
But I ain't know what's going to do everything that it's doing now, hell.
Nah, nah, ain't nothing.
Now, when it comes to predicting your music, okay,
in this instance, your goal, like you mentioned,
is always to one-up the next song or the next project, so on and so forth.
But you didn't predict how big this song was going to be for you.
So, in that case, is there anyone around you, on your team, so on and so forth,
that's better at predicting your music or your songs than you?
It might be my partner, Zoo.
That's the nigga that record me.
Because I did a song right before Typing Nigga called Shipping.
And I was kind of like, you know, I liked both of them bitches.
He was like, nah, Typing Nigga won.
And I kind of was leaning that way, too.
But, um. Zoo just got a, you know, he just got an ear.
And he don't look at music kind of the way that I do,
because I'm a technician.
And he more of an energy, just vibe kind of nigga.
So, he be calling out a lot of shit.
Now, when it comes to this song, just thinking back as well,
what do you think led this song to get as far as it has today?
What was the key, or. It's like a cover element, though.
It's like, that bitch just won't die.
It's like. It gets different ways at different times for different reasons.
But I know what's carrying it right now is, um. You know, all the different TikTok and Instagram reels
that people keep making to it.
They got so creative with, like, different ways of using the song
to stunt or make funny content.
So, the content is really what's driving it right now.
Now, I know you mentioned this is happening right now,
but just, you know, when the song was released
and started picking up and you started honing in
to how big this could be, at some point,
I do want to ask you this, just to, you know,
cross the T's and dot the I's, just in case.
Was it a co-sign, perhaps, from anyone in particular on this song
that also helped propelled it to get as far as it has today?
Right.
Rosé posted that bitch every date for a long time, bro.
Like, everything.
This type of nigga there, this type of nigga there.
You know, breathe this, you know, breathe that.
I was saying, play with that bitch, dawg.
We came out the gate, you feel me?
Came in the game, pushing that bitch hard.
So, um, it's that double L-G style.
That was a big one.
Now, in that chemistry between you two,
is that something, you know, you ask him to do?
I need this push, I need an everyday post.
Is that something he takes on his own
because he likes that song in particular of yours, or?
Everything that happened was on his own.
You feel me?
Like, him wanting to get on that song was on his own.
Him wanting to sign me off that song was on his own.
And everything that he did promotion-wise,
you feel me, like, that's just how he was,
how dawg was feeling.
And I think he was just inspired, so.
Rose is a nigga that, it's like,
his inspiration is on another level.
Like, like, like, once he in the mold, bro,
it's like manic.
So, it's like, um, you know,
you drop that bitch,
he wanted to make sure the world felt it.
God bless you.
Tissue there, just in case you need it.
And also, pardon the brain fog here,
but was there a sample at all in this song?
No, there wasn't no sample at all.
And also, when it comes to the music video of this song,
there was one released for it as well.
Yeah.
It's about 12 million on YouTube right now.
In clarification then,
do you think it was the visual, like the music video,
that also helped propel the song to get as far as it has today,
or just the audio itself of the song?
Nah, the video made a, the video helped too.
Like, um, some of my biggest streaming weeks
was when the video was released,
or when the, um, when the news of me shooting the video
in my city came out.
So, the video, you know, the visuals always help,
because it helps, like,
you know, capture the vibe of the song.
Sometimes, like, for certain people,
that visual be, you know, be everything.
It shows them how to listen to the song,
or what this is, you know what I'm saying?
And also, there was a remix to this song as well.
Yeah.
You already mentioned one of them.
It was Rick Ross on it,
but there's also Moneybagg Yo as well on it.
That's the song.
Me, Ross, and Moneybagg.
And whose call was that to put Moneybagg, of all people, on it?
Uh, it was Rosé's call, once again.
It was a cover of the people that we had in mind,
but, like, Moneybagg was a player about the situation.
You know, he had it up.
So, um, you know, we fought with who fought with us,
and that's how that went.
So, just for clarification, that was a remix, correct?
No.
Not a remix?
That's the official song.
Okay, that is the official song.
I apologize.
I thought it said remix on your, uh, new project,
let me just double check so I can be sure.
Yeah, I guess it's not a remix.
I thought there was a version of just you, by yourself,
but, and I thought this came out after,
but I apologize for that.
Okay, was there a thought on a remix then?
Yeah.
We wanted to do a lot of remixes,
but, um, I don't know what happened with it, I think.
I don't think it's just some funny acting industry shit,
but we wanted to do, like, a Detroit remix,
a Chicago remix.
Yeah, a remix.
Because it's just such a relatable topic, you feel me?
So, um, we, we, we, we, we consider it, dog,
but, you know, sometimes you gotta move forward.
You can't, uh, you can't let out
just because other people ain't getting with it,
you know what I'm saying?
Now, I asked you a lot of questions here
in regards to this song.
Is there anything else you want to mention about it
before we move on to another topic here?
I just want to say I appreciate all the young people out there
that's making creates to this motherfucker.
Like, all you do is make music.
Because it's like, I'm talking about every day
I go on Instagram, TikTok, and I see a new way
that somebody done used my song to, to, to show off
or made back or to show off their whip
or to show off their, it's like the,
it's kind of like just became like a, a, a luxury song.
You feel me?
Like, when you want to showcase that, that, that, that,
that money shit, you feel me?
That you get into some paper,
they using, um, you know, the type of nigga song.
And like I said, like, my intent with it out the gate,
I never would have thought that
people in motherfucking Australia,
in London, in Frankfurt, Germany,
and all these different places would be listening to the song.
But that's what, that's the pocket that I caught
once it went viral.
And, um, it's really the young people that's fueling that.
So I appreciate that.
Now let's dissect that a little bit too.
What is your personal definition of viral?
Shit, I ain't gonna lie, boy.
Type of nigga's out of here.
I don't, I don't know if there's no way to track
how many digital little Instagram posts and views it has.
But it'll be in the billions, homie.
It's out of the. and then it's like
we don't even get
accredited for everything
because like
sometimes they speed
the beat up
or slow the beat down
it's a lot of variation
you know what I'm saying
but
when I'm just
on my timeline
every day
and I'm seeing
five, six different videos
that I didn't ask to see
with my song playing
it's viral
and when it comes
to these viral videos
as well
or the virality
of this song
whether it's been
the most views
of a video
using the song
of yours or not
what's been your
personal favorite
that you've seen
someone do
to this song?
Probably like
it was somebody
who took a piece
of chicken
because you know
the Maybach bounce
so it was somebody
who took a piece
of chicken
and they tied it
to the bottom
of the Maybach
so that when they
made that bitch bounce
the chicken wing
dipped in
a little bottle of ranch
I was just like
damn
but it's now
and his Maybach
was clean
that bitch was like
mint green
with the silver
what's wrong?
Now as
big as this song
has been for you
are there any
flaws into it
whenever you listen
to it again?
Nothing you would
wish you could
go back and fix?
Hell no.
I mean it's dead.
I mean it's dead.
Also
I just wanted to
clarify one more thing
too
when it came to
Moneybagg Yo
why was he selected
of all people
to also feature
on this song
if you didn't
mention it already?
He wanted to do it.
I don't know what to say
he wanted to do it.
Simple as that.
Alright well
moving on to some
other questions here
I do want to ask you this.
Now
you mentioned that
this song
obviously was
what helped you
get signed.
So when it comes to
that imprint there
MMG
what's it really like?
Being a part of that?
I mean it's an honor
you know there's a lot
of prestige associated
with MMG.
I'm a big fan of Ross
I'm a big fan of Meek
like a real big fan
like the last
like couple years
if I show you my album
they're in my top five
you know what I'm saying?
And I got a lot of respect
for the other artists
on MMG
even though they're
my two favorite
but I just feel like
it's the right fit for me.
MMG always stood for
like real niggas
coming together.
Making power moves
and feeling like
niggas hustling.
Team work and things
you know the same shit
that I stand for.
So it's like me being on MMG
and inheriting
you know the brand
that they've already
established
and the fan base
they've already established.
It's a big advantage
and a big blessing
because
it's already who I am.
If they would have put me
on some funny style shit
it would have been hard.
But me being part
of this fold
it made good sense
and you know
it just came natural.
- And who do you have
the closest bond with
on that imprint
at this point?
- Said it'll probably be Rosé.
- And you know
asking you this question
it could be someone
in front of the scenes
like you
like another recording artist
like him
or it could be someone
behind the scenes
like another executive.
- I mean you know
we found over
I fought with Boogie.
I fought with Kano.
I fought with Sneak.
It's a lot of niggas in the fold
that I'm tight with.
But it's like
- The closest.
Who do you think?
- Yeah, probably Rosé.
Either Rosé or Kano.
- And did you have a bond
with either of them
prior to you signing?
- Yeah, like Kano
was my nigga for a long time.
I've been knowing Kano
since like 2017.
Going on 10 years, shit.
- Did that have something
to do with getting this deal
as well?
- Yeah, Kano was the one
that got me the deal.
He was always playing my music
for Ross.
I know like I had dropped
like a first day out
that Ross was fucking with me.
He just found it on the internet.
And then I hollered at Kano
about it.
He connected me and Ross
but I didn't sign it.
And that was in 2002.
But I always knew like that.
You know, I got that.
That's my ace in the hole.
You feel me?
So it's like whenever
I wanted to throw that spade out there.
I was going to be able
to make that move.
So I was just sending music.
Kano here playing for Ross.
And you know, once he heard
that type of nigga join,
he like, now I want that to be double M.
And you know, that's how it went.
- Now, hypothetically speaking here,
if you were stranded on an island.
- Ah, shit.
- With one person from MMG.
- Wow, Lord.
- Who would it be and why?
- I'm trying to think of what girls is on MMG.
I don't know, bro.
It had to be a female though.
I don't want to be stranded on an island with a nigga.
Real talk.
That was a crazy ass question, bro.
- Well, you know, it depends.
I've gotten a lot of different responses to this and. - And niggas pick men?
- Well, it doesn't even have to be a sexual thing.
You know, I. - What I'm saying, I'm on a. Okay, car.
You right though.
But still.
You know, sometimes it could be a survival thing.
You know, I've heard, you know, responses like,
hey, you know what?
We're on this island together.
I choose this person
because their survival tactics are crazy.
We'll get off this island together.
- So, how long you want to keep living with our bitches?
So, that's a. - It's just a hypothetical question.
- I'm just saying, bro.
I'm not picking no nigga.
Oh, if I pick this nigga,
I'm gonna live for a long time with no bitches.
Like, I ain't doing no shit like that.
I really, my answer to that question,
I would make raw sign.
My girlfriend.
That's what I would do.
And we'd go on the island together.
- Now, a few questions about Ross as well.
What's it like really working with him?
- Oh, aspirational, bro.
That 305 shit at Miami, like Nightlife.
That's his backyard.
He got that shit on lock.
So, you gonna see it like at the highest level.
Like, like, like, like, whatever.
You want a name.
You want a name.
Whatever club you want to name.
Whatever whip you want to name.
Whichever, like, bitch you think bad.
Fat boy got it.
So just, just, just seeing like the empire that he built.
And that's another thing.
Dog goes deep.
He got a lot of solid niggas on his team.
So, and he family-oriented.
So it's like me seeing like the level that dog balling at.
That nigga like a legal kingpin.
Like a legal big knee job.
I mean, we hit Vegas for her sister's birthday.
Dog had to fuck off.
Between like how much he spent and then how much shit he get
on face that he's supposed to spend on.
That was like a $250 a weekend, bro.
The whole hotel was us.
Everybody in the hotel was like,
like his sister named Tawanda.
Everybody was Tawanda.
Her family members, her homegirls.
He had like a private event at the bottom
where he brought Uncle Luke and Sukiana
and all these different people
for like this little freak nick thing.
We still did a club that night.
And we still did the pool party the next day.
We got bottles there as well.
We got food there as well.
And we talking about Dre's when it was still open.
The ticket up there.
I know, bitch, I got the cheapest station in Dre's one time.
I spent $11,000.
So seeing like, you know, the type of,
just like big shit that he able to put together seamlessly.
It's aspiration.
And I be trying to take pages out of his, you know,
take pages out of his book.
Put it in mine.
- But on the working side of things,
is he easy or tough to work with?
- He's easy as hell to work with.
- And what's a studio session like with you two
when you guys are in there together?
- I mean, it's just two rappers, dog.
Like, I'm an MC here, MC.
People getting fucked up sometimes.
'Cause a nigga got like a certain type of image
or a certain type of swag.
But I'm a student of the game and I'm lethal with the pen.
Just like dog, so I don't know.
You know, still shopping still.
- Now, out of all of his characteristics,
what do you enjoy the most about him?
- I don't know, dog.
Just entertaining, bro.
He just entertaining.
He just got like a way of talking.
And a way of telling stories.
A way of saying things.
It ain't never a dull moment.
- And just to be fair, on the,
on the opposite end of the spectrum,
is there a characteristic of his you can't stand?
- Not really.
- And winding down the questions about him,
what's the best advice you've received from him
or most important thing you learned
being around him so far?
- Oh, just not to leave no money on the table going on
every day.
You feel me?
Like, dog on.
You feel me?
Like, he got the big plays.
He got the little plays.
He gonna circle all up.
Like you said, like I always said in an interview,
like, you might look at it like it's only 20,000,
but if you keep letting that 20,000 slide for 10 years,
great, that shit might add up to 10, 20 million.
So, and, and you never, you can really never,
you don't want to underestimate a play.
'Cause shit got compound consequences.
So it's like, you might do that little play
and then you might run into a player,
like a nigga that's gonna book you for another five big plays,
'cause you read that first one, you know what I'm saying?
You might think that
But them 10 new followers you got on Instagram ain't really much.
You looking at niggas that got millions of followers.
But them 10 Instagram followers might listen to you for the next 10, 20 years.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Don't play with it, bro.
From the bottom to the top, be thorough about your shit.
Probably the biggest lesson, y'all.
And when it comes to U2, final question here.
Obviously, you've got songs together.
How many songs, though, of U2 unreleased at this point?
You know that, too?
And any plans with them?
Yeah, yeah.
His album called Set in Stone.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to repost that bitch, though.
He just dropped the title of that bitch today.
But it's called Set in Stone.
And I got one on there.
It's a crazy track.
I don't want to say too much about it.
But, you know, I did my dollar for soul.
And also, curious here, when it comes to projects as well,
has there ever been talk of a project of just,
U2 together?
No.
Just curious there.
Yeah.
And speaking of projects,
when it comes to your discography,
I do want to ask you this as well.
Now, when it comes to titles of your past projects,
has there been any thought on turning them into a series of any sort?
I know some recording artists will do a two, a part two, a volume two.
So on and so forth.
With your titles, you've only released standalone titles.
Have there been any thoughts on continuing any of them into any sort of series, perhaps?
Yeah, I like a lot of series.
And I'm a pretty consistent artist as far as, like,
where I draw inspiration from and shit like that.
But I just ain't never had my shit together enough to have a series.
Because in order to have a series, you've got to be consistent.
And I was always in the streets.
So y'all might see a series now that I'm in the right game with.
And zooming out, what's been your favorite project so far that you've released?
Oh, Mirtha.
A recent project.
We've been out for about a week.
You feel me?
Like, the street's fucking with it.
And I finally had an opportunity to fully execute a project
because I wasn't on a run and I wasn't out on bond
and I had enough motherfucking studio time and shit like that.
Because, like, with my previous projects,
there'd always be some janky shit going on.
And this was, like, the first time, well,
every single take got perfected.
You feel me?
My mixing, my recording engineer did his thing.
The mixing and mastering engineer did his thing.
The production would have needed to be the features where they at.
I really can't, you feel me?
I didn't compromise.
I executed.
So I like this project because I feel like I'm better than ever.
And then on top of that,
I got to really do my thing as far as the completion of it.
Now, speaking of this new body of work of yours,
can you explain to the audience
everything they need to know about it?
I mean, the title is on Merthyr.
That's mafia lingo for the Code of Silence.
It's also the Code of Conduct, Code of Honor.
And, you know, I've been in certain situations
where I stood on my morals and principles
I ain't never told on no nigga.
And there's a lot of, like, police-ass shit
going on in the gang right now.
And all them niggas trying to justify
who the goalposts are, how they pick.
But we really just need. We need to bring that G-code shit back
and stand on it if you claim it to be what I am.
This shit ain't necessarily for everybody.
I don't expect everybody to fear me
or understand the ideology.
But if you get out there in those streets
knowing the consequences of your actions
and you can't live with it,
you ain't got no business out there
because that's how you end up
fucking up a whole other person's household.
And taking them from their people,
taking them from their family.
You don't know what kind of trauma you might onset.
You don't know what. Like I said,
compound consequences.
You don't know that taking that father away from his home
can lead to his little girl getting murdered
or his little boy catching 50 years.
Like, men need to provide.
They need to protect.
And they need to give guidance.
And it's like, true enough,
sometimes in the gang,
you're going to slip regardless.
But it's real fucked up
to take a nigga off the streets
because you don't want to live with
the decisions you made.
But just me and what I believe in,
I feel like the. The title was appropriate.
And I definitely wanted to put my beard in
as far as like, you know,
just giving like. Giving, you know,
the people that feel how I feel
and living how I'm living.
I wanted to give them a soundtrack.
Because you can turn on the radio
or go on YouTube, Apple Music,
wherever you want to listen to music at
and hear the fuck shit.
And it's like,
if you a fan of hip-hop music,
it's almost like
they wouldn't give you no choice.
There wasn't no alternative
but to listen to a rap.
So I just had to bring this shit back for real.
And do you consider this project,
I know you used the phrase project,
but do you consider this an album or a mixtape?
Contractually, it's considered a mixtape.
But it's an album, though.
What the fuck is a mixtape?
It don't even exist no more.
Mixtapes are when you kind of get over
other niggas' beats
and you showcase your skill set
and this beat blend with the next one.
That's why it's called a mixtape.
It's an album, homie.
And also,
when it comes to this,
this title as well
and your choice for this title,
was that actually your choice?
Was that something you came up with?
The concept and the title for this?
Maybe someone else did?
I mean, my little brother,
he produced the title track
and when I told him
I was going to name it on Myrtha,
he was just like,
boy, that bitch fine.
And then it just went from there.
When I seen his reaction to the word,
I was like, damn.
There's a lot of niggas out here
who never heard that word before.
And I feel like,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, go on Google
or go in the dictionary,
find the definition of the word
and be like, damn, that nigga snap.
So, other than that,
you know my idea.
And what about this artwork as well?
Are you able to break that down?
Why it looks the way it does,
so on and so forth?
Well, I mean,
I wanted to have a birthday party, bro.
So, like, the birthday party,
I wanted to rent out
like a really nice venue
and I'm from St. Pete,
Tampa Bay area.
So, we only got one five-star hotel
in the area.
So, we only got one five-star hotel
and that's the addition.
And the nicest room
in the addition
is the red room.
So, once I knew
I was going to have an event
in the red room,
I knew I wanted to wear
a red tux
to match the room.
And it's just like
everything just came together
because, like,
I came through
with the red and black tux.
My dogs came through
with the black and red.
And then, like,
it was just a nice vibe that night.
And I had just made
the own birthday song.
I couldn't think of
what to name the birthday dinner,
so I named it
the own birthday dinner.
Everybody that was
invited to the dinner
felt like family,
which is the whole purpose
of O'Murther.
So, it just went from there.
So, when you see
that album cover,
that's me going back
to the red room
in the same suit
that I had on on my birthday
just because that was
a special moment for me.
I was surrounded by love.
I was surrounded by family.
I liked the vibe that night.
So, that's kind of like
the inspiration for the cover.
Any meaning behind
that color right now?
Red?
Nah, it was just a red room.
I wanted to match the room
with some fly shit.
That suit was tougher
than a bitch, though.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
And what about the release date
for this project, too?
This was released on April 3rd.
Was there any significance
behind that release date?
Nah.
And as much press
and media coverage
as you've done thus far,
are there any unknown facts
or stories
in the past
in regards to this project
that's never been
publicly mentioned before?
I mean,
I was working on a project.
I was damn damn done with it.
And then I ended up,
you know what I'm saying?
My name ended up
in some fuck shit.
Next thing you know,
I'm indicted on a new,
you know, like, federal case.
And when I was making,
when I was finalizing the album,
I was really on the run
because that was the last thing
that I wanted to make sure
that I got done
in case I did go away.
I was able to get me
some money.
I was able to get me
some really good lawyers.
Shout out to Mark Rankin
and Bradford Cohen.
They fought for me
and got me a bond.
That's why I'm out here today
able to push this shit.
But when y'all listen to that album,
especially that A1 song,
nigga, that shit too real, boy.
Nigga was like,
nigga was really facing some shit
and this was gonna be like
my great goodbye.
Potentially, but
you know, the Lord had other plans.
That's why I'm out here now.
We're gonna hit y'all
with that deluxe.
We're gonna come through
with some more shit.
And, you know,
we gotta find a say-so.
And as far as the Lord,
excuse me,
the Lord here is concerned,
which you just mentioned,
wanted to get your viewpoint
on religion.
Do you follow religion
at this point?
How do you look at religion
these days?
So, I mean,
I just feel like
I don't know.
I don't really follow
no religion.
I might need to do
more research
to see if there's a religion
that's consistent with like
what I feel instinctively.
But, you know,
I know God real
and I feel like
we all connected to him.
And I feel like
the gift that I have
as a musician
and the instincts
that I have,
the natural inclination
that I have
to do certain things
or walk the way I walk
or talk the way that I do,
that's my connection with God.
Because it get fucked up
because I,
you know,
people are like
look at other people
and they want what they have.
Like, okay,
I like the way he walk.
I like the way he talk.
I like the way his music sound.
I like the clothes he wear.
I like the bitch he fucker wear.
And then you trying to copy
another person
person and that's how you kind of
Like, you know, what's the word?
I'm thinking about like a radio antenna when the signal ain't coming through.
You feel me?
Like, you want to stay connected with yourself, and I feel like that's how you stay connected with God.
So, me, you know, I do a lot of maintenance on my mental.
I keep my spirit, keep my spirit light.
You feel me?
Like, I make sure that I'm, like, in touch with myself and in tune with, you know what I'm saying?
I just feel like the energy that's running through me and the things that come to my mind naturally that I kind of can't explain where they come from, that's God.
And I don't really put too much more thought into it than that.
Now, prior to this mentality and your outlook here on how you look at things, were you raised to follow religion perhaps?
Not really.
Now, sidestepping back into the conversation on this project, there is 18 softwares.
There's songs on there.
Why that amount for this project?
I'm sure you could have done 15 or a little less, like 12, or maybe even more, like 21 or 23, 25.
Why 18 here?
I feel like 18 was valid, you feel me?
My parents have been waiting for a full project for a while, so I wanted to make sure that it was long enough for them to feel like, you know, they could live with it for a little while.
How many tracks did you have to choose from originally before landing on this final 18?
There's only one song.
There's really like only one song that I made that I didn't put on that list.
I ain't like me.
I kind of know in the writing process if the song worth being recorded.
So I ain't no nigga that got like 50,000 songs that never came out.
And will that particular song that didn't make the initial project here, will that make the deluxe as well?
Potentially.
Like I made that song with a particular feature.
So it just depends on if it's long time down.
We get to it, then y'all are ahead.
Now, what about this track list?
Once you choose this 18, how did you go about the track list?
Unless someone else did the track list for you, perhaps.
What was your mentality, your strategy?
We just wanted to make sure that we mashed the gas out the gate.
Because, you know, people got short attention spans.
So we wanted to make sure that first beat was knocking.
And then if you hit the skip button, it was the same thing.
And if you hit the skip button, it was the same.
So we, the first five songs is what you would expect from me, though.
And then, like, we started to showcase some of the versatility and some of the musicality, like, later on in the album.
And then we brought it back to the trap, you know what I'm saying, before we got up out of there.
But, yeah, just sonically, like, just, I don't know.
Like I said, just whatever vibe I felt like was right, I put them bitches where they went.
And is that a strategy, you know, choosing the vibe or whatever?
The vibe is right, you went.
Is that a strategy you used in previous projects?
Or was this the first time you implemented that strategy for this one?
All the time.
I feel like sequencing is important.
I remember when I was a shotter, bro.
My daddy gave me a bootleg version of an album.
And I hated that motherfucker.
And then, like, I got the real version of it.
And I was like, oh, it sound better.
So, like, that presentation is important.
And when it came to the sequencing.
How long did that take just for you to do with this track list?
Like a day.
Well, not even a day.
Like an hour, two hours, a couple of hours.
It didn't take long.
And again, that was you behind the sequencing or maybe other people?
Me and my partner, Mac.
Now, out of all these 18 songs here, what's your personal favorite?
Tavernu.
And what makes that the personal here out of all 18 for you?
The beat so far, though.
I've been looking for a beat like that since I got it.
Motherfucker, I can't find one.
I'm fucked up by the beat.
I'm fucked up by the chorus.
The verse is flawless.
And it's unorthodox.
Because it ain't like a 16-bar verse or a 12-bar verse.
I don't even know how good my other bitch is.
I just rode that motherfucker.
You feel me?
And it just sounds good everywhere.
I done heard that bitch on the West Coast.
I done heard that bitch in the Midwest, East Coast, Down South.
You feel me?
Like, Buddha Club.
All that shit.
It just sounds off every motherfucking time.
There's no way that if your first impression,
there ain't no breezes type of nigga that you ain't finna become a fan, bro.
And for those in the audience that have yet to hear this song,
as long as it's been out.
They fucking playing.
Care to share what this song's about?
It's just me describing what type of nigga I am.
Now, favorite or not,
what's your most honest song out of these 18?
All of them.
Is there one that's just even more honest
than the rest, though?
I mean, I feel like if you ain't being honest,
you're lying.
Like, unless you're saying, like,
more vulnerable or something like that.
But, um. If you want to, you know,
if you want to take that there for this question. I would say, like, the deepest song. There you go.
The deepest, maybe.
The deepest one for me is probably Cash Money.
It could be, like, what Payne do with it.
I think it's kind of more like Cash Money
because of what Payne do.
I feel like, you know,
I hear a lot of songs like that
where a nigga's just speaking on, you know,
just Payne in general.
I feel like Cash Money was more specific.
And care to share what that song's about as well.
Sure.
That song is just, like,
me trying to capture what it felt like on,
you know, in the 90s, early 2000s,
you know, coming off Southside.
It's like, you know, everything different now.
It's just like, you know, with the social media
and all that, like, it's. I don't know.
Like, I don't know what it's like to be, like,
growing up in poverty in this current era.
I wanted to create something that had, like,
that 90s, early 2000s feel.
And I wanted to speak on real project,
real ghetto shit.
That's why I speak on cash advances.
That's why I speak on dice games
and different hustles that niggas pick up in the hood.
To make ends meet.
Me seeing my mama flip them fools,
you know, some shit like that.
And do you recall who produced this beat
and the other song as well, your personal favorite?
J.P. Tracks and Hefe made Cash Money.
J.P. Tracks, he a fool with them samples
because they really not samples.
He really make, have people sing certain things
and will freak it like it's a sample.
And then Type of Niggas produced by my dog Taz
and Paul B.
Fairly sick.
Now, there are nine features on this body of work as well.
Damn, is that right?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it is.
Do you have a favorite feature out of the nine?
Shit.
Oh, I might be, I don't know where.
It's like, I feel like, damn.
I feel like, oh, Rock for Rock went crazy.
That's my little dog out of Clearwater.
I feel like the dog was bad.
Yeah.
He did his thing.
But then Cartel Bo.
His verse got a, his verse is crazy too.
It got a lot of character.
It got a lot of one-liners that'll fuck you up.
And then, you know, my homegirl Arikai,
like her vocals, she sung on one of the songs
and like the timing of her vocals is like the apex of the song.
It just sound like the gates of heaven opening up or some shit.
It's just some beautiful shit.
But then, you know, Ross.
You know, Ross balled that shit too.
I don't know.
When it came to these nine features here,
which feature did you get the quickest?
Or who, you know?
Okay.
And how long did that take?
Shit.
It took negative time because I wasn't expecting it.
It's just like, it's just like, like, like,
I remember I got a text from my phone, bro.
I got a text from my phone from Kano and I played it
and I heard Ross on the type of nigga beat.
And then I got four balls into the verse.
And this motherfucking nigga, Kano, called my phone.
I was so fucking mad, dog.
Nigga fucked up the whole moment.
Then he called my phone.
He like, hey, bro, I just sent you a rough and bad boy.
I'm like, motherfucking nigga, I know I'm listening to it.
But nah, like, oh, nah.
He sent that bitch, like, swiftly.
And who took the longest?
Or which feature took the longest for you to get?
Uh, you know that boy, Bizzy.
That nigga had power moves.
He make it.
I just seen him at Big Meech on the podcast.
He was legendary.
But he was a player about it.
Nigga gave me his word and he honored that.
So that's a thousand.
And, you know, zooming out here when it comes to this project
and winding down the questions just about that.
What have you learned about yourself through the creation
and release of this body of work?
Is there a takeaway for you?
Zooming out.
That was tougher than any nigga.
Even in this era.
Cause I've been rapping a long time.
So I had to update my flow and make adjustments
and I was able to do that.
So I just think it's meant for me, bro.
I done, I done ripped this shit too many different ways
and not be the one.
And last question about this project here.
Can you give the audience five reasons to listen to it?
Um, yeah.
Okay, so the production is A1.
If you, if you want to hear like, you feel me?
Like most up to date when it comes to street music that is.
You want to hear that?
up-to-date production you know what i'm saying i i was with the best all throughout this
if you're a fan of lyricism i ain't off you feel me like off of all that on point
but then another thing about this current production don't really bring much cadence
of music to it so there's like various flows you feel me i try not to duplicate them too much
and the hook gang crazy so there's three things or like i said if you want to hear you know like
just just just like the mode that it's gonna put you in when you when you listen to it it's just
like it's just bringing back that real that g code we not aligned with none of that
over here you know what i'm saying so i like when i hear certain songs like monkey
suit by brutal molly or uh
um what's it called that song cold-hearted too you feel me like just put you like matter
of fact that's the best way to describe it like i like i'm really up by championships
by me i'm really up by victory lap by um nipsey hustle and it's like when i listen to them
projects i just be like yeah i like hearing speak on right from wrong get money with your
dogs not snaking your partners investing hustling
and flipping working hard so that you can get something and have something
you know what i'm saying it's not always you know what i'm saying it ain't always about that other
and you know what i'm saying i'm gonna let them do what they do cause i ain't hating on
no that's what you specialize in that's what you do but if you when you ready to hear that
real you know there's a murder project where it's at it's on that same cloth and some other
projects i just named so i like the mold that it puts you in and then lastly a fifth reason
is it's the originality you know what i'm saying cause i got my own i got my own you
know what i'm saying like i got my own i don't sound like you you know what i'm saying
so it's like it's it's just um it's a major contribution to the game when you when you
got somebody that's doing it at the level that i'm doing it and it don't sound like
what else is out there you know what i'm saying now you mentioned there are plans for a deluxe
do you want to share a release date to that not yet but it will be coming okay and i guess um
another topic here that i want to ask okay this is something that you mentioned a few
times during this interview i just want to get some uh clarification on it as well
uh so you mentioned a few things you mentioned you know saint pete you mentioned tampa area
uh you mentioned this during this conversation
uh you mentioned this during this conversation but
but for those in the audience getting to know you here for the very
for those in the audience getting to know you here for the very first time
first time
first time care to share where you were actually born
care to share where you were actually born
care to share where you were actually born i born uh folk fort pope military base
i born uh folk fort pope military base
i born uh folk fort pope military base and my mom was an army you know what i'm
and my mom was an army you know what i'm
and my mom was an army you know what i'm saying and then uh when her my old boy
saying and then uh when her my old boy
saying and then uh when her my old boy broke up she came back to florida
broke up she came back to florida
broke up she came back to florida and what age was it do you think when
and what age was it do you think when
and what age was it do you think when you uh moved and where to
you uh moved and where to
you uh moved and where to in florida i was oh i was living in the
in florida i was oh i was living in the
in florida i was oh i was living in the old southeast
old southeast
old southeast so it's like that's it like right under
so it's like that's it like right under
so it's like that's it like right under the hood like you cross fourth street
the hood like you cross fourth street
the hood like you cross fourth street you're in the hood like this side of
you're in the hood like this side of
you're in the hood like this side of fourth street
and uh this hood what city is that
and uh this hood what city is that located in that you're uh describing
located in that you're uh describing
located in that you're uh describing there
there
there st pete and raised in st pete as well
st pete and raised in st pete as well
st pete and raised in st pete as well yeah and do you still reside in st pete
yeah and do you still reside in st pete
yeah and do you still reside in st pete today
i don't know
still reside in florida today definitely
still reside in florida today definitely
still reside in florida today definitely in florida
in florida
in florida okay now when it comes to
okay now when it comes to
okay now when it comes to st pete and tampa those are synonymous
st pete and tampa those are synonymous
st pete and tampa those are synonymous with each other
with each other to me y'all yeah what is the difference
to me y'all yeah what is the difference
to me y'all yeah what is the difference for those in the audience that
for those in the audience that
for those in the audience that you know have heard of tampa but maybe
you know have heard of tampa but maybe
you know have heard of tampa but maybe not st pete
not st pete
not st pete saint pete i mean tampa is the bigger city
saint pete i mean tampa is the bigger city
saint pete i mean tampa is the bigger city so because it's the biggest city like
so because it's the biggest city like
so because it's the biggest city like if you want to go shopping like even st
if you want to go shopping like even st
if you want to go shopping like even st peter you want to go shopping
peter you want to go shopping
peter you want to go shopping saint pete is more like a residential place
saint pete is more like a residential place
saint pete is more like a residential place it's like somewhere where everybody
it's like somewhere where everybody
it's like somewhere where everybody live at
live at
live at you know what i'm saying so it's like
you know what i'm saying so it's like
you know what i'm saying so it's like saint pete when they when they when they
saint pete when they when they do try to get something going it's a very thuggy city it's a very
it's a very thuggy city it's a very
it's a very thuggy city it's a very city so it's like well just be on point
You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's always, it's always drummified. There's always some shit going down. Sometimes you have a good time, though. But, you know, we kind of, we kind of a little more, you know, on the ratchet side of things. I like that kind of shit sometimes, though. I'm versatile, you feel me? Like, I do both. I'm going to show you the high life, but every now and then, you know what I'm saying? I like, I like a little hood of felt.
And when it comes to Tampa, St. Pete, and that area there, they're right next to each other.
Now, can you spot which part a person is from when you first meet them, whether it's St. Pete or Tampa, by any chance?
I feel like, yeah. I feel like, yeah.
What's the hint for you? How can you tell the difference?
I feel like, I feel like Tampa niggas flashier.
They, they, they, they, they dress, they dress cold like a little flamboyant.
Nah, nah, nah, I don't know. I don't like that word.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
They, they dress a little more, yeah, it's like flashier, more colorful, you know what I'm saying?
More stylish.
And, like, St. Pete niggas, like, I got, I definitely got on a monkey suit, nigga.
I'm an all black.
Like, St. Pete niggas G-man and walk out the door, you know what I'm saying?
Get, get you a corner store tee and walk out the door.
It's like, we can put that shit on from time to time, but, like, St. Pete niggas,
you know what I'm saying, just a little bit more basic and kind of, like, hustle different.
So, it's like, St. Pete niggas is grinders, bro.
We trying to, we, we, we, I'm talking about niggas squeezing water out of a rock,
putting quarters in ounce pots, you know what I'm saying?
Just trying to make shit scratch.
So, it's like, niggas kind of, like, got a mentality that they got to go hard every day
and you can tell from looking at a St. Pete nigga, like a street nigga from St. Pete,
you can tell from looking at him in his dress code that he been in that rental car all day,
you know what I'm saying, fogging that bitch up, put you some 10 on that bitch,
put some dark boys on that motherfucker and get to it, you know what I'm saying?
And that's what the dress code gonna be.
He gonna, we, we, we, we kind of dress in hustle gear, you know what I'm saying?
And not personally trying to start anything here or egg anything on further,
just giving you a space to speak, but is it territorial or beef between,
Tampa and St. Pete?
Yeah, nah, not right, nah.
I be hearing old heads say like it used to be like a little something between them back in the day.
But, uh, no, hell nah, I fuck with a lot of niggas from Tampa and, um,
like I said, like, if you from St. Pete, like, bro, I be in the club in Tampa,
I'm gonna hit lit and fuck with Cheeks now, you know what I'm saying?
I'm gonna hit Flex, I'm gonna hit E-Boys City, I'm gonna hit these spots.
It don't never be nothing.
And what's the camaraderie like with the, uh, other recording artists?
In both of these areas, as well?
I mean, for me, I'm a player, you know what I'm saying?
I like listening to niggas from around the week, you know what I'm saying?
And, um, I done did collaborations with them, I plan on doing more.
Um, I think everybody kind of understand that in order to get something going is strength in numbers.
So, um, this current generation and this current wave of niggas from St. Pete and Tampa really, like, clicked up, you know what I'm saying?
If a nigga got a problem with a nigga, that's his own personal shit, you know what I'm saying?
But generally speaking, um, you know, niggas, niggas, niggas standing together.
And, uh, as far as music is concerned, is there a difference between music that is made from St. Pete recording artists or Tampa recording artists?
Or is it pretty much, uh, similar sound, same sound at this point?
I don't think St. Pete really got no sound, you know what I'm saying?
Like, uh, like I said, like, like St. Pete.
Like, it's just a, it's just a drug-infested area, bro.
So we put a lot of emphasis on, like, roadrunner music, duffling, you feel me?
Just grind and shit.
And we get over, we get over Tribeza, we talk our shit, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we, we kind of just more of the same cloth that the rest of Florida from.
But Tampa has a sound.
They, they, they got joke music.
That's they shit, you know what I'm saying?
And when you listen to that "Motion Party" by D-Lo that's out right now, you know, D-Lo from a different part of Florida, but the producer
from Tampa, and that beat is one trillion percent a joke beat.
It even got a Kaya sample on that motherfucker, so.
Them niggas like, niggas like him, Tom G, Tay-Bay, you feel me?
Like, that's, that's they, they lane.
There's a lot of other niggas, too.
Tampa has a sound.
They can get outside of that sound, they make a lot of shit, but that is something that they actually have created and owned.
St. Pete, um, I feel like we, we, we, we just made, we made the same music, we made Florida music.
And then it's like.
If you listen to, man bro, you could be listening to, like I said earlier, Boss Man, JD, and he gonna sound just like a nigga from St. Pete, vice versa, so.
And curious here, when it comes to joke music that you're mentioning here on the Tampa side of things, has that been something you ever
ever experimented with yourself?
Bro, I got a juke song,
but I just ain't never dropped it, bro.
I'm being too self-conscious, bro.
I got Tom G on the feature and everything.
I might just need to drop that bit,
see what happens.
I got it, but I ain't put it out there yet, bro.
Now, when it comes to this collaboration,
this sound that you experimented with
at least once so far that's been unreleased,
was that something you do on your own?
Was that by request?
Were listeners or the audience asking you,
hey, do some juke music.
Try juke music.
What would you sound on this beat?
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
I was writing a verse, bro,
and it started off,
it was supposed to be like an R&B kind of move.
It started off slow,
and I'm talking about,
because a lot of times,
juke music be about fucking.
So it started off,
I'm trying to kind of serenade the whole thing.
I was like, man, you know what?
It'd be a sound harder if I just dropped it and spoke,
if I just took off,
so then I flipped it like that.
But I kept the same theme,
and before I know it,
I wrote a verse that kind of like,
I'm talking that shit that them niggas talk,
and I'm talking it at the speed that they talk it.
So then I had one of my producers make me a juke beat.
I was like, damn.
I got me one,
but I ain't never put it out there.
What was Tom G's reaction to this song?
I don't know.
He ain't talk much about it,
but that nigga sent that verse back,
and he did his thing.
And was that the first time
you two collaborated on something?
Was this song here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We supposed to get another name,
but I've been so busy, Tom.
Boy, I fuck with you.
I'm gonna get it done, I promise.
And, okay, when it comes to St. Pete and,
excuse me, St. Pete and Tampa,
last question here,
is there anything else you want to mention
about the comparison between these two areas,
or a question you weren't asked,
people want to know just about that?
I mean, shit, Tampa Bay,
we standing together right now,
you know what I'm saying?
There's a lot of niggas doing their thing.
Shout-out to Luke Kane.
Shout-out to 2-4.
Oh, shit, shout-out to Blizzom.
Shout-out to Rock for Rock.
He's a nigga that I personally like to listen to
from around the way.
Shout-out to Big 290.
And shout-out to Famous Kid Brick.
Fuck you talking about?
But, um, I know I'm forgetting some names.
I don't want to make nobody feel excluded,
my nigga.
But if you from around the way
and you doing your thing, bro,
just trust and believe I'm checking you out.
And just for transparency,
Famous Kid Brick is off-camera
to the side of you.
That's a legend right there, boy.
That's another St. Pete, Tampa Bay legend right there.
What are you two doing together
at this point?
I mean, my nigga been my dog for a long time
and he. I don't know.
See, like, same way I would describe it.
I don't know, bro.
The music business, it's a lot of. departments.
It's a lot of factors.
And dog, he know that presentation.
He know what them photos supposed to look like.
He know what them videos supposed to look like.
He know what moments you need to capture.
And, um, that's something that I ain't the best at.
So it's like, it's helpful having dog around
and just knowing, like, how to present this shit in the world.
I do a lot of fast shit,
but I don't always get to display it.
And you need that.
And pardon the brain fog here as well,
but have you two collaborated musically?
Yeah.
We got a song called Bankroll.
And we gonna get some motion in.
But I know we at least did it now that we ain't do nothing.
Damn. Damn.
I remember he did some shit.
We was supposed to make a Finesse mixtape
that he was on.
We probably got a couple of them.
Like I said, I've been knowing dog like a long time.
So it's like, I can't fully remember everything
because it's like different eras that me and brother and I
got it in.
But at this point, just one song collaborated?
Nah, it's more than one.
I can't remember.
Brick, do you want to chime in here on what's publicly available
if you care to share?
I know you're not mic'd up, but. We just got what he said, Bankroll,
and then we just actually did a feature together, a collab.
Oh yeah, we did it.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We're like, like, like we just, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did do one with me, Brick, and Tom.
It's called "Vibe-ing."
Yeah, uh-uh, uh-uh, I'm just vibing, yeah.
Publicly available or unreleased here?
Nah, that's available.
The rest of the shit, I don't think it's available.
That's all we're doing for now.
What about the other titles?
The other one, Bankroll, nah, that's just in the vault.
But what about the Finesse, Mr. Holman?
We didn't do that.
I mean, we didn't, but he's just saying the collaborations.
Yeah, facts.
Yeah, yeah.
So, publicly, just one song of you two together.
Yeah.
And then the rest are in the vault.
Yeah.
And, uh, what about this accent of yours?
What's the reaction you get to this accent?
Outside of the St. Pete, Tampa area?
I mean, don't nobody really say nothing about it until you get, like, I don't know, like,
maybe, like, where they don't, okay, like this, like, we ain't in a lot of that.
They don't talk quite like me, but they talk like they from the south, you know what I'm saying?
So, it's like, it's really when you get to, like, the East Coast, West Coast, then people
just be like, "Oh, my God."
You know what I'm saying?
But, um, you know, shit or what?
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Florida's what?
That's all it is.
And, uh, also, just wanted to, uh, clarify one thing when it came to St. Pete.
How long do you think you were raised in the St. Pete area for?
I know you mentioned it was about four years old when you moved.
But is there an age range?
That's right.
It's like 30 years, man.
Yeah.
And is it a, does it get any more specific on, uh, you know, what you represent
in St. Pete as far as names are concerned?
Well, I'm a inclusive kind of nigga.
I don't want to exclude nobody.
So it's the crib.
It's the whole set.
Now my last topic for this interview that I want to ask you is this.
And that is the jewelry you're sporting during this interview.
Yeah.
Before we go on any further, can you detail what you're wearing today?
The whole kit or just the chomp?
Yeah, the whole kit.
The whole kit.
Break it down if you can.
All right.
So we got, um, we got the Cuban bracelets.
You feel me?
Solid gold.
This bitch here, it's a little longer.
So that's like 350.
And I think it's like 310.
So all together, it's probably like somewhere around 650 grand.
Florida niggas, we like solid gold, homie.
We be in the sunlight.
This shit look good.
This shit take off, like, just as soon as the light hit it.
Niggas be having the diamond chains.
Your shit got to dance.
My shit just got to shine.
And then, um, we got the 20 wall, 22k, cast iron, Larry pack.
Everybody pretty much need to go to, I mean, I'm tripping.
Not a Larry pack.
I got a Lando pack.
Everybody pretty much go to Larry James or Lando.
And I went to Lando.
Uh, and then, as far as my chain, um, this is actually my favorite.
This is my favorite.
This is my favorite.
This is my favorite.
This is my favorite.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
And then I got the pendant with my name on the back of it.
On the front, we got the City of St. Pete seal.
So, every city got a seal.
We got the palm tree.
We got the sun and shit.
That's what's really on the seal.
But we made the petal of the king have gold teeth.
We made the petal of the king have Cuban length.
And we made everything 3D so they'd be busting out the frame.
And it'd just kind of have like a more 3D effect.
I was seeing niggas like, "Blood they shit."
You know what I'm saying?
To the point where from a distance, you couldn't tell what they had on.
That's why I wanted to make sure I left some side of gold on this bitch, so it's like. Self-explanatory.
Self-explanatory.
Self-explanatory.
And what about the earrings as well?
hundred dollars. This is one of the best investments I ever
made. Nigga, I done doubled this shit in like a year. But I spent $95 on this. And then
this first bracelet, the longer one, the bigger one, I spent
$10 on it. And then the smaller one, I think I spent
like, I don't remember what I spent, but it was like a little bit over $10, like maybe $11
or some shit. What about the teeth? The teeth, I think
it was like $700, $800. And
when you say $95, that's the chain and the pendant together.
Now, I do want to ask you this, okay? Because
when it comes to these items that you're
wearing, one thing that you're not wearing, and curious what your opinion on, is watches.
I noticed you didn't have a watch on during this. Do you have a watch? Do you wear watches?
You don't like watches? What is your opinion on watches? I like watches, but I don't know.
Mm-hmm. It's just something about chunky shit.
Like, I'm going to stand up here and watch
this soon, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to give me like a, probably like a plain
a plain roll-in with a little, you know, with a small, little Cuban
and a pink pendant on some like, slight shit, you know what I'm saying?
I'll wear that bitch to the studio. I'll just wear that bitch around, you know what I'm saying?
But I wanted to get some snap shit, so
I went and got what I got.
To the bracelets, is there a meaning behind two on one wrist?
Is there a meaning why you're wearing it on your left wrist?
It's just dumb. It ain't no real meaning. It's just dumb.
Do you ever do one on each? Do you ever switch it to the right hand at all?
Or is it always on the left two feet? I do one on each sometimes. Usually like if I wear like
long sleeves or something like that. I do one on each.
That shit don't feel dumb. Like that shit feel regular.
This shit feel dumb.
And also, for transparency, when it comes to like the jeweler you mentioned during this conversation,
are you sponsored by this jeweler perhaps?
Was everything out of pocket for you when it came to spending with this jeweler? So on and so forth.
I ain't sponsored. He was showing love, though.
And also, I do want to ask you this. Now, for someone in the audience with no jewelry, right?
Mm-hmm.
That you have here,
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
just about $100,000 around your neck, on your whole entire-
Stop it.
I told you I spent $100,000. I already told you it's more than double since I bought it. Stop it.
Not no $100,000, because you're going to have a nigga think that he can save up 100 bands and go get him a Nino kit and he can't.
Okay, so excuse me there. I apologize. So let's say $200,000 around your neck, right?
How about that, yeah.
$250,000 on your body in its entirety, if you include the bracelets and the teeth and the earrings, right?
Yeah.
For someone with no audience-
Excuse me.
For someone with no jewelry in the audience, what does that feel like to have a quarter million on your body at one time?
I mean, I don't really think about it. I don't look at it like that. I just like the way this shit look, you feel me?
Like, I like gold jewelry. I notice most niggas, when they get their change, they get them, like, kind of shorter, like a choker.
I wanted to make sure I had some hang time on my shit, you know what I'm saying? Come a length nigga, but, I mean, I just like the way this shit look, you feel me? I like gold jewelry. Come a length nigga, but, I mean, I just like the way this shit look, bro. I like the way it look with, like, certain outfits, and I wanted it to be gaudy, because it's like, I don't know, bro. I'm a Florida nigga, so it's like we pirates, bro. Pirates used to have gaudy-ass jewelry. They didn't used to have nice, like, fine jewelry. They used to have retarded shit. And I said, I don't know, I kind of like, I just like that swag, you know what I'm saying? So, that's why I got what I got.
But, you know, I don't really associate a dollar amount with it. I just like, like I said, I went and got, like, the kit that I wanted. If it would have been cheaper, if it would have been more. If it would have been cheaper, I would have spent less. If it would have been more, I would have kept grinding until I could get it.
That's a plot of land, right? That's a piece of real estate for some people. What's your opinion on those who purchased the jewelry first, instead of real estate, or auto vehicle, or so on and so forth?
When you in the entertainment business, honestly, you got to invest in yourself, and it's kind of hard, bro. It's kind of hard being a rapper without a chain. Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying?
But, and usually, with most niggas, it's a bad investment, quote unquote. Maybe not, because like I said, like, it's part of your image. But, I don't know no real estate that increased in value like my shit did. So, at least in my case, it was a good investment, and it looked good. So, it's a win-win.
And just curious for you, was it the jewelry first, before the auto vehicle or the real estate? Was it real estate, auto vehicle, and then the jewelry?
I mean, I had a will first. As far as a real estate game, bro, it was the timing, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was kind of like, my money was looking straight, starting in 2024. And then I got the deal in 2024. So, now it's like, damn, bitch, okay.
Rapper mode, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't even get a, I ain't really expect the deal to come.
The way that it did, it come when it did. But once it did, bro, you know, you do the right thing with this rap shit, you can buy 20 cribs. So, I've been putting everything into that.
And winding down the questions here about jewelry, a couple more here for you. Is jewelry for males like makeup for females?
Nah, I think jewelry for men is like BBLs and fake titties and shit for females.
And when it comes to the diamonds that are used in this pendant of yours, it sounds like the cost that you spent, these are natural stones.
Yeah.
What is your opinion on this debate of naturally mined diamonds versus lab-grown diamonds?
I mean, lab, you know, lab got some value. Better than moistening. It just depends on me personally. Like, I take everything too serious.
It's okay to get lab diamonds. Me, personally, I just take everything too serious. So, it's like, for me, if I'm finna be holding my shit up, you know what I'm saying? If I'm finna be in a club holding my shit up, it gotta represent something.
So, I'm not just doing it because it look good. Because if I was just finna look, then I probably, maybe I wouldn't care where the diamonds came from.
But for me, it's a symbol of how hard I work to be able to attain something like this. So, when I'm holding that bitch up, that's why it's like, I'm putting my bicep in that bitch.
So, it's like, for me, I don't want to flex anything that's worthless. Even though it might look good, it don't feel good to me. It only feels good if it's an accomplishment.
Just like, oh, you know what, one day I'm gonna buy a wedding ring. I'm gonna spend on that bitch. Because it's like, I want it to be a significant contribution.
Because it's like, oh, you know what, one day I'm gonna buy a wedding ring.
Just like, oh, you know what, one day I'm gonna buy a wedding ring.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The artist identifies as a hip-hop and trap music influencer, with a signature ad-lib "y'all" that fits his flow and style.
He believes ad-libs add authenticity and rhythm, and while he doesn’t overuse them, he values their role in enhancing a song’s energy.
His collaboration with Young Scooter, particularly on the track "Bus Die," was formative, and he personally mourned his passing, sharing a tribute on Instagram.
The song "Type of Nigga" became his most successful release due to viral content on TikTok and Instagram, driven by creative user-generated videos rather than traditional promotion.
He credits Rosé’s consistent social media promotion and organic engagement as key factors in the song’s global reach.
The artist remains skeptical of AI in music, believing it risks stripping music of emotional authenticity and human creativity.
He views his new project "Mirtha" as a deeply personal reflection on street morality, loyalty, and the consequences of actions, inspired by a birthday party in St. Pete.
The project's success and authenticity stem from his commitment to originality, raw lyricism, and a consistent artistic vision rooted in real-life experiences.
Summary:
The artist reflects on his journey in hip-hop, emphasizing the cultural and emotional significance of ad-libs like "y'all," which he uses to maintain authenticity and flow. He highlights the viral success of his song "Type of Nigga," attributing it to creative content on platforms like TikTok and Instagram, especially through fan-driven videos. Rosé’s active promotion played a crucial role in its global reach.
He shares a personal connection to Young Scooter, mourning his passing and acknowledging their collaboration as a milestone. The artist is critical of AI in music, believing it undermines the emotional and human core of the art form. He discusses his new project, "Mirtha," named after the Code of Silence, which explores moral responsibility in street life and personal integrity.
Inspired by a birthday party in St. Pete, the project features original production, deep lyricism, and strong features. The track list was carefully sequenced to maintain energy and showcase versatility, with "Tavernu" as his personal favorite.
The project is a testament to his growth, authenticity, and commitment to staying true to his roots while evolving as an artist. He remains grounded in real-life experiences and community values, viewing music as a spiritual and personal expression.
FAQs
I believe ad-libs add energy and flavor to a song, but I don’t overdo them. I only use them when they feel natural and fit the vibe of the track.
My signature ad-lib is 'y'all,' which I use because it fits my flow and sounds authentic. It works well in different contexts and has a natural, rhythmic feel.
No, I have never done that. While some artists like Walker do it, I’ve never added my ad-libs to another person’s verse.
Yes, we collaborated on the song 'Bus Die' in 2015. I booked him for a show and he delivered a strong feature, which was a memorable experience.
My favorite is 'Type of Nigga' because it was my first attempt to connect with the Florida rap algorithm and it unexpectedly became a massive success.
The song gained traction through viral TikTok and Instagram content, where fans creatively used it to showcase lifestyle or humor, which helped it spread globally.
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